Kyle Mooney

Summary

Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade: Featuring Kyle Mooney – Comprehensive Summary

Introduction

In the December 11, 2024 episode of "Fly on the Wall," longtime comedic duo Dana Carvey and David Spade host Kyle Mooney, a beloved former cast member of "Saturday Night Live" (SNL) and the writer/director of the upcoming horror-comedy film "Y2K." The episode offers an in-depth conversation about Kyle’s journey in the entertainment industry, his creative process, and his transition from SNL to filmmaking.

Kyle Mooney's SNL Journey

Kyle Mooney reflects on his nine-season tenure on SNL, discussing the unique challenges and rewards of working on a live sketch comedy show. He shares anecdotes about the intense creative environment and the camaraderie among cast members. Dana and David commend Kyle for his distinctive dry and quirky humor, which consistently brought fresh energy to the show.

Transition to Filmmaking – "Y2K"

The conversation shifts to Kyle's latest project, "Y2K," a horror-comedy film that pays homage to 90s nostalgia while injecting his unique comedic voice. Kyle explains that the idea originated on New Year's Day 2019, spurred by a hungover epiphany about the millennium bug fears. Within a week, he and his collaborator Evan had the foundational elements of the movie, highlighting the swift and collaborative nature of their creative process ([20:46]).

Writing and Creative Process

Dana dives into Kyle's writing methodology, curious about how he balances traditional teen comedy tropes with his signature offbeat humor. Kyle elaborates that collaborating with Evan was crucial, as Evan excels in structuring narratives and developing character arcs. This partnership allowed Kyle to focus on his strengths in character development and quirky humor, ensuring the film remained both funny and heartfelt ([26:58], [36:40]).

Balancing Comedy Styles

Kyle discusses the evolution of his comedic style while on SNL, noting that early sketches sometimes felt too experimental for the mainstream audience. Over time, he learned to adapt his alt-comedy roots to fit the more conventional format of the show, aiming to resonate with a wider audience without compromising his unique voice. Dana praises Kyle for maintaining authenticity without pandering, a balance that has become a hallmark of his work ([54:08], [55:07]).

Challenges and Experiences on SNL

The trio delves into the pressures of producing fresh content weekly on SNL. Kyle shares insights into the mental and emotional toll of the fast-paced environment, emphasizing the importance of camaraderie and support among cast members. Dana and David relate their own experiences, underscoring the show's demanding yet creatively fulfilling nature ([40:30], [43:16]).

Impressions and Comedy Style

Kyle touches on his venture into impressions, acknowledging that while it's not his primary strength, he occasionally incorporates them into his sketches. Dana highlights Kyle's ability to stay true to his comedic perspective, even when attempting impressions. Kyle appreciates the versatility but remains focused on his original character work, which defines his comedic identity ([56:00], [57:29]).

Collaborations and Involvement with A24

Kyle expresses gratitude towards A24 for supporting "Y2K." He praises the studio's effective branding and marketing strategies, which played a pivotal role in bringing his vision to the screen swiftly and efficiently. The partnership with A24 provided the necessary resources and creative freedom, allowing Kyle to fully realize his artistic ambitions ([29:00], [31:32]).

Personal Insights and Reflections

Towards the end of the episode, Kyle shares personal motivations for leaving SNL, including his recent marriage and desire to start a family. He reflects on how his experiences at SNL have shaped his approach to both comedy and filmmaking, fostering resilience and adaptability. Dana and David commend Kyle for his thoughtful decision-making and his commitment to personal growth alongside his professional endeavors ([40:52], [43:49]).

Conclusion

The episode concludes with heartfelt well-wishes for Kyle’s upcoming film and a mutual appreciation among the hosts and guest. Listeners are left with a comprehensive understanding of Kyle Mooney’s career trajectory, his creative processes, and his aspirations for the future.

Notable Quotes

• Kyle Mooney on the Origin of "Y2K":

  • “I woke up on New Year's Day 2019, hungover, and just that first, like, little concept of like, oh, there should be a movie about teens going to a party and like Y2K happens, machines come to get them.” ([20:46])

• Dana Carvey on Collaboration with A24:

  • “I just thought Kyle Mooney and A24 sounds like a good combo that you would, they would be smart about...” ([30:33])

• Kyle Mooney on Finding His Comedic Voice:

  • “What do you compare yourself in terms of what we've seen, you know what I mean? And, like, kind of figuring out my space.” ([54:08])

• Kyle Mooney on SNL's Influence:

  • “I found out that I could write something that I was okay with each week. Not that it necessarily ended up on the show or that it was brilliant, but at least something.” ([43:16])

• Kyle Mooney on "Y2K" Having Heart:

  • “There's heart to it. It's essentially really about two best friends and about their friendship and that person that means so much to you in high school...” ([26:58])

Closing Notes

Throughout the episode, Dana Carvey and David Spade create a welcoming and insightful atmosphere, allowing Kyle Mooney to share his experiences and aspirations candidly. The conversation not only highlights Kyle’s comedic brilliance but also his dedication to storytelling and personal authenticity, making the episode a must-listen for fans of comedy and filmmaking alike.

Transcript

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

Oh, David, socks. That's basically a cry for help wrapped in cheap cock. Partner, this year you're leveling it up with the no fail jaw dropping gift everyone will love. Wait for it. Fracture.

[David Spade]

Fracture. That sounds something like I did to my ego in the 90s with when I read reviews. What is it?

[Dana Carvey]

It's genius Fracture. Now listen, listen, listen. I'll.

[David Spade]

Kidding aside.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

So any photos of me with the mullet on that lives in glory, That's. That's like a hall of fame. I'll take that.

[Dana Carvey]

Exactly. You starting to get it? Single. Single prints, gallery walls, frame, frameless. They've got it all. I'm telling you. I'm here to tell you, David, just upload your photo and boom, you're gifting like a pro. There's no effort required. That's good for you. Which is perfect.

[David Spade]

So I don't need a toolbox because I have one screwdriver in the house.

[Dana Carvey]

And then you have one screwdriver right before dinner.

[David Spade]

It's a slippery snurple.

[Dana Carvey]

No, you don't have to lift a finger. They come ready to hang. No hammers, no extra holes in the wall. Just sleek, stunning glass prints that make people gasp. Even Aunt Barb. And she's a tough crowd.

[David Spade]

Barb. All right. I love it. So this year, no socks, no ovens, no candles. Just fracture.

[Dana Carvey]

Thoughtful, personable, unforgettable Fracture is. I. I'm going to just say this. Whatever. Whatever. People think it's the no fail that makes you. Makes you a holiday.

[David Spade]

We both said no fail.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, no fail. We're just going out on a no fail limb.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

Pick up Zycam in the cold and flu aisle. Visit Zycam.com to see where to buy online. David, this is kind of interesting because I was reading an article about nostalgia for the 90s, and in specific, Y2K, and it also referenced the movie of our guest. Kyle Mooney did a feature film called Y2K, where he kind of reenacts the styles, the telephones, the media. What was the web like then? Everything.

[David Spade]

So it plays on the fears we all had when it was turning from 1999 to 2000. And the word on the street was computers wouldn't understand that and they would all shut down at the same time. And.

[Dana Carvey]

Right.

[David Spade]

What would we do? I do know someone that went to Hawaii thinking that was like a deserted island and saying, I'm just going to go to Hawaii. Like, by the way, Hawaii is like going to, you know, Boston. It's the same big buildings, lots of electricity.

[Dana Carvey]

So it's got a Best Buy and a Rouse.

[David Spade]

So they weren't really escaping, you know, So I don't know what I'm saying. So, yeah, so he's an interesting guy. Was on SNL and for nine seasons. Yes, nine monster seasons. And he had a lot. We talked a lot about that. We talk about his movie and he also did sketches before that. He does a lot of improv. He's actually a very interesting character. He's not just sort of a run of the mill comic or improv. He's got a lot of smart guy.

[Dana Carvey]

Dry, quirky, good neighbor. Was the first time I saw him on YouTube. We talk all about that and how he sort of adapted his style of comedy to the rock and roll sporting type event that Saturday Night Live is. That was very interesting to me. And he wrote and directed this movie for a 24. So.

[David Spade]

Yeah, and it's, you know, SNL is a little more to the. To the world and not just specifically to like a sliver of an interesting, like, improv group. You know, you can get away with more just if you're like a hardcore comedy fan on some things. And then sometimes you go to SNL and you've got to broaden it just a little bit. Even though SNL does praise very weird bits. You know what I mean? Very different.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. With the, with the live show on the soundstage and stuff, sometimes some sketches are more performative. There's a word. And some are writer driven. They do more films now or videos and stuff. So you can be a little quirkier, drier and stuff like that. But he had a great run. He has a lot of fans. He has his own. His own lane of comedy, his own style. And this is a horror comedy. So I'm sure it's going to be horror. Horror, horror, horror.

[David Spade]

It's the hardest word.

[Dana Carvey]

Horror is the hardest word. And if you say it to a loved one and it comes out wrong, you're in the doghouse for a week. Honey, do you want to go see that horror film? And if she didn't get the her.

[David Spade]

Part, it's as bad as saying, does this place have any booths? Does your restaurant have booths?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, booths.

[David Spade]

What do you say, Dana? Booths or booths?

[Dana Carvey]

I went to a horror film, and before that we went to a restaurant and sat in the booths where it was February. February. And we went and we. We watched clips of the movie interstitially. Everybody, Everybody sounds drunk when they say these words. I went through a horror film. It has some booze. It's either Tom Brokaw or a very inebriated gentleman. Well, here he is.

[David Spade]

So you're going to like Kyle Mooney and Kyle Mooney.

[Dana Carvey]

Enjoy him. I made a mistake the last show, snl, Lawrence, during the meeting, he's on the stage, he goes, dana, you look like you're reading the cards.

[David Spade]

Did he really?

[Dana Carvey]

And I, and I said, the reason I look like I'm reading the cards is because I am reading the cards.

[David Spade]

Yeah. King Tutorial. Stay out of my business.

[Dana Carvey]

You know what?

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, I was there, Dan. I saw it. I saw it. I saw it in real life. And that was truly the exact interaction.

[Dana Carvey]

It was because the card Was moving to when they had a single on me and moving back to the double. So that was a little bit. I wasn't used to that.

[David Spade]

This is inside baseball. Kyle Moon.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm just saying we fuck up a lot. Don't know what we're doing. But you direct movies, you create art. I don't know. We're kind of. We're so excited to have you on here because I just love. I was trying to figure out your sense of humor. I'm like, what, What? Why is it so potent, you know?

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, yeah, I, I. You want me to try to answer that?

[David Spade]

No, Kyle, I was just saying.

[Dana Carvey]

I don't know. I don't know if you could have.

[David Spade]

Dana doesn't sound serious because he's eating chips or something. It doesn't sound like the most serious. He goes, you're one of the best.

[Dana Carvey]

It relaxes the guest.

[David Spade]

It says, we're all just hanging out, eating.

[Kyle Mooney]

The more exactly what I do with my pals. It's always somebody chewing something and then like asking a pretty sincere, vague question. I would say very.

[David Spade]

You're potent. Describe your potency.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, it's kind of a. Well, at least when I first got to know you is through. Through my kids. It was, it was good neighbor that was like, you gotta see this guy and. And your gang doing that stuff. And the man on the street and so playing it so flat real, you know, almost kind of Andy Kaufmanny, but not. I'm not sure it's your own lane. But it was very. It's. It's such a skill. I don't know.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's very sweet. I really appreciate it. And I do remember, I feel like at the 40th, maybe I met you.

[Dana Carvey]

And I said the same thing.

[Kyle Mooney]

You had very nice things to say and it was super meaningful. So I do appreciate it.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I mean, I'm kind of like a show butter out there. I'm like, I'm a needy little clown. I'm dancing for my donuts. Isn't that. By the way. So when I see other people going on like a rock and roll show like SNL and Cohen in their own frequency and Lane. It's just very interesting. And it. I just, I don't, you know, comedians like, like the person outside the boundaries, kind of like you're just sort of doing your own thing. But anyway, I'm sure everyone has said this to you and spoken to you.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I mean, again, it truly does. Any way you say that. It sounds very nice to me because you guys are heroes. So it's really awesome to hear that. I think, like, the challenge of course, is like, how do you fit whatever you want to call that, if you want to call it subversiveness or just. Or like you said, subtlety, like how do you package that in a way that works for the show, you know?

[Dana Carvey]

Right.

[David Spade]

Do you feel sometimes it's too far out of bound? That's a problem. You know, you want something that works, but you. And you want to be innovative.

[Kyle Mooney]

I do think that, like, early on I was probably trying to do too much of exactly what I was doing on. On YouTube and on our Internet videos. I think over time I was able to sort of like better manipulate it so that like, it was. It maybe fit more in sort of a consumable box, you know what I mean? And that was the fascinating thing, I think, for me, I think always was like, just. I'm sure this goes with everybody and so many people have said this, but just like, what hits and what doesn't? Because sometimes that stuff would play. And like we did a couple of those Internet interview videos and. And they did, they did work well, but some of the stuff is just. Is too non jokey and too dry or something for the audience and it just is. It gets nothing.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, that is the great thing about yeah, Good Neighbor is you guys were like pirates doing your own thing. Like, you just make your little pieces of work and you put them on YouTube. But yeah, to SNL, I think it happens to anybody, whatever their sensibility. But the audience discovering you on SNL happened over a period of time, so they knew your kind of vibe and they would start to just be happy when they'd see you. Right. At some point you got.

[Kyle Mooney]

I think so. And. Well, yeah, I mean, I feel like, yes, I did start to notice it and definitely I feel like it was in probably the latter half of my time there. I remember there was a monologue. I did a piece with Chance the rapper. He had a monologue. And like we both. It was a rap written by Dan Bola about.

[David Spade]

It's always Bola.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, exactly, it's always Bola. It was about like Chicago and the Second City. And it was, you know, Chance set, like ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Mooney or something like that. And there was like an applause and like a sense of recognition. Even though I'd already been on the show, but it still felt like, oh, okay, you do know me to some degree. And that was really special. And even when I was back a couple weeks ago and I saw you, Dana, like they Were. The audience was very sweet. And so at some point, it happens. I don't. It's sort of invisible. I don't know if you know when that moment is. Um, but it is absolutely comforting. For sure.

[Dana Carvey]

It's super nice. I mean, you came out on. On during the monologue, and then there's just this roar. You know, it's just like a. And I. You know, for me, people always say this thing. Are you a fan of this person or fan of that person? If I see someone on TV and they make me laugh really hard, only one time I would call myself a fan. Oh, yeah. So if you're doing it multiple times over nine years, most people never make you laugh.

[David Spade]

Yeah, for comedians.

[Kyle Mooney]

You know, I feel. I mean, like. And I'm not. This is not me trying to.

[David Spade]

Go ahead.

[Kyle Mooney]

Turn this conversation into promotion for the movie we're putting out.

[Dana Carvey]

No, we definitely want to talk about the movie.

[Kyle Mooney]

We don't have to. Okay.

[Dana Carvey]

We have. We have no outline and no, we.

[David Spade]

Don'T want to hear anything else other than the movie. Go ahead.

[Kyle Mooney]

But I will. I mean, I will say, okay, it's called Y2K. Friday, December 6th, is when it comes out. It's about two high schoolers going to a party in 99 and Y2K actually happening. But what I was going to say was that, like, I think there are laughs in it. And I've obviously been to screenings of it, and there are moments that get laughs. And to me, I feel the same way. I feel like if I go to a comedy movie and I laugh hard once, that is a win.

[David Spade]

It's such a fucking miracle. It's so funny. You say that because I can watch. You can watch things. And people nod and they go, that was pretty funny. And you go, you didn't even laugh. And you go, no. Or you pitch a joke at, like, read through or like, you know, rewrites. And they go, yeah, that'll work. And I go, wait a second. Nobody laughed.

[Kyle Mooney]

You didn't respond at all.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I just go, it'll work. For who? The others. That's true, though. One laugh. If you can get, like, a trailer with, like. I remember, this is an example of just Schneider doing Deuce Bigelow. He was upside down. You remember that? And he swings on, like, a upside down thing. The stretch. It's an aquarium. Hey, fucking put it in the trailer. I don't ruin the movie. Anyway, it gets a big laugh. That sold the whole movie. Because you go, oh, that made me laugh. That's the kind of movie. It is. It's goofy and off the wall, but it's hard to even get one laugh. So I get what you're saying. If someone makes you laugh now, you're in. They crack the code. Now you go, okay, I'll pay attention now.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes. And speaking to what you're talking about like that. Yeah. Pitching something and it's sort of being like, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think you nailed it. And I feel so many of us have probably experienced that in any sort of comedy writing room when, like, you're talking to somebody like, yeah, man, funny. It's funny. Just like saying the word funny, but like, yeah. Not eliciting any. Any response.

[David Spade]

It's. It's.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's very real and something that happens quite often.

[Dana Carvey]

Let me, let me ask you a question I like. So you wrote and directed.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, I co wrote it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My friend Evan, who I went to college with. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

The USC gang. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Beck does a voice in it. Yeah, yeah.

[David Spade]

What. What is it about? Because I know I. For those of the kids that don't know, Y2K was a big deal. It was a big scary deal.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Is it a scary movie or is it comedy scary or is it not like that?

[Kyle Mooney]

I think comedy scary is an apt descriptor, I would say. Yeah.

[David Spade]

It sounds so dumb, the way to say it.

[Kyle Mooney]

No, it is the first time I've heard anyone say that.

[Dana Carvey]

I think horror and comedy go together beautifully.

[David Spade]

They're hard to weave.

[Kyle Mooney]

But I mean, it starts out as, like, I would say, attempting to be a pretty classic, iconic teen movie, coming of age movie comedy in the realm of fun movie.

[David Spade]

We got a big party to go to.

[Kyle Mooney]

Super bad. Exactly. Yes. Yeah. I mean, like, we were really.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

There were so many movies in that era that came out that were sort of directed to teens a la Can't Hardly Wait and so. Or even the John Hughes movies or whatever.

[David Spade]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Kyle Mooney]

And then, yeah. At midnight, things, you know, again, Y2K actually happens. Machines come together and these robots start terrorizing these kids, essentially.

[David Spade]

It's what we all thought. There's a slim chance that could happen. Not a slim. People were saying it's for sure happening.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. No, my mom was scared for sure.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Someone I know went to an island. I'm like, what are you going to do there? Harvest coconuts? Do you really want to be alive when everything goes south? Like, why does everyone want to be alive?

[Dana Carvey]

And it was going to be supposed to be like chaos, right? Like a Purge or something.

[David Spade]

Because computers can't understand going to double zero or something.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. And it.

[David Spade]

And they will all crash.

[Kyle Mooney]

But it was fine. It was fully nothing.

[David Spade]

And it's unreal that it was nothing because I really. I remember thinking what was going to happen. They said computers don't understand. They don't understand we only made them to 99. They don't know what to do. They going to. I didn't know they were going to attack us like your movie, but they did say they might not work.

[Dana Carvey]

So the movie is. Is in theaters right now, by the way. Yeah, as we speak. As we speak.

[Kyle Mooney]

Maybe somebody. Maybe somebody's seen it that's listening. And I want to say thank you. If you made it out that really.

[David Spade]

Very cool of you. Thank you.

[Dana Carvey]

I think I was just curious about. In the writing of it, it sounds fun that you're starting out with a 90s comedy and just having all the kind of either tropes or cliches or just having fun with it. Right. Just like this big. So I just wonder how your mind thinks when you're writing, because I would think you're like, there's jokes that are like more hard, simple laughs if someone falls down, that kind of thing. Then there's dry, weird things that go places you don't expect. And then there's the ones that are so off kilter that people who get them bond over them that they don't necessarily kill, but friends will quote them to each other for long periods of time anyway. That seems to be. I mean, how. How much of the process of writing do you get a big bulletin board and you're starting to put up ideas for scenes kind of like SNL or. How did this one come about?

[Kyle Mooney]

I mean, yeah, initially it was just truly the seat of the idea. I woke up on New Year's Day 2019, hungover, and just that first, like, little concept of like, oh, there should be a movie about teens going to a party and like Y2K happens, machines come come to get them. I pitched it to my friend Evan, who's a very talented screenwriter and filmmaker. We started riffing on it and within a week we had essentially the building blocks for what the movie is and what it would be. And yeah, I think the process was super fun. I think for a variety of reasons. One, the movie follows essentially these teenagers and they all represent different cliques of the era. So there's like a rap rocker, there's like the popular girl, there's the sort of our lead who doesn't really Fit in anywhere. There's, like, a kid who's really obsessed with underground hip hop. And one. It was, like, fun. I mean, because I am. Because I perform as well. Like, I get to sort of inhabit these characters in the writing process and. And sort of riff in their voice.

[David Spade]

What are you.

[Kyle Mooney]

What am I in real life?

[David Spade]

Who am I in the movie?

[Kyle Mooney]

In the. In the movie, I play a. I play a video store clerk. I wanted to be in it, but I knew I couldn't be, like, a proper teenager. But in the writing process, I feel like I'm taking over these characters to some degree.

[Dana Carvey]

That's interesting because I would do it the exact same way. I wrote a script with a friend called Idiots and Monsters, and it's, you know, that combination. And I would just get into the characters and just riff. And he was really fast with typing and stuff. Yeah, it's a. It's a good way to do it.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's great. And then the other component is, like, I was 15 in 99. Evan was 14. And, like, like you were saying, in terms of the gags and the jokes, there are some, like, pretty. Yeah. Classic standard visual gags. But then there are, like, also very specific references to the era that I think, like, it. You won't understand, really, if you were alive. And then there's. I hate to say it, I actually don't even want to say it, but awkward humor, which I get.

[David Spade]

Boner jokes.

[Kyle Mooney]

There is definitely a boner joke.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, now you got one ticket right over there. David Phineas Spade.

[David Spade]

Did you say there's a babe that everyone loves? Is that. Isn't that usually in these movies that the girl everyone's pining over and she doesn't talk to you until this party?

[Kyle Mooney]

That is. That. That is Rachel Zegler as Laura in our film. Yeah.

[David Spade]

Oh, that's. That's great. That's a big star.

[Dana Carvey]

So, you know, David, just news flash, in my earlier days, I did do a stationary rower, and I thought it was one of the best workouts you can possibly get.

[David Spade]

Oh, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And the current greatest thing to get right now is hydro rower.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And I would really recommend it. I. It doesn't. There's no real pounding like you can get with running and stuff. And it's one movement and you're getting your whole body really burn calories and break a sweat.

[David Spade]

Yeah. You know, a lot of people talk about, oh, I should get somebody a treadmill or elliptical or a bike. It's just a lot of yapping. You know, they don't really work out your upper body or core.

[Dana Carvey]

No, you. Would you do this properly with hydro. You are just like your entire movement is your core, then it goes to your back, your arms, you push off with your legs. It's literally everything, including your pinky gets a workout.

[David Spade]

It's not super easy, but it's a workout and that's what it's. That's what you need. You know, you need a workout, get sweaty and feel good. It just hits a lot, a lot of muscles, arms, legs, core. It works 86% of your muscles.

[Dana Carvey]

Yes. And by the way, there's a way, usually it's called a damper to adjust the tension when you pull back on the row, quote unquote. And so you can make it easy. You can start out on the hydro, just get acclimated to the movement. You don't have to go all out. And then eventually you can just as you get more fit, you can up the tension on the.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

You know, when you did Bridge Beast Bear, there was a. It became a little sentimental. I mean, there was that other lane underneath the laughs, you know, do you kind of have that sort of story element in this one too? Or is it more just a balls out comedy? Or is there sort of a sweetness or something to the. How it ties up or give away the movie before people see it?

[David Spade]

Just tell the ending.

[Kyle Mooney]

I mean, yeah, there's definitely. Yeah, it's weird that I don't want to be the person saying this, but yes, I think that there is heart to it. And like, it's essentially really about two best friends and about their friendship and that person that, like, means so much to you in high school and, and that sort of carries through the entire movie and there's some sort of intense drama associated with it within the movie. But yeah, I mean, like, I, I love making Briggs Bear and it definitely, like, maybe leans into quote, unquote, dramedy territory or something like that, but that is something that is exciting to me. And with this movie, like, we're certainly going for laughs. We're also going for like, you know, scares. But there are like, moments of attempting to like, tug at your heartstrings. Whether we're successful about it, I don't know. But absolutely, that, that. There is a layer of that.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, it is, it is interesting. The. You can go on YouTube and stuff and look at like, how do you. How do you. Someone's in a shower and they open the curtain and what's the exact cutting and angle to scare. To scare you. But I assume you had a director of photography that would sort of say, okay, here, this guy should pop out here, we don't see it. We cut there. I mean, it's, it seems fun. I mean, I think those kinds of things are just, just exciting to land through.

[Kyle Mooney]

Absolutely. Well, yeah, our DP was a guy by the name of Bill Pope who is sort of a legend in his field. He shot the Matrix, he shot Clueless, he shot all the Edgar Wright movies. So, like, yeah, he's. But he did not shoot the Deputy.

[David Spade]

That was a big misunderstanding.

[Dana Carvey]

So you.

[David Spade]

What about a 24? You're putting it out with. That's a big company that's just.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, they've been.

[David Spade]

You're dialed in.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh well, I really appreciate that, David.

[David Spade]

Listen, that's a big deal.

[Dana Carvey]

No, you're doing what everybody I talk to and I always do my. If you had 300 million net, what would you do? Writers who write movies for studios and stuff. Every single one says, oh, low budget indies, you know, it's lower budgeted indies with total control.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. Yeah. A24 has been truly awesome and kind of unlike any studio or company I've ever worked with in the sense that they just are very good at branding and marketing and putting it out there. It's been, it's been, it's been pretty impressive to see how they've sort of attached themselves to it and I think got taken out the things that potentially could pull people to the theaters. It's been, it's been a cool, it's been a cool thing to observe.

[David Spade]

You know what attach themselves is better than saying they're running from it.

[Dana Carvey]

They.

[Kyle Mooney]

Absolutely. And they have. There were moments where it felt like maybe they would or could.

[David Spade]

No, they're sort of. They seem to the average guy like me that's in the biz barely that. They are very pretty selective and they don't do that much.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah they do.

[David Spade]

They do good. Quirky, quirky, cool. That's good.

[Dana Carvey]

Thomas Anderson does a lot of stuff with them. So when I saw this even before I knew you were going to come on our show, I thought oh, that's cool. Kyle Mooney and a 24. I just thought it sounded like a good combo that you would, they would be smart about.

[David Spade]

There's a trust letting it be.

[Dana Carvey]

You do your thing hopefully and it would be good.

[David Spade]

It's not. They don't.

[Dana Carvey]

Did you finance it independently and then get with a 24? You would got with them and they, they were part of the financing and that's how you made it or was it a two step process?

[Kyle Mooney]

No, they. Yeah, they were there from the top initially when we had the, you know, early iterations of the script. Chris Storer, who created the Bear and is a director and producer came on to produce and then later on Jonah Hill's company Strong Baby came on and about that same time 824 came into the fold and. And then like once we did like a couple passes but truly it was, it was one of those situations where once they were involved things moved fast in a way that feels like very unique. Like I didn't, I didn't think that it was going to happen as quickly as it did. And it did. And I truly feel blessed. Yeah, they.

[David Spade]

Do you know why it's called a 24? I do.

[Kyle Mooney]

I feel like I read once. But I'm curious. What?

[David Spade]

Because when you look up a production company in the phone book, they put an A in front of it. So then you'll call them first. You know what I mean, Dana? Like in the old days in the Yellow Pages, they put AAA electrician. And then that's why you call them first, because it's the first one you see alphabetically. It might be now.

[Kyle Mooney]

Do you. Do you think that. Do you really think they're angling for the phone company?

[Dana Carvey]

Would that translate to Lane?

[David Spade]

Am I trying to hack out of this joke?

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes. This is what they did. I'm not saying it was.

[David Spade]

No, I'm saying this is 100% fact that they were in the White Pages. They want to be.

[Dana Carvey]

I know we're doing a fun podcast and everything, but I'm not following you, David.

[David Spade]

That's such a good one. And it just.

[Dana Carvey]

No, it's not that.

[David Spade]

No, I, like, take it to the rewrite table.

[Dana Carvey]

It's called an urban myth. But anyway, we'll get through the inside baseball. But how many days? Shoot. Did you get?

[David Spade]

Yeah. 23.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm gonna guess 20. Okay.

[David Spade]

Why 23?

[Dana Carvey]

No.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, Dana, do you want to guess or no?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I'm going to guess. I'm going to guess because a 24 is a pretty big outfit. And Kyle likes to spend money.

[David Spade]

Yeah, he likes.

[Dana Carvey]

Beck told me. I'm going to. For. For fun. I'll say 32.

[David Spade]

Jesus.

[Kyle Mooney]

And now I feel like I need.

[Dana Carvey]

It was 16.

[Kyle Mooney]

It was. I think it was about 30 days. It was. Yeah.

[David Spade]

I was going to switch mine at 29. I swear to God, it's going to switch.

[Kyle Mooney]

It was like David.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Oh, no. Because I think busboys is 24.

[Dana Carvey]

David's doing an indie film.

[David Spade]

Doing indie right now.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Pizza Pizza Hut is producing.

[David Spade]

I know. All the Lego Pizza Hut is in a collab.

[Kyle Mooney]

I feel like they did some early Ninja turtles stuff.

[Dana Carvey]

God, a28.24 didn't like his pitch.

[David Spade]

I should have pitched it to them. We didn't want to pitch to anyone.

[Kyle Mooney]

We're worse. I could definitely intro you to some folks, man.

[Dana Carvey]

But he's going right into what you just did.

[David Spade]

Yeah, we're doing it. We're doing January.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's great.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Well, ours is called Y2J.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's good. That works for the phone book thing.

[David Spade]

So, yeah, ours is called a Y2.

[Dana Carvey]

What is that? Lubricant. Y2.

[Kyle Mooney]

KY Jelly.

[David Spade]

KY2K.

[Dana Carvey]

If I do a production company, it's going to be called KY Jelly.

[David Spade]

Okay.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay Dot com.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay. So in the fantasy world, because this, this is. I'm assuming you basically love. You love the experience. Usually movies suck and there's too many chefs or they're long hard shoots or someone drops out. I mean, so this sounds like just a pretty good experience in making this film, I would say.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, I would say so. I mean, again, I had my friend Evan with me throughout the process. And so, like, I don't feel. It felt more like a collaboration than just me. I didn't feel like the pressure was all on me. Again, we had Bill Pope. We had these incredible artisans.

[Dana Carvey]

Did Evan do Brigsby Bear who directed that?

[Kyle Mooney]

That was directed by my friend Dave McCary, who I actually have known since I was in fifth grade. And he directed videos at the show for about five seasons, I want to say. But yeah, I mean, like, with anything. I think we started writing. Yeah. In 2019. We shot the movie in the spring of summer of 2023, and now it's out. You know, there's always, like going to be. There were moments of doubts and frustration for sure. But overall, it's been an incredible experience and I like it. And like, that's. I feel like a pretty important component is that I do feel like it's pretty good.

[David Spade]

People don't get how to go from writing to pitching to writing. It can. It's just like a sketch. It can all be good. And then suddenly the edit looks wrong and you're like, what fucking happened?

[Kyle Mooney]

It's absolutely.

[David Spade]

You're doing that best you can. And it just somehow does not cut together.

[Dana Carvey]

Every script at some point, I don't know what page number. Say you're trying to get to 90 pages for a low budget comedy and you get to 40 or 45, and then there's just all this. There's a part where it gets really hard. At least my experience.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, that's why I always link with somebody who I know is going to be better at that than me. You know what I mean? And Evan is really great at that. And Briggs. I wrote it with my friend Kevin, and I've written with Evan and Kevin, and I feel like they're just very good at structure and, like, kind of leaning into, like, what, the character payoffs and the arc and all of that in a way that, like, I wouldn't say it's my Forte, per se. So, like, it's good to have somebody like that to lean on.

[David Spade]

When I do it, I just bark out funny ideas and I go, somebody write it down.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, well, I think. And so many people do that at snl, too. I think. You know what I mean?

[David Spade]

Don't they take notes of just the rewrite table of just people talking in case they come up with something funny? I've heard they transcribe. Is that crazy?

[Kyle Mooney]

I'm sure. I'm sure they do.

[David Spade]

I mean, like, someone's just taking down while you're talking in case you run into something and they read it back and go, that was funny.

[Kyle Mooney]

You. You're talking about at snl.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

You didn't experience this, though. You think this is happening now?

[David Spade]

No, we had no court reporters. We had a low budget. But I feel like I've heard that about something. And they go, oh, read it back. And I'm like, oh, someone reads it back. Maybe it's during pitches or something. I don't know.

[Kyle Mooney]

When I was there, we. There were definitely. There are definitely people that are taking notes during the pitches. For sure. At, like, at rewrites. I don't remember anybody, like, writing what was being said, but I was personally writing it down. I feel like you're hearing pitches from everybody else and I'm like, making notes on my script of like, okay, that's.

[David Spade]

A good rewrite table still on where the old read through was.

[Dana Carvey]

It's an 8H rewrite table is. Oh, not rewrite. Rewrites of. Yeah, but the actual read through.

[David Spade]

Read through is moved. But rewrites is still up on 17.

[Kyle Mooney]

No, no. Well, it's on both. There's. They actually do. When I was there, at least it was on 17 and 9. So there was the office on 9. That sort of, sort of overlooks the stage. I don't know if you know the one I'm referring to currently. Like, it's, It's. It's by Lauren's office on, on nine. And then they also have a rewrite table on 17.

[David Spade]

They got two going.

[Kyle Mooney]

Are you mad?

[David Spade]

No, I'm, Yeah, it's.

[Dana Carvey]

It's a model.

[David Spade]

It's as mad as I get. I'm like, it doesn't affect me at all. I should probably get mad about this.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, I got, I got tweaked. I got tweaked because I saw some of the dressing rooms, you know, and I just had a couch and a sink. But the dressing rooms on 8H and up on 9, they're like, there's Christmas lights, there's jukeboxes, there's refrigerators. Yeah. So when you. You left who you 80? Kate and Pete left when you left.

[David Spade]

Oh, you guys did together.

[Dana Carvey]

Did you convince them all to leave with you or did you blood pack?

[Kyle Mooney]

I feel like. I. I mean, I. Yeah. I don't know how it felt for you guys. Beck left the season prior. My eighth season. His eighth season.

[Dana Carvey]

Your buddy from usc.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

So you feel weird hang dangling out there without him.

[Kyle Mooney]

I. Well, that. That season that he left was like the quote unquote. I guess you. You could call it the COVID year. It was like. Yeah, we had done the. The year prior ended with COVID so we did those at home shows. But that season, which I guess was maybe 2020, going into 2021, was the first year where, like, yeah, Table read was moved to 8H. It was super spread out. We were testing every day, and each person was. You didn't share an office with anybody. Everybody had their own individual space and every. Their own individual dressing room. And, like, initially, the audience audiences were really sparse. It was like, only, like, you know, first responders, and there would be like, whatever, 30 people max or something like that in studio. Um, so that didn't. I feel like Beck left that season. I think some of us. And I feel like 80 for sure, said this. Like, I was like, you know, I would like to experience one more year that's closer to the traditional version of it. So. So, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what our conversation was at the top of that season, but I do think that I had a sense that most of those folks are probably gonna go.

[David Spade]

So you didn't say you're gonna go or would anyone make you stay? Would anything change your mind or were you just, like, you talked about it with the family? Like, I think I'm done after this.

[Kyle Mooney]

What was my, like, my personal, like, reasonings?

[David Spade]

I mean, just had a good run and you had nine years. Yeah, it's too much.

[Dana Carvey]

Nine is a good run.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's. I mean, it pretty much came down to yes. I feel like at that point my close friends had left. I had pretty much done what I was capable of doing. You know what I mean? I don't know that I had a ton of new moves left. I feel like if the moment to, like, break out further was going to come, I don't know how that would have transpired. So, like, there was that component and then, yeah, there was obviously just that amount of time that's a long period to be in that environment. And then I just got married and we wanted to start a family.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

So the family took.

[David Spade]

Oh, family.

[Kyle Mooney]

That was definitely the. That's definitely what I told Lauren. Like, I want to have a family man. And he's like, oh. And I understand. I understand.

[David Spade]

Where are your family?

[Dana Carvey]

Well, is there. You know, because I'm. I'm around there now and young cast members and stuff. And so even during the summer, you're thinking about what's going to happen when you go in there. And maybe there's new cast members coming and going. And then. So there's this. This emotional weight, even. I think Kate McGinnon said it was just. She got kind of just exhausted to a point. Oh. Just needed to get away from.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, it's. It's unhealthy. I feel like you guys talk about this. We must all agree that it's not.

[David Spade]

We all agree there's no air hair in there. It's like.

[Dana Carvey]

I think aside from everything else, I was. I was going for that, but you beat me to it. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

I want to say that a producer over there I'm pretty sure is Eric Kenward, who said this, at some point, he's like, in whatever, 20, 30, 40 years, there might be some sort of study about, like, PTSD associated with people who worked at that show because it is such an intense onslaught. And like, yeah, there, it's. It's definitely not good for you. There's no way it is. I mean, it is in terms of, like, what it teaches you and the fact that you have this massive platform. But you get what I'm saying.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, being unprepared and going on live and it'll be in the cards and seeing the writers trying to fit the puzzle, and you go and your friends see it, or family members and critique it. Yeah, it is. It's just different than anything else, I think. What didn't Chris Rock say to you or somebody, like, if you can do snl, if you can produce your own sketch and land it and go through that, then you can direct films. You have some sort of armor emotionally on you. Nothing frazzles you because everything is last second on snl and, well, you definitely.

[Kyle Mooney]

Become way less precious about your work all of a sudden. Or one. You have to turn around something every week. Right. I think that was like the.

[David Spade]

That's the hardest part.

[Kyle Mooney]

One of the most. And for me, that was one of the most profound things that I took from. It was like, prior to working there, I Would, like, make stuff or write stuff when I was inspired. And that could take, you know, a couple months. Like, okay, now I got an idea. I want to pursue this thing. Now you're in a situation where you, like, you have to come up with something every week to have a chance to be on tv, essentially. And for me, it was, like, surprising that I found out that I could write something that I was okay with each week. Not that it necessarily ended up on the show or that it was brilliant, but at least something. I was like, this is decent enough.

[David Spade]

You have to run with a wispy idea. You're like, okay, I just finished the show. I wake up from the party.

[Dana Carvey]

Just got back from the party Monday morning, you're sobered up.

[David Spade]

What are you doing? What do you got? What is your long thought out sketch with all the beats? And you're like, it's nothing. I have nothing. I don't even know.

[Kyle Mooney]

Right.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

Well, let me ask you a question, like, because I don't know if it was old fashioned, but I was worshiping the first cast, and they would. The coneds would come on more than once, and so you'd have a character with a catchphrase, and then it gave you a baseline. So what were your. You had some reoccurring ones that would come back on Update or in Sketches, or did you land many of those that you could then go, oh, I'll do this character this week, you know.

[Kyle Mooney]

Once in a while. Certainly never anything, like iconic that people are like, oh, Kyle's bringing Dr. Ding Dong back.

[Dana Carvey]

So great. I'm going to pitch that fucking. Please, Dr. Ding Dong. And I'm just gonna see if that can land. That's comedy writing.

[Kyle Mooney]

Because Kyle, we're gonna do a Ding dong with Fallon this week, and then.

[Dana Carvey]

Eventually we'll get a dong from Kyle.

[David Spade]

Maybe hold it for Margot Robbie. That'd be a fun week.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, I had a few, like, probably. But towards the end on Update, I did like, I was doing Baby Yoda, and I got to do that a few times, and that was fun. And there were a couple of video pieces that we sort of would return to. I don't think. I don't know if I can really remember a time where, like, the show was asking for me to, like, you got to do. Maybe. Maybe there are a couple instances where, like, you should write, like, one of these sitcom parodies, please.

[David Spade]

This week.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Baby Yoda, former child star.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[Dana Carvey]

Yep.

[David Spade]

It's been a while since I've seen Baby Yoga hit the headlines, baby.

[Kyle Mooney]

They're probably deep on whatever Mandalorian season, something. I think they're making a movie.

[David Spade]

Baby Yoga would have had a good run.

[Dana Carvey]

Did that happen during the. I don't know what, 2010-20. But, Tina, what they're called, they're not the knots. The secondary knots. I don't know. But being fanciful, I know Tina Fey early on in this mentioned Bowen Yang's iceberg character. And then I see people like Sarah doing very fanciful costumes and headgear. Like, I'm Manhattan and there's a city on your head, which. I love it. It's just. I think that was a stylistic thing that wasn't as big when I was there initially, but I saw that come up and it really makes me laugh. It's funny.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. I mean, yes. I love what all those people. I mean, like, Sarah is such a good example of someone who I knew prior to her. I knew her work prior to her being on the show.

[David Spade]

And like.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. And she's the same person doing essentially a version of what she was doing then. And I think exaggerated and, like, perfectly for the show.

[David Spade]

And it's good for the show. I think that fits right in. I mean, if she gets it. Sometimes it may be too far out for the show, but when I saw that Squirrel one and it was funny because they were me, she's going after every. After every punchline, and I think someone in the band is trying to match it with noise from sticks.

[Dana Carvey]

It's right. And then every time it's slightly off, it's funny. Much funnier. But, yeah, I don't know what, you know, there are. For me and others like me, I would get people saying, well, you know, you're silly, you know, and it's sort of like, you know, you just get up there and you start doing your thing and acting silly, you know. So what do they say to you? Yeah, that's so easy. You're so funny. Naturally you come up with a make it up. They push you out on the sound stage.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, they let me improvise a lot on the show.

[David Spade]

Everyone's always improving.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. I think, like, for me, sort of, I guess the struggle was a little bit of, like, I do have a peculiar voice and, like, you know, how much of it is, like, leaning too much towards, like, alt comedy versus, like, something that a mainstream audience can appreciate and be into? So sometimes there would be questions of, like, you know, what do you want to be? What is. What do you compare yourself in terms of what we've seen, you know what I mean? And, like, kind of figuring out my space. And I think, like, ultimately, I mostly, I'd like to think ended up pretty much doing what I would have done if I wasn't on the show to some degree. You know what I mean? I'd like to think I stayed pretty true to my, I guess, perspective, if that makes sense.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I would see that. I don't see you pandering or anything out there.

[David Spade]

Wait, Dana. I just saw. This is a newsflash.

[Dana Carvey]

This is a newsflash.

[David Spade]

I'm looking at his impressions and no.

[Kyle Mooney]

Great.

[David Spade]

It's so funny because I guarantee you half these, you don't remember a sign.

[Dana Carvey]

Or they're just a look. I mean, right?

[David Spade]

They just got John Kennedy. Is it the John Kennedy that does the hearings that we always talk about him?

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, I have no fucking idea. I don't.

[Dana Carvey]

This is just your Wikipedia.

[Kyle Mooney]

I was on, like, I did. I was on, like, I think. I think wgn, like, a couple weeks ago, promoting the movie and, like, the. The anchor was, like, just listing off all these impressions.

[David Spade]

These, like, kind of Bradley Cooper.

[Kyle Mooney]

Exactly.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Like, I'm like. I don't know.

[David Spade]

I'm sure that, like, Michael Jackson. You do Michael.

[Kyle Mooney]

That I do remember. I actually think Michael was pretty good.

[David Spade]

Okay, good.

[Dana Carvey]

Can we get a little bit of Michael Jackson? Hey, I want a donut.

[David Spade]

Hey, man, give me a donut.

[Kyle Mooney]

Why should I do it after you guys have already done it?

[David Spade]

Well, I just did. Donut. Always wants a donut. That.

[Kyle Mooney]

Come on.

[Dana Carvey]

See it. That's funny.

[David Spade]

That was better than the donut one.

[Dana Carvey]

That's so funny. You should do him. He's. He's about to go in. Michael Jackson about. Get a root. About to get a root canal. Michael Jackson. Right after a root canal.

[David Spade]

Michael Jackson.

[Dana Carvey]

I love that because it's. Get it.

[David Spade]

Put some gem on it.

[Dana Carvey]

I see. I like. I like abstraction. I don't. Accurate impressions can be breathtaking, you guys.

[Kyle Mooney]

You. You know, Dana, for instance, that, like, you excel at that. And then there are those of us who don't. Like, that's never been something that's been like a part of my toolbox or whatever. You know what I mean? I would get thrown in every once in a while. I would surprise myself and do an impression on the show where I was like, okay, I hit that pretty well. But, like, I never was like, the dude in middle school or whatever, like, doing the perfect Mr. Frank impression or something like that. Our history teachers.

[David Spade]

Yeah, exactly. What About a read through. When you get one year sign and you get it right, everyone erupts because they love it because you. And then when you miss it, everyone goes, oh, they kind of.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's also, I mean. Yeah, I mean the journey from read through to like the, the state. Like actually Saturday, when it's like my, my Johnny Depp is feeling really good right now. And then it's like the live show and all of a sudden I don't know how to do this.

[David Spade]

Have you ever had it stolen from. You have to read through. The sketch gets on and they replace you.

[Kyle Mooney]

I'm sure I. Yes, absolutely. I'm sure I have. I mean, like I've, you know, once, once all the celebs started coming through.

[David Spade]

Like fucking Dana, stealing jobs.

[Dana Carvey]

I know I said to Lord, you'll come back and you'll do all these. I just do Biden and I, I have five catchphrases. I've done them seven times. I'm running on fumes. I mean, so it's funny.

[David Spade]

They go, who looks like Matt Damon? We go, let's get Matt Damon. Right?

[Dana Carvey]

But I'm, I'm not like, you know, Daryl Hammond or Kevin Pollock. There are people that are truly brilliant. I mean, I can. Sometimes they come to me, but sometimes I've been out there when I was doing. They'd assign me someone. I don't really have a hook.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, and that's what I think that. I don't know that this was happening a ton when you guys were there. But we were getting a lot of. I mean, I was there during a pretty intense, like long strung out news cycle. Like it, you know what I mean? I was there. Obama Trump Covid, Biden. And like we would get the cold. We wouldn't often get the cold. Opens until like maybe Friday at 5pm but sometimes we wouldn't get them till like Saturday at noon. And then you'd be thrown into like you're gonna play this. Like, yeah, whatever. Louisiana senator.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. You know, when they have women. You're starting to plane, you know, like, it makes me smile when I think about Kate McGinnon doing Giuliani. Because like I'm just going to do kind of a penguin y villain with the. And just out of bat. It's like Sarah coming out as Matt Gates. Just the look itself.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes, was so funny.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, was so funny that Louis put together and he's a Star Trek nerd. So it was completely.

[David Spade]

Do you think there's a male cast member that says I want to play Matt Gaetz. Or does Sarah just say, I want to paint Matt Gaetz?

[Kyle Mooney]

I bet that producers are choosing Sarah.

[David Spade]

That's my Sarah. Just. This will be funnier.

[Kyle Mooney]

I think so. And David, I do want to say, I want to give you your impression. I'm a big fan of your Tom Petty.

[David Spade]

Oh, yeah? Yes, Tom Petty. Let's go back and explain, you know.

[Dana Carvey]

That he had a whole thing because he used to open for me. What did you have in your trunk? You had a hat. You wore the Petty hat.

[David Spade]

Petty hat that I stole off a valet in New Orleans. It was like a gray hat that he used to kind of wear. And then I had the skinny glasses that were like kind of colored. And I used to first say I'd put those on and do an impression of a girl on Adam 12, an old cop show. So I'd put like these hippie glass and go, what are you gonna do, bust us, Pig? That was the intro. Okay. Then I'd put the carpet sideburns on little pieces.

[Dana Carvey]

That's right. You had the sideburns with the double sided tape.

[David Spade]

Yep. Needed double sided tape at every gig. In my rider, I was an opener. No one had a rider, but I would bring it or the bit would fall apart. Couldn't do the bit. And then the hat and then try to sing like him. And it was like a clo. It got up to be a closer. And then snl, we did it. Me and Dana did him and Bob Dylan. I did it alone, but I didn't have that many.

[Kyle Mooney]

But he was in, I feel like one of those. Yeah, we didn't realize that it predated the show I did.

[David Spade]

Oh, yeah, I brought that one in.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah. He's my opener, that guy I'm watching to see when I go on, I see the Simon Burns come out of the little suitcase, see the hat, and I go, I gotta get on deck. Get ready now. I gotta follow this guy. And a lot of times I'm having. Cut the mic right before that.

[David Spade]

And then you go, there's a sound problem. I didn't hear the ending. And I go, I know what happened.

[Dana Carvey]

But Spade was always like, never, like kind of trying to get the audience to love him. So he had a lo fi kind of attitude. And it was really funny because toward the end of our little tour in the Northeast, he come out and shorts like cutoffs and kind of drape himself over the. Over the little stool mic stand with a Coke and go, hey, what's up, everybody? I'm Coming out in that special.

[David Spade]

Everyone's leaning in to hear me. Is this guy talking?

[Dana Carvey]

Isn't that special? Hit the reverb. It was August in the Northeast outdoor sheds, and I would sweat one night. I sweat all the way through my 90.

[Kyle Mooney]

Gotta do that.

[Dana Carvey]

Gotta do. David's in the back. He's got a straw in the can.

[David Spade]

I'm asleep in the back of the rental car. Are we done? Let's go. Head off. Blue Nile. Dana, I don't have to tell you about Blue Nile. I do not. There's the one guy I don't have to tell about Blue Nile. But I will. Yeah, Blue Nile, you will. This is the time of year Blue Nile blows up the hardest. Because if you're looking back at your amazing memories from 2024, maybe you're in love, maybe you're looking at 2025. What are your plans? Maybe they involve getting engaged. Right. You're making a big step. You can source your engagement ring from blue nile.com.

[Dana Carvey]

Blue Nile. Why do all the work when Blue Nile will do it for you? Do you know, David, Blue Nile is the original online jeweler since 1999? Did you know that?

[David Spade]

I actually recall that. But do you know, Dana, the only time we say each other's names is during these.

[Dana Carvey]

Right. That's what's funny.

[David Spade]

They offer a diamond price guarantee, which means that in most cases they can meet or beat a competitor's price on a comparable diamond. And you can feel great about the purchase because you got a great one and you got it for less.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. The thing about Blue Nile, David, they're committed to ensuring that the highest ethical standards are observed when sourcing diamonds and jewelry. So you can feel great about that, too.

[David Spade]

Yeah, there's. Jewelry is a tough word. I don't know. It is.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Blue Nile orders are insured and they arrive incognito, you know, so you don't have to worry about that. They got guaranteed service and repairs for life, guaranteed free shipping and return. I mean, there's so much going on there.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. And you know, you're going to want to hear things. There's things you want to hear in life after your other significant other opens up their incredible Blue Nile gift. Oh, honey, you shouldn't have. Oh, I love you, honey. This is beautiful, honey. Where did you get it? Bob's Jewelry Store? No, Blue Nile.

[David Spade]

Blue Nile. Oh, honey, it's so bright and blinding.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. This is. Come on.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

That's $50 off with code [e-mail] bluenile.com David for lunch today.

[David Spade]

It's almost lunchtime. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Do you have any.

[David Spade]

What are you going to do?

[Dana Carvey]

What do you do? You know, sometimes I really just want to have fun. I would get like a really good turkey sandwich with avocado or if I.

[David Spade]

Really want to say the same thing, really, Turkey? I just had it yesterday.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. And maybe a few baked chips. And then you'd want an ice cold Pepsi, which I don't. What I like to do with Pepsi is I fill the whole glass to the brim with ice and then I slowly pour the Pepsi in and I make what I call a super Pepsi.

[David Spade]

You know, because the cold, it's not that super. But.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, well, I think if I say it's super, then it's kind of, it's close. Closer to super.

[David Spade]

Well, in your head super, because it's.

[Dana Carvey]

It'S a super Pepsi. Yeah, yeah. I mean it's not a regular situation.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah. You know, I was flying this week and Pepsi on the plane, all Pepsi products, a casino. I just played every restaurant thing. You, you throw one in with lunch, dinner and get your, get a little caffeine going. You get the fizzy bubbles and it's fun.

[Dana Carvey]

And you know, you share it with people. An Austrian friend of mine wants them to be quote. And you know what enhances those flavors and really makes them pop? It's an ice cold Pepsi. I said, thank you.

[David Spade]

I'll give it a pop.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, it gives you a pop with a Pepsi pop. It's better than a regular pop.

[David Spade]

Get a fizzy Pepsi in you and a pepperoni piece of pizza. You know, I've done that so many times.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, yeah, I would say pizza and a Pepsi, they sound alike. They, they, they go together. You will lose your mind with pizza and Pepsi every time. Grab a Pepsi. Zero sugar for your next meal as food deserves Pepsi. Did you ever do stand up, Kyle, or want to do stand up or.

[Kyle Mooney]

I did, I would do it. I did it a few times. I got really, I think prior to getting on the show I would do character bits. I would do standup shows and I did this character, Bruce Chandling, which I did at the show, which was like a shitty stand up comedian. And that's something.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh yeah, I remember that I would.

[Kyle Mooney]

Do in clubs and stuff.

[Dana Carvey]

Can I hear a little bit of what a shitty stand up comedian talks like?

[Kyle Mooney]

Hey, good to Be here.

[Dana Carvey]

Right.

[Kyle Mooney]

You know, going to be in la. You know, Los Angeles, city of dreams. I like, everybody's got a dream here, right? Yeah, yeah. Dreaming to get. Dreaming of getting across town in less than an hour.

[David Spade]

That is a good dream.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. I remember this character. I love that I say, but then he was.

[Kyle Mooney]

But then he would say something. Very depressed. But then he would be like, but I do really need some help out here.

[Dana Carvey]

And I think, yeah, I still do stuff like that to make myself laugh. If I go out there, to me, the funniest thing a comedian can say, say they're in Cleveland and just say, what's up, Cleveland? That's their first line. It's so funny to me.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, yeah.

[David Spade]

I don't say that. I just go, I love doing Cleveland.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. There was a lot of. Whenever I do it now, there's. Which I've not done in a while, but a lot of like, you know, like, have you seen this? Right? You know, it'll be like, of course, it's Christmas time. You heard about this. You seen this, you know, that sort of thing.

[Dana Carvey]

How much money would it. Would it take to get Kyle Mooney to play a private party? You don't have to answer that. But I'm just saying it's funny to ask you. I mean, how much?

[David Spade]

Bad comedian.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. I have a child, so now that I have to support. So I will do and take anything for hire.

[David Spade]

No, he's for hire. Like, we all are.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. I mean, above 10k, for sure.

[Dana Carvey]

Super bowl commercial.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes, please. This is what we all want, right?

[Dana Carvey]

Yes.

[David Spade]

Most money for the easiest.

[Dana Carvey]

Say that everyone turned down commercials in the 90s because that's a sellout. And I think about it and it frustrates me because we read ads hours and hours a week for any product.

[David Spade]

So we're done being Pearl Jam and fighting the fucking power.

[Dana Carvey]

But I am happy when I see Access and all members doing giant commercial campaigns, knowing they're making a ton of money. It makes me happy. Good. Good for it. Because selling out is taking money and being in a really shitty movie or something. But it's not selling out when everyone knows you're there to get a check to do the commercial.

[Kyle Mooney]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

It's the opposite of selling.

[Kyle Mooney]

I am so eager to get in that game. I've been.

[Dana Carvey]

I've.

[Kyle Mooney]

I've had a couple of those opportunities, but I. If. If Bud Light is interested in doing anything with me, I'm like, I'm fully in.

[David Spade]

So, yeah, people tell me I sell out every commercial I Go. You don't know me. I sold out starting during SNL. I was doing one, 800 collect. Beep boop bop boop, beep bop beep.

[Dana Carvey]

You did sell out early.

[David Spade]

Not enough.

[Dana Carvey]

No, no, not enough. Not. Not. Yeah. I think I'm going to think good thoughts about you getting super bowl commercial or just some kind of long term campaign.

[Kyle Mooney]

I appreciate.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, for a phone company or she's like, like a tech guy. Like, like you'd be great. The guy in the store, like the Target guy or Apple Helper guy. Do with your wiring is more confusing or just passive aggressive or whatever you do with that. Be funny.

[Kyle Mooney]

I love it. Okay.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay. All right.

[David Spade]

For this young man who's answered everything we've thrown at him and oh, I just casually.

[Dana Carvey]

I just thought it was cool that I just such a fan of Jonah Hill. I just love the way he, as an actor, he's somebody pops. It's pretty cool. His company was part of your film Y2K.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, absolutely. And like, you know, when he, when they came on, that was really the moment that the movie came together and that A24 signed on. So like. And I feel like, you know, he, you know, he's, he's, he, he made Superbad such an, like, he was so incredible in that movie. And that movie has become such an iconic teen film that I feel like having that sort of association. And that stamp does bring a lot of value to, to our.

[Dana Carvey]

Is it, is it flattering? I mean, probably must be like, does he call you up and stuff and say he's a big fan or he reads the script or, you know, it's something I'm. Obviously, he's a fan, you know.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, no, he's, he's always been very. He was, we sort of became aware of each other or met each other prior to me being on the show. He was a fan of, of our Internet videos. He's, you know, he's from the LA area, I'm from San Diego and I made these videos, these inside SoCal videos where like I play a San Diego bro essentially. And I know he really liked those. So he reached out early on and then when he came, he hosted, I think twice while I was there. And each time he came on, he's like, we should do something maybe three times. And that's so special. I don't know how many times you guys got to experience that when like a host knows you and it's like, I want to do a da da da. You know what I mean? So, yeah, he's He's. He's always been really cool and supportive. For sure.

[David Spade]

Now, your budget couldn't have been too huge, though. This isn't like Aquaman, right?

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, I agree. I'd say it's not exactly like Aquaman.

[David Spade]

It sounds like Aquaman the way you told me it. But yeah, it's got.

[Kyle Mooney]

And that might be that I'm pitching it poorly because I really don't want to give the impression that it's like Aquaman.

[Dana Carvey]

Jason Momoa texted me during this podcast and said, man, I'm going to Y2K Friday night. You in, bro?

[David Spade]

He's like, dude, this sounds like a fucking rip off.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, they're just doing Aquaman, parents.

[David Spade]

Exactly. Doing Aquaman.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, Seth. And you're not even saying comedy safety belts because this movie is gonna blow your mind. If you could do an ad with an announcer Promoting Y2K, a television ad, what would it sound like? If I could do Y2K, they don't know what's gonna happen. You know that kind of.

[David Spade]

Yeah, mainly you might zapped.

[Dana Carvey]

Wait, here he goes.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay. Why 2k? When do you guys want me to go?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, go 1, 2, 3.

[Kyle Mooney]

Y2K. Y2. Not.

[David Spade]

2K or Y2K. That's the question.

[Dana Carvey]

Why Mooney? Kyle K.

[David Spade]

December 6 All right, thank you, Kyle. We won't play on the spot anymore.

[Kyle Mooney]

Such a fan. I. I hope to see you guys at the 50th and hang out and fan of the show and fan of you guys. So thank you for having me.

[Dana Carvey]

Appreciate it. It's been a thrill and good luck with the movie and I feel you're going to be doing a lot of films and that's just a great career making films that you control and love.

[Kyle Mooney]

I believe, but certainly do my best.

[Dana Carvey]

In between that big ass fucking commercials.

[Kyle Mooney]

I want. I want my ass to be huge in commercials.

[David Spade]

All right, bye, guys.

[Dana Carvey]

All right, take care, Kyle.

[David Spade]

This has been a presentation of Odyssey. Please follow, subscribe, Leave a Like a review all this stuff. Smash that button, whatever it is. Wherever you get your podcasts. Fly on the Wall is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss Berman of Odyssey, and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.