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From Australia.
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Is that your best Australia? Australia can't really be too hard. You have to be very casual about it.
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There was an Australian TV show called A Place called Home and when I watched that, I had a perfect Australian accent. And then if I don't hear it, I don't. You know, I could try it now. They sort of flatten their vips. Everything goes down like that Lassie and Jim Jeffries.
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Yeah, Jim Jeffries.
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Good, great time.
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I see him A lot of the Comedy Store. We backstage and got a big following out there.
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So huge stand up.
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A lot of stories that are completely bananas.
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Yes.
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So caught us off guard with a few. And one of us, dad is the crack up and. But I'm excited. You're excited. And here he is, Jim Jeffries.
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Jim Jeffries.
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I'm very thankful. Is we already started? Is this started?
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No, we're halfway through, to be honest. We don't have any structure or introduction or anything.
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We'll do all that later content or anything.
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Well, actually, I've met David. I've met David many times before and I've never. I've met you in passing, Dana. But I'm a big fan, mate. I'm very excited.
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I saw you go crush. We met at John Lovitz's comedy club, right?
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That's correct. That's correct.
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Yeah. A while back. And you were kind of unassuming. You had your accent and everything, whatever. And it was a kind of a rough room because that high, high stage and everything. But then you.
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Three stories.
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Then you killed. I go, God, this guy, man.
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Got some.
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Thank you.
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I don't know when that where that was. Yeah, Jeffries is. That's you power. Powerful and, and funny. I was gonna ask you that. Like you, you were one of the first that really walked outside, stepped outside the lines in some of your early specials. Like. Yeah, and I. Comedians love it because I don't do that. But I love when I see someone who's literally saying exactly what they want to say without any censorship. It's very. You do it.
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I, I, I think the thing that for me early on was just saying cant a lot was American act. I've always said I'm the Rosa Parks of the C word. Right. Because
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a lot of people are saying that.
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A lot of people before me, there was a restriction. You couldn't say it in the comedy club. There was. You could say whatever you. So my first comedy special for hbo, I swear to God, right? I swear to God. Had a light at the back of the room and it was a 15 minute mark. You know how us comics, we normally have a light when we have five minutes left, right. To get off the stage. I don't know if many people know that, but that's what we have. We have a light at the end of the room to tell us when to get off the stage. I had a light that at 15 minutes lit up. And that meant I was allowed to say the word cunt because Netflix, because HBO said to me the ratings go in 15 minute increments. We want people to like you. We don't want them to turn off in the first 15 minutes. So you can't say the C word for the first 15 minutes. So I had a light at the back, and at 15 minutes I say, aunt Pandas. A bunch of cunts. And then I'll go to the races.
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Can I plummet the ratings now?
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Let me ask you a question. Do. Are you, like, if an American hears either a British or Australian accent saying the word can't, you know, it's softer to our ears. Are you guys enamored as Australia? Should I go down there and play little tiny clubs? Not like I'm a huge star anymore, but I would play down there. Are they enamored, by the way? We. Our accents are like. We are enamored of Australian and British accents.
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The short answer is, no, we're not. You are still a big star down there. The movies are massive. The difference is we grew up watching your TV all the time. So we've. We've seen American sitcoms since. That's why there's so many American. Australian actors doing American accents in films and not the other way, you know, so we. We grew up watching. Which is weird because when I was growing up, I was a huge fan of, like, Wayne's World, right? Loved Wayne's World. Didn't know it was a sketch from SNL because we never had SNL in Australia. That was never a thing. So some of the movies that came out of SNL just seemed a little odd to us because we didn't have a show. It's like. It's like McGruber. You were like, what? Where's McGruber coming from? You know what I mean?
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Also, you thought Garth was a real guy that just had done like 10 movies, and now he's doing Wayne's World, and you're like, oh, that Garth guy is pretty funny.
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I had a sitcom back in the day on fx, and it went for two seasons, and it was just about me.
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Welcome to Cville.
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Yeah, that was the one. It was called Legit. And Legit was about me taking care of a disabled guy, which was vaguely based on my real life. We almost had a season three, but season three, the whole entire arc of season three that I'd written out, Dana Carvey was the main character, and I was going to ask you to be in the show, and you were going to play yourself. The plot line of the opening episode was I was taking care of my disabled friend, the wheelchair My character had become famous doing stand up by the end of season two. I see your character, you doing an impersonation of me on a late night show. I'm all coked up and I get upset, and so I go over to your house to confront you, but I'm chicken, so I can't knock on the door. So I get the shit out of the disabled guy's wheelchair colostomy bag, and I put it into a paper bag, and then we go up, we put it on the doorstep to light it and do the classic, you know, light the dog shit, run away. But we forget to knock on the door and your house burns down. And that's the whole season arc from then on that. That I'm your only friend and you're sleeping on my couch. And I hadn't even really met you at that stage, but if you didn't take it, I was going to ask David to do the role. I had options.
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I'll do it.
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Wow. And that you can throw the. On me up for season three.
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Yeah. Burning down Dana Carvey's house did not get picked up.
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And they go quickly.
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Any other. Just quick pitches for season three, or is that the one we're going with?
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I've got full scripts. I wrote the whole thing out. I thought it was a premise.
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By the way. The weirder the better, I say. Like, some of these shows are too by the book and you just can figure them all out if you start that way. I'm in.
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Well, the. The first. The. The first episode of season one was just me taking a disabled guy to a brothel, which is something I did in my real life. I had a friend with muscular dystrophy, and before he died, I took him to a brothel. And so it's a sweet. It's a sweet story. You know, he couldn't get laid. It's legal in Australia. I should add that being disabled is legal. And prostitution. And they finally pass disabled bill.
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I'm so glad.
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And I took him down to the brothel and this guy, this guy had died a couple of times, like his heart had given away. He'd been resuscitated. So me and his brother took him down with the full knowledge that this might go tits up, you know what I mean? So we laid him down and then, you know, the, the. The girl did what she did and then we put him back in the chair and then we went off and had a couple of drinks and that was our day. Now. Now I told the story to so many people. I made a sitcom about the story. And then cut to a few years later. I see him and he's like, hey, you made a lot of money, that story. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did. He goes, you should take me to the brothel again. It's only fair, right? So I'm thinking, this guy's going to get his second blowjob in his life. I'm going to do it. Right. I'll take him again. And I went down and they all greeted him like he was Norm from Cheers. It turns out that, it turns out that he, he gives this sob story to everyone. As soon as he walked in they were like, dan, by the way, was
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he disabled or do we know? And does the wean work? I don't know.
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Did his experience go. I don't know how Australians think of this phrase. Did it go tits up or not tits down?
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It went down, I think. Tits down.
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Something you say or not?
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No, no one says tits down. Tits up is when something goes badly. There's no tits down.
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Right? Yeah, yeah, that's, that's American too, I
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think, I think, I think the term tits up means that like a banana pill slip, like up in the air. Tits up means. It means.
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I think I want to have Australian actors because I, I've just noticed that they're not only good at American accents, they're perfect. Yeah. And I start with Russell Crowe, like.
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Yeah.
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Immaculate. And I don't know why that is. And the Australian actors you send us all seem alpha. Alpha, you know, like. No, nobody's kind of like a little guy or. They're always seem to be kind of, they,
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you know, there's, you know, there's a third Hemsworth though that's a lot shorter, who also is an actor. There's the two main ones and there's a third one, but there's a. And he's the eldest brother and he's the one who started acting first. He's really nice. But the other two good looking ones came along and went, we'll have a go.
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He's not good looking either.
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He's good. No, he's, he's good looking by our standards, but not by. As a Hemsworth, you know, he cremates us. But against those two next to me, he looks just great. But I, I'll tell you my, my one Russell Crow story, because you mentioned Russell, you know, all these guys all. There's like 10 Australians. Right. But you know, you know the comedian David Williams from Australia. No, he's British. He's on Little Britain. Was his sketch Show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the judge of Britain's Got Talent or something like that. So we.
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Oh, yes, now I know exactly who you're talking about. Yeah, he's kind of pale, really pale and kind of chubby face. Yeah, yeah.
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So me, I was. Me, David and. And Russell were going out to dinner. And Russell lives at the end of this pier and in the harbor and on the bottom story of the pier. All these fancy restaurants along Sydney harbor, right? They're all, like, lined up along Sydney Harbor. And so we went down the lift, we started walking through the car park. And so it's just a car park with a few sort of like, exit doors to different shops and stuff along the pit. And I said, well, what restaurant we going to? He goes, oh, we're going to this Chinese restaurant. I eat there once a week. It's one of the best Chinese restaurants you'll ever go to. I'm telling you.
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Try the duck, right?
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So we, we walking along and then I go, well, how do we get into it? He goes, I just walk in through the back. They know me, right? So we get to the door. Russell just bashes through the door. He goes past. There's a bloke, like, washing dishes, probably thinking someone from ice coming to get him, right? He's just washing dishes out the back. Then we go into, like. Then we go into the kitchen and there's like all the chefs in the. In the clean bit, right? So Russell bounds through. He's way ahead of us. Then me and David go in through the restaurant like this. We're like, so sorry for coming in through the back. We're very much looking forward to the meal. Thank you so much for having us. Really appreciate you. We get out into the dining area and Russell's just staying there, and he goes, wrong restaurant. I went a door early. And so it was like. It was like the most famous man in Australia, followed by one of the second most famous people in Australia, followed by me. And it just was a cavalcade of shit. We had to go back out in the street and walk out and come back in again. Anyway, he does a very good American accent.
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Yeah.
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A brilliant actor.
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I mean, he's one of the best actors you ever seen.
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Master Commander, if anyone listening has never seen it, it's like a miracle of a movie. Russell Crowe and that. The whole ship at sea. Have you seen it?
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I have seen it, yeah.
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Yeah.
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It gets you seasick, that film. If you watch it in the cinema, there's a lot of rocking around.
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I Think so.
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Son of a carpenter. My father's a carpenter and it's just an easy reference point, but yeah, the son of a carpenter I tried to say is extraordinary.
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You're playing Istanbul, you're playing massive dates, Manchester, all over Europe. Talk about what the.
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Well, I, I, I, I got my comedy chops in Britain. I, I did most of my early work in the UK. I, I went to the UK 2001 and sort of stayed there till 2010 and then I moved to America. But the British comedy circuit I think is the best in the world because the cities are so close together. You're never getting on an airplane, you're going 50 miles. Liverpool to Manchester, Manchester to Leeds. You can double up in cities. You can start. You can do an early spot in one city and then end up in. You can start in one country, you can start in Scotland and then finish in England for your night. You know, I mean it's interesting place.
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I gotta count, count me in. But.
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Well, I can get your gigs. You two would do all right. You do just fine. Don't worry about it.
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Well, what are we talking a big, big clubs or small theaters or small arenas? Big arenas.
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You could. I think you would do some medium to large theaters, you know. But I like. Let's not book the O2 just yet. But let's see how the guys.
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You'd rather sell it out than the, the 10 percenters book you in something too huge. What's the biggest room you will play on this tour?
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I have done the O2 before, but on this tour I'll do the Hammer, I'll do the Hammersmith Apollo, which is like 4,000 and I probably will do two shows there, you know what I mean? Like I'm not.
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Pretty juicy.
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Yeah, but that's like a nice room. And then there's the Manchester Apollo and then I think there's a gig in Amsterdam that's quite large that I'll do. I always do a right in Amsterdam. I've been gigging a lot in Amsterdam for the last 20 years. It's just before weed was legal, I always used to accept gigs in Amsterdam. It's like how it's like now that I'm a family guy, I always seem to find gigs in Hawaii out of nowhere that I.
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To take the family.
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The family, Yeah. I sell like 500 tickets, but it's worth it because I get to go to Hawaii.
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What, what culture as when you were at your edgies and I was going to ask you if you've adjusted anything just because you want to or you're still just as edgy. What, what are, what country accepted you was. Are the British looser with this? Are we more patrician or.
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You know, the British were the loosest country for comedy that I performed. And still to this day I've always said that like, like everyone always goes, what's the difference between performing in the different continents and countries. Comedy's, comedy laughs are all the same, but the heckling changes. So I believe that Americans try to correct you. If an Amer. If an American heckles you, they're always like, hey buddy, I'll tell you what, my sister had blood. You know what I mean? They're trying to get into argument or prove you wrong. Australians are trying to trip you up. So if you get close to a punchline, they'll just go, ah, I can't. And they'll just yell something out. So you just get off your speed a little bit.
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Delightful.
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Yeah, they're niggly little, right? And then, and then, and then the British try to out joke you. They try to say something funnier than. There's, there's a classic story, right, that down at the London Comedy Store. Kurt Douglas's Michael Douglas's brother, Jeff Douglas or something, I don't know. One of the other Douglases.
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One of the other Douglases.
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That was one of the other Douglases. Kurt Douglas's son. He's having a. He's having a bad gig at the London Comedy Store. He starts getting booed or a few jeers or whatever. And so he tells them all to off. And he goes, you can all off. I don't need this. I'm Kurt Douglas's son. And then another, and then one person stood up and went, I'm Kurt Douglas's son. And then another person said, I'm Kurt Douglas's son. And they did the entire scene from Spartacus. The British are very good. They're very good.
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I have a quick story that involves the, the C word.
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So Spartacus used to be cancer, but
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we're changing, so we're gonna set the record anyway. This is so random. And It'll amuse like 3, 3% of our audience. So Kirk Douglas is in Spartacus and he's really kind of buff and, you know, muscular. And Lawrence Olivier is in there. So the guy sees Lawrence Olivier, he's this famous old British actor, super famous. And he's doing leg presses really hard. They go, oh, Larry, you're really working out. Yeah. He goes, I'm doing Spartacus and I don't want that kunt Kirk Douglas to out physicalize me. That's all I got. That was a legitimate use of the word from a story I was told.
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Yeah, that's, that's an historical use of the C word.
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You see Margot Robbie at icebergs a lot.
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Mar. What's iceberg? Oh, the iceberg's the restaurant in Bondi. The fact you know about icebergs. Geez. You look at me.
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Look out. Dana, look at.
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Where's Bondi?
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Bondi beach is a. A populous beach that's close to the city center in Sydney. Right. And sort of it's where all the British people get sunburnt and skin cancer over Christmas. But there's a restaurant there that overlooks, like, a public pool. The public pool has ocean water that pours into it, which is kind of interesting. It's a fancy. It's a fancy restaurant. I've never. I've never met Margot Robbie. I'm a fan. I once was on. I once was the other guest on Kimmel when Margot Robbie was on real.
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Yeah.
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You know how, like, you're a guest on those shows, you never meet the other guests? Yeah.
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You have to make a point of it, because they're, like, somewhere else. You don't even know where they are.
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Yeah. They're in a different dressing room. And then you come on, then you leave. Or they've already the second guest, and then they've. They're already in their car. They're gone. Right. So. So I've been on, like, episodes of those shows. Bill Clinton was on one. Never met him. You know, these. These different people. But Margot Robbie was the other guest. And so her dressing room was next to mine, and I just sort of lingered in the hallway, just, like, acting like I was looking for something. Just. I'm Australian. I have an in. You know, I could have gone, hey,
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you know how to linger. You can linger.
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She would have accepted me saying the C word in front of her. It would have been music to.
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I'm a local. Don't you hate all these Americans here? That's what I said.
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Exactly. I would have said something like that. But I tell you what, you got to give it up. The Margot Robbie flying the Australian flag. Is there a. Is there a better person on if. If the aliens came down and they said, give us your two best, not just looking, just your best human beings. And we gave them Hugh Jackman and Margot Robbie. Come on, now. You can't get better than those two.
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That's true.
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See, I'll see you Jackman and Margot Robbie. And raise you Jennifer Aniston and Russell Crowe.
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David Russell Crowe. Is. Is he saying Australia versus America?
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We're saying the two best humans.
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The two best humans we give to the aliens to represent us, to go. This is what we've got. Okay, first of all, Russell can't bloody dance and tap Dance and stuff. Like he's not a threat.
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That's true. He's a triple threat. That huge.
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But he can sit, that guy can sing. He's like buddy.
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Brad Pitt.
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Yeah. Brad. Yeah. Well Brad's, Brad's brilliant. Yeah. Of course you were talking about Brad off the air about how, what is he, 61 or something like that and he still looks like the fact that we have a 61 year old and I haven't seen the movie that we are going to watch a drive a Formula one car and go, yep, that seems about right. Like, yeah.
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When they're forced to retire at like 30.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. He should, he should, he should have a bloody special pass for the bus. Brad Pitt at his age and he's going to be driving a Formula one car. Sure.
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And Brad ending in Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible.
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I saw Mission Impossible. Yeah. I gotta co sign that movie. It's brilliant.
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I haven't seen the new one yet.
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It was in the submarine too long.
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Oh, it's the greatest movie ever. And then you're like, well no, just see it. Definitely see it. Yeah, it's very cool. You know, you don't want to overblow something. But as far as that, like, you know these people, they don't. They take care of themselves. We were talking about that before the podcast, the old, old timey actors. It was booze and cigarettes and they died around 60. So for you, like used to one of your early specials.
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But we just said, we just said Brad Pitts was a smoker and Russell is a smoker and people, they're still smoking, they've got some special. They're getting blood put into it.
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You're like the audience correcting us like,
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yeah, well that, that's true.
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But recovery, you know, so I was gonna. Because one of your early specials really made me laugh. The only one I ever saw do this a little bit was Ricky Gervais. But during the special, I don't know if there is kind of like a set you would wander around and all of a sudden from behind something you'd pick up another pint of beer.
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Yeah.
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And I don't know how many beers you did throughout the special, but that's something I've never seen. I know you stopped drinking, but do you look at those days as any kind of funniness or. Because to me it really got my attention. Like when's the next time he's gonna grab a magic beer?
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Okay, so I didn't know that was going to be a joke. And I only Ever did that for the special. I never did that for my normal shows. I normally used to have my beers just on top of the box when I'm performing, just ready to grab. But because with a special, and I don't know if I'm doing some inside baseball stuff here, mostly we record two shows that night, edit it together or just show the best one. Right. And so they will, they, they edited in every pint I had over two shows. So it did look like I had seven pints in one hour. Right. So I can't take credit for. I did not have seven pints in one hour. Now, the reason that they were behind the box was for continuity because the pint, the level of the liquid down, and I'd be leaving empty glasses everywhere else. So just before I went out, they lined up for each show, four pints of lager behind the thing. Now, back in the day, people used to, like, go on about what a great drinker I was. I actually was a really bad drinker. I, I would get drunk very, very quickly. It just so happened in those first two specials. I was also on CoC, but if they asked. But that's the reason that was propping me up, right? And I regret doing that. My life and I, you know, if my child is watching this podcast many years later, I was an idiot. But that was why I could drink. So I gave that, I gave up all drugs when my son was born. When my son was born. I never took drugs again. When he's 12 now, and, and I, I, I, I never took drugs again. But I continued drinking and everyone just thought I was a bad drinker. Everyone thought I was getting out of control. I was actually in recovery.
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Like, so would you say like two loggers? Like two pints then you were sort of drunk? I mean, like, slurring and like, I
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started slurring after three pints now.
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Okay.
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Yeah. So, and so then I did some specials, and I was just a dribbling mess in all the specials, but I was just. And so then my wife gets pregnant with my last child, who's, who's about to turn four, and I haven't had a drink since then, so. And I, I don't miss it at all, any anymore. Not at all. I don't miss any of it. Don't miss cigarettes, don't miss alcohol. Don't miss drugs. I regret doing all of them, really. I feel a lot better.
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Well, I was noticing that you look younger than the last time I saw you, basically. I mean, you look really good.
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I'M not, I'm not sweating as much as. I mean, yeah, down.
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You're more of a, you know, it's just so.
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But I've never seen you messy, though. I think when I see you it's maybe a more professional setting, but I've never seen you messy.
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Well, yeah, well, not anymore anyway. But yeah, no, I, I just sort of knocked it on the head. The cigarettes was the hardest one. That's the hardest one to quit out of the lot is this cigarettes. And I think that's the, the I read there was a book, Alan Card, stop smoking. The secret to giving up cigarettes is this is. You stop. You stop envying people who are smoking. It used to be you'd give up cigarettes for a while and every time I'd see a cigarette I'd go, oh, geez, I wish I could have a cigarette. You got to start looking at them like they're slaves to nicotine and that you're free. That's the only way. There's my motivational talk for the day.
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Oh, that's good. Hey, I have another Kirk Douglas. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but this totally fits. This fits better than the last one.
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The last one was good. It was good. That muscly cunt Kurt Douglas.
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I had a movie with Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster. So Kirk Douglas told me his dad was a chain smoker and then he quit. And I said, well, how did you do it? So his dad took a cigarette, put it in his pocket and anytime he wanted a cigarette and he was Russian, he would pull it out and go, who is stronger, me or you?
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Me.
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He was so competitive that that just stopped it. Who is stronger, me or you? Keep back in pocket cigarette. I am strong man. You are fucking little rolled up nicotine whore. And that was the quote. I'm just quoting Kirk Douglas. I'm just quoting Kirk Douglas.
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I was at Nicotine Whore back in the day, whoring myself to nicotine.
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Has it influenced your comedy at all? Like your stand up writing just being completely off everything? Because the special you're talking about were really well received.
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And the last, the last few haven't
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been as well received once you've gotten sober.
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Look, look, Sergeant Peppers was arguably the Beatles best album, right? It was nonsensical rubbish.
B
That was all on acid and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
I don't, I don't listen to the whole Lucy in the sky with Diamonds. It was a painting, you know, like Julian gave me a painting. I'm doing more Paul there. But you know what I mean, you
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sat down for a plunk, you know, Is that how you did it?
C
We would plonk.
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John and I would look at each other sort of like a mirror. I'm just quoting him now. So. But yeah, but I love Paul.
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Are you an opera singer, Jim? Before you get a chance to answer.
C
So this is, this is a thing that always is brought up in my life.
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Yeah, I love it. It's a fake one, so.
C
No, no, it's true, it's true. So, okay, so I, I did school musicals because that was how you met girls, right? If you're not, if you're not athletic. I went and you go and do a school musical, join the drama club or whatever. That's my theory on why actors are so short. Right. I think it's because they, they couldn't play sport at a high level, so they joined the drama club. It's all about meeting girls, right? So I, I think, yeah, that's my theory anyway, because so, so I, I went and did musical theater at, at school and then there was literally like a talent scout came to one of the shows and said he could be a tenor. And we don't have many tall tenors and that's a really like a hard thing in the opera company. And so they, they, they sent me off to singing lessons with this guy called Richard Gill, who was the head of the chorus master in Australia. I sound like an old person talking about relatives you've never met. And I studied for a while and then When I was 17, I was put in the Australian opera in the chorus for one production of the Flying Dutchman, which was Wagner. And so I was just like, like I was literally singing in German. Didn't know a word of what I was saying.
A
I would just buy in German. Holy.
C
Well, I was just buying a CD and just mimicking the German, you know what I mean? And then, you know, they teach us the songs, but I didn't know what the songs were about or anything. So after that I went and studied at wapa and WAPA is the Western Australian Academy of Performing Arts, which is where Hugh Jackman studied, which they had a full scholarship ride to study musical theater. By the time I was two years into that, I was already being paid to be a stand up comic. And I just quit it in the middle of the night and just went off on, on tour. But I always wanted to be a stand up comic. But I thought you can't study that at university. You gotta. I wanted to study something in the performing arts and so I studied music and musical theater and I would like to. I can't sing anymore because cigarettes and yelling on stage and I've had polyps and nodules and nodules. I've done it. I've had the surgery and all that. You can hear me. Voice is pretty raspy now, but I could sing as a. And it's weird because everyone always goes sing as a song when they find out you're an opera singer. And it's like you wouldn't have gone up to Pele when he was like, hadn't played soccer for 50 years and gone go and do a bit of keepy up.
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See a bicycle kid.
C
Yeah. So it's a muscle. I haven't really worked, but I did do that. I still have fondness for musical theater. I still go and see any production that comes to la.
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I go to follow up questions. Okay, one, did that garner any puss because you went through a lot.
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Is that a new garner?
C
Okay, okay. I was. I will say this to any. Any young heterosexual man who can sing a little bit, right?
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Yeah.
C
If you go to university where they audition thousands of people to get like 30 kids, it was like going to fame. And half of the class is male and half the class is female. Those girls have been doing dance lessons since they were bloody kids. Right. Singing lessons, acting lessons, all that type of stuff. Right. All the boys have been doing the same. The 30 kids in my year at university, I think out of the 15 boys, 10 of them were gay. And that just. The numbers don't lie. That's too good.
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Yes, for sure.
C
I'll tell you what, it worked a lot better than being a comedian saying the word cunt all the time.
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Yeah.
C
I didn't bring as many women in as you think.
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You know, you could name your next special.
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Certain kind of woman likes that kind of talk.
C
Yeah, they were fun girls who did like me, but they were, didn't they didn't come in their masses.
B
Yeah.
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comedy royalty Kate McKinnon returns as Queen Mortuana and Heads Will Roll Heir Apparent, the highly anticipated sequel to Audible's fan favorite original comedy series. She's flanked once more by co star Emily Lynn and a new star studded ensemble including Richard Kind, Lori Metcalf, Jimmy Fallon, Megan Mullally, Sam Richardson and Carrie Coon. Plus an extensive cast of comedy greats. Seriously extensive. This is wall to wall comedy at the highest level. When we last left our gloriously unhinged Queen and her Raven sidekick JoJo, the unlikely besties had fled to the woods for a simpler life. Well, it did not last. Queen Mo is back on the throne, an heir apparent and facing her greatest challenge yet. Produce an heir before her 40th birthday or lose everything and spend eternity as Keeper of the Menstrual.
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It's a very sticky sitch. Meanwhile, JoJo's botched wing enhancement surgery turns her into a toad, leading to unexpected interspecies romance and a choice between royal duty and normal life. With her throne on the line, Mo and JoJo embark on an increasingly unhinged scheme to secure succession. Part medieval mayhem, part razor sharp social commentary, Heads Will Roll Heir Apparent is fantasy comedy for the ages. It has everything Trad wives, Polycules, Sasquatch mercenaries, milk people, toad on mole romance, a child named Barbara. Seriously, everything.
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David, when was the last time you heard of a child named Barbara? Well, don't miss a moment of Kate McKinnon and the killer cast and Heads Will Roll Heir Apparent Seed a child or cede the throne. Listen to Heads Will Roll Heir Apparent available now on audible. Go to audible.com headswellrollseries to start listening today. Hey, before we jump back into the show, let's take a quick break. All right? Not just any break. This is a refreshing break with Snapple. We all know about Snapple's iconic Real facts, so let's take a minute to go over some of my faves.
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Snapple Real fact 455 movie trailers used to come on at the end of the movies, but no one stuck around to watch them.
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I've heard that. Snapple Real Fact 831 adults laugh only about 15 to 100 times a day, while preschoolers laugh an average of 300 times a day.
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Snapple Real Fact 1983 the first player drafted to play pro football never played in the league.
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That's interesting. Snapple Real fact 1274 kickball is referred to as soccer baseball in some parts of Canada Hmm.
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So grab a Snapple, take a second, Enjoy the moment.
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Because let's be honest, this might be the most refreshing part of your day. Snapple. Make your break more interesting. Okay, here's your special, Jim. Ready? This is a new name.
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Here we go.
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Tall Tenna.
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Tall tenor. I'm calling my new special. It hasn't come out. Is called Two Limb Policy is the name of the special.
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Okay.
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Because I. I have and I talk about this on the special, but because I did that sitcom with the disabled people, a lot of disabled people come to my show. I have a meet and greet after the show. I always let the disabled people join the meet and greet, and I take photos, all the different people with disabilities, but I can't. Like, someone wrote to me and said, hey, I'm bringing my uncle to your show. He's disabled. Can we come backstage and meet you? And you can't write back how disabled.
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Right.
C
And you can't ask for a photo. Right. But we have to have some parameters. I just can't have a lineup of people with dyslexia bothering me. So I have a. I have a two limb policy. You have to be missing two limbs or they have to be doing nothing. And if you have two limbs that are up, up, you can. You're lucky enough with me.
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Take a picture of this.
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You're allowed to come backstage and meet this cunt if you're missing two limbs.
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Okay, that's good.
A
I have a question also from the audience.
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At some point, we got to get to your show because we know.
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Oh, the show is. Go ahead, Dana.
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We are out. You're on a little press tour for your show.
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Sure.
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We can't forget the show this night. The Snake.
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Snake. I saw your billboard hogging Sunset Boulevard.
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I'm not on the billboard. That's. That's how.
A
That was an executive decision. What?
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David, what was your Fox show with snake in the title last year?
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Oh, Snake oil.
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Snake oil. This is called the Snake. His was called Snake Oil.
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What channel?
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We're part of the Snake family of Fox.
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Oh, it is the same billboard. Yeah, it's by the Chateau Marmont.
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Yeah. Yeah. So we. We snake it up. Yeah. The Snake is a reality show that's similar to Big Brother or Survivor or Fear Factor. It's got elements of those three shows. So it's. It's good looking people living in a house in the jungle doing tasks where they have to eat gross food. But the what the secret sauce in the show is instead of like an elimination ceremony or where people get voted off anonymously. What happens is the person who wins the task gets to become the snake. They get the coveted snake medallion, and then if they get the snake medallion, they get to save the first person. And the person who gets saved gets to save one person. The person who gets saved gets to save another person. It snakes down the chain, setting up a chain reaction. So you don't have to have a majority rule to like you in the show. You just need to make really one or two friends that will keep saving you, but you can't repay the favor. So if someone saves you, you've got to save another person. So. So like, like you get a lot of skull duggery. You get a lot of skull duggers.
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Not enough skullduggery out there.
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Yeah, well, I tell you, I was explaining this show the other day on some good morning something, and I said the word skullduggery because that's what I always think about the show. And you know what skullduggery means? Like pirates. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Old English.
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Yes.
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And. And the lady went, so if you want to watch the snake, there's a lot of skull buggery. Buggery is the English legal term for anal sex, right?
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Yeah.
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On the Churchill movie.
C
Yeah, exactly, yeah. The word buggery is like the legal term. The buggery happened, blah, blah, blah. And so she just said on morning tv, come and watch some skull buggery. And I think it got through. I don't think anyone noticed.
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Everyone tunes in for that.
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Could I just for a second, that look. That's good. That's a winner. So just for a second, going back, because I kind of spaced out for a second. So you're in, you're in Argentina in a jungle. Where is everybody? What are they wearing and who are they?
C
Okay, so when I. I set out the start of the show, episode one, I'm standing on a crate and there's all these crates around me, which was meant to be like the crates. You'd bring reptiles in. You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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And I said, come out of your crates. You know, I've got an earpiece in. I don't quite know who's who. And they're. They opened the crates up and fed income, man. We had like, we had like, like a priest with the collar on.
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We had a.
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We had a bulletproof vest. We had a. We had a rodeo rider with the chaps and spurs and all that type of stuff.
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It's like the village People.
C
Yeah, oh, yeah, exactly. And we had. And we had I got a Village People story to tell you in a second.
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Okay.
C
So. So we had. We had only. An only fans model. Right. I thought, you know that. No Jury Judy.
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Yeah.
C
Or the Joe Schmo Show. I thought I was the only real person. And they were all actors for like the longest time.
A
They were tricking you.
C
They were tricking me. But I. I was the mark. I thought I was the mark.
A
It's a good idea, actually.
C
It's not a bad idea for a show. Right. And I'm like. I'm like, what?
B
What the.
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And you're in the middle of nowhere. You don't.
C
Because first of all. First of all, who employs me to be a game show host?
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Yeah.
C
Like, it's already weird. And so. So all these people go. And so right up until the show aired, I wasn't completely sure. But I'll tell you my Village People's story. So I do another podcast with a comedian called Amos Gill. Another Australian one percent club. Yeah. I do the one percent club in Australia. But this podcast, this podcast is called atm. At this moment, it stands for different search on the Internet. Anyway, so go. Yeah. Lingo. Yeah.
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Oh, yeah, I forgot about the other one. I gotta research that again.
C
Yeah. So anyway, so I. I was doing a joke about how Trump has the YMCA playing at all of his concerts, at all of his benefits or rallies, and everyone does the dance and all that type of stuff, Right? Yeah. And I said. I said, it's so funny that. That that song is about having gay sex in the showers and now all these evangelical people are dancing and stuff to the song. Seems a little odd. I got a cease and desist letter from the Village People saying that I was going to be sued for defamation for saying that the Village People music had gay overtones.
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Is it? Does it not?
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It turned Victor Willis, who's the cop, I guess he was always at the front and he never turned around to notice the rest of them because he's married to a woman called Karen Willis. Before that, he was married to Felicia. Like Mrs. Huxtable from the Cosby Show. He was married to her back in. Yeah. And. And. And you're not allowed to say that the Village People music has gay overtones. What? Or they will sue.
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Now, possibly.
C
We could be. Possibly. I said, what about in the Navy? And Macho man there is gay as. Come on now, come on now, come on now. There's a lyric in the Navy call called we want more semen. Like, I'm all for a double ton, but don't try to tell me I'm
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a.
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I think they're just saying, come on, guys, don't. I mean, they haven't been outed to, like, three people so far, so.
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It's a catchy freaking song, man. It is good.
C
I tell you what. Because after that, I started listening to their other music. It's banger after banger after banger.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
It's like. It's like. It's like for disco music, you can't stop the music is a hell of a song.
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I mean, that's such a hook.
C
Now, my son watching you in Wayne's world, too.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
C
He knows every step because he loves that movie so much.
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Did you do it in that?
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He. You were the construction worker, weren't you? In that?
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Yeah, I was dressed. The construction where. I think we're running away from the bad guy or something. Somehow we end up in this. This nightclub, and Wayne and I are now doing YMCA with these people.
C
Yeah, they're. They're all. They're all doing the. Yeah, the ymca. And like that. You're all spies. Like, you were up a telegraph pole. Oh, and then you heard something. And then I think Wayne was like, a cop, and then somehow they found an Indian for no apparent reason.
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That's right. And all of a sudden, it comes together, and then all of a sudden,
C
it was a little bit like. Like, what's that? Police academy. When they ended up in the Blue Oyster, it was a little bit of that. They ended up in the wrong nightclub. And then they do it. But. But that's the. That's the dance. Because you guys all did it, and then you actually did the thing. And then I always say, like, if. If the Village People actually do get me, if I get my day in court and I am being sued by the Village People, I'm gonna go. Not guilty.
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Acted out.
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Is there any character left? I mean, they've got the construction worker, the Indian. I mean, maybe you come as a other costume. I don't know.
C
Crocodile Dundee. Just off the side, you know?
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What is your son's name that loves that movie?
C
Hank.
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Hank.
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Hey, Hank. This is Garth. I got a different haircut, but thanks for watching.
C
When we end the podcast, can he come up and say hello very quickly? He's downstairs playing video games.
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That would be fine.
B
Camera shy. Just bring him up.
A
We have to whisk Dana.
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Will he come on, or you want to do it with off camera?
C
He's also a big Joe Dirt fan, so.
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Okay, bring him on. Bring him on.
B
Let's compare box off.
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Joe Dirt was my first Australian trip. I went to Sydney.
C
Oh, what? You filmed it in Australia?
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No, we. When they had a premiere there. It was the same. It was a night after the premiere of Moulin Rouge. And I went down there and I went to a concert and they sat me next to Baz Luhrman. All this great Australian stuff.
C
He, he, he. Look, he still flies the flag. I always argue that things like. I guess Moulin Rouge is an Australian film. Australian actress, Australian director, filmed in Australia. Kylie Minogue plays the Tinkerbell thing. It's an Australian movie. As soon as Kylie's involved.
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Yeah, right.
C
Kylie's out. Kylie. You can't speak ill of Kylie.
A
No, no, I think she's good. I like. I have great. Australians are great. I do like it. Go ahead, Dane. And then I have one last.
B
No, it's just weird sometimes. I was hosting Vegas showcase for movies and Baz Luhrmann was there. Moulin Rouge and Nicole Kidman. So I was hanging out with him. It's just kind of weird. You brought it up. And that's. That's my whole story. There's no joke. Nothing other than I met them at the promotion of the thing.
C
Well, I think
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nicotine. Who is stronger? Me and you, sonny. Sorry, that was just for me. I'm a little punchy right now.
A
Like, back in the pocket. Jim, one last question. We're gonna ask everyone again so you can have one more shot. This is a story from a viewer that said if this is not a funny story, we'll just take it out. I don't know if this is a funny story for me. Your father sat you down, you and your wife, to tell you something.
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I. I can't. I. I can tell you that off the air, but I can't tell it. Okay. My dad doesn't. Yeah, I can tell you off the air. I can't tell it on the air. Sorry.
B
Right. Well, we have an after hours.
C
It's because my dad doesn't know how to get onto YouTube or anything like that. But enough. It will get back to him on this podcast for sure.
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I didn't know what level of it was, but I. I apologize.
C
It's 100 true. It's 100 true. That story. It's.
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I don't know the story story. That's why I'm waiting to hear.
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We're gonna. Yeah, tell me after tease. We don't need the story, but just the tease is gonna trend.
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Yeah.
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Hey, man, it's all about click so
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let me ask you the story. I'll tell you this, okay? We can cut it out if you want. I can tell it to you right now if you want to actually hear it. No, I don't.
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I'm scared. I don't want it to accidentally.
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No, we don't want to embarrass you.
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Alex Murray tell you about this story because he knows. Oh, okay. Because me. Me. Me and David have the same manager, so that's what's happened there.
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Well, I'll tell you this about the Carvey family. My. My childhood family with five kids and Bud Carvey and all that stuff that went on. Throw away the key because no one will believe it. There's some things we leave off something better not share. Just know that it's a little whack.
C
Look, he's. He's 84 this year. If I'm back on the podcast in a couple of years, I might be able to tell you.
A
Okay, yeah, fair enough.
C
Give it. Give it some time.
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20, 27. We're gonna hold you to that.
A
All right, thanks, Jim. We'll talk.
B
Really nice hanging out with you, man.
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All right, listen, if you're enjoying the Fly on the Wall, of course, hopefully you are. Click follow. We don't want to be desperate, but obviously smash that goddamn button on your favorite podcast app. Leave a review, a good one, leave a five star rating, nothing else, and maybe even share an episode with a friend. If you're watching this episode on YouTube, please subscribe. Dana, what do you think?
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I'm gonna tell you this right now. Hear me now, believe me later. Fly on the Wall, Believe it or not, is presented by Odyssey and executive produced by. Hold for it. Dana Carvey and David Spade or David Spade and Dana Carvey. We don't write this stuff. Heather Santoro, Greg Holtzman and Leah Reese Dennis. The show is edited by Evan Cox with production support from Phil Sweettech Talent Production and booking by Sophia Lepore.
Episode: RE-RELEASE – Jim Jefferies
Original Air Date: July 9, 2026
Guest: Jim Jefferies
Summary by Section (Transcript starts at 02:13)
In this lively, comedic episode, Dana Carvey and David Spade sit down with Australian-born stand-up powerhouse Jim Jefferies. Witty banter abounds as they explore the cross-cultural world of comedy, the nuances of showbiz, and Jim’s unique personal journey—from opera and musical theater to global stand-up stardom and TV presenting. The trio covers everything from risqué language in comedy to sobriety, stories of fame, and the challenges (and rewards) of life on the international stage. Jim’s signature, incisive humor is on full display as he shares candid tales of success, failure, and growth.
Breaking Boundaries with Language
Cultural Reception of Comedy
Behind-the-Scenes of Legit
Anecdote: Taking a Disabled Friend to a Brothel
Australian versus American Phrasing
On Australian Superstars and Accents
On Performing and Touring Globally
Heckling Styles by Country
Margot Robbie, Hugh Jackman, and Top Aussie Exports
Aging Hollywood Legends
Drinking as a “Stage Bit” and Reality
Quitting Cigarettes
Sobriety’s Effect on Material
Upcoming Special: “Two Limb Policy”
Hosting “The Snake” on Fox
Village People Cease & Desist
Wayne’s World’s Lasting Impact
Encounters with Moulin Rouge and Baz Luhrmann
On Comedy Taboo-Busting
On Being Out-Joked by a British Audience
On The Realities of Drinking Onstage
On Sobriety
On Male Performers in Musical Theater
Two Limb Policy/Meet & Greets
On “Snake” Host Role
On Getting Sued by the Village People
Throughout, the episode is classic “Fly on the Wall”: fast-paced, irreverent exchange punctuated by self-effacing asides and showbiz nostalgia. Jim’s frankness about his misadventures, both personal and professional, melds with Dana and David’s quick-witted reactions for an episode that’s as insightful as it is funny.
For fans and first-timers alike, this episode delivers a generous blend of sharp comedy, unfiltered stories, and a rare look inside the global world of stand-up—by way of three of its best raconteurs.