Reacting to our unfiltered hate comments (this is hilarious)

Summary

Fool Coverage with Manny MUA & Laura Lee

Episode: Reacting to our unfiltered hate comments (this is hilarious)
Date: September 26, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this playful and surprisingly insightful episode, OG beauty influencers Manny MUA and Laura Lee dive into the world of internet hate by reading and reacting to their meanest (and sometimes funniest) hate comments. The duo, known for their glam and candid personalities, take a look at their online reputations—especially on Reddit—while reflecting on how their approach to criticism has evolved throughout their careers. The episode is a blend of laughter, real talk about self-confidence in the influencer world, and some advice for creators on dealing with negativity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Peaks and Pits: Personal Updates

• Manny’s Microneedling Experience:

  • Manny shares his first microneedling facial experience, describing both the improvement in his pores (“I feel like my pores look smaller,” 03:21) and the rough recovery (“I was actually, like, beet red like, all over my face for, I would say, like, three days,” 04:39).
  • Candid skincare struggles—peeling, shedding, and the challenges of wearing makeup while healing.
  • Quote: "I'm just trying to hold it together by a thread." — Manny (06:31)

• Laura’s TMI Digestive Saga:

  • Laura gets real about her constipation problem—six days without pooping!—and the eventual, triumphant return.
  • Quote: “I had the biggest poop ever… I literally screamed. I was like, Ty! I'm pissing. He's like, YES! Thank goodness.” — Laura (14:34-14:45)
  • The importance of water, fiber, and healthy habits for influencers (and everyone).

• TV Show Recommendations:

  • Laura shouts out "The Task" on HBO (21:01), praising its dual storytelling of law enforcement and criminals for a “deep and amazing” show experience.
  • Discussion on how good storytelling humanizes both sides, with references to "Breaking Bad" and "Sons of Anarchy" (22:16-23:57).

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2. Diving Into the Hate Comments

The heart of the episode is a hilarious and therapeutic journey through Reddit hate comments—though finding real hate proves to be harder than expected.

The Shift in Online Reception

• Both hosts note that most feedback now is positive—growth that happened as they and their audiences matured:
  • “We’re in the golden years of our career… we do reap the rewards of being OGs… but we don’t receive all the backlash.” — Laura (26:07)
  • “It just feels nice.” — Manny (26:30)

Funniest & Most Notable Hate Comments

• “Loud, obnoxious, everyone’s talking over each other.”

  • Manny: “Did she stutter? Did she lie?” (27:10)
  • They own the criticism of their chaotic chemistry, attributing it to genuine excitement and comfort with one another and guests like Jaclyn Hill (28:08).

• “Those two made Jaclyn Hill look like Jaclyn Chill.”

  • Manny: “When I tell you, I scream…” (29:27)
  • They laugh about their famously energetic presence, insisting Jaclyn is just as manic and that’s why they click (30:09).

• Surprisingly Positive Reddit:

  • Laura: “Since when do you write positive, positive notes on Reddit?” (31:24), shocked by the current supportive tone she found.

Critiques on Voice and Persona

• Laura’s Distinct Voice:

  • Reddit: “I just can’t listen to her voice for very long.” (34:38)
  • Laura: “I’ve let people make me hate it forever and I just don’t really do that anymore.” (35:05)

• Manny “Not Smart” Insult:

  • “Manny is just not smart. Sorry I said it.” (37:34)
  • Manny: “My voice makes me sound like I’m not smart… but at the end of the day, I am schooled, honey.” (37:41)
  • Discussion about projection and how haters’ comments often reflect their own insecurities (38:15).

• Used Car Salesman Energy:

  • “Laura and Manny give me used car salesman energy. They’re sleazy.” (39:39)
  • The pair cackle, attributing it to people not understanding podcast advertising. Manny: “That’s unique. That’s a good one.” (40:46)

• Shrek Comparisons:

  • Someone posts a meme, comparing Manny to the ugly stepsister from Shrek (41:09).
  • Manny: “I have been tagged in that… and the female dragon too!” (41:55)

Standard Hater Generalities

• “Forgot about her and Manny, both of them are awful people. I do not respect.” (45:03)
  • Manny: “100 people don’t like us.” (45:10)
  • Laura: “I want to line all hundred up, plus the one that left a comment and go—me too, me too! And then that’s it.” (45:31)

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3. Deeper Conversations Sparked by Hate

Handling Negativity & Self-confidence

• Both hosts talk about getting comfortable with who they are, no longer feeling responsible to prove themselves.
  • “I’m not here to advocate, to beg you to do it. Like, I’ve let that go. That is what it is.” — Laura (55:04)
  • “There comes a time where you get confident in knowing who you are and knowing that you’re a good person.” — Laura (55:43)
  • “At the end of the day, you cannot control how people perceive you.” — Manny (56:21)

Industry Insight:

• Manny discusses calling out 13 Lune for unpaid invoices—defends using his platform after exhausting private measures.

  • “What I have that a lot of people don’t have is an audience and a reach…and I think that it’s important when you do have those things to be able to utilize them.” — Manny (52:32)
  • “It was worth me talking about it because I don’t want people to potentially go into business with a company like that…” — Manny (53:42)

• Laura addresses why she closed her beauty brand—agrees with an online theory, shares her evolution away from makeup into skincare/hair (49:41-51:01).

  • “As time changes, things… you learn, you grow.” — Laura (51:01)

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4. Recurring Humor and Notable Moments

• Constant Self-Deprecation:

  • “I’m just trying to hold it together by a thread.” — Manny (06:31)

• Tagging Doppelgängers:

  • “Never tag me.” — Laura, on people tagging supposed lookalikes (42:15)

• Detractors & Perception:

  • “At the end of the day, people don’t always stay problematic… you should watch where a person is now.” — Manny (55:16)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:21 — Manny describes microneedling experience
• 10:26 — Laura’s bowel journey (“I hadn’t pooped in six days…”)
• 21:01 — Laura raves about HBO’s The Task
• 26:07 — The golden years of influencer life
• 27:10 — “Did she stutter? Did she lie?” on criticism about their podcast style
• 29:27 — “Those two made Jaclyn Hill look like Jaclyn Chill.”
• 31:24 — Surprised by positive Reddit comments
• 34:38 — Laura’s “annoying” voice and self-acceptance
• 37:34 — “Manny is just not smart” and projecting insecurities
• 39:39 — Accused of “used car salesman energy”
• 41:09 — The “ugly stepsister from Shrek” meme
• 45:03 — The ‘100 people don’t like us’ comment
• 52:32 — Manny’s explanation for publicly calling out 13 Lune
• 55:04 — Laura on acceptance and boundaries with haters

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Memorable Quotes

• Manny: “Did she stutter? Did she lie?” (27:10)
• Laura: “When you’re peeling, you just gotta go full natural.” (08:40)
• Manny: “I’m just trying to hold it together by a thread.” (06:31)
• Laura: “Since when do you write positive, positive notes on Reddit?” (31:24)
• Manny: “At the end of the day, you cannot control how people perceive you.” (56:21)
• Laura: “There comes a time where you get confident in knowing who you are and knowing you’re a good person.” (55:43)

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Episode Flow and Tone

• Energy: Playful, loud, very “besties hanging out,” but also grounded in transparency.
• Insightful: The hosts genuinely reflect on criticism, their growth, and the psychological aspects of being public figures.
• Supportive: Encouragement for any creators or listeners struggling with self-doubt or criticism.
• Candid: Open discussion about deeply personal struggles (skin, digestion, confidence).
• Self-aware: The hosts acknowledge flaws, poke fun at themselves, and reject the need to please everyone.

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Summary

This episode is a candid, humorous, and refreshingly honest look at what it feels like to live online as a longtime beauty influencer, with Manny and Laura facing their “haters” head-on and coming away with more laughs than scars. They highlight how time, maturity, and genuine self-acceptance change the experience of online criticism—for the better. The message: even internet “fools” can have the last laugh.

Transcript

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[Manny MUA]

You cracked, girl. You cracked.

[Laura Lee]

Since when do people write positive notes on Reddit? Maybe it's just not smart, period.

[Manny MUA]

Oh, my God. 100 people don't like us. Those two make Jaclyn Hill look like Jaclyn. Chill.

[Laura Lee]

I actually think you look like the tea girl on Shrek. On. Welcome to your favorite podcast. It's full coverage with your hosts, Laura.

[Manny MUA]

Lee and Mani Muay.

[Laura Lee]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Manny MUA]

Hi, guys. We're back at our home studio.

[Laura Lee]

You love the home studio. We love the home studio too. We do too.

[Manny MUA]

It's just so lovely and so nice and so chill. I love being in my second home. This is my home away from home right here.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny MUA]

It just feels good.

[Laura Lee]

Today we're gonna be reviewing some hate comments.

[Manny MUA]

Reviewing some hate comments.

[Laura Lee]

That's s. And I always, like, tell other creators and people starting out, like, don't read your hate comments. Don't dive into it. So doing this was super backtracking on everything I've built myself. I just backtracked for you guys so we can read off what assholes have to say about ours. But first, peaks and pits.

[Manny MUA]

Absolutely peaks. And you Know what? I actually have a combined peak and pit because the other day I would say like five days ago. Thursday. It's four days ago. That's four days ago.

[Laura Lee]

Something like that.

[Manny MUA]

Four days ago I actually got a little micro needling facial done and it was my first time ever trying micro needling. And I was like, okay, I just want to like try it and see what it's like.

[Laura Lee]

I feel like your pores look smaller.

[Manny MUA]

They do, right?

[Laura Lee]

They literally look.

[Manny MUA]

They look smaller. And I'm kind of gagged cuz she was saying like your pores are going to look smaller. You want to do this like multiple times a year. It's not something that like stays like your pores are not going to stay looking smaller, Anything like that. Smaller. But she just said like in general, like if you do it over time, they could get to like a smaller place. But what was so that's like the part that's my, my peak is the fact that like it actually I feel.

[Laura Lee]

Like through here and like you can tell. Looks so smooth.

[Manny MUA]

Like, it looks like more like, like poor.

[Laura Lee]

Less poor. Less poor.

[Manny MUA]

Because I have a lot of like, I have huge pores. That's always been like. My real issue is like having large pores because I have oily skin. So I've always had like a larger pores and there's nothing really you can do about it. You can just make them look a little bit smaller.

[Laura Lee]

There's a spider.

[Manny MUA]

No, there's not. Like in the bike.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Oh, you got to get this spider out of my mic. It's right here. It has a web and everything. It was living in the mic.

[Manny MUA]

It's literally living inside.

[Laura Lee]

You got to kill it.

[Manny MUA]

Look at it.

[Laura Lee]

It has to die. I'm done saving spiders. Yeah, that's got to go. Don't let it run. Okay, we can continue.

[Manny MUA]

Laura has arachnophobia now, so you have to be careful.

[Laura Lee]

I'm done saving spiders. I told you that I'm done. I have saved them. They bit me. I'm done. I'm not risking it anymore. Anyway, sorry. Microneedling.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah, so, so, so I. So I got it and I do feel like my pores look a little smaller, which is like you can't really make your pores smaller with essentially anything other than like doing lasers and treatments. Yeah, retinols. And like even retinols, like, it'll like exfoliate in like slightly shallow, but it'll never like really be much smaller in comparison if you have like really large pores. You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, okay, you have to go, like, a little bit fiercer with stuff to, like, try to, like, treat it. So that's what I'm, like, trying to do and seeing if I can make a difference in them. But the part that's my pit is that, like, I was actually, like, beet red like, all over my face for, I would say, like, three days. I literally sent Laura a photo, and I was like, look at my fucking face right now.

[Laura Lee]

Like, you got sunburned?

[Manny MUA]

Like, I got, like, the worst burnt ever. Like, it was literally red everywhere. Like, everywhere that I got. It was red, red, red. And I, like, almost like. Like, I couldn't even go on camera red. Like, it was unseeable.

[Laura Lee]

Did you. Did you just stay home?

[Manny MUA]

I did.

[Laura Lee]

I just stayed home for, like, two or three days.

[Manny MUA]

For three days, I just stayed home. I didn't, like, really leave my house.

[Laura Lee]

Do you go to the gym?

[Manny MUA]

I didn't go to the gym. I literally did nothing. Like, yesterday was my first day back at the gym.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, really?

[Manny MUA]

Because. And the thing is, like, I was, like, very red, but I was like, okay, I feel like this redness is, like, manageable where I'm not looking crazy, right? But then yesterday, I started shedding. Oh, so now. I'm not kidding you. Like, my entire face right now is being held together by, like, glue and duct tape. I'm not kidding. I literally exfoliated this morning. I was fully last night exfoliated this morning, trying to get off. And I texted her. I was like, yo, is this normal to, like, be, like, shedding your skin after a treatment? She's like, it's very normal because the first layer dies. So, like, that first layer is basically just completely like, destroyed. Just, like, if you get a really bad.

[Laura Lee]

It's like a laser.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah, it's like, laser. So she's like, it'll, like, completely destroy it. And so, like, the new skin's coming through, which is why you're getting those.

[Laura Lee]

Tiny pores and the peeling.

[Manny MUA]

So I. I'm peeling right now. So right now.

[Laura Lee]

Do you think it was worth it?

[Manny MUA]

I do. I mean. I mean, I don't. Like. I don't. I have just. It's been only four days, so I'm chic to see what it looks like.

[Laura Lee]

In, like, two weeks will come. Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah. Because right now, I'm still in that phase where it's like, okay, I'm, like, really in the shedding phase. Like, even, like, right here under my eyes, like, on my forehead. Everywhere. Where I'm, like, super, super hydrating a lot to make it not look so crazy.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

Because it's so crazy right now underneath this. I know you guys probably can't tell from there, or they're like, we can tell.

[Laura Lee]

No, you can't.

[Manny MUA]

You can't tell at all.

[Laura Lee]

Like, you literally can't tell.

[Manny MUA]

I did a lot. I did, like, a lot this morning to, like, get it to, like, a spot, but it made me feel like death becomes her.

[Laura Lee]

Do you know what I mean? That's you, like, gluing the skin back on, trying to get a little powder, like this foundation. Oh, yeah.

[Manny MUA]

Spray paint. Like, that's literally me right now, where I'm like, you guys, I'm just trying to hold it together by a thread. I'm holding together by a thread.

[Laura Lee]

You know what's so funny about Manny saying that is we went to our friend's birthday dinner, and at this time, okay, at this time, I still deal with it some, but I had some melasma on my upper lip, and my esthetician was like, you know, you can just, like, peel it off, girl. I can give you some cream. Like, we can peel that skin off and. Good as new. And I'm like, great, give it to me immediately. So I started using out, like, two or three days in, and my skin was literally shedding dry, but it was just my upper lip, so I look crazy. And so I would take, like, a razor, like the Tweezerman razor, and try to shave the dead skin off to, you know, get it all off so I could put makeup on top, because the skin wasn't even raw. It was just like a thin, thin layer of skin killing. So we had a birthday dinner for one of our friends, and I was like, oh, my God. Like, I'm in a pilling phase right now. And I was like, I gotta do a full face. Cause we're going out for a birthday dinner.

[Manny MUA]

Yes. Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Like, this is not a wispy laugh.

[Manny MUA]

No, it's like, you're going to be full glam.

[Laura Lee]

You're going to be full glam for, like, a downtown Disney. A downtown dinner. Disney dinner. So I was like, okay, let me. Let me try to glue myself back together. You know? Let me glue it.

[Manny MUA]

Fucking Humpty Dumpty over here.

[Laura Lee]

And Athena was sitting next to me. I think you might have been sitting on the other side of me.

[Manny MUA]

I would love to.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, you were, weren't you? And my upper lip cracked in the dinner. And, like, literally, like a baby doll with a broken like, piece in its.

[Manny MUA]

Head that, like, Laura was missing a whole chunk of her foundation skin.

[Laura Lee]

It was like.

[Manny MUA]

It was literally a puzzle piece. A puzzle piece.

[Laura Lee]

Like, a puzzle piece fell off of my upper lip. And I think that was like, on.

[Manny MUA]

The opposite side of me. Had no idea happened.

[Laura Lee]

Like, what is going on, Mom? Maybe and more turns.

[Manny MUA]

I go, oh, you cracked, girl.

[Laura Lee]

You cracked because, like, I had so much makeup on. The contrast of that missing piece of skin was like a hole got punched. A jigsaw puzzle punched out. And I learned my lesson. Okay.

[Manny MUA]

Okay.

[Laura Lee]

When you're peeling, you just gotta. You gotta lean into it. You gotta go full natural.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Because I try to glue myself back together. Was a disaster.

[Manny MUA]

It was. No, it's. And the thing is, like, I. Because of the. How this is, I'm like, I can't use that much powder because if the same thing would happen, I'll crack off. So I've just a lot of, like, I did some powder in the ties on, but then I did a lot of, like, setting sprays and like, just trying to keep things hydrated. Looking like, girl, some highlighter.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny MUA]

Look, just distract. I did a pink distract you.

[Laura Lee]

I see that pink iridescent blush. I see that iridescent blush.

[Manny MUA]

I'm like, look at the fucking pink blush I'm wearing right now, like, to distract you guys because of the fact that I'm cracked. But no, like, the cracking is the worst of the skin. It is when it's slothing off.

[Laura Lee]

What do you do when you have to wear makeup, though? Like, if I'm peeling and I'm just chilling with no makeup on. Don't care and can't really tell as much, honestly. Love peeling skin because it's like that new, fresh layer of untouched. There's no discoloration. You know, it's all good stuff. But when you got to involve makeup, that's when it takes a turn.

[Manny MUA]

It's deadly.

[Laura Lee]

Takes a.

[Manny MUA]

It gets really deadly. Especially when I. When I like, set my under eyes, because that. I have to set a little bit of my under eyes. Like, this is increase. And so when I said it and like, right here underneath, there's like, it's like folded over skin. You know, it's like that. When it's like the peeling skin, you're just like, yeah, well, I look crazy. And we're just gonna deal with that.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

So that's where I'm at right now. But I'm excited. I'm excited to see, like, what the results will look like in like, a few Weeks to see, like, if my pores look a little smaller. We'll see. I feel like they already look a slightly smaller. So we'll see how the micro needing is. If you guys have ever got microneedling, let me know if you guys like it. Do you guys enjoy it? Is it something that's helped your pores in the future? Because it's something like, I like it. I want to keep going back and keep getting because it's my first time trying it. So I'm intrigued.

[Laura Lee]

Love it. Well, my. I'll start with my pit. I haven't. I hadn't pooped in six days last week. This week, I guess it merged into this week. And oh, by the way, this is tmi.

[Manny MUA]

By the way, we already said it. But.

[Laura Lee]

But I'm acknowledging that it's tmi. I don't care. You guys know so much about me. Not everything, but you do know so much about me. So why not know about my bout? Why not know. Why not know that we all poop? As much as we may lie, we all poop. So I was like, damn, I haven't pooped it like in two days. So I was like, so it came.

[Manny MUA]

To your mind two days in?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

Okay. Okay.

[Laura Lee]

Because like, I have never had a regular poop, but my healthier diet, adding more fiber in my diet, exercising, all these things have created a much regular pooping system for me. Drinking tons of water has been the number one, by the way. All these things that I've done to take care of myself has really helped situation. So I really haven't dealt with digestive problems. Also take probiotics. AG1. Like, I do a lot to poop people a lot. Can't confirm, Right. So I was like, damn, I haven't pooped in two days. I'm like, whatever. Like that. That happens to me sometimes. Like, that happens. And then three days went by and I was like, oh. And then four days and I was like, oh. So then I started doubling up on fiber and all I was doing is farting, not pimping. So I was like, oh, my God. I was like, oh, my God. Five days went by. I was like, all right.

[Manny MUA]

Five days in no is diabolical.

[Laura Lee]

And that's what Ty was saying. He's like, that's so horrible. That's so crazy. You must be in so much pain. No, my. I've had poop problems my whole life. I feel completely normal. I feel great. I ran five miles off not pooping in five days.

[Manny MUA]

And you're fine.

[Laura Lee]

Great. Better than ever. Like, it does.

[Manny MUA]

As if it doesn't even hit you.

[Laura Lee]

No, not at all.

[Manny MUA]

And so that upper intestine is full.

[Laura Lee]

Tyler said I need to do a colonoscopy.

[Manny MUA]

A. A flush out.

[Laura Lee]

A flush out.

[Manny MUA]

What are they called?

[Laura Lee]

What do they call a douche? Not a douche.

[Manny MUA]

When it goes in, it, like, flushes you out.

[Laura Lee]

I don't think I can do that.

[Manny MUA]

No. Let me tell you something.

[Laura Lee]

I know you'd be cleaning that booty hole out.

[Manny MUA]

I know. I shit every day. Every single day. I am good. I know that bowel up there is.

[Laura Lee]

It's.

[Manny MUA]

I know mine is also probably everyone's is when it's like, when you're going into some degree.

[Laura Lee]

Also, we evolved as humans to eat all the foods that we're not even supposed to be putting in our body. We made up like candy.

[Manny MUA]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

And chemicals. Like. Like, we it up. Everybody's. To some degree. Okay, so today is day six. So when I woke up this morning, I was like, I better poopy today. I was like, eventually, we're gonna hit a wall. It has to come.

[Manny MUA]

Oh, and the wall is the intestines.

[Laura Lee]

I told Ty this morning I a laxative.

[Manny MUA]

Oh, good idea.

[Laura Lee]

This morning I said, I do not poop today, tonight, or this afternoon, I'm taking a lax.

[Manny MUA]

Like, it's going to happen either six.

[Laura Lee]

Days in or I'm forcing it.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So I drank sometimes caffeine sometimes. We can't all be that lucky. We can't all be that after my morning. Alani, you're glued. He has a seat bel. He has a seat belt on the toilet to lock it.

[Manny MUA]

I think I'm white chick. If I just crack the can of.

[Laura Lee]

My Lonnie, it's a wrap for me. Your body's like, yeah.

[Manny MUA]

Oh. Oh. Like, literally, I was two minutes late today because I was taking a shit.

[Laura Lee]

Wow.

[Manny MUA]

Dead ass.

[Laura Lee]

Wow. Well, I cracked a Dr. Pepper this morning. I did a ag one first. On an empty stomach. That's tons of probiotics in it, which I've been doing that for days straight. But I did that this morning.

[Manny MUA]

Well, on empty is, like, good too.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Because you absorb it more the fastest. So a ate a little breakfast. I was like, I shouldn't have a Dr. Pepper because I haven't pooped. It should be only water diet only. But I was like, I'm gonna do this.

[Manny MUA]

The caffeine.

[Laura Lee]

Because the caffeine and it hit me.

[Manny MUA]

Activated morning.

[Laura Lee]

I had the biggest poop ever.

[Manny MUA]

Laura, it honestly. Praise be. I know that Was like this inside.

[Laura Lee]

It was. Oh. I was like, wow.

[Manny MUA]

You, like, clapped for me.

[Laura Lee]

I literally screamed. I was like, tell her I'm pissing. He's like, yes, yes. Thank goodness. Yes. Trust me. I wish I could poop, like, three times a day. I wish.

[Manny MUA]

Totally, Totally.

[Laura Lee]

I've always had these issues. Have to do so much. I have to work for it, and I do. And so I don't know why I got backed up because nothing changed in my.

[Manny MUA]

I was gonna say. And I had actually, when she told me that, I was literally like, girl, you literally, like, you're running, you're still working out, you're still eating good. All the things I'm doing. The AG one, like, you're still doing all the things to, like, activated.

[Laura Lee]

And my sister worked for a gastro for years and years.

[Manny MUA]

Like, are you guys all irregular or regular?

[Laura Lee]

All irregular.

[Manny MUA]

Oh, so just, like, maybe genetically just.

[Laura Lee]

I know, but I ask her, you know, what does the doctor tell people to do when they're just like, I'm not pooping? Drink water.

[Manny MUA]

That's it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. And they're like, you can put some of that fiber that I use. Because that's what her doctor recommended. But they're like, you can do a little fiber, but drink more water. You're going to poop eventually. If you're drinking more than eight glasses a day, you will poop eventually.

[Manny MUA]

God, it's just going to happen.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

You know what's funny? My dad, he, like, is the worst water drinker, I swear. I'm always like, dad, you have to drink more water. And I always, like, tell him. He's the type that would, like, wants to drink a coke instead of a water. He's like, I just don't like the taste of it. And I'm like, no, you literally. I'm like, dad, do it.

[Laura Lee]

I'm as big as fan.

[Manny MUA]

Every time after he eats, he shits immediately. It's almost.

[Laura Lee]

Do you see how it's not fair. That is not fair.

[Manny MUA]

He doesn't even drink a lot of water. He literally will, like, three times a day after he eats. I'm not kidding. And I'm literally like, even I can't do that. That even I can't. Like, let's say we go to dinner the second we get home, he's like, I have to go.

[Laura Lee]

So I had restroom issues my whole life. Digestive issues, but I didn't drink a lot of water. I grew up in the south and my parents drink sweet tea as their water. And then you would have A soda. And like, that was just like the consistent drinking and like the education in my family. I'm not speaking for everyone in the South. I'm speaking for my family. Wasn't there on how much the health and like, you need to be drinking water. You need to be drinking this much. And I moved to California. Actually, it was before. I think it was a little bit before I moved to California. Maybe I was moved to California, I don't know. But I got in on this water game and it changed my life. Like every. My skin, my lips.

[Manny MUA]

Yep.

[Laura Lee]

Everything. My digestion, I felt better. I was like, oh, my God. I was like, water's the magic potion. Why didn't no one tell me this? I would have been drinking water. It was just like no one told me. So I didn't know that the lack of water was causing all these problems for me.

[Manny MUA]

So there's like a lot of water in sweet tea, but it's filled with.

[Laura Lee]

I guess it. I guess it's like, listen.

[Manny MUA]

So I was like, if there's water in that.

[Laura Lee]

The toxic mentality that got me to where I was at.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Was the thinking that, oh, there's water in it in these things. Yeah, there's water. So I think that's like, not how it works.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

I don't think that's.

[Manny MUA]

That's. I was literally just thinking, like, in general, I'm like, okay, well if, like, if it's mostly water but has sugar in it, does it count? But it probably doesn't because you're drinking something bad along with it. So it's like the catalyst.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

Is not good.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

It's like not a good source. You know what I'm saying? Of hydration, if you will.

[Laura Lee]

Listen. My God, just drink water, people. I'm sick of it. Drink some water.

[Manny MUA]

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[Manny MUA]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Manny MUA]

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[Manny MUA]

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[Laura Lee]

And then my peak. So that was my pick. Cause I poop. But, you know, as we started watching a new TV show on HBO called the Task, and there's only two episodes out, and it is fantastic.

[Manny MUA]

And two episodes it is fan really.

[Laura Lee]

It has Mark Ruffalo as the main character.

[Manny MUA]

Love.

[Laura Lee]

But it is a story of an FBI agent. Who's Mark Ruffalo? Ruffalo in it. And it follows his story. And he's got a lot of dark going on in his life and his family. And he's tired, he's ready to be retired. He's not even doing cases anymore. And then it follows the story of the criminal just as deeply. Whereas stories. TV shows normally don't do that. You know the bad guys. Or either it's all about the bad guys and you don't know a lot about the cops who are trying to get them, or it's all about the cop story, like true detective, but you don't know anything about the bad guys. This story is equally following both. So you're kind of following in love with both characters. But the FBI agent is sniffing and onto the cr. It's just crazy. It's a crazy way they filmed this. And it's so interesting. And it's really, really good stuff. So if you guys want a new TV show that's like, pretty deep, really great storytelling, amazing acting. The Task on hbo, it's about drug crime, robbery, drug ring versus the FBI agent.

[Manny MUA]

And this. What I always like about shows is when they do show, like, the reason why, let's say someone that was doing the bad thing got into doing the bad thing. Because then it shows a little bit like that even people in real life, if they're doing something bad, they're not always trying to do something bad because they, you know, want to. It's because they have to or like, something along those lines. So it's always gives you a little bit of like, I don't know, like, more understanding. Even though it's like, don't commit crime. But like, it gives you a little bit of empathy to be like, okay, well, that's probably why they were doing the bad thing. You know what I'm saying? Let's say someone's stealing food. Not an excuse. Let's say someone's stealing food, but they're completely starving.

[Laura Lee]

Stealing food is a bad thing.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah, I don't even see that as a bad thing.

[Laura Lee]

Like, if you're stealing tampons and food and things. I don't think that's a bad thing. Stealing lip liner and mascara. You're fucked up. Cause then it's like you're fucked up.

[Manny MUA]

You don't need that thing be so for real. Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

You know, stealing people's watches in person, it crazy.

[Manny MUA]

But that's something. That's what I'm saying. Like. Like you're stealing food or you don't.

[Laura Lee]

Also, by the way, his story sucks. But you don't feel bad for him for what he's doing. You definitely are not like a. He had a bad life. It's literally like what he is doing is like pretty.

[Manny MUA]

He's deep.

[Laura Lee]

It's deep. It's bad, bad, bad, bad. So here.

[Manny MUA]

So it's not the type that they're trying to make you empathize with it, I see.

[Laura Lee]

No, they're trying. Yeah. But you just watch him on screen from you know, the beginning to what he's doing. There's only two episodes but. So you're kind of like in it with know how like watching Sons of Anarchy. Nothing they do is justified or good.

[Manny MUA]

But you love their side.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. You don't want the cops to get them like you want them, but they're bad. So that's kind of how this is.

[Manny MUA]

Okay, that makes sense.

[Laura Lee]

That makes you know what I mean?

[Manny MUA]

But you root for them.

[Laura Lee]

You root for them. You root for the bad guys.

[Manny MUA]

Walter White. You're like make those drugs.

[Laura Lee]

That is such a great. Just cuz he has cancer and doesn't have money does not give him the right to be a meth king. It doesn't create empathy for what he's doing. But you root for him. So that's kind of how this show is. So watch the task. It's great. Also still watching Chief of War on Amazon finale comes out this week. So good.

[Manny MUA]

Let's get into the gigs. Honey.

[Laura Lee]

I think we should start with some of the commentary off cause we recently just released an episode of podcast with Jaclyn Hill. If you guys didn't see it, check it out. It's such a funny episode. We chat gbt her on OG beauty guru like drama the past stuff and see if she knows the answer. So it was a good episode. But of course. Was it Reddit?

[Manny MUA]

Reddit.

[Laura Lee]

There's people like comments, you know, anything we do because we're so relevant and.

[Manny MUA]

Just iconic and crazy.

[Laura Lee]

They had said something so we wanted to read their opinions on our episode. Which by the way I'm not, I'm just have to preface because you know I love self development. I'm not gonna sit here and read these nasty comments without acknowledging the episode was filled with nothing but love. Every comment on every social post was not. But love. The episode was all love. It was just so fantastic.

[Manny MUA]

It was. And also, can I also just say, even trying to do this video was hard because we get so much positive feedback.

[Laura Lee]

I literally said many. I don't get hate. So I go, me neither. Really don't like. Yeah, you'd have to hunt for it just because someone says something weird to you in a dm. I don't get like. I get like that. I don't get, like, direct. Just mean hate anymore.

[Manny MUA]

Same.

[Laura Lee]

So I was like, I don't know what we're going to do for this video. So we had the idea to look up our Reddit and I still really couldn't find girl.

[Manny MUA]

And even then, it was like pulling at pulling strings, which, honestly is, like, really great.

[Laura Lee]

What a great.

[Manny MUA]

And how lovely for us that we've been able to get to a spot and like, our careers in our lives and that people can like, really kind of relate and understand, like, where we're coming from. It doesn't feel so, like, volatile.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

I think that, you know, as we obviously get older too, we just come into our own more and more and more and more.

[Laura Lee]

Your audience matures.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

So, you know, your audience grows up a little. The people that follow you are growing up. You're growing up, up yourself. So everything changes a bit. And like, we're always say we're in the golden years of our career because it's like, we do reap the rewards of being OGs and, you know, putting all that time and work in, but we don't receive all the backlash.

[Manny MUA]

My God, it feels nice.

[Laura Lee]

It's like, damn, we're really in the golden years.

[Manny MUA]

Okay, so I have one that's just. It just cracked me up because it reminded me, like, obviously, the episode that we just stay with Jacqueline. So this is like a full coverage podcast. It was discussing the episode we actually did that was first with Jacqueline. Like, I think a year ago, it was the first time we ever even.

[Laura Lee]

Did a video like Jaclyn Hill Breakdown. Like, Update.

[Manny MUA]

Yes, Update, where we did it with her last year. So this one was just funny because I was like, it just kind of brought back the Jaclyn episode. And she goes, I just tried to watch full coverage, the episode with Jacqueline. First time trying to listen to them, and it's so intolerable. Loud, obnoxious. Everyone's talking over each other. And Manny just talks to too fast.

[Laura Lee]

Correct.

[Manny MUA]

I was like, correct. Yeah, yeah. It is the whole thing. I just like, did she stutter? Like, did she lie?

[Laura Lee]

I'm like, did she lie period? She said, did I lie?

[Manny MUA]

No, she didn't lie. And I just. So funny. Cuz I feel like, yes.

[Laura Lee]

Why?

[Manny MUA]

Yes. Especially like, I feel like in the beginning too. Like. Like it would be just in general of our podcast. Like, we would always talk of each other constantly. Because that's just like how we talk in general. And like, you get to a spot where, like, you start to figure out a cadence of like, you learn how.

[Laura Lee]

To interview, you learn how to podcast. But that takes time. And of course, we had to release episodes where we didn't know and we had to learn that. So it took time. And you're going to take your beatings for it 100%.

[Manny MUA]

And it's still. And it still happens. Like, I also have moments where I get so excited about something where I will talk, talk, or like, you know, it'll like, jumble. But at the end of the day, it's like, I think that just comes out of excitement. And it's not.

[Laura Lee]

Like, that's what I'm saying. When we're with Jacqueline filming, there's no.

[Manny MUA]

It's a key.

[Laura Lee]

There's no world we're gonna be able to be like, your turn to speak. Yeah. I'm like, this is about to explode. I guess it's something to say.

[Manny MUA]

Yes, no, and I'm the same way. And like, I try. And I still try to be, like, conscious of. Okay. Like, they're talking right now. So I'm trying not to talk right now in this exact moment. But then I'm like, trying to remember this one point for when I do talk. Like, it's like, like you have to actively think about that when you're doing podcasting, interviewing. And I think that after we've been doing this, we've been doing this for four years now, that it's like, we've gotten better at it. But it's something you so constantly have to think about. Yep, girly. And let me tell you something. When we have a guest, that's a true key.

[Laura Lee]

It's hard. It's so hard to shut up. It's so, so hard to shut up. But this is also the truth. You guys fucking love it 100%. Let's be real.

[Manny MUA]

Let's be so real.

[Laura Lee]

But. But the truth is you're not going to be a cup of tea for everyone. You're not going to be everyone's cup of tea. We're not this person's cup of tea. They don't like us. They need someone that's slow, motone, calm. And those people are great too, but that's probably this person's more cup of tea.

[Manny MUA]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

And so they were so obsessed with us that they had to write a paragraph about it.

[Manny MUA]

Love it.

[Laura Lee]

Because they. I know. They watched episode.

[Manny MUA]

Oh, they watched the whole thing.

[Laura Lee]

No doubt in my mind. Wait, do you have any more from that? Just.

[Manny MUA]

Cuz, girl, I'm sure we do. Let me tell you something. I'm sure we do. Let me see.

[Laura Lee]

I thought you had one more. You found.

[Manny MUA]

No, I did. No, I did. Oh, my God. You're so, so, so right. Let me see.

[Laura Lee]

I'm scared.

[Manny MUA]

This one literally made me laugh out loud. This one goes. Those two made Jaclyn Hill look like Jacqueline chill. When I tell you, I scream because I'm like, first of all, I don't even think that we make Jacqueline chill.

[Laura Lee]

Maybe that's why Jacqueline likes filming.

[Manny MUA]

I think that we're all manic, including Jacqueline.

[Laura Lee]

Remember her Kim Kardashian video when they put Jacqueline next to the calmest monotone.

[Manny MUA]

Like, calm and sweet. And I'm literally, literally, like, it's just funny because I think that's also why we get along with Jacqueline so well, because she has the same kind of like, she gets it. She's manic, like, energy. We all just, like, vibe together. We all flow. We all feed off each other's energy so fiercely.

[Laura Lee]

I will say, like, if the three of us are in a room, it's a wrap. Pass earplugs out for everyone. Because we are loud.

[Manny MUA]

We're loud. We're cackling. I mean, even in the comment being like, we make Jacqueline look chill. And I think Jacqueline and us are. When we're all together are nacho. We're all, like, on a 10, a 1020. We're just constantly feeding. Like, we're just going off each other. And the thing is, is, like, Jacqueline makes us laugh. We make Jacqueline laugh. I make Laura laugh. Laura makes me laugh. Like, we're all like, just like a key.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

You know what I'm saying? Like, it just happens. So to me, like, the comment just made me laugh because I'm like, the fact that we made Jacqueline look chill is so funny.

[Laura Lee]

I'm like.

[Manny MUA]

I'm like, oh, we make Jacqueline chill. I love that. I love that.

[Laura Lee]

I'm not surprised, though, because that does. That does check out.

[Manny MUA]

It Wraps.

[Laura Lee]

That does. Okay, so I'm gonna read off. Off. Oh, here's just a funny comment that was on Reddit. I. They were talking about just me. Honestly, I. This is the shocking part. On Reddit, I never. I told you guys a million times, I never go on Reddit. It's not good for my thinker. Okay? I stay away from it. But for this video, I was like, oh, my God, I gotta go on Reddit.

[Manny MUA]

You have to dive in, you know, so you add armor to your mind.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. I'm like, I got this. And then it's paragraphs on how much people love me. And I was like, are you kidding me?

[Manny MUA]

You can't even write it.

[Laura Lee]

Since when did you write positive, positive notes on Reddit?

[Manny MUA]

I don't, I don't. But at the end of the day, Reddit is a forum, so it could be good or bad.

[Laura Lee]

Gosh, I feel like.

[Manny MUA]

But do you think also maybe Reddit was a lot bigger back in the day during, like, a monster time storm, you know what I'm saying? Like 2016 days.

[Laura Lee]

Relevant stories are like, I love Laura Lee's podcast. I love Laura Lee's YouTube channel. And I'm just like, where am I right now? You know what I mean? But back in the day, a disaster. I don't even know about it back in the day, though, because I know.

[Manny MUA]

I didn't go on Reddit. Like, I actually, this is probably the first year I ever went on Reddit was like, this year.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, just.

[Manny MUA]

And that was just for, like, also.

[Laura Lee]

I've never been a Reddit person in my whole life. So, like, it's just like an obsolete thing that doesn't exist to me. It wasn't like, me holding myself back from going on Reddit.

[Manny MUA]

Like, I really want, like, I was a Tumblr person.

[Laura Lee]

I wasn't even Tumblr. I wasn't, like, I started with, like, Instagram or Facebook. I just. I. I just wasn't.

[Manny MUA]

You missed that era a darn. Oh. Well.

[Laura Lee]

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Bring your A game and talk to your doctor. Learn more at appr2.com or call 1-888-24003. I dug from two years ago. I just can't listen to her voice for very long and then a person 29 likes and then a person comments under that I feel that her voice is a lot. I feel that. I feel that her voice is a lot.

[Manny MUA]

I love your voice.

[Laura Lee]

Oh thank you. I've grown to love my voice. I've. I've let people make me hate it forever and I just don't really do that anymore.

[Manny MUA]

I can't let it. What are you supposed to do? It's your voice. Voice.

[Laura Lee]

Isn't it crazy?

[Manny MUA]

What do you do? Mind you, I do hate listening to me back constantly where I'm like, I will freak out. Like, I will not lie. I will freak on that.

[Laura Lee]

I've said that's like, one of my worst parts of being an influencer on this podcast is having to see yourself and listen to yourself and hear your voice constantly. Constantly. It's torture. And it doesn't really get better.

[Manny MUA]

No. When you're reviewing your content. That or not reviewing it. When you're like, editing and doing that, like, when you keep hearing yourself repeat the same thing, that will get on your nerves. Like, that gets on my nerves.

[Laura Lee]

It's horrible.

[Manny MUA]

But overall, like, voice wise, it's like, you guys, you cannot hate your voice because literally that's gonna be your voice the rest of your life. Like, what are you supposed to do? Unless you're literally physically training your voice to change or you're getting surgery to change, you can't change. Like, that's something you just have to accept. It's like your height. It's not something that you can really change.

[Laura Lee]

There's things you're just gonna have to swallow those pills. But you know what's crazy? As someone with, like, a notoriously annoying, squeaky, whiny voice, like, I do. I have a notorious voice that's like, like negative. People don't like it. I created a successful YouTube channel and podcast with an annoying voice, which, like, hello, you saying something.

[Manny MUA]

I don't know what it is.

[Laura Lee]

Anyone can do it. Like, the person with the most notoriously annoying voice was able to create a pod, a very successful podcast that is just voice that is like.

[Manny MUA]

And that's in people just listening.

[Laura Lee]

All that's just people listening. So, like, if you're a person out there that's like, oh, my God, I hate the way I sound. You should really think about me. Like, you really should be like, wow, this has, like, one of the most terrible voices. And she has showed up on YouTube for thousands of videos and then created a podcast for us to listen to it some more. And it works.

[Manny MUA]

And it worked. I don't think it was her voice, though.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, thank you.

[Manny MUA]

I think. And I just think that's one of those things where people like. It's really like, to each their own. Because people can hear my voice. They can hit your. Anyone's voice at the end of the day. Like, they just don't like it and they don't like, it. And also, like, accents are different. Like, I have a Valley, like, SoCal accent in a way, so it's like, I know I sound like that. So if you don't like a Valley actor accent, then you're not going to like my accent. Like, you're talking the way I talk. So it's like, if you don't like a Southern accent, you're talking, like, the way someone's Southern talks. Like, it's just, like, kind of one of those things. So at the end of the day, you have to like your voice, period. 1. That cracked me up. Manny is just not smart. Sorry I said it.

[Laura Lee]

It's like, where is this information coming from? Manny, it's just not smart, period.

[Manny MUA]

Manny, just not smart, period.

[Laura Lee]

Sorry I said it.

[Manny MUA]

And I literally, like, okay, this is where it comes from. Where, like, the idea of my voice. And I think that this is one of those things where it's like, my voice makes me sound like I'm not smart or something like that. But at the end of the day, I am schooled, honey.

[Laura Lee]

The person's like, it wasn't your voice.

[Manny MUA]

I know. It's just, you bitch. You're stupid. Like, oh.

[Laura Lee]

No.

[Manny MUA]

And I'm like, okay, this man is not smart. So I'm like, okay, maybe it's like, the way I talk. Maybe it. I don't know. I honestly don't know where.

[Laura Lee]

It's not for you to analyze. That is not for you to analyze. That's their problem, not yours.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Also, that person probably feels like they're not very smart, so they, like, projection that whenever they feel like, oh, this person they, like, would, like, take that stab because it makes them feel better because they know they're not very smart or they feel like they're not very smart. That's how projection works, you know? Like, that's very true.

[Manny MUA]

Like, a lot of times, people tend to mirror what they actually mirror Feel.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. Onto others.

[Manny MUA]

And it like. Like, it's like, such a fun. I just thought it was, like, a funny thing.

[Laura Lee]

Let's say this person is super critical about themselves. Like, they call themselves. This person probably doesn't think they're very smart themselves. And like you said something really wacky and funny that could be taken as stupid.

[Manny MUA]

Right.

[Laura Lee]

So they would use that moment to be like, he's stupid. Like, he seems dumb. Because that's how they feel about themselves. So it makes them feel better to be like, Point someone else out and be like, they're dumb. But it's all of it. The whole Thing stems from that themselves, 100%.

[Manny MUA]

And I also think it's one of those things too, where it's like, I just think it's funny to around and be goofy. I like that. I like that.

[Laura Lee]

Try to, like, change every little thing.

[Manny MUA]

I'm not going to change.

[Laura Lee]

To make someone think this way about you, not think that about you. You're going to turn into a robot.

[Manny MUA]

And not even exist.

[Laura Lee]

You have to be in a position of being like, I'm okay that you think I'm dumb.

[Manny MUA]

And honestly, truly, I am okay with people thinking dumb. I'm.

[Laura Lee]

Truly, people don't think you're dumb. That one person.

[Manny MUA]

And even if they did, I'm like, okay, I don't really care because, you know, you're not. Yeah, I know not. And I just, like, have fun with my shit.

[Laura Lee]

Okay. This one's really great. It's only from a year ago on Reddit. It says, not a fan, dot, dot, dot. Laura and Manny give me used car salesman energy. They're sleazy. That's the word that comes to mind. We're sleazy used car sales.

[Manny MUA]

God. Wait, that I'm trying to like, like what?

[Laura Lee]

I don't know. No, this person probably.

[Manny MUA]

That's so funny.

[Laura Lee]

Stevie loves makeup. So Stevie probably watched our podcast and heard us read off our ads, and we're just like, oh, you're right. Yeah. But they probably don't listen to podcasts and know that that's how podcasts work. So they watch ours and they're like, these are supposed to be YouTubers, not podcasts. Like, what is this? And they're talking about progressive cards.

[Manny MUA]

Exactly.

[Laura Lee]

And I'm like, oh, yes, this person.

[Manny MUA]

Okay, that makes so much more sense.

[Laura Lee]

Educated on the world.

[Manny MUA]

Or just like, no. Yeah, no, podcast. Like, that's just how podcasts work, babe.

[Laura Lee]

That's how they work.

[Manny MUA]

Okay, that is the funniest shit.

[Laura Lee]

Like, we've been called a lot of things, but never, never a sleazy car salesman.

[Manny MUA]

That's unique. That's a good one. I like that it's giving you, like, Matilda, like the dad. Like, sleazy's car salesman.

[Laura Lee]

The father essence.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah, yeah. We're the father and mother of.

[Laura Lee]

I like it, I like it. I see it.

[Manny MUA]

That is funny to me. I just. That's hilarious. A car salesman is just hilarious.

[Laura Lee]

Hilarious.

[Manny MUA]

I love it. Okay, this one just. I'm like, okay, now you're trying to.

[Laura Lee]

You have to insert this picture.

[Manny MUA]

I'm gonna insert the photo. They go, am I the only one who Thinks this looks. This is what Manny Emmy way looks like. And it's a photo of human Shrek. And I literally am like, the steps is certain. The ugly steps.

[Laura Lee]

She's not ugly. Just has a beard. She's full glam with a beard.

[Manny MUA]

No, I think it's supposed to be the ugly sex sister. I think that's who the character is. On Shrek. You're like, you know what? I think you look like the ugly stepsister from Shrek.

[Laura Lee]

Not human Shrek.

[Manny MUA]

No, silly. The ugly ones.

[Laura Lee]

I know you've been dead.

[Manny MUA]

I like this. That's a clip. That's a clip. Okay, first of all, I have been tagged in the female. The stepsister from Shrek. I have been tagged in that, like, the. Because she's like the bartender.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny MUA]

I've been tagged in that so many. I've been tagged in the female dragon.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Manny MUA]

Female dragon.

[Laura Lee]

And I don't think you look like the female dragon.

[Manny MUA]

Why am I all of them?

[Laura Lee]

Donkey? No, never, never.

[Manny MUA]

Donkey Never got in those. But specifically the most. So it has been ugly.

[Laura Lee]

I think a really good idea is to never tag me. If you see a person that you're like, never tag me. If you're on TikTok and you're like, wow, this person looks like Laura Louis Lee, go ahead and don't tag me and say that. Even if you swear they're my doppelganger, Go ahead every frame and reframe yourself from tagging me and going, hey, Laura, you look just like this person or you look just like at Laura Lee. Don't do that. So, like, do the opposite. That piece of hair is beating your ass.

[Manny MUA]

Get it?

[Laura Lee]

It's gone.

[Manny MUA]

Let me tell you something. My biggest pet peeve is when people tag me and Manny. Wait, is this you? I'm not kidding. When I say, happens to me every day, almost every single week, I'm laughing. I be screenshot. I'll be sending them to Laura. And I'm like, oh, my God, look at what they look. Who they think I look like now.

[Laura Lee]

You guys, can't you just look like Manny?

[Manny MUA]

I also just don't think. I genuinely don't think that I look like any person like or like anyone.

[Laura Lee]

Anything with, like, a beard and makeup is what you look like, though. Any boy with.

[Manny MUA]

And I know the boys in the beauty world are like, I know because they begin. I know they'll be like, oh, my God, you're giving, man. Anyway, just because if they have a.

[Laura Lee]

Baby, that's probably annoying for them, and.

[Manny MUA]

They probably get Annoying, too.

[Laura Lee]

Their own identity.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah, they're like, well, he's hit. No, no, but dude, like, it literally, like, that gets on my nerves. Cuz I get tagged in.

[Laura Lee]

It doesn't feel like a compliment.

[Manny MUA]

No, it's. It's always actually a negative. Let me tell you something. It's actually completely opposite. Every single time it happens to me, it's actually. And you guys, I'm not kidding you. You'll be attacking me like, oh, my God, Manny, is this you? And they're inbred. I'm not kidding. And y' all are gonna piss me off. Oh, my God. Like, dead ass.

[Laura Lee]

That's the only time I will accept it. If y' all want to go to evil. If you all want to go to Evil Gorge, then yeah. Then yes, y' all tag me.

[Manny MUA]

No. Who else? The gorgeous one that's in. What's her name? Sandra Bullock. No, you've gotten Sandra Bullock.

[Laura Lee]

I have gotten Sandra. I've gotten it. I've gotten it.

[Manny MUA]

You've definitely gotten that one. But even Gori. Is that the number one?

[Laura Lee]

So funny.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah, yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Or Gabrielle. Who's she playing? Say Gabrielle Soles or whatever before they say Evil Longoria every episode. Me, I was prime in the prime. In the prime. Prime.

[Manny MUA]

I was obsessed.

[Laura Lee]

Deep, deep, deep, deep. I'm trying to see what other y' all be saying on Reddit. Like, let's get into it.

[Manny MUA]

What you talking about?

[Laura Lee]

How about I forgot about her and Manny, that both of them are awful people. I do not respect 100 likes.

[Manny MUA]

100. My God, that's so many.

[Laura Lee]

The.

[Manny MUA]

Are y'.

[Laura Lee]

All. I'm the guy. I'll pop Hunger Games. You know what I have to say about that?

[Manny MUA]

100. Oh, my God. 100 people don't like us.

[Laura Lee]

I want to line all hundred up, plus the one that left a comment and go.

[Manny MUA]

Me too. Me too. And then that's it.

[Laura Lee]

That's it.

[Manny MUA]

Okay, you can go. It's just that. Such a funny. Oh, my. Right. You're like this. What the fuck? Is Laura like this?

[Laura Lee]

Okay, Laura, if I have anything you gotta say, I am fucked. You got.

[Manny MUA]

Let me tell you something. I am fucked. Laura's like.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, I'm choking to death. Have some sympathy, for God's sake. I'm choking to death. He's mad that I can't. He's angry I coughed on him. I'm choking. Choking.

[Manny MUA]

You're fine. It's water. Oh, my God, that is so funny. Okay. I love that. I mean, honestly. Yes. Okay. This is such a funny One.

[Laura Lee]

Honestly, you do have to keep us humble, though.

[Manny MUA]

Oh, you do. We do need a humbling at times.

[Laura Lee]

We need a little humbling.

[Manny MUA]

We do need humbling. It's good for our mental health. Health.

[Laura Lee]

It's good.

[Manny MUA]

You know, it is good for our health, our mental health and our well being. We do need that at times for the. If I have a hair on my forehead, you have to take it.

[Laura Lee]

The hair's back. We need to cut it. But I know you never. It's a transplant. Oh, yeah. We ain't cutting the transplant hair, honey.

[Manny MUA]

You guys. We can't cut the transplant hair. Okay, so this one I thought was really interesting. So it goes Manny on Fox News. Okay, so I was on Fox News girl.

[Laura Lee]

What side mission? I guess not me.

[Manny MUA]

Laura's like, why are you on Fox News?

[Laura Lee]

Corresponding.

[Manny MUA]

I'm like, this solicit full glam. No, imagine me on Fox News. They would camp.

[Laura Lee]

They would have a stroke.

[Manny MUA]

They would have a full stroke. So apparently. So I was on Fox News. They were using me as an example on Fox News.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, oh, oh, oh. I see what this is like basically.

[Manny MUA]

Saying that the left is having a war. They called you the F. They basically did that. The left is waging a war on women because we like to wear makeup. Boys wear makeup.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny MUA]

And I'm like, like this.

[Laura Lee]

Yes, yes.

[Manny MUA]

And then the comment that was like cracking me up that was like, oh, my go read. It is literally like, well, it's the truth. Literally, like, what are you talking about? Me wearing makeup has no. Is no, like, war on women.

[Laura Lee]

There's no war on women.

[Manny MUA]

I actually just love women so much.

[Laura Lee]

If you guys really, in Fox, if you guys wrote down the percentages of the men wearing makeup versus the percentages of the women wearing makeup, you would feel very secure in our dominance in the space of beauty. You would feel very secure. You wouldn't be shaking in your boots that a man put on a lash. You wouldn't. You would still be able to sleep at night. Yes, you would. You really would feel comfortable that women will remain dominating that space.

[Manny MUA]

Which is funny because, like, the example that Fox was saying, basically their video is literally like, look at that as an example of, like, why it's me. I'm the example.

[Laura Lee]

Terrible picture of you with, like a wonky.

[Manny MUA]

Let me tell you something. It was like on the carpet, I'm like this servant. Oh, you said, you're. We're good. We're serving. I said, no, we are. We're. I was in my mind, I was like, this on the carpet, like, absolutely. Giving and serving. And so I'm like, well, at least I use that good photo of me. But I'm like, I just think it's, it's crazy that it's like this whole idea, it's like, it's too divisive. I'm like, you guys, at the end of the day, I can wear makeup and have fun with it and just play around and, you know, have a key. And it has nothing to do with.

[Laura Lee]

As Mel Robbins would say, Let them.

[Manny MUA]

Let them, Let them. Let it be.

[Laura Lee]

Let it. Adam.

[Manny MUA]

Yes. I thought that was really. That was a funny point.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, my God. I thought you went on Fox. Things happen sometimes. You got.

[Manny MUA]

No, not me. Not this time.

[Laura Lee]

No, no. Okay. Someone wrote out a full theory on my makeup brand and I just thought was interesting. It's kind of like they think I'm not in the room, but here I am.

[Manny MUA]

They didn't know that you were in the room. They had no idea.

[Laura Lee]

It's always dystopian to read someone write something about you, like so in detail.

[Manny MUA]

That they have no idea. That they have no idea. Yeah, no, I completely agree with you.

[Laura Lee]

I have. So this person said, I have an unfounded theory that she's going to close down. Laura Lee, Los Angeles. The brand hasn't released anything since her collab with Lunar Beauty, and she's still a regular makeup wearer. She is basically one look that she does slight reef, very minimal changes. So it probably just doesn't make make sense for her to continue releasing makeup anymore. I was like, okay.

[Manny MUA]

It's kind of fascinating that they kind of like chewed in a way.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Like, I feel like they were like, yeah, you know what? A lot of other moving parts. I mean, I, I video and a full tick tock on why I closed it. But like we. I started my brand too early. I started my makeup brand. And the evolution of influencer makeup brands is with an investor that does it all for you. And whenever you have a small mom and pop that you created yourself years and years ago, the evolution of how things are outran how I created my business for sure. So it was the best decision to close that down and either start over, but in the way this person's right. Because I am not like your number one beauty guru. I like skincare and hair more than anything now. And it doesn't make sense for me to dive back into that. So it's just like as time changes things, you know what I mean?

[Manny MUA]

Of course you learn, you grow.

[Laura Lee]

But there was another Huge factor in that.

[Manny MUA]

Well, I think it's just an interesting point in general that, you know, they're like, they were basically making an assumption.

[Laura Lee]

Based on what they saw.

[Manny MUA]

And at this time, the assumption was like getting somewhere. But it wasn't like fully manufactured. It was just like an idea.

[Laura Lee]

It was a good idea.

[Manny MUA]

And they were kind of like, oh, eight. Okay, this. This one I thought was interesting. And it was like, why did Man Yami weight call out 13 loon?

[Laura Lee]

Oh.

[Manny MUA]

Why? Why? No. So, like, the whole situation that happened with 13 Lune when I was talking about, you know, like getting owed money and I made a whole YouTube, not YouTube video, I made a whole TikTok about it and it ended actually blowing the fuck up on TikTok. And people were basically, the conversation was like, well, why did he do that? Like, it seemed like almost unprofessional. But I felt like in that moment, what I have that a lot of people don't have is an audience and a reach. And I think that it's important to when you do have those things to be able to utilize them. You know what I mean? Especially when it's something like, for example, I was trying to be that person. I was trying to be professional. I was trying to be the person that's in the emails and doing everything behind the scenes and just, you know, making it happen. But if I don't have, you know, if I'm not getting anywhere with that, then what do I have that a lot of brands might not have? Is that. So it's like, that's why I did it. That's why I talked about it. And also when I did that, a lot of brands actually came out and talked about the situation that they were dealing with the same exact thing. So I'm like, oh, my God. So it really was just almost like kind of opening a door so other people could walk through the door, but the door was closed, you know, and I felt like at the time I opened it, but I didn't really know I was opening a door, if that makes sense. I was just like, hey, I just need to talk about this because I do want to be paid what I'm owed.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. It was more about you trying to run your business and keep it going and, you know, keep facilitating.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Trying to get the money rather than, you know, being a spokesperson for a situation.

[Manny MUA]

Oh, God. Honestly, I had no idea it was going to even be that. I didn't know people were going to come to me me about these things at all. I was actually really Surprised. But at the end of the day, all I really wanted was to talk about something where I was able to get my money back. And if I did get my money back, then I need to be exposed because I didn't like how they were running their business. Then at the end of the day, if I was never getting my money back, which I still have not, then I do not want my name attached to them in any way, shape or form. And I do think that they need to be exposed that they're not that kind of business.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, it's always risky to do that too, because of what this person, you know or what you were even saying. Like, it teeters on the line of, like, will it scare away other wholesaler?

[Manny MUA]

Totally.

[Laura Lee]

Like, you do potentially take that risk whenever you expose a situation.

[Manny MUA]

So absolutely. It's risky.

[Laura Lee]

It's risky.

[Manny MUA]

I feel like the 50k that I was owed, I was. It was worth it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

So that's what I feel like at the end of the day, that it was worth me talking about it because I don't want people to potentially go into business with a company like that. That is not going to be a good partner.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny MUA]

So that's why another reason I wanted to talk about not only give my money, but it's like something that I feel like should have been exposed. So that's why I wanted to expose it point blank.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, exactly. Well, good. I'm glad you were able to say your piece.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

This next one isn't necessarily negativity. I'm telling you, I swear to God. Like, I wasn't looking up Laura Lee 2018 drama, because I don't think that's relevant. I'm looking for more negativity these past few years, maybe current times, since I was almost eight years ago. But this one was from two years ago. And it's like, I've been on a Laura Lee kick lately. Between our podcast and our YouTube channel, I've been watching her a lot. I know she got canceled in the past, but things are better now, now. And I really. But I really don't like watching problematic people. And I'm reading this out loud because I was like, you know, interesting take, but I'm also not here to advocate. Like, if you don't want to follow me and don't like me and feel like I'm problematic, I'm not here to advocate, to beg you to do it. Like, I've let that go. That is what it is. And, you know, I. I'm in such a happy, good place now. Like if you want to be with me on this journey. Journey would love to have you, would love for you to be here. But if you don't, I would never beg and I respect your decision not to. You know what I mean?

[Manny MUA]

Totally. And the thing is I actually what I find fascinating to about the topic in general, I think that's just an overarching like conversation is that even in their comments saying but I don't want to follow problematic people at the end of the day. People don't always stay problematic.

[Laura Lee]

I know it's like literally someone in a chain. Yeah. It's like you should watch where a person is now and you be the judge.

[Manny MUA]

100 I think it really. It just like takes your own what you feel like at the end of the day.

[Laura Lee]

But I'm not here to beg anyone to follow me or to like me.

[Manny MUA]

It is what it is.

[Laura Lee]

I've spent years trying to convince people I'm a good person. You know, you feel like. And you're like trying to prove it.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

But I think there comes a time where you get confident in knowing who you are and knowing that you're a good person. And so. So people that don't want to believe that you have to let them fall to the wayside and just say okay, I respect that. Like I respect that too.

[Manny MUA]

It is what it is, honey.

[Laura Lee]

I'm confident enough in knowing who I am as a human being to let that fall to the wayside because I know for a fact there are millions of people who will see me for who I am and that will show through time, which it has. And that's what I'll be left with. And what a fantastic thing.

[Manny MUA]

Exactly. I cannot agree with more.

[Laura Lee]

What a wonderful thing to be left.

[Manny MUA]

With at the end of the day. You cannot control people perceive you. That's just point blank.

[Laura Lee]

That is the hardest thing about and.

[Manny MUA]

It'S so hard to swallow but it's the truth.

[Laura Lee]

So I think whenever you're confident in yourself and you know who you are, like I know I'm not a terrible person.

[Manny MUA]

Totally.

[Laura Lee]

I know I'm not names people call me and I'm so secure in that that you're able to more so let than rumors and stupid comments fall to the wayside and like accept that not everyone's going to like you and that maybe some people spread things that are true. You're not going to want to defend yourself as much because you're so. Because I'm so confident in who I am and I know that. And millions of People have chosen to follow me and you know that too, who have actually followed us.

[Manny MUA]

Totally.

[Laura Lee]

I feel so loved every day whenever I get on online. It feels like such a beautiful place. So I don't know, I. I feel great about it. But I will say it is such a hard pill to swallow. You know, accepting whenever someone like you.

[Manny MUA]

Maybe in the beginning it's a harder pill to swallow. Whereas, like, that's something where it's like, especially like, let's say if you're like a people pleaser or you know, in recovery, people pleasing, it's. It's a very hard pill to swallow because it's like, oh my God, if someone doesn't like me, that doesn't make sense. Like, why wouldn't they like me based off of like what you've done? So it is tough in the beginning, but that' something that you grow into.

[Laura Lee]

And I think that's maturity, like in knowing who you are. Like, I'm very confident in the person that I am and I know my thoughts and I know the people around me and I know the conversations we have are so fantastic that like, if someone doesn't want to believe that, I'm okay with that.

[Manny MUA]

Totally.

[Laura Lee]

I'm okay with that. So, yeah, it's just like a different mindset. But it's learning, growing with age. And with that being said, I think that's our last one.

[Manny MUA]

Yeah, the last one too.

[Laura Lee]

So we love you guys. Thank you guys for listening us to laughing out.

[Manny MUA]

It's funny. It honestly, it's funny. And like there's like the funny moments. Moments and then there's a like, oh, we can actually have a conversation about like a thing that is more profound. You know what I'm saying? So I like episodes like this because it's like a key. But then it's also like, oh, we can actually have like a combo deep.

[Laura Lee]

Dive, a deep dive in the conversation and digest it. But we love you guys. Be sure to subscribe to our channel. If you haven't give us a like and we'll see you in the next one. Bye, guys.

[Manny MUA]

Bye, guys.

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