Avery Woods TELLS ALL! This is a juicy one

Summary

Fool Coverage with Manny MUA and Laura Lee Episode: Avery Woods TELLS ALL! This is a juicy one
Release Date: August 1, 2025

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Introduction to Avery Woods

In this episode of Fool Coverage, hosts Manny MUA and Laura Lee welcome a very special guest, Avery Woods—a renowned TikTok star, podcaster, and former nurse. Avery dives deep into her journey from the demanding world of healthcare to the fast-paced realm of social media influencing, sharing candid insights and personal anecdotes that resonate with both aspiring influencers and those juggling multiple roles.

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Avery’s Transition from Nursing to Social Media [01:19 - 03:00]

Avery begins by recounting her humble beginnings as a registered nurse (RN), balancing a full-time career with raising her children. She explains how her passion for social media started during nursing school, where she began posting about her experiences and nursing life.

Avery Woods [01:52]: "When you're in this industry, you just kind of, like, add on. Every month there's like a new role that you're doing or a new collab or whatever's going on."

Despite the initial hesitation, Avery's authentic content quickly gained traction, leading to brand deals with major companies like Cherokee Uniforms. This success prompted her to make the bold decision to leave nursing in October 2023, fully committing to her social media career.

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Challenges of Influencer Life and Personal Sacrifices [03:00 - 07:00]

Avery opens up about the immense challenges she faced while transitioning careers, particularly the mental and emotional toll of managing a burgeoning online presence alongside her responsibilities as a mother.

Avery Woods [06:50]: "Every single rug in my house is from Ruggable because I love them so much. I can just throw it in the wash."

Balancing the demands of content creation with family life required Avery and her husband, David, to adopt unconventional working hours. Avery emphasizes the financial and personal sacrifices they made to support their growing family and her career.

Avery Woods [05:57]: "My peak was we ordered all of our furniture for our house."

Avery shares her experiences with high-end purchases and the backlash she faced online for spending on quality items, highlighting the often unappreciated aspects of an influencer's life.

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Mental Health and Navigating Cancel Culture [25:03 - 44:37]

A significant portion of the conversation centers around the mental health struggles Avery faced amidst online negativity and cancel culture. She reveals how negative comments and relentless criticism deeply affected her, leading to thoughts of self-harm and the eventual realization of the need to set strict boundaries.

Avery Woods [44:07]: "I must cried last night because I was so mad at myself."

Avery discusses her strategies for coping, such as limiting her interaction with comments and focusing on positive engagements. She emphasizes the importance of mental health and the destructive nature of cancel culture, urging listeners to remember the humanity behind the screens.

Avery Woods [58:33]: "It's hard for me to understand. Like, when I did Stevie vlogs, people were really upset that I showed my kids. But one of my things was... I didn't want to do ads with those vlogs."

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Balancing Family and Career [37:08 - 43:27]

Avery details the intricate balance between her role as a mother and her career as an influencer. She highlights the support system she and David established, including shared responsibilities and financial strategies to ensure their family's well-being.

Avery Woods [43:08]: "We worked opposite schedules because we couldn't afford childcare. I would work three days, he would work the next four."

The conversation sheds light on the often unseen efforts behind a successful influencer's facade, showcasing Avery's dedication to her children and her career.

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Insights on the Influencer Industry and Genuine Relationships [51:05 - 65:02]

Avery contrasts the genuine, down-to-earth relationships she maintains with other influencers and celebrities against the often superficial and entitled behaviors seen in some parts of the influencer community. She shares anecdotes about meeting celebrities like Selena Gomez and observing the stark differences in attitudes among influencers based on their backgrounds and financial statuses.

Avery Woods [65:02]: "I was so naive to the fact that it was happening so often."

Avery emphasizes the importance of staying humble and authentic, refusing to adopt the diva mentality some influencers display despite their success.

Avery Woods [62:34]: "When people are like, oh my God. She's like, like when someone stops me... treating people like their things and not humans is something I will never be on board with."

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Final Thoughts and Moving Forward [58:28 - 76:32]

As the episode wraps up, Avery reflects on her personal growth and the lessons learned from her journey. She underscores the significance of setting boundaries, prioritizing mental health, and maintaining authentic connections both online and offline.

Avery Woods [60:10]: "I genuinely want to share content that makes me happy, but like the rest of my life... 95% is offline."

Hosts Manny MUA and Laura Lee commend Avery for her resilience and authenticity, highlighting her role as an inspiration for others navigating similar paths.

Manny MUA [75:55]: "What you're doing for your work... It's about blocking out, really. I think it's the way to go to an extent."

The episode concludes on a positive note, celebrating Avery’s achievements and the supportive community she has built, while also acknowledging the challenges that come with fame and influence.

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Notable Quotes

• Avery Woods [05:34]: "I had to start writing notes down where I'm like, okay. We're like, we're actually doing the reunion."
• Manny MUA [12:00]: "So I fucked up all my social media content for like the past six YouTube videos I uploaded."
• Avery Woods [35:15]: "I worked three 12 and a half hour shifts a week. He worked four 10 hour shifts a week. We would work opposite schedules because we couldn't afford childcare."
• Avery Woods [44:51]: "I've never been handed anything. It's always fallen on me."
• Avery Woods [58:33]: "It's hard for me to understand. Like, when I did Stevie vlogs, people were really upset that I showed my kids."

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Conclusion

This episode of Fool Coverage offers a raw and unfiltered look into Avery Woods' life, shedding light on the complexities of balancing a demanding career, family responsibilities, and the pressures of maintaining an online presence. Avery's honesty about her struggles and triumphs provides valuable lessons on resilience, authenticity, and the importance of mental health in the high-stakes world of social media influencing.

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Note: The timestamps correspond to the moments when the notable quotes were mentioned in the podcast transcript.

Transcript

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[Manny Mua]

Comments are like, can you take your gum out, you nasty piece of shit?

[Avery Woods]

If I add any little extra to my bonature, I'm telling you guys, it gets added quick.

[Manny Mua]

Do take what you can out of it because it will change you and make you better.

[Avery Woods]

Hey, guys, welcome back to full coverage, your favorite podcast with your hosts, Manny Mua and Laura Lee.

[Manny Mua]

We have a very special, special guest today. Okay. She's a super famous TikTok. Her.

[Avery Woods]

She was famous.

[Manny Mua]

She was once an rn. She has children. She has family. She also has a gay best friend. Welcome, everyone.

[Avery Woods]

She's our diva.

[Avery's Guest]

Wow. That was like, the most iconic intro. I'm honored. Thank you so much for having me.

[Avery Woods]

It's the truth.

[Avery's Guest]

Yes.

[Manny Mua]

Thank you, guys.

[Avery Woods]

All real things. And she's also a podcaster, too.

[Avery's Guest]

Yes.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, my God.

[Avery Woods]

No. She does it all.

[Avery's Guest]

I'm like, you forgot one of my titles.

[Manny Mua]

The list is long, you guys.

[Avery's Guest]

No, sometimes I forget, like, people write articles about me and they're like, like podcast hosts. I was like, oh, I forget that I do that.

[Avery Woods]

Is it one of your illustrious things?

[Avery's Guest]

Well, because when you're in this industry, you just kind of, like, add on.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

Like every month there's like a new role that you're doing or a new collab or whatever's going on. And I'm like, I kind of forget that that's like one of my main things now because I never expected it to really take off.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

So also, I have a cough drop in, guys, so sorry if you hear me, like, playing around with it in my mouth. That's so gross of me.

[Manny Mua]

I know. They get me. You're like, they get me for eating Rice Krispies. On here one, episode eight of Rice. Oh, and the gum. I'm a smacker, though.

[Avery's Guest]

Oh, yeah, me too. Okay, I got you.

[Avery Woods]

I love to, like, just smack my teeth and smack my lips.

[Avery's Guest]

No. Anytime I'm about to record, my producers are like, can you take your gum out of your mouth? You fucking nasty. You disgusting. Yeah. Like, get out of here.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, no, absolutely.

[Manny Mua]

That's what our comments say to us. Because no one tells me to take it out. Any of our comments are like, can you take your gum out, you nasty people?

[Avery Woods]

Now I see her with the gum.

[Manny Mua]

I'm like, yeah. No, they're like, we got roasted for you eating a Rice Krispie treat once and gum. So Rice Krispie treat is really an.

[Avery's Guest]

Interesting selection for the podcast.

[Avery Woods]

Like the rapper.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, no, it was me smacking too. Smack.

[Avery Woods]

And then rapper.

[Avery's Guest]

Thinnest, loudest rapper ever on earth.

[Avery Woods]

It's foil.

[Manny Mua]

I thought I was being slick too. I was like, stepping away.

[Avery's Guest]

No, I can, like, hear it in the car seats behind me when I'm driving. Like, I'm like all fucking eating myself.

[Avery Woods]

So I think she's all demer. She's like, this takes the smallest one.

[Avery's Guest]

Little rice thing at a time.

[Avery Woods]

It's like that horse from spongebob.

[Manny Mua]

I probably wasn't even hungry. I just wanted. I was like, I just want a rice.

[Avery's Guest]

I had a snack, dude. And if I ate, like, Laura, God bless my soul. No, no, no, no, no, no. I would go back to, like my nine month pregnancy. Wait, 100% right now. Yes.

[Avery Woods]

No, you don't get it. Let me tell you something.

[Avery's Guest]

We're locked in.

[Avery Woods]

I'm big boned.

[Manny Mua]

You guys just have to remember I'm big boned.

[Avery Woods]

So the thing is, if I add any little extra to my bonature.

[Avery's Guest]

Yep.

[Avery Woods]

Bonature by bonature. I'm telling you guys, it gets added quick.

[Avery's Guest]

No, that's what David always says. Like, you're just thick boned, like, muscular. I'm like, you can't see that.

[Avery Woods]

You're gonna piss me off.

[Avery's Guest]

Because he 7,8000 calories a day if he wants to keep his muscle.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

Because his metabolism's so fucking fast. I'm like, oh, that sucks.

[Avery Woods]

No, it's. I'm literally like, my middle brother is the same. He's super. He was naturally super skinny his whole life, and then he bulked up, but he has to eat so much and he's like, it's not fair. I want to have your build where you can just put on weight. And I'm like, You're like, babe, you.

[Avery's Guest]

Can go eat a dozen crispy food and not blink an eye. Like, if I ate that, it would hold over me for days of guilt.

[Avery Woods]

Weeks.

[Manny Mua]

No.

[Avery's Guest]

Weeks. Yeah. No, it's bad. It's actually probably unhealthy.

[Avery Woods]

Well, we usually like to start our episodes with peaks and pits, where it's, like, our, like, fun thing of the week and our, like, just kind of thing of the week.

[Avery's Guest]

That's so Kardashian.

[Avery Woods]

So it is. I kind of. It kind of is.

[Manny Mua]

You know, Nick on Love island was like, said, all right, what's everybody's peak? And pit? Yeah. And they were like, oh, not too much.

[Avery Woods]

All of our dm. All of our dms. I'm like, yeah, Nick, you actual coverage or what?

[Manny Mua]

For sure, he did.

[Avery's Guest]

You were like, we were actually supposed to host that peek and pen.

[Avery Woods]

We're like, we're actually doing the reunion.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, my God. Can you imagine asking the real questions and getting fired? No, I'm getting fired.

[Avery's Guest]

But people will be tuning in.

[Avery Woods]

You know, the thing is, I would want to ask the fierce questions, though. Of course, the problem is that they become almost, like, so media trained that they navigate every question. Now, I like Andy Cohen.

[Avery's Guest]

Like, I would.

[Avery Woods]

And he's doing it.

[Manny Mua]

And you know how Andy does it? He always reads a tweet from a fan, but it's like, the most bland, horrible question. So fans say you're a dirty piece of shit. Do you think that's true?

[Avery Woods]

Agree.

[Avery's Guest]

But he can say it because he's not saying it.

[Manny Mua]

He's just reading what a fan said. He's so clever.

[Avery's Guest]

You know, maybe someone's writing them and then we're pretending.

[Avery Woods]

I also feel like he Butters as well. He can, like, butter up. He's very charismatic.

[Avery's Guest]

No, he's great.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, he's good at it.

[Avery's Guest]

He's great.

[Manny Mua]

I'm very excited. I love Adriana. She's gonna host it with him. So I think it'll be great.

[Avery's Guest]

I can't wait. Okay, what's. Everyone's peeking.

[Manny Mua]

Pit, you start.

[Avery's Guest]

Oh, God, my pit is that my kids are sick. So I was up all night long the last two nights. They got something from camp, you know, same shit, different week. My peak was we ordered all of our furniture for our house.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, my God, that's so exciting.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, because when we sold our home in Arizona, we sold us fully furnished because. Yeah, because we bought our house when we were a cop and a nurse. And, like, to be honest, I was getting most of my furniture from, like, wayfair or like Target, which. Nothing wrong with that. But my dining table is like $300, so I didn't give a shit if my kids are like, coloring on it. You know what I mean? Like, when we bought our house and we're doing a remodel for those that don't know. And so I was like, I'm gonna design my dream home. I've worked so hard, and I've never in my life been able to afford nice furniture or to design it the way that I love and like, make my Pinterest board dreams come true. So we did all of our furniture this week. So that was like.

[Manny Mua]

Yes. What's your most expensive piece of furniture? A rug. I'm just kidding. Rugs are so expensive.

[Avery's Guest]

To be honest with you. Every single rug in my house is from ruggable because I love them so much.

[Avery Woods]

And they can like, re.

[Manny Mua]

Like, I have two washable rugs and they're very durable too. Yes.

[Avery's Guest]

Because I don't stress when my kids are walking around with snacks, which, like, you can have a rol.

[Manny Mua]

Like. Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

You sit at the table. It's never gonna happen. My six year old boy is so all over the place that he's fucking drinking, like red dye. 40 drinks or fruit roll. Yeah. Some shit that's gonna stain.

[Manny Mua]

Right?

[Avery's Guest]

And so I'm like, I love that. I can just throw it in the wash. Yeah. My most expensive item, I think were we got two big cozy chairs for the living room that are sherpa. Those were pretty pricey. And then like my bed frame, like the big one because it's like a big canopy bed. That was probably my most expensive. Honestly, it was cheaper for us to custom make a couch than go to like, our house or West Elm and go buy it. Those our house couches are like 16G.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

We custom. Which by the way, because of the tariffs, six to 12 months delivery time. And I was like, we're not gonna have a couch. This local lady is custom building it the exact way I want. I got to pick, like, how firm, how soft, the depth, the material. She's having it done in two to three weeks. And it was seven grand.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, my God.

[Avery's Guest]

Our house, one that I was looking at was $16,000, and it was gonna take a year to get here. And I was like, oh, I can make it any way I want. So like, obviously two years ago I would be like $7,000. Yeah. But when I'm like, out shopping around, I'm like, no. Like, that's the cost of furniture. Now it's crazy.

[Avery Woods]

Furniture is just crazy price.

[Manny Mua]

Exactly. And it has gone up. When we. I looked at getting the cloud couch for my house, but it was so much money. This girl online just kept on. Influencer got me. She was like, get the dupe, you guys. This thing is perfect.

[Avery Woods]

Influencer lied.

[Avery's Guest]

You're lying.

[Manny Mua]

And I paid like 6,7000 for the dupe because it was like, half the cost.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, for sure, girl.

[Manny Mua]

It was the cheapest. It looked pretty, but it didn't look like the cloud couch. It was the most uncomfortable. It, like, felt like we were sitting on this wood table.

[Avery's Guest]

Can I ask where it was from?

[Manny Mua]

It was a custom company that made them in Texas. And they were like, duping the cloud couch, but my God, it was a dude.

[Avery Woods]

It wasn't. No.

[Avery's Guest]

See, I, like, met with this lady. We, like, felt the cushions. Like, one was a little too firm, one was a little too soft. And then because David is, like, so freakishly tall, we needed something with, like, extra depth or else his knees just like.

[Manny Mua]

So that was one of the problems with the dupe. Zero depth babes. I mean, you're sitting straight up and then no back support.

[Avery's Guest]

No. See, that's my worst nightmare. And then our living room, you can, like, walk around the whole back of the couch. So we made it, like really wide with, like a cushion so the kids can sit on the back and like, walk around. It's, like, very kid friendly.

[Manny Mua]

That's amazing.

[Avery's Guest]

So I was like, I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna buy a $15,000 fucking stark white couch that all these people have. I'm like, it's just not practical.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

Dave and I were like, yes. We're investing a lot of money, but our house needs to be livable. Yeah. It can't be a museum, right?

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

Of little kids. Like, we have to be able to maintained 100%.

[Manny Mua]

So I ended up buying the cloud couch. I bought two couches instead of just paying the price for the one that I wanted.

[Avery Woods]

More of the stuff. Heat your pools.

[Avery's Guest]

And then when you're like, I did.

[Manny Mua]

One episode, I to heat their pools. So to 90 degrees.

[Avery's Guest]

Here's the thing. If you're on your couch every day and it's uncomfortable. No, no. It is our main couch.

[Avery Woods]

And, like, I was always on it. And Manny and I was like, all right.

[Manny Mua]

He campaigned for the.

[Avery Woods]

I campaigned. I had to start, like, writing notes down where I'm like, okay.

[Avery's Guest]

He's like, I'll contribute.

[Avery Woods]

This is getting crazy. I'm putting in 10%.

[Manny Mua]

So we take half of his full.

[Avery Woods]

She takes half my commission.

[Avery's Guest]

I'm so.

[Avery Woods]

And we're good.

[Manny Mua]

We're good. No, I'm kidding. I paid for it. But I'm so happy for you because I know this feeling, and it's the best feeling in the world.

[Avery's Guest]

It's so cool. It is the best. I am. You know, when you spend that kind of money, though, when you, like, don't come from a lot, you're like, am I gonna be okay?

[Manny Mua]

And there's like, a guilt almost, because.

[Avery's Guest]

I have immense guilt.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. Immense skill. But you're feeling wrong about that because I read a book which rewired my relationship with money. As someone who didn't come into money and then came into money very quickly, I had a really negative relationship with money. It was like, be frugal and, like, don't invest in, like, all these negative outside. So I read a book on it. You're a badass and making money. And it rewired my mindset on money.

[Avery's Guest]

Oh, okay. That's what it's called.

[Manny Mua]

Yep.

[Avery's Guest]

Okay. I'm. I'm a big reader.

[Avery Woods]

I think you would really like it.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, I love my Kindle because I go through books so quickly. I just need to be able to download.

[Manny Mua]

I need to get one.

[Avery's Guest]

Get the paper white. It's so good because it looks like a book.

[Manny Mua]

That's what I mean. That's why I'm still glowing. Okay. That's what I don't like.

[Avery's Guest]

I'm telling you, I will charge that maybe once a month. It lasts for ever.

[Manny Mua]

Okay, I'll get that.

[Avery Woods]

I like that.

[Avery's Guest]

And be your affiliate. And you can immediately. I'm so dead. And you can download books on the ghost. Like, when I'm traveling, I read a book and I finish. I'm like, usually I have to, like, go buy a book so you can just download it from the Amazon store. It's the best.

[Manny Mua]

I'm gonna get that.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. I'm like, in a walking ad for Kindle, but I just fucking love it.

[Manny Mua]

That's amazing. I'll get into that 100%.

[Avery's Guest]

Okay. I want to hear peaks and pits, people.

[Manny Mua]

I'll go.

[Avery Woods]

You go.

[Manny Mua]

So I fucked up all my social media content for, like, the past six YouTube videos I uploaded.

[Avery Woods]

No, you didn't.

[Manny Mua]

So Final Cut had an up update, which is the editing system that I edit my videos in. And in the update, when you save your video, it automatically puts it in 720p.

[Avery's Guest]

And because quality. Yes. Oh, I'd be so mad.

[Manny Mua]

Six videos. Because I Don't watch my own videos. And yes, I click them to comment back to people, but I don't watch the video. Like I just pause. Yeah. And scroll. I've already edited to perfection. My editor Ed said. Then I run through it. So it's gone through two passes. I upload it. So last night I clicked my video to comment back to people and I was like, someone said your video looks like a piece of straight up said. I'm like, how does this comment go through? But someone's like, I love you, Laura. Blocked.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

They're like, this is spam anyways. They're like, your video looks like. Like a piece of shit. Seriously, it's so blurry. Get a new camera. And I'm like, what the. I shoot in 4K. Like it does it. And I scroll up and I was like, oh shit, it is blurry. And then I saw it since 7:20. So I was like, what the fuck happened? So Ty was saving your videos in 720. So I was like, maybe it was just this video. And it was six videos back. So that's two months.

[Avery's Guest]

My God.

[Manny Mua]

That I haven't checked. And YouTube suppresses your views if it's not able to get to hd. So if you look at my channel, it's like certain amount of you certain amount of use. And at that sixth video, just drop. And all of them have the same views. So I myself and what happened was I was buying a new camera today. Today I'm literally buying a brand new camera from YouTube just because my camera's old. It's great, but it's old and I want like a new, more efficient one. And so I was doing research and this what came to like make me realize I've been up my the whole time.

[Avery's Guest]

Oh my God. It's a disaster.

[Avery Woods]

That would send me into rage.

[Manny Mua]

I'm like sorry to all the sponsors.

[Avery's Guest]

And I'm so ocd. That would drive me.

[Manny Mua]

I must cried last night because I was so mad at myself.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, because it could have been. It's like, how would you have known? It's just like a little.

[Manny Mua]

And I work so hard to make good ass content. And it looks like, honestly like when you watch it, it looks like it looks like I filmed on a potato for six. Goddamn. I'm like, y' all want. No one wanted to send me a DL and be like, hey Laura, y' all tell me everything else. Y' all didn't want to be like, hey Laura, your content is trash, babe.

[Avery's Guest]

They didn't want to tell you because they're like, yes.

[Avery Woods]

They're like, we love.

[Avery's Guest]

The haters are like, yes.

[Manny Mua]

We got her.

[Avery's Guest]

Finally. Her quality looks like shit. Because they're like, I can't lie. Her quality is fire.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, well, it's about to be a lot because I figured it out.

[Avery's Guest]

Well, you figured out now you're back better than ever, babe.

[Manny Mua]

Exactly. We're moving forward with the best content.

[Avery's Guest]

And what's your peak? Gotta hear the positives.

[Manny Mua]

That's a good question. I need to look that up. Manny, tell us.

[Avery Woods]

Okay, I'll tell my. I'll tell my pit. So I went to like kind of a warehouse party the other day. Oh, a gay warehouse party.

[Avery's Guest]

Was that the one you sent me a video at?

[Manny Mua]

That was the corn party.

[Avery Woods]

That was different. That was the corn. That was the corn party. This one was like literally like a gay party. And so I was there and it was fun. I was chilling, I was having a good time. I just randomly got like so insecure there because everyone started. All the guys are taking off their shirts and they were all like six, packed, ripped, insanely just built, built muscle men. And I was not one of the few, but there was a couple people that had their shirts on still. And I wasn't in the vibe to take off my shirt and party at everyone. So it was just one of those things where I was self reflecting. I was like, why do I feel insecure about that? Why was I kind of going through it mentally? And it's just. Cause I was surrounded by literal muscle men. And it just kind of like it inspired me in a way though. Cause I feel like I'm gonna work out and get to a spot where I'm like, hell yeah, I'll do that. And I'll take off my shirt and a crowd of. But in the moment I was really like, ooh. I felt spooked.

[Manny Mua]

Spooky.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. I was so spooked, you guys. I was gagged. I just didn't. I'm also like not like a warehouse party goer. Like I just went cause my friend had an extra ticket and I was like, absolutely. I'm sorry.

[Manny Mua]

Explain what a warehouse party is in la.

[Avery Woods]

Warehouse party is basically like whether it's in downtown, like east Hollywood. So it's basically like just like a big party. It almost feels like a rave. Like music wise. But I think a lot of people are like on like hella drugs and they're like the reason they're taking off their shirt because they're so hot from the amount of drugs that they're on. So they're literally, like, not only hot.

[Manny Mua]

Physically, but have you thought about doing more drugs at the park?

[Avery Woods]

I thought about it also.

[Avery's Guest]

Those people don't have any insecurities because they're so up that they're like.

[Avery Woods]

They're like, it. They don't care. If I was rolling, I'm sure I would think the same thing. I would probably be, like, not feeling, but because I also am, like, sober.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

So I'm even more in my head about those things. And literally, like, you see a sea of hot muscle guys, and I'm just kind of like, why am I here?

[Manny Mua]

For that. You're hot.

[Avery's Guest]

Can I just say, Scott and I talk about how hard you are daily.

[Manny Mua]

I'm like, you're hot.

[Avery Woods]

Okay. See the thing. I think I'm attractive too. Like, I. I'm not saying I don't think that everyone. I think that when you're thrown. Yeah. They mind. And I'm like, when you're thrown into that setting, when I don't feel comfortable enough doing that, it makes you kind of feel like, whoa. Yeah, well, like, wait, what am I. Like, why am I feeling like this? So kind of like, I'm. I'm the type. Like, Laura's, like, kind of taught me to, like, kind of follow a feeling where I was like, okay, if I feel like I'm insecure about this, like, why am I feeling insecure about it? And then I'm kind of thinking about, like, oh, well, I could be working harder at the gym or doing more, like, kind of thing. So it's gonna get to a spot where I'm feeling better about it. But it is really interesting when you're in that moment when you're kind of, like, looking around introspectively and you're like, wow, Like. Like, everyone is, like, ripped as right here. And it's kind of crazy that everyone's, like, in their zone, they're all making out, and I'm just kind of like, with my friend in the corner with our shirts on your, like. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, this is so cool. I. I still had a great time because it was actually really fun and I was happy. I went and I would go again. But it was one of those things where I was just kind of like, I'm feeling insecure right now.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Muscle gays in LA are fierce.

[Avery Woods]

They are. It's because it's LA, dude.

[Avery's Guest]

Everyone in LA, I walk around and I'm like, 100%. It's beyond. Sometimes I, like, I'm like, like, do you. Have you ever eaten a carb?

[Avery Woods]

100%.

[Avery's Guest]

When I see people, I'm like, this is.

[Avery Woods]

Well, I know these guys don't. That's why they change their whole life to be hot. And, like, I don't think I'll ever be a person where I want to change my whole life to be hot.

[Avery's Guest]

But you are hot.

[Avery Woods]

Well, thank you.

[Avery's Guest]

I know.

[Avery Woods]

But I don't think I'll ever be the person. Thank you. I'll never be the person where I know that I'm, like, having, like, a 10% body fat. Like, I just know I'm not that person. No, I won't either. Eat. And, like, I want to enjoy my life in that way, and they live to do that, so I can't even expect that of me. But I think that naturally I was comparing in that moment. It's like, they're also fellow gays there, and they're like, bodies are crazy. And I'm like, okay, well, I won't ever get there, but I'm gonna get close, period.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, well, that's awesome.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. So that was my thing.

[Avery's Guest]

Tell me. Repeat.

[Manny Mua]

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[Avery Woods]

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[Avery Woods]

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[Manny Mua]

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[Avery Woods]

I just started watching the summer I turned pretty.

[Avery's Guest]

I saw your last night. You were crying hysterically.

[Avery Woods]

I've never seen I cried hysterically.

[Manny Mua]

It's good.

[Avery Woods]

Do you watch it too?

[Manny Mua]

I have watched the whole season. Huh.

[Avery Woods]

Did you cry at the end too?

[Manny Mua]

Yes.

[Avery's Guest]

It's a book. Yeah?

[Manny Mua]

Yes.

[Avery Woods]

Is it a book?

[Manny Mua]

It's okay.

[Avery's Guest]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

So I watched it because I, I asked, I was like what are you guys watching now that Love Islands? I was like, what's everyone watching? The most people said was the summer.

[Avery's Guest]

Because the new season just came out.

[Avery Woods]

Just came out. So I was kind of like okay, cool. So I started it last night around like, like 9:00pm I was like, cool. I'll watch one episode. I watched the whole season.

[Manny Mua]

Oh yeah.

[Avery Woods]

In one night.

[Manny Mua]

It's one of those though.

[Avery Woods]

I had to it though cuz it.

[Manny Mua]

Leaves you on a hook on every end of every episode.

[Avery Woods]

I watched every episode and I think I went better on like three. I think because I finished the last episode. I was like, okay, there's only seven I can get through. Was insanely good. It's kind of cringy at times. Like don't get me wrong, there's like some moments where kind of like it's like a teeny bopper show. So you're going to feel kind of.

[Manny Mua]

Like it has a soap opera essence sense.

[Avery Woods]

Yes.

[Manny Mua]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

And you know what it reminds me of so sirens. I'm thinking like the, the brothers that were into like Elena.

[Manny Mua]

That's not what I was gonna say.

[Avery's Guest]

It reminds me and I've watched that like six times. So now I'll definitely.

[Avery Woods]

I think I'm not kidding you. I think you'll be into it because the both brothers remind me of each brother of Vampire Diaries.

[Manny Mua]

Do you remember that show we used to watch? Revenge?

[Avery Woods]

Revenge.

[Avery's Guest]

I loved Revenge. I loved Revenge.

[Avery Woods]

Revenge was my actual.

[Avery's Guest]

I remember the first couple episodes. Like, this is so cheesy. Then I was like, like, oh, locked in.

[Avery Woods]

I was locked in. I watched Revenge like a psychopath. So it kind of feels like a.

[Manny Mua]

Like, Gen Z soap opera. A Gen Z revenge.

[Avery Woods]

And honestly, like, like I was saying, it's kind of like Vampire Diaries, where obviously it's different. Like, not mystical, but there's like this aspect of, like, the two brothers and the girl. And it's like kind of like, you know, that, like, oh, one's like a darker, intense, like, moody brother, and one's like the more golden retriever brother love triangle.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

You have to see, my issue is it takes me so long to finish a show because I can't watch a show until my kids are down. But then I'm such a loser that I'm like, falling asleep. Of course, you know when people are like.

[Manny Mua]

And I don't.

[Avery's Guest]

I grieve.

[Avery Woods]

You're like, oh, yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

You know, people are like, this is what I miss before kids. Like, I miss, like, my pre baby body. Or, like, I miss going out and, like, clubbing all night. No, I miss sitting in bed and just watching an entire season of a show. Cause I'm a lazy piece of shit.

[Avery Woods]

Yes.

[Avery's Guest]

I'm like, oh, no, it's bliss.

[Avery Woods]

Boy, we'll say it is bliss.

[Avery's Guest]

It's just like doing absolutely nothing. Yeah, but it's fine. I wouldn't change it for anything. Cause I know, like, actually my kids are at that age where, like, they're sleeping through the night. They didn't wake me up in the morning.

[Avery Woods]

You're getting close.

[Avery's Guest]

We're dropping them off at school all day.

[Manny Mua]

How old are they?

[Avery's Guest]

Six and four. So I'm like, this is the first time I've ever been to anything full time. The camp, their camp is from 8 to 3. And I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't know what to do with my time.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, my God, you have so much extra time.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. And now I'm getting to the point where I'm like, wait, this is so fucking sad. Like, David and I have been looking back at baby pictures because when you're like, oh, I can't wait till my kids are older. I'm like, no, fuck, stop. Stop growing. Like, I'm going to be able to binge A show soon. And I kind of hate that.

[Manny Mua]

I bet. Time goes by so fast when you're like busy with kids. Like the years go faster and like.

[Avery's Guest]

Working so much too. It's like you're always doing something and then every day you wake up and you're like, how is my kid so big, you know?

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

100%.

[Avery Woods]

We're going to have to binge it, I fear.

[Manny Mua]

Okay, yeah, binge that. Read the book.

[Avery's Guest]

Do all the things I will. I'll stay past my bedtime for you do it.

[Avery Woods]

No, I literally need you to. Cuz I know. I want to talk about it.

[Avery's Guest]

Okay.

[Manny Mua]

Okay. So we want to talk about you. Of course. Wait, you didn't say your p. Oh, my God.

[Avery Woods]

You know what?

[Manny Mua]

My peace in my phone. I was buying a new camera for my camera kind of. But yeah, there's a new camera I want.

[Avery's Guest]

You said HD quality.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. Upload it in 720 again. I'm like.

[Avery's Guest]

You'Re asking check 10 times for the rest of your life.

[Manny Mua]

I will never let that happen.

[Avery's Guest]

I'm so pissed.

[Avery Woods]

That'll never happen again, I promise you.

[Manny Mua]

It's the detail, I think after you've been uploading for dead ass 12 years, which is still shocking that I'm uploading every day. I'm like, wow, that's really crazy. But I think you become blind to certain things. You know, in that wheel of.

[Avery's Guest]

You're also just like in your routine.

[Manny Mua]

Yes. You miss things that you don't normally check. So I up but getting a new camera. Avery used to be a rn and I really like to ask questions about technically still am.

[Avery's Guest]

I have an active license.

[Manny Mua]

You know what I said used to be. I think you are. You always.

[Avery's Guest]

You have to keep your license up. Yeah. So I still have my active license. License, yeah. For sure.

[Manny Mua]

I still say my medical.

[Avery's Guest]

I only left nursing October of 2023. That's what's so crazy because dude, I didn't leave nursing. I was literally doing both full time and I had signed with my management. I was actively, actively doing brand deals. I had like 1.5 million followers on Tik Tok. And like six months into it, my team was like, we love you, but like it's. It's time to pick one or the other. You're going to kill yourself. Like it's going to be like it's gonna kill you doing what you're doing. Like you're working full time as a nurse. And then I would pre film so much content at home to be able to post on my Work days and then obviously like on top of having kids. Yeah. I was still breastfeeding Stevie at that time. Like it was just crazy.

[Manny Mua]

That's crazy. On top of having little ones. That's insane.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, but I loved it.

[Avery Woods]

What made you want to transition and get out of it and like go into content full time?

[Avery's Guest]

Well, I feel like people don't realize I have been doing it for like 10 years.

[Manny Mua]

I didn't know that.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, just like on a micro level. I first started doing social media at like probably 20ish was when I was in nursing school. And Cherokee Uniforms, which was the biggest scrub brand in the world at that time, followed me on Instagram because they saw my school uniforms were Cherokee and I was starting to post stuff about nursing and what it was was in nursing school and starting my clinical. I feel like everyone had just the most negative things to say about nursing and I was so tired of it. I was like, we're all in school busting our asses and we're following nurses who are on nursing. And I'm like what am I doing this for? To be miserable for the rest of my life? So then I would get questions from people. Cuz I, I, I remember specifically at that time was when I like first got a comma and my following. So I'd like just hit a thousand followers on Instagram like very, very small. And I was like I should start sharing like study tips or we were in our same uniform so we'd wear the same color which was like this ugly ass cobalt blue square foxy scrubs. And I was like, I could accessorizing them or like wearing cute shoes or compression socks. And so I got a DM from Cherokee uniforms and they were like, hey, can we send you scrubs in exchange for scrub photos? And I was like free scrubs? Yeah. But they were like, but you have to make your Instagram profile public.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, cause you were private.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. And I went to a private nursing school, very small school and they were very strict about social media and so it made me really, really nervous. But I was like, I'm just not going to post post anything that's like compromising of my school. And so I did and I was a really good student. Like I never, I was always very much a study non procrastinator. Like I knew my learning style and like I was the kind of person that like carried flashcards in my purse everywhere I went. So I did very good in school and would post scrub content on the side. And then my following started to grow and Then fast forward, you know, a few years later, I obviously graduated, took my nclex. I started at Rady Children's in San Diego. I worked full time night shift.

[Avery Woods]

Oh my God, Radies. I worked at Reedies. Yeah too.

[Avery's Guest]

Oh really? Wait, what department?

[Avery Woods]

I can't honestly, this was so long ago. And she did it and then she's now works like with me full time. So I can't remember the department. But she was a nurse for a long time.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, yeah, I loved it. But I always knew I wanted to peds. Like I, I told my dad I wanted to be a nurse. When I was like Stevie's age, like very, very little toddler, he would always watch medical shows. And it really interested me. Like the fact that I was watching that crazy, that that young was like. No, it was like watching crazy. No, it did like reality, like actual nurse shows, like more like documentary style, not drama. And it just really interested me for why I wanted to be a doctor. But then I just liked the more intimate connection with patients. And so I got a scholarship for college, got into nursing school, I graduated nursing school.

[Manny Mua]

That's incredible.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, 20 months. So we didn't have any breaks in between our semesters. And then yeah, when Ziggy was a newborn, I worked at Radies full time night shift. And then when we moved back to Arizona, I got hired to the picku. The unit I worked at Radies was like a step down. Pick you. So it was a lot of like long term care kids that were like tricked on a ventilator, had some sort of accident or birth defect. And then that really helped my transition into the pediatric ICU because I worked in a level one trauma, so the kids were very, very sick. Yeah. We also had open heart surgery program for kids. And then I was cross trained to the nicu. I was a SWAT nurse for a while, so I like worked the entire tower. So I'd be er, oncology, med, surge, pick you nicu and just kind of help with what people needed if they couldn't get an IV or if a kid was coding. Like that was my job. I remember being nine months pregnant, like waddling around, holding my belly, trying not to pee myself, running into codes. But yeah. So I remember my first like couple months in PICU. I think I had like 13, 000 followers or something.

[Avery Woods]

Huh.

[Avery's Guest]

But I started getting like contracts with Cherokee and started making money. So I would post three times a week for Cherokee, three photos.

[Manny Mua]

They had you locked in, honey.

[Avery's Guest]

And I made 500amonth. And it like changed Our lives, we were like, holy, we have grocery money. Like, I was. I. And I also never did social media, thinking there was money behind it, because back then.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, like, back then, there was no brand trip.

[Avery's Guest]

There was no brand trip sponsors. No. Like, I. I was like, I remember when. When that first discussion happened, I was like, wait, you can make money? Like, I was doing this for free scrubs. And I was so happy.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

And then when I found out money was involved, I was like, wait, this is so cool. So I was doing both for so long. And I think, you know, when you don't come from money, when you're both very hard working people, like, David was a sergeant for 12 years. Like, when you. When it all falls on you. It was really hard for me a, to leave nursing when social media picked up, because it was just my passion. It was what I want to do my entire life, and it supported my family. The unknown of social media is what really scared me. And then when David was promoted to sergeant, I was. And then after the pandemic, when I left the ICU and I was doing aesthetic nursing, I was like, okay, this could be my shot. And that was like, I grew a million followers on TikTok just in the month of February, in 2023.

[Avery Woods]

No way.

[Avery's Guest]

And then I didn't leave.

[Avery Woods]

Was there, like, a thing that you did that like.

[Avery's Guest]

I was doing Stevie's vlogs.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, got it.

[Avery's Guest]

And I was doing that because Ziggy was in part time presch, so he was gone three days a week for three hours a day. So it was just me and Stevie, and Stevie just has that hilarious personality. And people were doing those videos as voiceovers with cats and dogs. And I was like, wait, this is like, total Stevie energy.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, my God, I remember these videos. Yes. You just. When you said that I used to watch those videos, I, for some reason just forgot about that.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. They were so funny.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, my God. Well, you would make them so funny with the voiceover.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. And like, I have that type of humor that I just thought it was so hilarious.

[Manny Mua]

Yes. Yes. You just brought me back.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. So that was in the month of February. I gained a million followers. And then it wasn't until October of 2023 that I left nursing.

[Manny Mua]

Wow. Okay.

[Avery's Guest]

So I was.

[Manny Mua]

It happened, like, quickly on TikTok and I.

[Avery's Guest]

And I was doing Instagram for a long time, but it was again all nursing. So I. Totally.

[Avery Woods]

Different audience, too. Different vibe.

[Avery's Guest]

Yes. And I also told myself, I was like, this is why people follow you was because of nursing. And so I was like, if I leave nursing, I'm not going to have a career in this. But then when my brand deal started picking up for everything outside of nursing, beauty, because I loved makeup, I loved hair, I loved fashion, and I was getting brand deals outside of nursing, I was like, wait, okay, maybe I can support my family this way. And then I remember sitting down with the owner of the med spa, who's a good friend of mine, and she was like, you always have a place here. Like, take the leap. Like, what's. What's the worst that's gonna happen? You come back, you're still an active nurse. You still have amazing patients that love to see you. She's like, just try it. And I was so grateful for that. And so that was. Yeah, October will be two years that I left nursing.

[Manny Mua]

That's really incredible.

[Avery Woods]

So crazy.

[Manny Mua]

Now, you did a lot of this in Arizona. What made you move to California? Because you recently moved back to California.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. So Dave and I are actually both from here, so my parents live in Morro Bay. I'm from San Luis Obispo. I. I grew up in Templeton. And then my parents moved me out, out to Arizona when I was 11, going on 12. And when I graduated high school, they actually. Cause they were tired.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, they dipped on your ass?

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. They literally said, bye.

[Avery Woods]

They're like, we've had fun here.

[Manny Mua]

Everybody said, good luck. They're like, you know what? We actually hate it here.

[Avery's Guest]

Well, I told myself forever that I was gonna go back with them. But then I got a scholarship, go to school.

[Manny Mua]

Put you in school.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. And I didn't want a lot of student loans. And then David was born in La Jolla, so he's from San Diego. And then I met him when I was 18. Fast forward. When I was in nursing school. David's grandfather, who was a huge part of his life, lived in Del Cerro. He owned a nursery there forever. Was on hospice. We found out his caregiver was taking money from the family trust, and there was a lot of elder abuse going on. So David took a leave of absence from work at his police department and was his full time caregiver for an entire year. So we lived in two separate states. I was finishing nursing school.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, my God.

[Avery's Guest]

He was in San Diego taking care of his grandfather. I took 53 flights in one year. No back and forth. Cause on the weekends, I would go help him.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, yeah, Radiation babes.

[Avery's Guest]

I was literally. I was balancing nursing school. We had our two oldest daughters, Anaya and Sydney, that we had Three and a half days a week because we shared custody. And then, yeah, David was in a different state. It was a rough year.

[Avery Woods]

That year must have been just a blur, to be honest. Like, I would be just like, what the hell just happened?

[Avery's Guest]

And David always says, like, that was one of the best years of his life because he got so much time with his grandfather, who passed away at 98. So comfortable, amazing. Like, holding his hand as he took his last breath. I was like, this is how I would want to die. Like, it was so. Just incredible. And I felt so. We felt so lucky to have that. So when he passed away, we kind of realized we didn't have anyone in San Diego aside from his grandfather. My parents, again, were like, seven hours north of there. So his police department honored all of his years of service back. Because when you leave the state as a police officer, your retirement's through the state. So if you leave, you're starting from scratch.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, okay.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. Yeah. So he went back, and then I was working full time night shift at Rady's and I got a day shift position in Arizona, and I had a new baby. And I was like, I can't do nights anymore.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

So when Ziggy was around a year old, we bought our house in Arizona, also real estate there in 2019. Girl, dirt cheap.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, correct.

[Avery's Guest]

We got a brand new fucking model home that had, like, specked out to the everything because it was a model home. It was huge. It was like 4,600 square feet. And mind you, like, that was huge to us.

[Avery Woods]

We were like, that's still big. That seems big.

[Avery's Guest]

We bought it. It included all of the model furniture. Again, we didn't have a lot of money, so. So, yeah, that was how we got back to Arizona. And then fast forward to now while we moved here. I left nursing, obviously, so I wasn't tied down to anything. David. I had him leave his job February of 2024. So we just hit a year of that because it was starting to get weird crossing paths. People would recognize him when he was arresting people. It wasn't safe. Yeah, it wasn't safe. And people love to say that he got fired. And I. That's one thing. I don't say anything. I don't ever, like, defend or rumors, but I'm like, you will not. You will not discredit his 12 years of dedicated law enforcement. He was incredible. Boss. The chief called him when he resigned and was like, could you just stay as reserves? Like, anything, one time a month as a reserve officer. And it just got To a point where it was like, you know, people would send me photos of him arresting people in the street, directing traffic.

[Manny Mua]

Weird stuff was happening. Even like, let's say none of that's happening if you're making an income in my personal life because my husband worked so long for his degree. And then as soon as I was making an income, like I didn't want him to work 12 hours a day for Amazon because my husband was working for Amazon. Like, I wanted him to live his life, you know what I mean? And you got kids too, on top of it. So it's like, what a beautiful thing.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, we have four kids.

[Manny Mua]

Exactly. For him to have that time.

[Avery's Guest]

Yep. My thing too was I wanted. It's so hard because people don't understand. I'm like, we. I worked three 12 and a half hour shifts a week. He worked four 10 hour shifts a week. We would work opposite schedules because we couldn't afford childcare. So I would work three days, he would work the next four. We never saw each other. I was up all night breastfeeding my kids. And then I would go work a 12 and a half, sometimes 13, 14, 15 hour day, depending on what I was getting. And we were like, okay, you can keep working while my job is picking up. Which I was so grateful to be able to work from home. Cause I was like, this is the first time I've ever been able to spend so much time with my fucking kids. They're so little still. Like, I never had this time. I never had the luxury. Like when Ziggy was born, David got three days off of work. Like we never had like a paternity leave as a family. Like, we never got moments like that. And I was like, even if it's just temporary, at least I get to watch my kids be little until they go to school. And then I could do whatever I want when they're in school. But I'm like, I will never get this time back. And so we were like, you can either stay working as a sergeant because he was already 12 years in, and I can keep working while everything's picking up. And that was when like brand trips were happening and collabs going on. So I was traveling all the time. And we can have a nanny, raise our kids full time, or you can leave law enforcement and be a stay at home dad. And also he does a lot of like my business management behind the scenes that people don't see. Like a lot of money management. He does all the meetings, like we're launching a brand. He does all that. Yeah. And like people don't see that stuff.

[Manny Mua]

They always say Tyler's unemployed. But I've gotten to the point where I'm like, he's unemployed. Yeah. Because I'm so sick of just like explaining what he does. Because I honestly, it's so deep rooted in our money and investments that I can't even explain it.

[Avery's Guest]

And also it's like. Yeah. And why you're mad because I'm a woman carrying my family.

[Manny Mua]

But it's not okay for a woman to have a baby and stay at home. So I'm just like, whatever.

[Avery's Guest]

Yep, yep. So. Oh yeah. When he left law enforcement. The law. Because you know, law enforcement's very like masculine. Masculine women stay home, you have kids, you raise them.

[Avery Woods]

Very conservative vibes.

[Avery's Guest]

Oh my God, it was like a fucking field day. They were, they were, were just. Yeah. So anyways, he left and I've never been more grateful. Cause like we don't have a nanny. We don't have a. We don't even. Honestly, we need like a date night babysitter.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

But like we're so lucky that we get to be with our kids all the time. And I'm able to work the way I do because is my job physically hard? Fuck no. I was walking 16,000 steps a shift. I was putting kids in body bags. Not to be morbid, but I really wanted. My husband was working his ass off on the street in 120 degree weather with a 60 pound outer carrier. No. My job is so easy. The difference is the mental drain of social media and the company different in that way. Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

So like when you're a nurse, as was I whenever I was, I just worked for a dermatologist as a medical assistant. But my point is, when I clocked out, the job was done.

[Avery's Guest]

Yes.

[Manny Mua]

I, I couldn't go. Yeah. Like 100%. This job never ends and you're never disconnected.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. And that's David and I literally had a conversation yesterday because he was like, first of all, I've had the same phone number since I was in fifth grade. So that needs to be changed because you know, you get the random text like, hey girl, so happy for your success. I have this amazing business opportunity. I'm like, girl, delete my number. Why?

[Avery Woods]

Literally we're not even talking again.

[Avery's Guest]

But I was like, A, I need a new phone number and B, I need a work phone so like 5pm I can shut everything off. Because it really could be a 24 hour day business. It is. That's just how it is.

[Manny Mua]

It really is.

[Avery Woods]

Well, you're an entrepreneur and you work for yourself. You kind of have to be like that.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. Well, and also I'm like, my kids eat based off of my. Like, everything falls on me.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

All on me. And so I just can't be lazy. It's not an option for me. And also, like, I know what life could be. I know what I could be doing right now. And I'm not gonna waste it by being lazy because, you know.

[Avery Woods]

Cause you've lived it.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. And people will say like, your job's so fucking easy and I get it, like. But you also don't know what I do. Did you know while building my social media platform, I know, I know what it's like to be in a really hardworking career and which is why I have so much drive, because I know what I would be going back to. Not that I didn't love nursing, but I just have so much more opportunity for my kids and I have the ability to give them everything they never had.

[Manny Mua]

And the time is so valuable. I wish for every human on the planet to at least get the opportunity to work from home. I wish that upon someone because of that time that you get. I worked many 40 hour a week jobs before I was an influencer. I've worked since I was 15 years old. And for me it, it was the same thing. Like I am a super hard worker, social media, but it's because of my perspective and what I learned I had to do for myself before, so. And my upbringing and this is cake. Honestly, it doesn't take a mental toll. Yeah. We've seen me have 20 mental breakdowns on the Internet. Can confirm, but at the end of the day it's still easier than what I was doing. So like I, I worked so hard for 12 years doing this.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, my, my dad raised us. My sister and I very.

[Manny Mua]

You're really close with your dad?

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, my dad is like my guy. Yeah. And when, when I turned 16, my first day of Starbucks was on my 16th birthday and my dad said, okay, you want a phone, you pay your phone bill. You want a car, you buy it yourself. You want that car, you pay for your car insurance. Then they found out Starbucks covered health insurance. I paid my own health insurance since I was 16. I paid for my down gas like that. I literally was paying my bills since I was 16 years old. I had a free roof over my head and I knew, I was grateful for that even though I was in high school, taking AP classes, part of a varsity sport, and working At Starbucks, like, yeah. And then I still got a scholarship for college. That was how I was raised.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

I was raised like, you want something, you work hard for it. And my dad made me split all of my paychecks from Starbucks. 50 in my savings, 50 in my checking. Like, that was just what I came.

[Manny Mua]

Setting you up from. Success.

[Avery's Guest]

Yes. I've never been handed anything. It's always fallen on me.

[Manny Mua]

And.

[Avery's Guest]

And so even in this job, I will work tirelessly. And David always says I work more hours a week now than I did as a nurse. It's just in different ways. Yeah. Of course I put my kids down. I'm editing, I'm answering emails, I'm recording podcast ads, whatever the case may be. But, like, I will get it done. Yeah, I will get it done. Hundred percent. Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Well, speaking of the mental toll that social media has on us, I mean, drama follows. I would say anyone with anyone, really.

[Avery Woods]

Relevancy, I'll be so real. Anyone that's popping.

[Avery's Guest]

So you're saying I'm relevant, correct?

[Manny Mua]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

[Avery Woods]

Anyone that has popping in some way, shape or form, drama will follow. And that's just how it is.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, I agree.

[Avery Woods]

And like us, you've dealt with a fierce cancellation situation that you've had to deal with, and we've actually been through it, and we've been very vocal on our podcast, and I feel like a lot of our listeners appreciate the side of things that people don't see from the, like, a.

[Manny Mua]

It's like when everything calms down, it's like the perspective of, like, what that's like and what you go through with something like that.

[Avery Woods]

How did you feel like during the situation?

[Manny Mua]

So how was that?

[Avery's Guest]

Like, I started medication therapy. No, I. I guess I'm a big empath, but I also have, like, a very large sense of humor. That's just always been my personality. But I guess I was just filled with immense sadness that I had offended people. That was, like, my biggest thing.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

Because if you know me personally, you know that's just not who I am.

[Avery Woods]

Right, Totally.

[Avery's Guest]

And that.

[Avery Woods]

You're a good jokester, to be honest.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. That.

[Avery Woods]

Big jokester.

[Avery's Guest]

A big jokester. My. That. That comes from my sister.

[Avery Woods]

That's why I like you, too.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, My sister.

[Avery Woods]

We're big jokesters.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. My sister always jokes, and she's like, you got your humor from me. Because, like, that. I remember getting in trouble in, like, fifth grade at the principal's office. My sister told me some jokes, and I repeated them at school and got in trouble. But I was 10 years old. I didn't understand that they're offensive. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I mean, it was one of those things that your career flashes before your eyes because you go to the point where you get to the point where you're like, I don't want to come back. It's really scary when you're in it.

[Manny Mua]

And you're catching all those hands and, like, yeah, fire. Physically, it does. It feels like you're on fire, and it's hard to see clear whenever it's happening. And I agree with Manny. It just feels like you see the vulnerability of your career and, like, how vulnerable it actually is or like, how. What do you. What's the word? How.

[Avery Woods]

It's not forever. It's like, it's not a forever thing. Like, it's like, it can be, but it's like kind of that thing where it's not like you're not invincible. You're not invincible. You know? Mean what I. I mean, like, it's like the fragility. Yeah. It's fragile.

[Avery's Guest]

It's a fragile thing. Yeah. I mean, I've always. I've always gotten a lot of hate on the Internet, and I don't. It's hard for me to understand. Like, when I did Stevie vlogs, people were really upset that I showed my kids. But one of my things that I, like, talked to my team about was, like, I didn't want to do ads with those vlogs, even though brands were offering me an insane amount of money. I was like, she's not an actor. Like, she's not a child. Like, my kids, when they're asked, like, what your parents do, they'll say, my mommy's a nurse. Like, they don't know what I do. They don't know what I do for a living. The only reason my oldest kids know is because of school.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

School. Know who I am. So. But then it's. You know, now I don't show my kids anymore online, and it's. I get hate for that.

[Manny Mua]

So it's like, salt.

[Avery's Guest]

What do you. What? What?

[Manny Mua]

Sometimes I be these crazy. We were in there. They're like, avery woods is hanging out with. I was like, jesus Christ. I scrolled off of it, and then I saw one other day. It's like, avery woods has moved to California because of her children. I'm like, her children's not in our content, and she's from California.

[Avery's Guest]

Yes.

[Manny Mua]

But, like, people, like, just say, it's the biggest stretch.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. So that was the thing that I was, I was talking on close friends about this because I was like, these people thinking that I am not showing my kids so I don't have to pay them is insane. Number one, you should see all four of their bank accounts. It's actually insane. Like, my kids will be fine for the rest of their lives. And that's with or without them online.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

That's just what we're doing. And we are so lucky that we have financial advisors to make sure they're set up for their college and their weddings and they have cars when they're 16 and everything we never had. That was always my goal. And the Internet is one statement. It's you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. They're gonna be.

[Avery Woods]

And their perspective is what it is.

[Avery's Guest]

Yes.

[Avery Woods]

They're never gonna change.

[Manny Mua]

And also, like, once they or you go through something and they've made their mind up and they made their decision about, you tend to not flip flop. Like, you're just doomed for a lot. You know what I mean? Or those people that chose to like, hate on you in that situation, they probably will hate you forever.

[Avery's Guest]

Well, and it's also, you know, even before that, when I was able to leave nursing and like immensely change my family's life when I was. I'm still so grateful for that. It's. You've changed.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

And I'm like, you supported me all the way up until I was able to leave and then you want to drop me. Right. Right then. But a lot of those people, I want to hold their hand and say, you can do it too.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

If you're upset that I've been able to make this drastic life change just to be able to give my kids everything I never had, you can start a social media account and do it the same way I did.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

Because what I find very interesting, and you can correct me if you think I'm wrong, but this is what I've seen. A lot of influencers that come from money or are married to someone that makes sense money. When they make money online and show their designer bags and they go shopping and they get so much praise. People that come from nothing and they've been, they have an audience that have watched them change their life. They get so much hate because they see that they've changed or are maybe jealous that they've been able to leave their career for something else. But if they already come from that and are married to and started out like that it doesn't matter.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

You know, comes in.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

But I'm like, they've already had it.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. When I am like, but I'm a woman that has four children and I'm able to support my family, they don't like that.

[Manny Mua]

And a lot of people will say, well, you were relatable before, but now I can't relate to you anymore. And that's why I don't like it. But the thing is, if you actually watch my content, your content, there's still so much relatability in that content. Like I'm still just sitting in front of my makeup mirror.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Just doing makeup. Like, no matter how much money I. I have, it would be the same products. I'm reviewing drugstore stuff every day. You know what I mean?

[Avery's Guest]

And I'm like, I'm wearing my Amazon Spinelli ring dupe. Like, cuz I don't want to go.

[Manny Mua]

Buy the real thing.

[Avery's Guest]

You know what I.

[Manny Mua]

Or like you go into a farmer's market, it's not that unrelatable. Yeah, it's not that unrelatable. So I feel like, yeah, sometimes people are like, okay, I don't connect with you more, that's fine. But it's also like that gets thrown around a lot because I'm like, I don't know, I watch a lot of really wealthy influencers content and it's super down to earth content. They're making breakfast, they're doing what they eat that day.

[Avery's Guest]

Like, oh, when I did my farmers market video this last week, there's this woman that sells my favorite protein cookies. It was her mom's business. She's a full time nursing student, she's a single mom and she's at the farmers market every day busting her ass. She said that she was offered to put her extras in Whole Foods, but instead she drops off at Skid Row in LA for all the homeless, all of her extra baked goods. So I go every single week on the dot. I buy probably between 80 and $100 worth of products from her. I don't care because I'm supporting a small business. I support her and I feel so blessed that I'm able to do that. I wasn't able to do that a couple years ago. I spent $85 on protein cookies.

[Manny Mua]

No way.

[Avery's Guest]

But then the comments are, $85 on cookies is insane. But if I don't shop local or I link something from Amazon, maybe you should share local stores instead of, you know, hyping up.

[Manny Mua]

Yes.

[Avery's Guest]

So it's like you got to make up your mind. And so my response is, it is a lot. But I'm very lucky to be able to support her small business and she deserves it.

[Manny Mua]

I feel like TikTok, like, it's almost worse than YouTube with picking people apart. No, YouTube works, right?

[Avery's Guest]

I think TikTok is the worst app. Instagram's like my safe place stories.

[Avery Woods]

I feel so safe in stories.

[Avery's Guest]

Oh, TikTok is. I will say. Can I just. I want to go back to. To, you know, earlier this year when I was fucking going through it. It one of the worst times of my life. But I'll never talk about it in a way that I want people to feel bad for me. Do you know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna ever make that an excuse. But I will say I never regret anything because I've learned so much. And the number one thing that that moment gave me was boundaries. I've never looked at my comments since. I've never scrolled my for you page page since. Not one time. I've never looked at a single DM since. Since February. I only scroll on my following on TikTok to see what my friends are up to. I. I'll scroll Instagram because it's just like your feeds, who you're following. I don't ever look at like the real.

[Avery Woods]

The reals. Me neither.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, No, I don't ever look at that. Yeah, I don't open up comments because I got to a point where I was like, I only care what people think if I'm giving them the opportunity to tell me. People are saying these horrible, nasty things, telling, go kill myself, they hope my kids die. Leaking my fucking layout of my house, saying they're gonna burn it down, my kids are gonna die. Like, just terrible things. But I'm like, they want me to see that. They want me to read it and have it affect me. And the biggest fuck you I can give them is just not to open it and not to read it 100%. And so Scott does all of that.

[Manny Mua]

For me now, majority of it is just noise. I mean, obviously there's those times when we fuck up and we hurt people's feelings and we need to address that and we need to acknowledge what we've done wrong, wrong. But the day to day, and majority of it gets taken out of context of that to the point where it's like, go kill yourself or something like that. That. That is noise. And in order for you to do your job and function like a human being, I think you have to block it out. I remember I used to do things like if I went live, I would put sticky note over the comment section, the comments, and I just did my live, and I couldn't really communicate, but it was just, like, at a time where it was too much and everything was too polarizing and everything was a story that I've done. So, like, I would do the same thing. I would protect myself. I'd get. I would go check the comments of my videos the first hour I upload them and then just let that shit roll.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

You know what I mean?

[Avery's Guest]

It's hard because I truly am so grateful for everyone that follows me and supports me. Like, that's how I'm able to live my life and support my family. And like, anyone that comes up to me, like, I'm so sorry. I literally will tell them, like, you are the reason I have my job. Like, never apologize. I'm so grateful to you.

[Manny Mua]

Totally.

[Avery's Guest]

So it does make me sa that I don't feel like I have that interaction anymore. But I got to a point where, like, it was scary.

[Manny Mua]

It's also hard to do this job and feel like the world hates you. You know what I mean? And that's like.

[Avery Woods]

It feels like impending doom.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. It's hard to, like, keep getting up every day and putting your best foot forward and being able to put your energy out there and do this shit when you're constantly being beaten down day to day. So it's like blocking it out, really. I think it's the way to go to an extent, like you're doing.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, it just. I. I just. You know, when my husband's scared that he has to admit me, you know, like, to somewhere where I'm not gonna harm myself. That was when I was like, okay, this is scary. Like, the fact that my mental health was so low that I considered leaving my children.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

Forever where they don't have a mom. That's not okay.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

You know, it got to a point where it was that scary.

[Manny Mua]

And that's the problem with cancel culture. I will say, too, because it's. It's like, it's not about holding people accountable for doing something wrong. It's about a feeding frenzy on, oh, we got one. Like, let's find ways to destroy them. Sierra was recently booted off Love island, and it was like, yeah, let's hold her accountable. But we're calling ice on her family and cancel. Cults are. It always goes there. You know what I mean? It always takes.

[Avery Woods]

It always takes it too far.

[Manny Mua]

Yes. I mean, when I was canceled. I remember. And again, I try not to make myself a victim, but these are just things that happen where it did go too far. A guy wrote me an email this thick describing the ways he was going to murder me. And it's just like, okay, I understand it's something wrong, but I don't deserve to die and I don't deserve this. And that's where it takes it way too far. And I'm like, I don't even want this anymore. Like, I don't want to do this anymore. And that's why I just can't get behind Cancel Culture. I don't.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah, I just had to. I just had to separate myself and like, realize that, you know, this. It is of course, the way I support my family in my career, but I also, like, genuinely just love making content. Like, I love the edit. Like, I do everything myself. I don't even have an assistant. Like, Scott does my podcast. He'll help me with commenting and stuff.

[Manny Mua]

By the way.

[Avery's Guest]

He's the best.

[Avery Woods]

He's the best.

[Avery's Guest]

But, like, I record, edit, post all my own shit. Like, I do all of that and I genuinely love it. Like, I have a passion for it, which is why I continue to do it on my own own. But I just had to separate, you know, my mental health and like, people's opinions about me because I was going down a really scary road.

[Manny Mua]

I also think the longer you're relevant, the longer you're around, the more that cools off because they're like, ready for the next person to bite into. It's like, okay, we've already. We've on her for three or four years. They're like, who else do we got in the roster? And it does come calm down. And I always tell Mania, I'm like, we're in our glory years.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

You know, you reap the rewards of a beautiful social media career, but you don't deal with as much of the comes within the sure comes with it.

[Avery Woods]

So it just, it will just like, it's just one of those things that it just does. It gets easier with time.

[Manny Mua]

It does.

[Avery Woods]

But it is something that's just like, really to really note for people watching too, is that like, it can get to a point for people that it's so overwhelming for them and it can. Can cause personal harm. And I don't think that people have a lot of empathy nowadays and they forget that people are just people and they make mistakes. You're living your first life right now for the first time. It's like the whole idea of your mom is just a girl who's living their life. It's the truth. Everyone is just doing the best that they can. I think that people forget that there's real people behind the screens when they're going through something really, really harsh, and they have real emotions and things really do hurt. And comments do affect people's moods and how they're feeling.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. And it's so interesting because my family has a very heavy mental health side, and I never felt like it got to me. I was like, ooh, I'm the one that got. I'm like, clear.

[Avery Woods]

You got away.

[Avery's Guest]

I know you're fine. Yeah, like, I'm good. And, like, even in the thick of nursing, like, the shit that I've seen is stuff you wouldn't even believe. Like, I feel so bad sometimes because friends will sit me down and be like, what's the craziest thing you've ever seen? I'm like, are you sure you want to hear that? Because it's shit that's not even on the news. And it's, like, different when it's kids and babies.

[Avery Woods]

It's like.

[Avery's Guest]

But, like, they're always like, how are you not up from that? Like, I did that for so long. But it wasn't until I read comments about myself that I was like, oh, no, my mental health is not okay.

[Avery Woods]

That's what makes this job hard in ways.

[Avery's Guest]

Mentally.

[Avery Woods]

Mentally, that other jobs. It's hard to understand.

[Manny Mua]

Hardest of hard jobs. You're like, oh, it didn't affect me like that. Even saying my worst day of any amount. My jobs never brought me down. Like, being a content creator and going through the things I went through, it's so crazy. Not even close to it. But also, it put me in a much better spot going through that, I will say, because I was able to, like, take a step back from something I was so enwrapped in. And it was like, my whole life. And I said, oh, my God, I made this thing my whole life. I have nothing else but this. So when this crumbled, I just crumbled to the ground. And it made me go, okay, I need to need hobbies. I need things that I'm not posting about. I need a life outside of social media. Because now I see giveth. Take it away just as quick. Great. I need to be in a position where it's like, take it away. I'm set up to lose it. And, yeah, it's always gonna hurt and it's always gonna suck. But when it happened to me, I was in probably my worst spot because I was so obsessed with it, because I loved it so much. I love being my own boss. I love creating content. I love being creative and doing skits all the time and all the. The things. But it was all that I did for like five years. And then whenever, you know, the bottom fell out of that. I really felt like I need to. I learned from it. You know, I'll say I need to rewire what I'm doing here.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. And I've also become so much more private.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. Oh, huge life lesson.

[Avery's Guest]

I was like, you know what? It's not worth, like, you know, you. When you get that first, like, social media high, that chase of, like, views and follow followers and all, and then something like that happens and you're like, it doesn't matter. It literally does not matter.

[Avery Woods]

Then you realize it's like, what you do for your work.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. And also, I don't want to resent or like, not enjoy what I'm doing. Like, I genuinely want to. You fixing your hair and the reflection is.

[Avery Woods]

You see that? I literally saw this.

[Avery's Guest]

I was like another dimension. He said, looking cute. Yeah. I just was like, I want to share content that makes me happy, but like the rest of life. My. My life, which is pretty much 95, is offline, which people love to be like, you share everything. I'm like, no, you think I share everything? You think I share everything in what, a 90 second vlog I posted today on Tik Tok Antique Shopping?

[Manny Mua]

I know. No, you saw 60 to 90 seconds of my 24 hour day.

[Avery's Guest]

But, like, I needed that. I needed that, like, slap in the face up. Your life is right in front of you.

[Manny Mua]

I don't wish it upon anyone, but do take what you can out of it because it will change you and make you better for it. Yes.

[Avery's Guest]

I 100% agree. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll never play victim. I just, I learned a lot and my only goal is just to be a better person and continue on.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

That's awesome.

[Avery Woods]

What else can you do too? Like, what else can you do? Something lighter. Something lighter to ask.

[Avery's Guest]

Okay, tell me something lighter.

[Avery Woods]

But it's still like kind of like.

[Avery's Guest]

Talk to me, babe.

[Avery Woods]

Still kind of shady. Oh, my God.

[Manny Mua]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

Okay, I have a question. So obviously, since you also do, like, beauty and lifestyle, you go on like, brand trips.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Trips happen. You're going on them. I see you on them all the time. Have you ever had an experience on a branch up that you were literally like, like one of your Worst branch of experience. You don't have to say the brand.

[Avery's Guest]

Okay.

[Avery Woods]

But a story.

[Manny Mua]

Have you seen an influencer do some crazy? I was like, what crazy? Have you seen no names unless you want to.

[Avery's Guest]

Well, I, it's actually funny because I said no to every brand trip this year. I was like, I just, I need a break.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Last March, me and Laura yesterday went on a full like 2 hour tangent about did you meeting breaks? Sort of.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. Last March I was home for eight days the entire month.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. No.

[Avery Woods]

So you start to realize, oh, time's all I have.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. I said, okay. It's literally away from my kids more than I was as a nurse, but okay. Oh God. I mean so many.

[Avery Woods]

But like, you don't have to say names and don't say brand names, but.

[Avery's Guest]

You can say, I will say I've never, I mean I've never had had a, a bad experience with a brand on a brand trip. I've had very interesting experiences with like other influencers that still shock me to this day. But like, I just will never be a diva.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

As all I'll say, like being in this industry, I'm like, I have hung out with Selena Gomez, I don't know, now six times maybe in like very intimate settings. And like she's one of the biggest celebrities in the world. And when I tell you she is so down, down to earth, kind gracious, just will shoot the shit with you. And I'm like, then I meet these people that have a couple million followers on social media, okay. As we all do. And they are the biggest fucking divas. And I'm like, where is this entitlement coming from? I just, I still to this day, I'm like, when people are like, oh my God. She's like, like when someone stops me and then they're like, oh, who is that? Oh, she's a famous. I'm like, I'm not famous. I'm just a normal fucking person that got so lucky in life. So lucky. And just treating people like their things and not humans is something I will never be on board with.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

You know, forcing people to carry their shoes or speaking down to them or refusing to eat what's on the menu and ordering your whole other fucking course. Like, I just can't, I can't with stuff like that. And so I've seen a lot of that in brand trips.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

I think what shocked me the most and this like shows how like naive I was because I again to like a very small private nursing school. I met my husband I was 18. He had two kids. So I became a mom at like 18, 19 years old is the amount of drugs in this industry. And I think it's because. Yeah. Because I didn't have that, like snow.

[Manny Mua]

No.

[Avery Woods]

Oh, it's pouring.

[Avery's Guest]

I just recently found out what that was a year ago. I didn't know what the.

[Manny Mua]

I was like, California and it's South LA is snow.

[Avery's Guest]

It's so I. I just was like so naive to that of. Of knowing like. Oh. Like I'm one of the very few that doesn't participate in stuff like that. Which to each their own. You know, most these people are like single and young and like having fun, going out and partying and like live your life. I think I just was naive to the fact that it was happening so often.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, yeah. All. All the time.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Really? Some might say, yeah. It's kind of shocking. It is kind of shocking because I've been in situations, I was literally like, I don't.

[Manny Mua]

Do I have something to add to the entitlement. Divalicious. Diva.

[Avery's Guest]

Because we've talked about this off camera before because you guys have some really fun stories too because you've been in this industry for so long and you're like, oh, no, here's what I've seen. And I'm like, what the.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, the good tea. The good tea. I have a. I don't even want to call my friend group. I have a group of friends and they're more so in the like hundred million dollar club. So you know how influencers, we tinkle around with our millions and it's fun and games. Well, these people are like more like.

[Avery's Guest]

When you hang out with them and you're like, I'm poor.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, yes. No, I am dirt. I'm like, so sorry I'm in your home.

[Avery's Guest]

Like, apology. When people like have your kids over, I'm like, no, no, they will be.

[Manny Mua]

I apologize to one of my friends when I picked them up in my Porsche. I was like, I'm so sorry. This piece of. She was like, no, no, it's great.

[Avery's Guest]

They would hate to see my GMC Yukon.

[Avery Woods]

They'd hate to see my Honda Civic coming.

[Avery's Guest]

You have a Honda Civic?

[Avery Woods]

No, I have a. I have a. I have a Toyota though. I do have a Toyota.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah.

[Avery Woods]

I have two cars.

[Avery's Guest]

Toyotas last for forever.

[Manny Mua]

I love.

[Avery Woods]

I have like my chill car, like my like drive around car, my Toyota and then I have my nice car.

[Avery's Guest]

I will take my GMC Yukon over my Defender any day.

[Avery Woods]

I. How often do I drive the Toyota.

[Manny Mua]

I told him, first of all, I was like, get a car wash. I'm sick of this being dirty.

[Avery Woods]

It's dirty all the time.

[Manny Mua]

Second of all, he is like the nicest Jaguar and he don't touch that thing.

[Avery's Guest]

You drive a Jaguar that's so hot.

[Manny Mua]

And he doesn't.

[Avery Woods]

I drive it like seldomly because it's like my nice car. And then I have my Toyota for like, if I go to San Diego.

[Avery's Guest]

Maybe I'll get there one day.

[Manny Mua]

Shut the rich, okay. I love giving.

[Avery's Guest]

We're in the presence of a rich man.

[Avery Woods]

You guys are.

[Manny Mua]

But the people in the club of like ungodly amounts of money are the nicest. No work done on their face. The nicest people, they will give God smacks about money to charities. They are so kind and you would.

[Avery's Guest]

Never know that they have money.

[Manny Mua]

They don't wear designer brands. Like, they don't wear logos.

[Avery's Guest]

No, no, no, no.

[Manny Mua]

Everything is probably Chanel head to toe, but it's like logo free. Okay? And then I'm like, whenever I met them, I assumed they would be 10 times the divas I've dealt with. With influencers, it's the complete opposite. So then that left me going, what the fuck are influencers doing? It's because they get this money so quick and they, they're like, oh, attitude immediately. Yeah, it' brings out this vibe to them. I don't know. But it was a very big perspective for me. I was like, they're losers, dude.

[Avery's Guest]

Do you know what? It's when my kids started the summer camp because they're going to summer camp where they're going to school and like a huge luxury that we have that I was like another I made you moment was being able to put my kids in private school. Their safety was very important to me. Wednesday, he was in kindergarten. People were talking online about where he went to school. Made me very unsafe with like school shootings and. And so I feel so privileged for that and meeting these other such kind families in their summer camp. And like we had a new parents dinner. We were talking to all these people. I am the bottom fucking underground barrel feeder of income for the mom group for this school. And we're going over to these people's houses and having play dates. And I'm like, you are the nicest person I've ever met. You would never know how much money you come from. You earned it all on your own. You started a business, you're in the industry. Like, I was literally sitting next. On one side of me was the Nicest family. And their son's going to be in Stevie's TK class. And we just got to talking and then I Google him and I'm like, oh, you're like a massive Grammy, I think six Grammy award winning producer. And. And then on the right of me is a very, very famous actor. Everyone would know who he was. I'm not gonna say his name, but like his daughters just graduated from the school and he's the one that got up and was giving a speech to the parents. And his wife was the head of pto. Like they've been so involved with their kids in the school. Cause they've been lifers there their entire life. They went there and he just rolls up in his Tesla casual fucking in a T shirt.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

So nice. Like, another example is so Cherokee, the scrub pump company that found me.

[Manny Mua]

Deb.

[Avery's Guest]

I don't know if you guys have seen me talk about Deb. She's a very close family friend. She's the one that messaged me. Her and her brothers owned Cherokee, so her brother is wildly successful. And one of his next door neighbors is one of the Kardashians. And they've been neighbors for like eight years. I think, like, the amount of money this man has, and you would never, ever know, he's just walking around, basketball shorts and a T shirt and driving like the most basic cars.

[Manny Mua]

And I'm telling you, there's a front. It's a front because the influencer knows that that's. That's not real. Like, they know. Yeah. Okay. If you have a million bucks, two million bucks, it gives you divalicious. Diva. No, no, no, no, no.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

No, like, literally. So it's like this front that happens almost. It's like I have to act the part of who I think I'm trying to pretend that I am. And then people who are like extremely, ridiculously wealthy, they have nothing to prove.

[Avery Woods]

They don't care.

[Avery's Guest]

No. And they're so kind, but also, like, not flashy. And I think what it is is that as influencers, we're expected to share our life and like, what we're buying, what we're doing, how we use our time. And so that's like where the flashiness comes from. But I'm like, if you want to share that online, that's fine. But like, off camera, just be a nice person.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah. Don't think about it.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. Like, I would never.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, I agree 100%.

[Avery Woods]

I always thought like, even like the whole idea of that is like, we've had Friends that have been so like above thou about people having nice things and like us having nice things and people like judging us for not having nicer things. And it's like, this is so weird. Like, I don't get it. Like, what's the point? Like, I'm also like, I've never really been like a huge and materialistic person. So like, to me, I'm just like, I don't really care about that stuff.

[Avery's Guest]

I also am like, so why would we care? So naive to everybody, everything. Like when people, when people like, especially being in la. Like, I'm such like a new LA person. Cause we, I grew up like north and then David grew up in San Diego. So like, I was in LA weekly for work. And that's why we ended up coming here. Cause I was tired of traveling so we kind of landed in the middle. But I've never lived here.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

And I'm like, you know, you just hang out with people and you're like, what the fuck? They're like, oh, yeah, I don't leave my house. I got my nail person coming in, my, my Seuss, my hair girl. And like, I get it. Like, that's so convenient and so nice. If I can save $5 by driving somewhere, I'm fucking driving. 5. I'm driving there and saving $5.

[Manny Mua]

That's just how I feel. You should see them. Because I do my own nails at home and I press on, girl, right here. And I dye my own roots too. People, they don't bully me, but they're like, laurie, if I had your money, like, what the fuck are you doing? And I'm like, I don't want to sit in a salon for four hours. Her fucking roots. I am so, so happy to glue a nail on and tie my. Like, you don't even understand.

[Avery's Guest]

I feel the same.

[Manny Mua]

It's not about that for me. I don't have to have a lavish luxury life I was born with in the sticks and so may it carry on.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. And honestly, I'm like, I just feel so grateful to like, not have a car payment because I could pay my car off and like, go. Like, I, I subscribe to Walmart grocery delivery that we've. That's been like our thing for like six years probably. It's $100 a year for unlimited deliveries. And so I'm like on my app and I'm like, literally last week I was like, this is. I spent $226 on groceries. And I said, I remember when this would be $100 over our budget for two weeks full of groceries. And I'm so fucking grateful that I have that. And still people are like, you buy great value Walmart Grocery, Del. Yup.

[Manny Mua]

So you're damned if you do, literally.

[Avery's Guest]

And what. What great value can corn is going to taste different than your $5 canned corn from Bistro Farm, whatever the place in Calabasas is, you know, like the. The expensive grocery store I can't even pronounce. Or like when people are like, oh, yeah, I do my grocery shopping at Erewhon and buy glass water bottles. Well, I have a brio machine. Yeah, I got to go.

[Avery Woods]

I get water.

[Avery's Guest]

Water tanks. And David's like refilling. You know what I mean? But my kids college accounts be fatty.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Avery's Guest]

And I splurge on my furniture.

[Manny Mua]

You're going to want to get the good. Yeah, yeah.

[Avery Woods]

Trust her, please.

[Avery's Guest]

So I just. I don't know, I just try to stay humble and not forget where I came from and also, you know, try to just block out. Block out the. The noise. But yeah, there's an interesting crowd here in Los Angeles, California.

[Avery Woods]

Very interesting, Very interesting.

[Avery's Guest]

But as Selena would say, I think talking about. About money is very distasteful. But it seems when you're in a setting with influencers, that's all they love to talk about is the new thing that they bought, the new car, the new house, the whatever. And I'm like, well, my kid is potty trained, so.

[Manny Mua]

So you're like, so what else is new?

[Avery Woods]

That is like a big thing. That is such a big thing at events and stuff. I would love to talk about that. We truly do. We truly do. Well, we loved having you.

[Manny Mua]

This was such a great episode.

[Avery's Guest]

Kicking me off.

[Avery Woods]

We.

[Manny Mua]

I love having.

[Avery Woods]

Is there anything you want to like.

[Manny Mua]

I will talk to you for four hours.

[Avery Woods]

No, it's. Honestly, so will I. So will I. We'd have to film after this. We would.

[Avery's Guest]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Avery Woods]

Yeah, we would just keep going.

[Avery's Guest]

You have to go.

[Manny Mua]

Do you want to do a rapid fire with us? Yeah, we just keep rolling. This week we're talking about.

[Avery's Guest]

No, that's all I got. Thank you guys so much for having me. I love you both.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, we love you so much.

[Avery's Guest]

Camera.

[Manny Mua]

Camera.

[Avery's Guest]

They're the best people ever, guys. I'm telling you, they're the nicest. And like, growing up watching, I'd say growing up, like, I was like five years old.

[Avery Woods]

We have a friend that's always like, I watched you when I was 18. I'm like, you're 30.

[Manny Mua]

They're like, we're like, we have not.

[Avery Woods]

Been doing it this long.

[Manny Mua]

You are not 18.

[Avery Woods]

You did not watch it when you're 18. I wasn't meaning when you're 18.

[Manny Mua]

People love to come up to be like, I've been watching you since I was 10. I was like, I have not been online that long.

[Avery Woods]

They love to do that.

[Avery's Guest]

Dude, don't even get me started that Scott was born in the year 2000 and he's turning 26 next year.

[Manny Mua]

That's so scary.

[Avery's Guest]

So it's actually terrifying. No, but for real, I obviously watched you guys forever. You guys and Jacqueline and knowing you guys personally, it's just such a joy that you're so real and down to earth. And it's so funny that people like you guys that have been in it for so long and have so much credibility are so humble, whereas like a lot of those divas are like quick tik tok famous people. But you guys are so gracious. You're always so kind and such good friends. I'm really grateful to be in your lives.

[Avery Woods]

Thank you. We love having you in our lives.

[Manny Mua]

Thank you for coming on our podcast.

[Avery's Guest]

Oh, my God, of course. Yes, of course. We need you on Cheers. We already.

[Manny Mua]

Yes, anytime.

[Avery Woods]

It was amazing. It was so much fun.

[Manny Mua]

We'll do something juicy and when the.

[Avery's Guest]

House is done, we're gonna get fucked up at my house.

[Avery Woods]

Yes.

[Avery's Guest]

On wine, not drugs.

[Avery Woods]

I will get so fucked up on Canada driving. It's over.

[Avery's Guest]

I'll do diet panada, dry. I'll buy whatever non alcoholic beverage you'd like. Baby. I got you.

[Manny Mua]

I'll do drugs.

[Avery's Guest]

I love it. I'll get. I'll get a joint rolling station for you.

[Avery Woods]

Okay?

[Manny Mua]

Love you guys.

[Avery Woods]

I love you so much. I'll leave everything linked down below, of course, and we'll catch you guys in the next episode.

[Avery's Guest]

Yeah. Follow me.

[Manny Mua]

Cheers.

[Avery Woods]

Bye.

[Laura Lee]

Cheers.

[Manny Mua]

Cheers. Cheers.

[Avery Woods]

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[Manny Mua]

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[Avery Woods]

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[Manny Mua]

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[Avery Woods]

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