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Welcome to Follow him. Favorites this is where John and I are sharing a single story to go with each week's lesson. By the way, I should say, John, these are not found in the podcast. Some people have asked me, oh, is this just a piece of the podcast? No, this is not found on the podcast. This is just because you and I like to tell stories. John. We are in sections 102 through 105 of the doctrine and Covenants this week, and you told me you have a.
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Story in section 104, verse 78. That's a long section 78. Again, verily I say unto you concerning your debts, behold, it is my will that you shall pay all your debts. I have a story from a talk called Earthly Debts, Heavenly Debts, and it was elder Joseph P. Wirthlin. I know you love him, Hank. You've quoted him before. This is April 2004. He said, Let me tell you the story of a man who sacrificed greatly to maintain his own financial integrity and honor in the 1930s. Fred Snowburger. Now, I'm not one to tease about last names for obvious reasons. Now you can, because your name is Smith Snow Burger. Sounds like something you get a Dairy Queen.
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Something you'd get at Arctic Circle.
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Yeah, Exactly. In the 1930s, Fred Snowburger opened the doors of a new pharmacy in northeastern Oregon. It had been his dream to own his own business, but an economic turnaround he had hoped for never materialized. Eight months later, Fred closed the doors of the pharmacy for the last time. Even though his business failed, he was determined to repay the loan he had secured. Some wondered why he insisted on repaying the debt. Just declare bankruptcy, have the debt legally forgiven. But Fred did not listen. He said he would repay the loan. He was determined to honor his word. His family made many of their own clothes, grew much of their food in their garden, used everything they had until it was thoroughly worn out or used up. My grandma used to say, hank, use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without. That was kind of an old saying. Rain or shine, Fred walked to and from his work each day. Every month, Fred paid what he could on the loan. Years passed. Finally, the wonderful day arrived when Fred made the last payment. He delivered it in person. The man who had loaned him the money wept. And with tears streaming down his face, he said, you not only paid back every penny, you taught me what a man of character and honesty is. To this day, nearly 70 years after Fred signed his name to that note, descendants of Fred and Erma Snowberger still tell this story. With pride. This act of honor and nobility has lived through the decades as a cherished example of family integrity. I love that it's not just the balance sheet. You taught me what a man of character and honesty is.
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That's beautiful. And that's not always possible. We get that. But in this case, it was. And the family's proud of it. I love that.
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Yeah. In the spirit of that verse of it's my will that you pay your debts. If that's the Lord's will and you need help, you could probably ask him for help to help fulfill that.
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Yeah. Up in the spirit world, you could say, I'd like to have two snow burgers, please. And have them come.
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Yes, that's right.
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Yeah. We hope you'll join us on our full podcast. It's called Follow Him. You can get it wherever you get any podcast. We are with Dr. Matt Godfrey. This week we're going through Zion's Camp. He tells some really great stories. He has one about Joseph Smith and a bugle that you're going to love.
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That's right.
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And then come back and join us next week we'll do another Follow him favorites.
In this "followHIM Favorites" mini-episode, hosts Hank Smith and John Bytheway share a personal, stand-alone story to complement the week’s "Come, Follow Me" lesson, focusing on themes of integrity, financial responsibility, and family legacy inspired by Doctrine & Covenants Section 104:78. The episode aims to offer listeners an uplifting real-life example related to scriptural teachings, separate from their main podcast content.
"Some people have asked me, oh, is this just a piece of the podcast? No, this is not found on the podcast. This is just because you and I like to tell stories." – Hank Smith [00:09]
"Again, verily I say unto you concerning your debts, behold, it is my will that you shall pay all your debts." – John Bytheway (paraphrasing scripture) [00:27]
"Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without." – John Bytheway [01:45]
"You not only paid back every penny, you taught me what a man of character and honesty is." – Elder Joseph B. Wirthlin (quoted by John Bytheway) [02:41]
"That's beautiful. And that's not always possible. We get that. But in this case, it was. And the family's proud of it." – Hank Smith [03:01]
"If that's the Lord's will and you need help, you could probably ask him for help to help fulfill that." – John Bytheway [03:09]
"Snow Burger. Sounds like something you get a Dairy Queen." – John Bytheway [00:55] "Something you'd get at Arctic Circle." – Hank Smith [01:16]
"Up in the spirit world, you could say, 'I'd like to have two snow burgers, please.' And have them come." – Hank Smith [03:22]
On Family Mottos and Sacrifice:
"Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without." – John Bytheway [01:45]
On Lasting Influence:
"This act of honor and nobility has lived through the decades as a cherished example of family integrity." – Elder Joseph B. Wirthlin (as quoted by John Bytheway) [02:56]
On Spiritual Application:
"If that's the Lord's will and you need help, you could probably ask him for help to help fulfill that." – John Bytheway [03:09]
Tone: Warm, humorous, and faith-affirming — the hosts maintain friendly rapport and a spirit of encouragement throughout.
For Listeners: This episode is ideal for anyone seeking an inspiring example of living gospel principles in modern life, especially as related to honesty, self-reliance, and family legacy.