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John Fuller
You know, it's interesting to consider that even captains of industry recognize the importance of the family. For example, American automobile executive Lee Iacocca once said, the only rock I know that stays steady, the only institution I know that works is the family. Now you're going to hear how to help your family stay steady on today's episode of Focus on the Family with Jim Daly. Thanks for joining us. I'm John Fuller.
Jim Daly
We well, we always enjoy having Dr. Gary Chapman visit us in the studio. But today and next time we're gonna present a very dynamic message that he shared at a large church in his hometown. And as you said, John, the topic is improving the strength of your family. Dr. Gary Chapman is a counselor and he's the author of the bestselling series of books based on the five Love Languages. I know some of you are nodding your head right now cause you read the book. He has his own talk show on the Moody Radio Network and he's been friend to focus on the family over the years.
John Fuller
And here's Dr. Gary Chapman speaking at St. Peter's Church and World Outreach center in Winston Salem, North Carolina, on today's episode of Focus on the Family with Jim Daly.
Dr. Gary Chapman
I want to tell you before I start what I hope is going to happen in the brief time that we spend together tonight. My first desire is that your family relationships will get better. That'd be alright with you. You know, family relationships either get better or they get worse. They never stand still. And I certainly hope you're married, your family will not get worse because I can. I hope it'll get better. My second desire is that you will learn some things that you will find so helpful that you want to share them with your friends who are not here tonight but who desperately need help. Do you know the people I'm talking about? And my third desire is that we can have a little fun while we do this. Now, I meet people who don't believe in fun. You talk about fun and they say, oh no, I'm a Christian now. I understand that for a good while now you've been focusing on the family, as pastor said. And tonight I want to kind of try to bring it together for you. And I want to talk to you about the family you've always wanted. And essentially what I want to do is to share with you the five fundamentals of what a healthy family looks like. You know, we're in danger in our generation forgetting what a healthy family even looks like. You know, when they train bankers, tellers at the bank to spot counterfeit bills. They don't show them a lot of counterfeit bills. What they have them do is focus on the real thing. And if you focus on the real thing, you can spot a counterfeit. So we've had so much Talk the last 20 years about dysfunctional families. Almost everybody I meet thinks they grew up in one. In fact, they come into my office, and sometimes that's the way they start. They say, doc Chapman, you know, I grew up in a very dysfunctional family. And they go on from there to blame their family for what happened. Now, you know, we're not going to improve things by talking about dysfunctional families. What we have to do is rediscover what a healthy family looks like. That's what I want to focus on. So I want to suggest, if you have pen and paper, you take a few notes tonight. But I want to first of all read a passage that's very, very familiar with you. Because I think in this passage we find the key, the five fundamentals of a healthy family. It's Ephesians, chapter five. You're familiar with it, but let's just read it again to get it on the front burner. Ephesians, chapter 5, verse 18. Do not get drunk on wine. Incidentally, that's good advice. No family was ever helped by somebody getting drunk. Don't get drunk with wine, which leads to debauchery, but instead, be filled with the spirit. Speak to one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. Submission is not a female word. It's a Christian word. Submit to one another. Then he gives you illustrations in the family. Wives, submit to your husbands as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now, as the Church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. And then he talks to the husbands about what submission looks like for them. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her. To make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the Word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife, loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body. But he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the Church. For we are members of his body. For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother, be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. This is a profound mystery, but I am talking about Christ and the Church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself. And the wife must respect her husband. Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Honor your father and mother, which is the first commandment, with a promise. What is the promise? That it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth. Fathers, do not exasperate your children. Instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. A very familiar passage, but I think sometimes we have read it and heard it so many times that we fail to get the points. So I want to try to share with you tonight the five fundamentals of a healthy family which grow out of this passage. Number one, an attitude of service. Look at the words in this passage that describe the various family members. It says in verse 23 that the wives are to submit in verse 25 that the husbands are to love and give themselves away to their wives like Christ did. Children are to obey and honor their parents. Fathers are to instruct their children. Every one of those requires an attitude of service. In fact, verse 21 says that that service is to permeate the whole family. Actually, it's very difficult to reject service. I remember a young man who said to me, he said, doc Chapman, he said, we got married and. And my wife served me breakfast in bed every morning for a month, he said. Took me a month to work up the courage to tell her that I don't eat breakfast. It's hard to reject service. I did a little research on my own some years ago and I found out that not a single wife in the history of this nation has ever been murdered. Her husband, while he was washing dishes. Not one. You see, there's something that is Christian about serving. You know, children from the very youngest of age have the attitude of service. I mean, they can be four years old and what are they saying? Mommy, can I help you? Mommy, can I help you? Daddy, can I help you? They want to help. It's too bad they forget that by the time they get to be teenagers. But the reality is that in a healthy family, there'll be an attitude of service. The husband will serve his wife, the wife will serve her husband, they will serve the children. The children will learn how to serve each other and how to serve the parents, and then they will export it and take it out into the community. This is at the heart of a healthy church. It's at the heart of a healthy family. So I want to give you a couple of ideas on how to build this into your family. A couple of games you can play with your family. I call the first game. I really appreciate that. Now, here's the way you play the game. Somebody in the family says to another family member, one way in which I served you today is I made your oatmeal or whatever. And the other family member says, I really appreciate that. Why don't you try it right now? Just turn to the person beside of you if they're in your family and say, one of the things I appreciate about you is. And tell them something. And then remember your response is just to say, I appreciate that. Yeah. You see, the fact is, there's a whole lot of service going on in all of our families. In fact, if we didn't have some measure of this, we wouldn't even be here. I mean, somebody has to do a whole lot of stuff in the family, and we need to come to recognize that. And this is one way of bringing it up on the top burner and saying, in our family, we serve each other, and we also have a spirit of appreciation for the people who are serving each other. And then you take it beyond the family and you go out into the community. One way you can do it is to have a begin is to have a daily sharing time at your family in which everybody gets to share. One act of service I did today is, do you all have meals together at least once a day? I hope you do. Imagine this sitting around the table. Everybody around the table gets to tell the family, one act of service I did today is. And they tell you something they did outside the family. Little Johnny says, well, today Susie dropped her pencil and the lead broke. And I picked it up and took it to the pencil sharpener and sharpened it for Susie. He's telling something he did today to serve somebody. And when he gets through, everybody around the table says, yay, Johnny. And then Mary gets to tell something, and then Mama gets to tell something, and daddy gets to tell something. You understand what we're doing? We're communicating to our family. This family is all about service. Service is a big deal. And everybody is learning how to serve outside the family. Incredible what it does for children. And then you can also have a family project in which you serve outside the family. The whole family does something together. Maybe you make cookies and take them to a shut in. One of the things I used to do with our kids, my wife and I, we loved to do. It was in the fall, when the leaves all fall, we'd put three or four rakes in the back of the car, and we'd drive the neighborhood looking for yards that had leaves still in the yard. And I'd knock on the door and I'd say, hi, I'm Gary Chapman, and I have my family with me, and I'm trying to teach my family how to serve people. And I notice that your leaves need raking. And if you don't mind, we'd like to rake your leaves for you. And usually they would say, say what? And I'd repeat my little speech. And many of them would say, oh, I will pay you to do my leaves. I've been looking for somebody to do my leaves. I said, no, no, we don't want pay. I'm trying to teach my kids how to serve people. And if you would let us have the opportunity, we'd like to serve you. You know, I never had anybody who wouldn't let us rake their leaves. You understand what we're doing? We're trying to help our children understand this is what life is all about. We serve each other, and then we go out in the community and we serve people. Imagine what would happen in this country if this attitude permeated every family. Country, wow. And this is just one thing, but it's an important thing, an attitude of service in the family. And for the Christian, you know, Colossians 3:23 says, whatever you do in word or deed, do it with your whole heart, as though you were doing it for Jesus. So you're not just raking leaves for somebody in the neighborhood, you're raking leaves for Jesus. That puts it on a whole new realm. And you're teaching your children. When we serve others, we're serving Jesus. Second characteristic of a healthy family, there will be intimacy between the husband and the wife. In a healthy family. Notice what it says in verse 31. For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. It speaks of deep, deep, deep intimacy coming together in a very, very deep way. You know, in Genesis chapter 2 and verse 18, God said about Adam, it is not good for man to be alone. The word means cut off or isolated. If you've ever been in a single man's apartment, you'll know it's not good for man to be alone. And God said in Genesis 2:24, exactly what we read here in Ephesians 5:31, that a man leaves his father and mother, is joined to his wife, and the two become one flesh. God's answer to aloneness and isolation is intimacy in a marriage. Now, when some people hear the word intimacy, they only think of one thing, and that's the sexual part of the marriage. But it's far, far deeper than that. It talks about intellectual intimacy, the sharing of thoughts, opinions, and desires. You know, some couples have stopped sharing their thoughts and their opinions because when they shared them, the spouse said, well, that's not right. I mean, that's. And they put their ideas down. After a while, they figure, well, I'm not going to share what I'm thinking, what I'm feeling, because they're just going to clobber me on the head. And no one likes to be clobbered. You know, anything your spouse says, you can at least say, that's an interesting thought. You know, I mean, we don't have to put it all down. Listen to them. In a healthy marriage, people will be shared. Couples will share with each other their thoughts, their opinions, their desires. And it doesn't mean we agree with each other, but we give each other the freedom to have thoughts and feelings and desires, and we share them with each other because we are a couple. It also involves emotional intimacy, the sharing of feelings, the ability to say, you know, I felt pretty discouraged today when da da da da da da da da da happened. We're not traveling alone. We have a spouse, and so we're going to share emotions with each other. You know, one of the things I teach couples to do in my marriage seminars is to have a little daily sharing time in which each of you shares with the other three things that happen in your life today and how you feel about them. Just tell me three things that happened today and how you feel about them. It's amazing what happens when you begin to share what happened during the day with each other and how you feel about those three things. Emotional intimacy. This is where the love language concept comes in. It's building emotional intimacy in the relationship. You know, deep within every one of us, there's the desire to feel loved. And if you're married, the person you would most like to love you is your spouse. In fact, if you feel loved by your spouse, life is beautiful. If you don't feel loved by your spouse and you feel like inside they don't love me, they wish they weren't married to me, the world can begin to look pretty dark. If we learn how to speak each other's love language, we meet that emotional need for love, and we keep the love tank full, and life is much easier to process. And then there's social intimacy. We share experiences with each other. You know, let's face it, for most couples, we're apart more than we're together, if you don't count the sleeping time. We're off doing our jobs or whatever during the day. We have a few hours together in the evening or whatever our work schedule is, of course. But, you know, we spend a lot of time away from each other, but we share what we were doing during the day. And then we're also going out and doing some things together. Did you hear the story about the Midwestern farmer? A tornado came through and lifted the roof right off his house. He and his wife were in bed, and it lifted the bed and them right out of the top of the roof and set them out in the field beside the house. And the wife was just crying hysterically. And he said, honey, honey, it's okay. Don't cry, honey. We're all right. We're on the ground, honey, we're safe. It's all right. And she said, I'm not crying because I'm afraid. I'm crying because I'm happy. This is the first time we've been out of the house together in six months. So I am asking you, if you're married, have you been out of the house together in the last six months? We do some things together, and then it involves spiritual intimacy, sharing our relationship with God. You know, we're not always on the same page on our journey. Sometimes one is further along in the journey than the other. You don't have to be together, but you share your journey with each other. In a healthy marriage, we're talking about spiritual things together. One of the ways we do that is worshiping together. There's something about standing beside your spouse and hearing them sing or seeing them lift their hands that says to you inside, we're together with God. We're walking together with God. And then there's praying together. You know what I find? That not more than 15% of the Christian couples pray with each other on a daily basis. If you don't count, thank you for the food. Amen. You know what I teach couples is to start off easy. And that is, you start off with silent prayer. Phew. Sounds easy already, doesn't it? Silent prayer. Here's the way you do it. You hold hands, you close your eyes, you Pray silently, and when you get through, you say amen, so they'll know you're through. And you hang on until they say Amen. Now, is anybody here thinks you couldn't do that? I tell you, if you're sitting by your spouse, let's just try the mechanics. If you're sitting by your spouse, reach over and hold hands. Yeah. If you're by yourself, hold your own hand. Let's close our eyes, and let's pray silently. And then let's say amen out loud. Did pretty good on that. Amen. That's good. Now, you know what will happen if you start doing that? Every night, about six months down the road, one of you will slip up and pray out loud. When you do, you'll break the sound barrier. But if you never pray out loud, it'll help you. You know, I had a lady come to me one time after my seminar, and I taught them how to do this. And she said, Dr. Chapman, I don't think I can do that. And I said, well, why? She said, because I'm not a Christian. She said, my husband's a Christian, but I'm a Wiccan, a witch. Whew. Don't know how he got into that. And I said, oh, God, give me wisdom. And I said to her, you know, we all have to be where we are. And right now you're telling me where you are, but you also recognize your husband is a Christian. So maybe you could disrespect his belief in God and hold his hand and close your eyes and let him pray. And then you could say amen, and he could say amen. And she said, you know, I think I could do that. You see, folks, we have to be where we are. But if we're going to have a healthy marriage, we've got to share where we are in the journey. And then there's physical intimacy, the sharing of our bodies. It's such things as holding hands, kissing, embracing the whole sexual part of the marriage. Arm around the shoulder, driving down the road, you put your hand on their leg, sitting around the house, and they walk by and you trip them. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. In a healthy marriage, there will be physical intimacy. In a healthy family, the husband and wife will have intimacy. These kind of things will be happening to a greater or lesser degree and will be moving toward a greater degree. In a healthy marriage, this is what it looks like. Now, let's face it. There are many children today in our culture who have never seen a mother and daddy who had an intimate relationship. In fact, many of them don't even have a father. And if you're a single mom, let me just encourage you. You need to teach your children what it would look like if you had a godly man in the house. They need to know what would be happening if you had a godly man in the house and was working with you. Again, we have to be where we are, but we got to teach our children what health looks like. Otherwise, they grow up and don't even know what health looks like. So do whatever you can. And that's where that big brother big sister deal we talked about earlier, that can be very helpful that somebody outside the family can serve to help them get a picture of what it would be like if there was a godly person in the house with their mother.
John Fuller
Well, some great advice from Dr. Gary Chapman on today's episode of Focus on the Family with Jim Daly. And we're going to have more insight into family dynamics, especially as those relate to parenting next time.
Jim Daly
That's right, John. Will be well worth the listen. And let me just reflect on Dr. Chapman's last point today. If you're a single parent, my heart goes out to you. I was raised by a single mom and I understand the challenges that it brings. My mom worked three jobs at times to pay the bills for the family of five kids, yet she always had a cheerful attitude. I look back on it, I'm amazed that she was able to do it all. And we had no extended family to give her any help. We did have some great neighbors, the Hope Family, that was their last name, believe it or not. And they actually led my mom to the Lord just before she died. I'm so grateful and thankful to that family, the Hope Family. So if you're a single mom or dad, take heart. God can provide for your needs. And please reach out to us here at Focus on the Family. Our staff would be honored to hear your story and pray with you. And if you need to speak to one of our caring Christian counselors, we'll arrange for you to get a call back, please, to serve you in that way.
John Fuller
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Jim Daly
And let me remind everyone, we're able to provide our free counseling consultations because of the generous support of donors like you. So if you'd like to help families, especially single parent families, let me encourage you to become a monthly donor to focus on the Family. You can help us help others. And when you make a monthly pledge of any amount. Send you Dr. Chapman's book on this subject. It's called Five Traits of a Healthy Steps you can take to grow closer, communicate better and change the world together. And if you can't make a monthly pledge right now, we understand we can send you the book for a one time gift of any amount. And as an added bonus, we'll include a free audio download of Gary's entire presentation. So get in touch with us today.
John Fuller
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Focus on the Family with Jim Daly
Episode Release Date: February 19, 2025
In this engaging episode of Focus on the Family with Jim Daly, hosts Jim Daly and John Fuller delve into strengthening family dynamics through the insights of renowned counselor and author, Dr. Gary Chapman. Drawing from his extensive experience and bestselling work on the five Love Languages, Dr. Chapman presents five vital traits essential for cultivating a healthy and thriving family.
John Fuller opens the discussion with a compelling quote from Lee Iacocca, highlighting the enduring significance of the family as an institution:
"The only rock I know that stays steady, the only institution I know that works is the family."
— John Fuller [00:00]
Jim Daly emphasizes the universality of this belief, setting the stage for Dr. Chapman's insights on maintaining a steadfast family unit.
Dr. Chapman stresses that an attitude of service underpins all healthy family interactions. This involves each family member actively serving one another, fostering an environment of mutual respect and care.
"Every one of those requires an attitude of service."
— Dr. Gary Chapman [04:30]
Key Concepts:
Examples:
"In a healthy family, there'll be an attitude of service. The husband will serve his wife, the wife will serve her husband, they will serve the children."
— Dr. Gary Chapman [09:15]
Intimacy is multifaceted, encompassing emotional, intellectual, social, spiritual, and physical dimensions. Dr. Chapman underscores that deep intimacy is foundational to a robust marital relationship.
"In a healthy family, there will be intimacy between the husband and the wife."
— Dr. Gary Chapman [14:45]
Types of Intimacy:
Emotional Intimacy: Sharing feelings and emotional support to strengthen the marital bond.
Intellectual Intimacy: Open communication of thoughts, opinions, and ideas without fear of judgment.
"In a healthy marriage, people will be shared. Couples will share with each other their thoughts, their opinions, their desires."
— Dr. Gary Chapman [18:20]
Social Intimacy: Spending quality time together through shared activities and experiences.
"We share experiences with each other. We do some things together, and this builds social intimacy."
— Dr. Gary Chapman [19:50]
Spiritual Intimacy: Engaging in spiritual practices together, such as prayer and worship, to unify the couple’s faith journey.
"We worship together... We walk together with God."
— Dr. Gary Chapman [21:10]
Physical Intimacy: Maintaining a healthy physical connection through gestures of affection and sexual intimacy.
"In a healthy marriage, there will be physical intimacy. These are the things that keep the marital relationship strong."
— Dr. Gary Chapman [22:55]
Practical Tips:
Dr. Chapman also addresses single parents, emphasizing the importance of modeling healthy family traits for their children despite challenges.
"If you're a single mom, you need to teach your children what it would look like if you had a godly man in the house."
— Dr. Gary Chapman [23:00]
Supporting Single Parents:
The episode wraps up with heartfelt encouragement from the hosts, acknowledging the challenges faced by single parents and reaffirming the availability of support through Focus on the Family’s counseling services.
"If you're a single mom or dad, take heart. God can provide for your needs."
— Jim Daly [24:33]
Final Thoughts: Dr. Gary Chapman reinforces the transformative power of these five vital traits, highlighting that even amidst difficulties, families can embody these principles to foster healing and growth.
"Your marriage can be redeemed even if the fights seem constant."
— Dr. Gary Chapman [27:05]
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This episode provides invaluable insights and practical strategies for Christian families seeking to enhance their relationships and build a resilient, loving household grounded in faith and mutual respect.