Did Mikayla Nogueira steal from a small business? Are New York influencers boring?

Summary

Fool Coverage with Manny MUA and Laura Lee Episode: Did Mikayla Nogueira Steal from a Small Business? Are New York Influencers Boring? Release Date: March 21, 2025

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Introduction to Main Topics

In this episode of Fool Coverage, hosts Manny MUA and Laura Lee delve into two pressing issues in the beauty and influencer industries: the controversy surrounding Michaela Nogueira's "POV Beauty" brand and the debate over whether New York influencers lack originality. The conversation is enriched with their personal insights, experiences, and a touch of humor, making it both informative and engaging for listeners.

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Michaela Nogueira and "POV Beauty" Trademark Controversy

The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about Michaela Nogueira's skincare line, "POV Beauty." Michaela faces allegations of copying a small Quebec-based business with the same name. Laura Lee expresses deep empathy for Michaela, stating, "I genuinely do not believe that Michaela was trying to copy that small Quebec business. It's likely an oversight in trademarking." (52:40)

Samantha MUA adds to the conversation by emphasizing the critical importance of trademarking for brand protection. She recounts her own experience, saying, "If you skip trademarking, it's only a matter of time before you can get sued for this." (54:13)

Legal Importance of Trademarking Brands

The hosts highlight how failing to trademark can leave businesses vulnerable. Manny MUA explains, "Trademarking is one of the most important steps in owning a business. It legally protects your brand and prevents others from infringing on your name or concept." (56:11)

Laura Lee echoes this sentiment, noting, "As a business owner, you have to legally protect your brand. Trademarking ensures that your hard work and passion are safeguarded." (56:55)

They discuss how trademarks are jurisdiction-specific, pointing out that Canadian trademarks do not automatically extend to the United States. Samantha MUA stresses, "If you're selling in the U.S., you need to trademark there separately." (57:53)

Personal Experiences with Trademark Issues

Samantha shares her ordeal with trademark disputes, revealing, "I ended up on the other side with a different brand that had trademarked first. It was a tough legal battle, but securing a trademark is non-negotiable for protecting your business." (58:08)

Laura Lee adds, "Without trademarking, you invite legal troubles. It's essential to take this step seriously from the outset." (58:37)

Viral Hailey Bieber and Selena Gomez Series

Shifting gears, the hosts discuss a viral seven-part series on TikTok titled "Millions," which portrays Hailey Bieber as Selena Gomez’s stalker aiming to win Justin Bieber’s affection. Laura Lee shares her frustration, "It's hard to see why this saga is still being talked about when both Selena and Justin are happily in new relationships." (70:07)

Samantha MUA critiques the narrative, stating, "They're painting the picture they want you to see to keep this women-against-women saga going because it catches so much attention." (73:19)

They express disappointment over the persistent rumors and negative portrayals, emphasizing that both celebrities have moved on and deserve peace.

Are New York Influencers Boring?

The conversation transitions to the topic of New York influencers being labeled as repetitive and unoriginal. Laura Lee reflects, "A lot of influencers in New York post similar content—matcha lattes, workouts, hair and nail routines—and it can feel monotonous." (85:18)

Samantha MUA agrees, adding, "Many content creators end up copying trends they see because they want to grow and stay relevant. It's a cycle of influencing without true originality." (90:57)

They discuss how the influencer landscape in New York can sometimes lack diversity in content, leading to perceptions of boredom. However, they also acknowledge the vast diversity within Los Angeles' influencer scene, which offers a wider variety of content.

Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Manny and Laura conclude the episode by reiterating the importance of trademarking for business owners and encouraging influencers to maintain their unique voices amidst prevalent trends. Laura Lee emphasizes, "As creators, it's vital to stay true to yourself and not just follow what everyone else is doing." (90:56)

Samantha MUA adds, "Original ideas perform the best initially, but the key is to keep evolving and innovating to stay ahead." (91:13)

The hosts leave listeners with actionable advice: protect your business legally and strive for authenticity in content creation to avoid blending into the influencer crowd.

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Notable Quotes:

• "Trademarking is one of the most important steps in owning a business. It legally protects your brand and prevents others from infringing on your name or concept." – SAMANTHA MUA (56:11)

• "Without trademarking, you invite legal troubles. It's essential to take this step seriously from the outset." – LAURA LEE (58:37)

• "They're painting the picture they want you to see to keep this women-against-women saga going because it catches so much attention." – SAMANTHA MUA (73:19)

• "A lot of influencers in New York post similar content—matcha lattes, workouts, hair and nail routines—and it can feel monotonous." – LAURA LEE (85:18)

• "Original ideas perform the best initially, but the key is to keep evolving and innovating to stay ahead." – SAMANTHA MUA (91:13)

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Conclusion

This episode of Fool Coverage provides a thorough exploration of brand protection through trademarking and critiques the repetitive nature of some influencer content, particularly in New York. Through candid discussions and personal anecdotes, Manny MUA and Laura Lee offer valuable insights for entrepreneurs and content creators alike, emphasizing the importance of legal safeguards and authenticity in the ever-evolving digital landscape.

Transcript

[Manny Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

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[Samantha Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

Bitch. When you heard the last name Lee, know the word. And I was like, bitch. I came from the tequila. What do you mean?

[Laura Lee]

Hey guys, welcome back to your favorite podcast, Full coverage with your host, Samantha Mua.

[Samantha Mua]

And I thought you were about to call yourself Samantha.

[Laura Lee]

Samantha.

[Samantha Mua]

I like your name.

[Laura Lee]

Sammy.

[Samantha Mua]

Ooh, that's your drag name. Sammy M u A. Oh. My name's Lauren Lee and we are here. And he's queer. I'm not.

[Laura Lee]

No, but you're an ally.

[Samantha Mua]

But I'm an ally with a capital A. Mm. So today's episode is going to be a rapid fire. But first we wanted to mention an exciting giveaway we have a giveaway.

[Laura Lee]

You guys going on. We're doing a little full coverage, full fam. Giveaway. Just honestly, just to say thank you to you guys and for the support and constantly just being here with us and just supporting the show. And, you know, we just love you guys so, so, so much and we really, really appreciate it. So we want to do a little giveaway. Giveaway. The details, of course, will be in the description, but we want to do. I'm going to do a nude prism collection. Three of them. We're going to have three winners.

[Samantha Mua]

So we're going to have three winners to this giveaway. We'll have the end date and all the details in the description box. But Manny is going to be giving away three of the full collections of nude Prism and I'm going to be giving away three full of the sandalwood body collections from minimal. So three winners will win, you know, both sets from each brand. Right? Okay. And then there's more. Each winner is going to win a hundred dollar gift card to Sephora. So that's, you know, two full collections. You get your makeup, you get your body products, and then you can go to Sephora and get whatever the hell.

[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

We wanted to kind of create a makeover kit, if you will, to revamp your kit. So how to enter? All you have to do is subscribe to this channel right here on Full Coverage podcast on YouTube. Leave one comment down below of this podcast episode. So if you're already subscribed, babe, just get to comment.

[Laura Lee]

Comment, babe.

[Samantha Mua]

You will be entered. And then you can also get an additional entry by following us on our full coverage podcast Tick tock page, which we will have in the description. If you have trouble finding that, don't worry, we'll link it in the description of this video. So that part's not mandatory. Right? So if you're like, I don't have tick tock and I can't do that, don't worry, just subscribe to us here. Leave one comment here and you're entered. But if you want that additional entry, follow us on our TikTok page at full Coverage Podcast and you're in.

[Laura Lee]

That's it. That's literally it. We just want to do a giveaway with you guys because we love you so much and we just appreciate the support and we love to just get back to our people who are subscribed to us and that just genuinely show us love and support.

[Samantha Mua]

That's right. So, yeah, we'll have the end date in the description Box. Also, beware of scammers. I know there's a lot of that. Whenever influencers do giveaways, they make fake accounts and they start asking for things like your credit card information and certain things. Private information, if it is not. And Manny's verified account contacting you or.

[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

Oh, yeah. So, yeah, we've had people emailing, you know, us and saying, I won, I won. And we're like, oh, my God, no, it's a scam. So just be on the lookout for that. But, yeah, good luck. And let's jump into.

[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

And I'm sorry. Drag race is where we get our personality. We don't know better. We. We don't know anything.

[Laura Lee]

I'm sorry, guys. It's the truth. Like, we're just. We're just stands. You know what I mean? We're stands. That's what we do. That's who we are. That's who we live.

[Samantha Mua]

So a little rapid fire today. But first, peeking pits.

[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

Okay, so here's the thing. A lot of you guys were like, hey, I need you to keep talking about the mental health thing and the self development thing. And I was like, all right, all right, all right. I've been reading quite a few people's memoirs. So I. Anyways, I'm getting back into it. So I listened to some podcasts over these past two weeks, and the great thing is I took notes. So some of the things that jumped out to me that I thought, oh, that's a really important or good information to share with people. I took notes on that. The first one, I didn't even put my notes, but Manny brought it up to me, so I'm just going to mention it. So you know how we always talk about, like, it's really important you are who you hang around. So it's really important who's in your circle, is a good person, is leading you in the right direction and lifting you up. So I was listening to a psychologist. Oh, she's a neuroscience, too. Scientist. Her name's Dr. Tara Stort S W A R T Swart.

[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

That's her. I'm just kidding, guys. Anyways, it was on the podcast Rise with Roxy. She is the girl who wrote the manifestation book. Okay? So she said that the five people you are around the most, if you had to describe them with one word. So you'd had five words there for each person, right? One word for each person. Those five words would describe you. So that is. Yeah, that's deep.

[Laura Lee]

That's like a mind look. That's literally a boom. That's a big bang right there.

[Samantha Mua]

Whether it's good things, bad things, like say honest to God, the one word that would describe the five people around you, you got to be honest about it, it will describe you. So it's very important. So let's say there's annoying toxic feel friend, that's in your circle and you just kind of deal with it because everybody else likes them, but you're around that person a lot, you will become a part of that person.

[Laura Lee]

It'll feed into you. It's just natural.

[Samantha Mua]

It's like how the human brain works. We just adapt to what we're around. So the five people you're around the most, choose them wisely. Okay? The next big takeaway is whatever we believe is true. Now, I've preached this. I've preached this. I preached this. I think every single time I've talked about mental health, I've. I said whatever you believe about yourself is true. So try to think something positive about yourself. But this was an interesting perspective on it to get you guys to really believe me when I say that. When you think about sex, do you become aroused? Yes. When you think about food, does your mouth water? Does your stomach growl? Of course. Whenever we see or think about something really silly sad that happened to us, can we get teary eyed just by our thoughts? Thinking about a really sad situation, you know, the loss of my mother, whatever. Do you see how just your thoughts can create physical action on your body? It's almost scary, you know, how powerful reminds them. Our minds are such a powerful thing. So your thoughts are very important. And your thoughts create your feelings. Your feelings create your actions. So what are your thoughts create your actions. So your thoughts are really important. So whenever you're going to into any situation or anything, you want to believe things like I, oh, I got this. Because I always remain calm even if that's not true. That's what you should be saying to yourself because your psyche is going to take that in. And the way Our subconscious actually works whatever we're told over and over again. It gets down. Subconscious is not the conscious mind, by the way. It's the guy running the show that you never hear or see from. So it gets down in there. So you should be saying things like, oh, I'm so smart. I can handle this, or, oh, my God, I have a phenomenal memory. I'll. I'll do great on this test. I am so smart. This is not a problem for me. I have great coping skills. These are some things that you should say throughout your life with any situation. You should always replace your negative thoughts with positive thoughts. Now, in the most realistic way that you can do that. Right. Also, another good thing to do is your affirmations. I mean, just saying positive things about.

[Laura Lee]

Yourself, you all see inside out, too. Yeah, diva. It's all about. I mean, it really is about, like, that subconscious and everything like that in a chiller way.

[Samantha Mua]

So if you go around, you know, and you're like, I hate the way I look, your confidence is going to be lower. I mean, it's just a fact. You know what I mean? And also, it gets uncomfortable. I will say the thing that deters people from these positive thoughts are saying these. These positive things is because they're uncomfortable when you don't believe them. And you don't believe them because you've consistently told yourself the negative. Right. And you believe that. But the thing is, with our mind, you may think, oh, I'm gonna have to tell myself these uncomfortable lies forever to believe them. That's not true. Our brains are actually very adaptable, and they absorb very quickly. So I think saying affirmations or things that are like, I'm so smart, I can handle this, or anytime you're in a situation just saying you're smart, you will very quickly start to believe you're smart, and that will go into action. You'll see things turn around in your life. So I thought that was really interesting. And then, so Dr. Tara is a. She's a site neuroscience. She's a neuroscientist. So she's a genius. Right? Okay, so she was talking a lot about the chemicals in our brains and, like, factually how we work. And she was explaining that cortisol is the stress hormone, right? It's. It's the stress. When cortisol is released, you can watch a scary movie and your brain can be releasing cortisol. Right? Okay, so cortisol, oxytocin is the good chemical that gets released, and oxytocin, when that's released from your brain, it is lowering your cortisol. So what are things that help us release oxytocin?

[Laura Lee]

Sex, Running.

[Samantha Mua]

I mean, exercise. The common things, right? The things off the top of the head. Did you know gratitude releases oxytocin in the brain, lowering cortisol, keeping you alive longer.

[Laura Lee]

I love that.

[Samantha Mua]

Did you know affirmations release oxytocin in your brain? Did you know having a clean space that you walked into will release oxytocin in your brain? So if you got a nasty ass car or a nasty ass bedroom or a nasty ass kitchen, your cortisol goes up.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Samantha Mua]

And your oxytocin goes down. Did you know that smelling a good smell that you like releases oxytocin in your brain? So did you know seeing, like, even. Even making. So they said, people say make your bed every morning. Not to have a made bed, but to complete a task. And if you complete a task at the beginning of it. By the way, I don't make my bed every morning. So I'm just. Listen, we're in it together, okay? I'm not trying to preach that I'm perfect here, but anyways, that by doing that, it's not only like, oh, I completed a task today, so that boosts my confidence. Like, I've completed something. But it was talking about how, like, making your bed and, like, having that clean, organized space, it's a release of oxytocin in your brain. So it's insane. Like, we underestimate the value and the little things that we can be doing in our life to live a healthier, happier life. We're underestimating, but I think we underestimate it because I think we just don't know 100%. I just think people don't know. I literally think people don't know they're cleaning the room. So shit's not everywhere.

[Laura Lee]

No, that's what they're thinking.

[Samantha Mua]

That's what you're thinking. So you're less likely to want to clean your room or to take the time and make a space in your home that looks like just to take the time to make it look beautiful. You don't even know how much that's doing for you. And if you can educate yourself on how our brain works and the chemicals released in it, it makes you more likely to do those things because you have, like, reasoning behind it. And like, obviously humans, we work off.

[Laura Lee]

Reason and, like, a goal, Something you want, something for something you want.

[Samantha Mua]

Oxytocin is what you're.

[Laura Lee]

And it's addicting like that. I mean, it's one of those things where you want to feel happy, obviously.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah. So those are great ways to do it. So that was a huge takeaway. And then there was one more takeaway, and it was talking about manifestation. If you don't believe in it, to it. I believe in manifestation. If you don't, I'm not here to convince you to do it. Okay. I always like to make that clear. But anyway, so a big part of manifestation is visualization, meaning visualizing whatever it is that you want, you want to become whatever the goal is, you visualize yourself in that. Right. So visualization, our brain, actually, it's primal instinct. And the way it works to keep us alive and to keep us going is to be afraid of anything that is not familiar. So if you want to change anything in your life or try something new or have a new goal you want to get, you're going to be in unfamiliar territory. And vis. Visualization is a way to make something new that's. That you want to get into, that's coming your way, familiar in your brain and not scary. And not scary. Right. So you're more likely to get into it, you're more likely to succeed at it, and you're more likely to go after a goal if you actually spend time visualizing yourself. So let's, let's. Let's just an example so people can understand what I'm talking about. I want to try a new workout class. I want to work out. So I'm going to visualize that class and what it's like in there and the moves I'm going to be doing and what I'm going to wear and what the teacher looks like and how I'm going to put, like, every little crevice of that class. If you want to maybe take. Go back to school, what are the people you're going to be sitting by? What are the, you know, what's it going to smell like? Visualize everything you can. And then there's the people out there who have trouble visualizing. Right?

[Laura Lee]

Right.

[Samantha Mua]

So let's say you're someone is like, I just have trouble, like, focusing and seeing things, or I'm going into something where I don't know what it's going to be like. That's what a vision board is for. That's visualizing. So create a vision board. Literally, it's physical. It's a physical activity. Yeah. Like, if you feel like you can't picture it and you can't see it in your mind, there's a vision board. Make a vision board, you know, cut out pictures and words that it will feel like. And all this is about is making it familiar to your brain. So that way, going into something, you're going to lose a lot of that anxiety and fear. You're going to knock it out to begin with, which makes it more likely for you to move on to the next step of your life and do a goal. So those are some of my big takeaways. You guys like them, love them, leave them. But I wanted to share because you guys always leave me a lot of feedback on it. So I was like, well, I'm doing the work, I'm listening to. I listen to all these podcasts only because I enjoy them truly for myself and I want to live my life to the fullest and at in the best way that I can. So I'm like, let me just try to find these little tidbits that I think, oh, that was like a good point, you know, And I put them in my notes.

[Laura Lee]

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[Laura Lee]

So if you feel it like I feel like whenever there's like things like that happen or like a little something will be said and I'll be like oh, I felt like that hit, that's when it's like the times to like, share. Because then it could hit for someone else too. You know what I mean? Even what you said about like being around people and you know, you are what you're around, like, that's profound. For a lot of people.

[Samantha Mua]

That's really profound. One of the most profound things I listened to, like a full episode long years and years ago, I told you guys about this 100 time about taking things personal. And it literally broke down how that like, decrepits us and.

[Laura Lee]

Absolutely.

[Samantha Mua]

And I could relate to everything they were saying. I was like, oh my God, I take everything personal. And I would have definitely declared myself as someone who definitely doesn't.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Samantha Mua]

And then they put like every scenario. I was like, all right there. So it changed my life forever. Just hearing all the ways that affects you and all the ways you can get so much more out of life by not doing that and become so much more confident in yourself. So I really leaned into and it changed my life. So that's why I'm like, maybe some of these tidbits will change some of you guys's lives for the better.

[Laura Lee]

I love that. Yeah, I love it. I feel like I get a lot of my tidbits from you.

[Samantha Mua]

Oh, I love them.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. I feel like you are really good at like seeking out those and you really enjoy it. To the self help and yeah, I feel like it's helped me by proxy just by being around you and you tell me these things and I'm like, oh, yeah. And, you know, it's funny. And I feel like sometimes I subconsciously implement them. I don't think about, like, let me think about what Laura said that one time. I think that it's like something that kind of seeps in and it helps over time. And it's not just something like that. You can think about, like, let me just turn it on. Which you can. But even hearing this, you've heard it before, you can hear it again. It's something that will seep in. Just like the repetition. If you do something repeatedly, constantly, it becomes normal, it becomes familiar. You can actually implement some change in your life. So this is another one of those things where it's like, if you're talking about self help and change and you listen to that constantly, you're naturally going to have self help and change, like occur. That's just the truth. That's just what it is. As humans, we absorb a lot. Or humans are sponges. They've always been like that. We're always absorbing and giving off the energy that we get. So I think it's like, really, really cool that you've done a lot of that. And because we've been friends for so long.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

It's somehow gotten into me too.

[Samantha Mua]

Well, thank you. Thank you. It's one of my favorite things to do, so I appreciate you and acknowledge all of you I recognize and all the nice things you guys say about it. Also, people are like, you should write a self help or self development book or you should do seminars. And you know what holds me back from that? I kind of went through this earlier in my career on YouTube being a quote unquote beauty guru, as we were called. When you go into the world of self development, you are expected to have your together and, you know, to kind of have that practice what you preach. Perfect life. When none of the self help. Tony Ramen's baby girl, probably a red. You know, none of them do. And that's okay. It doesn't mean what they're saying is wrong.

[Laura Lee]

Right.

[Samantha Mua]

But the people will and they're trying, baby. Oh, yeah. And that's what they're saying. And that's why Tony Robbins is a billionaire, because he believes what he's saying. It doesn't mean he's perfect and he's never, you know, gone off script. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. The perception of the audience for self development is like, practice what you preach. You know what I mean? I remember Rachel Hollis wrote this huge book. What was it? It was like, girl, wipe your teeth or something like that. I read it, of course, years and years ago. It was all about, like, a lot of it was about her marriage. And then she got a divorce. And what the you think happened? Her world exploded.

[Laura Lee]

I was like, she got shredded.

[Samantha Mua]

So I'm like, I. It does keep me out of that world because I just want to remind people I'm learning every day. I'm living for the first time every day, too. And my life's not perfect. I do implement all this stuff in my life, and I try to do better, and I try to do good every day, but I'm not perfect. But going into that world, people just.

[Laura Lee]

It almost feels like you have to be.

[Samantha Mua]

She knows everything. She. She must have a perfect life. And then God forbid, you know, something, something or that's not on par with what you preach. You're held to such a crazy standard. So it keeps me out of that world. And I actually listen to another podcast where it's like a doctor talking about. I think the doctor was a little overweight and Then she had to tell patients, I think she was a heart doctor, you know about you need to lose this much weight. And then she said they would look at her like she was crazy, but she was like, because she's not the.

[Laura Lee]

Fittest doctor in the world.

[Samantha Mua]

Right? Right. Baby, this is about you. Yeah, but do you see the standard you're held at for your profession?

[Laura Lee]

For sure. I mean, at the end of the day, if you will put yourself in that profession or on a pedestal. And I'm not saying in a weird way, but like if you're putting yourself out like, okay, I know these things, this is how I implement it. And anything goes wrong, you're a mess.

[Samantha Mua]

You're a mess.

[Laura Lee]

You're a disaster. You don't know anything. You don't know anything you're talking about.

[Samantha Mua]

Exactly.

[Laura Lee]

So it's the same thing like with anything, doctors, personal trainers, any like walk of life that's like if the purpose trainer is not, doesn't have a six pack. I mean, you can't personal train.

[Samantha Mua]

No, yeah, exactly, exactly.

[Laura Lee]

Like, come on, like, so it's, it's one of those things where it's like, if you're putting yourself out there in that way, it's almost like being a beauty guru but you don't have to do makeup.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah. Or no, it's a. Being a beauty guru but you have a bad makeup day.

[Laura Lee]

Right. I can have a wrong match.

[Samantha Mua]

So yeah, like a bad foundation match. So you're not, you don't know what you're talking about. You're not really.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Samantha Mua]

You know what I mean? It turns into that and like I never, I, I've just like gone so much. So I'm so happy to talk about it, be a part about it, share everything I know about it. But just to like write a book or become like, I'm like, oh, I don't want to be held to that because I'm not perfect. And I already went through that especially like somewhat in cancellation. Like, you know, a beauty guru, you know, you miss stuff and it's just like.

[Laura Lee]

And that was as a beauty guru.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So imagine like something even like, and.

[Samantha Mua]

Maybe that's created a self conscious fear in itself within me. But going through something like that, you really start to think about blocks up.

[Laura Lee]

A little bit in different ways before.

[Samantha Mua]

You jump into something. Like you start to think before you just like dive in. Like, oh yeah, I love self development. I'll just dive in, I'll write a book. Like you start to think about all the things around it. You know what I mean? So it should be interesting anyways.

[Laura Lee]

No, it's true. I agree. Okay, I'm going to go. I'll go peek. I think it's funny. I just watched this last episode of White Lotus. Mine's much lighter. Mine's much of a lighter. I will give a little bit of like a. What's it called when you talk about something early when someone has a spoiler? This is absolute spoiler. Listen, if you haven't watched the episode from Sunday, that was five days ago, right? Now, for you guys watching, then just get past this part a little bit. But I would love to talk about how it's finally picking up. You watched episode, right?

[Samantha Mua]

Absolutely.

[Laura Lee]

Didn't it feel like I was like, oh, my God. I'm like, really? Like, it was like going.

[Samantha Mua]

Do you know, it's crazy. What I got one of the actors, I got insert that. They said this episode was going to be. Because online. They have been catching a lot of hands online about this season. So boring. Nothing's happening.

[Laura Lee]

Like, it's going slowly.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah. Like, we're just watching people, people live. Live. And so the actor has said, just wait for this episode. And he told me that two weeks ago. So he said he was like, next week's gonna be again. It's gonna be, you know, like another builder. And then it's gonna start to hit. And then he wasn't.

[Laura Lee]

Baby, he was not lying.

[Samantha Mua]

He never lied.

[Laura Lee]

Guys, episode five of this season is like episode one. So, like, episode one, I feel like, was a lot of building, but it was like, oh, you, like, got some action. 2, 3, 4, build only exclusively really 5 building. But shit's going. Shit's going down. The freaking monologue that. That man's monologue about the Asian girl. You guys, the whole thing is crazy. You have to watch. I don't know if you guys watch my Lotus, but if you do, you have to watch it. Walter Goggins face.

[Samantha Mua]

He's a good actor.

[Laura Lee]

He is so good Lord. That's. If you. I feel like that's you listening to my crazy stories.

[Samantha Mua]

It is literally shocked, but you're not. You're, like judging.

[Laura Lee]

You're supporting.

[Samantha Mua]

You're supporting.

[Laura Lee]

Shocked and supportive.

[Samantha Mua]

You can be shocked and support. And Walter with his. His character's Rick, by the way, but his. His character so profoundly absorbs the information with a look on his face that's appalled but not judging. And he. And he totally is like, he embodied it perfectly. Yeah, he did. Now, that's a perfect.

[Laura Lee]

Shocked. Shocked, but not judge. I mean, I'm sure. And certainly he's judging a little bit, but definitely was supportive. Shocked and supportive.

[Samantha Mua]

Negative way.

[Laura Lee]

No, just like, wow.

[Samantha Mua]

I just, like, didn't expect to hear that, you know?

[Laura Lee]

No. What do you think about the two brothers kissing?

[Samantha Mua]

Okay, one shocked. But judging. I'm judging. I'm judging. Incest. I'm judging every single time. Sorry. If you're married to your cousin, babes, there were 8 billion people.

[Laura Lee]

You could have found someone else.

[Samantha Mua]

I'm assuming you never left your hometown.

[Laura Lee]

Never.

[Samantha Mua]

And it got you.

[Laura Lee]

And it's small.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah. And it's small. And you got. But listen, as someone from Alabama, you know, they talk a lot of. About incest in Alabama. What's going on?

[Laura Lee]

I'm sure you haven't. Yeah. And I bet you haven't seen a single, like, ancestral person in Alabama.

[Samantha Mua]

Not incestual.

[Laura Lee]

I'm so scared.

[Samantha Mua]

I've heard, cuz.

[Laura Lee]

I've heard cousin.

[Samantha Mua]

Cousin. I'm talking about third cousins.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, so it's like, way down the line.

[Samantha Mua]

That's what I've heard of.

[Laura Lee]

Okay.

[Samantha Mua]

I've never heard of brother, sister stuff. Nothing. Nothing like that. Nothing like that. No.

[Laura Lee]

But it was far in the distance.

[Samantha Mua]

It was far in the distance. But it's still too close to your home.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, it's totally. And even if it's like, Even if, like, you're not even related to them, but they're married in. It's weird, girl.

[Samantha Mua]

It's weird.

[Laura Lee]

Like, that's.

[Samantha Mua]

Oh, yeah. Like, I married my stepbrother or something. Get out of here.

[Laura Lee]

Don't even. Or if it's even like, step, Step dad's child. Sis. Like, I don't. It's like, too much. It's too much.

[Samantha Mua]

It's like out of all the people in the world, really.

[Laura Lee]

But you guys, they kissed. And I feel like from episode one, they were building up to this weirdness because even for us, when I was really like, what's going on?

[Samantha Mua]

But where are they going?

[Laura Lee]

I don't know. I, I. For me, the younger one, Locke, I feel like he is just, like, kind of confused with sexuality. He doesn't really know what's going on. He's very much in this. Like, he's a people pleaser. You can kind of tell. And he has a brother and he has a sister, and he kind of, like, doesn't really know where he fits in. Like, I feel like amongst them, his brother's trying to be like, this macho. Like, you need to be strong and masculine like me. It's Just kind of like, no, hang out with me and, like, kind of do it. So he's kind of split between them, but he's trying to figure out who he is, is what I gather from it. And his brother, obviously, Patrick, is a freaking, like, basically a douche in the show. Like, he is a douche. So them, like, you know, that kissing scene or, like, because they were up on drugs, whatever. I'm like, where can this even go, realistically?

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Like, I don't know. But the fact that they even kissed was crazy to me because Lachlan was like, okay, like, we'll kiss, obviously. Because he was like, let's do it. But Patrick's face was, like, gagged.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah. Even he was like, I was good.

[Laura Lee]

I was really like. I was shook, but I feel like it was. It was leading up to that.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

It made sense for it to happen. Same with the three. The three girly. The girly pops.

[Samantha Mua]

Yep.

[Laura Lee]

Like, I was. I. I needed Lori to get some.

[Samantha Mua]

I feel like I needed it. The three girly pops. Or like, that threesome relationship is so real.

[Laura Lee]

It's too real.

[Samantha Mua]

It's a little like everything. Like that.

[Laura Lee]

That is. No, Joe. What's so funny, I would have never thought the one with the bob was one that was gonna make the most sense.

[Samantha Mua]

I did.

[Laura Lee]

I didn't make the most sense.

[Samantha Mua]

I knew from the moment when I saw them at the club she was gonna want to leave. I knew. And before they even showed her at the club. Because the other two. Yeah. You know, she's already tapped.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Samantha Mua]

She's like, yeah. At the club, when they show. They show them dancing first, I believe. And I immediately said to myself, she ain't gonna like that. Well, you have to keep in mind the other two are single and she's married.

[Laura Lee]

Not that one. She's the. The one. She has a man.

[Samantha Mua]

The actress has a man answering her calls, and he's left her. That's why she wants to go out.

[Laura Lee]

She wants experience.

[Samantha Mua]

She wants to be hot, single. But she's not single to them out because she wants. Her man has left her, basically. She's insecure, keeps trying to gone. So she's like, well, F him. I'm gonna go out and party. So she's immediate, like, where are the guys? You know what I mean? So I know she's gonna be into it. And then the other one's single, too. They said the other one's married. So I knew immediately she was going to be like.

[Laura Lee]

She's like, should we leave?

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah, yeah, it Just.

[Laura Lee]

It was very real. And I was like, this is she. I get.

[Samantha Mua]

You're like. And then whenever they're taking these drinks from these guys and all, you're like, why does she make sense?

[Laura Lee]

She makes sense to me.

[Samantha Mua]

She's like, we're strong. What if we stop?

[Laura Lee]

Why? Why do we stop? Or when they're all at the pool and she's like, do you guys want to go?

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

It was too real to me. I was like, girl, we've all been in that situation. We're like, get the out, Laura. Every Friday.

[Samantha Mua]

I'm like, she just makes so much sense.

[Laura Lee]

She just makes so much sense to get out of my house.

[Samantha Mua]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

No. It's so freaking funny. Honestly, the whole thing was. It cracked me up, but it's just really good. I think that that. That literally just watched it, like, two days ago. So that's what's on my mind. And it's been a slow build, but I feel like episode five really started to go places.

[Samantha Mua]

Love that.

[Laura Lee]

Did you feel like it was going places?

[Samantha Mua]

Oh, yeah, girl. I loved it.

[Laura Lee]

I was in.

[Samantha Mua]

Okay. I'm gonna be so real, though, while, you know, everybody, even Ty, is like, this show's so boring. Up to it. I kind of had been enjoying it.

[Laura Lee]

I love the way it's shot so much.

[Samantha Mua]

I do, too.

[Laura Lee]

That's why I love it.

[Samantha Mua]

Beautiful. And while they. Yeah, they're not giving us a lot, you know, I love Walter Goggins.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I know. You're like, a stand.

[Samantha Mua]

I am. He's from Alabama. Like, I am a huge. And I love seeing people from Alabama. Obviously, I know what it's like to get out of there. It's hard to make it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Samantha Mua]

Big coming from a place that's smaller. You know what I mean? And there's not, like, a lot of celebrities walking around. You know what I mean? So I love. I just root on, and I love to see it every single time. So I've been a huge fan of him. And then I love the woman who plays. I think her name's Lori in real life. Is that her name? Who plays the country accent, the mom, you know, that has that, you know, Lara Pan.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, not. Not Lori you're talking about.

[Samantha Mua]

Who am I talking about? What's her name? To start with the L. Fuck.

[Laura Lee]

What is her name?

[Samantha Mua]

That's going to kill me. I have to look it up.

[Laura Lee]

We have to look it up. We're going to. Us both.

[Samantha Mua]

Like, sorry, guys.

[Laura Lee]

Like the one that's, like, in Taiwan.

[Samantha Mua]

In Taiwan, you talk about China I.

[Laura Lee]

Literally am obsessed with her. She. For. For me, she really makes the show. I've been saying, you want to live in Taiwan, you know, the last two days straight, you want to live in Taiwan. They're in Thailand, by the way. So it just makes it so much better. Like, the whole, she's incredible.

[Samantha Mua]

I'm looking at her. I love Victoria Ratliff and Parker.

[Laura Lee]

Parker Posey.

[Samantha Mua]

Parker Posey, baby.

[Laura Lee]

Parker, you are just a true national treasure. And it's like, I was so glad because we had Jennifer Coolidge the last season. So I'm like, we needed that.

[Samantha Mua]

She kind of.

[Laura Lee]

We needed that comedic relief, and that is who Parker Posey is for me.

[Samantha Mua]

Also love Chelsea, who's Rick's girlfriend.

[Laura Lee]

I'm obsessed with her.

[Samantha Mua]

I'm obsessed with her. I actually was obsessed with her from Sex Education.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, I like her in this.

[Samantha Mua]

Oh, everything. So I was jumping through the moon when I saw she was in this. Because if you watch Sex Education on Netflix, you're in love with her character, because you'll love her character. Love. She kind of plays a similar person.

[Laura Lee]

She is that girl to me.

[Samantha Mua]

And she just did an interview, and she talked a lot about her look and her teeth. And I think it's so pitiful for society if we see anything that isn't a veneer, we lose our mind. Like, we didn't go to school in a regular area where everybody's teeth look every which way. Why is that? Why do we lose? So it was like she was talking about, you know, that was her number one thing. Like, people bring out the teeth. The teeth, the teeth. But then she. Which, thank God, because her teeth are one of my favorite things about it.

[Laura Lee]

And I love her little.

[Samantha Mua]

Like, her look.

[Laura Lee]

She has, like, the cutest little resting face.

[Samantha Mua]

Yes, she does. And it's sad to say someone's brave. Like, that's sad. Like, we are in a very sad place. You know, it's a dark time to say someone's brave. But anyways, she loves her look, and she loves the way she looks. And she realized it's kind of her superpower because everybody looks the same. Let's be very real. Yeah, everyone's the same. And she realized it was kind of her superpower, especially in Hollywood, because she's like, wait, I looked there, and look at the role she's booking now. They love her look. And she said, now all of her social media, all of her DMs are just flooded with people saying they love their teeth now. I love that they don't want to change their look. They want to look like that. They love it. And they're realizing, wait, this might be their superpower. And it's like it just took one person, you know, I'm sure other. I mean, other people have crooked teeth, you know, or, you know, a different look, if you will, online before. But it just took her being brave and going out there and doing her roles with her look, which is probably why she got the roles and her talent, of course. But so many people just flooding her dms, talking about how proud they are, the way they look now.

[Laura Lee]

I love that.

[Samantha Mua]

I know. Isn't that really empowering? She's a really empowering person, so I love her.

[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

Girl, wait.

[Laura Lee]

The worst security guard I've ever seen in my life. I think you have something on my.

[Samantha Mua]

Babe.

[Laura Lee]

Just tell the guy, bruh. And the fact that he didn't, like, hound him for it, and he was just kind of looking at him like.

[Samantha Mua]

I think Ty said something about that. Ty was like, could they work security?

[Laura Lee]

And honestly, I thought it was so sweet. And I'm like, oh, it sounds like such a little angel. But, like, as a security guard, you're not really supposed to be a sweet angel.

[Samantha Mua]

I don't want a sweet angel protecting me.

[Laura Lee]

Me neither. Ever. Babe, you are literally asking for something back. And he's literally like, I think I lost something and I think you took it, girl. And that's it.

[Samantha Mua]

What a. What a security guard, babes.

[Laura Lee]

Horrible. Horrible. Anyway, that is just like. I just wanted to, like, literally talk about that because I've been so. And honestly, like, the Internet's been going crazy about the show because of these situations from episode five, like the monologue and then, like, the incest and everything. So I feel like it's quite. It's quite fierce, and I think you guys need to watch it, period. What's your bit?

[Samantha Mua]

Well, I guess this is kind of peak. I didn't really have. I mean, a certain pit, but. So you know how I've whined about perioral dermatitis a million times where I kind of figured out what it is, is tomato sauce.

[Laura Lee]

You're lying.

[Samantha Mua]

No, I'm not. It's tomato.

[Laura Lee]

It's official. That's what it is. Not tomatoes with tomato sauce.

[Samantha Mua]

Yep. Because it's more concentrated in tomato sauce. Like pastas, pizza, marinara, tomato paste. Yeah, Car, like, any.

[Laura Lee]

And how did you figure out that that's what it was that activated?

[Samantha Mua]

One night I cooked spaghetti and I use multiple different tomato sauces, crushed tomatoes, tomato sauce, and tomato paste, which tomato paste is an extreme, concentrated, dense version of tomatoes. And I had the worst. The next morning, I had the worst perioral breakout I've ever had. My face was blown up. I looked crazy. And I said, oh, my God. I think because periola dermatitis is related to rosacea, and tomatoes are acidic, therefore they will break you out with rosacea. But what kept putting me off is I would eat tomatoes, and I wouldn't really break out. So I was like, it's not the tomatoes. And then I would have pasta with tomato sauce, and I would break out, and I'd be like, oh, my God, it's the sauce. So it's. I'm basically allergic to tomato sauce.

[Laura Lee]

I'm gagged.

[Samantha Mua]

I can have. And the thing is, if I eat, like, a bunch of tomatoes, I'll break out a little. But nothing. Like if I had a pasta or a pizza, even pizza after. Rake a lot of the sauce off now, and I'll be okay. I'll have a little break.

[Laura Lee]

This is, like, her favorite food, by the way.

[Samantha Mua]

Oh, yeah, definitely. So I love that for me. And then makeup irritates it, but doesn't cause it.

[Laura Lee]

No. And it won't, like, activate.

[Samantha Mua]

Like, for instance, when I take this makeup off, because I'll have had it on for, like, 10 hours. I'll be a little red right here. But no bumpy breakout or anything.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, no, no, you're not activated. Like, it doesn't start.

[Samantha Mua]

Exactly. It doesn't activate it. What activates it. And the thing I kept having breakouts is because I eat tomatoes and tomato sauce all the time. It's one of my favorite foods. So I've cut it out of my life, unfortunately, and I haven't really had any more breakouts.

[Laura Lee]

Tomato sauce or tomatoes.

[Samantha Mua]

Tomato sauce. I can eat tomatoes. If I eat tomatoes, I'll get, like, two little bumps right there.

[Laura Lee]

It's nothing.

[Samantha Mua]

It's nothing. So, like, I can throw a tomato on every now. And you think it's just acidic stuff?

[Laura Lee]

Anything acidic?

[Samantha Mua]

No, because I eat a lot of acidic foods that don't mess with me.

[Laura Lee]

So it's tomato.

[Samantha Mua]

It's tomatoes. I've done a lot. I spent. I've spent these time. So listen, if you have parallel dermatitis, it's. I. I knew from the jump. Well, I thought from the jump it was makeup, because makeup irritated it. But then as I started looking at it, I realized it's something I'm ingesting, but I Just couldn't figure out what it was. I was like, is it the soda? Is it fried food? You know, I started thinking the bad stuff, and then. It's not the bad stuff. It's an acidic. It's tomato. It's a good stuff. It's a good stuff. No, it really is. It's tomato sauce.

[Laura Lee]

That's horrific.

[Samantha Mua]

It's horrific. It's a peak. It's a pit.

[Laura Lee]

Because you figured it out. Horrific. That what it is. Yeah, my pit is that. Remember I was, like, telling you when I date with that guy that had, like, talked to back a day, we just, like, we squashed it because that's both. We like. He was like, he's like, I don't know if I'm ready to, like, really jump back into anything. And I was like, oh, my God, So funny say that, because I, like, don't think I'm ready to jump back into anything really either. And I was just saying weeks prior, I was like, I'm not interested in dating right now. Like, I'm really not. I don't want to do that. But I had went on some dates because I think I was just trying to put myself out there and like, just be. Honestly, forget, like, what was going on. But then when I've gone on these two dates, I kind of realized I was like, I don't know if I'm like, really, like, emotionally, like, that available. And he was like, I don't feel, like, emotionally available. I'm like, I don't feel like I'm emotionally available too. So not even necessarily a pick, because we had just talked about it and it was like, I'm so glad we talked about it. And I think we'll just stay friends. But it's one of those things where it's like, well, back in the streets I go, but I'm not trying to actually really be back in the streets like that.

[Samantha Mua]

You're taking a break?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I think I'm taking a little. A little one, too. The problem when you take a break is that you still want attention. That's the issue. Because you feel, like, not good. Like, you almost feel like, I don't know, insecure in, like, a way. You're kind of like, oh, like, no one wants to be with me, I'm so lonely kind of vibes. But you still know you need. Mentally, you need to take a break. So you just have to, like, find distractions.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

In a way. So you just, like, do other things. But, yeah, we just kind of, like, squashed it yesterday.

[Samantha Mua]

Dang.

[Laura Lee]

Well, it was good. It was like we had to talk. And he was like, really?

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah, you guys.

[Laura Lee]

I was communicative.

[Samantha Mua]

Enjoyed your time with him.

[Laura Lee]

It was chill. Yeah, it was really chill.

[Samantha Mua]

It was really fun, you know, it's like, no time lost.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Maybe I'll throw him a.

[Samantha Mua]

Exactly. There you go. And maybe you guys can like, text and stuff.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, exactly.

[Samantha Mua]

Only friends to fill your time. Exactly.

[Laura Lee]

Literally. That's. I was like. And for him too. I'm sure he likes. Since he recently had got out of something, he was probably like, this is a nice distraction too. A double nice distraction for us both, honestly, using each other.

[Samantha Mua]

Right?

[Laura Lee]

I'll take it.

[Samantha Mua]

I love it.

[Laura Lee]

I don't mind being used a little.

[Samantha Mua]

Everything happens for a reason.

[Laura Lee]

It. It really do it. Doobie doobie do. But anyway, you guys, why don't we start off with our rapid fuego?

[Samantha Mua]

What do we have first?

[Laura Lee]

Rapido fuego is rapid fire.

[Samantha Mua]

Rapio fuego.

[Laura Lee]

Rapido fuego.

[Samantha Mua]

Hey, do you know the cheers in Spanish? Can you say the first one?

[Laura Lee]

Ariva. Ariba A. Just imagine a R, I, V, A. But rolling your riva, like above.

[Samantha Mua]

Arriva.

[Laura Lee]

Huh? Oh, ariva, arribajo. Hello.

[Samantha Mua]

There's one.

[Laura Lee]

El Centro. I think it's like inside. And so it's like top, bottom, center.

[Samantha Mua]

Sickening. One day I'm gonna do it.

[Laura Lee]

I don't even do that, by the way. I don't drink. But you have to all the time. I just recognize that.

[Samantha Mua]

I know one time someone called me out, was like, I can tell you didn't know the words. And I was like, yeah, no, I never. You mean.

[Laura Lee]

My last name is Lee.

[Samantha Mua]

I just. When you heard the last name Lee, know the words. And I was like, I came for the tequila. What do you mean? But one day I will speak out perfectly. Arriva.

[Laura Lee]

No, no, no. That's the type. El Centro.

[Samantha Mua]

El Centro Palantro.

[Laura Lee]

It's gonna take some time, but I.

[Samantha Mua]

Actually do feel like.

[Laura Lee]

I feel like you really do have it because you hear it so much.

[Samantha Mua]

So much.

[Laura Lee]

Literally all your friends are Latinx, so it's like, baby, you know the thing, you know, like the shot, the anthem. You like tequila. It's really a win.

[Samantha Mua]

Win.

[Laura Lee]

Even. I. Maybe I could. I could also be saying you're. I could also be saying you're wrong, but I think that's what it is.

[Samantha Mua]

Sounds correct.

[Laura Lee]

Of course it sounds correct to you because you're a Lee. Every Mexican watching this like this, oh, they're pissed. To me, they're like Manny, that was trash the Mexican. But I don't drink, so I don't actually do that chat ever.

[Samantha Mua]

Actually support me so much in my discovery journey and in my journey that it's just crazy. So I feel very comfortable discussing these things.

[Laura Lee]

Absolutely.

[Samantha Mua]

Because of the support that I from.

[Laura Lee]

My Latin brothers and sisters, hermanas and hermano.

[Samantha Mua]

Mi familia, familia, familia.

[Laura Lee]

Mi familia amigos. I love it. I love when you speak Spanish. It's my favorite thing.

[Samantha Mua]

It's rough.

[Laura Lee]

It's like me speaking English. No, I love it. Okay, guys, so first topics. First we have Michaela. So Michaela's dropping a new skincare brand. Skin prep brand that's called Point of View Beauty. Right. It's a. It's skincare, but market is as makeup prep, if that makes sense. So, like, obviously, I think this is just like first and foremost in general, I think it's a smart marketing ploy to go for makeup prep because Michaela is a full glam girly. I think that since she's coming out with essentially skincare and it is a skincare line, let's be so fucking for real. The marketing aspect of it being, you know, point of view beauty. This is how I want to do my skincare before I do my makeup. Genius. I think it's really smart. A lot of people have clocked it being like, maybe that's skincare.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah, it's just her market.

[Laura Lee]

It's just her mark, but it's her marketing to do it because it's something that is more different than just the classic skincare line out there. So I think that they're doing a great job with that. I really, really do. But the tea about this is so that's launching soon, the tea body. So apparently there is a Point of View Beauty that's in Canada. There's a brand.

[Samantha Mua]

But, but, but, but, but, but.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, and so, and so they. And they have said something. I mean, I'm going to read it. Let me tell you something.

[Samantha Mua]

I'm going to read what they claiming. Copycat 100. Okay. They're claiming Michaela Copycat, but they didn't trademark.

[Laura Lee]

Mind you, even trademarks in Canada aren't going to apply to trademarks in the United States. But let's just read it for it and then we'll give our thoughts of what we. What we really.

[Samantha Mua]

Well, if you're going to be selling your product in the U.S. if you're in Canada, you should be trademarking 100. You are selling your product here.

[Laura Lee]

100.

[Samantha Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Samantha Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

So this is what was said by POV Beauty Ca on their Instagram. And it's. This is translated from French to English because it was originally French Canadian. Betray, Sad, Angry, Humiliate and Heartbroke. Which is basically, I'm assuming, the mix of emotions.

[Samantha Mua]

The mix of emotions that they're feeling is feeling correct.

[Laura Lee]

This is how I feel right now about the launch of Michaela's brand. I feel like someone just sawed off both my legs and my greatest prize has been stolen. In short, I don't have the words to describe how helpless I am. It's been almost a year since the brand was created. And to see that someone took your name, your concept, when you have invested all your savings, your passion and much more. I don't know how to react or what to do right now. It saddens me to an unimaginable extent. How can we do this to a small, queer Quebec business that doesn't even have the means to defend anything? I mean, I don't know what queer in Quebec has anything to do with like, yeah, anything with that. But. And they talk Michaela and they tag POV so I can be empathetic and feel for the brand. 100 I get it. Like when you have a brand human to human, bro, like, that is rough. When you see that something that you have worked on that Is your thing that you named, you know, they just feel like so passionate about someone else has that name or has come out with something with that name. It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be something that's tough. And it's gonna feel like I understand emotionally what it is. But let's talk about the facts here. I'll be so for real, if you are a brand, whether it's us, Canadian, anywhere around the world, this is what trademarks are for. This is why when you apply to be a brand, you apply for trademarking. Because if you don't apply for trademarks, what's the point? Like, why. Why wouldn't someone take your name? I'm not even saying that Michaela did. I. And I know for a fact, I mean, I don't know, like, allegedly.

[Samantha Mua]

Well, their name wasn't in the trademarking system. So when Michaela's legal team went to get her POV Beauty, and it's not in the trademarking system, that person, unfortunately, and I'm sad to say this, you have no right to that brand name. I don't even know why countries, including the U.S. even allow business license and brands to get their names and websites to be bought without trademarking. I don't even know why.

[Laura Lee]

Because. Because then it's like. Because these unfortunate things happen where it's like, maybe you should actually be required to trademark.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah, you should be required before even going into business. Skipped one of the biggest, biggest steps in business. And this is coming from someone who trademarked Nudie Patootie. But another business came in who had trademarked one of the words and wanted to take us to court to fight over it. Now, it doesn't mean they were right and it doesn't mean we were in the wrong, because it wasn't the direct name. The names were just similar. And my lawyer even said, it doesn't mean they're going to win, and it doesn't mean you're going to lose, and it doesn't mean you're going to win or lose. This is. It would be a bad, unfortunate situation. It's just an unfortunate situation. But one of the most important steps in owning a business. And if you own an untrademarked business, I think you should really listen up. You've skipped in a huge and important step. And so whenever, you know, Michaela goes to register her bills, her business for trademarking, her legal team's gonna look up any other business that has that name. And because you didn't trademark, you skipped a massive step in Owning a business now, because Michaela has trademarked it, she can sue you for selling your product in the United States. Or if you try, you can now be sued and liable and you can be have your business ripped out from under you. I don't think Michaela, I think she's nice and I don't think she would ever go there. But when you don't trademark, that is the mesh you can find yourself in. So I think it's really important to start at the jump and go, hey, I didn't trademark my business and this is what happened to me.

[Laura Lee]

That is truly just what it is, babe. At the end of the day, as a business, as a small business, it doesn't matter if you're big, small trademarking is there to legally protect you. That's literally one of the most important steps. And honestly, sometimes people even go farther and they go into patents. Why and why would that. Why would they create patents and get these things if they didn't think their thing was super, super valuable and they didn't want other people to take it? That is what it is for, is to protect you. And even so, I'm gonna be so fucking for real. Even so, in the United States, it's a different thing. Canada, US like the, you know, the trademarking system is going to be different than the United States trademarking system. I don't think it's going to register the exact same. I don't know how it works personally.

[Samantha Mua]

But I do have a trademark. What country you're going to sell in? So, like, for instance, if this creator who created Point of View in Quebec wants to sell their product in the United States, they have to get a separate trademark for the US or else Michaela can sue them for selling. You know, she owns the trademark. They can't do that and see Go. No, no. So I'm just saying, like, this has happened with every relevant brand. Every brand pops up that didn't do their trademarking and says, I was copycatted and, and this person stole from me. When technically your name was in the system and you skipped a huge part in business. So I don't want to use the words this is your fault, but you're asking for a disaster like this to happen. If you skip the huge step in creating a business without any trademarking, it's only a matter of time before you can get sued for this. It's so important and I think it's so unfortunate. And my heart really does hurt for this person.

[Laura Lee]

Sucks. And like, they probably didn't even Know, like, honestly, that's. It's a tough thing because you have.

[Samantha Mua]

A business and not know that you can't, you cannot start a business and just say, well, I didn't know that. Like, that. That's not. No.

[Laura Lee]

And the thing is, it actually came out the Michaela files for that trademark of POV in March 2024. That person came out with PV, I guess, like POV on their Instagram. Like, their first post was in, like January 2024. So I genuinely do not believe that Michaela was like, oh, I love POV beauty from this small Quebec business and I'm going to name it POV Beauty. I don't think that's the case at all. I truly, truly do not. Who's been in social media and someone that's been in business who's been dealing with these legal proceedings. Dude.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Do you think that I, I don't think, you guys, I was on the.

[Samantha Mua]

Other side of this girl.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Samantha Mua]

I have dealt with this. I just shut down my business for six months and I did trademark. Okay. Because the other company was so much bigger. So just keep in mind, I did my due diligence, I paid the legal fees, and I ended up on the other side of this where basically I settled to change my business name. So just know when I say this, like, I ended up on the other side. Yeah. I didn't end up on Michaela's side where we were good to go. Like, I ended up on the bad side of it with trademarking. So imagine if I didn't trademark any baby girl.

[Laura Lee]

It would have been like, girl.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah, they would sued me. They would have literally sued me because.

[Laura Lee]

They would have thought you were infringing on their trademark because that is, as a business, they're right.

[Samantha Mua]

But because they saw my trademark was pending, they were like, girl, girl. Let's, let's, let's talk.

[Laura Lee]

Let's figure it out.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So I feel like I, I think that, you know, I don't. I think that Michaela has, you know, investors behind this. I don't think that it's something that she's like, I'm going to do. This isn't this. I think that it's like, hey, it's an investor brand 100%. It's very much giving investor brand the way it's come out. The rollout. So many SKUs. Immediately I'm like, oh, cool. Like, she has, like, you know, partners in this for sure. That's just what I'm thinking. So when you have this kind of team set up, right? You have all these things going on. She cannot fully do every little dissected thing per every single thing. That's just not what it's going to be. She's probably not thinking like she probably has never seen this other POV Quebec Canadian business before. And that's just the reality of life. If you are not trademarking and legally protecting your brand, it can happen where someone thinks the same thing. And that's just what it is.

[Samantha Mua]

And also it was brought up throughout this, this drama of the trademarking point of view beauty that like, oh, all she do is look up the website. The website pops up. Well, the website's popping up now because of probably the search, the current. Because this person, because this person I believe even posted how they're blowing up.

[Laura Lee]

And they're taking all the glosses are selling out.

[Samantha Mua]

Right? They posted, they posted that, you know, this has blown up their business bringing attention to that. Michaela copied them with the beauty brand name. Right? So it's blown up this other person's business in Quebec and they're excited about it. So they made a discount code that's called copycat to get 10 off. I'm sorry.

[Laura Lee]

This is crazy. Maybe, maybe for us because we are creators and we're business owners. This is just so fucking crazy to me. Like I again, I feel like, like, you know, as a human being I'm like, oh, they probably feel like she slided them. Like she, they probably feel like they took it personal that she. They took it personal and they probably.

[Samantha Mua]

Feel like Michaela did like copy them. This one. I'm gonna get that brand.

[Laura Lee]

That's gonna be mine.

[Samantha Mua]

Yep.

[Laura Lee]

Again, that's what they're thinking. So they're clearly gonna be like, they're gonna play up, it's being played the camp of the situation be like copycat code, get all these glasses that they're clearly making something out of it. Like they're. And it just reminds, it reminds me of that one like self tan guy that like rode Michaela's one time too and got sales because he was talking so much shit about Michaela, which is honestly so the whole thing is so fudgeing, buffoonery and clownery and boo boo the full. So to me this is kind of remind me of that where I'm like, oh, so now you're just like you're riding on the hate that Michaela gets to get sales for your brand.

[Samantha Mua]

I just don't know as a business person, I don't know. I know that that's not the move. I do know, girl. I actually do know. Very, very aware. That's never the. The move and it's never the right thing to do. I'm happy this person was able to generate some cells for their smart for sure, for sure. But not off the back of someone else's hate. I don't love that.

[Laura Lee]

I don't like that. It pisses me off. I don't like that. Especially because it's like again, this one hit might be a thing because it's talked about right in this moment, but once this is done, it's the. It's gonna. It's gonna do whatever it was doing before. You know what I mean? It's gonna be the same thing that was happening. So it is kind of. It's just weird because like, again, like as a human, you feel for the person 100, but as a business person, as an entrepreneur and creator, you're kind of like, well, this is like the legal proceedings that you go through as a business. If you want to be a full blown business and you want to really do something and you want to like be an entrepreneur, you have to do it legally the right way.

[Samantha Mua]

That's why I don't even think they should allow people to start businesses without trademarking. Like, why is they allowed to like start. Let me get my business license and register this business. It shouldn't be able to be done without trademarking.

[Laura Lee]

And you're just calling it. That's just a nickname at that point.

[Samantha Mua]

I mean, how many times it has a brand nickname? It had cozy. The girl didn't have a trademark. It's happening to Michaela Road Beauty. Do you remember that?

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Samantha Mua]

Lo and behold, Road Skin won because they trademark. You have to trademark. And yeah, I mean, this person's definitely, you know, jumped on the situation to generate more sales for their company. I'm always happy for a small business to get sales. Always for sure. Do hope this person's businesses succeeds in a different way that's not off the back of someone else's hate that they created for another person for not 100 trademarking themselves.

[Laura Lee]

So also, like, they probably feel vindicated because they're like, baby, you copied me. You did my thing. You did it first. That's just. That's just mentally what I'm thinking. Like, yeah, I think that they're thinking like, oh, I feel so vindicated that people are supporting me that as the original pov.

[Samantha Mua]

Okay.

[Laura Lee]

That's what I think. Yeah, that's what's happening. I think that's Also, why people are.

[Samantha Mua]

Do you think they don't see it as, like, they created hate for another person?

[Laura Lee]

No, no. God, no. Because at the end of the day, they see it as, you copy me. You copy me. So I'm gonna speak out and protect myself and defend myself and my honor and my brand.

[Samantha Mua]

I get that, too. But it's not trademarked.

[Laura Lee]

No. And I think that's just situational. At the end of the day, if that was trademarked, it would be a completely different conversation.

[Samantha Mua]

But Michaela wouldn't have named her.

[Laura Lee]

She would have done it. Exactly.

[Samantha Mua]

They would have popped up in the search, and it would have been a done deal, and none of this would have happened.

[Laura Lee]

And the legal would have been like, nope, that popped up. You can't. And also, do what's even crazier to me, you guys, when you trademark something that actually has to be published.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

When you trademark something that has to be a public thing, a public domain, it needs to be printed out somewhere. It needs to be. And then. So if at the end of the day, if that gets. What's it called, where it gets, like, objected, then like, oh, shit, you. Then it doesn't go through because it's objected by some other brand because they saw that it was live and public in some other domain. So the fact that that was never happened, it was never trademarked, it was never publicized. Just. Babe, like, it really. It is what it is. And I honestly am kind of, like, really tired of this song and dance with this exact thing with the trademarking, when it's like these people calling out these creators or these brands, and you copy me, Copy me. No, you did not do the due diligence of what you were supposed to do as a brand and as a company and as a small business. And I know it might be expensive, and trademarking is not cheap, don't get me wrong. But then you can't be pissed when someone does the right legal proceedings. It just seems, like, so crazy to me. I don't know.

[Samantha Mua]

I know.

[Laura Lee]

Maybe just because, again, as a business owner and creator, listen, we'll always feel.

[Samantha Mua]

For the little guy at the end of the day. We also have small businesses that we've had to pour a ton of money into with trademarking that we understand. We're also like, well, you skip the most important.

[Laura Lee]

You gotta. You gotta do this. You gotta do the. The right. Like the. The legal right.

[Samantha Mua]

Do it the right way.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Samantha Mua]

Do it the right way.

[Laura Lee]

You can. And you can't expect, like, all these different things. I was like, oh, well, I had it first. Especially if you're a very small, small indie brand.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah. Called Tabs on who had it first.

[Laura Lee]

No, it's not how it works.

[Samantha Mua]

It don't work like that.

[Laura Lee]

You have to legally protect yourself, legally protect your brand.

[Samantha Mua]

Paper bags, baby. It's very.

[Laura Lee]

That's what it is. It's black and white. Really. There's no gray with the legal proceedings of names and trademarking. It is what it is and that's what it needs to be. So any. Just in general, anyone listening that wants to be an entrepreneur wants to have a presentation. This. You guys take the time.

[Samantha Mua]

We'll take the time. Because Michaela is not going to turn around and sue this person for using her trademark and selling their product in the US she can, but she's not going to turn around and do that. Other people will. Yeah, she's not going to do it because she's a social media influencer, you know. Exactly. She knows what's in her best interest. Other people don't care.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, God. Their business.

[Samantha Mua]

And that's why I would tell you to trademark. That's why I would really tell you to trademark. Because if, if, if, if it was any other business, they would sue you for using the name and make you trade your name, change your brand name. So.

[Laura Lee]

And if you. And like, honestly, it's so funny how, like, that can happen where, yeah, the brand that you're trying to, like, call out could be so petty and just sue you.

[Samantha Mua]

Absolutely. And totally wipe you out from underneath. Pull the rug out from underneath you.

[Laura Lee]

So it's part of me, like, honestly, I feel like I'm, I've, I'm not as petty as I once was. Like, I feel like I've, I've grown, I've, I've learned and I've become, you know, live lessons since they've got me. But let me tell you something, old me. If someone tried this exact thing, I'd.

[Samantha Mua]

Be like, let's go to court.

[Laura Lee]

You tried me.

[Samantha Mua]

You're about to lose your brand.

[Laura Lee]

You're about. I was like, oh, you want to get me? I'm.

[Samantha Mua]

You're about to get.

[Laura Lee]

I'm legally correct now that you brought.

[Samantha Mua]

This to my attention. I didn't know you had that. Thank you for letting me know.

[Laura Lee]

Literally, like, I would just be so annoyed and frustrated with the situation. So. That was old me, though. I'm, I'm, you know, I'm. I brought myself peace.

[Samantha Mua]

God, I'm a Christian. No, it's getting serious.

[Laura Lee]

But, yeah, so that's the, that's what's happening right now. I'm curious to see what you guys think. But yeah, that's. That's been flowing.

[Samantha Mua]

This always happens.

[Laura Lee]

Now it does, right? That's like the new tea trademarking, bro. What the.

[Samantha Mua]

How interesting.

[Laura Lee]

I would have never thought that that would be the case. It's like brand trademarking and brands calling out people for coming out brands the legal way.

[Samantha Mua]

I was wondering because every single time a super relevant person comes out with someone one there's a drama surrounding it.

[Laura Lee]

It's just what it was gonna be, what it was.

[Samantha Mua]

And I was like, which one will attach to what's gonna get Michaela this time? Because you know, it's just eventually people see the pattern. So I was like, I wonder what the tidbit on Michaela's brand will be this time. What drama, what, what talks. But honestly, it puts her business out there more totally.

[Laura Lee]

And honestly it just drums up, you know, honestly on both ends. It jumps up.

[Samantha Mua]

It does.

[Laura Lee]

POV beauty in general is just gonna be getting.

[Samantha Mua]

That's what I'm saying. So if you look up POV Beauty. Yeah. It will pop up now, Whereas before it probably. The Canadian website probably did not pop up. Especially if you're in the U.S. exactly. Especially if you're looking up in the U.S. but now it would because it's been clicked so many times its relevancy has come up. Which good for that person. Right?

[Laura Lee]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Samantha Mua]

But so you may go. Well, also took is a Google search. That's not necessarily true. That may happen now. But before, I promise you, a Canadian website did not pop up. Up for Michaela's.

[Laura Lee]

No, no, no, no.

[Samantha Mua]

Or maybe it did and they were like, well, it's not a problem because we're trying to trademark this and they didn't trademark it. So. Yeah, well, Michaela will probably sell to Canada, so she'll have to trademark in Canada as well.

[Laura Lee]

For sure. For sure. But I mean that's. That's currently the tea that's happening right now. I just think it's wild, personally. Next toppy. Have you guys been seeing this little viral seven part series on Tick Tock Millions? It's a video on YouTube. It is a video, but someone broke it into seven parts for tick Tock's sake for like the length. But there's a video basically going around and it's basically showing that Hailey Bieber was essentially Selena Gomez's stalker and also stalking Justin Bieber. That is basically what the whole concept is. But it's blown the up all over. Tick tock.

[Samantha Mua]

Everyone loves saga.

[Laura Lee]

They do. And I'm literally like, why? First of all, why?

[Samantha Mua]

They love pitting two women again against each other. That's their favorite thing. You know it and you know it.

[Laura Lee]

I know it well. I know it well. But it's also like, what I think is so fascinating that we're still talking about Selena and Justin, as if Justin doesn't have a full blown child with Haley and Selena's not happily with Benny Blanco. What the are you guys talking about? Why is this. I'm just confused. I'm like, why is this still even a thing? And why the fact that like, you would. You would think that the story was done. Like, it is what it is. The story is over. Maybe they're happy living their lives and then something like this gets brought up and then it gets blows up all over again. And it feels almost like a revolving door of the same regurgitated tea about their past. So basically what everyone's saying is that Haley was essentially like, Selena's like stalker, right? And would do everything that Selena would do. And she was basically stalking Justin Bieber. It was trying to become like his wife. A ten year plan, even some might.

[Samantha Mua]

Say that there was a go is a diabolical person that had a 10 year plan together to stop Justin for 10 years. So she locked him in as her husband and now she got him.

[Laura Lee]

I think it's kind of sick. I'm like, who's following me for 10 years?

[Samantha Mua]

You know what? Haley, Period, Honestly, Period.

[Laura Lee]

Like, if I had someone doing that, I'm like, period, let's get married.

[Samantha Mua]

I know.

[Laura Lee]

Honestly, 10 years. Okay, so like, so here's the thing. There is point blank, there is some similarities. I'm like, I can see that. I can see where people made valid points. Like, I can see where there's like.

[Samantha Mua]

A little like, you know, looking for a problem. You'll find.

[Laura Lee]

You'll find, honey, every problem will be found.

[Samantha Mua]

They don't just look for it. They scout.

[Laura Lee]

They hunt. Some might say hunt.

[Samantha Mua]

They spend all their time trying to find. Is Haley crazy. You know, the soccer.

[Laura Lee]

Well, also, like, like the reason it even got brought back up is because there's like this rumor that Haley liked shady stuff about Selena and Benny. So that's like where it all kind of started. I think that.

[Samantha Mua]

Did she. Let's say that's a rumor, but that should be a fact.

[Laura Lee]

No, it's a rumor. It's a rumor. And actually, and even so her team has been like, no, that's Never happened.

[Samantha Mua]

See, this is what people do.

[Laura Lee]

They do that.

[Samantha Mua]

They make it up to create a problem.

[Laura Lee]

Hence. Hence why I'm saying it's a rumor that this is what it was. So basically they were like, liking. The rumor is that she was liking shady stuff about Selena.

[Samantha Mua]

Anyway, Haley is probably like, thank God she got engaged.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, she's thrilled.

[Samantha Mua]

That's just my. Now, I don't know that, but I.

[Laura Lee]

Would think the same thing.

[Samantha Mua]

I would hate, like, thank God. Yeah. She's probably so happy. Not because she thought Selena was gonna go back to Justin, but because of this. Thank you, bro. For the people. People's sake. It's not for, like, her relationship sake. It's for the people to chill the out.

[Laura Lee]

You would think.

[Samantha Mua]

You would think.

[Laura Lee]

But see, the thing is, I think that people saw that, or people, let's say people that are massive. Selena's fans, like Selenators or whatever, they saw that she was being shady and liking shady things against Selena. So they're like, you know what? Let's drudge up this. This tea all over again. So I actually think that.

[Samantha Mua]

I don't think she likes shady.

[Laura Lee]

I don't think so either. But I'm saying that I think that was speculated. Yes, speculation. I think the speculation was the catalyst for this all over again. So I think that's actually what caused this commotion to be kind of brought back up for them to be like, okay, look at this. Like, this series. And honestly, the comments on it, like, they make, hey, look horrible. I'm gonna be so for real. All the comments are shredding her. The series makes Haley look horrible. Like, it's really quite rough because of the way that they try to compare it because it's almost done in this, like, you know, like, docu series kind of vibe where they're following for a decade, Haley, Jesus.

[Samantha Mua]

Haley's life girl.

[Laura Lee]

Who's the real talk here? No, so basically they're just following Haley along and they're showing these, like, things where. Where's. Apparently Haley used, you know, her dad or these resources to get in close proximity with Justin because obviously at the time, at least this is my conspiracy. Haley. And like, Justin was like, popping off. He was Justin Bieber. Haley was, I think, a few years younger than him. And so she was obviously like a believer. A believer. Maybe she was believe in boots, but she had a lot of resources. No, I just think that's like being.

[Samantha Mua]

A huge fan of Justin younger years and then marry him. I don't. I don't think there's a Problem with that?

[Laura Lee]

I think that's just like.

[Samantha Mua]

I think hard work, super normal. No, I think that. I don't think that's a problem. I really don't. It's like, he was a huge. One of the biggest celebrities in the world. Oh, my God.

[Laura Lee]

I mean, you couldn't avoid him. You couldn't avoid Justin.

[Samantha Mua]

You were a fan and one of the biggest, biggest celebrities in the world. You know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Samantha Mua]

See the problem with that?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. So basically, it's just kind of showing the different things of, like, you know, like, Selena comes out the cooking show. Haley comes out the cooking show. Selena comes out the beauty brand. Haley comes out the beauty brand.

[Samantha Mua]

Was Haley's cooking show that she came out with the one in her bathroom?

[Laura Lee]

No, it's like a cooking. Cooking.

[Samantha Mua]

Okay.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Yeah. Or like. Like outfits that Selena would wear. Haley would wear them. But it's like, again, it's just like this, like, thing where if you're gonna look for comparison, you're gonna find comparison.

[Samantha Mua]

That's where I'm getting at for sure. Like.

[Laura Lee]

Like, if you're gonna find it, you're go. But the thing is too, that. Where the part where I'm kind of like. That is quite interesting is when you see Justin and Selena at the movies. Like that one movie clip where it's like, they're at the movies, they went to go eat, went to the movies or whatever. And there's like, a crowd of, like, beaver fans and, like, Haley's in the crowd, and it's like, it shows a photo of her in it. So it's showing that Haley is essentially, like, trying to be at places where Justin would be.

[Samantha Mua]

That makes her a stalker. One picture, I think it makes her a fan of a young girl in a crowd. I think it makes her a fan, not a stalker, for sure.

[Laura Lee]

But then it shows all the other experiences.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So it's showing other things that. That people would say that would make her a stalker. The thing is, I think that she was just a fan. She was a big old fan. She loved Justin Bieber. And then she became in closer proximity because of her father and what, you know, her. Her life that she lives. She's a very privileged life. She becomes close proximity. They probably become friends. They start hitting up, and then she, you know, becomes his wife. I just feel like it was a trajectory, even though it's not the most, like, common trajectory, I don't think, you know, that's not the most common thing to happen. But because of what her life is.

[Samantha Mua]

Whenever you're married to Justin.

[Laura Lee]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Samantha Mua]

What's common?

[Laura Lee]

What? What is common? Honestly, I don't know. I just feel like in general, the thing, it makes her look bad, but I feel like they're trying to make her look bad.

[Samantha Mua]

Of course. I just think they're painting the picture they want you to see to can keep this woman against women saga, the narrative going in there, because it catches so much attention. I mean, people love it. They still love it because it's like, you know, the Justin Bieber fan crowd is huge. The Selena Gomez is one of, like, honestly, the biggest fan crowd, like, fan bases in the world.

[Laura Lee]

Haley's too, though. Haley has a lot of fans.

[Samantha Mua]

I. I like Haley a lot. I think I'm very clear in this. But I'm just logically thinking, because this saga has gone on so long, I'm like, baby, they're happy together. And by the way, I just want to say this. You know, there's always a lot of talk like, oh, Justin Bieber this. Justin Bieber's crazy. Look how he's acting. He's so weird. I think he's just fine. I think he knows what he's doing. I think he's been so famous for so long, like, pretty much his whole life, since he was a child, like a kid. And I think he's been talked about and his narrative has been painted without him in it, you know, for so many years, that I think he plays up these characters because he doesn't give a. He doesn't give a. I think he does. He is so wealthy, and they have so much power and success in front of them, behind them, around them. They don't really have to care what people think. So I think. I think, in a way. And listen, guys, I know there's a lot of believers listening, but I think in a lot of ways, he's clowning entertainment. He is clowning the media by blatantly, you know, acting. You know, maybe not the way everybody wants him to act. I think it's his way of, like, just clowning them. And I think, yeah. Rebelling against media in a way. And then they paint these narratives.

[Laura Lee]

That one thing about the, like, he's on so many drugs, like, after those clips went viral, and then he, like, goes on. Cameron is, like, smoking a doobie, and he's like, yeah, see, I feel like he sees that.

[Samantha Mua]

He doesn't give a. Yeah, he doesn't give a.

[Laura Lee]

He's like, I'm just a Bieber. I don't give a.

[Samantha Mua]

No. Doesn't give A. And he doesn't have to because, like, he's already made it, babes. He's already cash the checks, baby.

[Laura Lee]

He has you money. He.

[Samantha Mua]

He performing. He ain't making a new album.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean? He doesn't need.

[Samantha Mua]

He doesn't need you to follow him. So now he's just living his life and he doesn't give a. And then people are like, oh, Haley's so unhappy and needs a real man. Did you see her walking with her gay best friend? And everybody's like, a real man walking with her. I'm like, that's one of her gay best friends. That's not, you know, some straight man.

[Laura Lee]

Right.

[Samantha Mua]

Walking, walking with her. I'm like, you guys try to.

[Laura Lee]

And then they say the same thing about Justin.

[Samantha Mua]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Like, like, he looks so unhappy with Hayley.

[Samantha Mua]

Yes, he does. Yes, they do.

[Laura Lee]

It's literally the same.

[Samantha Mua]

So desperate for them to hate each other and Pursaling and Haley to hate each other. Y'all want Haley out of the picture so bad.

[Laura Lee]

As if Selena would even go back to Justin. Girl, it's never gonna happen. For real.

[Samantha Mua]

It's over.

[Laura Lee]

It is over. She's happily with Benny. And honestly, I'm happy for Selena too. Like, I'm genuinely. I'm like, she looks so happy with Benny. Benny looks so happy with Selena. I'm genuinely happy for them and I'm genuinely happy for Haley and Justin. I'm like, I feel like that's why I think to me, this whole thing is so stupid because I'm like, like this. We're this many years down and they're both in happy relationships and we're still talking about.

[Samantha Mua]

It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Laura Lee]

And we're talking about how Haley's a quote unquote stalker.

[Samantha Mua]

She's not a stalker. And if she was a fan of them and liked his and went to his concert, does that make everyone a stalker? You know? Yes. She was the one that married him, but someone was going to, you know, and she's in the Hollywood scene, you know, so it's like likely someone his age or around his age was probably a fan of him, probably into him, you know, probably saw he dated Selena. Like, all those things are probably true. I don't think it makes her a diabolical stalker that was out to steal him away in a tier 10 year plan.

[Laura Lee]

I think it's iconic.

[Samantha Mua]

It is iconic. It's iconic.

[Laura Lee]

So are people. I was like, are you just mad or people just mad that they didn't get Justin. So Haley was the fan, and she got Justin, but. So you mad? You didn't get to say.

[Samantha Mua]

It's hard to feel like. Or it. Or it's the Selener fans that just want that relationship so bad that y'all gotta let it go, baby.

[Laura Lee]

You got. You gotta let it lie. You got to have to. We have to move on from this saga. It truly is crazy because they've both moved on. So. I mean, this is crazy. I know. I'm like, genuinely. I'm like, you guys, guys, let's not even judge this up, because I feel like Selena is so happy. Like. Like, this is like, what are we doing here? Like, what's happening? And honestly, I. You don't think that if Henry Cavill was like, manny, let's go on a date, girl.

[Samantha Mua]

He's probably done posted so many thirst traps. Get married in 10 years, and you have a paper trail online.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Samantha Mua]

Stalking his.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I did, actually.

[Samantha Mua]

I just want Haley. Haley to come out and be like, yeah, I did. You did, too.

[Laura Lee]

What? Scream from the rooftops. And Haley was like. And you'd stalk him, too.

[Samantha Mua]

She's. She's too coquette for that.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, she's too. Like.

[Samantha Mua]

She would never. She's not messy.

[Laura Lee]

She's too girl boss for that. But the thing is, I live.

[Samantha Mua]

I live.

[Laura Lee]

I would live the full fantasy if she was literally like. And you'd suck them, too, for a check. Oh.

[Samantha Mua]

Oh, I wish.

[Laura Lee]

With every fiber. It might be.

[Samantha Mua]

That's why we didn't marry celebrities, because we'd be messy as.

[Laura Lee]

Right?

[Samantha Mua]

This is the only reason why we'd be messy.

[Laura Lee]

This is the only reason we didn't celebrities.

[Samantha Mua]

I think maybe I was a stalker. And what are you gonna do about it?

[Laura Lee]

I think that's my thing, too, is that I love to take things too far. That's one of my favorite things to do, as you know. And so I would have taken it to. I'd be like. And I did stalk them.

[Samantha Mua]

Huh? And we're married, and guess what?

[Laura Lee]

We have three children together.

[Samantha Mua]

What are you gonna do?

[Laura Lee]

Not one child. I'm like, we have three kids together.

[Samantha Mua]

That two you ought to know about. What are you gonna do?

[Laura Lee]

What are you gonna do now?

[Samantha Mua]

What are you gonna do? You make another.

[Laura Lee]

But I. I would take it too far, and I know I would, which is why I'm not with an alien sister myself. But that's the only reason. But I think it's very camp. And to me, it's just. Honestly, very. Just comical. Like, it's so funny.

[Samantha Mua]

It is.

[Laura Lee]

It's just so funny. And honestly, I'm just happy that both girlies are happy. And at least that's what I'm hoping, that they're both happy and their perspectives.

[Samantha Mua]

You know what I mean? Ignores this in her mansion.

[Laura Lee]

Honestly, give a. I really.

[Samantha Mua]

She's like, I just sold. Sold 20, 000 glosses today.

[Laura Lee]

I'm good, girl. When I found out how much road made in 2024, I'm like, you're good?

[Samantha Mua]

She's like, I don't think she's.

[Laura Lee]

I'm good.

[Samantha Mua]

I don't think she's worried.

[Laura Lee]

I'm chilling.

[Samantha Mua]

I think she might be chilling, guys. I think Haley's chilling. I think Selena's selling rare. Rare, baby.

[Laura Lee]

Rare is. Yeah. Rare is blown every time you sickening as well.

[Samantha Mua]

The liquid blush is sold. Okay.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Just remember that they're honestly. Which is great. I'm like, honestly, at least both women are successful. And that's what makes me really happy.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Because the Internet loves to pit women against each other, just like you said. And the fact that both of them are thriving in their own ways makes me thrilled because it's literally a you to society.

[Samantha Mua]

It is. It absolutely.

[Laura Lee]

I love that.

[Samantha Mua]

And I absolutely love that Our New York influencers boring. Manny.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. I'm just being messy today. Episode for me, but you sure? Oh, no, no. It's so funny, you guys. So this has been, like, for the last week, a big topic of conversation about, are New York City influencers boring? Are they not all the same carbon copy of one another? Because this one girl made a video that was like, I'm so tired. I hate. In New York City, influencers are all the same. They all do the exact same thing, the same exact routine, wear the same things, do their little matcha lattes do like. And they're like, oh, my God, you guys have the busiest, craziest day today. I have to go get my hairs, nails, and tan done. And it's like, oh, I just did so much. I'm like, baby, that's errands. You ran errands. But basically what they're saying is that that is why New York influencers, quote, unquote, influencers are really boring.

[Samantha Mua]

And it became huge.

[Laura Lee]

What's. There's. There's that one creator that talked that was literally, like, responding to it.

[Samantha Mua]

Stitched the video of the girl saying, basically why she hates New York influencers. They're so boring. But she's a New York influence influencer, so obviously she took offense. And I Don't know if people were like, oh, you just thought she was talking about you. I don't know that acquire style necessarily thought she was talking about her. I think she just saw the video.

[Laura Lee]

And she just wanted to defend New York influencers.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

In general.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah. She wanted to piss off me. So she stitched it and the whole time she's like flicking her off and like, you know, you know the whole song and dance. And so then people were coming for acquired style and then all New York influencers trying to defend their boringness. They're like, we're not boring.

[Laura Lee]

It was so camp to me because popcorn, it's so, it's like very like popcorn. But it is funny because a lot of, I feel like in general a lot of influencers, whether it's LA, NY, whatever city it might be, they all start to kind of like become like the same person. Similar. Yeah, similar in a way. There's a lot of similarities with a lot of these creators. A lot of them have this very similar routines and because they're probably seeing other people have similar routines that. And they want to do that and they want to show that because they want to be a creator. Creator. It really is a revolving door when it comes to it. But the thing is, a lot of them, let's call it for what it is, a spade. A spade. They're not really influencers, they're creators. And you like to absorb and see what they're doing because it's fun to watch. But are they really influencing you to buy anything? No.

[Samantha Mua]

That was the realest thing you've ever said. You ate with that one.

[Laura Lee]

I did.

[Samantha Mua]

They're not creators create content, they're creators. Are they influencing you in any way?

[Laura Lee]

No. You're just watching because it's fun.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah, it's fun.

[Laura Lee]

You're watching. It's fun to absorb.

[Samantha Mua]

Watch. It's a fun absorb.

[Laura Lee]

It's a fun observer. It's fun to watch it kind of like Kiki Haha. Like kind of cutesy. Especially if you are that kind of person that enjoys watching the melodic tone where you're kind of just like, okay, cool. Like they're getting ready, right? Like the vibe. If you wanted to see the vibe. Hell yeah.

[Samantha Mua]

Just there for the vibes, man. Yeah. I think a New York influencer is so great for you. And that is not categorizing all New York influencers. It's just like a lot of the well known, bigger ones are fused. That they're fused. They're fuses.

[Laura Lee]

I mean you could Say this thing for LA, though. So for real.

[Samantha Mua]

Same for LA, I think, because LA, the LA influencer scene is like 10 times the size of the New York scene. You get variety because you're gonna get.

[Laura Lee]

There's so many.

[Samantha Mua]

Because there's so many. I mean, think about all the influencers. I mean, you got from Tana to. I don't even know who.

[Laura Lee]

Anyone, Anyone. Any. Literally.

[Samantha Mua]

Joey Graceffa, like to Trisha Paytas to Laura Lee, you know, it's like it can't.

[Laura Lee]

Like there's a lot of difference.

[Samantha Mua]

There's a lot of different influencers because our influencer world is so big in New York, it's smaller, it's a little. It's a little Nichier, obviously than compared to la. But yes, there is a huge pocket of LA influencers that can relate to the exact same thing and are carbon copies of each other and are not influencers, they're content creators. And you're just there for the vibes. For sure. I just think we have a lot more of other options. Look at our tar. Yummy. Like, I mean, my God, I mean, I could go on for days.

[Laura Lee]

Many options here. What they're really thinking about, New York influencer wise, what she's basically saying, it's basically the girlies that wake up, go get Matcha, go do a workout, go do Pilates, just show that that that's their day, get their hair done and be like, oh my God, you guys, that was the craziest day ever. But it's a very specific kind of vibe. It is, because they're filming it in a very specific way.

[Samantha Mua]

People that do it. Yes, exactly. Like in New York it is. And there's a very specific way.

[Laura Lee]

But it doesn't mean that that's the only kind of New York influencer.

[Samantha Mua]

That's true.

[Laura Lee]

That's the thing. There's not. So I understand what people being like. Well, that's not like how all influence New York influencers are. And that's the truth.

[Samantha Mua]

It seems like the majority lean teeter.

[Laura Lee]

What's that girl's fyp? And she's. Is that what she's watching? Is that what she's doing? So she's gonna see. That's all she's gonna see.

[Samantha Mua]

So that's.

[Laura Lee]

What if there's other New York influencers out there that are completely different?

[Samantha Mua]

There are, yeah. And there are, but she's seen this fewer and far between. So she's complaining about seeing the same over and over. And I totally get both sides of it. Is the Thing think I get the New York influencer that's posting the same. The content creator. That's. That she targeted. I. I get them, like, being like, well, me. You know what I mean? But for me, I would be like, I don't give a. What you think. Don't watch my page.

[Laura Lee]

Literally. Who gives a.

[Samantha Mua]

Who gives a. But I also get like, she just. She's on her page venting about what she wants to vent about.

[Laura Lee]

She can do that. That's a prerogative.

[Samantha Mua]

Exactly. And that's the New York. So I get both sides up of it, to be honest.

[Laura Lee]

100.

[Samantha Mua]

That's why it's so, like, it's popcorn.

[Laura Lee]

Whatever. Like, the drama is like, popcorn drama. It's like literally, whatever. Like, it's literally so loosey goosey. At the end of the day, if you like watching New York cultures, hell yeah. If you don't, Hell yeah.

[Samantha Mua]

Yep.

[Laura Lee]

There's no. There's no rhymes or reasons. But like, at the end of the day, what she was talking about is the ones that try to do the same thing as all the other ones because they think that's what they have to do as influencers. That's what she's talking about, though.

[Samantha Mua]

That's a little deeper, I think.

[Laura Lee]

That's what. I think that's what it is. And I think that a lot of creators, they get into, like, this, like, this zone of like, oh, well, the other creators are showing this, so I need to show this too, because I'm a creator and I want to be like them. So I want to make sure. I want to grow.

[Samantha Mua]

I want to be on that level popular.

[Laura Lee]

That's sickening. Yeah, but like, as a creator and influencer, that's kind of like. You do that just because you are, like, in that world and it's what you see.

[Samantha Mua]

Do you know something creators do that gets on my nerves? So I myself as a creator had to stop doing it because it gets on my nerves. So I was like, like, damn, this must be really annoying for my audience and everybody else on the Internet. The holding the product up to the camera, tapping on it and then doing like the ASMR to like, loudly trying to pop the lid off or whatever.

[Laura Lee]

And the thing as you're opening as.

[Samantha Mua]

Opener, yes or no. They do it for, like, all their skincare makeup routine the whole time. And the thing is, at first I was. Yeah, yes. Like that. Every product.

[Laura Lee]

I know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about. Yes. I know exactly what you're talking About.

[Samantha Mua]

I'm like, okay, but see, okay, here's the thing about it. I loved it in the beginning, and it captured my attention.

[Laura Lee]

It got you every.

[Samantha Mua]

So even I would do it because I was like, I really like this. You know, I like this, like, ASMR.

[Laura Lee]

Touch because you implement it into things that you like.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

And that's how probably those creators do things that they like. It's like, oh, I love watching that. I'll do that too.

[Samantha Mua]

Exactly.

[Laura Lee]

And that's how it happens.

[Samantha Mua]

But then I was like, okay, well, if everything every on the Internet's gonna do it, I'm not doing it anymore. Because now it's annoying because then I scroll on my page and I go, every single person's tapping on something and I ain't watching. I'm out. So then I was like, now I have to stop doing this. And I think that's what it is.

[Laura Lee]

That's exactly what it is. You enjoy something that they're doing, so you implement it because you really enjoy doing it. But then that's how you become an overloaded over the. Like, everyone becomes a carbon copy because it's like, everyone sees something that they like to do, and they implement it, and then it's like, oh, that's like, everyone's becoming one thing, one unit. But then the whole fun part about being a creator and influencer is, like, not doing. Having your own personality and your own thing.

[Samantha Mua]

So I also get the girl bitching about the New York influencer. You know, I get 100. I get both sides 100.

[Laura Lee]

As an absorber of content who actually enjoys watching it and someone creates, I can totally see what she's saying. And I can see being a creator, like, implementing things. I'm like, I just really like that they did that. I want to do something like that, too.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

It's so easy to do that.

[Samantha Mua]

Yep.

[Laura Lee]

And you like. I think my audience would like that.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah. If you're a content creator, I think it's just really important that. Sure, get into some trends and, like, follow what's popular, but also stay true to yourself. Keep some originality to it. And also, if you're scrolling on your page and you're seeing it over and over again, chances are your audience, just like everybody else's audience, is sick of seeing it.

[Laura Lee]

They're like, all right, bet, Bet.

[Samantha Mua]

A note I had to take for myself, too. I'm preaching to the choir. But I'm also.

[Laura Lee]

I get it. We get it. You know what's funny? Even. Even a funny thing that I'VE noticed. I'm like, oh, I like that. And do something like that for me. But it's something that I didn't even think about until right in this moment we're talking about it, where I would, like, hold up products I'm going to use and be like, oh, these are things, like, we're testing this out today. But people started, like, I saw a lot of people using, like, a little tray to hold it instead of, like, holding it all in your hands. I was like, that's so genius. Of course. And now I obviously see a lot of people using trays and holding up products because it was something I was noticing. And I like that. Implementing. So it. Like, it's easy how it can kind of just kind of go around that one headband that everyone was using.

[Samantha Mua]

Influencer headband, Great example.

[Laura Lee]

Another huge example of, like, everyone, oh, I like that.

[Samantha Mua]

I hate the headband because I hated it. So overused, I had to hate the headband. I was like, I hate this headband because it was too overused. Two or three people use it. So that's.

[Laura Lee]

People liked it, so they started using it. So it's really, like, a funny thing where, like, it can just happen and you don't even realize it's happening. By the way, as a creator, you can, like, not even realize that it's happening at all. I'm like, whoa, I just did that because I like that that they did that.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Like, and you just. It just is one of those things because you're, you know, you're absorbing content for a living. That's literally what we do. So it's just. It's just fascinating when someone's like, I don't like that they all do the same thing. And it's like, we all do it to the same.

[Samantha Mua]

We all do it, too, and all.

[Laura Lee]

Of us do it to an extent as creators. It is what it is. Like, it happens.

[Samantha Mua]

I'm gonna tell y'all this. This if you're a content creator out there. A lot of times, whenever I come up with an original idea, this is mostly back in my YouTube days, to be honest with you. But whenever I'd come up with original ideas, they would perform the best. And then it would take a couple months before everybody else started doing them, too. And that goes with, like, other people, too, and, like, ideas pass down, pass down, pass down. It becomes a trend, everybody doing it. So I'm not complaining, but I'm trying to give you advice. My more original ideas would always serve me the best until you Know, they kind of filtered out and everybody was doing them, and then they're not original anymore. So then you gotta keep evolving, keep coming up. So, again, going back to it, it's a cycle. It's a cycle.

[Laura Lee]

It really is an absolute cycle. And I agree with you. Like, whenever I've done original things, original ideas, and I've seen people do that, at first it's kind of like, girl. But I did that first. Like, that's so weird. But then at the end of the day, like, you get it because. Yeah, well, content is our evolving door. The whole point is influence. Yeah.

[Samantha Mua]

And you're also.

[Laura Lee]

And I'm mad about influencing. Girl, please.

[Samantha Mua]

You can't.

[Laura Lee]

You can't. You can be mad at that.

[Samantha Mua]

About influencing. That's why.

[Laura Lee]

That's your whole job.

[Samantha Mua]

Yeah, it's the point of the job, so. Well, kind of the point of the job. Content creation. But, yeah, it's an interesting topic, though, because it really makes you think and go, wait a minute, is it good for.

[Laura Lee]

I can literally deep dive on this for.

[Samantha Mua]

So I know.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, do we do a whole episode dedicated to, like, influencer versus content creator? Like, what's the difference? I'm tempted.

[Samantha Mua]

Well, I'm both, I'll tell you that.

[Laura Lee]

Me, too.

[Samantha Mua]

There are times that I create content to just spend time with you guys. Tell you a thought in my head. I have nothing, nothing to influence you on. And then there have times where I'm talking about products strictly that I love, that I genuinely. Influencing love. So I think I'm both a content creator and an influencer.

[Laura Lee]

I think so, too. I think the same for me. We've also been doing this for so long, and we are very honest with ourselves.

[Samantha Mua]

We're podcasters, we're influencers, we're content creators, we're idiots, we're smart, we're CEOs. What aren't we? We're friends.

[Laura Lee]

We're everything. I mean, we are everything.

[Samantha Mua]

That Tea mama.

[Laura Lee]

I had a second wind there for a second, but now I'm. I'm done.

[Samantha Mua]

I don't actually. This is our second episode of the day, so if you're like, Laura, seems.

[Laura Lee]

Like they're not gonna say that.

[Samantha Mua]

No, they're not.

[Laura Lee]

No, you're literally. You've been giving the entire. Don't get me. No, you've been giving. You've been. You've been slaying down. But it is our second episode of the day, and we have been feeling the fantasy. But I got a second wind there for a second.

[Samantha Mua]

Well, guys. Is that it?

[Laura Lee]

I think so.

[Samantha Mua]

All right, guys, we are out of here. Good luck entering the giveaway.

[Laura Lee]

Don't forget to we'll put everything down below.

[Samantha Mua]

Yep. Bye, guys.

[Laura Lee]

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