Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

Episode: Alien Truths, Government Secrets: Dan Farah Talks The Age of Disclosure
Date: December 15, 2025
Guest: Dan Farah, Director and Producer of Age of Disclosure

Episode Overview

In this episode, Dana Carvey and David Spade invite Dan Farah, director and producer of the hit documentary Age of Disclosure, to explore the world of UFOs, government secrecy, and emerging revelations about potential non-human technology. They discuss the surprising bipartisan agreement in Congress over UFO transparency, what high-ranking officials know, and how Farah’s film is pushing these topics into mainstream discourse. The conversation includes insights from military witnesses, science experts, and policymakers featured in the documentary—delving into the race for advanced technologies, government cover-ups, and theories about alien intent.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Scale and Scope of the Cover-Up

• Presidential Ignorance and Bureaucratic Permanence

  • Presidents operate strictly on a need-to-know basis and are often unaware of deep-seated UFO programs.
  • Dan Farah: "It's not only been covered up from the public and from congressional oversight, but it's been kept from sitting presidents... they're treated as being on a need to know basis. Marco Rubio actually breaks that down in the film." (10:02)
  • Permanent government employees and private contractors maintain continuity and secrecy beyond elected officials' terms.

• The "Legacy Program"

  • A clandestine operation involving the CIA, Air Force, Department of Energy, and private defense contractors, focused on the retrieval and reverse engineering of UAPs (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena).

• Funding Secrecy

  • Billions in taxpayer money potentially diverted to black-budget programs, making tracking and oversight nearly impossible.
  • "Who's keeping track of it all? ...every person in this [documentary] was there, 24 interviewed, all have real jobs. It’s not some crazy lumberjack in Oregon." —Dana Carvey (11:32)

2. Bipartisan Political Alignment

• Unprecedented Agreement Across the Aisle
  • Key congressional leaders from both parties, such as Marco Rubio (R) and Kristen Gillibrand (D), agree on the urgency and legitimacy of UAP oversight.
  • Dan Farah: "I interviewed Marco Rubio on the same day in the same room that I interviewed Kristen Gillibrand... and they could not have been more in lockstep on how significant this is." (17:00-17:44)

3. Nature and Technology of UAPs

• Trans-Medium Travel & Space-time Bubble Technology

  • UAPs can traverse air, water, and space effortlessly, something no human-engineered craft can achieve.
  • Bubble Theory:
    • Dan Farah: "They're warping space-time in a localized area. They are creating an immense amount of energy... and essentially they're creating a bubble around the craft." (20:41-22:41)
    • The bubble shields the craft from environmental effects and skews observations (e.g., why clear photos/video are so elusive).

• Energy Estimations

  • Dana Carvey: "Is this true? It said one of these spacecraft has 100 times the daily power generated in the USA." (18:27)
  • Farah: "The energy required to do that once, to go instantly from sea level to 80,000ft... it was like the energy output of the entire United States for a week." (19:35)

• Orbs and Historical Sightings

  • Foo Fighters (WWII pilots’ term) and global orb sightings may represent fundamental manifestations of this space-time technology.

4. Origins and Nature of Non-Human Intelligence

• Three Main Hypotheses

  • Extraterrestrial (from another planet/dimension)
  • Interdimensional (from another reality or frequency overlapping ours)
  • Ancient/Pre-existing (native to Earth prior to human civilization)

• Crash Retrievals and Non-Human Bodies

  • Multiple high-level witnesses confirm retrievals of both non-human craft and bodies.
  • Farah: "In some cases, the crashes included the recoveries of the crashed UAP, including the bodies of non-humans." (25:20)

• Roswell Incident

  • Allegation: One craft broke into two, with four non-human bodies recovered and transported to Wright-Patterson AFB. (26:56)

5. Reverse Engineering and Technology Transfer

• Race Against Adversaries

  • U.S., China, and Russia are all implicated in attempts to recover and leverage UAP technology, leading to a "secret cold war race."
  • "Recovery teams in position in various parts of the world... extremely well organized." (48:36)

• Potential for Global Transformation or Destruction

  • The technology could revolutionize energy, transportation, and global peace, or, conversely, become the basis for unparalleled weapons of mass destruction.

6. Nuclear Interference

• Persistent UAP Activity Near Nuclear Sites

  • UAPs routinely observed over nuclear silos, plants, and during missile launches since the 1940s.
  • Witnesses describe orbs/objects disabling entire weapon systems with impunity.
  • Dan Farah: "Activity over nuclear weapon sites is an ongoing issue... as we’ve progressed technologically in harnessing energy, the UAP activity... has increased." (38:27–39:17)

• Vivid Testimony

  • Story from Vandenberg AFB: Security personnel witnessed a football-field-sized, windowless black craft silently hovering before shooting away at impossible speeds. (39:19–40:47)

7. Challenges of Disclosure in an Era of Deepfakes & Distrust

• Legitimacy Crisis

  • Even the most compelling video can be dismissed as AI-generated; thus, credible testimonies are more important than ever.
  • Farah: "You could put a 4K video of a giant UFO... and half of the human population will say it's AI." (33:26)

• Risk for Whistleblowers

  • Many face career-ending and even life-threatening risks for speaking out (referring to "suicides" with gunshots to the head). (35:00)

8. Barriers and Opportunities in Media and Society

• Mainstream Media Reluctance

  • Major distributors and streamers all passed on Age of Disclosure, despite unprecedented public interest—highlighting aversion to controversy.
  • Farah: "Every single major distributor and every major streamer passed on this film... now they're mad." (52:15)

• Documentary's Success

  • Within 48 hours, it became the bestselling documentary ever on Prime Video, outperforming Hollywood feature films during Thanksgiving week. (51:32)

9. Future Prospects and Hopes

• Dan Farah: "I think my hope is that the film just makes the average person out there in the public realize that this is a real situation that everyone needs to be aware of, and then eventually... we get to a place where a sitting president... tells the world definitively, we’re not alone in the universe." (54:07)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• Dan Farah (on leadership secrecy):
  "Presidents are temporary employees... they’re treated as being on a need to know basis." (10:02)

• Dan Farah (on bipartisan unity):
  "The leaders of both parties in our country are completely aligned on this... they could not have been more in lockstep on how significant this is." (17:00)

• Dan Farah (on why photos are always fuzzy):
  "You’re taking a photo or a video through a space time barrier. Even if it was like a koi pond... if you go to take a picture, it's all distorted because you're making it through a different medium." (22:41-23:34)

• David Spade (on technology): "So now they realize here's like a triangle object... it has a bubble around... so that’s the radar goes around it..." (20:28)

• Dan Farah (on whistleblowers and risk):
  "People have been hurt protecting and hiding this information..." (09:09)

• Dana Carvey (humor):
  "I know more than you then!" (32:49)
  "I would say to them [aliens], rack ‘em!" (56:03)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [10:02] - Presidential and Congressional ignorance on UAP legacy program
• [16:44] - Farah describes “holy shit” moment: bipartisan political alignment
• [18:27] - Discussion of UAP energy estimates and space-time technology
• [22:41] - Explanation of the ‘bubble’ and why UAP photos and radar are challenging
• [25:20] - Origins: Extraterrestrial, interdimensional, or ancient Earthlings?
• [38:27] - Nuclear incidents and UAP interaction
• [39:19–41:16] - Vandenberg and Phoenix mass UFO sightings recounted
• [47:46] - Hypothesis: Some UAP are reverse-engineered by humans, others by foreign adversaries
• [51:32] - The documentary’s record-breaking release despite industry resistance
• [54:07] - Farah’s hope for public awareness and eventual government transparency

Tone and Style

Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain their signature playful, irreverent banter, balancing comic relief with genuine fascination and curiosity. Dan Farah’s explanations are accessible but rooted in credible insider accounts, lending the discussion a seriousness that contrasts with the light-hearted moments. Both hosts oscillate between tongue-in-cheek speculation and earnest concern about the implications of the revelations.

Final Thoughts

The episode delivers an unusually in-depth and credible perspective on government secrecy surrounding UFOs, the seriousness with which government insiders take the matter, and the legitimate questions facing society as technology forges ahead. With bipartisan consensus and increasing whistleblower bravery, the “age of disclosure” may, as Farah suggests, be much closer than people think.