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Lauralee
Go the distance with CoverGirl's new eye enhancer wrap tubing mascara for a lash extension effect. Shop now at your nearest retailer. We're back together, my drag mother.
Emua
We're all fucked up. We're all fucked up.
Lauralee
But we battle others.
Emua
So if you get one of us, you get both.
Luscious Massacre
Who heals the healer. Sometimes through so much healing, the healer gets better. You have to be an original.
Lauralee
Hey, guys, welcome back to full coverage, your favorite podcast with your hosts, Manny, Emua and Lauralee. And we have one of the most special guests we've ever had of all time. Of all time. We have the Luscious Massacre.
Luscious Massacre
Oh, my God. We're back together.
Lauralee
We're back together, my drag mother.
Luscious Massacre
We are still here, girl.
Lauralee
We're here.
Luscious Massacre
Season four, baby. We've been through it on YouTube.
Emua
Oh, yes, girl.
Luscious Massacre
We know each other for a long time, sister. And we're still friendly with each other. We still love each other. Cause you know a lot of these girls.
Lauralee
Oh, we do know a lot of these girls.
Luscious Massacre
You can't trust a lot of these girls here on YouTube. You can't. There is like a pathological trauma with YouTubers.
Lauralee
A hundred it is.
Emua
We're all fucked up. Yeah, we're all fucked up.
Luscious Massacre
Attention, horse.
Lauralee
Yep.
Luscious Massacre
Narcissist.
Lauralee
Narcissist. Attention.
Luscious Massacre
Cutthroat too. They will kill you as long as they can get a hat. Listen, if I can get one more viewer than you, I will take you out. But that's how YouTubers are.
Lauralee
Yes. 100%.
Emua
TikTokers could never.
Lauralee
They could never. Tiktokers could never. It's too PC.
Luscious Massacre
It's lyrical that we're still friends and we still, you know, we've never, like, killed each other. Cause youtubers are notorious.
Lauralee
100%. 100%.
Luscious Massacre
Have you all ever gone in a fight?
Lauralee
Oh, us do? No. Really? But we battle others.
Emua
So if you get one of us, you get both.
Luscious Massacre
Okay.
Lauralee
Actually, if you're battling me, you're battling Laura. And if you're battling Laura, you're battling me.
Emua
Then I'm battling battle myself.
Luscious Massacre
It's her loyalty. Listen, you girls are different because you have loyalty. Exactly. These girls out here, they're not loyal.
Emua
Yeah.
Lauralee
I will ride for Laura for anything. Like, it isn't even if she does something wrong. I'm like, she didn't do anything.
Emua
When did I do something wrong?
Lauralee
Exactly.
Luscious Massacre
Even if ever.
Lauralee
Not impossible.
Luscious Massacre
I love that.
Lauralee
That's cause we're sisters. But you guys, I've known Luscious, We've known Luscious for so many years. YouTube OG Emmy Award winning artist, comedian, drag queen. Just honestly, everything.
Luscious Massacre
You do it all. I've died on YouTube so many times. I've gone through, like, she's gone through. I started off as, like, an Emmy. I used to do beauty. I was a beauty guru. I was a drama, like, not a drama channel. I was an anti drama channel. Oh, no. I was a drama channel. And then I became an anti drama channel.
Lauralee
She did.
Luscious Massacre
I quickly learned.
Emua
Did you talk about me? Lessons.
Luscious Massacre
I'm trying to remember. I. For sure. When I first started. I remember I would talk about him.
Emua
Always got to.
Lauralee
Hey.
Luscious Massacre
But it was never, like, it was never coming from a place. Yeah.
Lauralee
I'm be real.
Luscious Massacre
It was never, like. Like a. I forgot about jealous. Like, it wasn't that, like, I also. Being in the drama channel world, I very quickly realized, oh, this is all fake.
Emua
Yeah.
Luscious Massacre
These girls are all. They're just bitter fans at the house who. They're not gonna make their dreams come true. They don't have any talent. They don't know how to do makeup.
Emua
It's a talent speeding room.
Luscious Massacre
So they're just like. They're haters. Yes, they're haters at the house. Turning on their little phone, and they're just bitter and just criticizing and also making it all up. And when I started to see that, I was like, ooh, this doesn't sit right with my soul, with my spirit. Like, this is fake. And this is for people that are losers. If you have real talent, real charisma, and if you're a star, you don't have to be there, like, talking shit about other people. And so I quickly. I was like, oh, I'm going to become the antithesis. I'm gonna be the antidote.
Lauralee
Yes.
Luscious Massacre
So then I became the anti drama channel.
Emua
How'd that go?
Luscious Massacre
I made a lot of money. I made a lot of money, and I'm not gonna. I was also going through a period of my life where I feel like I would channel my anger into, like, battling with them.
Lauralee
Good.
Luscious Massacre
And so I learned so much from, like, it was like therapy for me, like, going on YouTube and, like, shredding these bitches. Like, I was enjoying it. Cause I also knew, like, I'm here and I'm battling the enemy. Yeah, these people are awful. These people are frauds. They're sensational. Everything that they report they have, they actually. These are. These are the girls that are on the outside. These are. These are not the cool.
Emua
You can't even get in the club.
Luscious Massacre
You can't even get in the club. They're. They're. They denied entry, actually.
Emua
Correct.
Luscious Massacre
They denied entry. They didn't even let you in the club, baby. And so, yeah, and. And so I quickly. I was like, I've. I've gone through so many metamorphoses on YouTube, and then now I'm like. Now I'm like a comedian. Like, I go and I do. I shop. This is the thing about my show that the other day, I was like. I'm like. I'm like, bitch. I'm doing activism. I'm doing shopping. I'm doing beauty. I'm doing therapy. I also do therapy on my show. I'm a therapist.
Lauralee
She does it all.
Luscious Massacre
I'm not licensed, but, you know, I have a lot of. I've been through a lot of things in my life, and I have a lot of experience.
Emua
She's on BetterHelp.
Luscious Massacre
She's one of therapists.
Lauralee
She loves BetterHelp.
Emua
She's one of the therapists.
Luscious Massacre
I've never.
Emua
Listen, I can't get assigned.
Luscious Massacre
Let me tell you something.
Emua
I actually.
Luscious Massacre
Have you ever been to therapy? Of course. I'm sure you girls have been to therapy. I went to therapy, and I've only been once. It was one session, and by the end of it, I said, let me tell you something. You need therapy. And I told her, I'm also going through a phase of, like, through YouTube. I feel like YouTube pushes you to have to say the things that are in your head so that people will pay attention and watch. Like, it pushes you to overshare. So I'm sitting there and I said, I just want you to know that you are awful. You're an awful therapist. You are to the therapist. Yeah. I sat her and I said, you are exploiting people. You have no reason to be sitting here. Yeah. Because the entire time as I was sitting there with the therapist, I felt. I was like, I can't trust her. Because everything. She was like. She was like, are you feeling unwell? But let me tell you, if you are feeling unwell, I have to report it. And, like, there was just so many things where I was like, you are not a good therapist, bitch. You need to go. And then I sat there and I analyzed this woman, and I said, baby, you through years of therapy, now you've become bitter.
Emua
Wow.
Luscious Massacre
And you're so bitter that you have no business sitting in that therapist's chair. I should report you because you don't need to. Yeah. It was just very, like. I was like, damn, now Now I understand why some people, they struggle. Yeah. They don't need therapy. Yeah.
Lauralee
This therapy, and that's the sad reality, too, is that therapist, like, it's not one size fits all. It literally is. Like, every therapist is so different. And you have to find one that hopefully would work for you and, like, what you need and it's not a bitter bitch. Like she was saying.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah. And I also feel like no one had ever told her. And I said, you know what? I'm here. This is my moment. I'm gonna let you know you're a horrible therapist. And can you recommend another therapist, baby, Because I'm never coming back to you. And she was very, like. She was very, like, well, why this, like, asking all these questions? At the end, she was shook.
Emua
Of course you were the therapist. At the end, she.
Luscious Massacre
I gave her therapy and I let her and I chastised her. I punished her. In that moment, I said, you are awful. And I need you to know that what you do, people come and sit in this chair. You need to take it a little bit more serious. You need to be a little bit more sensitive. Because if I was really in a bad mental space, you just crushed me and you made me feel worse. And now I'm skeptical about therapy. Now you have ruined the experience for me. This is my first time coming to therapy, and you're awful. I let her have it. Cause she needed to hear it. She needed to know, too. Because some people, they walk around life and no one ever tells them the truth. And I said, bitch, you met the right girl today. I'm going to tell you the truth.
Lauralee
What a favor you did her a favor.
Luscious Massacre
I hope she grew from that. I hope. Wherever you are, sweetheart, she's watching. I hope you went to therapy, baby.
Emua
That's our number one fan.
Luscious Massacre
I hope you went to therapy.
Lauralee
She saw the title, she's like.
Emua
And that's the opening.
Luscious Massacre
No, no. You know what? Because I. I saw this on Twitter the other day. Who heals? The healer. Sometimes through so much healing, the healer gets better. And how do you help this woman?
Lauralee
And I also heard a thing where it's like, a lot of therapists will go to therapy because they need to unload their.
Emua
The weight.
Lauralee
Weight of getting other people's weight.
Luscious Massacre
Oh, honey, the girls need to unload.
Lauralee
They need to unload.
Luscious Massacre
The girls are loaded, too.
Lauralee
This one, she lives in LA now. Yes, from Texas.
Emua
Where are you from in Texas?
Luscious Massacre
I'm from Brownsville, Texas, from the Rio Grande Valley. And I move now here. I'm living In West Hollywood. I've been here for four months and I am very much getting seduced.
Lauralee
She uh huh.
Luscious Massacre
By Los Angeles.
Lauralee
It's seductive.
Luscious Massacre
But let me tell you this, I'm very much the girl who, where when there's a problem, I have to talk about it because you have to unmask the demon, you have to be aware there is something wrong so that you can then fix it. So I'm currently in a space right now where everyone who talks to me, I'm like, I'm being seduced by the LA life. I'm being seduced by the glamour. I'm being seduced by this environment. And I read a quote the other day from Jane Fonda and she said, you need to, you need to make your environment a product of you. Do not let your environment, do not let your environment make you a product of it. And I was like, oh my God. That make like that is me right now. That's where I'm focused on because I'm like, I'm from Brownsville, Texas. These opportunities don't happen to people where I come from. I don't have the privilege of being in the vicinity of Hollywood and Los Angeles and like where all these things can happen. And I fought my ass to get here. I've been failing for like 15 years, trying to make my dreams come true. And now that I'm in Los Angeles, I'm not gonna get here and then just squander it.
Lauralee
Yeah, exactly.
Luscious Massacre
Because I got distracted by the Los Angeles lifestyle. And all these ran through girls down here, let me tell you, the girls and they are ran through and they are running around wreaking havoc on themselves. And I cannot do the same thing. I have to be smarter. And so I have to be aware that there is a lifestyle here in LA and I can't fall into it. I can't get distracted by it so easy.
Emua
I feel like I got distracted cause I came here from Alabama in the first. I wasn't used to LA people.
Luscious Massacre
Right.
Emua
I feel like LA attracts a lot.
Luscious Massacre
Of narcissism because everybody here, absolutely, it's all about vanity. And they're all just trying to make.
Lauralee
Their own dreams happen for themselves.
Luscious Massacre
Listen, sometimes I go and I do. They know, girls know, they see my show and they see that I do interviews with people. But I'm very selective. I'm like, I will only interview people that I feel are genuine and that I feel have earned my attention. So I only give opportunities to people that I feel like you've been around me, you've gotten to know me and you've earned that spot. But I'll go out to the bars and people will come up to me. They're like, girl, why haven't you put me on my show? Why haven't you given me an interview? And I'm like, bitch, I will never.
Emua
That's so la.
Luscious Massacre
It's so la. Like, they just see me and they're like, I need to go kiss her ass. Cause I need to get an interview by her and I need to use her so I get attention. And. Oh, baby, those leeches, those little animals, they're scary.
Emua
They are.
Luscious Massacre
They're out here desperate.
Lauralee
LA is rampant with. With that. And I think that I saw a lot of that when I first came out here, too. And it's something you kind of start to sniff out really fast, actually, when you start to realize and you have these experiences and you're like, oh, like, you don't actually give a about me. You actually only care about what I can give you. And then you. And then your circle gets smaller. And then you stop doing things for the sake of, like. I feel like you have to. You just do it because you want to. Yeah, it's very.
Luscious Massacre
But I also empathize sometimes. I'll see them and then I'm like, I remember how hard it is.
Emua
That's Brownsville.
Luscious Massacre
Sweet.
Lauralee
That's Brownsville. That's being sweet.
Luscious Massacre
I remember how hard it is to come to la and you just want to make your dreams come true. And you're struggling to pay the rent. You're struggling to pay the bills. Maybe the girls are out here struggling, honey, of course. And then I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I get it. But, you know, you just. You're distracted, little girl. If you're running. Let me tell you something. If you're running out there and you're just desperate for someone else to give you a shot, you're missing the point.
Emua
Ooh, that's deep.
Luscious Massacre
You're missing the point. You came here to make your dreams come true so that you need to show us who you are. You need to believe in yourself. Trust yourself. Trust your voice. You have to be an original.
Lauralee
Absolutely.
Luscious Massacre
You are never going to make your dream come true if you're in the corner. You're just like, will she give me a shot? Is she going to give me a shot? Bitch, you're just going to get your shot, and then nothing's going to happen with it. You know? Nothing's gonna happen.
Lauralee
Well, people, you're missing the point. That, yeah, they can't take an opportunity and use it. Like, they'll just. They just got something. It's like, cool. I'm squandering it. They don't know what to do it.
Luscious Massacre
And also, you can get opportunities, girl. You can get a million opportunities. You can be featured on every YouTube show and everything. But if you're. If you don't have anything interesting to say, and if you don't really, really believe in yourself and. And are giving something that is. That needs to be heard, nothing's gonna happen. You're just gonna be the girl who keeps getting featured.
Lauralee
Wow. And that's it.
Luscious Massacre
And we know so many of those girls. They just. We know them, they're famous and they keep getting featured. But then really, they have no influence, they have no impact. And nobody really cares what they say. They're just, you know, they're in the background of, like, someone else's thing. Yeah, don't be that girl. You can do better. Believe in yourself.
Lauralee
Believe in yourself.
Emua
This is true.
Luscious Massacre
Stop being a desperate creature.
Lauralee
Stop being a desperate. So you moved out to LA before, and then you move, and then I.
Luscious Massacre
Failed so many times.
Emua
That's the best part of people saying.
Lauralee
That'S what I want to hear.
Emua
That's the best part of the story.
Lauralee
What do you feel is different about you moving to LA last time and then you moving to LA this time?
Luscious Massacre
Well, listen, I'll tell you my very first failure. When I was 18 years old, I was working at a call center. I was working at a call center. And I really got to a point where I was like, I hate my job. I'm so depressed. And I had a car. I remember I had bought just a brand new car. I had a car. Note. I had all these responsibilities. And then one day I was like, this is not for me. Like, I want more. And so I quit my job and I moved to New York City.
Lauralee
I didn't even know that.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah, I quit my job, my car ended up getting repossessed. Like, I ruined my credit. I lost everything. But then with a little bit of money I had saved, I moved to New York. But tell me for what. I didn't even. I still didn't really know what I was gonna do. I didn't know what my purpose was. In my mind, I was like, I want to be a star. But I had not developed a talent. I wasn't a singer. I didn't know yet what it. I just knew that I wanted something more. But that was the first time that I failed But I learned so much because I learned like, okay, you need to. You can't just jump without having a plan. You can't just jump without knowing what you're gonna do. Cause there is a big possibility you're just gonna go out there and crash and burn and literally like, I think I went to New York and I was there maybe like seven days. And then I called my mom and I was like, mother, I'm kidding. I have no money. I'm done. Can you help me? Please book me a flight home. I gotta.
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Lauralee
Moving to New York.
Luscious Massacre
I'm moving to New York. I'm gonna be a star, bitch. Peace, ho. And then I went, seven days later, I was back.
Emua
Girl, that was a big test.
Luscious Massacre
With no money, right?
Lauralee
Right?
Luscious Massacre
With no money. Just like, just fully making a fool of myself. But I also knew I was like, I failed this time, but I'm gonna lick my wounds. I'm gonna learn from this. I'm gonna get back up and I'm gonna do it again. And I'VE and I. And. And that's been my life for, like, the last 15 years, is crashing and burning and learning from the mistakes and then getting up and doing it again and doing it again without ever losing that faith in myself. I'm like, bitch, I'm going to make my dream come true. I only live once. I have to do it.
Emua
The saying is, congratulations on all your failures. Because most people don't even try.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah.
Emua
Yeah, that's you.
Luscious Massacre
Let me tell you, little girl, if you're failing right now, it's a moment, it's a chapter in your life. But the page will turn.
Emua
Yeah.
Luscious Massacre
And you can't give up on yourself. You have to keep going. You have to. It's that tenacity and that discipline that will get you whatever your dream is. I was talking to a friend of mine earlier. Cause we were like, we have all these dreams for ourselves, but we've never seen it because we're brown. We're Latinas, we're Mexicanas. We've never seen ourselves in that, like, you know, like a Madonna or a Lady Gaga. Like, we've never seen it. And I'm like, well, we've never seen it because it's harder. And no one. We've never seen it. We've never seen the example. There's been examples, of course. There's been, like, Selena and there's. But never like, that super mega star that conquered the world. And I'm like, we can do it. We just have to continue to push. No matter how many times we fail. If that is our vision, we have to like an Olympian.
Emua
Where do you think this mindset comes from? Within you?
Luscious Massacre
From delusion. From delusion of never seeing it. And now I'm at this place where I'm like, I have to follow it through to see where I can take it. And I can't give up. As many times as I fail. There's no guarantees, too. I'm here. This is my third time living in la. There's no guarantee in a year or two years from now I could fail again. I could go pack my bags, head home and crash and burn again. But I guarantee you're going to see me lick my wounds, get my ass back up and try again. I'm not going to stop. And so it. That's the. That you need to believe. And you. And you have to sometimes. Your mom is not going to believe it. Your dad is not going to see it. He's not going to care. Your brothers, your siblings, your friends are. They're going to be like, who's this bitch think she is? She's delusional. You have to be the only one that believes, and you have to be the one. Yeah.
Emua
How did your parents think of all this?
Luscious Massacre
Well, now they believe and they see, and they're understanding, but I also understand where they're coming from because for, you know, it took me 15 years of me being like, it's not working. And my mom was like, bitch, it's not working.
Lauralee
Figure it out.
Luscious Massacre
What are you gonna do? Like, what do you. Cause you know, your mom, they want you to get a car. They want you to have a house. They want you. Like, they want.
Lauralee
They want you to have success.
Luscious Massacre
They want you to have success, but they also. They can only see as far as they can see. And so what they see for you when you're not following that and you see something else, they can be very allergic to that. And they can, you know, because they can be, you know, parents. They can also. They've lived their lives already, and they're like, I need to be more realistic for you.
Emua
They project their fears and what they face onto you.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah.
Emua
And they want you to have security.
Luscious Massacre
Yes. And they also want you to be like, baby. My parents were very like, baby, that is a dream. Like, dreams, sometimes they don't come true.
Emua
Yeah.
Luscious Massacre
So what are your plans? What are you gonna do? And I've always been like, the dream is the only option, sweetheart.
Emua
I love that.
Luscious Massacre
I am not going to. There is no option where I don't make this dream come true. Because I don't wanna live a life that I don't deserve. I don't. I just know, like, I'm too ambitious to just sit at the house in a home. I'm also gay. A lot of people don't talk about this, but as queer people, as gay men or, you know, trans or cross dresses, whatever you call it, the queer girls, we don't have to subscribe to that dream of, like, you're gonna have a home, you're gonna marry someone, you're gonna have children, and this is it. This is the bubble. These are all the rules, and these are all the little prisons that you're in as queer people. We can break all those prisons apart. We don't have to get married. We don't have to find a soulmate. We don't have to have children. We can just make up our own rules and be free. And all those prisons, we can break out of them. And so I'm always like, break it. Break the door, Break it apart. I don't have to subscribe to all these prisons. I can really. I have the. The luxury of being free. I can set myself free. And it's. It's scary, too, setting yourself free like that, because there's, you know, sometimes it's never been done, and there's no blueprint for that either, you know, and it's hard, but we can do it. We can do it. We can write. We can create the blueprint for the future for all these other queer people that are coming, that are gonna come, and they're gonna wanna do, you know, be free and live their life.
Lauralee
I love that 100%.
Emua
You created a series of. You going shopping.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah.
Emua
Where did this come from?
Lauralee
Drag Investigations.
Emua
Where did Drag Investigations come from?
Luscious Massacre
Well, it came from me finally. Like, you know, When I started YouTube, I was very like, feed the machine. Just every week you gotta. You gotta post on Friday whatever the video is. If you're just gonna sit there and talk, you're gonna do your makeup, you're gonna do. You're gonna sit there and criticize, whatever, like, whatever you're gonna do. I was very like, feed it. Just feed it, feed it, feed it. No matter what, you gotta keep the algorithm eating. And I learned a lot. And then I started live streaming. I also was a live streamer.
Lauralee
Live streamer.
Luscious Massacre
She was a live streamer. I was an original streamer before even these Twitch bitches were doing it. Bitch. I streamed for 365. Every day for an hour. No, I would be an hour and a half, two hours for like a year. Every day. I was like, I gotta stream. During the pandemic, I was like, boom. Every day. There's nothing to do. The world is falling apart. I'm on YouTube, streaming, streaming, posting videos. And so eventually, I gave it all up. I was like, I'm done with when this show. It's so interesting how the universe and life works. It was my last, literally my last attempt. I was like, this is it. I didn't make my dream come true. All my worst fears were right. Like, I just don't have it. It's not going to work. I've tried everything. I've been on YouTube now for seven years, and it is not happening. And so then I'm like, I'm just going to go shoot myself running around shopping with my friends, which is what I would always do every day. Brownsville is a small town.
Emua
Yeah.
Luscious Massacre
There's not much to do in Brownsville. Going out to have fun is going to Ross. Going to the deedee's Discount, going to the Marshalls, going to the Burlington and just walking around for like an hour. Like just looking at something. We wouldn't even buy anything. Cause it's also like, I don't have that much money, bitch, to be shopping every day. But I would just go because it was like, this is fun to do. Get out of the house and let me just go out to the stores. And I started to do it with and I would just carry my phone with me walking around the Ross. But it was the consistency of I was like, it's gonna be called dragvestigations. I'm gonna go and investigate. Dragvestigate the stores. And it just started to resonate with people. Yeah. And then I started to break at the be. At the beginning I was like, okay, I have to do something that is meaningful because I also don't just want to do something just to do it. Like to me that's a little boring. Like just me just going to a store. Like other people are doing that. What's setting me apart? What is something that is meaningful to me that makes me feel good about what I'm doing. I was like, okay, at the beginning of my video, I'm going to dedicate it to someone out there who doesn't feel seen or something that I want to shine a light on. And then it kind of added this drag vest, the dractivist thing to it too. So not only am I drag vestigating, I'm also attractivist. I'm talking about things that I care about, things that are important, things that matter to me. And then now it became even more relevant with everything going on in the world. I was like, bitch, I gotta keep it real. I can't just, I can't just be like this soul sucking thing where I'm just like fake and vapid and creating capitalistic things without it meaning something. At least for me and for the people at home who watch me, who have never even don't see themselves in content. I'm like, oh my God, I can imagine. I'm like, can I? Like what would it be like if I had track investigations when I was like 18 years old?
Lauralee
Oh, girl, your whole life would be different.
Luscious Massacre
Oh, it would inspire me so much. And so now I want to be that for that 18 year old that's out there watching. And I'm like, bitch, I give you permission. I give you permission to dream and believe and know that you can do it. It doesn't matter how big you are. It doesn't matter what you look like. And it doesn't matter if society deems you beautiful or not. If you see it and you believe it and you can see your beauty, you can make your dreams come true. And you can be beautiful. There's all kinds of beautiful people in the world. Let me tell you something. The majority of society would probably look at me and be like, oh, honey, she is not beautiful. I see my beauty. And let me tell you, I believe my beauty. And I have had men come up to me and they see the beauty, too, baby.
Lauralee
They see it.
Luscious Massacre
But because I see it, if I didn't see it, they would pay me.
Lauralee
Dash it is energy.
Luscious Massacre
It was like me, right now. I was coming over to the show and I cut traffic.
Lauralee
Tell em. Tell em right now.
Luscious Massacre
I was on the freeway and I went all the way to the. I'm that girl. I went all the way to the front, and there was a huge line of cars. But if I didn't cut, I was gonna have to go all around and I was gonna be late as hell. And I was like, I can't, right? And so then I get there, and there was this big tractor, this man, and he was, like, pushing. He was not gonna let me through. And I leaned over and I. And I literally went. I was like, mi amor, please, please, mi amor. And he saw me with the mug and the wig, and he was like. He was like, okay. And then when he let me, I was like, thank you. He started laughing and he just let me through, and I went through. I used the femininity.
Lauralee
Yes, femininity.
Luscious Massacre
There is power and femininity. Little girls remember. That's another thing, too. I've learned. There's so many rules about. If you're a man, you have to be this way. If you're a woman, you have to be this way. Break all the rules, sweetie. Use femininity when you need to use it. Use masculinity when you need to use it. Use all the powers and elements of the universe so that you can do what you have to do. You gotta survive. You gotta push through. You gotta make your dreams come true. I use the femininity today. And I showed up, I went through. I made it through. Honey, I was not denied.
Lauralee
No, you were not.
Luscious Massacre
That man did not deny me.
Emua
Not in treatment.
Luscious Massacre
Not denied.
Lauralee
Did you always. Even when you were younger, did you always feel like you had the feminine energy? Or was it something that you came into as you got older? Like, did you feel like that when you were younger?
Luscious Massacre
No, when I was young, I Was very self hating.
Lauralee
Same.
Luscious Massacre
I hated my femininity.
Lauralee
Same.
Luscious Massacre
Because I grew up in a very conservative Mexican household. When I was a kid, you know, they would call me all the slurs. My own siblings would call me all the slurs. My family never. And I don't blame them because I understand society and how society will make us all feel shamed and make us all feel self hate, especially when it comes to queer people. And so my own parents never made me feel comfortable or safe enough to say, I'm different than my brothers. I'm feminine and I'm gay. Like, I never had that. And so when I first met drag queens is when I was like, oh, my God, that is me. I see my future and I hate it. I hated it. I was so ashamed of it. And I was like, ooh, no. And they would all come up to me and they could see it, and I would be like, I'm straight.
Lauralee
Like that, like this, like this, like this.
Luscious Massacre
And I would be like, oh, sweetie, I'm straight. Honey, Baby, are you straight?
Lauralee
What are you talking about?
Luscious Massacre
No. And they would be like, rise, rise. But then through those, once those drag queens, my drag mother shout out to my drag mother, La Divina Garza, when she took me into her wing and she, she. She showed me, oh, my God, I can look like her. She looks just like me. And she's so confident. She's not afraid of anything in her mind. She walks in a room and she's the most beautiful. There could be a hundred models in the room. And she walks in and she's like, honey, these girls got nothing on me, baby. I'm pulling tonight. Watch me pull. Trade. And they're gonna go home alone. Like, that's my. That was my drag mother. That's how she is. And I was like, oh, my God, I want to be like her. Like, she loves herself. She's so confident. Now as I'm older, I realized she had to teach herself how to be that in order to survive. Because Brownsville, Texas, was telling her, you have no value. You are no beautiful. You are not beautiful. We do not like you. We do not respect you. There is nothing about you that we take seriously. And so she had to be the antidote. And she taught me how to be that. She taught me how to embrace my femininity, how to love myself. I remember one day, she was like, do you have any idea how beautiful you are? And we were at the gas station buying burritos, and she was like. She was like, I need you to snap. Snap. Out of it. Do you have any idea how powerful you are as a drag queen? Do you have any idea the things you can do, the things you can make men do? I did not know. And she taught me and she molded me and she inspired me, and she healed a lot of my little traumas that I had. But if I had never met her, I probably wouldn't even be here today.
Emua
No way.
Luscious Massacre
Oh, baby. Growing up in Brownsville, Texas, and with a very conservative Mexican environment where they tell you that they do not love you, they don't respect you, and that they will never love you or respect you because of their religious views and all of their prisons that they're in.
Emua
Prisons.
Lauralee
Prisons, babies. Yeah.
Emua
A lot of prisons.
Luscious Massacre
A lot of people, they are driven to self hate at such a level that you end up. You end up getting to a point where you're like, I don't like my life. I find no purpose. No one sees me. No one loves me. And so then it drives people to suicide. It drives people to darkness. And so I am so grateful that I met her because she saved my life. If it wasn't for her, I know for a fact that I wouldn't be here. It was a drag queen who did it. And so now that's a little bit of, like, my show. That's what I have to be. I have to.
Lauralee
You have to pay it forward in life.
Luscious Massacre
I have to pay it forward now in my own little way to show people that bitch. It doesn't matter what you look like. It doesn't matter your skin color. It doesn't matter if you are big as hell. You are beautiful and you have so much power. And let me tell you, sometimes being big as hell is actually a good thing. I have this trade right now. He's been pounding me down and he tells me. He's like, you're a little too skinny for me. I said, what do you mean? I said, I lost 100 pounds, baby. I used to be bigger. He's like, why didn't I meet you when you were bigger? I said, you have a thing for big bitches, don't you? He said, I sure do. I like a big bitch. So it's like you just never know.
Lauralee
You never know what someone's baby is.
Luscious Massacre
You just never know. These men are disgusting. The only thing I know for sure is men are disgusting.
Lauralee
That is correct. Well, what do we say every day? That's all we know, is that they're sick.
Luscious Massacre
We have to teach them how to act. We have to teach them because if not, these men, they run around disgusting, Filthy. Just. Just vermin.
Lauralee
Vermin. Vermin's a great word. I like vermin.
Emua
Sorry, babe.
Lauralee
Sorry, Tyler. We don't count you. No.
Luscious Massacre
But you know what? Let me tell you something. They like it when we tell them the truth. They like it when we tell them. Let me tell you something. You are vermin. You're disgusting and they like it.
Lauralee
Mm.
Luscious Massacre
I love to shame a man. And I love to tell them the truth. I love to tell a man the truth.
Lauralee
I feel like you had an era that were, like, dominatrix vibes.
Luscious Massacre
Oh, I'm very dominant in the bedroom.
Lauralee
Like, she is. She is that girl.
Luscious Massacre
I'm a humongous bottom. I'm a total woman. You know, cookie power. But I'm a total dominant in the bedroom. It's. I will be a bottom to a man. I will let a man pound me down to the ground. But I have to be in control. I have to tell them, like a machine. I have to turn the knob. I tell you how fast, how much, when to stop, how to do it. Like, I'm very dominating in that sense. Yeah. I'm still the alpha.
Lauralee
Yes.
Luscious Massacre
Even in the bedroom, I'm still alpha.
Lauralee
Everything Alpha and omega.
Luscious Massacre
Oh, absolutely. I'm the alpha.
Lauralee
What's the difference of trade in LA and Texas, do you think?
Luscious Massacre
I'm curious.
Lauralee
Like, the trade is literally, like.
Emua
I was gonna say, tell them what trade?
Lauralee
What is trade?
Luscious Massacre
What would you define? Oh, my God. I forget that the majority of the audience are like, you know, girls who, you know, they wear concealer and they put on a little lash.
Lauralee
Yes, that's our girl.
Luscious Massacre
Like their blush.
Lauralee
Yes. We have everything.
Luscious Massacre
Let me tell you, these girls, they love a lip oil all the same.
Lauralee
They love a lip oil.
Luscious Massacre
They love a little tinted moisturizer. Oh, yeah.
Lauralee
A baby, a bb.
Luscious Massacre
The copper eye, nude lip.
Lauralee
Correct.
Luscious Massacre
The copper eye nail.
Lauralee
Never, never forget.
Luscious Massacre
Please don't ever forget it. But listen, let trade is in the gay world. A trade is like a man who you're going to hook up with, who's maybe, like, a little rough. He might be a little, like, on the down low. Like, he's probably married. He likes the dolls, but he doesn't want anybody to know. But then when they come to you, they can really show you who they are, too. They can have intimacy in a way that they can't have with a woman sometimes. These men. I've been therapists to many men, too.
Lauralee
Oh, honey.
Luscious Massacre
I just know I give them therapy, too. Yeah. So trade is Just, you know, a man. It's a man that you hook up with. And yeah, the girl we be pulling trade.
Lauralee
Oh, I know the dolls pull trade boots. I. I see you shown me. So, but like, what do you think the difference of like la. Do you think that people. LA trade is more open or do you think Texas? Like, what?
Luscious Massacre
I'm curious.
Lauralee
Trades from across the U.S. let me tell you.
Luscious Massacre
What's the point?
Lauralee
Give us the treat center.
Luscious Massacre
Listen, I am a woman who speaks the truth and I'm not gonna mince words. The men out here in Los Angeles, the majority of them have a sex addiction.
Emua
Okay.
Luscious Massacre
They're all like, they're on the hookup apps. They're all cruising. They're hooking up in the parks, they're hooking up in the restrooms at the Macy's. I should do sniffies. They're on sniffies.
Emua
By the way, I shot her sniffies.
Lauralee
She was screaming.
Emua
I was screaming. Gaping holes left and right.
Lauralee
Yes.
Luscious Massacre
Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
Lauralee
She was gagged. Cause she never sees anything like that.
Luscious Massacre
I have a theory. It's two things. It's one, it's men, obviously.
Lauralee
Just men.
Luscious Massacre
And they have a little more testosterone in the body. And the testosterone makes you a little bit more hungry. So that's 1. And 2. Gay men, I think we go through life with a lot of trauma, especially when it comes to sex. There's so much shame around sex. And then. So then we become the. We rebel. And so we get to a point where we are so sexually free that the girls are. We're on the apps and we're looking for it and we want it now. Can I get the trade now or can. Can I get it in 15 minutes to the house? Yeah. And so, you know, and as long as they're not hurting anybody.
Emua
Yeah.
Lauralee
100.
Emua
It's great.
Lauralee
There's a place to go. That's what we talked about.
Emua
We were like, this is actually so.
Lauralee
Great for the people that want this.
Emua
For the people that want.
Luscious Massacre
People that want it.
Emua
Have a place to go get it from people that want to give it.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah. If they're not hurting anybody, let the girls ravage each other.
Emua
What a harmful symphony. What a harmony. That's harmony.
Lauralee
That's harmony, baby. That's literally. It's making shit work. And also the gays, a lot of gays from not having a lot of male acceptance. I think a lot of people go through things, things where it's like, you almost want male validation as you get, like when you start to realize and you're like, I want to be validated by men internally, not really realizing it. And then you go through therapy, and you're like, oh, my God. I just literally was seeking validation through sex because I felt like I didn't have male validation growing up because I didn't have, like, those resources, you know?
Luscious Massacre
I also think I had this epiphany. I have a lot of epiphanies. I had an epiphany this week, and I realized I'll speak for myself. I feel like I hook up a lot with a lot of different men. I'm like, I know I see a lot of different men in my home, but I feel like since I am in a position right now where I don't have a partner, I've never been in love. I've never really been in a relationship. I feel like through all of these men that I meet, I get little pieces of love from them, and they make me feel seen and loved. Like, I have moments where I'm like, oh, my God, I just hooked up with this guy. He's my friend. He's my regular. And I get intimacy with him. I reach intimacy with him that I don't get it anywhere else. There is no one else that I'm connecting with at that level that. That sees me so vulnerable in such a way. And so through that intimacy, I feel that connection that I need that I don't get it anywhere else. And I feel like that a lot of us, a lot of queer people, they hook up a lot, but also because they're looking for that intimacy that they don't get it anywhere else.
Lauralee
It's like a little thing that's missing, and everything else in their life actually fills some of that void. It's like, if you think about it, like a circle, right? So there's a donut and there's emptying the center. But if you have your family, you have your friends, you have hookups, it fills in that void a little bit. Each of it kind of goes through. Cause you get intimacy, you get compassion, you get everything. Sexual things. You get it from all those things combined where it's like, oh, I feel fulfilled.
Luscious Massacre
You feel seen.
Lauralee
You feel seen in some way in that moment.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah.
Lauralee
In that moment, you feel fulfilled.
Luscious Massacre
And we get it through those crumbs.
Lauralee
And it's through crumbs.
Luscious Massacre
We get it. Queer people, this world, society is so allergic, and they're in so many prisons, they don't show love enough to ourselves. We don't show love enough to ourselves. And from Other people that we are left to just breadcrumbs, the crumbs.
Emua
I forget. I live in LA for so many years. It's like the bubble. You forget that the rest of the world isn't.
Luscious Massacre
Honey, back in Texas, trying to. Ooh, good luck.
Emua
Good luck.
Luscious Massacre
Trying to get a man to value you, respect you. See, you want to date you, especially if you're trans or queer or you're a cross dresser or a drag queen. That makes it.
Emua
Makes it so lonely.
Luscious Massacre
Oh, my God, it's extremely lonely. So many queer people out there are desperately alone. And so then through the hookup culture, they get little pieces of intimacy and love, and they feel seen. It's true.
Lauralee
That's why it's so radical.
Luscious Massacre
But a lot of people don't sit there and try to analyze it. And I had that epiphany this week. I was like, bitch. Through all of these men that I see, this Rolodex of men, I get all these crumbs so that I can feel intimacy and I can feel seen and I can feel loved. I just hope one day I can find one.
Emua
I was gonna ask you, would you want to find one? Or are you happy where you're at?
Luscious Massacre
I'm happy where I'm at. You know, I realized a long time ago that my purpose on this planet is to survive. I was not put on this planet to find someone else to make me feel complete or to make me feel loved. I have to love myself, and I just have to take care of myself so I can survive on this planet as long as possible, but survive and thrive. I don't want to just survive and endure a hard life. I want to survive and thrive and be able to be happy. Even when I'm 50, 60, 70 years old, however long I'm on this planet, I want to be able to still access joy. That's my purpose, to survive. If along the way, I can find someone that I'm like, oh, my God, I trust them. I like them. I like their mind. They're intelligent. And I can feel like I can share my life with them. Oh, my God, that would be amazing. But it's so hard because so many of us in our community need to first love ourselves so that then we can love someone else. I am at a point in my life, though, where I do feel so good about myself. I love myself enough that I feel like for the first time in my life, I'm 37 years old, and I feel like I'm actually in a position in my life where I Can date.
Lauralee
I love that.
Luscious Massacre
Before this, I thought I just wanted someone, but I was in no position. Cause I was not really caring for myself. I was not really actually loving myself, and I was not in a position. A lot of people are out there dating, but they're in no position to be dating because they actually don't really care for themselves or love themselves, but it takes.
Lauralee
Or their partner. Or they don't love their partner.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah. I mean, if you don't care and love yourself, how are you gonna love another person? All you're gonn is you are going to mistreat them or use them. It's gonna be for the wrong reasons.
Lauralee
Absolutely.
Luscious Massacre
You have to be fully formed and healed and cared for and loved by yourself so that then you can meet someone else and also not let someone else take advantage of you.
Emua
Did you love yourself enough not to.
Luscious Massacre
You love enough yourself to know what you don't deserve? Yeah, exactly. What kind of. There's this man that I've been messing around with, and he's always. I feel like his kink is romance. His kink.
Lauralee
And that's confusing.
Luscious Massacre
His kink is, I want to spend time with you. I want to have amazing sex with you, but the entire time, I want to make you fall in love with me. That is my kink. I need romance to be a part of the equation. But I always have one foot on the ground, the other foot is in the air because he's pounding me down.
Lauralee
Absolutely.
Luscious Massacre
But I quickly realized his kink is romance because in reality, he's just playing games with me. He actually doesn't really want to love me. He doesn't really want to be with me. He just wants that for whatever long he comes. He wants the fantasy of romance in order to be able to have sex. But I was very quickly able to realize this is a facade and you're fake because after we're done, we have amazing. I have amazing chemistry with him in a sexual way and in a romantic way, too. But then I will sit there after and I'll be like, I'll massage his back. And I realized, oh, my God, I'm always touching him. I'm always touching his head. I'm touching his neck, I'm touching his back after we have sex, but he doesn't ever touch me. And then sometimes, like, well, he'll be like, can I stay here with you? Like, he'll stay for, like, he wants to take a nap. And then I'll be in the bed with him. And the entire time he's Giving me his back while we're in the bed. So I'm like wait a minute bitch. As soon as the sex is over, where does the intimacy go? I need to feel you, I need to feel the same. If I'm touching you and I'm talking to you and I'm being intimate with you, I need the same. But now I feel this disconnection. It's one sided to me that shows me that you're actually really. You don't really like me. You're not actually really attracted to me and so you're not gonna get me. Bitch. I know exactly what this is. This is just. Just. You're just my trade.
Lauralee
Just.
Luscious Massacre
But your kink is romance and I need to make sure that you don't get me because if we're not. If you're not paying attention, baby, you'll fall a summer girl, baby, they will get her 100%.
Emua
I know the girl's ears are perched right now. Oh, I know the girls.
Luscious Massacre
Press the number one in the comments. If you've ever met a man who his kink was love and romance and.
Lauralee
He got you, there's gonna be a lot of.
Luscious Massacre
No comments.
Lauralee
Me commenting in from my account.
Luscious Massacre
Me typing on because J, that's how we, you know, women. Also these men have the same kink.
Emua
Yes.
Luscious Massacre
They'll come, they'll spend the day with you, they'll have sex with you. They'll make you feel like bitch, this is my man. Look at all the things he told me. And then as soon as he leaves, bitch ghosted, disappears for two, three days. Doesn't communicate with you, doesn't connect with you. It's all gone. It was just that moment.
Emua
What's the name for these type of men? I feel like they mean vermin now.
Lauralee
Vermin's in my mind.
Emua
I know.
Lauralee
I don't know a ghoster. A. A player.
Luscious Massacre
Like a player technically just trash because these are the men that they get your hopes up. Yeah. They play with their emotions on that. That is their king.
Emua
That is the.
Luscious Massacre
They can only. It will only get rock hard if they feel like you're in love with them and they feel like they're playing the game with you. Cuz if there's no romance and no love, they're not living.
Emua
There's going to be a lot of ones in our. Com comments.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah, there's going to be a lot of ones.
Lauralee
I feel there's going be a lot of ones in the comments we. I feel like I've gone through that. You've Gone through that. I feel like everyone's gone through that. Truly from bottom of my heart.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah.
Lauralee
I also want to like touch on the fact like that you literally are an Emmy award winning artist.
Emua
We must.
Luscious Massacre
Because it's just what have the E I saw the other night, the egot. I was like, let me say something. I got the E of ego.
Lauralee
Like, what? So she did makeup for we're here. You. Yes, the show that was on hbo. Incredible, incredible show.
Emua
I watched one of the first episodes and I must cried.
Lauralee
It's such.
Emua
It's.
Lauralee
Is it the one with the. With the red dress? Yes, that, you know, the one with the red dress. Like it was, I think, season two.
Luscious Massacre
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I remember that moment. I remember when that was being shot and I remember being like, damn, she just turned it off. Everyone. And she just let everybody have it. It was so good.
Lauralee
But I just want to, like, I wanted to ask, like, what was one of the best things about recording the show and one of the worst things about recording shows? I was just curious about, like, you know, filming something of that caliber on hbo, doing, like doing makeup on. Not only on drag queens, but you were doing it on, you know, on.
Luscious Massacre
The people that are drag children that we would go and see your little babies and change their. For that moment we were there to change them and inspire them and give them hope. The best thing about the show was I was a student on that show. So the entire time while I was there, I was learning what to do, what not to do, how to treat people, how to not treat people. And also setting myself up because I knew one day I was like, one day I'm going, I want to do this. I want to do something like this. But I want to be able to have fun doing it. I don't want to.
Lauralee
Not just traumatic.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah. I don't want to just be like, stressed and oh, my God, today I have this shooting day and I'm. And I'm in a foul mood or I'm not having fun or I can't access joy. Cause I'm distracted by all the things I knew. I was like, I need to learn from all the things that I don't wanna do when I. If I'm ever in this position. And then the. What was the other one? The worst.
Lauralee
Like, one of the worst things about it.
Luscious Massacre
I remember at the end of season three, we had this one guy that he was very homophobic and he was our drag child and I had to put him in dragon. And I remember, like, I Put him in. Oh, my God, his makeup was beautiful. We put the wig on him, we put him. We got him all up in drag. It was a straight man. And then I said, how do you feel? Because, you know, they're on camera and they're like, ask him how he feels. And I was like, how do you feel being, you know, seeing yourself now as a drag queen? And he was like, I'm not gonna lie. Like, I feel disgusting. He's like, I don't even wanna look at myself. And I was like, damn, there are some people that are just not well, and they're just not going to react well. And I just remember that was like, I don't ever want to lose, like, work this hard. And on someone that you're. It's like you're missing. You're just a lost cause bitch. It's like, what's the point? Like, you know what I mean? But even then, I feel like I learned so much about mental illness.
Lauralee
Yeah. Was there any stories that, like, really touched you ever, like, that you had one that, like, stuck with you, that.
Luscious Massacre
You'Re like, oh, my God, there was so many. There was one. I remember there was one. Her name was. Her drag name was. I think it was Marjaba Habibi. I think that was her name, period. She was. And we put her up in drag. And I remember she was an immigrant. She had come to the U.S. i believe, if I'm not mistaken, she was in New Jersey. No, it was like, Illinois. Somewhere in Illinois. And that whole story, I remember feeling like, oh, my God, we really made an impact here. We really. Before we got there, I could feel the energy was. You know, they were really struggling. And after we left, I remember feeling like, bitch, we changed the energy. We actually helped this kid. This is what the purpose of this show was. Cause the purpose of the show is going to small, conservative cities and showing these queer kids that live there that you can survive. That's one thing about queer people, is we will figure out how to survive.
Lauralee
In very hostile environments every single time. It's the truth. That's literally what, like.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah.
Lauralee
You figure out ways you are so.
Emua
Good at drag makeup that you do other drag queens makeup. How do you.
Luscious Massacre
I used to. I don't anymore.
Emua
But how. How did you get this good at drag makeup?
Lauralee
I think, like, the art. Where did the art come from? Where did that tangling come from?
Luscious Massacre
I think it comes, like, almost like, looking at it as, like a. Like a scientific way, like a little nerd.
Emua
You must love it.
Luscious Massacre
I Remember being like a little makeup nerd? Like, sometimes I would go to bed, and then before, like, I'd be in bed, I'll turn off the lights. I'm like, I'm trying to go to sleep, and then I'm thinking, okay, how can I get. Like, I need a concealer that is like, more like, it's smoother, but it's gonna give me more color, so I need to go try this. And so I was always constantly switching things, challenging myself, and also never being afraid to be ugly. Like, not being afraid to, like, there's gonna be a day where you try things and you're gonna look like it's gonna look awful. But then eventually, through the. Yeah, through that. All those errors, all those mistakes, eventually you will find that liner that looks delicious and you're gonna find that pink eyeshadow that worked, and you're gonna find the lunar beauty that is going to give it to you. Cause let me tell you, the majority of everything I'm wearing is Lunar Beauty till this day. Today, I used that little. Your little contour stick.
Lauralee
Yes.
Luscious Massacre
And then I use the pink powder, and then I use the. My shadows. Every single dragvestigation is Lunar Beauty eyeshadow. I use your day and night.
Lauralee
Life's a drag, honey girl.
Luscious Massacre
It's. By the way, I need a refill. The day and night, the little ones, yes. Those are all I use. Every single mug is the. The lid today is from the day, the nude one from the day, and then the black is the one from the night, because you have black in the night. And then, yeah, it's all like, it's all Lunar Beauty, but it's. Because this is good.
Emua
Amazing.
Luscious Massacre
She's good at what she does the best. She's. She. Because she's a little makeup nerd, too. She's always looking at the technical aspect of, like, what does this work? What is this gonna do? Is this gonna give less texture? Is this gonna. Do you have to be a little nerd?
Lauralee
100%. Well, also, like, when you're doing it for a living and you want, like, let's say, like, for me, I've always felt very passionately about making sure, like, the people that watch me in my audience, they got like, the truest reaction. They got the truest tea from me where I was like, no. I've literally spent my, like my adult life at this point, like, really working hard to figure out ways that things will always be better and, like, for a cost efficient way. You know what I mean?
Luscious Massacre
Like, I've Always just wanted the best trends, too.
Lauralee
Yeah, of course.
Luscious Massacre
Because a lot of these other bitches, they'll come in. I'm telling you, they're buying his products. And then they're like, we need to get this. We need to copy this.
Lauralee
I mean, I literally know in the lab.
Luscious Massacre
In the lab. They're in the labs. They're chasing her.
Emua
Yep.
Luscious Massacre
They're chasing her and her formulas in the labs.
Lauralee
I haven't had, like. I think now it's been, like, four it's the truth situations where the labs come back to me, and they're like, well, they brought in your product and they wanted to dupe it, but they.
Luscious Massacre
Do it all the time. I remember years ago, maybe like five years ago, I went to a convention, like, one of these makeup. I don't remember, like, a beauty con or whatever. And then I remember this makeup artist who worked for Mac came up to me, and they were like, luscious. They have you on the mood board. And I said, no. I said, these motherfuckers. And they won't give me a job, bitch. I do.
Lauralee
But they, yeah, you're on the mood board.
Luscious Massacre
I'm on the mood board, baby. We've been on the mood board, baby. Baby. We've been on these women's blueprints.
Lauralee
We've all been fucking blueprints, bitch. We've all been blueprinting. We've been doing this forever. It's so crazy when you think about it like. Like that. Did you start. Did you start when you were doing makeup, when you were first learning how to do it? Were you just practicing in your room, like, by yourself alone, like, in the dark? Like, is that how you started it?
Luscious Massacre
No. It first was born out of, like, a need to access my femininity, a need to, like, creativity. My friends, we were all going out. We were dressing up as dolls. And also, I think my makeup was born out of that. A desperation for our love. Because I would go out and I would get dressed up because I wanted to go meet men. I wanted to go out, and I wanted to find someone to see me, someone to dance with, someone to make me feel feminine and fragile. And so that's where my makeup initially was born, out of a need to access my femininity and go out into the world and feel loved. And I feel like that is drag, too.
Lauralee
Drag.
Luscious Massacre
We turn to drag, and drag saves our lives because we are able to. To find power and feel love through drag. Because we go out and people see us, they love us. They. They give us attention. They make us feel seen. Because the majority of drag queens, like, if you don't do drag. And I. I'm pretty, like, press the number two in the comments if there's any drag queens watching. If. If you don't like, drag saves your life. If you don't find. Like, if you don't find drag, and you were supposed to, you will be lost. It's out of a need for survival. And then, you know me with my brain, I was a little nerd. And then I became obsessed with it. And I was like, oh, my God, I have to. And I've gone through evolutions. Cause I used to do drag.
Lauralee
She was like, rhinestone drag.
Luscious Massacre
I call it serial killer drag. At this point, you're like, you don't even look human anymore. You just look like, bitch. You look so fierce that it's like, you're either gonna kill me or you're with the glamour. You're gonna kill me through glamour. And so that is where, like, I went through all that journey and then through drug investigations where I simplified everything. And it was just me going out with my friends. I turned to this, the real woman that I was.
Lauralee
The way you felt.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah. This is me. This is like, literally, there are days where I'm very queer in the sense where there are days where I'm a man, and then there are days where I live my whole day, my whole weak as a woman.
Emua
Yeah.
Luscious Massacre
And so I was. This was the. The real me. The drag queen was this character that I was creating through makeup. Because I loved makeup so much. And I was such a fan of that old school, huge Texas drag shout out to the Texas drag queens. But I. Eventually, I just had to realize you have to just be yourself.
Emua
Yep.
Luscious Massacre
Just go out there, make it simple, and just go out and shoot the people just want to see you and what you want to talk about. It's not like. It's not all about the makeup and the hair. So when I was able to evolve myself. Cause I reinvent myself, which was really scary at first. At first I was like, oh, my God, I'm betraying all the things I was. Cause I used to be like, I need huge hair, I need huge makeup. I need all these crystals and all these things. And then I was like, no, I'm known for this, but I'm going to reinvent myself. That's hard as an entertainer because, like, having to go away from all the things that you know and try to. But it's been the best journey. I've learned so much. Like Having to reinvent myself and just strip it all down, take it all away. Like, right now, I'm beat. When I go these track investigations, I just wear blush.
Emua
I don't even contour a baby cream.
Luscious Massacre
I just wear. I'm telling you, I wear that. I go in with. With that brown. I'm trying to remember what the name of it is. It's the burgundy one. So it's the black, then the deep.
Lauralee
Brown one, and then the bottom left one.
Luscious Massacre
Yes. I go in with that one and then with the nude from the day palette, and then with the black. And those are my three colors that I use for every episode. And then I do liner, a lash, and I put foundation, and then blush, and then the lip, and I'm out. I get ready in 30 minutes. Now.
Emua
Wow.
Luscious Massacre
At the 30 minute makeup challenge. And I do it, and I'm out the door because I'm like, just keep it simple. Get out of the makeup chair and go. I want to have fun too. Could you imagine if I had to shoot these videos every day and I was taking three hours?
Emua
You'll never do it. Never do it.
Luscious Massacre
I would never do it. You have to make it easy. I love this little hair.
Lauralee
It's so good.
Emua
This hair is so good.
Luscious Massacre
It's a bob on a bob.
Lauralee
It's a bob on a bob.
Emua
On my head, it's a bob on a bob. I'm envious. This is why bitches don't listen. I need to bob my head and give them a.
Lauralee
They'll listen to you.
Luscious Massacre
And I told my friend, I said, sister, can you put my bob on my bomb? Because these are my. I wear these two bobs. And then I said, just stack my BOB on top of my already bob so it's two little bobs stacked together. I was like, oh, my God, it's so cute.
Lauralee
It's bombs.
Emua
Please tell me to TikTok with your bob activated.
Luscious Massacre
I haven't even done it yet.
Emua
I have to.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah.
Lauralee
The activating of the BOB trend, like the little.
Luscious Massacre
I haven't even seen it.
Emua
Yes. I'll send it to you.
Luscious Massacre
I'm so bad with TikTok. Please send it to. I'm so bad with TikTok.
Emua
You would execute it because you just shake.
Lauralee
It is. It's literally just shaking. Oh, my God.
Emua
I need to do it.
Luscious Massacre
It's so cute.
Emua
Activate the bob.
Luscious Massacre
I need to activate this bob, honey.
Emua
I want to talk about the Jessica.
Lauralee
Simpson hanging right here. The pink bag.
Emua
Let's talk about Ms. Jessica.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah. I went out with her the other night and there was this friend of mine, she came up to me, she just bought a brand new Balenciaga and she was trying to show it off. And I said, sweetie, you're Balenciaga ain't got nothing on my Jessica sister. Sweetheart, she cost me 29.99. I bought her when I way before drag vest. I, I had already had that this purse for about a year before I even started drag investigations. I remember I was at a TJ Maxx. $29.99. I love the pink color. I also am like, I actually use my purse when I go out.
Lauralee
Absolutely.
Luscious Massacre
I needed a medium sized bag where I can fit my little, my selfie stick, my hairbrush, my makeup brush, my powder puff, all the things. Like, I need enough size to fit. And my fan, my big old fan favorite.
Lauralee
The fan.
Emua
The fan, honey.
Luscious Massacre
And so this purse, to me, it represents the struggle and the realness. Cause I really, a cross dresser has lived her life in that purse.
Emua
Ooh. It's seen many things.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah. And I, now that I've found success with the show and you know, I'm doing really well financially. Like, at first I was like, oh my God, should I get a new purse? Should I like, splurge and like. But then I realized, no, that's never been me. I've never cared. I, I, I told, I was telling my friend because she had the her Balenciaga. And I said, sister, you could have got that for $30 off the street.
Lauralee
It looked, it looked the exact same.
Luscious Massacre
It looked like a Ross purse, sister. It just had that B on it. But it could have also been bcbg or it could have been the Bebe. You remember Bebe? Yup. Baby, honey, it was the same thing. I don't need a very expensive purse to show me how valuable I am. I know my value. Sweetie. Baby, let me tell you.
Lauralee
I love that you said that. I'm that girl too.
Luscious Massacre
I love. Listen, one day I'm gonna take that purse to the Oscars.
Lauralee
Oof.
Luscious Massacre
One day I'm gonna take that purse to the Golden Globes and I'm gonna walk in there and there's gonna be that other girl with her $40,000 Hermes. And I'm gonna be like, you think I, you think I'm bothered? You think I feel any kind of way? Babe, let me tell you, my Jessica Simpson, she made my dreams come true. Sweetheart, I can't be bothered by your mess. Sweetheart.
Lauralee
That'S the truth.
Luscious Massacre
That's how you some people get so distracted. 100% I literally looked at my sister and I said, sister, you could have saved that money. Sister, you could have saved that money. Sister, you could have done so many more things with that money. Sister. Sister, please stop. Stop doing this to your. There are so many girls here in la, let me tell you this. They are so consumed by. I need to have the. This Schiaparelli dress and I have to have the Hermes bag. But meanwhile, you don't have a house in your name. You don't have a car in your name.
Lauralee
The clock is a little too real. The clock is a little too real.
Luscious Massacre
You are running around distracted, you're not paying attention, and you're a dumb bitch. It's true. Let me tell you something. If you don't own your house and if you don't own a car, you ain't got no reason to be spending $5,000 on a purse.
Emua
1,000.
Luscious Massacre
These girls just. They're not paying attention. These girls.
Emua
Priorities, babe. Priorities.
Luscious Massacre
They're not paying attention.
Emua
Have you ever done a what's in my bag video for the Internet?
Luscious Massacre
I actually haven't. Should I pull. Should I pull something out?
Lauralee
Pull something out right now. She met Jessica in her.
Luscious Massacre
Jessica?
Lauralee
Yeah.
Luscious Massacre
Jessica signed the purse and Jessica Simpson signed her purse. Jessica Simpson. I live for her. Let me tell you when I met. Okay, let me see what I.
Lauralee
Wait, what?
Luscious Massacre
Oh, my God. This is old as hell. Look at this.
Lauralee
Colourpop X Barbie.
Luscious Massacre
And it's disgusting. Cause it's real.
Emua
I know.
Lauralee
It seems I look sickening.
Emua
Let me see.
Luscious Massacre
I got my little brush teaser. Tangler.
Emua
Teeth tangler.
Luscious Massacre
Yep.
Lauralee
For the double bump.
Emua
Yup.
Luscious Massacre
Let me see. I have.
Lauralee
I love this. This is literally a look inside.
Luscious Massacre
Look inside. I have my little brush breath spray. You gotta go. You have a little breath spray?
Lauralee
A crest breath.
Luscious Massacre
I have a little perfume.
Emua
Because you always smell good.
Luscious Massacre
A gentle. A gentle woman. A gentle woman. We always have to mask the manly smell. Of course we have to mask the manly smell. Please. And then what? And I. This is my favorite item. If I don't have this in my purse, I go crazy. I use this little brush and I run it under my eye and it gets rid of all the little creases and the little.
Lauralee
I need to run that in my.
Luscious Massacre
It just like smooths everything out.
Emua
Yes.
Luscious Massacre
And if I don't have this brush in my purse, I'm like, damn, why did I even bring a purse?
Lauralee
And it's a morphe.
Luscious Massacre
It's a cheap little brush, you know?
Lauralee
S403.
Emua
I'm like, this.
Luscious Massacre
Damn the girl. Oh, I forget. I'm here with the beauty guru.
Lauralee
I love it.
Luscious Massacre
It's Morphe still with us.
Lauralee
She's still there.
Luscious Massacre
She still has life.
Lauralee
She still has life.
Emua
Ulta's keeping her going.
Lauralee
Yeah, El. Keeping her.
Luscious Massacre
Let me tell you something. These girls, they will be fantastical, and they will still try to live. I live.
Lauralee
They're still trying.
Emua
They will try to live.
Luscious Massacre
They will try.
Emua
That's my new saying. These girls will try to live.
Lauralee
They will try to live.
Luscious Massacre
Let me tell you, these girls will try to live. I.
Lauralee
Every time I hang out with her, I feel like I come back and I'm like, God, I have a new tick. I have a new luscious tick. It will activate every single time for me.
Luscious Massacre
But let me tell you something. Is life worth living? Sometimes life is worth some of the. Is life worth living for these girls? Sometimes.
Lauralee
Is it worth it?
Luscious Massacre
I don't know.
Lauralee
Probably not.
Luscious Massacre
Well, you know, a lot of people have just, you know, they're living, but are they really? No. Are they alive?
Lauralee
They're surviving. They're not living. They're surviving.
Luscious Massacre
They're surviving and enduring.
Lauralee
They're enduring.
Luscious Massacre
They're not thriving. We just. We just. We got it.
Lauralee
We cracked the coat.
Luscious Massacre
Another level. They are surviving and enduring, but they're not thriving. Oh, there's so many people that are. Remember the old beauty gurus? A lot of them are just enduring life. They're not. We do actually know they're not thriving. We know the majority of them, they're just. They're enduring. Enduring because there's no other option because.
Lauralee
They go back to regular jobs.
Luscious Massacre
They're not thriving. No. And you know they're not happy.
Lauralee
Sister.
Luscious Massacre
Press the number 5 in the comments if you think the girls are happy.
Lauralee
People are gonna comment 1, 2, 5.
Emua
I'm gonna be like, you're trans. Fucked up.
Luscious Massacre
Let's make it more shady. Press the number six in the comments if you think they're not happy.
Lauralee
I love it. I love it. Okay, so this has been one of my favorite episodes we've ever filmed. I love you so much. I know. I'm obsessed with you. Where can they find you? On drug investigation.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah.
Lauralee
If you want them, that.
Luscious Massacre
If you want us, if you want to find me, go on YouTube at Luscious Massacre across all platforms, on tick tock, Instagram, YouTube, on Twitch, everything. Twitter. I'm really good on Twitter, too. Sharing me. I'd be going viral on Twitter.
Lauralee
You are an activist on Twitter too. You are.
Luscious Massacre
Luscious Massacre. I think we are in a place right now in America where we can no longer just support people that are not gonna keep it real.
Lauralee
100%.
Luscious Massacre
Which democracy is under attack.
Emua
It is 100%.
Luscious Massacre
And we have to share our ideas and our fears, and we also have to try to give people hope. If you're just like that bitch the other day at the Grammys, that jelly roll. I'm like, baby, roll yourself out. If you're not gonna talk about it and keep it real, then what's the point? Something is wrong.
Emua
Get out.
Luscious Massacre
You probably. You probably know you made a mistake, who you voted for, sweetie. And so those. We need to really support people that deserve it.
Lauralee
Yeah, I agree.
Luscious Massacre
Who don't deserve it. Don't support them. Don't watch them. Let them go back to getting a job at Walmart.
Lauralee
Let it.
Luscious Massacre
Maybe they'll be happier, honestly. Maybe they will thrive at Walmart. There's nothing wrong with that.
Lauralee
Or survive.
Emua
Or some barely.
Luscious Massacre
Or maybe they'll just endure. They'll just endure or try to survive. But listen, they'll be fine.
Emua
That's right.
Luscious Massacre
They got no choice.
Lauralee
You know what's really crazy about Luscious? Luscious is the first drag queen to ever put me in drag. So she's technically my drag mother.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah, this is my drag child, my drag.
Lauralee
I'm one of the.
Luscious Massacre
This is my drag son. The only drag son that I have.
Emua
Wow.
Lauralee
It's not cool. I'm technically a massacre.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah, I remember when I put you in drag, too, and it was Bricky. You come along with me.
Lauralee
I was Bricky.
Luscious Massacre
It's. Cause back then, it was like a certain style of drag, and it's not for everyone, you know, but it was still pretty cute.
Lauralee
Yeah, it was. The makeup was good. I just was Bricky.
Luscious Massacre
Yeah, of course.
Lauralee
It's just my face. What am I supposed to do?
Luscious Massacre
Well, you know, there's a lot of. There is a lot of masculinity in you.
Emua
There is linebacker.
Lauralee
Yeah, linebacker. Some might say absolutely, absolutely without hesitation.
Luscious Massacre
No, no, no. Very, very attractive man. But when you try to turn into a woman, it's a journey for sure.
Emua
I said, if you're gender, I will be on your journey with you.
Lauralee
But it's gonna be like. It's gonna be a journey.
Luscious Massacre
It is going to journey through space and time.
Emua
And we will be here, but every.
Lauralee
Step of the way, honey.
Emua
Space and time.
Luscious Massacre
Yes, sweetie. The girls, honey.
Lauralee
Oh, my God. I love you and I hope you guys had fun watching. I will leave, of course, all of Luscious's information down leave a like a share everything. Honey we got all the numbers now.
Luscious Massacre
Membership? Y' all got membership?
Lauralee
No, but we good.
Luscious Massacre
Might be coming soon Baby the girls. Honey baby this is a job.
Lauralee
This is a full time job. Honey, it's a full time job.
Luscious Massacre
The girls pay the bills sweetheart.
Emua
Hello.
Luscious Massacre
Shalom.
Lauralee
We love you guys and we'll catch you on our next episode. Bye.
Luscious Massacre
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Hosts: Manny MUA (Emua) & Laura Lee
Guest: Luscious Massacre
Release Date: February 13, 2026
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This episode is a glamorous and candid reunion featuring beauty OGs Manny MUA and Laura Lee with their longtime friend and guest Luscious Massacre—Emmy Award-winning artist, drag queen, comedian, and YouTube mainstay. They dive into the dark side of YouTube drama, the pitfalls (and survivals) of social media influencer life, loyalty in the industry, queer identity, the secret powers of femininity, the making of "Dragvestigations," thriving through failure, and what it really takes to live, not just survive. The conversation is peppered with raw honesty, laughter, and empowerment.
Trauma & Toxicity Among Influencers
Unusual Loyalty
Early Career & Realizations
Therapy Anecdote
Moving from Texas to LA
Navigating LA’s Trap
Learning from Failure
Delusion & Queer Freedom
Conception of the Show
Loving One’s Own Beauty
Makeup Nerds & Product Development
Influencer Realities
Jessica Simpson Bag Saga
Real Priorities
On Therapy & Calling Out the Healer:
"You have no business sitting in that therapist’s chair. I should report you because you don't need to… I'm going to tell you the truth." — Luscious (06:41–08:00)
On Fame & Originality:
“You have to show us who you are. You need to believe in yourself. Trust yourself. Trust your voice. You have to be an original.” — Luscious (12:44)
On Surviving LA:
“I have to be aware that there is a lifestyle here in LA and I can't fall into it.” — Luscious (10:23)
On Failure:
“If you’re failing right now, it’s a moment, it’s a chapter in your life. But the page will turn.” — Luscious (20:09)
On Queer Freedom:
“We don’t have to subscribe to all these prisons… We can set ourselves free.” — Luscious (23:13)
On Beauty & Self-Perception:
“I see my beauty. And let me tell you, I believe my beauty. And I have had men come up to me and they see the beauty, too, baby.” — Luscious (29:03)
On Surviving vs. Thriving:
"They're not thriving. We know the majority of them, they're just... they're enduring. Enduring because there's no other option." — Luscious (67:04)
The episode is campy, irreverent, and deeply authentic—bouncing between riotous drag banter, no-holds-barred truth-telling, and moments of powerful vulnerability. Luscious’ voice is by turns comedic, empowering, and uncensored; Manny and Laura are loving, sassy, and always supportive.
Despite all the beauty industry’s smoke and mirrors, Luscious Massacre, Laura, and Manny show that survival—real survival—means failing, learning, loving oneself, and building something meaningful. The episode is a vivid blueprint for anyone (especially queer folks and aspiring creators) on the grind, constantly reminded to embrace their originality, value themselves above all else, and—above everything—keep going.