Josh Duhamel Got Dating Advice from James Caan

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

Episode: "Josh Duhamel Got Dating Advice from James Caan"

Date: June 11, 2026
Guest: Josh Duhamel
Hosts: Dana Carvey & David Spade
Podcast Host: Audacy

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Episode Overview

This episode features actor/director Josh Duhamel, who joins Dana Carvey and David Spade for a freewheeling, comedic, and nostalgic discussion about his Hollywood journey. The conversation covers Josh’s career highlights (from Las Vegas to Transformers to Buddy Games), his memorable mentorship by the late James Caan—including hilariously blunt dating advice—and his off-the-grid life in North Dakota. Along the way, the hosts riff with Josh about fame, directing, summer lake life, industry trends, and mishaps on set.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life in North Dakota & Montana Origins

[05:08 – 06:50]

• Josh describes his love for North Dakota, where he resides with his family, and his rural cabin on a Minnesota lake.
• Dana and David compare their own “fly-over state” roots.
• Funny banter about high school sports, weight “hacks” at team weigh-ins, and Montana vs. North Dakota bragging rights in ruggedness.

“I would slip little two and a half pound weights in the pocket so I could...look heavier for the weigh-in. Never admitted that to anybody.”
—Josh Duhamel (06:23)

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2. Early Acting Breaks & Movie Memories

[10:00 – 12:00]

• Josh recounts landing Win a Date with Tad Hamilton and the sitcom Las Vegas, emphasizing his journey from soap actor to feature films.
• Anecdotes about working with Kate Bosworth and Topher Grace, plus the dynamic cast of Las Vegas (with Molly Sims, Vanessa Marcil, and James Caan).

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3. James Caan’s Mentorship & Blunt Dating Advice

[12:37 – 15:55]

• Josh highlights James Caan as a formative influence—equal parts chaotic genius and lovable mentor.
• Shares the infamously candid dating advice Caan gave him before a big date:
  “Take her to Vibrato…and jerk off before you go on the date.”
  —James Caan (as recounted by Josh, 13:07 & 13:12)
• Discussion about Caan’s tough-guy persona, his need to “rile himself up” on set, and his improvisational gangster antics (e.g., threatening mock-violence with props for laughs).

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4. The Acting Mindset & Continuing to Learn

[21:49 – 23:41]

• Despite long-running credits, Josh admits he often questioned his own proficiency, augmenting his skills with workshops (e.g., rigorous Larry Moss seminars).
• Relates to most actors’ imposter syndrome: “I’m still not sure I’m all the way there, to be honest.” (21:49)

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5. Transformers Franchise & Working with Shia LaBeouf

[31:34 – 34:50]

• Josh discusses the Transformers blockbusters, working with Shia LaBeouf (“misunderstood, but amazing when sober”), and navigating Michael Bay’s intensity.
• Reveals wild stories like Shia arriving with a black eye on Transformers’ first day after a Dodgers game fight.

“He shows up with a black eye...like, oh my God, this kid just doesn't care.”
—Josh Duhamel (32:53)

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6. Buddy Games: Directing & Producing Hard-R Comedy

[25:13 – 29:35]

• Josh shares his passion for absurd comedy (Buddy Games), both starring and directing with a comedy ensemble, including Nick Swardson and Kevin Dillon.
• Discusses the challenges of directing, set injuries, and leadership (“I didn’t have to know everything; had to hire great people” —26:54).
• Talk about Nick Swardson’s sobriety and value as an on-set “joke puncher.”

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7. Friends & Ensemble Work (A Sandler Model?)

[41:34 – 42:29]

• The hosts explore the unique camaraderie of film sets, and how someone like Adam Sandler exemplifies maintaining a tight-knit creative “camp.”

“Every movie and every project...is like a summer camp. Everybody comes together...then it’s time to go home.”
—Josh Duhamel (42:19)

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8. Film Industry Trends: Tax Credits, LA Exodus, and Location Filming

[45:37 – 48:23]

• Timely discussion about Hollywood productions moving out of LA for favorable tax incentives (e.g., New Jersey, New Mexico, Dublin).
• Crew displacement and the impact on working professionals, not just stars.
• Witty takes on California’s “high-speed rail” funding vs. showbiz tax credits.

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9. North Dakota Cabin Life: Off the Grid & Less Hollywood

[50:25 – 54:04]

• Josh details piecing together 50 acres of Minnesota lake property—“for nothing”—and building up a rustic retreat (“My heart rate drops about 25. It’s good for the soul.” —53:14).
• Day-to-day includes fishing, boating, land management; “homesteading” with wells, solar, and limited amenities.

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10. Classic Music Video Cameo: ‘Genie in a Bottle’

[56:28 – 57:18]

• Josh jokes about being a blink-and-miss-it extra in Christina Aguilera’s iconic video, downplaying “the number one thing on [his] resume” (57:03).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• James Caan’s Advice:
  “Take her to Vibrato and jerk off before you go on the date.”
  —James Caan, via Josh Duhamel (13:12)

• On Acting Confidence:
  “I’m still not sure I’m all the way there, to be honest.”
  —Josh Duhamel (21:49)

• On Directing:
  “I realized I knew enough to know I didn’t have to know everything.”
  —Josh Duhamel (26:54)

• On Shia LaBeouf:
  “He’s misunderstood...but when he’s sober, he’s amazing.”
  —Josh Duhamel (32:22)

• On Film Sets:
  “Every movie...is like a summer camp...just getting to know everybody’s name, then it’s time to go home.”
  —Josh Duhamel (42:19)

• Lake Life:
  “My heart rate drops about 25. It’s good for the soul.”
  —Josh Duhamel (53:14)

• Industry Trends:
  “We lose the high-speed rail, and then we have showbiz 100% back...Just keep giving the high-speed rail money as tax incentives.”
  —David Spade (48:39)

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Segment Timestamps

• Josh joins & lake life beginnings: 05:08 – 06:50
• Early career & ‘Las Vegas’: 10:00 – 12:00
• James Caan mentorship & dating advice: 12:37 – 15:55
• Acting technique & self-doubt: 21:49 – 23:41
• Transformers/industry tales: 31:34 – 34:50
• Buddy Games/directing: 25:13 – 29:35
• Ensemble friendships/Sandler model: 41:34 – 42:29
• Hollywood tax incentives & moving productions: 45:37 – 48:23
• North Dakota cabin life: 50:25 – 54:04
• ‘Genie in a Bottle’ cameo: 56:28 – 57:18

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Tone & Rapport

The episode radiates the signature Fly on the Wall energy: riff-heavy, self-deprecating, quick-witted, and full of inside-Hollywood stories. Josh Duhamel fits the banter seamlessly, combining humility, gratitude, and Midwestern humor with honest reflections on his career and personal growth.

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For New Listeners

This episode is an ideal blend of heart, hilarity, and behind-the-scenes candor, full of surprising revelations and industry wisdom—anchored by Josh Duhamel’s affable storytelling and the legendary comedic chemistry of Carvey and Spade.

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Transcript

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I'm not gonna say who it was with, but I had my first date, Madonna, you know, And I said, jimmy, what do I do? I was really excited about this date and I didn't. And I just wanted to impress her. I didn't want to screw it up. And I said, what do I do? We're going out. He says, well, first of all, take her to Vibrato and jerk off before you go on the date. You don't have any. He told me, he told me to.

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I have heard this theory.

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You would find any excuse the scene had, any sort of physicality. He'd find a reason to pull a pencil out of his little thing. I'm going to stick it in your neck. He was like, well, that's not scripted.

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But in the show that's funny, but

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you're on a horse Galloping. And you're in this huge truck and I don't know. It just seems fun to me. I never. I'll never be offered that role. You know? It's like.

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And I never get to be the church lady. God damn it. Yeah. I want to be the church lady.

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Dana. Josh do Hamill. I think that's the pronunciation.

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I hope you're correct.

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It's pretty. That's what I say.

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I think that's it.

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I've known him briefly over the years. Always a gentleman, always a cool guy. Sense of humor. I knew he was going to be pretty easy because he's done a lot and we got to extract it because we're pros, man.

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It's unbelievable. You're gonna see, like. You're gonna hear about Transformers. You're gonna hear about James Khan. You're gonna hear about. When I give it away.

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Hello.

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You hear about his life in the mountains and the woods and the lakes.

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The grid on the grid, off the grid.

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You're gonna. About different actors. So I'd

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click it fast and furiously.

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Yeah.

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And I'm jealous. I would like to be in one of those Transformers. That would have been fun.

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I like to be said that there's

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a tennis ball up there. Act like it's Transformer.

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Oh, my God.

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It's Octo. Octopoulos. Whatever his name is.

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Hey, look at this can opener. Oh, no. It's a monster.

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Yeah. Oh, I opened it wrong. He's only got one leg. Yeah. We did get into Transformers. Yeah. Too. Yeah. I love sh.

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Yeah. Yeah. And so it's a. It's fun interview. He's extremely likable guy. Josh.

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Here we go. Josh Damel.

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David left. But anyway, we don't need him.

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I was.

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I thought you bailed. Come on.

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No, I felt bad for him because he didn't know anything.

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No. We've had guests. It takes 45 minutes, so. That was quick.

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I am so the least tech savvy person.

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You know.

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It's.

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Are you on the grid?

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I am in Los Angeles. Where are you guys?

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A farm?

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Are you.

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Common denominator?

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Horses Having a baby in July.

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Really? Where are you?

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Up. Up in Central California Somewhere between San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara.

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Nice. Beautiful up there.

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Thanks.

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But don't you go to North Dakota or do you live there mostly?

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Yeah, we live. We live in North Dakota, in Fargo. And we got a cabin about an hour and a half into Minnesota from there. Up in the woods.

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Wow. I. You know the cabinet on a lake? I. Because I. I read about you. A couple days is magic.

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Oh yeah. We've been cramming.

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I'm from Montana. There's not a competition. You know, we, We. We can kick ass. We want to. But I actually played Minet North Dakota, and I never forgot it.

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You're kidding me.

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I did.

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What?

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I did a. I did a standup gig in Minot.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Minet, my mi. Right.

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That's my home. My hometown back.

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Backup quarterback.

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Yeah. You know. Jesus. Dana, check.

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What was your height and weight as a senior in high school? Were you an early mature like, or did you grow later?

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I was pretty tall, but very skinny. I remember I wanted to get to £200. And I. And I put these. And we used to wear these. These like stretchy pants underneath our football pants. And they had little pockets in them for. For pads.

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Sure.

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And I would slip little two and a half pound weights in the pocket so that I could. We. I never quite. And I got to 199. That was. That was the most I ever weighed.

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So the little weights in the stretchy pants built up your legs and created.

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No, no, no. They just made me look heavier. They made me weigh in. Yeah, no, just, just, just when we weighed. I didn't. I didn't play with those weights anymore.

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Oh, for the weigh in. You hacked it with these little weights. Goes.

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First time I've ever admitted that to anybody.

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Yeah,

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we're not going to report it, but I think that's pretty close.

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I put a kettlebell in my underpants. Sometimes when I go to clubs.

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You put a word in there.

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A kettlebell.

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A really tiny kettle.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Just for extra. Extra. It's all right.

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With true confessions, I tell everyone that

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though I was 91 pounds 5ft tall when I entered. When I entered high school, I got my ass kicked a lot.

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They let you in with those measurements.

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Look, I played D basketball in those days. There was varsity, junior varsity, C basketball, D basketball. And this is not a joke. I've said it before. But our center, the man who controlled the paint, was five, four. I'm not kidding. He controlled the game. Yeah.

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Is any video of this? This is something I like to see.

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It was a long way up. When you're five feet tall and you're shooting a free throw.

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Listen, we'll get to John. I was 7 with full pads. I weighed 114 with full pads, 134. And I went out for football and I got smeared like Lucas, the coach let me. Let me talk to you. And he took me to the sideline. Let me talk to you. Took me to the parking lot. And he's like, all right, get in here. Get out of here. You cannot be. He said, I'm saving your life.

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I know the real story. He said, get the fuck out of here. Remember he slapped your face?

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Yeah.

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We don't want to go there. Oh, I went off for.

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That was okay. You could actually do it back then. Yeah.

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Coaches were supposed to rough you up. It's like, I don't know what happened.

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We were definitely. Our coach would take you out behind the woodshed, and he would threaten to take you behind the woodshed. You never knew what happened behind the woodshed, but he would say, I will. I you, not. I will take you behind the woodshed.

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Oh, wait. He would take you behind the woodshed and then say he'll take you behind the woodshed. And you're like, we're already here. What do you.

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I don't know. No one wants to be taken behind a woodshed. No, I don't think. John, you were never.

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I'd be more worried about sexual things happening.

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Worried or kind of interested?

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Just wondering. What? What, What?

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All right. Josh is our guest.

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No, no. Go on.

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No, Josh. Sorry. Josh, you're going to talk toward the end.

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We're fascinated. Have you ever run across John Corbett?

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Yes, I worked with John Corbett.

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I figured that guy's worked with everybody, and I figured you two, which.

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I worked on a movie called Ramona and Beezus with him.

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Yeah, let's look at a clip.

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Yeah, Selena Gomez was in the movie.

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That's right.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically. Remember the Beezus. Ramona and Beezus. I don't know if you remember those.

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I think they paid her in followers.

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Yeah.

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John Corbett. John Corbett. Quick, quick impression. Yeah. Yeah. I got a buddy. Sorry, that's it. He knows everyone. I got a buddy. I mean, he knows everybody. The guy's. He's a friend. He's fun, you know, I'm sure you guys.

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He lives up. Doesn't he live up there in that area?

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Yeah, yeah, he's very cool.

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What's the movie where you win A Date with Tad Hamilton?

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So Win a Date with Tad Hamilton was my very first break into this industry back.

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That was a big break. Wasn't it?

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Two. I think it was 2001 or two. Yeah, it was. That was my. That was my first, you know, real job in this business. I did All My Children. I guess that was a real job, too. Three years before that, but, you know, so I got Las Vegas and then I got win a date with that Hamilton right around the same time. So I thought I was just okay take off, which never really happened, but it was. It was a. It was an interesting.

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Your resume is pretty stout, Josh.

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You were a movie star and you go to a small town and you. You. Someone wins a day with you and is it Kate Bosworth? Who is it?

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It's Kate Bosworth.

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Okay.

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And she was dating Topher Grace at the Piggly Wiggly.

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Oh, that's all right.

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They worked at the Piggly Wiggly. And I. And I strolled into town like a big shot and tried to steal this girl. Didn't work out in the end for me, but, you know, it couldn't.

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In the movies. It couldn't. She had to run back to the bag boy.

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Yeah.

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Damn.

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I like that. I saw that movie. I like it. I like that. And Vegas with Molly Sims. Vegas was on for a long time.

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Wasn't James Con on that?

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Or was it James Con was on that? Vanessa Marcel, Molly Sims.

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That was a cool show.

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Yeah. Jimmy KH was.

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Tell us about Jimmy kh, please.

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He was just. He's one of those guys that. That I. I learned more from Jimmy than anybody else. And mostly he would be like, you do what I say, not what I do, you know, because the guy would admittedly say that he made a lot of mistakes, but was one of the most honest people that I've ever worked with. He operated really well with chaos all around him. So he always tried to create. He needed like, some to talk about some. Somebody to. Somebody to be pissed off at on the set, whether it was the writers or the DP or the network or whoever it was. He needed that in order to, like, rile himself up. But ultimately always showed up. He would hang out with anybody on set at all times. He was just one of those guys that you just absolutely adore and didn't care, you know, he just sort of said what was on his mind without any thought of repercussions. And I think that's what I admired the most about him. And he, you know, gave me some. Some really interesting advice back in the day, not only about acting, but also about dating. I don't know if we can share that here, but it was not.

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You can share anything here.

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Ye.

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We. I'm intrigued by this, so go ahead.

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I had a date. I had a date. I'm not going to say who it was with, but I had my first date, Madonna, you know, And I said, jimmy, what do I do? I was really excited about this Date. And I didn't want. And I just wanted to impress her and I didn't want to screw it up. And I said, what do I do? You know, we're going out. And he says, well, first of all, take her to Vibrato.

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I know.

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You guys ever been to Vibrato, the restaurant. Beverly Glenn.

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Yeah.

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And. And jerk off before you go on the dates. He told me. He told me to.

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I have heard this theory before I

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went on the dates that I didn't have any sort of horny.

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I knew a comedian who would do that.

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Really? Every time he would go on. Every time he would go. Before he'd go on stage?

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No, before he'd go on a date, after the show, he would take care of his sexual urges so he wouldn't wake up going, what?

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That's something I've heard. And it's. I never practiced it because.

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Except before podcasts, right? I mean.

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Yeah, well, that's different because that's business.

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That was.

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That was his sage advice for me.

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And did you follow it or no?

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Probably.

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All right. I couldn't wait to say. At that time, he was.

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He's been holding that go to the clip thing for like two minutes.

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He knew.

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He waited for the opening. Yeah, but isn't it something about New York guys have been around for a while. You know, they're like, hey, here's what you want. Here's what you're gonna want to do. Okay.

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Yeah.

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This is the way you're gonna handle this guy?

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Do this.

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Yeah.

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It's like Joe Pesci was hosting snl. And he goes, yeah. And I didn't know how much was acting, how much was Joe? And you go, you know, what are you. When are you going to fight? You got to ask yourself, when are you going to fight? I say, fuck it. It's a sugar bowl across the nose. And you could tell that he'd done that in life. Someone was with sugar bowl across the nose.

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I think guys right there are acting like people want them to act, like from Goodfellas. Like, that's his Persona. He likes it. And then he's like, I'm the tough guy. And then he almost turns into that. I think James Caan probably gets asked about Godfather, Sonny his whole life. And so he's just like, he's got a built in cool factor just from that, by the way.

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Oh, my God.

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Yeah, he would. He would find any excuse, if the scene had any sort of physicality. He'd find a reason to pull a pencil out of his little Thing, and I'm going to stick it in your neck. It was like, well, that's not scripted,

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but in the show, that's fine. That's gangster. Yeah.

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And I always. And I was pretty green when I first started this show. I mean, I hadn't done much at all. And I was really open to learning from this guy, obviously, because he's. He's James Khan. But he would say we'd be in the middle of a scene in between takes. I knew that. I knew that I was going to get a talking to, and he'd be like, give me a. Come here for a minute with Jose.

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That's very new.

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And he would give me advice on what I should do, what I could do better. And, you know, I actually learned a lot from that guy.

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It's good if you take it, or at least fake take it, because that's when fights can happen. It sounds condescending, but if you're taking from someone in the Godfather, you go, I'll hear you out. You know, I'll hear what you say. Maybe something will ring true and I can tweak it.

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What was it? What was it like in general? Was it really short, quick statements, you know, Jimmy advising you about the scene? Here's how you can improve. And it'd be like, where? Was it confusing or was it just like, really clean and. And helpful?

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It was. God, I don't remember exactly, but it was usually pretty long winded, if I remember correctly. All right, guys, it's time to. It's time to get back to, you know, he. He didn't care about time. The golden hour. He'll go.

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He'll.

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We'll go when we're ready. But. But, yeah, that was. That was five years we shot that show.

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Yeah.

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And it was one of the more memorable experiences I've had in this business. It's been half a lifetime ago now. Damn.

[A]

Was Vegas shot in Vegas? It sounds like a dumb question.

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We shot the first episode there, and then when we got picked up, we shot the pilot there and then we got picked up. They built a big casino on a. Sounds different.

[B]

108 shows. Do you still get checks?

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If I do, it's not enough for my business energy to tell me about it.

[A]

Is that where you met Molly Sims, who is also in Bench Warmers and the wrong Missy?

[C]

Oh, yes, that is where I met Molly.

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Lovely lady.

[C]

How long have you two known each other?

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Agree.

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Could we just talk about you two for a minute?

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We like taking questions.

[A]

We're not dating anymore. Me and Dana, we're just sort of working friends.

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He's picked his team, and we're cool with it.

[A]

Here's the advice Dana gave me when I was acting on snl. He goes, hey, come here. And I run. He goes, what are you doing? I'm sorry. What are you doing in this scene? I'm like, that's not a very constructive.

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And I would wear the tank top, and I have a wad of cash in my back pocket. I go, hey, hey, David, you know, this next scene, he do me a favor, do me a favor. You know what I mean? Try to be funny, all right? And I hand him, like, five twenties. Do me a favor. That's very New York, because how do

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you not know your lines are on cue cards? Yeah, I don't know.

[B]

Read the card, David. Come on, man. I'm sick of this.

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I met Dana. I don't know where I met Dana. I used to like him because he was funny, comic. And then I would see him.

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Clubs, clubs. Pre snl, David was right out of high school, literally. And. And then he was around the clubs before I got on an SNL. And 86.

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No, easy. Easy with no.

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I know. Let's just say a while back,

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[B]

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[C]

Well, I mean, it's, it's. I mean, I'm, I'm still not sure I'm all the way there, to be honest.

[A]

That's everyone's feeling. I agree with you. Even Vegas and Tad Hamilton, to a normal person, be like, great looking guy, two things going, he's set for life. And you're like, didn't even cross my mind. I was set for life. I was just like, what if they both don't work? I'm right back to zero. That's the reality of it. It's so serious.

[C]

And it's still the reality. You know, it's. I, I still have that same mentality, I think. But, you know, to answer your question, Dan, I would. I was bound and determined to be proficient at this. And I knew that I wasn't in the beginning and I needed to be if I wanted to stay in the game. I Had to keep working at it. So I would be taking these. These workshops from Larry Moss. I'd be taking classes on the side, especially in the earlier days and even up until recently, just to, you know, scare myself a little bit. Those Larry Moss seminars were two weeks, and you would put, like, big chunks of, like, a Eugene o' Neill play up on stage or Tennessee Williams or whatever it was, and you have to rehearse with your partner with all the props and the whole thing. You put it up in front of, you know, the whole class, which is a small theater. So that was the closest I ever got to doing theater, but it was terrifying. And I think that that's. That's the kind of stuff I did just to keep myself smart, you know,

[A]

all those things help, I think.

[B]

Yeah, we've heard that story a lot by people, really. You know, when I was. I watched the first episode of the Western Ransom Canyon, and I. And I just thought you were really in the pocket. I don't know how you felt about it, but I just felt you were very. There was a lot to do in that first episode. I don't know. I don't know how you felt about that.

[C]

I really enjoy the show, actually. You know, I felt like it really sort of found it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, it was a little soft, and I thought in the beginning. But then it gets. It gets much. It just keeps getting better and better. And I think the second season is. Is an extension of that. But, you know, I work. April Blair is the writer, or the head writer, the showrunner, and she just runs a great set, lets us really sort of, you know, offer our thoughts and our ideas, and she's really open to that kind of stuff, which I love, because, you know, I want this character to feel as authentic as I can make him. And she's open to that.

[B]

Isn't it fun to kind of play the alpha? You know, I mean, he's kind of a badass. But you're sensitive. At least what I saw. But you're on a horse galloping, and you're in this huge truck, and I don't know, it just seems fun to me. I've never. I'll never be offered that role. You know, it's like.

[C]

And I never get to be the church lady. God damn it. Yeah, I want to be the church lady.

[B]

I'm writing a movie starting tomorrow, and you're going to be the church lady.

[C]

Perfect.

[B]

Well, it's a little thing called growth hormones. We're larger now. Get used to it. Yeah, you can see you Doing that. I mean, do you have a thing where you feel like you were in Transformers this and that? Do you have a thing to do, a wacky comedy, if you felt you've done a really wacky one, almost like Wayne's World or Joe Dirt or, you know.

[C]

Well, those are, those are truly my. Those are my favorite movies, to be honest. That's why I'm so stoked to be on the show today.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

I'm a huge fan of both of you, honestly. I'm not just saying that because I'm here, but I do. I love fairly movies. I love Adam Sandler movies, I love Todd Phillips and all those guys. And you know, we did a movie, I directed it a couple years ago, we did two of them now called Buddy Games, which is just ridiculous.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[C]

They're hard. Ours, our boy Nick, sadly, with Nick Swartz.

[B]

And we wanted to ask you about that. Two things. One is you're directing these movies, so you're making that leap their balls out. R rated funny. And you have Nick Swartz and what could go wrong? And Olivia and, and Kevin Dillon and at least in the first one, was

[C]

in it James Roday. Yeah, we had a really funny cast, man, that was just like, you know, that talk about terrifying. Directing was like something I always wanted to do and felt like I could, but didn't think I knew enough. But then I realized that I knew enough to know that I didn't have to know everything and just surrounded myself with really good people like Nick.

[A]

What does the hard part come in? Do you come in and, you know, you've got, as a director opposed to being an actor. So you've got to be part of all the prep. It's, it's. Sometimes it seems so much prep that once you're there, 90% of the hard stuff is done because there's so many decisions. Then you're like, now we just gotta go. But that's gotta be hard because I'm not in those. When you're not directing. So you set up and everything's ready and you know, you can tweak things, but you've gotta go with what you got. So that's probably a lot of the hard part.

[C]

Yeah, it's all about the prep, for sure. But even, even, even when you're prepped, things rarely go to plan.

[A]

Exactly, exactly.

[C]

Because you never have enough time or money or, you know, weather or, you

[A]

know, change locations last minute. You're like, I gotta do this whole season. This. Now does this make any sense?

[C]

Yeah. Dan, back at all, broke his leg.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

At the exact halfway point of the first movie. I mean, we built this big slide, and he. He kind of. He wanted to do it. We. He was supposed to have a stunt gap. He's like, I'm gonna do it. And sure enough, he's going down feet first. Should have gone head first, turns, bangs the crap out of his leg, and he had this. It wasn't a break. It was called a sub. Sub. Subdermal hematoma, I think is what they called it. Was almost worse than a break. And he couldn't walk for the rest of the movie. He literally had to sit down in between takes and raise his leg up. And so any. Anytime we had him moving, we had to throw in this body double. And so that, of course, threw a huge wrench into things. We had to change the way we shot scenes and everything else, but, man, that guy was a warrior. He battled through it, you know, it was a rough one, but you'd never know watching the movie. But it's things like that, you just have to be able to make decisions and be able to switch on the fly. And when you have a really good actors and a good DP and a good crew, you're able to do it. And that's really what I needed, was all those things to pull.

[B]

Yeah. I used to think it was just knowing lenses when I was younger, like, technical things. And now I realize what Spielberg has, just using his example is blink. I mean, all the other stuff can be learned, but then it's like in the moment, oh, we got it. That's funny. Or that's going to work. And so that's all the director, the sensibility, if it comes through one guy's sensibility is usually better than having too many cooks, you know? Yeah.

[C]

And I think that there's a lot of different. Some. Some directors are much more technical. They do understand every lens. And I wish I'd have paid more attention, honestly, early in my career, so I would have known more about that stuff. But it's just about your relationship with

[B]

your dp and being DP does that. Yeah.

[A]

But if you say, we're gonna do a two shot here, does he say, suggest the lens? Does he even mention it? Or does he say, I think we should do this? And you go, I get what you mean. Okay, that makes sense.

[C]

Yeah. Or they'll show you through their little thing. They're able to take their phone now and just sort of say, okay, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, with a phone. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

And they can. They can tell you what the shot looks like, and they have different lenses that show you like. Okay, so this is what.

[A]

Oh, that's great. Yeah.

[C]

So, yeah, I mean, there's a million things you can do, but really, it's. It's about the prep. It's about the, you know, getting it through all of the landmines that come about while shooting. And then the fun part is really editing. That's.

[B]

Yeah, that's where the movie gets.

[A]

You can find a movie in there, and you got to just tell Nick to bring it down a million percent every couple minutes.

[C]

Nick is actually. Nick is actually that guy. I'm just so proud of that dude. He's sober now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And yeah, while we shot, he was always. He never drank, you know, which was really impressive.

[A]

It is for. Yeah, it's true. I was with him. Yeah, it's true. He. He.

[C]

And he sits on set all day, every day and sort of sits and punches up jokes and. Extremely helpful.

[A]

He's great for that. He was that on the wrong miss. He was that on do over. He would sit you guys together a lot, haven't you? Yeah, it's not great, but. Yeah, listen, it's not great news, but it's news. No, I have sushi with him, and he. And I know he's not drinking because he's always grouchy. Do we have to go where you want to go? Why the are you always like, I go, Nick, you live downtown. Why am I going downtown for anything? I don't even want to go to a Lakers game down there and get gunned down.

[C]

He's living downtown now.

[A]

Yeah, go come to where people actually live, David.

[B]

Downtown.

[C]

I thought he lived over by Barney's Beanery.

[A]

He lives by behind Koi. He did for a long time. Barney's Beanery area. I always thought he had a tunnel into Barney's bery because he was there so much. I go, no one's actually seen you except there. Do you go under? Pops up like a meerkat

[B]

meat.

[A]

You have in a movie, you can get meerkat manor. If you have him in a movie, you're gonna get laughs. And also he can help punch up. So he's valuable. Yeah.

[B]

And it's just a very sweet person, you know?

[C]

He really is. And he's a Vikings fan, which doesn't hurt.

[B]

He does like the Vikings. So you're from North Dakota. What's your team? Where do you intersect?

[C]

Also Vikings twins.

[B]

Timberland. Okay. Because you're close.

[A]

Because you're In Minnesota. Now, I was listening.

[B]

Lake. Lake house.

[A]

Yeah. And I. I have questions. When you do Transformers, we're jumping around, but Transformers. Oh, a couple people saw it. I heard some applause.

[B]

Three.

[A]

Three of them. And is Shia in any of these at this point or not?

[C]

Yeah. So Shia was in the first three, and then I didn't do the fourth, and I ended up doing the fifth. But, yeah, I worked with Shy on the first three.

[A]

Oh, you were in three, and then another one.

[C]

No, 1, 2 and 3, and then 5.

[A]

Oh, so you were. Okay. You were in. Wow. Great. Shia. I mean, it seems, first of all, he's pretty good actor and he seems like a cool dude, but I know he steps in a lot, but. But I feel like, was he cool that he seems like a cool dude.

[C]

I love him. I really do.

[A]

Oh, good. Okay.

[C]

You know, he's misunderstood. He's a little bit complicated, I guess.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

But also, when he's sober, he's amazing. You know, I'm not sure where he's at now with all that, but he was. He was just a kid when we started. I mean, he was. I mean, true story. We're at. I'm at the airport flying to New Mexico for the first day of shooting this movie, which was a giant break for me. I was like, huge movie.

[B]

Michael Bay. Yeah.

[C]

And Shia, who was this kid, you know, I think he was 17 or 18 years old, shows up with a black eye at the airport. He went to a Dodgers game the night before and got into a fight in the parking lot after the game, like two days.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[C]

And I was like, oh, my God, this kid just doesn't care.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But, you know, not that he doesn't care about the work. He just. He just full on, sort of like Jimmy in a lot of ways, but super talented.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

A sweetheart of a guy, and I got nothing but love for him, honestly.

[A]

And the movies work. I mean. And you were there for the Megan Fox ones, too, right?

[C]

Yep.

[A]

And you had. And then she did. How many? Just one.

[C]

I think she did the first two, didn't she? I don't remember.

[A]

I think it's more than one. And then it was in Australia. I mean, they kind of. It's always going to be once she was out. They're like, okay, we need something gorgeous. We need a gorgeous girl. Not something. We need gorgeous actors. And they can act. And it's. And they were coming through.

[C]

Yeah. He's got a. He's got an eye for that. Michael Bay. He knows. He knows how to find him.

[B]

He knows, he knows who he's doing. I just want to mention about Shiloh is the movie he did about his dad. Explained a lot.

[A]

Honey bear or something.

[B]

Yeah, it was so twisted. It was such a. Twisted to have a parent jealous of your success and all the competition and.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I think that's where a lot of the complication came from. I mean, I don't know for sure

[B]

what the story is, but he's, he's a, he can be brilliant as an actor. He's incredible.

[C]

Yeah. Incredible actor.

[B]

He really is.

[C]

He is super intense and is able to access that so quickly. I was mostly impressed at how, just how talented he was. Fearless. Because, you know, he was the lead of this big movie and just like went for it, you know.

[B]

I just have to ask you, because it's in my head, did they, what did they do about the black eye? Did they have you punch him the first day or something?

[A]

I don't remember what you're shooting at the sequence too.

[C]

What were you thinking getting into a fight like the night before, walking away,

[B]

hey, dude, I'm starting a 300 million dollar movie. Yeah, you're, you're a good man. I'm weak.

[A]

I say we have to get out of any fight. I'm starting a 300 million dollar movie tomorrow, guys, or I would just beat the out of everyone in here. Then they go, I thought it was bus Boys. I go, it's. The budget's getting up there.

[B]

When someone says to you in a parking lot, what are you looking at? You got to say nothing. Goodbye. You can't. You don't go, what? What do you mean? What are you looking at? What are you looking at? Hey, do me a favor, get the out of here. You know, Jesus, I just want to do that character all day. Once you said Joe Pesci, I'm off with the races. So the thing about directing, like everyone has always said, just direct. You can't spend your story. So how much better did you feel with the second one? The sequel, Buddy Game, Spring Awakening? Because there was a second one.

[C]

Yes, I feel better. I felt a little bit more confident, I guess that I could, that I knew what, you know, what to look out for, you know, because the first time you're, you're doing anything like that, you obviously make a bunch of mistakes and you learn from those. But. But then the second one just presented a whole new slew of challenges. Okay, but it was, but it really was a lot. I mean, it was. I just love those guys. Roday Bacall. Swartz and Dylan, they're all just such great guys and really sort of patient. So they came ready to go, not ready to adapt. Yeah. And they were great. And I think that when you have guys like that, it just makes it a lot easier.

[A]

Do you get to use your first ad, your dp? Did you try to get everyone sort of the same because you had a system at that point?

[C]

Yes, a lot. We had a lot of the same crew there. Some are gone in kind of the same area. Some of it, you know, some of them are off working somewhere else, but for the most part we had the same team.

[A]

Were they both in the same city? I'm sorry to interrupt you. Were they the same city?

[C]

No. Well, no, because it was. It was Vancouver is. But we were out at this thing, place called Lake Harrison for the second one. So.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, it was complications too. It's different crew. You, You. You have to use some local crew. You have to use some local talent. Right. I mean, maybe I'm crazy. This is what used to.

[C]

No, that's, That's. It'd be nice to be able to work with the same people all the time, but people get jobs elsewhere available. So like my dp, I didn't get to use the same DP because his mother was sick. He was from the UK and he couldn't make it. So we had a different DP who was also very.

[A]

Also. Sometimes you're saying, hey, we're starting in January. And then they clear it. And then you go, it got pushed to April. And they're like, I got to take something. And then it's so complicated that you go, yeah, yeah. That's the hard part about it. That's. Especially if it's under a 30 million dollar. But if it's not like a tent pole, it's something they just are locked into. Things can be moved, things get pushed, people fall out. It's tough coordinate.

[C]

Yeah. But you know, the thing that I, that I've really learned from this, and I think it was just in general for me in all facets, was that I was able to. One of the things I guess I'm most proud of was I was able to get, you know, whether it's my, my wardrobe or my hair and makeup team or my art department, I let them go do their. I said, okay. I gave them an idea of what I want and I let them be the artists that they are rather than try to micromanage it too much because then they felt enlisted in going out and sort of walking through walls. Because then it was like all of us were moving in the same direction, you know, And I've worked with directors, all different kinds of directors, some that were micromanaging and some. And they. You know, everybody's kind of operating out of a sense of fear. And there are some that felt like they were all part of a thing where we're all. We're all working towards the same objective. We really did a good job of that, you know, because we didn't have a lot of money or a lot of time, and we had to get these Days shot or we didn't. We just wouldn't get it.

[B]

So when you do seem like actors make better directors, often because they know what it's like, you're so vulnerable, and the camera's on you, the crew's watching, you're doing multiple takes, or maybe you blew a few lines. And so anyway, I just assume you'd be naturally good at it, you know, just because you're experience on the other side.

[C]

I don't have any big studios knocking on my door, so I don't know how good at it I am.

[A]

Well, do you ask. Do you ask Ransom Canyon if. Down the. You can do it?

[B]

Yeah. Josh, do a Hamil. Yeah. Transformers. Of course. All right. Thanks, Stephen. Spielberg.

[C]

Oh, good.

[B]

Gonna call you.

[C]

Oh, good.

[B]

I was gonna ask you, being a leading man, like, it wasn't something that Dave. Well, David did some romantic things. Did you ever have somebody that you either kind of fell in love with secretly or you knew that they had fallen in love with you without. You don't have to name names. I'm not looking for a trend, but, you know, on a.

[C]

On set with like a. Like a.

[B]

Like, yeah. Kristen Bell, Jennifer Lopez.

[C]

No, no, no, no. I never did. Thank God. No. Minka, Kelly, they all had significant others, but even then, it's like I just knew how problematic.

[A]

Messy.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. So I just.

[C]

I haven't been perfect, but I have never gotten romantically involved with her. And plus, I was always, you know, either in a relationship or marriage. No, no.

[A]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

Sorry. I got that off my list. I.

[A]

You know, there's always beautiful people in the showbiz, so I can see. I can see why it happens in the world. And the hard thing is going for movies, even friendships, you're, like, so locked with people, especially you, when you're directing with your whole crew, and then everyone splits. It's such a. It's such a weird mind that people don't really take into consideration. And then the next One, you. You sort of have to slowly get to know everybody. And then by the end, the rap party, you're like, way we're leaving, and then everyone just gone. And you might never talk to me again in your life. You might stay in touch, but everyone's busy and work is the best way to keep friends together. Because if you all have to be somewhere, common goal, then you stay in. It's very hard to keep it going.

[C]

I feel like Sandler's done a really good job of that, hasn't he?

[A]

That's why we're all crazy.

[B]

Sandler's a singularity. There's no one like Adam Sandler in terms of the amount of work he does, how loyal he is to his friends. I mean, they're gonna do grown Ups. Three. That's out, right? So, I mean, there are the pastors back together. Chris. Yeah, I mean, Rob, Schneider, David.

[C]

I mean, he's the best example of. I think what David just said is, you know, keeping, you know, that, that team or those, that group of friends together. But it's hard to do. And every movie and every project, as you guys know, is like a summer camp. Everybody comes together and it's like you, you're just getting to know everybody's name and then it's time to go home.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then you do, and then you do it again. But it's like building a little business for however long this production is on, and then it all goes away and then you go on to the next one.

[A]

So for Sandy purposes, it helps to have be around the same people. Just like so odd because la, you know, you're in Vancouver, Schwartz and goes this, you know, I have friends here. Then everyone splits off and stand up. Comedians, your friends, are they on the road? It's same kind of thing. No one's really one spot for too long.

[C]

No, we're all. We're all vagabonds.

[B]

Summer, what do you think about summer coming up?

[A]

Sneaks up on me. Yeah, I know it is coming up. I'm trying to juggle plans, juggle meals and enjoy the weather. Instacart's made that easier. I can sit outside, build my car with everything I need for the week, not have to step away from what I'm doing.

[B]

I've been leaning on delivery through Instacart for meal prep especially David, like getting fresh veggies, proteins, even those perfectly ripe avocado. I set my preferences once and it's so seamless. It saves me a lot of time and makes sure I'm getting all the quality I want and the convenience is huge.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[C]

What do you think about the. The chance that, you know, production starts coming back to Los Angeles? I'm hearing some I know that's on the top of mind for some of these politics, some of these especially the mayoral candidates. But I think they're going to do anything about it.

[A]

What do you think the first step is? Tax breaks. Try to compete with all these places.

[B]

Sandler did Happy Gilmore in New Jersey and this is what I read. I'm not so it's in whatever. Hollywood Reporter just, it was 150 million dollar budget and then they got it down to a 90 billion. A million dollar budget because of the tax credits, however that works. But in Los Angeles, no, in New Jersey, like Netflix is moving their major headquarters to New Jersey. New Jersey, at least in the states is saying come on down. But California didn't keep up. It's got a lot of pensions to pay. It's. It's got a lot of money going elsewhere. So it wasn't easy. But they weren't matching New Orleans or now even Toronto. People are going to Romania, as you know, London, Ireland, we shoot, we shoot.

[C]

Ransom Canyon, New Mexico. They got a huge. Netflix is a huge.

[B]

Yeah. Campus. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And that's what it is. I mean, when I do a movie or TV show, it's literally someone, first of all, they say they don't even consider la. They go, they look at some. It's really just a chart. They go, this one gives 13% tax break. So let's say you spend this much money, you get money back and that's a $20 million movie can be shot for, you know, 16 million. They say 4 million. That's all they want to hear. And here it costs 20 or more.

[B]

So it's all, it's all Math told us about his game show the Floor, and that they just had to move the entire American contest, everybody to Dublin. Really, To Dublin. Rob Lowe's game show the Floor has to be done in Dublin because you can shoot for three weeks there at the same price of one day or something. Incredible, the differential. So, but the good news is, is like you can. No one knows where anyone is anymore. Like you can, you can just be in Minot or whatever. We're just going to zoom in or know. No one has to be. In the olden days, you got to go to Sardis and have a drink and your manager would network. And now it's just. I don't know if it'll ever come back to where it was. Paramount is trying to do it. The Ellison twins or whatever.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I mean, it'd be nice to work at work here once in a while.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And you know, it just feels like fewer and fewer things are being shot here. And you know, it's fine if you're, if we can go elsewhere and work, but what about the crew that lives here in that.

[B]

That's the really sad part. All those people, a lot of them have had to move and scrambling for money. And that's the real. Because the so called Stars are. They can move around, but yeah, they're fixed in one place and they're professional set designers and grips and all that.

[A]

How about we lose the high speed rail and then we have showbiz back 100% back? Just keep giving the high spiel. Rail money is tax incentives because $20

[B]

billion gets you a mile. I'm not even saying that's a good or bad thing. I'm just saying 20 billion gets you.

[A]

I want to bid on that. I can beat that.

[B]

I would love. I like European high speed trains. I don't really like airports or flying. I would love a high speed train, but it started when I was in 8th grade and I have to live to 140 to ride on it. Other than that, it's terrific to have it.

[A]

It's not even built yet. They're like, I've seen some renderings. I go, I've seen them for 10 years. When do they make it?

[B]

I don't know. What's the, What's North Dakota like? Is it a pretty high school? What's their state tax? Well, whenever you feel you're a resident.

[C]

Resident of North Dakota.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Oh, wow. Smart.

[C]

And I can tell you I've been a resident there for years. But yeah, my wife is from there. You know, our house is there.

[B]

I love Montana. I love North Dakota. I love that part of America. I love the mountains. I mean, west western Montana in the, in the summer, it's a love fest. But so you, you. That's great. So you're not. It gets pretty thirsty down here, as David would say. As far as taxes. It's pretty, pretty. Yeah, it does.

[C]

It's crazy. It's crazy. I. And it would be one thing if I knew where they were going, but I just look around like where we pay more taxes. Minnesota is also really bad for taxes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But got your own things up there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'd like to kind of. I just want to know for a second, like, what are you, what do you like out in the world in, up in North Dakota, everyone leaves you alone. You wear a baseball cap. You're just, you're just blend in. And then when you're on your lake house, you're just going to the. Are you to fish there? Do you water ski? I mean, what do you. What's your life up in those mountains?

[C]

So we have a, we have a. Our place in Fargo, which is, you know, Fargo is actually a bustling little town. It really is. There's a lot of.

[A]

It's like a real city, right?

[C]

Yeah. It's really fun town too. I mean, people know of it from the movies and the TV shows, and it's. It's. It's very different than that. But. But, you know, it's. I just. I just love North Dakota. I love the people there. I love how. I love this, the way they live their lives. It's very. It's a little bit slower.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not everyone's talking about politics.

[C]

No, the cabin life is just kind of my. It's just absolute freedom out there. So I bought over the last 15, 16, maybe 17 years now. I bought like a little half a parcel for 1212 acres for like, nothing. And then the other half of that parcel went up for sale when the old guy Cody died. Then I had then a 26 acres with a little cat, little shack of a cabin with no electricity, no water, but it was a cabin. It was a structure. I got a cabin. I'm not gonna sleep there with the rats or the mice or the raccoons. And then the one next to that went up for sale. So it was like I had. Now I had that. I got it for nothing. I'll tell you. I'll tell you what I paid for 189, 000 for 26 acres.

[A]

I'll give you one.

[B]

And right on the water.

[C]

Yeah. So it was like, you know, the amount you can get there versus what you pay for it here is crazy.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

I'm not sure I would be able to get it for that now. But then all of a sudden I had two little cabins and like 50 acres on this place. And I never planned to do that. I just wanted something out there somewhere that I could just get away and go, you know, fish and stuff like that. Well, it's turned into like a whole passion of mine because I just love. And I started moving dirt and I started shaping it and. And, you know, and then we built. We actually built a property because the other two were so small we couldn't have any families. Like, these cabins are so small. They're just big enough for three people or family of three. And so, you know, it's what I think I love the most about it is I just get out there and it's just. My heart rate drops about 25. It's just much less of that. My priorities change too. I feel like I have purpose by. You know, I'm always working on something where I don't even mow my own lawn. Here I just, you know.

[B]

Are you homesteading or did you get services? Did you get water from the city and hook it up.

[C]

Well, we had to dig wells. Each one of the cabins has a well. We operate off propane, solar. You know, for the first few years was, you know, there was no water. There was no bathroom in the. We had electricity in the little cabin, the first. The second one, but no water. So we were, like, washing our dishes in the lake. And it was. It was like homesteading. But I loved it, you know, it was, like, so different than anything I'd ever done before.

[A]

That's Dana's place right now.

[B]

I like all that. Everything you're talking about, about. I. I love being on a lake, Montana. It is just magic. There's a vibe and an atmosphere you can't quite describe, but it's. It's completely different. I mean.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's awesome that you do that.

[C]

You know, it's good for the soul.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then a week later, you're on a night shoot somewhere in Atlanta.

[B]

You're like, it might be rude, but I'm playing Minneapolis and I kind of like to take a little vacation. I mean, I. I'm not going to say what's the address and where's the Heidekey, but I'm just saying hi to kids. I would like.

[C]

Hey, you are welcome anytime, man. And I mean that. I mean it. You can take. You can take the little red cabin on the water.

[B]

I like the sound of that.

[C]

It's really. It's really cute.

[B]

Yes. And would you have a boat? Do you have a little fisher boat or do you have, like, a speedboat or you have a canoe?

[C]

We just bought. Just splurged and bought a pontoon because I hadn't. Ours was old.

[B]

Gotta have a pontoon.

[C]

I got a little old fishing boat out there and a couple old jet skis, but that's. Oh, and

[B]

so a seaplane.

[C]

I wish. So there's this. So we did. I did this movie a couple years ago with JLo,

[B]

Shotgun Wedding.

[C]

And there was this movie or there's this not movie. There's this boat that was kind of in the beginning of the movie, and at the end, it was gonna throw a little picnic thing in the movie. And it was this old 54 Chris Craft. And I was like, what do you. What's up with that boat? And they said, we paid a lot of money for this thing. I said, well, I'll give you. I'll give you this for it. No, no, we. We paid. We paid this.

[A]

What are they gonna do?

[C]

Well, about six months later, they come back and they say, you still want the boat? And I said, well, I'll give you, like, half as much as I offered before.

[B]

And smart.

[C]

They said, fine. They took it. And then it was over in Puerto Rico or something. I had to get it all the way back to the States, and finally they. And they were having to do all that, and they said, you know what? It's yours. So they gave it to me.

[B]

They gave it to you? So you just.

[C]

They gave it to me, which. There's a little more to this story, but so I had. So I ended up getting it back to Florida, and we. And I had somebody pick it up in Florida and drive it to Fargo. And I have this old guy named David Selvig, and he's got two buddies who help him. He restores these old boats, and he. And it looks beautiful on the outside, but when they open it up, man, it was just.

[A]

It was a whole.

[C]

It was a. It was a huge money pit. So that free boat went to. You know, you pay, not free.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But it's all done now, and it's out in the water, and it's fun. It's a really cool ride.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

So, you know.

[A]

All right, Dan, we're gonna let Josh go, but I want to ask him about and Genie in a Bottle video. Did you ever think you'd have to worry about money again? And did you have to go in the bottle?

[B]

What was that?

[A]

You were the hot guy in the video.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

I love that song. I love that video. But I don't remember you. And so what is it? She's jumping around, and then you're a hot guy.

[C]

Well, you don't know. You don't. You don't remember me in it because I was in it, like, that long.

[A]

I like that. It's the number one thing on your resume. They're like, please mention this.

[C]

Literally, you can't. If you're not. If you're not watching super closely, you'll never see me in the video. I auditioned for the lead guy. It was a bit. The. The video's about these. This group of guys who crashes Christina's slumber party on the beach in Malibu.

[A]

And I like it.

[C]

I was one of the guys.

[B]

It's great.

[A]

You're not the hottest guy. This is insane. You could hot circles around that guy. I don't care. All right, well, Ransom Canyons.

[B]

Ransom Canyon.

[A]

You got 23rd.

[B]

Second season starts, and there's a season on right now. Yep. Ransom Canyon.

[A]

Nice chatting with you, buddy.

[C]

All right, guys.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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