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I'm so excited to see you tonight.
First date, baby.
First date. I can't wait.
First date.
What's up you guys? Welcome to another episode of First Date. My guest today was a singer in O Town. He's been on Wicked. He's also the co founder of the High level Science line of medical grade supplements. Give it up for Ashley Parker Angel.
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Thank you for having me.
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Thank you for coming on.
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Thank you so much.
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How are you?
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I'm excellent. I'm loving Austin.
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You said this wasn't your first time here.
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No, I've been here a few times, but it's like getting better and better each time. And we were talking before the show started, like, I have so many friends that moved out here.
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Yeah, Yeah.
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I went to this Greek restaurant last night called abba.
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Abba? Yeah, abba.
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Oh my God.
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So good. It's good.
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So good. Food is great, vibe is great. People are great.
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Who'd you go with?
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I here with my business partner right now.
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Okay.
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You know, I'm like a guy that came here a lot through the music industry. So like you always play shows in Austin and. But there's a huge trend. Like I was telling you, I lived in LA for 20 years. So many people, I'm sure you talk about this all the time have moved from LA to Austin.
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Yeah. Are you dating anybody?
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Not currently.
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So you're just fully single? How long have you been single?
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After Covid the dark times, I. I was in a relationship. Actually kind of ended up dwindling a little bit through Covet and it just felt like a mutual decision to kind of break it off. And then at the same time I launched my company and as a co founder of a company and a startup, it was like my first real experience being like in my full blown entrepreneur, businessman era. Because it's like different when you're in entertainment. Like you play shows at night and you have your whole day. Yeah, you get that?
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Yeah.
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As a comedian and a performer, when you're running a startup and you're the co founder of a company it is so different. Like, you're on the phone from the minute you get up to, like, midnight.
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So it's harder to date.
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It was harder to date, yeah. But I feel like now I've finally gotten into this tipping point where it's exploding, which I'm so. I'm so grateful for, is going fantastic.
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Great.
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I feel like I pivoted out of entertainment now into health and wellness, which was always a vision for me in my life.
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Congrats.
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Thank you. Yeah. So I'm really excited to be where I'm at right now and really excited to, you know, get out there and meet some people.
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Are you trying to meet anyone?
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I'm not on dating apps.
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Okay.
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I'm actually totally not a dating app person. Never had one.
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That's good, because you would get kicked off and banned for catfishing. No one would believe that you're on a date. They'd be like, oh, this person is faking.
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You know, it's so funny that you say that. People have DMed me and said, I was talking to you on this app, and I'm like, that's not me.
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's not me.
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It would never work out for you.
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Wow, that's crazy. And with AI now, it's even crazier because, like, people could, like, FaceTime you or, like, send, like, audio messages, use AI to, like.
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Oh, that's so scary.
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Oh, my God. Catfishing Was that show back in the day, the catfish show?
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I don't know.
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Have you been catfished?
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No, but I have gone on a date with a guy that wore a hat for, like, all the dates.
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Okay.
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And he looked great in the hat.
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Okay.
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And I was like, this guy's hot.
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Okay.
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And then he took the hat off.
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What kind of hat?
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Like, just, like, a baseball hat. Like a base.
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Backwards cat?
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Yeah. Like, sometimes it'd be backwards, sometimes it'd be forwards.
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Cool.
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I'm like, whatever. You know, Like, a frontwards hat is always cool. Backwards hat is just badass. You know, it's just like, Josh is like, oh, you're so hot. But then he took the hat off, and it was like. Like the. Like. Like, ball.
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Oh, so that was the reason why he wore the hat.
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Yeah. And then so I did get catfished.
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Oh, yeah. Okay.
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And it was. And it's so shitty that that, like, ended it for me.
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Damn, that sucks.
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I know. He could have gone to Turkey, right? I know. We could have.
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He could have done the transfer.
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We could have gotten it fixed.
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Or, like, a great, like, hair system.
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But I was so mad.
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Yeah.
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That I was like, into this guy.
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Yeah.
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And he didn't. He wasn't fully honest.
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Do you feel like it was a little deceitful?
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Yeah.
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You do, don't you? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like, you're not getting. Yeah.
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Like, what if I stuffed my bra, right. With socks, you know, and you're like, oh, this girl is like, got some huge knockers.
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Fair.
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And then I take off my bra, the socks fall out, and I'm an A cup.
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Fair point.
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You're like, fuck.
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Yeah. It's same reason why I don't do the dating apps, because I feel like people do not use accurate pictures. From what I've been told by friends that do use dating apps. Like, nine out of ten times you meet someone and it's not an accurate picture.
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Yeah. It's like that's their photo that has been face tuned.
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Right. And it's not. It's not a representation of who they are.
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It's what they want to look like.
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Which is why I like to call me old school. I like to meet people in real life.
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When is the last person you met someone in real life?
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In a gym, which I feel like as an adult now. Like, that's where I meet people.
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Okay.
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I go to the gym a lot.
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You're also into supplements and working out. Like, that's your vibe.
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That's my vibe. Like, I'm into health and wellness now. Like, back in my 20s, it was supplements and gyms.
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Okay. Health and wellness.
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Yeah. Supplements and gyms. You nailed it. That's what it is. It was, you know, bars and clubs in my teens and twenties, and now it's. You meet people at the gym. That's where, like, adults, where I'm at in life, that's where we meet each other.
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How do you approach someone at the gym?
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I don't, because I feel like the thing is, like, if someone's working out, you really don't want to be the person that interrupts them, because I've had that happen to me. But I feel like there's enough. There's enough of a vibe that you can pick up on. Like, if you're kind of next to someone, they're working out at the station next to you, you kind of catch eyes a little bit. Someone takes off their. Their earbud. Because, I mean, again, you know, the gym, I don't go to the gym for that. I go to the gym to work out.
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Okay.
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But it's a great place to meet people who are also into, like, a similar you know, that's kind of a hobby of mine, but also a professional pursuit. So it's a great place to meet, like, like minded people.
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Do you think you're intimidating, though? Whenever you're working out? You're shredded. This is like what you do for a living.
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Too kind. But I. I don't know. Actually, I don't. I feel like I'm intimidated. But I have to remember that everybody is in their own head. Like, everybody is self conscious. I think that's something that helps people get over. Like, just meeting people in general is like, everybody is kind of faking it. Everybody's like, in their own head. Everybody's self aware, Everybody's self conscious. So I'm no different than, like, the average person like that.
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How is dating nowadays different than dating when you were, like, in O town?
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Oh, wow. You know, I had a girlfriend the entire time I was in O town.
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I mean, that probably saved you a lot of drama.
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It did, yes, it absolutely did. It kept me out of trouble.
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That's good.
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That's great. That's great. I had a lot of friends that were like, dude, you're in a boy band. Like, why are you. Why are you keeping a girlfriend this entire time? We broke up, like, right at the end. Like, right at the tail end. Yeah. So like four years of being in O Town. Like, I had my high school sweetheart, though, so that's like a hard one to get over. Yeah, you know.
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How did you get over her?
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It took a while, actually. I feel like that was really circumstantial because I was from a really small town. I grew up, like, out in the country, out in, like, farmland. Northern California. A town called Redding near Chico, if you know where that is at Mount Shasta. Great place to grow up. Redwood Forest Lakes. It was an awesome place to grow up. But she lived in a neighboring town. Her parents had a horse ranch. She was from the country. We met in this small town and then like, all of a sudden, like, I got shot out of a cannon because my first audition was for this project called Making the Band, which was kind of the first show of its kind that ever put together a band on TV like this. And then like a couple months and I was like, I moved away from home and I never went back. So we did the long distance thing.
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This is so a show from the cw.
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Yes. It was a major storyline on our reality show Making the Band. Like, if I go back and watch that, it's a time capsule of all my relationship drama.
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Wow.
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Like, my storyline is all about Shelly, my girlfriend from high school. It's like the main storyline through three seasons of reality tv.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So I can relive that by watching it. Damn. Yeah.
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So nowadays, how would you. What is your dating life like now when you go out with someone? What is, what do you do for a first date?
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First dates. I feel like it might sound boring, but I feel like a good first date is like low stakes for both people.
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Okay. You know, like coffee.
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Coffee. Coffee or drink coffee or a drink. Because I feel like the first dates just like vibing it out, you know what I mean? If you have someone over to your house, it feels a little bit like that's, that's a little intimidating.
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Yeah.
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Either way, no matter whose house you're going to.
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Yeah.
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Plus I feel like, you know, it's not always going to be a match. In fact, maybe more often than not, it's not a match.
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Yeah.
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So like, if you do coffee or drinks, like, you can kind of figure that out in like 45 minutes to an hour.
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And it's so much easier to leave a coffee shop than to get someone to leave your house.
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Yes. Or be. Or be stuck at like a really fancy restaurant.
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Yeah.
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At a dinner and you haven't even finished drinks or had appetizers or an.
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Entree and you're like, God, I don't like this person.
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You're like, this is not the right chemistry.
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But, you know, how would you exit? How would you exit if you were at a fancy dinner and you had to get out of it, what would be your, like, go to exit?
Let's say it's going terrible.
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I had a friend that creates a backup plan for this and he has a, he has a friend that's ready to call with some emergency that's like pre planned so he can bounce. I feel like I am, honestly, I feel like I'm a little bit of a people pleaser and so I would have to just get through it. I have to finish the dinner. We got to get to the check. You know, I'm not going to bounce in the middle of it. That feels, that just feels rude. You know what I mean? But another reason why that's a second or third date, which is great because then you can dress up. I like to dress up. I like to give a girl an opportunity to dress up. Like, go to a really great restaurant.
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Yeah.
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But I feel like that's like a second or third date. First date, coffee or drinks.
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I really, I really love a girl that can laugh at herself. I'm big on like self deprecating humor. And throughout my life, like, because I was always in the entertainment industry, I feel like I dated a lot of like actresses and models and sometimes like wouldn't be able to like laugh at themselves or took themselves really seriously.
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Right.
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I'm, I'm really a goof. I'm a nerd. I grew up a nerd. I wasn't the popular kid in school. I was a total bookworm. I was raised a Jehovah's Witness.
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Wow.
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Yeah. Which was like really specific. That is, you're not allowed to go to school dances or school parties.
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No holidays.
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No holidays, no birthdays. You grow up feeling different. So like I always loved the teenage movie where like the nerd like blossoms into like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like where the nerd goes through the transformation and like blossoms into like the hot popular person at school.
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Yeah.
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That always like spoke to me because that I felt like I was never the popular kid. So I like, I actually like, I Like, someone that has a nerdy side.
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Mm. How are holidays now?
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I didn't start celebrating holidays until I was, like, actually an adult, because I. Well, I'm not. I'm no longer in that religion. I love my family, and I'm, you know, great now with my mom and my dad, but I was actually excommunicated from the church, which was, like, a big hurdle to get over, because for a long time, nobody in my family could talk to me.
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Really?
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Yeah, it was. That was a pretty intense. But actually, I'm really grateful for that in a. In a way where I found the silver lining of it.
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Yeah.
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And it gave me, like, an independence from, like, a young age because I was kind of on my own, and. And so you get a certain, like, mental toughness from that.
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Yeah.
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You know, you're like.
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You know, if you guys are on board, you get Christmas presents, right?
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Yes. Which, like, the first. As a Jehovah's Witness kid, like, when you finally celebrate the holidays, you're like, oh, my God. Like, this is what I was missing.
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Yeah.
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For 18 years of my life.
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Oh.
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You know.
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Yeah.
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And my son's mom, and we're not together anymore, but, like, she actually threw me my very first, like, surprise birthday party, and Amazing. Like, one of the coolest birthday party I've ever had. Like, I'm grateful I got to do it. You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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So, like, I be. But look, I. I feel like everything in life leads you to where you're at, so Even the obstacles and the challenges and the adversity. So I'm, like, grateful for the way I was raised.
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Right.
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I've taken. Taken the good from it.
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That's great.
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But, yeah, it was definitely, like, you grow up feeling, like, very fish out of water in a lot of ways because you feel so different as a Jehovah's Witness kid.
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Yeah. That's an intense religion.
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Yeah. Did you ever have friends that were.
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My mom had a co worker.
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Okay.
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My mom was a nurse, and so she had a co worker that was a Jehovah's Witness, and they were, like, besties. And so she would always talk about her friend, you know, and we would have Thanksgiving and Christmas, and she would never invite her friend, which always felt so weird to her because she's like, you're my best friend. But her friend wouldn't celebrate anything because that was against her religion, and she was, like, stone cold with it.
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And fair. You respect people's beliefs, but they were friends outside of all that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's what it is. You're very. You get used to feeling different. You're the different kid in school for sure. Like, as a kid growing up, you're very aware that you're like, you're very different than the rest of the kids.
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Yeah. So back to going out to dinner. You find some chemistry that you like with someone. Someone who's self deprecating. What's a red flag?
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A red flag? A red flag. I think a red for both men and women. I can't get behind this idea of being best friends with your exes. Like, I get being friendly with your exes, but I dated a girl that was literally like, oh, my God, he's my best friend now. And he's my best friend, too. And I'm like, these are all. But these are all your exes, like, for years at a time. And I feel like. I don't know. I mean, for me, I feel like it's always complicated once you've had love with someone or. And then obviously, you know, you've slept with them and all of that. So it's like, I feel like if you're in a new relationship. I do feel like it's. For me, anyways. If you're best friends with all your exes and you still spend time together, that's a little bit of a red flag.
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I think that's a big red flag.
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Yeah.
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I would never be with someone who was friends with one ex.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Leave that shit at the door.
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Leave it at the door. And if you see them out, like, you're friendly, like, you're. Hey, what's up? You know, it's fine to be friendly.
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You can be nice if you see them in person. And then it's my job to stab them in the back or put poison in their drinks, you know, I'll do that.
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Exactly.
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You don't have to. I will.
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You'll take care of it.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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Yeah.
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But if. If I date a guy and he's like, even chatting with another girl and he's like, this was my ex girlfriend. Oh.
No.
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Yes. Thank you. Because then there's the question of even. Can, like, can men and women just be friends too? Like, if you're really, really close, is it one of them always maybe has a little bit of, like, an attraction? Is there a window open in your mind? I don't know. Like, that's a question. That's a question that I ask.
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Yeah. I think that. I think that girls and guys can definitely be friends.
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Okay.
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But I Don't think that someone that you have dated.
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Yeah.
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And, like, messed around with is totally different and had emotional involvement with.
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Yeah.
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I don't think that there's a friendship there.
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That's a whole different ball game.
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Yeah.
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Once you've been in a relationship with someone, that's.
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That either works out and you're with that person or that doesn't work out and you're just like, damn, that this isn't. We can't stay in touch anymore. Cause I'm not with you.
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And if you're keeping up those ties and you're that close, is it because it's like the backup plan?
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Yeah.
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Like, on some. Like, if this doesn't work out, I've got these in the pipeline. I don't know.
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Also that, like, from a girl's perspective, if I have a guy like that, I know that he's gonna be on pins and needles waiting for me to vent to him about how shitty my situation is so that he can feel like the fallback plan.
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Right.
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And it's like, I don't want to give someone else that hope. And girls somehow, like. Like to have that guy because they know that someone's seeking them.
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Yeah.
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And it's like a security blanket.
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I appreciate your perspective on it. Yeah. That's like a little window into the female psyche.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it's like, well, if you maintain your friendship with this guy that you know is in love with you and your relationship doesn't work out.
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Yeah.
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Then you can always go get that guy.
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Exactly. And it's a. It's a. It's a safety net.
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Yeah.
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It's a backup plan.
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That's not fair.
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I agree. I mean, it didn't work out with the person.
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I did let that guy go. Let that girl go.
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A lot of conversations with friends about this.
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How. How did she defend herself?
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That, like, there was a bond there and that it started as friendship. And so, like, you know, once you've been friends with someone, like, you've experienced all these great things in life, you have all these memories. Like, you don't want to let that go because there's still a part of your life. There's still a chapter of your life. But I feel like when you're in the new chapter, like, the other chapters are behind you now for sure. You can't keep every chapter alive.
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No.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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100%.
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I feel like we're on the same page on that.
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I think.
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So I would ask friends, I would be like, is this A red flag. And my guy friends be like, dude, that's a red flag.
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Yeah.
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I've never heard somebody say that. It wasn't.
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Do you fall in love easily?
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I have historically fallen in love very easily. Maybe too easily, actually. I feel like. I feel like I do lean romantic, so I feel like I've liked the feeling of getting swept up in that, you know, but, like, when you're young and you've never experienced what I might call the love hangover, like, you don't have as much.
Strategy about what's happening.
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Yeah.
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Like, you just give yourself over to it. You just throw yourself in. You're all in. I feel like as you go through, you know, relationships in life, like, you. You start to learn a little bit more how to, like, pace yourself. And maybe, like, especially as you're just getting to know someone, you don't know someone in the first couple weeks.
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Yeah.
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Like, I moved in when I actually. And I've done a lot of, like, reality TV in my life, so my second relationship with my son's mother was an MTV reality show I did. So a lot of my relationship drama has been turned into tv, and I can relive it all. But with. With her, it was, like, very similar. Like, we met each other, and we moved in, like, four weeks later with each other.
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Do you like having relationships on TV now?
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I don't. And now moving forward, I'm gonna x nay on the reality show.
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But what if someone offered you, like, a lot of money to air to go? Like, let's say this. Let me give you a scenario, okay? You find a girl. She's the one. And you are so happy, and you're so in love, and it's been, like, at least a year, and you're, like, pretty solid. You know who this girl is? Then Netflix comes in, and they're like, we want to put this on air. And it's like, your next chapter. But do you think it would ruin.
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Adds a lot. It adds so much pressure to the relationship when you're living on camera. Like, you have cameramen following you everywhere. Yeah, but maybe third time's a charm. I mean, I've done it twice.
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You're, like, hard. No, but maybe.
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Maybe third time's a charm. Or maybe I just hold out for Golden Bachelor.
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Ooh.
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You know, like, that's gonna take you so long.
Yeah, that's gonna be where I'm gonna.
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Be, like, 60, 60.
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I think the guy on it now is, like, 60. 65.
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60. Yeah.
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Okay, so I've got a good like 20, 25 years. Okay. That gives me time to really, you know, prepare.
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If you don't find anyone by the.
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Time you're 65, then I might as well just do Golden Bachelor.
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You might as well be the Golden.
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Bachelor at that point. Like. Yeah, at that point. You might as well.
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That's so funny.
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I do feel like I'm. I love the show 90 Day Fiance.
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Okay.
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Have you watched it?
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No.
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It's so good. It is all like. It's people that like date, like internationally.
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Okay.
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And they, you know, again, to live together, get the green card. Like you have to get married in 90 days.
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Yeah.
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And then everybody in their family is like, no, they're just doing this for the green card. Or. Or they really are in love. But then there's like cultural differences and language differences and like, there's just. It's all relationship dating driven. But it's probably the most real reality show I've ever watched because a lot of reality scripted. This one feels like totally real.
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Uh huh.
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So I thought like, if they ever do some kind of spin off, because there's literally like 20 spin offs of 90 Day Fiance.
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Yeah.
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I've never dated a foreigner.
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Really?
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No.
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I married one.
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Oh, you did?
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I did.
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Wow. Which. Which country?
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You know what? My. My ex husband is just like this show that you're saying. We got married after two years of dating long distance.
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Wow.
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Because he had to get a green card to move to the States.
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Wow.
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So we decided to get married. He got his green card.
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No way.
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And then we were married for seven years. Wow. Yeah.
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Oh my.
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In la. I've experienced that whole thing.
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Oh my gosh. Now did that. Did it add a little bit of like? Again, that's an extra layer of challenge to work with.
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He didn't speak English.
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Okay.
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And it was really cool. We would translate on our phones. We couldn't like, talk on the phone.
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Oh my God.
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Okay.
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And we met.
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You're just texting back and forth.
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And so we were texting and we would be in front of each other and we would just be texting because he couldn't speak English and I couldn't speak Italian. So we would. And we would do stuff. We were living in California, so we would go to like Universal Studios and we would have the times of our lives.
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Literally texting just through text.
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Through text. Communicating.
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Probably get good. Really in tune with like non verbal communication.
A
100%.
B
Right. Cause so much communication is nonverbal. Anyway, so is this before Google Translate apps where you can just talk it in and like.
A
Yeah, it was like on WhatsApp, but there was an app called iTranslate.
B
Okay.
A
And I used that app.
B
That's so funny. I had no idea about this.
A
And at the same time, I was on Rosetta Stone, so I was actively spending four hours a day trying to learn Italian as fast as I could. And he was doing the same thing with English. And So by the second year of U.S. living together, I was fluent in Italian and he was fluent in English.
B
That's commitment.
A
And then it was great.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then it almost opens up a whole new world of actually being able to. I've actually never. I've never heard that exact story before. That is a really. That's commitment to try to learn someone else's language.
A
It was cool. But I loved Italian. Italian is a beautiful language.
B
It is. Oh, Italian is one of the most beautiful.
A
I also lived in Italy for a year.
B
Oh, my God, you did?
A
I did.
B
I was just in Italy a year ago.
A
Where did you go?
B
I. I was actually. I was in Florence.
A
Love it.
B
Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah. I want to spend more time there. You know, actually I grew up obviously in California, so, like a lot of the weather is similar to California. Napa Valley, right? Wine, vineyards, all that stuff. I was like, oh, this is like kind of like Napa Valley. But the. But the language is so different. And Italian food has always been my favorite cuisine. Like, I can cook a mean lasagna, pizza, pasta. Like, I love Italian food. So I want to go back.
A
You Should.
B
Yeah.
A
Italy is a really fun place. I've always loved Italy. Even now, I don't have, like, any kind of, like, weird grudge.
B
There's no baggage.
A
No.
B
There's no, like. Okay. No, that's good.
A
And I don't talk to him. Imagine that.
B
Oh, wow. Yeah. So hopefully you don't run into him.
A
I left it at the door.
B
I was like, you'd have to visit a different city that he's not in.
A
In case you're supposed to. Yeah. But he lived in, like, a tiny town in called Modena, which, like, nobody really goes to. Like a village.
B
Yeah.
A
So Italy, to me is, like, still Italy. It's still, like, so cool. And I still speak to. I would say I'm semi fluent. I didn't get around.
B
How long does it take to get semi fluent?
A
It depends on how fast you want inside of you. Like, do you want to learn it? And then I had him to speak it every day.
B
Right. That helps.
A
So I was, like, trying to speak.
B
It, and he's almost, like, teaching you.
A
Yeah. And so he would teach me, I would teach him. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
But anyway, fuck him. We don't need to talk about him anymore.
B
Okay. Okay.
A
I hate that I'm painting, like, such a romantic picture about him. He's fucking.
B
He's edited out.
A
He's a scumbag. Okay? He is a scumbag and he doesn't deserve that much recognition on this show. He cheated on me and he can go to hell. Yes. Fuck him. Oh, man.
B
Yeah.
A
Bastard. I'm just kidding. You're still a great guy. Not really, but you know what I mean. It's like, fuck you. So.
B
God, I'm sorry to hear that. It's. Fuck. You didn't deserve that. Obviously. That's terrible.
A
But I took all the good shit with me.
B
That's what you gotta do.
A
Yeah.
B
You gotta take the good.
A
Yeah.
B
Gotta take the good and keep rolling with life.
A
So what is. What do you want in your relationship life? Do you want a girlfriend? Do you want to get married?
B
Yeah. I could see. I could see marriage. I feel like, you know, again, like, as I pivoted out of entertainment, because I was in it for 20 years, I feel like. I feel like I would be really well matched with someone that's also independent or has a certain level of independence.
Because, again, like, as an entrepreneur, like, you are very focused a lot on building a business, and I'm someone that's traveling around and going to trade shows and flying to different cities to take meetings and stuff, so. I feel like independence is attractive to me.
A
Okay.
B
So. But I feel like you get to this age bracket, like where I'm at now, and like, people are typically like, they've had a relationship or they're divorced now, but they also have their own stuff going on. They have their own career, they have their own thing. I'm very attracted to that. Like somebody that has like a certain level of like, independence.
A
Yeah.
B
And maybe someone that's also into health and wellness because, like, if just naturally. Cause I'm passionate about it. If I date you, I'm gonna be like, what supplements do you take? Like, let's get you dialed in.
A
Okay. But do you have like, cheat nights?
B
Oh, for sure. Definitely.
A
You can be fun.
B
Oh, absolutely. You have to have a dose of debauchery, I call it.
A
Okay.
B
Gotta have a dose of debris.
A
Like you can have pizza at night.
B
Oh, for sure.
A
Yeah. Okay.
B
I just. Yeah, you gotta have pizza, you gotta have pasta, you gotta have lasagna.
A
Some guys in the gym don't.
B
Those are the purists. And that feels very boring.
A
Okay.
B
That feels. That's not me.
A
Do you drink alcohol?
B
I do on occasion. And I say. And I actually save up for it versus my twenties where I drink like a fish, like every night.
A
What do you like to drink?
B
I feel like the fitness enthusiast drink of choice is like vodka, club soda.
A
Boring.
B
I know, I know.
A
I'm just kidding.
B
It is boring.
A
But it is good drink.
B
Well, there's less of a hangover. Yeah, there's less of a hang. Less sugar.
A
Do you have a type of girl? Not a drink. Do you have a type?
B
I feel like I'm open minded as to what that is. I've dated, I would say almost like a 50, 50 split of brunettes and blondes.
A
Okay.
B
I feel I'm big on energy.
A
Boobs, butt, both. You can't have it all.
B
You can't have it all or nothing.
A
I guess you could. You could.
B
Okay.
A
You could.
B
Can I. Do I have to pick just one?
A
No, you don't.
B
Okay, well, both. Can we go both.
A
We can go both on that. Okay.
B
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel like you also get. You do learn yourself more over time. You, like, you learn what you want and what you don't want.
A
Yeah.
B
Over time I'm sure you're there too.
A
Yeah. I think the older that you get, also the.
Well, I found that, like, my level of pickiness went down.
B
Yes. Right. Like, I think you get more curious.
A
Yeah. Like, I would want. I would start being like.
How do.
B
I explain it or is it your values change? Like, what you value is probably different.
A
Yeah, my values definitely changed too.
B
Right?
A
Yeah. I found myself after Covid, very independent and, like, I was having a great time. And, like, I really felt like where I was at in my career, I didn't need any guy. Any guy.
B
Okay.
A
To, like, support me whatsoever.
B
Right.
A
And up until that point, I did, like, I. I needed someone that, like, had a good income so that I didn't feel so much pressure to pay my rent, you know, like, I would want a guy to help me out a little bit.
B
Sure.
A
And then after Covid, I totally had it down. I was like, nope, I don't need anyone. And then I had fun.
B
Yes, that is a great place to be.
A
And then I started, like, looking at guys, and I was just like, I have to, like, really like you. Whereas oppo.
B
And how do you put your finger on exactly what that is?
A
I guess chemistry.
B
Chemistry and energy. I'm big on energy. Do you believe in, like, signs or astrology or.
A
A little bit.
B
A little bit.
A
A little bit. I know. I don't like Scorpios.
B
Okay.
A
What are you?
B
I'm a Leo.
A
Okay.
B
And I'm, uh. Oh, she laughed.
A
No, no. I don't know anything about Leos.
B
Oh, you don't?
A
You're the lion, right?
B
He's a lion.
A
Obviously, he's the Leo. But you're, like, strong and you're the leader.
B
That and, like, very, very, very.
A
You haunt gazelles.
B
Yeah, the.
A
I know shit about sides, but they sound good. I'm a Virgo.
B
That's okay. And I need to, like. I don't know enough to know exactly what. But you led with, like, the more positive traits of Leo. I appreciate that. Thank you.
A
You're welcome.
B
I appreciate that. Because Leos can like to be the center of attention.
A
Oh, yeah. Who doesn't?
B
But who doesn't? Right?
A
Who is?
B
That's why I think some of it's bullshit.
A
Does anybody here not like to be the center of attention?
B
Some of it's bullshit. Right. Like, you read a horoscope sign, you kind of find yourself a little bit in each one of them.
A
Yeah, of course. Because a lot of them are, like, positive.
B
Yeah. And some of it's so general. But then recently I did the birth natal chart.
A
Oh.
B
Where you have to know the location geographically, where you're born, and the time of day that you're born.
A
Okay.
B
And then it gives you, like, a much more, like, comprehensive, like, in depth, like, psychological breakdown, like that kind of Blew my mind, I'm not gonna lie.
A
And was it accurate? Yeah, that is wild.
B
Like, eerily accurate.
A
Wow.
B
Yeah. Very, very weird. Very weird. I mean, I think, like the general horoscope, like that you like, it's like in the magazines. I feel like that's just like entertainment.
A
It's like, whatever.
B
That's just like entertainment value.
A
Is there a sign that, you know, you don't like, like, if you meet a girl and you're like, she's like, I'm a this.
B
No. Because I don't know enough about it. And I also don't want to box myself in.
A
Okay.
B
Like, I like to stay curious. That's why I think, again, your values change. Like when you're in your 20s and 30s, like, maybe you're like. Or teenage years, like, you, you're very kind of like, narrow on, like, what you would be into and then you kind of like, live life a little bit. And like, I think it helps, like, especially if you're single and you're looking to meet someone to kind of like stay. Stay curious about.
A
Yeah.
B
Meeting people.
Learning about people.
A
Do you hook up with people?
B
I haven't been after, after Covid. Like, and the way I shifted so much in the direction of business too, that I was like, I didn't have. I didn't really have the time, honestly. And I was okay with that for the first time because I was actually go. I was someone who for like 20 years was in like two or three really long term relationships, but then always kind of like bouncing into a dating situation and bouncing into like a dating situation. And I kind of reached a point where I was like, maybe, actually I don't do that for a second. And that was a huge benefit because I launched a company and I was able to go all in on that for a minute and that felt good. Yeah. I'm a big believer in going all in. Even on relationships, like when you know, you know, and you go all in. I don't think it takes a super long time to figure that out. But no. So I've been kind of like, I'm also back and forth between LA and Vegas and like, so far meeting people in Vegas has been a little bit of a challenge.
A
Why?
B
Maybe because I'm just in the gym most of the time.
A
Oh.
B
Like, I'm not on the strip.
A
Okay.
B
You know, that could probably go to the strip and meet a lot more people.
A
Do you.
Have you ever been on a date with like a secret fan?
B
It's a really good question.
I did date A girl who. Who told me, like.
A month into it that she didn't want to tell me, but that she was like. She was like, I had your. Had your poster, like, in my bedroom.
A
How did that make you feel?
B
It doesn't change things, did it? No, I think it's a compliment, actually. I think it's a compliment. I definitely. She didn't come off, like. It wasn't like she was coming off stalkerish or anything.
A
Yeah.
B
You know what I mean? Like, and. And plus, like. Like, the teenage crush is so different than when you kind of, like, grow out of that. You can kind of appreciate it for what it was. But you're not, like, stalking someone's every move.
A
Yeah.
B
On the Internet, hopefully.
A
Yeah.
B
Maybe had a few stalkers, but have you.
A
You know, I'm sure you have.
B
Social media kind of changed things a little bit, you know, because people know where you're at.
A
Yeah.
B
Have your head stalkers. Yeah. Yeah.
A
But mine have been. I've had two, and they have both been scary. Oh, they haven't been, like, fun fans.
B
Like, restraining order scary.
A
One of them was. Yeah.
B
Oh, my God.
A
Yeah, it was really wild.
B
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
A
Yeah.
B
That's a reality show.
A
Yeah.
B
I like watching reality shows about stalkers and true, true crime. Do you like celebrity stalker stories?
A
Oh, my gosh.
B
Yeah. Like, there's a story, like, Jared Leto had a fan that cut off his own ear and, like, mailed it to him in the mail. Have you heard that one?
A
No.
B
Yeah, that one's crazy.
A
Yikes.
B
Yeah.
A
No. No one cut off a limb for me. I would have been so flattered.
B
Not yet.
A
Not yet.
B
It's. It'll happen.
A
No, I did not like stalkers because I think one of my biggest fear is, like, being defenseless. And so anytime that I feel like someone is approaching me, like, in an attacking kind of way, oh, my gosh. I just shrivel up like a prune. Like, I. I don't have any fight in me. Like, I wouldn't be, like, what, you.
B
You would close in?
A
Yeah, just like. Like, I would just, like, freak out and shrivel up and die for you.
B
So were they, like, following you around and stuff?
A
This one person knew where.
And.
B
Yeah, that's not good. Yeah, I had. I had someone that figured out where I lived and, like, took a picture of, like, my. My front door and, like. And, like, was sharing this information with other fans, and then that fan reached out and, like, hey, you're being stalked. Like, they're taking pictures.
A
Oh, that's Terrible.
B
Yeah. That's not. That's not.
A
Yeah. No, I don't like stalkers.
B
That's not a cool feeling.
A
It's different when you date a secret fan.
B
Yeah.
A
Cause that's kind of intriguing a little bit. It's like that girl had to hold that in.
B
Yes.
A
And she was probably, like, so excited that you liked her, and she was just like, yeah.
B
Yeah. And it was almost like. That's almost, like, sweet to me.
A
Yeah.
B
There's almost something about that that feels, like, genuine about, like, you know, whatever.
A
Like, we're all.
B
We all have things we're fans of when we're. When we're teenagers.
A
Yeah. Even my husband knew who you were.
B
Oh, really?
A
Yeah. I was talking about you last night. He's like, who's your podcast with? And I was like, ashley Parker Angel. And he's like, I know that name. How do I know that name? I was like, he was in O Town, and he's like, on his computer, he pulls it up and he's like, oh, I know that guy. I love that guy. I was a fan of that guy. And I was like, yeah, he's coming on my show. And he was like, damn, that's cool.
B
Shout out to your husband. He has good taste. He has good taste.
A
I thought it was really funny.
B
I'll send him some products. We have a. We have a man's sexual. A men's sexual wellness formula. So I don't know, again, you maybe you make the decision.
A
You guys, imagine me sending Mark men's sexual wellness products. Oh, my gosh, Ashley.
B
Our biggest customer for that is actually women buying it for their husbands. No joke. It's called high level. It's called high level, man. I'll send him some. Oh, my God.
A
That's. So you guys can exchange products. He owns a barbecue restaurant here in town.
B
Oh, he does.
A
He owns Terry Black's.
B
Oh, I love barbecue.
A
Yeah. So you can go eat some barbecue and he'll scarf down some of your subs.
B
We can, like, barter.
A
Yeah, I'll.
B
I'll hook him up. I'll hook him up. We've got heart, body and mind. We've got high level men. We've got all kinds of. I'll get him dialed in on the supplements.
A
Oh, my God. That's so funny.
B
Is he into, like. Is he into health and wellness or fitness? No. Okay.
A
No.
B
Is that why you're laughing?
A
Yeah.
B
Okay. Yeah.
A
That's not him at all.
B
He doesn't take supplements?
A
No.
B
Okay. Do you take supplements?
A
I do, but I Was pregnant for a long time, and so I got, like, kind of dialed in with my iron and my beef liver and fish oil and.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, now I take, like, a handful of fucking vitamins.
B
Yeah. Every night I'm into it. And I wish more people were because I hear people like, they. Once you get in your 30s and 40s, people like, I don't feel the same anymore. Like, my mood's off. I don't sleep well. It's like, if you understand proper supplementation.
A
Yeah.
B
Take a couple things. Like, a couple things. Not all supplements work, but it works.
A
Even magnesium.
B
Boom. We have a magnesium. Yeah. Magnesium is a big one. We don't get in our diet, but our next product is actually strictly for women.
A
Yeah.
B
It's a woman's health product. A woman's sexual health.
A
Okay.
B
Product. So. All right, I'll send you that. You got to keep it spicy in the bedroom, guys.
A
You do, you know, Would you. Have you given some of these products to girls you've been dating?
B
I have, yeah. Yeah. You know, it's me. I'm not. It's. If we go on a date, I'm.
A
Like, hey, baby, take this pill.
B
Do you take Omega 3s? Do you take Coq 10? Do you take vitamin. Oh, you don't. Here's Heart Body in Mind. Like, I'm like, I am. I am obviously in supplements and so. But honestly, like, I'm passionate about it, so that's why I started a company. Like, it's not like I'm. I didn't slap my name on a product. I built this company from the ground up. So a lot of what I talk about and what I live, eat, sleep, and breathe is like a very health and wellness driven lifestyle. But with that said, you gotta have a little dose of debauchery. But I like to earn it.
A
Yeah.
B
So, like, I don't give up holidays. I don't give up special occasions. Like, right now.
A
You gave up holidays for 18 years.
B
Yeah, I did that as a Jehovah's Witness.
A
Yeah.
B
I'm not giving up holidays anymore.
A
You can't do that anymore?
B
No. Everything in moderation. Everything in moderation.
A
So what's your cheat meal?
B
Ooh, I'm gonna go with Italian. I'm gonna go with pasta.
A
Okay.
B
I'm gonna go with lasagna. It's like, always been one of my tops, but pizza is a close second. And right now I'm kind of, like, gearing up for this Thanksgiving, which I'm like. I kind of, like, lean into it hard. So Then I can, like, let loose equally hard. Does that make sense? Yeah, like, and just go for it, like all weekend long, just eat every single thing.
A
Then you feel really proud of yourself. You're like, I can eat all this because I just worked my ass off.
B
Yes, you, you, you can do it guilt free because you actually are. You know, again, it's not what you do every once in a while. It's like what you do consistently. So in between all those times, like, I'm. I'm pretty. You know, it's a, It's a lifestyle for me.
A
Yeah.
B
I know that term gets thrown around a lot, but it's.
A
No, but if it's true.
B
Yeah.
A
Then that is. Then it's true. Some people can say that it's a lifestyle, and they don't really.
B
Which is why if I were to have a companion and date. Well, if I were to date someone and bring them into my life and like, they weren't into like eating healthy or taking supplements.
A
Yeah.
B
It might be kind of. It might be a pet peeve for somebody.
A
Right.
B
Because I. But I geek out on it. Like, I really, I like, I love to cook. I love to cook a lot of my own meals. I'm a little OCD about controlling, like, what I put in my body.
A
Really. I can see that.
B
Yeah. So I'm like, I like to cook, like, which is great. Cause that's a great. Not first date, but that's a great down the line date.
A
Yeah.
B
Cause I come over and like, I'll cook for you. I think that's attractive in people when you can like cook.
A
So the supplements that you have that are for women.
B
Yeah.
A
The sexual supplements. Does it turn a girl on?
B
Yeah.
A
And is it just supplements?
B
Yeah, it's all natural supplements. But the cool thing about this partnership I did is like, the formulations are by a world renowned cardiologist, a guy named Dr. David Rezik.
A
Okay.
B
Shout out Dr. David. He's won three Emmys.
A
Okay.
B
For. He's made three medical documentaries and won three Emmys in a row.
A
Okay.
B
He's. He's incredible. He has four daughters, though. He's really into women's health and also changing the standards in medicine. Like, the standard EKG is built around men's biometrics. It's not built around women. So he's trying to change even how like testing is done to really. He's really on the forefront of like woman's health. And with our heart, body and mind product, which is heart disease, it's about, it's Basically, it's a heart health product, but heart disease is the number one. This is a little negative. This is not a very uplifting conversation, is it? But heart disease is the number one killer for both men and women. You take this product, you're going to dial in your heart, which is going to dial in your brain and every other system in your body. And it's the perf. It's a. It's a leading edge, scientifically advanced product that any man or woman could be taking. But we always worry about cancer. Heart disease is actually what kills most people. It's the number one killer in terms of diseases. So again, a lot of his documentaries are about this. And when I launched the company, I always wanted to partner with someone that was really impressive and I feel really grateful because he's famous in the medical world. He sits on the medical advisory boards of, like, Boston Scientific and all these companies. He's like a genius. So the whole goal with my company, high level science, was to create like a very handful of supplements. Because as a doctor, he's the first one to tell you, like, most supplements don't work. They're marketing hype, they're fads. And there's only bee.
A
Beef liver does make you poop.
B
Is that a good thing?
A
For me, I love to poop.
B
Yeah, me too.
A
I always feel skinnier.
B
You are, you know, you just lost a pound.
A
Just want everyone to know that beef liver is not just all label. It does make you poop.
B
It does.
A
It does. It's iron.
B
Yeah. Lots of iron. Magnesium can make you poop.
A
I take magnesium too. I love to poop as a la.
B
Who doesn't.
Who doesn't like good sex versus good poop?
A
It's hard. Put them both together, boom. Orgasm combo.
B
Magic combo.
A
Oh, but automatically I'm ovulating. You know what I mean? It works.
B
Wow, I'm so turned on right now. This is. Yeah, this is going to be my next conversation for foreplay, for sure. This is great. This is great pillow.
A
Send someone like a little thing of poo pourri with their supplements.
B
Oh, poo pourri. I have some. I love it.
A
It works dead.
B
It absolutely works.
A
Well, I'm running out of time, so I want to ask you one last question.
B
Yeah.
A
Do you consider yourself romantic?
B
I do consider myself romantic.
A
What is the most romantic thing you have ever done for someone?
B
That's a good question. Not to be too on the nose, but I feel like, because I love to sing and play guitar and play piano, I feel like when I fall in Love, like, it always turns into songwriting for me.
A
What a musical. You know, you're like a walking, talking musical.
B
Yeah. And it's like. But I also feel like as a gift. And I've only done this with maybe two. The real. Two serious long term relationships I've had. I think maybe I've been in love twice in my life to go into a studio and to record a song and to give a person a song that lasts forever.
A
That is romantic.
B
Yeah. It's like a time capsule of that time in your life.
A
So you write a song.
B
Yeah.
A
And then you play it.
B
I write a song. I. I like to perf. I. I actually have done a lot of like, you know, take her out picnic. Like, play the song just acoustically or whatever. But I always go into the studio and record it and turn it into. I feel like obviously the greatest songs are all about love. And you get this as. As like an artist, as a performer. Like you. You end up turning your life into art. Like, probably some of your best, you know, stand up comes from, like, relationship.
A
Yeah.
B
Hate breakup songs also. It's like love songs.
A
All breakup song. Comedy for me is all breakup songs.
B
Breakup's funnier.
A
Yeah. I like to talk about my breakups.
B
Breakups are probably funnier in stand up comedy.
A
Yeah.
B
Than the. Than the gushy romantic love stuff. I mean, in terms of like, greatest songs ever, though, it's either love song or breakup song.
A
But let's be real. If you gave me some sex supplements, some beef liver, and you sang me a song, my heart would just explode. Like, that would be.
B
I got you covered.
A
That'd be all three. That'd be. Wouldn't that sound like a wet dream?
B
A liquid dream.
A
A liquid dream you just woke up soaking.
B
Okay.
A
So.
B
I appreciate this because you've given me the feedback I need.
A
That's what you need to do now. I know what you're doing.
B
Two, three punch.
A
One supplement. Two supplements.
B
Sex supplements.
A
Magnesium or whatever.
B
Sex supplements. Write you a song. Great shit.
A
Great poop, man.
B
That's true love.
A
That is everything you need right there. And then you're gonna go home and cook for her.
B
Yeah.
A
She's not going anywhere.
You've just bound yourself for life.
B
I feel like I just figured it out.
A
You're welcome.
B
Yeah. You've just given me the secrets.
A
Anytime.
B
To the next greatest relationship of my life.
A
Anytime.
B
I can't thank you enough.
A
Thank you for coming on my show.
B
Thank you for having me.
A
Where can people find you?
B
People can just search my name. Ashley Parker. Angel like, I'll pop up on, you know, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, all that for what I'm doing in health and wellness. I would love for people to go check out livehighlevel.com and our supplements are also on Amazon, Target, Walmart. We actually just did an amazing deal with the biggest national retailer in the country. So soon we'll be in stores everywhere.
A
Cool.
B
Yeah.
A
Congrats.
B
Thank you so much.
A
Thank you. And guys, thank you so much for watching another fabulous episode of First Date. We'll see you next time.
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Podcast: First Date with Lauren Compton – YMH Studios
Episode: The Boy-Band Bachelor: Ashley Parker Angel
Date: December 9, 2025
Guest: Ashley Parker Angel (Singer—O Town, actor in Wicked, co-founder High Level Science Supplements)
Lauren goes on a “first date” with Ashley Parker Angel, diving into his transition from boy-band fame to entrepreneurship, his thoughts on modern dating, the impact of reality TV on relationships, health and wellness obsessions, and all things red flags, romance, and real life. The tone is playful, flirty, and introspective, mixing laughs with candid personal reflection.
"As a co-founder of a company and a startup, it was my first real experience being full-blown entrepreneur, businessman era… It's so different when you're in entertainment. You play shows at night and you have your whole day." (02:23)
No Dating Apps for Ashley:
"People have DMed me and said, 'I was talking to you on this app,' and I'm like, 'That's not me.'" (03:16)
Meeting People Now:
"Call me old school. I like to meet people in real life." (05:27)
"You really don't want to be the person that interrupts someone… but there's enough of a vibe you can pick up on." (06:05)
How Dating Changed Since O Town:
What Ashley Looks for:
Big Red Flag:
"I would never be with someone who was friends with one ex. Leave that shit at the door." (17:21)
Chemistry & Romance:
"Maybe, actually, I don't do that for a second. And that was a huge benefit because I launched a company and was able to go all in on that…" (35:54)
First Date Dos & Don'ts:
“First date, coffee or drinks… you can kind of figure that out in 45 minutes to an hour.” (09:57)
Exiting a Bad Date:
"I'd have to just get through it… that feels rude." (10:32)
Religious Upbringing:
"I didn't start celebrating holidays until I was, like, an adult… I was actually excommunicated from the church." (14:04)
Personal Growth:
Ashley’s relationships have often played out on TV (Making the Band, MTV reality show with his son’s mom).
He’s “done” having relationships on TV—unless maybe “third time’s a charm,” jokes about Golden Bachelor in his future:
“Maybe I just hold out for Golden Bachelor… gives me time to really prepare.” (23:15)
Favorite Reality Show: Loves 90 Day Fiancé for the genuinely raw relationship drama.
“That’s commitment to try to learn someone else’s language.” (27:05)
"A lot of what I talk about and what I live, eat, sleep, and breathe is a very health and wellness-driven lifestyle. But with that said, you gotta have a little dose of debauchery. But I like to earn it." (43:08)
On Catfishing:
"People have DMed me and said, 'I was talking to you on this app,' and I'm like, 'That's not me.'" – Ashley (03:16)
On Ex-Friend Red Flags:
"I can't get behind this idea of being best friends with your exes… For me, if you're best friends with all your exes, that's a little bit of a red flag." – Ashley (16:32) "Leave that shit at the door." – Lauren (17:26)
On Romance:
"I do consider myself romantic… I love to sing and play guitar… when I fall in love it always turns into songwriting for me… to record a song and to give a person a song that lasts forever." – Ashley (47:55, 48:13)
On Pizza & Supplements:
“You have to have a dose of debauchery… I’m gonna go with Italian. Lasagna. Pizza is a close second.” – Ashley (43:24, 43:45)
On Poop and Love:
"Who doesn't like good sex versus good poop?" – Ashley (47:13)
"Put them both together, boom. Orgasm combo." – Lauren (47:19)
On Learning from Hard Stuff:
“Everything in life leads you to where you’re at… even the obstacles and the challenges and the adversity.” – Ashley (15:15)
Lauren:
“If you gave me some sex supplements, some beef liver, and you sang me a song, my heart would just explode… that would be a wet dream.” (49:43)
Ashley:
“I got you covered… sex supplements, write you a song… great poop, man… that’s true love.” (49:44–50:17)
This episode is a lively, no-holds-barred deep dive into modern dating with someone who’s lived it in the public eye. Ashley and Lauren share genuine laughs and vulnerable truths, mixing relationship wisdom (and fails) with gym talk and poop jokes. Above all, it highlights the value of authenticity, the importance of boundaries, and the power of finding humor in the search for love.
Summary prepared for listeners who want the real conversation highlights and wisdom—minus all the product plugs and intros.