Denis Leary: Conan’s Comedy Cousin

Summary

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Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

Episode: Denis Leary: Conan’s Comedy Cousin
Date: February 26, 2026
Guest: Denis Leary

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dana Carvey and David Spade are joined by legendary comedian, actor, and writer Denis Leary. The trio delves into Leary’s long-spanning career, the vibrant Boston comedy scene, their Irish roots (and how Denis is related to Conan O’Brien), stand-up rituals, showbiz changes, and memorable stories from sitcoms, movies, and voice work. The conversation is loose, hilarious, and full of old-school comedy camaraderie, giving listeners a "fly on the wall" viewpoint of how comedians see their journey, their influences, and the shifting state of the entertainment industry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Denis Leary’s Comedy Roots and Boston Scene

[06:38–11:42]

• Boston Comedy Influences: Denis and Dana reminisce on Boston’s comedy legacy—names like Stephen Wright (the “start of it all”), Paula Poundstone, and Bobcat Goldthwait, all representing a unique, sometimes “angry” style.
  • Denis: “There was a lot of anger in Bobcat’s act.” [08:35]
• Tough Beginnings: Denis describes being broke, starting out in Boston in the '80s, performing at clubs run by the Clark family, and bombing repeatedly before finding his comedic style.
• First Breakthrough Joke: Denis recalls the Emerson Comedy Workshop at college and creating a character—an “angry guy who smoked”—which became his onstage persona.
  • “If I could buy a pack of tits, I would.” [16:57] (his first big laugh)

2. The Showbiz Climb and Keeping It Going

[13:45–17:30 | 26:40–29:02]

• The hosts and Denis discuss the journey from beginner panic to career stability.
• Charity Performances: Denis talks about performing annually at large gig fundraisers, and managing nerves as a veteran.
  • “At the ages that we’re at...it’s not panic. It’s like, can’t wait to get up there.” [11:55]
• Longevity: The trio reflects on the privilege—and luck—of still working decades into their careers.
  • “How about that? All three of us are still working.” [26:30]

3. Smoking On and Off Stage

[21:06–25:02]

• Leary’s Smoking Habit: Denis confirms he was a heavy smoker for 52 years (“I just quit four years ago”), initially using the cigarette as a part of his stage act, eventually quitting both on and off stage.
  • David: “And you smoked on stage?” Denis: “Carnegie Hall, Mayor Bloomberg’s office...I smoked everywhere.” [21:33]
  • Denis on his health: “I don’t know what to say, but you have— it’s like you never smoked.” [24:20]
• Quitting Mechanism: Denis shares that both booze and cigarettes left his life in a similarly abrupt fashion: “I just have one of those addictive personalities that at a certain point, my brain goes, we don’t need these things anymore.” [24:01]

4. Family, Irish Heritage & the Conan Connection

[27:34–30:36]

• Related to Conan O’Brien: Denis confirms “Conan’s my cousin! Did you guys know that?” [27:37] and discusses the general height and look in his Irish family.
• Irish Stereotypes: Joking about the meaning of their last names in Gaelic (“Leary” means “calf keeper” [30:27], “Carvey” as “rough or rugged” [30:14]), and poking fun at their shared rugged roots.

5. Never Hosting SNL, and Career Choices

[31:00–33:07]

• Denis never auditioned or hosted SNL, even when asked in '92/'93 at the height of his fame: “I had too much respect for what you guys were doing…” [31:28]
  • He shares how grueling the host week is and why he turned it down.

6. Animation Experiences: From Bug’s Life to Ice Age

[33:30–36:06]

• Bug’s Life and Ice Age: Denis contrasts experiences with animation studios, comparing pay and workload. Announces “Ice Age 6 is coming out next year.” [34:05]
  • “We got bumps for all of them...they can see how much these movies are streamed now.” [34:31]

7. Streaming vs. Theaters: The New Hollywood

[36:06–41:16]

• They openly dissect the death of “mid-range” movies, threats and opportunities from streaming, and how even family comedies and character-driven dramas get squeezed by blockbusters.
  • Denis: “You want to be streaming...more people will see your movie on a Friday night than will see it if you ran it in theaters combined.” [37:14]
• Cultural Changes: How live sports dominate TV, and the timeless magic of the movie theater experience versus phones and multitasking at home.
• Pet Peeves: Denis rails against watching classics like ‘Goodfellas’ on an iPhone: “I mean, what are you wearing— Apocalypse Now on your iPad?!” [39:44]

8. TV and Shooting Abroad

[47:03–51:07]

• New Show – Going Dutch: Denis stars in “Going Dutch,” filmed in Ireland but set on a real U.S. military base in the Netherlands. The show’s premise blends absurd reality with comedy.
  • “It became a den…for illegal drugs—can’t blame them.” [50:04]
• Why Shoot in Ireland?: Cost, tax breaks, and a booming local film industry: “…hundreds of Americans fly to Ireland…and it’s still exponentially cheaper than Hollywood.” [51:19]

9. Adam Sandler’s Respect & Film Criticism

[52:16–53:41]

• The trio laments how critics underappreciated Adam Sandler and “Grown Ups” films despite fan popularity.
  • Denis: “Now...he’s turned into a great actor and he can make big funny movies.” [53:05]
• Denis also reflects on starting as a theater actor, then learning film acting “on the fly” alongside stars like Stallone.

10. Demolition Man & Hollywood Stories

[54:40–58:04]

• Demolition Man Anecdotes: Denis shares stories of working with Stallone and Sandra Bullock.
  • On Stallone: “He was the nicest guy...Sly, he was hitting golf balls so hard, he busted a net.” [55:49, 57:03]
  • “Three week vacation where I got paid because Stallone was trying to kill the golf ball.” [57:55]

11. On Success, Fame, and Phil Hartman

[58:55–62:51]

• Denis discusses the surreal moment he “made it”—going from broke to “0 to 60” when the scripts and deals came rolling in.
  • “We had a lot of money all of a sudden from having nothing.” [60:38]
• Phil Hartman Memories: Deep affection for Hartman on the set of Small Soldiers; “He was making me laugh so hard…the director would go, you guys have to leave and act to a tennis ball.” [61:33]
  • On Phil’s ‘Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer’: “Once I told him that was my favorite guy, he would just break that guy out on set.” [62:19]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Denis Leary:
  • “Because he’s Irish and he’s my cousin. Did you guys know that?” (on Conan O'Brien, [27:37])
  • On smoking: “I smoked everywhere. I smoked in Mayor Bloomberg’s office in New York City while he was the mayor. He was the complete anti-smoking guy.” [21:33]
  • “I just gave up on the idea of quitting, so...I finished the cigarette. And I went, man, that’s it.” [23:46]
• Dana Carvey:
  • “You only are your digital copy…there’s no macro or truth of exactly how you look.” [25:21]
  • On the meaning of Irish surnames: “In Gaelic, O’Garbian means rough or rugged. That’s a miss. That fits.” [30:14]
• David Spade:
  • “All three of us are still working. How about that?” [26:40]
  • “Who’s gonna go to the theater? Who are they gonna go see? Tom Cruise, right? Still apparently. Fucking big Marvel movies, which are again…on the wane as well.” [37:40]
  • On podcast banter: “But if Dana is a good talker, hysterical, and then we just said, maybe we should try something like this…” [44:40]
• On Adam Sandler:
  • “Now the last laugh is on them because he’s turned into a great actor and can make big, funny movies.” (Denis, [53:05])
• On Phil Hartman:
  • “He made me laugh so hard as you guys do.” (Denis, [62:51])

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Boston Comedy Beginnings: [06:38–11:42]
• First Big Joke / Onstage Persona: [15:44–17:30]
• Smoking & Quitting: [21:06–25:02]
• Conan’s Cousin & Irish Heritage: [27:34–30:36]
• Animation (Bug’s Life, Ice Age): [33:30–36:06]
• Streaming vs Theaters: [36:06–41:16]
• Filming in Ireland (Going Dutch): [47:03–51:07]
• Adam Sandler & Grown Ups Cheer: [52:16–53:41]
• Demolition Man / Stallone Stories: [54:40–58:04]
• Success, Fame, and Phil Hartman: [58:55–62:51]

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The Fly on the Wall Podcast Vibe

The episode is marked by quick-fire anecdotes, friendly teasing, and reflective humor on the absurd world of showbiz. The trio’s natural chemistry, shaped by decades on the comedy circuit, produces constant laughs and candid confessions. From sharing veteran advice about nerves and success to musing on movies, podcasting, and family, listeners are treated to not just stories, but also a genuine feel for the unpolished side of comedy life.

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Transcript

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[Dennis Leary]

Conan's had Conan.

[David Spade]

Oh my God.

[Dana Carvey]

Conan needs a friend.

[David Spade]

Why?

[Dana Carvey]

Cuz he's Irish.

[Dennis Leary]

Because he's Irish and he's my cousin. Did you guys know that? And Stallone is in his demolition man outfit with the boots and everything. And there's a golf guy dressed like a golf pro and he's just driving both, you know, slicing again. Those ripped you off.

[David Spade]

They r me. Can you say yeah, you can say anything.

[Dana Carvey]

Those sm.

[David Spade]

No, but you can say Rat five.

[Dennis Leary]

You can't say. But you can say rap.

[Dana Carvey]

Dennis Leary.

[David Spade]

That's his song. That song is so catchy that I can see why. It was like a hit song.

[Dana Carvey]

No, it was an actual hit song.

[David Spade]

It's like he said when he does these gigs, he's like.

[Dana Carvey]

And I have to do the song, of course, after the asshole song.

[David Spade]

But he's around our age.

[Dana Carvey]

He's a good dude.

[David Spade]

Been in comedy forever. Always working. And on Rescue Me, he was on so many things.

[Dana Carvey]

He's done a lot of movies and television. And one man shows no cure for cancer. 91 or 2 kind of put him on the map.

[David Spade]

Folks, folks.

[Dana Carvey]

And he's worked non stop. We talk about his smoking. That's kind of became his thing as a. As a comic character and how maybe he doesn't do that anymore.

[David Spade]

We discovered he's going to be in a new ice age.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Another ice age.

[David Spade]

I think he's the lion. I think he's the lion.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

And we had.

[Dana Carvey]

He has a new show called Dutch on Going Dutch. Is it going Dutch on Fox? And it's actually an interesting story about how this gets made.

[David Spade]

What?

[Dana Carvey]

It's based on a real thing. And he plays the George S. Patton of the bass. It's a military.

[David Spade]

Yeah. It's fun to have some old schoolers on here. Cracking. We talked about the state of shooting and where people shoot their shows. It's always on everyone's mind. And here. Here's a fun convo with Dennis Leary.

[Dennis Leary]

Hello, David.

[David Spade]

Oh, is it Dennis already?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, Early.

[David Spade]

Finally someone comes early. What?

[Dennis Leary]

Nobody comes early.

[David Spade]

No one.

[Dennis Leary]

That's crazy.

[Dana Carvey]

Look.

[David Spade]

Look at. Let's just watch Dana with a buffoon.

[Dennis Leary]

What's he doing?

[Dana Carvey]

I don't know.

[David Spade]

He doesn't know what he's doing. He's doddering. Shut the door. Get ready.

[Dennis Leary]

We were just watching you like a zoo animal in his cage.

[David Spade]

Yeah, he can't hear you yet. Hold on.

[Dana Carvey]

So they told me to put the Superman fly. Can you see what it says, Dennis?

[Dennis Leary]

No.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, it's fine.

[David Spade]

Leave it there. Leave it there.

[Dana Carvey]

This is a £500 dresser. I have no idea why. I'm not that weak. It's unbelievable.

[Dennis Leary]

First of all.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, slow down.

[Dennis Leary]

No, no. I was gonna say. So I don't know. Some. You guys have a studio sometimes, but sometimes you're.

[David Spade]

Yeah, exactly.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

Okay.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, exactly.

[David Spade]

Right?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

Yes. So. Because I've seen people in the studio with you.

[David Spade]

Yeah. This is my house. Dennis. And this is a studio if we need it. And Dana lives in a mansion about three hours away.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm on a. I'm on a farm, but I can get there.

[Dennis Leary]

I'm on a farm, too.

[Dana Carvey]

You're not just saying that?

[Dennis Leary]

No, I'm on a farm. I'm on a farm. A horse farm.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, okay. We got a couple horses right now, long story short.

[Dennis Leary]

But yeah, is your wife. Where is my wife? Oh, yeah, a rider.

[Dana Carvey]

I thought you said, is she around? I said she's in the car to

[Dennis Leary]

your wife for a second.

[Dana Carvey]

But look, if people request going into the studio live, I will almost always try to make it, you know, Almost always try. A lot of people. You are being Boston, so you wouldn't want to make the trip out, but somebody's been doing some local podcasts.

[David Spade]

Oh, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Aren't you. Where are you now?

[Dennis Leary]

I'm in. Right now I'm in New York.

[Dana Carvey]

Interesting.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Where's your precious farm?

[Dana Carvey]

Just what state?

[Dennis Leary]

The farm is in New York. It's right outside the city. It's a long story. I'm a city. I'm a city kid. And I always was. I was born and raised in the city, but my wife, you know, wanted to. Once we got money. My wife met me when we had nothing. Once we got money, she wanted to ride horses, and she became a competitive rider, so we always had horses. Now when the kids grew up, they refused to come visit us on that farm, which was like three hours out of the city. So we moved closer to the city. A little tiny farm with a couple of ponies.

[Dana Carvey]

So you had no money.

[Dennis Leary]

Basically, no money, no credit card.

[Dana Carvey]

This woman called your wife.

[Dennis Leary]

Now, this amazing woman liked you.

[Dana Carvey]

Who's amazing? With no money?

[Dennis Leary]

No money? No. No money, no credit cards. Nothing I didn't have.

[Dana Carvey]

And no real possibilities for any kind of success.

[Dennis Leary]

I mean, think about it, really. Like, think about the Boston comedy scene in 1985 or 80. 80. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

She probably dated Lenny Clark.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, exactly.

[David Spade]

Jimmy Tingle.

[Dennis Leary]

You know, we were all getting paid under the table at a. At a club run by Lenny Clark's brother Mike. That's what we did for a living.

[Dana Carvey]

This one I want to ask you because just that we're here right now. It's just the Boston scene.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And who's carrying the torch for whatever you call that? You know, you had your quirkies. You had Paula Poundstone. You had Bobcat Goldwaith. All right, you had Stephen Wright.

[Dennis Leary]

Stephen Wright was the start of it all.

[David Spade]

He was the big one.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, but a Lot of hulking, like, kind of badass type.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, rough and tumble clubs. I saw the documentary. You fight you and you were part of that wave. I mean, where did. Where's that coming from? Should I visit Boston or watch my back or what? What's all the anger?

[Dennis Leary]

Well, I don't know. Again, that's one of those things that people constantly ask me. Bill Burr, you know, they asked Bobcat too, because Bobcat. There was a lot of anger in Bobcat's act.

[David Spade]

So.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, yeah, a lot of.

[Dennis Leary]

I think it's just a lot. Yeah.

[David Spade]

Really.

[Dennis Leary]

I mean, great scene.

[David Spade]

Right?

[Dennis Leary]

But some of the funniest people weren't angry people. Steve Wright wasn't angry. That was a.

[Dana Carvey]

No, no, it's just amazing.

[Dennis Leary]

Beautiful Christine Haiku act. I mean, just amazing act. Right.

[David Spade]

Goodness.

[Dennis Leary]

Paula was just like, really so, you know, open and friendly to these. She used to sit, you know, the rest of us are attacking the audience like. Like we want to kill them. And she sits on a stool and opens up and everybody fucking loves her.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

So, you know, it was weird.

[Dana Carvey]

Very fast. I used to do a bit because I just thought of an angry comedian and I know this guy.

[Dennis Leary]

I know this character.

[Dana Carvey]

And then. And then this guy gets really rich and famous, but still has to find ways to be angry, you know? And I did this bit and then people thought I was doing Bill, but I started thinking of it in the 90s.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, I know, right?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. You know what drives me nuts? Drives me out of my mind. Meter maids. What are you driving? A golf cart. I need a parking ticket. What are you going to get a nine iron in there?

[David Spade]

The.

[Dana Carvey]

You know. You know what drives me out of my mind?

[David Spade]

Pickles?

[Dana Carvey]

Cyclone fences. You can't get a regular fence. So anyway, that was the bit. And I love that guy.

[Dennis Leary]

I love that character.

[Dana Carvey]

I love being in that attitude because it's not me. I'm a people pleaser and. And hopelessly. Whatever.

[David Spade]

Lewis Black was constantly in a state of.

[Dennis Leary]

Oh, yeah, Lewis Black was in a rage.

[David Spade]

Rage. No matter what.

[Dennis Leary]

He made me look like Paula Poundstone.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yours was like, funny, stupid.

[Dana Carvey]

Ra.

[David Spade]

Just mad at. Stupid, I think.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, my. Mine was silly crazy. And it still is. Like, when I do. I do stand up twice a year. Right. I have two charity concerts.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

One in Boston, which is a big gig for the Cam Neely foundation. That's like 15,000 people. And the other one is the Michael J. Fox foundation show, which is private as well. But, you know, it's a smaller crowd. It's a few thousand. But I don't do any old material except the asshole song. But I just. It's amazing like fucking how. I mean, I can't remember exactly what the bit was, but when I went up this fall, I did a whole thing about RFK Jr. But about being from Massachusetts. Like to be considered an asshole. If you're a Kennedy from Massachusetts, you really have to agree because everybody is so, so pro Kennedy. Right?

[Dana Carvey]

The Kennedy.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, they still love the fucking Kennedys in Massachusetts. So egregiously. You have to piss off. You have to piss off everybody in Massachusetts. But your family has to speak out first. So when your family comes out and says, hey him, then we all go, all right. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Dana Carvey]

Not fly in formation. There's a Kennedy formation. And Bobby went, I'm. I'm going over here. Yeah.

[David Spade]

Do you even doing stand up on those things? You got to get nervous. I mean, still stand up. You got to do a long set.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, it's. Well, you know, that feeling now it's not so much nervous. It's just like when at the ages that we're at, hopefully it's more like the butterflies. Like I want the show to start. Right.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

It's not too, like, it's not the, it's not panic. It's like, can't wait to get up there. Hope I remember this. You know what I mean? Like, right.

[Dana Carvey]

It's not like, oh, if I do well here, maybe I'll have a career or, you know, I was bombed so hard at the improv in Hollywood. Yeah. I went on at 805, you know, I mean, I mean death. And I was killing in the clubs in the hinterland. And then they said, hey, Norman Lear thought it was pretty funny. I. What the. He was there, you know.

[Dennis Leary]

So what was Norman Lear doing there?

[Dana Carvey]

I don't know. Well, this is a while back. My point is even weirder. We're not nervous in that sense that we're dancing for our donuts. We, we. We've had our careers and now we're continuing. Which is another thing I wanted to ask you about because, well, I could

[Dennis Leary]

see it like, because I, I stick. I usually put a young or first time person for a gig that size on the Cam neely thing in Boston. But also at the Michael J. Fox gig, like, you know, there, there'll be a person there who's doing it for the first time. A young come. And I can see, I can see the panic that we all used to for sure. Right. So you Go like, hey, man, it's. It's gonna be fine. It's a charity, whatever. You give them the heads up, right? So I understand that. I remember that. I mean, we all remember that.

[Dana Carvey]

I was doing one with Billy Crystal in the early 80s. Somehow I had the same manager, and they got me on a little Showtime special. I had like two minutes. Andy Kaufman was the headliner. I was fucking panicked. I had no business being on this show. And Billy Crystal goes, you got fear in your face? Go outside and walk around. Get outside right now. Walk around. You look nervous. You know, he was really trying to help me, but I remember that.

[Dennis Leary]

Did you go out and walk around?

[Dana Carvey]

Didn't help at all. I completely bombed, you know.

[Dennis Leary]

What did you do? What material did you do?

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, I did a Jacques Cousteau bit. Come on, we're going,

[David Spade]

dennis, don't make that face.

[Dennis Leary]

You couldn't kill with a Jacques Gustavus.

[David Spade]

You can't kill with.

[Dana Carvey]

I was first up and I had two minutes. But the point is, is that I understand the young comedian going to these big giant charity events. 15,000 people.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, I still remember. I mean, I don't know, I can't remember what your guys backstories was on this, but I fucking Lenny Clark ran that fucking. The big comedy night in Boston. The first comedy night was run by Lenny Clark. It was a Wednesday night open mic, but he would have like, he would have you come back over and over again, right? At a Chinese restaurant in Cables, right? So like, I went up the first time I went up because I. I went to college with Steve Wright at Emerson College. And so somebody said, and he was the shyest fucking guy in the world. And somebody, a mutual friend said, hey, Steve went up at a fucking Chinese restaurant last night and did stand up. And he lived around the corner from me. So I went around the corner to his apartment. I was like, what the fuck? He's like, yeah, I'm doing. He goes, I didn't face the audience. I faced the wall. I did pretty well. So I went and I saw it, and I couldn't do what he did, but I could do what Lenny Clark did because Lenny was like a regular guy off the street. And I bombed. I must have bombed for 10 weeks. And every time I bombed, there'd be like a tiny little laugh. I'd go, oh, that was a pretty good thing. Yeah. And then Lenny would go, hey, come back next week. He would just keep telling me to come back and I would fucking bomb. But then there'd be like two bits and so like, either you.

[Dana Carvey]

When did you. When did you have your first One little line or one little attitude or one bit that was surefire, like, oh, I can always lean on this. Everything else sucks.

[Dennis Leary]

But yeah, so I did. When I was in college at Emerson College in Boston, we, for a bunch of us, formed a thing called the Emerson Comedy Workshop. And it was a, you know, a theater group where we had to do original shows. Oh. We had to write all the material to get credit for it. So one of the characters I eventually played in that while I was in college was a guy. Everything was kind of, you know, behind a fourth wall because it was the theater. But there was one character I played we called Bill, who was a really angry guy. It was basically me. It was a really angry guy who smoked and who just talked to the audience and ranted and raved about the Kennedy assassination or whatever. Right. He's literally like your parking meter guy, except it was me. So when I. When Steve Wright was doing that thing, I was like, well, that. I'm just going to try to do the guy. That guy. Right, that guy who's basically me. So everything wasn't working. But then I. I wrote my, like, the first smoking joke I wrote, which was my sister says, you know, these things are just a replacement because my mom didn't breastfeed me long enough. And I was like, hey, if I could buy a pack of tits, I would. That was the first.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, pack of tits is a great word.

[Dennis Leary]

That was the first joke where I went like, oh, yeah.

[David Spade]

Then you're like, how do I work tits in every joke?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I need ten. Ten?

[David Spade]

That's all you learned?

[Dana Carvey]

Ten pats of jokes that are as good as.

[Dennis Leary]

As good as. It took me a while, but that was where I got my first smoking. Angry smoking.

[David Spade]

The Emmy winning comedy Scrubs is back to ABC with a fresh Pulse. It's been 15 years since we've checked in with the gang at Sacred Heart Hospital. The beloved original cast, Zach Braff, Donald Faison and Sarah Chalk scrub back in older and maybe wiser Judy Reyes, John C. McGinley also reprise their iconic roles. And Scrub fans, you'll be thrilled to see some of your fan favorite characters pop up, though we can't reveal any names just yet. After creating hits like Ted Lasso and Shrinking, executive producer Bill Lawrence has put together a diverse, talented group of writers to bring to life the Scrubs universe of today. And there's a healthy injection of super funny, colorful new characters, including a fresh group of newbie interns and Co workers slash nemeses like Vanessa Bayer and Joel Kim.

[Dana Carvey]

Booster the new season of scrubs, Wednesdays at 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu.

[David Spade]

This year, get back to an at home routine that you love and elevate your space with Wayfair.

[Dana Carvey]

Wayfair.

[David Spade]

From bedding to mattresses to storage solutions for every room in the house, Wayfair is your one stop shop. You can pop your living room with accent pillows, mirrors. Mirrors. I have a lot of mirrors.

[Dana Carvey]

Faux. Faux plants.

[David Spade]

Oh yeah, you have a faux plant. That's right.

[Dana Carvey]

Is it, is it, is it or is it?

[David Spade]

We don't know. It's so real looking look.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. You guys should actually everybody here check out Wayfair.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, go to their site because I've been looking around and it's really good stuff. That's. I know I sound like I'm doing a different pitch, but it's not that expensive, but it's really cool.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm looking at a sort of a chaise lounge or a little cloth, a little couch, bedding and bath basics, bedding, mattresses. And for you, David, towels. Because I know you have one of those like you have in a public restroom air dryer. You don't have towels.

[David Spade]

So I put my hair in a towel like this and I walk around the house like I'm in a 60s movie, like Doris Day.

[Dana Carvey]

I did that in Opportunity Knocks.

[David Spade]

Everything was an opportunity knock.

[Dana Carvey]

Everything was. So yeah, you can get stuff for your kids room, you know, get them on track.

[David Spade]

This year you got storage for every space you got, storing for outdoor furniture, bathroom, Getting organized. Kitchen.

[Dana Carvey]

Kitchen stuff. Yep.

[David Spade]

A lot of people work from home, so you got those setups. You get desks, chairs, bookcases, fake backdrops. Get a nice, get a nice bookcase.

[Dana Carvey]

And for you, accent pillows. Because I know those are big in your life.

[David Spade]

I take the accent pillow and then I karate chop it to make it look like that.

[Dana Carvey]

I know. And they think you're joking, but you're not.

[David Spade]

I'm serious. It's very convenient. They have everything you want. They got a huge selection of home decor items. It's easy to find what's right for you. Yeah, you were looking. What are you looking for? Chaise lounges?

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I was looking for just a little, a little couch or a chaise lounge. And then I just saw like 20 different options. So I'm going to order one probably today.

[David Spade]

So you look, you see, it's easy to find.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, Anything you want. You can navigate their site very easily. And like I said, it's, it seems like high quality stuff for a very reasonable price. So I check.

[David Spade]

I always hear about it and now I know more about it. But it's the place to go. Listen, get organized, get refreshed, get back on track this year for way less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. That's W A Y F A I R.com Wayfair Every style, every home.

[Dana Carvey]

Every home. Did you smoke? I have to ask, or was it.

[Dennis Leary]

I just quit. I just quit four years ago. I smoked for 52 years.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay. So it was not a prop.

[Dennis Leary]

Oh, no. Fuck no. I stopped smoking after no cure for cancer. Because on stage, because I was like, there's no point now because it's like people expect me to smoke. I, I'll just get rid of. I smoked like a chimney until four years ago.

[David Spade]

And you smoked on stage.

[Dennis Leary]

Smoked on stage and nobody cared. Nobody gave a. I smoked out. I smoked on stage at Carnegie Hall. I smoked where you're not allowed to smoke at all. Yeah, I smoke. I smoked everywhere. I smoked in Mayor Bloomberg's office in New York City while he was the mayor. He was the complete anti smoking guy. Light up. Until people told me, did you have

[Dana Carvey]

a cool move with it? Because if it wasn't dangerous, I mean, I thought John Ham in Mad Men. Mad Men, he was so brilliant with the cigarette and making it intensely cool the way he smoked it. Did you have moves that you're conscious of or did you just look cool?

[Dennis Leary]

No, I, on stage, I always tried to look the opposite of cool with it. So I was always like making it huge, you know what I mean? Like big gestures. But I, I don't know if I was cool and really I thought I was cool. In real life, smoking.

[Dana Carvey]

Did you ever put it in your mouth and keep talking like Brad Pitt did and once upon a time in Hollywood? Yeah, because that is the cool move

[Dennis Leary]

when it, Dude, I smoked. I smoked all the time.

[David Spade]

You knew what you're doing.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Have you had your lungs checked out

[David Spade]

or how are you now?

[Dennis Leary]

Here's the thing, right? I quit drinking like 20 years ago. I, I'm not a health nut, but I, you know, I, I'm physically active. I play a lot of fudgeing sports. I, you know, try to keep myself in shape. Colin Quinn, you know who quit smoking a long time ago was the guy. When I saw him, he'd be like, you're going to be, going to, you're never going to quit, you know, so that Was always in my head, right. That he was probably right because we knew each other back when we were in our 20s, like, when we were all smoking, but he and I smoked like fucking chimneys. So I was like, he's right. I'm never. I just gave up on the idea of quitting, so. And I'm. This is not any brag. I'm just telling you guys what happened. I don't know why it happened. I went outside to smoke a cigarette in August, 4. Four years ago, I think it was. And. And I literally finished the cigarette. And I went, man, that's it. And I thought, that's weird that I said that to myself. And I had a full pack. So I'm like, I'm gonna smoke again tomorrow. I woke up in the morning, I threw that pack away, Never smoked again. I just never. I don't know. So it's just like the quitting drinking. I quit drinking. I was like, ah, I'm done. Like, I think I just have one of those such addictive personality that at a certain point, my brain goes, we don't need these things anymore. Right?

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

So my wife goes, you're getting a checkup, and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay. And she's like, I'm coming with you because I don't trust you.

[David Spade]

Which is.

[Dennis Leary]

She's right. Right. Because if the doctor told me bad news, I would probably. So I go. I do the tests, everything running, breathing, the scans of the lung, and then we have this meeting with the cardiologist, and he's like. I don't know what to say, but you have. It's like you never smoked.

[David Spade]

Love it.

[Dennis Leary]

And I was like, what? And as soon as he said it, my wife turned to me. She goes, you're not smoking again. And I was like. That was the first thing I thought. Like, I can start smoking again.

[Dana Carvey]

But I did.

[David Spade]

I got.

[Dennis Leary]

I got lucky genetically. I got totally lucky.

[Dana Carvey]

There's. People drink like a fish, go to 95, you know, and other people, you know.

[Dennis Leary]

So my mother died at 98. She just passed away, and she never smoked or drank a day in her life. My dad dropped dead when he was 60, and he smoked like a chimney. So I. I got my mother's insides and my dad's outsides, I think.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Wow. So you got to be really handsome and healthy.

[David Spade]

I mean, you look the same. That's good. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

Well, I think. I think we all think we look the same, but we don't.

[Dana Carvey]

Depends on the lighting, depends on the shot. My wife And I are at the airport and they go, clear. Do you want to have clear? You go and you. They take your picture.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

It was so monster. I was like, amazing. How old we looked like we're old. I know. You only are your digital copy and it's lighting and stuff, so there's no macro or truth of exactly how you look.

[David Spade]

Well, you've got a good voice. That's the same too. This. Your voice is so distinct that I think that's cool to have a good, strong voice.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

What are you guys talking about? You guys have two of the most identifiable voices in show business.

[Dana Carvey]

David does. I, I.

[Dennis Leary]

You do? What are you talking about?

[Dana Carvey]

His voice? Yes.

[Dennis Leary]

Who's that? It's the voice you lead into the bits with.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, the in and out guy.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

All right. I. I like that. No, I mean what you're saying.

[Dennis Leary]

Listen, we should. We have to face certain facts, which is the three of us, he's. He's a youngster compared to you and me. Right, David? So because you're what, seven? What are you, 71?

[Dana Carvey]

No, don't go.

[David Spade]

Hey, hey, whoa, whoa.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm 70, but I read at a 72 year old.

[David Spade]

Yeah, we'll cut this out.

[Dennis Leary]

I'm 69 and I.

[Dana Carvey]

69.

[Dennis Leary]

I tell people I'm gonna be 69. Okay, Dana. Or a lot of people. I'm 70 because I look, even. Here's the point. We're both. All three of us are still working. How about that?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask you about. The amazing men of, like, how long and now you got it. You got a big TV show, you know, in Ireland, where you're filming it going Dutch. So it's like you don't stop. I mean, your Wikipedia page, you know, rescue you all. You're just going, going, going. I don't know how you do it, but now you got a new show, we can talk about that. You probably don't want people to know about it though, right?

[David Spade]

It was the only reason I'm talking to you.

[Dana Carvey]

Get out there. Season two.

[Dennis Leary]

Honestly, though, even if I didn't have a show, I would. I. I did. You know, my podcasts habits are so up because I'm so old school. I literally have only listened to the podcasts that are on satellite radio in my truck when I'm driving around.

[David Spade]

Right? Easiest way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

[Dennis Leary]

So that's Conan. Conan's stupid Conan.

[David Spade]

Oh, my God.

[Dana Carvey]

He needs a friend. Why? Because he's Irish.

[Dennis Leary]

Because he's Irish and he's My cousin. Did you guys know that?

[Dana Carvey]

We looked it up.

[David Spade]

We looked up some.

[Dennis Leary]

It's up.

[Dana Carvey]

How tall are you?

[David Spade]

It's a lie.

[Dennis Leary]

Six one. But my son is huge. My son is six, seven.

[Dana Carvey]

Conan's height.

[Dennis Leary]

Conan. There's a bunch of people in my family, my dad's side people are tall and thin. Even the women.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Dennis Leary]

I mean, he has one. He had one sister who was very small, but. And my sister Anne Marie, who's right behind me, is pretty tall. My. My son is tall. My daughter is tall. My wife has tall people on her side of the family.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay, well, most.

[David Spade]

I'm not coming.

[Dana Carvey]

Are not tall.

[Dennis Leary]

No.

[Dana Carvey]

But Bono is average. You know, 5, 6, 5, 9.

[Dennis Leary]

But Conan are the reason. You could tell. Conan and I are actually. Well, listen, by the way, it's like it. We're from the southwest, so. And we're all. It's not like everybody's a cousin. You know what I mean?

[Dana Carvey]

Like, yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

So Conan and I, I. My whole body is legs, my torso is tiny, and I have a look at this hair now.

[David Spade]

Yeah, you got a little Conany hair. Right?

[Dennis Leary]

Gets a little bit higher and the legs are longer.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm cone. You're right there.

[Dennis Leary]

So. And by the way, you want to talk about angry, funny Irish guys, Conan's the king. Nobody.

[David Spade]

He doesn't show it, honestly.

[Dana Carvey]

Is he angry? I mean, he's angry.

[Dennis Leary]

He's pretty angry on the podcast. He's really funny.

[Dana Carvey]

I love it.

[Dennis Leary]

He can go down the rabbit hole. But anyways, what I was going to say was I got. I became aware of your guys podcast and I, I was looking at it on Instagram because I don't listen to podcasts.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

So this is my usual thing of seeing.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, this is. I brought this up. It's not profound, but this is a new art form where people consuming what we're doing right now are most likely doing something else while they. They're gardening. They're at the gym or in their

[David Spade]

car, in their house doing chores and

[Dana Carvey]

something I used to think, razzle dazzle. I got, I got to do it, you know?

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

It's, you know, they're just listening. I just want to ask you one question.

[David Spade]

We just aren't loud because we don't want to wake them.

[Dennis Leary]

Right.

[David Spade]

Most people are taking naps.

[Dana Carvey]

Go to sleep and don't turn it off and pile through like 20 of our podcasts. Yeah. They don't add up to ad dollars. So my name, I looked it up I before, but I did Again, County Sligo Carvey. In Gaelic, ogarbian means rough or rugged.

[David Spade]

That's a miss.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, that fits.

[Dana Carvey]

Take that, Larry. What's Larry? I looked up Larry.

[Dennis Leary]

It's calf keeper.

[Dana Carvey]

Unusually. Feminism. Feminist. Sorry. I had the joke and I went too far.

[David Spade]

God, you messed it up.

[Dana Carvey]

I. Up.

[Dennis Leary]

But it means calf keeper in actually, in Gaelic.

[David Spade]

Calf.

[Dennis Leary]

Calf. Calf. Like a cow. Calf keeper.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh. Oh, okay.

[Dennis Leary]

We're all farmers in Ireland.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. My people used to beat up cows.

[Dennis Leary]

Oh, really? Because they were so rugged. Hey, let me ask you guys this.

[Dana Carvey]

You can ask anything. Like.

[Dennis Leary]

I know I can. Right. Because I'm a guest.

[Dana Carvey]

Yes.

[Dennis Leary]

So when this thing started, it was just people from Saturday Night Live that were connected because that's, you know, I. I keyed in because I was. I was interested in that. And then.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

So now have you cycled through all

[Dana Carvey]

the SNL people and now you're going to Marcelo Hernandez?

[David Spade]

Yeah, he's.

[Dennis Leary]

I saw parts of that one.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. So we still do have that element. But, you know, you must have auditioned for Saturday Night Live.

[Dennis Leary]

No, never.

[Dana Carvey]

You must have seen it.

[Dennis Leary]

Well, of course I saw it. I didn't. They asked me to host it too, when I first got famous and I had too much respect for what you guys were doing to.

[Dana Carvey]

What year was that?

[David Spade]

Thank you.

[Dennis Leary]

92. 93. They. They. He asked.

[David Spade]

We would have been there.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh.

[Dennis Leary]

Although I know you ended up. You did an impression of me on some bit there.

[David Spade]

Oh, that's right. I did. Right.

[Dennis Leary]

But I was gonna. I knew you. I knew a couple guys there. I knew Quinn and I knew Chris Rock and a couple of people, and I was like, People were doing like. So I had too much respect for that. And also, why on my debt, my week off from making something and doing press would I want instead of just doing a talk show, which is hard enough to make sure you come out funny on the talk show.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

When I want to work my balls

[David Spade]

off for seven days, it's a tough week. Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

Crazy. So I never did.

[David Spade]

It's an honor.

[Dennis Leary]

That's why it's an honor.

[Dana Carvey]

You would have done great. You would have done great. Stand ups, do great. You know these.

[David Spade]

I was the last guy to do a Disney movie where they said it was an honor, and that's why I didn't get a lot of money. And then they came out with Shrek and everyone got 5 million bucks.

[Dennis Leary]

I go, wait, what was the Disney movie you did?

[David Spade]

It's called Emperor's New Groove. I played a llama.

[Dana Carvey]

He got 18,000. I'll send you a movie. Made 100 billion.

[David Spade]

No, I got 75,000, which sounds a lot. It was a lot.

[Dennis Leary]

That's not a lot.

[Dana Carvey]

Not for. It was a big cartoon. It's like three.

[Dennis Leary]

Those ripped you off.

[David Spade]

They rat me.

[Dennis Leary]

Can you say sucker?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, you can say anything. Those.

[David Spade]

No, but you can say rat.

[Dennis Leary]

You can't say, but you can say rat.

[David Spade]

No, I did it. It kept going and going. And I'm like, guys, I don't want to drive out to Disney every day and just lay down an hour or two of trucks. I'm like Dennis Leary. I got to do on my day off.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

And so they're like, it's just gonna be now. We redid the script. I'm doing scenes. I don't even know what's going on. I love the movie now, but I was during it. I was starting to get a little itchy. Gee. Like, I don't know. There's no ending. Yeah, it does. I mean, it did. It was fine. I really love it. But. And then they. They're miracle workers with the freaking animation. You did one, you did Zanzibar. What was it called?

[Dennis Leary]

Matter of fact, I did two. I did Bug's Life.

[David Spade]

An aphid.

[Dennis Leary]

What?

[David Spade]

I don't know. What is that? You played an aphid. I'm trying to think of Bug.

[Dennis Leary]

I played a ladybug.

[Dana Carvey]

Is that Jerry Seinfeld's movie? Was that Jerry's movie?

[David Spade]

That's An Ant's Life.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh. Oh, okay. Yeah, it was a rip off.

[Dennis Leary]

Jerry was bees.

[David Spade]

Oh, he was a bee. That's right.

[Dana Carvey]

Insect. So what were you, by the way?

[Dennis Leary]

I should take this opportunity. Since we brought it up, Ice Age 6 is coming out next year.

[David Spade]

There is not an Ice Age.

[Dennis Leary]

I swear to God,

[Dana Carvey]

Ray Romano is gonna get another check.

[David Spade]

No, that's Madagascar, I think.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, okay.

[David Spade]

No, that is.

[Dennis Leary]

I say Legazamo.

[Dana Carvey]

And, yeah, you don't have to go into numbers. Maybe it's rude, but you're a lion. Did you get a bump? Did you get a bump for this one?

[Dennis Leary]

We got bumps for all of them. So basically a bigger. They didn't know this, but I guess they were discussing. You know, the problem is these movies, and it's a plus. It's not a problem. They're getting streamed like crazy. So. So now they can see the numbers of what's really streaming. So the Ice Age movies, apparently by adults and kids, were getting streamed like crazy. Ray and I were making a TV show for Netflix together at the time. This is like two years Ago called no Good Deed. So we were working together every day. I was playing his brother and. And we both came into work one morning in the makeup trailer and we're like, hey, did your agent call you that? I was like, yeah, my agent called me. They didn't know that we were working together and they wanted to start negotiations with me and Ray and Leguizamo to see if we would be interested in doing it. So we did the right thing, which was like we basically all three of us said, hey, we need to see the script and, you know, make sure it's. That, you know, it's not just. It's going to be good, you know,

[Dana Carvey]

play hard to get.

[Dennis Leary]

Play hard to get. Plus, we need a lot of money. So it worked out.

[David Spade]

And did Netflix buy it off of what, DreamWorks or whatever it was?

[Dennis Leary]

No, I don't know who owns it now.

[David Spade]

I know because, you know, they're. They do movies now where like Happy Gilmore. They. I think they bought it off of Sony. I mean, I don't know.

[Dennis Leary]

Did they really that the most recent Happy Gilmore?

[David Spade]

Yeah, because they done Netflix and the first one was Sony.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah. That thing is such a monster, man. Yeah, it's a monster movie. Right? So, yeah, of course they pay for it. Everybody saw it.

[David Spade]

If they can. Yeah, if they can do it, they go, oh, now there's a breakthrough. We can buy movies we never had.

[Dennis Leary]

Well, now they're doing. They. Sandler signed with them pretty early about that stuff, which makes sense because. Yeah, right. By the way, how about the actor Sandler has turned himself into? I mean, it's un. Believable.

[Dana Carvey]

SAF1 hidden. What was it? Gems?

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

I mean, he's really turned himself into a great character actor, but at the same time, he's going to make funny movies that the whole world sees. So why wouldn't you want that guy in your lineup? This goes back to the reality. There's no more movies anymore. It's all street.

[Dana Carvey]

No movies or movies don't really.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

I mean, just why they make anything besides a cartoon or a big action movie.

[Dennis Leary]

That's it.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Well, the competition. I have a low budget movie and we're trying to figure out what to do with it. And we're like, do you even want to try theaters? Everyone seems like that sounds so fun, but I go, you don't want to get smoked by the Avengers.

[Dennis Leary]

I mean, you, you're not gonna.

[David Spade]

How would you compete with anything?

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, you want to be streaming more people will see your movie. On a Friday night than we'll see it. If you ran it in the theaters

[David Spade]

combined, I mean, just romance of like, oh, I'm in the theater, but I've had theaters and I've had streaming. Streaming. It goes worldwide in one second. It's out.

[Dana Carvey]

If you don't have the advertising budget, then there's going to be three people in there and nothing will. Any comedy will bomb. Saddles would have bombed. It was just two people.

[Dennis Leary]

Listen, who's gonna go. Who's gonna go to the theater? Who are they gonna go see? Tom Cruise, right? Still apparently fucking big Marvel movies, which are again, they're on the Wayne as well. And then you get. Every once while you get that if Spielberg has a big movie, an action

[Dana Carvey]

movie, he's got one coming out somewhere.

[David Spade]

I'm going, yeah, yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

So I mean, otherwise you might as well be fucking, you know, streaming.

[David Spade]

Because I like the theater. And about five, seven years ago is the first time I had walked out on some clankers. And I usually would just go for the whole fun of going. And then you buy all the shit and you sit in the back and you watch. I just liked it all. And then suddenly the movies were too shitty. I don't know what happened. At a certain point I go, I can't do the whole two and a half hours. Because sometimes they really rat you with a long movie and you go get in and out. You don't need to.

[Dennis Leary]

What are you doing? 90 minutes for a comedy? Come on. Right?

[Dana Carvey]

80, 80. And then you do the outtakes for 10.

[Dennis Leary]

What are we doing? Two and a half hour movies? You know, very few people can get away with that.

[Dana Carvey]

Christopher Nolan will, you know, there's certain people, you kind of go, I got to see that.

[David Spade]

But it is.

[Dana Carvey]

I have this problem. But I watch movies at home and then my wife's got her phone and it's a chain with her family thing. You know, the dinner bell, you know, it's the death scene or whatever, they're attacked. So I do like once in a while, a dark theater. It's dead empty. I'm sitting in the back, I turn everything off and it doesn't even matter as long as there's some things moving around. It's meditative. It's like all the noise. Only in church or a movie theater do they ask you. Or maybe through. Even on takeoff, I see people on their iPhone in a plane, you know.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Anyway, comment.

[Dennis Leary]

How about the thing you're not allowed in my house? If you're at my house, this goes for my kids. Although my son and my daughter are pretty respectful because they're in the business of, like, they're not going to watch a Scorsese movie on a iPhone. How many. How many times you've been in an airport and see walk by some guys watching Goodfellas on an iPhone?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

I mean, what are you wearing? Their iPad, Apocalypse Now.

[Dana Carvey]

It's really good, man. There's a lot of helicopters.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah. You're not. You can't have your phone, you know, going at the.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

Like, when I watch the Super Bowl. I watch the Super Bowl. You're not talking about other around me while I'm watching the Super Bowl. Okay. Even during the halftime show, you could maybe talk a little, but I'm. I'm watching the game. Okay. So I'm not.

[Dana Carvey]

I totally agree. I don't want to. Yeah. Be where a lot of people are talking about other topics. It's third and long. This is, you know.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Spade]

The problem is I have so much football knowledge, I sometimes bless the people with couple things like the refs missed that one. I say stuff like that.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Spade]

Everyone appreciates it.

[Dana Carvey]

He's got no protection.

[David Spade]

What's that?

[Dennis Leary]

You watch yesterday?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

You mean four months ago when the super bowl was.

[Dana Carvey]

We're releasing this episode in July, but it's the super bowl, and, yes, we did watch it.

[David Spade]

I saw it.

[Dennis Leary]

I like Bad Bunny. I'm not a. I don't. I'm not a Bad Bunny fan. I don't own any of his music, but I like the show.

[Dana Carvey]

You like Bad Bunny, and you can't like that bunny. Yeah. You know, it was theatrical. It was like.

[Dennis Leary]

I was so tempted to go see how bad the alternative show was with Kid Rock and the three country stars nobody outside of Nashville's ever heard of. I was like, who are these guys? I like some country music. Who the. Who the are these guys?

[David Spade]

I have to say, if you got a big show, get your biggest. Get Carrie Underwood in there. Get. Yeah, get somebody we've heard of. I have a piece of trivia that Dana, I shouldn't tell you about.

[Dana Carvey]

I was just gonna pitch an alternative Oscar, live stream it. If you don't want to watch the Oscars, watch us three talking about the movies. Go ahead, David.

[Dennis Leary]

Sorry. That's not a bad idea. After the opening monologue. I'm only interested because I'm interested in comedian doing the model. Then I don't give a.

[Dana Carvey]

Because you've seen all the movies that are going to be up for awesome. Right.

[Dennis Leary]

You know We've all been at these award show. You. I think I was at the Emmys one year when you hosted. Like, it takes forever. Even when you're there. It sucks. Right, Right. So an alternative broadcast is really funny, like, like a Manning cast of the Emmys and the Oscars where, like, the three of us are making comments about what's going on on the show.

[David Spade]

If you're allowed to do that, anything where you can comment is genius because that's all people do in the living room.

[Dennis Leary]

I think we have a idea here.

[David Spade]

It's possible.

[Dennis Leary]

Doesn't have to be the three of us, but three comedians comment on the Golden Globes or the Emmys or the Oscars as they're happening.

[Dana Carvey]

That has got to have been done before.

[David Spade]

I don't know why they haven't done that, because that's every living room. But I think the problem is licensing to show a show.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[David Spade]

But if you. I looked into this a little bit because that old Mystery Science Theater I liked.

[Dennis Leary]

Yes.

[David Spade]

And the reason why they did old shitty movies is because that's the only one they could clear.

[Dennis Leary]

Right, Right.

[David Spade]

So I'm. I'm losing you guys with this showbiz lingo. But clearing means. How do I explain it? Anyway, so it would be really fun to do that. And I. Here's my trivia about the halftime show, Dana, which I'll tell you again this week on.

[Dennis Leary]

When we do our.

[Dana Carvey]

I want to hear the bushes during

[David Spade]

Bad Bunny were people.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, really?

[David Spade]

They were people in bush costumes.

[Dennis Leary]

No, they weren't.

[David Spade]

And at the end, I saw a video. They're all walking off. All the bushes are walking.

[Dana Carvey]

AI, man, AI.

[David Spade]

I think it's real.

[Dana Carvey]

Let's look it up. Heather. Greg,

[David Spade]

we'll save that for this week.

[Dennis Leary]

You know what I find? I find really interesting is that that Spade and you. I mean, how did that partnership come about? I mean, I know the SNL connection, but whose idea was it? Which one of you said to the other, hey, what if we did?

[David Spade]

Well, I was having dinner with Dana once in a while in la because Dana was a favorite and a bud from the old days. Always the.

[Dana Carvey]

We started going to dinner restaurant, and

[David Spade]

he didn't live here. And then when he was. I realized he was near me. I said, hey, you want to go eat? And he would come and we'd have a beer and. And we'd always get around to SNL stuff because we all know all our friends and.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Spade]

And I was in the. I wanted to try a podcast a long Time ago, I just couldn't figure out someone to do it with. And somehow with Dane and I talking, of course it would take Dana doing it, but I would rather have someone like Dana that, you know, you get someone famous or you could do it with someone totally unknown. It's like a sidekick that just. And you just talk pretty much.

[Dennis Leary]

Right.

[David Spade]

But if Dana was good talker, hysterical. And then we just said, well, maybe we should try something like this. And that was the fun. Because he gets someone that's a home run hitter here.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, it was also in the treadling days of like, you know, Conan came in and other people and Rogan became humongous and was like this podcasting thing is like, is, you know, because for a long time it's like, well, is there any money in it? Because I did one without a company. It was just called Fantastic Available and it was just for fun. And David came on that and it was really fun to bounce off stuff with.

[David Spade]

Oh, that was sort of like a pilot. Because once we did that, we're like, this is funny. We're just around.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, that was the key, right? Was that you bounce funny. So the thing was funny.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, yeah. And just, you know, we're friends, you know, so it's like we don't have to pretend or we're put together by some kind of conglomerate, you know, now

[David Spade]

we work for a conglomerate and you're

[Dana Carvey]

too busy to do a podcast.

[Dennis Leary]

No, I. First of all, I don't have the. People have asked me, but again, I don't have the. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, I don't have the time because I'm always on location or whatever. But I was like, I don't. I was like you. I'm like, I don't want to do it unless it's going to be something funny. I. I don't want to just talk. No offense. I don't want to talk to people if it's not going to be fun.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

new season of scrubs Wednesdays at 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu.

[Dennis Leary]

Amazon presents Jamal vs. The Shih Tzu descending from the gray Wolf Shih Tzus live by their own untamed primal code of not giving a single shit sue. But Jamal shopped on Amazon and bought dog treats, chew toys, and 32 ounces of carpet cleaner. Hey, Jamal, you've been promoted to pack leader. Save the everyday with Amazon.

[David Spade]

Oh, I want to hear why now. You guys shoot in Ireland? Is that fun to shoot?

[Dana Carvey]

Going Dutch is on.

[Dennis Leary]

It's on Hulu. Okay. More people watch on Hulu than they do on.

[David Spade]

Is that true?

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, because the linear world is, you know, linear.

[Dana Carvey]

Linear.

[Dennis Leary]

Linear television is just an excuse for sports now. So, you know, it's like, Hulu is where you live. Right.

[Dana Carvey]

Sports dominates everything.

[Dennis Leary]

I mean everything.

[Dana Carvey]

Because it's live. And everything else is like. Yeah, I'll get to it next time.

[David Spade]

That's why Netflix wants live stuff, because they go live is really the best thing. You can't.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah. They pay the guy to climb a building.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

Not enough, by the way. They didn't pay him enough.

[David Spade]

We talked about that. It was.

[Dennis Leary]

I saw you guys talking about it. You guys.

[Dana Carvey]

But okay. Just because.

[Dennis Leary]

How does the guy not get a. At least a million?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

I was gonna kick in.

[Dennis Leary]

I thought your idea was funny that you. But you guys were like, I'll go up in the elevator.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

20 minutes to stand up there.

[David Spade]

Corporate gig. Give me a corporate gig. I'll go close to the window and look out for five minutes. That's scary.

[Dennis Leary]

I'll go all the way up to the top. Not gonna go outside, but I'll sing the song in the top of the building.

[David Spade]

15k cash, no tax.

[Dennis Leary]

Okay, 15.

[Dana Carvey]

That. I will go to the town. I'll look at this thing. Group binoculars.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Say three Hail Marys.

[Dennis Leary]

Okay. You pay that guy, right? You pay him 400,000 to go to the climb to the top. I will be across on another building outside, but, like, with a railing. And I will sing the song. Y. I'll go up for 600.

[David Spade]

The escalator. Cheesecake Factory. In Uggs. They're not that grippy.

[Dana Carvey]

I will sing the song.

[David Spade]

I know the song I have to offer. It's part of it.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Without that. It. The no deal.

[Dana Carvey]

Anyway, this show. Because you're. They're gonna ask you later. I mean, this show going Dutch. You're like this patent. I saw some of your stuff. You like this military or army colonel goes to the Netherlands where there's his outlier base, and they're like Gomer Pyle. Or it's dysfunctional and you gotta whip him into shape and it's filmed in Ireland.

[David Spade]

Yes, I was gonna say go to the Netherlands to a studio because you're Irish.

[Dennis Leary]

No, the problem is, I know it's financial, so it's. No, it's based on a real base. They actually existed. So the showrunner is this guy, Joel Church Cooper, brilliant writer. He did Brock Meyer with Hank.

[Dana Carvey]

His area.

[Dennis Leary]

Right. Oh, yeah, I was a huge fan of. So he. He approached us about, like, wanting to work together. And it's like, yeah. He said, listen, I know a guy that was stationed at this base, this American base in the Netherlands, that the only reason it existed was to do the laundry for the other 32 NATO bases in Europe and to deliver wine and cheese to each base.

[Dana Carvey]

Right.

[Dennis Leary]

But because it was in the Netherlands, you have to hire a certain amount of Dutch citizens to work on the base. Prostitution is legal and drugs are legal. So what ended up happening was, of course, is it became a den for, you know, for illegal drugs and. And which you can't blame them. So they shut the base down. This guy was. Was stationed there, this advisor that we had. So we loved the idea. We didn't want to shoot anywhere near the Dutch government or the American military base that had been shut down. So Ireland looks just like the Netherlands in terms of the land and the color of the landscape and the weather. So. And Ireland has a thriving film and TV industry. So it was a double plus for me because that's where my parents are from and that's. I have like 150 cousins there. So it was. It was a blast. It's always a blast to go back there because my cousins come and visit the set. My cousins, like, walk on the set and they're like, hey, I know the dp. I went to high school with him. You know, so it's like the country's small, you know, and they gave us a military base for us to shoot at.

[Dana Carvey]

I mean, Rob Lowe told us that his. His game show the Floor.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah. Shoots there.

[Dana Carvey]

It shoots there. It. It's still cheaper. I think it's 700 people or whatever. I mean, it's hundreds of American citizens. They fly to Ireland, put them up for months, and it's still exponentially cheaper than Hollywood. What's.

[David Spade]

Is it because of all the strikes where everything's so expensive?

[Dennis Leary]

No, it's because of the union rules. Right. So. But it's also because everybody gives tax break. I mean, Boston gives tax breaks. Atlanta huge. You know, New Orleans.

[David Spade]

I don't la. Give tax rate because I. We did both Grown ups movies in Boston. Oh, a couple people remember. Thank you. And so we went to Swamp Squat Swamps.

[Dennis Leary]

By the way, I saw both Grownups movies multiple times because I liked them and I knew a bunch of you guys, so I was like, I'm gonna watch this. But then my kids were like, oh, Adam Sandler, the Grown Ups.

[David Spade]

Yeah. That's a fun one for families. It's a good family movie, actually.

[Dana Carvey]

How much things have changed that in the first Grown Ups, the reviews and the way they used to. Our friend Adam again, the way they would just. On Adam Sandler for so long. And we all knew he was brilliant. And he's not trying to make Apocalypse Now. He's making a family comedy. I. I sent him a text to go, no, this is a really, really great, funny movie. Not that he needed it, but yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

He goes, no, first of all, this, by the way, Murderers Row of people in both those movies are the cast, right? Yeah, every single person. Because. And I know it's Saturday Night Live heavy, but who gives a fuck? Everybody's a fucking killer who comes into the. Into the cast. So number one, number two, they're funny movies. Number three, now he's. It's the Last laugh is on them because he's turned into a great actor and he can make big funny movies.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, yeah. He can speak and do both.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know if you guys saw J. Kelly, the movie with.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

Where he's playing the manager man. It's. He's side by side with a true hall of Fame movie star. A guy that can do anything.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Dennis Leary]

And they're Sandler.

[David Spade]

I think they're finally coming around. It's taken forever, but they're all finally. Like, he was at the Santa Barbara Film Festival this weekend. I'm like, yeah, finally. And it must be. It's just. I'm sure he feels weird about it. Like, where were you guys? Like, you just stepped on his neck for so long.

[Dana Carvey]

There's a herd mentality.

[David Spade]

Yeah, it's a herd mentality for sure.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, and it goes like that. How are your reviews throughout your time? I don't know. What? Were they pretty?

[Dennis Leary]

They were. They were. They were great. I get. Well, they were great for no cure for cancer. They were great. You know, when I. For certain movies like the Ref, which is still a great movie.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

But I did. I had to learn how to act as I first became famous because I was a theater actor and I didn't have a lot of experience in front of the camera. So I made, you know, I, I made, like, the Sandlot, which was the first movie I did, but I did that movie because I thought, like, oh, I could. This is a different part for me. And I'll. This will help me learn how to act on camera because it's very small in terms of performance, in terms of the size of the performance. And then I did, like, fucking. Because I had two kids. I, you know, I was. Again, no credit cards when I first got famous and I had two babies. So I was like, I did Demolition

[David Spade]

man with Bucking Stallone and Schneider.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I love Stallone.

[Dennis Leary]

I, I, you know what? He was the nicest guy.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah. He's old school. He would never. He was such a pro, you know, I liked your thing, you know, no, kill for cancer. You know what I'm talking about?

[Dennis Leary]

He's what. He was such a mens.

[David Spade]

And he.

[Dennis Leary]

I've told this story before, but, like, I was. I'm fresh off the tree, right?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

And I just did a tiny little baseball movie with a bunch of kids. And, and I go the first day on, on Demolition man to do the costume changes. And so they go, you're going to go into the. I think it was Warner Brothers. You're going to go on the lot. They're going to show you the outfits and everything, and you're going to meet Sly. He's going to be there. And I was like, oh, great. So I go, and, you know, it's all science fiction. So they put me in this metallic, stupid.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

And then they go, hey, Sly, Slice here. And he wants you to go up down the, you know, a couple stages down. He wants to say hi. So I'm. I'm in science fiction, demolition gear.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

And I, when I first pulled in, I saw this giant batting cage, like, off in the distance. And I was like, I wonder why they have a batting case. Well, now I'm walking and I turn this corner with this pa and he's like, yeah, he's right here. And it's a giant fucking net for driving golf balls. And Stallone is in his Demolition man outfit with the boots and everything. And there's a golf pro guy dressed like a golf pro, and he's just driving both again. I'm slicing again

[Dana Carvey]

pretty good.

[Dennis Leary]

Awesome. And he's like, hey, Dennis, it's nice to meet you. Hey, let me tell you something. When we're shooting, this guy's with me all the time. You want to, you want to hit some balls, get some lessons. This is the every.

[David Spade]

They're always on the Set every day,

[Dana Carvey]

every night for anybody. A golf pro.

[Dennis Leary]

We shot in a shopping mall, like 30 minutes from LA. The golf pros there. Yeah, you shoot on the lot. The golf. Every day. The golf pro was there.

[Dana Carvey]

Fantastic.

[David Spade]

It was Sandy Bullock in that.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

She replaced.

[David Spade]

Look at me.

[Dennis Leary]

We had to shut the movie down to replace. Lori Petty was the girl who played her first and then.

[David Spade]

Really?

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Interesting.

[David Spade]

What happened from Tank Girl?

[Dennis Leary]

I don't know. I mean, I went to work one day.

[David Spade]

Tell us the story.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, What? What?

[David Spade]

I. I said, Dennis, tell us the story.

[Dennis Leary]

You do have the story.

[David Spade]

No, I'm kidding.

[Dennis Leary]

I wish.

[Dana Carvey]

We're looking for a banger. We're looking for.

[David Spade]

Listen, if you land on. Says Sandra Bullock, you're fine.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, dude. It was such a huge paycheck, sweetheart. You know, one day we went to work and they're like, all right, we're going to end up going over. Everybody had penalties written into their contract. Again, this is my first, like, big Hollywood paycheck. And they go, sly fucking. He was hitting golf ball so hard, he busted a fucking

[Dana Carvey]

break.

[Dennis Leary]

And. And we're. So. We're taking three weeks off, but you're going to get paid. And I was like, awesome.

[David Spade]

Yeah, Love it.

[Dennis Leary]

A three week vacation where I got paid because Stallone was trying to kill the golf ball.

[David Spade]

You're not even supposed to be doing anything when you're doing it.

[Dana Carvey]

Was Rob Schneider in that, too?

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Give me a club.

[Dana Carvey]

What are they doing? These aliens are attacking us.

[David Spade]

Sir, you got a seven iron.

[Dennis Leary]

I think he was. Was it Rob? Like his character was like he was in an office, so. Yeah, like his character on snl.

[David Spade]

Oh, and then he got copy machine

[Dana Carvey]

guy and then turned away with the action or something. A regular guy.

[Dennis Leary]

Hang on a second. My dog's.

[David Spade]

Yeah. What? I think you're having a break in my.

[Dennis Leary]

My wife is coming home from shopping, so the dog's going crazy.

[David Spade]

That's. All right. Well, you're done anyway. But we were just saying Suicide Kings, Draft day. He's got some bangers in here, man.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, you've had quite a. Quite a time. I. The only last question I have for you is, when was the first time? Because you're with the original wife, you know, so the before wife.

[Dennis Leary]

So are you, Right?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. And so there's a given time where it's like, you know, you're having success and you're starting to make money, like real money, and you're sort of like, I guess we're kind of rich. Now you. You weren't rich, but in relative terms, I don't know when that happened for you, where you went. We're making a lot of money right now. It's kind of a heady thing that happens to people, get successful in show business.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, it was the first. Well, that was right around that period because it went so from 0 to 60 so quick.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Dennis Leary]

I did that sandlot movie, the. You know.

[Dana Carvey]

So you got paid for that?

[Dennis Leary]

Well, I got paid for that, but then because of the rushes, there was. There was a good word of mouth on that movie.

[David Spade]

Oh, they like the dailies and previews.

[Dennis Leary]

So now they know I can act. So they're like, you know, Jeffrey Katzenberg was running all those branches of Disney movies at the time, Touchstone. So he was like. We had this script called the Ref, which was written by a friend of mine, Richard Lagravity's, who had already been nominated for an Oscar for that Robin Williams movie, the Fisher King. Okay. So it was a Oscar nominated writer, Ted Demmer, one of my best friends, who was buddies. Yeah, yeah. He did my TV spots. So we had. We had that script. So not only did they want us to make that movie, but they gave me and Ted deals, like three picture deals.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Dennis Leary]

Automatically there's just a ton of money. And then I'm doing like Demolition Man, Judgment Night, you know, all these big movies. So, like, we had a lot of money all of a sudden from having nothing.

[Dana Carvey]

Right? Yeah. How it happens.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah. So. And it was great. And I was learning how to. To act as I went along. So I'm like, this is. I knew I wanted to be like a character actor because that had longevity because I knew the standup you can always do. Right?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. You can always go back to it.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, exactly. So. And I was getting to work with like, you know, you guys know that it's like you're working with your heroes.

[David Spade]

Yeah. So fun.

[Dana Carvey]

Or meeting them, for sure.

[Dennis Leary]

Guys, I gotta tell you, one of the. I met so many fucking and worked with so many of my heroes. But the guy, I gotta tell you. You guys know this to be true. I did this movie called Small Soldiers with Phil Hartman, of course. And Small Soldiers was like, you know, it's a lot of.

[Dana Carvey]

That's right.

[Dennis Leary]

Generated dolls, right?

[Dana Carvey]

Yes.

[Dennis Leary]

And the rest of the movie is live human beings. So me, Jay Moore, David Cross and Phil. Those are like the four male leads, right?

[Dana Carvey]

Hilarious people.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah, Phil. I mean, duty. And the director was Joe Dante, and he wanted us to improvise and stuff. And Play around. We. That guy made us laugh sometimes. He was making me laugh so hard while we were shooting the scenes, the director would go, you guys have to leave act to a tennis ball. Because we couldn't stop laughing.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Phil. I could see Phil in that character, really knowing how to just improvise it.

[Dennis Leary]

He was so funny.

[Dana Carvey]

Dude, that's awesome.

[Dennis Leary]

And you know, like, one of my favorite characters he did was unfrozen caveman reference.

[Dana Carvey]

That frequently is like, yeah, it's so funny. Brilliance. It's so too. But it. It never leaves your head.

[Dennis Leary]

It's so. And. And once I told him that was my favorite guy, like, there was a lot of characters. I love this. But I just said, like, I think that's my favorite. He would just break that guy out on set.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. I'm but a simple caveman.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

So straight. And it's very. Jack Handy, the writer who write.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Writes in such a different lane than anybody.

[Dennis Leary]

Yeah. Also a great actor, man.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dennis Leary]

Great actor.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, great. Yeah, yeah, Absolutely. You do it all.

[Dennis Leary]

He made me laugh so hard as you guys do.

[David Spade]

Hey, guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app, give us a review, five star rating, and maybe even share an episode that you've loved with a friend.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey and executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman, Maddie Sprung Kaiser and Leah Reese Dennis of Odyssey.

[Dana Carvey]

Our senior producer is Greg Holtzman and the show is produced and edited by

[David Spade]

Phil Sweet, tech booking by Cultivated Entertainment.

[Dana Carvey]

Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura K. Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kurt Courtney, and Lauren Vieira.

[David Spade]

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