Daus Mendoza lets us ask him ANYTHING... it got VERY juicy

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Podcast Summary: "Daus Mendoza lets us ask him ANYTHING... it got VERY juicy"

Title: Fool Coverage with Manny MUA and Laura Lee
Episode: Daus Mendoza lets us ask him ANYTHING... it got VERY juicy
Release Date: December 20, 2024
Hosts: Manny MUA and Laura Lee
Guest: Dallas Mendoza

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1. Introduction and Guest Introduction (01:22 - 02:49)

Manny MUA and Laura Lee kick off the episode by introducing Dallas Mendoza, a dynamic digital content creator and social media influencer renowned for his expertise in fashion, lifestyle, beauty, and travel. Manny highlights Dallas's rapid rise in the influencer industry, mentioning his significant presence on platforms like TikTok.

Notable Quote:

• Manny MUA (02:18): "We’re here to welcome Dallas Mendoza, which I'm so excited. He is a digital content creator, social media influencer known for his dynamic presence online."

2. Dallas Mendoza's Influencer Journey (02:50 - 05:08)

Dallas shares his early days of creating content, starting from middle school with YouTube vlogs and transitioning to Instagram. The conversation touches on how Dallas found his niche in makeup during high school, emphasizing his commitment to authentic and enjoyable content creation.

Notable Quote:

• Dallas Mendoza (07:00): "I've always been making videos, at least since middle school. I was always into content, and I always knew I wanted to do some sort of content creator."

3. Collaborations and Business Ventures (05:09 - 10:45)

Dallas discusses his first major collaboration with a waist trainer brand, detailing the quick turnaround and his partnership with Melanie, the brand owner. They delve into the functionality and potential health implications of waist trainers, comparing them to Brazilian Butt Lifts (BBLs).

Notable Quote:

• Dallas Mendoza (05:04): "I feel like peak is obvious. I'm coming out with a waist trainer. That's my first ever collab, and I'm so excited."

4. Beauty Trends: Waist Trainers and BBLs (10:46 - 16:23)

The hosts and Dallas explore the popularity of waist trainers and BBLs, discussing their effects on body shape and skin health. Manny humorously relates the conversation to personal preferences and experiences with beauty enhancements.

Notable Quote:

• Laura Lee (10:46): "Are you, like, in a trance all the time?"

5. Personal Dating Experiences and Relationship Insights (16:24 - 35:16)

Manny narrates a recent dating experience where a promising date ended without a kiss, leading to a six-month relationship. Dallas offers insights into relationship dynamics, emphasizing the importance of mutual affection and warning against red flags like excessive early affection.

Notable Quote:

• Manny MUA (17:27): "I went on a date yesterday and it got so well, but he didn't make a move to kiss."

6. Navigating Online Drama and Friendships (35:17 - 52:46)

Dallas opens up about a tumultuous period involving his ex-best friend and ex-boyfriend, detailing conflicts that unfolded both offline and online. The discussion highlights the challenges of maintaining genuine friendships in the influencer space and the impacts of public drama on personal relationships.

Notable Quote:

• Dallas Mendoza (38:05): "They were planning a whole thing without me. That's so weird to go out that night."

7. Challenges in the Influencer Industry (52:47 - 73:34)

The conversation shifts to the competitive nature of the influencer industry, the burnout associated with constant content creation, and the difficulties of sustaining genuine connections amidst public scrutiny. They also discuss the algorithmic challenges on platforms like TikTok and YouTube.

Notable Quote:

• Dallas Mendoza (66:17): "Why are they not inviting me? It's so weird."

8. Social Media Platform Dynamics: TikTok and YouTube (73:35 - 85:17)

Manny, Laura, and Dallas delve into the evolving landscape of social media platforms. They discuss the growth and subsequent challenges on TikTok, the impact of algorithms on content visibility, and the transition back to platforms like YouTube. The hosts express frustration over the increasing competition and the perceived regression in inclusivity within the beauty community.

Notable Quote:

• Manny MUA (81:42): "They are lucky because now it's like they actually just published it that they literally will slow down your views if you're popping off fiercely."

9. Representation and Inclusivity in Beauty (85:18 - 102:12)

A significant portion of the episode focuses on representation in the beauty industry, particularly the role of male influencers. The hosts discuss internal homophobia, the tokenization of gay men in beauty, and the regression in societal acceptance despite increased visibility. They advocate for more inclusive opportunities and criticize brands for stereotyping and excluding diverse voices.

Notable Quote:

• Dallas Mendoza (96:50): "Never date a broke man."

10. Future Plans and Collaboration Announcement (102:13 - 105:02)

As the episode nears its conclusion, Dallas announces his first major collaboration with his Nudie Patootie clothing line. The hosts express excitement about the upcoming launch and encourage listeners to check out Dallas's work, emphasizing the importance of supporting genuine and hard-working influencers.

Notable Quote:

• Dallas Mendoza (104:10): "Our goal is to sell out, but yeah, really excited for that. I'm so excited for my first ever collab."

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Key Takeaways:

• Authenticity in Content Creation: Dallas emphasizes the importance of enjoying the content creation process and staying true to one's energy.

• Navigating Relationships: Open and honest communication is crucial, and recognizing red flags early can save from prolonged heartache.

• Influencer Challenges: The competitive landscape of social media requires resilience, with algorithms often affecting content reach unpredictably.

• Representation Matters: There is a persistent need for inclusivity and genuine representation in the beauty industry, moving beyond tokenism.

• Support Systems: Friends and family play a vital role in overcoming public drama and personal challenges within the influencer sphere.

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This episode provides an unfiltered look into the life of a social media influencer, exploring the highs and lows of Dallas Mendoza's journey alongside insightful discussions from hosts Manny MUA and Laura Lee. From personal relationships to industry-wide challenges, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of what it takes to thrive in the ever-evolving digital landscape.

Transcript

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[Laura Lee]

Is that his real lashes?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes.

[Manny Emua]

No. I want to kill him. Laura.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Get out.

[Manny Emua]

Cut out.

[Laura Lee]

Whenever I see him, I'm not listening to anything he said.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm like, My other advice to everyone is never date a broken.

[Laura Lee]

Welcome to your favorite podcast. It's full coverage with your host, Manny Emua, Laura Lee. We have a special guest today that we will be introing for you guys.

[Manny Emua]

You guys, I'm so excited that we're actually doing a little intro. We came up with one now that you guys told us you're like, maybe we should do like little intros for our guests. So now we are. So we have Dallas Mendoza here, which I'm so excited. He is a digital content creator, social media influencer known for his dynamic presence online, specializing in fashion, lifestyle, beauty, travel. Captivating his audience with high quality visuals and engaging storytelling. His distinct style and charismatic personality have earned him a significant following on TikTok and every other platform, literally making him a rising star in the influencer industry. His work often features collaborations with brands, influencers, etc. So we're here to welcome Ms. Das Mendoza.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm so excited.

[Manny Emua]

Literally like this. Come on, child. You know the vibe. Oh my God. You know who Astrovino is?

[Laura Lee]

Never heard of. Never in my life.

[Dallas Mendoza]

We'll get into that.

[Manny Emua]

We're gonna have to get into that a little bit because it is actually really a fierce situation. But no, it is.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It really.

[Laura Lee]

And I don't know.

[Manny Emua]

No, it's like, it's such a niche.

[Laura Lee]

Oh.

[Manny Emua]

If you're like, you're in like Mexican tick tock.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes.

[Manny Emua]

That's how it is. That's literally what it is. But. Oh my God, we're so excited to have you here.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm so excited to be here.

[Manny Emua]

We've known you for like, I feel like we're doing for so long now. Like since like from the jump.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

When you're starting out.

[Dallas Mendoza]

When I started off, like, we started becoming mutual.

[Manny Emua]

From your nose contour video, I said I need to follow this one.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

That was a video.

[Dallas Mendoza]

One of the like second or third, like big influencers Follow me. Like literally. You were like, really one of the first.

[Manny Emua]

Well, I feel like I just like, if I like a vibe, I'm just gonna. I want to immediately. I'm not that type. Yeah. I can just feel. I'm like, I like his energy. I like his like the vibes. I just want to follow. I'm like not the type. Let me know.

[Laura Lee]

On to me. Yes, I do.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No.

[Laura Lee]

Oh.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I've known about you for like ever, obviously. You know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

I've been around the block a time or two.

[Dallas Mendoza]

She's been around the town.

[Laura Lee]

I love it a long time. And you know, there's so many new tick tockers. There's some stars stand out.

[Manny Emua]

Yes. And that's what it was for me. If you have an it factor in my mind, if you have a thing that can captivate me. When I literally am like been doing this for this long, I'm like, that takes.

[Laura Lee]

I think you have always been really funny in your tick tocks. Like you come across very light hearted and funny, like to joke around a lot. Like, it's not that serious. And that's what I was like, this one.

[Manny Emua]

That's the one.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I don't take my videos that seriously. And you can tell, like, I have fun with it. You know what I mean? 100 and I've always been like, if I don't feel like filming, I won't. Like, I don't. Because I don't want to end up seeing it as like a job or something like that. You know what I mean? If I. If my energy isn't aligned that day, I won't because it's like, why do I want to put that forced or like negative energy out? You know what I mean?

[Manny Emua]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Real lashes. Yes.

[Manny Emua]

No. I want to kill him.

[Laura Lee]

Laura, get out.

[Manny Emua]

Cut that out. Whenever I see it. No, whenever. Whenever he's like using mascara and I'm.

[Laura Lee]

Like, I'm not listening to anything he said. I'm like this.

[Manny Emua]

He's like this. He's like that one viral owl video that's like, the owls like this.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. That's literally what I saw talking to me.

[Manny Emua]

Look at this little owl, and he's like this.

[Laura Lee]

The lashes are real, people. We're confirming it here.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Are you, like, in a trance all time?

[Laura Lee]

You're like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Manny Emua]

That's literally how you feel. But, you know, before we go into it, we always do this thing on our episodes where we call it Peaks and pits, and we talk about, like, the best, the highs, the lows of our weeks or whatever it might be. So we would love for you to start off with either peak or pit.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Okay.

[Manny Emua]

To see what you got going on for this week.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I feel like peak is obvious. I'm coming out with waist trainer.

[Manny Emua]

That's, like, literally at the end of our thing. We're like, but please talk about it now. I'm so excited.

[Dallas Mendoza]

My first ever collab, and I'm so excited. And the crazy thing is, it was, like, a quick turnaround. Like, this isn't, like, the only like or first collab that I'm working on, but it's, like, the fastest one where it was, like, coming out first. Yes. Oh, but how do I explain it?

[Manny Emua]

Like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like, it was, like, literally, like, three months ago.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, my God.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, sorry. The turnover was, like, I was telling you, quick turnover.

[Laura Lee]

Quick, honey.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like, it was like, hi, let's collab. Oh, let's do it. Okay. Two months. It's out like that. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

So it was a really, like, quick turnaround.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes, very quick. I was honestly shocked. But, like, whenever I actually reached out to this company because I. Oh, my God.

[Laura Lee]

So cool.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Because I've been, like, really?

[Manny Emua]

For a long time.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes. I've been wearing them for a long time and repping them and freaking, like, shouting them out online all the time. Like, every time I go live with my waist dinner, people are always like. And I'm like, y'all, I need to, like, get something with them.

[Manny Emua]

You're giving them.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes, exactly.

[Laura Lee]

And they said, say less.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. So I literally just DM them. Well, actually, they would always send me, obviously, like, free, like, trainers, and I asked for more. But then I was like, hey, like, would you guys let me know if you guys would ever be down a collab? And as soon as I said that, like, a paragraph backed me, like, yes. Oh, my God. I have this idea. This idea, like, fully, like, she was so down And I was so excited.

[Laura Lee]

How genuine is that? And I love your. Your like a breath of fresh air. Because you, you know, most creators are like, we've worked on this for years and years and years to bring it out. And you're like, this was very quick and it was genuine. And I reached out three months.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

I mean, I was like a different story.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. Like, I've been using them for years and promoting them for a long time. This is. But also like, it's Wastinners. It's not like something where it's like.

[Laura Lee]

It'S not product development.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. It's.

[Laura Lee]

You're in a chemist. In the lab.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Exactly.

[Manny Emua]

Back and forth with like, formulations.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes. There's just a few.

[Manny Emua]

Impress.

[Dallas Mendoza]

She is such like. And her name is Melanie. She's like, she owns the brand. She's so good at what she does. Like, I just told her my idea and then she put her idea in and she's like, well, she's been doing it for a long time. So she was like, I'll take your idea. This is what I could do with it. And then here's the product. And the first one was already like, perfect.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But there's like a few tweaks that we did and then.

[Laura Lee]

That's so cool.

[Dallas Mendoza]

We're launching.

[Manny Emua]

I love the production of it too. It's like, it feels like it's a. It's a quick turnaround even in production wise. Cuz.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And it's in Colombia.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, shit.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They're 100% made in Colombia. Every single thing about it is from Colombia. So the fact that like, we did it this week too is like. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

Is that why you're so snatched? Because you always wear. Wear seniors?

[Dallas Mendoza]

I've actually. No, I don't. I don't tell a lot of people, but I have been training since I was 15.

[Manny Emua]

Really?

[Laura Lee]

Really.

[Manny Emua]

So that's why you're like, wow.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I will say though, like, if I look past that old photos, before I was training, I did have a little bit of shape. To me. Okay.

[Manny Emua]

It's not like, like, genetically you already still had something.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I wouldn't say that my waist was like that. It was a normal waist. But my, I always did have hips and like thighs. You know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But the waist trainer really, like clocked me in. It was actually a corset that I bought from Amazon that I first started.

[Laura Lee]

Wow.

[Manny Emua]

I've only worn a corset when I got.

[Laura Lee]

Do you have to.

[Manny Emua]

You have to know you have to wear a faja for like, Like, a long time.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Right. And it seems recommended to, like, always.

[Manny Emua]

No, literally, like, they recommend to, like, wear it forever, but, like, for a long, long time. Because you're to get your skin to go back to what it's supposed to be. So it's just. It's the reason. It's because, like, your skin, like, let's say you take out all that fat, your skin's not going to just bounce back to what it was. So you have to be tightened in to help you, like, stay compressed so your skin is not, like.

[Laura Lee]

You don't realize.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You get that thing where it's like your skin is bumpy.

[Manny Emua]

Rippled.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Rippled, yeah. Because you need to add compression after you get it done.

[Laura Lee]

There's so many.

[Manny Emua]

It's crazy. Like, you would not know that there's.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So much that goes behind it that people. I don't even, like, have a bbl, but I'm like. You're like, not yet, but I know so much that goes behind it already.

[Manny Emua]

You have a lot of friends who got bbls.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes.

[Manny Emua]

Clock that team.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You know, everybody around me has bbs.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, okay, I'm holding out.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They're just waiting on us.

[Laura Lee]

Yes, they are. They're like, come to our side.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, it literally is so true. I'm like, laura, we're gonna get a bbl, honey.

[Laura Lee]

I'm gonna get the thickest thighs you've ever seen.

[Manny Emua]

You're gonna be. It's gonna fill in all here.

[Laura Lee]

I can't even get through the door.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You wait.

[Laura Lee]

You wait.

[Manny Emua]

I know exactly what you're talking about.

[Laura Lee]

I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. I've made it this far looking like a pencil. So I'll be sitting on my. However, I will do your waist trainers.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes, me too. I'm not kidding.

[Laura Lee]

Shaped like SpongeBob SquarePants. Truly, always have been.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They will turn you from, like, Honda Civic to, like, a sickening freaking Lamborghini or something.

[Laura Lee]

Love it.

[Manny Emua]

Really? Because I always wonder. I didn't know how waist trainers worked. Really?

[Laura Lee]

I know. Me either.

[Manny Emua]

So, like, how does that work? Does it just, like, keep you over time?

[Dallas Mendoza]

They compress you.

[Manny Emua]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's funny because a lot of people are like, oh, they're dangerous for you. Da, da, da. It's like, so, like, we're all going to die anyways, so might as well die with these fast.

[Manny Emua]

At least looks sickening.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, at least looks sickening while you're out.

[Laura Lee]

BBls are dangerous, too.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, they're dangerous. People get all the time. Boob.

[Laura Lee]

Jobs are dangerous.

[Dallas Mendoza]

The fat you're eating are dangerous. Like, Red 40, whatever the hell.

[Laura Lee]

Cheetos are dangerous. They are.

[Manny Emua]

My deodorant is dangerous.

[Laura Lee]

It is.

[Manny Emua]

And I still wear anti.

[Laura Lee]

I try to get him to stop.

[Manny Emua]

I know. And I still like this.

[Laura Lee]

Deodorants are really bad for you guys.

[Manny Emua]

Well, the ones with the anti perspective.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But it's because it compresses you, like, so much. And they say, like, it's bad for your, like, organs, gut, health, your organs, all that. But it's like, what does it matter? But that's why it snatches you up. You're compressed for so long. So over time, your ribs, like, just.

[Manny Emua]

Start to, like, naturally curvy.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I think that's why mine are already just like that, because I started when I was, like, 15.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah. So, like, you're already naturally.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. And I was like, what? 15? That's so young. You're still. Your body's still developing. Developing. I wasn't even as tall as I am now. You know what I mean? So I was still growing. The way I like to think about it is. I don't know if you guys have seen. I don't know what culture it is, but in some, they, like. I don't even think it's culture. I think it's just, like, something that they do. They put, like, plants inside of, like, a plastic mold, like a watermelon or something. Wait, and they let it grow, and the watermelon ends up molding into whatever that mold is.

[Laura Lee]

They do our cup, whatever. Yes, I've seen that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was thinking of, like, kind of like that.

[Manny Emua]

The ring binding. I was thinking that, too.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No, that too. They start at a very young age. You add a ring every time. It's literally exactly like that.

[Manny Emua]

Like, the feet binding, things like that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Wait, can we get one for Tom? Wait, what can we do, like, tall guys like you? Like, a long.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, yeah. Stretcher, baby. That would be the hottest product on the market.

[Manny Emua]

Have you guys seen that surgery that makes you taller?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Wait, and what did they do for.

[Manny Emua]

Like, $100,000, I think. Or maybe 200,000, I can't remember.

[Laura Lee]

Well, what do they do?

[Manny Emua]

They put a rod inside every, like, a little bit. You crank it to, like, extend it so they can give you. It can give you, like, six inches.

[Laura Lee]

Of length, you guys.

[Manny Emua]

You can become literally, like, six inches taller.

[Laura Lee]

The problem for me is if I met, like, I'm married. We have a. Met a hot guy, and I was single, and I was like, oh, he's so tall. I love him, and I found out he had rods in his legs.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You're going to be pissed.

[Laura Lee]

No, you're. You're going straight to the psych ward. Absolutely.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I like to think I would love him more just because I'm like, I love the commit.

[Manny Emua]

I love them.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I love it. Commitment.

[Manny Emua]

The journey you went through to get that tall.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That means I'm like, you knew I like tall guys. Three years ago. That's how you got it done. Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

That's bonus points for Dallas.

[Manny Emua]

100 grand to do.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's a lot.

[Laura Lee]

That's a lot.

[Manny Emua]

That's crazy.

[Laura Lee]

What's like a BBL? They're different. Different countries. 30 in America.

[Dallas Mendoza]

In here.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Right.

[Manny Emua]

Mine was like, 2020, but I did.

[Laura Lee]

It, like, literally years ago.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, it's like 10:12, girl.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah. I was gonna say in TJ, it's.

[Laura Lee]

Like, not a lot general.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's not a lot. For how scary the whole process is.

[Manny Emua]

I didn't know it was gonna be that scary.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No.

[Manny Emua]

I always tell people. I was like. I was. I feel like I was ground zero because I gotten it, like, nine years ago.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, you did.

[Manny Emua]

And it was like, before, like, bbls.

[Laura Lee]

Were like, patient one.

[Manny Emua]

I was literally patient one. I swear to God. In, like, the space where I got.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It, I was like.

[Manny Emua]

I was literally the first one to get bbl.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

It's all like, a lopsided.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And I know, like, some people can wake up during the process, and some people do wake up and don't feel anything, but they just, like, feel the pressure. The pressure.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, it's crazy. Like, I know it would be bad.

[Laura Lee]

If you woke up during a nose job.

[Manny Emua]

No, your. Your nose skin's like this over your eyes. It's like this. You wake up and you're like.

[Laura Lee]

That's literally what stops me from getting nose job. This clip right here, they put it back down.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They just see your eyes open. Like, the doctor's just like.

[Laura Lee]

You push it back up.

[Manny Emua]

The doctor, you sure?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like this, going back and forth. He just goes, oh, you're fine.

[Manny Emua]

You're fine.

[Laura Lee]

They're bigger.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I would, like. I don't even know what would happen. I'd probably die from, like, in that trauma.

[Laura Lee]

Because that's your face.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes.

[Manny Emua]

We've, like, literally talked about this. I was like, I want a nose job so bad.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's.

[Laura Lee]

No, it's so scary. I'm just scared as well. It's so scary. But then I saw Avery woods just got hers. And it looks so.

[Manny Emua]

It looks so good.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, good.

[Dallas Mendoza]

There's done. And it's like. And sometimes it looks so natural, but.

[Laura Lee]

Then sometimes it don't. I'm gonna be so for real. There's a lot of girlies out there I've seen, and I'm like, I know people who have gotten two and three nose shots because it didn't work out.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It didn't look really hard. Because, like, a lot of the doctors you see will do the same nose on every single person. And I personally would not want that.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah, like your nose.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, but just better, you know?

[Laura Lee]

But it's still my nose. No, a lot of doctors make them all the same, exact same nose. And. But also, you'll look at the nose and go, that's a nose job nose. You know what I mean? I also don't want that. Like, I want it to not look like a nose job nose, where it's just like that perfect little swoop. Like, I don't even want that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

The Whoville.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Because it's like, you look at that and you go, well, that's a no shop.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And I'm such, like, a perfectionist. And I'm so picky that it's like, how can I tell this doctor. Yes. And it's like, how can I tell this doctor exactly what I want? And then, like, just trust him to do it? Like, no, Right.

[Laura Lee]

And then it never. Whenever you're taking your bandage off, it never looks how it's gonna look. So you have to get through that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And it's like two years or, like a year. And then every single person that I've seen with, like, a good nose job, they say it's their second one. And it's like, I'm not doing that.

[Manny Emua]

The revision.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm not doing that.

[Laura Lee]

No, that's too much.

[Manny Emua]

I mean, unless you literally are like, I can't. I need one so badly right now. Like, it's like the. Something like, the worst.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And you're genuinely, like, upset about it every single day, then. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

Hell yeah. Because then even the scoop is going to be more better than what it was.

[Dallas Mendoza]

The way I think of things is, like, when it comes to, like, tattoos, piercings, anything like that, it's like, if I have to, like, second guess it and I have to be like, should I or do I really want it? Then it's an automatic no for me.

[Laura Lee]

That's a really mature thought system you have there.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Because I know how I am, and I know when I really want something. Oh, I'll get it. You know what I mean? So it's like, if I have an iffy feeling about something, just don't do it because I know I don't really want it.

[Laura Lee]

That's really good.

[Manny Emua]

That could be like a little fad or you're like, kind of like, not something I even really want. I thought I might want it because you saw someone else have it and you're like, yeah, yeah, I'm good.

[Laura Lee]

Give it time. See if you still want it. Let's really go.

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[Laura Lee]

What's your. What's your peak?

[Manny Emua]

My peak? Oh, my God. I have. I think I have a combined peak and pit from yesterday. Okay, so I went on a date yesterday and it's the first time I had ever met, but we had been chatting like on ig on my. On my other IG account.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like a guy.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Okay.

[Manny Emua]

So we have been chatting on my Manny Moon account, which is like, my trade account. Let's be honest. Moon account, which is, like, my trade account. Right. So then we're chatting in DMS on there, and we finally end up hanging out yesterday, and we literally were at dinner for, like, three hours. I have not been on a date that long since the last man I dated.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Wow.

[Manny Emua]

Like, literally, I haven't since.

[Laura Lee]

That's a long time.

[Manny Emua]

The, like, X that you actually met.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Oh, wow.

[Manny Emua]

So I haven't been on date that long since him. So I was like, oh, this is, like, going so well. And I usually type that will, like, all right. Like, I will pack it up. Like, I do not mind at all. Okay, cool. This isn't so much fun. Like, I'm busy. Like, I got to go. So I don't mind being that. Especially since I've been dating for so long that I'm like. And I'm going to tell you, like, in and out, you know, if I. If I don't feel the vibes. But I didn't. I really liked it. And so I was going well. And we chatted before, and he was. He's very, like, almost, like, affectionate. And we talked about, like, oh, if it goes well. Like, he was like, I can't wait to kiss you after that kind of vibe. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I'm, like, turned on by that. You know, I'm very much feeling that fantasy, especially because he's like, an older gentleman.

[Laura Lee]

He's very hot. He's really hot.

[Dallas Mendoza]

He's like six. Yes.

[Manny Emua]

I'm six feet, so I like, a six.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Two.

[Manny Emua]

I'm like, you know, I feel very much in that fantasy. So we, you know, the date's over. Walking. Walked in my car. I walk him to his car, and I was like, so am I seeing you? And I thought, so this is why it's my pit, too. I thought we were gonna go into kiss because it went so well. And so I went into, like, kind of going to hug, but he, like, hugged me and not. Did not, like, make a move to kiss. Did not, like, even. I didn't even get the vibe that he wanted to.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Did you slightly go in for, like, a kiss and then you're like, I.

[Manny Emua]

Was going like this. And then I, like, moved because I knew that he was, like, literally full body.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like, was it, like. Like, enough to where he probably noticed it?

[Manny Emua]

No, no, no. Okay. I was like, quite Subtle with it. Because I looked at him going in, but then he turned immediately to hug me. So I was like, okay, I'm turning to. Then, like, I'm not going to go and be like, yeah. So I was just kind of bummed because I was like, fudge. Like, for me, all the times I've dated someone, like, it's been, like, going well. Like, it was just like that. And then we kiss at the end because it just, like, was going so well and like, the vibe was there.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And how did this time it did people end up.

[Manny Emua]

We end up dating.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Dating.

[Manny Emua]

We end up dating for like six months.

[Laura Lee]

Did you tell him?

[Manny Emua]

As long as I've ever dated, though.

[Laura Lee]

After you.

[Manny Emua]

I'm like, that's the longest.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Because I will say, like, in this, like, gay dating world, if a guy is super affectionate from the start and like, not affectionate, but, like, touchy.

[Manny Emua]

Yes, very touchy.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Very sexual, like, from the start, that's kind of a red flag for me.

[Manny Emua]

It's a red flag for me as.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Well, because it's like, you're too sexual hookup.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean?

[Manny Emua]

Or it's like you're fetishizing in a weird way too.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So maybe he just wants to take it slow.

[Manny Emua]

Which I'm like, that could be a really good thing.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's.

[Manny Emua]

And that's what I hope it is. Because he texted me this morning. He's like, hope you have amazing day. Sent me a photo of himself. So I'm like, oh, so it did go good. Because I immediately was like, damn. Like, maybe he wasn't, like, into the vibe in person.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like, wait, is this because I watched the podcast with Bretman. Is this the one you talked on there?

[Manny Emua]

No.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Oh.

[Manny Emua]

It'S a whole ass other bitch. I will, like, sometimes, like, if I'm in my serial dating vibes, I'll like, be dating boots. Like random guys. Like, I'll like, just make it happen. Like a couple in like a row.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

And then I'll go months without it because I'm just, like, so annoyed from doing it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

And so over. I'm burnt out for almost dating and trying it that I'm like, I need to have a me moment.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

You know, a chill. So then I'll go back. I'll go in, like, ebbs and flows with it. Because I'm like, you can only try to date like that for so long.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

And so you're kind of like, I'm tired over it. I don't want to do all this. So. So he was texting me all day today, and now I'm like, oh, maybe, like, it did go well. It did go well. And I. I was reading into it, like, that he didn't want to kiss or that the kiss didn't happen because I just expected it because we kind of, like, almost had chatted about a little bit, and it didn't happen. So I'm like, oh, maybe he didn't like how as much of a good time. But he's texting me, even him.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And in his mind, he's thinking, like, let me not push it, because I don't want him to think that this is just a hookup.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah. 100. Luckily, he's. He's older than me. He's, like, a good 10 years older than me. Yeah, he's a good 10 years older than me. So I didn't think that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I love an older man.

[Manny Emua]

I didn't think that he was gonna.

[Laura Lee]

Be just very handsome.

[Manny Emua]

He's really. He's really. He's a hot guy. I'm not gonna lie. He's very much like my tea. He, like, rides horses, and I'm like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Oh, my God, so do you.

[Manny Emua]

I was, like, right in my alley. So, yeah. So now it's kind of like, I'm gonna see how it goes. This guy. It's so funny because the guy I just went on date with, I was telling Laura about, like, the last one I was. I was seeing. It was like pulling teeth trying to talk to him. Like, it was literally, like, I felt like I was the one that was, like, trying. I'm asking all these questions to talk.

[Dallas Mendoza]

To talk in person.

[Manny Emua]

Like, literally just, like, to have a conversation. You know, sometimes with some guys, they can just be, like, more quiet, and you're, like, asking so many questions just to get them to even.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

Answer something. It was opposite. Like this. Oh.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like, it took a lot to try to get a conversation with them and get something out of him.

[Manny Emua]

Yes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And it was almost like you lean entire conversation him just like.

[Manny Emua]

Like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like a little bit. Okay.

[Manny Emua]

And you're on a date, so you want to fill in that space. It's a little awkward when you don't.

[Laura Lee]

You don't know each other.

[Manny Emua]

You don't know each other, so you're kind of like, okay, well, for. No one's talking, then this is kind of weird. So I'm just gonna talk and try to keep getting you to talk as well. This was opposite. Where he talked so much, and he was so engaging with the conversation and would, like. We would Just volley back and forth. I was like, oh, my God, this is great.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

So, yeah, it's more of a peak than his pit, but the. The. The pit was like. Like the second guessing myself.

[Laura Lee]

Well, my peak is gonna be old news by the time this episode comes out, because it's coming out in two weeks. But Timothy Chalamet went on game day, and it went viral.

[Dallas Mendoza]

What's that with game day?

[Laura Lee]

I love you guys so much. So is that, like, a straight thing? It is. It's a straight thing. So college football game day goes to, like, the most popular, like, schools, and, like, they always have a guest come on. And you never would think it'd be Timothy Chalamet. No, like, the guests are like a football person, and then you just randomly have Timothy Chalamet there. So of course, I'm tuning in because I'm like, what the is he gonna say? And he reads them down boots. All of them. All the officials. He reads them now. So what they do is all the sec, all the conference games that's happening that Saturday, they pick who they think is gonna win based off their sports knowledge, based off the records and what's going on. And these are all professionals. Nick Saban's one of them now because he retired. That's our head coach. So these are all, like, big head honchos that know everything about sports. College football.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So they know everything. And then you just have Timothy Chalamet there, and everybody's kind of giving it a hard time that he's there because he's like this young actor. It's like, what does he have to know?

[Manny Emua]

Yeah, he doesn't know.

[Laura Lee]

Correct.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

He literally is going through and picking the opposite of all the officials. He's telling them quotes and stats of all these football teams that even the officials don't know what he's talking about. He's picking opposite of him them, and he literally destroyed them. Because all of his answers were pretty much correct and sports officials were wrong. Yes.

[Manny Emua]

Timothy Chalame, you.

[Laura Lee]

Are everybody saying he's that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I mean, I'm not really in shock. Like, he's a guy.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, yeah.

[Manny Emua]

I'm not either.

[Laura Lee]

What's in Dune? Allah.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, my God.

[Laura Lee]

What's his name? G. Everybody's like, duh. Have you seen Dune?

[Manny Emua]

You seen Dune?

[Dallas Mendoza]

I've saw the. I seen the first one.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, yeah. So, like, he's.

[Laura Lee]

He knows the future. Like, he knows what's coming. So they're all like, I like aid. Of course.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Of course you do.

[Manny Emua]

Of course we do.

[Laura Lee]

That But I just love. What is it? Lisa Alagai.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, that was giving, like.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, okay. Bilingual over here, he's called on Dune. And he, like, knows the future. So it's just so funny because all these sports coaches are like, what is he, this little kid doing on here? And he, like, read them all. His eyes go blue, like, boop, boop, boop.

[Manny Emua]

He's like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm like, oh, God.

[Manny Emua]

I live.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I live.

[Manny Emua]

Have you seen the, like, it went.

[Laura Lee]

So viral, by the way. Like, everybody's freaking out.

[Manny Emua]

The Timothy look alike.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I saw that. There was like a huge lookalike thing. Was it in New York? I don't even know.

[Manny Emua]

And he showed up for it. Timothy's just a man for the people, I've come to realize.

[Laura Lee]

Wait, what's it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

What Showed up for that look alike thingy.

[Manny Emua]

Yes. So there was a lookalike contest of Timothy in New York? Yeah, there was a lookalike contest. Timothy shows up to it.

[Laura Lee]

You're kidding.

[Manny Emua]

And it went viral, too.

[Laura Lee]

And I was really like, he said, book the jet. He don't give a fuck.

[Manny Emua]

Give a fuck. He's a man of the people.

[Laura Lee]

He is a man of the people.

[Manny Emua]

He showed up and he's like, I.

[Laura Lee]

Think I look like I really love him. I respect him so much. I think he's going to be one of the greatest actors of our time.

[Manny Emua]

Are him and Kylie still together?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, I think so. They don't follow each other, but.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, shit.

[Laura Lee]

Are you serious?

[Dallas Mendoza]

I don't think that matters.

[Laura Lee]

Right.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, I'm sure they even say, like, you don't have to follow because Timothee Chalamet doesn't follow anybody. Zero.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So I'm sure she's like, well, if you don't follow me, why the fuck am I following you?

[Manny Emua]

Like, yeah, you know, very.

[Laura Lee]

That very. That Their personalities are so different to me. Like, what I've seen of Kylie and him, I don't.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Okay. I feel like Timothy Shalom is very, like, nerdy and, like, funny.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And comical. Kylie's kind of like, fun though, too. Like fun.

[Laura Lee]

Is she?

[Dallas Mendoza]

She is behind the scenes. Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

She just gives. Which you have to be careful when you're that famous. You can't give people your full personality. Yeah, but, you know, she's very like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But like, back in her. What's it called, Days.

[Laura Lee]

King Kylie.

[Dallas Mendoza]

King Kylie. But like, even before that, she would always post on Snapchat. Always. And she was like, very goofy.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

Okay. Do you know what?

[Laura Lee]

We just don't see that as much.

[Dallas Mendoza]

She like, hides it.

[Manny Emua]

Now she activated some of her goofiness, and I was like, oh, Kylie. So I like. It is why I follow you.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

Because she actually did a post, and she was mimicking Kendall when she's. And she was, like, doing the same thing, and I was like, this is funny. Like, this is kind of like a.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes. It's not even, like, her full goofiness.

[Laura Lee]

That wasn't even funny to me at all, actually. But maybe there's, like, a huge side of Kylie that we don't see anymore because she's so famous. And you can't just be giving them everything because you'll get picked apart out there. So she probably reserves herself.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah. Or like Fred of good people.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Manny Emua]

100% sure. 100%.

[Laura Lee]

Good for her, though.

[Manny Emua]

I love that. What's your pet?

[Dallas Mendoza]

My pet. I, like, have literally thought of trying to, like, say a different pit. I'm trying to avoid this. I'm like, y'all, this cannot be my pit. Like, I don't care. Like, this can't be my pit. But it has to be my pick. It's the only thing that really, like, bothered me this whole week. Basically, I went out on Saturday or whatever the hell, and honestly, what bothers me more is, like, why did this person, like, tell me this? Like, what is like. You know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

It's like, here we go.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I don't care. But it's like, why tell me this? It's almost like I don't even care about the situation or those people. I care that you told me because it's like, why tell me that?

[Manny Emua]

To try to like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, it's like, why? Like, it's like, I don't even care. But why, you know, anyways, this person. A friend, which I thought was a friend, but now I'm like, I don't. I don't think I would call somebody a friend, you know? Anyways, he came up to me and he was like, oh, I need to tell you something that I. But he was, like, super drunk, and I was like, oh, what? Tell me. He's like, oh, it's about so and so. And I was like, oh, I don't care if. Oh. Actually, no, What I told him was, oh, if it's about him, which is like, if it's about the ex best friend, I don't care.

[Manny Emua]

Totally.

[Laura Lee]

If it's about, like, don't want to hear.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's like, the way I think about it, it's like, him. I had. I have enough time to Give a fuck. About to ruin his life or whatever the fuck. The ex best friend, I don't care.

[Laura Lee]

It's done.

[Manny Emua]

It's done.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Let it be. You know what I mean? So that's what I said. And he goes kind of both. And that kind of gagged me because I'm like, what are you gonna say? So then my, like, fucking drunk ass, I was like, okay, tell me. Low key, my fault. But no, he was like, it's because he was very much like, straight time. Straight time. Like that.

[Manny Emua]

Making a full moment.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, it's like, just tell me. Long story short, he told me how, like, he had already bought a house or not. Or, like, got an Airbnb for Coachella. And he asked him, because he's friends with him, whatever. My ex best friend, he asked him if he wanted to stay at the house and he like, offered him to stay there. And I guess the ex best friend was like, oh, yeah, like, can I bring so and so. And can I also bring. Oh, he was like, and don't tell anybody, but can I also bring my ex?

[Manny Emua]

Your ex?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes, obviously, you know, saying all the names. And I was just like, see, that.

[Manny Emua]

Would annoy the fuck out of me. Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So it's like, I don't care.

[Laura Lee]

But you're like, I don't even care about the situation. I care that you felt it was necessary.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's like, why ruin my night?

[Laura Lee]

I was having such a rise out of you. For themselves.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes. And I just been thinking about it the whole time because one of those things where it's like, I don't care. And I literally, like, tell myself, like, dallas, no. It's like, you're sick me. Like, yeah, these voices are launched. Like, don't even care.

[Manny Emua]

But then it's like, but it's like the bad Dallas. Like, yeah, I care, but it's like, you know, the inner, like, House Mendoza is like, yeah, dude. Like, that's a frustrating.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, like, Dallas Mendoza, like, doesn't care. I don't care. But then Dallas. Dallas, the one that Loki got hurt?

[Manny Emua]

Yes. The, like, the inner you.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

I'm like, honestly, I'm like, I'm over here, like, our pits. I want to get into this drama.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But back to, like, at the end of the day, it's like, I mean, like, why care? Because I'm doing all this. You know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, yeah. Because you're human. You're a human being. That's why. I mean, it's easy to be like, you know, like, things are going great. Like, I'm gonna focus on the past because at the end of the day, like it's something you experienced and went through. So I mean, you have feelings.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, I don't have to sleep escort for a week to get Coachella tickets.

[Laura Lee]

So like the slight read. The slight read.

[Manny Emua]

No, that was a big read. That wasn't even slight. That was a full read. That was like, you know what, I don't need to be.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I get invited together.

[Manny Emua]

You're like, maybe the brand. Take me.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So I really try not to care, but okay, I don't care. But it's like the whole. What is it called? The whole.

[Manny Emua]

The principle. It's the principle. That's what I care about 100%. The thing is, that's tough about it too is that like when you get into and it becomes such a public thing, it becomes like almost everyone wants to talk to you about this.

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It came so public, a lot of.

[Dallas Mendoza]

A lot of the things that people really don't know is that, that the whole drama already happened a month before.

[Manny Emua]

So you had a month process a.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Month before it went online? Literally probably exactly a month the first post was made of. Like, why aren't they friends? Because that's what happened. Why aren't they friends?

[Laura Lee]

I was the first post Speculating.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

People speculating. So you and your ex friend were best friends online, posting each other all the time. All the time you're dating someone?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

As well.

[Manny Emua]

And for a long time.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

And your ex best friend is friends with the person you're dating or explain that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's another thing is they said they were friends, but. Okay. It kind of like they became over time friends over time. And it was weird to me. It was just fishing weird because from the beginning it was never like they liked each other. And then the more we like me and him got closer. It was almost as if like my ex best friend, like, he would. He didn't even like him. Like he would be like, why do you bring him out?

[Manny Emua]

He's so boring.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like this and that. Like. And then my ex like, would talk shit on him too, being like, oh, he's very egotistical. Like this. Like it was like at each other. They didn't even like, towards the end, it like kind of like even like threw me for like a. It was like a slap in the face. Like, wait, what the.

[Manny Emua]

You know what I mean?

[Dallas Mendoza]

But there was a lot of moments where I would like catch the ex best friend staring at like, you know, my ex a lot. It wasn't my ex towards him. It was more my ex best friend towards him. Like, very touchy. I literally have like a video on snap of like us out, like out after party. And then like, ugh, this is so stupid. Is think about. But it's like also like, it's a little weird. Okay.

[Manny Emua]

It hits you like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like, some people are not gonna think it's weird. Some people are gonna think it's weird. I don't care. But it's like I have a video of me recording myself and then my ex best friend, like reaches and it was my ex next to me. He grabs his hand to like help him sit down.

[Laura Lee]

And you were like, read. There's a little.

[Manny Emua]

So like we're gonna read into things too?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes.

[Manny Emua]

It's gonna be way different. And it was gonna read into it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Weird things like that. Like, weirder than that at times. Like, there was one time where I saw messages in his phone from my ex best friend. It was like a snap. And it was a night that we were all gonna go out together with like other friends. Not just us three, but like other friends. And I got mad because they were planning a whole thing without me.

[Manny Emua]

And I fully just like, I left.

[Dallas Mendoza]

My from the situation. I stopped. Like, I ignore. They were calling me and like texting me like, oh, let's still go out. But I found out that they were planning like without me. Like, that's weird to go out that night.

[Manny Emua]

And it was weird.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So I stopped engaging like you said. And then. But whatever. Later on I text my ex And I was like, I'm still gonna go out. Like I'll see all that, whatever, but like, don't. And obviously he goes, tells them stuff. But they ended up not going out because I got mad or whatever. So I ended up just being me, my ex out. This is like one night a while. Whatever.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

End up just being me, my ex out. And throughout the night I see him like texting and it's a snap from my ex best friend. So not only do I. That same night, I find out they have a streak and they're snapping and I'm like, no, not the streak.

[Manny Emua]

I'm like, you like they stop every day.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Remember? They were not friends. Okay? They were not friends. This is something where it's like they built up to it.

[Laura Lee]

And that's weird.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's like I don't see y'all kicking it like that or like kicking like that in front of me. So it's like, what's going on behind. Because when we're all in the same room, they're not talking, right? So it's like, what's. What's the key key behind the scenes. It was very much like that. And I'm like, I'm such an overthinker. I'm such a, like a. Let me connect the dots. You're like, yes. So I see him snapping and only that. But I see messages that say, all I saw was don't let him see this. Oh, I snap. I. I snatched his phone right away.

[Manny Emua]

Yes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And I started reading and it was just saying like, I want to get it right. It was saying like, don't let him see you snapping me. Haha. With a laughing face. I snatched his phone and I got so mad and I was like, what the hell is this? And then he goes, no, no. Like he's like obviously explaining himself. He's like, it's not like that. He was just saying, don't let you don't let him see whatever them snapping. Because I was mad about the situation prior or whatever that like, that was his excuse.

[Manny Emua]

That's his reasoning. Like he's already mad. He's already mad.

[Dallas Mendoza]

He's already mad.

[Laura Lee]

That's really.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And that. And honestly, since then, it was just like I was keeping a hard eye out. And because I was keeping a hard eye out is what caused the situation worse and worse. Because then me and my ex best friend would get into like, not arguments, but just like, you know, sending the paragraphs, tips, little like thingies on messages. Because he would be like, oh, you were like, Side eyeing me at the club. Or, oh, you were, like, staring at me super hard. Or like, why are you giving me a dirty look? Whenever I'm talking to your ex and me, I would just be like, oh, I don't know. I'm just drunk. Or, oh, yeah, I'm ignoring it. In reality, sweetheart, you knew.

[Laura Lee]

You knew what time it was.

[Dallas Mendoza]

He was the kind of person where it's like, you can't get anything through to him. You tell him, you know it's not. Nothing is gonna get through him. Like, if I tell him my reasoning behind it, he's gonna be like, oh, well, we're just friends. We're all just friends.

[Laura Lee]

It's not gonna do anything, so.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's not gonna do anything, so there's no point in me even trying. That's how it was the whole time.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah. That's what you felt.

[Laura Lee]

You're just gonna set up a case where he defends himself. You're gonna have to deal with.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Here's another guy.

[Manny Emua]

Let me just say this too. Like, that situation blew up on Tick Tock. Like, they're like. Like the. Like, it literally became almost like a your side, ex friend side, Other friends involved. It became like a really big thing. That's why we're like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And it was a long time ago. We don't have to fully go back to it. I'm just explaining, like, more of it. Because I Totally not, you know, but, like, don't go hating on anybody and don't go starting more because, like, it's.

[Laura Lee]

It's just done.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

And we're.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm just kind of re saying what was already online because when I tell you, they got it down to a T. Like the.

[Manny Emua]

The. The. The followers, like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, I didn't say a word. They didn't say a word. Like, I said, it's happened a month later. They got it down to a T because he started. This is like flash forwarding. I'll go back to, like, the other thing. But he commented on somebody's post saying, like, I'm not fake like other people during this time.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, shit.

[Dallas Mendoza]

The drama already went down. We.

[Laura Lee]

Me, your ex best friend did that?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes, me. And so how it ended at the very end was me and my ex got in a fight and we ho. No way. No, no, no. We got in a fight and we ho. No, no. This was whenever it ended. This is whenever, like, it ended.

[Manny Emua]

Got it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Me and my ex. No, not ex. Best friend. X. Sorry.

[Manny Emua]

Ex.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Ex Got in an argument. We hoe. And the argument Was around best friend. Because I finally was speaking up and I was like, why are you mentioning him so much? Why are you talking about him so much? And he knew something that I didn't because he kept saying, like, why are you guys mad at each other? Like, why aren't you guys talking? Da, da, da. And I'm just like, wait, me and him are good. What is he telling you? Like, what is the tea that I don't know. Like, what does he have? Like, he could not. I don't want the word isn't. Like, he doesn't have nothing against me, but there's something. What does he have, like, towards me that he's telling you that you're thinking we have drama. We don't have drama. I was like, so confused too. Like, in WeHo, like, people are coming.

[Manny Emua]

What are you talking about?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Literally, people are coming up to me saying hi. Like, and it's so funny because it's like one of the nights where it's like, the most packed, the most amount of people coming up to me, and I'm over here talking to this man. It's embarrassing. It's like, I'm Jocelyn Mendoza. Why am I following this man around? Why am I arguing with this man in public? You know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But it's like, it was so weird anyways. He was being like, oh, like, why are y'all mad at each other? Why are you arguing? Why can't y'all just be good? And I'm just like, what do you mean?

[Laura Lee]

We are good. Was he? What are y'all saying?

[Dallas Mendoza]

I will say, though, he was very drunk.

[Manny Emua]

Very.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So to me, it's like. Like you're spilling it all out. Right? Right. He was being very weird. Fast forward. We run into my ex best friend that night, and I go up to him and I'm like, hi. And he, like, fully just, like, not even say hi. He just goes like. Like, turns. And I'm like, okay.

[Manny Emua]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. So it was that. That night. Since that night, me and him. Me and my ex best friend, like, haven't talked after that. It was done.

[Manny Emua]

It was done. Yeah. I don't know what happened.

[Laura Lee]

Conversation without cool words.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But here's the other guy. I was always, like, reaching out to my ex and he was like, he would never talk about anything. It's like what you said about that guy, the last one, it was like. It was like picking teeth, trying to.

[Manny Emua]

Pull anything out of trying to pull anything.

[Dallas Mendoza]

He had a lot of, like, personal issues going on, I will say, and things like that. So a lot of it was like, I understand why you don't want to talk, or I understand this, whatever the hell. But it was very much like that. So this time around, we had that argument and I was like, no, no. Every time we have an argument, I'm always coming to him and trying to, like, fix things or like, you know what I mean? Trying to, like, talk.

[Manny Emua]

You're the one trying to figure it out.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. Trying to figure it out. I'm like, I'm. Let him do it. He didn't talk to me for like a week. He never reached back. And guess who he was hanging out with.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, my God.

[Dallas Mendoza]

The whole time, probably like two, three days later, my ex best friend wasn't talking to me. He wasn't talking to me. And it was very. Just like, quiet girl.

[Manny Emua]

That's a quiet. That's so petty.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was like, I'm not reaching out to anyone.

[Laura Lee]

That was very loud.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And it was like that for a month. We did not talk at all.

[Manny Emua]

A month. And that's what this went online.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So this is why people see us stop hanging out.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Somebody makes a video being like, hey, they're not hanging out. What's going on? Somebody else makes a video being like. I think they just say, okay, like, this is what's going on. And then they, like, literally grab receipts.

[Manny Emua]

Like, they clock the T. They clock.

[Dallas Mendoza]

The T. They saw. Oh. Oh. I will say I was not saying shit during that month. I was going, like, through it. I was going through it. I don't like saying that. I was crying to my mom.

[Laura Lee]

Everything. Yes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Best friend. That was my best friend. Like, I did not tell anybody anything.

[Manny Emua]

Like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And that I was telling him everything. Like, that was like my literal best friend. So it was just all. Not only was it like a slap in the face, it was like a. Oh, it was like a. My first ever fake laugh. Betrayal. That all I want. So thank God.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah, I'm scared. I'd be scared as hell with these guys. They scare me.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But thank God I have my mom with me.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Stay with me for like, two weeks.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, I love that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like, two weeks. No, she lives in. Well, here in California, actually. Oh, my village.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So she came to visit me. She stayed with me throughout the whole time. But so anyways, it was quiet for a month. I was continuing to do my videos. I was acting like nothing happened. That happened. And it was. It happened while I was in Cabo.

[Laura Lee]

When did.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, my God. Literally, they were in. They were on a Cabo.

[Laura Lee]

When did he Leave the comment. That was like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It was. I want to say, around the middle of that month.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It was the month of the middle.

[Laura Lee]

They use that as receipts as well, to be like, there's something going on here.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Okay. And there was a lot of sounds being used. I don't want to lie. I use a sound too. Like, that was like kind of like throwing a little bit, but it wasn't shading. Like, it was just like a. It was a shady. I don't give a.

[Manny Emua]

You know, they were doing it too.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was doing. But the. The other gag is they were all doing it. He had a group of friends and they were all shading. It was just.

[Manny Emua]

Right, right. Yep.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm not bringing none of my friends into this. I can find my own fights. You know what I mean? But it was just me doing the shading. Whatever.

[Laura Lee]

Right?

[Dallas Mendoza]

So then whatever. Oh, that comment was like in the middle. Around the middle of the month. And then everybody put together.

[Laura Lee]

Everybody put together, going on making videos.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Videos were posted while we were. I was in Cabo for Louie's birthday.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And it was all going down, honestly.

[Laura Lee]

Thank God.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Best way for drama that has to do with me to go down with my girls that make me laugh all the time, all that funniest in the world. And they were being so supportive, too. They were just telling me, like, don't even say anything. Just ignore it. Like this happened. Because I did tell Louis about whenever all that happened, like, again during that month that I was quiet, obviously, I talked to Louis, told him everything, and he was just telling me, like, ignore it. Like, you know who you are. You know, the. The truth that I just, like, let that play out. And it was playing out, and when.

[Manny Emua]

It played out, it played out and it played.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It played.

[Manny Emua]

You watch one of those videos.

[Laura Lee]

Well, the first wind I caught of any of it was your ex best friend made a video. Did he make a video first or was it you?

[Dallas Mendoza]

So.

[Laura Lee]

Because that's the first. And then I was like, hold on.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So I wasn't saying anything.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was being quiet.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It wasn't until somebody. I would say, this is like the second drama day or the third drama day.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Drama. Get it. No, I'm just kidding.

[Manny Emua]

It's literally like the TikTok drama.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Get in. But I want to say it was like the third or second day. I don't know. Somebody posted a video that I guess somebody from his friend group posted, and it was a video that they screenshotted. So it wasn't a video. It was A screenshot that they screenshotted from her video that she posted this vlog.

[Manny Emua]

I saw the video.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You saw the video?

[Manny Emua]

I know exactly.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And deleted it right after. I'm guessing because people were commenting.

[Manny Emua]

I follow her, so I know people are commenting.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You saw the video?

[Manny Emua]

That's why I activated me. That's what I saw.

[Laura Lee]

The video with them on the ground together.

[Manny Emua]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Got it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So the screenshot was then posted to another account that reposted that screenshot. It was once I saw that screenshot.

[Manny Emua]

You said that and.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Okay, let me tell you on my situation. I'm in Cabo. I'm already drunk. I'm in bed. I'm in the hotel already. It's like 4am I see that video. Oh, I turn on my phone right away and I start speaking. The video that people saw, however, it wasn't speaking like, you know, it was.

[Manny Emua]

Speaking like, oh, so crazy how you can have friends. That just was your video first.

[Laura Lee]

And then he made a video after that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. So. But I didn't even say video saying anything.

[Laura Lee]

What's your video on Snapchat or Tick Tock?

[Dallas Mendoza]

No, it was on Tick Tock. I didn't say anybody's name. All I said, it was on his other account. It's still up. And it was on my spam account. That's why it's a fucking spam account.

[Manny Emua]

So there's like, a lot of things.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That go around it. I didn't say any names. I did it on my spam account.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You know what I mean? And all I said was, thank you to this account for showing me the truth. Because in all. In all, like, realness, I didn't have any confirmation of what was really going on between them. I didn't have any conversation.

[Manny Emua]

Right. It was just allegations, hearsay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Right. I knew that we stopped being friends, and I knew that whole thing was weird throughout that whole month. It was all weird to me because I didn't know for sure, but it was so weird. You know what I mean? It wasn't until I saw that screenshot that I was like, that's all I need.

[Manny Emua]

Yep.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. And the funny thing is there's so many funny things that they were saying that I was like, sweetheart, let me clock it right now, real quick. So the girl said that she deleted that video the next or God knows how many later because she was so drunk in that video. Right. But it's like, wait, you deleted the video, but you posted a mukbang account that same. A mukbang video that same night? On your mukbang account, but you weren't with the food that they ordered. That's why in her video, she said they ordered food, and that's why they were on the ground. And they said that they were like, oh, they fell asleep while waiting for the food. That's so funny, because one of them said they fell asleep because they were too drunk. The other one said they fell asleep because they ate too much or some bullshit like that. The other one said they fell asleep while they were waiting for the.

[Manny Emua]

I don't know.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It was all separate.

[Manny Emua]

Different versions. Different versions, yes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And what really like what I clocked that I saw nobody else clocked was that she said she deleted the video. She deleted the video because she was too drunk. Yet on your mukbang account, that same night, you posted a mukbang video eating the food that y'all ordered to that house and kept it up, but you were so drunk, so you deleted it.

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[Dallas Mendoza]

And that's the reason you deleted it? That's not the reason.

[Laura Lee]

My thing is in this situation, looking from the outside in and not personally knowing your ex, not personally knowing your best friend. For me, I have a best friend and I have a husband. So my thing is, if I'm having problems with my husband or anything's going on there, any arguments or anything, and you're in the cahoots with him, Whether you're trying to date or talk talk. That's already a problem.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's already an issue.

[Laura Lee]

My best friend. How dare you? How dare you not be by my side holding my hand whenever I'm going through this?

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's the other thing. It's like, regardless. Because even like they were, obviously they're gonna go online, they're gonna say, there's nothing happening. We're just friends. Whatever. Regardless. You were my best principal. The principal. You were my best friend. You met him through me. And that's another thing. Online. I didn't. I didn't. That video he made that you saw, I didn't climb back at it. I don't care enough. Okay, Right. But but in that video, he did say that he met him. No, you didn't. You were mutuals. You were mutuals. I met him at Coachella. In person.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Around that same time that you were mutuals with him. And it's cute that he even posted proof, like, saying, like, oh, look, we met each other. How do you meet somebody through Instagram?

[Laura Lee]

Like, yeah, that's not your mutual.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's not mutuals. Your mutuals. And then he called them a friend. It's like, I don't know how y'all call people friends, but I take that. Like, they saying it so lightly. It's like, you weren't friends. You were mutuals. You followed each other.

[Manny Emua]

You're not even acquaintances, actually, you're less than acquaintances.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

You're mutuals.

[Laura Lee]

I think all of that doesn't even matter because he was your best friend. And it's not back to that. Right.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You were my best before we had this.

[Laura Lee]

Doesn't matter if they hooked up.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Such a strong connection.

[Laura Lee]

Doesn't matter if they didn't. He was your best friend.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Another thing is you built. Let's say y'all did build a friendship.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Who did you do it through?

[Laura Lee]

Through me. Exactly.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And who was your best friend first?

[Laura Lee]

Exactly.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Me. Like, who did you cry with? Who did you do all this with? Like, me. It's like, oh, it's just so weird. It's so fake, and it's just so weird. But, oh, the other gag. Gag. Is. Is he actually, from the start, dm. He did DM my ex a long time ago. Whenever they said there were few mutuals, he DMX being like, oh, you're cute. So he was. He did have that interest.

[Manny Emua]

There was already something there.

[Dallas Mendoza]

There's already. He had that interest towards him. But I don't think my ex had the interest towards him because, yeah, everything ever happened. Nothing ever happened, and he ended up with me. So it's like. But again, like, yeah, I mean, he's.

[Manny Emua]

Like, well, why would you have him? That's why.

[Dallas Mendoza]

My issue was never with like. So anytime there was, like, any, like, oh, you're staring at me, our little, like, arguments or whatever, it was never my ex towards him. It was you towards him. Because I know you DM'd him and I know your interest in him, your intuition. And at first I was like. Like, I didn't care about it. Literally, from the start, I didn't care about it. It wasn't until I started noticing those, like, little things, little by little, building up that it's just like, this is not. Like, friends don't do that.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean? Like, no, that's the thing for me. Friends don't do that.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah, they don't do that.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean? Like, if I had a huge problem with someone that Manny didn't know or just knew through me, and he's snapping them while I'm working. Yeah, I have a problem.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So, you know, it doesn't matter if there's an attraction there or not. It's already.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And there's just.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So many other things that went on behind where it's like, this is why I was just so in shock. But again, I didn't say. I didn't. Prior a month before, you didn't respond.

[Laura Lee]

To his video that you put out.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No, I didn't.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, wow.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I just let him do that. And I was like, keep it. I don't care. But a month before, probably like a month and a half, whatever, we had, like, an. Oh, me and my ex were having an argument. Whatever. And I had a conversation with my ex best friend at the time. And I was just saying, like, I know y'all are building a friendship, and I know, like, y'all are musas. Whatever the hell I said, if anything were to happen with me and him, like, what's the tea? You know what I mean? And he. It was in person. He straight up, like, grabbed my shoulders, and he was like, I need to reassure you. Like, if anything were to ever happen between you guys, you are my friend.

[Laura Lee]

Wow.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was your friend first. Like, fully looking at me dead in the eye, he was like, you have nothing to worry about. Like, because me and him were going through, like, an issue. You know what I mean? And I was, like, going through it. So he was like, you have nothing to worry about. Like, you are my friend. Like that. So imagine your best friend telling you that.

[Manny Emua]

The extra reassurance.

[Dallas Mendoza]

The extra reassurance. And then a month later.

[Manny Emua]

And then a month later.

[Dallas Mendoza]

A month and a half or whatever. A month and a half. A month later. Whatever. It's like that. So it's like y'all could just imagine the biggest slap in my face.

[Manny Emua]

I mean, absolutely. It's like. It's beyond. It's literally beyond.

[Laura Lee]

Damn, that sucks. Okay, so what do we learn from this? With friendships online, to be careful. Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You know what?

[Manny Emua]

We've had very close friends.

[Laura Lee]

Listen.

[Manny Emua]

That have burned.

[Laura Lee]

We all. Hello.

[Dallas Mendoza]

We've all been there.

[Laura Lee]

That's all I am. The audience right now is thinking about their friends. They're like, yeah, yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's a learning moment.

[Laura Lee]

Seriously, that's what.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Because there was many times with this ex best friend that it was like jealousy moments. And I pushed that away because to me, like, it was like, somebody's always gonna be jealous of you. Oh, wait, it doesn't matter. But it's like I push those moments away. That's what fucked up. Don't ever do that. Because it's like your best friend shouldn't be jealous of you or compete. So if you ever feel that way, drop them in seconds because it should not ever feel that way.

[Laura Lee]

So true.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Me being new to la, like, new to all this, like being like best friends with this person, it's like I would just push those moments away because I, like, I'd rather not lose this great friend.

[Laura Lee]

It's worth it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, no, yeah, don't do that.

[Manny Emua]

Well, it's crazy because again, hindsight is 20 20. And then you start to see all these signs that you're like. Like, I didn't see those signs before.

[Laura Lee]

Hindsight, 20 20. That's the thing. Blame yourself for ignoring those warning signals. Like, you can't because you have to experience them and learn from them. And the next time it comes around, you're like a real quick.

[Manny Emua]

And you're also so young.

[Laura Lee]

Exactly.

[Manny Emua]

Like, you really are so young.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Also, like, with my ex, it had to end somehow. Like, it was one of those situation.

[Manny Emua]

Ships thingies boiling to a point.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It was just like, what are we? It was like, it almost felt like dating a straight man.

[Laura Lee]

Were you guys together?

[Dallas Mendoza]

So not like fully together together, but we've known each other forever. We knew each other for a year.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And we started really, really, like, getting serious canoeing. I would say canoodling. Six months.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like after. No, for the past six months. Yeah, before the drama.

[Laura Lee]

Before.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So that's like. Oh, wait, that's like half a year, right? Yeah, half the year in. Yeah, but I'm telling you, like, spending every single day with this man, also.

[Laura Lee]

In gay time, that's like five years and gay.

[Manny Emua]

That's five years in gay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's five. Putting money into this. I paid for his phone because he lost it in WeHo, so I paid for it because he was broke. He doesn't have any money. I would pay for every Uber. I'd pay for every meal. I paid for his phone that he is now texting my ex best friend on. I paid for his passport that he now used to go back to North Carolina, wherever the he's from. And he'll Use that passport again.

[Manny Emua]

Where the.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, and he'll use that for North Carolina, and he'll use that passport again when he comes back to Coachella. So.

[Manny Emua]

Right, right.

[Laura Lee]

I literally just did a tick tock. And it. It's literally for you. It's like, so you met him in February and he needed money in March. I literally just did that tick. I'm gonna send it to you. It's identical right now. What you're expecting. Yeah, that's a red flag.

[Dallas Mendoza]

My other advice to everyone is never date a broke man.

[Laura Lee]

Sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle. No, no, no.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And the thing is, like. Like, you might think you're broke, but no, no, you're not broke until you meet broke. Like, I'm telling you. Nothing. Like I said, escorting.

[Manny Emua]

That's a clip right there. Let me tell you. Never did a broke man, and you've never met broke.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I mean, you don't know broke until you've met, bro.

[Manny Emua]

No, honestly, it's funny because the last guy I really liked, you guys. I'm talking like, I, like that was gonna be my man, you know, like the by one. One.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I love a bi man.

[Manny Emua]

I do, too. I love a bi man. I just cannot help it. I love a by man. He was broke. His joke, I'm gonna be real. And I was still like, you know what? Like, I got this. Like, I'm gonna be fine. And it was. And what's crazy looking back on it is that, like, I was still gonna be down. Even though he was broke as a joke, I was still gonna be down.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's the embarrassing part. Like, yes, it's really that.

[Laura Lee]

It's like the sprinkle sprinkle lady right now. But this is why I think that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Whole situation happened for a reason. Because I don't think I would have let this man go. I really don't think so. And thank God that this happened.

[Laura Lee]

Thank you.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But yes, thank you. Seriously, thank you. Because I'm. I'm not even kidding. It was almost like a tie or like a weight holding me down. Once that was gone, I flourished so much after that. You know what I mean? And it's weird because, like, once you stop talking to a guy guy, it's almost like. Or like a serious guy. It's almost like so many more just start coming in. 100 crazy, right? It's like. Like holding, like, food and like a pond full of.

[Manny Emua]

It's an energy thing. I think it's an energy thing, too.

[Laura Lee]

Energy.

[Manny Emua]

Like, you're. You're putting off closed off energy because you're talking to someone when you have this open, aware, like, happy, go lucky. You're literally attracting.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I guess what I think it was. I was. I would always go out with him. I'm sure you've seen me out, girl.

[Manny Emua]

I've seen. I've seen a gazillion times.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Well, he would have witnessed me.

[Manny Emua]

It was always with me. It was literally.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It started becoming that thing where it's like, oh, where's I always.

[Manny Emua]

Where's the tall guy?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, where's the dog? Oh, where's dolls to him, like.

[Manny Emua]

But it's funny because I didn't know you guys were even really a thing. I thought you guys were really close friends. And then it was until later I was like, oh, that's the guy that he's talking about.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And that's why. That's why I said it goes back to, like, it felt like sitting. Dating a straight person because, yeah, in public it was very. Just like, we would look like best friends even. But he was mute. We had our moments, you know, he was a mute. A mute. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

I don't think. I think I may spoke. I think one word to him.

[Laura Lee]

Got it.

[Manny Emua]

I met him, what, ten times now?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

How are you with a mute?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Well, that's. And I think that's.

[Manny Emua]

You probably have to overcompensate for his meals.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But that's the thing, and I think that's why I did like him so much, is that he was a mute to everybody else. Yeah, he was a mute to, like, everybody else. But then me, like, special special. Like, we would talk every single morning, every single night. I have a screenshot of, like, seven missed calls from one day that was, like, so busy. And like, he was calling me seven times because I wasn't answering. Like, it was that vibe. Yeah, no, not a. I heard that.

[Manny Emua]

I'm like, yeah, no, that's. That's. Honestly, it's. It's so unfortunate. Like, especially, like, the real unfortunate is dealing with this online.

[Laura Lee]

Online.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Online.

[Laura Lee]

That's the only thing to deal with it in your personal life. And then now you had to deal with it online.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And not only that, but it's like you already dealt with it. You're over it, moving on, done. Boom. And it's just like, y'all, I just went through this. Yeah, it's like we just did.

[Laura Lee]

Like, it's just finished. It's done.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And then, like, your followers will just start asking for more and more and more. It's like, I'm not gonna give it to you because I already went through it.

[Manny Emua]

Like, I. Yeah, well, it's also like actually traumatizing too.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes.

[Manny Emua]

Like you, you, you, you get traumatized from this kind of like vitriol that's happening online and in person.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It really does.

[Manny Emua]

So it's like you, like, you almost get triggered by.

[Dallas Mendoza]

My trust issues now are like beyond.

[Laura Lee]

And they should be though it's sad.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That they should be bad because any new guy that comes in now, it's like I almost feel bad and it's just like I don't think I'm ready for anything new because my trust issues are just so. Right now.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

It's like I don't like, work through them.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No guy deserves to like, you know, like, you know what I mean, have that. The problem with me having trust issues, you know, I mean, I'm not gonna be through that. Let me figure my out first and then I'll come back.

[Laura Lee]

I love that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Which is amazing.

[Manny Emua]

It literally is growth.

[Laura Lee]

Do you talk to your ex best friend or your anymore?

[Manny Emua]

And during what about the ex friend group? Do you talk to any of those people anymore? Like the friend?

[Dallas Mendoza]

No, because it's like you guys were letting this happen.

[Manny Emua]

Okay. Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Not only that, but there was a few other in that group that also hooked up with them after.

[Manny Emua]

Oh yeah, she got fierce.

[Laura Lee]

Oh my God.

[Manny Emua]

No, the gag is too.

[Dallas Mendoza]

This story has learned it's truth because one of their friends who was in their friend group now is back into the friend groups that I'm seeing. I'm not saying any names, told me. So when they dropped him, he came and told me, aired it out. And then now recently he's been hanging out with them again. So I'm like, oh, cute.

[Manny Emua]

Oh my God.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm like, why? Still got it on.

[Manny Emua]

So what's his name?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, but they. They told me.

[Manny Emua]

It's crazy.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It was not only he told me, I would have found out anyways.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Because somebody from their group that is close to somebody else told me. You know what I mean? You can't hook up with somebody and then not expect nobody else to know.

[Manny Emua]

Also LA garden scene, I just like, my God. So imagine literally like LA gay scene. Plus like beauty creation. Like beauty.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Speaking of LA gay scene, one of the arguments that me and my ex had was he was. I saw him on Grindr. I didn't see him on Grindr. I don't have Grindr. One of my friends that lives close to him found him on Grindr, sent me a screenshot and I Waited for the right time to tell him because I wanted to tell him, like, in person or whatever. I told him his excuse was that he was looking for a sugar daddy. So.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, no.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And I still.

[Manny Emua]

The sugar daddy scene is even small too now.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And I still say.

[Manny Emua]

And you're still saying.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's the sad part is I still say, and he was on Grindr looking for sugar daddies.

[Manny Emua]

You need money.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm embarrassed.

[Manny Emua]

You're thinking like, well, finally you need some money. Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And I literally told him whenever you're just telling me that I was my.

[Manny Emua]

Finally you get a job.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes. Really? No literal response to telling me that was like, get your back bag. Literally, get your bag, get your bag. I was like, get your bag. I mean, as long as you're not doing anything sexual, right? Like, talk to her. I'm such a supportive, supportive partner.

[Laura Lee]

You give them an inch and they take them all they do.

[Manny Emua]

And like, girl, that whole. That whole situation is just like, absolutely horrific. I'm so sorry. You deal with it. But really, it's like now you have these life lessons that you have literally just learned sadly in a public eye. But it's something that you will take with you, like, honestly forever.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But it's also something that we prepare for as, like, influencers. I feel like, you know, it's gonna happen. So it's like. And this isn't the one and only time, like, I know it's gonna might happen again, you know, I mean, so.

[Manny Emua]

It'S just like now you just have tools like, yeah, and help your peace, your peace of mind, everything that can, you know, affect your world, which is really, really nice to have that post these situations, post friendships when I've, you know, you know, had issues with really close friends and. But every time that it's happened to me where it was like a really close friends, almost best friend, I've taken something from that where I was like, damn, this is where I could have also been better in a certain way. Or this is where they up heavily and I'll never let that happen in my life again. So it's like it really. You take. You take what you can.

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[Manny Emua]

From it.

[Laura Lee]

Did you move here from Texas?

[Dallas Mendoza]

No, I moved here. I lived in California.

[Laura Lee]

I didn't know that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Why did I think best friend? Oh, she must have had a few conversations with me. It's so funny because I saw this comment.

[Manny Emua]

How y'all doing?

[Dallas Mendoza]

You guys just pull out another mic. It's like holding it up just in case. Yeah, no, and the funny thing is I thought during this whole drama, the Twinkledon.

[Manny Emua]

I literally said Twingate. Did I not say Twinkle Gator?

[Laura Lee]

That was the twinkle Gayden.

[Manny Emua]

But you're sick.

[Dallas Mendoza]

The whole drama.

[Manny Emua]

You're literally sick. You're actually sick.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But while this drama show is going down, I saw so many comments being like, the thing is, I know if Dallas is an influencer, he would not be, like, keeping it cute like posts. It's so true. I want I. When I was, like, way younger, but I'm so down.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm like the type of person where it's like, I will hold my ground. I don't care if I'm gonna, like.

[Manny Emua]

I'm down as hell.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I don't care if I'm gonna lose a fight. I will fight. I don't care. I'm not. You're not gonna catch me looking stupid or, like, saying no to a fight. However, if it is a fight, that's like, just for no shits and giggles. No, no, you're not gonna have this.

[Manny Emua]

No, no, no.

[Dallas Mendoza]

For sure. Something like this. I don't care if you're, like, way bigger than me. Whatever. It's like.

[Manny Emua]

But like, for example, he slaps you, you're going down. Like you're fucking battling.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Glasses everywhere. Like, boom.

[Laura Lee]

Like, your ex best friend live in LA or moved.

[Dallas Mendoza]

He lives in la. Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Okay. Just wondering. Just curious. You probably never see him out, though.

[Manny Emua]

Do you go out? I was like, do you go out?

[Dallas Mendoza]

I don't go out anymore.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

We did, like, obviously, like, see each other a few times after that, but.

[Manny Emua]

It'S just like, you just ignore.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's just an ignoring game.

[Manny Emua]

Totally, but.

[Laura Lee]

Right.

[Manny Emua]

I've been in that, sister. Yeah, maybe I have been. Just. We just. Just pretend. You're not even there.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You're not even there.

[Laura Lee]

I hate that, though. It sucks. It sucks. I mean, I think everybody who's been an influencer in LA has had to play the ignoring game with someone that they're not currently talking to or getting along with. And it's kind of annoying because it's like a new. It's not a nuisance in the room, but it's kind of just like an elephant. It's an elephant energy there and it sucks. And, like, I've had to do it. Man's had to do it. And anyone I've ever talked to has had to do it. So I get that. And it just. It's. It's annoying.

[Manny Emua]

It's shitty.

[Laura Lee]

It's shitty.

[Manny Emua]

It's funny because I was actually. We were gonna ask you like. Like, if that situation happened because of TikTok or it was happening before, but it's crazy to find out. Like, it had happened a whole month before. And it wasn't TikTok that literally, like, activated or sparked this situation. It was already happening.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Oh, yeah. And you had said that if we talked at all. So another funny thing is we didn't talk at all. Like, I said the month and it wasn't until the drama started going down. Oh, that. Of course, I got messages, this and that. Paragraphs. I blocked and ignored all of it.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, good.

[Manny Emua]

I mean, I literally blocked and ignored.

[Laura Lee]

I was like, done, done.

[Manny Emua]

And you had a whole month.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I will say. Yeah, yeah. Literally a whole month. And there's also. There was other drama brought into it that had to do with, like, the girl and, like, this party and their whole reasoning between what. But the whole reasoning behind why they stopped being friends with me was because of a video I did on a party. But it's like. Yeah, so that.

[Manny Emua]

But there's probably a lot more.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, no, there's a lot more to it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Only that. There's a lot more of that. So they made videos, obviously being like, oh, we stopped being friends with him because of this. And he didn't apologize. I apologized. Like, I don't know if it was that night or the next morning, but I did apologize and I sent directly to her an apology. It was her birthday. I sent it directly to her. They didn't post that apology. I posted. You know what they did? They screenshotted an apology that I sent to my ex best friend, who it was. It was still an apology that he did not deserve. But I will say it was a pettier apology. Of course. Ho. Like, I know what's going on between you and, like, my ex. And of course I'm being petty, even though I'm still apologizing. Whatever. However, hers was very genuine and I did apologize to her.

[Laura Lee]

They didn't post it.

[Manny Emua]

They posted.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They both share the apology of his. And it's like, girl, post the apology I sent you and post how you literally said that it's okay.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And now you understand.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And you thanked me for coming straight towards you. And you thanked me for apologizing right away and taking the video down and all that.

[Laura Lee]

And now.

[Manny Emua]

But that didn't happen.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I know. It's very much just like, it was clearly that they just wanted, like, attention and drama and wanted to paint me as this person. But it's like, that's why I didn't make a video.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I will say that is why I didn't make a video. Because, like, if I make a video.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Manny Emua]

I'm coming at it with full force.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm posting every single receipt that I have down to, like, the messages. When me and my ex. Down between the message that. Because he did send me the DMs that they had between each other a long time. Yeah. Like, down to everything. And I didn't want to do it because I know they would have gotten 10 times more hate than what they did get.

[Laura Lee]

Wow.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So I was like, I'm going to just be quiet and just let it.

[Laura Lee]

I was wondering if you responded or did I miss your response or. I don't think you had to.

[Manny Emua]

I really don't think so either. I think the public understood exactly what was happening.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

There's like a few girls that are not girls girls. But most of them were girls girls. And a lot of them agreed with me and they was just like, doesn't matter. I don't care. All I need to know was that he was your ex. He was your ex. Best friend. Exactly. All I need to know.

[Manny Emua]

That's all you need to know.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's all you know.

[Manny Emua]

It's the absolute truth.

[Laura Lee]

Kind of like what I'm looking at in the situation here. All the little nuances don't matter.

[Dallas Mendoza]

People's mindset.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

How they work. And it's like, I want to be careful with that.

[Manny Emua]

No. And you know, it's so funny. Even, like, let's say like, Lauren, Tyler have, like a mini battle. But it's not anything crazy. I'm always like, like, Laura, he's the worst. Even, like, let's say Tyler is like, he could be right in a situation, whatever.

[Laura Lee]

And I'm like, those are what best friends are for.

[Manny Emua]

That.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

You know, it's like that. But that's literally, like, that's the kind of best thing you need. That's the friend you need. You need someone that's literally going to ride for you even when you're in the Wrong. They're still riding for you because it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Doesn'T ride for you. And I still have those best friends. My village girls.

[Manny Emua]

Exactly like you have those people.

[Laura Lee]

I had those people that for you. Well, let's backtrack a little. Now that we've aired out a lot. How'd you get started?

[Manny Emua]

No, we. How did you get started on Tik Tok? That's our first question, Jerry.

[Laura Lee]

Rs like, B. I don't want to hear.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But I started.

[Laura Lee]

Well, what a lame.

[Manny Emua]

What a great intro.

[Dallas Mendoza]

We should have started with that.

[Manny Emua]

It was too fierce.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Now that we got that out of that the way on.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

How did I start? I've always been making videos, at least since middle school. Like, I was, you know, making my little YouTube videos. Yeah, on YouTube.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah, same.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes, on YouTube. But I was in middle school, okay? I was young. It was like, school vlogs, stupid videos. There's even, like, two videos out there, me and my brother, very young on YouTube. It's, like, very, like, buried. But, like, I was always, like, into content, and I always knew I wanted to do, like, some sort of, like, content creator, something like that. And then I guess I really started taking it seriously. Like, makeup started my freshman year of high school. I got into makeup, and I was really, like, I was loving it. And then I started posting.

[Laura Lee]

Did you wear makeup to school or no concealer?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, no heavy anything. My reason behind it was people didn't deserve to see my makeup.

[Laura Lee]

Amen.

[Dallas Mendoza]

There we go. They didn't deserve to see it and only, like, the events deserve to see. Even now, to this day, I only do a full beat when it's something sickening.

[Laura Lee]

Correct, girl.

[Manny Emua]

That is the. The only time.

[Laura Lee]

Correct.

[Manny Emua]

And that's also that we feel the.

[Laura Lee]

Exact policy that's literally been our policy.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So if I'm wearing a full glam and you're like, oh, we haven't seen this dows in a minute. That's because at least you'll see it online. Of course. But, like, in person, if I'm gonna go out like that, it's because it's a sticky.

[Laura Lee]

Exactly.

[Manny Emua]

Like, if I know there's gonna be getty there, I have to go in a car. You're not gonna clock me. I have my whole Getty routine.

[Dallas Mendoza]

My.

[Manny Emua]

Photographer makeup, down, my Getty routine. I know what I'm doing. But unless it's something like that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No, you won't get that. But that's how it was. Like, I wasn't. I wouldn't wear makeup to school, but I Would start doing like Instagram. I wasn't doing YouTube, but I was doing like Instagram. Like, you know, people. It was during that era that people would make like the cute little videos, transitions, all that on Instagram. You know, there was like those few that still do it to this day. Yeah, wasn't.

[Manny Emua]

That was a shade. I'm like, he's like the people that do like tutorials.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No, but I was doing that. And then it's so funny because my mom would always want me to do YouTube. She's like, do you two do YouTube? Like, and I would like, no. It'll come at the right time. I'll do it. You know, I mean, I was like, let me build this following first. Cuz. Yeah, I was not gonna lie. I was trying to take the easier.

[Manny Emua]

Route, which is really hard.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You had to edit a lot. And I let me take the easy route. Thank God for Tik Tok. Because then Tik Tok came. I started posting all the time and I started reading.

[Laura Lee]

What year do you feel like you like kind of blew up or was like your moment?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Oh, definitely my senior year blew up. Junior year I started. I want to say 19.

[Manny Emua]

No, 20.

[Dallas Mendoza]

20. 20, 20, 19. 2022.

[Manny Emua]

2022.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Cuz I graduated in 2023.

[Laura Lee]

CO. Damn. Are you like 15?

[Dallas Mendoza]

I think. Right, right.

[Laura Lee]

God, you're so.

[Manny Emua]

How old are you?

[Dallas Mendoza]

19.

[Manny Emua]

You're 19.

[Laura Lee]

You're 19.

[Manny Emua]

I thought he was 21 this whole time. Dallas, I'm gagged. You just gagged me.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was like this. You're like, get out.

[Laura Lee]

This been a great episode.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I wonder.

[Laura Lee]

Your lashes look like that.

[Manny Emua]

You're 19 years old.

[Dallas Mendoza]

He's not the waist trainers. He's just young.

[Manny Emua]

He's just sick.

[Laura Lee]

I would say for a 19 year old, you've handled all this with so much grace. Because, honey, I would have these lined up.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I almost did. I'm not gonna lie.

[Manny Emua]

No, so then you started.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So 2022 was popping off.

[Manny Emua]

Got it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And I want to say it was right after. What's it called? Covid.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Right after Covid. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

Right at the like. Yeah. The brink of the end.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So it really. Right after like the shift, right?

[Manny Emua]

Yes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No, the way I started. Right at the shift.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Where it was like, no more sounds, no more dancing. Shut the up and talk to the camera.

[Laura Lee]

YouTubers were like, yo.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like back then to get all these. That YouTube like used to actually talk and be like, we're back. Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Because when the dances were going, babe, we couldn't.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And I love that, bro. I hated the sounds.

[Laura Lee]

We are talkers.

[Dallas Mendoza]

We are. I'm a talker. Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's why it was like, it's my turn. Let me come in.

[Manny Emua]

We're yappers, babe.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Florence Y.

[Manny Emua]

All three of us Yappers.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And so that's whenever I started to really blow up. It was like towards the end of my senior, I think I hit a million followers in February. January, February, March, April, May, graduate in June. Yeah. So a million followers in February manifested three followers by the time I graduated. Because I wanted3.3 million followers before I graduated.

[Laura Lee]

That's so cool.

[Manny Emua]

That's so cool.

[Laura Lee]

How do you feel about the tick tock ban?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Oh, yeah.

[Manny Emua]

The potential.

[Laura Lee]

The potential 19th. But they already appealed it, so apparently that puts a 90 day.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They already appealed it.

[Laura Lee]

They've already appealed it makes. Where nothing can happen until March. Now it's like agreeing to hear it out.

[Manny Emua]

Well, the court. The court has to agree. I don't think the court has agreed yet.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They still haven't agreed.

[Manny Emua]

They haven't to appeal. Right.

[Laura Lee]

Okay. I thought they agreed to it. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

I don't know peeled it. But they definitely need to confirm us to be like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes. They have to confirm the last thing like that. I. I don't know nothing about that. But all I know is that they have to confirm.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Whether yes or not. They want to hear them out.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

If they do, this could go on for more months. Great years even.

[Manny Emua]

I'm like, please hear them out.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But if they don't, they're like, it's a gun gone.

[Manny Emua]

Unless they. And they divest or whatever it's called.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I will say do have a plan. I don't mind doing. Really sick. Me.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Honestly, I can go back to Tilly.

[Laura Lee]

It would be way less stressful.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I don't know.

[Laura Lee]

It might not be less stressful. I don't know. Those waiters are so nice in Chili's. They seem like they love their job.

[Manny Emua]

I'm not going to l people.

[Laura Lee]

They're the sweetest. Like they are so happy there. So honestly, that might be.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was.

[Manny Emua]

I was happy being a waiter when I was a waiter.

[Laura Lee]

I know.

[Manny Emua]

I loved it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I liked working at McDonald's. McDonald's.

[Laura Lee]

Did you work at McDonald's? I think that was my first job.

[Dallas Mendoza]

When I was like 15 or 16 or whatever.

[Laura Lee]

That's really cool that you worked before you did social media.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah, I know. And that's like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I will say I only worked at McDonald's for a month. As soon as that screamed at me, I Was out of that hoe. I was like, you're not gonna get me. You're not streaming just because I'm talking while I'm doing my job again. We're yapper.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah. Of course.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was sickening. I was getting the job done, but just because I was.

[Laura Lee]

You were 16 years old, babes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. They, like, yelled at me and I.

[Laura Lee]

Was like, you're a 16 year old? Yeah. For. What do they think? I'm sorry, we gotta.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And it was like this old lady. I'm like, girl, oh, yeah.

[Manny Emua]

Not me.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, yeah. What did you do at McDonald's? What was your job?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Originally, they put me to, like, work the Friars and stuff like that.

[Laura Lee]

But I was like, that's what I would want, sweetheart.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm a lady. I cannot be.

[Manny Emua]

I can't be bothered by ladies.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But yeah. Oh, you would want to do that.

[Laura Lee]

I would want to do that. Yeah. I'm like, let me do this. I ain't trying because all these crazy people in here.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm a yapper and I could deal with the crazy people. And that's why I liked it. I was like, I want to deal with the. Karen put me out in the field.

[Manny Emua]

Yes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I asked them and they put me out in the field.

[Laura Lee]

And did you like that better?

[Dallas Mendoza]

I liked it. It was. I'm. I have adhd, so I'm very, like, here.

[Manny Emua]

There.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's why I was late today, by the way.

[Laura Lee]

Five minutes late. You have no idea what late is.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was five minutes late.

[Laura Lee]

Barely.

[Dallas Mendoza]

My team lied to me then about the time.

[Manny Emua]

Why?

[Dallas Mendoza]

They know me by now.

[Laura Lee]

They said 12:30.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They said 12.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, no, they didn't.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They told me 12.

[Laura Lee]

12. They're smart. I love you.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Oh, my God. I'm gonna get there. It was already like 12, and I was barely leaving my house. I was farther away. I was gonna be 30, like, 40 minutes late.

[Laura Lee]

We're like, you're five minutes late? You're like, what are you talking about? I was an hour late.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, they know you down.

[Laura Lee]

They know you don't.

[Manny Emua]

I would have been like, on my.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Calendar, I had to leave my house at 11, and I had to be there at 12.

[Laura Lee]

Wow.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, my God.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Honestly, thank God they know me by now. They know you by now. And the funny thing is, I told my assistant, who is also my best friend, she, like, does. She lives. Still lives in my village. She does everything mobile. But I told her, I was like, I didn't wake up at 8am I don't care if that's four hours like early. I know I'm gonna get sidetracked. I did get sidetracked, right? I had the whole video before I came here. You know what I mean? So anyways, yeah, back to McDonald's. I loved working there because of the ADHD. It was like talking to a hoe here, typing it here. Oh, they need me to do the fries. I was here. It was so fun to me. It was like a video game.

[Manny Emua]

That's how I feel. Like I was like good at waiting because of the adhd.

[Laura Lee]

I love waiting because I was like things I. I think I have adhd. If you watch our podcast episodes and sped up. Manny's like this throughout the episode and I'm like this.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Watch.

[Laura Lee]

I'm sped up. You literally. I never sit still for one second. It's like constant movement. I can't help it. I can't sit still. But I loved. I was a waiter at cheaper Chee Burger for a long time. And I would always people up, I would, I would forget. Like, I just could never, like, I was always like. I loved it, it so much cuz so fast paced. Like dealing people, talking people getting this, this and that. But I'd be like, someone asked for something like at 3:00 in the morning, I'd be like, oh, I forgot to get that. People for cursing ketchup.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Oh my God.

[Laura Lee]

That would happen to me all the time there.

[Manny Emua]

The good thing about like wait, like when you are waiting. Like the time flies when you're a waiter, when you're busy. When you're busy like that.

[Laura Lee]

Unless it's dead.

[Manny Emua]

Unless it's dead. It's like, Jesus Christ. When it's popping, you're maybe the eight hour shift turns into two. Like it's actually that's how I was.

[Dallas Mendoza]

At McDonald's versus like Tilly's, which was like my second job after that. Oh, you worked at Tilly's. That one was way slower. No one will be going to Tilly's closing shifts. Oh my God. And the thing is, I was young, I had school, so I would always have a closing shift. Always.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah, it's like so monotonous.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It was horrible. Like I hated it. Like cleaning up after everybody's mess. It was like, oh my God, the piles of clothes that I had to fold. It wasn't. I hated it. That's the reason I quit.

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[Manny Emua]

Would you do if Tik Tok were to get Man.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. What are you thinking?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Well, what I'm thinking is like YouTube.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, totally.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Sure. One, two videos a week or whatever. Because the reason I can't do YouTube a lot now is because I do TikTok. I aim to do three videos a day on TikTok.

[Laura Lee]

Good God Almighty.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So that's the reason. Three, two videos sometimes, you know, I mean if I weren't doing that because Tick Tock isn't around, I could put my main focus.

[Manny Emua]

You would be able to do it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And I feel like there'll even be better, better quality videos. Cuz it's like I can just focus on one or two videos throughout the week and put my whole into it. Yeah. All I have to do. I don't even have to edit my ticks on. All I have to do is just like do the editor. The editor can do it for me and Exactly. We all here and there. Why not Instagram posts still and I don't know, just I guess still working on things.

[Laura Lee]

I think they'll come out with an American version of Tick Tock if they don't have to regrow our accounts. I do. I'm so honest. I think that's. I don't think YouTube's gonna blow back up. I don't think Instagram's gonna blow. I think they're gonna make a new.

[Dallas Mendoza]

We're all gonna have. I wouldn't want to do it, but I know if I want to do it.

[Laura Lee]

Douche. You're 19. You know how much time you have.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I wouldn't worry because I wouldn't want to restart, but I know I have to because I need do one. Like we need to be the first people to get.

[Manny Emua]

Absolutely.

[Laura Lee]

Exactly, exactly.

[Manny Emua]

No, it was like I was like no one. Obviously we've been YouTubers.

[Laura Lee]

That's what happened to us.

[Manny Emua]

We were like, we gotta do this whole new.

[Laura Lee]

We gotta regrow.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm sure you guys are even like kind of late a little bit because you're like this. We're not doing that. We'll stick to YouTube.

[Laura Lee]

I was so late because of the dancing.

[Manny Emua]

Yes, yes.

[Laura Lee]

Like this like beauty reviews and like what I was doing on YouTube was I done on TikTok.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So lucky. Oh my God.

[Manny Emua]

To be literally like ground zero and.

[Dallas Mendoza]

To just pop your.

[Laura Lee]

On your.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And then like go from one to like a thousand.

[Manny Emua]

That's crazy.

[Laura Lee]

You lucky seven. A hundred thousand it's not like that. And we've even talked to Tick Tock. They don't. They basically. They didn't realize how they're out. They had to slow down the growth because what was happening is like we had.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I noticed that without even having to talk to them that their growth was like uncontrollable.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, uncontrollable.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They didn't even know their own algorithm.

[Laura Lee]

Exactly, Exactly.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Now they have it more.

[Laura Lee]

They had to get it under control.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. They didn't even know. And that's. That's why. Oh, 150 million followers. Like that's.

[Laura Lee]

And then the views and all don't start to add up.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, they had no control.

[Laura Lee]

They had no control.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No.

[Manny Emua]

They are lucky because now it's like they actually just published it that they literally will slow down your views if you're. If you're popping off to it.

[Laura Lee]

They publish this in public records. So what do they call it, Manny? They. To spread out the views. So if you have a bunch of videos that pop off fiercely, they're going to like prorate your views down for your next videos because they're. This is public knowledge, you guys.

[Dallas Mendoza]

My cat video I did each got millions of views following 100, 000 views, 100,000 views on my other videos. And I'm just like, what?

[Laura Lee]

Yes. It's not you. It's not. So you're allotted a certain amount of views. Probably. I don't know.

[Manny Emua]

We don't know. We don't know.

[Laura Lee]

But that's definitely like a month you're allotted. And once you've burned up those views, let's say you got a couple videos that popped off well, now you're gonna have crumbs left that they're gonna share.

[Manny Emua]

I know.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. But let's say you don't hit your core views that month. Your views are a little lower. Nothing pops off really that big. They'll go back and gr. Old videos, if you've noticed, maybe an old.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I noticed that too. And it starts popping off and I suddenly will see, like followers start coming in a lot. And I go to my videos and I'm like, none of these videos are getting views. Where are they coming from? It's one of my old chances are.

[Laura Lee]

You didn't hit your view ratio. So they're going to give you a couple more views. Sprinkle some more in. So it's not you. Tik Tok is public knowledge.

[Manny Emua]

It's literally. They just. Literally. And I literally just found this out like a week ago. I Was like. And it's funny because we have, like, already talked about this and we literally had a. This conspiracy theory that we're like, why is it like, when I get a video that pops off, like, I just did one, I got 3 million views. The next video got 50,000 views.

[Laura Lee]

And I'm like, yeah, me and Manny have figured this out a long time ago because we've been you. Our views are just so inconsistent. Like, if we had something that hit 3 to 5 million, then all of a sudden we're out of the 100,000 range. We're in 50 to 70 views, you know?

[Dallas Mendoza]

And the thing is, okay, no wonder I'm like, not tripping, because I'll go to other people's, like, famous people that have even more followers me, like, and I'll check their shit. And it's like the same thing. What is going on?

[Laura Lee]

There's a lot people that private their lower view videos.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I noticed that too.

[Laura Lee]

So don't get fooled. When you go to people's account and all views are in the millions, just.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So they could have all the millions there. I don't care enough to do that. I keep them up.

[Laura Lee]

I worked on the content.

[Manny Emua]

I didn't work on it.

[Laura Lee]

I'm leaving it.

[Manny Emua]

Unless it's three, 2,000 views, I'm like, okay.

[Laura Lee]

Sometimes they do shadow ban.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah. And I've been shadow banned multiple times.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And also it's like, you never know, somebody might see one of your videos that do pop off. They like you. They want to go through all your other videos. So it's like, keep it up, you know, why not? Absolutely.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Emua]

And just different aspects of your.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was thinking about, like, how there's like, like this whole, like, whatever, like, in the content world, it's like, it's like hard to be an influencer. Then it gets easy and it gets hard. Like, I feel like it was hard during whenever you guys were, like, YouTube days. It's a lot of work put into it. Then it got easy during 2020. Dancing bitch. Like, that's it, you're famous.

[Manny Emua]

Literally.

[Laura Lee]

And then it's hard again.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's. Now it's hard again. Not only because of the algorithm, because there's so many people wanting to be an influencer. It's like a battle.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Literally. It's literally like war out here.

[Laura Lee]

Is that why you guys upload? I'm gonna admit the OG youtubers got lucky just because there were fewer influencers, so we had more eyes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I see a lot of. Yeah, that's who I will Say now. So that's another thing that I want to talk about is that there was so, like, it was almost like a group, like, these are the only beauty influencers that are doing beauty. And it's just like, what, 10 people?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Now with all, like the new beauty, like hundreds. The brands.

[Laura Lee]

Hundreds people can have 3 million followers. And I'll be like, I've never seen it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I've never seen my life.

[Manny Emua]

No. Do you want brands say too? Which I think is so crazy. What a hundred thousand followers on YouTube equates 1 million followers on Tick Tock.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Makes sense.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. And I'm like, that's how they make sense.

[Manny Emua]

It, like actually does.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Or like 100,000 views.

[Manny Emua]

I was like, 100,000 views on YouTube would equate 1 million views on TikTok.

[Laura Lee]

Like, they did a survey for TikTokers and they asked them, would you rather have a million views on TikTok or a hundred thousand on YouTube? And they all said, oh, 100,000 on YouTube. It's exactly what they all said.

[Manny Emua]

But you would. And you would never think that. That from like an audience watching or like people. But you. That's literally.

[Laura Lee]

But people know the value also.

[Dallas Mendoza]

What? Yeah, the value, literally. I don't know what it is about the energy in YouTube, but when people follow you on YouTube, they also follow you on Instagram.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They will follow you on everything else. When people follow you on Tik Tok, they'll stay with you on Tick Tock.

[Laura Lee]

And that's.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It'll be hard as to get them to go over to the side. And the ones that do go over, they have to really with you because.

[Manny Emua]

They'Re obsessed with you.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They're obsessed with you. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

No. 100, like, you have like, I feel like YouTube is that core.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Is that core?

[Manny Emua]

It's that core audience. And like, because again, there was such a little amount of us back then and it was easier for us to grow because there was not that many.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

Like now, boys and beauty.

[Dallas Mendoza]

There wasn't that many. You had your slime girls, your DIY girls. You had your. And there was probably like 10 people in each category.

[Manny Emua]

Yes, exactly. And like now, like, I even like me back then, I was like, boys and beauty. That wasn't a thing. Like, obviously, like, me and Patrick were like, ground zero. And now I'm like, oh, my God, there's so many boys. Like, this is sickening.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So you think. And there's really not a lot of boys right now.

[Manny Emua]

Well, not popping.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Not popping.

[Manny Emua]

Okay, but there's not A lot of boys in general.

[Laura Lee]

A lot of boys trying.

[Dallas Mendoza]

There's a lot of boys trying, but.

[Manny Emua]

There'S a lot of trying.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I was talking about this to my manager, and I was saying how, like, all the girls, the new girls, they get so many opportunities. Oh, Dallas.

[Manny Emua]

I was just thinking about this.

[Dallas Mendoza]

There's so many new girls. They will have the same amount of followers as me, if not less. And the opportunities they get, it is, like, insane. And it's like, I have, like, 3 million more followers.

[Laura Lee]

Because you're in Beauty.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's because I'm a boy.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, no. A boy for sure. But do you feel like. Like, if you were a gay boy in a different industry, maybe like, in an acting one?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Equal out more because I'm a gay boy. They're catering. They're start there.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

I mean, he got cut out of everything in the beginning, truly, like, because I was a girl on Beauty as a boy and Beauty were coming at the same time. There's so many beauty brands that would not even work with him. Just like, yeah, he's a boy.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes. And, yeah, there's nobody new that's, like, bored. But not only that, it's like, they want the girls. I don't know why. Again, I just feel like it's like, almost like an internal homophobia coming back. Because I told my manager, I was like, around this time that all these boys were popping off. It was also around the time of it. It was like an era where, like, gay was fun, gay was like, yes, it was cool to be gay. Right. We're past that era. Gays everywhere. Nobody gives a. So that's why they don't care about me anymore. And like I said, it goes back to, like, the internal homophobia. I don't want to blame it on that totally. But it's like, well, look at these Brad trips. There's not one boy on there, Laura.

[Manny Emua]

Okay, this is the way the reason I just reacted like that is because I almost just made a video and I didn't. And I. And I held back because I was like, I don't want to be in drama like that. I don't want to be like that. I don't make crazy.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

I almost screen grabbed. I'm gonna be honest with it, because it's the podcast. I don't give a. I almost screamed, grabbed one of the branches. That just happened. Not a single boy. And I almost was like, why are the boys involved? Like, why? Back when I was starting, what happened to actually being inclusive when it comes to, you know, races and genders and actually being inclusive when it came to all aspects of inclusivity. And I was going to say, at least invite D. Look how popping he is. Look how popping he is.

[Laura Lee]

There's no excuse.

[Manny Emua]

And I. And I was like, you know what? Maybe I shouldn't do that. Maybe I shouldn't be, like, so. Like that and so vocal. I mind you, I've been, like, triggered from my drama back in the past. So I do give and take a little bit with what I do and what I want to say, and I don't want to be too, like, you know, too dramatic, but it's something I've actually been thinking about for months now, because now that the new wave of brand trips have been happening, no boys are actually excluded.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And they're not one. It's a plus one. And they're not even a big influencer. They're just a plus one.

[Laura Lee]

And it doesn't get this so account.

[Manny Emua]

Recently, there's a branch and this girl actually talked about it, and she blew it the up on this. This brand. There's a branch that happened. Right. She was a. She's like, I don't want to go on the trip. There's not gonna be POC people there.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

She talked about it publicly. Yeah. People, colors. There's like a PFC that I don't want to go. She actually took a spot of a boy because they had. He had pulled out of the trip. There was 50 influencers invited. One boy, he pulled out she. And then they were placing her. Him with a girl. So then end up being a 50 girl, girl, 50 white girl influencer trip only. So it's like. It's because they're wild. They're honestly wild.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's crazy.

[Manny Emua]

So it's gotten to this point where it's almost regressed and they're not actually being as inclusive because I'm like, you know what? That's.

[Laura Lee]

Don't.

[Dallas Mendoza]

We're going back in time.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. Well, as Dallas was saying, you're like, at first you see the boy in beauty, and it's cool and it's hot and it's fun and it's cute and it's popular and you get attention for it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So now you're not. Because there's more boys in beauty, and it is a little more normalized. So now, because you're not getting. Getting the grab and the attention you.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Want, excluding the boys and beauty, it's just normalized now.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. So now they're included.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I think it was My manager, he was like, what other male influencer is like. Or boy influencers popping off the way I have popped off besides any of those boys.

[Manny Emua]

No.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

There's.

[Manny Emua]

No, there's not. The thing is. And that's why I almost made the video to talk about it, because I was like, at least like, listen, yo, I'm an og. Like, I don't mind not being a body. Like, that's totally cool. I've been doing this for so long. I've been all the chips. I've been around the literal world world. But, like, at least someone who is currently blowing up as a boy having visibility for men in makeup. I think it's a really, really cool thing. And it's something I've been fighting for literally 11 years. So to see that happen, that is why I wanted to talk about it. Because I'm, like, not inviting him because I was actually gonna text you and be like, do you get invited on these trips?

[Dallas Mendoza]

There's. There's only one trip. One trip that I said no to. It was one in Mexico. I don't know if it was with Tar or Kosis. I think it was closest. I think that's the one. Only one I said no to because I interviewed Feud with. With plants I already had. That's the one that I got invited to that I didn't go to. And honestly, I should have gone. It was like, all the sickening girls. It was like Michaela. It was like Katie Fang. Yeah. I think me and Monet was there. So, like, I was like, I should have gone. But. So I guess there's that one. But it's like, out of the many that there is, and it's like, I don't even care if you don't invite me. Invite.

[Manny Emua]

That's how I feel.

[Dallas Mendoza]

One boy that constantly does beauty, like, content online, and they don't really know.

[Manny Emua]

And I look and I'm always like, okay, well, maybe you, like, don't invite Louis Louie. Yeah, maybe they'll invite Dallas. I mean, they'll invite.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

Spencer.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

You know, like, they'll invite a boy. There's so. There is a lot. But they're not, like. The problem is that they're not at, like, the biggest level.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, but they're inviting people at all levels. A lot of trips. A lot of trips invite else. It's still not an excuse.

[Manny Emua]

It's not. And the thing is, boys are not getting. And I'm literally kind of being like, I'm.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's girls of every level. It's like, you could easily invite a boy of this level. They don't.

[Laura Lee]

They're there. They're there.

[Manny Emua]

So I'm kind of like, well, why is it almost regressed? Cuz back in the day, I would say, like, me and Patrick would get invited to, like, the majority of the trips. Like, almost all. Almost all of them. We would be invited to them all. Even back then, though, like, there was not a lot of other boys getting invited to things. And it felt almost like we were like the token gays in a way, of the beauty community. And like, listen, we. We rode the token gay thing into what it is. Like, hell yeah. We. We came on the other end. But it's funny looking back where you're kind of like, we were like the token gays. And then, you know, we helped men and makeup be a thing. But then now it feels like we got to this point. Now it's like this.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah. It's only brand trips. It's multiple things. There's a lot of opportunities that I'm like, I told my manager, I'm like, hey, this person.

[Manny Emua]

I would have loved to do this.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm like, I would have loved to done this. Like, you know, and then like, oh.

[Manny Emua]

I pitched you and.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, yeah.

[Manny Emua]

And it's a no, babe.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And it's just like. Like, I don't know, it's just weird.

[Laura Lee]

Well, if I did a brand trip, it would be only gay. And no one will be surprised either.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

That's so funny you say that. I really was like this for months.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's just like the energy kind of everywhere, as I noticed, like, everywhere.

[Manny Emua]

Look at the transphobia right now.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Premiere.

[Manny Emua]

Bad transphobia.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's literally like, what, the transphobia right now? Exactly.

[Manny Emua]

Look at, like, I. I love that. So Jackie A made a video about, like, transphobia.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

And she made this video and it was amazing. And I loved it so much. And it was so. She was so profound saying what she said about how, like, it was cool to make sure that people didn't like to hate trans people. It was. We as a society were like, don't hate trans people.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

And that was what it was. And now it's literally kind of swung to the opposite end of the pendulum. And it feels like that with all aspects of the LGBT community in general, where it's kind of like it's almost regressed so much in the last few years.

[Laura Lee]

And we live in a bubble here. And sometimes I get blindsided because I'm around gay friends.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

LA in general. It's a Bubble. It's literally a bubble.

[Manny Emua]

She wants guys around her only.

[Laura Lee]

Only, literally.

[Manny Emua]

She has gays only around her, literally.

[Laura Lee]

I don't know. So to me, I live in that bubble and I just think the world is so great and then, you know, you step outside the bubble or a piece of content gets shot outside.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's what you said. Because I like that. I went to my village for Thanksgiving and I went out while I was there, you know, freaking Blackout Wednesday or whatever before Thanksgiving.

[Manny Emua]

Oh yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And I was getting stirred at so much and this is like the first time that I've gone out, out, out of la. I was getting stared at so much and I literally, in the club, I was like, out loud. I'm like the. Am I a dinosaur? Why is everybody staring at me? Like literally, like staring at. I'm not. It wasn't even the girls. I understand why the girls are me. Like they probably know who I am. They were coming up to me, but the guys like staring. I'm just like, it's not that year.

[Laura Lee]

Are you living?

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm like, you guys, it's not that serious. I'm not a dinosaur. Like, like, you know, I'll calm down. And it took me out of like, oh my God, wait, you're not in LA anymore. I'm not in LA no more.

[Manny Emua]

No. And it's actually really crazy how we are in the fiercest little blue bubble here and I forget all the time and it's. And I can literally just go down even to Chula Vista, to San Diego where I'm from. And I, I don't feel comfortable glaming and being fully glam there. Like, I don't feel comfortable even like when I worked at Sephora and I worked in, at, in National City at Plaza Bon Mall and I'd walk through on my lunch break, I'd be like, I don't want to go get lunch. Because people would stare at me as I'm walking by. And I'm so uncomfortable because like guys would be like, what the. And I've been called all the slurs. I literally just called. Got called the slur A couple months ago, I was walking by and this guy in his car like, like screaming at me. And I'm literally like, I'm like, I'm.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Like, we don't really know, but it's literally.

[Manny Emua]

But it's funny cuz it's like the only reason I react like that now is because I've taken it back. Like we've taken like that where it's like I'm not going to let you, like, completely ruin my night. I'm going to be like, yeah, I've.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Honestly, like, reversed it in my brain. Call me that. Like, it's a compliment.

[Manny Emua]

Thank you.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It just gets you a little.

[Laura Lee]

Like, they call me that.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm like, yes, but like, call me that in bed.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah. Again, again. No, but like, it's.

[Laura Lee]

But it's.

[Manny Emua]

We've done that in our mind, but that's not what it's meant to be doing. They're actually trying to purposely make you feel like, absolutely. And I'm like, I always forget because I'm around love. Like, obviously I'm around people that love me and accept me. That ride for me. But then you walk out in LA.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And it's like, yes.

[Manny Emua]

And then it's actually like, oh, no.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They here in la. It's like, if there's at least here in this little bubble, if a girl's guy friend or a guy's talking, oh, my God. Will like go crazy on that.

[Manny Emua]

You know what I mean?

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's not cool to be homophobic here.

[Laura Lee]

No.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So.

[Manny Emua]

But see, why has it regressed online? That's the weird thing is that it was like that for a long time and it was. People were writing for.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yes.

[Manny Emua]

Writing for you and writing for your sexuality and writing for.

[Laura Lee]

It's like, guys. It wasn't a trend.

[Manny Emua]

It wasn't for me.

[Laura Lee]

It wasn't.

[Manny Emua]

It wasn't.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's literally what it was.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

That's.

[Laura Lee]

You're like, now that things have simmered down and it's gotten normalized, you're starting to see things for what they really are.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Not really like giving that much of a. About us anymore.

[Manny Emua]

So.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No.

[Manny Emua]

It's actually really frustrating and something I've like and I noticed a lot with trans women as well, and the hate that they get now, the vitriol is actually like, beyond.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

It literally was like a while. It was like, no, like, don't handle like, that's crazy. How'd you do that? And now it's gotten to this point where it's like, almost spiked all over again.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I almost think. I don't know what it is because they have got. They have been giving, like, trans women more opportunities.

[Manny Emua]

Yes. More flowers, for sure.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That's what's weird about it. It's like they're getting all this, but then behind the scenes, teens.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

It's. It. The thing is because they're becoming more public.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

So more people are seeing it and they don't want to See it a lot of the times, people in America, people around the world.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Oh, they don't want to get pissed off. They're, like, angry. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

So it's like, a lot of times trans people didn't have the visibility that they have now. So more visibility means more hatred.

[Dallas Mendoza]

And the sad part is, like, true a lot of the time. Well, not a lot of times, I'm sure, like, the bigger trans, like, people, like, get hatred, too, but it's like, it'll be the smaller, like, trans people that don't have a platform that'll get so.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, right. Ripped apart. And the thing is, what's really sad, too, is, like, the whole passableness of everything.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

That aspect of it.

[Laura Lee]

So.

[Manny Emua]

But it's sad that it's, like. It feels like it's gone back to that, but it's because of the visibility being so much more heightened because of social media that there's more hate now. It's just a sad reality.

[Laura Lee]

Girl, good for you for speaking.

[Manny Emua]

I'm so glad you talked about it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

I really am, because I was.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's literally something I've been thinking about for so long, and I'm just like, this whole, like, is on the red carpet. She only has this many followers, and it's like flashes everywhere, like, this opportunity there, this opportunity there.

[Laura Lee]

And it's like, you're talking about me.

[Dallas Mendoza]

By this. I mean, this is like.

[Manny Emua]

I'm like, this with our fight. No, it's.

[Laura Lee]

It's like I said, it's, like, totally me.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's like, I don't care if it's me.

[Laura Lee]

Just put somebody out there to give.

[Dallas Mendoza]

All these other gay people the representation. It's like, y'all.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm tired of carrying this weight on my back. I'm like. I'm, like, carrying all the tweaks behind me. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

No, it's true. It really. It does. It feels. It feels just crazy. And it's something I've noticed, too, and totally, I've been wanting to talk about.

[Laura Lee]

It, but interesting, because, like, you've come up in the newer day and age, so it's different. And you're like, okay, well, back when there was boy, it was like, this one beauty blue, this boy in beauty. And you're like, hold on, where are they at now? Also, where they at?

[Dallas Mendoza]

One thing about, like. Oh, I also wanted to mention on the podcast is, like, I'm friends with all the OGs. Oh, my God, you are funny. Right?

[Manny Emua]

You are.

[Dallas Mendoza]

There's so many new beauty influencers in my era in my timeline. But yeah, I'm friends with all the OGs only. And I only hang around.

[Laura Lee]

Like, really, dogs are just correct.

[Dallas Mendoza]

They're just correct.

[Manny Emua]

I mean, honestly, it's the truth.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It's probably because I feel like my content is, like, closest to, like, all the OG's content compared to, like, you know, the new girls.

[Manny Emua]

Well, it's funny because I see like, even, like, the. No, literally, and I see, like, the comments and it's like, oh, my God, this feels so nostalgic. It feels like 2017, 2018. And I'm like, oh, that's so nice. Like, that's. I feel like a big part too, of, like, raising up more creators because of the nostalgia, too.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

And it's nice. And I don't know, I think it's. I'm glad you talked about that. Like, I really am, because I've been wanting to talk about it. I just didn't know how to talk about it.

[Laura Lee]

Sometimes the right time and place just comes.

[Manny Emua]

It just comes. It just comes. So you literally just activated me. Now I'm over here, and now I'm going to shred every brand. I see trash pieces.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I'm going to make a bread. Why are we inviting more gay people to the. Imagine that my next video. No, that's going to be my next video.

[Manny Emua]

No, I'm Laura.

[Laura Lee]

Behind her are the games.

[Dallas Mendoza]

But that's the thing is, like, I'm not gonna make a scene either. It's like, that's why I don't want.

[Manny Emua]

To make a scene. I just want. I want to talk about it and made it make it be known that it's not. Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

I don't. I. The. You know what the issue is, too? I don't want to be just the only one shouting from the rooftops and it become like, oh, well, man, here we go. Is Manny. And the thing is, I've been in a lot of drama, so I'm always going to have, like, here we go. Manny's. Dramatic as Manny's.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I don't want to be that person.

[Manny Emua]

And I don't want to be known.

[Dallas Mendoza]

For getting invited somewhere because I complained that I didn't go. That is the last thing I want to.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

If I wasn't invited. Thank you. I won't be there when I won't even ever again.

[Laura Lee]

Ever again. But exactly.

[Manny Emua]

You don't want to be. You don't want to be pity invited.

[Dallas Mendoza]

No.

[Manny Emua]

So it's like, that's another thing. You don't want to. You don't want to do that for that reason. You want to do it because your work speaks for itself.

[Laura Lee]

Because what does it matter if you get invited after you bitched, you know what I mean? Or like when.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You'Re literally there, you're.

[Laura Lee]

Like, this, we want to get.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I know. You're like, Mr.

[Manny Emua]

Bright owner.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You're like.

[Manny Emua]

No, it's 40 girls in just D and everyone. All the girls are like, after this.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Video goes on anyway. No, I'm just like, no, me and.

[Manny Emua]

Laurie going to see you on a breadship.

[Laura Lee]

We're like the only boy.

[Manny Emua]

The only boy. Here we go. He's the only one.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You're like, I wonder how he got there from completing.

[Laura Lee]

And that's okay. Okay. Sometimes you have to make it known. I'm sorry. That's okay. You know what I mean? Like, I wouldn't even judge you for it. So I don't know. Sometimes whenever you're just speaking on these things, it you don't come across that you're just trying to get this all for you.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You. Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean? Of course. It's like a huge thing. You're trying to speak on it for everyone.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, exactly.

[Laura Lee]

And you would like the brands to organ. Like, you're like, I don't want to make content to get y'all to do this. Just do it. Like, just genuinely care about everyone and do it, you know?

[Manny Emua]

And it's like. It's funny because now we're in a world where more boys than ever wear makeup. So it is actually something that you can like positively promote as men. Like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah, yeah.

[Manny Emua]

You know, and like, do you remember the Maybelline situation that was happening with that boy that had a beard and they were using him as a. He was. He was doing a campaign and they put paid behind it. It was like doing liquics, but he had a full, full beard and full this. And it was just like a bearded man. He got shredded to absolute filth for it.

[Laura Lee]

Why? Because he was like masculine looking?

[Manny Emua]

No, no, he was. He wasn't like even really masculine looking. It was just because it was a man doing it. So it became this like whole ass. Another thing. And that was like, what? Last year? This year.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, my God.

[Manny Emua]

And I was like, how did this like completely like regress?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Even you low key kind of got shit for being covergirl.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah, I just got all over again. That got to the wrong side. Side.

[Laura Lee]

It was as soon as your content gets out of the bubble. Even me, because I film a lot of content with my gay friends. And sometimes pieces will go out into the world, and I'm like, oh, God.

[Manny Emua]

You're like, oh, that's how it is.

[Laura Lee]

I forget.

[Manny Emua]

I forget all the time. And, like, I'll be rudely reminded, rudely by the world that I'm like, oh.

[Dallas Mendoza]

It'S like a humbling.

[Manny Emua]

It really is. It's a very little fierce humbling.

[Laura Lee]

It absolutely is.

[Manny Emua]

But I'm. I'm glad you're able to talk about it, because it is something that's, like, really frustrating, to be honest.

[Laura Lee]

I have another question. What? Or maybe a last question. I don't know. What is something people will be surprised to know about you? What's something you do hobby that you.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Don'T talk about people? I didn't think they would be surprised, but I guess it's surprising that I play video games.

[Laura Lee]

I'm surprised. I'm surprised.

[Manny Emua]

I'm surprised. Yeah. I love video games.

[Laura Lee]

What are you playing?

[Dallas Mendoza]

Videos. Because I. I play, well, Fortnite, and then I've been playing the new game Marvel Rivals.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, I want to play Marvel Rivals. I want to play mar. Marvel Rivals.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I like Dead by Daylight. I just haven't played it because my friends don't have it or whatever. Minecraft occasionally a little dressed, Impressed. Yeah. But I've been, like, going live recently because I kind of want to, like, dabble into that world.

[Laura Lee]

You should.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I heard he's good.

[Manny Emua]

Yeah.

[Dallas Mendoza]

So I'm dabbling over there, and I'll be, like, gaming on live, and people were like, oh, my God, you game.

[Laura Lee]

That's so funny.

[Manny Emua]

I. I love that you game.

[Laura Lee]

Do you play Mario Kart Kart?

[Dallas Mendoza]

I. Please. I like Super Smash Bros. Oh. I like Super Smash Bros. And I like Super Mario Bros. Mario Kart's not. I need something more active and engaging. Super Mario Bros.

[Manny Emua]

I need a battle.

[Laura Lee]

In a weird way, I play Mario Kart.

[Manny Emua]

Like, battle.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Literally. I need a battle. I need to, like, battle.

[Laura Lee]

Go in.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

That's how I feel, too.

[Laura Lee]

Every night before I go to bed, I'll do, like.

[Manny Emua]

I also like Mario Party.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Mario Party.

[Manny Emua]

That one's, like, where it's, like. It's almost like a board game where it's like you're playing, like, on a board.

[Dallas Mendoza]

A bunch of mini games.

[Manny Emua]

Okay.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

So it's like a bunch of mini games. So it's like, at least there's, like, the battling aspect in that. But I'm the same where I was like, I want to, like, fight.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

On the game. Or I want to, like.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

I want to Go in.

[Laura Lee]

Get in there.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Get the rage out.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, girl.

[Manny Emua]

The amount of money I spend on my game Genshin Impact is beyond anything.

[Laura Lee]

Else you want to tell us here today.

[Manny Emua]

To else to. To leave these girlies with. Like, is there anything you want to.

[Laura Lee]

Well, come out, by the way.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Oh, this Friday. This will be posted a week after week after.

[Laura Lee]

But I mean, we'll link it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Go back.

[Manny Emua]

We'll link it.

[Dallas Mendoza]

You know, it's out now. Hopefully it's sold out by then. We all know the goal is to sell out, but. Yeah, really excited for that. I'm so excited. It's my first ever collab. I do have other coming in the future, but. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, my God. That's so exciting. I love it. I can't wait to hear about it when the cameras are on.

[Laura Lee]

Get it out before they delete.

[Manny Emua]

Literally.

[Dallas Mendoza]

That was liter right now. Yeah.

[Manny Emua]

This is the time to do it. Just in case. You never know.

[Laura Lee]

Seriously.

[Manny Emua]

Oh, I love. Thank you so much for coming.

[Dallas Mendoza]

We really thank you so much for having me. It was so much fun. I did.

[Manny Emua]

Okay, good, Good. It's a key. I always, like, say with the pot, like with us, like, I feel like people come in and they're like, I just said so much more than I thought I was gonna say.

[Dallas Mendoza]

I had way more fun than I thought I would. Yeah. I love.

[Manny Emua]

And that's exactly what we like to hear.

[Laura Lee]

And that's exactly what.

[Manny Emua]

But thank you guys so much for watching. We're leave, of course, all of Dallas's information down below. Check him out. Amazing creator. And we will catch you guys in our next episode.

[Laura Lee]

Bye, guys.

[Dallas Mendoza]

Bye.