REACTION - SNL’s Big Cast Shake-Up

Summary

Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade

Episode: REACTION – SNL’s Big Cast Shake-Up

Date: September 4, 2025
Theme:
This episode dives deep into the recent casting shake-up at Saturday Night Live (SNL), with former cast members Dana Carvey and David Spade reacting to the major cast changes, reminiscing about their own SNL experiences, and offering insights on the new and departing players. The conversation is peppered with the duo’s trademark banter, personal showbiz stories, and analysis of SNL’s ongoing evolution.

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Main Discussion Themes

The SNL Cast Shake-up: Overview

• Biggest changes: Multiple cast members departing, new talent coming in, and the dissolution of the Please Don’t Destroy trio as a creative unit.
• Three key headlines ([22:59]):
  1. “The people that they let go that are not coming back.” – Dana Carvey
  2. “The people that they hired.”
  3. “Please Don’t Destroy... So that was disbanded in a very bad... please don’t destroy.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Life as an SNL Cast Member

• High pressure cycles: Both hosts vividly recall the weekly grind and emotional rollercoaster for cast members whose material doesn’t make it past Wednesday’s read-through ([24:20]):

  • “You want to be part of it... then you just go, shit, I’m not really part of it this week.” – David Spade [24:24]
  • Cast members often start their next week’s writing early if their work is cut.

• Contrast between eras:

  • Earlier SNL seasons had leaner casts, where all members were in on most sketches. In recent years, the size has swelled, making it harder for everyone to shine.
  • "The first cast was maybe eight total... and that’s why they were all stars. They’re all in everything.” – David Spade [32:22]

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The Departures

Heidi Gardner, Devin Walker, Michael Longfellow, Rosebud Baker

• Surprise exits:

  • “Heidi Gardner… she’s got a likability… so I was surprised by that. She has finished a full eight seasons, which is right up there.” – Dana Carvey [31:40]
  • Heidi reportedly did not initiate her exit: “From what I know as of this recording, that it was not her idea to leave.” – Dana Carvey [31:19]
  • “8 is a lot. It’s… 8 is enough was a show.” – David Spade, riffing [32:09]

• Rosebud Baker:

  • Noted as feeling “waffly” about her place on the show.
  • “There’s a mental aspect of, like, can I take it another year?” – David Spade [24:20]

• The emotional toll:

  • “It can be emotionally violent, depending where you are in the show.” – Dana Carvey [26:22]

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Please Don’t Destroy Disbands

• Trio split:

  • “That got my attention the most… seemed to me they’re really popular.” – Dana Carvey [26:42]
  • John Higgins is out, Ben Marshall becomes a feature player, Martin Herlihy a writer.
  • The awkwardness: “Oh my God. So the one guy has to say, I’m gonna take this. I’m gonna be a cast member. How? It’s fucking awkward for sure, right?” – David Spade [29:27]
  • “It’s like the Three Dudes and they take Moe Howard, but then, you know, Shem doesn’t get anything.” – Dana Carvey [29:35]

• Nepotism & talent:

  • All three are “Nepo people,” but the hosts credit their chemistry and talent regardless.
  • “I never saw that one was above the other. I thought it was very… they had a lot of chemistry.” – Dana Carvey [28:33]

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Reflections on Cast Dynamics at SNL

• “It’s a sink or swim. It’s a hedge. You bet you. You go or you don’t go.” – Dana Carvey [33:14]
• “It reminds me of Hunger Games... just to cause trouble.” – David Spade [33:19]

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Celebrating Exiting Cast

• Michael Longfellow: “Really cool. Long fellow Arizona dude.”
• Emil (Michael): “An adorable person and funny…” – Dana Carvey [34:08]
• The pride of surviving at SNL: “I give them my props for being… Super likable. I was there for 10 freaking weeks.” – Dana Carvey [34:23]

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Spotlight on the New Cast Members

1. Veronica (full name not mentioned)

• Impressions:
  • “She does these goofy videos all the time… She will be play. She has characters.” – David Spade [35:01]
  • “Sherry O'Terry vibes… Kate McGinnie vibes.” – Dana Carvey [36:21]
  • “She sings, which also helps because if you can sing on that show, you’re in X more sketches.” – David Spade [36:27]

2. Cam Patterson

• Comedian’s style:
  • Stand-up clip included ([38:57]): classic, raw storytelling vibe—likened to “Eddie Murphy vibes.”
  • “He has a very likable vibe about him and a charismatic vibe.” – Dana Carvey [41:32]
  • Potential challenge: adapting his raw club act for the network censors.

3. Tony Brennan

• “Clean cut, good looking kid”—reminds the hosts of John Mulaney in style ([43:36]).

4. Improv performer (name uncertain)

• Demonstrates improvisational chops: “That’s the whole squad, I’m sure. And he’s probably from an improv background.” – David Spade [45:04]

5. Ben Marshall (from Please Don’t Destroy)

• Will be a feature player, previously known for filmed segments.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On the emotional landscape of SNL:

  • “Nothing likes killing on live television.” – Dana Carvey [26:39]
  • “Everyone at one point is an ex–SNL cast member or writer. You’re always going to be post-SNL way longer than you’re on SNL.” – Dana Carvey [30:55]

• On cast size and history:

  • “It was lean and mean. And now it’s chunky and fluffy.” – Dana Carvey [33:03]
  • “Chunky right now.” – David Spade [33:00]

• On how new cast members are chosen:

  • “For Lorne, does the cast… Will they be friends? Will there not be conflict? Will there be someone you want to have dinner with?” – Dana Carvey [46:25]

• On the trio break-up:

  • “It’s just weird… I’m trying to think of a trio. The Marx Brothers. We’re taking Groucho, but not Harpo. I’m not saying it’s that, but it is different.” – Dana Carvey [29:35]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• SNL shakeup – overview & speculation: [02:58–03:12], [22:51–23:55]
• Please Don’t Destroy break-up: [26:42–30:55]
• Reflections on being cut/ladder at SNL: [24:20–26:39], [30:55–33:14]
• Introducing new cast:
  • Veronica: [34:49–36:41]
  • Cam Patterson: [38:50–41:46]
  • Tony Brennan: [42:05–43:30]
  • Improv clip/unidentified performer: [44:00–45:12]
• Discussion of cast chemistry & selection: [46:03–46:54]
• SNL history – cast size and performance: [32:22–33:14]

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Tone and Style

• Banter-rich and irreverent: Hosts constantly riff, joke, and impersonate (from “Church Lady” jokes to Cary Grant voices with customer service).
• Deep empathy and insider insight: Both show respect for the emotional toll the SNL process takes and for the immense talent among both departing and incoming cast.
• Peppered with nostalgia: Recollections of their own time at SNL and the shifting face of the show.

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For Listeners: Takeaways

• This episode is a must-listen for SNL fans interested in the inside baseball of cast turnover, the unique pressures of producing live comedy at SNL, and what makes a performer survive—or thrive—at 30 Rock.
• The hosts offer a unique blend of humor and heart, mixing industry gossip with candid (sometimes painful) truths about comedy, success, and showbiz longevity.
• The SNL shake-up is framed not just as a list of names, but as a human, creative, and sometimes awkward process that both stirs up nostalgia and signals the ever-renewing nature of sketch comedy on TV.

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Memorable Sign-off:
“We’re just like you. We’re fans of the show… God bless all those people because… it’s a lot of… try to have fun. It never works to say that, but that’s the goal—when you’re out there, have inside your brain, be having fun if possible.” – Dana Carvey [49:05]

“People leaving are a little disoriented right now, but it will all be… it all works out well.” – David Spade [49:33]

Transcript

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[David Spade]

All right, Dana, it's David Spade and and friends. Welcome to an episode.

[Dana Carvey]

Thank you. Thanks. I'm happy to be your guest.

[David Spade]

Oh, I got a great story for you right off the bat.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay, but first, let's just say there's a lot of stuff going on at our our alma mater. A lot of stuff, a lot of cash Changes going. Some personal things out there. People we know what's going on. So we're going to go over that comprehensively piece by piece, piece by piece. And it's going to be a. A barn burn. But first we're going to do a little catch up because I haven't. I haven't seen him in eight hours. We had breakfast.

[David Spade]

The SNL stuff. Lots of rumor, lots of innuendo.

[Dana Carvey]

Intrigue Palace Intrigue. Who comes, who goes. Why?

[David Spade]

Why?

[Dana Carvey]

Who?

[David Spade]

What, where?

[Dana Carvey]

What do we do when the world asks why?

[David Spade]

Exactly.

[Dana Carvey]

You know that JFK during the Cuban crisis?

[David Spade]

Yeah. No.

[Dana Carvey]

Could have been Bobby Kennedy senior during the Cuban Missile crisis.

[David Spade]

But I was a Bobby Kennedy that said that.

[Dana Carvey]

I believe. I believe. What did we do when the world asks why. But it could have been Jack. Anyway, back to your weekend.

[David Spade]

You'll. You'll never guess who killed Bobby Kennedy in the kitchen at the Roosevelt.

[Dana Carvey]

No, I will never guess.

[David Spade]

See, your hands are hand, isn't it?

[Dana Carvey]

You're kidding. You're kidding.

[David Spade]

Is that his name? Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't even doing this joke. I was saying he was a busboy there and then I was going to promote Bus Boys.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, well, that's. That's a stretch.

[David Spade]

I know. I was really trying to link it together. God, my hair's getting long, dude.

[Dana Carvey]

I know. I don't know what's going on. I would have happened sidewalls. You got kind of a. You're turning into me. It's kind of.

[David Spade]

Well, start this with this. This is a hat from my gig I just did. It's black though. And it's white.

[Dana Carvey]

What does it say on it?

[David Spade]

I can't this Alaska. Do you know where Alaska.

[Dana Carvey]

Nebraska is a corn Husker. What's in Alaska?

[David Spade]

Alaska are the blubbers. The blubbers.

[Dana Carvey]

How that sounds?

[David Spade]

That's their NFL team.

[Dana Carvey]

I. I bought it hook line and the blubbers. The. It's.

[David Spade]

I had a gig up there.

[Dana Carvey]

It's the Keystone State. Or something to do with mining.

[David Spade]

Is it? Heather, see if Alaska is the Keystone State.

[Dana Carvey]

I don't know. It's that but it's something to do with.

[David Spade]

Heather jumps off Tik Tok quickly.

[Dana Carvey]

Her Tik Tok is rocking. Okay, go listen.

[David Spade]

So Dana, I have a gig up Pennsylvania. Oh, Pennsylvania is the.

[Dana Carvey]

I was close.

[David Spade]

What's Alaska though?

[Dana Carvey]

No, another Alaska is just the. The you know what the grizzly or something. Or something to do with the. Yeah. I could get on the tip of my brain.

[David Spade]

I think it's called the bring a coat State.

[Dana Carvey]

Is it really that cold? So why, I mean, while she works on this, why would anybody go to the trouble to play Alaska? Like, if I could beam to Alaska, I'd play it there tonight.

[David Spade]

Right? It's called fan interaction and the people matter to me.

[Dana Carvey]

Are you? Are you. I'm just gonna say this because you can't say it. Are you?

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Gigantic in Alaska. I mean, is that your. I will say, are you Shane Gillis in Alaska?

[David Spade]

Yeah. They're appreciative when you come up there because listen, the gig I did was a state based fair. These are things as a comedian, you know, that watch for these early warning signs. State fair equates to. I've done them kids. One problem with state fairs. Oh, Alaska is the last frontier.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay, that makes sense and it is true.

[David Spade]

So state fairs. I did one with Gary Shandling, Open Forum RIP that. One of the greats. We did it in Arizona, where I'm from. And it was one of those things where it was one of the events. So it was come one, come all. Everyone could trickle from the Corn Dog hut into there from Indian fry bread, from the Tilta Whirl. They all go in all the stuff. And so it was kids all ages. And I was like, eesh. But it was probably 3,000 people. I proceeded to bomb, unsurprisingly, but Gary did pretty well. But he's pretty clean, I think. Remember, you gotta clean it up a bit.

[Dana Carvey]

Innuendo, but clean. Yeah, yeah.

[David Spade]

So this is. You would have killed.

[Dana Carvey]

Yes. And.

[David Spade]

But state fair, I thought special. It was intriguing because it's a state fair. But then they said it's three in the afternoon. I go on now, it stays light till about midnight, right. And I didn't know it was outdoors. I didn't really think of that part. So it's very challenging. I kind of liked the challenge of this is a lot. So when I get there about a week ahead, I put it on my weather on my apps and it says where I'm performing is 70% chance of rain. I was like, oh, I forgot about rain. So anyway, long story longer. I go, you have to go through.

[Dana Carvey]

Seattle layover, not direct, huh?

[David Spade]

And you know what I hate to say an unnamed. This happens to all airline. I just want a TV to veg out, just kill time, right? They say, oh, this, this flight has TVs. I said, thank God. I get there, it hits me. There's no TVs. And I go, where's the TV? And they go, it's on your phone, silly.

[Dana Carvey]

So they announced that they had TVs. Yeah. They meant it was because you were carrying a portable tv, I. E. Your own. I think that's false advertising. I'm bullshit on that. What's the. The airline. Let's get sued or sue.

[David Spade]

It's also called being rat. So I don't want to. I don't want to look and download 18 apps and then get on wi. It's just too much. So it's like taking a date and you go to a drive in theater. And she goes, where's the screen? I go, it's on your phone. You thought it. Why would you think it's there at the drive in on the screen?

[Dana Carvey]

That's driving theater with a big screen. What era did you come from? When were you.

[David Spade]

If you want to hold it out.

[Dana Carvey]

Like this, we go to a field and we look at our cuddle up.

[David Spade]

And watch Tick tock.

[Dana Carvey]

Cuddle up. There's some marshmallows, maybe a thing. And you go home.

[David Spade]

All right. Hat's coming off. Because people got to see the scary hair. So that happened.

[Dana Carvey]

Anyway, question for you.

[David Spade]

Also, they have. Go ahead.

[Dana Carvey]

Ambient sound. So when you're on there outdoor, there's a thunderstorm. Because when I did one for a second, I heard a country western band kick in to the point where the whole amphitheater I was in outdoors could hear them playing.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

So I'm doing my acting. Then the rodeo across the way. It was huge. And Billy Knockno now is on this thousand pound bullet. So all this ambient noise, and I'm going, wasn't that special? Not.

[David Spade]

God, you're trying to be louder.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I just. I just broke down the show and go. Started singing with the band or pretending. But did you have ambient sound? Was sound.

[David Spade]

Well, I had Bobby and Dan Levy with me, and we.

[Dana Carvey]

You're like, that's incredible. You have two hours.

[David Spade]

Well, because. And I have to do an hour. But they. When I. Before I left, I said, hey, Alex manager, this feels like a clean show. Right. That's a little harder. So I got to go through everything. And really? He said, no. They said, no restrictions. I go, are you sure? Because kids are at the. So anyway, we go there. I go over to the petting zoo. They have a little petting farm. Pet the goats and snow cone. Now I got a reindeer dog. And it started to back up on me. About two hours later, I go, I think Christmas came early.

[Dana Carvey]

A corn dog is called a raindog. Is that it from. Is. That's a corn dog.

[David Spade]

Reindeer dog.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh.

[David Spade]

Because by the way up there, they're like, you should have a bison burger. The reindeer skewers. I'm like, I don't know. I'm not here to experiment.

[Dana Carvey]

I think you go on kind of a state fair tour because obviously you took to it and you crushed, you.

[David Spade]

Know, I wound up. When Bobby went on, it was so sunny. We weren't worried about the rain. He had to wear sunglasses because the sun was setting. And Jim Gaffigan had did this gig and he said he had to wear sunglasses, and so I guess they understand it. And then when Dan went on, it was getting cloudy, so he was okay. When I went on, the first thing I said, I went up and then someone put on their poncho. And I go, look at this guy put on their poncho. It's not even raining. And they all go, it is raining. I was like, oh, it started raining. Joke 1.

[Dana Carvey]

So the audience is getting wet, but you have a thing on top here, like a pavilion, and they're all getting. It's getting into one of the worst. I did Laughlin, Nevada, at same thing with the Raking Light with like 40 people in a 2,000 seat amphitheater with Chris Kattan and Tim Meadows.

[David Spade]

What's a raking light mean?

[Dana Carvey]

Raking, like, right in your eyes. Like the sun was trying to go down. It was like, just blinding.

[David Spade]

So, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Well, I said. And it was raining on him. So I said. The guy backstage who runs it told me it might rain. I said, well, if it rains, they're going to start to leave. And he said, no, in Alaska, we're not a bunch of. And I said that in the crowd went, they loved it.

[Dana Carvey]

They loved it.

[David Spade]

Were they, by the way, not one person left. They got rained on. They didn't.

[Dana Carvey]

It's Alaska. That's what they. They're Alaska tough. They're tough. I like those people.

[David Spade]

So I had a good time. The only last thing I'll tell you, and then I'll tell you 20 more things, was when I was sitting at breakfast waiting for those guys. I'm on, like, a bench seat along the wall. The hotel's packed the gills for some reason. And then this woman next to me, she goes, she's staring at me. Oh. And I just keep, like, reading the menu. And she goes, I hear making noise. And she goes, dana Carvey.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, wow.

[David Spade]

Classic color. I go close. Then I keep reading. She goes, you're Dana Carvey. I go, I'm not. But yes, I. I know. Dan I know, I know what you're saying. And it's we used to work with together. We used to have the same job. Then she goes, but you're that guy. And I go and then she goes, I don't have my phone cuz I left it in Vancouver. I go, what Vancouver? Dude, if I left it my room, I'd be flipping out. Three minutes ago I'd be like glick, glitch, glitch. So she finally goes, I could tell by your voice you're Dana Carvey. She kept hammering and everyone now in the restaurant is like, it's not him. But anyway, I finally have to say, no, no, I'm a different guy. And then, well, will you sign it? Sign me something, because I don't have my phone. So I sign it David, but I put not Dana Garvey BET mgm. Dana, we know about this gm. That's right, football fans, which is me. Register with BET MGM and keep the good times rolling all season long. This pro football season, new customers can download the BetMGM app and receive up to $1,500 in bonus bets. Okay. With code FLY FLY. And if they don't win their first bet, you get access to second chance promos, odds boost tokens, same game parlays, bet MGM original bets, special boosts and tokens. And actually more new features are coming.

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

Whoa.

[Dana Carvey]

And they have this thing with these giant buses, big heavy eight tire buses, and they go up the 1600ft incline around hairpin turns up to the castle, then you see the event and then you're coming back down. So we sat in the very front and I'm watching the guy downshifting. It looks like you're going 30, 40 miles an hour right at a hairpin turn. There's no guardrails and he's kind of like straining to turn. If one tire gets out, we're trundling down.

[David Spade]

Trundling.

[Dana Carvey]

And right before we got into the thing, the guide we had been guided the whole way through A very nice woman. She goes, hey, well, isn't that special? I gave her a hug. And then going down, I was really nervous. My palms were sweating. I was watching the driver. He had a cloth and he was wiping off the sweat. And just so then I came up with this idea, just hit us like a ton of bricks. I don't think it'll be funny on the podcast, but I just did a news report. Ladies and gentlemen, at this hour, the church lady is no more. As if I trundled off the thing.

[David Spade]

But no church lady went to heaven.

[Dana Carvey]

The church lady is no more. I don't know where that phrase comes from. And the church ladies and war. But anyway, it was a fun trip, but you should go up there.

[David Spade]

Where is that?

[Dana Carvey]

I had central California, you know, it's near south of Monteray, north of Papa Daba, near Paso Robos. It's about a guy with a billion trillion dollars who just kept building and building this giant thing. Charlie Chaplin was there, Winston Churchill, you know.

[David Spade]

They were there this weekend.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, Cary Grant came by. Couldn't believe it. So did you. I told you that the other day that I use old timey movie star voices when I'm calling Comcast.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I like this.

[Dana Carvey]

And they're like, so have you tried turning it off your machine? And they don't know who Cary Grant is. So the whole time I'm just going, yes, I did. I tried. I turned it on and off, but nothing happened. And I'll turn it on and off again, but nothing's happening. Well. Well, they go, well, I don't know, let's see. Do you want someone to come out? Well, that'd be very nice if you could have someone come out and take care of my gum gas.

[David Spade]

I used to have TiVo that. I have Spectra Vision.

[Dana Carvey]

And they don't say, who is this? Are you making a fun. This is the way you talk. They just accept Cary Grant completely.

[David Spade]

We should bring back that talk again because it sounds cool.

[Dana Carvey]

Actually, it is kind of a very strange accent. And sometimes I. I kind of do Henry Fonda. I'm trying to watch the game. I'm not getting any kind of reception here. And they don't say, hey, are you Henry Fonda?

[David Spade]

They just work with you.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. So anyway, that's a little fun. Little side note.

[David Spade]

No, that's. That's it. Other than that, I would not go to that place. It's not far enough for me. I like to go to super effing far.

[Dana Carvey]

I got confirmation because I said, our mutual manager, Mark Slurvitz. Book me where David went, and I am going to play it in the dead of winter.

[David Spade]

They would love you.

[Dana Carvey]

February 1st, it's called the Ice Bowl.

[David Spade]

That day, actually, Alaska was really fun. And it's fun to see a place that you never, ever go. And it was a good reason to go. And then we drove around and we ate, and everyone kept pushing the salmon on us. Have you tried the salmon? The funniest part was everyone.

[Dana Carvey]

They all have, like, a Canadian accent, kind of.

[David Spade]

Kind of. I'm sort of cheating it. But everyone has either New Balance or Roku or snow boots or just boots. It's all boots. And then we leave the hotel. We see the guy in an empty room, the shoeshine guy. And I'm like, who's. Who's got who? Not one person had hard shoes in.

[Dana Carvey]

That hotel, and he's just a broke shoeshine guy from another era. Yeah, I want to go there. I honestly, I would love to go to Alaska because I'm from Montana, which has a lot of that, but Alaska's like 2.0 as far as underdeveloped grizzly bears everywhere. I mean, you saw the grizzly man guy.

[David Spade]

It was.

[Dana Carvey]

It was in Alaska. The guy who just got killed by the grizzly bears because he loved them too much.

[David Spade]

I've decided I could maybe beat a bear in a fight. If they were declawed then to make it even.

[Dana Carvey]

Couldn't they just go like that and you'd be dead. I don't even. I don't think they need the claw.

[David Spade]

No. Because we. We would grapple a little bit.

[Dana Carvey]

Right.

[David Spade]

And then it would be fair. And then also, they'd have to be roughly in my weight class.

[Dana Carvey]

So you would. They would know they were in a fight. A grizzly bear versus you. Declawed. They. They would know they're. They're getting something. You would. You would make your presence known as a physical being.

[David Spade]

They would try to make themselves bigger. I go, oh, to scare me. It doesn't work with me. It works the other way around. Doesn't work with me because I hit a fly in the shower. I shouldn't even tell you this. I was getting in the shower.

[Dana Carvey]

Where are we?

[David Spade]

Okay, I'll save this for next episode. It's too good.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay, we have.

[David Spade]

We have pressing news.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, we have pressing.

[David Spade]

We have pressing news about snl. We're the last people to report on this, nor the snl.

[Dana Carvey]

We were just there. No, it's happening live in real time. So basically. Well, we can do these in different chunks, there was two big things that caught my attention. Well, three big things. One is the people that they let go that are not coming back. Two is the people that they hired. And then the fact that. Please don't destroy. Please don't destroy. Please don't destroy. So that was disbanded in a very bad.

[David Spade]

Please don't destroy.

[Dana Carvey]

Please don't destroy.

[David Spade]

And they asked nicely.

[Dana Carvey]

The exit people. Heidi Gardner. Devin Walker. Emil Michael Longfellow.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Heidi Rosebud.

[Dana Carvey]

Rosebud Baker.

[David Spade]

As a writer we had on the pod right before that. And she did feel a bit waffly, right?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, a little bit. You know, I. I just say there's two lanes, there's one lane where you're a little iffy. Is this the right thing for what I should be doing with my resources, my personal talent? Am I getting paid enough to make it worth my while? If you're. If you're the tip of the spear, if you're on the show all the time and you're really killing it, then you don't. You. You want to stay, you know, so.

[David Spade]

And also, like Rose, but there's also not just her, but there's a mental aspect of, like, can I take it another year? I mean, you know that sinking feeling. You don't know it. I know the sinking feeling.

[Dana Carvey]

I had a weird time when you're.

[David Spade]

Not in re, when you don't get anything past read through. And that is the longest week because you get out at Wednesday and you're, like, just staring and you're just invisible because everyone's like, all right, I gotta direct my sketch. I gotta meet with Keith. I gotta put this set dressing together. I want to go to wigs, figure that out, hair and makeup, and talk to the cast, and everything's happening around you. Now you got to start on Wednesday night thinking about the next host, going, what can I write for next week? Because I didn't get anything on as a writer or performer. And I think some of these guys had that problem that if you're a cast member and it's just like, such a mind effort to sit there and wait and wait and watch everyone to be happy for it, and cheerleading because you want to be part of it. And then you just go, shit, I'm not really part of it this week. And then all Saturday and watching things kill, and that's tough.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, the first time that when I went on years ago, there was just three main male cast members, it was me and Phil and Jon Lovitz left over from 85.

[David Spade]

Right.

[Dana Carvey]

And so. And then we had Kevin Nealon and feature a Whitney Brown and so forth. And they became. But it was. It's very interesting how for a long time it's 17, 18, 19, 20 people. And so there's some people if you don't get on the show. Devin Walker had told me this because I was just out there. You were out there Hunter Biden. You became Hunter. You became Hunter Biden. There was no more David Spade. It actually was a great look and you were great. But Devin had told me that when you don't get on the show a lot to your point, then when you get out there and you have a moment, you're not just sort of relaxed because it's like if you don't score here you go back in line. So it can be emotionally violent, depending where you are in the show. Or it could be a magic ride. Nothing likes killing on live television. We can bounce around again. But the one that got my attention the most was the Please don't destroy. Because it's seemed to me they're really popular. They were.

[David Spade]

Which is the group of three.

[Dana Carvey]

Sorry, the group of three guys. Ben Marshall, John Higgins and Martin Herlihy.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And they do these short films, kind of esoteric ones, you know, with, you know, Timothy Chalamet or whoever they're in.

[David Spade]

Taylor Swift has been in them. Like they get big stars in them. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

So that really surprised me. And on a human level, I was surprised that they kept some of them. So John Higgins is not going to be part of snl. You know, he's on. Yeah. Steve Higgins son is.

[David Spade]

He's not at all.

[Dana Carvey]

Not at all. Ben Marshall, the taller guy with the fair hair, he's going to be a feature player. And then Martin Hurley, Tim Hurley's son, to be, in fairness, he is going to be a writer, but John Higgins dad is Steve Higgins, who does. Is the sidekick to Jimmy Fallon, the announcer and also writer. Producer. Been on the show in and around.

[David Spade]

Writer?

[Dana Carvey]

I don't think so, but he's just been a producer writer there for like 20 years or more. I don't know.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And that's his son. And I don't know all the. How the decisions are made, but that's just on a human level, it's sort of like, you know, it's. Don't. Don't know. I mean, you know, that didn't hit.

[David Spade]

Me that if they pick up one as a cast member, it immediately breaks them up. And now they're not on the show because they Were only really in those things.

[Dana Carvey]

And they also wrote. They were. They were writing sketches.

[David Spade]

Oh, okay.

[Dana Carvey]

They were writers. And then that was the thing they did. It wasn't on every week. Please Don't Destroy Me short film, but I was on consistently. It seemed me. You seemed to me eight to ten episodes a year.

[David Spade]

Sure.

[Dana Carvey]

So, you know, as far as, you know, Martin Hurley, he. His dad's a great writer. Tim Hurley wrote. Is writing stuff with Sandler all the time and did write a lot of movies. So. But these are. They would call them Nepo people, but they're really talented. All three of them work together. I never saw that one was above the other. I thought it was very. They had a lot of chemistry.

[New Cast Member (Female)]

And.

[Dana Carvey]

And so that was kind of surprising how mentally tough.

[David Spade]

That's a. That really is drama. I mean, my gosh.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Because it's so tough there. Anyway. And they were making some headway, and I think they did a Please Don't Destroy movie.

[Dana Carvey]

They did. And I do think. I'm not sure, but I think they do own Please Don't Destroy. And I think they're currently doing some dates. So we'll say they probably have heels, but I don't know.

[David Spade]

Oh, my God. So the one guy has to say, I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna be a cast member. How? It's fucking awkward for sure, right?

[Dana Carvey]

It's just weird. Yeah. It's like the three Dudes and they take Mo Howard, but then, you know, Shem doesn't get anything. Right. It's not literally like that. I'm trying to think of a trio. The Marx Brothers. We're taking Groucho, but not Harpo. I'm not saying it's that, but it is different.

[David Spade]

They have a fan base. I mean, they definitely. Sometimes they would wait a week for a host or something. Like.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

They would write something and go, oh, when Jon Hamm comes, he'll do this, you know, And. And then to write for the show. But it. So one is gonna be a performer, probably still a writer. One is gonna be a writer.

[Dana Carvey]

Writer. Martin Hurley. Yeah.

[David Spade]

And Higgins.

[Dana Carvey]

John Higgins, he's good, too. Who's very good, very funny. Is just not the show anymore, you know? So it must be just awkward for his dad and everything, you know, So. I mean, he's very talented, and they're all talented. And, you know, everyone at one point is an ex SNL cast member or. Or writer. You. You're always going to be post SNL way longer than you're on snl. So it does happen eventually. And he's got a good foothold as far as being seen as a great writer, great performer, along with his two friends, you know.

[David Spade]

Right. He could be thrown in movies. I mean, any of them. I think some. One of them was in Happy Gilmore.

[Dana Carvey]

Too, I think probably.

[David Spade]

But I don't that is any bearing on who stays, who goes.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. So that's just a.

[David Spade]

On top of everything else, on top of just that, you know, it's already a full cast. And Heidi, do we know did she leave or was she.

[Dana Carvey]

From what I know as of this recording, that it was not her idea to leave. Now, I could be wrong about that, but that's what I.

[David Spade]

That would be a little shocking because she's really one of the core ones, you know, from that show. And she always does a great job.

[Dana Carvey]

You never know. And it is a hard thing. But I was really, really surprised. I think she's got a. A likability. She can play real straight newswoman, serious. She can play big, broad, funny, physical. So I was surprised by that. She has finished a full eight seasons, which is. Which is right up there. You know, 8 is a lot. 8's a lot. It's. It's.

[David Spade]

8 is Enough was a show.

[Dana Carvey]

8 is Enough. Who got their name? 8 is Enough. Based on what you just said, it knew that 8 is a lie based on the. There wasn't even SNL then. But that's a whole another story.

[David Spade]

I mean, when you look back, Dana, as you were brushing against earlier, when you were talking, the first cast was maybe eight total. Maybe seven or eight. And that's why they were all stars. They're all in everything. And you're like. You kind of look like this person. You do it as we said. Dan Aykroyd, mustache play Nixon. Don't wear a wig, nothing. You're just Nixon. And it all worked when it was up to us. When we were there, it was really fat. And I think it stayed pretty porky.

[Dana Carvey]

Because right now, once you guys were added and a lot of us were.

[David Spade]

Different words, it's chunky right now.

[Dana Carvey]

It's a little. Yeah, there's some blubber. Lean and mean. And now it's chunky and fluffy.

[David Spade]

They need a little of OIC over there. We gotta kind of.

[Dana Carvey]

It's a sink or swim. It's a hedge Your bet you. You go or you don't go.

[David Spade]

It's like reminds me of Hunger Games. You're stick looking out the window. Send in this, you know, like in Hunger Games just to cause Trouble, right?

[Dana Carvey]

Or Gladiator. Bring in Brutus and see if he can stab anybody.

[David Spade]

If not, I like when wan stabs him and goes, hey, good luck out there.

[Dana Carvey]

And he's like, I'd love to get stabbed in the movie just so I could do that moment of like. And then you go, I know it.

[David Spade]

Hurts and it hit an artery, but I'm still going to be out there.

[Dana Carvey]

Pull it out. 40 minute finale character would pull it out and then like.

[David Spade]

Slow motion.

[Dana Carvey]

All right, so let's just give our props to Michael Longfellow, a really cool.

[David Spade]

Long fellow Arizona dude.

[Dana Carvey]

Funny.

[David Spade]

All these people.

[Dana Carvey]

Emil was an adorable person and funny out there, you know, so it's, it's. It just. They can't have a 100 cast members. I don't know how these people feel, but I give them my props for being. I was there with all of them.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Super likable. I was there for 10 freaking weeks.

[David Spade]

Yeah, you moved there and deserted me.

[Dana Carvey]

But Lauren and I talked a lot next year. Dana, what do you think? Where do you. Where do you want to go? And I said a lot of things.

[David Spade]

Oh, also I'll say on the new cast, there's only two. I know. Briefly. Okay, Veronica, I'm gonna. Sure.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay. Who are we looking? Which one's this? Oh, here she is. Here's for a new cast member.

[New Cast Member (Female)]

Done, done, done, done.

[David Spade]

She does these goofy videos all the time.

[New Cast Member (Female)]

I'm done being the beauty standard. I'm done being this is beautiful online. I'm sick of it, okay? I'm sick of this making the money. I'm sick of this making the money. I'm sick of it all, okay? I'm done. I want people to know me for my mind. If you crack the skull open and would be able to read it like a scroll, you would buying some up. I'm not kidding.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Okay, well then what is like.

[Cam Patterson]

So why.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Why are you posing like that then.

[Dana Carvey]

If you don't want to be?

[New Cast Member (Female)]

Stop Kyle sexualizing me. It's disgusting.

[David Spade]

That's all she does.

[New Cast Member (Female)]

Serious.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Okay, then stop doing that and say.

[Dana Carvey]

Like Cherry O Terry Vibes.

[David Spade]

Yeah, it is funny. She is full bananas. But she does these on Instagram and she's funny. So she. She will be play. She has characters. She also is in tires with Shane and she was on there this season. So listen, she's good. High quality. She'll be good.

[Dana Carvey]

There's brilliant people that. And she sings soft spoken or on their back which really helps and have a dry kind of quirky way about them. When you see her, she's on her front foot, she's like, she's got a neurotic or she's portraying a neurotic energy with a lot of pop to it. So I can see that.

[David Spade]

That can pay off.

[Dana Carvey]

Kate McGinnie vibes. You don't want to put any. You know what, I can see some Sherry o' Terry in there.

[David Spade]

So yeah, sure. It's a little. It's a little nuts and it. And I. And she sings, which also helps because if you can sing on that show, you're in X more sketches.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, she sings too. Okay, well, let's officially wish her all the best.

[David Spade]

Yeah, wish her the best. And if we were, if we were.

[Dana Carvey]

Casting the show, we probably cast her.

[David Spade]

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[David Spade]

Yeah, Cam Patterson is.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, let's play him there. He's on our friend Tony Hincliff.

[Cam Patterson]

Three weeks ago.

[Additional Speaker or Improv Performer]

And let me tell you how it happened to. I was on tinder. It was 3 o' clock in the morning, you know, 3 o' clock in the morning you want to something real bad. So I was just like a. I was just sending out hair Marys like a right? And at one swipe, I just seen some big ass titties. I'm like. So I just went, I want to suck your titties. And she responded, well, come suck them then. Touchdown. So, so I get to the crib, right? And I don't see big ass titties. I see Dwayne the Rock Johnson in a wig. So now I am terrified. I'm scared of shit. So when I get in the house, I lock myself in the bathroom and I start doing research, right? I want to make sure she really elated, right? So I'm in and I'm scrolling and. And I found out she was born related. So I'm like, oh, cool, we can now. But I don't know if y' all notice or not. If you ever a girl you think might be a dude, your research never stops. So 30 seconds in, we the missionary, right? And she think I'm trying to choke her, but I'm feeling for Adam's apple. You ain't me stupid, dumbass. At one point we were fucking. I felt so safe in her strong ass arms. I had to let myself go. I felt free. I felt so free. And we were fucking. And at one point she bitch pressed me out of her pussy and I just went. I was having a great time.

[David Spade]

Okay, well, is there a longer clip? Cam is. Cam is funny. I saw Cam. I went to the stand when I was in town in New York last time and Tim Dillon was. I went on a show and it was me and Tim Dillon and Cam.

[Dana Carvey]

Yep.

[David Spade]

And Tim was hilarious, of course. And then Cam and those two guys are both in Bus Boys and I. I wanted to see Cam because I hadn't really seen him much and I never seen him in person. And he was. He has very interesting take on these stories. He had a story about his sister that was really funny. So long story short, I could see Cam on that show. I Could see it. Eddie Murphy vibes, that kind of stuff. You know what I mean?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. I mean, I'm assuming because it's sort of like tell that story on Update and how much would he have to compromise the rhythm of the language? You can't say fuck. So I wanted to go make love to her, you know, and so that's the only thing I would see does. He must have bits where. It's just. They're. It's clean, right?

[David Spade]

Yeah. Really rough around the edges stuff. And you know, on Kill Tony, that. That's kind of how the vibe is. But people like that and appreciate it out there. Now. Does it tame him down too much on snl? I don't know. That.

[Dana Carvey]

I don't know. But he has a very likable vibe about him and a charismatic vibe. So you're. You're compelled.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

There's something about him that's really, really.

[David Spade]

Yeah, he's a good looking kid. He's charm. So.

[Dana Carvey]

And he's telling this story that's like. And he's still just really likable throughout. I want some titties and know it's like. But there's something about his utter honesty.

[David Spade]

Yeah. He knows what he's doing in the standup. And. And there's Tony Brennan. I don't think I know. Maybe I know.

[Dana Carvey]

No, let's try Tony Brennan.

[David Spade]

Oh, okay. I've seen this kid.

[Dana Carvey]

All right. Yeah.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

You don't see eight a lot anymore. I think mainly because it's the wrong choice probably is that kids, you can't love eight kids individually. You manage them like a sports franchise, you know, like, you love the overall team.

[David Spade]

Sure.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

But you trade a couple players. Absolutely. We all have these weird individual relationships with our parents and my family. Like, me and my dad are in a fun spot because my dad's a doctor and I don't have health insurance. It rules because anytime he's like, I don't believe in your career, I'm like, dude, same here. Right back at you, doc. That's why I never call. That's out of pocket. Unfortunately, when I lost my health insurance, my dad kind of became my go to doctor. That's not a great relationship to have with your primary care physician. Me and him have to have little medical check ins. He'll be like, hey, you should drink less. And I'm like, hey, you should hug more. Let's treat the root cause, not the symptoms.

[David Spade]

That's good.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay. Yeah. That was about him being from a family of one of eight.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

And I was on Fallon. It looked like. I do like he wears a windbreaker too. That's a funny look. It's a cool.

[Dana Carvey]

He has a bit about that jacket in a different clip. Yeah.

[David Spade]

Clean cut, good looking kid. You know, they're all different so far. I. I think that. Yeah, he's got a tinge of Mulaney in his looks. Okay. Yeah. Who else? Should we go down and show the rest? I guess I didn't know.

[Dana Carvey]

There's one more. I think there's. Is there one more? We did Jeremy for the first time. Are you ready for the doubloon?

[Cam Patterson]

Because we are about to. Set.

[Dana Carvey]

Set. Oh, what's this?

[Additional Speaker or Improv Performer]

Hold on.

[David Spade]

Wow.

[Dana Carvey]

This feel. This is actually. Oh, really? It's really helping.

[Cam Patterson]

I feel great. Avast ye, matey.

[Dana Carvey]

ARR.

[New Cast Member (Female)]

We no longer respect you.

[David Spade]

Oh, come on.

[Cam Patterson]

Listen.

[Dana Carvey]

Hey, hey.

[Cam Patterson]

Listen to me, you pirates. I won't be challenged like this.

[Dana Carvey]

ARR.

[New Cast Member (Female)]

You sound stupid. You sound like me dad.

[Cam Patterson]

Listen, I'm not your father. I'm the most feared pirate in all of the seven seas. We're gonna go in there and. And pillage and kill. Who's with me? Damn it. Okay, why does this pirate now sound like he's a two bedroom on Wall Street?

[David Spade]

So this an improv show. That's kind of. Okay, that's off a show pirate.

[Dana Carvey]

A throat L. Because I think that they got that and then they improvised it.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I guess.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Well, that's pretty funny. Okay, so that's the whole. That's the whole squad, I'm sure. And he's probably from an improv background, so.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I didn't know it was improv. Complete improv. But yeah, he sort of was. In his eyes, he was having fun, you know?

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And it's always good works, for sure. So it's hard to tell. We wish him all the best. We're not saying we're talent scouts, although, you know, Dennis recommended David, and then Lauren asked me what I thought of David, and I said.

[Cam Patterson]

What?

[Dana Carvey]

Why are you pausing? Oh, David Spade. Well, just say if. Yay or nay. I just need an answer, please. I co. Signed you.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And Rob Schneider.

[David Spade]

No, it's a big. All that stuff, obviously, was the biggest push because they hear stuff on the streets. Everybody gets it from some whisper of like, have you heard about this guy? This guy's good.

[Dana Carvey]

Seen him in the clubs.

[David Spade]

You see Cam unkilled. Tony's it. So something happens and someone sees you on Instagram or. And then enough people talk that they take a look, and then your Reps are pushing you, I guess. And then. But if you have people on the inside going, oh, I know this person. They're great, you know, that. That helped me. It helps a lot of people.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Because there is. There's that thing, but there is sort of like, I think for Lauren is how he's said this before. But does the cast. Will they be friends? Will there not be conflict? Will. Will there be someone you want to have dinner with or hang out with? You know, it's that sort of. You don't want someone who is bringing toxic energy into the thing unless they're a genius or they're brilliant. But most are pretty humbled by that show, even.

[David Spade]

And this new cast, I mean, I think we can wrap up with this because this show is, yeah, mostly going to be about that today. But I think it's a good mix of those people we just saw. So I think. I think they'll do a good job. It doesn't mean it won't be very dramatic, as always, but I think they have some talent there. And now it's now. Now the fun starts where you got to start writing and go, okay.

[Dana Carvey]

And we didn't get Ben Marshall, but he's been on there. And please don't destroy. He's the tall.

[David Spade]

Oh, right.

[Dana Carvey]

We didn't show light here, but we've seen his. His. His work, his vibe, he's funny.

[David Spade]

And when is that first show? I mean, it is September. Holy.

[Dana Carvey]

October 4th. So it's still like a month away of them hanging out there. When you're new and there's. You're around the office for a month, it's very stressful, you know, because you. You know, it's out there where you got to go on live.

[David Spade]

And we went on a. Were you there when we all went to Mohunk to all hang out, like.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

On a getaway.

[Dana Carvey]

Cast get together, get us all kind of together.

[David Spade]

Sandler and bunk beds and Farley.

[Dana Carvey]

Mohunk.

[David Spade]

And every time someone talked about Montauk, I thought they were saying Mohunk wrong. I'm like, oh, we went to the coolest plot place, Mohunk. And everyone's like, no one's gone to Mohonk.

[Dana Carvey]

Except, no, it was a haunted hotel. I did a movie there, and it was absolutely haunted. And Chris Farley was sleepwalking, and we ended up spooning. You know, he came to my room, and it's like. It was like, you know, he crawled in my bed.

[David Spade]

Sure. You know, there's one quick story then we can End. But Norm said that when we were in that haunted hotel, Farley said, norm, I have to tell you a secret. Come with me. No one can hear. And he goes, all right. Because you always go along with whatever. Farley.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[David Spade]

And he walks him down. Then he goes, go down this elevator. Then they go, go in this dusty room underneath.

[Dana Carvey]

And he goes, pat's a girl. And that was it. I love when someone goes.

[David Spade]

So we'll push our fan questions to next week because I like this talk, but we're gonna come back strong next week. We'll show clips, we'll do news stories.

[Dana Carvey]

Any feedback on this? We're just, we're just like you. We're fans of the show. And we just sort of went over everything and, you know, let us, let us know your take. And God bless all those people because it's just a lot of the family is your, your, your siblings, whoever. And it's a lot of try to have fun. It never works to say that, but that's, that's the goal is when you're out there, have inside your brain, be having fun if possible.

[David Spade]

And the people leaving are a little disoriented right now, but it will all be. It's all works out well.

[Dana Carvey]

They're already. Heidi Gardner's a big talent. She's going to go places.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I see her on TV every three seconds. She's on commercial.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, she's great.

[David Spade]

Okay, thanks, everybody. Thanks, Dana, for coming by and doing.

[Dana Carvey]

My show and thanks for having me on again, David. It's been 200 times in a row. I appreciate that.

[David Spade]

And we'll see you guys next week.

[Dana Carvey]

See you next week, guys. Bye bye.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

Fly on the Wall is presented by Odyssey, an executive produced by Danny Carvey and David Spade, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman, Maddie Sprung Kaiser and Leah Reese Dennis of Odyssey, our senior producer is.

[Dana Carvey]

Greg Holtzman, and the show is produced and edited by Phil Sweet, tech booking by Cultivated Entertainment. Special thanks to Patrick Fogarty, Evan Cox, Maura Curran, Melissa Wester, Hillary Schuff, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Sean Cherry, Kirk Courtney and Lauren Vieira.

[David Spade]

Reach out with us. Any questions to be asked and answered on the show, you can email [e-mail]. that's a U D a C-Y dot com.