Did Jesse and Marciano Just Confirm the Rumors?

Summary

Fool Coverage with Manny MUA & Laura Lee

Episode: Did Jesse and Marciano Just Confirm the Rumors?
Release Date: June 5, 2026
Host: PodcastOne

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Episode Overview

This episode of Fool Coverage is classic Manny and Laura: glamorous, unfiltered, and brimming with both real-life reflections and reality TV tea. The best-friend beauty gurus kick off with their signature “peaks and pits” (highs and lows of the week), deep-diving into Pride Month, running marathons, and sharing behind-the-scenes of influencer life. Then, they weigh in on hot topics—the legal showdown between drag queen Pattie Gonia and outdoor brand Patagonia, reality TV rumors (especially about Jesse and Marciano), and a bit of candid gym and influencer chaos. True to form, the duo mix earnest heart with zippy humor and encourage listeners to broaden their perspective, chase their goals, and join the messy, fun world of beauty and reality TV.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Pride Month & Chosen Family

(02:45 – 09:48)

• Manny on Pride Month:
  • Expresses the importance of celebrating Pride.

    "The idea of pride is being about being proud of who you are and how you were born. So it's like expressing that in ways that people want to express it, whether it's loudly or quietly." — Manny (04:49)

  • Notes rising conservatism in corporations but finds June to be “a breath of fresh air.”
• Laura’s Perspective:
  • Grew up open-minded; always surrounded by LGBTQ friends.

    "If all my friends were just white girls that were like me from Alabama, you are missing out on some of the coolest, insightful, meaningful moments in life." — Laura (08:10)

  • Stresses the importance of broadening one's horizons and opening up to diversity.

2. Laura’s Half Marathon Journey

(09:55 – 29:02)

• Laura's Monumental Achievement:
  • Trained for six months; ran her first San Diego half marathon (with 30,000 participants).
  • Finished in about two hours.

    “I trained for this marathon. And like, I just get emotional, but it's like the pain you go through in training...I've never put my body through something like that my whole entire life.” — Laura (10:48)

  • Discusses the challenge of marathon logistics (corrals, crowded starts, infamous hills).
• Support & Community:
  • Cites energy from crowds and other runners as deeply motivating.

    "People that wake up at 6am on a Sunday to cheer marathon runners on. You're like the real MVPs. Because it really does help.” — Laura (21:12)

• Meeting Fans & Future Goals:
  • Met “full fam” listeners at the race.
  • Already signed up for her next half marathon; eyes a full one in the future.

3. Influencer Realities: Mess, Editing, and Overwhelm

(41:06 – 47:57)

• Home & Studio Chaos:
  • Laura confesses her home/studio is a disaster after a week of content-creating.

    "My house looks like a fucking bomb went off in it. Okay. Does it not?" — Laura (41:06)

• The Content Grind:
  • Both hosts detail the reality of filming and editing multiple videos daily, and feeling pressure to keep up with both personal and professional standards.

    “The hard part is accumulating everything that I've filmed, condensing it, and then posting those things throughout. Because I'm editing all the content…” — Manny (46:25)

• Efficiency Talk:
  • Laura explains why she batches cleaning vs. cleaning as she goes; more efficient for productivity.

4. Hot Topic: The Patagonia vs. Pattie Gonia Lawsuit

(48:04 – 56:58)

• Background:
  • Pattie Gonia is an outdoor-themed drag queen whose name is a spoof on the brand Patagonia.
  • Patagonia filed a $1 lawsuit (not for damages, but to prevent trademark confusion).
• Both Sides’ Arguments:
  • Manny sympathizes with Pattie Gonia, wanting to root for “the little guy.”
  • Laura, with personal business experience, understands why Patagonia must protect its trademark.

    “Trademarking matters how it sounds and likeness. So, like, if the logos look the same and how it's pronounced… I probably would have lost that lawsuit even though we didn't have the exact same brand names.” — Laura (51:59)

• Takeaways:
  • They hope for an amicable settlement (Pattie Gonia has agreed to drop the trademark application).
  • Legal systems are black-and-white; both express empathy for how hard it is for small creators.

5. Reality TV Tea: Jesse & Marciano, and More

(57:15 – 66:48)

• Jesse & Marciano “Confirming the Rumors”:
  • Manny is surprised by their openness post-divorce.

    “I will say it kind of gagged me...there was a lot of denial until it became like, okay, we did kiss, right?…I feel like it’s progressed since the divorce.” — Manny (60:00)

  • Laura says cheating is never okay, but if Jesse is happier now, she’s supportive.
• Other TV Relationships:
  • Discussion about Miranda (from “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives”) and Pepe from “Love Island.”
  • General reality TV musings and “ran through” jokes.
• Pop culture sidebars:
  • Jordan’s heavily photoshopped Food Network photo going viral for being “unrecognizable.”
  • Introduction to teen/young adult shows they love, like “Pretty Little Liars,” “Gossip Girl,” “Vampire Diaries.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Pride & Growth:

  "Owning [my sexuality] is what changed my life." — Manny (05:02)

• On Running:

  "I wanted to give this, like, everything I had in me." — Laura (16:59) "If I wasn't chewed up right now, I'd be pissed off at myself." — Laura (16:49)

• On Meeting a Listener During the Race:

  "So I hung out with a podcast. Full fam member." — Laura (25:12)

• On Getting Hit by a Garage Arm:

  "I’m walking forward...The fucking arm slams on me. The fucking garage fucking pole hits me on my head, knocks my hat off. Hits me...I’m like, oh." — Manny (31:34)

• On the Realities of Being an Influencer:

  "I'm filming the amount of content that a 20-year-old is filming right now. That's sinister." — Laura (42:32)

• On the Patagonia Lawsuit:

  "Trademarking matters how it sounds and likeness." — Laura (51:59) “Legal is black, and white is more black. It's not about emotion and...a movement. Legal is...a guarantee.” — Laura (53:58)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment Description | Start Time | |------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------| | Pride Month, Chosen Family, Broadening Horizons | 02:45 | | Laura’s Marathon Recap | 09:55 | | Meeting Listeners at the Race & Marathon Culture | 24:33 | | The Realities of Content Creation and Influencer “Mess” | 41:06 | | The Patagonia vs. Pattie Gonia Legal Situation | 48:04 | | Reality TV Gossip: Jesse & Marciano, Miranda & Pepe, Jordan etc. | 57:15 | | Pop Culture & Teen Show Favorites | 64:15 |

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Flow & Tone

• Warm, fast-paced, and witty.
• Supportive best friend energy—constantly hyping each other and their listeners.
• Candid about the highs and lows behind the glam: “We’re not trying to complain. We’re just saying what it is.”
• Promote diversity, understanding, and chasing personal milestones.
• Never afraid to get a little silly—a signature of the “Fool Coverage” brand.

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For Next Week:
Look out for a special guest: Manny’s brother, Nick. They're promising a deeper, more emotional episode about sibling differences and family dynamics.

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NOTE:
All ads, sponsors, and opening/closing non-content sections have been omitted for focus on the substance of the episode.

Transcript

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[Laura Lee]

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[Laura Lee]

I ran the half bath on bitch.

[Manny Mua]

I saw you crossing and you're like this.

[Laura Lee]

What the fuck? Welcome to your favorite podcast. It's full coverage with your host, Laura

[Manny Mua]

Lee and Manny Mua.

[Laura Lee]

Hey, hey, hey hey hey.

[Manny Mua]

What is up you guys? Happy June.

[Laura Lee]

It's fucking Friday,

[Manny Mua]

you guys. I've just been thankful for my Fridays. Oh, because you know why? Because we have some sickening Fridays.

[Laura Lee]

We have some.

[Manny Mua]

You know what? That's like, part of my fucking peak actually lined up.

[Laura Lee]

Amazing Fridays like we have.

[Manny Mua]

So today we're gonna go watch Scary Movie, the movie in theater. All of us, our whole group, so excited to see that. You know, it's so funny because I didn't grow up watching Scary Movie because I just didn't watch those movies when I was younger. And I actually got introduced because Laura showed me the first scary movie, and I loved it so much. So now I'm, like, really excited.

[Laura Lee]

And those were the foundation of my childhood, baby.

[Manny Mua]

The Founding Fathers.

[Laura Lee]

They're where I got my sense of humor. Really?

[Manny Mua]

Really?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

So then how. Why am I so funny if I didn't watch it?

[Laura Lee]

Trauma. You know what's funny, though? So the character Smokey in the scary movies, Manny always does his laugh. Do it, do it. It's like a running joke, dude. I have a running joke.

[Manny Mua]

I love it. It's just. It's so funny. No, I love the one that's like, gay but not gay.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Mua]

He's like, no, it doesn't make you look gay. And it's like his full, like.

[Laura Lee]

And they're like, no. And he's like, damn.

[Manny Mua]

Dang it.

[Laura Lee]

And then remember at the end, he's like, oh, I'm not gay.

[Manny Mua]

Why would you think that?

[Laura Lee]

It's so funny.

[Manny Mua]

I love it. They're just so funny. So I'm excited for that. But by the way, we're doing rapid fire. I know. We just got into it. You spilled again, baby. We are doing a rapid fire today, but we're just starting with peaks and pits. But I would say my peak is just, like, June, because June is Pride Month. And it's always just fun to celebrate a little bit more in June for the sake of. You know, there's like, whenever June comes around, there's a lot of posts that are, like. You know, a lot of people can get, like, sick of pride or annoyed with pride. And there's a lot of gay people, actually, that get annoyed with pride. And they're like, that's not what being gay is about, is, like, pride. Right? But the idea of pride is being about being proud of who you are and how you were born. So it's like expressing that in ways that people want to express it, whether it's loudly or quietly. And I think that it's really important to celebrate pride because a lot of people struggle with coming out, and a lot of people struggle with dealing with things in their families. And, you know, that's why a lot of gay people have their chosen families, and they might not have the best familial, you know, situations at hand. So I think it's important to celebrate pride and celebrate who you are. And I love seeing so many of you guys in my DMs and so many allies. And I'm surrounded by allies, truly, which is fantastic. But I just love celebrating Pride Month. Even if I'm not, like, you know, out and about at every single thing and doing the parade every single time, I'm just. I'm proud to be gay. And I'm like, I wouldn't have the life that I have if I wasn't gay. Yeah. Which is so crazy to think about, like, my sexuality. Owning it is what changed my life.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Like, it was not what it was before. So it's like, oh, my God. Being gay, like, kind of changed me and, like, changed my life in the positive.

[Laura Lee]

I sent Manny a picture the other day. I was in Alabama. I was like, this is my first gay friend.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, my God, it was so funny. From high school, girl? Yeah, from high school. It was so, like, it's so cool to see because I know, like, when, you know, growing up where you grew up, too, it's like, it was very intense. A lot of bullying and all that stuff like, that happened. So it's like, for someone to be, again, openly gay and proud in high school, that was.

[Laura Lee]

And I was such a kid then. Like, when you're a kid, you don't. And maybe some kids do, but I think most kids, you don't go through your life like, oh, let me see your whole life through your perspective instead of my own. Like, it doesn't run that deep. I just love gay people.

[Manny Mua]

From the job.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. From the jump. But also, I grew up in a household, in a family where we were such a disaster. Not saying gay people are a disaster, but we had no room to really be, like, you need to be this way. You have to do this. There's no structure. So it really didn't matter in my household. So I grew up just, like, with a really open heart of those things. And those things didn't matter either. You know what I mean? You don't ever go to church. That's not going to matter either. You're gay. That's not going to matter. So I always grew up, but as someone who's been a part of the gay community and ally have had gay friends basically my whole entire life, obviously a gay best friend had been a part of the gay community for 10 plus years. There are so many crazy stories that I have witnessed, heard, you know, with my gay tribe, that it just makes pride so important. It really makes pride so important. The older you get, you go, oh, my God. Like, that person must have been so isolated.

[Manny Mua]

Totally.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean? It's the isolation, especially, you know, you're a gay person living growing up in a church or a city where there aren't other gay people. That must be such an isolating experience, which that's like torture to a human being, because we're not meant to be isolated like that even here, unless it's a story like how isolating that in Brownsville, Texas. So pride is so important to me. Supporting my gay community is extremely important to me. And I just love that it's June.

[Manny Mua]

I know, Me too. I just love it. I love when the time comes around because it's like a little more extra love. And I always feel like I've been saying this, I've been talking about this. I do feel like things online and corporations are skewing more conservative and has been for the past, like, few years. And it feels like less open in ways because there's just been a lot of, you know, tumultuous energy out in the corporate world against the LGBT community due to different administrations. So it's nice that when June comes around, it does feel a little bit more celebratory than the rest of the year does, because sometimes it feels like people try to erase the gay community. They try to erase, you know, the lgbt, my queers out there. So it's nice when. When it comes down, it's like, it feels like a breath of fresh air where it's like. Like people celebrate it and it's light, the shadow, lighting.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. I will say this. If you're going through your life right now and every close person to you, person in your circle, in your life doesn't have to be family, just people day to day that's close to you. And every single one of those people are just like, encourage you to spread your wings a little because you're missing out on some of the best people and the best parts of life. I think gay people in my life are some of the best parts of my life. And, like, what a privilege to get to experience that, you know? I have a gay best friend that's from the Middle east and he's Muslim. I have gay best friends from San Diego who's Mormon. I have gay best friend who's Catholic from Mexico. Like, I have gay friends, but they also have a complete. Came from completely different backgrounds and we all to come together. And I find that to be such a privilege for me to experience the cultures and the different sexualities. And that being one of the biggest privileges of my life. So when I see people and their circle, like for instance, if all my friends were just white girls that were like me from Alabama, you are missing out on some of the coolest, insightful, meaningful moments in life. And you know, so I just encourage you to spread your wings. You don't even know. You don't know what you're missing. So listen to me, just listen to me.

[Manny Mua]

Broaden your horizons.

[Laura Lee]

Broaden your horizons. Spread your wings. And the next time someone's not just like you, not the same color as you, not the same religion as you, even an atheist, don't be so quick to turn them away. Open your heart. Come from a different perspective. And it will literally do things to your life. It'll change your life for the better, for the best, for the best.

[Manny Mua]

I agree.

[Laura Lee]

So that's sweet. Yeah. Okay. So my, you guys, I ran the half marathon.

[Manny Mua]

This is like a feat. This is to be celebrated.

[Laura Lee]

This is a feat.

[Manny Mua]

This is monumentous.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, my God. It really is. I ran the half marathon.

[Manny Mua]

I was so impressed with you.

[Laura Lee]

Thank you.

[Manny Mua]

I was so proud. I was so impressed. And I knew we were gonna do honestly. And I knew you. I felt like you were ready. Low key, like weeks.

[Laura Lee]

I was, I was, I was ready.

[Manny Mua]

Were able to like finally accomplish it and like do it.

[Laura Lee]

Dude.

[Manny Mua]

Bitch, I saw you crossing and you're like this.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, girl, I had that.

[Manny Mua]

I thought I was like, yo, get that camera out.

[Laura Lee]

Someone said, bitch, you did back camera too.

[Manny Mua]

In 054K.

[Laura Lee]

4K. I said, I know that's right. I said, try being an influencer for a day. Try it.

[Manny Mua]

Try it.

[Laura Lee]

Okay. I took notes. Cuz there's a lot I want to say about this because I have been training from this. So I trained for this half marathon from January 1st till May 31st. Because the marathon was on May 31st.

[Manny Mua]

So six months.

[Laura Lee]

Six months. I spent six months of my life. I trained for this. When I was tired, I trained for this. When I had period cramps, I trained for this one time I was sick as a dog, I still ran 11 miles. I trained for this on my worst days, my tired days, my happy days, my sad days, I trained for this marathon. And like, I just get emotional, but it's like the pain you go through in training.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. No, it's good. I think that it's like I've never

[Laura Lee]

put my body through something like that my whole entire life. Like, I'm not a fitness girl. Like, this is pathetic.

[Manny Mua]

I'm crying about it. Business girl. You are. You weren't.

[Laura Lee]

I were.

[Manny Mua]

I was.

[Laura Lee]

And I've never put myself through something like this before. And the fact that I did it is like, this is how it feels. It is a half marathon. And I cry.

[Manny Mua]

No, I think that's amazing. Also the thing is, like, imagine something that's been leading up to something. Of course you're going to cry.

[Laura Lee]

And you put so much.

[Manny Mua]

Of course. Like, it's like it's your. It's basically your body saying, holy fuck, we did it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

And so it comes out in tears. Like that's a normal reaction.

[Laura Lee]

Yep. So, guys, I'm emotional.

[Manny Mua]

You need it. Honestly, you had to. You had to cry it out.

[Laura Lee]

I have to cry it out. Okay, we'll start with this. So I took notes because there are little things I want to tell you guys because I talked to myself about it. So I ran the San Diego Half Marathon. 30, 000 people.

[Manny Mua]

Insane. And did not know it was that big.

[Laura Lee]

No, either.

[Manny Mua]

Had no clue.

[Laura Lee]

So Ty was like the rock and roll one in San Diego's like, pretty legit. Do you want to do that? Because remember, I had to move it by like two weeks.

[Manny Mua]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

I was like, perfect, let's just sign up and do it.

[Manny Mua]

Is it that one? That's the one you did?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Got it.

[Laura Lee]

And they do it every year. 30,000 runners. Youngest runner was 8. Oldest runner was 90. He ran the full. It was his first marathon and he trained for it. 90. How crazy. Finished it too. Okay. So I woke up at 4:30 in the morning. My. I ate two bananas and half a bagel. And I was. I was telling Manny I was cracking

[Manny Mua]

up because you posted what I said to you on your stories. Because I. I just knew in my bones I'm like, laura doesn't want to eat this. Oh my God. She cannot put this down right now. She's pissed. She's eating this at 4am and you know what?

[Laura Lee]

Nothing in the world could ever get me to do that. But whenever you train so hard for so long for something, you won't let those things stop you because you know you need it for fuel. And it's gonna like to do this. You have to do it. So those things are actually as tough as they are. They're some of the smallest things you'll do for yourself. You know, like getting two bananas and a bagel down at 4:30 in the morning is insane, insane business. But at the same time, it's nothing compared to what I did for this.

[Manny Mua]

Exactly.

[Laura Lee]

So whenever the time comes, you're like, I don't give a. I don't give a.

[Manny Mua]

We're doing it.

[Laura Lee]

Like, we'll do it, we'll do it. So that was really cool. I broke. I did my. I did my fastest marathon. I was a 9:16 pace. 9 minutes and 16 seconds per mile average. So I landed at 2 hours and 1 minute. But I didn't stop my watch, which is what's tracking me when I ran through the finish line. Just because I ran through the finish line and it was like a million people and they're putting in a thing on you and you're like, ah. And then I was like, oh, my watch. So I think I technically ran it two hours exactly.

[Manny Mua]

Flat. Love that.

[Laura Lee]

Which was incredible.

[Manny Mua]

That was your goal too.

[Laura Lee]

That was my goal. To do a half marathon in two hours. Here's the thing, something I did. So this is my first marathon. So I don't know how they work. And this was a bigger one because it was 30,000 people. So it's called a coral and that's your pace and their corral. And so they. It was like one through probably 29 or 30 corrals.

[Manny Mua]

Okay.

[Laura Lee]

So there's a bunch of different ton groups. So ton of different groups. So I took the corral serious. And I didn't know that like in marathons like this, they don't care.

[Manny Mua]

Okay.

[Laura Lee]

So I jumped in my corral number. But then I noticed everybody beside me was like all different numbers. And I was like, oh, this marathon, like they're not serious about the corral. So I ended up like towards the back of 30,000 people starting. So the first two miles was shoulder to shoulder running. I could not get my pace up because I couldn't get around people. And in mile one and two, you have the most energy to blow it out. And I just, I was at a 9:40 pace. I kept looking at my watch, I was like, I couldn't get around people. Was just way too crowded. So some other marathon runners gave me a bunch of tips on how to avoid that next time. They were like, you'll totally blow it out. Because I think I could have done like an 8:55 pace per mile average. But I kept getting slowed down.

[Manny Mua]

Your highest, I think.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Oh yeah.

[Manny Mua]

That would have been my highest Excitement adds to your Speed, in a way.

[Laura Lee]

Let me just tell you something.

[Manny Mua]

You like that?

[Laura Lee]

Like, it's an experience that came and describe. It's nothing. Running a marathon is nothing like going and running by yourself. It is nothing.

[Manny Mua]

Like energy around you is like lifting your.

[Laura Lee]

Imagine 30,000 people were all doing this hard thing and everyone's like, yeah, you ain't stopping. You ain't slowing down. Like, it's crazy. Yeah. Everybody is like, I don't know, it's such a cool ass experience. So I did a lot of like jumping out to like run outside the cones to get around people. A lot of the faster runners were doing that and I would just do it behind them. So I was able to pick up a little speed. But okay, so the San Diego marathon, everybody keeps talking about, hey, at mile 10, there's a crazy hill. And they kept saying it and I was like, I didn't know that when I signed up. You know what I mean?

[Manny Mua]

They're like, there's this so hilly though. It's like mountainous.

[Laura Lee]

It is. So the whole marathon was actually. There's a big portion of in the middle that wasn't hilly. But whenever you're completely depleted at the end, girl, you hit the hills. And I'm talking about crazy hills. So. So at first, so we went up some hills, I was like, that must have been it. And then I saw this, like, this hill and I was like, oh, my God, that's the fucking hill everybody's talking about. And the only thing that sucked about the hills was it slows everybody down. So it was hard for me to get around people because it's like hitting a brick wall. Because everybody just kind of like starts walking the hill. And I'm like, no, bitch, I trained for this. I'm running this hill. So it was hard to get around people. But I did run the whole hill. No stops, just busted right through. It blisters on all my toes. Every single part of my legs are tore up. I have shin splints, I have calf pain, I have hip pain, I have hamstring pain, I have glute pain. But if I did it, I'd be pissed the fuck off. I'm going to tell you that, right?

[Manny Mua]

Because you like kind of went all out for it.

[Laura Lee]

And I wasn't chewed up. This is Tuesday. I ran it on Sunday. If I wasn't chewed up right now, I'd be pissed off at myself.

[Manny Mua]

Right? It's like, girl, then you need to run it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. You know, you didn't give it your own. I wanted to give this, like, everything I had in me. And I feel like the only thing it held me back, it was just a little too crowded.

[Manny Mua]

Totally.

[Laura Lee]

So I couldn't.

[Manny Mua]

And that's not even like on you. That's just, like, situational.

[Laura Lee]

He was situational, which. That's like doing marathons and learning.

[Manny Mua]

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[Manny Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Manny Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Laura Lee]

oh Ty ran around the city so he can meet me up. Mile 10 it's so special. By the way, people that cheer you on a marathon, it helps runners more than you think it does. Even if they're not looking at you. Even if they're not, like tapping your signs and like giving you a high five. I promise you people that wake up at 6am on a Sunday to cheer marathon runners on. You're like the real MVPs. Because it really does help. It helps runners.

[Manny Mua]

Does it help kind of the hype building?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. The moment it helps the moment it helps so much.

[Manny Mua]

I love that.

[Laura Lee]

It's incredible.

[Manny Mua]

I always wondered like too like if that made a difference.

[Laura Lee]

Huge, huge difference. It's like, so if you do that, just know you're Making a huge difference in 30,000.

[Manny Mua]

You're an angel.

[Laura Lee]

You're an angel. Literally, you really are. Mile 11. So since mile 10 was, like, up uphill, almost the entire mile 11 was all downhill. And you might be like, that's true.

[Manny Mua]

I think that might worse. Actually. Going down is worse for, like, your shins.

[Laura Lee]

It takes so much tightness and strength because you have to trot downhill so you don't your body up or blow a knee out and get injured. It's a trot. But you also want to keep your pace, so you want to trot quickly, and it ignites parts of your body and abs that you didn't even know and everything that you don't even know you have. I had blisters everywhere. And by the way, I wore the shoes and socks I've done all my runs in, and it was the hills. It's crazy. Which I loved. I trust me, those blisters had nothing on me. And, yeah, running through the. Oh. And then I remember getting really upset at mile 11 because it was almost over. Whenever we were on my 11, I saw, like, that my watch just kept moving so quickly through the times. I was like. I almost started to cry because I was like, this is it. This is, like my last two miles. I did all this for six months and then two hours. Just two hours of a day. It's over. It's done. I was so sad. Like, I was like, this hurt, you know, But I was like, this is it. And I was, like, so happy to go to the finish line, but also, like, kind of sad.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, of course. Because it's like a finality in a way. It's like. Yeah, it's like a. You. When you reach that goal, it's the happiest thing ever, but you reach the goal. So then it's like, well, what's my next goal?

[Laura Lee]

So almost, in a way.

[Manny Mua]

But this is also why marathon people love doing marathons, because then it's the next one that they have. Like, okay, I just did this marathon. Now I have another marathon to, like, look forward to. So it's almost like you move the goalpost for yourself. Because we're human, and we want to better ourselves constantly.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. So would you.

[Manny Mua]

Would you ever do another marathon? Would you ever play doing another one?

[Laura Lee]

Signed up October 24th, baby.

[Manny Mua]

Full or half?

[Laura Lee]

Half.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

I talked to some of marathon friends, so I'm gonna train, train, train, train, train for this next one so hard you guys don't even know. I'm giving myself two weeks off. I'm gonna do like a two mile run, a three mile run for a bit. We're having fun.

[Manny Mua]

Totally.

[Laura Lee]

And then after, I'm gonna blow it out for this next, God willing with, you know, God willing I can seriously. In October, I plan on like going hardcore. It's another half marathon. I'm gonna work my way to a full eventually and then I'm gonna start doing half marathons for fun.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, more like fun for fun instead

[Laura Lee]

of like a competition with myself and I mean because now you're able to do it because half the people out there are dead ass serious and they're working for something. And the other half, people out there, like whenever we went through the neighborhood, everybody was getting drunk as. Yeah, just like jello shots. They would give you vodka shots. They even had be little shot glasses. And those tables were like packed with people lined up to get their shots of alcohol. Like it is a full party. Yeah. So like people out there having fun. If I wasn't to the back, I wouldn't have seen that as much. There were drag queens performing. Yes. The whole thing. So, you know, a lot of people are out there for fun. And I want to do a marathon for fun and film it.

[Manny Mua]

Love it.

[Laura Lee]

Cuz I couldn't film this one.

[Manny Mua]

Of course you're serious for you at that, at that point.

[Laura Lee]

And then something else that was really special. So you jump in this huge pack with like 30,000 runners and I hear Laura Lee. I took a picture of a bunch of people, by the way, as I was running, some people DM me. They're like, I was scared to say hey, you look like you were working. I was. But you can always say hey to me. I will still take a picture with you. I don't give a. I was running, doing videos with people, taking pictures while we were literally running. So you can always stop me still and we'll run together. But to start the race, a girl was like, hey, I watched you forever. You know, I was chatting her up a little bit. She was full fam.

[Manny Mua]

No.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. And we hung out the whole time until it was time for us to race. So I hung out with a podcast. Full fam member.

[Manny Mua]

I love that.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. How cool is that?

[Manny Mua]

That is so sweet. Oh my God, I hope she hears this.

[Laura Lee]

I do too. And her friend had ran this one before. So her friend gave me the lowdown on everything I was about to experience, which was kind of nice. No. Yeah. No. She was like, okay, there's a, there's, there's, there's this. And then I call Karen and Kara's like, what about the hill? I was like, you too? She was like, there's a hill, so. And a lot of people hit me up and they were like, I commend you on making San Diego your first half.

[Manny Mua]

And I was like, is it because it's a harder one?

[Laura Lee]

It's a hard one. But I didn't know.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, of course. You're like, I should get one. I gotta cancel my last one. I'm getting one.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. But I'm so proud because, like, I worked for a challenging marathon.

[Manny Mua]

Right?

[Laura Lee]

I worked for a challenging marathon and that's what I wanted.

[Manny Mua]

And you're able to do it.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Better than, like, even if you had, like a hairline, even here, like, 100%. You ate it up.

[Laura Lee]

100%. So I had a 170 heart rate the entire time.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, it was up there, bitch.

[Laura Lee]

170 for two hours straight. Yeah. Busted.

[Manny Mua]

Like, pumping blood through the veins like this.

[Laura Lee]

I just didn't even care.

[Manny Mua]

Of course not. The jaws of the adrenaline. It's the adrenaline plus the people. Like you were saying, the crowd.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

All that stuff adds to you even getting faster.

[Laura Lee]

And you're watching people, like, bust their ass out there. You're. I'm gonna do it too. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's so many runners who are soaked. You can tell they're breathing so hard and, like, fighting for it. And like, that's inspiring, you know, whenever you're running. Beside that. Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

I love that. I'm so proud of you.

[Laura Lee]

I'm so glad you did. One of the best experience of my life.

[Manny Mua]

You'll never forget that.

[Laura Lee]

Like, I get emotional, but I'll never forget it.

[Manny Mua]

I love it. I love. That was your first one.

[Laura Lee]

I know.

[Manny Mua]

And like, not. And like the first of many, truly, like, that's something that could be like. It's like a passion of yours. It's become a passion. So it's like, until the world really. Yeah, literally. And also that's like, dude, I'm telling you, running, that's gonna give you a life forever.

[Laura Lee]

It will. It will.

[Manny Mua]

Like, cardiovascular, babe. Will keep you alive for and movie next level, which I'm like, very impressed. It's very superwoman of you. It's like, very, very impressive. So I can't even run three miles, so.

[Laura Lee]

Listen, most people don't.

[Manny Mua]

I know. That's why. That's why it's, like, so impressive.

[Laura Lee]

I think we should all do a 5k together. It's three miles.

[Manny Mua]

I think we should too.

[Laura Lee]

You can walk some of it too. Like, you don't have to. Yes, it's for the experience. You do not have to run a full marathon. You can walk some of it. So if we did a 3k or

[Manny Mua]

like you're saying a 5k, if it's only three, not only three miles, which is a lot.

[Laura Lee]

But it's a lot. It's a lot.

[Manny Mua]

But again, in that situation, the energy, like everything is getting you.

[Laura Lee]

It's different.

[Manny Mua]

It's not like you're just like, let's run three miles right now. I'm like, I don't want to.

[Laura Lee]

To. Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

You know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

That experience, it's the experience worth it.

[Manny Mua]

Like Nick was saying, like, he literally was like, he had friends doing marathons that like never even ran. Because it's the experience.

[Laura Lee]

People want the experience. You know, they're like, humans are so lazy. I'm like, are they? Because it was this many people. We started at 6am was the marathon. So everybody's up at 4, 4:30 in the morning and it's 30,000. So you can get 30,000 people like that to get up at 4:30 in the morning and go run. I don't think humans are that lazy. Now, granted, 1% of Earth marathon runners.

[Manny Mua]

1.

[Laura Lee]

It's like 0.1.

[Manny Mua]

I was gonna say 1 is a lot.

[Laura Lee]

No, it's like 0.1.

[Manny Mua]

That makes. That makes more sense.

[Laura Lee]

Have ever ran a marathon? So I will say, I guess not. It seems like a lot of people do it though.

[Manny Mua]

I mean, you're also gonna crowd of people.

[Laura Lee]

Also. California has a massive running community.

[Manny Mua]

I mean, it's California.

[Laura Lee]

California is like the runner nation, man.

[Manny Mua]

Like, how do you not run in this weather?

[Laura Lee]

That's why I think that's why is the weather.

[Manny Mua]

Absolutely. It's like the perfect running altitude. Perfect because it's like we're at ground level or sea level and the weather, it's like, how can you not the weather, you know?

[Laura Lee]

Amazing.

[Manny Mua]

Love it.

[Laura Lee]

Yep. Best day ever. Best fucking day ever. My next marathon, I'm jumping in a faster corral and I'm gonna tear it up, bitch.

[Manny Mua]

Yes, I'm tear it up. And it's gonna be for fun too.

[Laura Lee]

I'm gonna do it eventually for fun. Not my next one.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, not your next one. So you'll do it eventually for fun?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I just have something I want to accomplish first and then I'm gonna have a good ass time after that.

[Manny Mua]

Once you get your like accomplishment down.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Love it. I love it. What's my pet. Oh, my pit. So, so embarrassing. Dude.

[Laura Lee]

I love this story so much, you guys.

[Manny Mua]

So I. I posted, actually, on my stories. I was like, bro, why does this embarrassing shit fucking happened to me? Let me tell the story. So I'm at the gym, I'm working out, and the fucking fire alarm goes off. The entire. Not just the gym, the entire building fire alarm goes off through the whole space. I'm talking, like, our gym. And it wasn't like a. Oh, it's like a drill. I thought it was a drill. People come up and they're like, everyone needs to get out right now. Like, it's like a hurry. Like, get the out. Like, there's a fire in the building. Not necessarily a fire in the gym, but there's a fire in the building.

[Laura Lee]

The gym's attached.

[Manny Mua]

Everyone get out now. Like, they weren't. This is not a drill. Like, you have to go. So everyone's, like, flooding out, and I'm like, holy. Like, I'm kind of, like, freaked out right at this point. Everyone's flooding out. I just got, like, two workouts in. I was so annoyed because I was like, I didn't get to work out. So I'm like, on my phone, I'm texting you. You caused this. So I'm texting you. And so, you know, like, when you're going through a parking garage, there's, like, that little bar. Bar that goes up and down that kind of does this thing right? Where it's like a little.

[Laura Lee]

You, like, pull a ticket, and the bar lifts for your car to come through, and it closes behind you for the next person to pull that.

[Manny Mua]

So I'm walking through. Like, I'm walking towards my car. Obviously, there's a gazillion people around me because we're all flooding to our cars at this point. And I'm wearing.

[Laura Lee]

Just gonna go home.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. Because I was like, yeah, okay. Well, I'm not gonna wait and just, like, wait outside. Just like when they let me back into the gym. So. So I'm walking in, and I have a hat on. Okay. That adds to the story, because now I understand. I'm like. That's why I didn't see right above me, because I have a hat that's covering my line of sight. So I'm walking through, and a car is coming out, but I'm not paying attention, right. I'm on my phone because I'm, like, literally texting. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I'm literally getting kicked out of the fucking Gym right now. Like, this is fucking crazy. I'm walking forward, you guys, in front of everyone. The fucking arm slams on me. The fucking garage fucking pole hits me on my head, knocks my hat off. Hits me in my cloud. Go. I'm like, oh.

[Laura Lee]

Like, knocks Manny down.

[Manny Mua]

Knocks me fucking down.

[Laura Lee]

Everybody's out there, by the way.

[Manny Mua]

Everyone's outside. Everyone's behind me. And you're.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, it was me. Imagine.

[Manny Mua]

I'm like, oh, shit. I'm like, laura, why you're here? And I literally. Like, of course. I get. I'm like. I literally refresh my. I'm like, oh. Oh, fuck.

[Laura Lee]

You try. Like, nothing happened.

[Manny Mua]

I act like nothing happened to me. I pick up my hat. Cause of course my hair's like, me under my hat. I literally am bruised here, you guys, from it going down and hitting me like this. Could you imagine getting hit by a garage door? Girl, that thing is fierce, and it's intense.

[Laura Lee]

I love that it knocked your hat off your head.

[Manny Mua]

That was the worst part. How embarrassed.

[Laura Lee]

I'll pierce the bruise.

[Manny Mua]

I'll keep the bruise. I'll keep knocking over the hat coming off. That was nasty work. So, you guys, I'm literally. There's 50 people behind me, and I'm not paying attention, and the garage thing hits me, and I go down. Tragic, mind you. And I'm not, like, a follower. Like, I'm not, like, a clumsy person that got me together. And of course, I act like nothing ever happened. I was like, oh, my God. Like, what the. Like, ain't nothing. Like, I'm good, but I know.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, I know. You try to play it off.

[Manny Mua]

I had, like, headphones in, and I still heard, like, oh. And I'm like, I don't think I could ever go back to that gym. Like, I just think that I can't.

[Laura Lee]

It's a rap, babe.

[Manny Mua]

Ever again.

[Laura Lee]

It's a rap.

[Manny Mua]

Was that the guy that walked through the pole and hit it going in?

[Laura Lee]

Chopped.

[Manny Mua]

And I realized, because I was like, why? How did I. Yes, I was on my phone, but you have peripheral vision. You can, like, see around, but with the hat on. I didn't see above me to, like, act that it was coming down to chop me. I got chopped, bro.

[Laura Lee]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Manny Mua]

Laura says you would pay money to.

[Laura Lee]

I would. I was like, I want the security footage.

[Manny Mua]

No.

[Laura Lee]

Right.

[Manny Mua]

I need all that deleted and erased from any camera that I think you

[Laura Lee]

need to wrap it up here because there's another story that makes me laugh to this day where Manny gets caught up, but he commits, he commits to

[Manny Mua]

the bit I committed to the lying bit. Unfortunately, there was this one moment that I was at this gym and again, you take a little thingy from the, the garage and you keep your ticket and then you get it validated and then you leave, right? So I had lost my ticket. Mind you, I never lose my ticket. I always keep it in my left pocket. It's just like very much, I'm very good about my tickets, but the tickets are literally like, they're like a card. It's like a little piece of paper that's like, yep, a whisk. Tiny little wisp, little whisky. So I guess when I was working out, it just like come out, came out of my pocket. So I was like, dude. So then I was like, okay. I always see people that can like click the button and like talk and then like they get through, right? So there must be like some type of situation, right? So I get to the front and I'm like, I'm not. Oh, get this. It was $32 to leave.

[Laura Lee]

Damn.

[Manny Mua]

Without the ticket.

[Laura Lee]

So if you lose your ticket, you lose your ticket.

[Manny Mua]

It was, it was. That actually was, I think 36. It was like, well, I was like, I'm not paying $36. I was here for an hour. Like, I'm not doing that. Right? So then I was like, I'll just click and be like, oh my God. Like the machine ate my ticket. I don't know why it's not working. So I put them thing in, I click the button. I'm like, hey, I'm sorry. Like the machine in my ticket, like, I don't know what happened. Like, it won't open. A man comes out.

[Laura Lee]

Oh.

[Manny Mua]

And goes up to the thing. It was like, hey, what's wrong? And I was like, oh. Like, the machine, like, it, like, stopped working. It, like, didn't. It took my ticket, and it never came back out. He opens the machine, he goes. He, like, puts his thing in. He's like, there's no ticket in here.

[Laura Lee]

The machine's empty.

[Manny Mua]

The machine's empty. There's no ticket here. And I was like, I put it in there. I don't know what you're talking about. So. Because I'm so committed to the. At this point.

[Laura Lee]

I mean, you straight up told the man you put a ticket.

[Manny Mua]

I told him I put a ticket in.

[Laura Lee]

Are you gonna be like,

[Manny Mua]

no, I'm committed. I was like, well, I don't know what happened to the ticket. And we're literally in a standoff.

[Laura Lee]

He's, like, eye to eye.

[Manny Mua]

Like, he's like this.

[Laura Lee]

But there's no ticket in the machine.

[Manny Mua]

But there's no ticket here. And I was like, but I put it in.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, I know. You pinched that nose.

[Manny Mua]

I did. No. And listen, I'm not the type of person that like, like, does this. Like, I'm not committing to the bit. I'm never, like, lying. Right. I'm perfect. You know that. I would never do such a thing. So I was like, I don't know. In those moments, I don't know how to act. Like, I'm literally like, I don't, like, really do this.

[Laura Lee]

You can't get out of the line. It's too far.

[Manny Mua]

I was too far. I was too far gone. And I wasn't paying $36 now, so I was really like, I don't know what happened to. I just. He's like, it's on here, though. But I put it in.

[Laura Lee]

That's amazing.

[Manny Mua]

Of course. I was like, but I put the ticket in. That's so weird. So of course I go into the. That's so strange. Like, I don't know what could have happened to it.

[Laura Lee]

You gave him the Melania.

[Manny Mua]

Don't know what happened to it. If I put it in there.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, I'm so fucking deaf.

[Manny Mua]

He's like, next time you lose your ticket, you should just, like, go in and get a new one or just pay for it.

[Laura Lee]

Just pay for it, babe.

[Manny Mua]

Thank you.

[Laura Lee]

So he let you go?

[Manny Mua]

He let me go.

[Laura Lee]

He knew you were lying.

[Manny Mua]

He knew I was just telling you, bitch. Cause I was not. I'm just not a good liar. In that situation. I'm just not good in that situation.

[Laura Lee]

Girl, that's crazy, though. You know what I mean? Cause I would have committed to the bid, too.

[Manny Mua]

See, the thing is also already committed. How am I gonna get out?

[Laura Lee]

Very, very real with you. I would have easily paid the $36 because I am the type of person who doesn't want to talk to anyone.

[Manny Mua]

I know.

[Laura Lee]

I'll give you $50 if I don't have to talk to you right here, right now. If you.

[Manny Mua]

You know what it was Principal can wait.

[Laura Lee]

It was. It was.

[Manny Mua]

I was upset. It was because I never lose my ticket and I never pay for it. And the day that I do, I get a guy coming out, I'm mad. $36 for one hour. Fuck you.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, yeah. Fuck off.

[Manny Mua]

That's how I felt. I'm like, no, it's Howie Robbery. You're sitting. I'm not paying this. It was almost like the principle of me having to pay. I was like, I'm not paying that.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, that's.

[Manny Mua]

And I lost my ticket. Yeah, the machine ate it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Really? Because it's not here. Yeah, it was. It. Wait. I'm not kidding you. For like a minute straight.

[Laura Lee]

And that's like torture a long time.

[Manny Mua]

I'll never forget that. And you love to bring.

[Laura Lee]

That is my favorite story. It's one of my favorite stories. You getting caught and committing. It's so.

[Manny Mua]

And still committing. Committing to the lie is sick. It's. But I couldn't. I couldn't avoid it.

[Laura Lee]

Funny to me. It's nasty, nasty, nasty.

[Manny Mua]

What's your pit?

[Laura Lee]

I don't know, Laura. Okay, listen, this is a lame ass pit, but I put this on close friends so you can confirm. My house looks like a fucking bomb went off in it. Okay. Does it not?

[Manny Mua]

I can't confirm because I did see on Close Friends.

[Laura Lee]

Like, I showed my filming studio. You can't even sit, like. Like, it's insane. And what it is, is it's like two weeks worth of work and get readies and TikToks and YouTube videos. You guys have no idea how much

[Manny Mua]

shit and product probably being an influencer for.

[Laura Lee]

It's so hard. You guys are like, shut that.

[Manny Mua]

Like, shut the fuck up. But it is looking.

[Laura Lee]

It is brutal. Mine, it's brutal, okay? The amount of influencers that DM me on Close friends and go, oh, so we're all the same. Literally. I know this sounds corny, but it made me feel better.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, really?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, it actually did you not think

[Manny Mua]

that everyone had the same Kind of situation.

[Laura Lee]

Because I don't think anyone else films as much content as me. And you.

[Manny Mua]

And you.

[Laura Lee]

You film like a very similar amount as me.

[Manny Mua]

So you still do more than me.

[Laura Lee]

I feel a lot.

[Manny Mua]

We're definitely like.

[Laura Lee]

That's the only reason. Because I feel like like a lot of people in my close friends are more so like OGs. Yeah. Maybe aren't uploading every day. And that's okay. Do whatever you want to do. That's your platform. But like I'm still filming YouTube videos.

[Manny Mua]

Totally.

[Laura Lee]

And you are too. And like I'm doing a whole ass podcast. I'm doing a tick tock every single day.

[Manny Mua]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

I'm doing. You know what I mean? Like I'm filming a. I'm filming amount of content that a 20 year old is filming right now.

[Manny Mua]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

That's sinister.

[Manny Mua]

I want you to film no 6 tick tocks a day.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, that's literally what the kids do. But see, they don't do YouTube videos. So if you add up all the shit we do, girl, I don't know

[Manny Mua]

how these kids do it.

[Laura Lee]

I know. Well, I do because we used to do it.

[Manny Mua]

That's true.

[Laura Lee]

But you know, but the thing is we haven't tapered just put it in different places like podcasts and YouTube video. We're still doing it all. So it's a lot. I'm not trying to complain. All I'm saying is my is, yeah, the time. So I always on the weekend. So I just let it on Monday I start and I just let get wrecked. And I know I'm a Virgo and you would think it's all perfect. I know where everything is. That's why I don't have like an assistant come in and just go put everything away because it would be a disaster from there, you know, Like I'll never find anything again.

[Manny Mua]

The thing is for you, it's like, like I'll just do it myself.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. I'm very that coded. Very that coded. So on the weekend I just. It honestly takes me less than an hour. Boom. Once over. Boom, boom, boom. I put it all away, clean it up, vacuum done. Easy wipe down the counters. It's literally probably takes me 45 minutes.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So I do it every single weekend. But I was gone this weekend and it was just like the busiest week. And then look Monday filmed three videos today, entire podcast plus videos I filmed this morning there. So to. It's literally gonna be swimming in.

[Manny Mua]

Oh. It's like. I just know it's a disaster.

[Laura Lee]

It is nuts.

[Manny Mua]

Like It's.

[Laura Lee]

It's like worse than like the worst dirty bedroom you've ever seen.

[Manny Mua]

100.

[Laura Lee]

And it's like nasty. There's like protein shakes and like cups with half Dr. Pepper and water bottles. Yes.

[Manny Mua]

Waters and yes. Just bull. I have on my desk, you guys. It's constantly mine, my desk. I have an assistant who does come in and help me with like, random things, but she does clear my desk Monday, Wednesday, Friday. So I gotta have clearing in some

[Laura Lee]

mine Just piles and builds.

[Manny Mua]

But you're just piles and builds. So it's like min. Probably pile and build if I wasn't doing it every other day, you know, or some. Somehow it wasn't getting done every single day. But it like, it's funny because I'm. I bet like a lot of our girlies out there who are glam girlies, you know exactly what we're talking about. Because I'm sure when you're doing your glam, like, let's say if you're sitting at your desk or you're glamming, if you have a vanity or whatever it might be in your bathroom, that shit's. And I know it. Like, I know your is all over the place.

[Laura Lee]

Yep. It's fucked.

[Manny Mua]

Because it just. Like, that's just how it works.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Manny Mua]

That's just how glam is. There's too many steps.

[Laura Lee]

There's too many steps.

[Manny Mua]

So you have so many products to do.

[Laura Lee]

Also, being efficient, this coming from a Virgo, but like Amazon, in the work world, they consider being more efficient is not doing multiple things at the same time. So people will be like, why don't you put it away as you go? That's technically not being efficient. To be efficient, you should do what you're doing and then when you're done, put it all away at the same time. Like as in, like, we're cleaning now. That's technically a more efficient way to

[Manny Mua]

do things because it takes longer to take. The longer as you're doing this, you're gonna.

[Laura Lee]

Because you're stopping, you're putting away, you're going. So that's technically not an efficient way to work. Like on businesses. That's why they have assembly lines where you do one repetitively. Instead of this part, then that part. This part. Yeah, that's why. Because that's technically the most efficient way to work.

[Manny Mua]

I didn't even know that was like, really?

[Laura Lee]

It's a whole thing.

[Manny Mua]

But it makes sense. I mean, logically, it totally makes sense. Think of it as like a efficiency, like spectrum. You know what I mean there's an

[Laura Lee]

efficiency spectrum and to do just hone in focus on what you're doing. Hone in focus on cleaning it. That's the more efficient route.

[Manny Mua]

I love that. I still want to clean it.

[Laura Lee]

I know that's where I. That's why I actually like cleaning it. I don't like filming. I like cleaning.

[Manny Mua]

I would literally do. Okay, do what's my thing, Laura. I could film six videos in a row.

[Laura Lee]

Editing.

[Manny Mua]

Editing.

[Laura Lee]

Laura, you know what?

[Manny Mua]

So what I try to do is I try to film 3 to 4 per sit down sesh.

[Laura Lee]

That's a lot, Minnie.

[Manny Mua]

I know.

[Laura Lee]

I can only do 3 max for short form.

[Manny Mua]

I've only ever done 4 when it's like a voiceover.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, okay. It's hard though for tea, that energy going.

[Manny Mua]

But it's hard to get the energy going. So like I'll do like let's say too long form, like talking too short. But I'm trying to do like the four in one sitting so I can film those things.

[Progressive Commercial Announcer]

Things.

[Manny Mua]

The hard part is accumulating everything that I've filmed, condensing it and then posting those things throughout. Because I'm editing all the content because I. Oh, I. And I know you do too edit all of our own short form content. So it's like that's kind of a lot.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Also I like did the math. So this morning I edited. By the way, we're not trying to complain. We're just staying what it is. We're just saying what it is. This is us just yapping. We're not like there's really trying to get anyone to feel bad for us. We're fine. But I edited two tick tock reels this morning and took me two hours. That's two hours of editing.

[Manny Mua]

That's not including.

[Laura Lee]

Way less time to film it though. Yeah, but not even including the filming. So filming way editing is the pits of hell.

[Manny Mua]

That's how I feel too. I edited one this morning as well. Took an hour, but I was adding one from the ones I did yesterday. So I was trying to like. And mind you, you, today's too busy of a day. I can't even post it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

So I'm like waiting again to accumulate for like tomorrow. So it's like a lot. It's just like a. It's just a cascading thing Again, very privileged, very great job. Like we're so lucky to have this job. It's just like more about time management because when you work for yourself, you have to kind of do Everything. And it's about managing what you're doing. And I think that's the part that you're like, oh, like, I have to make sure you're hitting, like, all your little ducks. You know what I'm saying?

[Laura Lee]

Sometimes there's a lot of ducks, and

[Manny Mua]

sometimes there's a lot of ducks. Especially when you're doing. When you're an entrepreneur, there's a lot of duck. Always.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Manny Mua]

You know, when you work for yourself, you want to do things that have a range of things. So it's like, of course we're going to have. We have every platform, not just one.

[Laura Lee]

That's right.

[Manny Mua]

You know.

[Laura Lee]

That's right. So. Well, we have some topics to talk to you guys about.

[Manny Mua]

Can we talk about the Patagonia? Oh, let's feel like that is like, I am seeing the Patagonia Patagonia situation all over. All over my Instagram, all over my TikTok. I'm seeing it everywhere.

[Laura Lee]

Yep. It's blown up. Absolutely.

[Manny Mua]

And it's like cr. It's crazy. I did not know. And the thing is, I didn't know, like, the ins and outs of it. So there's a drag queen named Patagonia and the brand Patagonia, so they're in, like, a actual, like, legal dispute.

[Laura Lee]

So Patagonia, the drag queen, technically, because she's like, her theme as a drag queen is outdoorsy.

[Manny Mua]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

So that was the spoof name. It was a spoof name off the brand. Patagonia. Patagonia. So I'm gonna name it. That's what drag queens do. And the brand knows, like, the brand was fine with that. And they don't care. They're like, your name's Patty Gagne. Because it's been her name for years.

[Manny Mua]

Right, Patty?

[Laura Lee]

There's nothing been coming of it. However, she made merch and then wanted to start trademarking. And that is whenever the brand stepped in and hit her with a $1 lawsuit. But they're not suing her. It's a $1 lawsuit because they're not suing her for money. They're. They don't want her to be able to trademark the name because they have a trademark brand name, Patagonia 100.

[Manny Mua]

And it's so funny. So I watched her video first, and I just felt for her because I was like, the corporation. I'm so much like, I'm that person where I'm like, no, I believe in the little guy. You know, Like, I'm just how I feel instinctively watching it. And I'm like, They're trying to silence her. Like, that was just my immediate first impression. And then I saw the Patagonia response, and once I understood, like, the trademarking situation, I was kind of like, bug, like, you almost, like, see both sides. Yeah, in a way, because I feel for patients wanting to, you know, be a queen who's out there and, like, you know, I love the fact that she's about the outdoors and, like, you know, raising money and, like, campaigning for people to go doors and, like, save the wilderness at this point, you know, And I think that's something that's so needed. But then I also really believe in the fact that in the legal cases of trademarking and, you know, as people

[Laura Lee]

we know with brands, I know, like,

[Manny Mua]

as a brand, I was like, you. You cannot have. Have brands infringing on your brand, because then what's the point of going through the legal.

[Laura Lee]

Opens the door for. So I don't think they think. I think. I don't think Patagonia thinks Patagonia is gonna overhaul the brand. Patagonia. I think the point for them is, is like, we can't just let you do it. You know what I mean? Because what that does is open the door for anyone else to do it, and that is going to cause a problem for Patagonia.

[Manny Mua]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

So we have to stop it here. And from what I understand, it seemed like the problem was, was when she tried to trademark it also, I saw, like.

[Manny Mua]

So people were talking about, like, the merch. The merch that she came out with. And I saw she came out with a sticker, or it's like a sticker. It's like a patch or something like that. And it was similar to Patagonia's.

[Laura Lee]

It's like a spoon.

[Manny Mua]

It was like. Like a queen hiking spoof. And that I felt like was really close to the Patagonia thing. So I'm like. I feel like that one is. Is more so infringing on, like, their branding and their trademarking and their situation. But see, the part that confused me was, like, the fact that Patagonia was trademarking when Patagonia already trademarked. And I think that's the part where it's confusing because it's like, it makes sense as the corporation to be like, well, you can't do that, because then if we let you do that, then it lets you do it. And we're a company.

[Laura Lee]

Slippery slope. It's a tricky, tricky trick.

[Manny Mua]

It is tricky.

[Laura Lee]

And this is coming from someone who got hit with a potential lawsuit myself for my business name and had to completely change my business because of it. Because of trademarking a brand that's much bigger than me had already trademarked one of the words in Nudie patootie. And I was filing for trademarking of nudie Patootie under clothing.

[Manny Mua]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

And whenever I went to make that file, that is how their legal team caught me. Which is the exact same for probably Patagonia.

[Manny Mua]

Right. Just like that.

[Laura Lee]

It popped up for them. And they were like. And then we even try to work with them. Like, we'll change. Changed the spelling. And they explained to me it does not matter how you spell something. Trademarking matters how it sounds and likeness. So, like, if the logos look the same and how it's pronounced.

[Manny Mua]

I see.

[Laura Lee]

So Patagonia's Patty Gonia. It's very close. And I probably would have lost that lawsuit even though we didn't have the exact same brand names. And I think that's what Patty Gonia is probably gonna face. So it did sound like though. And. And listen. I feel so bad. Like this. Listen, look at me. I thing it blew up my tiny business. Like, it blew my up. I had to close my business for six months and pay my employees. You know what I mean?

[Manny Mua]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

With a closed business. So that was a really tough time for us. And that's the trademarking game in America. The rules are tough. It's tough. But Patty Gonia was saying in her video that she's willing to d drop her trademarking if they can settle the lawsuit. So she's like, I want trademark it. So I'm hoping they'll be able to work it out in a settlement moment.

[Manny Mua]

100.

[Laura Lee]

I feel like of some sort like.

[Manny Mua]

I feel like that's like really the best case scenario where if she can. If they can just settle and just let it be, she won't make merch or be trademarking Patagonia or Patagonia when it's already in completely existing brand with Patagonia. You know. But I feel like I don't. I don't think that the brand is, like, trying to erase her is what I'm trying to say. I don't think that they're trying to do that. I think that they're just trying to be like, hey, like, do your thing, but do not trademark it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, exactly. That's what it is. That's what it is.

[Manny Mua]

That's what it sounds like. That's what it feels like. Because I feel like Patty made great points. And it's like, I don't. I don't want her to be race, and I don't want her to, like, feel like she can't be Patagonia, which has been her brand in the wilderness. And, like, that's been, like, for her, it's been her thing, you know, but, like, so you have to think about, like, that could be your thing to the world.

[Laura Lee]

But legal is black, and white is more black. It's not about emotion and, like. Like, empowerment and, you know, a movement. Legal is, you know, a guarantee. You pay this amount of money and that kind of stuff. So it's more black and white over there. So it gets tough.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. And I think this. I. I'm seeing people siding with Patty. I'm seeing people side with Peter.

[Laura Lee]

I've seen both.

[Manny Mua]

You know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

Mix reviews on it.

[Manny Mua]

And I think that both can be right. I think that you can be supportive of her and want her, like, to not have to deal with this, like, kind of legal situation and going through that whole thing, because it just must be so tough and so expensive.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, yeah, that's what she was saying. She was like, you gu guy is like, there's such a big company, like, the legal fees.

[Manny Mua]

She'll never.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, she would never be able to survive that. And that's where I feel so bad, so. And by the way, that's what happened to me. The company that was coming after us was so big, I would net. My lawyer was like, girl, for this tiny business. She was like, you never survive what was in court. They were like, change your brand name. They were like, that's so much cheaper than legal fees. So it really does. And I'm speaking from my own experience. This happened. This literally happened to me. So it's tough. It's tough, but it's really hard.

[Manny Mua]

And, like, what I was saying is I feel for the brand in the way of them being like, hey, like, I understand where you're coming from, but we have to protect our asset, because at the end of the day, the brand is their asset. The brand is who they are. It's their essence. And they're not saying, like, Patty, like, don't be Patagonia anymore. They're just saying, like, you can't trademark when we already own the trademark work. And don't make, you know, Mercher logos or things like that that are, like, exact, very similar spoof. I do wonder what the sell it

[Laura Lee]

and make money off of it.

[Manny Mua]

I wonder about the spoofing because I feel like when you're spoofing things, I feel like a lot of times There is like a, a work, like a little workaround when it comes to spoofs. I'm not sure how they work.

[Laura Lee]

It says Patagonia on it. I think that's the big one because it says so I think phonetically it's like phonetically they.

[Manny Mua]

So it sounds like too similar with how it looks. Looks because I know like when they. People I've seen spoofs of things and they get away with it completely fine. But they don't say what the brand is. But it's like you see a. I don't know, like a Coca Cola logo, but it's like a different logo in it.

[Laura Lee]

So what that is is whenever small businesses will do that and they don't get caught up because they didn't trademark. So if Patagonia did this and didn't trademark, she pro. I mean, I don't know that they would have even really seen it so much. But it's whenever you get that register in the US trademarking system, them that is when the ding ding, ding hits and it becomes the actual problem. So I think it's like using the name and trademarking it for merch. Yeah, that's gonna be a problem.

[Manny Mua]

To see like what it. Yeah, to see what it is to

[Laura Lee]

like turn it into an actual business. That's gonna be a problem where it's

[Manny Mua]

like, oh, but it's already a brand. Yeah, that makes sense. I just, it's like to me it's just like such a confusing like thing. It just seems like a very confusing thing. But it's like you can use, you know, likeness of things and you change it and then it becomes a different thing. I know there's like a, there's like workarounds with that. But like you said, it's trademarking the way it sounds so tough. All that kind of stuff. It's just a lot.

[Laura Lee]

I know, I feel for her cuz she's like pinned up against a wall right now.

[Manny Mua]

She's like so big a drag queen up against a multi billion dollar company.

[Laura Lee]

Pride, Mom. H. Bless her. Bless her. Well, we're hoping they can settle and work that out. Cuz I feel so bad.

[Manny Mua]

Same.

[Laura Lee]

Next up, let's talk a little bit about the Mormon wives because we have three topics because the drama just keeps brewing. So lately Pepe from Love is Blind and Miranda. Imagine Pepe on Love is Blind. Wait, Imagine Pepe on Love is Blind. Oh,

[Manny Mua]

that would be.

[Laura Lee]

That would be. I would have died, baby. I'm so sorry. Pepe from. From Love island, which starts to tonight?

[Manny Mua]

No, I think Love island. Is it not June 2nd?

[Laura Lee]

I'm not ready.

[Manny Mua]

You're gonna lock in?

[Laura Lee]

No, I'm not. Maybe I'm so behind on TV shows. Okay, I'll lock in. I think I'm gonna have to be up till one o' clock in the morning watching these. Damn.

[Manny Mua]

I could be wrong, but I think that's. It's like coming tomorrow night. It's coming.

[Laura Lee]

And Miranda, who is Chase's ex from Salt Lake. More Mormon Wives of Salt Lake.

[Manny Mua]

Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

[Laura Lee]

You mean he wants these people? What the. There's too many shouts. Oh my God.

[Manny Mua]

There's too many shows.

[Laura Lee]

Too many shows. So they were seen out on a date.

[Manny Mua]

Okay, what do we think of this? Miranda I think is too good for him. I'll be so real.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, she's too good.

[Manny Mua]

Miranda. I just feel like he's hot.

[Laura Lee]

And she probably just wants a hot daddy too.

[Manny Mua]

Great. But. And I hope that's all it is.

[Laura Lee]

And I feel like her ex, Chase is so ran through and it's hooked up with everybody. She's probably like.

[Manny Mua]

She's like, girl, I gotta go on the street. Let me get out the street too. Let me get a piece too.

[Laura Lee]

Let me get a piece piece too.

[Manny Mua]

No, honestly, I feel like she just. To me, she's. There's something about Miranda.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, I love.

[Manny Mua]

I just love her.

[Laura Lee]

I love her.

[Manny Mua]

I just love her on the show. I love her on Secret Lives. More Wives. I just love seeing her. I just love her like she has like a calm.

[Laura Lee]

She's a badass badd.

[Manny Mua]

Yes, she's calm and badass at the same time. I just don't.

[Laura Lee]

You saw. She's like a muscle mommy. You saw her in swim week.

[Manny Mua]

From swim Week. Insane.

[Laura Lee]

I always knew she was a muscle mod because like her arms, like you can see them, they're like so cut in all her shots, but like she was in a bikini and it's like insane.

[Manny Mua]

She looks insane. But they were on a date together in Florida. I think it was in Miami.

[Laura Lee]

That's. Is that where Pepe's at?

[Manny Mua]

No, but I saw that they were there. I think he was there for some week. Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, cute.

[Manny Mua]

So I think, yeah, they went on a date. Do you think that they're gonna work out? Do you think that's gonna be a date?

[Laura Lee]

No, I think Pepe might be a hoe too.

[Manny Mua]

I think so.

[Laura Lee]

I do.

[Manny Mua]

I think so too. I feel like. I feel like he could probably like

[Laura Lee]

a ran through a little ran through.

[Manny Mua]

So I Feel like when you get on that kind of show, you could become even more ran through. Because then it's like, oh, well, people. People are like, throw. Women are throwing themselves at Pepe.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean, girl?

[Manny Mua]

Men are throwing themselves at Pepe, too. I'm men.

[Laura Lee]

How do you feel? Like Marciano and Jesse, since they're kind of, like, together.

[Manny Mua]

I wouldn't get that one. I will say it kind of gagged me because of the situation that happened on the show when they were like, no, like, it didn't happen. Didn't happen. Didn't happen. Like, there was a lot of denial until it became like, okay, we did kiss, right? And then it became that. That. But then I feel like it's progressed since the divorce.

[Laura Lee]

So now people are taking a step back, and they're like, you did cheat on your husband. You were in love. And you know what?

[Manny Mua]

Him.

[Laura Lee]

Him.

[Manny Mua]

And you know what? Jesse. I love Jesse.

[Laura Lee]

I do not condone. Cheating is the thing. No matter what, I always have this theory where I'm like, you should let that person go and perform and then pursue what you want to pursue, but let the bird fly. No matter if they don't want to get a divorce or what, you should let the bird. You shouldn't keep both.

[Manny Mua]

You.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean?

[Manny Mua]

Yes. 100.

[Laura Lee]

You shouldn't try to keep both. Like, if you. If you feel like you're out of it, that's fair. But you shouldn't cheat, and you should let that person go so they can go be with someone, too.

[Manny Mua]

For sure.

[Laura Lee]

You shouldn't have your cake and eat it, too. But Jordan is a special type of man that I hate. That's my problem.

[Manny Mua]

My problem is that, you know what? It takes a real, real sick person for me to be like, yachi on him. It takes some that. It takes that kind of sickness. And honestly, he brought it out of me. Yeah, he brought it out of me.

[Laura Lee]

He can bring us back.

[Manny Mua]

And I literally was like, yeah. And honest in my mind, I'm like, he deserved it. Like, I literally. Because of how he is shown on the same thing, by the way, we're talking about secretizing more wives, and we're like, that situation. Things are getting blurred and things are. Yeah, there's so many shows happening. I'm like, there's a lot of blurs with Marciano, who's on a different show. But it's like, I really feel like when you're that kind of human, that kind of man and treats. How he treat. How he treated Jesse and We even saw, like. And I know we didn't see the darkest stuff, and we didn't. And we still saw a lot. So it's like, no, him. I am. And the thing is, for me, if Jesse's happy and that situation with Marcia, I'm happy.

[Laura Lee]

I think Marciana is obsessed with her.

[Manny Mua]

Great. And I'm like, she deserves someone to be obsessed with her.

[Laura Lee]

Someone said, I think it was the show Summer House. They said y' all would not be rooting for Marciano. Any of y' all watch Summer House? I'm like, what the this man do?

[Manny Mua]

I don't know.

[Laura Lee]

It's a big show.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, girl. Summerhouse right now. Like.

[Laura Lee]

But he was also on the Vanderpump Villa.

[Manny Mua]

That's what I thought. That's what I thought. He was from. Was Vanderpump.

[Laura Lee]

I think he might in Summer House, too, girl. Let's see Marciano.

[Manny Mua]

There's a. There is a. It's too much.

[Laura Lee]

It's too much.

[Manny Mua]

It's too much. So how much or like, what show is he on other than is he on it or not?

[Laura Lee]

Well, in the meantime, I'm going to look this up and we're going to circle back. But go ahead and talk about Jordan's Photoshop, you guys.

[Manny Mua]

So there's another situation that happened with Jordan recently where he posted a photo from. I guess it was on a show or like, a guest of, like, something on Food Network. And he posted a photo from Food Network. Right. And he posted it. And I guess it's edited to absolute hell and filth because Food Network AI the whole thing. They said, oh, aide. The whole thing.

[Laura Lee]

The whole thing.

[Manny Mua]

Food Network posted his photo, and he looked nothing like that.

[Laura Lee]

Like it.

[Manny Mua]

He literally looked like, like baby a gremlin.

[Laura Lee]

He shaved off 40 pounds, gave himself a tan, completely new hair, which that hair is not even on his head. That hair is not even there. That was a wig. I mean, he looked like a different person.

[Manny Mua]

He look a completely different.

[Laura Lee]

So he post that. And he didn't know Food Network was going to post the Raw. And baby, the Internet did is.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, they tore them the up. And he actually ended up deleting his post because it was so did.

[Laura Lee]

Girl, that's the word.

[Manny Mua]

I can't. I literally cannot. He's just so cringe to me. It just makes me sick.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, so I was wrong. He's only on Banner Punk Villa and

[Manny Mua]

probably just heard so much about Summer House that, like, came into your mind.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Mua]

Which I hear about all the time. Do we need to Watch Summer House. You guys tell us in the comments right now, do we need to watch Summer House? Because I've been hearing so much about it.

[Laura Lee]

I have to. Someone else told me to watch it too. In real life. I can't remember. Yeah, they were like, you need to watch some Summer House.

[Manny Mua]

I got told recently at a dinner by two different people to watch Summer House.

[Laura Lee]

Really?

[Manny Mua]

Yes. So I'm kind of like now I'm like, what the. So I'm curious. We're curious as us reality girlies and who like loves TV and movies, stuff like that. And we know a lot of you guys do too. What do you guys think? I got Laura to start watching off campus.

[Laura Lee]

It's really good. It's really cute. I love the storyline. I haven't watched all of it obviously, but it's really good.

[Manny Mua]

I'm obsessed.

[Laura Lee]

Aaron's addicted to. She was over when I was watching it. She's like obsessed. It's a teeny coded.

[Manny Mua]

That is like for her demo.

[Laura Lee]

Oh yeah.

[Manny Mua]

I always like find it really funny whenever I'm watching like Summer I turn pretty or shows like this. As a girl in 35 year old gay man. I was gonna say the f. Slur. I can. It's me can. I'm watching it. Of course you can. As an ally. I literally, literally love these shows.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

And it's so funny because it's just like so not like what?

[Laura Lee]

They weren't meant for us.

[Manny Mua]

We're not meant for me.

[Laura Lee]

But they work.

[Manny Mua]

But they work. And you know what it is? I think so. Sometimes I feel like growing up the way I did, I missed out on a lot of those like cutesy like shows.

[Laura Lee]

Like I watched them all and I. They make me want. It makes me want to watch them more.

[Manny Mua]

I love. See, I love that because I watch

[Laura Lee]

Pretty Little Liars like all those teeny. I was locked in like growing up. Vampire Diaries, True Blood, Gossip Girl, all of it. Oh, you watch them?

[Manny Mua]

I watch them so much later and I love them. So I think that's why like I feel like there's like a yearning for like that idea of like this like college love or like high school love. I think I like seeing it because it's never something I've ever had. So I just enjoy it, you know, it's like something I like. It's like, oh my God, that's so sweet. So I think I just. Because it fills that void of like I didn't have that.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

So it's nice to see.

[Laura Lee]

What was your favorite out of all the teeny boppers. When you were like. Or whenever you did start watching, I

[Manny Mua]

was like, number one was Gorgina Chase Crawford in Gossip Girl.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, yeah. The deep.

[Manny Mua]

He. The deep. But in Gossip Girl, he was cute. Of course.

[Laura Lee]

I watched all Gossip Girl. Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

But him, Gossip Girl, when I watched. I was literally, like. Took my breath away.

[Laura Lee]

My favorite series out of all of them. I want to say Pretty Little Liars, but it was. It was Vampire Diaries.

[Manny Mua]

I. Girl, did you watch the Originals?

[Laura Lee]

Yes. Klaus, the brother. The brother.

[Manny Mua]

Elijah.

[Laura Lee]

Elijah.

[Manny Mua]

Elijah was like, my number one of all the. Like, I know. Like, everyone's always, like, very, like, clown Elijah.

[Laura Lee]

I love.

[Manny Mua]

Elijah was my life.

[Laura Lee]

I loved Empire Diaries.

[Manny Mua]

There was nothing like. It was just Elijah and Klaus. Right. Brother wise. Is there another brother?

[Laura Lee]

Stephanie Damon. Yeah, for the original show.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. For the Originals, I was. They were so good. I just love those shows.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, Fantastic.

[Manny Mua]

Like, very. I didn't watch Teen Wolf, but I

[Laura Lee]

didn't watch that either.

[Manny Mua]

That was in that world. You know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

So good.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. I feel like that's all. That's all we had.

[Laura Lee]

That's all our topics, period. Yes.

[Manny Mua]

Very chill, very soft, very demure episode. Very chill vibes. Next. We have a guest next week. It's a very special guest, Close to My Heart, for next week.

[Laura Lee]

Tell them who.

[Manny Mua]

That's my brother. My brother's coming on.

[Laura Lee]

It's a very deep, real conversation, too. It gets really deep.

[Manny Mua]

It does get really deep. And it was. It was nice. It was actually really nice.

[Laura Lee]

You and your brother. I mean, I've been around Nick before, but y' all are so different.

[Manny Mua]

I know y' all are.

[Laura Lee]

Y' all are different.

[Manny Mua]

Like, we're such different people, but it's really crazy to see us be so close.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. Very close.

[Manny Mua]

Aaron is so different from both of us.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Mua]

Aaron is, like, complete. He's like a spectrum. Nix. A spectrum. A spectrum.

[Laura Lee]

And then Aaron, like, I think you're so different.

[Manny Mua]

I don't know. You know what? My parents very much were like, you guys be your own people kind of thing. And so, like, we all realized the same, like, don't mind if I do.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Manny Mua]

So it's like we all just.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Had different.

[Laura Lee]

Maybe my brother and sister are different exact worlds.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, you wanna talk about another triangle over here? You and your siblings are, like, worlds apart.

[Laura Lee]

Babe. You would never even know.

[Manny Mua]

You never know.

[Laura Lee]

You would never know.

[Manny Mua]

And it has. Again, it's not about your upbringing, because you guys are so different.

[Laura Lee]

You guys would be the same upbringing.

[Manny Mua]

You know what I'm saying all have the same upbringing. It's good. It's really. It was nice to have, like, real conversation about real life topics happening and things that are more fierce topics. I feel like.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. As much so, it was a great episode.

[Manny Mua]

It was a really good episode. So I'm excited for you guys to see with Nick and us get down, like, that trail, finally having, like, one of my own little family members on episodes in the pod. Because they're always like, I don't wanna film.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Manny Mua]

That was kind of nice.

[Laura Lee]

I feel like we can get your dad on next. I love your dad.

[Manny Mua]

I know. He's the best. And it would be nice.

[Laura Lee]

You guys would really find out that Manny actually is Mexican when his dad comes on.

[Manny Mua]

Correct.

[Laura Lee]

That is when you're gonna find the fuck out that this guy is really, really Mexican.

[Manny Mua]

Y' all might not believe me, but

[Laura Lee]

when the dad comes on, when you see my father. Oh, you're gonna be like, oh.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, I knew it. Oh, so you are Mexican. Yeah, literally. Literally. But my mom, too, she. She does like them both. Them both. Be the guest. I'm like, come on.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. That would be so cute.

[Manny Mua]

That'd be really cute. But it's a good episode, so I'm excited for you guys to see that. But anyway, you guys, that's it for today's episode. Hope you guys have fun watching it. Comment down below. Do we need to watch Summer House?

[Laura Lee]

Let us know yes or no.

[Manny Mua]

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