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Laura Lee
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Manny Mua
I gotta love this book. We're informative. I want to be informed human individuals.
Laura Lee
Welcome to your favorite podcast. It's full coverage with your host, Laura Lee and Manny Muay.
Manny Mua
Hi you guys, we're still back in the studio. Can we just quickly just address what just happened right now? Cause it is so freaking funny.
Laura Lee
We're like in a newer studio. Obviously we haven't filmed her before. So, you know, we don't know the landscape of the land.
Manny Mua
The landscape of the land.
Laura Lee
The landscape of the land. So they have this glass wall at this studio and you have to just like walk around the glass wall and then you can see, you go through the door. You can see your footage. But the wall is very clean.
Manny Mua
The glass is clean, baby. Crystal clear. I'll be sorry. So I went to go look around to see what Laura looked like and things. I was like, I recorded a video so you can see what the video looks like.
Laura Lee
He's checking the monitor.
Manny Mua
So I come back around and I almost run into the, the, into the freaking glass. And I'm like, you guys, the glass is so clear, I almost, I almost walk right through it. Almost hit myself. So then of course I walk around.
Laura Lee
And they were like, actually that happens from time to time. Yeah, that happens because there's big glass Wal, like people will run into it actually.
Manny Mua
So I was like, oh my God, that's so funny. So Laura goes and checks for me and records the footage for me.
Laura Lee
I ran into this and it had been less than like three minutes. We just talked about the fact that everyone keeps running into the glass.
Manny Mua
I literally, I thought I heard a bird hit the glass window.
Laura Lee
It was my ring.
Manny Mua
It was her. She hits the glass and she. I look over and I see her. She, like this.
Laura Lee
I fell for stumbling.
Manny Mua
No, literally, she was falling for four minutes.
Laura Lee
I just immediately started laughing because whenever I hit it, I was like, I cannot believe.
Manny Mua
I thought it was on purpose. I was like, you done the purpose for, like. I was like, oh, it's Laura. It was a doctor on purpose.
Laura Lee
No, no, no, no.
Manny Mua
The clumsy. It jumped out. Really? The Clumsy jumped out on that one.
Laura Lee
So that's my pit, you guys. Okay.
Manny Mua
About five minutes ago, you guys, it was actually kind of like.
Laura Lee
It was so funny. I wish we were recording.
Manny Mua
I really wish we were recording, at.
Laura Lee
Least so you guys could hear it, because the clank was hilarious. I have so many rings. It scared me because I was on my phone looking at the footage that I just recorded for Manny, and I came around the corner and smacked right into it.
Manny Mua
I thought it was our freaking head. I know. Like, the whole thing. The whole face of foundation on the glass.
Laura Lee
That's why I said. I said if my face hit this glass, we would have to get a cleaner.
Manny Mua
It'd be like this. An imprint of your whole face.
Laura Lee
A mess.
Manny Mua
My pit is that I went on a brunch date last week. I was, like, the first day. Like, first, like, real day I've been on, and it, like, didn't, like, go great. And it's, like, always, like, so unfortunate because, like, you can be talking to someone for, like, let's say, a week, and you're, like, chatting every day and you think things are going well, whatever. You guys meet in person. Like, there's just, like, no chemistry and just kind of like, why am I wasting my time?
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
It feels like sometimes it's just so frustrating. Just feel like I'm wasting my time. And, like, time is the most precious thing you guys. Like, it's such a, like, valuable reason. Yeah. And so it's like, to me, it's like. It feels like an actual, like, waste of my freaking time and waste of my day. And I like to be the. Like, now as I've gotten older, I'm the type that's, like, I'm sending voice notes and videos, and I not expect, but I'm like, I'm wanting them to send it to me so that I can get a gauge of vibe immediately. Like, because I'm like, well, what if I don't like the way you sound? If I don't like the way you act? Like, what if I get eggs from that? He sent me voice notes, and I liked the voice notes. I thought they were fine. It was just in person.
Laura Lee
We just didn't get a chemistry. More out of voice notes. Way more. You're gonna have. Yeah, way.
Manny Mua
Then attack actual conversations. You actually have a conversation on a voice note. So I. So I usually will have them do that or like, I've done it where we've FaceTimed before, and that was at least a gauge because then I was like, if I would cancel if I didn't like the FaceTime, then I'm like, I don't have to go somewhere. I have to waste my time and go get like, a dinner or something.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
So we met in person. I thought it was gonna be cool, and everything was great. We just had no, like, real, like, chemistry where it's like, kind of like. There's like, awkward sciences, awkward pauses. It's kind of like that, like, awkward thing. But it was fine. And he was still really, really sweet and cool and was, like, down to earth. Still. Great vibes, but it was just kind of like a flop. I had to restart again.
Laura Lee
Yeah. How long have you been talking to this?
Manny Mua
Not long. A week. But just kind of like one of those things where it's like, yeah, another one.
Laura Lee
It's the hope.
Manny Mua
It's the. Yeah, I think that's.
Laura Lee
It is the hope that, like, somewhere. The maybe. And then you find out quickly that it's a flopper.
Manny Mua
It was a nope. It was. It went from hope to nope. Laura. Bummer. Hope to nope. I'm writing a book from nope.
Laura Lee
A lot of people would read that first.
Manny Mua
I think they would read that. So, yeah. So now I actually have another date in two days.
Laura Lee
Different person.
Manny Mua
Different person.
Laura Lee
That's good. So my peak this week is very grandmother me. I feel like I definitely am the type of person who lives two lives. I'm, like, at Coachella, partying, Italy, vacay. And now I spent my whole entire Sunday gardening.
Manny Mua
Oh, wow. Great grandmother.
Laura Lee
Great grandmother.
Manny Mua
Granny.
Laura Lee
I'm like, it's so funny. The juxtaposition, like, cut to me. One weekend, I'm raging at Coachella, going to bed at 5am and then, like, two weekends later, I'm literally in my garden. Birds chirping and planting the soil of the earth.
Manny Mua
Yes. Green thumb activated. Very. Wearing a cross, even.
Laura Lee
Yes. Yes.
Manny Mua
Sun hat.
Laura Lee
Sun hat. Christian ways. Y.
Manny Mua
Love that. So wait, what did you end up like? What did you bury? What do they call it? Plant.
Laura Lee
I mean, berry.
Manny Mua
What did you plant?
Laura Lee
It was very specific. I have these gorgeous Go. I have a green thumb. I get it from my mom, but I have these gorgeous stone rods thank you.
Manny Mua
I have plants everywhere in my house.
Laura Lee
And I'm pretty good at keeping them alive.
Manny Mua
They're alive. You guys. This is crazy.
Laura Lee
I need it to trim all of my. I have, like, little trees around outside, and they all need it trimming. I trim them and then I needed to plant, replace some little patches of like. I forget what it's called. It's like a type of grass. It's just for looks around the flower bed that had died. I need to replace some of that. I need to re. Mulch the backyard. So I remulched the backyard and then I had to plant a couple succulents in my stones out front. None of it's interesting.
Manny Mua
No. That sounds like a lot of work.
Laura Lee
It was. It was a lot. But it was so much fun.
Manny Mua
I'm honestly. As long as you have fun doing it.
Laura Lee
That's all I really, you know, I love being out.
Manny Mua
People love to garden.
Laura Lee
They do.
Manny Mua
People love gardening. You know, when I was little, I truly used to think that having a green thumb meant, like, you had a magical thumb.
Laura Lee
Oh, of course.
Manny Mua
I literally thought that. I'm not kidding. Like, I literally was like, oh, when you're planting, the thumb gets into, like, the soil and there's like some magic. It gets tossed in there. You. You're growing a real plant. I genuinely thought that.
Laura Lee
You know, I wish I was kidding that, but not without the magic. It's like that magic of life. It's the magic of life, perhaps, period. I love that. But I just loved it. I love gardening. I don't talk enough about it. That's what I did on Sunday, and it was a peak of happiness not looking at a screen.
Manny Mua
Oh, I know that's real.
Laura Lee
I say that with, like, vengeance because I look at screens way too much. So.
Manny Mua
Guilty.
Laura Lee
If it's not the tv, if it's not my phone, it's my laptop. It's not my laptop, it's the tv. There's never not a screen. My tv. The. I mean, you know, the screen in your car.
Manny Mua
Yes.
Laura Lee
Everything looking a screen. A screen screen.
Manny Mua
Why do you think I wear those glasses? The blue light glass just in my mind.
Laura Lee
I think it helps, you know? So I was like, I need to fix these things. I want to spend a whole day just gardening and being outside and not even have my phone on me. And I did.
Manny Mua
It was the best day ever in nature. And just like one with the roof.
Laura Lee
In la listening to helicopter, LAPD flyby. Yeah.
Manny Mua
Just constant. Yeah. Every sound possible.
Laura Lee
You're going to hear in your yard. Sirens, all the things. Me in my garden.
Manny Mua
Well, it sounds lovely, to be honest.
Laura Lee
It was lovely in a way.
Manny Mua
Lovely for you, I feel. Yeah, not lovely for me, more like for you. I have a gardener.
Laura Lee
Me too. But, you know, I got a lot.
Manny Mua
You want to get in there too. And he's not. They're not going to take care of your plants the way you take care of your plants.
Laura Lee
It's more like maintenance. They're just like, you know, doing the maintenance.
Manny Mua
Trimming the bushes.
Laura Lee
Yeah, that kind of stuff. But all your little meticulous plants and things, you got to do that.
Manny Mua
Your little figs, your little sticks.
Laura Lee
My sticks?
Manny Mua
Yeah, you little sticks. I know about those little sticks. That's all.
Laura Lee
I love them.
Manny Mua
My peak is I actually went to my first ever Abby drag brunch, which I've never done before. I never. I actually don't think I've ever even done drag brunch before. And it honestly was a lot of fun. And, like, I had. Don't know why I had never, like, committed and, like, she, like, done it maybe also, I don't date drink, so that's also probably why I don't. I'm not doing, like, mimosas. I'm not doing that kind of thing. My friend was literally like, I'm going tomorrow. Do you want to just, like, pop by? And I'm like, sure. We're going to brunch. Didn't realize it was drag brunch. And when we went, I was really like, wait, this is like, kind of really fun. Seeing the queens perform while you're eating brunch.
Laura Lee
That's being a drag queen. The craziest job.
Manny Mua
When I saw them being in full drag at.
Laura Lee
It's a crazy job. You're just an. You're an entertainer, but not for just a regular crowd people. They're always drinking and it's normally late night stuff. Brunch obviously isn't a late night one. So they're during the drag. Brunch is super famous.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura Lee
A lot of it's night. Nightlife.
Manny Mua
Yes. The gigs. The gigs, yes. You're doing your nighttime gigs. That's the normal gig. Like, literally, like, you could be doing it five times a week.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
In drag. Full drag, full entertaining, full hosting or full performing.
Laura Lee
They host a lot.
Manny Mua
And it was actually cornbread. You remember cornbread?
Laura Lee
Love cornbread. Yes.
Manny Mua
She was the host of it. And it was cool because, like, there was one of the girlies I was performing. She was from the show Legendary, which was on hbo and like, the fact that they took Legendary off, I'm, like, so upset because I, like, I remember telling Laura, I was like, laura, I want you to watch Legendary.
Laura Lee
I was like, you guys. I was like. In the group chat, I was like, you guys, there's no Legendary. Like, what do you mean? There's no Legendary.
Manny Mua
So dumb. And hbo. You guys have, like, a literal.
Laura Lee
Like, I got the budget.
Manny Mua
A budget to keep a show on. It's not even. Like, you're. What are you gonna do? Just have it in your freaking browser? Girl, please.
Laura Lee
There must be some licensing they have to pay out.
Manny Mua
Probably.
Laura Lee
So they don't want to pay it anymore.
Manny Mua
Or they don't want to pay the hosts.
Laura Lee
Maybe.
Manny Mua
Probably. Or, like, the jud judges. You know, he was one of the judges. Okay, maybe so, like, Megan the Stallion, Something like that.
Laura Lee
Maybe they want to pay them so they have to. I don't know. I don't know.
Manny Mua
That actually makes a lot of sense. So at least that makes the most sense to me. But it was basically a show kind. It was a competition show about. But it was like a ballroom competition show, or it's literally like houses versus houses. And they would do performances, and, like, they would do like. Like, that was, like, the whole show. It was so fun to watch. And so one of the girlies was from there from season one, and so she was literally, like. I said, laura video. I was obviously, like, sending Laura videos the whole time. And it was just so fun to see someone in person do the little, like. Yeah, so definitely. I want to do more drag brunches. All right, we're gonna go on the.
Laura Lee
List for 20, 25.
Manny Mua
Yeah. I was like. But actually, like, a plan one. I want to do, like, a planned, like, impromptu. Not impromptu. I was like, I want to do, like, a real one where we, like, have, like, watch to get, like, a good table that we want to get. Like, we'll take dollar bills.
Laura Lee
Yes.
Manny Mua
Give the queen some cash. Yes. Pay the entertainers. So more drag brunches. You have to let me know if you guys have ever seen drag brunch, but they're really fun.
Laura Lee
Okay. Hot Topics.
Manny Mua
Oh, not Hot Topics. Nope. No, we're doing.
Laura Lee
We're doing unpopular opinions.
Manny Mua
Unpopular opinions.
Laura Lee
Hot takes.
Manny Mua
Hot takes.
Laura Lee
Hot takes.
Manny Mua
It was really, like, a combination of.
Laura Lee
Yes. Yeah. I'm so used to saying the hot toppings.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura Lee
We're doing hot takes. So these are unpopular opinions, meaning they're not popular, meaning they're meant to piss you off and you are meant to not agree with us. That's the point.
Manny Mua
Or you just have a niche opinion and agree. Oh, that's. That's an absolute potential as well. Because, like, what if you have an apoplean that I agree with? I know I have one in there. Like, you're literally gonna be like, am.
Laura Lee
I gonna throw you through the window?
Manny Mua
Because, you know, every single one I have, at least I have to have one that's like, oh, that's lit. I have one of them. That's.
Laura Lee
And then I'm like, oh, none you're gonna be pissed at. But I wish I had one that would make you mad.
Manny Mua
Last time you were like, I don't like anime. And I was like, oh, did I? Yeah. And it was so fucking funny.
Laura Lee
I don't.
Manny Mua
And I was like, I have something.
Laura Lee
Going to piss off our audience. Oh, yeah, they're going to get.
Manny Mua
Why don't you start off fierce and once you just start us off real strong.
Laura Lee
I'm not starting off strong because.
Manny Mua
Oh, sort of soft.
Laura Lee
I'm starting off soft.
Manny Mua
Soft.
Laura Lee
Y' all have to watch.
Manny Mua
Yeah. Oh, good idea. Good idea. We'll start it off chill and then it'll get fiercer along the way.
Laura Lee
My first one is, I like that my man plays video games. You know, it's like you said it. Yeah, I love it. In fact, it's my. I don't need my man up my ass. And I'm not saying people that don't, because men. The thing is, they will neglect a woman in a heartbeat for a video game. So I'm not saying that, you know, if you don't like it, you like your man up your ass. I'm not saying that. I just really like when he goes and plays his game.
Manny Mua
Because you're independent. That's the thing, too.
Laura Lee
I think that makes a big difference. I love being alone. I love my time. I love watching my tiktoks and being in my bed and eating.
Manny Mua
Watching your snacks, watching the show.
Laura Lee
I want to watch. So when he's like, I'm gonna play my game for a little bit. We do make funny tiktoks where we're like, how dare you?
Manny Mua
Of course it's funny. It's a joke. People can relate to that joke, too.
Laura Lee
Exactly. Like, that's like a real thing. However, I love it. I love when my man plays his game. It's his alone time to ty should have little hobbies and things that he likes to do outside of me, 100%.
Manny Mua
And that's one of you, too, and, like, vice versa.
Laura Lee
So that's one of his and I actually. But I hear these horror stories from my friends and like them throwing the video game away and like all the stuff. Stuff.
Manny Mua
Oh my God, I feel like men abuse it for sure.
Laura Lee
You know what I mean?
Manny Mua
Can attest.
Laura Lee
You're so single though.
Manny Mua
I know for me like it does.
Laura Lee
You know, so you're not like leaving someone out. You have free will so you're able to play. But you know how these men be accent with this video.
Manny Mua
Well, I know it's definitely a thing too like where like they'll purposefully ignore because it's like, oh, I was playing my game like almost like on purpose to like, oh, I can't be on my phone. I was playing my game.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
To ignore.
Laura Lee
Yes.
Manny Mua
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Manny Mua
So like using it as almost like a way where it's like, oh, you're villainizing the game. But it's really like you're just not being. Yeah. Communicative at all. But I think it's really important. I also think that like, the idea of like couples having, you know, hobbies and doing their own things is like a super important aspect to just being in a healthy relationship.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
At the end of the day, if you are up your ass 24 7, it's kind of be like actually, you know what? If you're a codependent person like that maybe it works.
Laura Lee
Me and Ty are a little codependent.
Manny Mua
Yeah. But you have a lot of independence individually. So I think that's the difference. Like you like to do things together. Obviously you guys are relationship but like, you like to do things separately too. I think that's where like you can be codependent on each other, but that just means you're. No, it's not even. I don't even think you're like codependent. You're just dependent on one of their four things. But you're not like, yeah, like, oh, but he has to be part of it or she has to be part of it. It's like, no. Like, you guys can do your own things too.
Laura Lee
I think in healthy relationships, like each couple, each person in the relationship goes out on their own too with their.
Manny Mua
For sure does their own things.
Laura Lee
I see a lot of relationships where they don't. Whenever there's trust issues.
Manny Mua
Oh, so maybe like you don't 100.
Laura Lee
Trust what they're doing or who they're with. So the man or Woman. This could be either person.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura Lee
Targeting a wife or husband. Or wife, wife, husband, whoever. The partner, I should say, in the relationship, you know, is like, keeps a short leash or like, doesn't like for their man to go out and leave jealousy involved. Whenever it's like a trust issue or jealousy involved, I think that can get really toxic because I think it's so important that you have relationships outside of your relationships. And that doesn't mean that those relationships are better and more important than your relationship.
Manny Mua
No, it's just, like, different.
Laura Lee
It's different kind. It's part of living.
Manny Mua
And also probably makes you appreciate your relationship even more in aspects too. Or like, let's say. I don't know, let's say, like, Ty's being a. About something and you're like, girl, he's being a. And I'm like, oh, well, maybe he, like, seeing it this way. Or I'll take. Honestly, I'm taking 9.9. I'm taking your side. I was like, taking your side.
Laura Lee
How dare you.
Manny Mua
I'm taking your side. But it's also, like, maybe just like a different opinion at times too. And it's kind of like, nice to get, like, multiple opinions about different things.
Laura Lee
You can't miss someone if you don't get the. Away from them.
Manny Mua
Exactly. That's like a love language. Like, in a way, it's like you have to be able to be independent at times. At times, you know, but then also be dependent when you're in a fucking relationship at the end of the day. Like, it is what it is. Okay, let's see what is. Okay. I'm sorry, too. I think that if you don't cuss, you're fucking weird. Oh, you're weird. I'm gonna be so real. I think that if you don't curse at all and you're tired, that's like, oh, heck. Instead of hell, like, just say hell. I don't believe that you're like, a real person. I think that you're, like, so aware of how people perceive you that you can't even be real about something. Oh, like, I genuinely. That's what I think. It's deep, but it's literally like, it's still light in the way where it's like. I just think that if you're the type person that's like, avoid curse words. Or you're like. Like, you know, like, oh, my goodness. Or like, I don't know, just like, avoiding words like freak. Like, what the freak. It's kind of like, oh, so you're trying so hard to be, like, proceed at this. Like, like soft, demure angel. And I like that.
Laura Lee
Even if you cuss behind the scenes, that's cool.
Manny Mua
If they don't cuss at all, even behind the scenes, like, are they just like, a person?
Laura Lee
I'm saying, like, if they don't cuss, like, in public, but behind closed doors, they're like, a little cuss work. It's in there. That's real. That's.
Manny Mua
Yes, because it's real.
Laura Lee
Someone who's just like, won't say.
Manny Mua
They won't say it. I think it's weird because I actually don't think that you're, like, being as authentic either.
Laura Lee
Do you think people, like, that's a religious thing to any extent?
Manny Mua
Yeah, absolutely. I think that there's aspects of it for sure. For some. I definitely. There's aspects of it for sure. But I also think that there's some. Something about, like, being perceived as, like, innocent or being perceived as, like, better than. Because I'm like, babe, you're not. Better than. Yeah, the curse word, like, at the end. I think that people that do curse tend to be a little bit more authentic because they're just gonna be a little bit more real about something and they're kind of being like. And I'm not saying cursing, like, if you're a child, obviously don't curse, like, whatever. Like, I'm saying, like, in the aspect of, like, being a grown up and like, you're trying to. You avoid cursing and use different words to replace. I knew I used to know people growing up now, like, that. Not really now. I think we do. No, we. I definitely. Not that. That. Not that I can think of. I think it's more of like a. A weird, quirky thing. I don't know anyone that does it.
Laura Lee
Soulful, perfect, criminal, proper person.
Manny Mua
Still does. Because I'm also like. I also understand people won't curse, like, let's say, for their job or at work or, you know, on social media. But if you're not even, like, within your friends. I mean, like, that was such a.
Laura Lee
Do you think it's weird that married couples don't poop in front of each other?
Manny Mua
If they don't.
Laura Lee
Yeah. I don't mean you don't have to have them in the bathroom.
Manny Mua
I was gonna say, like. But, like, in the toilet with you.
Laura Lee
You'Re like, hiding the poop, girl.
Manny Mua
That's weird.
Laura Lee
It's weird.
Manny Mua
That's weird to me. Why would you hide it? I mean, I'd be like, yo, just.
Laura Lee
Don'T go in there humanly function.
Manny Mua
Like, I was like, babe, that's like, just the reality of life. Or, like, if I'm in, like, the toilet section where, like, the doors close and someone's like, in the sink, I'm.
Laura Lee
Like, are you living in 1950s?
Manny Mua
I'm like, hello.
Laura Lee
Take a.
Manny Mua
Take the damn. If anything, I'm the type that will still like, like, like, with my friends. I'll, like, play music, something I don't want you to hear it hit, like, the water.
Laura Lee
That's so fair. But your husband.
Manny Mua
Oh, yeah. Like, I don't know.
Laura Lee
I think that one's strange.
Manny Mua
I think that's strange. I think that's not to trail.
Laura Lee
But you're like.
Manny Mua
You're like, as. Like a. As another one that I had. I think that's.
Laura Lee
Let me throw that one in there too. Okay. Hot take. Not all gossip is bad. I think gossiping is a way of communication. And I did do a little exploration on this one because.
Manny Mua
Okay, this is.
Laura Lee
I know you, dude.
Manny Mua
I love this.
Laura Lee
Our excuse for gossiping is we like to say we're just discussing events that have happened. We're not adding two.
Manny Mua
No. Right.
Laura Lee
We're not like, dog, it already happened. It already happened. We're just discussing the news and the social.
Manny Mua
We're informative.
Laura Lee
We want to be informed one another and individuals, however. So this woman on TikTok love that resource.
Manny Mua
I was gonna. I would literally be like, yes, woman on TikTok. The stranger.
Laura Lee
Yeah, I feel guilty.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura Lee
The stranger talking on Tik Tok was talking about how society. Men in society put out there to begin with that gossiping is bad because it was the way that women in society were able to share information, communicate, and get resources. So men didn't like that women were getting resources through gossiping and talking. And that's what kind of a lot of women did. So they put out the standpoint gossiping is bad, and it, like, derives from, like, men in the past. And so it was like, we as women need to break this down as gossiping's not bad.
Manny Mua
And I said, listen, so gossiping is just talking then. So you're just talking about what's happening.
Laura Lee
Communicating. So you're communicating about someone that isn't there.
Manny Mua
That's what gossiping means, girl. I don't give a.
Laura Lee
What the people are like, we shouldn't gossip, which. I get it.
Manny Mua
No, I do.
Laura Lee
I get to an extent. If you're just flat out. Because people get on my nerves.
Manny Mua
I think that's them Talking. Yeah, I think that's heavy.
Laura Lee
Talkers get on my nerves. Like, I don't need to come home from an event. Sure, we can discuss the main points, for sure, but we ain't got to talk about anyone's looks. We don't have to talk about every little thing someone says. I think the way they said it give a. That's the problem. I don't care to talk about everyone there. I like most of the people I see in the events. I don't want to talk badly about them. Can we do a little Kiki and Haha. For sure, sure. But you know how the girlies.
Manny Mua
I do.
Laura Lee
The gays, they'll kind of be like, let's talk.
Manny Mua
Let's shred them.
Laura Lee
I don't want to.
Manny Mua
No, I totally don't. Just say. I think there's a big difference between, like, idol gossip and talking. Yeah, 1,000%. Like, if you're talking to me, it's like. If you're talking about a situation that happened at a thing and you're just talking about what happened, that's gossip. That's. I. Let's. That's literally like, whatever. That's whatever. If you're, like, shredding someone for something in a fierce way for, like, no reason. I think you're just being a talker.
Laura Lee
I think you're being a talker.
Manny Mua
I think there's a huge difference. To me. I love a little gossip.
Laura Lee
Shit talk is okay, though. I never. I said gossip.
Manny Mua
Gossip, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, I love a little goss. Like, for sure. No, for sure. I was like, I love a little hot goss.
Laura Lee
They're like, great, so we're gonna go.
Manny Mua
Wait a Shit talk. No, no. Yeah. No, I think that it is really a form of, like, communication and bonding, really.
Laura Lee
Bonding.
Manny Mua
It's bonding. Honestly.
Laura Lee
Bonding.
Manny Mua
It's sisterly bonding. I cannot even fathom the idea of not having, like, my girls to talk to and, like, have a little, like, girl. I need to debrief.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
And honestly, another hot take. I'm gonna be real. If I tell you before, I was like, hey, I'm gonna be a bitch real quick. That absolves me.
Laura Lee
Yes, it does. It fully absolves.
Manny Mua
I'm gonna let you know right now I have moments and I'm like, laura, I need to be a bitch real quick. And Laura's like, yes, say more. What is it? What happened?
Laura Lee
What is it?
Manny Mua
And I have to have sad. And I feel like you're Maybe your ears are open and there's moments when I think that when you have a confined source to tell something like, where it's like, hey, I'm having a moment. I think it all really stems from a little bit of insecurity at times where it's like, I was insecure about something. I'm gonna shit talk something real quick. Once you get it out to your source, I feel at peace.
Laura Lee
And the most important word there was source. So Manny didn't go spread this information throughout. He went to someone, me, who would never, ever tell anyone to spread how he felt. You know what I mean? It's almost like a therapy sesh, a venting sesh. And then the door closes there and we stop there. And I think that's. And I also don't think there's something wrong with that. Like, you have someone, you've built a relationship that's almost like a therapist actually having a therapist, taking the effort to build a friendship.
Manny Mua
Oh, my God. Literally, like, that's one of the fruits of your labor, bro.
Laura Lee
Of your labor. You have to use them.
Manny Mua
Yes. Friendship of nine years.
Laura Lee
Girl, if you can't hear my. We never would have made it.
Manny Mua
No, never made it.
Laura Lee
Never would have, never would have made it. I always preface, Preface my talk or if I'm going to, like, have a little moment, I always say, hey, I'm really jealous, so I need to vent. Like, I'm so aware of myself.
Manny Mua
I was like, I'm being a know. I know it.
Laura Lee
Yes. You'll be like, I'm being a. I'm being a. And I know I'm insecure, Rat. So let me tell you about this.
Manny Mua
Yes.
Laura Lee
You know, we all, we're.
Manny Mua
We're self aware and we literally will tell. We literally. I'm not kidding, you guys. We will be like, I'm gonna be a bitch right now because I'm just feeling a type of way about this one thing. And we literally, like, write it in the book.
Laura Lee
Write it in the book.
Manny Mua
Get it? Cuz we both have been in these situations where it's like, girl, sometimes it's just. You're insecure about something, you just feel like shit. And it's gonna feel good to talk about it. And then you're gonna get it out of your system and you're gonna be like, and I'm a sickening ass diva. And I honestly, I swear to God, us, literally nine times out of ten, we're like, and guess what? We're sickening. And it ends out. And I feel at peace.
Laura Lee
If you're going round and round constantly, just like dogging, talking someone. I think you gotta check your friend or you gotta check yourself. You know, you gotta do some checking in that area. But you know, it's like the one offs that get it out of your system or the hot goss, great, get into it.
Manny Mua
I also feel like you shouldn't share intimate things like that with everyone. I'll be so real. Like, I don't think that it's like something like, like I would never like tell the things I told Laura to, like another friend, if that makes sense. Where it's like, I know you get it because you've been there. Like, and I'll. We'll have a moment. That's not something I'm sharing with five other people. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's to me, that is literally just like you're just being a talking ass. True T. Whereas like, I think that the more people you tell, you're just trying to like lift this weight off of your own chest. And it's like, girl, that's when you have to look in.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
Because then it's like you're just being an absolute like ass.
Laura Lee
Oh yeah.
Manny Mua
You're like going around, you're just seeking that validation constantly. Constantly.
Laura Lee
The problem too is like whenever you do that, it's clearly the situation has bothered you so much that you felt the need to tell 6 or 7 or keep talking about it with every single person. I think really you've got to wrap some of that up.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura Lee
Longer and one is just like a nasty thing to do and you're gonna end up looking crazy in the long run. It's like constantly spewing, spewing, spewing about this person and you know, situation, whatever happens and situations stay on our mind and we stay mad about things. So it's what we talk about.
Manny Mua
Right.
Laura Lee
Like if some girl pissed me off. But that's called self control. And like having that self control to at least have someone to talk to about it but not Spread it throughout 100.
Manny Mua
Yes.
Laura Lee
Pin in it, let it go for a moment. And hey, maybe once you've gotten it out and you're not talking about a situation with 20 different people, get over it. You can get out, you can start getting over it. Whenever you have that self control and discipline to be like, okay, I'm not gonna talk, I'm gonna let it go tonight, we're not gonna talk about it tonight, we're gonna drop it. And then guess what? In a day or two, you're gonna start to feel lighter from the situation. But you keep just running it into the ground and talking about situation. It makes it worse.
Manny Mua
It makes it. Guys, I think it's also really important to have those sources, like I was saying, like a partner. Having someone, you really reach us. A best friend. You don't need to tell your fucking life stories to your Uber drivers. I'm gonna be so fucking for real. You don't need to do all that. Like, you don't need to do the most with people that don't really know you that well. Because then the thing is, a lot of people will perceive things differently than the way you're trying to make it come across. Let's be so real. I know Laura will perceive the way I want to be perceived because it's Laura, but I'm telling a friend that I've known for a year through the industry. Manny's a.
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Manny Mua
And it's like, yeah. So it's kind of like you have to have your sources for that. That thing that. To have your person that can be like, oh, my God, like, I just need to have my moment right now because I'm going to the gigs right the end that you need to have. That's just how it has to be. Just how it has to be.
Laura Lee
Okay, what does she have?
Manny Mua
Okay, so this one's like a little bit of a hot take to me. I Feel like when things are getting wild, things are getting fierce. No one cares about the truth.
Laura Lee
Oh, they don't want to hear that.
Manny Mua
They don't want to hear.
Laura Lee
They don't want to hear that. Don't you bring logic into this.
Manny Mua
They don't want to hear it.
Laura Lee
How do you bring logic into this?
Manny Mua
I know, I know, you guys. I don't think that people want to hear the truth about situations. They want to think, obviously, I've said this before. People want to believe their perception of something is true and not the truth. And it really just solidifies as I get older every year that just people, when they see something logical, they don't want to believe the truth because they don't want their opinion to be changed. They like where their opinion is at. They like the feeling.
Laura Lee
They like the feeling. They like the juicier.
Manny Mua
They like the herd mentality.
Laura Lee
They love, Some might say mentality. They love it. 1. It doesn't require them to think. Yeah, it doesn't.
Manny Mua
Oh, that's the opinion. Great.
Laura Lee
And it's validating because if they agree with the herd, that validates that they are then right. And they feel that serotonin, the herd is.
Manny Mua
Is often wrong, Very wrong a lot of the time.
Laura Lee
So you're all wrong. You know what I mean? And I think this stems from, like, you being on the other end of it 100 and like from the past and everything, like.
Manny Mua
But also in so many situations.
Laura Lee
I mean, it still happens today, constantly. It's like whatever entertainment puts out there.
Manny Mua
You know, the sad truth to you guys that we have to think about too, is that a lot of the times, the first person that gets a story out, that's a story that's believed so true. So then. And that could literally be a complete fucking fabricated lie. Absolutely not true at all. But because the person came out second, that was literally disproved it, people believe the first one because it's easier to believe it because they're like, well, my opinion can't be wrong. I believed it. So people don't want to ever really look intro inward and be introspective of, like, well, why did I believe it?
Laura Lee
So this is a good example of why I ride in the middle on the Blake Lively Justin Binomi. Because it started with Blake. Remember the smear campaign of Blake? And I know this happens a lot.
Manny Mua
With influencers too, but I mean, it happens with so many things. That's why. That's why this experience is what I'm talking about. It happens with everyone.
Laura Lee
It started with Blake Remember, it started. Started, and then it cracked open. And then we had two sides of the story, and then both sides look kind of bad. And then everybody's like, no, but it went back to her being bad, you know? So I'm like, I think the truth always lies somewhere in the middle, but that's where logic and understanding has to come in.
Manny Mua
But people don't. They don't want to do that. And I think that you guys, you can even take it in a small level. Like, let's say a friend of yours and your friend group was very like, girl, they cheated on me. And it's like, oh, my God, it's the worst. And then you find out the person like, I never cheated, and they actually end up cheating the cheater. And you're kind of like, wait, but, like, that's my friend. So then you almost, like, you have to reassess because you believed that thing first. And people don't want to, like, they don't want to admit that they believed that thing that was a lie. They want to be like, no, yeah, I was right. My characters. My character's correct.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
So I think that you have to really, like, kind of think about, like. Like, am I believing something because everyone believes something, or am I believing because I truly believe it?
Laura Lee
I was listening to a podcast on how, like, our brain makeup is. And, like, our brain makeup from a, you know, way before time standpoint, our brains were made with a herd mentality because it kept us alive and it's safer. So it, you know, immediately makes sense. Feels good to be a part of a herd naturally.
Manny Mua
That's why you want to be around people.
Laura Lee
Historic brains. That's why we do a lot of the things that we do and have those herd mentalities because it feels safer.
Manny Mua
To have a shared opinion.
Laura Lee
Want to look like everybody else, to want to follow trends. This is all herd mentality. It's, like, different levels of it, of course, but it's like, our brain does this. Humans have, like, a connection. They want to be around people because of our brain.
Manny Mua
Human nature it is. But people wanted to stay connected in a way.
Laura Lee
Herd mentality online is crazy, but then.
Manny Mua
It can get to, obviously, a whole different level. And it's kind of like, okay, girl, problem.
Laura Lee
We've.
Manny Mua
Hello. We're way past this now. We're not prehistoric.
Laura Lee
We need to be in a tribe to stay alive anymore. We've evolved so much past that. So it's kind of obsolete in a lot of situations where there should be no herd.
Manny Mua
Absolutely. So that's why I feel like a lot of times people don't really want to believe the truth or the version of the truth that's being told. They want to believe that their opinion was right about something.
Laura Lee
Well, Manny just pissed everyone. Everyone hates you. I'm just kidding now. Okay, my next one is something that will p. Piss off a lot of our listeners. So my turn. Hey, dudes are ugly, and I hate them. Do you know what I hate, dude? Okay, I'm gonna get our editor to put a picture of a hey, dude on the screen and hey, dude. Me and my sister have phone calls about hey, dudes.
Manny Mua
No, you don't.
Laura Lee
Yes, we do. We get pissed the off about hey, dudes. It pisses me off. The shoe.
Manny Mua
It's a shoe. I hate it.
Laura Lee
You've seen them, Laura.
Manny Mua
I hate the shoe.
Laura Lee
This is a very. It's like the new crotch. Yep.
Manny Mua
It looks very comfy. I will say it gives it like a comfy moccasin energy.
Laura Lee
I think it's meant to be very comfy.
Manny Mua
It looks like a comfy moccasin, but it's hit, and I don't even know what I literally.
Laura Lee
That's a good example.
Manny Mua
That's a cuter one.
Laura Lee
Manny likes these.
Manny Mua
I don't like them. I never wear them. I don't like them. I would never wear them, but I would say, like, that heathered nude with the white. I was like, that's cuter than the gray.
Laura Lee
They kill me. Me.
Manny Mua
But, like, honestly, they're definitely not the. A cute shoe.
Laura Lee
That's right. It's like a potato sack on the foot.
Manny Mua
Okay, okay. What is a worse shoe than that?
Laura Lee
There's not.
Manny Mua
There's not a worse. I'm trying to think. I'm thinking, like, a worse shoe than that would. Okay.
Laura Lee
Ugly booty that everybody used to wear. The booty.
Manny Mua
Oh, my God.
Laura Lee
With the brown wooden.
Manny Mua
No. Do you want to choose? I actually really just don't like. And I can't get into what it's like. It looks like a ballerina shoe, but it's flat.
Laura Lee
The flats like the. You know what? I have a bear. I love a ballerina flat. And we're going to disagree. I love. I have a ballerina flat. That freaks me out, and I hate them. No, it's the netted ones. I'm going to show you a picture.
Manny Mua
Show me right now.
Laura Lee
It's a trend right now for the netted ballerina flats, and they piss me off.
Manny Mua
I don't know. It looks like a sock to me. Maybe. I don't know why they look weird.
Laura Lee
They. It's something with the net and the toes. Like, I can see your toes.
Manny Mua
Me? Show me right now. I need to see a photo of it. Let me find you guys. Yeah, there's something like. Like, to me, that shoe is worse than the hey dudes.
Laura Lee
I think that. No, you're like.
Manny Mua
No, I like. You're like. I like. But it's funny because I actually feel like the ballerina shoe is, like, really trendy, and a lot of people, like, actually wear the ballerina shoe.
Laura Lee
This is a trend. This is huge right now. A designer's made this netted ballerina flat, and Amazon's duped in. Every brand has duped it, and everybody is wearing these left and right. They're so.
Manny Mua
I'm not kidding you. That's the worst sho I've ever seen.
Laura Lee
It is the ugliest shoe I've ever seen.
Manny Mua
I've never seen a wor.
Laura Lee
Guys can battle.
Manny Mua
You can. Yeah. You can absolutely disagree. That's the ugly I've ever seen.
Laura Lee
I'm gonna show a really expensive pair marketed so you can see a very high quality level. What a foot looks like inside of it.
Manny Mua
I literally hate it. You know what it looks like to me? A water shoe. You go into the ocean.
Laura Lee
It looks like a nasty water shoe, baby.
Manny Mua
You're wearing water shoes out and about, girl.
Laura Lee
They got you again. They got you again.
Manny Mua
No, that's actually. That's. That's even worse. But see, that's worse than the ballerina shoe. But it's like the same thing.
Laura Lee
Worse than a hey dude.
Manny Mua
Yes, it is.
Laura Lee
I don't know if that's worse.
Manny Mua
No, it is. The netting is worse than the hey dude.
Laura Lee
It might be worse.
Manny Mua
Literally. Crazy.
Laura Lee
It's crazy.
Manny Mua
It's crazy. The hey dude's not cute at all. But that is diabolical.
Laura Lee
You're not convincing me.
Manny Mua
No. Oh, you're gonna piss me off.
Laura Lee
Oh, and I'm showing you the luxury. Just see the affordable ones.
Manny Mua
You guys, that it literally, I'm not kidding. You genuinely looks like a water shoe that you go into the ocean with or you put it into the pool so your bottom of your feet don't get rubbed.
Laura Lee
Want to see your toes? Unless it's a jelly sandal, but this net, never. We gotta put it to bed. Y' all are gonna regret.
Manny Mua
I want to see. Or, like, if you're wearing. If I want to see your toe, it better be in, like, a. A chunkla or like, a heel that has, like, the peep something like that.
Laura Lee
Don'T come through the net like that at me.
Manny Mua
It's the net. It's too, like, aggressive.
Laura Lee
I feel the blogger girls are like this right now. Yeah, they're.
Manny Mua
They're activating from the netted ballerina shoe.
Laura Lee
The netted ballerina. They love it. Honey.
Manny Mua
I thought I hated the ballerina shoe.
Laura Lee
They've been.
Manny Mua
Strict. Way worse. I honestly think that's. That's big pharma.
Laura Lee
See, this is.
Manny Mua
But with clothing. But with clothing. It's big pharma. Like, it's like there's a lot like you guys are almost like trying to convince me that the shoe is cute and I'm like, I can't even be lie. What's it called? Like, when they're trying to manipulate you and you're like, no, you're trying to.
Laura Lee
The net it shoe. Also hate barrel jeans. Those can go to hell.
Manny Mua
Barrel jeans.
Laura Lee
I'm gonna look those.
Manny Mua
I don't actually know, like, fashion. Like, like word trends. I've seen the things. Which is funny. I actually see a lot of the stuff. I don't know what the trend is called.
Laura Lee
That's my problem too. I'm not saying you have to because, you know, I.
Manny Mua
No, I just, like, don't.
Laura Lee
So deep in it. Okay. Barrel jeans. This is a great example. So. Yeah. Why they go out like, it looks like your legs are broken outwards. That's a barrel jean. These are not. That's not.
Manny Mua
I hate the jean.
Laura Lee
That's a barrel jean.
Manny Mua
Do people like that?
Laura Lee
They love the bowed out jeans. They want to look like they're bow legged.
Manny Mua
It looks like they want to look bow legged legged. That's the thing, isn't it?
Laura Lee
It looks like their legs are broken.
Manny Mua
Like it's literally purposely going out. It makes no sense.
Laura Lee
No, it makes no.
Manny Mua
Wait, what do they wear, like, with a heel? Like, what is that supposed to.
Laura Lee
I've never seen someone execute them flawlessly. And I'm sure you guys are gonna defend. Don't. Don't you dare defend a barrel jean. You can defend a. Hey, dude. It's comfortable. Blah, blah, blah.
Manny Mua
Do and don't defend the netted ballerina show.
Laura Lee
Don't you dare even come in this chat. Because let me tell you something.
Manny Mua
Do it. I'm blocking. I was like, we're blocking at that point.
Laura Lee
These aren't even all my. Yeah. I'm just very passionate about.
Manny Mua
Yeah, passionate about the barrel.
Laura Lee
Certain things that I hate. And I hate us. Netted ballerina. Hey, dude. And I hate a barrel jean.
Manny Mua
Those are Done. Those are literally sick, though. That's why. They're literally sick and they're twisted. I don't like it. One. What's up? Okay. I feel like this might piss some people off.
Laura Lee
Oh.
Manny Mua
But I do feel like it's light, but I do think it's gonna piss some people off.
Laura Lee
I'm in.
Manny Mua
I feel like Beyonce. I feel like she should have won album of the year for Renaissance.
Laura Lee
Okay.
Manny Mua
And I feel like giving it to her for Cowboy Carter was, like, weird.
Laura Lee
Who won it the year? Taylor?
Manny Mua
I don't know. I can't even remember who won it. I think it might have been Taylor, but I don't know. But I feel like Renaissance was the album that, like, changed, like, kind of the world in a way.
Laura Lee
Absolutely was, like.
Manny Mua
Because even at the Cowboy Carter concert, Renaissance was included because of how much it was, like, really shaped culture.
Laura Lee
It was.
Manny Mua
And I think that her not winning for Renaissance was huge.
Laura Lee
It almost felt like the Grammys had to make it up to her and be like.
Manny Mua
That's how I felt. That's literally. I felt. I'm like. The fact that she didn't went out in the year for Renaissance was diabolical.
Laura Lee
And Cowboy Carter.
Manny Mua
And Cowboy Carter, like, was a great album, don't get me wrong. And I actually really enjoyed the concert. I thought it was fantastic. But I felt, like, culturally, Renaissance, like, really, like, made way. Not the Cowboy Garden, didn't it? But it made waves in a different way.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
Where I'm literally, like. I feel like it was the Grammys being like, we gotta give her something.
Laura Lee
Yeah, we gotta give it.
Manny Mua
We got shredded last year. You guys got shredded, though. Because Renaissance was literally the album.
Laura Lee
Taylor Swift did the biggest tour of all time.
Manny Mua
You're so right. That's why. But I'm like, that's not me. Doesn't mean it's the same album.
Laura Lee
Her and Taylor, the same year.
Manny Mua
That doesn't mean that's the best album.
Laura Lee
So. Yeah. I mean, listen, our opinion. Obviously, neither of us are Swifties.
Manny Mua
No. Right, Right.
Laura Lee
We're never gonna be like, she should have won. You know what?
Manny Mua
I. 100%.
Laura Lee
She does write all of her own songs. And, baby, I respect that's. And her fan base is just, like, feral. Biggest tour 100.
Manny Mua
No. That's why I'm like. I appreciate what she does win it.
Laura Lee
But I feel like if they just would have done it in different years, honey, it would have been. Duh.
Manny Mua
I. I genuinely would have been, like, if they had just been flipped again. Like, Renaissance had one album it would just like made more sense to me, like when it comes to like what it felt like culturally or even like what I just felt like I saw going around. Even though I see Cowboy Carter is. By the way, it's fucking massive. But I felt like Renaissance was even bigger.
Laura Lee
Yeah, that's.
Manny Mua
I was like, I feel like she should have won.
Laura Lee
I agree. Manny. I mean, let me not say I agree. I'm leaving my opinion out of this.
Manny Mua
That's Manny's, that's mine.
Laura Lee
I just sometimes easily throw that in. Next one is a lighter one. Mullets are hot if they're done correctly.
Manny Mua
Agreed.
Laura Lee
Oh, do you like if a mullet is shaped correctly and it's on the.
Manny Mua
Right, it's not one of those really long Joe Dirt ones.
Laura Lee
The Avon, I love him, but I'm not talking Theoban and Theoban does have a good mullet. Do you tell me about Theo Vaughn? You know how he's like so famous now?
Manny Mua
Yes.
Laura Lee
Huge comedian podcast. I, me and Ty frequent the comedy club in LA and years ago we went and we saw the Avon. He was there but he wasn't famous yet. And he did one of the, the funniest stand ups.
Manny Mua
Really?
Laura Lee
Yes.
Manny Mua
Before, like, you didn't even know that. Like you didn't know who it was.
Laura Lee
House was screaming. I had tears in my eyes because his take was on like he was super southern and grew up dirt poor. So how do you think.
Manny Mua
So you're like, you're freaking out.
Laura Lee
I was screaming. But the whole comedy club was dying, you know, And a lot of these comedians I never see again and a lot of them I see blow up. I've seen quite a few who have blown up. So it's just funny. Theobania.
Manny Mua
Look at him now.
Laura Lee
Huge and still funny as he acted.
Manny Mua
I live for him, honestly, I really do.
Laura Lee
Way on that little stand up at the comedy club, it's called the Comedy Store in la that he acts now.
Manny Mua
Really?
Laura Lee
Same demeanor. Very.
Manny Mua
I like it because I feel like he just gives me such like genuine vibes.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
Like just how he is, bro. Like, I feel like he's just how he is and he's like, take it or leave it to me. And that's like what I, what comes across to me when I watch him. I'm like, I feel like he just comes across like, yeah, it is what it is.
Laura Lee
100.
Manny Mua
That's just who I am.
Laura Lee
Him and David Spade are making a movie together.
Manny Mua
Oh. Like, it's gonna be amazing. And David. Yeah, like, come on this one. I Feel is gonna piss Laura off.
Laura Lee
God damn it. This is, this is my one. He gets to bully me. Listen, we're all mad here today.
Manny Mua
Yeah, we're all angry.
Laura Lee
We're all angry.
Manny Mua
So I feel like.
Laura Lee
So I'm gonna get some too. Too.
Manny Mua
I feel like humans don't belong in the sea. I'm Moana. I don't. And the reason I say, cuz I'm like, if we were meant to be in the sea, we'd have gills. So you like. I feel like sea creatures are like sea creatures cuz they're in the sea.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
And we're like on the land like.
Laura Lee
Stand problem is humans ruin. They do everything. They literally freaking do ruin.
Manny Mua
Or they try to like up the ocean or like they have, oh, maybe the ocean's a goner. But then it's like even. I don't know. I just feel like when people are so like they put so much pollution into the water and it's kind of like.
Laura Lee
Well, or like when a shark attacks someone and they're like, gotta kill that shark and hunt it down. I'm like, you were in the.
Manny Mua
You're in the ocean. Literally. That's. And that's kind of what I mean too. Where it's kind of like. Or blame, like blaming a sea creature for doing what a secret she does. That's crazy to me. Like I think I'm like, oh. So I just saw a video actually went viral and it was like this octopus like choking this guy out because he was like, he literally had like a stick and was like poking the out of the octopus in this hole. Octopus jolted out come and started like choking him and he had to like swim to the surface because he couldn't breathe. And he like ripped it off. And I was like, that was all you.
Laura Lee
How about the frat guys like shark I guess had kind of washed up and they. Or secret. I think it was a shark and they decided to dump a bunch of beer in its mouth and it was still alive.
Manny Mua
Or that's crazy.
Laura Lee
Or like this past weekend in Newport beach, the surfers were ran out of a water by like a rabid sea lion. But the people were like, sea lions are not like that. They're not aggressive creatures.
Manny Mua
They don't.
Laura Lee
They don't. So they said the sea lion had a certain algae bacteria that was like bad and it causes them to become aggressive. So they killed the sea lion. But everyone in the comments were like, just tell the servers to take a day off.
Manny Mua
You can't go, why kill the sea Lion.
Laura Lee
Yeah, they killed the sea lion.
Manny Mua
So it's like. It's things like that where I'm literally like, get it.
Laura Lee
I get it. I get it.
Manny Mua
Like, we are not. Like, we are land people. Like, we are built for the land. I do love awkwardness. I'm like, he has gill. But it's like, literally, I was like, I feel like if we were meant to be, we'd have gills. We don't. Stay where you're. Say where our lane is, bro.
Laura Lee
You know, you'll find me in the water.
Manny Mua
I know. When. When the shark comes by me. Add water. Water.
Laura Lee
Oh, absolutely. Okay. My last two are just, like, food ones.
Manny Mua
And I just.
Laura Lee
Everybody eats, so it's good one. I think mustard's better than ketchup. Prefer it, even. Yeah.
Manny Mua
I'm pissed.
Laura Lee
Like. Yep.
Manny Mua
I'm pissed. I was like, none of them got me. That one got me.
Laura Lee
I like mustard better. It's. It's.
Manny Mua
But why do you like it? Is it because it's more sour?
Laura Lee
Sweet? It has a ton of sugar in it.
Manny Mua
Literally. Why? And, you know, sweet tooth.
Laura Lee
I love ketchup.
Manny Mua
Don't get me wrong.
Laura Lee
Like, if I get the choice to have both, I'll always do both. But you prefer mustard over. And the thing is, mustard's not quite one in Europe. What the is going on? You can't get mustard. Anyone? Not yellow mustard.
Manny Mua
Really?
Laura Lee
I think it's an American thing.
Manny Mua
Yellow mustard.
Laura Lee
Why is there no yellow mustard in Europe? Next.
Manny Mua
Do they have, like, Dijon? Other mustard?
Laura Lee
Like, sometimes in London, if you ask, you might be able to get a Dijon. I don't want honey mustard.
Manny Mua
Right. I don't want. No, because it's, like, sweet.
Laura Lee
Yeah, exactly.
Manny Mua
You want the, like, tangy, sour.
Laura Lee
That's why I want it. I like the. That spice, the mustard seed. So I like mustard.
Manny Mua
You like the spice. That's why you like spicy.
Laura Lee
You know, I like tangy. Spicy. Tangy. Next crumble cookie. Their chocolate chip cookie sucks ass. And it pisses me. She's like, I'm an investor. Thanks.
Manny Mua
She's, like, actually living. I hate it.
Laura Lee
But flop one, there's an issue if Your cookie is 1500 calories.
Manny Mua
Cookies me up.
Laura Lee
Go to hell.
Manny Mua
A hundred per. Go to hell for that one cookie?
Laura Lee
Yeah, because you remember they had the big. Yes, you can buy the minis, but it's called a mini cookie, and it's the size of a regular cookie. So I'm a chocolate chip cookie connoisseur.
Manny Mua
Connoisseur. You are.
Laura Lee
You know, I like those Good gooey. It can even be cold. It doesn't have to be warm, and it doesn't have to have sea salt flakes on top. But if there are, that's a bonus. I love.
Manny Mua
She makes a mean.
Laura Lee
Oh, I make a mean chocolate chip cookie. Cookie.
Manny Mua
I will literally. I'm not kidding. You guys have maybe 10 in a row atorus, right? I'm not kidding.
Laura Lee
And isn't it, like, lowkey? Like, the better and you can just, like, pop them?
Manny Mua
Yes.
Laura Lee
I don't want a fat daddy.
Manny Mua
That's what I'm know.
Laura Lee
But even if you do make a fat daddy chocolate chip cookie, why does it suck? Y' all have figured out a way to piss me off.
Manny Mua
Crumble for no reason.
Laura Lee
And make the shittiest chocolate chip cookies.
Manny Mua
It's like, you try to kind of dry, too. Have you noticed that they're, like, dry?
Laura Lee
Imagine they're like, we want to sponsor you. I'm like, no, I wouldn't. That's one sponsorship.
Manny Mua
I'd be like, you can.
Laura Lee
That they. And they do really cool, unique stuff. I will give them, but it's over high. And the chocolate chip cookies pisses me off.
Manny Mua
Well, it's also because I also feel like the cookies in general, like, a lot of them low key, taste the same to me. Like, even if it's like some unique, cool flavor. I'm like, tastes the same as the last week one.
Laura Lee
They did a little tres leches, which that exits out of the cookie room. No longer. We're no longer cooking. It was like, in a little.
Manny Mua
You're literally making a flan.
Laura Lee
It was cracked. I'm gonna get on that. But other than that, everything else has been a flop.
Manny Mua
Yeah, I'm not. I don't get the crumble obsession. I will lie. I do think that there's something fun about the aspect of, like, having new cookies a week. Like, I think there's something fun about that, but I don't love the flavors.
Laura Lee
Fun, because I think the concept is co. Really, really take it there.
Manny Mua
Yeah, Love that.
Laura Lee
But.
Manny Mua
But you got to work on the.
Laura Lee
It's very, very, very expensive, and they're a flop.
Manny Mua
And for what?
Laura Lee
The calories, babe.
Manny Mua
My last one's deep.
Laura Lee
Love it.
Manny Mua
My last one is deeps. I feel like I know this is gonna, like, rebel some favors or whatever, or it can be, like, really inspiring. I feel like if you have shitty family members, you can cut them off. And I think a lot of people, they stay in situations with their family. Stay, like, on with their family. Say, talking to Family because the aspect of them being family. So they're like, oh, but it's my family. At the end of the day, if someone's a bad person or someone that's not doing you good in your life at all, taking away from your life, life, you can write them off even if they're a family member. And I think a lot of people like don't realize that or they don't. They need to hear it that like if you have someone that's in your family that's not serving you, that's just a shitty ass, it's okay to not talk to them, it's okay to cut them off. It's okay. It does not mean that you're a bad person. It just means that you're protecting yourself in your own peace. And you know the things that you're going through. Because like if someone again is taking away from your life, they're not adding.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
You know, so I think that's really important to just remember that like typically someone is a family member. Does not. And they're horrible to you. Doesn't mean that you can't get away from them.
Laura Lee
Right.
Manny Mua
You know, and it's. And it's okay. And it's okay to do so. And you're not a bad person for like not forgiving them for something they did.
Laura Lee
It's interesting how family always uses that their family as a way to get away, an excuse for foul behavior. It always comes back to, well, I'm your family, I'm your cousin, I'm your brother, I'm your sister, I'm your mother.
Manny Mua
It always like you're owed something because of it.
Laura Lee
Like yes. That that tool is always pulled out and used to guilt people to put up with more from family. And I think boundaries are just so important. And I with friends, yes, but God, family especially girl. Cuz you get to pick your friends, you don't get to pick your family. And that's why I say family especially versus friends. You get to pick your friends, not your family. And you're not guilted quite as much for like cutting off a bad friend.
Manny Mua
Whereas no where it's family's like oh.
Laura Lee
My God, close as a mother, a father, a sister, a brother or a close cousin that you eventually have to cut off and set that boundary. The guilt comes in because the family label gets slapped on. But again, remember you didn't get to pick these people in your life. They're just there. So life's short. At the end of the day we don't have A lot of it. And I know sometimes people read that as, oh, so spend all your time with your family. No. If they're messing up your life, messing up your peace and disrupting you, it's literally the opposite. Spend time away from those people. You know what I mean? Mean. So I. I could not agree with that one more.
Manny Mua
Like, it's. It's the truth. I really just feel like it's something that people just need to hear, that it's okay. And I know that guilt can settle in, like, oh, my God. But at the end of the day, you don't control that person. It's just an independent person. Like, yeah, they might be related to you by blood, but that doesn't mean that they're not.
Laura Lee
Yeah. 100.
Manny Mua
Like, at the end of the day, they're an independent person that makes independent decisions that have nothing to do with you at times.
Laura Lee
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
Manny Mua
That's who they are. And, like, you shouldn't have to be the person that gets. Yeah. Trapped in getting the. The freaking. The end of the stick to. Because they're family. You don't have to. You can literally make your own decisions and get out of it if you want to.
Laura Lee
I love that. That's a really great way to close it. And I think, too, what has helped me, because I've dealt with a lot of different unique family situations, or maybe some that aren't that unique, where I've had family members that I had to cut out of my life. And something, weirdly enough, that helped me with it was talking to some of my friends who had a similar situation. Because it makes you feel less guilty. Because I go, I know this person isn't crazy. I love this person to death and respect them. And if they would cut this person off, I would, too. It just makes you feel seen, heard, and less crazy. And so it's, like, interesting. Like, the more people that I'm close with it, I've talked about it, or they've talked to me about their family situations. I'll tell them my stories. And we both are like, wow. Like, we feel so normal.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura Lee
Like you.
Manny Mua
And you really are protecting yourself.
Laura Lee
Yeah, you're protecting yourself, your peace. And again, life's so sure. It sucks, though, whenever you're like a kid or in high school and you can't get away. But it's always good to make a plan, take action and speak to an adult, too. Like getting away from a negative family.
Manny Mua
Member when you can, you know, within reason, of course.
Laura Lee
Yeah, within reason.
Manny Mua
Whenever you can. But just as an overarching idea. Like, if you can monetarily, independently, do.
Laura Lee
It, do it, do it, do it. Is that it for this week's episode?
Manny Mua
Yeah, I was gonna say that's the hot topic.
Laura Lee
That's it for the hot topic. Listen, if we made you mad, we did our job. At least in today's episode. At least in today's episode. Comment your unpopular opinions down below. Cuz last time y' all did that and it got. Got really, really interesting.
Manny Mua
It did.
Laura Lee
And you guys brought up some really good points that we agreed with.
Manny Mua
And the thing is, like, also, like, when it comes to you guys, like, at the end of the day, if we had opinions that pissed you off, it is what it is. But that's what opinions are. People aren't. They don't have to agree with everything. Okay.
Laura Lee
It's literally us practicing what we preach because we sat here and said the herd mentality is like, not a good thing. And it's not truthful. And it's just like, we literally just said that. And so like, us doing unpopular opinion is us going against the herd. And it's good to think outside that.
Manny Mua
Box every now and then and just have a couple thoughts that, like, ruffle those feathers.
Laura Lee
Yeah.
Manny Mua
Internally.
Laura Lee
Question everything. That's what I always say. Question absolutely everything. It should be questions. You should be asking yourself questions. So hopefully we can provoke some conversation and some chatter in the comment box.
Manny Mua
That's what our response is for.
Laura Lee
And we'll catch you in the next one.
Manny Mua
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Episode: Our most SHOCKING HOT takes... Don't hate us
Release Date: May 23, 2025
In this electrifying episode of Fool Coverage, beloved beauty gurus and social media influencers, Manny MUA and Laura Lee, dive deep into their most controversial and unapologetic opinions. True to their podcast’s promise of "100% unique and 1000% glamorous" content, they tackle everything from relationship dynamics to societal norms, ensuring listeners are both entertained and enlightened.
The episode kicks off with Manny recounting a near mishap in their new studio featuring a transparent glass wall:
Manny MUA [01:44]: "The glass is so clear, I almost walk right through it. Almost hit myself."
Laura shares her contrasting lifestyle between high-energy events and serene gardening:
Laura Lee [05:56]: "I'm like, cut to me. One weekend, I'm raging at Coachella, going to bed at 5 am, and then, two weekends later, I'm literally in my garden. Birds chirping and planting the soil of the earth."
These personal stories set the tone for the episode, highlighting their diverse interests and the balance they strive to maintain between their glamorous public lives and personal passions.
Manny opens up about a disappointing brunch date experience, emphasizing the frustration of wasted time when chemistry is absent:
Manny MUA [03:33]: "I thought it was gonna be cool, and everything was great. We just had no real chemistry... It was just kind of like a flop."
Laura and Manny discuss the importance of maintaining independence within relationships to prevent codependency, fostering healthier and more balanced partnerships.
Laura Lee [18:24]: "In healthy relationships, each person goes out on their own too."
Laura challenges the traditional negative perception of gossip, framing it as a vital form of communication and bonding among friends.
Laura Lee [22:25]: "Not all gossip is bad. I think gossiping is a way of communication."
Manny echoes this sentiment, highlighting the role of gossip in fostering sisterly bonds and providing emotional outlets:
Manny MUA [25:24]: "It's bonding. Honestly."
However, they also caution against excessive or harmful gossip that can lead to toxicity within social circles.
The duo delves into the pitfalls of herd mentality and the reluctance to embrace individual truths:
Manny MUA [31:35]: "People want to believe their perception is true and not the truth... They like where their opinion is at."
They advocate for questioning societal norms and encouraging authenticity, even if it means holding unpopular opinions that challenge the status quo.
Manny and Laura passionately critique current fashion trends, sparking lively debates:
"Hey Dudes" Shoes:
Laura Lee [36:25]: "This is a very... It's like the new crotch. Yep."
Manny MUA [37:02]: "I'm not kidding you. That’s the worst shoe I’ve ever seen."
Netted Ballerina Flats:
Laura Lee [37:49]: "It's something with the net and the toes. Like, I can see your toes."
Manny MUA [38:28]: "That it literally, I'm not kidding. You genuinely looks like a water shoe."
Barrel Jeans:
Laura Lee [40:36]: "They love the bowed out jeans. They want to look like they're bow-legged."
Manny MUA [40:49]: "It makes no sense."
Their fiery exchanges underscore their commitment to promoting personal style over fleeting trends, encouraging listeners to embrace what truly resonates with them.
A major highlight of the episode is the heated discussion on the recent Grammy Awards, where Beyoncé’s Renaissance was snubbed in favor of Taylor Swift’s Cowboy Carter:
Manny MUA [41:37]: "I feel like Beyoncé should have won for Renaissance. It changed culture in a different way."
Laura Lee [43:14]: "If they had done it in different years, it would have made more sense to me."
Their debate sheds light on the complexities of award systems and the cultural impact of music, resonating with listeners who favor substance over popular acclaim.
Addressing environmental issues, Manny asserts humanity's misplaced presence in the ocean:
Manny MUA [46:00]: "Humans don't belong in the sea. If we were meant to be, we'd have gills."
They discuss incidents of animal welfare in marine environments, emphasizing the need for respect and preservation of natural habitats.
Laura Lee [47:52]: "They killed the sea lion... it’s not okay."
Laura and Manny conclude with a powerful message about the importance of setting boundaries, especially with toxic family members:
Manny MUA [54:14]: "You don't have to be the person that gets the end of the stick because they're family. You can literally make your own decisions and get out of it if you want to."
Laura Lee [55:33]: "Life's short. If your family is messing up your peace, spend time away from those people."
Their heartfelt conversation encourages listeners to prioritize their well-being over familial obligations, advocating for self-care and emotional health.
Wrapping up, Laura and Manny invite listeners to share their own unpopular opinions, fostering a community of open dialogue and critical thinking.
Laura Lee [56:05]: "If we made you mad, we did our job. Comment your unpopular opinions down below."
Manny MUA [56:17]: "Internally, question everything."
Their commitment to authenticity and challenging the herd mentality leaves listeners inspired to embrace their true selves and engage thoughtfully with the world around them.
Tune in weekly to Fool Coverage with Manny MUA and Laura Lee for more unapologetic discussions, insider stories, and the hottest tea on all the fools around the globe.