SUPERFLY #65 - Rob Lowe Talks Hollywood

Summary

Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
Episode: SUPERFLY #65 - Rob Lowe Talks Hollywood
Release Date: April 25, 2025

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Introduction

In Superfly #65, hosts Dana Carvey and David Spade delve into the pressing issues facing Hollywood with a special guest appearance by Rob Lowe. The trio navigates the complexities of the entertainment industry's current recession, the impact of tax incentives on local economies, and the broader implications for industry professionals who form the backbone of show business.

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The Hollywood Recession and Tax Incentives

The conversation kicks off around the [03:40] mark with Dana and David addressing the economic downturn gripping Hollywood. They discuss how recent tax incentives, while intended to attract productions to states like Georgia or countries like Ireland, are inadvertently draining resources from California's local economy.

David Spade highlights, "If the whole country was me, we'd be in a deep depression" ([02:36]), emphasizing the personal impact of these economic shifts on industry insiders.

Rob Lowe adds depth to the discussion by explaining the logistical and financial challenges:

"There is one metric that... the cost of living in LA, you know, for all the people we're talking about, a basic home is about a million bucks in Los Angeles County." ([34:13])

This segment underscores the strain on both the creative and technical professionals who have long called Los Angeles home.

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Impact on Industry Professionals

Dana and David shed light on the often-overlooked workers in Hollywood—the grips, electricians, drivers, and caterers—who are facing significant job losses. Dana Carvey poignantly states:

"Everyone's scraping by, and I think we're not here to really complain and bitch about everything. We're just trying to say, people should just know about this." ([37:10])

Rob Lowe elaborates on the ripple effects of production relocations:

"The ecosystem of it... the car wash that goes out of business, the smaller restaurants, the catering companies that go out. Yeah, it trickles down." ([36:16])

This highlights how decisions at the top tiers of production impact everyday businesses and livelihoods within the community.

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Call to Action: Engaging with State Representatives

Recognizing the severity of the situation, the trio urges listeners to take action. Around [47:23], Rob Lowe emphasizes the importance of political engagement:

"If you're listening to this in California and you're so inclined, pick up the phone and call your congressman. Or more importantly, it would be your state, your state representative, because right now it's a state issue." ([48:33-47:23])

Dana Carvey reinforces this sentiment, encouraging constituents to reach out to their state representatives to advocate for policies that support local industry workers and prevent further economic decline.

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Possible Solutions and Future Outlook

David Spade discusses potential legislative measures aimed at making California's tax incentives more competitive:

"There's a bill now that apparently is going to be really, really helpful... it would make California at least on par with New York." ([34:56])

This legislative effort aims to retain Hollywood productions within California, thereby preserving jobs and sustaining the local economy.

Rob Lowe adds optimism about the resilience of the industry professionals:

"Nobody changes until they're in enough pain... Maybe our industry, and California in particular, is in enough pain to finally make some changes to what is unsustainable." ([54:04])

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Humor and Camaraderie

Throughout the episode, Dana, David, and Rob infuse their discussion with humor, lightening the gravity of the topics. From debating the best hairstyles in Hollywood to reminiscing about iconic films like Breakfast Club, their chemistry keeps the conversation engaging.

Dana Carvey humorously quips about his wardrobe choices:

"Teal Sweater... It's a way that makes me never put a hat on again." ([51:27])

These moments not only entertain but also showcase the enduring friendships and shared histories among the hosts and their guests.

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Conclusion

Superfly #65 offers an insightful look into the hidden struggles within Hollywood, spotlighting the essential workers who keep the industry running. Dana Carvey, David Spade, and Rob Lowe combine their unique perspectives to shed light on economic challenges, advocate for policy changes, and remind listeners of the collective effort required to sustain the magic of showbiz.

As the episode wraps up, listeners are left with a blend of laughter and a deeper understanding of the complexities behind the glitz and glamour of Hollywood.

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Notable Quotes

• Dana Carvey at [03:55]: "We're all a bunch of idiots. We literally don't know what started with."
• David Spade at [34:13]: "The cost of living in LA... a basic home is about a million bucks in Los Angeles County."
• Rob Lowe at [48:33]: "Pick up the phone and call your congressman... it's a state issue."
• Dana Carvey at [37:10]: "People should just know about this."
• Rob Lowe at [54:04]: "Maybe our industry, and California in particular, is in enough pain to finally make some changes."

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This episode serves as a crucial reminder of the intricate web that supports Hollywood and the importance of community and policy in maintaining its vibrancy.

Transcript

[Dana Carvey]

Dana, it's award season, which means we're due for some classic red carpet combos like strapless dresses and statement necklaces or acclaimed directors and long acceptance speeches.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

Hey, everybody. Welcome to Superfly. There's Dana here and his stark pad. Here's Spade and his pea soup green backdrop. He keeps threatening to change, but he hasn't yet.

[David Spade]

I'm a minimalist. I figured that out. I'm a minimalist.

[Dana Carvey]

I think as you go along and you get to buy things you like and you do things, you start to get that way. And that's what I'm starting to get. You don't need a ton of things. I need elbow room. You like your freedom, you like different things. But once you have a car, you.

[David Spade]

Got some clothes for the economy, you know, that's all I can say. If the whole country was me, we'd be in a deep depression.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm out there. I do throw some back into the econ, but I try not to get too, too pushy about it. This is literally not the word I'm looking for.

[David Spade]

You were pretty close, and it was kind of clear.

[Dana Carvey]

You don't want to say, hey, I got some beans in my jeans, even though I'm showing off a teal pullover today.

[David Spade]

Do you want to mention the maker of the said sweater so that you may get a free. Free one in the mail or.

[Dana Carvey]

I don't think. I know. I know it's teal, and I know it's for real. And I know I saw a basketball.

[David Spade]

By Shaquille after a big meal. I'm not made of steel, but this is for real with teal.

[Dana Carvey]

Dude, we just lost a thousand viewers.

[David Spade]

It's a big deal. They haven't even gotten focused yet. We're on. In the background. They're flipping a smash.

[Dana Carvey]

Dude, don't squeal. So dumb.

[David Spade]

Just my camera.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. So here we are. We made it to another superfly. Everyone's stoked. We do have a guest later, and. But right now, I want to hear about anything that happened in the last week of note, and it better be of note.

[David Spade]

Should we test. Should we tease.

[Dana Carvey]

Tease the guests? Sure. Now, go ahead.

[David Spade]

Ladies and gentlemen, can you do a drum roll? Some. Some. Ladies and gentlemen, in a little bit, we're gonna have our good buddy, the one and only, really the hardest working man in show business. Been with us, America. Been a star for a long time. Still looks like he's a nice high school senior. Rob Lowe.

[Dana Carvey]

Rob Lowe. Brat Pack.

[David Spade]

Rob Lowe.

[Dana Carvey]

Brat Pack.

[David Spade]

But first, Dana, I. I had an observation.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, good. Okay.

[David Spade]

So what do you do? Like, there's this really nice guy at this place I go to for breakfast and stuff, and he's one of those people that really likes to laugh. Okay, so he'll say something, but it's just perfunctory information, but he'll laugh like, as if it's a joke. And am I supposed to laugh like. Like I walk in, it goes, hey, pal, normally you come earlier.

[Dana Carvey]

That's awesome.

[David Spade]

And then we're leaving. He goes, you know, you should adopt me. I mean, he's the greatest guy with an incredible sense of humor, but it's just informational. I want to give him a joke or something.

[Dana Carvey]

I know. I think the problem is we're comedians. And the same pilot that said when I got on, he saw me, and then he goes, hey, we got our 737 on speaker. Hope our door doesn't fly off. You can't do jokes like that just for me. Because everyone goes, what the fuck? You know, it's not funny to some people. And then when I'm also ordering and if you're a comedian, anything you say, you go, do you guys have eggs here before 10? They go, yeah. What, just. You mean, yeah, just yes is fine.

[David Spade]

He just likes to laugh. I think it's very sweet.

[Dana Carvey]

But I, yeah, I like that he's laughing at everything. That's like you that write lol, what they say.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I mean it's, it's, it's sweet, but I feel like I, I want to give my, like my joke with him is like, hey, where, where's Bob? Because you can't be him because you must be his younger brother. You know, you look so much younger than I when I saw you last time. And it wasn't my best joke, but at least it was somewhat humorous.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, at least some reason to laugh. Like a Q line. Like, here we go. Yeah, I know it's awkward sometimes, but it's still, it's fun sometimes. Like, people text and they go, hey, like I get an offender bender with a guy and he's like, hey, I guess I should get your insurance. Lol. And I'm like, yeah. And he goes, you weren't hurt at all, were you? Lol. I'm like, I don't know where we're stopped joking and it's serious. I don't know what's going on. You can't put LOL on everything.

[David Spade]

Well, laugh out loud used to be a big bar laugh out loud funny before these little memes came in. So most things are slightly humorous. We got it. We got to come up with something, I guess, slightly humorous that doesn't.

[Dana Carvey]

Mh. Minimally humorous.

[David Spade]

Minimally humorous or KF be good kind of funny. Not a put down, but not a compliment.

[Dana Carvey]

But laugh out loud an almost nothing. I made almost no reaction, by the way. No one's making reactions. They're just saying they bother putting R O M L roll on the floor. Laughing my ass. I go, you don't have to go through all those histronics to tell me you're not even laughing at all.

[David Spade]

Well, I don't know. Where were you? Do you remember the first time you realized you could add these little hearts or little pictures, a little dog? Or the first moment you said, hey, wait a minute, I can take this just English language print with all this stuff? I used to put like 50 in there.

[Dana Carvey]

For my age, I spent way too much of a part of my day looking for emojis.

[David Spade]

Maybe that's what they're called, emojis. Emojis.

[Dana Carvey]

I put rol. I put roll on floor, falling on ground, lit on fire with a bear trap on my nuts. That's how hard I laughed.

[David Spade]

Did you just make that up? Yeah. That's pretty good.

[Dana Carvey]

It's not bad, right?

[David Spade]

Usually I think your ad libs are kind of pre planned, you know? Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Heather's holding a note. She scribbles a joke and holds it up. Read it.

[David Spade]

Yeah, but that was that. Actually, it's pretty good.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I'm always looking for where's the parachute? Where's the big rock? Where's the ball of yarn? The. I send people there. You put all your work into this stupid time.

[David Spade]

It's always funny to say what's up face. You know, Just always good, you know, I like that. Or that's good. My pronouns are what's up?

[Dana Carvey]

Those are your pronouns?

[David Spade]

Yeah, that's my pronouns.

[Dana Carvey]

I put. My pronouns are and. I put yarn. And then the alien guy.

[David Spade]

Let's be honest, your pronoun is teal Sweater.

[Dana Carvey]

Dude, everyone's buzzing about this call back. Yeah, it's pretty sweet, but I don't want to overdo it. I don't want to hear it in the comments. I'll block you, by the way. I'll block the out of you. I don't take.

[David Spade]

Have you ever read the comments and then realized the next morning, damn, I cried myself to sleep last night?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, I think we. Overall, I figure that people watch them and do comments as it's going because as the show goes on, it's now it's new subjects they're talking about sitting there. Yeah, they're just like kind of funny. Nah, don't care for that one. And then they're like, teal actually isn't a color of the rainbow.

[David Spade]

I'm just glad they're engaging. That's the thing, you know?

[Dana Carvey]

I guess it's good. Yeah, it is fun to hear the thoughts because I'll read the thoughts. But if they get too out of control and too rough, then you gotta. Because people go, why would you block me? I go, well, I. I'm here to have fun. I don't need someone saying something horribly, crazily negative and threatening or something. You go, obviously, I'll block you.

[David Spade]

I assume it's two high school kids. Let's get the Tommy boy in the Wayne's World guy, man. He goes, shut Up, Brian. I'm typing. Just shut up.

[Dana Carvey]

Tell him literally anyone idea that I get pissed off if I really can't take it. They're like, oh, my God, I'm the biggest fan in the world. Are you, though? And that's what you chose to write? That's what you picked. And you thought that would fly.

[David Spade]

Have anyway posted something critical. No, I'm saying an article. YouTube. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

No, I could. I could imagine saying, I disagree or I don't know what you're doing, but I wouldn't say anything where it would be so rough. This guy in Michigan was writing me saying, I'm gonna bust every bone in your body with a baseball. He was, like, literally threatening to kill me over and over. And I just wanted to. I should have posted it just to say. Because he's in a band and I wanted to say, hey, this is. I'm just posting to show your friends. This is what you do in between band breaks. You've got a psycho behind you on the drums because he's writing all this. There's a. Then you see his pictures. He's at practice. I'm like, quit acting like you're a nice guy, Fish. It's usually like a wedding or something. The girls that send me the dirtiest ones, you go to their page, it's like them at their wedding a week ago. I go.

[David Spade]

I just. The anonymity. Hey, look at that word. Do whatever you want. I mean, I. I feel less alone. I get inspired by the comments if I'm watching a Beetle thing, because, you know, I'm kind of. That's a fanatic. And it's like, John Lennon's in my life or whatever it is. And then the comments are just like, I thought I was the only one. They're just like, oh, these. This band is a miracle.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah, like that. You know, by the way, I swear to God. And it sounds like I'm lying. I was going to dinner. We talk about the Beatles so much, I thought. I've never asked Dana, because you like so many Beatles songs. If you had to love in my life. In my life. Oh, yeah. But we never mention it. But it's a great one. Is it Lenin?

[David Spade]

Places. I remember.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. It was in an old Jodie Foster movie, I think. And I remember hearing it going.

[David Spade]

It's a. You know, the silliness is that John Lennon is like 25, you know, and.

[Dana Carvey]

It'S about his life. He's just a kid.

[David Spade]

Yeah. And, you know, obviously it's the melody and the lyric. Now that is the one Beatle song. Or there might be just a couple where Paul and John remembered it differently. So Paul remembers, you know, there's the middle eight with Lovers and Friends. I went before I love you more the roleplay. So it feels like he was a. A big contributor or an important contributor. Yeah, it's very linen. You know that. That first part is so linen. You know, I don't. There are places I remember, you know, just. But that's one. We're gonna have Paul back on.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh yeah. We're gonna ask Paul to come back on. I want to get Ringo on too. Because when they came out of the gate after the Beatles, I don't think it was John or Paul that had the first hit, was it? I thought Ringo sort of came out big and no one expected it and so did George Harrison. Is that true?

[David Spade]

No.

[Dana Carvey]

Okay.

[David Spade]

But they're. They were.

[Dana Carvey]

Thank God it wasn't Paul. I was saying this bullshit too. I just remember that Ringo I I think would have been the one they wouldn't have expected Ton from. And then he had photograph, which is a fucking killer.

[David Spade]

Oh, that was in the. That was in the. The seventies. He. Ringo had Ringo. A true star. I think it was called. Only 16 big hit albums for sure. But back at the beginning, you know, they had Pete Best and they had to let him go and they. Ringo always was a fan of theirs. Like in Hamburg, Ringo is with Rory and the Hurricanes and he would. He would hang out at the club.

[Dana Carvey]

The fan club in.

[David Spade]

He just liked them.

[Dana Carvey]

And Paul didn't see Selena.

[David Spade]

John would. Would bring the songs to Ringo and George Harrison. In the early days. It goes like this. Goes like this. And then Ringo's genius was picking the perfect drum thing to that song.

[Dana Carvey]

Tom. Tom.

[David Spade]

That. They were like my brothers. They were like my brothers. My brothers.

[Dana Carvey]

Who had the first hit after the. You got balloons. Who had the first hit when the Beatles broke up. Go. Obviously. I don't know.

[David Spade]

The first mega hit was I think on the Run. No, George Harrison's All Things Must Pass, his double album is still the number one selling post Beatle album. And he had a really. My Sweet Lord.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, that was a killer.

[David Spade]

Yeah. McCartney did. Had massive hits and Ringo and John. I mean if you. You look at Dream Number Nine and Imagine and Watching the wheels, you know, Lennon had his stuff. You know, I love that song. I'm just sitting there watching the wheels go round and round.

[Dana Carvey]

No, but Gervitz took me to see Beatles, not Beatles, but a McCartney and Wings killer. I'm sorry, am I rich? We're sitting up close. I'm sorry. Are these good seats?

[David Spade]

Must have been the Wings. Wings broke up in the 80s I think as a band, but the latest incarnation of Paul McCartney's really.

[Dana Carvey]

I couldn't have seen Wings at the beginning.

[David Spade]

I thought this is where people in the comments. I thought Paul McCarten Wings was in. It was banded as a name of a band. But you know.

[Dana Carvey]

Well, I would have been. I can't even say these numbers. It's too embarrassing. But okay, let's do a few stories and I'll leave. Should I do any stories? Yeah. Oh no, we gotta do. Should we just bring out our guest and. And stand it there?

[David Spade]

Yeah. Just so that. Just so people know and more of a tease. Don't. Don't do the laundry right now.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, I don't do the laundry right now.

[David Spade]

We're just going to discuss a little bit the recession that's happening for all the different people at work in Hollywood. Not. Not the movie stars. And so Rob's very. He has some insight into that. He does his hit game show in Ireland for a reason. It's much. You know. You listen to the podcast.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. And I'm going to ask him a real question. Is Bulgaria a real place? Because I always hear that country and I, I gunned in my head. I couldn't find it on a map. Dana, I'm a little bit of a spendy Susie.

[David Spade]

A boozy Suzie and a spendy Susie.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm more of a boozy Susie.

[David Spade]

But Yeah, you are. You are a spendy spender. Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

And a lot of our listeners are nice enough to write in and say you look like you drank a lot and slept on your face. But that's just constructive criticism.

[David Spade]

Well, it's very concise and you don't really drink very much.

[Dana Carvey]

I'll tell the fans, but just puffy. This is where Klarna comes in. Klarna is your everyday smarter spending partner. Which is what a lot of people need. A lot of my friends definitely need it. It allows you to make smarter decisions with your money and it's sometimes good to have a partner like that.

[David Spade]

And I'll say it again. Klarna, which I assume is Swedish. Klarna is your smarter everyday spending partner.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

That's right. Here's some key takeaways. Listen up, brother. Klarna offers a pay in for product where you don't have to pay interest. I think that's a good thing.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

They do.

[David Spade]

I'm just going to say it. It's a Klarna summer.

[Dana Carvey]

All right, Dana, we're going to talk about a couple things here.

[David Spade]

This is a little serious.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. We're adults.

[David Spade]

We're adults in the room.

[Dana Carvey]

And if you're a dude and you're an adult, if you're over the age of 12, you might have 18. 18.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, yeah, I get you.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

David, there's no more. Hey, Doctor, Having a little problem with the pup tent. It's not going up.

[David Spade]

How many you find? Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[C]

It's my Princess Leia headphones.

[David Spade]

Can we promote your podcast right now? You have three of them right now.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

We better be promoting it. I mean, let's, you know.

[David Spade]

Literally. Which is in season 11.

[Dana Carvey]

Oh, yeah. We also have the same manager. We always talk about garbage. Got to get the money. Rob Lowe likes money. You don't like money.

[David Spade]

I was just on the phone with him.

[C]

I said, I gotta go. Go. You know, go help team. Team Grifitz with the two star clients. Call me right back.

[David Spade]

You are the. You're the star client because you're. You're a hard worker. We like to take naps and take months off at a time. You actually work.

[C]

I, I, I.

[Dana Carvey]

What is it?

[C]

He. Rob Low, he always made. He always made money for his partners.

[Dana Carvey]

Likes money. Yeah. Rob Low, he always tells me, I could tell Rob Lowe, and he'd say, yes, right now. You don't like to do anything. He. You hate money.

[David Spade]

Yeah, I guess you just don't like money.

[Dana Carvey]

Just Rob, I just did a thing. I ran into Shaquille O'Neal, and he goes, I don't know if I like that sweater you got on. I go, this is teal, man. It's for real. And. And teal's a very expensive color. I try to trick him, and he goes, man, you walk around trying to look like Rob Lowe.

[David Spade]

Why would.

[Dana Carvey]

Way.

[David Spade]

Why would.

[Dana Carvey]

For real.

[C]

Oh, that's so.

[Dana Carvey]

Isn't that funny?

[David Spade]

The last thing I saw, Robbie's running on the beach with his shirt off. Because, of course, I go on Daily Mail because I'm addicted to the. Sure.

[C]

You got it.

[David Spade]

To the madness. And it's not. You don't look average. You don't look normal.

[Dana Carvey]

No, you look.

[David Spade]

You're looking good.

[Dana Carvey]

He's. He goes, that Tom Cruise, like, whatever that is Tom Cruise.

[David Spade]

I. I love Tom Cruise. The guy's brilliant. But he doesn't take his shirt off anymore, does he, in movies?

[Dana Carvey]

No, because he's smart.

[C]

I. I took a lot of. Like.

[Dana Carvey]

I was like.

[C]

You did? Really? God damn it. I'm like, I. I would. You know, it's like I said, frame it correctly. Like, there's. There's a certain level with which the framing reveals, you know, that I'm in my third trimester.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[C]

That I'm, you know, of life or.

[Dana Carvey]

Your pregnancy of my donut belly.

[David Spade]

You were coming right at the camera. Side angles are the worst. You can look in the mirror and look at yourself and go, damn. Then go side angle.

[Dana Carvey]

Whoops.

[David Spade]

That's where all the sins are.

[C]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, Tom Cruise runs with his hands straight up and down like this for less wind resistance in case he.

[David Spade]

Has to crush somebody.

[Dana Carvey]

And he usually runs for about roughly 15 to 20 minutes through every movie in a full sprint, every take.

[C]

Yep.

[Dana Carvey]

I'm like, okay.

[David Spade]

Well, I want to ask Rob. He knows his way around the movie business.

[Dana Carvey]

And I have a question for.

[David Spade]

Because I would say if I ran into Tom, I'd say the most impressive thing, if it's real, is not hanging off the airplane. It's sprinting with that kind of authority at 60 something. Because the hip flexors. So do you think they do slightly beat it up a little bit?

[C]

No. I was. Tom and I. I think both. I think I could be wrong, but I think we both initially learned to run from Emilio Estevez's running coach. There's a guy named.

[Dana Carvey]

I like how you're the only one that calls him Estevez for the Outsiders.

[David Spade]

What movie was this?

[C]

This was. It would have been post Outsiders, and it was a guy named Milan Tiff, and he won the triple jump.

[David Spade]

Okay.

[C]

And the. He was in the 1968. Famous 1968American Olympic team.

[David Spade]

You know, city where Bob. He went 29 2.

[Dana Carvey]

Bob, beaming, set the record.

[David Spade]

I guess the triple jump may also have been a world record or close.

[C]

Yeah. I'm not sure if he won there, but he was on that team. And then. And anyway, we were all training with Milan, and he was a big. The hand thing was the big thing. And then you also make it a flap, by the way. There's this. And then you make it like. You make it a little flap down.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Hey, what about this Breakfast Club reunion? Why don't you guys have an Outsiders reunion?

[C]

Well, we're. Do you know we're doing St. Elmo's Fire Part 2. We are going to do what?

[David Spade]

What? Oh, we just trended. Thank you. Thank you.

[Dana Carvey]

No, you are St. Elmer's Fud.

[David Spade]

And everyone's coming back for.

[C]

Everybody's coming back. I mean, we got to get the script right? I mean, you know, we've all been there for that one.

[David Spade]

Have you got a draft that you read and said, no.

[C]

No draft yet. It's due any day.

[David Spade]

You were never really a Brett Pack guy, per se. Right. Because you had too many other things going on. I don't. I don't consider you part of it, but you crossed over with it. Or were you?

[C]

I mean, I think I. I mean, I know this. That I'm. I'm on the COVID of that New York magazine article that coined the Brat Pack.

[David Spade]

Okay, so then you were part of that. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

As much as I would like to deny it, but you know what I like, I. I think it's cool. But having a totally. A name, that's great.

[David Spade]

Those were great movies. John Hughes movies and great movies.

[Dana Carvey]

Hooky name for your club mayor Winningham Ali Sheedy.

[David Spade]

She's a great actress. Ali. She.

[Dana Carvey]

I know it all, you know?

[C]

You know?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Now that's good. But did you see this Breakfast Club? That was kind of cool.

[C]

It was great. It was so cool to see them on stage. I haven't been able to see or find the entirety of the interview. I've only seen the clips. But it was super, super sweet to see everybody together and hear them talk about the movie.

[Dana Carvey]

It's Eclipse World. Which one of those, if any, have blocked you? Go ahead.

[C]

All of them.

[David Spade]

Anthony Michael hall has blocked you. That I find hard.

[Dana Carvey]

He is a nice dude.

[David Spade]

Did you have him on, literally? We had him on Fly.

[C]

I did. He was great. He was. He was great. He.

[David Spade]

And charming. Smart. Yep.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[C]

Great actor. Always was a great actor. He's amazing in that movie. Breakfast Club for me is the best of that moment in time.

[David Spade]

That was.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, that movie holds up very cool.

[David Spade]

Idea that I guess of the 80s perfectly. Yeah, that was the one.

[Dana Carvey]

If you had teacher Paul Gleason was great.

[C]

Amazing.

[Dana Carvey]

I can grab some wood, bub.

[David Spade]

Wow. They don't make movies like that anymore.

[Dana Carvey]

I don't like it, dog.

[C]

How about they don't? How do you like that?

[Dana Carvey]

I'll sign you up for a movie like that. You want to do a movie? Sorry, go back into Gervitz. All right. Now, Rob, we were going to talk to you a little bit about the state of the state because. Nothing too heavy because we're all a bunch of idiots. We literally don't know what started with.

[David Spade]

His comment about the floor. Sorry to interject, but that was interesting.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah, right.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

The floor is shot on Mars with the space origin.

[C]

It's easier for us to shoot on the outer rings of Mars.

[Dana Carvey]

No, it turns out that that's less.

[C]

Cost prohibitive than shooting it in Los Angeles.

[Dana Carvey]

You know, I will tell you this, Rob, just to for sure interrupt you. Yes, Well, I did a game show, which. Those game shows are kind of interesting because they can always come back out.

[David Spade]

Snake Eyes.

[Dana Carvey]

Snoikoil. Don't. No, don't do that. Snake oil.

[C]

And you know, David, the thing is, you need to be careful when you wear a hat on a. On the. The one sheet.

[Dana Carvey]

Is that. Is that a Lauren thing?

[C]

It should be, because it's true. I saw you in. In the Straw Hat Boater and I.

[Dana Carvey]

Thought, oh, that's right. I had a straw hat going. Snake oil.

[C]

Riverboat gambler, maybe. I'm not sure.

[David Spade]

You know, it's the hat and cane thing.

[Dana Carvey]

It's.

[David Spade]

It's very stubby. K. It's very early.

[C]

It's fine if you're Hugh Jackman and you're in the Music man, but if.

[David Spade]

You'Re right, this is your best man.

[Dana Carvey]

Lauren.

[David Spade]

I haven't heard you do it in a while.

[Dana Carvey]

It's a good one. It's actually admonishing me for my poster.

[David Spade]

Yeah, but. But yeah, was. That's where. Because it fits Lauren's rhythm to you, Jackman. You know, it's.

[Dana Carvey]

Unless you're tap dance Jackman.

[C]

But I think what you'll find is you're not you.

[David Spade]

You don't want to be Clue Gallagher before 1960. So only Rob knows who C.L.

[Dana Carvey]

Gallagher. I do not know who that is. I like the idea.

[David Spade]

How does Tarantino do it? He gets these guys from nowhere. He puts Clue Gallagher. And I don't know if it was once upon a time, but whatever. But anyway, it was once upon a time.

[C]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

My story was so rudely. Rudely made fun of it.

[David Spade]

It's your turn.

[Dana Carvey]

It's not really any story. It's kind of like Rob's. The funny thing about that was we met one night to talk about doing the game show. First of all, these guys are all great, except Fox. And then they said, you know, we talked about what it would be and it's sort of kind of interesting idea. And they go, we do it in la, which is not that hard. I was like, great. So the next day we go to make the deal. And Gervitz goes, okay, here's the deal. Points. And you shoot it in Ireland. I go, wait, this wasn't even 24 hours later. It's been. Already been moved to Ireland.

[David Spade]

So the joke was, you're hoping Tarzana.

[Dana Carvey]

Like what Rob said is that they just said, well, it's. It's cheaper. And the bigger picture here is I get a lot of complaints and a lot of concerns. Of course, we've got a lot of talented makeup people here. We've got a lot of union guys. Why aren't we doing more here? And it's really a big problem that everyone kind of skim jobs over, but it's a problem and people are leaving town.

[David Spade]

This is what I am here for.

[C]

I've been able to a number of times say, if I'm doing it, I'm going to do it only in LA. I did that with 911. Lone Star that was going to move to. It was going to be in where it took place in Texas. It was going to be in Austin.

[Dana Carvey]

Sure.

[C]

And I was able to keep that production.

[Dana Carvey]

That's unreal.

[David Spade]

Five seasons, right?

[C]

Five seasons. I was. I turned down an amazing series that was going to shoot in New York. I asked them to move that to la and they couldn't do it, so they just didn't make it at all. And because I have. We know those people that make the make the movie business work. The technicians, the grips, the electrics, the drivers, the caterers.

[Dana Carvey]

We all moved here for one reason. Everyone's here because it's Hollywood. It's Tinseltown and we're losing that. And we can't just have high taxes and crime. You got to have something to offset it. And it's like, oh, it's Hollywood. We make movies. We got to be here. And it's hard to keep arguing that when they keep going, we got to make it, incentivize it.

[David Spade]

Right.

[C]

And listen, it's not like California is gun shy about throwing money at people.

[Dana Carvey]

No shit.

[C]

My favorite is the way they draw the line here.

[Dana Carvey]

Exactly.

[C]

We'll throw money at every class of person that's ever been invented. But when it comes to the people that make Hollywood go, that's the famous thing about the country. I think they're going to have to prove their right.

[Dana Carvey]

Here's 20 billion for homeless. Actually, we lost, but it's somewhere. And then they go, hollywood, you're going to get 750 million. Aren't you excited? I'm like, for the whole fuck we can't have a B in front of it. Nothing. That's like four shows. You do one Avatar, that's 400 million.

[C]

Well, and also, you don't know if you're gonna get it. That's the other thing. It's. That's really the other thing because you. You can't even. What are you gonna do to go into casting, pre production, all of that stuff? Hoping you literally. Hoping you literally actually win the lottery. And it is.

[Dana Carvey]

It's a lot. It is, yes.

[C]

It's been. It's bananas. It's like. I mean, look, hey, don't get me started on the state of the state.

[Dana Carvey]

This is the idea.

[David Spade]

What are the. There is one metric that. That is a little a sidestep. I read about that. The cost of living in la, you know, for all the people we're talking about, a basic home is about a million bucks in Los Angeles County.

[C]

I believe that.

[David Spade]

And so that's another driver of people kind of going, I don't know if actually all these people who make movies, the grips, the cruise, everything, whether they're moving out of state because, well, there's more production in Atlanta, so I'll just, I'll step outside that thing. But Austin, it has to be a cause celebrity. It would have to be someone taking it on and funding it. That we have to at least match the incentives.

[Dana Carvey]

Sure.

[David Spade]

Which. There is a bill and TSM status.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. Even if it's a push.

[C]

Yeah, there's a bill. There's a bill now that apparently is going to be really, really helpful. My understanding of it, and I haven't. I haven't read the bill itself, but my understanding of it is that it would make California at least on par with New York.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

New York does more than us. Right.

[C]

Right now. Oh, God, yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Because I never hear any. I hear Boston a lot. I hear New Orleans, I hear Austin.

[C]

I just.

[Dana Carvey]

A lot where they're making it very easy.

[David Spade]

And then there's also things like this.

[C]

Is where, you know, there's a. There's. There's enough blame to go around equal. And look, I'm. I'm a believe the Iatse crew are the greatest artisans and technicians in the world. But the unions, I think, also have to come to play ball. I just saw a study of a movie that was. Granted, I don't know how long the shooting schedule would have been for because that would affect the number, but their number for their grip department, which, for those of you who don't know, the. The grips are the people that build the sets, move the walls, do all the construction. The budget was $59,000 for Run of the movie in Hungary. In LA, it's $59,000 for the key grip, so.

[David Spade]

And how many grips? Average? Yeah, I mean, 10.

[C]

You can. You can see why. You know, if your goal is to get your movie made, your goal is to get your movie made, right?

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah. I. We did a small movie, Busboys, that Theo and I wrote, and we. I asked, said, can we do it in L. A? And Theo was nice enough to say, because he's. He's out in Nashville, spends a lot of time in Austin. And we were talking about Austin. Then I said, is there any way we can do it here? I know it's just a drop in the bucket. It's a small movie, but just the idea. We're doing it here. And selfishly, I like it here, but it's also like, I can't. I got to practice what I preach. I got to try. Some movies are set other places, and it's hard to cheat, but it's hard to cheat Hawaii if you're in la, you know, whatever. But we did it here. And every single person in that crew is coming up going, I love that you guys are doing it here. I love. Because we have nothing. We just. It's. Everyone's scraping by, and I think we're not here to really complain and bitch about everything. We're just trying to say, people should just know about this. And I don't even know the easy fix. There's no easy fix. But it's Hollywood.

[C]

The other thing I would add. I would add is we're going to be fine. We, you know, it's. Sure we have the ability to go to different places and do things like that, and we fight to keep it in la. And sometimes we have the weight to do it, other times we don't. And these subsidies don't go to the stars. They're not subsidizing you or me or what they are subsidizing are the working men and women that make this industry work. And I think that there can be a misconception. It's like all these very famous actors are getting subsidized. It's not us that are getting subsidized. It's the people that need it. The people are getting crushed.

[David Spade]

I think 18,000 jobs have been lost in the last few years. We had the pandemic, and then we had sort of a recession, and we had the strikes, and I don't have enough information to Know the input of that, whether some of the studios said, okay, we get that, we'll just go to London, we'll go to Ireland. So it is very complex. But those are the people we're talking about who laid down roots in la, have worked here for maybe multiple generations, and the work is really dried up. It's a severe recession in the interior of that business. I mean, studios have never been this. Actual physical studios are just sitting there. So we, you know, we want to keep it and we want to do it in the smart way. But I. If Rob wants to run for May or next time, the cycle's up, you know, Karen Bass is, you know, she's doing fine, but I. I think that I would. I would support.

[Dana Carvey]

He hasn't read this bill, so it'll fit right in great.

[C]

I'm already happy. I haven't read what's in it, but I like it.

[Dana Carvey]

I love it. Yeah, I'm with you guys. Like, the three of us don't get affected as much. Even busboys we funded ourselves, so it was a little more, but at that level, it wasn't that much more. But when you get these budgets that are, you know, 50 million, obviously these movies are getting bigger and bigger and 50, 100 million.

[C]

Competitive threshold is 30%. You can get 30% of your book back.

[Dana Carvey]

It's that high. Wow.

[David Spade]

Yes, that's.

[C]

That's sort of the stand. That's. That's, you know, basically Atlanta, England, Hungary, Canada. And look, it fluctuates a little bit. Sometimes it's a little bit less, sometimes a little bit more. My favorite is now is, hey, you're gonna go shoot it in Toronto. And then you get to Toronto and they go, well, actually, you're shooting it in Hamilton.

[David Spade]

That's the new Toronto.

[C]

There's no Hamilton is the new Toronto. Because there's even more money to be picked, more nickels lying under the maples up there in hamilton. Because you're 60 miles outside of Toronto. So even Toronto's not good enough now. I mean, the bean counters finally have their way with us. We literally will be shooting in space.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

Yeah, I think when you're trying to hire someone, there's a lot of different things you're looking for, but you want them to kind of have your, your esthetic, your sensibility. If you were, you could look up those words. David.

[Dana Carvey]

Sure.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

Oh, absolutely.

[Dana Carvey]

You know what I mean?

[David Spade]

That's a great.

[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

Very believable. You know if I'm, if you want to learn something about pretty much anything, you just go on on there and look around and say it doesn't have to be about movies or anything like stupid stuff we do. But you know, you can say I want to learn how to do this.

[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

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[David Spade]

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[Dana Carvey]

Okay, so that's right on actors, on GR and on housing. I mean I, I think I forgot. Well the other also, also what it does. Oh Rob, this is what I was going to say. Sorry.

[David Spade]

Yeah.

[Dana Carvey]

Is that it? The benefits are, let's say you're doing it in Boston. We did grown ups out there. The benefits are there's a tax break for the city, which they have to cover. But all. Everybody comes to stay in their hotels, they make money, everyone goes to eat every night, they make money. You're going around the city, you're buying groceries. Everything is being helped in that city. And that's the idea to get you there. And then you see the city. Maybe you want to move there one day. So all that is a plus. So that's kind of how they rationalize it. But here we have so many facilities and so many ways to make a movie, make it really, really easy, and then it just starts to dry out. And I'm not going to say it's fully gone, but it is, it is.

[David Spade]

A red alert in distress. I mean, we, it is our tax base. It, it creates a lot of revenue and it is global fame. It's a global attraction. Although, you know, I mean, the Hollywood side is still there. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But the ecosystem of it, you know, the car wash that goes out of business, the, the, the smaller restaurants, the catering companies that go out. Yeah, it trickles down that people don't really understand. They, they think Hollywood and they think stars. And it really isn't about that. It truly isn't. Because like I said, we'll always get the phone call to go somewhere. But, you know, my, my guy that does all the wardrobe for my show or who does, you know, does all the lighting. Yeah. That phone is not ringing. And they got kids in school and it's brutal. It's brutal.

[David Spade]

Yeah. So something will be done because it has to be done. And. Oh, who could, who could be listening to this podcast?

[Dana Carvey]

Governor, who can do something new?

[C]

What are your analytics like on this podcast? Who, who's, who's listening? Who's in that?

[David Spade]

Like, sample single women under 25. No, it's a mature audience. People who vote and pay taxes. And, you know, I'd say no, we.

[Dana Carvey]

Have a, we have a pretty older crowd. It's probably split down the middle, men and women. And.

[C]

All seriousness, since we're doing it, if you're listening to this in California and you're so inclined, pick up the phone and call your congressman. Or more importantly, it would be your state, your state representative, because right now it's a state issue. So call your state representative. Really? Seriously, just email them, drop them a line. That, that really moves the needle. People always think, oh, well, I'm just one person. But, you know, they, you know, I was on, I, I was on a show called the West Wing, and I learned a little bit about politics and they have a metric. It's probably changed in the 25 years but if one person phone calls, they look at it mathematically that that means that is the way that at least 10 other people are feeling who didn't fall.

[Dana Carvey]

Makes sense. Yeah. Well what about the governor? Is that another. Is that a place to start too?

[C]

Yeah, it seems like, it seems like he's on board with this now, but he's going to need the votes. That's my understanding. So I think we, I think the governor is on board. It's. But we're going to need the votes. I've seen like I said, I think there are people that don't want to help Hollywood even in California. I mean Hollywood does a great job sometimes of stepping in it and making us all look like buffoons and sometimes it comes back upon us. And I think that there are people that don't want to throw a lifeline to what they consider Hollywood frivolous.

[David Spade]

Yeah. It has a bad image, doesn't it?

[C]

Listen, you watch, you watch enough award shows and I can understand these pampered.

[David Spade]

Self righteous clueless moron Ricky Gervais said it all at the his famous.

[C]

So good. Oh my God.

[David Spade]

One of the great and funniest moments you could ever see on a YouTube clip. I could never. It's not. Love it. Thank you God. And off. You know nothing. You've been nowhere.

[Dana Carvey]

You know nothing.

[C]

You've seen nothing. You people tell you what to say, they tell you where to go, they tell you what to wear. Don't tell us anything about anything.

[David Spade]

So get your little award. Thank you God. And off.

[C]

Amazing.

[Dana Carvey]

I love him. Well maybe we'll let Rob go because very nice to jump on and talk to us.

[David Spade]

Rob.

[Dana Carvey]

We miss you.

[David Spade]

Just quickly anything else. I mean you always have so much going on. Don't you do other. Another podcast. No. Whatever.

[C]

Seven things literally is is going strong. I'm loving doing it. Get it wherever you get your podcast. I started really paying attention to filming it like you guys do which is a bummer because now I have to make sure my toupee is. Oh I mean I meant what I met my hair.

[Dana Carvey]

Please give you my guy.

[David Spade]

You're the one who said the best hair in Hollywood in history. Who has it? Well, I think I, I thought it was Richard Gere but you said it was someone else something O'Brien I think I don't know. Maybe I'm transposing different Conan.

[C]

Conan's hair is pretty good.

[David Spade]

Conan's hair on the Oscars was amazing.

[C]

That's my hair. That's my hair, girl.

[David Spade]

Oh, she did a great job on it.

[Dana Carvey]

I like, on one specific thing, he.

[David Spade]

Was great on the Oscars. Sometimes on his podcast, it's not his best day, but he's always great. But he was great on the Oscars.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[C]

I love him. He's.

[David Spade]

You always have.

[C]

You always have.

[Dana Carvey]

Look at. Mine's not too bad today. They get mad when I say I look at my hair, but Dane and I were arguing that when you're in here, my face looks all. All bright from the goddamn light in my eyes. And then the hair. But the hair's got a little flip to it. Yeah. Rob has such good hair. He covers it up. He doesn't give a. And I'm like, if I had that hair, I would never put a hat on again.

[C]

That's. That's a great irony is, is I. I've got good hair, but I do like my. Well, when the Dodgers win the World Series, I got a sport now.

[Dana Carvey]

They got a good. They got a good chance, dude.

[David Spade]

They're. They're pretty.

[Dana Carvey]

Didn't you have the. The hat that said NFL on it or something?

[C]

Just go teams.

[Dana Carvey]

It's actually funny. Go teams, go teams.

[C]

I want everybody to win.

[David Spade]

We did.

[Dana Carvey]

We did one movie up in Toronto, but we were pretty much in Toronto. I did, too, in Toronto.

[David Spade]

It was a Tommy Boy story.

[Dana Carvey]

Tommy Boy was in Toronto.

[C]

And I'll tell you another thing. All of the Brat pack movies you talk about, all of those. All John Hughes movies were in Chicago. They were in Chicago. Yes. There were tax breaks. There's always been tax breaks. This is not a new thing.

[Dana Carvey]

No.

[C]

It's gotten way, way, way, way, way out of control.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Global thing now.

[C]

But there was a thing where everybody. Everything shot in Chicago for. In the 80s, but it wasn't. For every one movie that shot in Chicago, there were still five or 10 shooting.

[Dana Carvey]

There's a Chicago backdrop, too, to some of those blues brothers out there. Yeah.

[C]

John Hughes lived there.

[Dana Carvey]

He was there.

[C]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

I have one question before we let you go. Do you literally. No pun intended, or whatever, does the show the floor, take a hundred Americans and put them up in Dublin or where. So you import this audience, obviously, they don't have Irish accents when they win or they come up. And that's still cheaper to bring a hundred people and put them up.

[C]

Yes. And. And listen, Gordon Ramsay did all the. All his Master Chef stuff was in Ireland for years. Some of it still is. But you would be, I think. I think beat. Shazam. I Mean, it's. It's. Right now. They do it. First of all, they do it very, very well. They know what they're doing.

[Dana Carvey]

Sure.

[C]

Top of their class. The experience is great, and I love it. But at the end of the day, you know, I would like to, you know, keep our. Our industry alive if we could. But at the. Listen, these companies have a fiduciary responsibility. They're not in the charity business.

[Dana Carvey]

They never will be.

[C]

They never were. And, you know, I. I get why they. Why they flee California, by the way. All business.

[David Spade]

Well, all businesses.

[C]

California makes it impossible.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Makes it impossible to do successful business. You're chasing sort of on the enemy's list. We don't. They don't like that.

[C]

Yes. 100.

[David Spade]

And how do we squash it?

[C]

I tell you what you do. Nobody changes until they're in enough pain.

[Dana Carvey]

Right.

[C]

Whether you're. Whatever your thing is in your life, change is hard. A lot of times it makes. Requires tough choices, facing truths you don't want to face. Whatever it is. And it takes being in enough pain to do it. Maybe our industry, and California in particular, is in enough pain to finally make some changes to what is unsustainable. Absolutely unsustainable.

[David Spade]

Absolutely. And just compete in the free market. You know, we've got places to compete. Let's. Let's keep stacking.

[Dana Carvey]

Whatever they're doing, we should do like, let's make an even playing field.

[David Spade]

When Chuck Chaplin, when Chucky Chap.

[Dana Carvey]

Yeah.

[David Spade]

Chaz came to LA and in the Hollywood Renaissance there and Buster Keaton, they like the weather light. Likes, you know, I mean, those are romantic times, but we just have to compete. I know we can. And I want to thank you both for being on Dana today. This is a sub podcast we have now. Let's start the Superfly.

[Dana Carvey]

Thanks for being on David and Kelly. Thanks, Rob. Great to see you, bud. If you have no straw hats, I got the message. This is all about telling me no straw hats.

[C]

No. The cane was really the bridge too far.

[Dana Carvey]

I mean, they say hold it for one picture out of a thousand. They only need one. I literally was like, I'll hold this for two seconds. Like, we'll never use it. We'll never use it.

[C]

If you were driving down the Fox lot and you see that huge.

[Dana Carvey]

You're like, hey, is that Jiminy Cricket?

[C]

Was that also, was there a chicken in the background?

[Dana Carvey]

Nice try, Rob. Let's not make it worse than it was. There was no chicken.

[David Spade]

I think there was a farm animal.

[Dana Carvey]

I said no to the chicken. I think.

[C]

Okay. I'm just saying, if you're listening to.

[Dana Carvey]

This podcast, please Google now.

[C]

Spade. Snake oil.

[David Spade]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lauren had a whole dinner.

[Dana Carvey]

I'll give you that one. I'll give you that.

[David Spade]

Oh, it's a killer.

[C]

You know, David, the other thing is Barbershop quartet is a line.

[Dana Carvey]

It doesn't scream comedy, it sings it. Okay, that's enough out of Rob. I'm now getting mad Bob. Okay, thanks.

[David Spade]

Whatever you're going to do.

[C]

Bye, crazy man.

[Dana Carvey]

This has been a presentation of Odyssey Super Fly. It's executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade. Jenna Weiss Berman of Odyssey, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman. Hope you liked it.