RE-RELEASE - Chloe Fineman

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

Episode: RE-RELEASE – Chloe Fineman
Date: February 18, 2026
Podcast Host: Audacy
Guests: Chloe Fineman (Saturday Night Live cast member)

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Overview

In this engaging, joke-filled episode, Dana Carvey and David Spade sit down with SNL standout Chloe Fineman for a candid and hilarious conversation. The trio discusses Chloe's journey to SNL, the art and chaos of impressions, collaboration and competition among cast members, backstage realities, and the unique pressures of live comedy. Throughout, the tone remains light, collaborative, and authentically showbiz, with plenty of spirited riffing and warmth.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Chloe’s SNL Journey & Roots

• Bay Area Beginnings:

  • Chloe and David bond over shared Bay Area roots: she's from Piedmont/Berkeley, he’s from San Carlos.
    • [04:18] Chloe: "I grew up in Berkeley, and then in high school, I moved to Piedmont."
  • Chloe reveals she’s lived in New York for nearly 20 years after attending college there, even before SNL.

• Early Interest in Comedy:

  • Started in improv classes as a child, influenced by the local Bay Area scene (including brushes with Robin Williams' circles and Rob Schneider).
    • [22:04] Chloe: "My dad...would take me to improv at Fort Mason in San Francisco. There were a lot of, like, Robin Williams friends..."

2. Chloe’s Impression Game: Process & Stories

• Approach to Impressions:

  • Chloe is known for her broad range of celebrity impressions, from Drew Barrymore and Jennifer Coolidge to Greta Gerwig and Nicole Kidman.
    • [10:09] Chloe: "Drew Barrymore...they all do pretty good. And then I think I do way too many...People...are kind of like laughing just to be nice."
  • She prefers tackling “beautiful boys” over “real men”; Harry Styles and Timothée Chalamet were particular challenges, especially performing Chalamet in front of Chalamet.
    • [11:02] Chloe: "I can do like beautiful boys. Real, Real men? No, I think they're so hard."
  • Her process often starts with mimicking laughter and mouth movements; she finds award show acceptance speeches especially ripe for inspiration.
    • [31:26] Chloe: "If I'm really stuck, laughs are such an in...the way their mouth is doing and their laughs."

• Lauren Michaels, Feedback, and Pressure:

  • The hosts and Chloe discuss Lorne Michaels’ enigmatic feedback style, sharing “zen koans” of showbiz advice.
    • [15:07] Chloe (quoting Lorne): "'Yeah, you always want to live in a place you can't quite afford.'"
    • [16:42] Chloe: “If you’re doing the same thing you did in your first year, in your fifth year, it’s time to go.”
    • The anxiety of Lorne psychoanalyzing each cast member and how castmates are left to wonder how they’re perceived.

3. Backstage at SNL — Writing, Sketches, & Collaboration

• Contrast Between Cast Members:

  • Chloe describes her dynamic with Sarah Sherman, contrasting their stage personas ("two nice little Jewish perverts").
    • [08:47] Chloe: "Two nice little Jewish perverts coming out."
  • They riff on how differing comic energies get blended in double-headliner shows—“After Dark” shows mix Chloe's impressions (sometimes with “orgasm” punchlines) and Sarah’s more bodily, offbeat, or grotesque fare.

• Writing and Pitching:

  • Chloe explores the delicate politics of collaborating with writers, feeling nervous about wasting their time and striving to build lasting relationships through mutual "wins" (having sketches get on air).
    • [39:24] Chloe: "I'm the most nervous on the show just in terms of like letting writers down...if they cut it, those people aren't gonna write with me again."
  • She reveals the intense and draining nature of all-night writing sessions.
    • [40:28] David: "Tuesday night at 2am...the souffle is just deflated. Five minutes of no talking."

• Pre-Tapes & Behind the Scenes:

  • Chloe details the process and unpredictability of getting pre-taped sketches approved, sometimes learning 15 minutes before selection.
    • [51:12] Chloe: "It's cool with the pre tapes...you'll get an email like, 15 minutes before the pics are out, asking to Zoom for your video."
  • She shares a disaster story about a seafood tower-themed sketch stinking up the writers’ room during rewrites.

4. Iconic & Awkward Moments:

• Beavis and Butt-Head Sketch (with Ryan Gosling):

  • The group recounts the famously “broken” Beavis and Butt-Head sketch, which had everyone on set breaking character, especially Heidi Gardner—turns out the sketch had been pitched multiple times before.
    • [43:11] Chloe: "[Heidi] never breaks. That was what was so, like, delightful...it was so hard [not to break]."
    • [44:32] Chloe: "There's a Jonah Hill dress rehearsal you can watch...they said the Jonah Hill one's hilarious. It just never made it past the finish line."

• Celebrity Impressions:

  • Chloe demonstrates and discusses impressions of Nicole Kidman, Greta Gerwig, Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Coolidge, among others.
    • [24:52] Chloe (on Nicole Kidman): "I think it's like N U U U U U U U A, A, A E E E E R R. No, no, no."

• Audition Stories:

  • She originally auditioned with Meryl Streep, Nicole Kidman, and Greta Gerwig; her Greta Gerwig impression was the only thing that got Lorne to laugh.

• Bird Calling and Letterman Appearance:

  • Early bird-calling contest led to appearing on Letterman as a teen; humorously self-deprecating about the oddly adult subtext and awkwardness.
    • [18:56] Chloe: "We said something about, like feeling your inner bird, but you were like these like 15 year old girls. It was weird, but it was on tv."

5. The SNL Cast: Past and Present

• Cast Changes & Dynamics:

  • Chloe came in with Bowen Yang and Shane Gillis' short-lived tenure; she refers to veterans (like Kate McKinnon, Cecily Strong) with respect and awe.
  • Discusses the challenge (and relief) of having impressions or pre-taped sketches with “super seniors.”
    • [49:21] Chloe: "Just getting those super seniors to be in your video was so hard."
  • She reflects on a sketch where she did impressions of castmates (e.g., Melissa Villaseñor, Kate McKinnon) and the reactions to it.

• Current Show Vibes:

  • Chloe expresses a sense of camaraderie in the current cast, noting that the group is "cooking" and feeling more cohesive as the cast has settled in.
    • [52:57] Chloe: "It's like. Found it, but we've, like, figured each other out a little bit more."

6. Silly vs. Political Comedy

• The trio discuss the audience’s hunger for silly, abstract, or even “weird” sketches as a relief from the politically charged climate.
  • [55:55] Chloe: "It's...opened the Door for weird, which I think is so nice...I'm not the smartest with the political stuff, so I don't."
  • [56:39] Chloe: "We're in the era, age of weird."

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Chloe on Impressions:
  • [16:42] "If you're doing the same thing you did in your first year, in your fifth year, it's time to go."
  • [25:06] "I have weird taste...Greta Gerwig...that was the only one thing he [Lorne] laughed at in my audition."
  • [28:38] "Everyone I know has been doing [Jennifer Coolidge] since we were, like, 10 because of American Pie."
  • [30:07] "If I make a goal of doing an impression...it's kind of a bad feeling when you first start and you don't have it at all."
• On the challenge of live TV/comedy:
  • [41:07] David: "Keenan is so articulate...he has like a mischievous vibe...he's not breaking. But you see he's enjoying it."
• Dana on Lorne Michaels:
  • [17:14] "He [Lorne] goes, 'they can't miss you if you don't go away.'"
• On writing pressure:
  • [39:24] Chloe: "I'm the most nervous on the show just in terms of like letting writers down."
  • [40:28] David: "[Tuesday 2am]...the souffle is just deflated. Five minutes of no talking."
• Reflecting on creative failures:
  • [35:39] Chloe: "It was the hardest bomb ever...she and I haven't written since...when you bomb that badly, it's like, hard to recover a bit."
• On adapting to the SNL process:
  • [51:12] "You'll get an email 15 minutes before the picks are out, asking to Zoom for your video."
• On the current climate of comedy:
  • [56:39] Chloe: "We're in the era, age of weird."
• On political impressions:
  • [56:18] David: "If I do Biden, I feel like I'm doing something really nasty and wrong..."

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Select Timestamps for Important Segments

• Chloe’s background and Bay Area upbringing: [04:18]–[05:10]
• Impressions origins & process: [10:01]–[13:06]; [24:46]–[31:38]
• SNL audition and Lorne Michaels stories: [13:55]–[16:42]
• Collaboration and winning with writers: [38:06]–[40:28]
• Behind-the-scenes of Beavis & Butt-Head sketch: [41:07]–[44:56]
• Bird-calling contest & Letterman story: [18:56]–[20:47]
• Reflections on cast, changes, and pre-tapes: [47:41]–[52:14]
• The urge for "weird" in comedy and political avoidance: [55:52]–[56:39]

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Conclusion

This episode is a revealing and laugh-heavy look behind the SNL curtain, with Chloe Fineman’s candor and comic energy perfectly matched by the hosts’ playful banter. Fans are treated to frank talk about artistic anxiety, career progression, the realities of writer-cast collaboration, and the lasting influence of SNL’s legendary “impressionists.” The episode navigates both the light and shadow of pursuing comedy at the highest level – offering both aspiring performers and armchair fans a rare fly-on-the-wall perspective.

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Transcript

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[David Spade]

Chloe.

[Dana Carvey]

Chloe Feinman. Dana. Lovely young lady that was with you more than me. I've only seen her. I saw her at the Marcelo premiere and then I saw her when I did the show. But you're more familiar with her. She's great though.

[David Spade]

Yeah, she's great. And she's from the Bay Area and we did the Jennifer Coolidge sketch which she asked me to do. She wrote it.

[Dana Carvey]

That's right.

[David Spade]

With Ariana Grande.

[Dana Carvey]

Remember her?

[David Spade]

And that was really fun.

[Dana Carvey]

That was a killer. That got big laughs.

[David Spade]

Yeah. So she's just a super talent, lovely young person, funny.

[Dana Carvey]

She may do the most impressions on that, on that show.

[David Spade]

She's one of those people, she could play characters, do impressions. I mean, she's totally built for sketch comedy. And the Drew Barrymore, I think I.

[Dana Carvey]

Hit her on dm. I didn't know her, but I'm like, that Drew Barrymore was a killer. Like trying to throw out compliments here. And there when I watch the show or even when I see stand ups, you know, on my feed, I'll kick them something just to say, hey, one more person out there saying, good job on that bit. But Chloe's great. We had a lot of fun with her, as always, boys. And she's such a sweet person. So here she is. Chloe Feynman.

[Chloe Fineman]

No.

[David Spade]

Okay, Chloe, I have a character, a new character for you.

[Chloe Fineman]

No, no, no.

[David Spade]

A person trying to get on Zoom with technical voices coming. Go to AR7. Do you see a blue dot? No.

[Dana Carvey]

Do you have a Bebop Deluxe button.

[David Spade]

Yellow button in the corner, like some sort of Roman numerical numbers in the upper left hand.

[Dana Carvey]

It looks like a kaleidosis.

[David Spade]

All right, let's. Let's click out and try again. We've been through this for years. It's very common. Martin Short took 45 minutes.

[Chloe Fineman]

Did he? Okay, that makes me feel wonderful.

[David Spade]

I was kind of giving it, but I think a half hour.

[Chloe Fineman]

Okay. And I took 10 minutes. 99. And I'm. That's. Yeah, that's. Are you guys in LA?

[Dana Carvey]

That factors out about, Right?

[David Spade]

Southern California. Undisclosed location.

[Chloe Fineman]

Okay, okay, okay.

[David Spade]

I don't need any paps in my life. Like. Like, I'm really, really getting followed a lot. So you're in the white hot world of Saturday Night Live and you're living in Manhattan.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Wow.

[Chloe Fineman]

Zoom in from the kitsch.

[David Spade]

Did you live in New York before? Spend time in New York before you got snl?

[Chloe Fineman]

I did not speak. You're from. Did you ever live in Northern California?

[David Spade]

Oh, yeah, no, I'm. I'm from San Carlos. And you're from Piedmont?

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. Berkeley is.

[Dana Carvey]

What I tell people is Piedmont.

[David Spade]

Piedmont is a really, really nice place. I've done.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. My brother lives there.

[David Spade]

But the name comes really.

[Dana Carvey]

Piedmont right now.

[Chloe Fineman]

Really? That's insane. Yeah. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Is it next to Cokeland or not?

[Chloe Fineman]

Oakland. Oh, I get it.

[Dana Carvey]

God damn. I'll say it one more time. I'm not gonna walk you through all of them.

[David Spade]

You can only use that joke when someone near Oakland is on the. My driver.

[Dana Carvey]

I went to see my brother. Of course I have a driver. And he goes, welcome to Copeland. I'm like, what?

[David Spade]

I keep track of these Copeland jokes. That's David's seventh.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. And within four minutes.

[Chloe Fineman]

Wow. No, it was. It was more of a marijuana place growing up. I grew up in Berkeley, and then in high school, I moved to Piedmont.

[David Spade]

Berkeley's pretty cool.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. Cool.

[David Spade]

The first time I lived in New York, I was like, doing something anyway. I was, like, 25, 26, and I'd never been to New York, so I just wondered. You'd lived there before, and then you get back and now you have the coolest job you can have in New York. Pro, probably.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. I went to college here, so I. I've been here in the West Village for, like, over almost 20 years.

[David Spade]

That wasn't on your research, was it?

[Chloe Fineman]

Okay.

[David Spade]

My first 20 minutes, I got a tear off.

[Chloe Fineman]

No, no, no. Yeah. I went to school here, so I've been here since I was, like, 18. I'm 35.

[David Spade]

Okay.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

And did you ever walk by Rockefeller Center? You knew that's where SNL was, and kind of go, huh?

[Chloe Fineman]

I had a really exhausted roommate who was an intern. She was like a page, and she was so tired but so happy. That was the only knowledge of it. I went to, like, drama school, so I thought I would do, like, Shakespeare. I never thought I would do.

[David Spade]

Can you give us a little Shakespeare? What's the ultimate Shakespeare? Robin Williams did a lot of. He was doing Shakespearean stuff, and he always had one leftover Shakespearean thing. He wouldn't use the mic, but he was just being Robin Williams. Oh, look, the moon, it hangs low like a testicle in the sky. Like that was. He did that a thousand times.

[Dana Carvey]

A little bit of a hybrid.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

Is this a dagger I see before? I guess. Is this a penis I see before me? Come, let me clutch thee. There we go.

[David Spade]

Oh.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, not too hard.

[David Spade]

Common problem. If Mike went down, Robin would always go, oh, common problem. He had so many. We love him, but. So what else do you want to talk about?

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, we know you're Doofy, buddy. Sarah.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. My little freakazoid pal.

[Dana Carvey]

How is. I want to ask you that. You did the Paramount. She hit me up and said, we're doing the Paramount after you. And I was like, look at these girls. Within minutes, they're doing the same theater I'm doing after I've been sweating and slugging it away for 50,000 years. And then I think it probably sound like fun, but how does that happen with you two? And then what do you do?

[Chloe Fineman]

That's a good. You know, we're very different, but it works. Yeah. Two, I think we're. Obviously, Sarah's, like, extremely disgusting and nauseating, and there was like, a 30 minute slideshow of a. Of, like, a vagina prosthetic that Louis was mad at her that he didn't get to make. And it is so disgusting. And then I come out and I do my impressions, but I make them orgasm. So it's like. It's like a rated X. Yeah, yeah, I try.

[David Spade]

It's an After Dark kind of show.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, you have your crossover audience from snl, and so it's more potent. And then it would be like me and Dana going out. It's like people that like it go, oh, if they like one, they'll take the other. Or they like you both. You know, that's always fun. And it sounds like it's a very intriguing show that I would see, for sure. I think it sounds just fun because I don't know what it is.

[Chloe Fineman]

Right.

[Dana Carvey]

So people just want to go. Because you're both good and you're both funny. So that's.

[David Spade]

And also your Personas. We're just meeting you now, which is fun. And Sarah is. Is sort of sweet. I don't know. Or like, you're. You're not like, kind of, you know. And then when it. When you're working blue, it has this energy to you.

[Chloe Fineman]

Two nice little Jewish perverts coming out. Yeah, it was good.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. I saw when we did Chloe, the. I used to work at the show, too, when we did the. Whatever, Sandler's tour. And then she was on a couple with me. Yeah, it was so funny because I didn't know her at all. And then she was actually super easy to talk to. Super fun, very magnetic personality. She's very sweet. And then she gets out. I don't know her act at all. Then she's like, new York, where's my New Yorkers? Sticks the mic out, and they kind of go, hey, there's a couple.

[David Spade]

All right, what about that pizza?

[Dana Carvey]

How about the garbage? And then now they've stopped applauding. What about abortions?

[David Spade]

What about that?

[Dana Carvey]

And she goes on for another 19 times around the side going, yeah, now I love it. Because she doesn't give a fat buck at all.

[Chloe Fineman]

No, she did a lot of chilling abortion material in Intortion.

[Dana Carvey]

Chunk.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, yeah. Big abortion Chunk is great.

[Dana Carvey]

You got to follow it. I'd be backstage going. I'm up there going, should I do 711 then McDonald's?

[David Spade]

If you're orgasm as your impressions, which are really stout.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I want to hear a few of those, dog. Hear that.

[David Spade]

Which is just to get the. Which one kills the artist, which one they eat up.

[Chloe Fineman]

You know, it's different. It's different every place. I've been doing it for years. I'm always like, God, this is so hack. But, you know, not everyone. I'd say, like Drew Barrymore. Starts strong. They all, they all do pretty good. And then I think I do way too many than I should. People get and then they're kind of like laughing just to be nice.

[Dana Carvey]

In Texas, the Ted Cruz orgasm does better.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

There's like some old, like an old Melania Trump one. I do them all. I just do them all.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, you do, do you do Melania? Did I say it right?

[Chloe Fineman]

I think so, Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, we're talking about. And do you do. I've seen you do men. Is it harder or is it. Is there any difficulty to do men?

[Chloe Fineman]

I can do like beautiful boys. I think like a boyish. A beautiful boyish man is much easier. Real, Real men. No, I think they're so hard. Harry Styles, I remember like doing in front of Harry Styles at the show and I bombed so badly.

[David Spade]

Horrible horse was.

[Chloe Fineman]

No, no, no. And, and like he was like looking at me in disgusting. Discussed. But yeah, doing it. And I, and I. Most of the men I do, I happen to do it in front of them.

[Dana Carvey]

God.

[David Spade]

Timothy, Shalom is kind of your. I mean he's, he's so huge right now. You're the only one who doesn't. There it is.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. Yeah. But he's nice about it. You can tell. It's. I don't know, I'm like a lot older than. I just feel like this like weird older woman, just like obsessed with these little boys. He's very kind about it, but it's hard not to. I don't know if you have this where you like slip into the, slip into the voice when you're around the person.

[Dana Carvey]

No, because you're sort of mimicking. You're picking it up as you go, probably.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. And they give you all these. Get like. Yeah, he was totally, totally.

[Dana Carvey]

Dan is great at that.

[David Spade]

Well, we're, you know, sister, brother from another mother. Yeah, I did. With your Timothy. You. Yeah, you find, you find these rhythms and hooks and then they really help you get in it. It's like what's that sound you just made as Timothy?

[Chloe Fineman]

So like. Yeah, it was like listening to a lot of interviews. This was like before he became huge. I, I started working on him and it was like, you know, growing up in New York. You're growing up in New York as an actor and kind of like rhythm literally like goes like that and then he laughs.

[David Spade]

Yeah. And that's it.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, just like a 19 year old billion. He's like the most famous guy. They don't, they don't give a shit. That's why he doesn't get mad.

[David Spade]

You're kind of. You're in that mold where you're accurate, but you're also an abstractionist. You're. You're making it into a character.

[Chloe Fineman]

I tried to. I think that's like. After hearing, like, Lauren will talk about other people. You know, I don't know if he does that to you, where he talks about other people, to kind of have you glean insight into yourself. And he'd always talk about you or Fred not being. Having a take. Yeah. Not being like. So it's not like a biopic.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Dana Carvey]

It's just sort of a.

[David Spade]

It's.

[Dana Carvey]

It's only. It's probably going to get laughs. Sorry, Dan. It's probably going to get laughs. Meanwhile, I'm the guy that doesn't do impressions. But it gets more laughs when I watch you or Dana.

[David Spade]

You do do an impression.

[Chloe Fineman]

I say, you're a little. Yeah, but I saw your Lord.

[Dana Carvey]

God damn. I thought, how long did it take.

[David Spade]

You before you had a Lauren? Like, day one or what?

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, honey. I think as soon as I sat across the first time I met him, I was like, this is never leaving. The first thing he asked when you have to, like, meet him, he was, I'm from the Bay Area. And he was like, are your parents hippies? And then that was.

[Dana Carvey]

I, like, when he talks nothing about, like, you're auditioning for the show. Come in, come in. Wait five hours. Then you come in. He's like, do you like baseball? You're like, what? It's just something. Nothing about show business or anything. I just like to get a feel. He told me once, I go, lauren, I'm looking for an apartment. What are you up to, David? He's totally bored with nothing else to do. Come in. And I'm like, oh. And then he goes, sit down. I'll make some calls. And then he goes. When he's done with the calls, he goes, what's going on with you? Basically like, are you still on the show? So I go, yeah, yeah. And I go, yeah, I'm looking for an apartment, but I'm a little torn because one's like Upper west side, and one's like lower Upper west side, but one was a little more expensive. And he goes, it's important where you live. And I go, I know.

[David Spade]

He's very right.

[Dana Carvey]

I think it's more of the price point.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yes. Wait, the thing he said to me, which is why I'm always like. Which is why we're trying to do these Paramount shows as Much as possible. He was like, yeah, you always want to live in a place you can't quite afford.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, it's very close to what he said to me. Exactly. It's very important. So it is. Money's not a problem. And I'm like, is.

[David Spade]

Is it, though?

[Chloe Fineman]

I think it is, yeah.

[David Spade]

Do you. Have you been in, like. Okay, you're on 8H, and Lauren's office is on the 9th floor, and there's glass. I'm painting a picture for that listeners. And then you see the rehearsal down there, and you're up there hanging out with him talking about something. And then in his own incredible Lauren way, you know, be like, kevin's going through that. You know, it's the second season and where is this? You know, he psychoanalyzes. Not in a very sweet way. Not mean, but you always wonder what he says about you when you're down there.

[Chloe Fineman]

I'm so terrified. I have very close friends who are writers on the show, and they just will not tell me. And I know it's. I know it's awful and would, like, never get out of my head what Chloe's is.

[Dana Carvey]

She's kind of stuck in a. And they're like, what?

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like. But then I feel like when he talks about other people and maybe it's that crazy making. But you're like, is he trying to say something about me? You know, where it's like, well, so and so was. You know, if you're doing the same thing you did in your first year, in your fifth year, it's time to go, you know, and you're hard. Not hard not to be like, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

It'S hard to take it constructively and move on.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Number one time he said to me, any. Anything new or are you pretty much played out?

[Chloe Fineman]

I know.

[Dana Carvey]

Did Bush Senior and Bush Jr. Have another baby? There might be another third one to do.

[David Spade]

Yeah. And it does kind of scare you. I mean, I was. This is in 80s, early 90s. I worry about the show because he'd get me worried. And I'm like, it's summertime. And I'm like, yeah, and you're also killing as well, you know. Yeah, it's remarkably the same.

[Dana Carvey]

Chloe. I have one. He told me this is the last thing we'll talk about. He said. He goes, see you on a lot of talk shows. I go. He goes, anything to add to that? And he goes, well, they can't miss you if you don't go away. Oh, that's a good one, though.

[David Spade]

That's a lot of talk shows.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

I mean, hey, it's like doing commercials. And I think he was saying in general with celebrities. Do a movie, lay low. That was actually the old school now. Yeah, now it's podcast, but, you know, just go away and. But that doesn't work anymore. You can't go away. There's no way to do it.

[David Spade]

Hey, Sal.

[Dana Carvey]

Hank.

[David Spade]

What's going on?

[Dana Carvey]

We haven't worked a case in years.

[David Spade]

I just bought my car at Carvana.

[Chloe Fineman]

And it was so easy.

[Dana Carvey]

Too easy. Think something's up?

[David Spade]

You tell me.

[Dana Carvey]

They got thousands of options, found a.

[David Spade]

Great car at a great price.

[Dana Carvey]

Huh.

[David Spade]

And it got delivered the next day.

[Dana Carvey]

It sounds like Carvana just makes it.

[David Spade]

Easy to buy your car, Hank.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, you're right.

[David Spade]

Case closed.

[Chloe Fineman]

Buy your car today on Carvana. Delivery fees may apply.

[Dana Carvey]

We heard you. Nine years of bring back the snack.

[Chloe Fineman]

Wrap and you've won.

[David Spade]

But maybe you should have asked for more. Say hello to the hot honey snack wrap.

[Dana Carvey]

Now you've really won. Go to McDonald's and get it while you can. Back to Chloe's.

[David Spade]

Back to Chloe's. Back to medieval her. We like to. Oh, Chloe.

[Dana Carvey]

What's a peafowl?

[Chloe Fineman]

Gosh, that was a.

[Dana Carvey]

Is that a peacock?

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, yeah. It's like maybe. So you did that first impression? Yeah, we had a bird calling contest at my weird high school and then we were flown and went on David Letterman when I was like 15. And he was kind of dirty. Yeah, yeah. He said. Or we were dirty. We didn't know we were. We said something about, like feeling your inner bird, but you were like these like 15 year old girls. It was weird, but it was on tv.

[Dana Carvey]

Was that dirty?

[Chloe Fineman]

I don't know. He was like, whoa.

[David Spade]

I think I saw that.

[Dana Carvey]

You saw her doing her pee foul?

[David Spade]

Yeah, I remember the bird call thing. And it sound. Just do it again because it's reminiscent, I must say.

[Chloe Fineman]

It was the way I have to get up. No, no, the way they do it in the high school is like. Yeah, you kind of put on like sketch. It's like you do bird sketch. You. You like develop a skit. Right, right. My friend and I like some like Arsenic and Old. I don't know, we're these two old British ladies. And then. And then the bird call happens. And so the people who win the bird calling contest, ultimately, I feel like, have not hellishly bad a sketch comedy.

[Dana Carvey]

That's great. You know, I do one. Watch this. This is birds in the morning. God, I'm not hitting the High.

[David Spade]

Wait, your sound went out. You do really quiet birds.

[Dana Carvey]

I play it.

[David Spade]

Why Wait, what's the other one?

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, here's a bird flying away. Ready? You know, I could have fit right in to your high school.

[Chloe Fineman]

No, you totally know. The easiest one was someone if you, like, grab your throat for turkey. It's like.

[Dana Carvey]

That's like one. That's early first year.

[David Spade]

When you're. When you're a little kid and you're. You're seeing people on TV doing what you're doing now. Do you remember that feeling of. And then you're actually doing it? It's kind of cool. I mean, did you. I'm trying to think of your age group. Like, who blew your mind when you were 10?

[Chloe Fineman]

Well, I mean, you. You guys certainly did. We had. I'm older, so we had vhs. Like, Best of VHS tapes.

[David Spade]

Reruns.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. No, no, they were like compilation. Yeah, vhs. And my best friend had all of them. And we'd stay up and watch them all the time as kids. And then when I was, like, in high school, that was like the Kristen Will era. But I've been watching it since I was like, I have a video of me as a toddler in Berkeley and the cone head in the background. You know, it's just forever.

[Dana Carvey]

Love the comments.

[David Spade]

And was your dad an actor or.

[Chloe Fineman]

My dad is a. Is improv guy. No, he's in biotech.

[David Spade]

Oh. I just thought maybe he's insane.

[Chloe Fineman]

My mom is a painter, and my dad, when my mom was pregnant with my sister, would take me to improv at Fort Mason in San Francisco.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay.

[Chloe Fineman]

And there were a lot of, like, Robin Williams friends and her.

[Dana Carvey]

And.

[Chloe Fineman]

And I would go to this class with Rob Schneider. Would take this drop in class. Yeah. And then I would do it as a little kid. And then he retired, like, I don't know, 10 years ago. Now he goes twice a week. Once on Saturday in San Francisco, and then in Marin, in Mill Valley on Wednesdays with my mom.

[David Spade]

Mill Valley?

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Schneider's from Half Moon.

[David Spade]

I have a house there.

[Chloe Fineman]

Do you? Okay, I believe you. And I might have at one point had the same doctor in Mill family.

[Dana Carvey]

Whoa. We would show you the other guy's X rays.

[David Spade]

Huh?

[Chloe Fineman]

I'll bring it up offline. I don't know. I had a weird doctor who claimed to, like, do you or do your doctor stuff.

[David Spade]

Oh, really?

[Dana Carvey]

You should see. Here's some clips of Dana's colonoscopy.

[David Spade]

I have a doctor. I still have an MD in San Francisco.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

Is this boring? You David, I'm sorry, no.

[Dana Carvey]

Because Dana says no, it is. But Dana also his. When he calls in for his prescriptions, the secretary goes, oh, no, I need your address.

[David Spade]

Well, no, I call in for the same prescription every 30 days. She's very sweet. You want to do what? Oh, yeah, I need the same one I did last month. Oh, I'm going to have to talk to the doctor. And then 30 days later. Hi, it's Dana. Same prescription, same pharmacy.

[Chloe Fineman]

So awesome.

[David Spade]

Oh, you want to do what?

[Dana Carvey]

Well, don't a lot of people call for prescriptions? Oh, yes, but.

[David Spade]

So what was.

[Dana Carvey]

I have a Chloe question. Yeah, why?

[David Spade]

I have more of my nurse impression.

[Dana Carvey]

I love it. She goes, oh, she's confused.

[David Spade]

Oh, you have a question for our guests?

[Dana Carvey]

Well, first of all, she's into fashion. I wonder if this green pops on zoom.

[Chloe Fineman]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay, that's. That's one, definitely. And that's from someone who has an Instagram where there's, like, always, like, it's funny to see you go from serious funny Chloe. Then you're like, serious, like, knockout, like, fashion show blue seal. Good, I won't bore you with that. But also, Nicole Kidman, I did a comment on one of yours Instagrams because the way you say no is so funny. And I was trying to relive it with letters. But how is the proper way to say no? No, it's kind of N A, R.

[Chloe Fineman]

I think it's like N U U U U U U U A, A, A E E E E R R. No, no, no.

[David Spade]

It was so fun. I mean, do.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yes, do.

[David Spade]

And so you try to do these impressions, or do they sometimes just come to you like you do? You seek out. Okay, I'm going to do a Nicole Kidman. Sometimes at snl, it helps if you're assigned someone and you're like, okay, I gotta try to learn it. Yeah, no one else does Nicole Kidman or is anyone else?

[Chloe Fineman]

Not really. I feel like. I feel like most.

[David Spade]

Except for Keith Urban.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

You cornered the market.

[Chloe Fineman]

I think I. I have weird taste. I just, like, I don't know. Meryl's like, I auditioned with, like, Meryl Streep. Nicole Kid, Greta Gerwig. Like, I just really like Greta Gerwig. Yeah, that was like.

[Dana Carvey]

A new one.

[Chloe Fineman]

That was the only one thing he laughed at in my audition. I heard him.

[David Spade]

Chuck, what was your take on her? Yeah, her. Like.

[Chloe Fineman]

Oh, yes, yes. And she talks and, you know, these little gifts, like shapes and gestures, you know? Yeah, he had, like, a thing that's.

[David Spade]

Funny if you didn't even know who I was.

[Chloe Fineman]

I just remember it's usually, like, I get inspired, I guess, when people win awards. Like, there's, like, them on talk shows. You get a lot. But I think when someone's, like, having, like, an emotional thing happen, I guess, like winning an Oscar, I just find it so funny. Like, Greta Gerwig was like, hey, yes, yes. This women gift. Yeah. Like, they're hyperventilating. That's how I got my. Frances McDormand was like, okay, I'm hyperventilating. Okay. You know, inclusion writer. But, like, she had a hyperventilating. I don't know. That's. That's usually when they come to me. I don't really seek them out. I just makes me laugh so hard.

[David Spade]

About award shows and that what you're talking about. Does it feel like sometimes they'll win the Oscar, like Frances McDormand, and then they'll come up and they're exactly. The character. Like, she's this tough, total kind of alpha woman.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Sometimes, maybe to win an Oscar, you're just go super far away from the character so that when you get up there, you're like. You're, like, talking like this, or you're playing some street hood or something. Just an observation. Go. This is like every. Every acting class I was ever, ever in. You're alone. You're Italian. Go, go, go.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, she's a name.

[David Spade]

I want to fan out on some of these. Okay. We've already done those, which I love. Reese Witherspoon. Which is like just a sound kind of.

[Chloe Fineman]

Huh? It was like I was watching her on Oprah and the way she said Oprah made me. Or she was like, I'm not an Oprah. And she'd be like, I'm murder. The way she said murder, like, really killed me. It's like someone in her throat, like, you know, it's like. I mean, I guess I do. Everything is ultimately a bird call, I realize.

[David Spade]

Yeah. Really? Yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

Kind of how I sound.

[David Spade]

Jennifer Coolidge is just so. Such an interesting.

[Chloe Fineman]

You do that, right? You must.

[David Spade]

No, I don't.

[Dana Carvey]

Who? Dana? Froze.

[David Spade]

Did I freeze?

[Dana Carvey]

Keep going, Chloe.

[Chloe Fineman]

Almost in a. Almost in a Jennifer Coolidge way.

[Dana Carvey]

You can go. Yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

Oh. I mean, everyone I know has been doing that impression since we were, like, 10. Because we drop American Pie.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, that's right.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

But Lauren likes Greta Gerwig. Because I think when you come on snl, I only had one impression. But if you come on and do something that hasn't been done well. Yeah. Like, walking at this point. But to do early walking was great. Like, I didn't do it. But when you saw. We saw my name, Jay Moore. There's some. Back in the day. I'm like, oh, my God. Because you don't see it. And then you see it and you go, oh, it's so clear.

[Chloe Fineman]

Totally.

[Dana Carvey]

It's good to find those. And so you see somebody new. That's great.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. I also find. I think it was when I was, like, auditioning, there were. It was like, don't do Drew Barrymore. Don't do Jennifer Coolidge. Don't do Christopher Walken. Just stay away. But then I ended up doing Drew Barrymore just because I thought mine was really good. But I do think that that's fun. And if I see people do like, God, I saw someone do, like, Rosamund pike the other day, and I was like, that's awesome. Like that. It's exciting, you know?

[David Spade]

Yeah. Because it's not someone who's overexposed. So.

[Dana Carvey]

Right.

[David Spade]

Really have to go. Oh. Then you go, oh, that's it. You know?

[Chloe Fineman]

Totally.

[David Spade]

It is.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

I'm lazy. I find it hard. I find it. If I make a goal of doing an impression, it's kind of. It's. It's kind of a bad feeling when you first start and you don't have it at all, and you just get it to yourself in a room and you have. No, you're horrible. I can't do it at all. It's really a weird. How do you do it? You just. What's your process?

[Chloe Fineman]

Sorry, it's. It's that. No, it's totally that. I mean, I remember, and now I feel like once you've done enough of them, I feel like, in a weird way, they all sound the same. And so you're like, I'm not good anymore.

[Dana Carvey]

You're starting with the same voice, your own voice. And it's hard to make it so different every time.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, it was easy when I was, like, alone in la. Like, Chalamet was really bad at first, but I had, like, the luxury of just kind of being, like, sad and alone in my hot apartment with no air conditioning. I don't know. Like, that was.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

Easy. And then I was doing stuff at UCB and the Groundlings at the time, and the worst one I've ever done and I still can't get it was Lena Dunham. It was like, for a UCB show. And I think it was like, if they sound a little too close to Your own to my voice. It's like, I can't. My brain just like, doesn't know what to do.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Dana Carvey]

Also, I don't think people maybe they know when they're listening. But a lot of it is also not just you. It's a writer knocking at your door at like 1am on Tuesday going, hey, can you do Sydney Sweeney? Because we got you doing it in the scene. You're like, oh, oh, tomorrow. Okay. And then you just have to kind of go, all right, I gotta find something. And then a funny wig. And then, you know, things could help it a little bit. But totally, you've gotta. You gotta be ready when you get assigned someone in a sketch.

[Chloe Fineman]

I do feel like if I'm really stuck, laughs are such an in.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah, Mouth.

[Chloe Fineman]

The way their mouth. What their mouth is doing and their laughs. Anyway, that was.

[Dana Carvey]

That your mouth can move around a lot.

[David Spade]

No, I just find it interesting. Like, you're okay. So you do all these impressions and every. Everybody knows it. And then you're doing characters and you kind of, in a way, you don't want to be couched as like, people today. It doesn't really matter to me at this point. Oh, you're the impressionist guy. Well, I go, what about church lady Garth and Hans and Franz? I go, oh, so you know, inventing Chloe, Just you as an actress. Oh, this is my new character you want to do. It's like, I'm gonna have to talk to Lorne. But I just thought inventing Chloe was such a cool. And Piper Dunster and I feel like someone who has an ear and can do these things can also, of course, do all these other things. It's just. It's on demand. On Saturday Night Live, there's a lot of demand for celebrity impressions. So it's just great for someone with biggest payoff talent.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, I feel like all of us kind of, you know, you, like, find the thing that you can get on the show in your first year or two. Sarah disgusting me. Sarah's like, prosthetics brilliant. And then I was like, impressions. And then, you know, you're like, okay, this is like my life raft. But now that I'm in my fifth year, like, I don't really done that many this year. I don't know, it's. It's nice that we can stretch ourselves.

[Dana Carvey]

Keep coming up.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, you go on.

[Dana Carvey]

Sarah's like, guys, nobody do a six foot tall vagina this week because I'm doing it. Okay, Is that like an update thing?

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, but Sarah says That, like, Sarah's done, like, amazing characters this year and, like, these awesome pre tapes. And I kind of really focused on three tapes for, like, back like, last year and the year before. That was like, the thing. And now I've done a lot more live. I don't know. It's cool. You can really, like, stretch yourself at the same time.

[Dana Carvey]

What was the character you did a pre tape with during COVID where you had a short blonde wig and then you. You played both parts?

[Chloe Fineman]

Ulay.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, Ulay. And then you were. And she was living with you, and then you had to film. Did you have to do that all yourself or not?

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My boyfriend all the filming. Yeah. He was in the other room working on a quibi show, wanting to act. Absolutely. The whole time. Rip.

[Dana Carvey]

Are you drinking hairspray? What is that.

[Chloe Fineman]

A water bottle?

[David Spade]

I have a notion. I don't know what it is, but I, I. When I think of you as an actress and wanting to really commit, there's something in my head here that it's you and Sarah, probably presentational, like some sort of science symposium to high school kids or something. And there's little volcanoes in goo, and Sarah starts to make sexual innuendos, and you just get really, really mad. Like, you accelerate to I will you up, you know, basically, without saying that if you do that woman, you take her aside.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

I just think you letting go with that kind of anchor on anger, that's a great idea doing.

[Dana Carvey]

Maybe it's a science, but just the rhythm of that.

[David Spade]

See you being so funny in that character.

[Chloe Fineman]

We were talking. No, that's really. We. We want to go. Like when it was Sarah's first year and we got the Please don't the PDD boys to stay up till like, five in the morning writing this sketch where we were, like, we were kids, we were sisters who had come home trick or treating or covered in chocolate, like, on a sugar high. And it was Jason Sudeikis, and him and Heidi were, like, realizing they were going through a divorce. And he kept, like, interrupting, being like, I don't know. And it was the hardest bomb ever. The PDD guys were like, that's the worst sketch we've ever done. And she and I haven't written since. We haven't done anything. Like, it's so.

[David Spade]

Really.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, we got to get over. We realized that in Austin. Like, I haven't written with the PDD since this candy thing.

[Dana Carvey]

Really? You bought yourself a year.

[David Spade]

Can you get eye contact in the hallway?

[Chloe Fineman]

Oh, yeah. We, like, love each other. I just was like, God, and it was so long ago. I think everyone's forgotten. But sometimes when you. When you bomb that badly, it's, like, hard to recover a bit.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, what if you're at science fair and you're in high school? This is more of a sketch gets a little drier. She goes. It's like the volcano is. Is coming. And then you go, Can I talk to you for a second? Simple aside, what are you.

[David Spade]

I want to see you escalating, getting angry. You know, like, hair, a frizzy wig. And I just feel like.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, basically.

[David Spade]

I don't know the PDD guys now you have to do all the work.

[Dana Carvey]

No, they take your suggestions.

[Chloe Fineman]

No, they. Yeah, they work. They work really well with the cast, and then they do their own stuff. Jake.

[Dana Carvey]

So there's a couple. One for them.

[Chloe Fineman]

Oh, no, no, they don't ever do that. Although there's a writer, Jake Nordwind, who. He pitched something to them, and it didn't. It didn't go. But, you know, they're open to. There's a lot of, like, today's Monday, so when I get to work, everyone will be in Mike Dechenzo and Jake's office or PDD's office, and they all kind of, like, give each other ideas in a way.

[Dana Carvey]

Right. Who's the host?

[Chloe Fineman]

Dua Lipa.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, nice. Yeah. Who's the music?

[Chloe Fineman]

Dua Lipa.

[David Spade]

Who's gonna be in most of the sketches?

[Dana Carvey]

There's a lot of doubles lately. I don't know if I love it.

[Chloe Fineman]

There's a lot of doers get it. That was so bad. Yep. All week.

[David Spade]

I used to be a licensed therapist. Oh, I didn't know that. So what are you. You're five years in, you're doing great on the show, you have all your buddies there. You're in the trenches with everybody. What is your headspace like? Are you feeling like. Because some people, like EDDIE MURPHY, Day one, they're like, at a 10 as far as comfort there in your fifth season, are you feeling good, excited, or you're still like, where are you at?

[Chloe Fineman]

Right.

[Dana Carvey]

Where you at?

[Chloe Fineman]

Where you at? I mean, we only have three shows left, so I definitely. And it's 80 degrees in New York, so it's definitely that, like, senior vibe. I also think.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

Summer senioritis a little bit. There's also. I remember there's, like, those life rafts you need in a year, you know, like, you need enough things to hit to feel like you're not getting fired. I still. I mean, because I knew People in their fifth year who did get let go, you know, so it's. It never goes away.

[Dana Carvey]

It's a common feeling.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. And I think now I'm kind of like, well, so and so needs a. Like, making sure enough people need wins. Although that's just what other writers have said. They're like, I'm not gonna write.

[Dana Carvey]

They say wins. I never even heard that.

[David Spade]

Wins. You know, just something that they make their mark, really.

[Dana Carvey]

No, it makes sense.

[Chloe Fineman]

Hits. Yeah, they were like, you've had a good. You had a good run, got a.

[Dana Carvey]

Couple doubles, but not a home run lately.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, yeah. They're like, I need to help. Because when you reach out to writers, like, I need. I'll try and help you with this, but I need to help so and so get a hit.

[Dana Carvey]

It is hard to ask a writer. I would ask Smiggle or I'd ask Conan, and they're like, they're already busy with something. It's hard to go.

[Chloe Fineman]

It's.

[Dana Carvey]

Hey, I have. Knock, knock. I have a dog shit idea that's not formed at all. Could you spend three hours cracking the code with me to make it a C plus?

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah, we're busy.

[Chloe Fineman]

No, I have a lot of, like, I don't know. I. I'm not as, like, brazen about. Right. Like, I'm like, I have to have. I hate wasting their time. And, like, I'm the most nervous on the show just in terms of, like, letting writers down. And the fear is that they won't want to work with me again because that is, like, the only way to survive the show. And so, yeah, I don't really care about if the sketch. I guess I only care about, like, well, these people help me write it, and if they cut it, those people aren't gonna write with me again, you know? So, like, that is a big part of it. And. And having enough. Yeah, yeah. And it is that thing of, like, I can waste this writer's time for, like, two hours trying to crack my horrible idea, or I can just my wispy idea, suffer alone until I somehow have an idea. I've gotten better with that. I don't, like, suffocate writers to help me. I don't know. If I don't have something, I'll be like, I'm gonna. I'm just gonna sleep on this and not, like, ruin someone's. I don't want to ruin relationships.

[David Spade]

You just gave me a sense memory of, like, Tuesday night at 2am I know. 6am and you're in a Room with writer and everyone's just like this.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

The idea. The souffle is just deflated. It's just like five minutes of no talking. And then like, what if. Maybe if Farley could come in, you.

[Dana Carvey]

Know, fall to the ceiling and save it.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, that's us. No one's. No one is laughing. Everyone's like bloodshot eyes and it's like. Well, Keenan could enter. Keenan's are. Yeah, yeah. 100. Yeah.

[David Spade]

Right. Keenan is so articulate and so clear and he has such a strong voice and he has like a mischievous vibe about him. Like, he's not breaking. But you clearly see he's enjoying it. By the way, I just want you.

[Dana Carvey]

Really held together that Beavis and Butt Head.

[David Spade]

I was going to ask you about the Beavis and Butthead because I know you came. Came in at the end, I think.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

And so I thought because Ryan Gosling is such a huge star and his attitude, he's. He's kind of breaking the whole show. But it's so entertaining.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

So. Because people. But that's. That's kind of a famous show. And now a famous sketch of the most broken. So just speak to your. From your point of view.

[Chloe Fineman]

I mean, it was. Well, for Mikey. None of us knew. That's what he. Even when we were.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, really?

[David Spade]

That's what I thought. They escalated it.

[Dana Carvey]

Right.

[Chloe Fineman]

We knew. Yeah. Like when we blocked it on Thursday, everyone was laughing just because of the lines that Ryan and Mikey have. Are so stupid. Like, I think Ryan has a line. Yeah. Where he's like, I actually have a really busy life. Like, that would always make Mikey like.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

The dumbest line ever, actually.

[Dana Carvey]

And you think he's not talking to him. He's like this guy over here.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. Yeah. And then they ad libbed on Thursday, or maybe it was Friday when we were blocking the. Like, I don't know this. Hi, Joan. Nice to meet you. Like, that was added. But then. Yeah. Just. Mikey just looked so fucking dumb. It was. It was shocking.

[David Spade]

What was the difference in his makeup between. Because everyone had seen it.

[Chloe Fineman]

It wasn't. Yeah, we all saw that dress. I think it was just the. It was like this.

[Dana Carvey]

He just amped it up a few percentage points.

[Chloe Fineman]

He just made himself like 20 dumber.

[David Spade]

That's all you need.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. And Keenan never, like. Keenan carried that. Like.

[Dana Carvey]

I don't think Keenan was great.

[Chloe Fineman]

Worked as much if you didn't. To the point where like, rolling. Yeah. By the time it got to me, I was like, I can't like, super break it's. Annoying. Like.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, right.

[David Spade]

It was already. Yeah. Because.

[Dana Carvey]

Did Heidi stop?

[David Spade]

Heidi was already. That was. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Yesterday. Yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, I think so. I don't know. I'll see her today. Yeah. But Heidi never breaks. That was what was so, like, delightful about.

[Dana Carvey]

I've never been adorable.

[David Spade]

And it was more than a break. It was laugh out. That was a gut laugh. It made me. I think that thing has like 20 million views or something. I mean, it's really kind of a.

[Chloe Fineman]

It's awesome.

[David Spade]

And it's Mike. Yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

Well, Mikey and Heidi have known each other forever, so I think it's also like two long time friends. I. I think she's. Yeah. With a lot of love for each other. So it's like. It was so hard.

[Dana Carvey]

Hard.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. There's a lot of love behind that too.

[Dana Carvey]

It was just great. It was fun to see. Everyone looked funny in it and then just seeing that and then she really, like, got like. She can't stop. Which is always fun to watch. Just a fun one. And Ryan Gosling's a huge star.

[David Spade]

The construction of the writing, of having Keenan be the voice of the audience.

[Dana Carvey]

Like stupid AI conversation.

[David Spade]

That, that and then the seriousness and back and forth. It's sort of just a really. Well, yeah. It operated on all cylinders.

[Chloe Fineman]

It did. But I don't know if you know this, but, like, they have pitched that sketch so many times. I didn't know this.

[David Spade]

Oh, really?

[Chloe Fineman]

There's a Jonah Hill dress rehearsal you can watch there.

[David Spade]

Wow.

[Chloe Fineman]

Oh, yeah. This is like the third time maybe. And they said the Jonah Hill one's like, hilarious. It just never like made it past the finish line. So it was cool. When air. When it happened on air, all these writers came down. Like Streeter Seidel was there watching it because I think he has taken that thing to table like five times.

[Dana Carvey]

Jeez. Whoa. Motivational speaker didn't get on right away. That took a long time.

[Chloe Fineman]

Really.

[Dana Carvey]

And that's. People would be shocked. And actually the writer Bob Odenkirk had left. And then we came back in the season and did it. That's a. That's a weird scenario.

[Chloe Fineman]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

Have new cast members. Which ones have come on since. In the last five years so that you would be the wily veteran or. Or you came in with Bowen and just Bowen. Shane.

[Chloe Fineman]

Oh, yeah, And Shane.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Did you meet Shane when that happened? Or you never even got to meet?

[Chloe Fineman]

No, no. A part of me, like. No. I met him at like a one of those, like, Lauren baseball games, like two years later, and he was so sweet.

[Dana Carvey]

Can you get us some hot dogs, Chloe?

[Chloe Fineman]

Yes. Would you like on it?

[Dana Carvey]

What do you want? You met him there? He was there, yeah.

[Chloe Fineman]

At a baseball game, like two years later. Yeah. It was crazy.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, two years later.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. Yeah. But Bowen was a writer before I was, so I really felt very new. But Bulla. Damn. Bulla and I were the. Were the same year.

[Dana Carvey]

And then love Danbula genus. Solid. Solid.

[David Spade]

And you came in as feature writer or just feature or cast? I was just.

[Chloe Fineman]

No, no, Featured cast. Cast. Featured player. I think they call it a player. Yeah. And then, gosh, who came after me then it was like Andrew just mukes and.

[Dana Carvey]

Know everyone was on the show.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, I do.

[Dana Carvey]

You're like, I'm.

[Chloe Fineman]

I'm just trying to remember. It was like me and Bowen then. I feel like it was punky. And through Lauren hall, then came the Sarah Judge. This guy Aristotle year then.

[David Spade]

Yes.

[Chloe Fineman]

Then they brought in 100 people. Marcello. Marcello, Devin and Molly, who does the.

[Dana Carvey]

Impressions and she's not there anymore.

[Chloe Fineman]

Melissa.

[Dana Carvey]

Melissa.

[David Spade]

Melissa.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, Melissa was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like three years in when I started. Melissa had been there for four or five years.

[Dana Carvey]

I see her in Marcella.

[David Spade]

One thing that speaks to your ability is the understudy sketch where you did Melissa and you did Kate to them. That was kind of interesting. How did they take that?

[Chloe Fineman]

I was so scared. Especially like, you know, I think we are all really close. But, you know, when I started the show, like, Kate had been on the show for like nine years and was a superstar, but is one of the loveliest, weirdest. I was about to be like, down to earth and very down to earth. But like, hate. I was like, I think I'll get a kick out of it. But like, Cecily, I was really intimidated. All those women I was so intimidated by. But then it was sort of this, like, sweet. Cecily was like, so into it, which was shocking. And Kate was great. And I was like. It was a thing too. When I had started, if you had a pre tape I'd written, actually, with Dan Bulma, we wrote this murder show. And, like, just getting those super seniors to be in your video was so hard. So I was, like, shocked that they even were open to being in a pre tape.

[David Spade]

Can they turn it down for seniors?

[Chloe Fineman]

I've had. I've had things turned down. Yeah.

[David Spade]

What that was.

[Dana Carvey]

That was already approved.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, I've had that. Yeah. I wouldn't do that anymore. Yeah. I'm not revealing anybody, but, you know.

[Dana Carvey]

But then you have you. How many of you.

[Chloe Fineman]

Kate has never. Kate was always in everything. And that meant a lot to me. I've never turned anything. I love the pre tapes. I could be there for hours.

[Dana Carvey]

Pre tapes are tough. I know. Do you. Do you don't do them? When do you start? That's my last question. When do you start on pre tapes? Because we used to only do them. Dana. Right after read through. Like on a Wednesday or Thursday?

[David Spade]

Wednesday, Thursday, kind of.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Because how do you know what's probably what's approved before Ryan Gosling gets it? Do you get him working Monday morning?

[Chloe Fineman]

No. Well, now they're doing these promos. So, like, I have to shoot a.

[Dana Carvey]

Promo tomorrow where you walk around with a host or do something.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, yeah. They're like, can you do a dua Leaper impression? I'm like, no. So I'll. I'll do, like, I'll find some bird call version of her tonight.

[David Spade]

So you. Literally, right now, just for our listeners. So you've been assigned this impression.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

And you have to have it down by tomorrow. And you don't have it right now.

[Chloe Fineman]

No, she's British. No, I'm not like a. Like, Melissa was. Part of Melissa's genius was she could do these singing and prep like Lady Gaga. I cannot think of me.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, you'll have a funny wig. You'll have an accent. You're halfway there.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, we'll be okay. But otherwise, yeah, Wednesday night, they pick your stuff, hopefully. And it's cool with the pre tapes because usually you'll get an email like, 15 minutes before the pics are out asking to zoom for your video. So. So it's really sick as hell to be. Like, our thing got like. We had.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, you know, that's how you find out you got on.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, yeah, like a Pilates video. And it was like, you got the Bing. And we were like, oh, and then.

[Dana Carvey]

When is the next morning?

[Chloe Fineman]

No, then we. Then they have to build. They build the set Thursday, and then we shoot it Friday. And then. But for, like, the under. When it would be like a knee centric video that would be done. Sometimes they would pick it on Wednesday, but not really. And then be like, we're gonna do this next week, but shoot it like on Monday, or we're gonna shoot it on Tuesday. And then the writers were so mad. The inventing Chloe. We shot on Thursday, so that was the next day. And we weren't thinking. And it was when everyone was doing rewrites, I think, and we had. We wanted, like, seafood towers, so we basically, like, stunk up.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, I saw that. That looked expensive, by the way.

[Chloe Fineman]

Really expensive. It was really gross. And, like, all the writers were, like, locked in the room. They were so mad.

[David Spade]

Oh, yeah, that was.

[Dana Carvey]

That rewrite table with Jim Downey was probably dating, what, 15 hours of. Oh, just going over every goddamn sketch, and you weren't even in them. Or you wrote one.

[David Spade]

You just go, spade, wake up.

[Dana Carvey]

What do you got for me on this one? You're like, yeah. This guy says, yeah, yeah, that's. That's a tough. That was a tough job that day. All right, Dana, what else do you have for lovely clothes? Do you have a question?

[David Spade]

You're off the show this week. There's no show this week. No, I'm kidding.

[Dana Carvey]

Good.

[David Spade]

So I think we'll do another hour. Unless you're. We could go into our second hour.

[Chloe Fineman]

But.

[David Spade]

Just say hello. Hello to the cast. They're all brilliant. It's the show's cooking.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, it is. It really. It's like. Found it, but we've, like, figured each other out a little bit more.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Brillo pad. Sarah Sherman.

[David Spade]

The audience just keeps discovering. Yeah, Crazy Sarah. What did she say? The sun has knockers. Oh, yeah. She was on our show.

[Dana Carvey]

She goes, by the way, just FYI, audience, Dana and I, I told her later. I go, we both found out later we didn't understand the truth.

[David Spade]

We didn't understand.

[Dana Carvey]

And we just laughed because it was so bananas. But she said, you know, they're saying Earth is flat, but I think the sun has big knockers. I didn't connect that. And then we did all these jokes about it. And then later, when I Saw it on a clip. I go, oh, I get it. I didn't even get it.

[David Spade]

I didn't hear the earth is flat. So that was the thing that. I thought it was non sequitur.

[Dana Carvey]

And I was like, why do I even say I'm in comedy? I didn't get it. I was so embarrass. Missing. She did a bit, and we thought it was funny anyway because she's like, you know how the sun.

[David Spade]

The sun has big knockers because she.

[Dana Carvey]

Has a funny voice. But you can go walk to work now.

[Chloe Fineman]

I could actually today.

[Dana Carvey]

Or do you have a limo?

[Chloe Fineman]

No, no, no, no. I like the sub. We're. I'm near Westport, so it's like seven minutes. Five minutes on the train. Get out.

[David Spade]

All right. Our la. Our last thing. We'll let you go. Do you have a fake pitch for the re. The meeting today? Like, Chloe. This little bit will be like, chloe anything.

[Dana Carvey]

You're like, hi, Dua. That's how you start.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, yeah. Hi, Dua. So over the break, that's usually how it starts. I'm gonna think so. I'm the worst at it. Yeah. Mine are, like, weird. Everyone has their thing. There is our Sarah Marcelo kind of does this, like. So I was thinking that he does, like, a chalamet, like, sexy baby thing. I take. I'll have it one way. And then the pitch is so bad. But then sometimes they do become sketches.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

They bite on.

[Dana Carvey]

The host doesn't know. They bite on a fake pitch.

[David Spade]

And you go, oh, Sydney Sweeney.

[Chloe Fineman]

I pitched her the Hooters idea where I was like, maybe work at Hooters and we're counting tips. I get $20, and you made like. You're like, cool. I made like, $40,000. And then she DM'd me to write it. And then we got in so much trouble for, like, sexualizing.

[Dana Carvey]

Funny.

[Chloe Fineman]

But it was. You pervert over here.

[Dana Carvey]

I know. You perv. That was a good one. That was very funny. When you're counting your money.

[Chloe Fineman]

Stupid. Yeah, stupid.

[David Spade]

Some of that just silliness. I think this is sort of. I don't. I just. The way the world is all this madness and everything and just abstraction. That's why be was a butthead. Maybe.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Hit so hard and.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

That Hooters catch.

[Dana Carvey]

Just.

[David Spade]

I think we're in the mood for, like, just.

[Chloe Fineman]

I know. I think so. I think the political client, like, we also, like. It's. You can kind of touch it, but not really. It's like. It's. It's open the Door for weird, which I think is so nice. Weird, like a really. Yeah, yeah. Because I. I'm not the smartest with the political stuff, so I don't.

[David Spade]

I do. I do these little shorts for this just because if I do Biden, I feel like I'm doing something really nasty and wrong.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

So I kind of totally do it.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

People get so mad when there's so many Trump jokes.

[David Spade]

But I have done some silly little things and people. I don't know, people seem to like that now. I don't know what you call it. Abstract or we're weird.

[Chloe Fineman]

I like that. I like that a lot. But movies, like, I was thinking that. The Sasquatch sunset. I don't know. Movies are weird. Everything's weird. We're in the era age of weird.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, it's funny because there's a lot of superhero movies because I figured out that the bad guy can't be a certain race or religion, so you make him just a monster and then no one gets mad. Well, you know what I mean? Or you can be a transformer and.

[David Spade]

They go, think of it. The influence on. On entertainment is because of the trauma of Hiroshima in Japan. There was all this radioactive Godzilla movies and worse than. So it is an influence on whatever the zeitgeist or the emotional freak. The emotional temperature of the culture.

[Chloe Fineman]

Yeah, yeah, totally.

[David Spade]

So two people having fun, being really silly and, you know, it's just great. So, yeah, I'll be watching Saturday. Don't. Yeah, we'll watch.

[Chloe Fineman]

Well, yeah. Thanks, guys.

[Dana Carvey]

Chloe, thank you for doing a zoom from the kitsch your new skin.

[Chloe Fineman]

Hey, you're welcome. And I'm sorry about being so inept at this beautiful microphone, but at least I nailed it. I'm gonna bring this to pitch. I'm gonna just pitch.

[Dana Carvey]

That would be so funny.

[David Spade]

Just.

[Dana Carvey]

Hey, Dua.

[Chloe Fineman]

Hey. I actually think I might do that.

[Dana Carvey]

It's pretty funny.

[Chloe Fineman]

Loose my.

[Dana Carvey]

Dua. Dua, can you hear me? She's like, yeah, I'm two feet away. Okay. Sometimes this doesn't work in here.

[David Spade]

So nice to meet you.

[Chloe Fineman]

Nice to meet you too, Chloe.

[Dana Carvey]

Thank you.

[David Spade]

I wish you all the best and keep having fun and say hello to anyone who would ever care.

[Dana Carvey]

Anybody that loves. Hey, guys. If you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app, give it us review 5 star rating and maybe even share an episode that you've loved with a friend.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey and executive produced by Danny Carvey and David Spade, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman, Maddie Sprung Kaiser and Leah Reese Dennis of Odyssey.

[David Spade]

Our senior producer is Greg Holtzman and the show is produced and edited by Phil Sweet.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kurt Courtney and Lauren Vieira.

[Dana Carvey]

Reach out with us Any questions to be asked and answered on the show? You can email [e-mail] that's a U, D A C Y I combined.