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Really?
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This is what they call a saucer. You put your coffee cup on it so it doesn't spill all over your illegitimate children, you animals. I think people got a little turned off by that. The guy from Euphoria called me. Sam Levinson called me over the summer and said, there's a scene we want you to do where Hunter, you're a sugar daddy and you're paying Hunter Schaefer. And Hunter Schaefer has you on a leash and you're walking around the floor like a dog. You're going to have an army of morbidly obese, heavily medicated Disney adults. And that's just what we've got. That's what we've built in this country.
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Frontline.
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That's our front line. Just 48 year olds dosed with Prozac, dressed like toddlers with Mickey Mouse backpacks running.
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Well, we had a real firecracker, Dana.
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You predicted it. And then we did it. Tim Dillon.
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Oh, boy. Tim Dillon. Who? Such a funny podcast, such a hilarious dude. Always has opinions. He was on Lights Out. We talked about that. Which is this show. That's where I met him. And then we made him have a little special segment on there. And he just couldn't give a. He makes fun of everybody. Everything. Both political sides. We talk about so many things and he. He's a great riffaholic.
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Yeah, I mean, I really enjoy. At a certain point, I was just like, okay, just feed him something and then he'll go on a rant. Kind of remind me of Dennis Miller and Rush Limbaugh. Had a baby or something. You know, it's like this high energy and he never says. He never says no. Whatever you say to him, he starts running with it right away and it's dripping sarcasm. But ultimately it's always just going for the laugh.
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It's always funny, almost always offensive, always hilarious.
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Offensive and funny.
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And like you said, you said it well. He's got good word packages. Like to, to talk quickly on a subject. We're just throwing him, and then he puts it together in a nice little package. It's pretty smart. I mean, it's hard to do.
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It is. He's. Yeah. It was very, very fun to listen.
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And I'm saying, shit, I shouldn't because we're just getting caught up in, like, how funny it is to just make fun of everything and to just say whatever comes to mind and be like. It's all comedy. But anyway, here he is, Tim Dillon, one of our new favorites on here.
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Oh, me man. So I'm the only guy hatless. Yeah.
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How are we? Good morning, Tim.
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I almost bought you. I saw these big shades when I was on the road at some store on the road. I was like, these. I should get these for Tim.
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But you should have.
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It would kill me to buy him something and be a good friend.
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No, I know. It's. It's. It's good to hear about that. You thought of it, though.
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It's thought.
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That's really the thought that counts. That's right. I think that's the most important thing.
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Instead of that, I spent my money on zingers.
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Where were you?
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I was just back in the Virginia run.
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The Covenant. The Virginia run.
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Yeah. It's just like all these towns and then you go. I was actually. Dana, you'd be excited about this. Tim will be bored of tears already. Duke was playing in Norfolk the night I played, and then the next night I went. They were playing Yukon in that city in the building next to me.
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Did that hurt your ticket sales or what's.
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What's the cat now? It made him better spillover. Tim. He's like, can you go to 7 11, grab a big Gulp?
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I just. I just pointed at someone. I said, coffee, please. This is early, guys. For me. This is really.
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I would have done it later. I just thought, no, this.
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Okay, I'm. I am up and at him. I. I'm just. I like the mornings to record, you
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know, Tim is a friend of mine, Dana. I'll give you a brief history. Saw him on lights out because Adam told him. Told me he's funny because I don't go comedians. And then he came on. He's very funny. Said something very inflammatory, of course, immediately. And I was like, oh, we got a live wire here. And remember that, Tim?
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Yes, I remember. It was a. It was a big moment. I enjoyed that, by the way. I loved doing that show.
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Yeah, that show's built for you. Because he just comes on, he knows a little about everything. So you give many subject. He starts talking. And then we. We did it a few times. And then after that, Covet hit. No one's blaming Tim, but no one's not blaming him, of course. And then we started having, like, dinners and hanging out. It was fun. So then he went off and did whatever.
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Well, the legacy is as follows. And there's probably more. Right, so where was Tim in stardom? Or N. Mickey or Theo when you put them on Lights out and what compared to where they are now?
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You know, what's funny is Theo is a bit of a unicorn in the way that he handles all of showbiz decisions. And he. We were getting to be friends, but he said, I don't think I'd be good at lights out. And then he came on maybe once. Heather, I think, came on once. But it wasn't right for him. It's perfect for Tim. It's perfect for Nikki, and. And. And then we all got to be friends. And then Tim has a special called. What is it called? On Netflix? I'm your mother.
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I forget. I'm your mother. Yeah, it came out last April. I forgot. Everything moves so quickly now. I do forget. But, yeah, it's on Netflix. And I love doing that show. We did a. We did a special little thing on Lights out where I came in.
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Oh, that's right.
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Right. We had a little segment. You gave me a segment. This was amazing. I just moved to LA and I got like a little segment on Lights out. It was. It was a lot of fun. And we love Adam, obviously. He's the best. Adam Ego. And I missed that show. I think there needs to be a show like that, where you come in, you do quick, funny, topical stuff, and then every week you got to write new stuff.
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Right.
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You know, that's a great thing.
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It's a good reason. And some of it's a little undercooked when you get out there, like my own stuff. But at least you're talking about things that are new and then sometimes you stumble into a bit. It's good.
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Well, well, one other important observation about that, because I did a few times, too, just the fing shui. No band, maybe 70 people, 80 people. Felt very intimate and very good. When you're out there, like it was close to you, some studios are kind of distant. Too much razzmatazz. Anyway, Tim, comment.
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And then you'd be on the show with comedians you didn't really like. And that was good, too, because you go, these people, we don't really like each other. And we kind of, you know, say things about each other on social media, subliminally, of course, but they're here and we got to make the best of it. Let's do a fun kind of topical joke about, you know, some woman who disappeared in the Midwest or whatever we were going on about, you know, whatever. Whatever the news of the day was, dude, what.
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By the way, I have a question for Tim and tell him if you disagree, when Bad Bunny, which I know you have opinions about.
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Sure.
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He sang it.
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Get him out of here. No, I'm kidding.
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A lot of people don't remember Bad Bunny sang at the super bowl and at the halftime show. I thought, he's bringing out people. I thought what? Everyone thought, what if he brings Savannah Guthrie's mom out? That would have been such a smart. Huge, huge. And he doesn't like clicks because it would have. And she's like, yo, yo. Like, oh, my God, she's part of it. She's in on it. And that would have crushed. They wouldn't watch the rest of the game.
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That's the type of joke on lights out. The writers would say to you, I don't know if it's worth bringing up his mother. And then you'd have to talk it out with them. You'd go, I think it is worth it. They'll get it. The audience will get it.
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It's not worth it for me. It's worth it for you. Because the first time he came on, he goes, oh. And then we're going to commercial. He goes, oh. And quickly, when we come back, let's talk about Caitlyn Jenner is a murderer. And we go, oh, all right. Well, let's hear from our sponsor, McDonald's, and we'll be right back.
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How many episodes were created of that show?
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I know what you. 150. And Tim did a lot of. What was. What was your job when you came and sat and talked to it?
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I. When I did that segment, I was giving some kind of advice. I was like a consultant. And I think that you had hired me.
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Yeah.
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Bag was the bit. Was that you. That lights out. It hired me as some type of, like, consultant or something.
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Yeah, Like PR rep. Something was idea.
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So the majority of it was finding a jacket that fit. And then. So a woman would just come. Like a black. Yeah. So blackguard looking. Like women would come with one jacket. And I didn't know. And then she'd go, okay. And then she'd go to the other costume woman. They'd find another jacket. They discussed. They would talk. You would see them talking in the hall, holding both jackets. But then we eventually got it in the can. And that's important to. Really?
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Yeah. But I heard them in the hall going, what's a funnier jacket? I was worried about what's funny. Yeah, it's like, this one's not funny enough. I'm like, I think just get a hoodie and he'll be fine.
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Yeah, the. Those, those. We. We need things like that back, you know, And I feel bad. Savannah Guthrie, by the way, now going back to work.
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Yeah. Who's happy about that, Hoda?
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Everybody needs money. I guess I would. If I were her, I would take a sabbatical. But it is, It. It's tough. I guess she feels better going back to the job.
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I would go back because I would. Is too much thinking in your day of just being alone. Like point for her to go on the news and just be around the police. I can't even imagine that scenario.
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So you think it's a little traumatizing for her to have to go breaking news every five seconds and it's never what she wants it to be.
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Yes.
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You know what I mean, it does seem a little crazy.
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She has to.
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And we have breaking news and everybody goes, what? And then she goes, chapel Ron punched a kid or something like every. It's not what it. She wants it to be. You know, it's never like mommy's home. It's never that. It's always, you know, well, how and how, when.
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How do they get away with it? I mean, we agree she was abducted, but with the cameras and forensic. Was it Keystone cops? I mean, Barney Fife was in charge of the investigation or what?
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Anyway, it seems like the family is involved in some sort. I haven't followed.
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We're gonna go to a commercial.
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That's right. I want your opinion on this. Yeah. Because Meghan Markle used to be. We talk about lights out. And she was lovely young lady. She was on Suits and then she skyrocketed to fame. But I always thought when Suits came back, things were a little iffy in the. Are they the Duke and Duchess anymore? Are they. How much full they have? I thought she should have joined Suits and been an actress again and made big money.
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For sure.
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She likes acting, right? Do you think she should go?
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She's passed. Well, so you're talking about Suits la, when that came back.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, that someone from Suits La messaged me. I'm not kidding. Like one of the showrunners. Like, we'd like you to do a small part in this. We can't really pay you and the script is bad. I mean, literally, I have the message. They go, we can't really pay you and the script is not good. And the Part is not big. And I said, well, does it shoot in la? Yeah. Thank you for thinking of me. I think Megan will eventually find her way into some type of talk show.
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Yeah.
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Because she's failed at the Martha Stewart route, which she wanted. She was slinging jam in Target. She wanted to have a lifestyle brand.
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Yes. Jam was an interesting choice. Yes. Well, it's probably an uncrowded market other than Welch's. I can't think of too many.
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Yeah, there's. Right. She's. She's definitely. She needs to adjust her strategy, but she. I could also see her going back to the uk. Going back to the UK and saying, let's give it another go. Wow.
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That's really.
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I think they do have to go back and stir the brand again, because that's the power is to give me a jump start.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. She's got to do something. I think we're all a little tired of her shtick here. I don't think it worked as well as she thought it would. I think she was going to come back. Her idea was to come back to America and say, listen, the British are really racist, but they do know a lot about dinner parties and I've learned that. So I'm here to tell you how to live like a human being and what fork to use. You egg, you American pig. And I think it's felt a little condescending because, you know, she had that show on Netflix where she was basically like, now this is a. This is what they call a saucer. You put your coffee cup on it so it doesn't spill all over your illegitimate children. You animals. I think people got a little turned off by that.
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I like when they go, prince Harry is marrying a superstar celebrity from America. I'm like, she's on suits. I mean, I don't know what they think it is over there. I go, she's not even the biggest star on suits, but the biggest stars
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in the uk, many of them work at grocery stores. Like, it's a whole different thing.
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Benedict Cumberbatch.
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Yeah.
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Like, truly. Truly. Some of the top stars over there, they. It's not like America where they live in mansions and everything like that.
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Yeah.
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You know, they. Many of them just work menial jobs, you know, sort of a cobbler or something, you know, old school job. Yeah, truly.
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Yeah. Daniel Day Lewis.
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Yeah. They don't have.
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I'm not saying. I'm saying no on. On only fans for her for now. Because that's not the move right now.
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No, it's not. She's got to do something classy.
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Yeah, classy first. And then I heard on Euphoria, Sydney Sweeney. They're upping the ante with Sydney Sweeney. She's going to be an only fans model really in the show, but which is kind of smart.
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The guy from Euphoria called me. Sam Levinson called me over the summer and said, there's a scene we want you to do where Hunter, you're a sugar daddy and you're paying Hunter Schaefer. And Hunter Schaefer has you on a leash and you're walking around the floor like a dog. And I go. He goes, but it's only like four lines. I go, I need 12. I'm not flying to California for four lines. I said, I will absolutely do it for like 10 or 12 lines. He goes, it's like four lines. He goes, It's like two lines at a dinner. And then immediately you're on the leash. I go, I don't. I need eight lines. Ten lines before I'm on the leash. I'm. I'm. You know what I mean? Like.
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Well, he says, is, arf, arf. Two lines or one?
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I mean, it's lit. Was literally a call. He goes, I totally understand if you don't want to do it. Don't worry about it. He goes, it's not a lot of lines. He goes, it's two lines. You're on a leash. And I go, eight lines, ten lines. And then I'm on a leash. Fine.
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Right. One of those.
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Someone putting a leash on me, you know, is, is, is most of the day.
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I like that you're in your leash saying hi to everyone. Hey, Zendaya.
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Oh, 100%. They wouldn't even be on set. I asked, I said, can I at least get a photo with them? He goes, they won't be. He goes, we're not letting you near Zendaya and Jacob Elordi. We're putting a leash on you. You're going to be in a. In some type of segregated area, like you have a disease.
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Yeah.
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Like it's the Spanish flu. And you're going to be on a leash. Hunter Schaefer is going to poke you with a stick and then you're going to get sick.
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Health care, maybe taser your nuts. And then.
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That's right, that's a wrap.
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Who is your agent? Because I'm not hearing a lot of great offers.
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No signed me recently. I have a great age. I have the biggest agency. What are they gonna do? They're homeless. Half of them Now, I mean, what do they. You know, are they.
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They're getting bought by private equity companies and counting their money?
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Some of them are. Some of them, you know, some of them are in real trouble.
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That's right.
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I will say that I hate to admit that Tim Dillon is very funny as an actor when he did Bus Boys. And then I think it would help people see you in that, because I'll go to buy.
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Go to. Where can they get tickets to it?
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Oh, to Bus Boys. Yeah. Do we have busboys movie?
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Yeah. Go get tickets. Because we have. We have one of the funniest scenes. I think we have a great scene trailer.
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Yeah.
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We have a really funny scene longer.
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And we're gonna put out more footage because we laughed the whole time.
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We laughed the whole time. And I was nervous because I didn't know if I was going to remember the lines. And I was. I was pretty good. For someone who doesn't, you know, I'm not doing this all the time.
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I will finish the sentence. He's very good. And he was very. I'm not saying shockingly professional, but with comedians who cancel spots every night, at the end, I'm like, I don't know what I'm getting. I'm not saying Tim does that, but I'm saying, right. Nobody knows. And Theo's never done it. And so people might think, hey, like, Nate Diaz was a little loosey goosey with the schedule.
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The fact that me and Bobby even came to sets, huge, yes.
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Bobby Lee, the biggest gamble, and he was on time. Put that band aid around his head. I mean, I was shocked. And Tim would come and it would be one of those things where one time I got mad because I said, are you still here? And I think we just have to do a cutaway or something. So he was always sitting in his trailer, perfectly behaved, knew his lines. And then one time when you had a long list, he had to walk down the line of busboys and. And kind of shit on us all. I said, this is one of those days where I go, I wouldn't want this many lines. And he had them all memorized. Boom, boom, boom. So I was very impressed. Who cares about impressing me? But I was just glad that he came and took it seriously. I appreciate some people wouldn't.
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And I took it. I took it seriously. And. And I surprised myself with my ability to remember the lines because it is difficult.
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That's the hardest part.
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The hardest part really is to remember, because you will think you have them down and then you will go on Set. And then it's. And I've screwed movies up, you know, Joker too, famously. I couldn't remember the lines, and Todd Phillips got really mad at me. And it's not his fault. It's my fault, because I couldn't remember the line. Now, some of the directions was confusing, whatever. But that's not my. What am I, a director? You know what I mean? But it was difficult. The critics have thoughts on it. It doesn't matter. But it was hard for me to do it. And I didn't have the lines down in Joker, and I only had like six lines in Joker, but I kept putting them in the wrong because it's, you know, Joaquin Phoenix and Brendan Gleason, and it's really intimidating. And it was really hard. I was coming off that experience, which was a trauma. Traumatic.
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You know what that was like Marc Maron in the first one. Like, he had De Niro and Joaquin.
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Yeah.
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And he had to be a normal. It's very hard. All that just. That is scary. Just doing them in your trailer. Even if you run them with someone. You walk on set and then the real people are in front of you. You can blind because you're like, this isn't what I. How I pictured my head because I. I was just doing it like this. Now there's too much in my head.
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I'm just saying it felt better looking at Jessica Michelle Singleton on set, you know, as opposed to Joaquin Phoenix. I felt more.
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Oh, yes. Yeah.
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I felt less.
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Well, we were more relaxed set, for sure.
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It was more fun.
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And we would say, do it a million times and say whatever you want. And we all. I like when you go to the one guy. Frankly, you're scaring me.
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I love. My favorite line is. I don't even know what you're talking about
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because I have a question. I don't even know what you're talking about.
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On old school. Like, smoke a joint and go to the movie theater, but don't try. Obviously have get an Uber.
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Listen, a lot of people are comparing it to Inception and some Christopher Nolan films.
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Well, it is. I think there's. It's. It's very. It has a lot of similarities to that. Yes.
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I'm getting Dunkirk vibes. I don't know why.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Dana liked the trailer, but we're making him go see it at the movies.
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Well, it felt like a 90s comedy.
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And.
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And I think the world right now. Oh, I'm a hot take. It's a little discombobulated right now. So then this really Goofy, silly movie with physical comedy. And you guys, I don't know, it seems like a good relief from the world.
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My. My hope is that it ends the Iran war, because people just start going,
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that's what everyone's banking on.
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This is probably the direction it goes, if you want my guess.
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Well, I did have a question for you. This is a non sequitur, but what would it take financially? Real offer to play Carg Island.
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Of me.
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Yeah.
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To play my car island. Absolutely suggest it. By the way, my agent is a busting, money grubbing monster and I love him and he's good, but he would absolutely suggest Carg Island. And he would say what he says about everything. He'd go, it's actually an easy flight. That's what he said.
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I've heard that.
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Yeah. An easy flight. It's New York to Reykjavik and then Reykjavik to Dubai. Dubai, right in there. You land on an aircraft carrier. It's an amphibious assault, but we get you on it now. It's easy.
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Promote your name on bombs. When they drop, they. That's a good.
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It's just an easy flight. He goes, it's. The amphitheater's big. He goes, It's 3,000, but I'm not worried about it. I'm not worried about 3,000. Yeah.
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It was a certain size and then Trump made it actually bigger. There's a reason I'm not worried about it.
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It's an easy flight.
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They're hungry for comedy.
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You've never been there. You starved the market. So now that you're there, people really show up.
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Right. When I do, when I say it's six flights and it's 17 hours, my guy goes, and then you're there.
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And then you're. Right. What a great line they all have. And then you're there and then you're home.
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I'm like, okay, then it's done.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, hopefully Busboys has some influence on helping end the war, because maybe everyone wants it to be over with so they can focus on it.
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Well, I think so. I think we're all ready for silliness and fun. And I think people need to stop with the. The killing and the screaming.
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Yeah.
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And the Right. And the rage. Go to bus boys and not be angry for 90 minutes, then be angry
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right after again and right before.
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Yes.
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But not when Spade and Dylan are on the screen doing their magic. That's when you just let it go.
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That's when you let it.
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So that'll be fun. And I have a couple more things for you that, you know, I know you're very busy, but shouldn't we say
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where they get tickets? Isn't the big. You guys got to get them in advance?
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Because. Well, what we're doing is we're adding theaters this week. So what happens is, if the theaters start to fill up, Regal or Cinemark, there's a new one, AMC Parkins in Arizona. They want to add, so that helps. So they start filling up. They add more. That helps.
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So where do they go?
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Just wriggle on Bus Boys Movie. And then you go to busboy movie.com, and then it'll say, put in your zip code. And then it says, here's the theaters by you. All right, but I have a story from this weekend.
B
I'm going to buy a ticket. You guys talk among yourself.
A
You know your zip code. Ask Paula. All right, Tim. So I'm in the. I'm in the airport, and this dude comes up and he goes, hey, I was at your show tonight, but my flight's an hour and a half late, so I'm sort of just fielding. It's like Comic Con. So I'm just sitting with people taking a photo, and then they tell someone and they come over. And so the one guy goes, hey, very nice guy. Looks like Bert Kreischer. And he goes, hey, most of my fans do. And he goes, hey, I saw your show last night. He goes, blah, blah, blah. I'm in pain. I've been in a car accident on our motorcycle, and I'm hurt. And I go, okay, cool, let's take a quick pick. And. And then he goes, yeah, it's pretty bad, but I sort of skimmed over it. But then he goes, yeah, it was. I was in the hospital for about six months. And I go, okay. And then he goes, I've had. It was worse than Taylor Swift. No, not Taylor Swift. I was Lindsey Vaughn. He goes, you see the picture of Lindsey Vaughn? I said, oh, yeah, her leg had all that scaffolding on it. I said, that looked bad. He goes, nothing. That was nothing. And I go, well, I'll let her know. And then he said, so it's. I have all these things on me. And he goes. Anyway, long story short, he goes. I think he goes, I almost died. And you know what? I remember going under and I felt. I started playing the last Kill Tony shows I saw in my head. And I go, God damn, is this it? When you go, that's reliving Kill Tony shows.
C
I kind of think a draft isn't the worst idea.
B
Oh, we were Gonna ask, you know what I mean?
C
Like, maybe let's get people. Maybe get him to Carg Island. I don't know how bad of an idea it is to get that guy. Get him on an aircraft carrier now.
A
I mean, I said, if this is the end. And I'm thinking of old Kill Tony, which I love Kill Tony, but I don't think that's the first thing that's coming to mind. But anyway, he goes, I'm. I'm going to switch my flight and come see you again tonight. I said, great, I'm going to get you in. I got him in and he did show up. So nice enough guy. Of course I make fun of him, but nice enough guy. And. Yes. Is there a draft? And are you going?
C
Well, I. I don't know if there will be a draft. I think there are certain people that want to draft and it would be fun to have a draft because if you really want to lose a war, send Americans. I mean, truly, like in an embarrassing way. And because there's two problems. There's, it's, there's cowardice, sure. But then there's also. We have a lot of weight problems in the country. And if. And fat cowards is the worst thing in the world. So if you. If Americans on their televisions watch fat people run away from battle, they will never be able to recover from that.
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Yeah.
C
And the image of the country will never be able to recover from that. Watching fat people run away from a battle will be the end of America. Just the visual of that, the visual of fat people running away from a battle will be the end of America visually. And it's maybe how it should end, but that'll be the visual end of America.
A
Yeah.
B
Well, now in boot camp, if the sergeant gets mad, he goes, drop and give me two.
C
Yeah, right.
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Three crutches while everyone watches it.
C
Just the whole army being shot up with Ozempic and going, I can't deploy on my shot day.
A
Yeah, my muscles are being eroded.
C
I have to wait three or four days. I can't. On the day of my shot, I can't do heavy combat.
A
I have add. Yeah, that's tough. And there's no tick tock out there on the battlefield. I don't think there should be, but they would probably drop the weight requirement. Drop every, drop, everything.
C
They're gonna have to just basically say, anybody. We're gonna have an army of morbidly obese, heavily medicated Disney adults. And that's just what we'. That's what we've Built in this country.
B
That's our front line.
C
That's. That's our front line. Just 48 year olds dosed with Prozac, dressed like toddlers with Mickey Mouse backpacks, running as the Iranians mow us down. Like, I mean, one by one, just 300 pounders going down, dressed in Disney onesies.
A
Yeah. They say there's a new Iranian Disneyland to get them. Everyone going over there and then.
C
That's right.
A
Oh, boy. Okay, so that draft might not be a bad idea now that I. Yeah, yeah, it sounds interesting. Okay, how about the movie industry? Is it coming back? I got in trouble because I said I wasn't really mad at Gavin Newsom and camera. I was just saying, could we make it a slightly more of a priority? I don't know what we're spending the money on that's flowing in because it's a lot flowing in, but it goes out so quickly. I want to sort of reserve a little piece of the pie to like focus. Like, let's try to get this back. That's all Tim.
C
Yeah, it's. They don't. You know, the thing about Gavin Newsom and Karen Best, they. They seem to think everything's kind of going well. So it's very hard. That's the issue. It's very. When someone thinks things are going well, it's very hard to make them understand. LA lost a million people in the last year. It's the biggest population decline of any metropolitan area of comparable size. You know, I mean, in the. In the entire country. And there are very few. There's like none. LA lost more people than anything else because the jobs aren't here and they're shooting everything. Everywhere else. They're shooting it. So it was cool that you shot busboys in la.
A
Yeah.
C
So it can be done.
A
It didn't seem to change the landscape enough to move it. Yeah, but it was nice to do it there. I mean, we said, let's just do it here. That's a tiny, like, hey, at least for awareness. But everyone says to me, why don't you just move out of la? And I'm like, well, moving is hard. And I don't know if I'm going to find a yard house nearby or a church. Like when I go to another. Like you went. When I saw you in Austin originally, you had. You were one of the first people.
C
Maybe I moved for about seven months. Yeah. Yeah.
A
And then you broke the news to Adam. You get that backstage that you didn't love it anymore and you were gonna.
C
Yeah, well, I like. Listen, there's a lot of things I like about Austin. I like going out to dinner and getting sick. You know what I mean? Like, I don't need to eat food that was. Got that day, you know, I'm not one of those guys. I like how brown it is. I like how you, you know, the air feels like you're smoking all the time. It's a great city, and I like it. It's three or four blocks. It's easy navigate. You can navigate it. I like it. I like that everyone's a communist, but also, weirdly, Hitler. Like that they've accomplished an interesting political thing. You're like, you're a racist Nazi communist. It's amazing. So it is heaven on earth. But I found myself drawn back to California, unfortunately, probably till the end. And that's just what it is.
B
Well, I do like, yeah, did you miss the 14.2 state tax? And a part of you is like, I like writing that. You check.
C
Well, here's the hard part. Here's a good thing about Texas. You have. There's you. You get to Austin, and you. You do have. Your accountant says to you, at the end of the year, you have a lot more money. So then you go, wow, you look at all this money and you call your friends, you, I got a lot of money. So you go down to Ms. Vicky's House of Brisket. And I mean, you. You start buying meat by the pound, and then you eat it. And then in your car, you begin to sweat and feel ill, and you pull over and then you go to sleep and you go, money well spent.
A
Well, you get enough money where you go, I can move back to California.
C
That's right. That's right. As soon as I had those savings, I said, I got to get out of here. And God bless everyone. Obviously, Austin's a great city, and I'm.
A
Well, everything I thought about it, you got the mothership.
C
Well, the mothership's great. And. Yeah.
A
See why comics want to go there. And it's good because a lot of cities, people say, you should move. I go, well, aside from maybe Austin or New York, there's nothing. A lot of places have a lot of comments.
C
Well, I like it because it's safe, you know? And I know people might say that, you know, they. 14 people were shot last week on that one block. But I'll tell you this, I feel safe there. Even though I hear gunshots a lot, I still feel safe knowing that the people that are shooting me, someone may shoot them. That feels good.
A
That is, it is good. Yeah.
C
So yeah.
B
So where do you, where do you live now?
C
Yeah, I live, I live in Dubai right now.
B
Right now.
C
And from Dubai, Right now I'm broadcasting from Dubai and I'm incorporated. My business is in Dubai and Qatar. My bank account is in Qatar. I'm a Qatari national at the moment. And I'm just kind of hopping around the Gulf states to see which one feels the best.
B
Do the drones coming in, you know the small maybe 115 pound bomb, do they bother you or you just.
C
They don't bother me. I like to look at them on my walk and it's just a natural progression of the way things are. You know, you're gonna see a drone in the sky. You can't freak out.
A
It makes not a big story anymore. It's just like how crazy is the world when the drone, they're like, I saw a huge UFO mothership yesterday. They're like, yeah, I know. And also the AI kind of blurs it.
C
It's just trying to get aliens going. Like every like three weeks the government comes out and they tell people, they go, by the way, there's aliens and then some like movies. Mother is like, hey, why is chicken $96? Yeah, my children are starving and they go, what about alien life? She goes, yeah, and feed my family.
A
Aliens don't eat. We have to eat down here.
C
Right?
A
Eat and gas and all the problems.
B
Yeah, what, what is the war of attrition when they shoot a ten thousand dollar drone at us and we shoot it down with a three million dollar missile. This seems like a weird, like maybe we should change that tactic.
C
Unless you're making those missiles because that seems like a good gig.
A
That's good biz.
B
The defense industry is up 40% in the stock market.
C
They're doing good. You got to hand it to them, you know, consistency, quality.
A
Is there is there always has to be a war because Ukraine was the hot war and then it's sort of still going on and it just doesn't have enough heat.
C
You know what it is? Ukraine was boring. You're kind of like, it's still there. But what is it really? And it doesn't, you know, you're not, it's not getting a season three.
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It is not.
C
Iran is hot. It's new. It's young.
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It's sexy.
C
It's sexy. It's, it's, you know, it's snackable content. It's snackable. You can enjoy little bits and you know, check in and check out. It Plays very well on social. It's very brand aligned. I mean, yeah. Important right now.
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It's protestable.
C
Protestable. It has a live component, which is these protests alive. It's huge. It's very easy with merch. It's. It's smart, it's sharp, it's young.
A
It's. Now we need it.
C
We need it. We can say we just need it. It's fresh. We're all talking about the draft. It's just. It's. It's really important for us to do these things.
A
Yeah. There's a lot of protests, and I sort of. I agree to look closely at the screen and go, what is this one?
C
Yeah.
A
Because it can change weekly. But people are mad.
C
Yeah. The Iran war, to me, is just about aligning with brands that support our core values.
A
Yeah.
B
Which are
C
Raytheon, General Dynamics, you know, Palantir.
B
Right.
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Netanyahu. People that are just. They support our core values. And we're all rowing in the same direction. As my agent would say, let's row in the same direction on this. She says it once a week.
B
Really?
C
Yeah. She row in the same direction on this.
A
Mine says, you know, the landscape has changed, but what we're going to do here is. I talked to Netflix before we get on the Zoom call.
C
Yeah.
A
I set the table, so we're all set. Right.
B
And then you. You come in.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And.
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Yeah.
C
And my manager is. Is great because he. I'll talk to him and I'll call him. I go, hey, how are you? And he goes, well, I'm looking at a horse farm right now. And I said, oh, that's good. That's good.
A
How's he going for you? Yeah, he's going good, right?
C
Yeah. God bless. You know, we. We wish all of them well.
B
I get for my agent a lot. It's rough out there for everybody. I don't know. Is that a positive thing to say to a client?
C
It's a great thing to say.
A
Now he. He says, dana, I heard something. You did? Where's your new address? To bill you for the thing we are unaware of.
B
Could I mention a Mickey Rooney insert that said this topical to this Mickey Rooney, the crazy guy that I did a sitcom with. He. He was fake, number one star in the world, then went broke. He called up his manager and says, mickey Rooney, I'm broke. And the manager said, how can you be broke? I have a yacht named after you.
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Right.
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Quote, unquote.
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Yeah.
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Some things never change.
A
The money's in agenting and managing that's where it is. Still 10 for each still.
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Yes.
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And realtors are getting kicked out of them for 5%.
C
Business manager, you get 5, they give you, you know, 5% to them, depending on where. Then the lawyer's there.
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You know, it's hard to. Hard to be rich in this business.
B
Tim, are you kind of business savvy in a sense? I mean, would. Do people come up to you for advice, like what to do, where to put their money?
C
Dana, interesting point. No one's ever come to me for advice on any issue in my life. But I've only been on earth 41 years.
A
Interesting.
C
No one's ever come to me and said. Exactly. Exactly. What is your advice on said subject? What do you think?
B
You've given a lot of really good takes on the world. Global politics.
C
Sure. But no one, no one, no one really comes to the Irish for financial wisdom.
B
Were you doing mortgages?
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What did you do?
C
Before I met you, I was doing subprime loans, which was. We were giving homes to people that could not afford them.
A
Oh yeah.
C
Is actually nice and great.
A
Right.
C
And I gave one to myself and I couldn't afford that and I lost my house.
A
Let's look at a clip.
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So you're all cash. You're all cash.
C
Well, no, I'm finance now. I believe in debt. I believe debt is what makes you free. I believe you should finance everything you can. I think paying for things is stupid. I think, you know, you should be in a. In a, in an amount of debt that scares you out of bed every morning to work. You should be in a frightening amount of debt. I think children should have credit cards. Eight, nine years old. I think the debtor economy is the only thing that binds us together as Americans. And you should have so much debt that it makes you physically sick.
B
A nursery school kid should have an iPhone.
C
Yes.
A
Right.
B
And an Amex card.
C
100%. Four years. What are we doing? What are we doing here? If you're not in a paralyzing amount of debt, what is going to get you up every day to go sit in that GEICO office and you know.
B
Right.
C
Talk to people that just got rear ended. All.
B
All life is in the end of the day is, hey, you want to go over there for a while? Yeah. Okay. After that you want to go there? Yeah. Where'd you go? I went over there and then I'm coming back here. That's it.
C
That's right.
A
And then you post it.
C
Yeah.
A
You know, other Little Joe Biden there for a second.
B
Little Joe Biden came out. That's right.
C
I'm not getting around.
A
Come on.
C
He's still alive. How great is that?
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Are you sure?
C
Alive? Well, it seems to be.
B
No, he seems to be doing pretty well. That's.
A
I saw him at the yard house.
C
Yeah. Was he having an onion ring tower? I love that you like the yard house. The yard that.
A
I plugged it twice.
C
You plug the yard house now twice. Yard house is really one of the most American places you can go. Menu makes no sense. There's no theme to the menu. It'll be like, would you like garlic noodles, the onion ring tower or spicy tuna? And you go, where are you?
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What is Jeff Pad Thai? They're like, yep, it'll be in two minutes.
C
And how about a pizza? You know, you go, right? The theme here, other than giving up
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K Pop Demon Hunters, Saja Boys Breakfast
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Meal and Hunt Tricks Meal have just dropped at McDonald's.
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They're calling this a battle for the fans.
C
What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle. So glad the Saja Boys could take
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breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.
C
It is an honor to share. No, it's our honor. It is our larger honor.
B
No, really, stop.
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You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side.
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Participating McDonald's while supplies last.
B
What's your. What's your take on how Trump has his energy at 80 with purple legs and purple hands and is out there just yelling?
C
My mother once. My mother said to me once, this is true. She. She, of course, a morbidly OBES schizophrenic who died in a public institution. But she said to me near the end of her life, I mean, just facts. She said to me near the end of her life, McDonald's is healthy. It was one of the last things she said. It was one of the last pieces of wisdom my mother said before she died. And she said to me, she goes, McDonald's is actually healthy. It had. And they're the sponsor of the Olympics. She said that to me.
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They did sponsor.
C
Well, so that is something that I think people in my mother and Trump's Generation believe that McDonald's is healthy. And. And I think if you believe something, it's kind of true. This is what Trump has kind of exposed.
B
No, I think I talked to this mind body doctor, you know, and he's like, if you're really sad having that beer, it's going to hurt you. Or if you're really sad having McDonald's. So there is some theory that if you're happy what you're consuming, it's actually good for you.
C
You have to not buy into. Trump doesn't seem to buy into the idea that McDonald's is bad for you. He. And. And exercise is good for you. Like, he doesn't like to move too much because body only has so many movements. He's on his own path. But it's worked.
B
It's worked. He says you have only so many heartbeats, so why. Why waste them? Why, you know, all that stuff?
C
So anyway, yeah, I mean, it's what he believes and what he believes has become real for him.
B
Yeah. And it just endorphinizes his body in a way.
A
You know, it's funny to go from Biden, who was sort of barely moving. And then you get Trump, who's the exact opposite. Two older people. One was very stiff and one was out. One's not out there enough. I thought he wasn't giving enough to the press and enough to conferences. And then there's Trump, who's out too much, almost. He's on the plane talking. He's in the helicopter. He's yelling his lines.
B
He loves it. I mean, he. It's not a chore for him. I don't. I think he gets in that podium. He takes. Question I. The energy that he puts out still is kind of unexplainable. The amount of it.
A
I don't know.
C
He likes. He's having fun. That's so much of life is. Are you having fun? And I think he's having fun.
B
Yeah. And so then you. You don't drain energy. You're just sort of. Yeah.
C
I also don't think he's kept up at night by decisions. I think he goes, we're doing this, and then we're gonna do that. I don't think he's agonizing over the decisions. I think, right. We're doing this. This seems like a good idea. And then if it's not, we'll do something else.
B
Right.
A
Right. Everyone else gets worried, but he's like, no, this is. Here's the plan.
C
He loves his ballroom. I think at a certain age, you got to have a thing you love. He loves his ballroom. Yeah. They're building a nice ballroom. The military is building an underground bunker under it, which is nice for when there are. And this is perfect. When there were drone attacks at the ballroom, which he imagines it'll be his gas.
A
During events.
C
Go into the bunker. Of course, during an event, they'll say, ladies and gentlemen, please proceed. We have ushers that will usher you into the safe zone, and they'll take all these Palm beach people down to the bunker while the White House is being droned by some foreign power. And then. And then they go, well, the drone threat has been eliminated, and everyone will clap. And then they'll go right back up and grab.
A
And the band is back on stage.
C
Dan's back on. So I think he's preparing us for our next stage.
B
But, yeah, peptide infusions on the way back up.
C
Oh, you're gonna get shot up with everything you want. You're gonna have stem cells in the neck, and. And that's what it's gonna be. And then outside, it's just gonna Be plumes of black smoke and people screaming. But in the ballroom, it's gonna be martinis and, like, a jazz band. And I think that's cool.
B
Totally. I mean, actually, they do send Trump a montage of. They call it things blowing up. No joke. And it's like 10 minutes of just some of a video of our airstrikes.
C
Yeah, he likes it. It's feels. It's fun for him. It's like during the Iraq war, my grandparents would watch the night vision. You know, back then, you didn't have the technology, but you had the green night vision. And you see the missiles fly into things. And they would sit there in their Long island house and they would eat meatloaf, and they would nod at the tv and they would look at each other and go, this is pretty damn cool.
B
That was the first televised war live in real time.
C
That's right.
B
Was that Gulf Gulf War with breaking news and all that. And then the OJ Trial was just like. That was Must see tv. That was the first time I'd ever actually watch cable news that much.
C
That's the show me and my dad would watch. The Dana Carvey Show. That was in, what, 1997 or 8?
B
Yeah.
C
Every episode of that. There was an episode of that where you guys parodied the Republican primary. I don't know if you remember this. Yes, you parodied the Republican primary, and I think you were making fun. I think it was like Phil Graham and Steve and all these guys, and. And one of the bits was that this goes back a long time, but one of the bits was that Phil Grammer, one of these guys, had lost the election in their own house. Like, their family had voted, and he had lost the election in his own house, and he wouldn't accept that. He wanted to recount. But I remember that watching that every episode with my dad and loving it. He doesn't speak to me anymore because I called his wife a name on Piers Morgan. But I do remember the good times of watching the Dana Carvey show in the 90s. It was one of the best shows, so thank you for that.
B
Well, thank you. Thank you.
A
Where's him watching.
B
Thank you for saying that. That's very high praise from you. Yeah.
A
Well, Tim, we won't keep you forever, but anything left for this gentleman, Dana,
B
this is one of my favorite podcasts.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Like, I, I' of how you can riff and how you stack these word packages. It's, it's. It's a skill set.
C
Your.
B
Your reputation.
C
It's.
B
It's not fake news. It's like live to really be here with you doing that. And we've had dinner a couple times, but it is, it's pretty impressive. I just gotta say.
C
Well, I love both you guys. It's honor. It's a literal honor to be here. I hope people go see busboys. Go get the ticket. We'll have a link. There'll be a link at some point.
A
Tim on the road will be on the road. And also a Netflix special is always Funny Zone podcast. Yeah, you're. What about your podcast?
C
That's Tim Dylan if you want to see it. Bored. If you're. It's on Saturday.
A
Yeah. His podcast is this Always. I look at the clips always.
C
Yeah.
B
Well, this podcast is like okay, Rogan. I could. Tim. Yeah.
C
Yeah.
B
You don't go very far down. You see, Tim, it's, it's wild.
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We, we appreciate everybody who's out there listening. You guys have. Having me on is amazing. And go see the movie. It's going to be a lot of fun.
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Guest: Tim Dillon
Release Date: April 9, 2026
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David Spade and Dana Carvey hang out with comedian Tim Dillon for a blisteringly funny riff-fest on all things showbiz, fame, money, the global state of comedy, and the absurdities of American culture and politics. Dillon's signature sarcasm and sharp observations keep things unpredictable as the trio swaps war stories, movie talk, and caustic takes on the industry.
In this episode, Dana and David welcome comedian and podcaster Tim Dillon for a freewheeling, high-energy conversation. The trio lampoons contemporary celebrity, discusses working in Hollywood, the state of standup, and riff on everything from Meghan Markle’s brand misfires to the potential for a U.S. military draft—with Dillon providing his characteristic rants, incisive social commentary, and no-holds-barred humor.
| Time | Segment | |---------------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:25–05:13 | Tim Dillon’s riffing style and Dennis Miller/Limbaugh jokes| | 07:03–09:44 | “Lights Out” TV stories and comedy panel dynamics | | 17:08–19:46 | Meghan Markle, Suits LA, and US/UK celebrity culture | | 20:21–21:45 | Tim’s Euphoria episode offer story | | 23:08–26:01 | “Busboys” movie talks, acting anxiety, and on-set stories | | 27:12–28:23 | Agents, improbable offers, and “It’s an easy flight” jokes | | 31:01–34:11 | Draft, military humor, and American society send-up | | 35:27–38:12 | LA vs. Austin, leaving and returning, city comedy scenes | | 43:20–45:13 | Being “rich,” comedy economics, and debt philosophy | | 48:38–52:27 | Trump’s energy, McDonald’s ‘health’, bunker jokes | | 54:34–55:11 | Tim’s appreciation for Dana’s 90s show and closing praise |
Whether you’re drawn to the caustic, truth-bombing comedy of Tim Dillon, a behind-scenes look at Hollywood, or just want to hear sharp, unsparing rants on everything from politics to pop culture, this episode is a wild, wickedly funny ride.