Focus on the Family with Jim Daly
Episode: Finding Your Footing in the Chaos of Life (Part 2 of 2)
Release Date: July 3, 2025
Hosts: Jim Daly, John Fuller
Guest: Levi Lusko, Co-founder and Lead Pastor of Fresh Life Church
Introduction and Overview
In the second part of the two-part series titled "Finding Your Footing in the Chaos of Life," hosts Jim Daly and John Fuller engage in a profound conversation with Levi Lusko. Lusko shares his personal journey through a midlife crisis, offering hope and biblical insights for listeners navigating their own life struggles.
Midlife Crisis and Personal Struggles
Levi Lusko opens the discussion by reflecting on his own midlife crisis, which began at the age of 38. He describes experiencing panic attacks and unprecedented apathy, a stark contrast to his previously motivated and forward-looking nature.
“At 38, which was almost five years ago now, I began to have panic attacks at night. I also was struggling with apathy, which had never really been something in my life.”
—Levi Lusko [02:37]
John Fuller acknowledges Lusko's resilience, noting how he transforms the concept of "spiraling down" into an opportunity to "spiral up" with God’s presence.
“If you're going through a valley right now… we learn so much in the valley.”
—John Fuller [01:38]
Biblical Perspectives on Trials and Growth
Lusko emphasizes that difficult times are blessings in disguise, providing opportunities to lean into God’s strength and grow spiritually.
“None of us learn and grow from our good days. We learn and grow from the hard times.”
—Levi Lusko [00:01]
He references the Book of James, encouraging believers to "rejoice when you fall into various trials" as a pathway to experiencing God more deeply.
Lessons from Personal Crisis
When discussing what he learned from his midlife crisis, Lusko highlights three key takeaways:
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Identity in Jesus: Maintaining his identity centered on Christ helped him navigate through his struggles.
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Addressing Trauma: Lusko underscores the importance of diagnosing and treating personal trauma rather than ignoring it, which can lead to emotional explosions.
“As long as things are undiagnosed properly, they'll go mistreated, we'll numb them… shove it down.”
—Levi Lusko [05:00] -
Community and Counseling: He advocates for biblical counseling and community support, critiquing the church’s historical dismissal of counseling as "worldliness."
Stewardship and Biblical Examples
The conversation shifts to the concept of stewardship versus ownership, using biblical figures to illustrate how possessions can be used for God's purposes without becoming idols.
“Money in your hand is not the problem. Money in your heart is.”
—Levi Lusko [11:49]
Lusko cites examples like Joanna, the wife of Cuza, who supported Jesus' ministry despite Herod’s opposition, and Lydia from Thessalonica, who used her wealth to establish a church in Philippi.
“She used that money to funnel the Apostle Paul and supported… let the whole church in Philippi get started in her house.”
—Levi Lusko [12:25]
Personal Stories and Inspirations
Martin Smith and Alice Cooper
Lusko shares anecdotes about influential Christian figures who prioritized family and faith over fame. He speaks of Martin Smith from the band Delirious, who stepped away from fame to focus on his family, finding greater wisdom and purpose in the process.
“Being hidden, being buried is how a seed gets to be grown.”
—Levi Lusko [07:42]
John Fuller relates this to his experience with Alice Cooper, highlighting the transformation from a rock star struggling with addiction to a vibrant Christian minister who uses his influence for good.
Seasons of Life and Legacy
The hosts and Lusko discuss the metaphor of life as three seasons: building a container, filling it, and giving it away. Lusko uses his father’s life as an example, illustrating how he built his career, filled his life with family and ministry, and ultimately gave away his legacy through his final days.
“The goal is for all of us to be willing to follow Jesus, even if it's into obscurity.”
—Levi Lusko [09:59]
John Fuller adds that many professionals, especially women, may achieve outward success but lack emotional fulfillment, underscoring the importance of meaningful relationships and legacy.
The Role of Nature and Spiritual Reflection
Lusko recounts a moment in San Diego where he contemplated the transient nature of worldly possessions while enjoying the beauty of nature. He connects this to the Fibonacci sequence, symbolizing God's intricate design in life's spirals.
“It's the blueprint of God inside the spiral… God has a plan. He's up to something.”
—Levi Lusko [21:38]
This reflection serves as a reminder that life's challenges are part of a divine plan, encouraging listeners to trust in God's overarching purpose.
Prayer and Encouragement
Towards the episode’s conclusion, Lusko offers a heartfelt prayer for those struggling in their spirals, invoking peace, purpose, and divine intervention.
“I pray for peace. And I pray for purpose… God, that they can encourage someone.”
—Levi Lusko [24:51]
John Fuller emphasizes the importance of community support, urging listeners to reach out and connect with counselors and resources available through Focus on the Family.
Final Reflections
The episode wraps up with mutual expressions of appreciation. John Fuller commends Lusko for his authenticity and ability to connect through shared human experiences.
“You're projecting brokenness and God with you in the brokenness. And that's beautiful.”
—John Fuller [25:47]
Levi Lusko concludes by reiterating the central message: embracing life's spirals as part of God's plan, ensuring that each individual's journey leads to spiritual growth and fulfillment.
Conclusion
This episode of Focus on the Family with Jim Daly offers a deeply personal and biblically grounded exploration of life's challenges. Through Levi Lusko's candid sharing of his midlife crisis and the lessons learned, listeners are encouraged to find their footing amidst chaos by leaning into faith, addressing personal trauma, and embracing the seasons of life with a heart focused on God.
Notable Quotes:
- Levi Lusko [00:01]: “None of us learn and grow from our good days. We learn and grow from the hard times.”
- John Fuller [01:38]: “If you're going through a valley right now, we're just a phone call or click away.”
- Levi Lusko [05:00]: “As long as things are undiagnosed properly, they'll go mistreated, we'll numb them… shove it down.”
- Levi Lusko [11:49]: “Money in your hand is not the problem. Money in your heart is.”
- Levi Lusko [21:38]: “It's the blueprint of God inside the spiral… God has a plan.”
- Levi Lusko [24:51]: “I pray for peace. And I pray for purpose…”
Resources and Support
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