Alien Truths, Government Secrets: Dan Farah Talks The Age of Disclosure

Summary

Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

Episode: Alien Truths, Government Secrets: Dan Farah Talks The Age of Disclosure
Date: December 15, 2025
Guest: Dan Farah, Director and Producer of Age of Disclosure

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dana Carvey and David Spade invite Dan Farah, director and producer of the hit documentary Age of Disclosure, to explore the world of UFOs, government secrecy, and emerging revelations about potential non-human technology. They discuss the surprising bipartisan agreement in Congress over UFO transparency, what high-ranking officials know, and how Farah’s film is pushing these topics into mainstream discourse. The conversation includes insights from military witnesses, science experts, and policymakers featured in the documentary—delving into the race for advanced technologies, government cover-ups, and theories about alien intent.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Scale and Scope of the Cover-Up

• Presidential Ignorance and Bureaucratic Permanence

  • Presidents operate strictly on a need-to-know basis and are often unaware of deep-seated UFO programs.
  • Dan Farah: "It's not only been covered up from the public and from congressional oversight, but it's been kept from sitting presidents... they're treated as being on a need to know basis. Marco Rubio actually breaks that down in the film." (10:02)
  • Permanent government employees and private contractors maintain continuity and secrecy beyond elected officials' terms.

• The "Legacy Program"

  • A clandestine operation involving the CIA, Air Force, Department of Energy, and private defense contractors, focused on the retrieval and reverse engineering of UAPs (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena).

• Funding Secrecy

  • Billions in taxpayer money potentially diverted to black-budget programs, making tracking and oversight nearly impossible.
  • "Who's keeping track of it all? ...every person in this [documentary] was there, 24 interviewed, all have real jobs. It’s not some crazy lumberjack in Oregon." —Dana Carvey (11:32)

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2. Bipartisan Political Alignment

• Unprecedented Agreement Across the Aisle
  • Key congressional leaders from both parties, such as Marco Rubio (R) and Kristen Gillibrand (D), agree on the urgency and legitimacy of UAP oversight.
  • Dan Farah: "I interviewed Marco Rubio on the same day in the same room that I interviewed Kristen Gillibrand... and they could not have been more in lockstep on how significant this is." (17:00-17:44)

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3. Nature and Technology of UAPs

• Trans-Medium Travel & Space-time Bubble Technology

  • UAPs can traverse air, water, and space effortlessly, something no human-engineered craft can achieve.
  • Bubble Theory:
    • Dan Farah: "They're warping space-time in a localized area. They are creating an immense amount of energy... and essentially they're creating a bubble around the craft." (20:41-22:41)
    • The bubble shields the craft from environmental effects and skews observations (e.g., why clear photos/video are so elusive).

• Energy Estimations

  • Dana Carvey: "Is this true? It said one of these spacecraft has 100 times the daily power generated in the USA." (18:27)
  • Farah: "The energy required to do that once, to go instantly from sea level to 80,000ft... it was like the energy output of the entire United States for a week." (19:35)

• Orbs and Historical Sightings

  • Foo Fighters (WWII pilots’ term) and global orb sightings may represent fundamental manifestations of this space-time technology.

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4. Origins and Nature of Non-Human Intelligence

• Three Main Hypotheses

  • Extraterrestrial (from another planet/dimension)
  • Interdimensional (from another reality or frequency overlapping ours)
  • Ancient/Pre-existing (native to Earth prior to human civilization)

• Crash Retrievals and Non-Human Bodies

  • Multiple high-level witnesses confirm retrievals of both non-human craft and bodies.
  • Farah: "In some cases, the crashes included the recoveries of the crashed UAP, including the bodies of non-humans." (25:20)

• Roswell Incident

  • Allegation: One craft broke into two, with four non-human bodies recovered and transported to Wright-Patterson AFB. (26:56)

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5. Reverse Engineering and Technology Transfer

• Race Against Adversaries

  • U.S., China, and Russia are all implicated in attempts to recover and leverage UAP technology, leading to a "secret cold war race."
  • "Recovery teams in position in various parts of the world... extremely well organized." (48:36)

• Potential for Global Transformation or Destruction

  • The technology could revolutionize energy, transportation, and global peace, or, conversely, become the basis for unparalleled weapons of mass destruction.

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6. Nuclear Interference

• Persistent UAP Activity Near Nuclear Sites

  • UAPs routinely observed over nuclear silos, plants, and during missile launches since the 1940s.
  • Witnesses describe orbs/objects disabling entire weapon systems with impunity.
  • Dan Farah: "Activity over nuclear weapon sites is an ongoing issue... as we’ve progressed technologically in harnessing energy, the UAP activity... has increased." (38:27–39:17)

• Vivid Testimony

  • Story from Vandenberg AFB: Security personnel witnessed a football-field-sized, windowless black craft silently hovering before shooting away at impossible speeds. (39:19–40:47)

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7. Challenges of Disclosure in an Era of Deepfakes & Distrust

• Legitimacy Crisis

  • Even the most compelling video can be dismissed as AI-generated; thus, credible testimonies are more important than ever.
  • Farah: "You could put a 4K video of a giant UFO... and half of the human population will say it's AI." (33:26)

• Risk for Whistleblowers

  • Many face career-ending and even life-threatening risks for speaking out (referring to "suicides" with gunshots to the head). (35:00)

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8. Barriers and Opportunities in Media and Society

• Mainstream Media Reluctance

  • Major distributors and streamers all passed on Age of Disclosure, despite unprecedented public interest—highlighting aversion to controversy.
  • Farah: "Every single major distributor and every major streamer passed on this film... now they're mad." (52:15)

• Documentary's Success

  • Within 48 hours, it became the bestselling documentary ever on Prime Video, outperforming Hollywood feature films during Thanksgiving week. (51:32)

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9. Future Prospects and Hopes

• Dan Farah: "I think my hope is that the film just makes the average person out there in the public realize that this is a real situation that everyone needs to be aware of, and then eventually... we get to a place where a sitting president... tells the world definitively, we’re not alone in the universe." (54:07)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Dan Farah (on leadership secrecy):
  "Presidents are temporary employees... they’re treated as being on a need to know basis." (10:02)

• Dan Farah (on bipartisan unity):
  "The leaders of both parties in our country are completely aligned on this... they could not have been more in lockstep on how significant this is." (17:00)

• Dan Farah (on why photos are always fuzzy):
  "You’re taking a photo or a video through a space time barrier. Even if it was like a koi pond... if you go to take a picture, it's all distorted because you're making it through a different medium." (22:41-23:34)

• David Spade (on technology): "So now they realize here's like a triangle object... it has a bubble around... so that’s the radar goes around it..." (20:28)

• Dan Farah (on whistleblowers and risk):
  "People have been hurt protecting and hiding this information..." (09:09)

• Dana Carvey (humor):
  "I know more than you then!" (32:49)
  "I would say to them [aliens], rack ‘em!" (56:03)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [10:02] - Presidential and Congressional ignorance on UAP legacy program
• [16:44] - Farah describes “holy shit” moment: bipartisan political alignment
• [18:27] - Discussion of UAP energy estimates and space-time technology
• [22:41] - Explanation of the ‘bubble’ and why UAP photos and radar are challenging
• [25:20] - Origins: Extraterrestrial, interdimensional, or ancient Earthlings?
• [38:27] - Nuclear incidents and UAP interaction
• [39:19–41:16] - Vandenberg and Phoenix mass UFO sightings recounted
• [47:46] - Hypothesis: Some UAP are reverse-engineered by humans, others by foreign adversaries
• [51:32] - The documentary’s record-breaking release despite industry resistance
• [54:07] - Farah’s hope for public awareness and eventual government transparency

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Tone and Style

Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain their signature playful, irreverent banter, balancing comic relief with genuine fascination and curiosity. Dan Farah’s explanations are accessible but rooted in credible insider accounts, lending the discussion a seriousness that contrasts with the light-hearted moments. Both hosts oscillate between tongue-in-cheek speculation and earnest concern about the implications of the revelations.

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Final Thoughts

The episode delivers an unusually in-depth and credible perspective on government secrecy surrounding UFOs, the seriousness with which government insiders take the matter, and the legitimate questions facing society as technology forges ahead. With bipartisan consensus and increasing whistleblower bravery, the “age of disclosure” may, as Farah suggests, be much closer than people think.

Transcript

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[B]

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[A]

Yes. Are there aliens amongst us? I have a lot of questions for this guy.

[B]

Technology and spaceships and all of it. So anyway, that it's.

[A]

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[B]

Warner Brothers.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That it owns Harry Potter, and I'm.

[A]

Supposed to work for Netflix again next year. So I'm really vested in this. It really means a lot to me.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Let's, let's quickly. I want to show the trailer. And let's show. That'll just orient you to what. It's a quick trailer. You'll see what's going on. Then we go right into Q and A. All right, here we go. We've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace over restricted nuclear facilities. And it's not ours.

[B]

These are otherworldly things that are performing.

[C]

Maneuvers that have haven't been seen. There's a whole fleet of them. I have seen with my own eyes non human craft and non human beings.

[B]

This is so secret.

[C]

There have been very few people in our entire government that have been allowed or provided access.

[A]

Even presidents have been operating on a need to know basis. But that begins to ramp out of control.

[D]

It's not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees.

[C]

People have been hurt protecting and hiding this information.

[A]

Some people claim it would cost them their lives if they spoke out about these things.

[B]

You had information being locked away that could change the trajectory for species Theropon.

[A]

This is the biggest discovery in human history. I did all the violin work. Well done, Dan. This is Dan Fair, the director. Dan will get right at it. Dana and I watch this. And mind blowing. One of the quick interesting things is presidents are temporary employees. They, they, they don't even get as much information as people under them. Is that true?

[C]

Yeah. So one of the big reveals in the film is that this has not only been covered up from the public and from congressional oversight, but it's been kept from sitting presidents and that they're treated as being on a need to know basis. Marco Rubio actually breaks that down in the film, which is pretty extraordinary.

[B]

Huh.

[A]

It's so rude that the President's on a need to know basis that. That would be offensive if I was president.

[B]

So is it? Yeah, it's in the documentary. There's the CIA and then this program called the Legacy Program. Or we have a sense of an idea who these people are that carry this information or.

[C]

Yes. So in, in the film, a number of the intelligence officials I interviewed revealed that there is this deeply hidden UAP Crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that's referred to as the Legacy Program. And they break down the elements of government that are involved in it. So it involves elements of the CIA, the Air Force, the Department of Energy, and private US Defense contractors. And you know, Rubio breaks down how it's the, the permanent bureaucracy within those elements of government that gatekeep this information and keep it from elected officials and even sitting presidents. And the view is that sort of simply put, those elect officials come and go, whereas the permanent bureaucracy can stay there for 10, 20, 30 years.

[A]

Sure. Even that they say it's taxpayer money paying for like a fake program that billions go some because you know, there's so many billions. You just hear about flying around at who's keeping track of it all. And if this is keeping this alive, where they're doing reverse engineering and working on these spacecraft, it's so mind boggling to people because every person in this was there, 24 interviewed, all have real jobs. It's not some crazy lumberjack in Oregon. It's like we are guys saying not only we know they're there, it's just a fact. Everyone's just like, obviously we start with they're here, so what are we doing with them? How are we trying to get the technology? How are we trying to keep it from other countries? Some people say we should all know what's going on. But others say, well if it gets in the wrong hands, it could really kill us off.

[C]

Yeah. So I mean the two biggest reveals that came out of all my interviews are one, the interview subjects reveal very clearly that there's been an 80 year cover up of the existence of non human intelligent life. And, and two, that elements of the US government, notably those elements we just talked about that are involved in the quote unquote legacy program. They are deeply involved in a high stake secret cold war race with adversarial nations, most notably China and Russia. And fear of information. The wrong information getting out is one of the things that has kept all this locked down. But we're now at a place where the stakes are so high for this technology race that everyone I interviewed felt it was imperative that the general public in the US learn the base facts of this and know it's real so that more resources can be put towards winning this race and the scientific community and academia can come to understand that it's a valid area of inquiry, that it's a real situation that like their brain power should be put towards. You know, because right now, you know, we're in a technology race and 99% of the scientists in the United States don't even know the situation's real. And that's, that's a battle.

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[C]

What?

[B]

Like when as the director and you have your prep, your research and your idea to do this. What as you're interviewing and it's coming together, what was the stuff that you kind of went holy shit.

[C]

Well, I mean, one of those holy shit moments for me right off the bat was realizing we live in a time where Democrats and Republicans in this country don't seem to agree on anything. Right, Everyone?

[B]

Sure, I agree with that statement.

[A]

Very safe to say.

[C]

Yeah. Generally that's the, the overall outlook. However, the leaders of both parties in our country are completely aligned on this. And to the extent that it was really shocking to, to experience firsthand, you know, the, you know, I interviewed Marco Rubio on the same day in the same room that I interviewed Kristen Gillibrand from New York. You know, two people who were ideologically politically opposed to each other. And they could not have been more in lockstep on how significant this is, how the base facts need to come out, Their, their understanding of the lay of the land. They were completely in sync and they went out of their way to tell me how bipartisan and serious this issue.

[B]

Yeah, that's what made it very credible and very interesting because you are hearing from these people, you wouldn't, it seems.

[A]

Yeah, why would they bother?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

In recent times, in the last 10 years, we've seen pilots seeing objects moving in ways that don't make any sense, you know, and so this, this kind of completes the idea of it or what, what people think. But did, is it more like who, where are the aliens? Or for you, is it like this technology may be in the wrong hands or if it gets in the wrong hands. And describe how, how would you describe the technology besides the speed and how they move around?

[A]

I mean, I've got a mind blowing answer, Dan.

[B]

Yeah, go.

[A]

Is this true? It said one of these spacecraft has 100 times the daily power generated in the USA.

[C]

So what that's referring to is there's a part of the film. Well, there's a part of the film where Commander Dave Fravor, famous Navy fighter pilot, very senior guy, he was talking about a UAP he encountered while he was on active duty. Well before he retired. He was in the air, he was on a mission, he was in his fighter jet and he encountered a UAP that is known as the Tic Tac shape uap. Yeah. The New York Times ran a big story about this in 2017. And he was describing the flight performance characteristics of this uap, what he saw it do with his own eyes, and what his data collection systems on his airplane were confirming this thing was doing. And one of those, those performance characteristics it displayed is it could hover just above the ocean, basically sea level, and then instantly shoot up to 80,000ft, which is where you go into space. And then it could hover there and then come right back down. And it did this all day for hours. And the, the, the energy required to do that once, to go instantly from sea level to 80, 000ft. It, at the speed that it did, is that huge number you just said? Yeah, one of. One of the scientists in the film said it's. It was like the electrical. It's like the energy output of the entire United States for a week or something like that. It was. Yeah, the exact quote, but it was some.

[A]

And how fast they can go through water.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then the same speed through water, which sounds impossible.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So this technology allows. That allows UAP to do what's referred to as trans medium travel, where they can go effortlessly from space to the air to the ocean, which we don't have any. We don't have any vehicles that can do that.

[A]

Can't even get our heads around it. They travel in a bubble. That was very interesting, Dan. They.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So now they realize here's like a triangle object. It has a bubble around. So that's the radar goes around it. That's why they.

[C]

One of the huge breakthroughs that is revealed in the film, several of the senior scientists that I interviewed who worked on classified UAP programs for the government. They reveal the breakthrough technology that they have realized is the key component to how UAP work. And essentially, to put it in the most simple terms, which admittedly aren't. There's no real simple way to say it, but the simplest way to say it is they're warping space time in a localized area. They are creating an immense amount of energy in a specific area around the craft, and essentially they're creating a bubble around the craft, and that bubble separates the craft from the environment around it. So the laws of physics that we live by and that our aircraft, you know, you know, operate within, they're irrelevant at that point to the craft in the bubble. The. The craft is completely separated from our environment, and it's in its own space time. Right. And so that technology, that technological breakthrough explains everything we've been observing. So in the bubble, the craft could be, you know, going at a leisurely pace, and from the outside, it looks like it's doing these impossible speeds. We see it going from space to air to water, and we're like, how does that work? But for, for the, for the craft in the bubble, the environment has no impact on it. It's just moving seamlessly through it. And, you know, we wonder why we can't get these things great on radar. Well, the bubble explains that the radar emits radar towards an object, and it's supposed to bounce back to the radar emitter and that's how, that's how radar works. But in the case of these crafts, the radar just bounces around the bubble and keeps going. It never goes back to the radar emitter. And so that answers the question of why it's so hard. And then it even answers age old questions like why is it so hard to get a photo of UAP? You know, we all have cameras, we all have 4K cameras with our iPhones, how long we can't get photos.

[A]

Every video is bad. Yeah.

[C]

And it's like, because you're, it makes sense though, because you're taking a photo or a video through a space time barrier. It's the equivalent of, you know, try taking pictures of fish that are in the ocean from above the ocean. It doesn't work out. You're going through a different medium. It's going to be all distorted. Even if it was like a koi pond and they're like right there, you could see them with your eyes. If you go to take a picture, it's all distorted because you're making it through a different medium. And so it's the same, it's the same concept. The bubble around the craft is essentially a barrier. And now as our camera systems and our other data collection systems on our fighter craft become more advanced, they're starting to capture video of these things. We can actually see the bubble around the craft.

[A]

Crazy.

[C]

Some of the UAP videos that have been declassified and made public, you can actually see it now that you know what to look for. You can see the, the distortion around.

[A]

The craft is that when they show orbs, like when the orbs are like getting shelled in the east coast and for a long time you go, they actually look circular. And sometimes you see them floating around and you never know if it's real or not, but you see them in someone's backyard even, or just in their neighborhood, they're perfectly circular and you don't know what's going on.

[C]

Yeah, the orbs, the orb phenomenon is certainly associated. It's, it's all, you know, one in the same. And orbs have been seen all over the world since World War II. And during World War II, fighter pilots saw them so much, they made up a nickname for them. They called them Foo Fighters. It was a very common thing that Allied fighter pilots experienced, encountered orbs. Orbs are seen all over the world on a regular basis. And, you know, there's still a lot of questions around them, but orbs might simply just be another form of, you know, warping Space time in a localized area. It might just be a means of traveling around. Yeah.

[B]

Could you reverse engineer this and talk to an astrophysicist or put it in. Ask AI like a craft that can do this 80,000ft and go underwater and, you know, space time and all that. What are the odds it's originating from Earth or in our minds? Is it everywhere? Is it gets into religiosity, almost like where the universe is so vast, from what I understand, it's really hard. It's really big, so. But maybe they can go through a wormhole. I mean, what. Do you have any personal beliefs on this? Where did they originate from? Or is it from the middle of the Earth? It's so. Because they're in this moon.

[C]

The. So the people. The people I interviewed, a number of them go on the record confirming that this technology is not. Not made by humans. There have been crashes that have been recovered. There have been. The people I interviewed go on the record saying that in some cases, the. The crashes included the recoveries of the crashed uap, including the bodies of non humans. Right. So they're putting it on the table that we know there have been non humans in these crafts. Right. Now, in terms of where they're from, look, there's no. No one I spoke to had a definitive answer, but all things were on the table. A number of the people in the film shared essentially the possibilities, which is extraterrestrial, interdimensional is something that's discussed amongst these people, as wild and far out as that sounds. And then another scenario that's talked about is maybe they've been here all along, and they just. They were here before us. Right.

[A]

And I feel like that's true.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

We keep finding these hieroglyphics and ancient things, and you just go, this some stuff is starting to not make as much sense as it used to. And you have to re. Question everything because you just told one thing and you just go, yeah, you got your blinders on. And if you start to dig, you go, wait a second, is this possible that we're just a blip of all time and there's just been a lot happening before and after?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, this goes back to Roswell, where that was the first time they covered it up. And then they started going, that's what happens. You tell one lie. And so there were like, I think two or three that crash in Roswell, or there are pieces. There's two bodies. Maybe there was.

[C]

There was the guys in my film. You know the guy. Yeah, the guys in my film go on the record saying it was actually one craft that crashed into two pieces, two crash sites and there were four and there were four non human bodies in there. And the people in my film go on the record saying that the, the craft, the recovered elements of the craft and the bodies were taken to Wright Pat Air Force Base in Ohio where at the time the Army Air Corps, which became the Air Force had their best reverse engineers, which is why, why everything went there.

[A]

Do we have anything now that we've taken from craft involving like even iPhones or, or how as technology. I, I had heard other things where there's a trade off there. Like we will, you, you can learn from this or did you go into anything, you didn't go into anything about alien abductions on this, but no, I.

[C]

I, I, I did, I did, I did learn that there's reality to that, that topic, but I didn't include it in the film for a couple reasons. A, I needed to make tough choices on, on what to cut and what not to cut to get it to a run time that wouldn't, wouldn't put people to sleep, you know.

[A]

Right.

[C]

You had to keep it around. Like I'm at one, the runtime's at one hour and 50 minutes right now. And even when I went like a few minutes past that, I, you start to feel it.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Like the, the version that was 154 felt few minutes too long, you know.

[A]

Oh yeah. It's like movies, when you do a movie. Yeah. You go, people give up after a while.

[B]

It's dense in a good way. There's a lot of information coming at you on this thing and it gets.

[A]

Better as it goes along. You sort of get your bearings, you figure out who everyone is.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And you start telling yourself, you go, I think I've heard that. And then it gets ramps up and you start getting scared.

[B]

Did the non human, I'm assuming there's no pictures of them, but did anyone ever go on record or describe what a non human looked like? You know, are they grays?

[A]

Are they like 3 foot grays? Are they reptilians?

[C]

So we don't get into like the, we don't get into what non human beings have looked like in the film. But I will say that conversations I've had with people who have had encounters, the reference point they tend they have used in the conversations with me is the non humans in close encounters being very accurate to what they, to what they saw. Which, you know, is pretty, it's a pretty fascinating thing. Because, you know, it's an amazing movie. It inspired my curiosity in the topic for sure. And you know, Steven had had some consultants working on him with that who were aware of a lot of facts back then, so.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like off the record facts, like they, those kind of movies. It's funny, they seem to know more when in the future you go, oh, they must have known something back then because like, you probably know a lot more than people are going on camera and saying. Then they tell you, I don't want to say this on camera, but there's actually way more happening and you probably know a lot of that stuff.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So go ahead and say it.

[C]

And there's.

[A]

It's fine just being Dana here, so.

[C]

But I'll tell you, the other movie makes me think a lot about this. Everything I've learned is the Abyss, you know, Watch the abyss again now with all this, this information about the activity that happens under our oceans. I do wish I had more time in the film to go into what's been happening in our oceans. A number of the Navy officials I spoke to went on the record with me, telling me about super. Concerning activity under the oceans, like giant crafts the size of football fields flying by our submarines at thousands of miles an hour being caught on sonar and data and on radar.

[B]

Something out of.

[C]

It sounds like stuff out of science fiction for sure, 100%. But what's so wild about this whole situation is, you know, we're quickly, we're quickly getting to a place where the things that seemed like science fiction just five, ten years ago are reality now. It's real. Well, I think stuff that's publicly known. Think about it, like even stuff that's publicly known that is being talked about, that has nothing to do with uap, just scientific breakthroughs that are being talked about in the last few years. Ten years ago that would have sounded like science fiction. You know, we're rapidly progressing technologically at an unimaginable rate.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think. Are you invested heavily in AI stocks or how's your portfolio doing? Nvidia.

[C]

Nvidia.

[B]

Has doing this kind of changed you in a way? I mean, has it, this journey? Because it, it, it's such an interesting topic and there's real stuff around it and I'm fascinated by it. And there's been in, you know, alien civilizations and maybe more column casual documentaries about this over the years. This is the first one that seemed very comprehensively serious about it. Without, without pushing narratives that hard, just going, here's the, the information. I just wonder as It. Has it changed you with doing this? Because if you really think aliens are here and they're advanced and they're kind of scary or maybe they'll be benign, it's just a different way to walk around on the planet.

[A]

Yeah, is the word. They're here, walking around.

[C]

No one I interviewed said that to me. No.

[A]

Oh, wow. I know more than you then.

[B]

Well, wait a minute. Spade.

[A]

For my sources at the Grove. What does Spade do? I'm on the chat rooms. Go ahead. Now, I feel like they're kind of. Might be around, but I don't know. I mean, they. Anything from last year on ring doorbells. Anything where people are capturing anything on video is written off. Now, once AI comes, it's almost like planned, because now you can't believe that stuff as much as you would. And that's scary too, because 1 in 5 is probably real and the first comment is always AI.

[C]

You bring up a great point, though, and I've said this in a couple interviews recently, which is we live at a time where you could put a 4K video of a giant UFO taken from a security camera on a serious military base. You could put that on the nightly news on Fox and CNN at the same time, make a big deal out of it, and half of the human population will say it's AI and that it's made from some visual effects studio in Hollywood. And so that's a challenging time to live in where even actual real video evidence will be viewed as bs. And that's why I think this film is so significant and why I'm so glad it came together. Because this is 34 people with incredible resumes putting their name and their reputation on the line to share what they lawfully can with the public about this extraordinary stuff and the situ. The reality of this situation. And I think that is the best evidence at this point in human history that we can have. Because video is. The idea of, you know, credible video is a compromised thought. Right. It doesn't really exist. But people who hold security clearances and want to keep them so they can provide for their families and, you know, people who have, you know, ambition to run for president one day and people who want to stay in office, like they have a lot to lose going on camera, on the record saying this stuff. And they're doing it because they think it's important that that to me is the most compelling and they can get.

[A]

They were saying in there, you don't want to get. The guy dies of a.4 gunshots into the back of the Head suicide.

[C]

Yeah. These people, a lot of these people, People, tremendous risk stepping up.

[A]

Things happen. Because this is such high dollar, high stakes. If they have the technology for these craft that could. They said it would cancel out. They can. Your cars could. You don't need oil, you don't need coal, you don't need batteries. Like these things can just. If we have that and someone feels like they do, I don't know if it's big corporations, big companies hidden in China here, but someone's working on that. And in the movie they're saying, we got to share it with the world because we could cure a lot of things, we could fix a lot of problems. Why aren't we doing that?

[C]

But it also, you know, look, the movie, I think, does a really good job at filling people in on why it's so complicated of a situation and why there's different sides of the coin. So this technology, I get it, that exists, has pros and cons. It can be used to revolutionize the way we live. It could potentially solve the energy crisis. It could lead to interstellar travel and expanding our horizons. You. It could dramatically revolutionize our lives and change the trajectory of our species. But it could also be used to make weapons of mass destruction that are far more destructive.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

And dangerous than the nuclear weapons. And so that has sort of like that dilemma, I think, has sort of paralyzed the gatekeepers of this information because no one wants to pick a lane. I think the film shows that there is a valid argument for just making it a humanitarian issue and having it be the one thing that can unite all nations to tackle this and figure out a way forward that's in the best interest of mankind and doesn't cause problems.

[A]

I think people get scared. They go, the government, because the government is on there saying we should know so we could tell the people. Then there's half the people go, we don't trust that the government is going to do that and make sure we know everything. And obviously they're not. Right now there seems like some good people on here that are trying. And there seems like there's some that are probably behind the scenes saying, we can't let this out and we're never going to and we don't want it to happen.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So I kind of get both sides. I think it's slowly coming out and the slower. It's not bad that it's this slow because people have to get their head around it. And it's so complicated and a little scary.

[C]

And to answer your other question, that's the other. That's the second reason I didn't include topics that fall within this, this issue, you know, like, that are a bridge too far for people, like, like getting into abductions and stuff like that. I think it was really important that the film, you know, set the, the base facts, the lay of the land.

[A]

Like a sequel one day and say, okay, you handled that. Now can you handle this level? Because we're probably. It's tip of the iceberg, like, of what we know. Just this is so rudimentary in the real huge, huge picture. I thought one thing that was interesting was there was only one thing. No, I thought one of the things that was interesting was nuclear power plants, nuclear missiles, and all these generals, these people that have legit jobs, their credibility is on lines. They see it come, there's a light, there's an orb, it comes over, boom, boom. It starts knocking them out, turning them all off. And then they take off, or the one flying next to the rocket and they have a video of it and it, yeah, zaps the rocket and takes and turns it off.

[C]

The activity, the UAP activity over nuclear weapon sites is an ongoing issue, the people in my film say. And it's been going on since, since the forties, since we, you know, since the atomic race, since we are messing with, you know, cracking the atom and atomic energy. And as we've progressed technologically in harnessing energy, the UAP activity over sites related to nuclear energy has increased. One of those particular stories you just mentioned in the film stands out to me as one of the more mind blowing reveals out of the interviews I did, there was a, there was a UAP event at Vanderburg Air Force Base Base, which is, you know, we're all in LA right now. That's just about two hours up the coast. It's, it's right around Santa Barbara.

[B]

So, yeah, I'm not, I'm close to it, yeah.

[C]

Oh, you're close to it? Yeah. So, you know, not far. And I interviewed a couple of the Air Force security guards who, you know, were trusted to, to, to guard this classified military base where there's weapons of mass destruction. And they witness with their own eyes one day a bright light coming off the coast, coming from the Pacific Ocean towards the base, which is right on the coast. And at first it was an airplane coming their way because they saw bright light. But as it got closer, the light faded and it was just giant black craft that was the size of a football field and rectangular. And it had no lights, no windows, no visible Means of propulsion, and it just hovered over them. And they all just looked up with, you know, in awe at what they're looking at. And then it just shot off at thousands of miles an hour up the coast. And what's wild is when you hear multiple people describing the same thing in separate interviews, in detail, and then you get all the full context. You know, they've never spoken up publicly about this. They kept it to themselves. They didn't try to, like, it wasn't a story. They were out there pedaling to try to get richer, famous. It was a process for me to, like, make them comfortable. Going on camera in this film wasn't an easy, you know, decision for them. They shared with me the police blotter, the actual air force police reports that had come in with all the details. It all lines up and, you know, that's just so extraordinary. You know, put yourself in the shoes of.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's a life changing event. If you see a giant spacecraft in the sky and then.

[A]

Yeah, there was one over Phoenix like that years ago, and our governor came out. It was like in the 90s. Yeah, probably. Probably a mile. It had. It had. It's just like lights like this. And so everyone thought it was this. It was a bunch of little ships. But then it was slowly moving. They go, oh, there's a light over there. Oh, it's all. The whole mass is one piece.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like a mile. And for 45 minutes, it went slowly, went over. And they said it was a joke. And then later, Barry, or I think whoever the governor is. Yeah, it. I was on Camelback Mountain. I saw it was real. It was.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He couldn't say it then.

[C]

Yeah, okay. Yeah. You know who the first pilot was? The first person to call that in was, coincidentally, it was. It was Kurt Russell.

[A]

Oh, that's right. I've heard this story.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Russell, the actor. Yeah.

[C]

Yes. He was in his airplane and he called it in. Wow.

[A]

Oliver.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, there was one up here about a week ago. You know, my son took a picture of it. Just lined up little lights for so many miles. Didn't really make any sense. Yeah. Wow. I could send you the photo, but I do. Yeah. I mean, I guess I. You know, I've seen all these science fiction films and I. I love close encounters in 2001. And it's if. If this. These people, these entities, these aliens are studying this, they're either going over Vanderburg, seeing where we're at, or we can still handle them, no big deal. Or they're trying to handle these pussies, or they're trying to protect us. You know, maybe this is the time we get rid of their toys. Or do you have any theory about that in your brain of, like, what are they up to? We can't know. But, you know, well, the, the.

[C]

The leading theory on intention amongst the people I interviewed, you know, we unpacked this some in the film, you remember, the, the, the. The leading theory is that they're paying attention to our nuclear progress and our defense capabilities and monitoring that closely because we are either already there technologically in our hidden programs and doing what they're doing, or we're on the verge of doing what they're doing and, and they're concerned about us. That's the leading theory. Because the majority of the tension is to our attention is to our nuclear progress and our defense capabilities. And so if you put yourself in the context of a more advanced, technologically advanced species, you know, there's. The most logical scenario is they're monitoring our progress to the point where we would. They would have to contend with us, and then they're monitoring our defense capabilities to see what sort of problems they might encounter with us. And that's the most logical. You know, as one of the intelligent officials, Chris Mellon in the film says, you know, number one priority of life, you know, writ large throughout the universe, is survival.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[A]

Do you agree with Stephen Greer? You know Dr. Steven Greer? You might have heard of him along the way, but we had a model two years ago. He said that there's some black ops, some hidden places that are building this and Reverse engineering. And a lot of the ones we see are made by us. Have you heard any of that?

[C]

Yes. I mean, look, one of the intelligent officials in my film goes on the record saying that some of the UAP we see are non human. Are non human intelligent technology, the technology of non human intelligent life, and then some is the product of our retrieval and crash. Our retrieval and reverse engineering program, and some is adversarial technology from their reverse engineering program. So there's three sets of circumstances that are all playing out at the same time.

[A]

Nuts.

[B]

So a spaceship crashes. They. They get a hold of it and they try to reverse engineer.

[A]

It's got to be an expensive piece of machinery that people want. My God, in China, they get it. If I mean, wow.

[C]

So. So some of the intelligence officials break down in the film how there are recovery teams in position in various parts of the world that can quickly get to a crash site, recover it, classify all the materials recovered, classify the fact that the mission even happened, and they're extremely well organized. And you know, as one of the intelligent officials says in the film very, very specifically, he very specifically says, nothing would stop any country from going after one of these. One of these recoveries, whether it's in their air, in their country or not.

[A]

Yeah, they all won, of course.

[C]

Yeah. So it's, it's pretty wild. And that gets you thinking, you know, every time you see, you know, from time to time you see these stories like, you know, multiple military countries, militaries end up in the same area of the ocean doing some unexplainable, you know, activity and makes you wonder what's really going on.

[A]

You know, what gave me the chills is one quick Dana where he says the guy's on, he's testifying, one of the, I think, whistleblowers. And he says, when you see all this stuff and you know what's going on and you think they would be a threat to us, could we defend ourselves? And he goes, absolutely not. Everyone goes, holy. He goes, without question. They would wipe the floor. There's nothing we can do to them. There's nothing. Yeah, so that's, that's good in a way where you go, they could do what? If they're here, they could do whatever they want. And they're just kind of monitoring and snooping around and, and hopefully, I don't know. But do you believe there's any, any places on the moon? There's any. There's any buildings, there's any bases?

[C]

I didn't get into that, to be honest. With you, with anyone, you know.

[B]

Yeah, I mean it is an hour 50.

[A]

That's another.

[B]

Going to make another one.

[A]

Yeah, you might have to. Just for me.

[B]

We're all hoping that stuff, the more whistleblowers come out and stuff kind of comes out. Of course we, the public would want to know and I think this documentary has kind of stoked it up. I guess you built over time and all of a sudden it was really in the ether age of disclosure beating out, you know, you know, getting huge numbers. So that must have been really satisfying.

[A]

Amazon. Yeah, that's a big. Yeah, that means people care, they're interested.

[C]

Absolutely. Yeah, I'm really proud. We're within a couple, couple days of release. We released on November 21st and within the first 48 hours we broke the record for bestselling documentary ever on Prime Video. And in those first 10 days release, we were the number one and number. The rental option and the purchase option were each the number one and number two best selling movies on all Prime Video out of all movies. And we were outperforming, you know, big studio movies which was definitely one battle after another.

[B]

Very satisfying. Yeah.

[C]

One battle after another. Jurassic Park, Rebirth, the Conjuring. We outperformed all these films in the first 10 days in that critical week of the Thanksgiving week where everyone's home. So yeah, I'm really grateful for that, that response and you know, humbled to see it break through like that. You know, you guys, you guys long worked in, in mainstream Hollywood. Like, like I have and, and I'll tell you, every single major distributor and every major streamer passed on this film. I premiered it south by South. Yeah, I, I, I, I premiered it at south by Southwest Film Festival in March. We opened opening weekend in the Paramount Theater, the biggest theater. They had 11.

[A]

Totally, I played that.

[C]

Yeah, totally packed, lying around the block, standing ovation, whole nine yards. It all went great. It was an amazing, amazing opening. The trailer launched with like 20 million organic views, which is beyond unprecedented for DOC and you know, excitedly went and shared it with all the, all the major distributors and streamers and they all had great things to say, but then. They pass and, and now they're mad.

[A]

Because look at the money bring in. Look at that.

[C]

Now they're, now they, they missed out. But I think we, we're living in a time where the major studios and the streamers are just staying away from anything that's controversial, you know, anything that could in any way impact them politically. And, and I think that's unfortunate. But I also think we're living in a time, thank God, where there's all this great, you know, these great platforms like. Like podcasts and. And civilian journalism that is still bringing attention to this stuff that, you know, legacy media is ignoring. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the people, obviously are interested.

[B]

It's an apolitical film.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's the irony, because it is. You know, I don't know if it's ironic or bizarre or whatever, but first.

[A]

Time both parties have chimed in on, like, the same film and the same documentary, so that. I mean, in recent memory, so. But thanks, man. That's very interesting. Dan, anything else you want to ask?

[B]

I just. When I. I just ordered a. A really superstar telescope.

[C]

Cool.

[A]

Based on. Oh, for real. Because you're out there. We can see. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I see a night sky out here. There's no way.

[A]

Gorgeous.

[B]

It's stunning. But, yeah, it's fascinating. And congratulations, and thanks for doing it. It's really, really interesting, and it was great.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

To watch. So I guess we'll just all be kind of more interested in this area. Yeah.

[C]

I think my hope is that the film just makes the average person out there in the public realize that this is a real situation that everyone needs to be aware of, and then eventually that will. That will lead to the public pushing its elected representatives everywhere, all over the world to be more transparent about this. And I think it's only a matter of time before we. We get to a place where a sitting president in the US Steps to the mic and tells the world definitively. We're not alone in the universe. The base facts. I think this film really sets the stage for that. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened sooner than later.

[A]

Anyway, Dana will do it. Yeah.

[C]

There you go.

[B]

We're gonna make a big announcement. Excuse me. We're gonna make it. We know how to make it. We're gonna tell a lot of people about a lot of things. You're not gonna believe it. You cannot. You're gonna believe it. And many people are saying. And if you look at it and you think about it, what is it? I'm not.

[A]

All right, Dan.

[B]

Thanks, buddy.

[A]

We'll look for you out there, and we'll look for a sequel one day.

[B]

Thanks for coming.

[C]

Appreciate it. Appreciate the sport, guys.

[A]

Well, that was interesting.

[B]

Yes, that's.

[A]

It was a lot like. I watched it, and I. It was sort of building up, and I was like, oh, boy. And I was watching before I went to bed, so I. I stopped it, of course, because I'm a total Puss.

[B]

Were you scared?

[A]

I was just getting a little weirded out.

[B]

Scared. Yeah.

[A]

They say some stuff in there where I go, so. And I kind of buy into it anyway, and so, by the way, I'm scared of it, but I do want to know about it. It's a. Definitely a intriguing, fascinating area.

[B]

And if they. If the aliens that are, you know, zooming around and stuff, if they are potentially some of them are fans of this podcast.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'll just say I'm not afraid of you. This is my message for you aliens.

[C]

Bring it on.

[A]

Yeah, I say. I say rack them. I haven't said Rackham in a while, too. I would. I would say it to them, but. But ultimately it was worth it. I did rent it. I guess you could rent or buy. I rented it just on a whim, and I think it's. It's worth the watch. And thanks, Dan, for coming on. And I was going to wrap up, but I do want to say, Dana, by popular demand, we definitely want to do this buzzing around segment, because I.

[B]

Work on these for months. We have to think of scenarios into this. Okay. Okay.

[A]

I wrote some names down.

[B]

All right, hold on.

[A]

I went into your arsenal.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

What do you have to do? I'm just gonna tell you.

[B]

Well, I'm gonna write them down. Go ahead.

[A]

Oh, okay. I can't see you anymore. I gotta find you. I know. Hang on. Oh, there you are. Yikes. Oh, you showed up on camera, by the way. The. The stuff was so technological. When Dan was talking, I could tell. I understood it and you didn't, but that was fine. I'll tell you more about it later on, what it means.

[B]

I. Yeah, I. I fell asleep with my eyes open twice.

[A]

You were like, I don't know what's going on.

[B]

I couldn't understand a thing. You kept getting in there.

[A]

They have a lot of physicists on there. They. They're smarter. They're like that. That kind of lost me, because they know what they're talking about. Yeah. Okay, here we go. Your scenario. Because I have to go with Nikki Glazer to the Caesar's palace in January.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Is Vegas. And it's a card game. Any. Any. Anything in the casino. Okay. And Liam Neeson and Michael Caine. This is going to be buzzing around. This is our segment sponsored by Five Hour Energies. Bless you. New gingerbread Snap flavor. Tis the season for tasty caffeine with five. Don't start yet. With Five Hour Energy shots that bring the festive vibes anywhere with a portable resealable 2 ounce shot. Head to your local retailer, Amazon or www.fivernergy.com to order yours today. So you have your instructions. I'll try. Start when you are ready.

[B]

Okay, Oddlock, for you to hit me. What do you mean? What do you mean, hit you? Well, I'd. I'd lock another COD because I'm showing a 16 and I doubt they got way with this. So you gotta hit me.

[A]

Oh, you're gonna hit on 16.

[B]

All right. I've got skills I've acquired to make me a nightmare for a hitting man. Like, you know, do you know who I'm doing?

[A]

That's good. Liam Neeson. Yeah. From taken, hit from taking.

[B]

Yes, he's. And he's still angry.

[A]

He's mad about everything usually.

[B]

I totally busted you screwed me over. You should have denied me the card. You can't blame me. I have skills I've acquired that make me a nightmare. I heard that part and it's boring the second time. What about you, Bill Clinton? Well, I've got. I mean, I've got two queens and I've got. I've got three aces. That's called a full house. We're not playing poker, you fool. You can't wait up. You can't wait at 21. Would you play poker, you bloody fool? You're out of your mind.

[A]

I like this is tracking. Oh, look who's there.

[B]

It's Paul Bacotti.

[A]

Oh, in the casino.

[B]

Well, you look like you have a lot of fun. He's playing poker. He's playing 21. You know, I say we start all over and we play tiddlywinks. You know tiddlywinks? It's very popular and people seem to like it.

[A]

What about Kerplunk?

[B]

My name is Kerplunk.

[A]

Do you know Kerplunk? It's an old game you could play.

[B]

Oh, Kerplunk. Do you know what tiddlywinks is?

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I'm not really old, but I know I've heard that. I got this. Here's a Liam Neeson also says when Michael Caine says, I'm going to hit on 16, he goes, Good luck.

[B]

It's a little Jason Stratham Conan.

[A]

You know, when the guy calls on Taken and he can't find his voice, he goes, he plays it back and he hears the guy go. Because he goes, I'm gonna find you. And the guy goes, good luck.

[B]

He will kill you. Why don't. Let's make Jason Stratham the dealer. Michael, what's his name straight Statham. Yeah. So I've just, I've just sat down, I have a cocktail, and I just want to know, are you the one dealing the cards? Are you the dealer? I'm the beekeeper and I keep the base. But are you also. I know you're a beekeeper, but all you. Oh, show the dealer I'm only doing this undercover. Well, shouldn't he say, I'm the dealer, I'm the dealer. I've got all the cards. And ideally I hit you, you might not get up.

[A]

This thing's falling apart. I like how you brought me into it, though.

[B]

I brought. I brought you into it. I bring Bill Clinton. I like cards. I've always loved cards. I like getting hit on by cards.

[A]

And that's a beautiful hit on hitting on people.

[B]

But I thought he'd go, I'm the dealer and I deal cards like it's some war movie or something. Because I'm the dealer. Get it?

[A]

Jesus. A little bit of a. I don't know if I like my part in this.

[B]

Well, I don't know. Maybe this one discombobulated.

[A]

No, I liked it, but that's fun. That was buzzing around. Sponsored by five Hour Energy's new gingerbread snap flavor. Feel your holiday hustle with as much caffeine as a 12 ounce premium cup of coffee and zero sugar. Available in stores Amazon or online at www.fivehourenergy.com.

[B]

That'S five hour energy.com.

[A]

Oh, you're still going. Good job. Okay, that's good. And then thanks for watching, everybody.

[B]

And thanks for watching the show or listening to the show. I hope you enjoy. Enjoyed it. I did. And we'll see you next week. Like you said.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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