Ric Diez Admits Why He Dates Married Women | First Date with Lauren Compton

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Podcast: First Date with Lauren Compton
Episode: Ric Diez Admits Why He Dates Married Women | First Date with Lauren Compton
Release Date: September 2, 2025
Host: Lauren Compton
Guest: Ric Diez (comedian, aka Sadman Rick)

This episode dives deep into Ric Diez’s candid views on modern dating, relationships, attraction, divorce, and the sometimes messy reality of adult romance. The conversation is casual, unfiltered, and full of humor, revelations, and honest confessions—most notably Ric’s openness about dating married women and his complicated relationship with monogamy. Lauren and Ric volley about red flags, personal boundaries, codependency, pick-up lines, and what it means to really connect with someone.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Guest Introduction and Background

• [00:00-01:16] Ric is introduced as a comedian seen on "Kill Tony," and known online as Sadman Rick. He splits his time between Austin and Brussels, and is originally from Madrid, Spain.
• Ric is 48 years old, recently divorced after a 12-year marriage, and currently single—not consistently dating anyone due to a busy touring schedule.

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Dating, Relationships, and Attraction

Meeting People While Traveling

• [01:39-01:53] Ric explains how his nomadic lifestyle complicates dating:
  “I've been traveling nonstop for the last... four months. I meet people at comedy shows, after comedy shows… dating apps don't really work for me because it detects I'm in one city, but I'm already gone by the time they see it.” (Ric, 01:43)

Past Relationships and Divorce

• Ric was married for 12 years. The marriage ended due to the "slow decay" of unmet expectations and micro-annoyances piling up.
• [04:14-06:37] Ric admits to being a hopeless romantic but also addicted to women’s attention:
  “I’m definitely addicted to women, to their attention—not the sex part. I just love women’s attention.” (Ric, 05:48)

What Ric Looks for in a Relationship

• [07:11-07:21] “I'm looking for kindness, tenderness... Honestly, I'm not attached to big boobs. I only care about the shape... I've seen yours online.” (Ric, 07:19)
• Prefers natural features and is more attracted to mouths than boobs or butts.

Preferences and Flirting Styles

• Discusses attraction to both blondes and brunettes, but finds brunettes “kinkier” due to perceived effort.
• Admits to being very insecure and a “try hard”:
  “Oh, I work super hard. I'm very insecure.” (Ric, 10:00)
• Flirting can sometimes err toward “creepy” if not managed—Ric relies now on being “super honest” in expressing interest.

The Power of Comedy on the Dating Scene

• Comedy gave Ric social access and confidence; many romantic encounters have resulted from post-show interactions.

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Getting Candid: Ric’s Affairs With Married Women

Why Date Married Women?

• [24:16-27:44] Ric is strikingly open about the ease of hooking up with married women at this stage of his life:
  “At 48, it's kind of easier for me to hook up with married women or women in relationships than with single women.... It’s not my problem. It's their problem.” (Ric, 24:16, 24:32)

• Best sex Ric’s had was with a married woman for two years—full of “open communication, no relationship. It's perfect.” (25:01)

• Says he has no emotional attachment in these affairs, and that for him, the desire to cheat signals an already decaying relationship.

• On boundaries and regret:
  “I'm not trying to destroy, ruin a marriage. ... The people that are more responsive to me are people that are in bad relationships.” (Ric, 26:34, 26:49)

Polyamory vs. Monogamy

• Ric is open-minded but skeptical of polyamory, preferring monogamy if it’s with the "right person." Experiences with polyamorous friends reveal it as “a hobby” for some, not a lifestyle Ric is drawn to:
  “For me, my romantic life is not a hobby—it’s something that warms my heart and brings me pleasure.” (Ric, 32:20)

• Discussion on polyamory gets into nuances of non-hierarchical vs. hierarchical setups, boundaries, and communication.

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Red Flags, Toxicity, and Ghosting

Ric’s Experiences with Toxicity

• [47:42-48:37] Ric often finds himself attracting women who are drawn to drama: “I keep finding women who feel like arguing in a very aggressive way, ... if I don't engage in that, they're turned off by that.” (Ric, 47:58)

• Is honest about his own codependency and how it ruined past relationships:
  “It's what destroyed my marriage… I'm super codependent, and I feel like she was, too.” (Ric, 36:02)

Ghosting and Ending Relationships

• Both Lauren and Ric admit to ghosting and developing polite "let down easy" texts for when things don’t work out.
• Ric prefers clear rejection over being strung along:
  “Thank you for letting me know you’re not interested because I can move on.” (Ric, 38:26)

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What They Want In Love and Sex

• Ric is most turned on by “intimacy... being accepted, just being loved turns me on a lot.” (Ric, 43:03)
• Lauren’s biggest turn-on is a man doing something she asks:
  “If he stops what he’s doing and he does something I ask him to do … he’s probably getting a blowjob.” (Lauren, 42:04)
• They share thoughts on love languages, needs, physical attraction, and post-baby sex life.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I'm in and out, and I never pull out.” (Ric, 02:02)
• “Focus on the hopeless. A big emphasis on being hopeless.” (Ric, 03:42)
• “I would look terrible for 25.” (Ric, 04:42)
• “I want us to be, like, cokeheads together… Like, not ever be able to leave each other because we’re so into each other, grossly.” (Lauren, 36:32)
• “At 48, it's kind of easier for me to hook up with married women or women in relationships than with single women.” (Ric, 24:16)
• “I don't want to destroy couples ... I'm not trying to ruin a marriage. I'm just trying to have my fun.” (Ric, 26:34)
• “Codependency is so dangerous.” (Ric, 35:45)
• “Being desired, just being accepted, just being loved turns me on a lot.” (Ric, 43:09)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:00-01:16]: Guest intro, Ric’s background & where he lives
• [04:14-06:37]: Ric’s divorce, what caused it, and addiction to attention
• [07:11-09:06]: Preferences in attraction and past relationships
• [10:00-11:54]: Insecurities, confidence, and honesty in flirting
• [17:47-19:38]: Ric's experience with athletic women, relationship goals, and horror stories
• [24:16-25:30]: Admitting to dating married women and rationale behind it
• [26:34-28:40]: On not wanting to ruin marriages, ideal relationship dynamics, generational differences in dating
• [32:20-33:37]: Polyamory discussion, boundaries, and why Ric still leans toward monogamy
• [35:06-36:55]: Lauren’s codependency and attachment style
• [38:26]: Ric on being grateful for direct rejections
• [42:04]: Lauren’s ultimate turn-on (acts of service)
• [43:03]: Ric on what turns him on
• [47:42-48:37]: Ric on attracting drama and toxicity

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Tone & Overall Vibe

The tone is playful, open, and extremely candid. Both Lauren and Ric volley between humor and emotional honesty, mixing personal confessions with broader reflections about love, sex, and dating in adulthood. Ric’s confessions—particularly about dating married women—set a provocative, no-holds-barred tone that Lauren matches with her own vulnerability. The banter is flirtatious and self-deprecating, but always rooted in authentic introspection.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a revealing and entertaining take on modern dating—covering everything from codependency to polyamory, sexual preferences to healthy boundaries. The conversation is as much about learning to accept yourself as it is about navigating the wild ride of finding “the right person.”

Ric’s Socials:
Find him everywhere as @SadmanRick. New podcast: “Deez Nuts” on YouTube.

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For those who haven’t listened:
You’ll walk away with a fresh view on dating outside the box, the messy reality of adult relationships, and a few big laughs at the candid, unfiltered honesty of Lauren and Ric.

Transcript

[A]

I'm so excited to see you tonight. First Date, baby. First date. I can't wait. First date. What's up, you guys? Welcome to another episode of First Date. My guest today you've seen on Kill Tony. You can follow him on Instagram or YouTube @Sadman Rick. Give it up for Rick Diaz.

[B]

Hi. All right, here we are.

[A]

I'm so happy to have you on the show. I've been trying to get you on forever.

[B]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

You're hilarious.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

You've been one of my favorite comics for a long. I'd say local comics for a long time. But you're traveling the world now.

[B]

Yeah, well, I was never really a local comic.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just traveled here. Did you know that? I don't know if you remember. You won't know this, but you were on the first show I ever did in Austin.

[A]

That's where I met you. I know. That's why I was like, that's. I think that's why I feel like you were local.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you were on a show that I was on in Austin, and I'm like, oh, okay. Because all the other ones were local, I think.

[B]

Pretty much. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

It was fun. I was like, okay, cool.

[A]

Where do you live?

[B]

When I'm in the US I set my base in Austin for now. And in Europe, I'm living in Brussels.

[A]

So you're kind of local?

[B]

I'm kind of local, yeah.

[A]

I mean, semi local.

[B]

Semi local, yeah. When I'm in the US I'm based out of here for now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's been great.

[A]

Where are you born?

[B]

Born in Madrid, Spain.

[A]

Okay. Do you have a girlfriend?

[B]

Nope.

[A]

Are you dating anybody?

[B]

I'm trying, but at the present moment, I'm not dating anybody consistently.

[A]

Where? How do you meet people?

[B]

That's the. I've been traveling nonstop for the last, like, I want to say, four months. So I meet people at comedy shows after comedy shows.

[A]

Are you on any dating apps?

[B]

I tried. It's just not the moment. Like, it detects that I'm here. I'm already gone from that city, pretty much.

[A]

Wow. So you're really fat. You're just in and out.

[B]

I'm in and out, and I never pull out.

[A]

I felt like there was a setup there. I was like, wow.

[B]

Yeah, there you go.

[A]

All right, well, let's dive in some of these questions.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That I have pulled for you.

[B]

Okay, so.

[A]

So we start with some easy appetizer questions. All right.

[B]

There's no such thing, but yeah. Okay.

[A]

What is the Weirdest gift that you've ever given someone.

[B]

Ooh, that I've given. Oh, that's. Oh, now you're surprising me. The weirdest gift that I have ever given. I mean, defined weird a little bit. I'm trying to.

[A]

Well, a gift is usually something, like, material. Right. Is there any?

[B]

I gave my grandma. Not. So this is not a date. Right. But I gave.

[A]

It's a weird gift. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I gave my grandma, like, 60 lighters.

[A]

60.

[B]

Because she used to smoke a lot and she would lose them all the time. So I was like, here for Christmas, I gave her so many lighters and she was like, this is the best gift I've had. I'm actually going to use this.

[A]

Wow, that is a lot of lighters. Did she ever need another one in her life again?

[B]

She was like, a few years later, she was like, I'm still using your lighters. I'm like, thank you.

[A]

Wow. So you're an enabler.

[B]

I mean, she was not going to stop smoking on anybody's account, you know? Like, she was. I might as well just make it easy on her, you know, like, they were hiding the cigarettes from her towards the end. Like.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. It was that bad, man. Yeah. Miss my grandma?

[A]

What? Do you have any addictions?

[B]

Love? Oh, no, it's. It's painful.

[A]

Are you a hopeless romantic?

[B]

Yeah. Focus on the hopeless. A big emphasis on being hopeless. Yeah.

[A]

When was the last time you had a serious girlfriend?

[B]

Semi serious. Serious with potential to be serious was. What was. Oh, what do you mean? I'm like. I'm gonna say serious. Like, the last girl I dated for a few months was, I think, over a year ago.

[A]

Hold on. What is the longest relationship you've ever had?

[B]

I. I was married for 12 years.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah. That was a long one. That was a serious.

[A]

When was that?

[B]

That was up to a little bit before I signed up on Kil. Tony. Yeah.

[A]

I. I don't know when that is.

[B]

About two years ago. About, you know.

[A]

How old are you now?

[B]

I'm 48 now.

[A]

You're 48?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, you're not.

[B]

I am. Yeah. Thank you.

[A]

I thought you were like, 25.

[B]

I would look terrible for 25.

[A]

What do you. What do you eat? What do you drink? Drop the routine, dude.

[B]

Well, you know, reasonable amounts of exercise, reasonable portions. Try to keep it varied. Have some vitamins from time to time. Just nothing excessive.

[A]

Oh, that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That is way too boring.

[B]

I am a boring person.

[A]

Okay, listen, you're not a boring person when. Well, you kind of are when so you were married also?

[B]

A few, but sure.

[A]

12 years. Why did it end?

[B]

Slow decay of two people that are being like. You know how when you meet someone, you kind of present the best version of yourself and even though you have, you know, there's all the time. Yeah. And there's bad sides about you and.

[A]

You'Re trying to try to hide it as long as you can.

[B]

Yeah. And the other person is too. Right. And then at some point those two come out and then either you can both live with them or it starts to go bad.

[A]

What is the. What is the bad thing about yourself that you tried to hide?

[B]

I would definitely. I'm definitely addicted to women. To their. To their attention. Not the sex part. I just love women's attention.

[A]

Oh. So are you a. Like a massive flirt?

[B]

I can't be. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I don't feel like that's reason for divorce. What was.

[B]

No, but it can. It can compile into a bunch of stuff that then just adds up to a lot of micro behaviors that over time. Like, I don't know, like, let's say you're a chewy. Like you may. You make noise when you chew. Right?

[A]

Yeah. That's so annoying.

[B]

It's so annoying. Right. But like, maybe you really like the person and you live with that for a long time, but then when the person starts to bother you for other things, the chewing comes out.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Great example.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's why it just. That's why it's a slow decay because I. Well, this is pissing me off. This is pissing me off. This is pissing me off. This pissing me off. And the compilation of all the things just makes it like it was untenable.

[A]

Was it a long divorce?

[B]

Yeah, it took over a year. Yeah.

[A]

That's not terribly long.

[B]

Well, it took over a year with the lawyers was a few months before and after that too, of. You know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It would say over two years.

[A]

So have you had a serious girlfriend since then?

[B]

I've had a few attempts, yeah. But some. It. It was never gonna work. It wasn't the right people. There are great people. Like great, great people.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But it wasn't. It wasn't. It.

[A]

What are you looking for in a relationship?

[B]

I'm looking for kindness, tenderness, and I.

[A]

Would like big boobs.

[B]

Honestly, I'm not attached to big boobs. I'm not against them. I only care about the shape of the boob, if that makes any sense. I've seen yours online.

[A]

Not recently.

[B]

No. I don't know, I don't know what they look like now, but yeah, yours were pretty.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Regardless of the size, right? The shape and the proportion of what they were.

[A]

I don't know. Boobs are just weird because they're getting sucked on all the time by a tiny person.

[B]

Not just tiny persons.

[A]

You know, I haven't had a bigger person suck on my boobs since a tiny one has started. It's a little weird. Milk comes out. I can just squeeze a boob and milk goes.

[B]

Now you're just trying to turn me on. That is.

[A]

It's kind of. It's just. It's odd.

[B]

I've never been milked on. That's something I have not done.

[A]

So are you more of a boobs guy or a butt guy?

[B]

I'm a. I'm a mouth guy.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you like lips?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Fake lips?

[B]

No, just the shape of the lips. Just. I like to see.

[A]

Would you rather have a girl with thin, natural lips or big, beautifully shaped fake lips?

[B]

Can I go for in between but natural?

[A]

No, that wasn't an option.

[B]

All right. Okay.

[A]

Well, you have to choose the natural, which isn't so pretty, or the natural or the not natural, which is.

[B]

I would go for natural. Between those two, I would go for natural.

[A]

Okay. Do you like blondes or brunettes?

[B]

Dude, I. They both can look amazing. I don't see why I have to pick. I've had. I've had mostly success with brunettes, so I have more of a. Of a. Of a obsession with a real blonde. Because I haven't. I don't know. I have been with one blonde.

[A]

Do you think blondes have more fun?

[B]

No. No, absolutely not. No, they are. They are so much lower in the. In the. In the kinky scale than brunettes. The. The. Nah. Off. No, I'll tell you why. It's because most blondes, I believe this is my theory, you know, they're. If they're pretty, like a pretty blonde versus a pretty brunette. Like, I think blondes are going to generally attract more males and in general, like, because of cultural and social stereotypes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So they're gonna have to put less energy in. Brunettes can be as beautiful, but they're gonna put that little extra.

[A]

I don't know. Because blondes can be pretty insecure, but.

[B]

I don't know. Prove it so I can say, you know. Yeah. If they're insecure. What matters is how insecure they are. Then you know it's not blonde or brunette.

[A]

I would say the more insecure someone is probably the more of a try hard they are.

[B]

Right. So then therefore I'm definitely a try hard.

[A]

You're working harder.

[B]

Oh, I work super hard. I'm very insecure.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Someone commented that on one of my like Instagram reels are like, wow, this girl's so insecure. And I'm like, dad, why are you in the comments? You're dead.

[B]

That's so funny. Like, I did a show in Louisiana last weekend and this girl who is very pretty was sitting in the front with her boyfriend, was laughing so hard at some specific things I was saying. And I was like, what's your relationship with your dad? And she was like, he's not there. I was like, I'm a savant. There's. Yeah, some. Somebody asked me recently, like, what, what, what? Like about my what, what I like in bed. And I was like, I'm just devoted to her orgasm. The more she is going to orgasm, the more turned on I'm going to get.

[A]

You're just trying to get girls to slide in your DMs. It's gonna work.

[B]

I'll back it up. I'll back it up.

[A]

Whenever you're. How do you turn a girl on? What is like your move?

[B]

I mean, I have so many failed moves that I would say on average I don't turn them on because maybe I come on to a little too strong, you know, like, or I'm too. I look needy. I haven't, I'm not. I don't have enough confidence yet. I somehow don't have that. I wish I was more confident. I'm just like some childhood insecurities.

[A]

But you're so funny. Yeah, I feel like that can be. That's such a superpower.

[B]

Yeah, funny. Funny is one. Funny is one. Shameless flirting can also be one because it's kind of like a sign of confidence, I guess. And it's fun. Like it's. It's just a fun thing to do. As long as it's. The line between flirty and creepy is sometimes, you know, like, oh, no, I shouldn't have said that one. You know, it's like, oh, I was. I thought I was. And then you mess up.

[A]

But taking it too far is kind of fun, you know, it's a double edged sword.

[B]

What's my move? What's been working for me now is just being super honest.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Just telling girls I'm into them, like, I'm interested and I like you.

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[B]

I do.

[A]

Can I hear one? What is it?

[B]

I don't know, but it's very context based, right? It's very. It's not. It's not a laughing. It's not like a first pickup line of I just met you. It's more of a. If we had a conversation for a while.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's going a specific way in a specific direction. I'll just, you know, just. Just be very gentle and be very respectful and just tell her, I really want to kiss you right now.

[A]

Does it work?

[B]

Yeah. But I'm also a good kisser, so, like, you know, if they go for it, they're in for a treat.

[A]

The best pickup line I ever had.

[B]

A funny one.

[A]

Well, but a pickup line is a pickup line. I had a funny one, though. It was the best one I've ever heard. Yeah, I was. I was at a club in Las Vegas.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was young. I was like, in my 20s.

[B]

So two years ago. See, that's another pickup line.

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

This guy comes up to me fucking shitfaced, okay. And he's, like, stumbling up to me and he goes, your calves look like Dove soap bars. It was so funny and so true. Cause I have some calf muscles on me, and no one has ever picked my calf muscles as, like, the thing to come at me with. And it was such a specific.

[B]

Did it work?

[A]

No. The guy.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

I laughed so hard, I was like, that's hilarious. And if he wouldn't have been so hammered.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then maybe I would have, like, engaged. But I thought this guy was gonna, like, throw up on me right after he said it. He was that drunk.

[B]

All right, well, I think you can see it on camera. You can see Lawrence Kives right now because. Because I can't see.

[A]

They put this giant screen here and.

[B]

I can't see the tv.

[A]

Can you see that? I wish I could, like, show you. I have pretty good caf.

[B]

When you walked in the studio. Like when I was. Because I arrived. I come early. It's like a sickness. I'm always early for things.

[A]

I could use a little bit of that.

[B]

Yeah, but you're fine. You're a pretty girl, so you're allowed to talk to 20 minutes and then that's my max. Now I don't wait for girls anymore. The. But for you with that. Because you're the interviewer, so I have to. But like I looked at your calves and I was like, those calves are Dove salt bars. They're so hot. Your calves are out of this world.

[A]

Thank you. I used to be a gymnast and I used to have. We used to have to sit on each other's shoulders and do calf raises.

[B]

What kind of a gymnast were you?

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

Well, there's a bunch of different gym that like you have a specialty or was it like a gymnast?

[A]

I did all four beam bars.

[B]

Okay. Floor involved, so. Proper gymnast.

[A]

Yeah, proper gymnast.

[B]

I'm not saying the other ones are not proper athletes, but like the, you know, with the.

[A]

This was like gymnastics, gymnastics, gymnastics. Like the one that you see in the Olympics.

[B]

Dude, I, I have never been with a gymnast. And that's. I'm not saying that specifically you, but like if I love to be with an athletic chick.

[A]

Yeah. The flexibility and the strength. It's fun.

[B]

It's not just fun, it's hot. Like it's so attractive. It's just like wow. Like a girl. That's just a little, just a little like musly. It's just like in a good way. It's so beautiful.

[A]

What is your goal in a relationship? Do you want to get married again?

[B]

I don't know that I want to get married again. In terms of the administrative burden of that. I feel like it's given my exit of the last one and how painful that was. I don't know if I. If I want that again, but I feel like if the right person comes along, I'll see what happens at that moment. I've been now dating for two years. I've had semi midterm relationships. I've had, you know, one night stands. I've had multiple one night, like multiple whatever. And I feel like now I'd like to find someone to fall in love with.

[A]

Any horror stories? Not to be confused with horror?

[B]

Yeah, I didn't know. I was about to ask Horror.

[A]

Like any. Any really bad.

[B]

Oh, I had. I had one really bad one that, that it was. I was. It was kind of weird because I met this girl, she Was one of the most beautiful women I have ever been with. Super, super attractive, French, incredible eyes. Just. Just me.

[A]

Did she shave her armpits?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is all stereotypes that we Americans have. Of course not. She was incredible.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah, she was pursuing me, like actively pursuing me. Where we had a couple dates. We're just heavily making out and just like, it's very physical. The attraction was very clear. Right. But then we, we went to my place and we started to like, you know, get ready to do the thing. Let's get it on. And then she had like a panic attack. And at that point she had touched everything. Like, was, No, I don't know. It's just like, we're going to do the thing now. And she. And she was like, no, it's not you, it's me. It's because my dad died. And I was like, what is going on here? This was the biggest set of daddy issues I've ever seen in my life. But it was kind of sad at the same time. Did he like just die kind of recently? Yeah, like one month before or something. So I don't know what was going on through her head, but, you know, I must have triggered something.

[A]

Did you like ask her to call you daddy or something?

[B]

Absolutely not.

[A]

No, no, she just had a. Yeah, she just had.

[B]

She just lost it. And then I never saw her again. Sad because I was really attracted to her. Yeah, I had horror stories. Let me think. Not, I haven't had, like, because I don't drink.

[A]

Ooh. So anyone get blacked out drunk with you?

[B]

Also in general, I'm trying to avoid women that are shit faced just out of, like. I know, I understand. Some people say, ooh, sober. Sober sex. I don't want any of that, you know, but like, I don't want to be with anybody who's just drunk and. And you don't know who you're talking to anymore. So I don't want that. But I had, yeah, I've had one. One. One old friend. Like, she was very pretty. I was very attracted to her. But she was my. She used to date my friend and she was blacked out and she was flirting with me and I was. I didn't know how to navigate that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I was like, I'm kind of into you, but also I don't. And I didn't know at that time that she would. That she was blacked out because she seemed pretty. She was just saying weird things to me.

[A]

She was, she was. What do they call that? It's a functioning alcoholic kind of.

[B]

Maybe. I don't want to put, you know, I don't want to say that that's what she was. But she definitely at that time, that one night. Yeah, but no. Yeah. I don't have, like, definitely have disappointing stories, you know, but not horror stories.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What is your idea of a perfect first date?

[B]

Not too expensive. Because I don't want to make it about money. Just. Just honestly, just. I just want to. It's immediate. Like, I want to be turned on intellectually and physically. Like that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And if I don't have that, I'm going to be like, I don't want to force a relationship anymore.

[A]

Do you. What do you do for fun?

[B]

I haven't had much fun in the last. Since I started comedy, pretty much since Kilotoni. I've just been touring so much. Just gigging, gigging, gigging, gigging, gigging. Just trying to make this work.

[A]

How do you decompress?

[B]

I watch tv.

[A]

What do you watch?

[B]

A reality tv trash.

[A]

What kind of trash?

[B]

I've watched every season of the Bachelor. I've watched just the worst. Just mindless, Just like nothingness. Just.

[A]

Have you seen the Secret Millionaire?

[B]

No. I've heard about it.

[A]

That is so fun. That's a really fun trash show.

[B]

Yeah, I like those. I like. I like, you know, a bunch of drama, thrillers. I like to watch tv. I did. I did used to go to the gym a lot, but now that I. I quit my day job to do comedy full time.

[A]

What was your day job?

[B]

I worked for the European Union, which is for the government of the European Union for 20 years.

[A]

Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Is that like a desk job?

[B]

It's a desk job. Very administrative, very paperwork. You're pushing red tape all day long. And that was my job.

[A]

How'd you get into comedy?

[B]

I loved comedy and I just did a workshop for fun, and then that's how I started.

[A]

How long ago was that?

[B]

It was 2019.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. And also immediately was out every night. Like, went from not. Not having any friends to going out regularly because I was traveling, I was living abroad, so it was hard to make friends because you. You come to a city, then a few years later you move, and then you have to start over all over again. So I hadn't been there for that long, and I just made friends. I was out, I was meeting girls. It was just fun.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, definitely. Like, the main reason why I meet girls is thanks to comedy. Directly or indirectly, for sure.

[A]

Well, there's something about being on stage and having that spotlight on you. Yeah. It's like the limelight, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It makes everyone a little bit more attractive in the moment.

[B]

In the moment. Yeah. And then they get jealous that you're meeting other girls.

[A]

Well, that's their problem.

[B]

Kind of. Yeah. You should know what you're getting, but, you know, people are in denial.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was thinking about this before coming here, and I was, like, thinking, like, where I am in my life, like, at 48, it's kind of easier for me to hook up with married women or women in relationships than with single women.

[A]

You shouldn't put. What? Wait, what? You hook up with married women.

[B]

It's not my problem. It's not my problem. It's their problem.

[A]

Is it a secret to their husbands know?

[B]

Totally. It's so much fun. I don't care. I was dating this chick for two years. The best sex I've ever had. Yeah.

[A]

Bad boy.

[B]

No, she's a bad girl. I'm just having sex. Very respectfully. Open communication, no relationship. It's perfect.

[A]

What happens if the guy finds out?

[B]

Well, I guess they're gonna break up.

[A]

You don't have any emotional attachment to that?

[B]

None of it.

[A]

How do you do that?

[B]

How?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

How. I went through a terrible divorce. I don't believe in marriage anymore. I believe in falling in love. And as long as that love is a solid construct, you will not want to cheat. If the person wants to cheat, that relationship is already dying.

[A]

So you, You. You keep it strictly physical and you don't get attached to that person.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Mini level of attachment. Because in order to be good, like, have. Be good sex partners, you need to have complicity.

[A]

But if, like, one day she was like, I can't do this anymore. You'd just be like, okay, yeah, yeah, kind of.

[B]

I mean, I guess I'll have to jerk off now because, you know. But yeah, pretty much.

[A]

So, Mary. I guess. So married women are easier to get, huh?

[B]

You just said you haven't had anybody, you know, suck on your things since you got the baby?

[A]

My boobs. You can say boobs.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. Boobs. Yeah. It's not my first language English, so sometimes I. I can find my words. But yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Well, just because he's not interested in drinking milk.

[B]

But see, that's the mistake. He should be curious about the milk. He should be just playing with the milk and make you feel comfortable about the milk. He should be splashing his face in milk.

[A]

I could just squirting all over it.

[B]

That'S what you should be doing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You just make it happen. They hurt, solve it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Whenever I do that, I'll say, Rick said so.

[B]

Please do that. Please do it. I mean, you know, but I mean, I don't want to destroy couples. Like, I don't, I'm not there, so I'm not trying to be in a relationship with them and then I don't want them to break up. I'm not trying to destroy, ruin a marriage.

[A]

You're just trying to have secret.

[B]

No, I'm just trying to have my fun and have sex with people. And the thing is, the people that are more responsive to me are people that are in bad relationships because younger women are trying to find their ideal guy. So they're not looking for a 48 year old unless they have daddy issues, which I have had a few. And then no, I mean, you know girls that have daddy issues.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then girls my age, often they have kids, they have like, they've been through a lot. If they're single, they've been through a bunch. And it's, they're harder for me to meet somehow. Like I don't just circumstantially, I don't. I'm not in the right social circles to meet them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So. So it's just a bit hard. My ideal woman right now is someone in their 30s, I guess, or late 30s or early 40s, who's single and has a decent job, makes her own money. There's no conflict of interest. There's no needing. Like we're just there to enjoy each other and do stuff together when we can.

[A]

So that's the ideal person for you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you don't want someone to need you?

[B]

No, it turns me off if someone needs me.

[A]

Wow. Okay. So is it. So it's hot to you to be with someone who's in a relationship with someone else because it's safe? It's like perfect situation.

[B]

Well, yes and no. It's cool in terms of having fun and having a shameless sex because you can be like, well, this is what I want to do right now. There's no pressure. What is she going to do, say no? What, we're going to stop seeing each other? Who cares? So I can be. I, I feel less shy about expressing my sexual desires.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I feel like when you're, when you have the pressure of trying to build a relationship for at least for me, then I'm a little more ashamed of expressing my kinks, which is I shouldn't but that's, you know, so it's easier with a woman who has her life and her thing. But I want to fall in love with someone and have a relationship. And I think I'm pretty sure I'm more monogamous than not. Yeah, but it has to be the right person.

[A]

Well, if you were married and. And your wife was sleeping with someone else and it was just casual on the side, would you care?

[B]

It would have to be context based. Like, what are the boundaries of our relationship? What have we discussed? Is it. Was she lying to me? Was she open with me about it?

[A]

So are you.

[B]

Why is she doing it? What am I failing? Or is it something that even if I'm not failing anything, but she has additional desires? It's context based. I don't know. It's a complicated question.

[A]

So would you have an open relationship?

[B]

I want to say probably not. But if it happened and it was the right person and I loved her, then maybe, yes. It's all about, am I in love with this person and what am I willing to tolerate?

[A]

How do you share someone you love?

[B]

That's. I guess everybody has a different answer to this. One of my best friends back in Brussels, she's a girl that I met on Tinder and we had a couple dates, but then nothing ever happened. It was more immediate friendship for her, not for me. I just thought she was always super hot. But she's polyamorous. So she's been explaining to me. She has like different relationships and like, she knows other polyamorous people. And so she explained to me, she explained to me all the rules and communication patterns and things are established and what's good, what you can do, what you can't do. So I don't know that I'm polyamorous in that way. You know, like, how do you share a person? Very, very clear communication and boundaries. Because you have to. Like some people are going to be like, well, you can do whatever you want, just don't tell me about it. Or you can do whatever you want, but I want to know everything and it's just about what you decided together.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Does that make any sense?

[A]

But then again, it's like, if. Why be monogamous if you're going to be with other people?

[B]

No, if you're with other people, you're not monogamous.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

But. But some relationships could be. For example, I guess it. I'm sure there's comedians that have this kind of relationship or artists or that have either a husband or, or a wife who are in the entertainment business. And they're like, yeah, you can do whatever you want while you're on tour. Just don't. Don't humiliate me, don't embarrass me, don't make me look bad kind of thing. Those are deals that some people have in this business, right?

[A]

Yeah, so.

[B]

But it's all give and take and what they agree on, as long as they both agree on the thing.

[A]

But that's so hard because I met a guy that was that one time when I was single. He was hitting on me, and he was married, and he had two kids, and I knew his whole situation, and I was not attracted to him in the way that I wanted to hook up with him, but he was attracted to me and tried to feed me this story that he was like, I'm in an open relationship as long as I don't show anything on social media or whatever, and I don't embarrass her. And then she's fine letting me do this. And I'm like, you are a fucking scumbag who's probably just cheating on his wife, Cheating on your wife behind her back, and she has no idea about this, and you don't want it to be public because she'd find out.

[B]

Exactly. So that's absolutely a very likely scenario in what you described. That's what I would assume, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I know this lady that I was seeing for a while. We had a clear agreement on, and I never betrayed that trust, you know?

[A]

So wild.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think that polyamory is like a sex cult.

[B]

I think it's like a hobby, you know? Like what? You asked me why I've had this chat. I was like, because you asked me what I do for fun. Actually, I do some things for fun or I'd love to do. Like, I love nature of hiking. I love.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

I love going to the gym. I love going traveling. I love. I love, you know, going. Finding good food while I'm traveling. I just don't have much time to do it. We. But. But the.

[A]

Where was I going with this polyamory sex cult?

[B]

Yeah, I was like, a lot of polyamorous people, I feel like their hobby is just having sex and meeting people. They're just so involved. I have this relationship, and then I have this date, and their whole schedule revolves about their sex and romantic life. Whereas for me, I have a job to do. And then my sex life or my romantic life is not a hobby. It's something that brings me, like. Like, warms my heart and brings me pleasure.

[A]

So what if polyamory is just a single person dating a bunch of people?

[B]

Well, it could be. It could also not be. Like, for example, there's polyamory where you have a.

[A]

Unless you're with someone.

[B]

Well, that's the thing. So there are polyamorous relationships. Like my friend, she is polyamorous, but it's a non hierarchical polyamory where she is putting nobody ahead of anybody. And she also even saves time for to spend with her friends. So there's not one main guy or person. Whereas there's polyamorous people that have. This is my main, and then this is B, C, D. And there's like a.

[A]

Okay, yeah.

[B]

So that some of them are more known than the other, but they need to talk to each other to see what they're about. It's complicated and a lot of them are full of. And some of them do it the right way. So I've met both and you know, like, it's, it's. It's a horror show. That's why I'd rather be monogamous because I don't want to deal with any of this.

[A]

It sounds like so much. To take on one person is so much work.

[B]

I used to share my office with a guy, and I'm gonna say in which country? But I used to share my office with a guy that had, at a single point in time, had five girlfriends, including a wife and a kid. And he had a separate apartment where he would bring his lovers. He had one girlfriend that didn't even know he was married. And he was like splitting his time between his wife. He had like a secret entire life. And I was, and I was talking to him, I was like. And he would have like Excel sheets, like complete tables with his schedule of like. This is what I'm seeing. This one. This is what I'm seeing. This one. This one. I'm seeing this one.

[A]

I didn't know you were friends with Harvey Weinstein.

[B]

No, I mean, they were all of age and they were all. It wasn't in exchange for work.

[A]

I'm just kidding. That just seems like a lot. I mean, talk about a full time job, but.

[B]

Okay, but tell me how it, how is it for you? I understand, okay, you're married with a specific guy. I don't know how long you've been together before.

[A]

Three years.

[B]

Three years total. All right, but so how is it for you before that? Let's not talk about since the last three years. But before that, for a girl of your Level of, you know, you're pretty, like, easy to talk to, fun, very hot.

[A]

Thanks.

[B]

Sure as. You haven't heard that before. And then.

[A]

Hey, it never gets old.

[B]

All right. Sure. And then.

[A]

Thank you. Especially now that I'm a mom.

[B]

That's hotter.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. It is. You're a real woman. That's hot, right? Yeah, exactly. So. But how do you navigate being hit on constantly and having so many options?

[A]

Well, it's. I didn't get hit on as much as you would think. I didn't go out that much.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

Well, I was working. I was also doing comedy and touring and trying to, like, do the thing. Do the thing. And I have never really been into one night stands. No, so. And why not? Because I have some serious codependency and attachment issues where if I like you and I want to hook up, we need to be getting married.

[B]

That is so scary.

[A]

I am terrifying.

[B]

Codependency is such. Is so dangerous. That's. That's.

[A]

I'm the worst. Oh, well, we would go on, like, a couple dates, and if we vibed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Um, I'd want to own you.

[B]

And like, God, this is so hard to hear.

[A]

That's. That was me.

[B]

No, but I'll explain why it's hard. It's like, on the one hand, it's terrifying. It's what destroyed my marriage. Cody Penn, really the source of it. I'm super codependent, and I feel like she was super codependent, too. And then. But it's also so hard to hear. Like, I want to be needed that bad. I don't. I don't know. I'm sad. I don't want to be needed. But, like, in that thing. You're disease.

[A]

I find it hot, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, when a gu wants to be with me and he's like, if. If we're dating and I'm into you and you are all about me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then I'm even more all about you. And I want someone who's, like, equally as codependent. I want us to be, like, cokeheads together, you know, I want us to, like, not ever be able to leave each other because we're so into each other, like, grossly. And so that's my thing. And if it's not like that, then we're not hooking up. And I can't casually date. I don't know how to casually date.

[B]

And do you expect the guy to figure that out or do you. Or you communicating with the guys about. These are. This is what these are.

[A]

My, like, pretty clear. I've always. And I would go on dates with people, and I had this text that was kind of already built where if I didn't like you and I as romantically, but I thought you were cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You'd get this text.

[B]

What's the text?

[A]

The text would be like, hey, I had a really good time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thank you so much for taking me out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel like we definitely vibed and in. In, like, more of a friendship kind of way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And less romantically. I. I'm not that into you as a boyfriend, but if you want to stay friends and hang out and kick it and we can split the bill and go out to eat, I'm down, dude.

[B]

I've received that text so many times.

[A]

That that means I'm not into you. But you were cool.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't get it from Lauren yet, though. But I did get it from.

[A]

You know, that text doesn't go out anymore.

[B]

It's a good night. That's good.

[A]

But that's how it would go down.

[B]

Yeah. I think it. But now, for example, if I had been in my 20s and I got that text, I'd be crying my heart out.

[A]

But I tried to make it so nice. Like a compliment sandwich.

[B]

It is. It's all beautiful, but it's still disappointing. Right.

[A]

But, like, now it's, like, so nice. Disappointing ends with nice compliment sandwich.

[B]

It's all about expectations now. I'm like, if a girl tells me that message now, like, if I get this message today, I'm like, thank you.

[A]

It's nice message.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I mean, no, thank you. Mostly because. Not because a nice message. It is a polite way to say ugh. Like. Like, ugh. But, ugh, no thanks. Thank you. But it. But it's more, thank you for letting me know you're not interested because I can move on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I've been strong along, you know, that's the worst. And that's the worst. And I've done. And I've been strong along for, like, months of like, oh, yeah, but a little bit, but no, but yes, but a little bit, but no, but yes, but a little bit, but no, but yes. So now when I get a no.

[A]

I'm like, dude, fuck that. I think that sucks. And ghosting sucks. I used to be a ghoster.

[B]

I'm a ghoster too.

[A]

I can put some distance between us if you don't catch the message. Like, if I've sent that message out to you and we do go split the bill and, like, you're still trying to. And again, that could be, like, part of my fault for even pursuing someone who was romantically interested in me. But if you can't, like, just be cool and be friends, like, I've asked. Then. Then the ghosting happens, and I put some serious distance between us.

[B]

I had an interesting exchange with a girl I dated for a while. I would say the last girl I dated semi. Seriously. Who. Like, we kind of. Like, it wasn't vibing. Like, it was great in the beginning, but it was like, we just faded off naturally without any conflict or fighting. And then one day, I was just looking at her Instagram, which I shouldn't do, but she's just so hot. And I'm like, dude, I kind of miss you. Though it was like, dude, I miss you. I'm sorry. I just have to say it. I just express it. And she was very nice. She was like. But at the same time, I know this is over. I know it's over. There's a But. I can't look at a photo of her and not be attracted. Right. That doesn't make any sense.

[A]

Because she's hot.

[B]

Because she's hot, but also, like.

[A]

And y' all didn't have, like, some weird, toxic.

[B]

No, dude. She was one of the least toxic people I've ever met. Like, just nice and. But I was just like. But she was like, dude, like, I support you. I'm so proud of what you're achieving right now. Like, she was just so. And I want to stay friends with you, and, like, I'm just rooting for you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. But I just. I just. You know. And she's dating another guy now, and I can see their photos or whatever. I'm like, they look so happy. Like, it makes me sad that I'm. I can't be in that. No. Maybe not with her. Because if she's not attracted to me that way, it would have never been that. But I'm like, I wish I had that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Kind of thing. But one day, maybe not one day. It doesn't matter.

[A]

Yeah. You never know.

[B]

So what are your. What? What? What. What makes you come?

[A]

Hmm.

[B]

I'm gonna give you a. So here's what I like to ask girls, right, that I date is how do you masturbate, technically, like, when I. Because I asked them alone. Well, yeah, of course. Well, you'd be surprised. But also, like, every girl's different, right? Every girl will react biologically to different stimuli, slightly different. And the way they masturbate tells a lot about what Brings them pleasure.

[A]

I think the hottest thing in the world is when a guy does something I ask him to do.

[B]

Oh hell yeah.

[A]

Because so many times I have asked men in relationships to just do something for me. Like I'll use the example of hanging a photo, right? And I'm like, can you just hang this on the wall for me? And then if it sits there for like three days and it doesn't get hung, that is such a turn off to me because I'm like, I'm just going to. Because I think about it non stop, I'm like, I'm just going to go fucking and hang the picture by myself. Why did I even ask that to me? But if I'm like, hey, will you hang this picture? If whatever the guy is doing, if he stops what he's doing and he does something I ask him to do and he hangs the picture on the wall, he's probably getting a blowjob.

[B]

Do you guys have any pictures I can go hang right now? Because I'll hang all the pictures in the studio right now.

[A]

That's what turns me on is when I ask for something.

[B]

This is not hung.

[A]

This is just, that's just, I don't know, actually things screwed on.

[B]

Yeah, there's a blowjob waiting for whoever fixes this. By the way.

[A]

It's not broken. But that's, that's, that's what, what about you?

[B]

Ah, dude, honestly, what turns me on?

[A]

Breast milk.

[B]

Oh, for sure. I know. Well, I don't know that, I don't know that for a fact. What turns me on? Honestly, it's intimacy. Like just, just if we're just watching a movie and we're cuddling and you're letting me touch you and you want me to touch you and you're just resting on me and you're comfortable and you slowly like start caressing me and stuff. The fact that I'm like that, like that's so sweet. Yeah. But it's gonna get me pretty hard. That's gonna be less sweet. But yeah, it's gonna be like I'm really enjoying myself right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Being desired, just being accepted, just being loved turns me on a lot.

[A]

What is the. So whenever you were married.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How did you propose?

[B]

I don't know if I want to go into private stuff. I need to find a fine line.

[A]

But was it romantic?

[B]

I thought it was very romantic. I, I had struggled to find, to have the ring at the time that I wanted it for a specific trip. So I only got the ring when I got It. Because the jeweler was a little late on. On in. In getting it ready now. It was like, at this art museum, like, on a very. Like, we had very similar artistic tastes. And so it was like, at this museum and it was a very pretty moment in the. Like, an outdoor garden and stuff. And. Yeah. Just. Just proposed and that is sweet. And we had had a beautiful day and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I didn't make a whole party with everybody or, like, I can't do that.

[A]

That. Yeah.

[B]

No. Yeah, yeah. And. Yeah, she said yes, I guess. And then. And then we were doomed for 12 years. Damn. Yeah.

[A]

Have you been really romantic with anyone else since then? Like, done anything romantic?

[B]

I guess romantic depends on what people find romantic. But I feel like I've been pretty romantic with.

[A]

What is romantic to you?

[B]

Acceptance.

[A]

That is. That is pretty romantic.

[B]

I know.

[A]

That's why I like it when people do things for me.

[B]

I'm like, yeah, just, just, just. Just feeding into the desires of that other person and just making them not feel awkward for wanting to do this or wanting to do that. Like, I don't know, like, holding hands and just having good conversation and then just. I don't know. It's just. Oh, you're letting me be me. That's romantic to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you have any other questions for me?

[B]

There's so many. It's all very.

[A]

Any love advice?

[B]

Love advice? You're. You're. You're.

[A]

You're.

[B]

You're. I mean, for your marriage.

[A]

I mean, I'm doing pretty good, but are you?

[B]

We don't know those boobs need sucking.

[A]

One mouth is enough.

[B]

Have you. Have you had good, good sex life since the baby was born?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. What's been the secret? Like, to. Because I think some couples, like, struggle after.

[A]

Well, I really work pretty hard on not letting myself go.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I work out pretty hard. I care about my image a lot, but I would say that that's kind of a secret in the way for yourself and not so much the other person. So I'm not maintaining a physical appearance to necessarily be sexy, but to feel sexy, if that makes sense. It's more of how I feel about myself.

[B]

I made a mess anyway. It's okay. It's because we're talking about being sexy and I just start ruling. Sorry about that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Good.

[A]

I feel like you got to feel good.

[B]

I've struggled with women giving up on their image while we're together, and then when we break up, they start getting hotter, and I'm like.

[A]

Why not? When we were together, yeah.

[B]

Should have done that while we were together.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's why I liked you. I mean, I'm. Oh, it's shallow. I should be able to, like. Nah. Take care of yourself.

[A]

I think when someone takes care of themselves, it says a lot of things. It says that if they can take care of themselves, they can take care of you and they can take care of other things around them. Like, there's just a lot of energy that goes into someone, like, around someone who's taking care of themselves.

[B]

Like, for. For a long time, my love language was just getting shit done. So I'm not constantly trying to be like, bachelor, romantic. You know, those grand gestures is more. Yeah, I'm. I'm paying the bills. I'm doing this. I'm making sure needs are taken care of. I drive you here. I make sure of that. I make sure of bc, you know, whatever you need will be taken care of. But then some people want, you know, more like, you know, they want. Well, I want more physical touch or. I want this kind of language. I want you to tell me you love me or I want you. I don't like it when you say you love me. It's like people are so contradictory.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That. That's why now I'd like to. I know the. When the right person comes, it will just happen. And otherwise it will probably be a really toxic person because that's who I end up with. Yeah.

[A]

What is. Last question. What is the most toxic quality that you think you attract?

[B]

Such a good question. Oh, God. I don't want to think for too long on this. It's a very complicated question.

[A]

You know, there's a lot of toxicity out there. What is one that just keeps reoccurring.

[B]

I keep finding women who feel like arguing in a very aggressive way or being like, verbally, like. Like they like the drama. Like too much drama, you know, they. They. If I don't engage in that, they're turned off by that or something, you know, they like.

[A]

I don't like. They like some of that fight.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm not about that. I'm about clear communication, not just not communicating your feelings. But I just. I would like to not have as much drama.

[A]

I'm a terrible fighter.

[B]

Have you ever had. Have you ever thrown stuff at a guy?

[A]

No.

[B]

Has a guy ever thrown stuff at you?

[A]

No.

[B]

Have you ever been afraid for your life in a relationship? No. Yeah. Then you haven't lived.

[A]

I haven't.

[B]

I've been. I've gone to bed thinking she might murder me tonight.

[A]

Oh my gosh.

[B]

Yeah. Like literally just.

[A]

I've been in more like mentally manipulative relationships where a guy can like just manipulate.

[B]

How do you define manipulation versus trying to take care of your needs and not being afraid of saying something.

[A]

You know, there was a time in my life when I was pretty poor and I was dating someone who was very wealthy. And every time that I would try to do something for myself, whether it was like perform or do some work or whatever, he would try to like pounce on this, on that opportunity for me and want to travel with me or take me somewhere or take me away from anything that I could do to fund myself because he wanted me to stay day needing him and not find success on my own. And he always wanted to take me to these really lavish places. And so it was hard to say no, but I. And I was very young and I just didn't know what to do and I stayed in this relationship and I was also like coming out of a marriage myself, so I was like lost and I was sad and.

[B]

How old were you?

[A]

I was like 24. No, I was probably like 27.

[B]

Okay. And you had already one marriage that.

[A]

Yeah, I was married from like 22 to 27.

[B]

Oh God, that's already. That's so young to get married.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Another, another toxic trait I found is women who tried to take me away from my friends.

[A]

So I hate that.

[B]

I hate that they're like, why are you friends with that guy? Because we've known each other for 20 years.

[A]

Don't question off, bitch.

[B]

Yeah. I love the guy. Yeah. Is he useless? Yes, he totally useless. But I know if I'm in trouble, I can always go to him.

[A]

He's a friend. He doesn't need to be useful.

[B]

Yeah. And, and, and, and another thing is, is honesty is women who. And I'm sorry, ladies, I don't care if you are a stay at home mom or not. My, my work. I don't care. I do not care. I have, I have a. I have. One of the things that really annoyed me with some past relationships were things like, well, but I, I do this at home. Like I clean and I do this or I'm helping you with this or I'm helping you with that. I was like, I was single for a long time before I met you. And I managed to eat and my apartment was clean and I got things done either way. Like, I don't need you for anything practical. Anything practical is solved by me in what I need. Yeah, I need you to love me. Right.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. That's so sweet.

[B]

Thank you. And also the shit out of me. Please just. You know what I mean?

[A]

That's great. What a high note to end on. Where can people find you?

[B]

They can fan. They can find me on Instagram, I guess, for the most part. Please follow me because my account has been stagnating. So it's a really, really helpful. If you click that follow button on Sadman Rick on YouTube, it's all everything Sadman Rick everywhere. Everywhere. And I've started on my YouTube to do this. I just started a little podcast called Deez because people mispronounce my last name. It's Diaz, but they say Deez sometimes. So I called it Deez Nuts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I just started that. I just had Timmy, no breaks on. I've had Danny Martinello. I've had a lot of people from Kill Tony. I've got episodes coming up with the band members of Kiltoni.

[A]

Fun.

[B]

It's gonna be a lot of fun. But, you know, any viewership I can get on that helps me out and any come to my live shows, you know, if you see me coming to your town, come by.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Hell yeah. Well, thank you for coming on my show.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Thank you guys for watching another episode. We'll see you next time. Are you really drinking a glass of milk with dinner? You told your mom about me? Just say, you ready? Delete my number. First date. Your parents are your roommate. First date.

[B]

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