Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade: Episode Summary - SNL History w/ Jason Reitman

Release Date: December 25, 2024

Introduction

In this engaging episode of Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade, hosts Dana Carvey and David Spade delve deep into the rich history of Saturday Night Live (SNL) with acclaimed director and writer Jason Reitman. The conversation navigates through the intricate dynamics of SNL’s early days, the making of Reitman’s recent SNL-focused movie, and the enduring legacy of the legendary sketch show.

The Making of "SNL History"

Jason Reitman opens up about his fascination with SNL from a young age, explaining how his childhood exposure to the show and his father's connections in the industry ignited his passion. He shares, “[13:05] Jason Reitman: ...I grew up obsessed with SNL... I wanted to know who the people behind the scenes were and how the show was being made.”

Reitman discusses the meticulous research involved in recreating the SNL environment for his movie, emphasizing the authenticity of the set design. Dana Carvey praises the accurate depiction, stating, “[04:14] Dana Carvey: ...he made a set that looked like. I thought they were filming in 8H. It was so accurate.”

Capturing the Chaos and Creativity

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the chaotic yet creative atmosphere of SNL’s production. Reitman highlights the “shuttle launch” essence of the show, where the team crafts a live 90-minute broadcast with only hours of preparation. He explains, “[25:46] Jason Reitman: ...the most thrilling thing I've ever been present for. It's an extraordinary piece of choreography in front and behind the camera.”

David Spade adds personal anecdotes about the intense preparation and the pressure to perform flawlessly live. “[03:19] David Spade: ...she reminds you to gamble responsibly... So this is about SNL.”

Interactions with SNL Legends

The episode features heartfelt and humorous exchanges about interactions with iconic SNL figures. Dana Carvey reflects on working alongside Phil Hartman and Gilda Radner, sharing insights into their collaborative spirit. Reitman recounts meeting Chevy Chase, portraying him with both humor and respect. “[70:42] Dana Carvey: ...He loves to say the thing you're not supposed to say. Yeah. To the extreme, where it can go wherever it wants to go.”

Jason Reitman discusses the delicate balance of portraying these legends authentically while highlighting their unique personalities. He remarks, “[49:44] Jason Reitman: ...just capturing Chevy Chase perfectly and also, finding the humanity. No, none of that play. He's not talking about that.”

Lorne Michaels’ Influence and Legacy

A central theme is the pivotal role of Lorne Michaels in shaping SNL’s identity. Reitman emphasizes Michaels’ unwavering commitment to the show’s unique format and its ability to adapt over decades. “[33:24] Dana Carvey: ...Lorne Michaels never wavered. He really does believe in it.”

The hosts and Reitman discuss Michaels’ enigmatic presence and his ability to maintain a productive yet challenging environment for the cast and crew. “[60:27] Dana Carvey: ...he’s so observant and so smart that he can just see right through you.”

Challenges in Depicting SNL’s Realities

Reitman candidly addresses the challenges of portraying the real-life tensions and dynamics within SNL’s early days. From cast rivalries to the high-stakes pressure of live television, the movie captures the raw emotions and behind-the-scenes struggles. “...there's a little something for everyone,” Dana notes, highlighting the multifaceted nature of the show.

David Spade shares his own experiences of feeling overwhelmed and the constant fear of being fired, which Reitman skillfully incorporates into the film’s narrative. “[12:25] Jason Reitman: How obsessed were you both with SNL before you auditioned?”

Reflections on SNL’s Enduring Appeal

Toward the episode’s conclusion, the trio reflects on why SNL remains a cultural phenomenon. They discuss the show’s ability to continuously reinvent itself while staying true to its core values of spontaneity and satire. “[53:27] Dana Carvey: ...it's a celebration of how this show is actually made and the fact that it came so close to not ever existing.”

Jason Reitman asserts that SNL’s enduring appeal lies in its blend of brilliant ensemble performances and the chaotic yet harmonious behind-the-scenes efforts. “[75:10] Dana Carvey: ...you have to find the fine line where it's not too rough.”

Notable Quotes

• “[04:16] Dana Carvey: ...this is crazy talk.”
• “[25:46] Jason Reitman: ...the most thrilling thing I've ever been present for.”
• “[33:24] Dana Carvey: ...Lorne Michaels never wavered.”
• “[70:42] Dana Carvey: ...He loves to say the thing you're not supposed to say.”

Conclusion

This episode serves as a deep dive into the intricate workings and storied history of SNL, guided by Jason Reitman’s firsthand experiences and insights. Dana Carvey and David Spade, with their characteristic humor and candidness, provide a captivating narrative that not only honors the legacy of SNL but also unearths the human stories behind its iconic sketches and memorable moments. For fans of SNL and followers of Comedic history, this episode is a treasure trove of anecdotes, reflections, and behind-the-scenes revelations.

Presented by Audacy.