Love island is BORING us and we’re pissed… let’s discuss

Summary

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Fool Coverage with Manny MUA & Laura Lee

Episode: Love Island Is BORING Us and We’re Pissed… Let’s Discuss
Date: June 19, 2026
Hosts: Manny MUA & Laura Lee

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Episode Overview

In this week’s episode of Fool Coverage, Manny MUA and Laura Lee deliver their signature blend of unfiltered hot takes, beauty and reading recommendations, and behind-the-scenes influencer tea—before unleashing a scathing, hilarious, and detailed breakdown of the current season of Love Island USA. Frustrated with what they see as lackluster drama and “over produced” editing this season, the duo air their grievances, dissect each cast member, and reflect on what makes reality TV truly great (hint: villains!). Along the way, they comment on trending news (heartbreaking bungee accident, celebrity breakups, D’Amelio family drama, Kat Von D rumors), and serve up candid stories from their own lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Peaks & Pits of the Week

• Pits:

  • Laura shares woes about her cats being unruly due to visiting guests waking up early. Their feeding schedules are upended, leading to “absolute hell.”
    • “6 a.m., raise hell. And it does not stop until we get up and feed them.” – Laura [04:00]
  • Manny recounts a traumatic experience with ear blockage caused by overuse of Q-tips. Describes urgent care visit, discomfort, and medical advice.
    • “I’m a Q tipper. I’m cutting back, you guys. I’m an addict. Like, I need to, like, lower my dose.” – Manny [11:38]

• Peaks:

  • Laura begins reading Big Trust, a self-help book about managing self-doubt, and recommends it to anyone struggling with confidence.
    • “You can’t technically get rid of self-doubt... but she’s learned a technique to use it.” – Laura [13:36]
  • Manny raves about going to an Ariana Grande concert, where the “girls and gays” energy made it magical.
    • “It was just nice to go and vibe with a lot of girls and gays... those make the best concerts.” – Manny [22:41]

2. Breaking News & Notable Gossip

• Brazil Rope Swing Tragedy [23:14–28:40]

  • They react with horror to the viral story of a young woman thrown from a rope swing (not true bungee) in Brazil where safety protocols were ignored, resulting in her death.
  • The workers tried to flee; charges filed. Discusses the dangers of adrenaline-fueled tourism and why, as influencers, they always say no to skydiving/bungee PR trip offers.
    • “None of that is worth the risk... these things do happen, unfortunately.” – Manny [27:43]

• Oliver Tree & Helicopter Crash [28:42–31:01]

  • Sympathetic discussion of musician Oliver Tree dying in a helicopter collision in Brazil.
  • Commentary on lax regulations and need for safety improvements.

• Extreme Vacation Activities: Why Rich People Get Bored and Risk It All [26:34–27:03]

  • Discussion on how the ultra-wealthy seek “side missions” (spaceship rides, submarines, squirrel suits) because of thrill-seeking induced by boredom.

• Jelly Roll & Bunny Divorce [32:36–39:07]

  • Deep dive into the 10-year marriage unraveling: drugs, infidelity, public airing of private grievances. Manny notes the complexity and questions of public vs. private sharing by influencers.
    • “Everybody’s relationship is gonna look perfect online. You shouldn’t... show all your dirty laundry.” – Laura [36:56]
    • “You have to be really protective of your relationship when it comes to online things and what you show.” – Manny [37:29]

• D'Amelio Family Drama [39:39–44:54]

  • Breaks down rumors of family financial misuse, estrangement between Charli and her father, sibling divides, and broader issues of “parenting for profit.”
    • “Why are you even going online defending yourself when Charlie’s name is what got you here?” – Manny [41:58]
    • “It just reminds me of like ... just weird stuff with your parents. It feels very, like, advantagey.” – Manny [43:02]
    • Charli’s now 22, ties cut from family business.

• Kat Von D House Fire—Resurfaced Allegations [44:54–49:26]

  • Revisits 16-year-old rumors that Kat Von D set fire to her rental home on purpose, with details about past lawsuits, NDAs, strange “candle everywhere” living situation, and possible insurance motives.
  • They emphasize all is alleged, but recall the rumor’s persistent presence in the LA scene.
    • “It floated around LA that she did this on purpose.” – Laura [46:53]
    • Kat now off the map; KVD rebranded partly over vaccine controversy.

3. Love Island USA: A Deep Dive

Main event — full analysis, hot takes, and complaints about production and cast:

Love Island Key Points [50:18–68:38]:

General Critique:

• This season is “so overproduced” and the drama is “boring as hell.”
• The editing and forced voting mean the “show’s not letting it play out” naturally—producers are “too deep” and “ruining the game.”
  • “I do feel like this season is very produced because there’s no continuity.” – Manny [57:00]
  • “Voting off the people who are actually playing the game. No, you’re not necessarily gonna like them!” – Laura [67:41]

Contestant-by-Contestant Thoughts:
(Timestamps refer to first major commentary on each contestant/couple)

• Trinity: Both hosts’ favorite; “wise beyond her years,” calls things like she sees them. [51:36]

  • “Trinity is just that girl. She’s so wise beyond her years ... she’s keeping it super real.” – Manny [51:37]

• Bryce: Flopping; “no girls are interested.” But Laura thinks Trinity actually likes him now. [52:13]

• Gabriel: Both hosts cannot stand Gabe, calling him “one of the worst,” “should have been a Casa boy,” and “gross” for openly pursuing every hookup. [52:43]

  • “It just comes across kind of gross.” – Manny [53:02]

• Anaya & Casey: Strong couple, but both hosts are annoyed by Anaya “doing too much, too soon” and by Casey’s “grandma” comment about his partner.

  • “She is not allowing him to breathe.” – Laura [53:57]

• Bia: Loved, especially by Manny who “cried when she went home.” They mourn the loss of underdog/outsider contestants. [55:18]

• Katya & Zach: Disagreement – Laura dislikes Zach (“trying to hook up with an invisible bombshell”), Manny likes the couple’s chemistry. [57:36]

  • Notes rumors about several male contestants’ sexuality, which production is now milking for story.

• Corbin: Undeniable hotness; Laura sees him as critical for entertainment value, even if “a nasty boy.”

  • “I like Corbin ... without him in there, it would be a boring show.” – Laura [59:29]
  • Discussion about Corbin’s “AI-like” personality: “All of his answers are very, like, chatGPT.” – Manny [69:14]

• Kenzie: “A total mess, but playing the game right”: the only person stirring the pot as Love Island should.

  • “She is the only one in that house playing Love Island. If more people were doing what Kenzie was doing, we’d have a ball game.” – Laura [60:30]

• Sincere: Was promising, but now seen as toxic and manipulative—“a dog.”

  • “He’s a literal dog.” – Laura [64:13]

• Melanie: Growth arc; disliked at first, now appreciated for self-awareness.

• Soul: “Got dealt a shitty hand,” ostracized, still well-liked.

• Caleb/Sean: Considered “the most normal/safe options” by both hosts as to whom they would couple up with.

• On “lying”:

  • Both hosts acknowledge the lying/backstabbing makes for good TV:
    • “You don’t have to like someone for them to be good for the show.” – Manny [75:05]

Production/Show Format Grievances:

• Voting and producer interference are “ruining” viewer engagement.
  • “The producers screwed up the show ... it was stupid.” – Laura [68:20]
• The need for villains and dramatic players is what makes (or breaks) reality TV.
  • “You have to have the villain ... the most engaging moments are when the villain’s also there.” – Laura [74:50]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I’m a Q tipper. I’m cutting back, you guys. I’m an addict.” – Manny [11:38]
• “You can’t get rid of self-doubt ... but you can use it as a tool.” – Laura [13:36]
• “None of that is worth the risk ... these things do happen, unfortunately.” – Manny [27:43]
• “You have to be really protective of your relationship when it comes to online things and what you show.” – Manny [37:29]
• “It just reminds me of like ... weird stuff with your dad and your parents. It feels very, like, advantagey.” – Manny [43:02]
• “That season is so overproduced ... there’s no continuity.” – Manny [57:00]
• “She is the only one in that house playing Love Island.” – Laura [60:30]
• “If you vote the villains off, the show will be boring as hell!” – Laura [67:41]
• “You don’t have to like someone, but they can be good for the show.” – Manny [75:05]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:53 — Laura’s “pit”: houseguests, cats, and early chaos
• 07:43 — Manny’s “pit”: Q-tip earwax debacle
• 13:00 — Laura’s “peak”: new self-development book
• 20:00 — Manny’s “peak”: Ariana Grande live experience
• 23:14 — Brazil rope swing disaster & influencer thrill-seeking dangers
• 28:42 — Oliver Tree, Brazil helicopter crash, & call for more safety
• 32:36 — Jelly Roll & Bunny public divorce drama
• 39:39 — D’Amelio family rift and financial fallout
• 44:54 — Kat Von D fire allegations resurface
• 50:18 — Love Island in-depth segment begins
• 51:36–68:38 — Cast-by-cast breakdown, production criticism, hottest takes
• 74:50 — The necessity of villains/drama in reality TV

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Tone & Style

Conversational, irreverent, brutally honest, and attuned to influencer/celebrity culture. The hosts alternate between playful banter, heartfelt (and self-deprecating) personal stories, and savage television critique. They aren’t afraid to make enemies—on or off TV—if it means a livelier show.

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For Listeners

You’ll walk away with:

• The full scoop on Love Island USA’s latest season, cast personalities, and what’s been frustrating veteran reality TV fans
• Hot influencer and pop culture news, including tragic mishaps, scandal, and ongoing family feuds
• Manny and Laura’s no-filter opinions on fame, relationships, and what makes for great TV

If you want your reality shows spicy and your podcast recaps with extra “tea,” this episode’s for you.

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Transcript

[Host/Announcer]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Manny Muay]

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[Laura Lee]

Honey Stone Age still in the stone Age. Yes honey I got debt. Whenever my parents pass away I got

[Manny Muay]

it is like to say it shock to my central nervous system. You guys. I'm an addict.

[Laura Lee]

Just what is going on. Welcome to your favorite podcast is full coverage with your host Laura Lee and Manny Muay.

[Manny Muay]

What is up you guys?

[Laura Lee]

We are so happy.

[Manny Muay]

Happy full Friday from the fools themselves. Yes, we have a nice little rapid fire today and I'm so excited because we have a lot of topics. We have a lot and I really am excited actually. Final talk about like Love island eventually because it had started. We haven't filmed since we started Love island so I'm like so stoked to get onto that. But first peaks and pits obviously.

[Laura Lee]

Where should we start?

[Manny Muay]

You're like I love when like Laura. Laura will write out her things like write it out. Not the phone, not in the notes. But it has to be written out.

[Laura Lee]

Honey Stone Age. It's giving still in the stone Age.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

He's chiseling for our listeners. For our chiseler. Well I say we start with My pit. Because those are always a little more interesting.

[Manny Muay]

Juicy.

[Laura Lee]

So we had a friend stay with us this weekend or like this past weekend and for a few days. And we have people stay with us all the time, like family and all. They all come from the east coast, so there's a time difference. So they wake up super early. Yes. Like at 4 and 5 o' clock in the morning. Because that's like the time frame 8 o' clock for them. You know what I mean?

[Manny Muay]

I feel like 8's a little spooky though, though.

[Laura Lee]

Like 5am dead ass. Like 4 and 5am and what happens when that, like. Okay, I have cats. And the problem is my cats can hear.

[Manny Muay]

Uhhuh.

[Laura Lee]

Like, they are like. I mean, it's crazy because we feed them in the morning, but they're on our schedule, our wakey, wakey schedule, which I wake up around seven, but they hear our guests, and every time, like, our families stay with us, they do this.

[Manny Muay]

Uhhuh.

[Laura Lee]

So whenever people are walking around upstairs and they hear toilets flushing and all, they're like, mom and Dad's out.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So they 6:00am, raise hell. Raise hell. And it does not stop until we get up and feed them.

[Manny Muay]

Stop.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Huh? Oh, yeah, Absolutely. Beating our door. Oh, they know how to rattle our door too, to make it like so loud. So that has been. Hell, I'm gonna tell you that. That has been an absolute disaster. It has.

[Manny Muay]

That is horrific.

[Laura Lee]

It is horrific.

[Manny Muay]

The thing is, like, they know your schedule, so they're gonna be like, fine, and it's gonna be good.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, this morning they didn't even wake us up at all. Like, they were like, we're good, we're chilling.

[Manny Muay]

It's fine, you guys. Well, we won't wake up till you guys wake up. Zaya knows to not wake me up, to look at me like, hey, on your phone yet.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

And I'm not. She's like, good if I am. She's like, it's wake.

[Laura Lee]

Do you feed her in the morning?

[Manny Muay]

I feed her in, like, the afternoon time. So she's not fed, like, right in the beginning.

[Laura Lee]

Because she will wake up for it.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah, she doesn't, like, wake me up for it. And because I let her graze throughout the day with her food, she, like, ends up eating some of it at, like, night time too.

[Laura Lee]

We let two of our cats graze, but one is obese and addicted to food and won't eat till she throws up. So it us up because we can't leave food out for the other two cats. Because she'll just eat. Eat it all and go throw it up. So we can't have that. So we kind of have to like, spring, like, anytime. The other two cats, they're normal, so anytime they ask for food, which is about 25 times a day, we give them a little bit and they'll try to eat it all. And then to make sure she doesn't eat so much, we're trying to limit. But in the morning, they get their smalls and they love it.

[Manny Muay]

Oh, and that's it. It's the smallest.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. They go crazy for it. So. Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

I walk into your house and you had just fed them dank. It is like, say it. Shock to my central nervous system. There's nothing. Like, when it hit, that fishy scent hits your nostrils and you're like, oh, my God. And I know the cats love it. So it's like, yes. It's like amazing, but it's like, shocking.

[Laura Lee]

Dude. We'll literally open our back doors when we feed. You have to air it.

[Manny Muay]

You have to.

[Laura Lee]

It's so.

[Manny Muay]

It's fierce.

[Laura Lee]

Stink. Stinks.

[Manny Muay]

Every time I want a cat, I think about those things and I'm like, think about poopy. No, it's the poopy. All I have to do is the litter. Litter too. It's like, there's too much.

[Laura Lee]

It's a lot. But dogs are a lot too, so

[Manny Muay]

you know what I mean?

[Laura Lee]

Like, you're picking your poison at this

[Manny Muay]

point and your drug.

[Laura Lee]

It's true.

[Manny Muay]

It's a little bit of both.

[Laura Lee]

So me and Ty have decided that no one can ever stay at our house

[Manny Muay]

because they hear it from the east coast. West coast.

[Laura Lee]

You have to say silent, silently in your bed. 7am it's so funny.

[Manny Muay]

Laura was you guys. Laura sends me text at 7am I sure did. I don't respond to at least 9:30.

[Laura Lee]

It's up, guys.

[Manny Muay]

And then I text her at like 11pm yeah. And I don't give a response until like 7. I'm like,

[Laura Lee]

till 7 o'. Clock. I did. I'd be texting you random.

[Manny Muay]

No, literally. And I'm like.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, I had a thought.

[Manny Muay]

It'll be like 8 in the morning.

[Laura Lee]

I got to start texting Z. Our friend Z wakes up early.

[Manny Muay]

He wakes up early.

[Laura Lee]

He'll hit me back in the chat early. He's the only one.

[Manny Muay]

He does. We'll be in the group chat and I'll wake up and there you guys are already going. I'm like, what the fuck are you

[Laura Lee]

talking about the group chat was popping off last night. 87 text messages. Because y' all were watching Love Island, Line and live and I was an episode behind, so I couldn't open.

[Manny Muay]

Oh. Mind you, whenever I'm. If I'm not watching with you guys, I'm our chat.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

Okay. So I don't like and not tempted to go in because I'm very tempted to go and look inside. So I have to mute our chat to make sure I'm like, okay, let me. I'll unmute it when I'm starting.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

That's why I'm part of my pit is that it's so hot in here. So, Tyler, can we turn on the ac?

[Laura Lee]

What the fuck? I'm comfortable.

[Manny Muay]

No, I'm not comfortable. I'm uncomfortable.

[Laura Lee]

I feel like the air is at a great time.

[Manny Muay]

It's not. Tyler, we need to turn on EC stat. But my real pit is that I got a fucking ear blockage. How crazy is this?

[Laura Lee]

I want you to tell them.

[Manny Muay]

So I posted a photo of at urgent care on my story and I was like, oh, this is so.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, you were vague booking.

[Manny Muay]

I have. I was vague booking. I have never in my life gotten like this happen to me where I got out of the shower and I couldn't hear out of my left ear. I was literally like, this is so weird. Like, I've never had it where it was like a complete closure. Okay. So I was like, I truly. It's as if I have a. It's basically as if I had a sound canceling earphone in. So it's like, it just feels like a seal and you can't hear anything crazy. So I was like, wait, this is so weird. Like, this has never happened before. So I go to urgent care because I'm like, I cannot hear out of my left ear. Like, this is not normal. And I am the type that will use Q tips. That's my problem. I do use Q tips.

[Laura Lee]

I know he digs, so I don't go that far. Yes, you do. I know you do, honey. That Q tip is halfway.

[Manny Muay]

Maybe that Q tip.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, it is.

[Manny Muay]

I'm tickling my brain. I literally. So I. I'm a Q tipper. So I get to the urge of care and I'm like, can you like going on? Because I was like, part of me was scared. I'm like, is there like something in it? Like a bug? I was freaking out. So then I go in and they're like, do you use Q tips? And I was like, I Do use Q tips. And they're like, that's problem number one. And they were basically saying that on my left ear, I had, like, a full seal of, like, this dude had

[Laura Lee]

pushed his earwax into, like, shoved it

[Manny Muay]

like, you're my hole. There was no, like, through. It was just, like, a sheath. And I could not hear because there was an actual, like, blockage of my own earwax from pushing it in from my Q tips. So then they were like, we had to do, like, a saline. Like, fl. Like, we have to do flushes in your ear to get out the wax. The wax. But the thing is, like, it's so. You guys. It's the weirdest thing. So they're like. They warm up water and they're shooting. They're like, shooting water into here. It's like, pressurized water.

[Laura Lee]

And you're kind of like, are you laying down?

[Manny Muay]

You're, like, sitting. You're, like, kind of doing this so they can, like, get it. And it's like you're funneling out. It's like, funneling out into, like, a bigger vat. And you see, like, tiny little, like, ear waxes, like, particles.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

So the thing is, so they were doing it, and they're like, oh, like, not enough is clear. Like, it's not, like, being cooperative or whatever. And I was like, God, of course it's not like, what the. So then the water ends up getting, like, not cold, but it's, like, room temperature, right? It's getting. It's getting colder as we go because it was heated up. And so when they started, they flushed it, like, 10 times. I'm not kidding. Like, they were shooting it, like, 10 times in by, like, the night. 8th and 9th. I'm starting to go like. Like, I'm getting dizzy. I'm starting to get like, hey, guys. Like, I'm feeling, like, lightheaded. Like, I'm gonna faint. Like, I literally felt like crazy. And they're like, the water's not warm enough. And so they had to reheat it. And they're like. So basically they were saying that when the. When water is cold and hits you inside your ear canal, it makes you, like, discombobulated.

[Laura Lee]

How crazy?

[Manny Muay]

Which I did not know that that was, like, a thing, but it will make you kind of, like, feel like, like, very, like, dizzy. And I was like, wait, this is so strange. So I ended up, like, clearing it out. And they gave me, like, little drops to help, like, break down ear wax. Like, use break down earwax drops instead of, like, Q tips.

[Laura Lee]

Digging in them, you know, with Q tips. So we need to get you a Q tip sponsorship.

[Manny Muay]

They're like, hey, so we would never want to sponsor you ever again.

[Laura Lee]

He calls a medical.

[Manny Muay]

And it's funny because they literally say on the things, they're like, do not use Q tips for, like, your ears and stuff. But, like, who doesn't use Q tips in your ears?

[Laura Lee]

Not me.

[Manny Muay]

I don't. Yeah, you're not. You don't know it either. And you do. Never. I'll do it. Not every time after I shower, but several times.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, I know you're.

[Manny Muay]

Several times a week.

[Laura Lee]

I know you are in, like, every

[Manny Muay]

other day, I'll Q tip. And I'm like, okay. So I'm trying to. Since then.

[Laura Lee]

You better not since then.

[Manny Muay]

Two weeks ago, I've done it only one time.

[Laura Lee]

Stop it.

[Manny Muay]

So that's pretty good for me.

[Laura Lee]

You're jam.

[Manny Muay]

I'm cutting back. I'm cutting back, you guys. I'm an addict. Like, I need to, like, lower my dose.

[Laura Lee]

You haven't learned from this.

[Manny Muay]

I have learned. It's only been one time. So luckily, this time I did it. It was actually only to get the water out of my ear from the thing. So I didn't actually go in because I was kind of, like, paranoid. I go, like. Like, a little swabbing around, like, the opening, and I was like, okay. That was the only time I did it.

[Laura Lee]

He's gonna end up in the emergency room again. Death.

[Manny Muay]

They're like, hey, so listen, there's another.

[Laura Lee]

We lost you.

[Manny Muay]

Okay. There goes your drum. They literally, when they're looking, they're like, we don't see your eardrum. Like, yeah, can't hear. Can't hear anything, babe. That's kind of like the whole point is why I'm here. So it's crazy, though, when they started the blast of water, like, the pocket had opened, like, so apparently it's like this, and the center, like, opened up a little bit, and they're like, oh, you have a little hole now so you can hear. So it's so fascinating that it's like, oh, you can really, like, just not hear from that.

[Laura Lee]

Fascinating, right?

[Manny Muay]

The water. The cold water thing really threw me. I was, like, shocked that I was getting so, like, I would never believed if I wasn't physically getting busy.

[Laura Lee]

Surprised they did that at the urgent care. It feels like an ear, nose, and throat doctor, but I guess they're talking a box. They do everything.

[Manny Muay]

I was hoping I was literally like, please let them, like, do Something like this easy. Because they just said like, it's A. And I asked, I was like, do people come into this? Like, is this like a common thing? And they're like, it's super common.

[Laura Lee]

Oh.

[Manny Muay]

Because it can happen to people. Like they use Q tips. So I'm like, dang, let's stop using Q tips. Stop using Q tips, everyone.

[Laura Lee]

Don't do it.

[Manny Muay]

We literally have to stop using Q tips. It's pissing me off.

[Laura Lee]

My peak is I started a new book, it's called Someone actually on Tick Tock was talking about like my top books and something about or whatever that I've read that was like life changing. And I'd read a lot of them and they were all good. So I believe what this person was saying. You know what I mean? Whenever you listen. Yeah. It's called Big Trust and trust funds. I wish I got a trust fund to read about, honey. I got debt whenever my parents pass away.

[Manny Muay]

Okay.

[Laura Lee]

Did not get money. I got a. I got a bill.

[Manny Muay]

I got a bill.

[Laura Lee]

No text, just checks, just bills. And I was like, okay, great. The book is called Big Trust and it's all about self doubt. And this person who's like went to school for psychology and how the human brain works and all has learned to. By the way, I just started, I'm on chapter one. So I, you know, it's, it's very good. It's very good so far. But she basically is saying how you can't technically get rid of self doubt because you're a human being and it's meant to be there to protect you and keep you safe. Like his primordial brain. Like, yeah, you're always going to have it. But she's learned a technique to use it. So I'm learning about that. So if you're a person, it's a short read too. I think you guys are like, if you're a person who's like constantly struggling with self doubt, you would like this book.

[Manny Muay]

I like that. So I think, I think everyone chugs with self doubt.

[Laura Lee]

They do. That's kind of what the book was saying. And it just really is like how much is it affecting you?

[Manny Muay]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean?

[Manny Muay]

So like what level?

[Laura Lee]

So they said there's two main ways. Self doubt. I'm sure there's a bunch of ways, but like two very popular ways that affects people. It affects people where they can't do something because they're too self doubting themselves. And like they listen to the critics in their head and so they won't do anything. And then the overachiever is a self doubter too because they are doubting what they're doing. So they have to always be doing something and winning never feels good. So there's like, it's like the opposite. But both are self doubt related problems. So they teach you how to use it like a tool because it's always going to be there.

[Manny Muay]

Right. You should might as well utilize it and not like try to fight it so much because it's like it is what it is. It's going to be there.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. So I will keep reading our report back. But anyways, the book's called Big Trust and it was 1.99 on my Kindle.

[Manny Muay]

That's it.

[Laura Lee]

That's it. Yeah. And what so I always. It's nice. That's. This is one thing is nice about having a Kindle versus a real book is you can read the reviews. They have all the reviews. There's like 400 reviews and they were all like really, really, really good.

[Manny Muay]

Also it only be 199. I know, that's amazing. Also like I like whenever I buy a book on my Kindle, it's way cheaper than if I'm buying it hard.

[Laura Lee]

Way cheaper.

[Manny Muay]

So I'm like I love this.

[Laura Lee]

And it's nice too. The Kindle's nice too because like you know if you're reading a book you have to wait for it to come in the. You can just order the book right then and there and start reading immediately. Yep. That's also bonus.

[Manny Muay]

Love it. I'm 76% into my second book of

[Laura Lee]

the one I'm reading.

[Manny Muay]

So it's like I'm glad that I still like that. It tells me cuz I'm like reaching a goal.

[Laura Lee]

Stop that train. Uhhuh.

[Manny Muay]

You guys need to watch stop that train, RuPaul's movie on Friday. And so fun. Hilarious camp. So sick.

[Laura Lee]

Would Tyler not think it's hilarious?

[Manny Muay]

You think it's so funny. It's very like scary movie.

[Laura Lee]

Like it's just like very scary movie. It's like a scary movie but just like drag queens as the actors. But there's more than drag queens in that.

[Manny Muay]

Oh yeah. There's like tons of people, tons of celebrities. It's so funny. So basically the premise is like RuPaul is the president of the United States. President Gagwell. And there's a train that just like it's a runaway train.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

And they're trying to figure out like how to stop this train from like crashing. So it's like shows the inside of the train what's happening.

[Laura Lee]

She fun.

[Manny Muay]

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[Laura Lee]

And now for a bit of breaking news. Between your breaking news with me, the GEICO Gecko, here are some things you ought to know today. People who switch their car insurance to Geico save about $900 a year. Experts are calling that nice to know. Also, plants can hear when bees buzz. My ficus just heard that. And finally, animal experts have confirmed that goats have regional accents. I'm getting a hint of Irish there.

[Manny Muay]

It feels good to get good news. It feels good to Geico. It is such a funny ass movie.

[Laura Lee]

Like so good.

[Manny Muay]

Absolutely recommend if you like like really ridiculous humor that's just like over the top camp where it's like, they'll be like, you leeches. And then it goes. It pans and it's like leeches in a chair.

[Laura Lee]

It's not like she's like, you leeches. You're such a leech to the reporters.

[Manny Muay]

The reporters, yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Sitting in the chairs and they're like.

[Manny Muay]

So it's like if you would like ridiculous, like just stupid humor, like you would really like it. I absolutely recommend hilarious. What's my peak? Oh, my God. Ariana Grande concert.

[Laura Lee]

Oh my God.

[Manny Muay]

So I was already living the fantasy Saturday. And I truly was. I was that girl. You guys. I was.

[Laura Lee]

You were.

[Manny Muay]

I knew every song. I would listen to the soundtrack of the set list of like, what it was gonna be played. I knew every single word, every single song.

[Laura Lee]

What's your favorite song? What was the song?

[Manny Muay]

The song that like really got me together was Eternal Sunshine. Okay. Because she did this cool thing where she's like, hey, can everyone please be quiet real quick? So it's like everyone silences. And she goes like. And then she like records it. Have you seen the finale of Off Campus? Okay, so it's kind of similar.

[Laura Lee]

One episode.

[Manny Muay]

That's what I asked. So she's doing this thing where she's like. And she like, we'll sing and then she'll like record that. And then she would be like. And she records that. And then so basically she like creates a melody in like of herself. And then she sings her song over the melody of like what it is. So she creates like all the sounds for it.

[Laura Lee]

Like what do you. What do they call college? You know that do acapella.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah. So she's almost like acapelling it, but

[Laura Lee]

recording it with the music, with her voice.

[Manny Muay]

Yes. So she did that. But it was like really magical looking because it was like stars and like magic and it was just all over the place. And it was just like a really cool thing because there's moments where it's just her she's belting because she's a really good singer live. Like she's actually very good.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, amazing.

[Manny Muay]

And there's like the bangers that. And then she has like the dancers and she's like going. And it's like going crazy. So it's like, it's kind of like a nice balance. Balance of different songs where it's like she had to rain on me, which I like love that song. So I was like, oh my God, her best song. But that's like, hello.

[Laura Lee]

That's such a Gaga song.

[Manny Muay]

Why am I forgetting the one she did with Zen? That's like so famous.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, huh.

[Manny Muay]

Is it One last. Is it One last time? I'm like forgetting the name of it.

[Laura Lee]

Like I think it is One last time.

[Manny Muay]

But I think it's like that one was like such a banger as well. What is it looking? We're looking up right now because I'm like having a brain fart.

[Laura Lee]

But she saw her and that guy broke up. Ethan. Ethan Slater and her broke up.

[Manny Muay]

I saw spongebob broke up and they broke up like months ago. Apparently they did.

[Laura Lee]

He probably went back to his wife. Do you think she ain't taking his whack ass? Break free.

[Manny Muay]

Break free. I don't know why it, like, was not.

[Laura Lee]

That's the zest.

[Manny Muay]

But she did that one and that was. She needs to break free. Seriously. So, yeah, that was. It was just a really great concert and I loved it and it was just nice to go and just like be there and vibe with a lot of girls and gays. Like, it's like Ariana fans or a lot of emergency Girls and gays.

[Laura Lee]

Those make the best concerts.

[Manny Muay]

Those are the best.

[Laura Lee]

Get the straights out. Oh, wait, I'm the straight.

[Manny Muay]

Straight men.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, man.

[Manny Muay]

Amen. So it's just nice. It was nice to go there with like, be in that vibe in that world. And it's like I was literally going up the stairs, like to get to our section and like I was going up the escalator and there's people there and I saw a bunch of people, the crowd, everyone's like. So it's like our like, people. It's just like. It was Just so fun to see people that were there. I got, I got take a photo with a bunch of people. So just really fun. It was a great, really great concert. I would go again. That's how much I liked it.

[Laura Lee]

I love it. Well, shall we jump into Rapid Fire?

[Manny Muay]

Let's jump right in. Let's leave.

[Laura Lee]

I want to start with a bungee jump situation. Because that story to me is crazy.

[Manny Muay]

So insane. Let's definitely start there.

[Laura Lee]

So in Brazil, they had. It's almost like. Also, this wasn't technically bungee jumping. It was like a rope swing in between two mountains. Like you like jump off, but then like you swing.

[Manny Muay]

But in a way it's like bungeeing because you're using a bungee.

[Laura Lee]

It is. So this girl went to, I think it was called like Skull island or something like that. It's like the name of the rock that you go do it off of. And this girl was 21 years old. She went there and they filmed her. So there's a filmer and three men. And three men. The way they do is they pick you up and they like literally throw you off the clip. Like throw your body off the clip, but then you have ropes attached to you and then you swing.

[Manny Muay]

It was her husband filming. I did not see. I didn't. Beyonce did not see that.

[Laura Lee]

How did he not? Okay, you guys. So there was no cords attached to her. No one remembered to attach, by the way.

[Manny Muay]

Everywhere you can actually see the video,

[Laura Lee]

you see them throw her off.

[Manny Muay]

Throw her off.

[Laura Lee]

But how did her fiance or whoever the. Her. Her person not see that there was no cords on her?

[Manny Muay]

Oh, I would have been like, oh,

[Laura Lee]

we go before they pick me up.

[Manny Muay]

Absolutely.

[Laura Lee]

I don't understand how that happened.

[Manny Muay]

Also the thing is like, you can be like, let's say like strapped in, but don't have the cord attached. Like where it's like you can feel like you're strapped. Like, and you have like things on your ankles and like that. And so you would automatically think like, okay, it's like you're gonna be good to go. And again she's being lifted off the ground. So she's not like, see? Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Recording can. Clearly there's no cords on her body.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah. Cuz it's like if you just see someone and that has like latches on their ankle, no cords, and they're about

[Laura Lee]

to throw her off 130 foot cliff. Just to know that it's 130 foot cliff.

[Manny Muay]

The video is like, are you ready for the.

[Laura Lee]

By the way, there's Two crazy parts about this. She lived when she hit crazy. She felt the hit. That is the craziest part. And it's so sad. And a woman came to her, I guess saw her, ran to her, told her she was going to be okay. Which is. It was a nurse. I was happy the nurse told her she was going to be okay. Because if you can imagine feeling your body smack and the relief and then she passed very, very quickly.

[Manny Muay]

I'm so glad she told you.

[Laura Lee]

Ready for the crazy part?

[Manny Muay]

You're going to be fine.

[Laura Lee]

The three guys try to flee.

[Manny Muay]

You're joking.

[Laura Lee]

No. They try to flee into the jungle. After they did it, they try to run and the police got them. So now they're getting homicide charges right now.

[Manny Muay]

Good. And also like malpractice too.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. But can you believe they try to flee after they did it?

[Manny Muay]

Girl.

[Laura Lee]

They literally took a 21 year old girl on camera and threw her off a cliff. And the crazy part is she didn't die on impact.

[Manny Muay]

Dude, honestly, like, if it was me, like that went down, it's like I don't like.

[Laura Lee]

I know, I know.

[Manny Muay]

I would want to like be really crazy. Like horrific.

[Laura Lee]

Is that Friday we were like, all. Me and the gays all went to see the movie and we were all talking to each other. We were like, what's the crazy thing you would do? Like, what's the crazy thing you would do? And Gabe was like, I've been skydiving, so, you know, I'm done. Done with that. Me and Z and Manny were like, we will not go skydiving. Like, I said I would go bungee jumping. I.

[Manny Muay]

And you were like, I'll squirrel dive.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. You were like, you wanted to do squirrel diving, which is also.

[Manny Muay]

It's not gonna happen. But we were saying that if we had a trillion dollars, by the way,

[Laura Lee]

we don't need a trillion dollars to go squirrel diving.

[Manny Muay]

We don't.

[Laura Lee]

But there's side missions.

[Manny Muay]

Side missions.

[Laura Lee]

Like the submarine that pops.

[Manny Muay]

Yes, but what I was saying is

[Laura Lee]

that's a side mission.

[Manny Muay]

Because when you're that rich, you get so bored so fast. And you're bored. Like you rebored. You do stupid things because you're like, I need my next fix. Because they're rich and they have everything in the world. So it's like you start to do crazy things like squirrel jump and scuba

[Laura Lee]

dive with a submarine.

[Manny Muay]

You know what I'm saying? You do stupid, stupid stuff. So go to outer space. It's go to outer space.

[Laura Lee]

That's another. You said You. That was your first one.

[Manny Muay]

I go to the moon.

[Laura Lee]

But we were like, if you're like a multi billionaire, what are some stupid side missions you were doing? We were just having dumb conversations. And I brought up bungee jumping. And then Manny is like, I say, you're gonna take that off. I'm taking that off the roster. You know what? I'm not going to space. I'm not going to submarine. I'm not going to the Mariana Trench. I'm not skydiving, and I'm not bungee jumping, and I'm not damn sure not squirrel gliding down a mountain.

[Manny Muay]

I know.

[Laura Lee]

Take that one off your. It ain't worth it.

[Manny Muay]

It's not worth it. It's not. None of that. None of those things is worth.

[Laura Lee]

It's not worth it risk.

[Manny Muay]

And I think that's the problem is that, like, a lot of these things that are, like, the adrenaline rush, and that's, like, the reward you get for adrenaline. It's like.

[Host/Announcer]

Like.

[Manny Muay]

Well, none of that is worth the risk of actually, like, passing away. And these things do happen, unfortunately. The reality is that it does happen. And we've been on, like, trips where we've, like, they asked us, do we want to go skydiving? Multiple times, brand trips. And we say, no, say no. And weeks later, it comes out like that, that company's plane went down.

[Laura Lee]

That's what happened with Tart Girl. I. Influencer skydiving. And then the next week, the plane crashed and killed everybody. That company, same plane, same.

[Manny Muay]

How crazy is that? It's like you're one week from death. Yes. Mind you, I didn't do it. I said no.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Manny Muay]

But, like, again, it's just one of those things where it's like, I just don't think that the risk is worth the reward. And the fact that she, like. Like, they just threw her off and she completely passed away. It's just, like, horrific.

[Laura Lee]

It's. It's.

[Manny Muay]

It's horrific.

[Laura Lee]

Horrific. And the fact they try to flee after they did it, crazy.

[Manny Muay]

I think there was, like, what, six men charged total, though. Like, six people involved.

[Laura Lee]

Involved. Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah. Which is so crazy.

[Laura Lee]

Brazil's going through it. Because also, Oliver Tree died in Brazil. If you guys don't know Oliver Tree, just type him in your music and you'll know his songs for sure. He's amazing. Night dj.

[Manny Muay]

It's funny, when I was. When I was. When I saw the. The headline, I was like, I didn't know if. If I knew who Oliver Chi was. And then I Realized that like he's done a lot of songs. I was like, oh my God. I totally am absolutely aware. But sometimes it's like you. I don't core like faces sometimes where I'm like, oh yeah. Or even like the names I just like knew something. I was like, oh, I did not know that was them. But that was crazy too.

[Laura Lee]

He sings that song Don't Fred.

[Manny Muay]

Just like that.

[Laura Lee]

You know. You don't know. So he was 32, had a nine year old son and two in Brazil. Baby, I ain't going to Brazil. I'm done with this. What the is happening? Two helicopters crash into each other. Y' all ain't got no.

[Manny Muay]

That's what happened.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. No Air traffic control.

[Manny Muay]

Wait. And then someone another. There was a crater that was in there too. Like a YouTuber that died too.

[Laura Lee]

They must have been in the. Was he in Oliver's helicopter or was he in the other helicopter?

[Manny Muay]

And Oliver's. I think. Oh my God. He was like a news reporting. I just saw in the headline that was like he was like a news reporting channel or like he would report on new like not news news but like in like a campy fun way. Which again I wasn't aware of his work either. But the fact that that is. I think we just start working on some regulation.

[Laura Lee]

It said kills. Oh my God, girl. Six passengers died.

[Manny Muay]

Six from the. From the helicopter crash. Yeah, read it off.

[Laura Lee]

What is it says firefighter said two helicopters collided over Rito Rio de Janeiro and crashed. And yeah, basically they haven't been able to identify all the bodies. This is NBC.com news and that it happened just early in the morning before 9am 5. They found five people dead so far. And then the second aircraft had people in it too. So I think, you know, another person was in that one. So six total.

[Manny Muay]

Dude.

[Laura Lee]

It landed on top of people's cars too. In a parking lot that the helicopter crash did. Yeah, it's crazy. And they burst into flames. It's crazy.

[Manny Muay]

Baby, we need some regulation, baby.

[Laura Lee]

Whatever the. What is happening? It's wild.

[Manny Muay]

Like what is.

[Laura Lee]

I'm stick to ziplining.

[Manny Muay]

See, ziplining. It's. Which is funny because that in itself is like scary. If you're ziplining over a crazy.

[Laura Lee]

Let me tell you.

[Manny Muay]

But it's way.

[Laura Lee]

I don't. I think this girl was in South America. I don't think she was specifically in Brazil, but she. I saw the story. She went ziplining and it broke and she fell and she hit some rocks and got some cuts, but she was okay. Got a flesh eating disease in the algae in the rocks. And they had to remove both of her legs and both of her arms.

[Manny Muay]

You're joking.

[Laura Lee]

No, I am not. And she was a young girl and now she has no limbs.

[Manny Muay]

The flesh eating got her that bad

[Laura Lee]

that she had to kill it. Uhhuh. All four limbs. I'm so done with everything. Bab.

[Manny Muay]

What the hell?

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Muay]

See? Zip. Now I'm scared Ziplining.

[Laura Lee]

Me too. I'm not.

[Manny Muay]

See the problem? Too many, many, too many things happen in the world that I'm like. It's so easy to fear those things because it's like, there's just so much that can go wrong in situations that's like, well. But then you're like, okay, am I being a hermit? Like a bubble?

[Laura Lee]

So it's like, I know it's a balance, babe.

[Manny Muay]

But see, the thing is that the problem is I've ziplined so many times, I'm like, oh, I can zipline. It'll be fine. I'll be fine every time. That's not the case. Obviously you can.

[Laura Lee]

I think hers was like a major zip line too. You know what I mean? Like, there's some like, rinky dink ones

[Manny Muay]

where it's like, okay, but also it's like, I wonder if it's like, what? I don't. Maybe I just don't want. If I'm ziplining, I want to do it over like water or like, you know, not that steep, if that makes sense. I don't want to be too, too steep.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, we have another story. Jelly Roll and Bunny, his wife are divorcing, which broke in the news. And then she's already shaded him in a comment saying he, like, covered like, I believe it was like a Nirvana or Nickelback song, like a rocker song. And she was like, he basically saying, he always flops at that anyways, so it's leaking out, honey.

[Manny Muay]

So they've been get. They were together for 10 years.

[Laura Lee]

10 years together. And then I think she had said, Ty, did she say he cheated on her and all back in the day whenever he was doing drugs and like, yeah, like on her podcast, she spilled so much tea about him. And it's been very controversial, I believe, because people are like, damn, she like,

[Manny Muay]

really earrings us out in a way.

[Laura Lee]

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[Manny Muay]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Manny Muay]

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[Laura Lee]

Start your GoFundMe today at gofundme.com that's gofundme.com gofundme.com this message reflects one person's experience. She was stripper and he had drug problem. So the relationship was, you know, one people had a lot of eyes on because it was very interesting. And they became like this famous musician who now, girl, I ain't gonna lie. Like at his concerts, he'd be doing like a preaching thing. And I'm like, now jelly roll preaching

[Manny Muay]

like Chris, like Christian teaching. Oh, the gospel vibes. Really? Yeah. Maybe it's because, like, in his mind, he's, like, reformed from maybe, and so he feels like. I don't know, the need to call it.

[Laura Lee]

I think so. I do. I think that's probably the idea there.

[Host/Announcer]

There.

[Manny Muay]

I do always find that very fascinating when it's kind of like the. That. What would you say? It's like, I found God again vibes.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. But I don't know. It's always.

[Manny Muay]

It gets spooky.

[Laura Lee]

It does. Because it's like, the concert isn't like a Christian concert. I don't know. So, you know, it's just like, all of a sudden. I don't know. I don't know. I want to say too much and piss the people off, but it's an interesting take. Whenever I see him do it, I'm like. Like, I don't know about this, but anyways, I think also she, like, talked. But the thing is, she talked a lot of good things about their marriage all the time and, like, try to, like, prove that they had a good marriage all the time on podcast. I think the thing was. And then people were like, see, it was. It's all fake. She's fake as. But the thing is, you can't expect people to air out their dirty laundry. Like, why would she do that? Why would she be like, hey, so I hate my husband. You know what I mean?

[Manny Muay]

Of course not.

[Laura Lee]

Like, people are not gonna air out that they have a bad relationship. Everybody's relationship is gonna look perfect online. Because you shouldn't.

[Manny Muay]

Well, you. Because you show a lot of, like, the good parts.

[Laura Lee]

You should. Well, why the. You gonna.

[Manny Muay]

Instead of finding every time.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, like, that would be crazy also.

[Manny Muay]

And the thing is, like, I feel like that tends to buy people in the ass. Like, I've seen people, like, talk about.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

Like, their relationships and talk about, like, crazy, and then it ends up biting them in the ass later. And it's like, maybe if you guys didn't talk about, like, that one thing, then it wouldn't be talked about as much when that thing happens again or something along those lines.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

So it's like, you have to be like, really? I feel like you have to be really protective of your relationship when it comes to online things and what you show.

[Laura Lee]

And maybe that's what people were feeling Bunny wasn't doing whenever she was, like, just airing everything out in a way of, like, the past with them and all that kind of stuff. Maybe because there's, like. Whenever I saw they were getting divorced, a lot of the comments were talking about her.

[Manny Muay]

And that well, of course I always want to lean the girl. Like, they always want me. The woman. Like, what'd she do? It's always like. That's, like, what it always feels like to me at least, but. But I feel like there's aspects of sharing things that could be helpful for people to be like, hey, we went through this and we made it through this because this is how we've did it. There's that aspect, right, where it's like, people can share in the way of, like, really trying to help, but then sometimes when you share in the. Even the asset of trying to help, people can utilize that information and twist it to be like, well, that happened to you.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

You know what I'm saying? So then that comes to bite back. To bite you way later on. So it's sad. It makes me sad because it's like they were together for such a long time and you don't listen to Jelly Roll. I wonder if I know, like, any of his songs. Give me an example. I'd be like, what's like, his most popular song? And did it go tick tock famous? Because then I would probably know. Okay, is each country.

[Laura Lee]

I think he teachers country. He teeters country.

[Manny Muay]

Like, the way Tyler's singing right now.

[Laura Lee]

Country rock. That song is very country.

[Manny Muay]

Okay, okay. But I have been getting into country Lingley, so.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, she's broken through to the world.

[Manny Muay]

She's poking through.

[Laura Lee]

Casey Musgraves broke through.

[Manny Muay]

Oh, honey. That's what I'm saying. Like, that is my kind. Some other girlies break through the pretty girl country. Is my pretty girl country.

[Laura Lee]

You don't like Miranda Lambert?

[Manny Muay]

I have to hear some more.

[Laura Lee]

She has a good. She has a good get. Okay, we're going to get copyright strike now.

[Manny Muay]

That's the song I know. That's the song I know. The one with Shabi.

[Laura Lee]

Shabzi has good country music that has blood over to.

[Manny Muay]

Oh, that's like. He has some great songs. Y. I don't know any of the songs.

[Laura Lee]

Definitely not Charlie D' O girl.

[Manny Muay]

Can we talk about the dilios right now with the fam. The family dynamic with the dad.

[Laura Lee]

Crazy. Okay, so is the mom and dad married?

[Manny Muay]

I think so, yeah. I think they're together. God, I'm a huge fan of the mom.

[Laura Lee]

I know.

[Manny Muay]

I love Heidi. Like, I just think she's, like, so classy. I just really, really like her. But anyways, you guys, so the story broke that Charlie's basically been estranged from her family and, like, from her parents because of apparently hearsay that the dad was, like, being irresponsible with, like, the, like, the funds. Her funds, and was like, basically using her funds to, like, fun things for the family and the family business. And Charlie, you know, as she's become an adult, has her own team and is like, hey, like, you want to do things with just you and not, like, involve your family. And so then that, like, the hearsay or like, the dad ended up going on like a full, like, live tick tock rant about, like, the situation, that he's sad that him and Charlie don't talk and that they only talk to lawyers. And like, it's like a full, like, it's like a full mess. Like, it really is such a disaster over there. And Charlie's been like, you know, youtubing again. And she's like, oh, my God. Like, I have therapy, but I want to talk about it because, like, I'm a mess right now. And it's kind of here not hearsay, but it's kind of like everyone's thinking that it's about, like, the family dynamic. That's really hard.

[Laura Lee]

It's like, come out that, like, it speculated that the dad tried to take all the money, the girls make all this money with all this random that they came out with shoes, popcorn. I mean, I do remember there was a time, like, at the height of their popularity. Ring lights. I remember there's a lot of controversy online because they were like, the d' Amelios will come out with anything. Like, just the most random. They would attach their name to a mattress at one point. Like, you know, and it wasn't just like a sponsorship. It was collapsed.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Like, it was like the Charlie d' Amelio mattress, the Charlie Demario popcorn. The chart, you know, so it was just like a bunch of random things. So it came out. So people are speculating pretty heavily that there was a rift between the parents. Parents. Because Charlie. I remember Charlie was like, putting out tick tocks and things that were, like, kind of odd. That was eluding. So then the dad goes on live and he wants to defend himself because things are starting to hammer down on him and people are, like, catching on. Manny said it best because he was watching the video of the dad on live and he was like, he seems like a teenage boy.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Like, he's like, defending himself.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah, he's like a, like a teenager influencer trying to talk about, like, well, I just. I just came here to defend myself. But it's like, like, well, like, you wouldn't be anyone without Charlie. So like, in a way, it's like so odd to me that I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, why are you even going online defending yourself when the Charlie's name is what got you here? You should be defending Charlie, like, always. Like, that's just like, in my opinion, like, that's just like how I feel as like the parent you should always be protecting, like, your kid, especially the kid that like, it's one that like, is the bread and butter of like your entire family. So it's like, it's weird. And the thing is like, it's turned, it's come out that like, Dixie kind of taken like the parent sign.

[Laura Lee]

Really?

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, my God.

[Manny Muay]

They're still promoting the popcorn. She's still promoting it with them. And so, yeah, apparently, like, it's. It's shown like that like, Dixie's more on like the parents side.

[Laura Lee]

Where did we find out that the dad and her will only talk through her lawyers?

[Manny Muay]

He said it. Oh, he verbally said it. He literally said, like, I only speak to her through her lawyer so she don't like completely almost, I feel like complete cut. That. Isn't that crazy?

[Laura Lee]

That's nuts.

[Manny Muay]

So I'm kind of like, this is insane. It just reminds me of like, I don't know, like very not conservatorship, but like, kind of like just weird stuff with like your dad and your parents. It feels very, like, advantagey. But I wonder if there's a world when he was just where he was trying to be. Okay, let me just set up the family for success, but using Charlie's money so he maybe had like, good intentions. But it's like, well, that's like what she's built. So it's like, you can't be like, oh, I just want to make sure that they, they're making money and built for success. Well, it's like, well, Charlie already was making money and was built for on success. Like, she did it already. So it's like, what do you, what do you do in that situation? Other than I feel like he just overstepped and, you know, it's probably been like a very confusing situation for Charlie.

[Laura Lee]

I wonder how old Charlie is now. Probably in her 20s.

[Manny Muay]

I would say like 20 now.

[Laura Lee]

That's crazy because that's so young. You know what I mean, dude?

[Manny Muay]

The fact that like, like, that's crazy. Are you looking how old she is?

[Laura Lee]

I am.

[Manny Muay]

Okay. I'm curious. I want to see.

[Laura Lee]

Wow. Okay, here we go. Charlie D' Amelio is 22 years old. She's Aaron's age.

[Manny Muay]

22.

[Laura Lee]

Dang, girl. She has lived a lot of life, though. That's crazy.

[Manny Muay]

22, when you get famous that young, though, is like, girl.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. It says People magazine. It says, Charlie De Milio cuts ties from family company amid rumor financial dispute. That's crazy.

[Manny Muay]

Isn't that insane? So I'm really. I'm like, I. I hope that, like, as a family, they can come back together and, like, squash all their beef. Because it sucks to be in, like, with your turmoil with your, like, parents. And, like, that just sucks. Like, it's an unfortunate, unfortunate thing.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, yeah. It's alluding that Dixie is, like, on the family side of it all.

[Manny Muay]

Exactly. So it's like, who knows what's really happening behind closed doors? But they're definitely estranged.

[Laura Lee]

They're estranged. Wow. That is crazy. Next up. Okay, so I think it was. Oh, it was 16 years ago. KVD, Kat Von D. Yes. Her rental house burns down. And at the time, it was deemed as an accident in court. And now the son of the family, because it was there, they rented the house out to her. So the son, I think the mom died and the son now would own the home.

[Manny Muay]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

He is saying she did it on purpose because he's saying he went into Kat Von D's rental home that she was living in, and the woman had candles everywhere.

[Manny Muay]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

And he said it was a very bizarre lifestyle, the way the house was done. It had candles all over the floor, man. Like, candles, Candles everywhere. So he was like, she. Obviously he thinks she did on purpose

[Manny Muay]

or she was just careless with her

[Laura Lee]

candles, she said was an electrical fire. Oh, so there's a dispute here.

[Manny Muay]

So there's a. Okay, guys. So he. So not, like, necessarily on purpose, but it was like. Well, she has. She was being irresponsible with her candles. So then she did it instead of it being like an electrical fire.

[Laura Lee]

Huh.

[Manny Muay]

Like, it wasn't just that fluke of an accident in that way.

[Laura Lee]

And it said they settled in court because they took her to court over this.

[Manny Muay]

This.

[Laura Lee]

She had over a million dollars worth of damage because of the fire.

[Manny Muay]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

Went to court. They settled. All this was 16 years ago. And that he is saying that she, Kat Von D, made his mom signed an NDA. And now Kat Von D has spoken out and said the only reason there was that is so they couldn't sell stories about this to the tabloids. That was the point of the NDA.

[Manny Muay]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

And Kat Von D still stands on. It was an incident and that she, like, Her. She says in the article I read it says that she was saying she lost, like. Like this. She lost that. And even her cat died in the house.

[Manny Muay]

Right. Like, she wasn't like, purposely setting the house on fire.

[Laura Lee]

You know what's really crazy about this? There was speculation all these years ago that she did on purpose.

[Manny Muay]

I. I remember.

[Laura Lee]

And it floated around la, behind the scenes. Behind the scenes. It floated around LA that she did this on purpose.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah, I remember.

[Laura Lee]

Uhhuh.

[Manny Muay]

And it was like.

[Laura Lee]

And it's just crazy that it's coming back 16 years later and the son, who was younger at the time, who's now an adult, saying she on purpose.

[Manny Muay]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

And, like, killed her own cat. So there's a lot of alleged speculation, but there was rumored around LA that she did on purpose.

[Manny Muay]

That is. So if it's like, it's just crazy

[Laura Lee]

that it's coming back after all these years.

[Manny Muay]

Something you think we heard about this?

[Laura Lee]

Like, do you remember we heard about this, like 10 years ago and it was like, no, she's a crazy person.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Allegedly burned the house down herself. And a lot of people, you would hear about it and they would say, yeah, she did. She's crazy. Like, she did it herself. And now the freaking son is coming back after court. The mom, by the way, passed away. His mom passed away. She had cancer.

[Manny Muay]

He didn't sign the NDA.

[Laura Lee]

He didn't sign the NDA. Now the mom's passed away. So he can talk about it, right? He thinks she did on purpose.

[Manny Muay]

That is so crazy to even think that. Like, to even think about that. Because it's like your cat was in there. Like, I just don't know. It just seems, like, so baffling. It sounds truly, truly baffling. And then also to lose, like, all those things, like to lose all your possessions, like, who knows? Who knows, like, what it was? And then are they saying that it's on purpose because of, like, insurance? Is that, like, what they try to say? Like, I guess, a claim in some capacity. Even though technically, like, she's renting the house, though. It's like, I know.

[Laura Lee]

So it's like, what insurance would you get? Or maybe the things she lost in the house, she could. Or maybe she wanted out of the rental, who knows? Because it was, you know, alleged that, but it was her that did it. And they settled in court, which means a settlement. Doesn't mean we came to a she. He didn't. She didn't. And it was probably, like, an amount of money that was owed, you know, like, the settlement. So.

[Manny Muay]

But. And I wonder if it was like, is it going from her to them? Because it's obviously like, at the end of the day, if he. I'm sure if they're taking him to court and it's settled, then, like, she paid them out.

[Laura Lee]

Huh.

[Manny Muay]

For like.

[Laura Lee]

But also she's like, off the map now.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah. After everything, like, went down with the transaction with. With KVD and then like, what did

[Laura Lee]

they change the beauty brand to? KVD they took out.

[Manny Muay]

It was just kbd.

[Laura Lee]

I think she was going through a bunch of drama because she doesn't like vaccination. So that's why the BR beauty brand was like, we need to split ties with her. I think that's like, it was something like that. Uhhuh. I was like, I know a lot of people anti vax now.

[Manny Muay]

Yes. But like, she was like, anti vaxx with like, things that like, your kids should need. Like when you, like, go to school. Like, it was like, it was like, weird anti vaxx. It wasn't like, I don't want to take a Covid shot. Like, yeah, like that Anti Vax. It's like, to me, it's odd and weird, but it's like, I'm not like, okay, like, you don't want to take this, like, newer shot, Fine. But things that are like, 40 years proven to, like, help get rid of, like, an actual, like, disease, to not do that is like, I think, super responsible.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

What the are you talking about? Like, I don't. They're just gonna be all natural, like, like no measle shot. What the are you talking about? Yeah, this is something like, we, like, can basically eradicate.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

So I remember her going through the gigs with that.

[Laura Lee]

Like, the gigs, right?

[Manny Muay]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Laura Lee]

Where's the beauty brand at now?

[Manny Muay]

I don't know.

[Laura Lee]

I don't know either.

[Manny Muay]

I miss those liners, man.

[Laura Lee]

They are the best liners.

[Manny Muay]

You're the best liners.

[Laura Lee]

And then let's talk about Love Island. First of all, the executive producer of the damn show passed away. Like, just going on. He's 40 years old and it was like a medical emergency in Fiji and he passed away.

[Manny Muay]

The fact that that just had happened.

[Laura Lee]

So sad.

[Manny Muay]

What, yesterday? Yeah, it just got announced that he passed away and like, Love island is currently filming right now, which is like, holy crap.

[Laura Lee]

Now they don't have their executive producer,

[Manny Muay]

so what are they going to do? Like, what can they do? I don't even know how that works.

[Laura Lee]

Just keep it rolling.

[Manny Muay]

Just keep it rolling. I guess so okay. What I want to do. Okay.

[Laura Lee]

If you haven't watched it, we're gonna spoil.

[Manny Muay]

Okay. So this is what I'm saying. So we could potentially not.

[Laura Lee]

This comes out on Friday.

[Manny Muay]

Correct.

[Laura Lee]

So we are on episode, like, 9, 10, 11 past.

[Manny Muay]

Really?

[Laura Lee]

We're like, two weeks in.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah. So probably, like, 12 episodes in, then. Probably, like, 12 episodes in. What I was saying is what we should do. We should go through each person, say, like, what we think of them, and not necessarily, like, I'm gonna pull up the list.

[Laura Lee]

The pictures.

[Manny Muay]

Yes. Like, the photo. So we can go through, like.

[Laura Lee]

Like, what do we think that the problem is?

[Manny Muay]

Daily. I know.

[Laura Lee]

One day. Okay.

[Manny Muay]

Moment. Let's talk about episodes in and how we want right now.

[Laura Lee]

Okay. Let's talk about.

[Manny Muay]

Want to go eat? Our favorite Trinity.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah. I was like, easy. Trinity is just that girl. She's so wise beyond her years. She's 22. She's actually one of the youngest in the house. And she actually is very, like, coherent and aware of what's going on. And she's very, like. Has a lot of sense.

[Laura Lee]

Sense. And she likes to say the truth,

[Manny Muay]

and I love it.

[Laura Lee]

She's one. People just say she's the only one.

[Manny Muay]

Like, she's one. Hello few. And I just feel like she's keeping it super real in the house, and she's acting how she would be, and she's, like, saying what she's doing, and, like, I really just with her, and there's been moments where she's like, I ain't with it. Like, she'll be really honest about.

[Laura Lee]

To be honest, she's my favorite.

[Manny Muay]

I think she's my favorite, too. My number one.

[Laura Lee]

Let's talk about her partner, Bryce. Floppy Flop.

[Manny Muay]

Flop Floppy.

[Laura Lee]

He probably needs to go home. No girls interested in him.

[Manny Muay]

I think that Trinity's, like, starting to

[Laura Lee]

really like him, which I'm surprised because I thought it was, like, fake love at first or, like, fake interest at first to stay on the show. But now I think she is really into him. He is a cute face. I'm not gonna lie. There's something so icky about him. I'm not into it.

[Manny Muay]

I don't know what it is either. There's just something off.

[Laura Lee]

Let's talk about Gabriel.

[Manny Muay]

Don't piss me off. I know Gabriel, for me, is probably one of the worst. Like, there.

[Laura Lee]

He should have been a casa boy.

[Manny Muay]

He's like, it's very east. He gives me very, like, you're on the wrong show. You're trying to be on Temptation Island. Like you're just trying to like, it feels like just hook up with everyone, sleep with everyone. It just kind of. It just comes across kind of like gross.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Too much tongue, by the way. I'm so sick of seeing him kiss people.

[Manny Muay]

I'm just like, am I just like it's too much and it's like there's a difference between like exploring different connections, but, like, having one conversation like, can we kiss? Is crazy.

[Laura Lee]

Crazy. Let's talk about Anaya and Casey. They were my number one and Casey was my number one boy and I was my number one girl for like

[Manny Muay]

a few, like for several episodes.

[Laura Lee]

I feel like a Nadia. The problem is Casey is not perfect. I know everybody's pissed off at him right now because he made the comment that she won't do anything with him in bed. So she called her grandma huge. No, no. So I understand that. But before happened, before that happened. I'm going say that one more time because sometimes people have selective hearing. Before that happened before. Okay. Before, I felt like she was doing too much same because it was like, baby, it's week two.

[Manny Muay]

You are not barely week two.

[Laura Lee]

Barely mind, mind you. She is not allowing him to breathe or to even think about talking to another girl without freaking the out and punishing him by being so angry and like upset about it. You know what I mean? Being so upset and like, like visibly upset him, really.

[Manny Muay]

You can see two, like energy shifts in the house. And I think that because they live so close knit with one another, it's very easy to sense someone's energy being off. And it's very easy to kind of be like, uprupt and like taken it back in those moments where it's kind of like, oh, like this is like kind of a lot. It's like it's. There's a big, you know, jump with energy when you in the house. You can tell with her because she's like the happy go lucky girl. So when it goes into like, like, oh, like, well, like what the going on? Like, it's almost like they're too settled down too fast.

[Laura Lee]

That's my problem. But he doesn't seem like he's trying. He seems like he's trying to be good to her.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Didn't like the grandma comment. But he's trying to like, he's trying to be good to her but also be on Love island. And she doesn't seem like she's on love Island.

[Manny Muay]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean?

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

And so that's really my issue with her is like I want her to explore Same like, girl, you locked it down too quick. This is love island. Let's talk about. Yeah, Bia Love. Who is no longer with us.

[Manny Muay]

What it is, I'm like, you know

[Laura Lee]

what you're watching

[Manny Muay]

Bia, like, love, love. I loved her. Loved her down. So upset. I literally cried when she went home.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

Because I felt like, I don't know, there's something about. There's something about seeing a girly pop who. Who is like, in the house and it doesn't seem like the men are giving her that time of day. And it felt more like the friend vibe. And I feel like maybe I've always felt that. Like, I've always felt like I've been like the friend situations with friends. I was interested. You, like, really felt like I was. Yeah. I feel like I related in aspects. So it's just kind of like unfortunate to see her go home when it was like, I just felt like it wasn't her time to go because she was actually, like, growing a connection.

[Laura Lee]

Well, Gabe. So I was actually really interested to see because Gabe was her partner. So I was really, actually interested to see how that was going to play out with casa and new bombshell shells. And of course he was gonna around on her.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

He made out both the bombshells as soon as they walked the door. So she's such a, like, you know, we'll tell you, like, it is a real girl.

[Manny Muay]

Like a real ass.

[Laura Lee]

So I was really interested to see how she was gonna handle that. And the producers dipped their hands in and, you know, she's gone. I'm like, damn. Like, I loved her so much. I wanted to see this play out. And y' all just snatched her out of the damn thing. Sometimes I don't. Like whenever they're, like, letting the voting pick the bombshells and rip good couples apart. Pisses me off because it's not what they wanted. And then people who would have been on the show the whole time go home for no reason.

[Manny Muay]

No, it doesn't make any sense.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, doesn't make sense.

[Manny Muay]

Why the would you send be a home like this doesn't make. It doesn't mean. It made zero sense what was happening for Jen to stay

[Laura Lee]

home. And if voting was happening in the house, Jen would have went home.

[Manny Muay]

Yes. So it was like, sense.

[Laura Lee]

See, I feel like the producers screw up the show sometimes.

[Manny Muay]

I do feel like this season I do feel like is like, very produced because there's moments when I'm like, there's no Continuity.

[Laura Lee]

It's because they were able to so seamlessly produce Nick and Alandria together.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Remember whenever they got kicked out because he picked another girl after Casa, So it left Alandria on the out, and Nick didn't pick anyone else or get with anyone else. And they're like. So the producers were like, okay, if these two can go back in together, you can stay, remember? So they, like, put that together.

[Manny Muay]

Yes. But that was like, a very, like, obvious production move.

[Laura Lee]

So now producers have gotten too deep. What do you think about Kata and Zach?

[Manny Muay]

My. Probably my favorite couple at this point. At this.

[Laura Lee]

I don't like Zach.

[Manny Muay]

Oh, yeah.

[Laura Lee]

He's trying to hook up with an invisible bombshell that doesn't exist.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah, see, that was kind of weird.

[Laura Lee]

Don't stop.

[Manny Muay]

And the thing, like, when he said that after they had just hooked up,

[Laura Lee]

they literally just had sex in the. What's it called? Hideaway. And he literally looks at her after and is like, are you gonna be mad if I try to talk to another bombshell? And it's like.

[Manny Muay]

I'm like, do you think so do you think he was saying that, like a jokey way or like a real way?

[Laura Lee]

I think it was dead ass. I think he's been so spooked this whole entire time of hooking up with her because she's wanted to do more with him. And he. Yes.

[Manny Muay]

And he's like.

[Laura Lee]

Because he wants. I think he wants to go to Casa.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

I think he's waiting on Casa more to around. And he knows he can't if he does all the this with this girl because America would, like, hate him then.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah, 100% that. Which makes a lot of sense, honestly. I just feel like when you look at them, like, to me, they seem the most, like, together.

[Laura Lee]

They do.

[Manny Muay]

That's why I think they're my favorite couple.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, they feel like twinkle in his eye.

[Manny Muay]

There's a twinkle. There's definitely a hint. And there's a lot of rumors about him and Bryce being gay on top of.

[Laura Lee]

Well, they're not helping the rumors because last episode there was, like, 22 comments made about.

[Manny Muay]

Well, see, the thing is. Now we'll see. I'm not. I'm so privy to production now that, like, production sees that people are making these connections. So they're like, let's find every single bit in every single moment where they have a. A slightly gay thing. It's like. No, it's like when people. It's like when Bia was in it and they're like, she was making jokes about not having a leg. Like, we. Every single joke that was ever probably in there, they put in there. So just so we can see. But it's like, okay, that's not, like, all she is. She's not just making jokes about her leg. 24 7. It's like the ones that you caught because you thought it was funny. Production did. So it's like, okay, girl. So it's kind of like it feels like that to me with what they're doing. They're like, oh, now any moment that they have together, it's like. Like racing.

[Laura Lee]

They're using it. They're, like, trying to perpetuate that narrative.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Corbin.

[Manny Muay]

Corbin. I like teeter on. There's just.

[Laura Lee]

I like. Okay, Unpopular opinion. I like Corbin because, to be honest with you, without him in there, it would be a boring show.

[Manny Muay]

100%

[Laura Lee]

core. And the girls were saying, which, you know, they don't show everything on the show. They're like, he has a really good personality and he's hot. They literally said that last episode road. So I know he's probably really nice to hang out with, probably funny, and we're just not seeing all of that 100. I mean, I will say this. He does seem like a very chill guy. Like, no matter how bad his situation gets, he doesn't freak out. Like, he seems, like, very level.

[Manny Muay]

I. I like Corbin. And there's like, that was saying, like, what I was saying is, like, a teeter when. It's like, I feel like there's moments where I feel like he's not being honest with himself and how he's feeling, and then he, like. Well, he'll say something, and he's like, I'm not. Like, he'll, like, catch himself out. Like, especially with Melanie and Kenzie, I'm kind of like, you're, like, catching yourself up and not, like, realizing what he wants to do. And so that's why I teeter on him. But I feel like, as a person, I do end up liking him. I think he's, like, very pretty.

[Laura Lee]

What do you think about Kenzie?

[Manny Muay]

I think she's a mess.

[Laura Lee]

I like Kenzie, and it's an union, but this show would be a total fucking flop without her because no one does anything. They're so boring on the show. They're all coupled up, and Kenzie is the only one in that house playing Love Island. Yeah, this is what Love island is. And if more people were running around and doing what Kenzie was doing, we would have a ball game.

[Manny Muay]

We would actually have, like, more of a love island. Like, what the show is.

[Laura Lee]

It's just now no one wants to go home.

[Manny Muay]

Is that why they're, like, not.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. They don't want to go home. It's not worth it to go home. So they won't uncouple.

[Manny Muay]

Okay, that makes sense.

[Laura Lee]

That's what's going on their planet, too safe. But Kinsey is dictated by Corbin, in my opinion. She likes Kayla.

[Manny Muay]

Literally said that I basically fingered her. And, like, when he was talking to he. See in the back.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. He said, she's stigmatized by him. There's not real love there. But she can't let it up.

[Manny Muay]

She can't.

[Laura Lee]

She can't. She is truly dictated by him. She can't let it up. And I think she likes Caleb a lot, which is the white cowboy dude that came in specifically. It seemed like, for her, like, producers were like, here's your guy. Yep. And I'll be honest. He seems boring.

[Manny Muay]

I like him.

[Laura Lee]

I like him. He's, like, boring.

[Manny Muay]

He does seem like. More like, like, like, you know what it is? I think it's also, like, I don't feel like a lot of, like, country men like, that are, like, very, like, outlandish or very, like, talkative. I feel like it's just kind of like their cadence of, like. Yeah, for sure. Like, sweet, like, Southern gentleman vibes.

[Laura Lee]

Like, Rob, he was very demure.

[Manny Muay]

Yes. Like, it's almost like the, like, demureness in a way. And I feel like that's kind of like what that southern vibe is. Whereas, like, I, I. I just like him because I feel like he seems like a sweet, like, good guy who actually, like, cares about 100. And that's what I like about him a lot.

[Laura Lee]

100. Weird person.

[Manny Muay]

But I'm glad that at least Kenzie's, like, doing. What I did find odd is when Kenzie was having that conversation with Melanie, and she was like, Melanie was like, I'm not gonna, like, do anything unless she's like, say, like.

[Laura Lee]

But that's on Melanie. Get over it, girl Island. You're coupled up with him now. I understood the first time whenever Kenzie was still in a couple with him. So you do what? You should say something. You should sisterly say something. But you can see Kenzie all over Corvette. You know what I mean? It's just, like, all over Caleb and, like, doing it. So play the game, too. Everybody is just doing too much.

[Manny Muay]

Much.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, mel. Mel cannot get with Corbin because she's obsessed with Sincere.

[Manny Muay]

Correct.

[Laura Lee]

What do you think about sincere and soul? Sincere and sincere. He was my number one.

[Manny Muay]

I already, like, was like.

[Laura Lee]

And after about three episodes or four episodes, I knew exactly who he was.

[Manny Muay]

Nasty. Nasty. He's a dog. I do not like that vibe whatsoever.

[Laura Lee]

He's on chop.

[Manny Muay]

He's so like.

[Laura Lee]

Like, he can literally take his ass. He is.

[Manny Muay]

Which is so crazy because the thing

[Laura Lee]

is, Kenzie's a liar too, though, because Corbin, she said, let's just not tell anyone that we're kissing.

[Manny Muay]

She's a liar too, but then she wants everyone to be truthful with her.

[Laura Lee]

Huh? Nope, nope, nope.

[Manny Muay]

Okay, great.

[Laura Lee]

But see, that makes the show good, though.

[Manny Muay]

We can be like, okay, well, that's not being honest.

[Laura Lee]

She's a liar.

[Manny Muay]

More like it's fun drama at the day. Like, I don't have to like you for, like, you're just like, being dramatic, you know? Know. So I feel like with Sincere, he would literally tell Melanie, like, literal things, like hardcore, feed her everything she wants to hear, and then do the complete opposite of what that was. And it was making her cuckoo. Kachu.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

And like, they were already kind of like so tumultuous and so crazy. They're very toxic with one another. But I feel like him being like, I don't know, he was just really perpetuating that.

[Laura Lee]

Like, I think if Mel gets to watch all this back one day, she is going.

[Manny Muay]

She's going to.

[Laura Lee]

What a clown he is. And how he had her fool y. Like, she doesn't even.

[Manny Muay]

Even in last night's episode, I was like, no, like, don't even talk to him.

[Laura Lee]

Nope. She deserves it at this point because she knows enough now.

[Manny Muay]

Hello.

[Laura Lee]

He's like making out with Sol multiple times. So it's like, girl, you know, enough now. So if you go back to him now, you deserve it. You can't be mad. You can't be mad cuz you know he's a dog you're going back to. He's a literal dog.

[Manny Muay]

He is. I really like Soul a lot.

[Laura Lee]

I like Sol a lot too.

[Manny Muay]

I felt like she got deal.

[Laura Lee]

She did because she said she tried to talk to other guys than this head over here and no one else will talk to her because no one wants to play. Love island is so boring.

[Manny Muay]

Dumb as hell.

[Laura Lee]

It's dumb as hell.

[Manny Muay]

As hell. I really, like, I feel like she was shitty hands and she was like, so beautiful. She was personality and like.

[Laura Lee]

And everything about her that they pied her more than they showed on the tv, I think. And that's why she was crying at the pine, because they were bullying the out of her during that.

[Manny Muay]

I cannot agree more. I was like, you're not gonna cry over two pies. No, you're gonna cry if you're getting hella pies. And they're probably clowning you and isolating you. Like, there's obviously, obviously a reason for it. What do you think of Mel?

[Laura Lee]

I like Mel now.

[Manny Muay]

I do too.

[Laura Lee]

First few episodes thought she was mess.

[Manny Muay]

It was giving hurricane. But honestly, these last like couple episodes, I've been like. With Mel, I've literally been like. Like I really do feel like they were just really bringing out the worst in one another.

[Laura Lee]

They were.

[Manny Muay]

And Mel, I feel like she's actually trying to be sound like she's really trying to be like, understand her feelings and really like, I feel like she's trying to figure it out for herself. I really feel like she is. And she's trying to even like. Like she wants. And what do you want to really. I kind of clicked for me with her. I was. When she said me sleeping in that bed is like solidifying our connection, that really leaving the connection behind. I'm like, oh, you really thought like, like that's kind of true in a way where it's like you're leaving that connection behind to start something new. And it's very finite in a way. So it's like, oh, she's like seeing it almost as like a. An ending and it's hard to end.

[Laura Lee]

I again, once she was acting crazy, didn't like her. I really like her now. I hate that she's still trying to get back with sincere hate. I hate that. But I like Mel. I had her all wrong. I feel like it was a low point for her. That's not just because, you know, pressure cooker. The year, the year before Huda could have been a low point, but it wasn't. It was who she is. Like, it's how she acts. So no one, you know, really, she was like the villain of the right of the season. And so I saw that happening for Mel and I was like, here we go.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah, I thought the same thing.

[Laura Lee]

But that's not her her.

[Manny Muay]

No, because it just doesn't look like it.

[Laura Lee]

Like sincere brought out the worst in her. That's what the problem was because she was with a toxic ass man. But my problem with her now she's trying to get back with a toxic

[Manny Muay]

like, don't go back with him. I beg.

[Laura Lee]

I beg girl.

[Manny Muay]

Is that all of them.

[Laura Lee]

She should. If Mel Would have pursued Corbin really hardcore. I don't think he would have talked to Kenzie anymore. I think Mel. I don't think anything because Kenzie has got him on lock.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah. And I wonder, do you think that, like Mel was crying about the fact that she thought that they kissed on that pier? Is that why she cried?

[Laura Lee]

No.

[Manny Muay]

In last night's episode. Why was she crying, do you think? Because you know what? Trinity was like, hey, girl. And she was like just kind of like crying. She was like, I'm not good.

[Laura Lee]

I think she's still just struggling with.

[Manny Muay]

Just in general.

[Laura Lee]

I want Casey and Trinity to get together.

[Manny Muay]

My dream.

[Laura Lee]

That would blow the villa up.

[Manny Muay]

Trinity together, my dream day.

[Laura Lee]

They would be a really great couple. They have a really great personality. Both of.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

And I could just see them meshing well together. Can you imagine? See, this is where the show is kind of getting annoying this season because I feel like in the past people play the game more and it's like, yeah, we want to vote the villain off. And I'm like, no, you're voting off the people who are playing the game. And no, you're not necessarily gonna like them.

[Manny Muay]

But it doesn't mean. That doesn't make for a well rounded show.

[Laura Lee]

Exactly. It's got to be a good show.

[Manny Muay]

Think about, like the public's perception of what things could be like. They could just be like annoyed by the them but. And want to vote them out because they're annoying. But it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not how it works. You have to like, you have to like, see for, like see a show for what it is. Which is why they cast the way that they cast.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

Because they know there's going to be personalities that are not going to mesh that are going to mesh things like that. So it's like right now, like, we can't vote out Kenzie because you can't.

[Laura Lee]

We're just giving. A lot of this has to play out.

[Manny Muay]

Yes. So you just can't like be willy nilly with the voting. But like, unless. But see, the thing is like, like with the voting situation, like with when the bombshells picked, I was like, that was stupid.

[Laura Lee]

That was stupid.

[Manny Muay]

Stupid as.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, and by the way, they made us vote. Made a whole episode go by. Everything changed. Everything changed the episode. And then they play out our votes

[Manny Muay]

which we take it back. We swear.

[Laura Lee]

We take it back for that.

[Manny Muay]

No.

[Laura Lee]

So I feel like the producers did us dirty as the viewer.

[Manny Muay]

Absolutely.

[Laura Lee]

I feel like Corbin is the hottest in the house. But I feel like he's a nasty boy, and he doesn't give a. About anything in that house. But hooking up with girls, I think

[Manny Muay]

when you, like, look like that, like, how are you not gonna be a boy? Like, low key? Like, he's tall, he's ripped. That's, like, delusional. It's, like, not okay. And I'm literally like, it is not okay. What the is going on? Like, how are you?

[Laura Lee]

How did he get every single good gene? Good teeth, good nose, good hairline, good hair, good body.

[Manny Muay]

Corbin gbt or like. Like, they. They call them ch.

[Laura Lee]

Why?

[Manny Muay]

Because they say, like, all of his answers are very, like, chatgpt.

[Laura Lee]

Maybe not a brain cell.

[Manny Muay]

And it's very. Just like. And your feelings are valid.

[Laura Lee]

Like, it's very, like, he has the best personality. So I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Manny Muay]

I love when the girls all get together and they watch the boys work out. It's just so funny. I'm like, yes. Treat those guys like that.

[Laura Lee]

The dogs that they are, like, they are.

[Manny Muay]

Yes. Live.

[Laura Lee]

Who would you go for in there? In there if the situation was like it is now? Oh, yeah.

[Manny Muay]

See, the thing is that that's the hard part. You know, I'll go for Caleb.

[Laura Lee]

I would go for Caleb because he's

[Manny Muay]

the most, like, sound normal.

[Laura Lee]

And he's not connected and he's not

[Manny Muay]

connected, and he's not. So I feel like he's also, like, he. I think he treats Ken and all the girls speak highly of Caleb.

[Laura Lee]

Uhhuh.

[Manny Muay]

So I'm like, oh, I feel like they all speak highly of him.

[Laura Lee]

He's a safe.

[Manny Muay]

He's very like, a safeguard. He's open, and he's very, like.

[Laura Lee]

He's a cute guy.

[Manny Muay]

Demir.

[Laura Lee]

Uhhuh.

[Manny Muay]

So I feel like that's probably what I would go for. Yeah, you? Same.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. If it's in the situation that we're in right now.

[Manny Muay]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Muay]

From the jump. I think Casey.

[Laura Lee]

And Casey was my favorite when he picked the plant.

[Manny Muay]

Oh, yeah. You love that.

[Laura Lee]

Immediately, I was like. Because it was like, cat sagger plants, and I love that he did that. I also have a ton of plants. You guys don't even know how many plants.

[Manny Muay]

Girl.

[Laura Lee]

I don't even get into that online, but I got plants coming on my ass.

[Manny Muay]

You know what? Who I thought, like, who really grew on me was Sean.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Muay]

He really, really grew on me, and I didn't think I was gonna like him in the beginning, so I was

[Laura Lee]

like, do you feel like it was the kid that sent him. Yes, I do too.

[Manny Muay]

I do. And I. And now it's funny because, like, when I look back, I think about like Huda being like, I don't want to tell anyone I have a kid. Because it's like kind of like, why

[Laura Lee]

do you think she didn't want to tell nobody?

[Manny Muay]

She want to tell anybody. And then like him telling everyone. And even with Bia, she was like, I don't want to deal with like your child. But I saw that these girls are young, 22 years old.

[Laura Lee]

I don't want nobody's baby too young.

[Manny Muay]

What the.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean?

[Manny Muay]

And he's like 29. Girls.

[Laura Lee]

See? Exactly. You got to find a girl is like older and willing to take on.

[Manny Muay]

She's like, okay, kid. Yes.

[Laura Lee]

That's big.

[Manny Muay]

Well, that's a huge. That's a huge, huge thing.

[Laura Lee]

Huge.

[Manny Muay]

And not everyone's gonna do that.

[Laura Lee]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Manny Muay]

Not everyone.

[Laura Lee]

Would you.

[Manny Muay]

What the are you gonna ask me? Would you.

[Laura Lee]

If you met a really hot guy, that a gay guy, and he was interested in you, but he had a kid and it was like a little kid, like a two year old.

[Manny Muay]

Okay. But then he doesn't have the kid.

[Laura Lee]

See, the partner gets him on the weekend. Well cussed. Are you locking down? And I want you to answer honestly, is he perfect?

[Manny Muay]

Like, he's like my dream man. But he has a kid.

[Laura Lee]

He might have a receding hairline. Just kidding. I'm just kidding. I just.

[Manny Muay]

I got your judgment. No, no, no. If he's like my perfect dream man, I do feel like, be honest and say the truth. That's what I'm saying. I'm. I'm trying.

[Laura Lee]

I don't see me. I can see you be like, hell no.

[Manny Muay]

See, the thing is like, I. The hard part is that like, finding someone that I'm like so compatible with, I like really hard. Because that's like already very hard for me in general. So it's like, do I handle?

[Laura Lee]

But is it everything you dream and love?

[Manny Muay]

If there's a child, see, then there's like, does it with our lives.

[Laura Lee]

Of course that's gonna be the, like,

[Manny Muay]

none of that stuff.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, no. The kids coming with babe, full cust.

[Manny Muay]

I don't think it's gonna work for me.

[Host/Announcer]

Me.

[Manny Muay]

It's just tough, like, because the thing is, like, that's not necessarily my dream, like, to have a child.

[Laura Lee]

I think it's if someone else has a kid. So if you're single and you got three kids and you're divorced. You might want to hook up with someone that's also got kids, got. You know what I'm saying? I think that's like the best case scenario.

[Manny Muay]

Yes. So someone else.

[Laura Lee]

We're in the same situation and we can come together and be a family. That way we're not sure, you know, because kids are big.

[Manny Muay]

They're huge business. I say like, no now as if, like, it would never happen. But then it's like, who knows? Like, I've never been situation like that. And like, it could. My mind could change. At the end of the day, it's not mine.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

And that's what I want. Like, I don't want my own. I'm like, that's Yoki. That's.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, but the problem is, if you're serious enough, you know, one day you'd be together. It would be. That's the thing. That's women. These women are thinking about whenever Sean has a kid.

[Manny Muay]

I was like 14 years old.

[Laura Lee]

That's fine.

[Manny Muay]

A friend of mine actually just ended up getting married recently to this man and he had kids with a wife back in the day, but the kids were like 14, 16.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Manny Muay]

And he was like, I see them here and there, but like, it's not

[Laura Lee]

anything because I ain't raising them.

[Manny Muay]

So I think that, like, I ain't raising the kids. So it's like, okay. That like, that to me was like, not a big deal.

[Laura Lee]

2 year olds.

[Manny Muay]

2 year old to see that. No. You got me at two. That's. You're trying to me.

[Laura Lee]

I had to make the stakes.

[Manny Muay]

That's like, the stakes are much higher.

[Laura Lee]

Perfect, man.

[Manny Muay]

No, imagine when they were one.

[Laura Lee]

Go to hell.

[Manny Muay]

So we have to slow down.

[Laura Lee]

Go straight down.

[Manny Muay]

Slow down. One year old. So that. That just like, what? That's just not in my path right now. It's not my journey right now. Could be baby.

[Laura Lee]

You are in your baby's after like 21. He's like, in the future. When I'm 40. When I'm 45.

[Manny Muay]

When I'm 45, you never know. He never knows what I'm thinking. That's true. I'll have a fresh facelift.

[Laura Lee]

You'll never know what I'm thinking. Me too. Girl. Will be wheeled out together. Side by side.

[Manny Muay]

We're gonna be wheeled out like, I

[Laura Lee]

might make mine a little tighter than his. I'm like, you guys, tighter, Tighter.

[Manny Muay]

Love it.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, that's it, y'. All. They're like, we hate all of your opinions.

[Manny Muay]

And they do. I'M actually really curious to hear about your guys'.

[Laura Lee]

I know a lot of my opinions are unpopular based off what I'm seeing online. I'm not going with what everybody's saying online. I'm choosing my own form. OPIN opinions.

[Manny Muay]

Yes, 100%.

[Laura Lee]

And what a lot of people don't realize is why they like reality TV is cuz when people do bad things, right. They don't realize that, like, whatever the villain show, you have to have the villain. And a lot of people don't realize that when watching the most engaging moments is when the villains also because, like,

[Manny Muay]

you could not like someone but then be good for the show.

[Laura Lee]

They were like, we're voting Kinsey out next. I'm like, dude, well, this. I was. This show's gonna be a snoozer. I'm not saying she's right.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah, of course.

[Laura Lee]

And dickmatize. And a liar.

[Manny Muay]

It's literally like the girl version of sincere right now.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Muay]

Which is so weird.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Muay]

So, so, so weird to me.

[Laura Lee]

Yes, that's.

[Manny Muay]

But also, at the end of the day, you have to remember it. Love Island. It's about connection.

[Laura Lee]

Not the point to lie.

[Manny Muay]

But this is.

[Laura Lee]

It makes a show good.

[Manny Muay]

The problem is like, that they're lying.

[Laura Lee]

That's the problem.

[Manny Muay]

If they weren't lying and they were exploring doing it like, like the idea of Kenzie being like, let's just not tell anyone that we kiss. And like. And it's like. And it's sincere lying to Mel and

[Laura Lee]

not doing what about like three times.

[Manny Muay]

Exactly.

[Laura Lee]

Back and forth.

[Manny Muay]

So it's like, oh, but you're lying.

[Laura Lee]

You also lie to someone and.

[Manny Muay]

Yeah, exactly. So it's like, explore your explorer explorations or whatever. But like, you're lying.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. So anyways, we love you guys. Share this podcast with all your friends and family members who aren't listening to full coverage.

[Manny Muay]

Yes, you should. Because they would love.

[Laura Lee]

They would love to be in on the screen.

[Manny Muay]

Love it. With a little tea, a little gossip

[Laura Lee]

and we'll see you in the next one.

[Manny Muay]

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[Laura Lee]

That is so fast.

[Manny Muay]

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