David Dobrik’s Vlogging Cash Grab + Coldplay CEO Affair

Summary

Fool Coverage with Manny MUA and Laura Lee: Episode Summary

Episode Title: David Dobrik’s Vlogging Cash Grab + Coldplay CEO Affair
Release Date: July 25, 2025
Hosts: Manny MUA and Laura Lee
Podcast Platform: PodcastOne

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1. Introduction & Personal Updates [01:03 – 17:33]

Botox and Body Image Concerns

Manny and Laura begin the episode by candidly discussing their personal experiences with Botox, delving into the pressures of maintaining a flawless public image as social media influencers.

• Manny MUA: “I’m sick of the clouds. I think we paid.” [01:38]

• Laura Lee: “This is about my wicked forehead movement. It actually causes a little bit of body dysmorphia.” [01:03]

The conversation evolves into a light-hearted yet honest exchange about the challenges of managing wrinkles and the effectiveness of Botox. They explore differing opinions on preventative Botox, with Laura advocating for early intervention to prevent deep-set wrinkles, while Manny remains skeptical about its necessity before wrinkles appear.

• Laura Lee: “Preventative is like, get it before you get wrinkles. I think that's silly.” [06:02]

• Manny MUA: “Preventative is like, get it before you get wrinkles. Which I feel like that's silly.” [08:02]

The hosts also touch upon the emotional toll of constant self-scrutiny due to their online presence, leading to discussions about body dysmorphia and the mental health aspects of being in the spotlight.

2. Philosophy on Authenticity and Letting Go [19:13 – 24:17]

Overcoming Desperation and Embracing Authenticity

Manny and Laura transition into a philosophical discussion about the detrimental effects of desperation and the importance of being authentic. They emphasize the need to let go of forced actions to achieve goals, advocating for a more relaxed and genuine approach to life and career.

• Manny MUA: “Whenever you feel that desperation or trying to force something to happen, I step back and I let go.” [20:10]

• Laura Lee: “I think that learning to be more laissez has helped me a lot with that.” [21:28]

They highlight how societal pressures and the fear of missing out (FOMO) can lead to unnecessary stress and unauthentic behavior, encouraging listeners to trust the universe and embrace their true selves.

3. Coldplay CEO Affair [24:00 – 36:30]

Scandal Involving Coldplay’s CEO

The main focus of the episode centers around a high-profile scandal involving the CEO of Coldplay. Manny and Laura dissect the incident where the CEO was implicated in a cheating affair, leading to his abrupt dismissal.

• Laura Lee: “The CEO thing has been blown up. How did this even happen?” [49:19]

They discuss the public fallout, the role of investigative reporting in uncovering the affair, and the impact on the company’s reputation. The hosts highlight the seriousness with which companies handle scandals involving top executives, especially in maintaining brand integrity and public trust.

• Manny MUA: “If you’re a cheating ass bitch, don’t go to a Coldplay concert because they will clock you.” [25:18]

• Laura Lee: “It's also not David.” [38:57]

The conversation extends to how such scandals can irreparably damage personal and professional relationships, emphasizing the importance of loyalty and integrity in leadership roles.

4. David Dobrik’s Vlogging Cash Grab [36:30 – 49:18]

Controversy Surrounding David Dobrik’s Recent Actions

Continuing with celebrity scandals, Manny and Laura delve into David Dobrik’s recent shift in vlogging style, which they describe as a "cash grab." They critique Dobrik's decision to alter his content strategy, suggesting it stems from financial motivations rather than genuine creative evolution.

• Manny MUA: “David Dobrik has been such a destroying problem for him in his career.” [36:34]

• Laura Lee: “I was gagging when I saw his vlogs again. It’s like he’s not authentic anymore.” [36:38]

The hosts express disappointment over Dobrik’s perceived loss of authenticity, attributing it to external pressures and personal conflicts, particularly mentioning an antagonist named Jeff who has negatively impacted Dobrik’s career.

• Manny MUA: “Why would you not just pay this guy?” [37:12]

• Laura Lee: “Or pay for his procedures. I think it's an ego thing.” [37:13]

They analyze the broader implications of influencers prioritizing monetization over genuine engagement, warning listeners about the potential pitfalls of chasing financial gains at the expense of authentic content creation.

5. Additional Discussions: Ozzy Osbourne’s Passing [45:26 – 48:38]

Tribute to Rock Legend Ozzy Osbourne

Towards the end of the episode, Manny and Laura share their reactions to the recent passing of Ozzy Osbourne, reflecting on his legacy and the impact of his untimely death at 76.

• Laura Lee: “I got the alert on Apple News that Ozzy Osbourne is dead at 76. It’s so crazy, especially because he lived such a hard life.” [45:28]

• Manny MUA: “I remember the Ozzy Osbourne show with his daughter and brother. It was iconic.” [46:10]

They reminisce about Ozzy’s infamous stage antics, including the notorious incident where he bit the head off a bat during a performance, clarifying misconceptions about the event.

• Laura Lee: “I want that. But it makes me feel better that it was an accident.” [48:19]

Their discussion serves as a homage to Ozzy’s enduring influence in the rock music world, acknowledging both his talent and the controversial moments that defined his career.

6. Conclusion and Closing Remarks [49:07 – 50:09]

Final Thoughts and Teasers for Next Episode

Manny and Laura wrap up the episode by reflecting on the topics discussed and expressing gratitude to their listeners. They tease a special guest for the next episode, maintaining anticipation for future content.

• Laura Lee: “We love you guys so much. Thank you for tuning in.” [50:00]

• Manny MUA: “We’ll catch you in next week’s episode with a special guest. Stay tuned!” [50:09]

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Key Takeaways

• Authenticity Over Monetization: Emphasizing the importance of staying true to oneself amidst external pressures and the allure of financial gains.

• Impact of Scandals: Highlighting how personal misconduct can have profound repercussions on both personal careers and organizational reputations.

• Mental Health Awareness: Addressing the mental toll of maintaining an online presence and the struggles with body image and self-perception.

• Legacy and Influence: Paying tribute to influential figures like Ozzy Osbourne, acknowledging their contributions and complex legacies.

Notable Quotes

• Manny MUA: “Don’t waste your money on Botox if there are no wrinkles.” [08:07]

• Laura Lee: “Preventative Botox is about stopping deep wrinkles from forming, not about getting it before any wrinkles exist.” [06:25]

• Manny MUA: “When you feel desperation, step back and let go. Trust the universe.” [20:10]

• Laura Lee: “Being relaxed and authentic attracts the right opportunities without the negative energy of desperation.” [21:28]

• Manny MUA: “If you’re a cheating ass bitch, don’t go to a Coldplay concert because they will clock you.” [25:18]

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This episode of Fool Coverage offers listeners an insightful blend of personal anecdotes, philosophical musings, and sharp commentary on current celebrity scandals, all delivered with the trademark candidness and glamor that Manny MUA and Laura Lee are known for.

Transcript

[Manny Mu]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Manny Mu]

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[Laura Lee]

When you look at yourself, it actually, like, causes a little bit of body dysmorphia.

[Manny Mu]

Get out of there. Quit your job. Welcome to your favorite podcast. It's full coverage with your host, Manny Mu. Gibbs. And L. And L.

[Laura Lee]

Hi, guys. How are you guys doing this gorgeous day?

[Manny Mu]

Oh, it is a beautiful day.

[Laura Lee]

It's stunning. It honestly, like, it really is.

[Manny Mu]

Actually. No, it was actually. You know what it is?

[Laura Lee]

It is yesterday.

[Manny Mu]

I'm sick of the clouds. I think we paid.

[Laura Lee]

Is that your pit?

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Well, you're like, no, I have so many.

[Manny Mu]

I have so many. The list runs so long. But my main pit is the movement in my forehead.

[Laura Lee]

This is.

[Manny Mu]

Manny said he's never seen that many wrinkles on my forehead.

[Laura Lee]

I've never said that. I said I've never seen you had so much movement in your forehead.

[Manny Mu]

Okay, wrinkles.

[Laura Lee]

I never said that. She took that, and she took it with wrinkles. I said, I've never seen so much movement. Like a sweet angel that I am.

[Manny Mu]

We've never seen this many wrinkles.

[Laura Lee]

We've never seen this.

[Manny Mu]

Collectively, we have not.

[Laura Lee]

I'm going to hold your hand when I say this. Never seen it.

[Manny Mu]

Oh, you guys. I keep trying to film tech talks, but every time my forehead goes wild.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, oh, because you're expressive person.

[Manny Mu]

I want the caveman forehead back. Yeah, I want it back. I'm going to. I already have an appointment for my botoxy.

[Laura Lee]

I know you're excited for that appointment.

[Manny Mu]

I will be there 30 minutes early to sign the forms. I said, she's gonna have to pump me full 100 units. I'm gonna tell you guys some Bad news. So if you do the heated workouts and you sweat a lot, it remains.

[Laura Lee]

Anything with the heat.

[Manny Mu]

Anything with heat that's going to cause your body to excrete toxins and liquids. You're going to lose your Botox so much faster than if you just didn't just live.

[Laura Lee]

Just live. Like. Yeah. And it's not even. It's not the. Even the case of, like, let's say, like, running on the beach. Like, it's not the same as, like, going and doing a sauna or a heated class, anything in, like, a heated environment. Like, that you sweat differently in those environments, so you're going to get out. They always say. And it's like, hey, if you're doing heated, like, saunas, if it will excrete your Botox much faster.

[Manny Mu]

That's the only downside, man.

[Laura Lee]

I know. It is the only downside, because it's the toxic. Literally getting rid of toxins.

[Manny Mu]

And I'm not doing Botox for post. I'm paying for my. Okay. So the thing is, is that when you do those heated workouts, I'm, like, soaking wet. Like, I jumped out of swim pool for an hour straight. So, like, that's gonna get that Botox.

[Laura Lee]

Absolutely. That shit will last you, what, two months if that.

[Manny Mu]

Less. Way less. Like, if I get Botox, I probably only last four weeks. And I'm starting to see movement again. Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, my God. Mine lasts, like, two.

[Manny Mu]

So I just have to. I can't get Botox that often.

[Laura Lee]

Just.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah, I mean, too much, Too much. It's too much. I'm not that committed to a perfect face. Clear.

[Laura Lee]

Right?

[Manny Mu]

Everybody's like, yeah, girl. I'm like, we know, we know. We know. I'm just not that committed. But I am committed to a degree, so I'm gonna have. Course I'm sick of seeing this. I know I'm gonna be like, I want to be. Every time I go in there. I'm like, not. Don't get crazy. Like, let's. This time. This time over. I want, like, I've had a facelift. I want plastic surgery.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mu]

That's what I want it.

[Laura Lee]

So we actually need a lift while we're there. We should just go and lift everything.

[Manny Mu]

We should do the lift.

[Laura Lee]

Let's do a cheek lift.

[Manny Mu]

Can I say, too, I don't believe in preventative Botox. That's.

[Laura Lee]

You don't believe in that?

[Manny Mu]

No, I do. Oh, I love that we disagree on this.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I do. Because. And the reason. The only reason I say that is because When I was in my younger 20s, like, I would say, like, when I was like, maybe 24, 25 is when I started getting mini Botox, because I was emotive. Like, I was already very emotive in my forehead doing these, like, mini sessions. It would also. I wouldn't actually go in very often. I would go maybe like, once every six months.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Now I'm like, every, like, three. I have to go in.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

But back then, I wasn't doing as much. But now when I go in, I don't need as much. And I don't have, like, wrinkles that are already stationary in my forehead. Like, they were never there.

[Manny Mu]

So I did the same thing as you. Like, whenever I hit around 25, I would do it like, once a year or twice a year, but it's because I would by 25, have, like, wrinkles.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. I have, like, little, like, mini same.

[Manny Mu]

So I feel like that's not.

[Laura Lee]

Is that not technically preventative?

[Manny Mu]

Preventative is like, in your young 20s, before you have wrinkles on your forehead, to.

[Laura Lee]

Before they start to start, before they get deep. I think maybe it's before they actually get to, like, the depth.

[Manny Mu]

But I don't believe into it because what happens is, like, Botox is Botox. Like, if you don't have it, you'll have wrinkles. And as soon as you get it, it smooths that shit out. Like iron work. Whether you've had it before or is your first time getting it, unless you're like, 50. Yeah. It's not going to smooth every fucking wrinkle in your younger years of, like, starting to wrink, wrinkle up. It'll nip it in the bud whether you've gotten it at 18, 20 years old or not. It will.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. No, then that's. But I think that's what they say. They mean when they say that, though, is like, when you start. It is when you start to, like, kind of acclimate to, like, having less movement in that spot.

[Manny Mu]

Well, they tell you if you get it, like, in your young 20s, before you're seeing wrinkles, it'll help prevent you from getting more wrinkles in the future. And I don't believe that.

[Laura Lee]

I see it, like, maybe just in my mind. I just see it in a different way where it's like, to me, I'm like, if I started doing them young and I start to get the. The little wrinkles I had, they would never form into deep wrinkles. That's what I think. Like, preventative. Do you think so? I do I think that honestly. Because you're not using that muscle.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

As much.

[Manny Mu]

I see what you're saying.

[Laura Lee]

So I think so. Like, for example, if you're.

[Manny Mu]

My problem is, though, I've been frozen for 10 years now. And the.

[Laura Lee]

But see, you're emoting now. But the thing is, if you actually look in your thing, you don't have deep set wrinkles.

[Manny Mu]

Right there.

[Laura Lee]

You're moving now. Exactly. I think that's what the preventative is for.

[Manny Mu]

But whenever you get the Botox in your forehead, though, they all go away.

[Laura Lee]

The deep, deep ones do. Not only because my brother, like, I want. My brother has a deep, like, set and he's gotten Botox in just to, like, see what happens. It shallowed it definitely shallowed it for sure. But they didn't go away. So I was kind of like, maybe this is what they talk about because it was already so deep set.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

I don't think you can reverse one that's too deep. I think that if you have, like, shallower, like ours, like, they're shallow.

[Manny Mu]

I feel like my shit's deep.

[Laura Lee]

No, it's not. I feel like literally, if it was deep, you would have creases on your. On your foundation.

[Manny Mu]

You know, I used to have creases, but I wouldn't get Botox that often and I would have creases. But the Botox would make them go away.

[Laura Lee]

Right. But they were. But they weren't that deep. So if you had ones that were that deep, if you had to Botox, they wouldn't go away.

[Manny Mu]

Do you feel like preventative. Botox is great if you have some pretty deep set happening or it's starting.

[Laura Lee]

To get to, like. I'm talking, like, when you. The preventatives, I think to stop it from getting to the point where it's so deep.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

That there's like, really no going.

[Manny Mu]

You should never get Botox if you don't have wrinkles.

[Laura Lee]

Right. I think that honestly, you have to.

[Manny Mu]

Start really, like your money at that point. I think it's whenever you start to see stuff you don't want to.

[Laura Lee]

A little bit like a little like a morsel of mood movement and like wrinkle age.

[Manny Mu]

That's like borderline not preventative because then you're treating.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, that's true.

[Manny Mu]

You know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I feel like for me, preventative is like, okay, get it before it gets to a bad spot. Yes.

[Manny Mu]

But it. Preventative is like, get it before you get wrinkles.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mu]

Which I feel like that's Silly.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I feel like that one. Because then what's the point of getting it if you have literally nothing? If you have nothing at all. And like, if you. Because some people genetically, even in their young 20s, that they emote and they will have, like, shit happening already. Like, it will be. It's like, okay, you want to kind of start then?

[Manny Mu]

I love this full episode is about my fucking wrecked forehead.

[Laura Lee]

You're so right. But anyway, I do believe that there's, like, some truth is to have. You don't want it to get to a deep point, but don't do it. There's nothing. I agree to that. I agree with that.

[Manny Mu]

Like, don't waste your money on Botox. Like, truly, if there's no wrinkles.

[Laura Lee]

Like, if you have nothing at all and even if you're emoting crazy and there's still nothing, it's going to waste your money. Yeah. Because there's no point.

[Manny Mu]

Also, it doesn't last forever, so you're going to have to keep doing it.

[Laura Lee]

When is the permanent one coming out for real? I'll be real.

[Manny Mu]

I need first patient zero.

[Laura Lee]

Laura is actually going to be in the clinical trials.

[Manny Mu]

Honey.

[Laura Lee]

Huh? It's literally like freaking some crazy octopus venom.

[Manny Mu]

If I was never online or sell myself or not taking pictures or filming videos and having to look at myself all week, every single week of my life, I'll be so for real. I wouldn't give a.

[Laura Lee]

At all. At all.

[Manny Mu]

I would care.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mu]

But I would not keep up with this.

[Laura Lee]

Like, it wouldn't be like, keep up with it.

[Manny Mu]

And I.

[Laura Lee]

But you're like, and I care.

[Manny Mu]

Can you imagine if I wasn't online? I would probably do it, like, spend money on it, like, once or twice a year as a treat. But I would not.

[Laura Lee]

But it wouldn't be, like.

[Manny Mu]

It wouldn't be like. It is for me now. And y' all can be like, oh, it's great. But listen, I have to look at myself and I don't want to see them.

[Laura Lee]

That's the thing is when you look at yourself, it actually, like, causes a little bit of body dysmorphia. That too. But it's body dysmorphia that you could get a little bit. When you stare at yourself for 12 years straight.

[Manny Mu]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

On camera. You're gonna want, like, for example, me, like, I. When I got my hair transplant, when I got my teeth. Like, all these things. Like, they are all things that I personally wanted because I was probably feeling a way about them, not because people were telling me it's because I felt that after looking at myself for so.

[Manny Mu]

Long, the only thing people told me was that I need to get my teeth fixed. They did, and they told me in every video, and it was my number one search before I got canceled.

[Laura Lee]

Lorelee teeth.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah, Lorelee teeth.

[Laura Lee]

I remember that era, actually. I do remember them. Those chompers. I remember. And look at how gorgeous youth are now.

[Manny Mu]

I know. They got me. The girls got me.

[Laura Lee]

They got you. And it worked out in a great way.

[Manny Mu]

Thanks.

[Laura Lee]

My pit is that the mosquitoes are out this season.

[Manny Mu]

Oh, man.

[Laura Lee]

Yesterday.

[Manny Mu]

I'm glad it wasn't my house, because you stay blaming my house.

[Laura Lee]

I don't blame your house. I just. I blame this forsaken season that we're in. I was outside in my backyard yesterday for maybe five minutes. Oh, maybe five minutes. I was in shorts, though, and a chunk lo.

[Manny Mu]

What were you doing outside?

[Laura Lee]

I was having my security provider provide extra stuff for me.

[Manny Mu]

I knew there was a specific reason because I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on. He would not be outside just on his own.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, so tell me about floodlights. Like, it was like, one of those checks. When your security people come in, there's like, oh, do you, like. Do you want to fix anything, or do you want more added? I'm like, kind of like, let's go around the house and look around. So that's what we did. We went through my backyard. Just walked around. In five minutes, I was outside just looking. Four bites.

[Manny Mu]

Oh, my God.

[Laura Lee]

One on each ankle.

[Manny Mu]

The ankles was cankled.

[Laura Lee]

Two on my knee. So my kneecap right now.

[Manny Mu]

Fat daddy.

[Laura Lee]

It's not okay. And I have them. I have this little, like, thing where it's like, a heated plate that I put on them to, like, disperse the venom. It helps, like, with my itching.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So I do this so that I'm like, okay. So I have, like, two things. I have one that's, like, the bug. The bug thing. And it, like, helps suck up the venom to the surface. So it helps. Doesn't, like, spread it. That helps a lot. And then I have this, like, thing that's, like, battery operated, and it's like a metal plate that heats up to. For five seconds that you put on the bite to help break down the protein that causes the itching. But that five seconds feels like torture because it literally feels, like, scaldingly hot on your bug bite. So I've been having to do that and doing that on your knee. Do you know how sensitive your knee Is. It's your knee.

[Manny Mu]

Yours is, like, pretty rough, though.

[Laura Lee]

I'm just.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah, I'm roasting.

[Laura Lee]

She's like, your knee, though.

[Manny Mu]

Your knee.

[Laura Lee]

You need your knees done.

[Manny Mu]

I heard what you do with the nail file with the ankle. So that's why I'm bringing the knee into this.

[Laura Lee]

You know, it's fierce down there.

[Manny Mu]

Manny is so allergic to mosquitoes.

[Laura Lee]

I actually am. I will say people, like, I think they think it's funny that I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I get freaked out by mosquitoes. But, like, if you guys saw my reactions to them and, like, how I get golf balls to them.

[Manny Mu]

Bad reaction.

[Laura Lee]

That I is more warranted. Why I will freak out because I will have. This is finally going away. Like, I got bit, like, from Friday.

[Manny Mu]

They love you.

[Laura Lee]

And this is like, it at. Its like, it's done. But it's like, I usually will have, like, a. Well like, out to here. And it's just like, they love me, but I'm really, really allergic. So I try to avoid them. Or I'll do bug spray. I'll do all the things I can possibly do to avoid getting bit. But that's why my reactions were honestly, like, I felt like, what, like a flea bite would be. Because I'm not allergic to flea bites. And they just, like, a little bump and it stink or like, it just itches. If I didn't have those, I wouldn't really care as much.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

But because I do have the reaction. I do care. I'm like, no, no. I'll, like, feel like crazy.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So, yeah, that's my.

[Manny Mu]

I'm sorry. They're gonna pick you up and take.

[Laura Lee]

They're gonna kill me. They want to kill me.

[Manny Mu]

They do.

[Laura Lee]

Mm.

[Manny Mu]

Do you have a peek?

[Laura Lee]

I do have a peek, but I wrote it down. Why do we do this? I don't understand why we do this. I got a new laptop.

[Manny Mu]

Oh, yay, you guys.

[Laura Lee]

I did it. We told the audience. We told you guys, full fam last time, where I was like, you guys, my laptop's. And I was like, doing it like this. You guys know I got a new one.

[Manny Mu]

I'm so proud of you.

[Laura Lee]

Thousands. You guys. I also realized what day I bought the laptop, and I didn't realize it was so old. Tell them when I sent it to you, I know you gagged. 2016.

[Manny Mu]

Oh, my God.

[Laura Lee]

Remember I sent you. I sent you the photo. I was like, this is the year I bought it.

[Manny Mu]

Almost 10 years old. Almost.

[Laura Lee]

So it just finally apple be lasted.

[Manny Mu]

Dead ass Mine has never lost that long.

[Laura Lee]

Mine lasted nine years.

[Manny Mu]

That's crazy.

[Laura Lee]

Nine years and then the. And it still technically works, but my screen just does that. You can't open it fully.

[Manny Mu]

Did you trade her in?

[Laura Lee]

No, I. I kept it just because I had like any things on it that I wanted to keep. So I just have it there. I don't want to even trade it because honestly if I traded. I looked it up. I was curious. I was like, how much would I get for it? A hundred dollars.

[Manny Mu]

Oh girl. Dang. Cuz.

[Laura Lee]

How old it is?

[Manny Mu]

They're like.

[Laura Lee]

It'S literally battery. Like it's battery operated. Yeah. I was like it, dude. So that's like. I got a new laptop and it's actually stunning and I kind of.

[Manny Mu]

Isn't it so nice. Did you get the big one or the small one?

[Laura Lee]

I got the pro.

[Manny Mu]

Oh good. It's like so.

[Laura Lee]

I love it. I love it.

[Manny Mu]

I always travel with my pro because it's like my emotional support laptop. Cuz I'm a workaholic and I like.

[Laura Lee]

That all of them have buttons too.

[Manny Mu]

Like they're raised compared to mine now, isn't it?

[Laura Lee]

So it's really nice. I actually like typing on them.

[Manny Mu]

What's crazy is I had your laptop. Do you remember we had the same laptop and then my. That burned out years and years ago and then I got my big daddy and I travel with it all the time and it's so heavy to carry around traveling. It's miserable. You love it and I love it. I take it everywhere.

[Laura Lee]

I love it too. I'm obsessed with it. The fact that there's like a button now for like the brightness. Before it was like a screen and you have to like fiddle with it. A mess now it's like sickening.

[Manny Mu]

I love that. Well, my peak is that I don't have a specific peak which is so up because life is great. It is like life is.

[Laura Lee]

Your peak is like. Life is just.

[Manny Mu]

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[Manny Mu]

Focusing on the act of desperation. And maybe it's LA and maybe it's this career but I feel like it's everybody. You know how all the little things in life you can feel like, oh, I gotta be there.

[Laura Lee]

You want to do something, oh, I.

[Manny Mu]

Need to Texas person back right now. Or they're not. Yeah, you know, oh my God, I want to go to that event or you know like all the things like I've worked so hard on like literally let letting that go and going. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mu]

And it has made my life so much better. So the act of desperation and it sounds like such a negative thing by.

[Laura Lee]

The way, but it's like, I mean like urgency.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah, the urgency over things that are not urgent. You know what I mean? Like because we want something so we'll do things with urgency to try to make it happen, try to force it to happen. That's exactly what I'm saying. And we've all done it and we all feel it's like a natural human thing. But anytime I catch myself with the feeling of desperation or trying to force something to happen, I step back and I let go.

[Laura Lee]

You're like, why?

[Manny Mu]

Yeah, why?

[Laura Lee]

Why are you doing it like that?

[Manny Mu]

Why are you doing. What happens if you don't get this? Not a big deal. No nothing. What happens if you do great. But I don't want to get it through forcing things to happen. I feel like that was always my approach because I really wanted something and like the older you get in life you learn the lessons and then you do things a little differently. So. And all my self development books, it talks a lot about that being a negative low energy which obviously low wavelength. Yes. You want a high vibration and to Sometimes just kind of like, obviously act on opportunities that are there for you in a not desperate way, but at the same time letting it go. And trust the universe that what's for you will be for you and you'll get. And what's not is not. Has been like, one of the most peaceful. I don't know, it's just brought, like.

[Laura Lee]

It'S like a peaceful outlook.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah. It's like such a peaceful thing that's been implemented into my life and has brought me so much peace. So want to share it. And like, let's say there's some. A goal. You're going for something you want. Try to lose that sense of desperation and getting it and do everything you can to get it without acting desperate. You know what I mean? Or forcing things to happen. And I really feel like the universe take. Takes care of the rest or God provides whatever you believe in spiritually takes care of the rest.

[Laura Lee]

I love it. I love that sentiment. I think that's the truth.

[Manny Mu]

It is.

[Laura Lee]

That's my word of wisdom as my peace. That's her word of wisdom, you guys. She's biblical today.

[Manny Mu]

I'm like, sorry, not worried about it.

[Laura Lee]

You know, that's good. I think that. I honestly think, because I am also very much like that in the way of. I actually try to be very laissez about, like, so many things. Like, honestly, I actually don't get offended easily. I'm actually quite chill. And I like to just be like a jokester. Like, I don't. And I think that plays into that a little bit. Like, I don't feel the need to look for problems or look for bad things. Like, I'm like, I don't care. Like, I don't want to. Like, I want to be the type person that's like, more laissez and more chill and relaxed. And I think that kind of feeds into that a little bit where you're not so desperate for something.

[Manny Mu]

I feel like it's like a natural human attraction too. Like, whenever you feel that. Not try hard.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mu]

Not pick me.

[Laura Lee]

Chill.

[Manny Mu]

Like, I don't really care.

[Laura Lee]

Like, I love people like that too.

[Manny Mu]

You know, it's not about being like, I'm too cool to be here or like, you're not cool enough. I don't care. It's not that at all. It's just like being a truly your authentic self and not doing things above and beyond that that isn't you. And you typically wouldn't do to get something. Because I will be the first to admit, whenever I See, that specific pick me behavior, whether it's a reality TV show, an influencer online, it's a hard watch.

[Laura Lee]

It's almost unwatchable.

[Manny Mu]

Exactly. So it's like an energy put out there that's just negative and it does not attract. But I'm telling you, like, it repels. It is, it's a, it's a repeller. And I feel like whenever you put that energy out there, it' like anti people pleaser. It's just like so genuine. Yourself. No, you're not going to be everyone's cup of tea. But it has a gravitational pull. A gravital, a gravitation. It does a gravit. A pull. It has a pull, it has an attraction. And you will attract people to you.

[Laura Lee]

I honestly agree. And as a recovering, constantly recovering people pleaser, I agree. And I think that learning to be more laissez has helped me a lot with that actually. Just learning to be a little bit more like, like chill and like, not care as much. I think that was my biggest thing is like, I care too much of like the idea of FOMO or like, feel like I'm missing out on something, but I'm like, girl, like, what am I missing out on? Like, calm down. So I think that's actually helped a lot. Like the idea of that. It's just kind of being like, it's not that serious.

[Manny Mu]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

I think that it's not that serious. It's just like, great.

[Manny Mu]

And if you feel like you needed to hear this, you heard it for a reason.

[Laura Lee]

You heard it and you heard it.

[Manny Mu]

Here for a reason. What's going on?

[Laura Lee]

Ratifier, honey. Okay, can we talk about the CEO?

[Manny Mu]

Oh, we got to.

[Laura Lee]

The CEO thing has been. It's blown up.

[Manny Mu]

It has blown the.

[Laura Lee]

Was it a CEO of a astronomer?

[Manny Mu]

I don't even know what the that is, man.

[Laura Lee]

I, I honestly, I could be wrong. I don't even know if it's called that, but it's something with astronomy.

[Manny Mu]

It is.

[Laura Lee]

It's something.

[Manny Mu]

He was the head of hr, girl.

[Laura Lee]

You guys, the story. Do you think the story.

[Manny Mu]

Tell them, baby. Coldplay don't play at the Coldplay concert. I mean, most of you know this story, of course, it went so viral. But the Jumbo Tron was showing couples and during the song yell and it flashes to this couple that's hugged up and then they duck and hide a spot.

[Laura Lee]

Like, freak out.

[Manny Mu]

Like they, like they freaked. Their reaction was definitely what got them in hot water. Because if they would have played it cool and just no one Said no one would have caught them except for their spouses of course.

[Laura Lee]

And like, I mean even then though, because what if that video didn't go around? Yeah, why would it go around if.

[Manny Mu]

It doesn't reaction around so baby. But I understand the reaction. Like, my God. It's a jarring like, oh my God.

[Laura Lee]

No, it's crazy.

[Manny Mu]

It is the craziest like coincidence. Also, I have to say this. If you are both married, that's bold.

[Laura Lee]

Going to a cool ass concert like.

[Manny Mu]

That together to me and being like all upon each other.

[Laura Lee]

I love that Chris Martin was literally like, either they're cheating or you're shy.

[Manny Mu]

And everybody's like, they're cheating.

[Laura Lee]

But also the fact that they found them online like from like that photo. I'm like, how did you guys find them? Investigative reporting.

[Manny Mu]

The thing is someone always knows who they are and all it takes for them to comment. And the people that follow that comment and be like, oh my God, it's real. This isn't LinkedIn reporters, that's reporters.

[Laura Lee]

Everyone's a reporter nowadays.

[Manny Mu]

Everyone is a reporter and no one is safe. No, if you're a cheating ass bitch, don't go to a Coldplay concert because they will clock get you.

[Laura Lee]

Chris Martin's gonna get you personally.

[Manny Mu]

Personally.

[Laura Lee]

It was so. It's because the reaction was so crazy. Now that there's been so many parodies, you know, obviously like the person that like the CEO is actually like let go of the company, like asked to step down. And obviously, in case you guys do not know, like when there's a companies of that size and that stature, they have boards that vote. So it's like, it's not just like.

[Manny Mu]

They were like, how do you confuse CEO? So a CEO, it sounds like one of those words where they're the head, you're the boss show and you're the boss and you're running everything. That is not what a CEO is. Especially to a public company that has a board, people get to vote. And there were also a lot of people that disagreed, like, okay, this is a personal affair. Why should he lose his job? It was the press. So the company can't take that level of heat and press. It's damaging to the company. So he should not be the CEO if he carries that bag to press. Yes, of course, 48 hours prior he didn't have that bad.

[Laura Lee]

Of course. Yeah, but it really. This is also why, for example, like even like as creators ourselves, there's clauses in contracts for if you like act crazy and you get bad Press and you get all this like vitriol, the company or the brand can pull whatever they're doing with you because based off of like I forgot what it's actually, it's like a virtue thing. I can't remember what the actual clause is. But usually in contracts even they're like, if you act crazy, we have the right to pull whatever we just did with you. So it's the same kind of concept that goes with them. Like yeah, it seems crazy that like a CEO got fired off of like a cheating scandal but because the scandal got to the size it is and they are the CEO of the company and they represent that company as the CEO. That is why they were like.

[Manny Mu]

Like for instance, if this cheating scandal happened to the CEO and it was just between the woman and his wife, he wouldn't be the same because not affecting the company. Exactly. The bad press for him and her affected the company. So therefore. And it always will. Yeah, it always will.

[Laura Lee]

That's how it is.

[Manny Mu]

Like you see those people's face, that's all you'll ever think of them as because of the way the press got so big on it. So did you see his daughter?

[Laura Lee]

Bitch. I've been living, honey, she's. I've been living for the daughter. I've been living. There was this one poster she did and I literally screamed. I was just like, this is like I love her is when there was a comment because she was, I guess like made a video about the situation. Someone commented like I'll never feel sad for rich people on your yachts. She quote like responds to that comment and she's on a yacht and she's like, I know. She's like running through and I scream cuz I'm like, I live for you. Because it's just like, like you know, you're that girl. And I love when a will own that. They're just like, yeah, I know. Yeah.

[Manny Mu]

Oh well you don't have to because I'm on the yacht. Come on, you don't have to feel bad for me.

[Laura Lee]

Like I live for her because like you don't have to because I'm on the yacht. She's like, don't love it. Like I love. I just like when someone like takes control of their own narrative.

[Manny Mu]

So beautiful. I know that has anything to do with why she should have a loyal husband. No matter what she look like she deserves a loyal husband. But I'm just saying what a loser.

[Laura Lee]

I shrunk. I like and it's so. It's just crazy. She is beautiful. And just like the fact that the other. The HR person also was with someone.

[Manny Mu]

Yes. Married.

[Laura Lee]

This is creep. And it's. Of course, it almost feels like a movie. That's why it got so viral, because it was hr.

[Manny Mu]

It was.

[Laura Lee]

It was like a movie. Anime charts. A movie. Head of human resources.

[Manny Mu]

Has she stepped down? No.

[Laura Lee]

I don't know.

[Manny Mu]

I can't be the head.

[Laura Lee]

You can be in hr. This can't be the head.

[Manny Mu]

I watch so many TV shows where they're hooking up with the CEO.

[Laura Lee]

Well, it's honestly like wireless with those. Like, ideas for those shows come from.

[Manny Mu]

From real life, so. Right. They come from reality out there. Can't keep it in their pants.

[Laura Lee]

Like, it's literally. Huh. So, like, I honestly just.

[Manny Mu]

The fact that if you're hooking up with your boss, walk away now. It's not an original storyline.

[Laura Lee]

It's never worth it either. It's never especially. That's like, with someone, girl.

[Manny Mu]

Also, you're hooking up with them because you're in the office with them 24 7. If you met them on the street, you wouldn't even be hooking up.

[Laura Lee]

Exactly. There's a power imbalance. Oh, yeah.

[Manny Mu]

No Office High. You know that.

[Laura Lee]

I never heard that thing.

[Manny Mu]

Okay, so Office Hot is whenever you work with someone and you see them every day and you're comparing them to the other people in the office that you're with 40 hours a week. So they're hot in the office, but in the outside world, it's no one you would ever talk to. So it's called Office Hot.

[Laura Lee]

I didn't know that was a thing. Yes.

[Manny Mu]

You haven't heard of Office Hot?

[Laura Lee]

No.

[Manny Mu]

Like, you think he's Office Hot?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. So the whole thing is actually like, oh, my God. Duh.

[Manny Mu]

So ask yourself, by the way, if you're a listener and you have the hots for someone at your office, single or whatever. Okay, yeah, stop. Go touch grass and then go. Are they Office Hot or. I saw this man in the street. I saw him in the restaurant. I saw him at the club. He was my doctor. Would he be hot to you? They're probably office hot. Also, the immense amount of time you spend with those people, it warps your brain.

[Laura Lee]

It warps your brain.

[Manny Mu]

Warps your brain. So get out of there. Get out of there. Quit your jobs. Right. Quit your jobs.

[Laura Lee]

Why are you giving me Ariana Grande right now with the sleeves mittens? Laura, it is so fun.

[Manny Mu]

First of all, these are called Sleep mittens. According to TikTok, these are sleep mittens. And like all the girls like doing their skin care with this water, washing their face.

[Laura Lee]

This is so funny.

[Manny Mu]

I know.

[Laura Lee]

I love like soaking sweaters just like this.

[Manny Mu]

If you guys are wondering why I'm wearing a big ass hoodie in July, it's because it's very cold in the summer.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, it's cold in here.

[Manny Mu]

I have to remain warm at all times.

[Laura Lee]

I feel great, personally. I know, I know. Another amazing thing that happened recently was that Charli XCX got married.

[Manny Mu]

Oh yeah.

[Laura Lee]

And I was just, you know, elated for her. Like Mary and George.

[Manny Mu]

She married singer in 1975.

[Laura Lee]

I don't think he's the lead singer, but he's in the 1975. Your face is killing me. He's in the 1975. There's music is.

[Manny Mu]

It's so good.

[Laura Lee]

Beyond. I'm obsessed with their music. I have so many.

[Manny Mu]

Why is she the only celebrity that had a real wedding? She's the only celebrity I've ever seen to have an actual real wedding.

[Laura Lee]

I loved it.

[Manny Mu]

Not like some, you know, grand over the top gesture princess of Europe. Like just like ridiculously over the top. It was a normal wedding.

[Laura Lee]

I loved it and she looked amazing. She still looks so Charlie to me. Like, it's just so funny.

[Manny Mu]

Like, not one. Like, her aesthetic is so Charlie there. She's like, no, I loved it.

[Laura Lee]

I loved every bit of it. And I'm just happy for her because honestly, the album Brat, this has been. A lot of it was about. Yeah. And a lot of it was about like, you know, her relationship with George and like, you know, like finding who she is as an artist and as a person. And so it's just cool to see someone like that you really like. And I idolize her. I really love her and I really respect her a lot. Get married and like it work out. And she's a pop star.

[Manny Mu]

She's our pop star.

[Laura Lee]

She's literally, she's our star.

[Manny Mu]

We gotta meet her.

[Laura Lee]

We have to meet her.

[Manny Mu]

It's up that we've met every. We have not met every celebrity, but God, met so many. That's like her genre.

[Laura Lee]

She needs to do a collab with us. A beauty collab. Lunar Beauty X. Charlie X. I was like, she needs to do a minimum scrub.

[Manny Mu]

Honestly.

[Laura Lee]

Green. And it's green.

[Manny Mu]

We're gonna have to send an email.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I need to eat Brad Green.

[Manny Mu]

I'll do it. I'll make that happen.

[Laura Lee]

I'll pay for the units, whatever you need. I got you. No, we do need a meter. Dead ass.

[Manny Mu]

We. Wait a minute. We get a meaner. What. What else is tea?

[Laura Lee]

There's something else.

[Manny Mu]

Oh, the Bob House is over, babe.

[Laura Lee]

The Bop House.

[Manny Mu]

Okay, explain what the Bop House is first for our.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, so the Bop House is like, you know how, like on TikTok and like other social platforms, there's these houses of content creators that kind of live together and they kind of curate content together. It's a bunch of everyone. So the Bop House was something that the girlies did. They're like the Corn girls, you know, the of girlies that did that. And they were kind of coming together. And Camille, Camila, I think it was.

[Manny Mu]

Like a ton of them too. Like, no.

[Laura Lee]

And they're like, huge. There's the one that was like one that was in it that was so famous for making like, what, 55 million on only fans. She. She was like, blew up and she was in the Bobhouse and like, she was like part of that crew. And so I just saw, you know, Camila, she made this video and she was like, the bathhouse is over. It's done. And this thing was like, blowing up on Tick Tock, you guys. The girls were in it. Like, it was actually insane. But they just announced that, you know, they couldn't come to, like, you know, business understandings. And like, their actual friendships were at jeopardy.

[Manny Mu]

They were trying to film a reality TV show suit too. And whenever you do that, especially in a situation like them, the producers have to put you together. And I know they're the demons of it, but that's the reason you watch reality tv and that's why they do what they do. But when it's your real life and it's like your real, real career, sometimes it's not worth it. And it seems like they came to that solution. They seem really broken up about it. I think these. All these houses are actually genius. They. They are like, they make sense because it's like, okay, we're all doing the same thing. We're all filming content 24 7. What could possibly be better than living it together, doing it together. So that way, one, it's the collabing, but also having people in your wheelhouse that can help you. You have spaces to film and makes sense. But logistically, they never work out. To me, they never work out. Could you imagine 2018 if all of us OG beauty gurus live together?

[Laura Lee]

We could kill each other. Like, it would have been a mess.

[Manny Mu]

I would have been in jail.

[Laura Lee]

I mean, it was already A mess. It was a living together.

[Manny Mu]

It was a disaster. And we did not live.

[Laura Lee]

So imagine that all the, like, big beauty creators of the time all living in one house together. It would be pandemonium.

[Manny Mu]

Pandemonium.

[Laura Lee]

It would be disaster. So it's like. Like, I can see it just doesn't work. And I feel like a lot of these houses that people do, they never work logistically, ever. I never see that. They, like, are like, oh, my God, they've stayed houses forever. Like, they're pledged. It's like, no, girl. Like, they're not. They actually fall apart.

[Manny Mu]

They run their course, and then they fall apart.

[Laura Lee]

And it's always. I. I honestly always think it's something where it's like a business thing, where it's like, some things are too big for the britches, or it's like someone's making a decision that someone else doesn't agree with, and it's all these different things. I'm like, I think that's why.

[Manny Mu]

And also, whenever you have something really big, like, they all have these huge following, and they're all making, like, big money, like, way beyond what we've made. Like, we're talking $50 million. So then decisions become a really big deal.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean?

[Manny Mu]

Like, it's no longer. If each of you has that power and that much money, it's no longer like, oh, I'll just fold and do. You don't have to do that anymore. So heads are going to butt. And I could see how that would fall apart. But I'm sure they'll all go on and be great.

[Laura Lee]

I hope that they just say friends like that. Like, yeah, it would suck to see friendships fall apart based off of, like, a big business decision. You know what I mean? Like, that sucks. And it happens for people. It really does happen. So it makes me, like, sad. That's like, that would really suck.

[Manny Mu]

Did you see David Dorbr's vlogging again?

[Laura Lee]

I gagged. I was gagged. Literally. Had said before, I'm not vlogging anymore.

[Manny Mu]

I think my thing for him will always be the confusion is because, like, I have no doubt in my mind that David do has money.

[Laura Lee]

Absolutely.

[Manny Mu]

Like, no, he has coins. That man has got coin tata. I don't care how he ti if he tries to downplay it at all. Money. He got money. Jeff has been such a destroying problem for him in his career. Like, that really has hurt David's career.

[Laura Lee]

Absolutely.

[Manny Mu]

Why would you not just pay this guy? Whether you're egotistical and you're Like, I shouldn't have to. Why would you not just pay him.

[Laura Lee]

Or pay for his, like, procedures?

[Manny Mu]

Yes, absolutely.

[Laura Lee]

I think it's an ego thing.

[Manny Mu]

Why. But that's crazy. But that's what I'm determined. This has been to David. It's like if the math was mathing. Hey, Jeff.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. I also think maybe, what if there's a world where, like, the damage has already been done, so he's, like, paying him is not. What's the point? I've already been damaged. Like, that kind of thing. I wonder if there's a world where that happens, because that does happen, too. People be like, well, you damaged me, so why would I do your favorite.

[Manny Mu]

It is too far gone, girl.

[Laura Lee]

Now. It's crazy, but I feel like back then, it should have been, like, what it was. Yeah, because I saw that. I saw, like, about how Jeff was talking, like, about, like, the. There's, like, a clip going on with, like, Tana and Logan and Mike, and they're all talking about, like, the friendships with Corinna and, like, with Jeff, and he was, like, reacting to it, and he's like, this is why I just don't fuck with people in LA like, that. Like, where I'm from, if my friend doesn't fuck with someone, then I don't fuck with them. Like, immediately, like, I'm written off. But, like, here, everyone's, like, kind of in it for themselves. And I'm like, yeah, that kind of just, like, makes sense. At the end of the day, I think that that, like, let's say Mike, like, being who's friends with him is friends with someone that's loosely associated with. That's fine.

[Manny Mu]

I personally think it's fine, baby.

[Laura Lee]

That's his. That's.

[Manny Mu]

It shows, like, his worry with that is, like, he's trying to be loyal to Jeff. Like, he's trying.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Like, he.

[Manny Mu]

But Corinna didn't do anything, and it's not like that. And she's in every one of his vlogs and that's his best friend anymore. Like, she's completely on.

[Laura Lee]

It's also not David.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

It's literally like, someone who David's friends with. Like, it doesn't. Like, it's literally like. Like, Jeff, David, Corinna, Mike. Like, they're not. They're not even connected close. Like, what do you mean?

[Manny Mu]

And it's like, don't let this situation with David ruin really good friendships of people that have your back. And I understand it's, like, a much more hurtful situation. I'M not in that position.

[Laura Lee]

Of course.

[Manny Mu]

But I didn't.

[Laura Lee]

From the outside looking in.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah. Just from the outside looking in, it's like, don't let David take more.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. And it's also like at the end of the day, like, you cannot control who your friends are friends with.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

And if they feel like they're friends with someone, that's not even the culprit, mind you. It's not even like as if he's friends with him. It's friends with someone that that person's friend with. You cannot control that. You cannot control who people are friends with. You cannot control how people feel about certain things. At the end of the day, if they fuck with you, they fuck with you. Like the end, there shouldn't be some like, oh, well, like, you can't talk to this person. This person because they are friends with someone.

[Manny Mu]

That hurt me not to switch topics, but we'll switch topics. I watched the Keke Palmer Alandra Shelley podcast.

[Laura Lee]

What did you think?

[Manny Mu]

Think? Well, one love them all. I know you do too. And I think.

[Laura Lee]

And I'm obsessed with Kiki.

[Manny Mu]

It was really cool to see both of them go on Kiki's podcast. So love that. But there was no information to share. The only thing that I took away from it is so Kiki had asked them what time were you guys waking up? Because they look tired. And they said, we didn't know.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Cuz they have no time of anything.

[Manny Mu]

They said no time. They don't even tell you what day of the week it is. Like you.

[Laura Lee]

You're like blind, dude.

[Manny Mu]

So she. They were like, we never knew what time we woke up or like how much much we slept or whatever that was.

[Laura Lee]

That seems so crazy. I feel like claustrophobic even thinking about it. It freaks me out.

[Manny Mu]

That was a takeaway. I was like, huh?

[Laura Lee]

But if that was your whole takeaway of the whole thing, baby.

[Manny Mu]

They dodged every. Like, I feel like Kiki was definitely trying to get some answers for us. They did not answer the questions. I mean, I'm not blaming them. They were very. Honey, they're PR trained.

[Laura Lee]

Well, the thing is that was.

[Manny Mu]

This round is different.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. And I also feel like because of like, that wasn't filmed like yesterday. Like that was filmed a while ago.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah. So I don't think they had seen. I mean, I don't know for sure, but I don't think they had seen the Huda.

[Laura Lee]

They didn't. Oh yeah. Yeah.

[Manny Mu]

I don't think they saw that interview. And I think they had already Done the Kiki Palmer same. I do feel like more probably would have been said. I think they are waiting for the reunion, but I think more would have been said if they had seen that and then this. But I think this was filmed before she did that.

[Laura Lee]

I do think that the. The Love island people have probably told them. They're like, do not go crazy on these interviews. Cause you're giving us the exclusives for the reunion. So you can go in and talk about some things, but you're not gonna talk about everything. So I do think that there's aspects of that on top of these fandoms who are literally battling each other constantly, where there's Team Shelly, team Hood vibes, where there's so much going on. And I think that they have to just be more careful about it because there's just. So it can literally be a stampede of people against you. And so they're kind of like, well, let's calm down. But they are PR trained. And I think that Kiki, I. I've seen clips where Kik asking questions, and it felt like they were derailing the combo to not answer what she was asking, which is literally like PR101.

[Manny Mu]

That's PR101.

[Laura Lee]

Like, you don't want to answer a question, you just essentially navigate to somewhere else. So I think that they are a.

[Manny Mu]

Really good job with that.

[Laura Lee]

But I Honestly, I do. I like what you said. Like, I loved that they went on Kiki's podcast. Like, I just love that it was like a black woman who just understood.

[Manny Mu]

Where you're coming from. That's why I liked it.

[Laura Lee]

I loved it.

[Manny Mu]

They opened it with talking about the racism that they dealt. Dealt with with being on this show, which is crazy. It is crazy.

[Laura Lee]

Like, it's insane.

[Manny Mu]

I take back to its extent. So a couple podcasts back, I was like, I don't know if Nick and Alandra are a real relationship or was it more produced? I feel like it was more produced. And I felt like that because I saw how Landry look at production, look what production did in the show. And then when she was with Nick, she seemed kind of quiet and just kind of like, not as into it. Yeah, I had no doubt that he was into her first same. I had no doubt, no doubt. And by the way, Alyndria said on the podcast, like, they have all these clips of Nick, like, making it obvious that he likes her, but she was like, it just wasn't like that. When you're in that.

[Laura Lee]

Well, you see it because we're being Shown it, and if someone's not there to see it, then how would they catch it?

[Manny Mu]

Right. So she was trying to explain, like, it was not apparent to me at all. And she said, now, just because the world wants nickelandrea together so badly, it has put a lot of pressure on, like. Like, where the relationship is at.

[Laura Lee]

Right.

[Manny Mu]

And she said Nick has talked to her, and he's like, let's just keep taking it really slow, regardless of people want us to be married.

[Laura Lee]

For sure.

[Manny Mu]

Like, we've only been together a few weeks.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mu]

So they're still just taking it slow.

[Laura Lee]

Well, that's the hard part about the season, is that the relationship didn't happen till way later.

[Manny Mu]

I know.

[Laura Lee]

Like, it didn't happen in the beginning of the summer where they had months to really, like, you know, fall for each other and last for a long time. It was, like, really kind of crazy at the end. It was so. I feel like I'm gonna cheat again for the reunion.

[Manny Mu]

After hearing her speak about it, I do feel like their connection is real. It's just not as deep because it happens so quick.

[Laura Lee]

Well, yeah, of course. It can get to a great deep spot. Absolutely. But I remember seeing another clip from Kiki, and it was about, like, Alandra. She was saying, like, how Taylor. She was like, if I would have known Taylor wasn't tracked to me, I would cut that off long ago, that.

[Manny Mu]

Stuff to, like, Ace and them. He never was talking to her about it. And then she went on to talk about how nice and, like, great Taylor is to every girl, every guy in the house. And that's what attracted her that to her so much. But she didn't see any of the other conversations, though. But it was all very interesting, very.

[Laura Lee]

Eye opening, I feel.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Like, I would have been, like, spooked, like, honestly being them. The first thing I would want to do is watch every single thing that happened.

[Manny Mu]

A lot of them hadn't watched yet because, again, this podcast was filmed, you know, really soon, as soon as they got the villa. So they hadn't seen all of it yet.

[Laura Lee]

Whenever they were doing girl, they're being for a roller coaster when they start watching. Yeah, I've seen all the casa people on Tik Tok. Like, everyone clowns them for being, like, unemployed girl.

[Manny Mu]

It's gotten so crazy.

[Laura Lee]

It's crazy.

[Manny Mu]

They had a therapist whenever they got out that they had to go speak to because they said they do that anyways. But they said the therapist told each of them that this season online is the biggest season online. And like was giving them tools to brace themselves for what they're about to walk into do. So.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I know going to a regular person to that, I literally would flip.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah, flip to be one of the most talked about people in the world. Yeah, I'd flip.

[Laura Lee]

Like, I wouldn't even know how to react. Like, how would you even react to that?

[Manny Mu]

I don't know. Like, I saw Huda's Tick tock got deleted because it got hacked. It got hacked. And then I think the person, I.

[Laura Lee]

Mean, she went on call her daddy.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

That was huge.

[Manny Mu]

And it was after that. It was after that. Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So insane.

[Manny Mu]

What else is on our toppy list?

[Laura Lee]

Ozzy just was announced, passed away this year.

[Manny Mu]

Oh my gosh.

[Laura Lee]

Ozzy Osbourne. Like, literally as we're driving here, I got the alert on freaking Apple news that was like, ozzy osbourne dead at 76. Which I find so crazy. This like rock superstore. Yes, that part, to be honest, because I know he lives hard.

[Manny Mu]

Hard, hard, hard.

[Laura Lee]

I will say in retrospect, like 76 is young. I feel young nowadays.

[Manny Mu]

I feel like that's a young time.

[Laura Lee]

To live for a healthy person.

[Manny Mu]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Manny Mu]

Six is young.

[Laura Lee]

But I don't think that he lived the healthiest lifestyle. So I think that 76 is like, oh, like. Yeah, but I. It didn't say like how it was or like, what, like what made him pass. Like, we don't know anybody.

[Manny Mu]

Breaking news.

[Laura Lee]

When we were driving, they're just broke that we're like, wait, what the Ozzy Osbourne, like, that's a name that everyone knows.

[Manny Mu]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Is a household name.

[Manny Mu]

He was Black Sabbath.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mu]

Watch me be wrong.

[Laura Lee]

I don't know.

[Manny Mu]

I like this Black Sabbath.

[Laura Lee]

I didn't listen to him. So I just remember like the Ozzy Osbourne show.

[Manny Mu]

Oh my God. So iconic. I used to watch. I remember the show much with the daughter and the brother. I forget their names.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Mu]

Sharon's icon.

[Laura Lee]

I loved Sharon.

[Manny Mu]

Ozzy Osbourne. There's someone out there older than us, is pissed off that I'm googling this.

[Laura Lee]

She's like, wow, really?

[Manny Mu]

What. What band was he in?

[Laura Lee]

I actually don't know.

[Manny Mu]

Black Sabbath.

[Laura Lee]

Black Hole, Sun. No, just kidding.

[Manny Mu]

I look at this crazy dude.

[Laura Lee]

I remember when the bat bite. Remember, like that. Do you remember that viral thing that bit the bats head off?

[Manny Mu]

Okay, so back when that happened, it was like the biggest thing ever that he bit a bat's head off. But my brother told me that they threw so many stuffed animals on, on the stage that he grabbed something, picked it up to be crazy and bit the head off. And he didn't know it was a bat.

[Laura Lee]

That really.

[Manny Mu]

I don't know if there's truth to that, but that's what I was told. Because how did you.

[Laura Lee]

That's what. That's what I was thinking too.

[Manny Mu]

I need to Google. Why did Google it?

[Laura Lee]

Because head off. I really. It honestly, like, makes me so sick. And honestly the idea of that happening, like, it really pisses me off. Like, it just seems such like animal cruelty to me. Like, I just can't.

[Manny Mu]

Okay, here we go. In 1982, I wasn't even like 1982. Crazy in Iowa, baby. What the is happening in Iowa? Someone tell us what's happening.

[Laura Lee]

I know what's happening. Happening.

[Manny Mu]

Oh, Iowans.

[Laura Lee]

Tell us what's happening.

[Manny Mu]

Bit the head up a bat that a friend, a fan, threw on stage. This was an incident and a theatrical stunt that went wrong. He often used props and rubber animals throughout his performances and he thought the bat was fake, but he quickly realized it was real. It was a 17 year old fan that threw it on stage. So there was some truth to that.

[Laura Lee]

So someone threw a bat on who was about to throw on the stage. I'm pissed.

[Manny Mu]

I'm pissed.

[Laura Lee]

I want that.

[Manny Mu]

I know they probably will. Don't worry.

[Laura Lee]

I really do.

[Manny Mu]

Don't worry.

[Laura Lee]

And. But it makes me feel better that it was an accident. That Ozzy did not need to do that for real.

[Manny Mu]

He just. For theatrical.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. Like to be crazy when it was already. Yes. Like, that makes me feel better.

[Manny Mu]

Whoopsie.

[Laura Lee]

But that really pissed me off. I remember that my dis was like way before our time. We were just like little. We weren't even in.

[Manny Mu]

No, we weren't alive, babe.

[Laura Lee]

We weren't even alive.

[Manny Mu]

We weren't alive, babe.

[Laura Lee]

Because we're just so young.

[Manny Mu]

That's why we were like born in 2000.

[Laura Lee]

So 5. Yeah, 2004.

[Manny Mu]

Me. 5 you4. I'm dead as well. Is that our last. Is that the tea of the week?

[Laura Lee]

I think so. It wasn't like, I remember we were talking. We're like, it's not going to be like a crazy episode because there's not as many things going on. More of a chill. It was more of a chill week.

[Manny Mu]

Everybody's been on their best behavior.

[Laura Lee]

Honestly. Everyone's been really good. Everyone's well behaved. Amazing thing. Well, that was crazy. The CEO was like diabolical.

[Manny Mu]

I know. Diabolical.

[Laura Lee]

That literally was like, how did this even happen, baby?

[Manny Mu]

Chris Martin Jumbo but it's still just.

[Laura Lee]

The whole idea of it. It's crazy for it to go back.

[Manny Mu]

Then as soon as it happened to Chris Martin said something like along the lines of like, I hope we didn't anything up. And then it just kept blowing.

[Laura Lee]

Well, it catapulted. It went to full vitriol. Like, honestly, it was like disaster, actually.

[Manny Mu]

That's why you don't do like that.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. So you don't cheat. How about I don't cheat?

[Manny Mu]

Anything can happen at any time. It's true.

[Laura Lee]

In this age, in this media age.

[Manny Mu]

That we live in, anything can happen at any time.

[Laura Lee]

It can be very scary and very spooky.

[Manny Mu]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Absolutely. Yeah. So. All right, well, that is it for this week of full coverage. We hope you guys enjoy.

[Laura Lee]

We love you guys so much. I thank you guys so much for tuning in. And we'll catch you guys in next week's episode, which we have a special guest that is joining us. So you guys have to stay tuned for that.

[Manny Mu]

Bye, guys.

[Laura Lee]

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