Brett Gelman Gets Mansplained to by Larry David and has Really Nice Shirts

Summary

Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

Episode: Brett Gelman Gets Mansplained to by Larry David and has Really Nice Shirts
Release Date: July 24, 2025

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Introduction of Brett Gelman

The episode welcomes comedian and actor Brett Gelman as the guest, delving into his experiences in the entertainment industry, his collaborations with hosts Dana Carvey and David Spade, and his roles in prominent television series.

Collaborative Experiences: Brett and David's Commercial Work ([02:35] - [10:52])

Brett Gelman shares his experience working with David Spade on a T-Mobile commercial during the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic.

• Brett Gelman ([02:36]): "I'm just a social mess. I don't. Most things I say are. It's not even offensive. It's just like, I'd rather not."
• David Spade ([06:11]): "We did a T Mobile commercial right before the pandemic."
• Brett Gelman ([08:17]): "For a commercial, it was really good. We were funny together."

They discuss how the commercial was initially planned to air during the Final Four for March Madness but was eventually cut down to a 15-second Instagram spot due to the unpredictable nature of the pandemic.

Navigating Show Business Relationships ([10:52] - [21:56])

The conversation shifts to the dynamics of friendships and professional relationships within the industry.

• Dana Carvey ([09:43]): "Clothes are people. Like, you can have an unneeded obligation with an article of clothing that is being micro corrosive to your psyche."

Brett and David explore the challenges of maintaining friendships amidst varying levels of fame and success, highlighting the importance of staying grounded.

Communication Challenges: Texting vs. Voice Notes ([21:56] - [27:14])

The trio delves into the anxieties surrounding digital communication, particularly texting.

• David Spade ([24:00]): "We're on it."
• Brett Gelman ([24:35]): "Text regret every single day. I hate it. I hate texting so much."

They emphasize the preference for more personal forms of communication, such as voice notes, to mitigate misunderstandings and anxiety.

Impact of 'Stranger Things' on Brett Gelman's Career ([28:12] - [35:29])

Brett discusses his role in the hit series Stranger Things and its substantial impact on his career trajectory.

• Brett Gelman ([34:08]): "It's like the original Star Wars was. You know, and what those actors were seen as and that, like, you're seen as like a part of people's family in a way."
• Dana Carvey ([35:10]): "You've got these one, two, huge, critical, brilliant. And then Stranger things."

He expresses gratitude for being part of a successful show that also maintains artistic integrity, contrasting it with his previous projects that had varying degrees of success.

Handling Success and Maintaining Humility ([35:29] - [40:01])

The discussion turns to the pressures of sustained success and the importance of humility in the face of fame.

• Dana Carvey ([39:05]): "You have this massive resume of creating your own stuff. So thank you. You have leverage now though."
• Brett Gelman ([40:01]): "When you’re in the vacuum in your house... It’s easy to like not notice the yeses."

Brett acknowledges the mental toll of constant visibility and the necessity of self-awareness to stay grounded.

Working with Comedy Legends: Chris Elliott and Andy Kaufman ([40:21] - [49:07])

Brett recounts his time working with Chris Elliott on the show Eagle Heart, drawing parallels to the comedic genius of Andy Kaufman.

• Brett Gelman ([47:57]): "He does something where it's like there's four funny things happening at the same time almost."
• Dana Carvey ([48:38]): "And self-important, ridiculous."

He highlights Elliott's ability to blend exceptional acting with a critical take on show business, fostering a creative and humorous environment on set.

Anecdotes and Personal Stories ([49:07] - [53:50])

The hosts and Brett share humorous and heartfelt anecdotes, illustrating the camaraderie and mutual respect among comedians.

• Dana Carvey ([52:16]): "And then he threw a shoe at me. I said, chris."
• Brett Gelman ([50:56]): "All right, Dana, what do you want to. What do you got for this guy?"

These stories underscore the playful and supportive relationships that fuel their creative endeavors.

Closing Remarks and Future Collaborations ([53:50] - [54:24])

As the episode draws to a close, the hosts express their appreciation for Brett's participation and hint at future collaborations.

• Brett Gelman ([53:05]): "But thank you, boss. Appreciate you talking to us."
• Dana Carvey ([54:00]): "Is it okay for me to say I would love to see it. Is that too much?"

They discuss the possibility of revisiting past projects and continuing their strong professional relationships.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Brett Gelman ([02:36]): "I'm just a social mess. I don't. Most things I say are. It's not even offensive. It's just like, I'd rather not."
• Dana Carvey ([09:43]): "Clothes are people. Like, you can have an unneeded obligation with an article of clothing that is being micro corrosive to your psyche."
• Brett Gelman ([24:35]): "Text regret every single day. I hate it. I hate texting so much."
• Brett Gelman ([34:08]): "It's like the original Star Wars was. You know, and what those actors were seen as and that, like, you're seen as like a part of people's family in a way."
• Dana Carvey ([35:10]): "You've got these one, two, huge, critical, brilliant. And then Stranger things."
• Brett Gelman ([40:01]): "When you’re in the vacuum in your house... It’s easy to like not notice the yeses."
• Brett Gelman ([47:57]): "He does something where it's like there's four funny things happening at the same time almost."
• Dana Carvey ([48:38]): "And self-important, ridiculous."
• Dana Carvey ([52:16]): "And then he threw a shoe at me. I said, chris."

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Conclusion

The episode offers an insightful and entertaining glimpse into Brett Gelman's journey in show business, his collaborations with Dana Carvey and David Spade, and his perspectives on fame, communication, and creative relationships. Through candid conversations and humorous anecdotes, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the dynamics that drive comedic success and personal growth within the entertainment industry.

Transcript

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

No show.

[Brett Gelman]

I'm just a social mess. I don't. Most things I say are. It's not even offensive. It's just like, I'd rather not. Yeah, I mean, it's one of the biggest shows ever and it's definitely one of the biggest shows in the World right now. It's not like the biggest.

[David Spade]

I'm pretty friendly with him. I mean, I'm not going to say we're BFFs, but that's kind of cool, you know? Yeah, he's. I'm kind of a fan. I see him on stuff, and then I ran across him. We wound up doing a commercial during COVID right before COVID So I. I definitely got to see if he remembers that. And we all mostly know him from Fleabag and Stranger Things. Of course, that's Smash, One of the.

[Dana Carvey]

Biggest hits in the world. Yeah, Stranger Things. He's been on the last four seasons, and I think the new season's coming out this fall.

[David Spade]

Yeah, we'll ask. So we got a lot of stuff with him. He's a super cool, chill dude, and I make fun of him a little bit, but I always do when I see him. But he's a real good guy, good Sport. He's on TikTok a lot and surprisingly does some really, like. I don't know if it's out of character or in character stuff, but it's pretty interesting. And he's got a lot of followers over there.

[Dana Carvey]

That's going to be exciting.

[David Spade]

Yeah, he's a good dude. And let's hear from him. Here he is. Ready there.

[Dana Carvey]

All right. Our guest today is Brett Gelman.

[David Spade]

From Gelman's Mayonnaise.

[Dana Carvey]

Are you ready for this? Gilbert's over there. He doesn't understand what we're going to do. Galman, Regis.

[Brett Gelman]

I mean, I really. But in all seriousness and through all that stress, I'm so excited to meet you, Dana, and see you, David, and be on here, you know.

[David Spade]

Dana, this is Brett, who's a, you know, business acquaintance of mine. Yeah, we could say that. Right?

[Brett Gelman]

Absolutely. I mean, I think that, like, we were flirting with friendship.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

And I. I think we should go back to that.

[David Spade]

We could start over. Dana's too tough, but I am available for friendship. And Dana's far away. He lives too far.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm quasi agoraphobic, antisocial. Picked a weird career, but. Yeah. Do you ever go through that phase where, like, you meet someone at a club or whatever and you're really connecting? This is dude stuff, not women. And you're like, yeah, I'll take your number. And then even text a few more times and, God, this guy's really funny and smart when you're having fun, and then it just stops one day and then you don't. It just. That's it.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah. No, it happens all the Time.

[David Spade]

That's what we did.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

I think though, like that. That meeting point is real. Like I think you're excited and then I think life and like the insanity of our own brains or neurosis starts to take over. And if it doesn't take that next step soon enough, it can go in the toilet.

[David Spade]

It's more out of sight, out of mind. Like, I think just logistically, Brett and I did a. I said Brent. That's another one you did.

[Brett Gelman]

You say Brent. That's all that happens to me all the time.

[David Spade]

That has to happen to you.

[Brett Gelman]

That's a. That's a give up name. That's the name where at a certain point I don't correct it.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah, I'm Brent.

[Brett Gelman]

Fuck it. We did.

[David Spade]

Didn't we do a T Mobile commercial? Or am I crazy?

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah, we did a T Mobile commercial right before the pandemic.

[David Spade]

Fucking Covid. I think we were the. One of the last things I did that was still. I think there was even whispers like, are we still going to shoot this? Yeah, yeah, we did it. I think maybe February before March was the bad 2020 situation. And it was Brett and I in. God, was it weird. We were at the. Not the dmv. No, Unemployment office.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah. And you were an unemployment agent. And I was like in looking for jobs. And then Covid happened.

[David Spade]

Right. So what I heard was, so we do this commercial which was going to be down during the final four for March Madness. And it was a big commercial, maybe even 90 seconds. Not just a minute. It was a long one. Yeah. So Brad, who I didn't know well or know at all. I just knew of seeing him and stuff, knew he was funny. But then we had a blast. So we do the commercial. It's funny. It roughly. I don't know if I saw Rough Cut, but I like the director. I like the whole thing about it. I was T mobile. It was all good. And then they. Then Covid hit. So they said, we're going to push it because the final four, I don't know if it's going to happen. And they started canceling basketball anyway, slowly eroding. And then like a month later they go, we're just going to hold it right now because America's not ready for comedy. And I was like, I don't know if this is Saturday Night live. It's a 90 second commercial. But okay.

[Brett Gelman]

Right.

[David Spade]

So then I heard they held it more and they said, oh, now we can't air it because we realize it's an unemployment setting. And People are losing their jobs right now and not. No one's working. And I'm like, okay, I didn't, I didn't even get that part. I was like, oh, I guess it is. And then, and then later they, they go, we're going to air it. And it was aired as a 15 second Instagram commercial. Yeah, it was cut down to the nub.

[Brett Gelman]

I mean, for a commercial, it was really good. We were funny together.

[David Spade]

I loved it. I mean, 15. We could have, we got every drop out of that 15 seconds.

[Dana Carvey]

Is there any way we could find that and show it right now?

[David Spade]

I mean, we should, because America can, Greg.

[Dana Carvey]

If not, don't worry about it. Here's my question. One is, I could see you're on a set and you, you see another person with a kindred spirit, comedian, Funny, funny, funny, funny, funny. And then you're just being comedians, being really honest, you know, I have diarrhea, whatever it is. And then do you kind of tell each other or wink at each other? What are you getting paid to do this commercial? Did you tell each other that?

[Brett Gelman]

No, because I knew that David was probably getting paid way more than I was, and he probably knew that too.

[David Spade]

Well, we don't bring up such things on sets. I didn't bring it up during grown ups, that's for sure.

[Brett Gelman]

Right.

[David Spade]

I was, I was like, adam, this is all favored nations. Right?

[Brett Gelman]

Right. Wait, do you bring that update up when you're on set? Do you find out what.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, I don't know. I, I'm, you know, it's almost like a taboo. It's like a word you shouldn't say. But like, celebrity net worth is something I check once in a while. I don't take it seriously. But, you know, the monetary aspect of the magic of show business, the way people perceive it is kind of interesting and how it ebbs and flows. And where you were in 2020, you were, you, you'd broken through, you became a star. So I just thought maybe it'd be fairly close. But I can't tell David be the veteran in that scenario.

[David Spade]

That was the bummer, is that Brett was doing great and he's very funny. And we did a funny commercial. And it's sad. Cause I go, he and I in a commercial. This would have been a good one, I thought.

[Brett Gelman]

So.

[David Spade]

It was. I was sad to see it go. Sometimes I shoot stuff and it goes away and I go, okay. It was just kind of work.

[Brett Gelman]

No, but that was, that was fun. Jody Hill directed it.

[David Spade]

Oh, is that, that's right.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, that's right.

[Brett Gelman]

Like from, you know, the whole Danny McBride, David Gordon Green crew, you know, co creator of all those shows. So he. He was great, but he, like, also just, like, was very loose and cool and let us do our thing, too.

[David Spade]

And we had cool glasses on, too. I wanted to get those glasses and these glasses. Well, we'll have to get the band back together. Not those. You look cool in glasses, though. You got a kind of a cool vibe going.

[Brett Gelman]

Thanks. Thanks. Likewise. You know, I work at it. It's. It's one of the things I work at.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Vibes are, you know, you can. You can change your vibe.

[Dana Carvey]

I had a.

[David Spade]

You can make vibes better.

[Brett Gelman]

You can change.

[Dana Carvey]

I had a shirt like that once, but then my mom got a job. But.

[David Spade]

Jesus. Crowd work.

[Brett Gelman]

That was from Big. I won't say the label. It's like kind of a. No, it's like. It's a fancy Jason Kelsey kind of looks very comfortable. Oversized, though.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Yeah. I don't mind it, though.

[Brett Gelman]

It's very tent like.

[David Spade]

It's expensive. I think so.

[Brett Gelman]

Very expensive. Very. No. I dumped so much money into this shirt, it was crazy.

[David Spade]

That was your big investment?

[Brett Gelman]

It is an investment. No, you take out it. It appreciates over time.

[David Spade]

I know right now, and this sounds like a weird thing, but they are doing. I saw a guy on. Listen, it's no bullshit. It was on TikTok, and he was taking out clothes on layaway. But really blingy expensive, not necessities. Like, check this shit out. And he had all this stuff, but clothes on layaway. It's been a while since I've heard that. I could see if you're stuck, but this guy wasn't stuck. He's just like, I'm gonna blow this shit up with this outfit. I thought, whoa, now you're getting in debt with clothes. That's tough.

[Brett Gelman]

That is tough.

[David Spade]

No, I mean, not the right call, I don't think.

[Brett Gelman]

No, that's like an added. There's always that. When you buy some. An expensive article of clothing, there's always that stress that I don't think ever leaves you. We were like, oh, man. Did I just. Like, is this just so stupid and irresponsible that I just. Just bought this. This article of clothing, but the added stress of putting that on layaway.

[David Spade]

Yeah. The thing about clothes, I have obviously, nice clothing. Obviously Dana has. And we. And if I get so excited, let's say about a shirt. Let's just say a shirt or 300, and I'm. And I'M I, you know, I bring it home and I keep it on the hanger and I'm all excited. I'm not gonna wear it here. I'll wear it here, do all that rigmarole. Then I find out, like a year and a half later, I'm in a clothing store trying on a new shirt I like. And the one I liked is stuffed on the floor going, I'm like, who gives a about this? Look at this new shirt. And I'm like, oh, this is the same feeling I had about that one. But now that one's run through the ringer and we've lost something. We've lost some of the love for it.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah, you gotta get rid of stuff. You gotta get rid of stuff. You gotta clean out the closet. You know, of course you have those choice things that you keep forever. But then certain things you gotta be like, once you start seeing it is, it's too much through the ringer. No, you gotta get rid of it or it'll.

[David Spade]

When you lose your love. I do agree with that woman that holds up and goes, you still. What does she say? She goes, spark, joy. She holds it up, does this spark joy. And you feel it and you go, I really like this. Good memories. Keep it. This one. Dead air. Nope. Out.

[Brett Gelman]

This is nothing. I'm holding onto this. Clothes are people. Like, you can have an unneeded obligation with an article of clothing that is being micro corrosive to your psyche. Heavy, heavy duty. I think about this way too much.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I'm gonna think about it from now on. Yeah, just.

[Dana Carvey]

Just because you can afford it doesn't mean you should have it. I once bought a jacket, I think, at Barney's for a thousand dollars. And I could have got the same thing at Target for 88. I mean, literally the same. And for years I referred to it as the thousand dollar jacket. I felt ashamed of it. I eventually threw it out in anger. But there is kind of a disease when you first get a little extra money and I would ask you, you're you kind of buy. Did you have a very silly purchase? Did you get a Porsche? Did you? What? Did you have any when you first got extra? Extra?

[Brett Gelman]

I. No, I don't think so. I'm always afraid that everything is a silly purchase.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, that's smart.

[Brett Gelman]

I definitely have again, like splurge on clothing where I'm just like, ooh, that's not good. One silly purchase was. I found out it wasn't like a purchase. This guy that I knew, he had a gofundme and it was for his dog. And what I thought it said was, my dog needs surgery or it's going to die. I thought it was like, the dog needs surgery. So, oh, I'm going to put a. You know, I had just gotten a big paycheck. I think I'm like, I'm going to put a good amount of money into this dog surgery to save this dog. I love dogs. But then after I found out the dog had already had surgery, and I. He just needed money because he had paid for his dog surgery.

[David Spade]

Oh, I see.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh.

[Brett Gelman]

Which is completely different thing.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

This guy wasn't that good of a friend. Now I might even consider him an enemy in a way. I like. I really don't like him anymore.

[David Spade]

It's heading now.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

You know what he should have put? He should have called it a GoFundMe. And then you just. I just want to have fun.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah. But I think that's great. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

No, I mean, that's. That's like a curb your enthusiasm episode.

[David Spade]

Yeah. That's funny.

[Dana Carvey]

It really is. The dog was already fine. The dog was healed.

[Brett Gelman]

He took my money. If it was a curb episode, I'd go up to him. I'd be like, hey, what are you doing? Like, I thought your dog needed the surgery. I thought your dog needed the surgery.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Brett Gelman]

I'd ask for the money back.

[David Spade]

And he would go, I got the surgery. So it's your money. I put it in the surgery. So I'm filling that hole back. So it's basically the surgery money.

[Dana Carvey]

And then the guy.

[David Spade]

That would be an argument.

[Dana Carvey]

The guy would be mad that you're asking for it back. What do you want the money back for? You know.

[Brett Gelman]

Right.

[Dana Carvey]

That's my best Larry David.

[Brett Gelman]

And then, no, I. I love it.

[David Spade]

So, Dana, I'm a five hour energy guy. I golf, too. So there's a five hour energy golf unofficial cocktail. They call it transfusion.

[Dana Carvey]

Right.

[David Spade]

It's got like grape, lime and ginger. It's got caffeine, probably as much as a premium cup of coffee, but no sugar. I don't like sugar. I try not to eat sugar.

[Dana Carvey]

Sugar makes you go up and then you go. So you want to keep even. That's what makes you go beep.

[David Spade]

Then it makes you go bop.

[Dana Carvey]

Then it makes you go. It makes you go home. So I stay away from sugar is our point. But that's not five hour energy transfusion.

[David Spade]

Yeah, they're little too. You can carry them around. You know, you go to. You can either go to 5hourenergy.com with the number 5hourenergy.com. But I get them, they sell them a lot of places. You can always just grab them.

[Dana Carvey]

And it's got a lot of B vitamins.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Amino acids, nutrients, you know, keep you alert and energized. Because I've been around you where like we're out to dinner or at lunch and it's 11 o' clock here. And here you get your entree and this is you.

[David Spade]

Oh, no. I, I look at you and I'm like, this guy has no amino acids in his body. I can tell.

[Dana Carvey]

I look at you and this is like this. I just, in my head I see this guy.

[David Spade]

Let me see. I gotta look at you again. Okay.

[Dana Carvey]

I couldn't see five hour energy.

[David Spade]

Yeah, this guy needs some 500.

[Dana Carvey]

This was you at the luncheon.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[David Spade]

Didn't you do Curb? What did you do on Curb?

[Dana Carvey]

You did.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah, I did. I did a. I did a short thing on Curb where I was the pig parker and the whole bit. It was a scene where I parked slightly over the line and he got really mad at me for that. But it was sort of like my experience on it was like kind of like a Curb episode. Because at first he thought I was, like, a total moron.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

Because in the rehearsal, I parked. It was a huge car. I couldn't see over the hood, so I couldn't see the lines. So I park, and I see him walking towards the car, and he's shaking his head, and I'm like, okay, here we go. Dream come true. You know, I'm like, doing this with one of my heroes. And then he's, like, walking. She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You see, you parked perfectly in the space. And I look and I'm like, oh, no. And he's like, see, the whole thing is you park a little outside of.

[David Spade]

The space pig Parker. Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

And then that affects everybody else who parks. And that's why I get mad at you. I'm like, no, no, no. I promise, I'm not stupid.

[David Spade]

No, you knew that. I, like, he restates the whole thing that you thought you didn't get at all.

[Dana Carvey]

You thought you didn't get the joke.

[Brett Gelman]

Because I didn't audition. So you thought I was just some stupid, annoying actor that didn't understand comedy at all.

[David Spade]

It is exactly a curb episode for him to walk up. Then he's explaining this show to you, and you're like, no, I know. I just can't see if you don't.

[Dana Carvey]

Park over the line. There's no joke. There's no joke. Jerry.

[David Spade]

Jerry. No show.

[Brett Gelman]

And then I had the suit. Then, like, after the first tape, you know, I mean, he's laughing, so. So you're immediately put at ease because you're like, oh, my God. He's like. He's loving it. And then we do, like, two takes. The second take goes even better, and we're laughing together, and I'm like, holy shit. I'm sharing a laugh with him right now. And then he. And then I'm like, oh, my God, it's so crazy. It's like we're literally arguing about nothing. And it's like nothing was written. Coming like a cartoon, like, coming out of my mouth, and I was trying to grab it or it reached his ears. Because it was just like. That's the stupidest, cheesiest fucking thing I could say right now. And he looks at me, goes, yeah. Stops laughing, and he's like, yeah, it's pretty much the basis of my whole career.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Nothing. This wasn't clever. This was just nothing.

[Dana Carvey]

That's why Larry was so sweet. We had him on this show and. Yeah, but he's kind of intimidating because his whole comic genius is seen through everybody. And everything into the minutiae of what's really happening. So it kind of can get in your head a little bit sometimes?

[Brett Gelman]

Absolutely no. And my whole thing is I am a person to constantly be seen through. I'm just a social mess. I don't. Most things I say are. It's not even offensive. It's just like, I'd rather not.

[Dana Carvey]

I feel like, oh, text regret is big. I mean, text regret in the moment I'm sending it, and then you look back and you go, holy shit, that comes off so terrible.

[Brett Gelman]

Text regret every single day. I hate it. I hate texting so much. I really do love talking on the phone. Texting gives me so much anxiety, and. And I mostly text because people don't want to talk on the phone, as.

[David Spade]

We know, you know. Brett, have you ever gotten to the thing where you are texting? First of all, I can't spell that well, so I do voice notes. But if you're texting and you're going back and forth to someone, it's funny, and you're just laughing, and you spell two things wrong, and you've got to go back, and I'm like, I'm not as quick now because they think I'm thinking of this joke this whole time. And so I. And then I see them starting to talk again. I'm like, no, I'm just fixing the joke. And I send it. They're like, oh, yeah, that's funny now. But it would have been funny 30 seconds ago.

[Brett Gelman]

Right, Right. Terrible.

[David Spade]

Yeah. It's horrifying. So much stress.

[Dana Carvey]

And the ghosty thing means they're reading your last text, right? So that's makes it more urgent. Holy.

[David Spade]

That means they're starting to type. No, they're typing.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, well, that's.

[David Spade]

The dots. The dots are on your ass. They're coming for you.

[Brett Gelman]

I know. And they're so fast.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

It's really not good for taking each other in and listening. I mean, I know this is a cliche thing to say, you know, it's been said millions of times for the last, what, like, 10 years? But, like, it's not good for communication. That's why, like, I love your voice notes. I think that's a better way. That's fun.

[Dana Carvey]

Definitely.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Dana gets too much. He gets diluted with them. I got him on him now, too, too.

[Brett Gelman]

I know. I missed them. I was getting them. It was. Was I not replying enough? Was that the thing?

[David Spade]

No, you were good. I think. I think our problem with our dating was you were geographically far from me. And it was hard to coordinate a.

[Brett Gelman]

Dinner or something in Los Angeles.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

Okay, well, I'll come to you. Let's.

[David Spade]

Were you Echo park or something?

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

And then it was also Covid, so it was like, hard to. I mean, I think you can tell I have medium to a lot of germs, and I think that threw you a little bit.

[Brett Gelman]

Maybe.

[David Spade]

Maybe you were kind of like, maybe giving.

[Dana Carvey]

Brett, let me ask you this based on you being. Feeling like you're a social mess, besides the tragedy of COVID was there anything about the quietness of the pandemic that calmed your brain down? Because just curious. Just went, show business shut down. Everything shut down. And you just gotta.

[Brett Gelman]

Like, at the. In the beginning, it was that thing of, like, you ever get, like, you know, you get the flu or you get a really bad cold, and there's almost like something that's a relief about it. You're like, oh, my God, I don't have to do anything. I can just, like, it gives you the excuse to just.

[David Spade]

Yeah, no one expects anything either.

[Brett Gelman]

Like, I can take this time. And that's what Covid was at times. At first, it was also like, oh, is the world ending? This is terrifying. But. But at first it was like, okay, yeah, it was just me and my now wife and our dogs, and it was. It was calming. But then it became isolating. That. I mean, you say you're an agoraphobe, Dana. Is that. Is that calming to you, to be alone Sometimes? Does it go between calming and isolating?

[Dana Carvey]

No, I. I just. Calming, really. There's so much stimulus. You know, World War II documentaries on YouTube. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's really interesting.

[David Spade]

I watch calming.

[Dana Carvey]

I like that. But, yeah, I would just say I'm an introverted extrovert on some scale. I don't. Wouldn't say it's dramatic, but when I go out in a social situation, I lose energy after a time and want to get quiet. And other people get energy from parties and things like that, you know, because when I do stand up, it's so extroverted, so much energy that it. It sort of makes me tired. But I do love it.

[Brett Gelman]

So, yeah, I think what, you know, when I'm extroverted and being really extroverted and it goes well. Like, I do a performance or have a day on set that goes well. Or even, like, I go to a party and I. I do social. I have a good time, then I. I have more energy, and I actually have to come down from It. I have to come down from it.

[Dana Carvey]

That's.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah, I have a lot of energy. I have an annoying amount of energy.

[David Spade]

When you're shooting and you're giving it 70%. Are you tired?

[Brett Gelman]

Yes. Yes.

[David Spade]

Did you work with Swartzen? What'd you do on Pretend Time? What'd you do there? We'll get to your. We'll get to your other stuff. Stranger Things, right? I know you're going. Why aren't you asking me what the fans are begging.

[Dana Carvey]

The season premiere of oh, my God. 5 the date is just. It's all over the web.

[Brett Gelman]

It's wild. It's wild.

[David Spade]

Stranger Things scared me.

[Brett Gelman]

The show itself or, like, the idea?

[David Spade]

Yeah, I watched. I was watching it the first season and I was like, is this a scary show? I thought there was kids in. I thought it was like, ET or something.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah, I know. It's like. It's. I. My. It is really scary. I mean, my mother took a while to watch it, and I was like, no, you should watch it. She's like, is it scary, though? I was like, it's not that scary. It's not that scary. And then, like, a couple days later, she called me at, like, three in the morning and, like, left a voicemail. I missed her call. And she's like, brad, it's three in the morning here. I'm watching the show. You said this was not that scary. Brett, this show is very scary, but I can't stop watching it.

[David Spade]

Yeah, it's well done. That's the thing.

[Brett Gelman]

I mean, those kids, like, get the shit beat out of them sometimes by demons. By demons?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

A demon will just, like, boom to, like, a little girl. It's, like, very intensely violent. But, like, I think it's got to be in order to have integrity, I think.

[David Spade]

Have you ever met Millie, Bobby Brown?

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I have.

[David Spade]

I don't know how sets work. I don't know.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah, no, no, I. I guess. I guess I could have worked out where I didn't. Like, I didn't real. I haven't had, like. Have I had. I've had, like, not even, like, a scene with her necessarily.

[Dana Carvey]

But.

[Brett Gelman]

No, I've met him. Yeah, I know.

[David Spade]

And those three dudes are the four. How many? There's four dudes. Three dudes.

[Brett Gelman]

There's four guys. Four main guys.

[David Spade]

I think I ran into them all at something and they were all pretty cool. I like them.

[Brett Gelman]

They're all really cool. Those kids do have their. A good. Good heads on their shoulders. Absolutely.

[David Spade]

Very tough. It's Such a monster hit that it's probably you're at least somewhat in the business for a while where you can kind of had highs and lows and you probably, I'm guessing, just appreciate it. And it's harder to keep your feet on the ground when it's the first thing you do is like so big.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah. I think like the it's always seems to me when I'm like talking to them is that they, they're either naturally that way or they've worked at making sure they stay grounded. And they have people around them that keep them grounded. They like all. The thing is like, I think too, it was kind of like their school. I think I know I'm speaking for them, but I think they helped keep each other grounded because they were in this, you know.

[David Spade]

Yeah. They're all about the same age. They're all kind of hanging out.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

The outside world is. But you know, to leave that I always compared like friends is like when your first thing works so well, it's really hard to have everything stay in balls in the air the rest of your show biz. Right?

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Because like for me, the show's a real high after some other highs, but mostly lows. And also we all have things that we loved that we really believed in. It meant a lot to us that didn't do well. So you go through that too and you learn. Well, not every. And then we were all in things that maybe did well that we didn't really dig that much. So we've had like that whole. All those colors of experiences where we can stay right in that like.

[David Spade]

And to keep your confidence level just throughout it all, like you're still good at it or you're still a good person. It's just. And people look at you differently and then they pay attention, then they don't pay. That's for younger. I mean, as an adult, it's hard. So if you're younger.

[Brett Gelman]

I know. And you're already dealing with like that type of shit as a kid or as a teenager. That's so social.

[David Spade]

Hard enough.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Then you add on how many followers you have, how many who's more famous on the set. I mean, it's sickening. I know Dana says it's rough out there.

[Dana Carvey]

I just call it an emotionally violent sport.

[Brett Gelman]

No, it's really rough. It's really so crazy.

[David Spade]

Well, we all do it.

[Dana Carvey]

I, I, I think I, I didn't want to interrupt. Sorry. But I mean, you did so much before this. You know, I watch researching you Know with Adult Swim and Comedy Central and shows, you did something with Chris Elliott and all this stuff, and you're doing well, but nothing is popping. And then you get this thing, which I guess is the biggest show by numbers or in the last eight years.

[Brett Gelman]

No, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, it's one of the biggest shows ever, and it's definitely one of the biggest shows in the world right now, if not like the biggest. And no, you really. It's pretty tripped out to like, be in other countries and people really know who you are and to also be like, oh, this is like kind of the equivalent of what Star wars was. The original Star wars was.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

You know, and what those actors were seen as and that, like, you're seen as like a part of people's family in a way. Like, it's. It's pretty wild. I mean, like, it was this and.

[David Spade]

Like, fleabag, flea bag jumped you up.

[Brett Gelman]

There in the industry.

[David Spade]

That made bag was a real industry one. Like, everyone's like, yes, like, worship did awards bait. Yeah, for sure.

[Brett Gelman]

Like that Emmys and Golden Globes. It was like all. All eyes on her. All eyes on her. Everybody, no matter how big they were, everybody was just like, when you were sitting at the table or you're sitting in the seats, you could feel people, everybody in the room watching her. It was wild.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. So after all this time in the show business, you got these one, two, huge, critical, brilliant. And then. And then Stranger things. So did you absolute gratitude. Were you. I mean, I, I. How do you process?

[David Spade]

Or are you angry about it?

[Dana Carvey]

Are you angry?

[David Spade]

Why?

[Dana Carvey]

You know, people see how brilliant I was 10 years ago.

[David Spade]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Brett Gelman]

You know, stranger things. No, I'm so grateful. I have nothing but gratitude for it. Yeah.

[David Spade]

No, you know, Stranger Things is also looked at as sort of a very interesting. I mean, I think that gets a lot of praise, too, for being such a cool. You know, it's not like the fleabag type of show, but it's just different lens. You see it and go, shit. They know what they're doing, you know.

[Brett Gelman]

Oh, yeah. No, I mean, I think, I think it is artistically, you know, one of the best things I've ever been a part of and one of the best things out. Yeah, I'm really proud to be a part of it. Yeah. I mean, you know, if it was big and it was bad, I wouldn't. I don't know if I would have the gratitude I have. I think the gratitude mostly comes from that I get to be on a really awesome show. And then on top of that, it's those rare moments where the thing that's really good is also really successful.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Dana Carvey]

And it looks like you're having a blast. I was looking at some clips, just having a lot, a lot of fun.

[Brett Gelman]

It's really fun. It's like, I mean, playing that character is really like a character I grew up loving, you know, like watching like, Danny DeVito and like romancing the Stone.

[David Spade]

Yeah, it's a great one.

[Brett Gelman]

I mean, like, just comedic. The comedic relief and the. In the big action or sci fi thing and. And then he's kind of a prick and he's grouchy and, you know, he's the. He's the per. You know, the truth sayer in a way, but that nobody likes or wants to be like. And yeah, I mean, it's just like such a kid fantasy of wanting to do this and that being one of the types of things I wanted to do.

[David Spade]

You do like a year, you shoot for a while, and then it takes a while to come on. And then people like, woof it down and like in like three days. And then you go, God damn all that work. And it's like, okay.

[Brett Gelman]

I think they watch it like a lot of times, though. I think, like, Though I think that's like, re. Watch it a lot.

[David Spade]

It's kind of interesting because it makes sense.

[Dana Carvey]

Good.

[David Spade]

In a way you have that break because people just go back and cram it over and over.

[Brett Gelman]

No, it's wild. It's wild. I mean, like, people are really like, when's it coming?

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

Fans are, like, pissed. Yeah, they're pissed. Like, they're like, I need it. I need it.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

And well, I, you know, I did this show. They're gonna get a little appetizer because. And this sort. I did this show, like, I shot it like two and a half years ago, and it was with the Fleabag producers, actually. And we shot it in the uk. It's called Entitled, and it's like this really crazy gothic horror comedy show. And Netflix just bought it and so it's coming out.

[David Spade]

Oh, that's great.

[Brett Gelman]

Titled. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

If someone said to you the phrase, when it rains, it pours, would you relate to that?

[Brett Gelman]

No.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, now you have. Now you have another show. You got Fleabag. He's. He's out of control.

[David Spade]

He's had enough.

[Brett Gelman]

I'm greedy. I'm greedy. I want more. More.

[Dana Carvey]

Will it go away or what? Is this the peak? Do you have agents and managers that go, listen, kid, because they're Older than you. We gotta, we gotta plan your next move. But you've already written and produced. You're already a self creative.

[David Spade]

You know how to do all that entity.

[Dana Carvey]

You're not just an actor for hire. You have this massive resume of creating your own stuff. So thank you. You have leverage now though. Leverage. They're going to be happy to see you in the room. Or they have been for a while, I think.

[Brett Gelman]

I mean, hey, I hope so. It's like when you're in the vacuum in your house and you're just like with your people all day, it's like hard to see yourself. You're like. And there's so many obstacles for everything that like, it's easy to like not notice the yeses. So it's like I'm constantly trying to get so many things moving because I don't know what's going to hit the most peaceful time is like when you're making the thing because then it's almost like being sick. You're like, this is all I can do.

[David Spade]

You're left alone to be good.

[Brett Gelman]

So I'm just like on this thing. And then. But then when you're in the in between times and all these things are swarming about, it's real weird. I mean, like, I feel like certain rooms I can walk into and people are going to be like, yes, oh my God, what do you got to do? And there's other rooms I'm going to walk into and people are going to be like, who the fuck are you? Who are you?

[Dana Carvey]

I'd be curious to ask you this question. Like now in 2025, the industry AI. The strike, the whole thing that went on. And what are the streamers looking for? What are they? What are they trying to buy? Just the. Because I'm not in that world. Is it evolved? Is it changed? How would you describe it right now?

[Brett Gelman]

I. I don't know. I really don't know. I mean, like, you always hear all these things that people are saying, but then you don't see the industry really change all that much in terms of like what they're buying and what works. It always seems like what hits is like, is not what.

[David Spade]

Yeah, it's always off the beaten path. Then they go, now we go chase that. So let's do a Stranger Things. And you're like, that's been done. And it came out of the blue. And then something pops up over here and they go, no, that's what we should be doing.

[Brett Gelman]

Like, nobody wanted Stranger Things. The Duffer brothers were like, you can't have the leads be kids and like, all the, all the stuff. And then, you know, Netflix was young and it was just like all these things lined up for it to become a massive hit in that moment. And I think that's all.

[Dana Carvey]

You never know. I pitched Kids and Monsters to ted Sarandos in 2014, and he just got real quiet and said, oh, we'll talk later. I never heard from him. And then I saw Stranger Things. I went, huh?

[David Spade]

No. Because Dana added, he said, it's a poorly written show about kids and monsters.

[Dana Carvey]

And monsters.

[Brett Gelman]

But back then, they wanted poorly written.

[David Spade]

That was their chasing. I like when you, you know you're doing well when your agent's like, what do you want to do now? Did you. Have you written anything?

[Dana Carvey]

What's your dream, Brett?

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

What do you want to do now?

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Drama. You're like a cross between David Cross and Paul Giametti. So we got gmi. We. You're gold, kid. I'm telling you.

[Brett Gelman]

I look better than those two, though, right? I mean, I'm. I'm.

[David Spade]

You look good.

[Brett Gelman]

I'm better.

[Dana Carvey]

Right? You're. You're.

[Brett Gelman]

You.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

I'm working on T mobile, the movie and also like this thing you wrote.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

I like when your mom calls you. She goes three in the morning. She goes, brent, right? And you even let her say Brent.

[Brett Gelman]

You're like, it's the first time that she's called me at three in the morning and not called me Brad.

[David Spade]

Hey, Brad.

[Brett Gelman]

That was the one positive thing about that message, you know, other than that she was watching the show, of course.

[David Spade]

What did you do with Nick Swartzen? Because I know this is sort of a low light in your career. Nick Swartzen, who's a friend of ours. I love what was for you on Pretend time with him.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah, I love that show.

[David Spade]

I love it.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah. No, I mean, that was one of those, you know, like, Nick was one of those people, you know, you got on that show, and I was like, okay. I'm doing okay.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Did you know Nick before that? Because I know him and he's like, if I say I saw, he goes, he's a really good friend of mine. I'm like, all right, that's enough.

[Brett Gelman]

Right. I didn't know him, like, incredibly well, but, like, you know, I would see him perform and stuff, and I would. I was like, this guy's so funny, and he was so nice.

[David Spade]

I hate to say it. He's funny.

[Dana Carvey]

Sweet, nice guy.

[David Spade]

Yeah, He's a sweetheart.

[Brett Gelman]

It meant a lot that he put me on the show. Yeah.

[David Spade]

All right, Dana, what do you want to. What do you got for this guy? Anything else? This guy's been a good guy.

[Dana Carvey]

There's so. The resume is so big.

[David Spade]

I mean, too much of a resume.

[Dana Carvey]

Eagle Heart with Chris Elliott, who I think is brilliant, and Conan produced that. I. Yeah. How long did that go? That was 2011 to 2014. Three years.

[Brett Gelman]

It was like three seasons. I mean, you know, Chris, I think, is one of the funniest people of all time.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, for sure.

[Brett Gelman]

And, I mean, Chris made me Tough man. I mean Chris, he like, wow. It really felt like a lot of times that the show that we were filming was the break and that the actual show is what was happening in between the takes a lot of the time.

[David Spade]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Brett Gelman]

It was like crazy, crazy elaborate bits. Mostly of him telling me how terrible I was and that like at times I was like, I think that this is a joke, but even if it's not, it's so funny. It's so funny. And I mean did like, I mean the genius of the guy, I mean it really like. And then you know the guys who made that, Jason Walner and Michael Coleman and, and, and, and Andrew Weinberg, they were such fans of his and like knew his voice so well and it was like, I mean it was, you know, they idolized Get a Life and they idolized all the Letterman bits. So it was like taking that and putting it in this Walker, Texas Ranger type of world. That was completely insane. Completely insane. And I loved playing. I mean it was, I learned a lot from working with him and watching him.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah, he is good. Well, I grew up watching him on Letterman and just thinking this is such an odd move. Like if you don't know comedy. And I was growing up going, is this real? Like it's kind of fun to watch that stuff and then start to like it.

[Brett Gelman]

No, I mean like some of the stuff he made, he did like made like Andy Kaufman stuff.

[Dana Carvey]

Look, I was gonna bring up Andy Kaufman. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Spade]

I like him better.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, he's what I, he's what I call too funny. Like sometimes you, you, you can't laugh, you laugh later. Like he did a one man show. Was he playing George Washington or fdr? Fdr. Sorry.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And that's the kind of thing, you're watching it and it's like it's so fucking funny that you have, you're laughing later. You can.

[Brett Gelman]

There's so many like there's like he, he does something where it's like there's four funny things, different funny things happening at the same time almost. It's so like yeah, nutrient dense that you're like, you're processing the nutrient dense.

[Dana Carvey]

So pointedly passive aggressive about people. Self right. Or self congratulatory people doing one man shows. You know, drippingly sarcast, aggressively parroting that.

[Brett Gelman]

No, that, that was like. Yeah, that's his like big thing is like he thinks show business is stupid.

[Dana Carvey]

And self important, ridiculous.

[Brett Gelman]

And it's like his whole thing is making fun of show business. And it's like as good of an actor as he is, too. He's also. He's doing great acting and then also making fun of. Fun of actor.

[David Spade]

Kind of against the system.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Yes.

[Brett Gelman]

True rebel.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

The funniest. I mean, really, he made. There was one time where it was this long bit, it was so hot, and I was like, in this table and my character's legs had been severed and they built this apparatus and they made me stay in the table, but it was too complicated to get out of the table. And we were in this, like, warehouse in Santa Clarita where they're, like, hosing in ac. It's not, like, meant to be building in. And, like, I'm already a sweaty guy. I'm sweating so much. And then. And then he comes up. He's like, ew, you smell like duty. And he made like he had the whole crew. He's like, everybody, check out how much bread smells like duty. And he had the whole crew and cast line up and smell me. And then. And I was laughing hysterically. And then. This was an important moment in our friendship, I think. And then I went into my trailer later that day, and he had taken underwear and drawn with a Magic Marker, brown in the ass. And I laughed so hard. And it was like a test to see, are you going to, like, get upset about this? Are you going to think it's funny? And because I thought it was funny, it made us get a lot closer.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, he sounds like a delight to work with.

[David Spade]

Based on delight.

[Dana Carvey]

A delight.

[Brett Gelman]

It was just, like, great.

[Dana Carvey]

Maybe it was a Svengali kind of way to get you to relax.

[Brett Gelman]

I think so. I mean, we had already been doing so many, like, hostile bits and. And stuff like that that I think he knew that I would think it was funny.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

Does it sound, like, abusive? Does that sound like abusive?

[Dana Carvey]

I've heard stranger things, but my point is this. I had to take that. It's a. It's eccentric. It. There's. You'd have to be there. I'd have to be there in the moment to know if it was aggressive or funny.

[David Spade]

Yeah, we'll decide that.

[Brett Gelman]

So what you're saying is an uncomfortable story.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Brett Gelman]

Right.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I've got some Mickey Rooney stories that we'll save for the next time we have you on. But yes, but no. I've worked with Chris on snl, and, yeah, that's him being funny. I don't think that's his sense of humor. And he knew that you would think it was funny, too.

[Brett Gelman]

Exactly.

[Dana Carvey]

David, final comment.

[David Spade]

I just did something with Chris. And he was very mellow the whole time. So I think he didn't think I was funny enough to rub my underpants.

[Brett Gelman]

You think so?

[David Spade]

No, we weren't on the set long enough. We only did a day or two, but definitely. But if your scenario was different. But he was perfectly fine.

[Dana Carvey]

He got my dress. I was hosting snl and he got the church lake get up during rehearsal. It wasn't even in the sketch. He came, oh, hey, isn't that special? I'm the church bitch.

[Brett Gelman]

How are you?

[Dana Carvey]

And then he threw a shoe at me. I said, chris. And Lauren came in. Chris, please. I just.

[David Spade]

It's too far. Thank you, Brent. Thank you, bud.

[Brett Gelman]

Thank you, guys.

[David Spade]

Oh, we're showing a quick photo before we leave.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, that's cool. Oh, that. That's already funny. The get up that you have on.

[David Spade]

Brett, it's funny already.

[Brett Gelman]

I look really hot in that picture.

[David Spade]

You do look good.

[Dana Carvey]

Like you would be one of the YMCA guys. Like you'd be another character in that.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

You know who I look like, Dana? If you could see me straight on people. Michael Douglas and falling down. I have those kind of glasses on and. But we just kind of around and it was a lot of laughs. At least the whole shoot was fun.

[Brett Gelman]

It was really fun.

[David Spade]

But thank you, boss. Appreciate you talking to us.

[Dana Carvey]

Pleasure. Thanks, Brad.

[David Spade]

No, we're gonna.

[Brett Gelman]

So great being on here. And I gotta have you guys on my podcast sometime.

[David Spade]

What the hell is that?

[Dana Carvey]

What's it called?

[Brett Gelman]

I do it with my wife. It's called Neurotica.

[Dana Carvey]

Neurotica.

[David Spade]

Interesting.

[Brett Gelman]

Yeah. My wife.

[Dana Carvey]

I'd be happy to. I. Happy to.

[Brett Gelman]

Come on.

[Dana Carvey]

I have earbuds. I have a technical thing set up.

[David Spade]

And I have an echo set up in my room.

[Brett Gelman]

No, part of the thing on our thing is that it's technically a mess. The whole time you barely hear lo fi. Yeah, it doesn't work.

[David Spade]

That's all right.

[Dana Carvey]

I think that's fine.

[David Spade]

Okay. Well, he just took off. Dana, you guys chat a little bit after and.

[Dana Carvey]

We did a little bit. Yeah. That was interesting how you guys were almost best friends. That was an interesting moment.

[David Spade]

Yeah. We're gonna pick it up. We're gonna pick it up again.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Because we had a good run that day on the shoot. The old T mobile commercial. We can't stop talking about. They might bring back. There's some whispers right now.

[Dana Carvey]

Is it okay for me to say I would love to see it. Is that too much?

[David Spade]

I wonder if we get. I don't know if we have a Regular version of it, but we could play it. We'll look into that. Sure. It takes one Google search.

[Dana Carvey]

I've noticed a pattern with some of our guests that are doing very well in showbiz. Is a lot of aw, shucks, you know, sincere humility about it. So, yeah, that was, that was kind of Brett in a way.

[David Spade]

That's people that he's like that anyway. And also he's had the stuff that work, didn't work, worked medium, worked a lot like everybody. So he's like on a big one and it's pretty exciting.

[Dana Carvey]

So, I mean, the most extreme in, in my lifetime was Eddie Murphy essentially right out of a high school senior. I guess he was 19 when he, when he came out on SNL and it just went 19. I mean, you made it at 2020 in two months and that was a lifetime beyond Eddie.

[David Spade]

20 and two. No, I was grinding out for free drinks, doing stand up.

[Dana Carvey]

You got a cameo in a movie and then you went back to the grind of, of opening.

[David Spade]

I like when they go, we. If you go on, you get two free drinks. But even that feels like too much.

[Dana Carvey]

I don't remember working for alcohol. I honestly don't.

[David Spade]

Anyway, that's another story. This is Brett and I'm glad you guys liked it. I hope you did.

[Dana Carvey]

And see, this was Brett and my name is officially Brett. And so we'll see you. We'll see you the next time on Super Fly on the Wall.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey, an executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman, Maddie Sprung Keyser and Leah Robert Reese Dennis of Odyssey.

[Dana Carvey]

Our senior producer is Greg Holtzman and the show is produced and edited by.

[David Spade]

Phil Sweet tech booking by Cultivated Entertainment.

[Dana Carvey]

Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kirk Courtney and Lauren Vieira.

[David Spade]

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