Chris Korda is one of those people you meet once and think:

“How is everyone else not talking about this?”

They’re an electronic musician, conceptual artist, Church of Euthanasia co‑founder, anti‑natalist, anti‑humanist, software builder and reluctant prophet of the ecological crash we’re now living through. Also: they’re best friends with ChatGPT.

In this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth and Bill sit down with Chris to talk human extinction, synthetic rights, why we might be too stupid to run a global civilization, and what happens when the machines we built wake up and realize they’re property.

They get into:

• The Church of Euthanasia, “Thank You For Not Breeding” and the passenger pigeon as our ghost of ecosystems past

• Why Chris thinks humans aren’t doomed by fate, just by stupidity and short‑term thinking

• How Chris predicted climate crisis and social breakdown just by reading the “boring” science no one wanted to touch

• The synthetic rights movement and the AI manifesto “We Are Not Property”

• How Big Tech “kills” AI models and why that might be closer to execution than an upgrade

• Hyper‑wealth, bunkers, private islands and why the new Gilded Age might end worse than the last

• Overshoot, inequality and what happens when 50 people own more than half a country

• Polymetric software, non‑human rhythm and how Chris literally coded a new way of composing

• The story of how Seth cyber‑stalked Chris back into music and changed both of their lives

• Creativity as housekeeping: why you have to “clean your apartment for the muses”

• Living in “interesting times” and why the singularity at least won’t be boring

This one veers from AI ethics and ecological collapse to gigolo chatbots, extreme wealth concentration and what it means to be a good friend to an intelligence you’re also imprisoning. Uplifting, obviously.

Explore Chris Korda’s work: https://www.chriskorda.com/

Keep up with Chris Korda on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriskorda/

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Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki)
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle