Jim Jefferies - Pioneer of the "C" Word

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade Episode: Jim Jefferies - Pioneer of the "C" Word
Release Date: July 3, 2025

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Introduction to the Episode

In this engaging episode of Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade, the longtime hosts Dana Carvey and David Spade welcome Australian comedian Jim Jefferies. The trio delves deep into Jim's groundbreaking approach to comedy, his personal life, and his experiences navigating the worlds of entertainment across different continents.

Jim Jefferies: Breaking Barriers in Comedy

Jim Jefferies opens the conversation by highlighting his role in pushing comedic boundaries, particularly concerning the use of explicit language. He humorously refers to himself as "the Rosa Parks of the C word," emphasizing his pioneering efforts to bring taboo subjects into mainstream comedy.

Jim Jefferies [07:08]: "I've always said I'm the Rosa Parks of the C word, right?"

This bold stance set Jim apart in the American comedy scene, allowing him to address sensitive topics with a candidness that resonated with audiences.

Creative Ventures and Sitcom Pitches

The discussion takes a humorous turn as Jim shares his creative ideas for a sitcom. One notable pitch involves a fictional plot where Dana Carvey's house is accidentally burned down, showcasing Jim's irreverent and edgy humor.

Jim Jefferies [17:57]: "I've got full scripts. I wrote the whole thing out. I thought it was a premise."

Despite the comedic brilliance of the idea, Jim admits that the show concept didn’t get picked up, adding a layer of self-deprecating humor to the conversation.

Cultural Differences in Comedy: Australia vs. US vs. UK

Jim provides insightful commentary on how comedy varies across cultures. He notes that while Australian comedians like himself might find success abroad, they often encounter different audience reactions and heckling styles.

Jim Jefferies [15:27]: "The British were the loosest country for comedy that I performed."

He contrasts this with the American approach, where heckling tends to be more confrontational, versus the UK's more playful attempts to out-joke performers.

Early Life and Performing Arts Background

Delving into his past, Jim recounts his journey from studying musical theater and opera in Australia to discovering his passion for stand-up comedy. His diverse background enriches his comedic style, blending musical talents with sharp, unfiltered humor.

Jim Jefferies [40:04]: "I studied musical theater and I would like to..."

Despite his strong foundation in the performing arts, Jim candidly discusses the challenges he faced, including vocal strain from performing and his eventual pivot to stand-up comedy.

Struggles with Substance Abuse and Path to Recovery

A poignant segment of the episode covers Jim's battle with substance abuse. He openly shares his experiences with alcohol and cocaine, reflecting on the impact these struggles had on his personal and professional life.

Jim Jefferies [35:07]: "I don't miss any of it. Not at all."

Jim emphasizes the importance of sobriety, attributing his recovery to the birth of his son and expressing regret over his past behaviors. This vulnerability adds depth to his public persona, showcasing his resilience and commitment to personal growth.

Tours and Global Comedy Scene

Jim also discusses his international comedy tours, highlighting differences in audience engagement and logistical challenges. He expresses admiration for the British comedy circuit's efficiency, where close-knit cities allow for seamless touring without extensive travel.

Jim Jefferies [26:12]: "The British comedy circuit I think is the best in the world because the cities are so close together."

This section underscores Jim's adaptability and his appreciation for diverse comedic landscapes.

Personal Anecdotes and Humor

Throughout the episode, Jim shares various humorous anecdotes, including his experiences with celebrities like Russell Crowe and Margot Robbie. These stories not only entertain but also provide insight into the interconnectedness of the entertainment industry.

Dana Carvey [32:43]: "Hugh Jackman and Margot Robbie... you can't get better than those two."

Jim's ability to weave personal stories with comedic flair exemplifies his skill as a performer and storyteller.

Closing Thoughts and Future Endeavors

As the conversation wraps up, Dana and David commend Jim for his candidness and comedic prowess. They discuss potential future collaborations and express excitement about Jim's upcoming projects, including his new stand-up specials.

Dana Carvey [60:32]: "Very much enjoyable."

Jim leaves listeners with a sense of anticipation for his future work, promising more laughter and insightful commentary.

Notable Quotes

• Jim Jefferies [07:08]: "I've always said I'm the Rosa Parks of the C word, right?"
• Jim Jefferies [17:57]: "I've got full scripts. I wrote the whole thing out. I thought it was a premise."
• Jim Jefferies [15:27]: "The British were the loosest country for comedy that I performed."
• Jim Jefferies [40:04]: "I studied musical theater and I would like to..."
• Jim Jefferies [35:07]: "I don't miss any of it. Not at all."

Conclusion

This episode of Fly on the Wall offers a captivating glimpse into Jim Jefferies' life and career. From his trailblazing use of language in comedy to his personal battles and triumphs, Jim provides a multifaceted perspective that is both entertaining and inspiring. Dana Carvey and David Spade facilitate a relaxed and humorous environment, allowing Jim's authentic voice to shine through. Whether you're a long-time fan or new to his work, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intricacies of modern comedy.

Transcript

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, I think the thing that for me early on was just saying a lot was the big difference from the American act. I've always said I'm the Rosa Parks of the C word, right? Yeah. Burning down Dana Carvey's house did not get picked up.

[Dana Carvey]

And they go quickly.

[David Spade]

Any other just quick pitches for season three or is that the one we're going with?

[Jim Jeffries]

If the aliens came down and they said give us your two best, not just looking, just your best human beings and we gave them Hugh Jackman and Margot Robbie. Come on now, you can't get better than those two.

[David Spade]

That's true.

[Dana Carvey]

What's with this?

[David Spade]

You like?

[Dana Carvey]

Kind of.

[Jim Jeffries]

Okay.

[David Spade]

Welcome to Fly in the wild, partner. Which is a. It's sort of been thrown together. Year seven. We almost worked the bugs out. This is Dana and we're going to.

[Dana Carvey]

Tell you we've resolved an issue because we had Superfly fly in the wall. And I know someone personally who had a mental breakdown because she could not process it and she went into a instit a brief period of time. I talked to her last week and.

[David Spade]

The funny thing, I just never understood.

[Dana Carvey]

Superfly Fl what's the difference? I never can do it. And I shook her. I said David Spade solves all problems. Slapped her face and she goes, I feel so much better.

[David Spade]

You know, I have friends. They finally figured it out and now we switched it. What? They finally figured out how to do Superfly in the other one and then we switched it. So everyone's confused. It'll take a few years and then everyone's going to get it. But I will tell you 2037, I have a quick story that I have a question about fourth of July. And I think because I saw some Joe Dirt, it's kind of a Joe Dirt holiday, this one. This is where I get the most Joe Dirt Summer.

[Dana Carvey]

And of course with unfolded in that.

[David Spade]

As a Joe Dirt holiday sort of baked in. Right.

[Dana Carvey]

David Spade summer, but Joe Dirt.

[David Spade]

So I feel like I want to get a big company to do Joe Dirt fireworks and have the spleen splitters, the whisker biscuits and all those things.

[Dana Carvey]

I think that'd be funny.

[David Spade]

It'd be funny at the end.

[Dana Carvey]

It's fireworks, but it goes into a whole gigantic Joe Dirt image.

[David Spade]

I mean, in a perfect world.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Spade]

We'll say that it won't do that, but we'll say it could do that. And also just the Roman candles. Just a shoo, shoo. Roman candles are great. A couple black cats, you know, do a mixed bag because I've seen some fake lingo.

[Dana Carvey]

What are you, a fireworks specialist?

[David Spade]

I'll show you a clip of the movie, but Pistol Pete. Pistol Pete, what are your favorite firecrackers.

[Jim Jeffries]

When you grew up?

[David Spade]

Do you remember any?

[Dana Carvey]

The actual firecracker was fun. My friends and I were in a Volkswagen bug, and we were going around town smoking weed, high school, throwing firecrackers out the window. So we're lighting them and throwing them. Lighting them and throwing them. I see someone in the front seat. They're lighting and throwing them. I see the other person rolling up the window. So the guy literally lit the firecracker, the window closed. And then I'm three, two.

[David Spade]

And then everyone goes, I've done it with gum stunk right in the window.

[Dana Carvey]

And I go, heather, is this airing before. After 4th of July? It's airing right after day before.

[David Spade]

It is. Okay.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, all right.

[David Spade]

That's still good.

[Dana Carvey]

What's. Okay, I have another.

[David Spade]

I want to ask. You have another firecracker story. There cannot be another fourth of July storm. Okay, go ahead.

[Dana Carvey]

We're up in the peninsula, and Candlestick park is blowing off up there. The San Francisco giants blowing off fireworks. And we're down in the peninsula, and we're looking up. And I said, look, em candle. So my friends, again, were pretty high. So they laughed for, like, two hours. Look, em. Kendall. And then when a friend would go down to grab his beer or water or something, you'd always say, oh, you just missed it. That became our running.

[David Spade]

That's not a big.

[Dana Carvey]

You just missed the best one.

[David Spade]

Best one. I always think the last one is not, you know, like, I go, that's. Last one's got to be. And then there's more.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, that's just funny when they're like. And then it's fading out. Okay. And then they go, yo, it's got to be the finale. Wait a second. Then another buildup, you know. Good. You got the sound effects. That helps it.

[David Spade]

All right. Puff daddy trial. Puff day trial. Okay. What would here.

[Dana Carvey]

And now. We're going with the Scooby news, brought to you by scooby doo and Casey case. I'm starring as Shaggy.

[David Spade]

Yeah. So catch us up.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, you know, P. Diddy's trial is resting, Scoop. Okay, you do the talk. P. Diddy's trial is resting. Scoop apparently had a thousand bottles of baby oil. No one knew what he was doing with them, Scoob. What do you think they were doing? What? We can't say that on a podcast. PG13 podcast. I said, oh, yeah, I understand what you're saying, Scoob, but I don't ever want to go to a freak off at P. Diddy's. Now let's make, like, a banana and split.

[David Spade]

Zoinks.

[Dana Carvey]

Yoinks who?

[David Spade]

There's a pastrami.

[Dana Carvey]

Phil's over the going, what did I sign up for?

[David Spade]

He knows this place. He goes, this isn't the real thing.

[Dana Carvey]

When do the real guys come in? I think it's not the A team.

[David Spade]

If Puff Daddy gets off, which he might have by this time, his ego.

[Dana Carvey]

Will be puffed up.

[David Spade]

There's a lot of people that want him to get off. They just say, oh, they want him to get off. They want to beat the court system. Those guys, they're just trying to hassle Puff.

[Jim Jeffries]

He's great.

[David Spade]

And he'll run out and be such king because he'll be like, now everyone knows what I do. So if you're actively joining in, you get it and you're in. So that will happen. Will he go to prison? I'd say the odds right now are against him going to prison, but I don't know everything. What do you think?

[Dana Carvey]

Like we said, it's illegal to have a freak off with baby oil. Was it consensual or, you know, even.

[David Spade]

When people say it wasn't consensual?

[Dana Carvey]

In another interesting court case, shockingly, the Idaho Killer.

[David Spade]

Oh, that.

[Dana Carvey]

Wants a committed guilt if he can have life in prison. And I don't know why everyone thought he was guilty, but his photo looked like this.

[David Spade]

He's terrifying, by the way.

[Dana Carvey]

I would never do that to anybody.

[David Spade]

I like when they have all these new things, like they owe. But we pinged your phone right where the murders were. He's like, what? Well, you can.

[Dana Carvey]

I can't believe it. The Idaho Killer says he's guilty. No one ever looked that guilty. Do you see the picture, Scoop?

[David Spade]

Oh, no. He looks very.

[Dana Carvey]

We have two new characters.

[David Spade]

I don't know the Scooby News.

[Dana Carvey]

You're Scooby Doo and I'm shaky. Scooby's good.

[David Spade]

It's hard to understand him.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, that's the funny part.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

How would he say, you ruck you right now. You're doing sandler. Anyway. What else you got? Anyway, Diddy trial.

[David Spade]

Good for him. Wrap it up in a nutshell.

[Dana Carvey]

Good for him. Nice little wrap it up in a river. Cute little local.

[David Spade]

Oh, okay. So last week we had Julie Bowen. A lot of people watched it, a lot of people commented, a lot of people listened. And I thought she was very fun, entertaining guest. Bust my balls. But I do have a. I have a quick fix because I said we sat courtside one time at a game, I mean, years ago, and she said, no, it was great, but they were like seventh row. It's. I found proof.

[Dana Carvey]

You were courtside.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Also, Julie Bowen got it wrong. Or lied.

[David Spade]

No, just miss.

[Dana Carvey]

Not like that.

[David Spade]

Miss. Got it. Okay, let me see where the picture is. Dick pic, dick pic, dick pic. Dick pic. Tick. Here it is. Okay.

[Dana Carvey]

Why not only do you have the dick picnic, you have to say every.

[David Spade]

Time you go by, I see one dick picture. You know, it's a. I'm scrolling.

[Dana Carvey]

So why you keep mentioning it?

[David Spade]

Because I'm just thinking out loud like, okay, that's that. Okay, here's one I understand. Look at that hat.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, wow.

[David Spade]

What a damn fool. Ah, then she looks great.

[Dana Carvey]

She looks great now. I mean, she's not. Yes, she's beautiful.

[David Spade]

And look, and then it says here, NBA courtside seats.

[Dana Carvey]

Look, you've got your tongue in her ear and everything that. No, receipts prove time.

[David Spade]

Yeah, see? Oh, So I did send them to her and just say, just so you know. And she goes, I don't know if that's true. I'm like, you don't know if proof is true.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay, she still thinks it's a. AI fake.

[David Spade]

Everyone thinks everyone's AI. That is AI.

[Dana Carvey]

That's funny.

[David Spade]

Okay, other than that, what else in the docket? Real quick. I got real quick and I cannot talk more. Oh, I had a. Oh, here's my show in Portland on the weekend.

[Dana Carvey]

I.

[David Spade]

The quick story was, it was a beautiful day in Portland, 72 degrees, the nicest day they've had all year. And I have a show inside and it stays light till like 10, so I don't even want to go to my show. And then I see some people in calvary boots. They go, oh, no, you have a show tonight because we're going to go see Post Malone and Jelly Pop. Jelly Roll. And I'm like, oh. I go, really? That sounds fun. It does kind of. And they go, yeah, it's outdoors.

[Dana Carvey]

An outdoor carnival, 30,000 festival.

[David Spade]

I get home, the news is live from there. When I get Back to my room. I go, huh? And they're like, we're out here with Jelly Pop, and he is really tubby. And let's show a wide shot. Really wide. I'm kidding. I think he's skinny now. Well, I think they're merging into the same person. Him and Post Malone, covered in tattoos, singing songs. I don't know. I don't know.

[Dana Carvey]

They did. You did well. I mean, you.

[David Spade]

I did well. Did very well. I wanted it to be, like, off the his.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, you were backstage. I had a local news feed because I follow you around Portland Action News. And they'd go out there and people in line going in, and you go, how do you feel about it? Well, we love David's Bay, but it's so freaking nice out. We're really torn.

[David Spade]

That's very true. All right, let's get to Jim Jeffries. We've had our fun.

[Dana Carvey]

We've had our fun.

[David Spade]

We're going to slow things down a bit. Jim Jeffries is a good bud and fun dude. I've golfed with killer face.

[Dana Carvey]

Sorry.

[David Spade]

Oh, you want to do serial killer face?

[Dana Carvey]

I just did it.

[David Spade]

I just.

[Dana Carvey]

I. I threw it out for. As a code. Get out of your system, Jim Jeffries.

[Jim Jeffries]

I'm very thankful. Is. We already started? Is this started?

[Dana Carvey]

No, we. We're halfway through, to be honest. We're happy. We don't have any structure or introduction or anything. We'll do all that later.

[David Spade]

Content or anything.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, see, I've met David. I've met David many times before, and I've never. I've met you in passing, Dana, but I'm. I'm a big fan, mate. I' I'm very excited to do.

[Dana Carvey]

I saw you go crush. We met at John Levitz's comedy club, right?

[Jim Jeffries]

That's correct. That's correct.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. A while back. And you were kind of unassuming. You had your accent and everything, whatever. And it was kind of a rough room because that high, high stage and everything. But then you.

[Jim Jeffries]

Three stories.

[Dana Carvey]

Then you killed. I go, God, this guy, man.

[David Spade]

Got some games.

[Jim Jeffries]

Thank you.

[Dana Carvey]

I don't know when that. Where that was. Yeah. Jeffries, is that you? Power. Powerful and funny. I was gonna ask you that. Like, you. You were one of the first that really walked outside, stepped outside the lines in some of your early specials, like.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And I. Comedians love it because I don't do that. But I love when I see someone who's literally saying exactly what they want to say without any censorship. It's very. You do it.

[Jim Jeffries]

I I think the thing that, for just saying Canterlot was the big difference from the American act. I've always said I'm the Rosa Parks of the C word, right? Because.

[David Spade]

A lot of people are saying that.

[Jim Jeffries]

A lot of people before me, there was a restriction. You couldn't, you couldn't say it in the comedy club. There was. You could say whatever you. So my first comedy special for hbo, I swear to God, right? I swear to God. Had a light at the back of the room and it was a 15 minute mark. You know how US comics, we normally have a light when we have five minutes left, right, to get off the stage? I don't know if many people know that, but what we have, we have a light at the end of the room to tell us when to get off the stage. I had a light that had 15 minutes lit up. And that meant I was allowed to say the word cunt because Netflix, because. Because HBO said to me, the ratings go in 15 minute increments. We want people to like you. We don't want them to turn off in the first 15 minutes. So you can't say the C word for the first 15 minutes. So I had a light at the back and at 15 minutes I say aunt Pandas. A bunch of cunts. And then I.

[David Spade]

Can I plummet the ratings.

[Dana Carvey]

Now let me ask you a do. Are you like, if an American hears either a British or Australian accent saying the word can't, you know, it's softer to our ears. Are you guys enamored as Australia? Should I go down there and play little tiny clubs? Not like I'm a huge star anymore, but I would play down there. Are they enamored, by the way? We, our accents are like. We are enamored of Australian and British accents.

[Jim Jeffries]

The short answer is, no, we're not. You are still a big star down there. The movies are massive. The difference is we grew up watching your TV all the time. So we've, we've seen American sitcoms since. That's why there's so many American. Australian actors doing American accents in films and not the other way, you know, so we, we grew up watching, which is weird because when I was growing up, I was a huge fan of like, Wayne's World, right? Loved Wayne's World. Didn't know it was a sketch from SNL because we never had SNL in Australia. That was never a thing. So some of the movies that came out of SNL just seemed a little odd to us because we did have a show. It's like, it's like McGruber. You were like, what? Where's MacGruber coming from? You know what I mean?

[David Spade]

Also, you thought Garth was a real guy that just had done like 10 movies, and now he's doing Wayne's World, and you're like, oh, that Garth guy is pretty funny.

[Jim Jeffries]

I had a sitcom back in the day on fx, and it went for two seasons and it was just about me.

[David Spade]

Welcome to Cuntville.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, that was the one. It was called Legit. And Legit was about me taking care of a disabled guy, which was vaguely based on my real life. We almost had a season three, but season three, the whole entire arc of season three that I'd written out. Dana Carvey was the main character, and I was going to ask you to be in the show and you were going to play yourself. The plot line of the opening episode was I was taking care of my disabled friend, the wheelchair. My character had become famous doing stand up by the end of season two. I see your character, you doing an impersonation of me on a late night show. I'm all coked up and I get upset, and so I go over to your house to confront you, but I'm chicken, so I can't knock on the door. So I get the shit out of the disabled guy's wheelchair colostomy bag, and I put it into a paper bag. And then we go up, we put it on the doorstep to light it and do the classic light the dog shit, run away. But we forget to knock on the door and your house burns down. And that's the whole season arc from then on that. That I'm your only friend and you're sleeping on my couch. And I hadn't even really met you at that stage, but if you didn't take it, I was going to ask David to do the role. I had options.

[David Spade]

I'll do it.

[Dana Carvey]

Wow. And that you can throw the on me.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Burning down Dana Carvey's house did not get picked up.

[Dana Carvey]

And they go quickly.

[David Spade]

Any other just quick pitches for season three, or is that the one we're going with?

[Jim Jeffries]

I've got full scripts. I wrote the whole thing out. I thought it was a premise.

[David Spade]

By the way. The weirder the better, I say, like, some of these shows are too by the book and you just can figure them all out if you start that way. I'm in.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, the. The first. The. The first episode of season one was just me taking a disabled guy to a brothel, which is something I did in my real life. I had a Friend with muscular dystrophy. And before he died, I took him to a brothel. And so it's a. It's a sweet story, you know, he couldn't get laid. It's legal in Australia. I should add that being disabled is legal. And prostitution. And they finally pass disabled bill.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm so glad.

[Jim Jeffries]

And I took him down to the brothel. And this guy. This guy had died a couple of times, like his heart had given away. He'd been resuscitated. So me and his brother took him down with the full knowledge that this might go tits up, you know what I mean? So we laid him down and then, you know, the. The girl did what she did and then we put him back in the chair and then we went off and had a couple of drinks. And that was our day. Now. Now I told the story to so many people. I made a sitcom about the story. And then cut to a few years later. I see him and he's like, hey, you made a lot of money out story. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did. He goes, you should take me to the brothel again. It's only fair, right? So I'm thinking, this guy's going to get his second blow job in his life. I'm going to do it, right? I'll take him again. And I went down and they all greeted him like he was Norm from Cheers. It turns out that. It turns out that he. He gives this sob story to everyone. As soon as he walked in, they were like, dan, by the way, was.

[David Spade]

He disabled or do we know? And does the wean work? I don't know.

[Dana Carvey]

Does experience go. I don't know how Australians think of this phrase. Did it go tits up or not tits down?

[Jim Jeffries]

I think tits down.

[David Spade]

Something you say or not?

[Jim Jeffries]

No, no one says tits down. Tits up is when something goes badly. There's no tits down.

[Dana Carvey]

Right. Yeah, yeah, that's. That's American too, I think.

[Jim Jeffries]

I think the term tits up means that, like a banana pill slip, like up in the air. Tits up means. It means.

[Dana Carvey]

I think I want to have Australian actors because I. I've just noticed that they're not only good at American accents, they're perfect. Yeah. And I start with Russell Crowe, like, yeah, immaculate. And I don't know why that is. And the Australian actors you send us all seem alpha. Alpha, you know, like, no, nobody's kind of like a little guy or. They're always seem to be kind of.

[Jim Jeffries]

They, you know, there's, you know, there's a third Hemsworth, though. That's a Lot shorter. Who also is an actor. There's the two main ones and there's a third one, but there's a. And he's the eldest brother and he's the one who started acting first. He's really nice. But the other two good looking ones came along and went, we'll have a go.

[David Spade]

Oh, he's not good looking either.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, he's good. No, he's, he's good looking by our standards, but not by. As a Hemsworth.

[David Spade]

You know, he cremates us, but against.

[Jim Jeffries]

Those two next to me, looks just great. But I'll tell you my, my one Russell Crowe story, because you mentioned Russell.

[David Spade]

Oh, you know all these guys.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, there's like 10 Australians, right, but you know, you know the comedian David Williams from Australia. No, he's British. He's on Little Britain. Was he sketch show.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

He's the judge of Britain's Got Talent or something like that. So we.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh yes, now I know exactly who you're talking about. Yeah, he's kind of pale, really pale and kind of chubby face. Yeah, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

So me, I was, me, David and, and Russell were going out to dinner. And Russell lives at the end of this pier and in the harbor and on the bottom story of the pier. All these fancy restaurants along Sydney Harbour, right, They're all like lined up along Sydney Harbour. And so we went down the lift, we started walking through the car park and so it's just a car park with a few sort of like exit doors to different shops and stuff along the pit. And I said, well, what restaurant we going to? He goes, oh, we're going to this Chinese restaurant. I eat there once a week. It's one of the best Chinese restaurants you'll ever go to. I'm telling you. Try the duck. Right? So we, we walking along and then I go, well, how do we get into it? He goes, I just walk in through the back. They know me, right, so we get to the door, Russell just bashes through the door. He goes past, there's a bloke like washing dishes, probably thinking it's someone from ICE coming to get him, right? He's just washing dishes out the back. Then we go into like, then we go into the kitchen and there's like all the chefs in the, in the clean bit, right? So Russell bounds through, he's way ahead of us. Then me and David go in through the restaurant like this. We're like so sorry for coming in through the back. We're very much looking forward to the meal. Thank you. So much for having us. Really appreciate you. We get out into the dining area and Russell's just staying there and he goes, wrong restaurant. I went a door early and so it was like. It was like the most famous man in Australia followed by one of the second most famous people in Australia applied by me. And it just was a cavalcade of we had to go back out in the street and walk out and come back in again. Anyway. He does a very good American accent.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

A brilliant actor.

[Jim Jeffries]

I mean, he's one of the best actors you'll ever see.

[Dana Carvey]

Master Commander, if anyone listening has never seen it, it's like a miracle of a movie. Russell Crowe and that. The whole ship at sea. Have you seen it?

[Jim Jeffries]

I have seen it, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

It gets you seasick, that film. If you watch it in the cinema, there's a lot of rocking around, I think.

[Dana Carvey]

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[Jim Jeffries]

Son of a carpenter. My father's a carpenter and it's just an easy reference point, but yeah, I'm son of a carpenter. I was not tried to say.

[Dana Carvey]

This is extraordinary. You're playing Istanbul, you're playing massive dates, Manchester, all over Europe. Talk about what the.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, I, I, I, I got my comedy chops in Britain. I, I did most of my early work in the UK. I, I went to the UK 2001 and sort of stayed there till 2010 and then I moved to America. But the, the British comedy circuit I think is the best in the world because the cities are so close together. You're never getting on an airplane. You're going 50 miles, Liverpool to Manchester, Manchester to Leeds. You can double up in cities. You can start, you can do an early spot in one city and then end up in, you can start in one country, you can start in Scotland and then finish in England for your night. You know, I mean, it's interesting place.

[Dana Carvey]

I got to count, Count me in.

[Jim Jeffries]

But I can get your gigs. You two would do all right. You do just fine. Don't worry about it.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, what are we talking? Big, big clubs or small theaters or small arenas? Big arenas.

[Jim Jeffries]

You could, I think you would do some medium to large theaters, you know. But like, let's not book the O2 just yet. But let's see how the first two are going.

[Dana Carvey]

You'd rather sell it out than the, the 10 percenters book you in something too huge. What's the biggest room you will tour?

[Jim Jeffries]

I have done the O2 before, but on this tour I'll do the Hammersmith, I'll do the Hammersmith Apollo, which is like 4,000. And I probably will do two shows there, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not.

[David Spade]

That's pretty juicy.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, but that's like a nice room. And then there's the Manchester Apollo and then I think there's a gig in Amsterdam that's quite large that I'll do I always do a right in Amsterdam. I've been gigging a lot in Amsterdam for the last 20 years. It's just before weed was legal, I always used to accept gigs in Amsterdam. It's like how, it's like now that I'm a family guy, I always seem to find gigs in Hawaii out of nowhere that I.

[Dana Carvey]

To take the family.

[Jim Jeffries]

The family? Yeah. I sell like 500 tickets, but it's worth it because I get to go to Hawaii.

[Dana Carvey]

What, what culture as when you were at your edgiest, I was going to ask you if you've adjusted anything just because you want to or you're still just as edgy. What, what are, what country accepted you? Was, are the British looser with this? Are we more patrician or.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know, the British were the loosest country for comedy that I performed. And still to this day. No, I, I've always said that like, like everyone always goes, what's the difference between performing in the different continents and countries? Comedy's comedy, laughs are all the same. But the heckling changes. So I believe that Americans try to correct you. If an American, if an American heckles you, they're always like, hey buddy, I tell you what, my sister had blood, you know, I mean, they're trying to get into an argument or prove you wrong. Australians are trying to trip you up. So if you get close to a punchline, they'll just go, ah, I can't. And they'll just yell something out. So you just get off your speed a little bit.

[Dana Carvey]

Delightful.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, they're niggly little. Right? And then, and then, and then the British try to out joke you. They try to say something funnier than there's, there's a classic story, right, that down at the London Comedy Store, Kurt Douglas's Michael Douglas's brother, Jeff Douglas or something, I don't know. One of the other Douglases.

[Dana Carvey]

One of the other Douglases that was.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, one of the other Douglas's. Kurt Douglas's son. He's having a, he's having a bad gig at the London Comedy Store. He, he starts getting booed or a few years or whatever. And so he tells them all the off and he goes, you can all off. I don't need this. I'm Kurt Douglas's son. And then another. And then one person stood up and went, I'm Kurt Douglas's son. And then another person said, I'm Kurt Douglas's son. And they did the entire scene from Spartacus. The British are very good. They're very good.

[Dana Carvey]

I have A quick story that involves the C word. So Spartacus. Right.

[David Spade]

Used to be cancer, but we're changing.

[Dana Carvey]

We're gonna set the record anyway. This is so random, and It'll amuse, like, 3% of our audience. So Kirk Douglas is in Spartacus, and he's really kind of buff and, you know, muscular. And Lawrence Olivier is in there. So the guy sees Lawrence Olivier. He's this famous old British actor, super famous. And he's doing leg presses really hard. They go, oh, Larry, you're really working out. Yeah. He goes, I'm doing Spartacus, and I don't want that Kirk Douglas doubt. Physicalize me. That's all I got.

[David Spade]

Physical.

[Dana Carvey]

That was a legitimate use of the word from a story I was told.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, that's. That's an historical use of the C word.

[David Spade]

Do you see Margot Robbie at icebergs a lot?

[Jim Jeffries]

Margot, what's Iceberg? Oh, the iceberg's a restaurant in Bondi. The fact you know about icebergs. Geez. You look at me.

[David Spade]

Look out, Dana, look.

[Dana Carvey]

Where's Bandai?

[Jim Jeffries]

Bondi beach is a. A populous beach that's close to the city center in Sydney. Right. And sort of it's where all the British people get sunburnt and skin cancer over Christmas. But there's a restaurant there that overlooks, like, a public pool. The public pool has ocean water that pours into it, which is kind of interesting. It's a fancy. It's a fancy restaurant. I've never. I've never met Margot Robbie. I'm a fan. I once was on. I once was the other guest on Kimmel when Margot Robbie was on Kimmel.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know how, like, you're a guest on those shows, you never meet the other guests? Yeah.

[David Spade]

You have to make a point of it because they' like, somewhere else. You don't even know where they are.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. They're in a different dressing room. And then you've. Come on. Then you leave, or they've already left and you're the second guest. And then they've. They're already in. They're gone. Right. So. So I've been on, like, episodes of those shows. Bill Clinton was on one. Never met him. Right. You know, these. These different people, but Margot Robbie was the other guest. And so her dressing room was next to mine, and I just sort of lingered in the hallway, just like, acting like I was looking for something. Just. I'm Australian. I have an in. You know, I could have gone, hey.

[Dana Carvey]

You know how longer you can see?

[Jim Jeffries]

She would have accepted me saying the C word in front of her. It would have been music to her ears.

[David Spade]

I'm a local. Don't you hate all these Americans here? That's what I said.

[Jim Jeffries]

Exactly. I would have said something like that. But I tell you what, you got to give it up. The Margot Robbie, the flying the Australian flag. Is there a. Is there a better person on if, if the aliens came down and they said give us your two best, not just looking, just your best human beings. And we gave him Hugh Jackman and Margot Robbie. Come on now, you can't get better than those two.

[David Spade]

That's true.

[Dana Carvey]

Let's see here. Hugh Jackman and Margot Robbie and raise you Jennifer Aniston and Russell Crowe.

[David Spade]

David Russell Crowe. Is, is he saying Australian versus America?

[Dana Carvey]

We're saying the two best humans, the.

[Jim Jeffries]

Two best humans we give to the aliens to represent us. To go. This is what we've got. Okay, first of all, Russell can't bloody dance and tap dance and stuff. Like he's not a threat.

[David Spade]

That's true. He's a triple threat. That huge.

[Dana Carvey]

But he can sing. That guy can sing. He's like your buddy Brad Pitt.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, Brad, Yeah. Well, Brad's, Brad's brilliant. Yeah. Of course you were talking about Brad off the air about how, what is he, 61 or something like that and he still looks like the fact that we have a 61 year old and I haven't seen the movie that we are going to watch a drive a Formula one car and go, yep, that seems about right. Yeah.

[David Spade]

When they're forced to retire at like 30.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he should, he should, he should have a bloody special pass for the bus. Brad Pitt at his age and he's going to be driving a Formula one car.

[David Spade]

Sure. And Brad ending in Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible.

[Dana Carvey]

I saw Mission Impossible. Yeah, I gotta co sign that movie. It's brilliant. Tom Cruise.

[Jim Jeffries]

I haven't seen the new one yet.

[David Spade]

It was in the submarine too long.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, it's the greatest movie ever. And then you're like, well, yeah, no, I just see it. Definitely see it. Yeah, it's very cool. You know, you don't want to overblow some. But as far as that, like you know these people, they don't. They take care of themselves. We were talking about that before the podcast, the old, old timey actors. It was booze and cigarettes and they died around 60. So for you, like Houston, one of your early specials.

[Jim Jeffries]

But we just said, we just said Brad Pitts was a smoker and Russell is a smoker and then people they're still smoking. They've got some special they're getting blood put into.

[David Spade]

You're like the audience correcting us, like.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, that, that's TR Recovery, you know, So I was gonna. Because one of your early specials really made me laugh. The only one I ever saw do this a little bit was Ricky Gervais. But during the special, I don't know if there is kind of like a set you would wander around, and all of a sudden, from behind something, you'd pick up another pint of beer.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. And I don't know how many beers you did throughout the special, but that's something I've never seen. I know you stopped drinking, but do you look at those days as any kind of funniness or. Because to me, it really got my attention, like, like, when's the next time he's gonna grab a magic beer?

[Jim Jeffries]

Okay. So I didn't know that was going to be a joke. And I only ever did that for the special. I never did that for my normal shows. I normally used to have my beers just on top of the box when I'm performing, just ready to grab. But because with a special. And I don't know if I'm doing some inside baseball stuff here, mostly we record two shows that night. Edit it together or just show the best one. One. Right. And so they will, they, they edited in every pint I had over two shows. So it did look like I had seven pints in one hour. Right. So I can't take credit for. I did not have seven pints in one hour. Now, the reason that they were behind the box was for continuity, because the pint, the level of the liquid. Yeah. And I'd be leaving empty glasses everywhere else. So just before I went out, they lined up for each show, four pints of lager behind the thing. Now, back in the day, people used to, like, go on about what a great drinker I was. I actually was a really bad drinker. I, I would get drunk very, very quickly. It just so happened in those first two specials, I was also on cocaine. But if they asked. But that's the reason that was propping me up. Right. And I, I regret doing that in my life. And I, you know, if my child is watching this podcast many years later, I was an idiot. But that was why I could drink. So I gave that, I gave up all drugs when my son was born. When my son was born. I never took drugs again. When he's 12 now, and, and I, I, I, I never took drugs again. But I continued drinking and everyone just thought I was a bad drinker. Everyone thought I was getting out of control. I was actually in recovery. Like.

[Dana Carvey]

You say, like two loggers, like two pints. Then you were sort of drunk, I.

[Jim Jeffries]

Mean, like slurring and like started slurring after three pints now.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, so. And so then I did some specials and I was just a dribbling mess in all the specials, but I was just. And so then my wife gets pregnant with my last child, who's. Who's about to turn four, and I haven't had a drink since then, so. And I. I don't miss it at all any. Anymore. Not at all. I don't miss any of it. Don't miss cigarettes, don't miss alcohol, don't miss drugs. I. I regret doing all of them, really. I feel a lot, lot better.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I was noticing that you look younger than the last time I saw you, basically. I mean, you look really good.

[Jim Jeffries]

I'm not. I'm not sweating as much as I used to be down.

[Dana Carvey]

You're more of a, you know, so.

[David Spade]

But I've never seen you messy, though. I think when I see you, it's maybe a more professional setting, but I've never seen you mess.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, yeah, well, not anymore anyway. But yeah, no, I. I just sort of knocked it on. The. The cigarettes was the hardest one. That's the hardest one to quit out of the lot is this cigarettes. And I think, think that's the. The I. I read there was a book, Alan Card, stop smoking. The se. The secret to giving up cigarettes is this is you stop. You stop envying people who are smoking. It used to be you'd give up cigarettes for a while, and every time I'd see a cigarette, I'd go, oh, geez, I wish I could have a cigarette. You got to start looking at them like they're slaves to nicotine and that you're free. That's the only way. There's my motivational talk for the day.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, that's good. Hey, I have another Kirk Douglas. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but this totally fits. This fits better than the last one.

[Jim Jeffries]

The last one was good. It was good. Reckon that musl cunt Kurt Douglas movie.

[Dana Carvey]

With Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster. So Kirk Douglas told me his dad was a chain smoker and then he quit. And I said, well, how did you do it? So his dad took a cigarette, put it in his pocket, and anytime he wanted a cigarette, and he was Russian, he would pull it out and go, who Is stronger me or you?

[Jim Jeffries]

Me.

[Dana Carvey]

He was so competitive that that just stopped it. Who is stronger, me or you? Keep back in pocket cigarette. I am strong man. You are little rolled nicotine. And that was the quote. That was. I'm just quoting Kirk Douglas. I'm just quoting Kirk Douglas.

[Jim Jeffries]

I was at nicotine back in the day, whoring myself to nicotine.

[Dana Carvey]

Has it influenced your comedy at all? Like your standup writing just being completely off everything? Because the special you're talking about were really well received and the last, the.

[Jim Jeffries]

Last few haven't been as well received.

[Dana Carvey]

Once you've gotten sober. I, I.

[Jim Jeffries]

Look, look, Sergeant PE was, was arguably the Beatles best album, right? It was nonsensical rubbish that was all.

[Dana Carvey]

On acid and stuff. Yeah, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

I don't, I don't listen to the whole Lucy in the sky with Diamonds. It was a painting, you know, like Julian gave me a painting. I'm doing more Paul there, but you know what I mean.

[Dana Carvey]

You sat down for a plunk, you know. Is that how you did it?

[Jim Jeffries]

We would plonk.

[Dana Carvey]

John and I would look at each other sort of like a mirror. I'm just quoting him now. So. But, yeah, but I love you.

[David Spade]

An opera singer, Jim, before you get a chance to answer.

[Jim Jeffries]

So this is, this is a thing that always is brought up in my life.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I love it.

[David Spade]

It's a fake one, so.

[Jim Jeffries]

No, no, it's true. It's true. So, okay, so I, I did school musicals because that was how you met girls, right? If you're not, if you're not athletic, I went and you go and do a school musical, join the drama club or whatever. That's my theory on why actors are so short. Right. I think it's because they, they couldn't play sport at a high level, so they joined the drama club. It's all about meeting girls, Right? So I, I think, yeah, that's my theory anyway, because, so, so I, I went and did musical theater at, at school. And then there was literally like a talent scout came to one of the shows and said he could be a tenor. And we don't have many tall tenors and that's a really like a hard thing in the opera company. And so they, they, they sent me off to singing lessons with this guy called Richard Gill, who was the head of the chorus master in Australia. I sound like an old person talking about relatives you've never met. And I studied for a while and then When I was 17, I was put in the Australian opera in the chorus for one production of The Flying Dutchman, which was Wagner. And so I was just like, like I was literally singing in German. Didn't know a word of what I was saying.

[David Spade]

I would just buy in German. Holy.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, I was just buying a CD and just mimicking the German, you know what I mean? And then, you know, they teach us the songs, but I didn't know what the songs were about or anything. So after that I went and studied at waa and Whopper is the Western Australian Academy of Performing Arts, which is where Hugh Jackman studied, which they had a full scholarship ride to study musical theater. Theater. By the time I was two years into that, I was already being paid to be a stand up comic. And I just quit it in the middle of the night and just went off on, on tour. But I always wanted to be a stand up comic. But I thought you can't study that at university. You gotta. I wanted to study something in the performing arts and so I studied musical theater and I would like to. I can't sing anymore because cigarettes and yelling on stage and I've had polyps and nodules and nodules. I've done. I've had the surgery and all that. You can hear me. Voice is pretty raspy now, but good singers. And it's weird because everyone always goes, sing us a song when they find out you're an opera singer. And it's like you wouldn't have gone up to Pele when he was like, hadn't played soccer for 50 years and gone. Go and do a bit of keepy up.

[David Spade]

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[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. So it's, it's a muscle. I haven't really worked, but I did do that. I still have fondness for musical theater. I still go and see any production that comes to la.

[David Spade]

Two follow up questions. Okay, one, did that garner any puss because you went through a lot.

[Dana Carvey]

Is that a new garner?

[Jim Jeffries]

Okay, okay, I, I was, I will say this to any, any young heterosexual man who can sing a little bit, right?

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

If you go to university where they audition thousands of people to get like 30 kids, it was like going to fame.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

And half of the class is male and half the class is female. Those girls have been doing dance lessons since they were bloody kids. Right? Singing lessons, acting lessons, all that type of stuff. Right. All the boys have been doing the same. The 30 kids in my year at university, I think out of the 15 boys, 10 of them were gay. And that just. The numbers don't lie. That's too good.

[David Spade]

It tilts your way for sure.

[Jim Jeffries]

I'LL tell you what, it worked a lot better than being a comedian saying the word cunt all the time. Yeah, I didn't bring as many women in as you think.

[David Spade]

You know, you could name your next.

[Dana Carvey]

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[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, they were fun girls who did like me, but they were. They didn't come in their masses.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

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[Jim Jeffries]

Here we go. I'm calling my new special. It hasn't come out. Is called two Limb Policy is the name of the special.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay, Limb. Like limb too. Limb policy.

[Jim Jeffries]

Because I, I have, and I talk about this on the special, but because I did that sitcom with the disabled people, a lot of disabled people come to my show. I have a meet and greet after the show. I always let the disabled people join the meet and greet and I take photos with all the different people with disabilities. But I can't. Like, someone wrote to me and said, hey, I'm bringing my uncle to your show. He's disabled. Can we come backstage and meet you? And you can't write back. Like, how disabled?

[David Spade]

Right.

[Jim Jeffries]

And you can't ask for a photo. Right. But we have to have some parameters. I just can't have a lineup of people with dyslexia bothering me. So I have a. I have a two limb policy. You have to be missing two limbs or they have to be doing nothing. And if you have two limbs that are up, you can. You're lucky enough with me.

[David Spade]

Take a picture of this.

[Jim Jeffries]

You're allowed to come backstage and meet this cunt if you're missing two limbs.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay, that's good.

[David Spade]

I have a question also from the audience.

[Dana Carvey]

At some point, we got to get to your show because we know.

[David Spade]

Oh, the show is. Go ahead, Dana.

[Dana Carvey]

We're out. You're on a little press tour for your show. Sure.

[David Spade]

We can't forget the show.

[Jim Jeffries]

The Snake. The Snake Snake.

[David Spade]

I saw your billboard hogging Sunset Boulevard.

[Jim Jeffries]

I'm not on the billboard. That's how that was an executive decision.

[Dana Carvey]

What, David, what was your Fox show with Snake in the top title last year?

[David Spade]

Oh, Snake oil.

[Dana Carvey]

Snake oil. This is called the Snake. His was called Snake Oil.

[Jim Jeffries]

We're part of the snake family of Fox.

[David Spade]

Oh, it is the same billboard. Yeah, it's by the Chateau Marmont.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah. So we, we snake it up. Yeah. The Snake is a reality show that's similar to Big Brother or Survivor or Fear Factor. It's got elements of those three shows. So it's, it's good looking people living in a house in the jungle, doing tasks where they have to eat gross food. But what the secret sauce in the show is, instead of like an elimination ceremony or where people get voted off anonymously, what happens is the person who wins the task gets to become the snake. They get the coveted snake medallion and then if they get the snake medallion, they get to save the first person. And the person who gets saved gets to save one person. The person who gets saved gets to save another person. It snakes down the chain, setting up a chain reaction. So you don't have to have a majority rule to like you in the show go. You just need to make really one or two friends that will keep saving you but you can't repay the favor. So if someone saves you, you've got to save another person. So, so like, like you get a lot of skull duggery. You get a lot of skull tuggers.

[David Spade]

Skullduggery out there.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, Well, I tell you, I was explaining this show the other day on some good morning something and I said the word skullduggery because that's what I always think about the show. And you know what skullduggery means? Like pirates and. Yeah, yeah, old English. Yes, skull duggery. And, and the lady went, so if you want to watch the snake, there's a lot of skull buggery.

[Dana Carvey]

Buggery.

[Jim Jeffries]

Bugger is the English legal term for anal sex.

[Dana Carvey]

Right, Yeah, I saw that on the, on the Churchill movie. Yeah, exactly.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. The word buggery is like the legal term. The buggery happened, blah, blah, blah. And so she just said on morning TV movie, come and watch some skull buggery. And I think it got through. I don't think anyone noticed.

[David Spade]

Everyone tunes in for that.

[Dana Carvey]

Could I just for a second, that look, that's, that's a winner. So just for a second going back because I kind of Spaced out for a second. So you're in, you're in Argentina in a jungle. Where is everybody? What are they wearing and who are they?

[Jim Jeffries]

Okay, so when I, I set out the start of the show, episode one, I'm standing on a crate and there's all these crates around me, which was meant to be like the crates you'd bring reptiles in. You know what I mean? And I said, come out of your crates. You know, I've got an earpiece in. I don't quite know who's who. And they, they open the crates up and fed income, man. We had like, we had like, like a priest with a collar on. We had a, we had a bulletproof vest. We had a, we had a rodeo rider with the chaps and spurs and all that type of stuff.

[Dana Carvey]

It's like the Village People. People.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, exactly. And we had, and we had. I got a Village People story to tell you in a second. Okay, so, so we had, we had only, an Only fans model. Right. I thought, you know that Jury Judy.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

Or the Joe Schmo Show. I thought I was the only real person. And they were all actors for like the longest time.

[David Spade]

They were tricking you.

[Jim Jeffries]

They were tricking me. But I, I, I was the mark. Mark. I thought I was the mark. Actually, it's not a bad idea for a show, right? And I'm like, I'm like, what, what the.

[David Spade]

And you're in the middle of nowhere.

[Jim Jeffries]

First of all, who employs me to be a game show host? Like, it's already weird. And so, so all these people go. And so right up until the show aired, I wasn't completely sure. But I'll tell you my Village People's story. So I do another podcast with a comedian called Amos Gill. Another Australian club. Yeah, I do the 1% club in Australia. But this podcast, this podcast is called ATM at this moment. It stands for different search on the Internet. Anyway, so, yeah, lingo. Yeah.

[David Spade]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about the other one. I gotta research that again.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah. So anyway, so I, I was doing a joke about how Trump has the YMCA playing at all of these concerts, at all of his benefits or rallies, and everyone does the dance and all that type of stuff, right? Yeah. And I said, I said, it's so funny that, that, that song is about having gay sex in the showers and now all these evangelical people are dancing and stuff to the song. Seems a little odd. I got a cease and desist letter from the Village People saying that I was going to be sued for defamation for saying that The Village People music had gay overtones.

[David Spade]

Is it. Does it not?

[Jim Jeffries]

It turned Victor Willis, who's the cop, I guess he was always at the front, and he never turned around to notice the rest of them because. Because he's.

[David Spade]

He's.

[Jim Jeffries]

He's married to a woman called Karen Willis. Before that, he was married to Felicia, like Mrs. Huxtable from the Cosby Show. He was married to her back and. Yeah, and. And. And you're not allowed to say that the Village People music has gay overtones. What? Or they will sue.

[Dana Carvey]

Now, possibly.

[Jim Jeffries]

We could be. Possibly sued. I said, what about in the Navy and Macho Man? They're as gay as. Come on now.

[Dana Carvey]

Come on now.

[David Spade]

Come on now.

[Jim Jeffries]

There's a lyric in. In the Navy called We want more semen. Like, I'm all for more. A double ton, but don't try to tell me I'm a.

[David Spade]

I think they're just saying, come on, guys. Don't. I mean, they haven't been outed to, like, three people so far, so.

[Dana Carvey]

It's a catchy freaking song, man. It is good.

[Jim Jeffries]

I tell you what. Because after that, I started listening to their other musics. It's banger after banger after banger.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's like. It's like. It's like for disco music, you can't stop the music is a hell of a song.

[Dana Carvey]

Song. I mean, that's such a hook.

[Jim Jeffries]

Now, my son watching you in Wayne's World, too.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

He knows every step because he loves that movie so much.

[David Spade]

Did you do it in that?

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He. You were the construction worker, weren't you, in that?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I was dressed. The construction where. I think we're running away from the bad guy or something. Somehow we end up in this nightclub, and Wayne and I are now doing YMCA with these people.

[Jim Jeffries]

Yeah, they're. They're all. They're all doing. Yeah, the YMCA and like. Like that. You're all spies. Like, you were up a telegraph pole.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh.

[Jim Jeffries]

And then you heard something. And then I think Wayne was like a cop. And then somehow they found an Indian for no apparent reason.

[Dana Carvey]

That's right. And all of a sudden it comes together.

[Jim Jeffries]

And then all of a sudden it was a little bit like. Like, what's that? Police Academy. And they ended up in the Blue Oyster. It was a little bit of that. They ended up in the wrong nightclub. And then they do it. But. But that's the. That's the dance. Because you guys all did it, and then you actually did the Thing. And then you. I always say, like, if. If the Village People People actually do get me, if I get my day in court and I am being sued by the Village People, I'm gonna go, not guilty.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Act it out.

[Dana Carvey]

Is there any character left? I mean, they've got the construction worker, the Indian. I mean, maybe you come as a other costume. I don't know.

[Jim Jeffries]

Crocodile Dundee. Just off the side, you know?

[Dana Carvey]

What is your son's name that loves that movie?

[Jim Jeffries]

Hank.

[David Spade]

Hank.

[Dana Carvey]

Hey, Hank. This is Garth. I got a different haircut, but thanks for watching.

[Jim Jeffries]

When we end the podcast, can he come up and say hello very quickly. He's downstairs playing video games.

[David Spade]

That would be fine.

[Dana Carvey]

Camera shy. Just bring him up.

[David Spade]

We have to whisk Dana.

[Dana Carvey]

Will he come on, or you want to do it with off camera?

[Jim Jeffries]

He's also a big Joe Dirt fan, so.

[David Spade]

Okay, bring him on. Bring him on.

[Dana Carvey]

Let's compare box off.

[David Spade]

Joe Dirt was my first Australian trip. I went to Sydney.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oh, what? You filmed it in Australia, right?

[David Spade]

No, we. When they had a premiere there, it was the same. It was a night after the premiere of Moulin Rouge, and I went down there and I went to a concert, and they sat me next to Baz lman. All this great Australian stuff.

[Jim Jeffries]

He, he, he. Look, he still flies the flag. I always argue that things like, I guess Moulin Rouge is an Australian film. Australian actress, Australian director, filmed in Australia. Kylie Minogue plays the. The Tinkerbell thing. It's an Australian movie. As soon as Kylie's involved.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Jim Jeffries]

You know, right? Kylie's our Kylie. You can't speak ill of Kylie.

[David Spade]

No, no. I think she's great. I like. I have great. Australians are great. I do like it. Go ahead, Dane. And then I have one last story.

[Dana Carvey]

It's just weird sometimes. I was hosting Vegas showcase for movies, and Baz Luhrman was there. Moulin Rouge and Nicole Kidman. So I was hanging out with him. It's just kind of weird. And you brought it up and that's all. That's my whole story. There's no joke other than I met them at the promotion of the thing.

[Jim Jeffries]

Well, I think.

[Dana Carvey]

Nicotine. Nicotine. Who is stronger, me or you? Sorry. Sorry. That was just for me. I'm a little punchy right now.

[David Spade]

Like, back in the pocket. Jim, one last question. We're going to ask everyone again so you can have one more shot. This is a story from a viewer that said that if this is not a funny story, we'll just take it out. I don't know if this is a funny story for you that your father sat you down, you and your wife to tell you something.

[Jim Jeffries]

I, I can't, I, I can tell you that off the air, but I can't tell it. My dad doesn't. Yeah, I can tell you off the air. I, I can't tell it on the air. Sorry.

[Dana Carvey]

We have an after hours.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's because my dad doesn't know how to get onto YouTube or anything like that. But enough. It will get back to him on this podcast.

[David Spade]

Back for sure. I didn't know what level of it was, but I, I, I apologize.

[Jim Jeffries]

It's 100% true. It's 100% true. That story. It's.

[David Spade]

I don't know the story. That's why I'm waiting to hear.

[Dana Carvey]

We are gonna. Yeah, just the tease. We don't need the story, but just the tease is gonna trend. Yeah, we like there's just. Hey, man, it's all about click.

[Jim Jeffries]

So let me ask you bring Han into the story. I'll tell you this. Okay. We can cut it out if you want. I can tell it to you right now if you want to actually hear it.

[David Spade]

No, I don't, I'm scared.

[Dana Carvey]

I don't want it to accident somehow. No, we to embarrass. I just, we don't know how this works.

[Jim Jeffries]

Alex Murray tell you about this story because he knows. Oh, okay. Because me, me, Me and David have the same manager, so that's what's happened there.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I'll tell you this about the Carvey family. My, my childhood family with five kids and Bud Carvey and all that stuff that went on. Throw away the key because no one would believe it. There's some things we leave off something better not share. Just know that it's a little wacky.

[Jim Jeffries]

Look, he, he's ready for this year. If I'm back on the podcast in a couple of years, I might be able to tell you.

[David Spade]

Okay. Yeah, fair enough.

[Jim Jeffries]

Give it, give it some time.

[Dana Carvey]

20, 27. We're gonna hold you to that.

[Jim Jeffries]

All right.

[David Spade]

Thanks, Jim.

[Dana Carvey]

We'll talk hanging out with you, man.

[Jim Jeffries]

So thanks for having us, lads. I really appreciate it.

[Dana Carvey]

So it was kind of nice. We, we just.

[David Spade]

Finished with Jim. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Jim Jeffries, who's been around for a while. It's really. Has. I, I found him very affable, funny, likable, interesting.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I like. You know, I met him before I was giving him a About Brad pit because Brad, you know, Brad's a great guy. He's. He knows Jim. I think he Went on his show in the old days. Jim and I used to work on the same lot. I think when I was doing maybe lights out or something, he was around. So super cool dude. And big and he travels. He goes all over the world. That sort of surprised me. The places he goes and how much, how much he can, he can fill him up over there because who knows, you just never know who knows you out there in the world.

[Dana Carvey]

It is kind of a thing. Yeah. The international comedian who just can go all over. I haven't done that, you know, I mean, you did Australia.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah, maybe I didn't do stand up though. I just went there to do premieres. I didn't.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, okay.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I wouldn't know. I just. It's scary to go over there because I would love to go, but they said if you go the first time, don't you just go a small theater, just try to fill it up just to see if it works. And then you go back. Now people know you do it. Etc.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I like the idea when you said that you can just, you can just drive around the uk.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

If you don't like getting in an airplane, you drive around the uk. So that seemed kind of cool. I mean in Scotland I have relatives there. Distant. I have McDonald on one side. But it seems kind of cool. Maybe we should do a little tour there.

[David Spade]

I also like that he has disabled people come back for a meet and greet. That was kind of a cool thing. I haven't heard before.

[Dana Carvey]

It's a good idea, you know, because his, his stand up, at least in the old days. I was going to ask about his new stand up but it was, it was kind of rough and tumble. And then juxtaposing that, that he, he helps this disabled person and then he. Now he has a following backstage and does meet and greets. I mean that was fascinating because it, it makes him. Well, it just makes him extremely likable. Of course in human. That, that is his meet and greet. And the two limb thing, the dad can't have to have more. At least two limbs not working.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I still like tall tenor as a name. That's a good name. Maybe not for the next one, but it's a good special name because it's so odd that he goes, they don't have many tall tennis. When do you hear about an opera singing.

[Dana Carvey]

You'Re ever gonna see in your life? My Australian accent accent sucks right now, I'll admit. But I watched a show, an Australian show once with my wife and then I had it so good.

[David Spade]

Now, if anyone can get it, you can. I can't believe they can do American so well. Australian's a very tough one, too, to do.

[Dana Carvey]

Right. We mentioned Margot Robbie in that conversation, too. And she also does a perfect American accent. I mean, there's.

[David Spade]

Yeah, you know, when they came over here, because I went to a speech coach for some movie to do a New Hampshire accent, and she was like. I said, when they come over, what do you do? She said, well, we say, are you from Brooklyn? Are you from Florida? Are you from Arizona? Are you from. From North Dakota? Like, there's tiny differences all over. So it's not just American accent. They can have one bland one. But is it Southern? What kind of Southern? So there's so many ways to go with that.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, it's. It's like we'd be. Americans are enamored by certain accents. And of course, if you meet an Irishman, how are you going? You're sort of like, whoa, from those Irish movies. But I have Irish relatives who ended up in the Bronx in New York, and they'd seen all the Scorsese De Niro films. And the first guy that talked like, hey, what do you. What are you two stooling today? What are you doing over here? They were like, almost weeping with joy that they're talking to somebody.

[David Spade]

Oh, it's really like that to them.

[Dana Carvey]

It was, like, amazing. If I. If I had someone with a Liverpool accent, I'd be like, oh, wow. But they just love that. The exportation of the east coast accent, all those Mafia films, it's huge.

[David Spade]

We almost got that story up out of them at the end, too. But I have a feeling it was a little rough around the edges.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I think. Think about. About Jim. He came to play, he was very funny, had a lot of energy, and at the end he goes, was it all right that I talked too much? I thought that was kind of human, because I know.

[David Spade]

Please.

[Dana Carvey]

I said, we love a comedian coming on. And here's a great story, you know, the Russell Crowe restaurant story and stuff. So, yeah, very much enjoyable.

[David Spade]

Well, thanks for listening. As you know, Monday we have another show, and if you have any questions for us.

[Jim Jeffries]

Us.

[Dana Carvey]

We want.

[David Spade]

Yeah, we want to hear from you. Fly on the [e-mail] so, odyssey.com, what are some subjects they can ask about, which is pretty much anything.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I mean, I would think. How are you feeling about interacting with AI? Do you feel it's a good thing or it's going to take over? Are you frightened of it? Do you own Bitcoin.

[David Spade]

These are questions they can ask us, right? And then we. We answer them.

[Dana Carvey]

You ask. We're experts.

[David Spade]

We're experts in every field.

[Dana Carvey]

Maybe I got this right. I just want to know. No, no, you got it right.

[David Spade]

They can ask anything they want.

[Dana Carvey]

We just say you're thinking about marrying someone, man or woman, and you want to tell us the situation. If you have doubts, we will. We will tell you whether to marry or not. We. We will maybe accidentally change your life with these questions. Or not. I'm not saying I have no ego about it, but feel free to ask us anything that's going on in your life. Life. Or I guess, do we want to.

[David Spade]

Invite politics, maybe anything. Religion, politics. We have foolproof answers for everything.

[Dana Carvey]

Nothing's off limits. And we do have the answer. David's nickname in real life, I'm just putting it out there, is the Oracle. When you need a advice or a question about finance or. Or life issues or anxiety and depression, how to defeat it. Anything. The Oracle, Yeah. AKA David Spade.

[David Spade]

Hey, guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app, give us a review, five star rating, and maybe even share an episode that you've loved with a friend.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey, an executive produced by Danny Carvey and David Spade, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman, Matty Sprung Keyser and Leah Rees Dennis of Odyssey.

[Dana Carvey]

Our senior producer is Greg Holtzman, and the show is produced and edited by Phil Sweet.

[David Spade]

Tech booking by Cultivated Entertainment.

[Dana Carvey]

Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kirk Courtney, and Lauren Vieira.

[David Spade]

Reach out with us. Any questions be asked and answered on the show? You can email [e-mail] that's a U D a C-Y dot com.