Things influencers do that really PISS US OFF!

Summary

Fool Coverage with Manny MUA and Laura Lee

Episode: Things Influencers Do That Really PISS US OFF!
Date: July 3, 2026
Podcast: Fool Coverage (PodcastOne)

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Episode Overview

In this highly entertaining and candid episode, OG beauty influencers and besties Manny MUA and Laura Lee spill all the tea on pet peeves and annoying behaviors they see among influencers and creators. With their signature humor and realness, they break down trends, content styles, and industry secrets that drive them up the wall—while also poking fun at themselves. This is a must-listen (or read!) for anyone curious about the influencer world, its frustrations, and how to thrive without selling your soul.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Personal Updates & TV Talk

(Timestamps: 03:07–13:16)

• Manny’s First Music Video Experience

  • Manny shares his excitement and nerves about filming a music video for friend Neza’s song “Gigi.”
    • “I'm throughout it. I'm like, the bitchy director is, like, my role. And I was like, that's gonna be so hard for me.” (03:49, Manny)
  • Both hosts rave about the video and how involved Manny ended up being.
  • Laura jokes: “Me and Neza were messaging this morning, and we both decided it's time for you to get in to acting!” (04:43, Laura)

• TV Show Recommendations

  • Laura is obsessed with “House of Dragons” season 2 and praises Apple TV shows “Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed” and “Widow’s Bay.”
    • “It's hilarious. So, yeah, you guys should check that out. So that's kind of. My peak is, like, TV shows. And then, of course, Love Island.” (09:55, Laura)
  • Manny’s been binging “Avatar: The Last Airbender” live-action adaptation.

• Lunar Beauty x Ulta Launch

  • Manny proudly announces Lunar Beauty joining Ulta Marketplace, sharing pros of retail and shopping at Ulta for both drugstore and high-end lovers.

• Relatable “Pit” Stories

  • Water bottle mishaps ruin podcast shirts and laptops; both hosts share hilarious war stories.
    • “Why are we putting water bottles in our bags? That's already like, you know what? I'm asking for it...” (17:32, Manny)

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2. Chemistry, Friendship, and Industry Realness

(Timestamps: 19:00–21:30)

• The hosts riff on being sought-after influencer BFFs, friend jealousy, and being “busy and booked.”
• “We're very busy. We're very important. We're very sought after.” (20:44, Laura)
• “I'm an Aries, so I can get kind of jealous and possessive.” (20:25, Manny)

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3. Main Theme: Influencer Behaviors That Piss Us Off

(Timestamps: 21:31–59:42)

A. “Aesthetic” Culture & The Cult of Pretty

• The “Pretty, No-Personality” Influencer (23:31–27:36)

  • Both hosts roast the dead-eyed, monotone, hyper-curated beauty content lacking any authenticity.
    • Manny: “Sometimes I think it's so weird that creators and influencers use their beauty or the way that they look as their only thing that they have. And they don't give personality.” (24:48)
    • Laura: “You're even more pretty when you are funny.” (25:24)
  • Fake personas online that don’t match real life are a major pet peeve.

• Posting Only Aesthetic Content / Suppressing Humor

  • Influencers hide their funny side to “protect their aesthetic.”
    • “It doesn't go with the aesthetic of my page and that annoyed me.” (26:09, Laura)

• Quiet, Prettiness-Focused Influencers Getting Chosen by Brands

  • Brands favoring “influencer mannequins” over creators with true voice/personality.

B. Content/Algorithm Manipulation

• Inflating Content for Tiktok Creator Fund (27:41–28:47)

  • Over-wordy, drawn-out stories just to meet the 60-second payout.
    • “You haven’t told me anything… I'm not even annoyed. I'm pissed.” (28:28, Laura)

• Posting Seven Times a Day & Burnout (38:36–41:41)

  • Unrealistic, toxic “grind” culture of constant posting leads to burnout and missing real life.
    • “You’re not posting as you live. You’re living to post.” (41:17, Manny)
  • “I regret not living more of my life because I lived my life for social media.” (41:08, Manny)

• Constant “Algorithm Complaint” Posts (41:59–44:09)

  • Excessive whining about algorithm/performance is a turn-off; “Occasional is okay, weekly is cringe.”
    • “Maybe it’s your content.” (42:40, Laura)
    • “Complain to your best friend, not your audience!” (43:37, Laura)

C. Influencer-Brand Relationships

• Sucking Up to Brands After Being Wronged (29:08–32:49)

  • When creators get dumped or treated badly by a brand but continue to promote them, hoping for future opportunities.
    • “You have to take the power back because your social media is your own, not the brand’s.” (33:12, Laura)
    • “You cannot be their puppet all the time. I’m sorry, you just can’t.” (33:24, Manny)

• Dishonesty on TikTok Shop (44:10-47:22)

  • Creators making blatant false claims to sell products, especially strangers with no reputation.
  • “I've been got fiercely because they're just lying.” (44:22, Manny)

D. Oversharing & Audience Boundaries

• Oversharing Then Getting Mad at Audience Opinions (35:52–38:31)
  • Don’t be shocked or angry when the internet responds to your drama—if you post it, you invite opinions.
    • “If you don’t want the opinions… don’t talk about it!” (37:43, Manny)
    • “You're choosing to put it out there. So don’t start tearing people up when they have an opinion that you don’t like.” (38:00, Laura)

E. Classic Clichés & Fake Routines

• The “I Don’t Care” Paradox (49:01–50:12)

  • Creators say, “I don’t care,” then post multiple videos clearly showing they do.
    • “If you say out loud, yes, you care.” (49:32, Laura)
    • “Baby, you care. And that is okay because you're human.” (49:57, Manny)

• Fake Morning Routines (53:15–55:16)

  • Callout of over-produced, inauthentic morning routines everyone copies for the algorithm.
    • “If you like to watch that for fun, love it… But just know it’s not real.” (55:04, Laura)
    • “That is for an aesthetic. It's not for reality.” (55:01, Manny)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

(Timestamps in MM:SS format)

• “I think we are the pinnacle of what an influencer should be.” (21:07, Laura)
• “I just want to talk shit and be judgmental and just have a key.” (21:30, Manny)
• “You're not posting as you live. You're living to post.” (41:17, Manny)
• “You cannot be their puppet all the time.” (33:24, Manny)
• “If you say out loud, yes, you care.” (49:32, Laura)
• “That’s a luxury. That is not work… Getting a spray tan. That's not work.” (54:29, Laura)
• “If you don’t want the opinions… don’t talk about it!” (37:43, Manny)
• “If you like to watch that for fun, love it… But just know it’s not real.” (55:04, Laura)

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Listener Engagement

• The hosts encourage listeners to share their own influencer pet peeves:
  • “Tell us what you think. You guys, you have to tell us one thing—what we do that pisses you off… Is it part of ones we've talked about, or another?” (58:49)

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Episode Structure & Important Segments

| Segment | Time | |--------------------------------------------|------------| | Welcome, Life Updates, TV Talk | 01:22–13:16| | Peeks & Pits, Friendship Banter | 13:17–21:30| | Intro to Main Topic | 21:31–23:31| | Influencer Pet Peeves - Main Discussion | 23:31–59:10| | Listener Prompt + Outro | 58:49–59:53|

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Tone & Style

• Playful, irreverent, and honest; thoroughly judgmental but self-aware and relatable.
• Candid banter as industry insiders (“We just want to talk shit and be judgmental and just have a key.” – 21:30, Manny)
• Deep industry knowledge with a wink and plenty of self-deprecating humor.

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For anyone wanting the inside scoop on what influencer friends really gripe about, this episode is a masterclass in glam, honesty, and hilarious rants. Share it with your most online friend—you'll both be entertained and enlightened!

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Say what you said on close friends the other day. Same way you said on close friends. You were talking magic. I couldn't do it.

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Okay, whatever. He's a fuck ass.

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Okay? Or they'll clip it. Roast your ass.

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Stop sucking brands.

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Oh, my God. I thought you were gonna say something crazy about that. Yes.

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Whichever doesn't stick. Delete.

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Welcome to your favorite podcast. It's full coverage with your host, Laura

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Lee and Manny Mua. Welcome to full Friday.

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Hey, it's actually Friday.

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It's actually Friday. She filming on a Friday for once.

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You guys. Tonight we're going out to the gay clubs. I'm finding Manny his love, his life, and I gotta hook up with.

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Oh my God. Yeah, everything. Love of his life, hookup, kissing.

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We'll find all three tonight.

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Shots. Manny doesn't drink shots.

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We're so excited because we're going to weho to watch Love island in the bar in the club.

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I'm so excited about it, like, and it's like today's episode, which is won't be for you guys, but we're watching is the end of casa Amore. So it's actually, actually a good one.

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It's gonna be a banger banger tonight.

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So I'm actually really excited that we're all like a bunch of us are all going to like watch Love island at the bar.

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We're meeting the goo.

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I can't wait.

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Okay, let us film a podcast episode real quick. And then.

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And Then we'll meet you there.

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So we're going straight after this.

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Give us a one, two, a one, and we'll be right back. But it's because, you guys, we had, like, we're busy.

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We're booked up right now.

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We're busy. We're booked. Like, it's crazy.

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We normally film, like, during the week, but we are filming a week early this episode because me and man are so just important.

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We just have so much going on, and we can't film next week.

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We simply can't.

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We can't. We just have. We're just too much. Just too much. Like, really, it is, like, both of us.

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No, the fact that we are both

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busy and, like, don't have a data overlap is crazy. It's so, like, when you think about it, it's like, wow, we actually have a lot going on next week.

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Yes.

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Like, for real.

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So crazy. So whenever we come home and we film the podcast, I'm gonna talk about our adventures.

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Oh, can't wait.

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Yeah.

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Because I'm sure we'll have a lot.

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We'll have a lot. See, it's better to talk about after we get back.

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Yes.

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Because then I'll have more stories. Yeah.

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Correct. Correct.

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Okay. Peek and peek and peak and pit.

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Yes. So actually, you know, I have two peaks.

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Let's.

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I might have to do peaks and stack, and I usually in the tent, it's like, I have two pits, like, but I had to, like, find a peak. But I have two peaks this time. I'm excited. So one of them is that I was in my first music video.

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Oh.

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Which was so fun. And it was just a really, really fun experience to be in it. So Neza, who's a friend of ours, she's actually on the podcast. She came out this song named Gigi, and she had asked me, she said, do you want to be, like, in a little snippet at the end, like, a little voice line? And I was like, sure, I'll send you a little voice note. And literally was like, she told me the line, I sent her a voice note, and that was all it was. And she's like, I'm actually doing a music video. Do I do, like, a cameo? And I'm like, great down. Turns out, ended up being, like, in the video, like, for reals. And, like, I'm throughout it. I'm like, the. The bitchy director is, like, my role. And I was like, that's gonna be so hard for me.

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So that's like, core you.

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That's me.

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So that's literally Manny Mua.

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I was like, a bitchy director. That sounds crazy. So out of my realm, but end up being really, really fun. And I got to. I just posted it to you for the first time, and a lot of people are, like, really liking it, so I'm just happy.

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First of all, I have a lot of things to say.

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Okay, Give it to me.

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I have notes. Lord knows I have notes.

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I. I was texting her, like, during.

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Yes. I've been on this journey with Manny.

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Yes.

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First of all, the song is such a bop, isn't it?

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Crazy.

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Crazy. Good song. You guys check out. Manny's also posted this, so go to his Instagram reels and you can hear

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the full song and see all three minutes.

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Watch all. I did.

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Thank you.

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I sure did.

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It was worth the watch.

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You're in so, so much of the video.

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I am now.

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Yeah. Okay. Second thing. Me and Neza were messaging this morning, and we both decided it's time for you to get intact.

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Stop it. Thank you.

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We were about. Yes. It's so good. You're such a good actor in it.

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I felt like it was funny because when I was watching it, I had comments that were like, that's just how you are. Like, I'm not actually, like, a director, but I think I'm just being myself. But no, I was saying, like, I was. I was. I was telling her. I was like, I'm kind of, like, nervous. Like, I. And I was telling Laura I was nervous, too. Cause I was like, I've never, like, done anything like this. I've never, like, had been like, hey. Where they're like, okay, deliver these lines. And, like, this is what you're just gonna do. And we're gonna do multiple takes of that. I was like, I've never done that. I've done it in a way where I've done the commercials for brands and stuff. But that's different. Cause I'm just like, Manny me way, right? Like, that's not the same thing. You're not being. I'm just talking whatever they're doing. So I thought it was really fun. And I understood now, like, how it takes so long to do these videos.

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Oh, my gosh.

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And to be on set and to do these things. And when we shot, like, we would shoot the scenes multiple times, but we would change the camera angle.

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Yeah.

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So then we would shoot the same scene again, but a different angle. So it's like, oh, this is how things take so long is because you're doing so many different, like, takes and different angles for different things. But I just had a really fun time doing it.

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It looked like it. And it looked like really, really good song. Great music video. So entertaining.

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The vibe, it's.

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It was the vibe. Like, it's everything. So you guys have to check it out. I love it.

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Thank you. And, like, I was, like, watching it so that the premise is that, like, I'm doing an open call and she comes in and she's a Gigi. And Gigi stands for get it, get it. Like, that's the whole song. If you get it, get it, whatever. So she's like in with her clones. And, like, at first I'm like, what the. This is like, crazy. Like, what the. Like, what is going on? And then by the end of the song, I'm starting to kind of like, oh, I kind of like, I'm kind of living, like, this is so fun. And then I become a Gigi at the end and I have, like, my own little Gigi patch. And that's why I say my line.

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Oh, yeah. You were so much taller than all.

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They're in a heel.

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Yes.

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I was towering in the girls.

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You were tap because you were the center of all the girls dancing and you were towering.

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No, it's actually. And I love it because I just saw the final edit today as well. It got posted today. I saw the final edit today and the effects that they added, like, to the eyes to make a robotic. I was like, oh, this is like, really sick. Like, you guys. Such a fucking good job. So. And it'd be really fun. So you guys have to watch it and check it out. And I actually will link the actual YouTube video for as well to like, give as a shout out as well. So I'll leave that linked in our description.

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Check it out, guys. So good. Thank you. Okay, well, I have a couple TV shows I want to talk about as my peak.

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Yes.

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So I'm watching through right now. Let's talk about House of Dragons, please, you guys.

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And mind you, it's so back.

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It's so back.

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It's so back.

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Yes.

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The second I watched episode, I go, did you watch the House of Dragons? To Laura immediately.

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I said, I sure did. I sure. I was running on the treadmill when you text me that. I was like this. I sure send you all kinds of crazy messages, like letters and all. But it's so good. This is. I thought the second season was quite boring.

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Same.

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And now we're back.

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So that's why I was kind of like, that's why when I told you. I was like, this episode should have been the finale of two, because if it was a finale of two, it actually would have tied it like crazy. And it could have probably made the show look way better and left us

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on a huge cliffhanger still, you know what I mean? Because it was just information in season two.

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Yes.

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And I get that to do story build up, but it was like, we got nothing.

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It's a lot of story.

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Second of all, I'm watching this show called Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed on, I believe it's Apple tv. And it's really good. Kind of high anxiety, but it's really good. It's about a woman who. Her life is kind of a mess. And she does the webcam thing. Like, sexting on webcam. Like, call boy. She does call boys. Like, she has a guy. She's. She is not the cam girl. She calls in, asking, ask her.

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She's want. She's seeking.

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She seeks that. So she has a little call boy that she calls on cam living. And she's like, probably like my age or older, maybe in her 40s. And, like, she's recently divorced. So she's using this to, like, get off. And, like, it all goes very, very south. He scams her and like, no. Yeah, there's murder. And by. It's crazy.

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I can't wait. I totally would watch this.

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It's. Oh, you would like it a lot. So the callboy in it is Tyler from 13 Reasons why.

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Oh, my God.

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You know him.

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I've never seen him in so long. Yeah, I've been just, like, seeing the actor in forever. Yes, I know, exactly.

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So he's the cowboy in it.

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Wow. I wouldn't expect him to be, like, a cowboy.

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I know. He does a really good job. Okay, so you guys should check that show out. It's really good. Manny, you would like it. It's on Apple tv. And then the next show is also on Apple tv. Come on Apple tv with a banger. Banger ban. Widow's bay.

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I've heard Wills Bay.

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It is going viral.

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People keep talking about that on Tick Tock. I've been seeing.

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Okay, so it's comedy.

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I was supposed to be funny and scary.

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Yes, that's what I heard. And episodes are short, like 30 minutes. Like, they're a little bite size, so you could burn through this in like five minutes. But it is love. So freaking everyone's talking about it.

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It's like the actors talking about it. Like interviews.

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It's unique. It's a unique show because the funny Is, like, really funny, but it's actually at a really dark purple premise where if you leave the island, you die if you were born there.

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Got it.

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So he's got, like, a teenage son and he really wants to leave. And they're trying to figure out how to kill off the rest of a bloodline so that way people can leave the island. It's really dark, but it's hilarious. Like, the show is hilarious. So, yeah, you guys should check that out. So that's kind of. My peak is, like, TV shows. And then, of course, Love Island.

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Of course. As we're watching our five episodes a week. Maybe when you watch Love island for reals, like, that's a lifestyle.

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It is a lifestyle. And I was dreading getting into it because last year it took over my life. And this year I'm not happy about it. I love it because I'm having so much fun watching it with you guys.

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That's so fun.

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You know what? I feel like our group chat, because for once in our life, all watching it at the same time, watching it. So it's made it more fun.

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100. Like, I'm actually enjoying because now it feels like we're all keying over the same thing in different ways. And we all have. And it's so funny because a lot of us actually have a lot of differing opinions about the show.

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Yeah.

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And. And about different people.

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We disagree all the time.

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We disagree all the time. So it makes it kind of fun because it's like, oh, my God. Like, that's. And you see that why? And you kind of like. You see it, but then it's kind of like, oh, but I don't feel the same. So it's kind of fun to just like, see everyone's opinions about it.

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Yeah.

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You know, it just makes it fun. I just binged Avatar Last Airbender live.

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And how was that? And tell us how that was.

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Six episodes, two days.

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Wow.

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I have two more. I have two more. And it was really. It's really fun. I just love watching live action anime stuff.

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What's that? Netflix.

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I'm like, okay.

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I know they have a huge. I know they have a huge fan base.

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It's, like, disgusting.

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Yeah.

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The Avatar Last Airbender franchise world is truly beyond. It's like uns. It's crazy. But you didn't like it. It's in English. It's actually more of a cartoon. It's not anime. It's like, you. You watch it English. It was made in English. Like, it's a cartoon on Nickelodeon. It was a Nickelodeon cartoon.

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Oh, okay. Cool.

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My other peak. Is that so random. I'm like, I can't believe this even worked out. But it did. So I'm. Lunar Beauty is now on Ulta Marketplace Y, which is like a fun, like, little extra thing because we love finding, like, retailers that we like and that we enjoy and different things like that. And it just went live yesterday, actually. And Ulta has this thing called Ulta Marketplace and it's basically like a hub. And on Ulta's website where it's like online only.

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Yeah.

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But it's like, we don't have to have our stuff with Ulta.

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That makes sense. Its own fulfillment center. Yes.

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It shifts from us. So it's like, it's basically just like another resource.

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It's like a platform.

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The platform. It's literally just an extra platform to have. And the cool thing about Ulta Marketplace is that let's say you have like Ulta Bucks or like you have like things that apply to Ulta. You can use them on those things. So it's like, let's say you have like money in your account and you're like, fuck, I want to try like the Lunar Beauty setting powder. You can. And you can use like $10 off.

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So where do you go to get to Ulta Marketplace?

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It's on Ulta's like, website. Even, like, like on the actual. It's like a tab. It's like on their actual website. So I thought that was really cool and really interesting. And we just made that work like literally this week. So I'm like, okay, cool. The girlies that like, you know, want to buy through Ulta or have Ulta points and they're Ulta girlies you can buy. A lot of Lunar Beauty stuff is on their marketplace now. Me too. I'm also girly, like down. Like, if I had the choice, I would just go to Ulta.

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They have everything now.

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Everything. I also just like the mixture of the drugstore stuff. Like, I'm a huge. Obviously, just like you. Like, we're huge drugstore, like lovers. Drugstore makeup lovers. So it's like I'd love to go to the spot that can get both.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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100.

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And like a lot of times, like, transparently I'm not buying like the high end makeup anymore. Like, I just don't really care. Like, I'm not buying.

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I feel like old days have the best high end selection. Like back in the day, now they have everything. Now they're like rare Kylie, like Everything is there.

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I could not agree more.

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So that's really awesome. And then my pit.

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My pit is that. That's my pit right there.

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No, I don't want to say that.

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It's hard when you have such a. It's hard when you're so perfect. What is your pit, Laura? I cannot believe we you walked in here without a pit. Actually, Laura always walks in here without a pit and she asked Tyler, what's up?

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I really do.

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That's the reality.

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I really do.

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What have you done? That's like, I'm like travel.

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Okay, this part.

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Okay, wait. I have a pit. It's more of a story of what happened to me in the past because it happened to Manny today. You do have a pit.

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That's literally my pit.

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Yeah, tell them.

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And I didn't have a pit.

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Tell them.

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No, you tell them first, and then I'll co sign.

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So Manny, I'm laughing. He comes in. We both have tote bags with all of our stuff because we filmed the podcast all day. And, like, he has water bottle in there, and he picks it up and he's like, damn, my water bottle was open. And then he picks up his shirt that was in there, and he's like, oh, my God, my shit's wet. And then I was like, is it super wet? And it's, like, dripping water, like, pouring out of the shirt. I pulled my shirt. It looks like you pulled it out of a pool. And I was like, is that the shirt you're gonna wear tonight? And he was so pissed. And I was like, it's okay, because that actually happened me, when we were filming the podcast, I had my Stanley in there, but I had it setting upright, and it slipped sideways.

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And the standies can leak.

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They can and will. They insist to leak. And it ruined my laptop, and I had to spend $5,000 on a laptop. I was like, why are we putting

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water bottles in our bags?

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Why are we putting water bottles?

[B]

That's already like, you know what? I'm asking for it because it's happened to me at volleyball, and it's fucked me once and now it's fucked me again.

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So embarrassing.

[B]

And it's mind you, mind you. And when it happened at volleyball, I'm walking my gym bag out. It's dripping water in the gym in front of everyone.

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They're like, hey, your dad's leaking. You're like, I'm not fixing it and

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I'm not wiping it.

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I don't care. I want to go home.

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I was so mad because I'm carrying my bag out. It's soaking my shirt because it's falling into the side and it's drilling on the ground.

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Awful.

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I was so pissed off. And now I fucking. I had two shirts. I don't know if I want to pick which. You get options at options.

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So you're rather in the sink now. He has to pick out a shirt from Tyler's closet tonight.

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And I can't wear this one, you

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guys, because I know also, it's not

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gay enough, you guys. I had gay shirts.

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We're going to WeHo. You saw the heart shirt. I'm gonna wear gay because Love Island.

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Yes.

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It's perfect for the night.

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It's also just like very gay.

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It's very gay. It's so gay club.

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So it's like, oh, my gosh. If we had things like I wanted. I had this other shirt that was like a cut off here. I had a tight ass, little black,

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like, Tyler, do you have any crop tops?

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I'm not going shirtless to WeHo.

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I inserted the picture of the last.

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Oh, I saw.

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And look how shirtless everyone was.

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I was looking. I was really expecting. I'm like, you're get a TikTok behind me. I was like, this.

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Yeah.

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Tank top.

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Yeah. And that's it. All right. That was hard.

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One day, Top, literally, I was. I was cracked. When I saw it on Close Friends, I started busting.

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It's actually funny because I went to look it up because you had texted me that and I was like, let me find this little picture. And it was a video and you go through the sea of men. So it's actually way worse. I just took a screen. It is a semen.

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Semen.

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Semen. And poppers are.

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Oh, everywhere. I saw poppers literally the whole night.

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I could smell.

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I was getting a headache.

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Contact high through the video. I know the damn.

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I hope your close friends like that one. I hope they enjoyed that.

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They did. They were tearing you up. They were tearing you up. They sure did.

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I know those close friends are like, yep.

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They're like, I know, girl, you're tired, aren't you?

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I know you're tired of Manny's ass. And I'm like, it's a blessing, really. It's a blessing because I'm very blessed. They wish they had a like me in their life. It had me.

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But you can't.

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But you can't. Sorry. Unspoken fl. I'm the exact same with Laura and I'm literally like, that's funny. You want to have her. Because you can't.

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I'm like this behind you.

[B]

No, literally. And all the gays want to be like good besties with Laura, too.

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They do.

[B]

It's so annoying.

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Mary thought.

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It's so annoying.

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There's no in between. Either love me or you hate my ass.

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You're not going to be her friend. The problem is that I'm an Aries, so I can get kind of jealous and possessive. Those moments in me.

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Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It can leap out.

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Oh, yes. Yes.

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It can leap.

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They do out. I do.

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And they want you. And I don't like it.

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Sorry about it.

[B]

You know, we're sought after. What can we say?

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It's true. We're very busy. We're very important. We're very sought after.

[B]

I'm so glad that we are so hyping on ourselves.

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Delusional.

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Delusion. Okay, guys, so today's episode.

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Yep.

[B]

We thought it'd be kind of fun to talk about things that we just wish influencers wouldn't do.

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Yeah.

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Creators wouldn't do. This is based off of our own personal opinion. Things that we see. We've probably done some things.

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Honestly, though, me and Manny are like, perfect influencer. I think we are the pinnacle of what an influencer should be.

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Mama, She's like. And your acting is like, ass, Mama. The woman's like, hacks. I don't think you chill. But we thought it would just kind of be fun. And at the end of the day, we just want to be judgmental.

[C]

We just want to be judgmental.

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I'm sorry. I just want to talk shit and be judgmental and just have a key.

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Literally. It's light, it's nasty.

[B]

It's nasty, nasty, nasty. But it's just like, who fucking cares? I think that people take themselves too seriously. And I'm done.

[C]

Okay, we'll start with that one.

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Oh, my. That's one of mine.

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That's yours. That's one of yours.

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That's one of mine.

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Okay, I'm gonna start with. I'm gonna start there. Okay, guys, so one of mine is specifically. Let me read it. I said being aesthetic. Okay. And let me. And let me continue this.

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Say what you said on Close Friends the other day. Say what you said on Close Friends.

[B]

Okay. What did I say? I'm trying to think because I did I take two.

[C]

You were talking mad shit.

[B]

I was. Oh, that's what I did. I go, should I be shady?

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Do it.

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Okay, whatever.

[B]

It's a podcast.

[C]

Okay. Or they'll clip it and broached your ass.

[B]

What?

[C]

I said, go ahead.

[B]

As I go. All the girlies that get rode pr. And I'm talking very specifically, like, there's specific girlies that get it. And I'm not talking about us.

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Never. It could never be us.

[B]

I'm talking about when the girlies get it and they're like, today we're gonna try out the road bronzers.

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You can't even do it. You're like doing it. You have too much personality.

[B]

It's like keeping out of me.

[C]

Still too much personality. Less. Less.

[B]

You guys, today we're using the road bronzer sticks. I'm so excited that we're trying this today.

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That was better.

[B]

Yeah, but they're so beautiful.

[C]

Yeah, right?

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They're so beautiful.

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Use their beauty.

[B]

They're beautiful and they're stunning and they're actually fun to watch in an aesthetic way. I get nothing from that.

[C]

Yeah. Personally, the cup is not filled.

[B]

Like, my cup is not filled. I Do fear that I need more from the people that I watch. The people. Just everything in every aspect. So for me that's just one thing that I. Sometimes I think it's so weird that creators and influencers use their beauty or the way that they look as their only thing that they have.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And they don't give personality and they don't want to talk about like things or show anything because they're so obsessed with the idea of being pretty.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Does that make sense?

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It's boring.

[B]

It's boring and I get so bored of it. And like that's one thing that I wish influencers wouldn't do. And I wish that they would just kind of let themselves be beautiful. Because you can be beautiful and you can be funny.

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You're even more pretty when you are funny.

[B]

Right here. Stunning. Because you're funny too. That's what I'm saying. Like it makes you. It just elevates who you are.

[C]

It does.

[B]

To just another degree. Because you don't take yourself too seriously.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's like it's important to take yourself seriously in aspects. I'm not saying not to take yourself seriously at times, but to take yourself so seriously that you can't show personality in a review.

[C]

It's really weird. We're gonna be safe. You know what? Someone pissed me off the other day. This, this will go in the cup because it goes right under. They have an aesthetic page. But they made a funny tick tock and it was a voiceover tick tock and it was funny.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And they were being silly. So they posted it on friends only on TikTok because they were like, it doesn't go with this aesthetic. It's too funny. It doesn't go with the aesthetic of my page and that annoyed me.

[B]

Annoying. That's annoying.

[C]

Oh my God.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[C]

What do you think is you're not going to get on the road brand trip if you're, if you do a funny. If you do make sense.

[B]

So. And I think that like that even like feeds into like, I don't know, like even brands seeking out like the boring girls. They do and they almost in a way like they do because they just see them as being pretty and they're almost like a billboard. They don't talk. It's almost like model esque and it's like brands I feel like I've seen especially like higher end brand stuff like that will work with these like quiet, pretty girls and then not work with the pretty girls that have personality.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

In a Way. And I see and it just like, to me, to me, I think that it's annoying and I think it's corny. But at the end of the day, brands like it, people like it, they have following for a reason. You know, people enjoy watching it and watching the aesthetic of it. And maybe, you know, I always like, try to think. I'm like, okay, I might be like thinking this is corny or whatever, but what if people are looking at it and they're watching and they're thinking like, oh, this is bringing me calmness, it's bringing them peace because they're not doing the most. Yeah, yeah, maybe in a way it's like, you know, there's creators that are like manic, that are like, you're like, like you're watching, you're like, you know what I'm saying? And then there's creators are just like, let's just get ready together.

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Yeah.

[B]

And it's like.

[C]

But it almost like acting sometimes because, like it is.

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I know people in life that are

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real life, they don't even act like that. So it is a little odd.

[B]

It's very odd.

[C]

It's very.

[B]

That's actually a huge puppy of mine. Is also when creators I know in real life act completely different in their content.

[C]

Yeah. Than in real life.

[B]

Huge, huge pet peeve of mine as

[C]

well because it feels like a facade here. Yeah.

[B]

So you're a fake ass bitch. Great.

[C]

Danger. Danger. One thing that really, really, really annoys me with across the board of everyone online is whenever they have a story or something, they're going to say, but they're trying to get their tick tock to one minute to get paid for fun. So they make it very wordy. So they'll be like, right now I'm going to tell you the best way you can benefit your help and the best way you can benefit your help right now that I'm going to tell you and I'm going to break this down in one simple step and this is going to be the best way you can benefit your health and then.

[B]

So extending the time.

[C]

Yes. Because they're trying to extend the time. But my point is there are different ways to extend the time. By creating more useful information.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Instead of just saying it's three times in the beginning and then we're 60 seconds in and you haven't told me anything.

[B]

I. Oh, you're pissed.

[C]

Oh, I'm not even annoyed. I'm pissed.

[B]

No, yeah, I was like at that point, you're not annoyed.

[C]

And I know what You. I know you're in the creator fund, and I know you get it. Hit the 60 seconds.

[B]

You want your 24.

[C]

But, yeah, you want your 24, so do it by creating more useful information, not run on sentences. How about that?

[B]

I like that, Laura. I didn't even think about that, but that is a huge.

[C]

Like, I'm scrolling. Like, what? Really? What? Am I really rolling my eyes?

[B]

Yeah, like, actually continuously. Like, actually roll your eyes. I'm pissed that I honestly would roll my eyes as well. Like, that's stupid.

[C]

I don't even want to know your fact by the end of it.

[B]

Oh. Because at that point, you're just like. Well, now you're just trying to piss me off.

[C]

Yeah. Don't care anymore.

[B]

Now you're just playing games with my face. Let's see what I have. Okay. I want creator to stop sucking brands.

[C]

Oh, my God. I thought you were gonna say something crazy. Really?

[B]

You have to, like, tell me later what you thought I was gonna say. So let me elaborate on this, because there's a story I heard recently, and it kind of annoyed me, and I was like, that's, like, stupid. As a. As a creator, it's stupid because the thing is, we are creators, we're influencers. We do this for a long time. We have to respect ourselves.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's important. And it's to make sure that if you take yourself seriously as a creator, as a content creator, then other people and other brands, I genuinely feel, would take you seriously as well. Right. So, for example, I knew about this one creator who got this campaign, and that campaign just, like, somehow went away. It got canceled.

[C]

But it never happened in a great way.

[B]

No, it was canceled in a negative.

[C]

It was like a negative way for the influencer.

[B]

Yes. So it was a negative thing for the influencer that they got out of the campaign. Like, the brand kind of just like, booted them. Completely. Completely booted him. And it was, like, kind of embarrassing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was. And honestly is like, a situation where it's something worth to be upset over.

[C]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

As the creator. Yeah, it happened to me. I would be very upset is what I'm trying to say.

[C]

Especially in the way that it happened to.

[B]

In the way that it happened.

[C]

Not great.

[B]

Yes. I'm not going to, like, blow them up, obviously, but, like. Like, it's a shitty situation. So I was like, that sucks, dude. Like that. It is what it is. Two days later, that creator posted a full review on the product that they were gonna be on the campaign for raving about It. And I literally was like, so you're telling me that this brand just did you so dirty, just rotten nasty, and you didn't feel the need to maybe, like, not review that one thing this one time because you just want to be in the next campaign so bad.

[C]

It made me feel when I saw it. I was like, oh. I was like, I can't believe they're, like, gonna do multiple videos on this product that they just got, like, the boot from. But people the public doesn't really know,

[B]

probably doesn't know at all.

[C]

So I was like, are they trying to get back in good graces for a brand when they didn't do anything to the brand to begin with? Weird behavior?

[B]

See, that's what I was thinking. Like, I was trying to get into their. In their mind, right. I was thinking, okay, are they thinking, okay, I'm going to try to suck the brand's dick so that I can work with them again in the future? And, you know, this time it didn't work out because of what happened, some situation, so maybe the next one I'll get. So part of me thinking that, like, okay, maybe you're like, kind of like playing the long game in that way where you're trying to do that. But I still, in my mind, maybe there's like something attached to it where it's like, I think that at a point you have to, like, look inwards. It has some dignity when it comes to that. Because we obviously, when we're doing branded partnerships and work, we are working for the brand. Right. Like, we're working with them, we're working for them. But it's important that you have your own dignity to be able to say, you know what? That didn't work for me and you did me dirty. So I'm not gonna promote the. Out of this product that I was gonna be part of the campaign for, and now I'm not.

[C]

Yeah. And it's not important. It's not even. Like, I'm not. I'm gonna now trash this brand. Hell no.

[B]

No.

[C]

See, that's the wrong way to go about it. But it's like, I'm not gonna. Because they did me really nasty behind the scenes.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And, like, I deserve better than that.

[B]

I guess it's about deserving more. And I think that when you've been doing it for a long time and you have this thing where it's like, no, you know what you're worth and you know your value, and it's not right to be treated unfairly just because the Brand has the money. You have to be able to be like, no, I'm not going to let this brand, this entity, this thing run me down and run over me just for the sake of a check.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think it's just really important to kind of stick up for yourself. And I want more creators and influencers and people like that just to stick up for themselves.

[C]

They make it better for everyone. Because I will say, like, the way our industry influencing works, like you make money through sponsorships. I don't think there's any secret there.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And so brands have a bit of like a dictatorship over influencers and reviews and how what influencers can and can't do because they kind of are able to dangle the carrot of a potential partnership.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And it's like you have to take the power back because, like your social media is your owns, not the brands.

[B]

Exactly. And I think that's super important too. It's like you cannot be their puppet all the time. Yeah, I'm sorry, you just can't.

[C]

You can't be the puppet.

[B]

You can't be the puppet. You cannot be like. Because at the end of the day too, you're doing yourself and your audience a disservice too. You're doing both a disservice because you're taking yourself not seriously. You're letting a brand walk all over you. And then essentially, because you're, you know, got over, your audience doesn't know that. And so you're thinking you're just trying to sell a product because you just love it so much, but you really just got over and the brand is like doing you dirty.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You're still trying to sell it.

[C]

It. Yeah.

[B]

So there's just so many aspects of it and it's like a lot of, you know, hearsay and things like that. And it's nuance. It's a nuanced conversation. But I just think in general, I think more influencers and creators should just like try to take themselves more seriously, you know, and not let you get run down by the employee, like in the. The government, the brands.

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and fees extra initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes me slow when network is busy see terms mine is my next one is okay acting when influencers act shock after they over shared and then people have questions or people have opinions, they have questions, they have comments they want to say you're the one that over shared. You're the one that told all your information to the Internet and you're gonna act really brand new or mad or mad when you don't like what people have to say. I've said this so many times if you don't want the opinions of all the people out there, whoever this is going to go out to if you don't want their opinions then don't talk about it 100 but don't get mad. So you let's say I air out all my laundry online and then people are calling me out or saying you know parts of the story or don't like this and that about it. You can't get mad. You can't be like, going off on your audience and chewing people out in the comments whenever you're the one who

[B]

chose to over share 1 million.

[C]

I say all the time, I see

[B]

all the time too. It's actually like a huge, like, that's very normal. People almost get upset because they shared something. And so people, because they have an audience, they care about them and they actually, like, want to know what's happening, what's going down, and they won't say anything because it's like, oh, why do you guys deserve to know? Babe, you shared it.

[C]

You shared it.

[B]

You shared, like that information. Like, you made that a thing. And I do obviously believe in this parts where it's like, you know, at a point things should be kept private and, you know, keeping things themselves. And that's a choice, right? It's like at the end of the day, like, if something bad happens, you

[C]

don't have to share.

[B]

You don't talk about it.

[C]

That's the thing. You don't have to share it. You know what I mean? And then it's like if you do choose to share it, if you've been online for more than five minutes, you'll very quickly realize if you can't handle it, the kickback, the heat, the opinions, the thoughts of all these other people, then why are you putting it out there, right?

[B]

Because then what's the point?

[C]

Then what's the point? What's the point? What are we supposed to just validate you? And you don't like any kickback at all. It's like you're putting it there. So it's just a choice. You're choosing to put it out there. So don't start, you know, tearing people up when they have an opinion that you don't like on the topic, right? Because it's like, well, hello.

[B]

I mean, at the end of the day too. Like, just because you're sharing an opinion doesn't mean that everyone's gonna agree. And that that's kind of like, you know, what the world is like. Everyone wants to share their opinions all the time. And if you don't want to see someone else's opinion about it, just don't talk about it.

[C]

Don't talk about it.

[B]

It's really not that hard.

[C]

If you can't handle that, you can't handle an opinion. There are several things that I don't talk about and do not take from my personal life and do not put online. And then no one will ever know because I want that to be My private life.

[B]

Right.

[C]

I don't want to handle the opinions of other people. So it's that simple.

[B]

I'm the exact same way. If I don't want to talk about something, I don't want to have a gazillion opinions about something.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm just not going to talk about it. It's really not that hard. But then there's things I really want a lot of opinions about, like reading or books or like even working out things I'm like, yeah, give me opinions on things like I want to hear because then it helps my own like knowledge progress. But the things I don't want to talk about, I'm just not talking about them. It's not that hard. You don't want everything online that actually kind of ties into my next one. And this is a funny one because it's not even like, you should stop doing this. It's just something I noticed. Stop posting seven times a day. It's not even that. Like they obviously post as many as you want, but it's funny. So I've been like noticing this trend of like a lot of creators. This is, I mean it's something a lot of creators are doing for years now. This is like five years of strong. There's creators that post like seven times

[C]

a day, literally every day.

[B]

Every single day. And the reason I say I'm like, you should probably like not do that is because what happens when you get burnt out and you're tired? What happens when you're like, I can't actually post that 7 that day. And the platforms punish you because you didn't feed the algorithm because you've been giving them seven a day for a year straight.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and I think the reason I'm talking about is because I think that it's so easy to burn out in a career that we're in because it is a self motivated job.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So if you don't feel motivated one day, you don't have a boss telling you like, hey, you need to get that done. No, you have to like kind of just figure it out for yourself. And especially if people like have, have, oh my God, talk about mental health, like issues in our field. Like if you are going through something and your mental is like going through the gigs, you just sometimes you can't.

[C]

You definitely also, also seven times a day, you're definitely not living much life. You're not gonna tell you that as in 13 years in, if you're posting seven times a day, even to like hit post seven times a day to edit, to like edit that, to even to film that every day. Like, there's no life being lived. There's no way to come up with

[B]

concepts or concepts for seven a day.

[C]

Crazy work. Right.

[B]

I just don't understand. And there's like something like, to be said about like, the grind. And the grind is real. Right. I understand. And like we grinded for years and years and years and we did like the damn thing we uploaded. Crazy. Right. When we're uploading in our biggest, like, height. But sometimes I look back and I'm like, I wish I lived more life.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and I think that's why I talk about it.

[C]

I do too.

[B]

So I'm like, I, I appreciated where the grind got me. But one thing you can't get back is time. And I regret in times where I like, worked too hard and I lost and I miss out on a lot of real life situations because I was so focused on filming or I was so focused on like being man. Anyway, I was so focused creating content or doing contenty things, you know? So whenever I see people posting like seven times a day, I'm like, this is so crazy to me because I'm like, how are you even possibly doing this? And I would hope in the future that you don't like, look back and think like, like I, I regret not living more of my life.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I lived my life for social media. Because there's no way that I'm watching someone post that much a day. And I'm not thinking you're living to post.

[C]

Living to post.

[B]

You're living to post.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You're not posting as you live. You're living to post.

[C]

Post.

[B]

And it's something where I'm like, everything

[C]

you do is to create a post.

[B]

Yes. And that I'm like, grind, baby. If you want, that's what you want to do. Live your life. I'm just saying as someone who has experienced the burnout and who's posted a lot and who's like gone to posting more casually now in comparison is that I, I enjoy my life more now because I'm not living to post.

[C]

I also feel like to be a successful content creator and to build an amazing audience, you don't have to post that much. You gotta post very consistently.

[B]

Yes, totally, totally.

[C]

Maybe once a day even. But I don't think you have to post seven times a day.

[B]

Same. So I just don't.

[C]

Let's see what else I got. Oh, how about influencers that complain every week about the algorithm Listen, every influencer has said something.

[B]

Baby, we've all said something. Laura's ears are on fire.

[C]

Okay? And I want to say something to me.

[B]

Yes. Yes.

[C]

Yeah, but you're not crying to your audience.

[B]

Oh, I see what you're saying. Just in general, like.

[C]

And the thing is, it's okay. I think it's okay to, like, occasionally be like, y' all see. Y' all see my videos. I think that's okay for sure.

[B]

Because then that feels, like, kind of real.

[C]

Yeah, that feels real. I feel like that's okay. I'm talking about the people who are constantly complaining. Maybe it's your content.

[B]

Maybe you still want to watch.

[C]

Change up your content.

[B]

Dude, that is so funny.

[C]

Algorithm complaining. I'm like, so, like, once. Yeah, the algorithm, please. People always whining about the algorithm. I'm like, girl, just. What are we doing? Upload the video.

[B]

You know what? Upload 5 a day and see which ones you know what. And then delete four.

[C]

You need.

[B]

Whichever doesn't stick, delete.

[C]

You need to upload seven times a day.

[B]

Restart it.

[C]

That's going to fix the result. That'll fix it. It. I'm so dead.

[B]

No, but honestly, I could not agree with you more because I. I'll see those posts and it. To me, I just kind of, like, roll my eyes at it in the way of like, oh, my God. Like, you're almost. I. It's not fear mongering. It's not the right word. It's like when you're, like, having your audience, it's like pity virtue signaling. Yeah.

[C]

Or something. It's like pity.

[B]

It's like pity party. It's something about, like, when you're trying to get your audience to feel super bad for you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So they have to engage. Because then if you're not engaging, then it's like you hate. Hate me.

[C]

Also.

[B]

It's weird.

[C]

Like, you can text me seven days a week about the algorithm. That's totally different to me. Yes. Talk to your best friend.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You know what I mean? That's different.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And I just might and I will. But, like, complain to your audience. I feel like you're trying to get, you know, pity. Pity.

[B]

You are. It's literally trying to be. You're trying to create your own pity party.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, almost like an echo chamber of, like, your own, like, sadness about, like, the algorithm. I do think that's really, really weird. And it's corny. Like, you don't need to do every week. Once in a while, like you said, Once a year, Twice a year. Go ahead, give it a little one too. Be like, it's. I'm annoyed.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Every week.

[C]

Every week. The constant is getting on my nerves.

[B]

Don't piss me off. This one I've talked about before, but just like something else. I always like to write, to reiterate, because I just think it's so annoying when people lie on Tick Tock Shop and you get got because you buy those things.

[C]

The product.

[B]

The products. When I bought. I bought many a thing on Tick Tock Shop and I have been got fiercely because they're just lying. I've been got because people are just literally lying. And this is not even something that just like a creator thing because there's anyone can like, technically post on TikTok shop. So it's like when you're watching. Let's say you're watching a TikTok shop video. Okay, is this a reputable source? Is this a stranger? Is it like, do you know anything about them? They're talking about this. I don't know, some product that they, like, should have more knowledge about. Like, let's say it's a skincare item or something. Makeup up. Let's say it's a makeup item. Okay. Let's say it's a shimmer shadow. But their makeup looks like.

[C]

You don't trust that they begin sales too.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. No, they do, but I'm saying, like, I've been got by things because you're like. And I'm like, this is nothing. Like you said that it was.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And I think that is something maybe because again, I've been creating content for so long that I've like. And I've done sponsors, I've done things and I've always, like, said, like, I like something and I'm being honest about it. And that's like, I'm just putting my name on that because I feel like your word is who you are as a creator. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I think it's important that when you're doing that and when you're creating content like that or when you're seeing it to, like, be honest about your experience and don't just do it for the, like, the sake of getting that, like 10 cents per dollar on your commission. Your commission. And I think that's just like. Like one of those things where I see it, I've been got so many times and I'm like, why did I even trust this person's opinion I don't know anything about them.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But it popped up on my feet, so I bought it.

[C]

Yeah. Because it looked clicky.

[B]

It looked clicky.

[C]

You know, now it's like they have it set up on TikTok shop, where it's like on anyone, any one step by too. It's so easy not to have to be an influencer. You do not have to have a following. Anyone can make content to sell stuff through Tick Tock Shop. And so they do, obviously, because they want to make money, but it gets

[B]

real hair because you don't know anything about these people.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And the thing is, for example, there's been times I don't know this person is at all. But let's say it's like an older woman. She's 50 and she has a color corrector. She's like, it just helps with my fine lines a lot. I. I'm more trusting because she's an older woman who's 50 and she showed the product and it helped her. Okay. That's different than like a random go

[C]

to their page and they're selling 50 products a day.

[B]

Laura. That's like, that ties into this point. There are creators out there that all they do is post 20 times a day. And this Tik Tok Shop videos.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Every day, all day. And all they're doing is holding it up and being like, this is this and this is what it does.

[C]

Yeah. All day. Just trying to make commission.

[B]

Trying to make commission. That's like all they do every single day, all day.

[C]

Those is like, they're really good at getting a clicky video. But you have to be careful.

[B]

You have to. Because the thing is, at the end of the day, do you really think the people that do 25 videos a day.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Are testing every product?

[C]

Right.

[B]

Don't piss me off. Like, that's literally crazy to me. So, like, to me, it's like, I feel like a lot of creators have integrity because they've built their audiences off of, like, who they are as people and, like, their integrity. So random strangers that are doing TikTok shop, I don't trust that.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I saw this. I was trying to sell another 13 dupe. Another 13 dupe. I'm like, oh, I want to. I want to try it. But I looked at him and I saw what he was doing. I saw the comments and I was like, I'm not buying that from him.

[C]

So I got duped. Actually, you just reminded me they always sell like these Dubai fragrances on there. So I went to Amazon to Buy the fragrance that the girl was talking about. So I was, like, trying to read more about it and stuff. And I ordered it. Smells like. It smells so cheap. It's like water in a bottle.

[B]

Stop.

[C]

No, I'm not kidding.

[B]

And I knew because he looked sleazy. He looked sleazy. He was selling another 13 dupe, and the packaging was the same. It was. But the sticker was so. It just like, all of it looked cheap as. And I was like, the algorithm must know I love another 13. Like, that's like my signature fragrance, right? So I was like, oh, maybe like, I can try this one just to see, like, what it's giving in comparison. I love to see, like, dupes for things. I looked at him and him selling his little thing. He's like, you guys, I love 13, and this is such an amazing dupe. And I literally, like, no, it's not. I just knew he. I just felt like he was lying.

[C]

Did you buy it?

[B]

No.

[C]

You knew?

[B]

I knew. I just felt it. I literally was like, he's a lying ass bitch. I knew he. I knew it wasn't the case because also, another 13 is one of the hardest fragrances to do in the world.

[C]

I love when you say lying ass. I think it's so funny because it's the truth. You've consistently said lying ass for 10 years that I've known you. That's a consistent line that you will hit people with. And it's one of my favorites.

[B]

I'm glad you noticed that, because sometimes I think it's a stim. I don't realize I'm saying it.

[C]

It's so funny. It's like 100%.

[B]

Not thinking about it.

[C]

100% laying ass bitch. How about when an influencer says I don't care, and then follows up with six videos commenting how they fucking care how much they care. You can say what you want. I don't really care.

[B]

I don't give a fuck.

[C]

But then they're gonna read to film every single person that says something.

[B]

Okay. Do you know what's really funny about this, Laura? Is that I feel like there's moments even in my real life, I'll be like, well, I don't give a fuck, and I care you. And I'm literally raging inside, and I'm almost like trying to lie to my myself.

[C]

If you say out loud, yes, you care.

[B]

You care. So I'm sorry, like, if you're saying like, well, I don't really care. Yeah, you care.

[C]

You care.

[B]

So it's like, baby, at the end of the day, lock in.

[C]

Cuz you can't.

[B]

Cuz you care. And you need to figure it out.

[C]

You're following up on every hate comment. You don't care, baby, you can't.

[B]

I don't even really care.

[C]

But we are going to address everything that's been said. But I don't care.

[B]

But I don't really care.

[A]

Liar.

[B]

Baby, you care. And that is okay because you're human. That means you care. But at the end of the day, instead of like trying to be like. And I don't really give a.

[C]

Just own it. Be like, I care.

[B]

You know, I'm pissed.

[C]

You're. I'm pissed.

[B]

And do you know why I like that more? Because it feels really real.

[C]

Because it is real.

[B]

Do you know who I really like? I'm a huge fan of hers.

[C]

Who?

[B]

Ken Yurich.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Because she will literally talk about reddest.

[C]

Wait, what'd she say?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Like about the redhead,

[C]

that little ginger bit.

[B]

Okay. Literally she will come on and be like, I care. And I think that's why I like her because she's not the head. That's like. Well, I don't really give a. Like, whoever you guys can do whatever you want. Like, she'll literally come on and be like, I'm going through the game.

[C]

Her and Bobby broke up.

[B]

I saw. And I'm devastated.

[C]

You think so?

[B]

I'm fully convinced. I'm fully convinced they're gonna get back together. We're gonna be fine. They've been on and off a gazillion times. I'm in the lore. It's so young that love is young.

[C]

So young.

[B]

But like, that's an example of something. Like I really just like, I like watching her because she's beautiful coverage. You know what? Let's just DM her.

[C]

Let's DM her. Ken.

[B]

Ken Yurich, come on. She's in New York. Which makes it a lot harder. But that's like a perfect example of someone that is beautiful and funny. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. I like a beautiful girl who has personality.

[C]

Christina Kirkman. Oh, it's another one. Beauty and funny and got a six pack.

[B]

And she got a six pack. And she smokes.

[C]

It's like, still got the pack. Leave some for us.

[B]

Dead ass. Like another one that I can watch her and be like, I'm just happy. Like, I feel like kin.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel kinship.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Seeing someone that I actually enjoy watching the has personality. That's also beautiful. I watch them and I. And I really.

[C]

It's rare.

[B]

I really.

[C]

You sure do. I'll let you have that. Huh? I'll let you have that.

[B]

I was like this.

[C]

I know. You're like, am I going to get that? No, I'm going to give that one to you. I'm going to give that one to you.

[B]

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[C]

Okay, I have one more okay, period.

[B]

I literally just finished my. My last one.

[C]

One for the fake morning routines that start at 11am and this is my problem with them because they've been going on for years and years. And then you go make a matcha or coffee and then you go to Pilates and pretend to work out and then you pretend to answer email that you're not really answering. And then you go walk your dog that you've never walked before. And then you come home and pretend to open PR that you haven't Opened. Yeah. I'm like, okay, we've seen it a million times. My issue is, is that if, like, one or two people want to do that fake routine, great, great. But my problem with it is that everybody does it. So people think that that's trendy. That's what it is that you want to see my morning routine. Psych.

[B]

Nasty.

[C]

No, it's nasty. It's nasty. Yeah, you. That's a. It's a real morning routine. But people think that's what all influencers do.

[B]

Like, that is an aesthetic.

[C]

Like, that's all we do.

[B]

All we do is just get up

[C]

and then do the.

[B]

I have. I have some returns for Sephora, so

[C]

we're running errands today.

[B]

No, my favorite. My favorite is when creators go, you guys have, like, the longest day ever. And it's literally like nails, nail.

[C]

It's going to. Always grooming.

[B]

It's grooming.

[C]

Have to get my hair done. I'm like, you realize that's not.

[B]

It's luxury.

[C]

That's a luxury. That is not work.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Getting nails.

[B]

So much work to do today.

[C]

Getting a spray tan. That's not work. Getting your brows done. Yeah. It may be annoying at times. It's a luxury.

[B]

It's a luxury.

[C]

It is not work. But I don't. You know, then they just like to say, oh, that's all influencers do. No, it ain't.

[B]

It ain't the. It truly is.

[C]

How we doing? That's not what they're doing. No one's doing that. That's not what they're doing.

[B]

No one. That is. That is for the aesthetic.

[C]

That is for the.

[B]

Again, it goes back to my aesthetic thing. That is for an aesthetic. It's not for reality.

[C]

If you like to watch that for fun, love it.

[B]

Great.

[C]

Get down with it. I've even watched a few for fun. But just know it's not real.

[B]

It's all facade. At the end of the day, you have to remember that things are for entertainment purposes.

[C]

They are for entertainment.

[B]

They're not for reality. They are not fun.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And things like that. Like an influencer morning routine. The aesthetic ones for fun.

[C]

For fun. That's a fun watch, not a real watch. Just so we're clear. So don't put that on my name, baby. You slept through the routine. You should post a morning routine. Should you wake it up.

[B]

My routine would be so stupid. It's because it'd be actually the same, like, basically every single day. And. And it's very specific. It's like, I get my Little protein bar. My Alani go to the gym. I actually do do those things.

[C]

But you do that in the afternoon.

[B]

I do that in the afternoon. Like, I don't wake up in the morning.

[C]

What would morning be?

[B]

What morning.

[C]

Let's do 7 to 11.

[B]

7 to 11. I'm asleep at 7. I don't wake up till, like, 9:30. And you know that.

[C]

And what are we doing? 9:30 to 11? It's an hour and a half.

[B]

Staying in bed for half an hour.

[C]

See, that's real. And playing on your phone.

[B]

Playing on my phone till probably 10.

[C]

I know that around 10 I'm like, half the day is done.

[B]

For a Virgo. Yes, for a Virgo it is. Half the day is done. So I get up and I go, what the fuck am I gonna do? You too.

[C]

You too.

[B]

So I get up, go wash my face, and I just put gym clothes on automatically. Because I have this thing in my mind where if I know I'm gonna put gym clothes on, I'm probably gonna go. Even though there's times when I'm like, I don't want to go. Like, I'm not feeling it. If I put the gym clothes on, I'm like, why have to commit while you're doing it?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know? So from the 10 to 11, I finally, like, end up getting to the gym and finish that around, like, one o' clock clock. The day is done and the day starts.

[C]

It's done.

[B]

The day starts at 1.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I like to wake up, eat breakfast if Tyler hasn't fed the cats, Feed the cats. I do give all three of my cats kissies in the morning. So I do give them, like, a little time of love and then run seven miles.

[B]

Oh, okay. Now we're at the aesthetic routine. Here we go.

[C]

No, I do. I. I'll either do my trainer, do a workout or run typically when I wake up. But sometimes I have a nighttime workout. So if not, I go straight to my laptop. Yeah, straight to my laptop. Straight to that email.

[B]

Her opening the Gmail app.

[C]

Yeah, that's right. Remember it? Last episode?

[B]

I remember. Oh, that's like, first of all, crazy. One, two. I'm not surprised because you are an emailer.

[C]

I'm an emailer.

[B]

When she gets back to an email, like, if I get to an email before Laura does, I'm like, what the fuck did I just do

[C]

that? You're an elite employee.

[B]

Truly.

[C]

Because someone will email me and Mandy, they'll put us in the same email, and I'm always within 30. And then Mandy gets a text. Manny, check that email.

[B]

You want to know what it's like having a type A friend as a Virgo bestie? She goes, hey, Manny, so why don't you go and check that email that they sent us about 36 minutes ago? And I'm like, I don't want to check it right now. I'm at the gym. That's literally. That's her right now.

[C]

You know, we need answers.

[B]

Yes. So what are you thinking about that? I don't. I haven't thought I would thought this morning. Yes. Type B. Type A. That's what it is.

[C]

It is so hard to be me in that head.

[B]

It is in that head.

[C]

So scary.

[B]

I think that's all we have.

[C]

But honestly, that's all people do. Pissed me off. So. It wasn't that.

[B]

There's way more.

[C]

You're like, no, there's more.

[B]

There's more. If I had more time to think.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

To really ponder, it would have been a wrap.

[C]

Yeah. But we got the girlies today.

[B]

We got. We got them together. Tell us what you. You guys, you have to tell us one thing.

[C]

What we do pisses you off. What do we do?

[B]

I'm not inviting that. I want to know if there's something that a creator will do or, like, influencer, someone that you watch, potentially us. Like, is there something that you watch that you're like, girl, that's just, like, so corny and annoying like that you see it and you're like, please. Are they part of ones that we've talked about? Or they're like, another way. I want to, like, know other ones.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm curious of what thing, because a lot of yours, I'm like, they fall

[C]

into all got make sure we ain't doing them.

[B]

Gotta make sure we're not doing them.

[C]

Gotta make sure.

[B]

The ones that you did said, I don't do any of those.

[C]

I don't feel like I do any of them. Probably do. We probably do. I don't give a. Manny. I don't give a. I don't give a. And then me getting mad.

[B]

They're commenting like, you do you do that?

[C]

I mean, being mad.

[B]

I don't give a.

[C]

Okay, that's it for today's episode. You guys be sure to share this podcast with your best friend.

[B]

It's funny.

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You have to share it with a person you love.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And give them a laugh.

[B]

Please do. We're gonna go watch Love Island.

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Happy Full Friday and.

[B]

Happy Full Friday. We love you guys so much. I will catch you guys in next week's episode.

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Bye.

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