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David Spade
He's in his own lane.
Dana Carvey
Always makes me laugh. Fun to just talk to him. We'll always try to watch him. If I hear he's going on somewhere, stay in the room and watch.
David Spade
And so we happen to have him live at the Largo with a packed house.
Dana Carvey
Yeah. And Largo's right up his alley. And what a fun dude. I love that he did it. We. We always crack up. Three of us together was really fun for me, and Largo is a good spot for it. So I just remembered that being, like, a really, really nice time.
David Spade
Yeah, it was a hot crowd. You know, it's a. It's a very hot theater. You know, someone the other day said, I don't know if I like your podcast. I go, if you heard the Zach Galifianakis episode. And they went, no, they were.
Dana Carvey
They were like.
David Spade
You had him on your show? Yep.
Dana Carvey
If you had anyone I've heard of. And we're like, who have we not? And they're like, what? Oh, I don't know.
David Spade
And then they're like, huh? And then they're like.
Dana Carvey
Then they're like, oh.
David Spade
But we have these things in our quiver, these tasty gems from our past. If you. We don't expect everyone to remember to listen to every.
Dana Carvey
Every Galdang episode. So we're throwing you some of your hit.
David Spade
One of our faves in the business and one of the faves of our.
Dana Carvey
Podcast guest, Zach Galan.
Zach Galifianakis
Hey.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, you go there. It started. It's already almost over. Okay.
David Spade
A great song.
Dana Carvey
I thought it was good.
David Spade
You know, I did an impression within the first 20 seconds. Damn this chair. Look at our chair differential.
Zach Galifianakis
The.
David Spade
I'm like a Muppet. You're like six two in that thing.
Dana Carvey
I'll go closer.
David Spade
I'm gonna get up front, be like this. What's up, Zach?
Dana Carvey
What?
Zach Galifianakis
Sorry.
Dana Carvey
All right. Is it. Is Zach here yet?
David Spade
I was. I got up at 6.
Dana Carvey
That's it.
Tony Hinchcliffe
We're warning them it's gonna be.
David Spade
I'm punchy. I'm punchy.
Zach Galifianakis
I'm overtired.
David Spade
I'm like a baby. I'm over tired.
Dana Carvey
Let's bring Zach out.
Zach Galifianakis
Because.
David Spade
Let's bring him out.
Dana Carvey
Yeah. That's the beginning. All right, Zach, welcome. Zach Galvanakis. It was a little louder for Zach, if anyone's counting. All right.
David Spade
Okay. Zach Galifianakis.
Dana Carvey
Zach's decalous.
David Spade
You're. Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm just gonna say you're something else, man.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, something else.
David Spade
Something else.
Dana Carvey
You look Like Wolverine right now with that hair.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, really? I'm sorry.
Dana Carvey
It's cool. I actually have cool hair.
David Spade
Which plugs are coming in nice.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, a lot of pluck work. A lot of plug work.
Dana Carvey
Crops coming in.
David Spade
So how you doing?
Zach Galifianakis
Is that it?
David Spade
Half mile away from you?
Zach Galifianakis
I'm doing well. David, why is that chair that way?
Dana Carvey
This one? I don't know.
David Spade
It's like a Orthopedic issues.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, okay.
David Spade
He likes to be. Seems erect.
Dana Carvey
No, I don't know. This is good.
Zach Galifianakis
Okay.
David Spade
Anyway, we don't have to talk about it.
Zach Galifianakis
No, it's all right, Zach.
Dana Carvey
Enough of this.
David Spade
So, Zach, can we butter you up a little bit?
Dana Carvey
Yeah, let's butter him up.
David Spade
Okay. How the did you come up with the two ferns thing? Because that's too crazy.
Dana Carvey
Some of you remember coming.
David Spade
Coming hot right out of the box. Because that thing is. I saw every episode today.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, today.
David Spade
Well, they're. They're. Well, I've seen them before, but I'm almost 80. I have to refresh my memory. This is an illusion. It's a lot of blood and gut and sweats and tape. So when did you come up with that?
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, it was part of a pilot that they were doing, and this guy, Scott Aukerman was producing it, and he asked me to do.
David Spade
Come on up, Scott.
Zach Galifianakis
But he just said, would you do something? And I just said, for some reason, I had this thought. I just said, can you get me two ferns and some kind of celebrity? And I had worked at a cable access show or station. I interned one in college. And so I kind of like that world, that kind of low end, desperate, tried a way to communicate. I actually had taped a class at a cable access show about how to waltz. And I got my two friends.
Dana Carvey
You.
Zach Galifianakis
Know, back when you could do this.
David Spade
Stuff, you can't do it anymore.
Zach Galifianakis
And we just put him in gowns, and it was a very straight video. And dance lessons on cable access on how to waltz with not trying to be funny. So that kind of weird world. I knew Scott Aukerman asked Michael Cera to be in the first one, and we just kind of made it weird and creepy. And I always had thought celebrity interviews are.
David Spade
What do you mean?
Dana Carvey
Ridiculous. No, they are. It's like he's talking like Access Hollywood. Oh, okay. It's a little.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just such a bizarre.
David Spade
But let me ask you about this. So the guest comes in, and I understand from my research today that you didn't really prep it with them. Did they have Cue cards, or they don't even know what's coming. And then you guys just go right at it. Or do they kind of know where you're going?
Zach Galifianakis
No, nobody really knows what's going on, even us. I mean, we have written things down. And I think the idea is they don't need to be funny. They just need to kind of answer questions. And I think the. The awkwardness kind of fills in the rest of it. And then often part of it is improv, and we just kind of. Or I'll give them something to say back at me. That's very mean. So it's kind of a very give and take. It's not a prank. I don't want to prank people because I'm sure people.
Dana Carvey
Because, you know, the publicists in this world are very hawkish and they don't want you to do anything where you're gonna look stupid. So you take the Michael Cera one maybe, and. And they either see that, because that probably goes up on Funnier Die, maybe back then pretty quickly. And then that catches on. So they go. Someone might even call you and say, hey, I'd like to be on this, because it's my type of humor. And the people you have on, obviously, are funny, and they're huge stars, and. And when they go along with it, makes them look better. It's all good. It's sort of when you're on SNL and you go with it like they. If you let them make fun of you and goof around, it seems to be funnier.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, I mean, there's. That. That is all true. I mean, but there's been some times.
Dana Carvey
When I've go sideways a little bit.
David Spade
That's what I was gonna ask you.
Zach Galifianakis
And I don't really. I don't know if I've even. I don't know if I've even spoke about it, but.
David Spade
Oh, good.
Zach Galifianakis
There's been. Oh, yeah, well, I don't. I don't. I. I don't even know if I have. But there's been a couple of instances, and I don't mean to bring people up, but yes, the name of this.
Dana Carvey
Show is Name names.
Zach Galifianakis
The reason. The reason I bring. The reason I bring it up because I was just talking about it to somebody today at lunch for some reason. So I interviewed. They brought it up at lunch today, and they interviewed. I mean, I interviewed Jennifer Aniston. Yeah. You know, you know, Smart Water, we all.
David Spade
Jennifer, if you're listening, we love her.
Dana Carvey
I only know her because of Smart Water. Right.
David Spade
What about her shampoo commercials. She's got one hair we want you to be on.
Zach Galifianakis
I mean, I don't, I guess, I mean, I don't know.
David Spade
So did you say something to her? You thought it crossed the line?
Zach Galifianakis
No, no, in the wings I had a Brad Pitt look alike.
David Spade
Of course.
Dana Carvey
Oh, boy.
Zach Galifianakis
And so I wanted to tell her about it before, you know, we started filming. So I kind of ask her if I could have a word with her, you know, like a vice principal.
David Spade
No, but someone who looks like Brad Pitt might be expensive.
Dana Carvey
Well, no, I wasn't.
David Spade
How many people look like what?
Dana Carvey
Yeah, but that's how I met a scale, minus 10. So you pull her aside and you say, is it okay if we try.
Zach Galifianakis
This or did you even get this? And I said, I have a Brad Pitt look alike here. And as soon as I said it, I read her face.
Dana Carvey
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
And it was her. I felt so bad. And I don't even know anything about that thing. I mean, I know that was in the things, but in the papers, but. So I don't know much about it, but so of course I called it off. So I went up to the Brad Pitt look, like, to tell him we don't need him.
Dana Carvey
He's wrapped.
Zach Galifianakis
Yes. And as a joke, I kind of went, well, I said, listen, we don't need you. Thanks for coming. And as a joke, I said, do you happen to look like anyone else? And without pausing, he goes, Colin Farrell. So, yeah, there's those little.
Dana Carvey
Don't get rid of me yet. I am a chameleon. Oh, it's a, you know, and Jennifer is very funny. Yeah, she's very funny girl. But I think that might be, you know, they call.
David Spade
He says he's reading the papers. You're calling her a girl. It's 20, 23, guys.
Dana Carvey
Is she funny? I mean, is she a girl? Yeah, she's great.
David Spade
She be a woman, I guess you call my boy.
Dana Carvey
I'm sorry I say girl a lot, but she is very fun person. I think when they go on, they kind of know what they're getting into and then it probably goes a hair farther than they think. And.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, I mean, I think the idea is to try to rattle a little bit as, as much as you can read people and push it. There's been a couple of times that.
David Spade
Yeah, I was going to ask you about that.
Zach Galifianakis
What?
David Spade
Well, has there been times where, like, would you do one with Mike Tyson?
Zach Galifianakis
I, I, I, Well, I don't really do them anymore.
David Spade
Okay. All right.
Dana Carvey
Sean Penn's scary enough but you're a.
David Spade
Fan of Don Rickles, right? Because you did that show. So Don Rickles, to me, as a kid growing up, was the funniest, funny guy on television. The reason is because everyone loved him. He'd put you down, and then he'd go, the show started, put Ed in the corner, give him a cookie. He doesn't know. It was so dry and so bizarre. There were no jokes. Do you feel like that was an influence for the character, the fern guy character, to ride that line? Cause it's funny because you're going right at some sort of truth about them. And if they have a sense of humor about it or a perception of them, they laugh really hard.
Zach Galifianakis
Right? I mean, part of it. I mean, if you. To really break it down, I guess, is that they are. There are public figures that people kind of want to unfortunately jab at. Anyway, there's some of that to it. And I think at the end of the day, I think it's the media and all things. Every hype. People are human. We're all, you know, obviously. And I think people that are willing to make fun of each of themselves, I think that's a real nice attribute to someone, even if it's staged a bit. I think being able to laugh at yourself in that kind of way is a nice thing. Now I've been asked to do them with other people, presidents of companies and big Pepsi has asked to sponsor it to get blown out of proportion. And I've always just wanted to keep it free online and keep it clear of those other things that get in the way.
David Spade
Sometimes the monetization people would come in.
Zach Galifianakis
And go, we've monetized it a bit, but only, only, just. Only in a way that we see fit. I mean, we've been asked to. I got asked to do a Super bowl commercial using it, and it's coming out next week.
David Spade
I can't remember a really good deal.
Dana Carvey
I did a puppy bowl commercial earlier.
David Spade
And it's I'm for sale. Church lady is blocked and loaded for.
Dana Carvey
So go deep, by the way. First of all, I'm ready.
David Spade
I'm going sell.
Dana Carvey
I've done. Dana and I both obviously sell out kings here. We. We've done.
David Spade
Well, we all are. We do corporate gigs.
Dana Carvey
And when you do them, they go, our CEO dude. Say something about. By the guy. I don't even know if the guy works there. He's like, when you get up there, say, he's got three balls.
David Spade
He beats.
Dana Carvey
Do something about that. Just throw it in there, Mix it Up, throw it in the middle. And. And then you go. And then you do it. And everyone goes, what? And you go, this guy work with you? He just told me. So they try to do that and that's kind of what they want to do to see you like roast them or something. And you go, it's not even funny.
David Spade
Drunk. And I was playing Earth, Wind and Fire was supposed I was opening for them. The CEO got drunk. I was. The CEO got drunk. It went on for like two hours. So I was getting paid a lot of money. They go, you can only do 15 minutes. But I went over a little bit and I guess Earth and Wind came out, but Fire wouldn't. That was a long way for that joke.
Zach Galifianakis
That's a good joke.
Dana Carvey
I don't mind it.
Zach Galifianakis
Did you really open for them?
David Spade
I did open for them. I open for a lot of people. Tower of Power, Todd Rundren, you know.
Zach Galifianakis
I opened Robert Palmer. Really?
David Spade
I bombed every time.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Jesus Christ.
David Spade
Your hero will be on in a second. Before first Dana Garfield. They must have ruined your name when.
Zach Galifianakis
You first saw my Everybody. I mean, how would they say it? Well, they just tried to make it sound somewhat ethnic and they're like, give it up for Baklava. Rodriguez was. But in high school I was Zach Gallifagodakis, which is.
David Spade
That hurts.
Dana Carvey
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David Spade
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
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David Spade
Absolutely.
Dana Carvey
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David Spade
Who does?
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Dana Carvey
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David Spade
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Zach Galifianakis
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Dana Carvey
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Dana Carvey
The first ferns I saw. These ferns are like tall pine trees by now. But when I saw the first one, I didn't know what it was. Someone just sent it to me and. Or said, look at this. And so I thought it was a real interview. And then it was Natalie Portman, who I love. And so I was, of course, in a jealous rage immediately. And then. And then you were saying some of your. You had great jokes and that I won't repeat them because I'm not good at that. But. But you said so many jokes, and it was so. And for her to play along, and I thought it was real for a while, and then I go, jesus, this is so weird. And then it took me a while to figure it out. Too long. And then. Then. So I started going, oh, this is great. And then when you would do them, you obviously didn't overdo it. You didn't do too many. They weren't super long. It was just a great, great bit that lives out there on the Internet, which everyone should see. I don't know where I'm going with this day. And jump in.
David Spade
Would you like to say anything in your defense, Zach?
Zach Galifianakis
Well, I mean, speaking of that, when we shot it, that. When we shot in a garage, and I think we shot that one in a garage right around here, right in Hollywood somewhere. And the. The thing about that one is there's a line in it, not to be vulgar, but it's something about, did you shave your.
Dana Carvey
Okay, you said she was in V for vendetta.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah. And then there's a punchline. Did you shave your V for vagina or something?
Dana Carvey
That one caught me off guard.
David Spade
To Natalie Portman. In a garage.
Dana Carvey
Yes, In a garage.
David Spade
In a garage with loose turtles about.
Zach Galifianakis
By the way, I barely understand that joke.
Dana Carvey
Like, I mean, I know.
Zach Galifianakis
I think I saw that movie. I don't know. But the fact that I think it's. The fact that I'm asking it.
David Spade
Yes.
Zach Galifianakis
So anyway, if I remember correctly, she was quite good with the whole thing. And then we sent it to her just to show it to her. And I had asked that joke to be left out of it. I said, can you edit that out? We'll send it to her. And her note was, where's that vagina joke?
Dana Carvey
Oh, really? Oh, I love it.
Zach Galifianakis
I don't know if that was the exact note. Where is the vagina joke.
Dana Carvey
Something like that.
Zach Galifianakis
Something along those lines.
Dana Carvey
By the way, there's a dog in.
David Spade
That on the hip meter.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, she's unreal. But did you. There's a dog that you keep cutting to, which is even funnier.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, that was. I think that was a real dog.
Dana Carvey
The dog rolls over his back, and then when something dies or it just sits there, then they cut over the dog, just. All right, it's all. It all works. And then I. Sean. Pen one. Sean looked very cool in that one, huh? Yeah, I'd be scared of that one. And then Sean Penkins.
David Spade
Yeah, I had a fight with him. I was in a dress at the time, but, you know, he said, hit me harder. He said, you can hit me harder. Yeah, there's no problem. So I hit him.
Zach Galifianakis
I would like to one day talk to him about the one we did.
David Spade
Because they bring it up because it was.
Zach Galifianakis
It was an interesting. It was an interesting day.
David Spade
Well, was. Was he truly upset or was.
Dana Carvey
He was very quiet.
Zach Galifianakis
He's a good actor, so he can. Or he's a good actor. And I. I think he may have been ready to deck me in real life. I. I don't know. Maybe he was doing a method thing. And I. I don't. So he's tricky.
David Spade
He held it so serious that you weren't sure if he was serious. He might have been kidding.
Zach Galifianakis
And. And. And I have worked with him. I mean, I. Not that I know him, but, you know, he has a good sense of humor. He really does. Yes. Huge laugher. And it loves to go see stand up. But in that moment, it was.
David Spade
I remember watching. Was it something you. Was it a line that you gave?
Dana Carvey
You said something. Because weren't you playing your brother or.
Zach Galifianakis
Something in that I was playing this overly over. Well, it's not really over top. There are people like this in the South. Really into him for the wrong reasons. Type person.
David Spade
Okay, and how does that guy talk?
Zach Galifianakis
Well, it's based on a character I used to do in high school called the. I think his name was of the effeminate racist. And.
David Spade
I remember that Skittles. Yeah, it's a great.
Zach Galifianakis
So it's just a guy that talks like this. And so friends of mine that were black in high school would bump me in the hallway. So I would. This character would be released, and I would say to them, my mom told me not to talk to black people, and they would go crazy, would die laughing because they understood at the time that I was mocking it all. You Know. So that's where that kind. That's where that came from. That was as simple as that.
Dana Carvey
Well, there was something, Dana, where he goes, sean, and he's doing this and he's sort of prodding. He goes, did you get into. I'd get into Hollywood just so you could go to all the parties and all the wrong reasons that Sean wouldn't want. Sean is very funny, unlike his Persona out there. And so I like that he's going along with it. But he was so serious. Then he goes, I could walk over there and knock you the fuck out right now. And even I was like, God damn. He gave that a good reading.
David Spade
I think he knew it was funny and interesting. I think he was playing good. I don't think he was offended.
Zach Galifianakis
I'd like to ask him. We haven't spoken since.
David Spade
I. His kids and my kids went to school together or at least played sports together up in Northern California. So I'll talk to Sean.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, ask him, Ask him.
David Spade
And I want to smoke. If you could smoke and not get diseases, I would definitely be smoking right now. There's nothing cooler, right? It's like, tell us some more, Zach. Anyway, can we go back to you as a young person then? Like, you, like you strike me as like an introverted extrovert. Like you're shy in a way. I think we are, maybe. Well, I think I am.
Dana Carvey
But. Yeah.
David Spade
Well, it doesn't matter anyway. But then you have this powerhouse thing that comes out. Like in high school, did you go to theater group or you just funny with friends or what were you like in grade school, high school? Just walking around.
Zach Galifianakis
Just walking around. Just walking around.
Dana Carvey
Just at the Beverly.
Zach Galifianakis
I mean, you know, I think I was somewhat quiet, but I think, I mean, humor in my family was seen in very high regard. So my cousins and my brother. My family is funny. I kind of watched them even as the quiet person I thought I was or I think I was. So I was kind of this more kind of observant kid that thought maybe one day I could, through my observations, maybe make a thing out of it.
David Spade
And you were thinking that like at age 8, 10, 12, I mean, but young, young. You got the idea maybe you would do this for.
Zach Galifianakis
This is going to sound weird, but it was at my parents conception of me.
David Spade
Doesn't sound weird at all. My brother Brad, I got three older brothers. He swears he remembers being born and he's serious.
Zach Galifianakis
Really?
David Spade
Yeah, he has a photographic memory. He just remembers being born. Yeah, I'm not kidding.
Dana Carvey
Brad, the guy funny Younger really pays off. And I think that's for all of us, like at dinner or at school. Like I was at a school that was. I was a little bit of a pipsqueak. Hard to believe. And always bullied and pushed around. But if you could, I would quietly say jokes to my friends or under my breath, but that kind of. If you get a little something. That's all I had. I wasn't super athletic. I wasn't this. So if you have some little hook like that, you go, ooh. My dad thought it was funny. You know, people think it's funny, and then you go. And then you try to. Maybe that's kind of like that for a lot of comedians.
David Spade
Well, the tall guys didn't have to do anything to get the girls.
Dana Carvey
We.
David Spade
On a bio. Evolutionary level, we had to be funny.
Dana Carvey
Zach, you're not that short.
Zach Galifianakis
I'm around six two.
Dana Carvey
Okay.
David Spade
That's a gigantic chair. It's an optical illusion. Same with me. I look like I'm a foot shorter than you. Look at this. Places.
Dana Carvey
No.
David Spade
Okay.
Dana Carvey
I like it up here.
David Spade
So, Zach, so you're theater. Did you go into that kind of stuff, or you're just like.
Zach Galifianakis
No, I just was not. I never did. I did public speaking competitions. I did that once.
Dana Carvey
How's that competition?
David Spade
I say a lot. It sounds good.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, my mom wrote the speech, and it was called you and I and tomorrow.
David Spade
Seriously?
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, that was the name of it.
David Spade
Really?
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah.
David Spade
Was it a public serv.
Zach Galifianakis
It was. I don't remember how.
Dana Carvey
You and I. We should do a remake.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, there was a speech contest in North Carolina locally, and then you could go to the state finals. And my brother and I were kind of into it, but never really. No theater. None of that. My mom tried to get me to go to the School of the Arts in. In North Carolina. She did urge me to go there. She knew that I had. I mean, she knew that I was eager to figure it out.
Dana Carvey
What's this school?
Zach Galifianakis
Yards School of the Arts in North. Is a really. A really good school in Winston Salem.
David Spade
So she really. She was your champion?
Dana Carvey
She bought in.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, my mom was. My mom would be like, he's quiet, but I swear he's funny. Like, I would hear her say that to my aunts and stuff.
David Spade
And did she want you to play piano? When did you learn to play piano?
Zach Galifianakis
All right, so I learned piano. I mean, I. I don't know how to play piano. It's. I'm. That's. That. I don't know how to read music. So I. I don't know why I was getting ready to tell you. Well, I learned piano. I don't know piano.
David Spade
You seem pretty good to me.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, I. I can. I can fake it, but for some reason only sad music comes out of me. Me. And it goes well with the jokes, you know.
Dana Carvey
Didn't you do a VH1 show? And I think you. Why do I think there's a piano at the beginning of that?
Zach Galifianakis
I. I did. I had a. I had a Talk show in VH1 years ago, and there was. The piano was involved during the monologue. And I think that's why I had the show, because I was like a musical act at the time.
Dana Carvey
Was it sort of variety where you could. Because you're not. You didn't want to just interview like Johnny Carson, like normal straight interviews, I'm sure. Right.
Zach Galifianakis
I was just trying to figure out the format had been beaten to death. And I just was trying to figure out, like, how can I do something different but interesting and sometimes funny. Funny was kind of last. But we, on that show, we would have. We would have it make it look like no one wanted to come to the show. So we would have one person in the studio audience, but we would have a laugh track of a six year old. So it was very bizarre. It was really a weird show.
David Spade
Can we find this somewhere?
Zach Galifianakis
I know most of those episodes are in my attic.
Dana Carvey
Can we find a six year old?
Zach Galifianakis
It's. I don't think. I don't think they're online. I don't know if they are.
Dana Carvey
I remember. What was it called? Do you remember?
Zach Galifianakis
It was called 60 Minutes.
Dana Carvey
Nope.
Zach Galifianakis
It was. It was called Late World.
Dana Carvey
Late World?
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah.
David Spade
How old are you when you do late world?
Zach Galifianakis
30. 30. 30. 30.
David Spade
So how long have you been.
Zach Galifianakis
I don't know how old I was. I was 35. Maybe.
David Spade
I need numbers. How long did you do stand up in clubs before you got that show?
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, I was still doing. And then that show failed and I went back to doing open mics. So I had a Talk show on VH1. And as soon as it ended, I was like, well, back to the old. So I just went back to the coffee houses.
David Spade
And you weren't really making a living then at standup or just a little bit?
Zach Galifianakis
There was a time where I could go on the road and, you know, do make a living. And I was. Before I was. I was making a living for a while. On the road? Yeah.
David Spade
And you had an hour.
Zach Galifianakis
Of. I had an hour of. Sometimes the material was a Little bit too bizarre sometimes. And there was some alienation. I mean, it was funny when you were telling me about. I opened for this Sugar Hill Gang.
Dana Carvey
Once, and I said, a hip hop, hippie.
Zach Galifianakis
And I remember getting kicked off stage because I made fun of the Bible and I didn't realize I was performing at a Bible school, like. And this is how they kicked me off. The woman just came up to the stage.
David Spade
She goes.
Zach Galifianakis
So, yeah, those. I mean, yeah, all those shows, all those.
David Spade
Did you have a Southern accent when you were. And you got rid of it, or did you actually have a little bit of a Southern accent?
Zach Galifianakis
No. I mean, I'm going home in a couple days and it'll just go back. It just turns back on. It's just as a. It's an easier way to.
David Spade
It's North Carolinian. I mean, what is that? Well, it's not Mississippi.
Zach Galifianakis
It's not Mississippi. No, it's like Appalachia, North Carolina. Appalachia. And a lot of people speak through their nose there. And it's like, how are you? But if you go east in North Carolina, it's very breathy and it's really beautiful and it sounds nice, but. So there's all kinds of different accents that you must pay attention to.
David Spade
What did you think of Daniel Craig's accent in Knives Out? Well, I thought it was kind of cool.
Zach Galifianakis
I always find Hollywood always does the Gone with the Wind. I declare, I have never seen such a. You know.
David Spade
Well, I think we are. We have a occasion.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah.
David Spade
I think we got a mural case.
Dana Carvey
It's a little foghorn. Yeah.
David Spade
But I thought. I thought it was great. I mean, he is. He's pretty. He's a cool.
Dana Carvey
It just has to be funny or sound weird. Yeah.
David Spade
Entertaining. But you. You can go through all the Southern accents.
Zach Galifianakis
I'm pretty. I'm pretty good with knowing where in the south someone might be from. I'm pretty good at it. Okay.
Dana Carvey
I did a movie.
David Spade
I talk like this. Where am I from? You don't seem to know where I'm from.
Dana Carvey
You don't know. He doesn't know.
David Spade
You don't know where I'm from, Boy. I had a friend. I have a friend from Mississippi. He kind of talks like this. I'm from Columbia Falls, Mississippi. Sound just like Elmer Powell.
Zach Galifianakis
That's right.
David Spade
Grew up. And he's a real sincere feller. These snaky fellers trying to get your money. Dana, These are direct quotes. He'll be thrilled. He got laughs.
Dana Carvey
But, Dana, I did a movie where I was playing they go, you're gonna play New Hampshire accent.
David Spade
So first of all, okay, that's a tough one.
Dana Carvey
I feel I smell an Oscar immediately. So I say, I'll go. They go, go to a dialect coach. So I go to a dialect coach. I'm like doing it. And they go, that's a little more Boston. I took two lessons, right, for the whole movie. And I'm like, listen, guy. And they're like, that's morning. And I go, I pulled her aside. I go, here's the deal. My audience is four to eight year olds, all right? I just have to sound funny, all right? They're not gonna go in there with a microscope. They go, oh, he sounds. If I just don't sound like Joe Dirt in one movie, they'll be happy. All right? They'll go, oh, that one's different. So.
David Spade
So it was a kids movie and they're trying to get you to do.
Dana Carvey
They're not supposed to be kids movies. They turn into it.
David Spade
Because that's cuz you're the star of it.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, because all my movies are on tbs cuz it's the Grown Ups channel and it's just a rotation of every movie.
David Spade
I could have helped you. Do you remember those Petridge Farm commercials?
Dana Carvey
Petridge Fam.
David Spade
Petridge Farm. Flaky and delicious. That's the only way I could do New Hampshire.
Dana Carvey
Is that New Hampshire, isn't it? Or didn't recognize it? No.
David Spade
Petridge Farm coming. Different blueberry strawberry flavors.
Dana Carvey
He's the expert over here.
Zach Galifianakis
I don't know.
David Spade
Again, Zach, I'm me. What do they sound like?
Dana Carvey
I'm playing Durham. Durham? Is that a city?
Zach Galifianakis
That's a city. That's where Duke University.
Dana Carvey
And I'm excited of playing that, but any trouble should I worry about?
Zach Galifianakis
That's where my dad's from. That's where he's.
Dana Carvey
I don't have any comps left, but yeah, normally it would be easy. I'll get him now. I'm excited to go there city.
Zach Galifianakis
It's a good city.
David Spade
I love the South.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, I do too.
David Spade
I miss Carolinas.
Dana Carvey
I was gonna ask Zach something else. Oh, you were in the. What's. How far did you get in the scouts? I heard you were in the scouts.
Zach Galifianakis
I was an Eagle scout.
Dana Carvey
Is that the complimentary molestation? Where's my notes? Where do my notes go? Oh, here they are. Here they are. I'm kidding, Zach. We're taking that out.
Zach Galifianakis
No, no, that's fine.
David Spade
That out or we're putting on a loop for promotion.
Dana Carvey
Zach's, like that was actually written down. I'm walking out of here. Oh, well, let's ask him about.
David Spade
What do you want to ask him? I wanna.
Dana Carvey
Well, we could talk about the Hangover. You were in the Hangover. This is like, this is like, this.
David Spade
Is like the theater Hangover was like.
Dana Carvey
You were in the Hangover.
David Spade
And then everyone that calls applaud.
Dana Carvey
God damn. They don't know. They don't.
David Spade
Hangover. Of the last 20 years, the two that got me the hardest as comedies because I don't really. I see all the strings. Hangover and Tropic Thunder, those are the two that caught me flat footed. And you were in which one?
Zach Galifianakis
I was in. Sorry, I was in the Hangout. Yeah.
David Spade
So you go from comedian's comedian. People know you, you're going along, you've done a special live Purple onion stand up special. And then Todd Phillips calls and you go on. What happens next?
Dana Carvey
Are you the first choice for that or do you know? Do you remember? It's a real question. I mean, listen, I've been a fallout on every movie I've ever done. Oh my God, I don't know. That's not a mean question. That's just like sometimes the movies come together and they go, we got this one would be a good accent. Obviously Zach's great. It's a funny part to play and they let you do it. Seems like Todd, who seems like a really funny, cool guy, let you do what you do and.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, I think he, I think he was doing. I think he was going to stand up clubs. I think that's what he had told me and then that's where he knew me from because I don't know if I'd done much otherwise to be seen on, on screen, but. So he asked me to audition. I think I was living in Canada and I, I just, I've been terrible. I just don't like to audition. I'm. It's, I'm. I've always been bad at it. I usually make, I usually get. I mean I was just. I have so many stories about. We all do.
David Spade
But could you tell us one of a really.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, I mean, I don't want to, but there's just so many, you know, I just was so not into the process of it. I mean the first time I ever got a laugh in an audition was when I first auditioned for a drama and they were laughing at me.
Dana Carvey
Well, sometimes the problem is if you're a comedian you read things and it, it feels sort of stiff because you're a bit quirky or character. And so when you're reading super flat lines that are just written for a generic comedy, they'll tweak them later if it's him or somebody. But as is.
Zach Galifianakis
It's.
Dana Carvey
It's sometimes for your personality, maybe it doesn't. It's not hilarious when you do it because it's so basic. But if you brought your stuff to it, then it's funny. So maybe he saw. If you could bring your weirdness to it, then it's great.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, I think also at that time, I was a bit older, and I think I was kind of not to be cavalier about it, but I think my attitude was, well, this is probably going to end soon, meaning this pursuit of whatever this is.
David Spade
Oh, I see.
Zach Galifianakis
I don't really care as much because I'll just kind of try to exit without caring if that makes any sense.
David Spade
Oh, wait a minute. So you were that. You get the hangover. You're thinking, this is pretty much a mic drop. I'm out of here.
Zach Galifianakis
No meaning, no, I'm not gonna get this. I'm not gonna get this. I will just. I think my mindset then was, you know, I tried doing show business, you know, at that time. I mean, you kind of beat yourself up sometimes, and I didn't really know what I was doing. And, I mean, who does? But anyway, I flew down from Canada and auditioned, and I think I remember leaving, getting into my stretch Hummer.
David Spade
So you were doing well and telling.
Dana Carvey
Sugar Ray to scoot over.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, God, I laugh. But I did a pilot with him 20 years ago. But then I. We got. You know, I got the job. And, you know, then you do the. You show up for work and you start acting in it, and you. I remember going to dinner with the other actors with Bradley, and I forget the other names.
David Spade
Ed Helms.
Zach Galifianakis
No, it's only Bradley. Who gives a shit about the other guys?
David Spade
Bradley Cooper.
Zach Galifianakis
Bradley and Ed, and I think Ken. And we were all at dinner, and I said to them, this movie seems good. I've never had this feeling before. So I felt there was a real kind of energy on set there that was. You know, sometimes that happens, and it's not. It doesn't translate to the screen. There's great energy on set, and everybody's like, oh, this is. And. But that one, Todd is a very good editor and a really good direct, very good director that knows how to steer that stuff.
Dana Carvey
Sure. You sort of need all the components, and you can lose it anywhere along the way. But if you do it. And you're doing, like, maybe you're doing extra takes where you're just trying different jokes and screwing around for. Plus, we all remember the Hangover wasn't a huge movie, and it was probably not a big budget. And no one. You're not going into it going, oh, I just got the Avengers. It's like, oh, I just got a comedy. It could go away. It could be nothing. But it turns. It blows up, obviously, into a huge thing. So it would be probably even scarier to audition for something if you know it's that big. Like, people that are auditioning for the sequel are like, holy shit, this is a huge movie.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, I had to audition for the sequel.
David Spade
You did. I had this guy in Hollywood.
Dana Carvey
Hollywood.
David Spade
That's. You're gonna read with Brad.
Dana Carvey
You were Cooper in this. That's great.
Zach Galifianakis
I had this guy come up to me once and he goes, hey, are you an actor? I go, yeah. He goes, are you the guy from Hangover 2? I don't even know how I answered. I think I just walked away. I didn't know what this.
Dana Carvey
Where's the baby now? You still stay in touch?
David Spade
Like Todd, he had a baby.
Dana Carvey
That sounds like Brody. Brody.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, my God.
Dana Carvey
Brody Stevens is a great comedian. Zach was very good friends. I was friends with. He toured me for a while at the very end and passed away. And, God, I was just thinking today because, you know, I knew you were close with Brody, and so I was clicking from your stuff because I don't. Honestly, I don't know who you are. And I was clicking from you. And then I'm jumping over to Brody's shit, trying to remember all his jokes. And I just saw a clip of him. Classic Brody. Not bombing, but getting so mad at the crowd. And the crowd's like, we didn't do anything. They're just not laughing that much, right? And he's going, arms crossed, negative. And he was doing all his jokes. I date. I'm dating a girl from Greece. The movie. She's 75, you know. You know how many I was trying to think of all these jokes he has, Dana, I don't know if you knew him. And everyone. We'd stand in the back and laugh.
Zach Galifianakis
I. That Talk show on VH1 I was talking about earlier, he was the warm up guy. And I would, like, peek behind the curtain to see what was going on. And Brody just would be going, whopper or Big Mac. You make the call.
David Spade
That's actually probably pretty good. I mean, for a warm up guy. Just energy Right.
Dana Carvey
You know what? He did it on our lights out show, and he and I peeked my head at the same thing, and they go, hey, something's going on out there. And he says, you're negative. You're negative. You don't deserve David Spade. He was in Police Academy 4. He's from Michigan, and he's not coming out until I give the green light. And I'm going, what is. Why is he yelling at the crowd? There's. The crowd is like nine people, you know, and. But he had so many goddamn fucking friends.
Zach Galifianakis
One of my favorite moments with him. God, it's early on, and we were hanging out. We were. My apartment in Santa Monica and Margaret Cho was on television. And we're just watching in silence. I don't mean it like that, but we're just watching it. And after a couple minutes, Brody just yells at the tv, not trying to be funny. She had a sitcom. Why come me don't have one.
David Spade
Why come me?
Zach Galifianakis
Why come me don't have one. He answered his own question.
David Spade
Yeah.
Dana Carvey
He goes, he goes, I'm doing pretty well in show business. I, it, I, I finally, I'm finally able to take my mom out to lunch and pay for. How is that it? I'm a professional mangler. One more. I, I am not a member of the Mile High Club, but I did masturbate on the Ferris wheel at the Pomona County Fair. So many jokes. He was so funny. But I'm saying him because he was in. I think you put him in one, one or two then. Because he goes, you know me. I'm the guy from Hangover. Hangover 2. Due date cut out of funny people.
Zach Galifianakis
Yes.
Dana Carvey
Yep.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, he. Yeah, I think, well, Todd, Todd saw Brody. Todd Phillips saw Brody while I was doing shows at the old Largo. So that's why Brody's in those movies. I didn't have anything to do with it. If I had something to do with it, he wouldn't have been in any of them.
Dana Carvey
Todd's got a good eye, though.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, but I miss him so much. I was missing him so much. David, I may have told you this the other day, but there wasn't a podcast, so I'll say it again, but I was missing this guy. We're talking about Brody, and he was known for alienating audiences. That was one of the reason, I think comics like Charms, perversely, is we would all rush out to see him, turn audiences away.
David Spade
We had a few of those in.
Zach Galifianakis
San Francisco and he's bombing in Montreal. Who used to have this baseball team and blah, blah, blah. And Brody just looks out at the audience while he's bombing and he yells out, no wonder the Expos left.
Dana Carvey
He was a pitcher at ASU, I think. And he goes, I threw 88 with movement. He would say that in the middle of his act, too. A very funny guy. I don't, I won't read all his jokes. So hangover worked out for you? Is that the end of that story?
David Spade
Yeah. Did you, when you that. So this is the first time you're getting actual extra, extra money. Did you buy a roll or anything? I mean, what did you, did you do anything with. What was that like when you first had extra, extra money?
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, I bought four elephants.
Dana Carvey
Smart.
Zach Galifianakis
No, I, I, I mean, I bought, I went, I bought a place. I bought a place in North Carolina. A farm. I'm not a farm, but a place to try to be a farmer.
Dana Carvey
Nickel.
Zach Galifianakis
But I don't live there anymore. But, yeah, I got that. And then I.
Dana Carvey
You went home and bought them all just to show off?
Zach Galifianakis
I, I, I don't remember. I, I got a lot of fur coats for all my aunts.
David Spade
Did you?
Zach Galifianakis
Everybody gets a fur coat.
David Spade
Did you, you like to farm, right?
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, I, I mean, my fantasy is to be a farmer one day, but I, I, look, it's, that's hard work. It's like to, for some entertainment guy to say that is kind of. But that's what I, I feel like. If not, not farm. It's more gardening, to be honest.
David Spade
Okay.
Zach Galifianakis
But I have a tractor. I have a tractor. I'm getting.
David Spade
You drive it around?
Zach Galifianakis
No, Dana, it's for my insta.
David Spade
But gardening.
Dana Carvey
I like to work with my hands. I masturbate. Ladies and gentlemen, I. You got it. That's Brody again. Oh, yeah.
David Spade
He goes.
Dana Carvey
I did. I've been doing porno. I do a one man scene on a yoga mat in Chatsworth. I don't know. Let's talk about Baskets. Baskets was a great show.
David Spade
Baskets.
Dana Carvey
I don't have to tell this crowd. You don't have to tell this crowd, Jack. They know Baskets. That's it.
David Spade
You only do cool stuff. Seems to me I've done a lot of.
Dana Carvey
You do a lot of cool stuff.
David Spade
Do cool stuff.
Dana Carvey
It seems like you do it on your own terms. Like, they let you do your thing, which isn't always the case with everyone. And it's sort of the dream for any comedian. Like, let me just do my own thing. Like, Curb is always an example of, like, that would be fun to do something like that. Where you could just do your own thing. And. And it's very, very hard to do those things. I mean, people look at it and go, that's such a great show. Or baskets. But to write it, cast it well, make it make sense, all that stuff is exhausting.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of thought that goes into it. And sometimes you get lucky, and most of the time you get unlucky, but sometimes you get lucky with things kind of come to place. I mean, I think that show, if I could bore you with it a bit, is. We were just trying to be. I had not seen regular people on television portrayed without. I just wanted to ground a comedy.
Dana Carvey
So it could be emotional with.
Zach Galifianakis
Not this. I wanted it to be dusty, and I wanted it to be more real than I have seen, especially the comedy world. And I asked Jon Kreisel, the director of. Can you. Can you figure out this dusty world I'm trying to tell you about in this rodeo clown world? So we did our research a little bit and started casting and writing it. And, yeah, it's a show. It was so fun to work on. And. Yeah, it was a lot of fun and a lot of work. I was just thinking about Louis Anderson when I was talking about it, and I just heard he died today. You know, he would have fucking laughed. Yes.
David Spade
Oh, he would have laughed.
Dana Carvey
Every comedian laughs at any joke by that, you know.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, my God. He was the he. Louis was.
David Spade
When did that strike you? When did you figure that out? I'm gonna have Louis play my mom.
Zach Galifianakis
Louis C.K. and I were talking.
David Spade
All the Louis.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, there were two Louis in this.
David Spade
Louis C.K.
Zach Galifianakis
Louis C.K. and I were talking about the mother to cast the mother. And he was asking me what I was thinking about, and I said, well, oh, I'd already called this British actress named Brenda Blethen, who I really, really like. But for some reason, that didn't work out and. Or she didn't get the email. That's what I. There was just. No, she didn't get the email. So I was telling Louis I was kind of imitating the voice. This is a story I've told many times, but. And I was doing the voice and he looked at me and he goes, like, Louie Anderson's voice. And I said, yeah. And Louis goes, should we call him? And I went, yeah. And that was it. There was this weird. Louis had. And I didn't know this, but he had been channeling his mom on stage for a long time. And that was kind of a luck. That was the Lucky part about it. But I had always loved him. I loved his vulnerability, even in his standard. If you can observe these kind of things, it's fun to kind of try to figure out. And I thought, he can do it, but I don't want it drag.
Dana Carvey
Right.
David Spade
It has to be real.
Zach Galifianakis
The first day they put a lot of makeup on him and I said, can we get some of that off? He's the part, so just know we put some wonderful costumes on him and the makeup was wonderful. And Louis is, you know, I think when you come from such a background like he did, I think his tenderness came from pain on cue.
Dana Carvey
Jesus.
Zach Galifianakis
I told my manager, like, if I say something cool, someone really make sure you beep something. If I get choked up talking about Louie, beep it. So it breaks up the ice.
David Spade
This is a good audience.
Zach Galifianakis
But no, I think Louis had this thing in him that was really. Could throw it out.
David Spade
Heartbreaking pathos in his stand up and a brilliant stand up and storyteller.
Zach Galifianakis
But on set, I would die. Laugh at work.
David Spade
He was funny every second.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, my God.
David Spade
Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
God, he just made. He just was so great, you know.
Dana Carvey
I don't know, you probably knew Louis. I, when I first got to town, I was 20. I was 20. This is at least eight years ago. I was so I don't know where I. I saw Louis somewhere and I didn't know him. I mean, I was in the hallway at the Improv, but he was nice and. And I was trying to audition at the Improv or the Comedy Store. Those are the big ones to get in. And I was 20 and I had okay, act. I had about, you know, eight minutes. And so he says, why don't you audition for Mitzi? And I go, oh, I don't even know how to do that. And he said, I'll bring you down. So I went down there, met him. He went and told Mitzi on like their audition night. And I went in the Comedy Store right here, did my set, did okay. Came out in the sidewalk on Sunset and just stood there and he came out and he goes, she didn't like you. I go, oh.
David Spade
It'S tough, man. I auditioned there once and then you have to go see Mitzi.
Dana Carvey
Did you go over to her table? No, he, he was a middleman, ushered you out. He spared me watching her go. I'm sure she would have been rougher about it. He was like, yeah, I auditioned and.
David Spade
She said to me, get some poppets.
Dana Carvey
It's not bad advice.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, I, I auditioned for, for her and nothing.
David Spade
Nothing happened. You got here in the main room next night.
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David Spade
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Dana Carvey
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David Spade
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Dana Carvey
Oh, wait, snl. We had to ask about snl, remember?
David Spade
Okay.
Dana Carvey
God damn, Danny, you forgot I watched.
David Spade
Both your monologues today. Ah, I'd seen them before. I had a big day. I'm telling you, I've been researching for 11 hours. No, I. Saturday Night Live 2010. 2011. Hosting both times. Yeah, and someone today mentioned you and Kenan Thompson's what's. What's. What's up with that?
Dana Carvey
What's up with that?
David Spade
And you came out this guy with this long flute in this weird jumpsuit. Yeah, and it's very double sided. Yeah. Does it. Guys, remember Extreme flute Yeah, you just came. It had no lines. You just came out, played and prayed. Yeah, but it was something very indelible about that.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, I. I remember that it was. I still have the. I have the jumpsuit. It's in my closet. I. I usually don't keep any of that stuff, but I. That I have. It's quite. It's comfortable. I wear. I wear it a lot in Canada while I'm chopping wood. But, yeah, that's a. That was a flute. They. I remember they had like a double thing guitar. And I was like, I don't know. That seems like, is there a. Can you build a flute where the guy does this? And. Yeah, they did. That's the great thing about that show is you, like. It's like, can you maybe get a prop like this? They're like, yeah, sure, sure.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, they can do anything within 24 hours. Yeah, yeah. And you did. I read one. Maybe you were brought in as a guest writer some of the days that there was a Britney Spears sketch that you pitched an idea with you and Will Ferrell.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah.
David Spade
Ten years before you were brought in as a guest writer or something.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, I thought I was brought in as a cast member.
David Spade
They never tell you what you brought in.
Zach Galifianakis
No, I couldn't figure it out. There was a weekend I was like, oh, I don't. They. I guess I'm writing. So I wrote. Looking back, I feel really bad about it, but not that it was a. There were two sketches that I pitched to her, and it was just she and I in this office alone.
David Spade
And Britney Spears.
Zach Galifianakis
The first sketch was Will Ferrell. We were going to shrink him down to be the bodyguard to her belly button.
Dana Carvey
You love it. Love it, right?
David Spade
That sounds great. That sounds funny.
Zach Galifianakis
And I. So that was basically what I said to her. I remember a tumbleweed going through the.
David Spade
Conversation.
Zach Galifianakis
On my back. I mean, it's not her fault. And then I thought at the time, because she was so kind of pop culture pop, sugary. I said, look, I think it would be funny if you were to do a straight interview with something like Entertainment. But tonight, and you're just answering these banal questions and you happen to be bleeding from the mouth.
Dana Carvey
I like that. I like it, too. This sounds like a Monday.
Zach Galifianakis
I just remember she looked at me and then I remember looking at the ground and the ground and I remember looking back up and we made eye contact and she goes, yeah, that's funny. Ah, she was nice about it.
Dana Carvey
She seems very.
Zach Galifianakis
She was very nice about it. And that's a Funny.
Dana Carvey
It could have been a great shoot.
David Spade
For her because of blood coming down and trying to.
Zach Galifianakis
I don't know, I thought maybe it would be kind of a fun thing, but, you know, it didn't work. It didn't work for her, Zach.
David Spade
Pop stars shouldn't really bleed on her. Rule number five, 40. So your monologue, I mean, this.
Zach Galifianakis
The.
David Spade
The second one where you stripped your clothes off, you had a little red jumpsuit on, and then you had a board with letters on it, like.
Dana Carvey
Well, I.
Zach Galifianakis
No, no, it's fine. Well, it's something I had been doing in my standup. I mean, in my late 30s, I was going around the country with the board. With the board in a Little Orphan Annie dress and glitter.
David Spade
You dress too?
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, yeah, I have.
David Spade
Oh, that was in your club act.
Zach Galifianakis
Oh, well, we would. My. I would. At this time, I was kind of doing bigger.
David Spade
Your club act. Bigger Club act, kid. You got your club act in your.
Zach Galifianakis
I was doing Uncle Tampons Comedy Cave in Tampa. No, I. I was doing, you know, shows. And so I had that one under.
David Spade
It was a thing that.
Zach Galifianakis
It was something I like doing. And I was trying to be absurdist and somewhat political at the same time back then. And sometimes, you know, the only way I felt like I could pull that off or at least to have a message or two was to do something very weird. And there were a couple of political jokes buried in that. And then I would change it from time to time. And I actually got. Someone tried to sue me because of what was on those flip charts years ago.
David Spade
Really?
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah. So I. It. So I would perform as Little Orphan Annie and close out shows. And by the time I was ready to do Saturday Night Live, I was. I mean, I think it was 39. Dressed as little Orphan Annie, you know, around the country. Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Like. But this bit is pop out.
Zach Galifianakis
Yes. Dancing in a very, like, you know, much too old to be doing that.
David Spade
That was the.
Dana Carvey
But they're like, John Ham did this last week.
David Spade
You're like, what?
Dana Carvey
I've been sitting on this.
David Spade
I don't even know you.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, that's. Yeah, I remember that bit. Yeah. God, Jesus, it haunts me.
David Spade
Do you remember the first time you met Lauren Michaels? Doesn't have to. Any thoughts about him?
Zach Galifianakis
No, I don't remember the first time. I mean. No, I do remember. In his office. Yeah, in his office. When, you know, when you host, you go and you go into that awkward meeting thing.
Dana Carvey
That is very fun week. You're excited.
David Spade
You're coming off that hangover heat.
Dana Carvey
Everyone loves you.
David Spade
The minute you're hot, you feel yourself getting less hot. Lauren has a lot of.
Dana Carvey
When you know you're hot, you're cold. Anyway, let's bring everyone in. They bring everyone in and then they pitch all the ideas.
Zach Galifianakis
And Zach, popcorn, right?
David Spade
Yeah, he has popcorn all day long. Salted. It's unsalted, isn't it?
Dana Carvey
Butter.
David Spade
Butter. I've always liked butter. He's an interesting person.
Dana Carvey
Jiffy Pop.
Zach Galifianakis
He never talks about it.
Dana Carvey
I don't think he knows I'm doing one. It's so bad. But Dana's.
David Spade
He. He asked me once on an airplane. I've been doing it for years behind the scenes, but was too embarrassed to do it in front of him. So he asked me, he said, like, you know, when you do me, like, what do you do? You know?
Zach Galifianakis
Right.
David Spade
And I balked at that moment, you know. But years later, I was at a restaurant in with Lauren and his two assistants and Rob Lowe in Santa Monica. And he said, you know, do it for me. So I started to do it and I said it was just him at the board on the Wednesday night, picking the show. And he would get mad. He'd go, I still have no fucking first act. And then he'd go into the bathroom. And coincidentally, this is a true story. So he's doing that and then he tells me to tell the Paul McCartney story when I met him at Lorne Michael's house. So I'm doing Paul like this and going on and on like that. Lauren's looking up and going, could be. Yes, yes. And I did an impressionist tap out. And it's Paul, and I'm going.
Dana Carvey
Oh, Paul was behind you. And he knew he was coming in.
David Spade
I had it. I get tapped out. Once I had John Travolta, I was on stage in Denver and I'm. You know, these guys are going crazy like that. And then tap out. It's John Travolta. Yeah, it's an impressionist tap out. But anyway, Lauren, I think at this point gets it. Everyone does it. I think he's kind of likes it, I believe. Don't you think so?
Dana Carvey
It's compliment funny.
David Spade
We all love him. I mean, he's, he's. He's brilliant. The Lauren, his isms, his. His life, little things. Marriage is a prison everyone's trying to escape into.
Dana Carvey
That's a great one.
Zach Galifianakis
No, that's good.
David Spade
I mean, who. And he's got tons of those. He talked about funny people. Were we going to live? Are you going to be around funny People. Because there's, like, only 900 of us on the planet in any given time. And 900 was, like, the perfect number. Like, really, Is that about it? Like, 20 in Poland and, like, 18, and, you know, there's only 900 funny people on the planet.
Dana Carvey
Feels a little heavy for.
David Spade
But, Lauren, you. He's a little heavy.
Dana Carvey
Maybe, maybe, Maybe low teens.
David Spade
So you do the hangover, you're successful. You do baskets. You do Saturday night a lot.
Dana Carvey
This is a big summary.
David Spade
Big summary. I have some basic questions.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, go. Yeah, let's drill them.
David Spade
Hard questions. When you give to charity, is it for ego fulfillment or to help people?
Dana Carvey
It's a good one. Yeah.
Zach Galifianakis
I think. I think if you're. If people don't know that you've given, then you haven't given.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, finally.
Zach Galifianakis
Or at least that's the motto of this fucking town.
Dana Carvey
When I do the wire, I call the press people at the exact same time. I go, this wire's not going out without Yahoo News knowing. Let's put us all on one email.
David Spade
The best thing about being famous is.
Zach Galifianakis
Good table at Soup Plantation.
David Spade
My best feature is.
Zach Galifianakis
God.
Dana Carvey
Hangover.
Zach Galifianakis
Hangover. Did you say hangover?
Dana Carvey
Feature film.
David Spade
No, no. My best feature. Oh, I thought it was, like, looks.
Zach Galifianakis
That's what I. That's how I got it, as looks. Okay.
David Spade
Yes.
Zach Galifianakis
I, I, I, I, I have. Okay. I have good legs.
Dana Carvey
All right.
David Spade
Would you describe yourself as an empath or a narcissist?
Zach Galifianakis
There's no middle ground at all.
David Spade
I don't know.
Dana Carvey
I don't even know what you mean.
Zach Galifianakis
You know what an empath is? Not really, like, feel feelings.
Dana Carvey
Oh, I do. Okay. I'm that one.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah.
David Spade
You are so totally that one.
Dana Carvey
I am.
Zach Galifianakis
Can I tell you, David said that I was driving here tonight, and David, a few years ago, we. A bunch of people were in the. In the green room. Green room. Yeah. And the wait. And we were all just talking about stand up and when. Where we used to do it, how we. The old days. And David just goes, when I first started doing stand up as everybody leaves the room. And it makes me.
Dana Carvey
I saw people start to go.
Zach Galifianakis
It makes me laugh all the time. I think about it all the time.
Dana Carvey
Dude, he was here two weeks ago, and I talked to him for three minutes, and I laughed so hard. I go, I can't even talk to you anymore, because I knew we were doing this. And I go, God, he makes me laugh so fucking hard. And then I came over here. Cause you're one of my favorites. And I start to Watch you stand up. And I go, oh, no. And then I had to go after you. And everyone's like, ugh, that's not true.
Zach Galifianakis
That's weird because that's a, that's a different interpretation of how I felt after that show.
Dana Carvey
Oh, really?
Zach Galifianakis
You handed me my hat. Like, that was a tough set.
Dana Carvey
Well, I do that to get in your head. No, no, he's all right.
David Spade
It was.
Dana Carvey
He left his hat on stage, so I grabbed it and he was leaving and I went back and some Davy Crocker, it's like some. And I gave it to him and I was like, hey, fuck that crowd, man. That's good one. Then they go, huh?
David Spade
That's. That's the worst thing you can hear when you get on. Oh, that crowd that says you bump.
Zach Galifianakis
They don't get you.
David Spade
That's the worst.
Dana Carvey
Oh, God.
David Spade
God damn it.
Dana Carvey
Okay, well, let's let him wrap up. He's been good. He. He put in his hours.
David Spade
How?
Zach Galifianakis
Put in his hours how, How? What? So this is a podcast.
Dana Carvey
I don't know.
David Spade
We. We'll, we'll edit it.
Dana Carvey
We'll be six minutes.
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah, I mean, how, like, how. What, you, you sit through it and you edit it and.
David Spade
No, no, we don't edit anything.
Zach Galifianakis
How long are the. How long are they?
David Spade
Seven hours?
Dana Carvey
No, they're usually about an hour. Ish.
Zach Galifianakis
Okay.
Dana Carvey
So we just went over an hour 10.
Zach Galifianakis
Okay. Yeah.
Dana Carvey
Are you angling for more money?
Zach Galifianakis
Yeah.
David Spade
Are you amazed how disorganized and amateurish we are?
Zach Galifianakis
Well, I thought they would. I know. I, I actually, I. The fact that you guys and I saw you guys get these chairs out of your cars.
David Spade
We're on a budget. Flanny is tight.
Zach Galifianakis
So I was impressed with that. Very impressed.
Dana Carvey
Now I, I like it. I'm a little nervous talking to Zach. It's fun. It's great to see you. I don't see you much. Always fun to see you on stuff and it's great. And. No, we think you're. We.
David Spade
We butter our people up, but we're sincere. You know, you're. You're one of the, the Mount Rushmore all time comedians.
Dana Carvey
So funny.
David Spade
Of our generation.
Dana Carvey
Yeah, very interesting.
David Spade
Dude, I put, I, I draw a line between you and Will Ferrell. Only in the sense of the commitment. Because Will said no one will ever out commit me. Yeah, but you commit. No one can out commit you.
Zach Galifianakis
Well, Will is, Will is one of those guys. Jesus. That. The way he goes in and even does, like side bets when you're at work that he I can't. He was. He. That man is. I remember when we were working together at the time, it was the terrible. Yeah. The news was the terrible. Penn State. Yeah. And Will's a big sports fan and he was following that stuff. And I, at that time, I was working on getting the statue of who's Penn State's coach, Paterno. I wanted to put that in Will's yard.
Dana Carvey
I'm a big molester fan. I was following that.
David Spade
We're gonna. It's gonna be a very interesting podcast.
Dana Carvey
Okay.
David Spade
You're revealing yourself. That's good.
Dana Carvey
Okay.
David Spade
Supposed to be authentic.
Dana Carvey
I know. These are all just. I don't know where.
David Spade
Largo.
Dana Carvey
It doesn't matter. But. No, but thanks.
David Spade
Thanks, Zach.
Zach Galifianakis
Thanks, Nina. Thanks, David.
Dana Carvey
Zach, thank you very much. Thanks to the audience.
Zach Galifianakis
Thank you. Appreciate it.
Dana Carvey
Hey, guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click, follow on your favorite podcast app, give us review, five star rating and maybe even share an episode that you've loved with a friend.
David Spade
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Dana Carvey
Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey, an executive produced by Danny Carvey and David Spade, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman, Maddie Sprung, Kaiser and Leah Reese, Dennis of Odyssey, our senior producer, Greg.
David Spade
Holtzman, and the show is produced and edited by Phil Sweettech Booking by Cultivated Entertainment. Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kirk Courtney and Lauren Vieira.
Dana Carvey
Reach out with us. Any questions be asked and answered on the show? You can email us@flyonthewalldecy.com that's a U-A C-Y dot com.
Episode Date: October 1, 2025
Format: Live recording at Largo with audience
Main Theme: An in-depth and hilariously unpredictable conversation with Zach Galifianakis exploring comedic origins, iconic projects (notably "Between Two Ferns," "The Hangover," "Baskets," and SNL hosting), the craft of improv and risk-taking in comedy, and memories of beloved colleagues.
Dana Carvey and David Spade sit down with Zach Galifianakis for an hour-plus of offbeat banter, confessions, and stories that traverse the journey from eccentric open-mic nights to pop culture stardom. The episode offers a behind-the-curtain view of Zach’s most famous bits ("Between Two Ferns," "The Hangover," "Baskets"), insight into his process, and memories of late comedy friends. It’s full of candid, slyly dark, and absurd humor, offering both comedians’ reverence for and playful ribbing of each other.
The conversation is fast-paced, dryly absurd, and honest: the hosts needle and praise each other and Zach, oscillating between irreverence and genuine affection. Laughter punctuates even serious observations about loss and artistic struggle. Jokes about Hollywood, fame, growing up odd, and the business of comedy abound, underscored by moments of introspection.
Fans and newcomers alike will find the episode a rich panorama of comedic process and memory—equal parts offbeat, poignant, and dazzlingly funny.