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Laura
The uglier you go to bed, the prettier you wake up. Athletic. I believe that.
Manny Mua
And I go to bed. Hideous.
Laura
Oh, I do too. Hideous.
Manny Mua
Hidden, you guys.
Laura
Damn, Manny, yours was so deep, I lost my.
Manny Mua
I'm sorry.
Laura
Welcome to your favorite podcast. It's full coverage with your host, Laura.
Manny Mua
Lee and Manny Mua.
Laura
Hey, hey, hey.
Manny Mua
Hi, you guys.
Laura
What's going on? Episode two of year, as promised, we are going to be doing toots and boots, ins and outs.
Manny Mua
Ins and outs of 2024 and ends for 2025.
Laura
Things we're leaving in 2024 and things we want to focus on more and bring into 2025 will be the theme of today's episode.
Manny Mua
I'm excited. I feel this will be like a really good one, a really insightful one, hopefully. I mean, for. We would hope. We would pray. We would pray that it would actually be insightful in. Good for y'all. But it's that we thought it'd be fun to just kind of ring in the new year like this. It just kind of like started off in a strong note, you know, kind of like very vision board esque.
Laura
Sorry, I'm looking at my peaks and pits for the.
Manny Mua
Oh, yeah, no, I know it well. I know it well. Maybe we should look at mine that I wrote down as well. Baby, let me tell you something. If we don't write some more pizza pits down, they will be gone. They're gonna be in these heads still. They're not actually. No. I remember right now. I remember right now.
Laura
Do you?
Manny Mua
I'm gonna do. I think I'm into my pit first.
Laura
Give it to us.
Manny Mua
Okay, so I started playing this new game called Marvel Rivals, right? It's like a player versus player game and you play like in lobbies of six people. Against six people.
Laura
Do you have to be live?
Manny Mua
Yeah, you don't. You don't have. You don't have to be talking. Like, if you don't want to, like, that's really fine. They just have, like, a live chat option where you can voice and you can talk to, like, especially if you want to, like, coordinate to, like, do something versus the other team. You know what I mean? So the other day I was, like, in the lobby and, like, I put my, like, my voice chat on. I was like, sure, whatever. I was playing with one of my friends who's also gay, and we were playing and we were the supports, right? There's, like, different types of supports. There's, like, shielders and there's, like, damage dealers. So we were this. I swear, all the gays love to be a support. They love to heal. I don't know what it is, but I'm one of them, and I love a little healing moment. So I'm doing that, and we're like, oh, my God. The DPS is like, they're not doing, like, the best. And we're talking through the open mic, but then the dps, like, comes on. He's like, what do you mean the DPS isn't doing good? So starts, like, kind of going in on us. And we were like, oh, just like, you guys weren't doing your job. And they're like. And then they started getting so insanely, like, homophobic, like, in the chat. And they were like, you guys sound like you get any pussy. And I literally was like, yeah, I don't.
Laura
I don't actually want that personally, baby.
Manny Mua
I was like, I don't want it. So it was just so fascinating and so weird because, mind you, again, I'm like, young, 30s, okay? Like, I literally, like, I'm not used to this, like, kind of life. I don't. I was never, like, the Call of Duty person. I just, like, want to hop on the game with my friends and play and, like, be competitive and, like, get off, right? Like, it's not that serious for me. So when we're playing with these people that could be, like, young kids who fudgeing knows, they literally, like, so homophobic. So crazy. So, like, aggro. And I'm like, what is going on? Like, is this, like, the. The gamer hetero world that they're just, like, going absolutely crazy? Like, I had said something and they, like, repeated me in a gayer voice than me. Just be like, they mocking me. And it's such a weird, fascinating thing because, like, I love the game, I love playing and I would continue to do so, but I turned off, like, the mic thing, so I'm like, I just don't even want to hear them talking. And I don't want to even like.
Laura
You got out of the LA bubble.
Manny Mua
Yes, the LA bubble was popped. Let me tell you something.
Laura
Like, to live actually. I know, but what is it like to live in a world of homophobic people?
Manny Mua
It's shocking.
Laura
I mean, we live in it, but you don't experience it as much. Like, you can go out to the clubs and restaurants and be like, no one. I'm not gonna hate crimes.
Manny Mua
No, no.
Laura
In la, no one cares. Part of the thing is, I think anytime something is different from someone, like, it's not just like the same. We've seen every single day of our lives on this earth, we naturally don't like it.
Manny Mua
Yeah, you judge, you judge.
Laura
You don't like it. And cybertruck gay people.
Manny Mua
Yeah, no, literally, cybertruck gay people. It's same same vein, but it's true.
Laura
The hateful nastiness comes out.
Manny Mua
It's weird because I, again, like, I also forget that it happens. And, like, I'm literally just hated for the aspect of, like, just being who I am. And it's such a weird thing because I'm not used to it. I'm not used to, like, getting expressed that in, like, a negative way where I'm like, oh, my God, I forget that there's like, a lot of homophobic people. And it's also, like, kind of like, why I feel like I'm very, like, vocal about, like, inclusivity when it comes to, like, men and trans people and, like, even in the beauty space and, like, wanting them to be seen more and wanting that to be a thing because if you see something more, it becomes more normal.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
So I do depend on, like, even, like, like when we were talking about with Dallas and, like, talking, having that conversation about, you know, like, not as many opportunities coming to, like, boys and trans people. It's kind of like, you kind of want. You kind of need those things to be a thing so that people can see more of a different way of life where it's not just the same cookie cutter thing when it comes to, like, every aspect of work. Right. This is just my line of work. So I wanted to show inclusivity in some way, like, or just like, wanting inclusion in some way. And it. We do depend, you know, as gay people to have allies and to have people in different, like, you know, the straight community, heterosexual Community to also ride for us, because we can't really do it all on our own because we're, like, the ones that are, like, the outlier, essentially. So that's kind of why you see, like, a lot of people kind of, like, gays will, like, huddle to themselves or, like, they'll find these own little, like, pockets of community, because it's like, it feels. Sometimes it feels so like the whole world's against you in weird ways when, like, you aren't doing anything to them. So that's how it feels. It feels like the whole world's against you when you're just trying to, like.
Laura
Stay afloat, you know, I've been a part of the gay community. I'm not gay. You've been in the trenches, like, more than just, like, I don't ever walk around going, I'm an ally. Like, trust and believe. I just don't naturally live my life. And I have a lot of people in the LGBTQ community in my life.
Manny Mua
Exactly.
Laura
And I have for so many years that whenever I come across or see such a homophobic person who spews their disgusting hatred, I pity them because of how small their world is and how small their mind is. And chances are those people will never get to experience a beautiful, colorful world. They'll always live in their. Sorry, I'm dealing with allergies and sciences. But they'll always live in their tiny world. And they're small brains and. And. And they'll never. A lot of them. Not all, but a lot of them will never get to experience all the beauty that is out there in their world. And it's really their own fault.
Manny Mua
Totally.
Laura
But I pity them. I do. I don't. I'm not like, oh, I hate them. I'm like, I feel bad for you because of how small your world will always be. Probably.
Manny Mua
I know. And then.
Laura
And that's sad for you.
Manny Mua
It's sad. It's actually really disappointing. And it's really sad.
Laura
And it's like, sure, it's sad for my friends of the gay community, but it's more sad for the people who are that way.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura
And they don't even know that living. They don't. They can't even conceptualize that because of how small they are as a person.
Manny Mua
Oh, for.
Laura
Tiny.
Manny Mua
And no. And then, get this. There's a whole nother aspect of it, of where, as a child, you can come out and you can have your parent hate you so much that they kick you out of their house and they know you so Imagine that has, like, they know better and they still did it. That there's like, these really crazy avenues of, like, just how being gay could be for people and how, you know, the homophobia and the transphobia room runs so deep in America. It's so, so deep. Not as deep as other places. I mean, obviously, like, there's, like, if you're gay in other places yous can be just killed on the spot. You know what I mean? You'll get caught doing gay acts totally. But it's still like, that internalized, you know, homophobia that is rampant still, and it's really disappointing. But at the end of the day, like, I have an amazing community around me, so I feel less affected by it in general. But I have these glimpses where I'm, like, I will get really rudely reminded of how horrible people can be towards my community specifically. And it's, like, towards me or towards, you know, trans people, anyone in the LGBT community as a whole. And I'm like. It's almost like a shock. It, like, jolts me out of, like, my fantasy of L. A or, like, my fantasy of, like, what I've built for myself here. And I'm like, oh, I forget that people are still really quite horrible.
Laura
Makes me feel for the people who don't live in the fantasy, in the bubble, because there's a lot of gay.
Manny Mua
People I know that's their normal. That's the normal. That hatred, that vitriol that they're dealing with, Whether it might be in a small town or even in their own home, is their normal. So it's literally like, what is we.
Laura
Are here on hbo?
Manny Mua
Oh, yeah, we are here.
Laura
Am I correct?
Manny Mua
Yeah, the drag queen show.
Laura
So we are here. It's a really beautiful, powerful show on hbo, and it's where the cameras. Hbo, the show goes into towns where it's not a bubble. You know, it's like Mississippi, Missouri, you know, all these states where there's not a large community, There is a lot of homophobia. And they go in and they do projects with people who are out and gay. But a lot. It's. It's very, very touc. Profound show. But a lot of the people that are gay on this show that they talk to are still closeted and hate themselves to an extent of their gayness because of. They've been brainwashed. So much around them, so much hatred around. They have to hate themselves, been told they can't be themselves. There's even people in the shows like, I'm. I'm not gay. I am a male seeking male, but I don't identify as gay because they are so.
Manny Mua
The word gay is so.
Laura
Yes, they're so suppressed by their surroundings that they can't even identify with who they are. But they are openly gay, but don't even want to be, you know, because of the areas that they're in. I guarantee, you know, if those people were in a bubble in la, they would live a free life. They were flourish. And I even know people, I know people who carry some of that weight, that live in Alabama and in Georgia and that don't live in the bubble and they are gay. And it's a much different gay experience than my LA gay friends, I'll say.
Manny Mua
That a hundred percent. And it's really unfortunate because, like, yes, you want every town to be like LA and New York and Austin and Miami and all these really, really open, accepting places. And that's why I do find it very important that there is a lot of representation in the media when it comes to movies and TV and social media. Yeah, it helps, you know, it helps a lot because it helps normalize that. The whole point of, you know, not finding difference in people is by making things normal. Right. Or constantly seeing it and constantly being put in your face in a way where it's like if you're constantly seeing something, you might see it at first and be like, oh my God, that's so jarring. You see it a 10th time, you're gonna be like, oh, that's just that one thing.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
And it just seems normal, right? So like, that's the whole point of having representation in the media capacities where it's like gay shows or gay movies or gay inclusions and straight things and like just having little like these moments. That's why it's so important. Same with every aspect of people that are so misrepresented. Having people shown helps normalize them in the broad spectrum of things. So it's like, you know, that's why it's, it's like a kind of a constant battle really. You're constantly kind of fighting for equality in some way. And like, and I know me and like, and I'm very privileged in the way of, like, I live in Los Angeles, I'm a man. Like, I know I have all these privileges with me that I carry and I, you know, am aware of. But at the end of the day too, it's like still a minority, still dealing with a lot of just bullshit in my community that I like really want to be a voice for people that Might not have as strong of a voice, you know.
Laura
Uh huh.
Manny Mua
And I want to be.
Laura
That's a lovely thing. Yeah, that's a lovely thing.
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Laura
I'll do my pit.
Manny Mua
Yeah, do a pit.
Laura
Do my pit. Damn Many. Yours was so deep. I lost my.
Manny Mua
I'm sorry. I know it was. Mine was fierce.
Laura
Yeah, it was.
Manny Mua
Mine was fierce. As we trailed.
Laura
That's a good thing, though.
Manny Mua
Yeah, it was good.
Laura
So my pit. I don't. I mean, we'll call this a pit, but type got me mouth tape for Christmas.
Manny Mua
That was the funniest I've ever fucking seen.
Laura
And I'm like, wait. I'm like, is it a show comp? It's just. It's just a good or a bad thing. Does he want me to shut that.
Manny Mua
Up or is it good for your health?
Laura
Is it good for my health? I don't know. I'm also riding in the tails between Is this another stupid trend that we're doing right now? And that we're going to look back at mouth taping and then we're going to look back on and we're going to be like, what in God's name have we done? What are we turning into? Because I know our ancestors didn't tape.
Manny Mua
Their mouths closed to help with your.
Laura
Sinuses, by the way. Also, I just learned about our ancestor and what are they called? Neanderthals.
Manny Mua
Huh.
Laura
I just really didn't know anything about that. And so Aaron's boyfriend has a lot of knowledge about a lot of random Things. So does Ty.
Manny Mua
Huh.
Laura
And the. The subject came up over the holidays and I was like, were they real? And they were like, yes, of course they were real. We. We have their DNA within us. And I was like, what? And Ty's gotten his DNA done and he is partnering. They're all. Almost everybody is to an extent. And he. They said we also have found their fossils.
Manny Mua
Yep. So I'm like, Like, they're actual.
Laura
Like, so what is a Neanderthal? And they said it is like the species of human before us. We are like the second species of human. And they were the first.
Manny Mua
Yes. Which is crazy to me, by the way. Like, to even think about that. That's a thing.
Laura
I don't know. I'm gonna. I'm gonna clarify. I don't know the Bible. Like, I'm gonna tell y'all, I don't know the Bible in and out. I have done a lot of reading of the Bible growing up, but I don't know it in and out. Does the Bible not talk about Neanderthals or would the Bible just kind of like. Listen, forget all that.
Manny Mua
But I. I know biblically, I feel like biblically they don't believe in evolution. Biblically, it's not like, not evolutionary thing. So it's like science.
Laura
It's like science versus like Neanderthal is science.
Manny Mua
Yes. That's going to the science.
Laura
It is not religion.
Manny Mua
No.
Laura
So if you are Christian, you don't believe Neanderthals real.
Manny Mua
I mean, I don't know. Listen, who knows?
Laura
Listen, us, we do not.
Manny Mua
I literally don't know. But I do know that like, that is like a kind of a topic of conversation for like, we found their fault.
Laura
Scientists saying dinosaurs aren't real now, girl, literally. But no, but people like fossil fuel.
Manny Mua
A lot of Christians do not believe in evolution.
Laura
And so we came from Neanderthals. Like, like a Neanderthal is a human evolved, right? Oh, I'm sorry. A human is a Neanderthal evolved.
Manny Mua
Yes, yes, yes. That's what you meant. But then also, like, I do question things when it comes to. Like, so how. Like, so the idea of like, let's say the big bang, scientifically, like, we all started out.
Laura
You're about to activate the Bible and they're going to get your ass. Cuz anytime I have said the word universe, that's gone. Like, girl, you're going to. You're going to. Careful, careful. I'm just saying.
Manny Mua
No, but honestly. No, it's more so like there. It's really a big topic of conversation. Because, like, for example, like, the big bang, right?
Laura
Like, I had no idea this was a topic conversation ever.
Manny Mua
It is. It's not even like that. It's like someone's actively talking about it. But it's like, you know, the size of the coin.
Laura
It's a huge debate.
Manny Mua
It's a debate.
Laura
I did not know it was a debate.
Manny Mua
Yes, it's a debate.
Laura
So it's like all on the same page that there were Neanderthal. Like, we're all like, yes.
Manny Mua
I don't know. Because then how would that work with Adam and Eve? They're fully. They're in full humans.
Laura
Oh, my God.
Manny Mua
So it's like, where do you, like, how do you go from that? They're the first, you know, man and woman ever.
Laura
Then it's like, you guys, I just opened a controversial topic, but it's like.
Manny Mua
Because a lot of people that are Christian don't believe that we can. Tadpoles, right? Where it's like. But evolution from science says that we did tadpoles. Or like, you know, little like microorganisms.
Laura
Oh, okay. An organism. Organism. Evolved over time. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Manny Mua
That's. That's what I mean when I say tadpoles. Organism.
Laura
I'm with you.
Manny Mua
So that's why it's more of a debate. Because it's like, I see what's happening, but I think it's like, you. We can have that conversation. It doesn't need to be like, you're wrong, you're right.
Laura
It turns into, you're going to hell and you're wrong. It always. Listen, the comments.
Manny Mua
That's how we're saying. We're literally just saying that. It's like, oh, that's what the debate is, is we're not even saying that one thing is right or the other.
Laura
I'm just figuring out. They were just talking about.
Manny Mua
Yeah, we're just talking about.
Laura
Because what happened is we were talking about DNA testing, right? And Ty said on their Neanderthal, and I said, what is a Neanderthal? And then both the guys went in explaining this deep explanation. I had a million questions because I genuinely didn't know what the that was. And here we are mouth taping. Neanderthals didn't do it.
Manny Mua
No. And you know damn well that people are gonna be like, you should take that mouth shut.
Laura
Exactly. Oh, yes. They get me all the time, though, because I talk about manifesting in the universe and they all tell me, like, I'm like, my thing is, I. I do believe in God. And. And my thing is I believe in God's universe. And when I say the universe, I think because not everyone believes in God and I'm not here to impress that I think it's just like an overarching what you believe in. Right. And we're all out to believe in differences.
Manny Mua
Totally.
Laura
Right.
Manny Mua
100.
Laura
That's okay.
Manny Mua
That's the way the world is.
Laura
I believe in God and someone doesn't. I do not condemn them.
Manny Mua
No. I'm like, okay.
Laura
And they can be my friend. And I welcome them with open arms. With no judgment. Absolutely. Like I am very open person. And other people just try to be a little more open too. But hey. That's all I have to say.
Manny Mua
I could not agree more. I believe in openness. Not everyone have the same exact walk of life of you. You're not gonna have your same exact experience. You cannot expect them to.
Laura
Exactly.
Manny Mua
You have to be at least able to be empathizing.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
Understanding where other people are coming from.
Laura
Everybody's like it's changed my life. It's changed my life. I'm like, are you all lying to me or did it change your life?
Manny Mua
If everyone's saying that in your dance.
Laura
They would say that they like blew up and then like you see on Tick Tock. But they're also always trying to sell you. I can't believe that. So I turns out can't sleep in it. I tried.
Manny Mua
Okay. And it didn't work. I just can't breathe in your mouth.
Laura
I sound like I smoked 18 packs of cigarettes before I came in here. I did in high school, but malted me. Couldn't sleep in it. So I was like I'll just wear it around the house for like six hours. Can't do that.
Manny Mua
I know that didn't work.
Laura
So I'm struggling with it. Also. I have a question. Maybe some of you mouth tapers can help me. So apparently it's good for your help to bring through your nose. And it's also supposed to help physically pull your jaw out. Which I don't think they have any physical proof of that because I was googling it. So you know, your mouth open by us. You. Your jaw's bat. Huh? But if you're. It's going to pull it forward.
Manny Mua
Okay. And why do we need to pull it forward?
Laura
A sharp jawline.
Manny Mua
Okay. Okay. So we want to keep it kind of like angular.
Laura
Are we doing no lip balm or you know, no lip product before the mouth tape?
Manny Mua
Cuz how is that going to. You can't.
Laura
You can't but no. Go to bed without a bomb.
Manny Mua
I think about the skincare too. I'm like, so wait, so you're.
Laura
And it's the adhesive not disrupting your skin.
Manny Mua
I was like, are you all gonna break out underneath that tape? See?
Laura
Okay, so I have a lot of stuff. This is where I'm getting caught up. I always. If we're sleeping for eight, seven, eight hours, I gotta do the goopy lip balm to make sure it lasts. So, you know, I wake awake and refresh.
Manny Mua
Baby, you're speaking to the choir, honey.
Laura
So I'm like, it's so much lip balm. I put on the thing and it's just like all on my face. So. So what are we doing there? What are we doing with the lip balm? And then second thing is, is the tape not breaking us out? I didn't make it through one night, so I don't. And then the third thing is, can you guys tell me how it's supposed to change your life? I googled and it said there's like definitely health benefits.
Manny Mua
Nose thing.
Laura
I know I do breathe through my nose most of my night cuz I don't wake up with a dry mouth.
Manny Mua
Okay, so that's great.
Laura
I have my invisalign in though. So my mouth is so big. But my. I still breathe in my nose. Like I'm about to sleep at like.
Manny Mua
I also have my retainer in, so I wonder if that I also have to be like breathing through my nose because of the retainer.
Laura
Listen, I just. I'm just very confused by it.
Manny Mua
And I'm confused by it as well.
Laura
Y'all. I linked it. Y'all were all like, link it, link it, link it. So I linked it for you guys. But I also. I'm trying to figure it out myself. So that's my pit. Neanderthals and mouth. Or did they.
Manny Mua
Were they real? Who knows?
Laura
Were they real?
Manny Mua
I really want to do. I want to try it, but I have facial hair, so I don't think it would stick to anything.
Laura
See, that's another new one.
Manny Mua
Can I go from here to here?
Laura
It kind of goes like this.
Manny Mua
I can never do that.
Laura
You're out.
Manny Mua
I'm out, bro. Like, it's not gonna stick to anything. Like, I'm freaking out and I want to try it. But also my retainer. My mouth guard is so big. Like I'm. I'm always left with a little slit my mouth like this.
Laura
The uglier you go to bed, the prettier you Wake up athletic and I.
Manny Mua
Go to bed hideous.
Laura
Oh, I do too. Hideous hit.
Manny Mua
You guys, I'm ugly.
Laura
I got pimple patches and retainers and led. I do red light therapy every single night.
Manny Mua
Yep.
Laura
You supposed to do two round, one round. I do too. I do. Certainly.
Manny Mua
I'm getting every round possible.
Laura
That's right.
Manny Mua
And do you feel like you notice the difference at all?
Laura
I. I think the difference is so.
Manny Mua
Small, it's internal to the difference.
Laura
Yes.
Manny Mua
Also skin underneath.
Laura
There was this woman giving me a facial and she looked close to my age and she was 50. I know, but she didn't look tight. She didn't look like she had work done. She didn't look botox. She didn't look filled to the brim. She wasn't puffy. And I said, why you look that. And she was like, I've worked here forever. I think it's the red light. She was like, it's the red light. She's like, I just did it forever. And I do it forever and like I do it for long periods of time. So it was the red light.
Manny Mua
So it's like more of like a.
Laura
For the future, like preventative, the regeneration of the cells. Yes. So that's more of like the red light.
Manny Mua
That actually makes a ton of sense. Maybe I should get another. I have a mask, but I forget about it all the time, so I should maybe like really?
Laura
I actually have two and I rotate them out because if one dies, I'm able to just go ahead and get the other one while one's charging. That's how serious I am about it. And I have a plate that goes over your chest too. Oh, I'm deep.
Manny Mua
She's a red light girly.
Laura
I don't know about mouth tape, but I'll tell you all day about red light.
Manny Mua
The red light especially. I know, and I know you need like to do like strong red lights too. I know there's like something with like high impact, like red light. Cuz then it's like not doing nothing if you're just using like a little chill red light therapy. So like you need like a certain kind to.
Laura
Actually I use the Dr. Dennis Gross mask, if you guys are wondering. Sent them to me, but they are $500. And then whenever I get my facials, instead of doing the mask, like actual face masks, I asked if I can just do 30 minutes of red light therapy.
Manny Mua
I love that.
Laura
And just lay there.
Manny Mua
And those ones are strong. Those are even stronger than like the house ones. Those are like the crazy intense panels.
Laura
I could do go in there ideally, which I could never do this unless I was retired. But if I could go into the spa and do red light therapy on my face once a week, at least twice a week for like an hour, yeah, I would do it.
Manny Mua
That's preferred.
Laura
If I had that kind of luxury of time, I would do it. That would be on my list. What's your peak?
Manny Mua
My peak? What is my peak? Let me look. See now when we get into the fierceness of our peaks and pits, I forget things. I know, okay, my peak is my sight revamp. So I'm really excited about that. That was something I was like. So we've been working like for a little, a little while now to revamp like Lunar Beauty's website because we're when we started launch six years ago, it's been the same like site since then and we obviously like added plugins and stuff like that. And it's funny because we literally use Shopify and like, I'm a huge Shopify fan. Like we, when we do the ads, I'm like, oh, I love Shopify. So we use that. But we actually did a full blown like vamp on a revamp on the website and you can go in to see lunar beauty.com and it looks like way different. A lot more chic, a lot more just like elevated. At least in my personal opinion. I think it looks really, really nice and just a little bit easier to shop, if that makes sense. Where it's like things are condensed in a better way or feels less like kind of like clustered. But we hadn't done a revamp in six years.
Laura
What a great time. At the beginning of a new year to begin with. A new site, right?
Manny Mua
I feel the exact same way. It felt just like. And it honestly looks so beautiful. You guys should definitely, honestly check it out, see what you guys think. I just think it looks really, really nice and really pretty in comparison. I feel like there's like a lot of like fun. It's interactive. Like you can like kind of like slide things over and you click on things and like little it'll toggle. It's like a cute ass, very pretty version of the site.
Laura
It looks very lux.
Manny Mua
I said to Laura, I was like.
Laura
Look at my site, it's so good.
Manny Mua
So I think it just honestly turned out fantastic and I think it's gonna make it more of a even funner experience for people to shop and like more of an enjoyable experience for everyone. I'm always like thinking about like my customer and stuff too. So I Feel like with the new site. It's just like a new elevated version of of Lunar. So check it out and see what you guys think. I hope you guys like it. I'll leave a link down below, of course. I always do. But let me know what you guys think because we spent some coin on it.
Laura
Honey, that honey, it ain't free. It ain't free, let me tell you.
Manny Mua
Oh, and that burned a hole in my wallet, let me tell you. That kind of the amount of work it takes to do a site revamp.
Laura
Hours logged, locked and clocked in.
Manny Mua
That money was fierce. So I feel very, very proud of it. So I'm happy. It was like money worth spent, well spent. And I feel like we really invested in. In Lunar for the site, so I'm excited.
Laura
Thank you. My peak is I took a master class on vision boards and it was hosted by the author of the book manifest, Roxy. I think I pronounced her last name wrong. New Fosse. Love her. Huge fan and she's coming out with a new book. It's called Confidence. I've pre ordered. You better get into it. I'm.
Manny Mua
Did she tell you about in. In the thingy?
Laura
She did, but she like announced it on her Instagram, so.
Manny Mua
Got it.
Laura
But she talked a little bit about it, but so I took. And I'm gonna share, by the way. A mood board is with pictures. A vision board is with words, so. Oh yeah, I learned that.
Manny Mua
So you did. Vision board and mood board.
Laura
Vision.
Manny Mua
Nice.
Laura
Yes, yes, yes.
Manny Mua
Got it, got it.
Laura
You know what? You can do both. It doesn't matter. None of this matters. These are just like terms. Like if you wanted to do a few pictures, even better. You know what I mean? If you want to add visualize it, that's even more. That's individualizing. That's a beautiful thing. So you can do a little bit of both with words and pictures, but we went through of like how to do them in the best way and like how to go about what you really want. And I thought it would be perfect for today's episode for me to just hit on a couple things I learned.
Manny Mua
Girl, what we're doing today, it's literally perfect.
Laura
So I thought since we're starting the episode, I would read off a couple questions, love. So we're talking today about ins and outs of what are we taking out of 2025 and leaving in 2024 and what do we want to bring with start in 2025. Right. So I thought it would be cool to talk about some questions to Ask yourself about the things you really want. And now professional from a professional. You see, first one is, are you trying to be realistic with the things that you may put on your vision board or write as your goal list or whether it's just all in your head, it's a mental note, Are you trying to be realistic about it? Are your goals only goals that you think you realistically can achieve? Now, for me, I think there's, I.
Manny Mua
I think what about a little delusion in mind?
Laura
I think delusion is so important. I think delusion because I've always say this, you're so much worthy or of things you can't even conceptualize yet. And, and you can't even think about yet. They're so big. But then I think in order to get there about goals, we have to be realistic. So for instance, my goal is to be a fitness girly and maybe within that lose 20 pounds this year, right? So my goal is to go to the gym five days out of the week. If that is a goal you are probably not gonna stick to and that's gonna, that could set you up for failure, right?
Manny Mua
It's not realistic.
Laura
It's not realistic.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura
So I would say set yourself up for realistic goals that you can actually stick to. My goal is to move my body at least once a week. Week. And that's our starting ground, right? And so that is something you can stay true to at least. Come on one out of seven days this week. You can find 30 minutes out of seven days this week to move your body. Whether it's walking, doing a YouTube work or something, a couple sit ups before bed, you know, a couple crunches, whatever that may be, setting up realistic goals and then constantly picking up those goals and, and leveling them up. So, you know, a couple months go by, okay, now I'm gonna try to move my body twice a week. You know, just really realistic goals. But what this is talking about with realistic is not holding yourself back totally. You know what I mean? Like let your, your end goal, like losing 20 pounds this year be a big goal.
Manny Mua
Right?
Laura
But then I always say which, then this goes back to the book Atomic Habit. Setting up realistic goals to get to the big goal, right?
Manny Mua
To get there. Even though the big goal could be something that's like far fetched.
Laura
Yes.
Manny Mua
You have to do little plans, little thingies to get to that big goal.
Laura
There you go, like that and that. And that just sets yourself up for a little bit more of success. Because what happens is everybody burns out. What do they say by the third weekend in January or by February, everybody's burnt off their goals and they're done.
Manny Mua
With them and they're not at the.
Laura
Gym anymore because you've set yourself up with unrealistic goals to get to the big dog. Right? So just say so. That's a little tidbit. Another people, is, is what you want or what you're putting on your vision board something that other people are influencing you? Or is it something you genuinely want? Or is it something the people around you for you, Is it something the people around you are doing so you just want it too? Because they're doing it? Not because you genuinely wholeheartedly want yourself thing for yourself. It's because of your environment and the people around you. It's all the things they're doing. You're just jumping on board and you want what they want. Really ask yourself that. And then you can ask yourself, why? Why do I want this? Then why do you want it? Because other people have it. Do you want it because you saw someone successful habit. Do you want it because you're trying to start a business and this friend has a business and she got it. So naturally you think you have to have it. Why do you want it? So that, that can really come. You know, that question can get really vulnerable because then you're starting to dig deep and you're going, wait, what do I really want? Way yeah, I do want that. Only because my friend got or self.
Manny Mua
Reflection on that one.
Laura
Yeah, there's a lot of self reflection. And so those are some questions to ask yourself. Getting started to deep dive on your cell ph. What do you want? Like if you wanted to start a business, why do you want to start a business? Do you want to start a business? Because other people start businesses and you see they make a lot of money, right? Or you want to start a business because you have a passion project and an idea that's like no other and you're going to change the world, you know, like really ask yourself those wines.
Manny Mua
Yeah. You have your own missions for it.
Laura
Why do you want to lose 20 pounds? You want to live healthier, happier life? You want to look hot? I mean like, like there could be a million different wines. But you really got to be honest with yourself with these questions. Be super honest. Ask yourself the why and do it on your own time. Don't do it with other people. Because I think we can be most honest and vulnerable in ourselves when we're alone.
Manny Mua
Right.
Laura
Our fear of the judgment and the ideas of other people, you know, seeping into your seeping in. So those are some things that were really cool with a vision board. And then you just go at it and you write down all the things you want and they can be the biggest things in the world. Like I want a hundred million dollars. And it said, you know, a lot of things on your vision board will come too. And if some things don't that year, then maybe you didn't grow or weren't ready for those things.
Manny Mua
A hundred percent. Things I feel like, do come into your life when you're ready for them too, in a way. Yeah. Timing is everything. And like, you know, putting in that good do, do that good, that energy, like you will get good things coming back too. You might not think it's the good thing that you want necessarily, but good things will happen in a way.
Laura
Totally. I look back at a lot of opportunities I've gotten now that I didn't get back then. And I thank God all the time, thank God I didn't get this opportunity back then because I would have totally blown it because I wasn't ready for it. I would have squandered ready for it or, you know, good. Thank God these great things came to me now because I'm ready for it. Not this, you know what I mean? To receive it. So timing is everything. It's really, really important too.
Manny Mua
So don't even get down yourself too like, right. Obviously these are all goals and they're like, you know, great things to like achieve for. But if you don't get that goal, that one thing that happens, that's okay too. Like you again, striving for something great is. And it's all the point too.
Laura
You're trying in the universe, trust, trust in the universe and it's its timing and also something important with your vision board and your goals, like to not become obsessive over them. Because what that does is it puts you in a place of low vibration, low energy, just like what do I call a scarcity mindset. Because the desperation comes out and whenever you find yourself in a desperate place, that's whenever you start to live in that scarcity mindset, which I'll talk about a little more but.
Manny Mua
And it your up for like your, the whole, your whole world, every aspect of your life. Like really.
Laura
I can literally trace back multiple times of how desperately I wanted my YouTube career to take off and work out. And I can literally trace back my scarcity mindset and how it led me in areas I shouldn't have gone or things I shouldn't have Done. And places I shouldn't been because of the desperation aspect of that. So I'm like, oh, I can connect the dots there and see, you know, reflect on where I've gone wrong in that mindset.
Manny Mua
So it's just importantly.
Laura
Yeah, it's important to while be passionate about your goals, don't become desperate.
Manny Mua
Yes. Let them come.
Laura
Let them come.
Manny Mua
Let things humble. Work on it.
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Manny Mua
Let's do. Let's do outs. I have like four, like, good. Like, I'm like, yeah, this is definitely, like, out. And I have one, like, funny out that I'm like, oh, my first one. My first one. My first out, 2024 is trying to juggle men. Oh, like multiple at the same time.
Laura
Okay.
Manny Mua
So I feel like I can go on this, like, serial dating phases of my life where I can like, like date like hella for like a month or two and like, really going all these dates and like, really try to do like the dating grind. But then guys will overlap and I'll forget things about the other guys and I'll literally like, kind of be in this like, swirl of men. And I'm like, completely like, enveloped in that. And I'm honestly, like, kind of just tired of that. I would rather like, be a little bit more like, constant at a constant for like, everything. Like, not constantly not wanting today and not constantly wanting to date. I want to be on like a little like more of a wavelength where it's like, like, you know, like, let's say every month. I can go on like maybe a day or every other month a day. Instead of it being like no dates for three months and then turkey and then six dates in one. You know what I mean? Like, I tend to like, binge and purge dating in a weird way. So it's like I feel like the juggling aspect is like, it's too much for me. Yeah, I shouldn't do that. I feel like I'll feel lonely and then I'm like, let me just go on all these dates.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
But then I forget to cure the loneliness, right? I'm kind of feeling this, like, void of, like, feeling like, lonely in this moment. It. But then I'll be like, okay, I'm not anymore. I don't need a day, Right? So I want to be at a.
Laura
Spot fixed your way.
Manny Mua
Yeah, I fixed my little, like, itch that I had where I was. Like, I needed validation in some way, I'm sure. So once that's gone, I'm like, okay, good, I'm good. But I want to get to a spot where I can kind of assess that and be like, no, I don't want to be in this juggling phase of my life. I want to be in, like, a place where I can feel like content with anything that comes my way, like, if I go on a date or not. Like, I want to be content in everything that I do with dating and men in general.
Laura
Wow. So that's why I'm leaving self reflection.
Manny Mua
Literally. I'm leaving the juggling of Men in 2024. I don't want to juggle.
Laura
That's a really good one. Thank you. My first one is scarcity mindset, which I was talking a little bit about. And this is a lot of things. And this changed my life. So I did a lot of self develop. I've done a lot of self development work every year. But the more I do, the more I know. So this year I really let go scarcity mindset because I didn't even really know that that was a thing. And I'm always learning and I'm always willing to share what I learned. Scarcity mindset is. It is what it says it is like it's living in the. There's not enough for everyone. So it's like, let's let me put this way. You've been dying for a new pair of cool shoes, and your best friend comes in wearing the new shoes. You might instantly feel that jab to the heart or that jealousy and that. That's a natural human emotion. Just so we're all clear. But is also living in the world of scarcity. So who's to say that you both can't have a new pair of shoes? Oh, wait, we both can. I just haven't got mine yet, but mine are coming. And just because this person has gotten their new pair, a new pair of shoes is a horrible analogy. Let me. Let me do it better. Let's say you've been dying for this six figure dream job that's gonna pay you out and you work for. For A long time and your best friend just landed big at a job that pays even more. Okay, okay, that's probably better. And, and it hurt. It hur being happy for them. Like, like you may fake it, but naturally you feel that hurt and that hit to the heart and that scarcity there still that job for you out there. And just because this person got that job, they just proved to you that it's a possibility for you. Right. They just prove to you. So it's, it's about, you know, sure, we may feel moments of jealousy, but it's about overcoming them. It's also about, you know, not feeling desperate, obsessive, jealous. The nasty things that we as humans naturally feel, letting those, we may feel them for a little bit, but letting them go and realize, you know what? I'm not going to. I have stopped myself more times this year than I ever have in my life and go, oh, I'm not going to think of that in a scarcity way. I'm going to be super happy for this person. So the next time you're scrolling on social media and you roll your eyes at someone who's one big yet again, go congratulate them.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura
And watch what that does for you because you're gonna let go of your scarcity mindset. And I think we're leaving the scarcity mindset in 2024. Just because other people are winning does not mean you're losing or that you can't win too. Yeah, they're just proving out there right in front of your face, they are proving that it's a possibility that humans can win. And that's how you have to look at it. You have to find ways to look at things, things like that, or else be miserable.
Manny Mua
You know, it really is that glass half full aspect as well of just in general of life. Like if you're looking to be annoyed at something, you'll be annoying. If you're looking to be like, you know, uplifted or inspired by, you can find that too. You can find whatever you're looking for.
Laura
And there's a bonus.
Manny Mua
You'll find it.
Laura
Yes. And there's a bonus with that. You know, once you get out of that plentiful, out of that scarcity mindset and you find yourself in the plentiful mindset, you're. It raises your vibration, it raises your energy, it raises what you put out. And guess what? Things are going to start getting good around you. Things are going to start getting good. I promise you. It's all up here and it's like letting go of that scarcity mindset. So if you're carrying that with you, ask yourself, hold on. And. And it's also allowed me to be very honest with myself in ways where I may have felt that little to the heart, the jab, I never would stop and go, oh, you're jealous of them. And that's why that did that to you, right? You know, because you just live through the emotion, then you get over and move on. But now I'm holding myself accountable and I'm like, oh, I'm jealous of them. Well, what about them makes me jealous? They must have something I want. Well, why do I want? You know what I mean? And then I'm able to figure myself out more rather than just carry the weight of jealousy and being a. And moving on, you know?
Manny Mua
And it's funny because it's like a really natural feeling to feel like an initial, like, jolt of like, oh, my God, why do they have that? And I don't kind of like, thing. But when you assess it and you look at it and you're kind of like, well, why am I feeling this way about something? And it's funny because I'll literally catch myself, be like, like, I'm being a right now. Like, I know I'm being a right now. And like, I just need to, like, have this moment and move on. Like, I just, like, let it go and not let it, like, ruin my day or, you know, affect me in a way where it really just brings me down. It really is important to just kind of like, feel the motion real quickly, assess why you're feeling it, move on. Because then hopefully in the next time you see that, it won't hit you the same. It won't affect you the same way because you've already adjusted or figured out why you might feel a certain way about something.
Laura
Our minds adapt so quickly. So it's not like, like, I don't know, they just adapt really quickly. So you change your mindset. Something you. You're not going to have to fight this jealousy mindset constantly. Eventually you're going to be like, you're going to lose. Start to lighten up on that feeling of being jealous of everything. You know what I mean?
Manny Mua
100%. 100%.
Laura
It'll start to fizzle out a little bit. You all, everybody, every human on earth will always feel a little jealous here and there. But, you know, some it decrypts people and it's more than others debilitating or.
Manny Mua
Stops them from doing things because they're so jealous of someone else doing.
Laura
Exactly. Or they sabotage people, you know what I mean? Or they, they leave nasty comments because they're jealous and they're, you know what I mean? So it's like it, it can really.
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What's your next one?
Manny Mua
I agree my next one is basically it's like unnecessary.
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Manny Mua
Very spending or like shopping for a high. Like, almost like let's say I'm, like, in a bad mood or, like, I'm kind of like, whatever. I'm feeling lonely or if something's, like, happening, I'm feeling depressed, dressed. I, like, let me just, like, open up like, ASOS or something, or like, Sephora, and I'll just, like, spend money. But I'm, like, spending money to feel this, like, literal immediate high when it's like, I didn't really need to do that. Like, I should have just, like, sat in it and done something else and got active and moved and maybe went to the gym or, like, did something else. Whereas, like, I could have felt my endorphins in another way. It's like, instead of being, like, could have been, you know, slightly irresponsible with, like, my money or slightly responsible with something where it's like, I was looking to shop for something to feel happy. But then the thing is, like, once you buy the thing, the happiness kind of goes away really fast. But it's a really quick hit. It's like a quick jolt of endorphins that you're kind of like, oh, my God, like, how sick.
Laura
See, that one goes back to your why, right? Why do I want this? Why do I really want this? If you answered it honestly in the moment, which no one would ever do. Right? Because, like, genuinely, like, I to fulfill something that isn't the shoe and needing a shoe or whatever it may be.
Manny Mua
Right.
Laura
You know what I mean? If you answer your why honestly, because.
Manny Mua
I'm like, I have a closet full of clothes. I actually. I'm actually like, the closet's exploding of clothes. And yeah, here I am like, oh, I want to, like, get that little jacket. I don't have a jacket like that, though. So it's like, but why am I doing that? Like, right, like, why? What's the point? And I think it's more so, like, I'm spending to, like, fill a void of something that could be there. And so in some cases, sometimes I'm like, I need to get something for something, like an outfit for an event. Totally different than, like, aimlessly buying.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
Like, if I'm buying clothes when I have no reason to buy, I'm like, why am I doing that? So that's kind of why I want to leave in 2024. It's like spending when I don't really have to or should to fulfill the void of, like, what? You know what I mean?
Laura
And the thing is, unfortunately, with shopping, I mean, who hasn't bought something make themselves feel better, honey? Who Hasn't. Honey, it happens last very long.
Manny Mua
It's so fast.
Laura
It's so fast.
Manny Mua
So immediate.
Laura
Like, get it? You're saying so quick. It's. Unless it's, you know, not an impulse buy. And it's something you really praised and wanted.
Manny Mua
100.
Laura
And we're talking impulse.
Manny Mua
Like, I'm talking, like, random carts filled.
Laura
Just to make yourself feel good. That high goes down very quickly.
Manny Mua
Not only does it go down quickly, the high. So does your bank account, because you.
Laura
Also put a band aid over what the problem.
Manny Mua
What the problem is. And it's also. You're just spending money like, that you don't have to spend.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
If you fix the problem, you don't spend the money.
Laura
I love that my next one is romanticizing burnout. And that's. I think. I can't.
Manny Mua
How would you describe that?
Laura
I can't speak for every country, but I think America romanticizes the burnout, the grind, the hustle, the go. The go. The do. See, be more, do more, accomplish more. We romanticize that. And then we offer this.
Manny Mua
What a hustler.
Laura
Yes. We praise it. We praise the overworking. We praise the success of overworking. We praise grinding to the ground. Like, we praise that we might romanticize it. We're. Leave that in 2024. We're gonna start living some life.
Manny Mua
100. And, you guys, what's also crazy, too, is that, like, I remember when, like, I went to, like, Spain the first time, and, like, they had, like, those naps in the middle of the day, and I was like, oh, yeah, they.
Laura
Shut everything down because they don't run off capitalism.
Manny Mua
And I was gagged, you guys. I was like, why would they do that? Like, why wouldn't they just stay open? Right? But then I love the aspect of, like, taking a little break in the middle of the day. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is so nice. Like, I actually really like that. And I'm like, they don't. They're not like, America, right? Where they're not, like, running this rat race of capitalism.
Laura
The rat race.
Manny Mua
It's a rat race. And I'm like, they're not even doing that.
Laura
And I'm like, ready, tat tat?
Manny Mua
Y'all take. You guys take breaks every day?
Laura
That's our culture. It's capitalism.
Manny Mua
It is.
Laura
The rat race is our culture.
Manny Mua
Yes.
Laura
It's the American way.
Manny Mua
Or, like, even, like, you know, working on, like, the fragrance I'm working on with, like, France. Right? They'll be so slow. My responses. And I'm like, why aren't you guys responding quickly?
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
People in America tend to be like, a little like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And they're just kind of like, we'll get to you when we get to you. It's fine. And I'm like, no. Like, I'm almost, like, impatient. There's an impatience in America. There's like a literal impatience epidemic in America where it's like, a lot of people have lost their patience. Time is money here, and time is money.
Laura
Oh, my God. In Italy, anytime or in Europe, honestly, you go to dinner somewhere, baby, two hours in, they still ain't brought the damn check. I might. Please get me out of here. Like, they take forever to bring the food.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura
It's laissez. And in America, time is money. You sit down at a table in Hollywood, they say, okay, you. Yep. You have 90 minutes. You have 90 minutes, and we're going to need you to get the fuck out of here.
Manny Mua
That just happened to the other night.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
They were like, you have an hour and a half, 90 minutes.
Laura
And I'm like, because time, honey. And trust me, I got other places to be. I will be spending my money, too. I get it. I get it. I might say less.
Manny Mua
It's the truth.
Laura
I will not hold your table up. Say less.
Manny Mua
Maybe then you're up. You can sit through the whole thing.
Laura
The whole damn night. They don't care.
Manny Mua
That's your table.
Laura
Can I get the check? Baby, I've been here for two hours.
Manny Mua
No, I agree. It's crazy. Like, I'm. I want to leave the cultural differences. Yeah, yeah.
Laura
What if every human on earth. Okay, this is a crazy concept, but I'm gonna throw it out there. What if every human on Earth only made enough money that they needed to, like, just, like. Like, live life? Not all the excess in excess. Not in excess. Not excess. We just made the money, and then we also spent our time living life. All because we would have a lot of extra time because we wouldn't have to work as much. Right. We don't have the extra things. Like, what would. What would the world be like?
Manny Mua
I feel like it'd be more peaceful. Everyone's trying. Well, the thing is, like, not everyone's trying to get more. So then imagine the aspect of, like, let's say everyone having something similar in a way. Then, like, then what's the point of trying to get more of. Everyone is content with having what they have. So imagine, like, the peace that you would feel. So then more peace. That would make it kind of like, maybe even less crime. Who knows? It could be a catalyst effect to.
Laura
A lot that'll never happen.
Manny Mua
No, I know.
Laura
Overuse of the word sorry. And I had to get onto Aaron doing this just because she naturally.
Manny Mua
That's another one of your leaves.
Laura
Yeah, we're leaving that. We're leaving that she naturally, like anything. I'm so sorry. I'm like, stop saying you're sorry. Don't use the word sorry. And I don't mean this in a negative way. I'm just like, you know, be confident in yourself. You're not sorry. Like, if you're like, yes, yes. Say, say, oh, excuse me, I have a question. Not I'm so sorry. You're not sorry. Say sorry when you're genuinely sorry. But it's a people pleaser thing.
Manny Mua
100. I used to say I'm sorry for everything.
Laura
Do not say you're sorry unless you are sorry. Say excuse me, or stand your ground and say, hello, I have a question. And I'm not sorry that I have a question. I'm not sorry. You're gonna have to stop and answer. You know what I mean? It's a, it's like a people pleasing confidence.
Manny Mua
100. As a recovering people pleaser, I could not agree more. I used to say sorry. Even if, like, let's say if I was opening the. If I opened the door for someone or like, they're walking quickly, or like I was running quickly just for someone opening their face, I was like, oh, sorry, my bad.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
Why am I saying sorry? My bad.
Laura
You're not sorry.
Manny Mua
I'm just trying to catch up to the door.
Laura
Yes.
Manny Mua
What are you talking about? Out. So, like, I would.
Laura
They're chasing.
Manny Mua
Sorry. No, they're choosing. So it's like, it's.
Laura
Thank you.
Manny Mua
Would say sorry. Thank you. Or like, let's say if I, like, bumped into someone, I say I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. And I'm like, no, excuse me, excuse me.
Laura
It's an accident, the end.
Manny Mua
Like, there's no, like, it doesn't have to be excuse me, my bad, or excuse me, I'm sorry. It could easily just be like, even though that's so funny. The other day I was walking. I was at CityWalk and I was walking and I was talking to someone and this woman, I guess, like, we had, like, bumped shoulders, like, pretty harsh. Like, we like, hit each other. And I turned around, I was like, oh, my goodness. And I had, like, turned around and she was on her phone and she looked at me, she was Like. And she, like, kind of scoffed at me, and I was like, you're on your phone.
Laura
No, you did.
Manny Mua
Yes, I did. And I literally. I was like, you're on your phone, though. And I kept walking, and it felt so sickening. I was like. But I was like, it wasn't just me who was at fault in that moment where I was like, I should have been looking forward to not talking directly here. But you were on your phone, too. So her to scoff at me, like, no, you can scoff at yourself too, babe.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
No, you also. I was like, you're on your phone.
Laura
Yep.
Manny Mua
So it was. It was a double. It was a double wham. Yeah.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
So I'm not gonna. So. But I. Initially, what I would have done was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
I was like, why am I saying.
Laura
It's like, standing in your confidence of who you are and knowing, like, you're okay. Like, you don't have to say sorry to everyone all the time. Or if you need something that's. That's something that's independent, be sorry about. I feel like we do that too much. And we're leaving the overuse of the word sorry. When you're really have up.
Manny Mua
Sorry.
Laura
You're really remorseful. Use that word sorry. But let's leave the overuse of it for everything. Let's stand our ground in our confidence and all the little facets of our life where we overuse the word sorry too much. Leave it.
Manny Mua
So Canadian of us.
Laura
It's very Canadian of us.
Manny Mua
Mine, my third one is the. What I want to leave it behind is the. Actually, collectively, it's more of a collective thing. It's like the mask for mask. Like toxic masculinity that kind of runs rampant not only in gay. The gay culture, but in, like, every aspect of the word. I think it's something that even I can kind of feed into at times. And I will naturally try to butch myself up for situations. Like, I'll literally, like, Like d. Like, I'll literally just, like, go, like, almost like, shelter. Not shelter myself. Lower myself to fit a standard that I think I have to fit because I'm gay. So I have to be more masculine because I'm a guy.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
So I kind of want to stop doing that.
Laura
Like, I'm kind of across as a femme game.
Manny Mua
No, I don't. I don't.
Laura
So you're like, let me mask up. God forbid they change. I'm super gay, you guys.
Manny Mua
And the thing is, like, I. And I'll catch myself and I'm like, why'd I even butch up for it? Like, what was, like, what was the point of that? So it's something that's like more of an internal thing. Especially, like, I'm just, you know, it's, it's cool to see Gen Z kind of not do that. Yeah, it's really fun. And I'm actually really inspired by Gen Z a lot because they've grown up in different ways. I'm really inspired by them a lot of ways. A lot of millennials and like generations after me, we have this internalized, like, kind of thing that is like constantly really being worked on. I can't speak for all of us. Oh my God. But like, some of us can have a little internalized, you know, based off our upbringing, things kind of going on, trying to like, butch up, up for everyone around you because you don't want to embarrass your family, you want to embarrass your friends. All these aspects of it. I have a lot of that have happened to me and like, I've always tried to, like, adjust myself accordingly to not embarrass people around me. So even into my grown up life, like, I'll feel like I have to be more masked in aspects of my life. And I'm like, why do I feel like I have to be like that? Because I feel like people are going to judge me. I'm already judged every day and for different things, like, who cares? So I'm kind of over that, like, like aspect of my life. And I want to leave a lot of that in 2024.
Laura
Just kind of authentic life.
Manny Mua
I just want to live. I just want to live and let live. And like, sure, there'll be moments where I just am naturally just more butch in moments, for sure. Like if I'm at the gym, I'm just not gonna be like, in this setting, like, I'm gonna be a little more like, okay, I want to be in a workout zone. And that could be seen as more mask, but I'm not trying to do that. I think that's the difference. I want to actively not be like, oh, I have to butch up, like for something to feel like, you know, not embarrassed or feel like I'm better than because I'm mask. And that doesn't. Being masked does not make you better.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
You know, and I think that's the really, really important thing to take away. Being masked doesn't make you better. It's the truth. But like, they need to hear that and it's the truth. They need to hear that. Because a lot of times in the community or just in general, femininity is seen as weak. But the gag is why is that? Are you trying to put women down? Because women are naturally more feminine. So it's really like a whole deep dive of like misogyny all over again. Like you kind of like go into that where it's like, you need to be mask, you need me femme. It's like this really weird like thing that goes much deeper than I think just even feminine mask. There's a lot of aspects to it, but I'm not gonna get into that right now. But it's something to just kind of think about, right? Where it's like maybe just leaving. Why am I trying to butch it up right now? Is it cuz I'm embarrassing myself or are people embarrassed by me?
Laura
The why it's haunting.
Manny Mua
It's. The why is very haunting.
Laura
The wanting the why. You start asking in the honest answers, they get really spooky.
Manny Mua
They get spooky as hell. Because then like even diving into the why of that, because I'm like, well, is it because I was. I didn't want to embarrass people around me? And I. And I would butch it up because I don't want to be an embarrassment to anyone. And it's like, because people would see that as feminine. Like even look at me with like the game thing. Like they made fun of me for being a femme. And then I, I instinctively wanted to be butch.
Laura
Right.
Manny Mua
I couldn't even help it. I was like, what the? And I literally was like, what the are you talking about?
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
So I instinctively wanted to go right back to like how I was as a child trying to butch it up. But I'm like, that's like my own like trauma that I just got literally triggered by. So it's weird. It's like, it's a weird thing. So I want to try to be a little bit more like, take it or leave it. Yeah, like I don't care.
Laura
Not a little bit. A lot more of that.
Manny Mua
Yeah, a lot more of that.
Laura
Take it or leave it.
Manny Mua
Take it or leave it. Like I don't care. And so. And again, it kind of feeds into the people pleasingness of me when I was growing up. But I always just never wanted to be an embarrassment or a hindrance, right? So I was switching up.
Laura
You attract the tickets in your life and whenever you're not your authentic selves, you're attracting leave. It's in your life. And I don't know if that makes any sense, but it's like take it or leave it. The people that genuinely want to be there with you. Your most authentic self. When you are your most authentic self, you're attracting those people in that you want to have. And when you're in the facade of what you think other people want you to be, you're going to attract the people who like the facade. Not really who you are in. And then you're going to be surrounded with a bunch of people who don't appreciate you for who you really are. Are 100 so it's very important to get rid of the. And it may hurt. It may hurt the people you may want. Some of the people you may want to be around may be the leave. It's, you know, the people who like you for not who you really are.
Manny Mua
Totally.
Laura
And that sucks. But whenever you attract all the people who are like, yes, love you for exactly who you are, you're gonna be living in the land of bliss.
Manny Mua
100 and I'm not even saying that like you can't feed into different aspects of it. Like at the end of the day, we're all mixes of feminine and masculine energy in us. In some ways, we all have it all in us. And there's moments when I'm like, like feeling more butch as moments I'm feeling more fem. And I'm not saying that I need to be one or the other. It's just like feeling fine in both and not trying to be too masked. Cuz I am embarrassing people. That's what I'm trying to leave behind, you know?
Laura
Good for you.
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Code space80@talkspace.com a dirty space is what we're leaving behind. I'm a Virgo. Like, my house is always pretty clean, like spotless.
Manny Mua
I could eat off that ground that Yoshi's. I could lick that ground and I.
Laura
Would not catch one germ cannot.
Manny Mua
But Lysol, I licking his Lysol. I'm like, lemon lime.
Laura
Just clean that. Just clean.
Manny Mua
Yeah, yeah, up.
Laura
I'm talking about, okay, everything in your home should have a space. And if it doesn't, you got to get rid of some stuff. Oh, by the way, I've been selling a lot of my stuff. I've been selling a lot of my clothes. There's just like a ton of different websites, clothing, whether it's high end, low end. Like, and I've been hitting and selling at all different angles, like three different spots. It feels really good, by the way, because I would hang because I was like, what am I hanging on to? I would hang on to nicer things that I just don't want to throw in the donate pal. Because there were so much I feel too guilty guilty to get rid of. So I was like, what is the answer to this, Laura? Because in 2025, I want more space. And the way to have more space is to get rid of more things and quit buying as much. So I've been selling my stuff and it's been a really beautiful process. But a dirty space. I mean, like the little pot, the. The big or little pot, maybe you just live in pure filth. Okay, let's work on that. But maybe it's the piles that you are not. It's the pals that you. You ignore. You know what I mean, dude? Like for instance, like, I know I'm.
Manny Mua
Well as an Aries, I know it quite. I don't have the Virgo isms in me.
Laura
You're just gonna feel so much lighter, so much better and be so much. Your home should be your sanctuary. Okay? And a lot of times we hoarding things make us feel like we have more. They make us feel more complete. But at the end of the day, whenever you walk in your house and there's piles of everywhere, you can't find anything, you can't do anything. That's not how you want to. Not a good feeling. So it's really everything in your home should have a space. So let's say you walk in and kick your shoes off that you wear every single day and you don't really have a spot in your closet to put them, so you just leave them out on the floor. Why do you not have a spot to put them? Is it because your closet is filled with all the shoes that you literally never wear? Get rid of them and then have all this gorgeous, gorgeous space for the things that you use to be put away. And then you walk in your your space and it's all clean and tidy and all the things that you love have a home. It is a beautiful feeling of blissfulness. You know, it's the jacket you wear every day thrown across the end of your bed or on the floor because you have no more space in your closet to hang it. Get rid of the 32 jackets that you never wear. From the outside, looking at my closet may seem packed. It's not at all one. Nothing pisses me off more when I go to hang something up and I have to cram it in. Oh no, no, no, no, no. Go. I should have plenty of space to push those hangers aside and easily get things in and out. And that's the rule for me. So if anything news coming in, we have to get rid of stuff and we have to sell stuff. We have to donate. We have to give to friends and family that may want. We have to figure it out or no new stuff. Like the other day I saw a cute sweatset and I wanted it and I was like, I'm not getting it because I don't have any more space for my sweat sets right now. And I don't want to get rid of any of them because I like them. Looks like I don't need a new sweatset. You know what I mean?
Manny Mua
I like that aspect of it.
Laura
Influencer. It gets a little tricky because you get in. I'm like, oh, poor me, I get in.
Manny Mua
It's just different.
Laura
I don't mean it that way. You know, it's not necessarily me always buying stuff. It's the gifting. And also in 2025, I announced this in my recent video, but I am going to be cutting down drastically on the amount of PR that I get. And I already have been. I just haven't talked about it. Like, in 2024, I've already been doing it. I'm just going to continue that. That pathway of receiving less in 2025. Because I want my space. I don't want things. I want space. And I am clutter. I am telling you, it is so fulfilling. Like, open your kitchen drawer. There's a million pots and pans in there. So you never use. And every time you're dreading putting away dishes. Why? Because it's a. To put them all away. Because you don't have any space to put anything. Fix that.
Manny Mua
Yeah, it's true.
Laura
Get rid of things will feel like.
Manny Mua
More of a hassle when you don't have the space for them.
Laura
Room and you're gonna. Yes, yes. And your house is going to be way less messy if you have a space for everything to be put away. And chances are you don't have that space because you have a bunch of that. You're not using powder in those spaces. So it's just a really important mental thing, too. We're going into 2025 with clean spaces. So I love that.
Manny Mua
I've also been like, slowly but surely. It's not realizing it. Just you saying that kind of made me think about it. It is that I've been like, less about my PR as well. Like, kind of getting less. The emails get sent down. They're like, fill this out for this thing. I'm like, I'm not filling out as nearly as many. Like, I also want to do a little bit of, you know, less decluttering. It just feels like the clutter is really fierce.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
And so I get a little overwhelmed when it's like constantly getting stuff but not getting rid of stuff. So it's like, let's say you keep getting things in and not getting rid of things fast enough. Stuff that just piles up and piles up and piles up and you're like, oh, my God, I'm overwhelmed suddenly. And it's like a blessing to get stuff. But Then it's like you're just swimming in stuff.
Laura
That's the thing. In the beginning, it's like pr. It's very exciting. Like, who.
Manny Mua
Oh my God, who on earth wouldn't.
Laura
Want free makeup and all these free, great, expensive things? And then I felt really guilty for a while for declining them. As in, wow, am I really in the space in my life where I'm just like, no. Like, I kind of felt guilty. And then I got over that. I got over the hump of that and I was like, nope, this is my life, this is my home, this is my space. I want less.
Manny Mua
And also, are you feeling guilty because people make you want to feel guilty?
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
You know what I mean?
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
You start to think about that because you're like, 100. What's the point? Like, why am I even feeling guilty about this? Like, why am I filthy feeling guilty about saying no to getting prayer? Then it's like, because I'm gonna seem ungrateful to people that don't get pr.
Laura
That's why. Guilty.
Manny Mua
Yes.
Laura
That's why I felt guilty.
Manny Mua
You're running like your own. Like, but then it's also like, it's your life, so you have to do what you makes you happy and you do your own thing. I could not agree more. Four for me is I want to leave in 2024 exclusionary brands. And when I say exclusionary, I mean brands that, you know, work with the same kind of people over and over and over again. The same looking people, the constants that I see constantly. And I'm kind of tired of it. I love when, and just even talking about the conversation earlier, I do really like when people and brands are really, you know, show a lot of walks of life and work with a lots of different types of people and, you know, work with boys, girls, anything in between, like, all this type of thing. I love seeing more of that. Right? Like, and I'm not even saying like, you know, do that more than this. Like, I want, like, just I love the quality of aspects of brands. And so when I see exclusionary brands or brands only working with like one type of person only, those are good.
Laura
People to cut from the PR list.
Manny Mua
Oh my God. And I already have. I, like, I just got email. Like, I think we actually talked about us getting email from a ghost specific brand that was being like exclusionary towards us both. And we were like, then why the are you trying to send us pr?
Laura
Oh, yes. You know what I'm talking about. Yes, this brand.
Manny Mua
And I literally was like, you Just.
Laura
Try to super Isa, you know, icy. But. But we'd love for you to promote our product for free. Like we love to see. We were like absolutely not like super.
Manny Mua
Icy towards us, super exclusionary with us. But then trying to send us PR the next email, it's like, we're good. So I'm over that. I'm over that aspect of leaving all that in 2024. I'm not going to be so gung ho happy Sherry. When it comes to brands that I feel like are actively excluding types of people. Yeah, I'm not doing that.
Laura
They have their niche that they like to work with and no one else.
Manny Mua
Be in that niche. Then be in that niche.
Laura
Don't send it to me.
Manny Mua
Me. And don't expect me to do anything with you out.
Laura
Period. Okay, one more serious one. I have a funny one. Overly being self critical. We are our worst critics. We are our worst critics. You know, you see a picture of your friend, they're like, ah, look so ugly. I'm like, what the are you talking about? You look incredible. Because we're our worst critics. And all the things. And I've come to learn this a long, long time ago, thank God. But all the things that we're so critical about ourself, no one else notices. And that's because no one cares. And that's because they're busy being critical about themselves. They're too busy thinking all the. Everyone's in yourself to notice all the little nuances that you're worried about. So there's some breath of fresh air in that. And then my funny one is low rise socks. Millennials. Do not start with me because I know you're already typing your comments. The low rise socks. Are you we good?
Manny Mua
No, I'm not. But I could get rid of them. I have some.
Laura
Cover them ankles. Cover the Michaels.
Manny Mua
I actually do need to cover these ashy ass angles, let me tell you. But what if I'm wearing.
Laura
They're out.
Manny Mua
No, there's like a short with like a.
Laura
Absolutely. You should have a sock on. You should not have low rise.
Manny Mua
I'm trying to think of when you.
Laura
Would low rise double. Shouldn't have a low rise sock on. Give her the low rise socks.
Manny Mua
I literally don't even know when I'm wearing low rise socks, to be honest. Like I'm trying to think of it like when I wear them because I always like.
Laura
I mean, listen, as a millennial, that's all I wore for like a 10 year span there.
Manny Mua
I'll wear like a no show sock. When I'm wearing like a nicer shoe, I'll do a no show.
Laura
You can go ahead and. You can go ahead and do the tube sock.
Manny Mua
No, I can't because some shoes don't allow for a tube sock. I'm talking those ones that have like a slip that like go to here. That's like almost like a loafer.
Laura
Oh, you're talking about quite weird. Okay, that's different. That's different.
Manny Mua
So I'll do like a no show or something really low.
Laura
You're talking about a no show. Like, like a little cover the toes for comfort.
Manny Mua
Like literally covering up just this portion. Yeah, yeah. Just kind of want to be no shoe.
Laura
Yeah. So you're so you're sho.
Manny Mua
It'll look crazy. So it's like you have to do one of those.
Laura
The low rise socks are leaving 2020. They're staying in 2024.
Manny Mua
Okay, I'm going give you that. Cuz I do like a tube anyway. Like, I like tubes way more. They, they make my angle, not my angles. But my calves look so fierce.
Laura
There you go.
Manny Mua
And I agree with it. So my funny one that I have.
Laura
Gen Z will have my back on that one though.
Manny Mua
They will. They absolutely will. They're going to ride for you on this one. My. I don't know that my back on this one. Mine. We're leaving in 2024. Phone calls.
Laura
Oh, please.
Manny Mua
I want to either FaceTime or text. There's no in between. I don't want to.
Laura
I want a phone call. Someone.
Manny Mua
I. If someone's calling me, I would say nine times out of ten, I'm not answering.
Laura
No matter what the emergency. Even if you've been in a wreck, just text me and I can get there quicker. Her.
Manny Mua
I'm gonna FaceTime you.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
Because if I'm FaceTiming, you know, you're like, oh, this is fierce.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
Like, because you know I'm not gonna call you unless I'm like, I need to really say something. Like, it's gonna. It's an immediate.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
But it's gonna be a text or a FaceTime. It's not gonna really be a call because what's the point of a call?
Laura
Let's think about that. Nothing.
Manny Mua
I mean, there's probably a lot of.
Laura
Points, but I can't do it. Never a reason to call.
Manny Mua
There's never a reason.
Laura
Even customer service, a voice note, even sense now. Like, even customer service companies do not want you to call.
Manny Mua
It's AI, babe.
Laura
It's AI.
Manny Mua
It's all AI. So I'm like, we can FaceTime and we can text or email. We don't need to call.
Laura
You know, you're old. I answer, manny, I'm bad about this. I answer my text. Like, emails. I'm bad. Like, I'll wait, like, three hours, get, like, four or five texts go in. Boom, boom, boom.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura
She's like, that's when you know. I'm in my 30s face.
Manny Mua
That's when you know. No, you also know when you respond to an email faster.
Laura
Oh, you can get me way faster with the email. Like, I swear to God.
Manny Mua
Hey, girl.
Laura
I'm like, oh, hey, baby. What's up? What's up, babe? Like, I swear to God, you can get me way faster on email. Thank you.
Manny Mua
Maybe the email is gonna get you.
Laura
You're not guaranteed.
Manny Mua
It's not. It's not. At least within a day frame.
Laura
Also, I keep my text messages at zero. Do you?
Manny Mua
Yes.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
I don't like any red bubble.
Laura
I don't like no red bubbles.
Manny Mua
Even if I'm not gonna respond to you, I'm open.
Laura
I'm gonna have to go ahead and clear it out me.
Manny Mua
It sounds.
Laura
So we consciously will not respond.
Manny Mua
The thing is, sometimes I also like, when I see it, I'm like, oh, yeah, I need to respond to that later.
Laura
Well, that's part of the reason. Well, part of the reason. Things I don't want to deal with right now and read through right now, I'll leave them unread. And that's part of the reason I like it to be cleared out. So if I see, add one in the queue, like, oh, yeah.
Manny Mua
And then I'll clear it out before I needed to clear them. That's the problem.
Laura
Oh, I.
Manny Mua
Because I'll forget to respond.
Laura
Horrible.
Manny Mua
I literally will forget.
Laura
What I'm worse about is dms. People come up to me all the time, pissed off that I ignore their dm, and I'm like, baby, you.
Manny Mua
You. Who else?
Laura
Yes. Because, Manny, how bad am I in the dm?
Manny Mua
DMS are much worse, you guys, than text. And text is already bad.
Laura
Text is bad with me. Dms, It's. It's a lot.
Manny Mua
It's a wrap. Honestly, I've gotten. It's so crazy, though, because as I've gotten older, I've gotten a lot worse at dms. Stayed, like, the same in text and, like, stuff like that. But, like, in dms, for some reason, there's, like, a detachment with the dms, right? I cannot.
Laura
Well, my problem is because, like, our social media Accounts. Like if one person DMS me a couple times. If five more people DM me and it pushes it down. I mean, I would never go through, scroll through my DMs, ever. I only see what's at the top. Like the top four. And as they get pushed down and I have been mortified because I'll tag something in someone and then it pulls them up to the top.
Manny Mua
The conversation they're having with you, that's not even happening. I never saw that. Huh?
Laura
Yeah. They'll be like, do you want to please go get dinner? And I'm like.
Manny Mua
And you're tagging them in a story?
Laura
And you're like, yep. And then I tag them in the story. I'm like, oh, my God. I am so sorry. I am so sorry.
Manny Mua
No, honestly, cuz I think the DMS can be a little daunting as well.
Laura
It is. I'm bad.
Manny Mua
There's a lot going on in the dms because it's not even just from your friends. It could be from other people. Creators.
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Laura
You get tagged in a store so.
Manny Mua
Much and like I get overwhelmed where I was like, like, say in text messages, I'm like, at least the people that have my number.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
Like I'm gonna be able to hopefully respond in an orderly time. But it gets a little spooky in the dm. I'm not gonna lie. I get more spooked every day.
Laura
Oh yeah, it's bad. It's really bad. Okay, let's talk about things we want to bring in 2025.
Manny Mua
Yes, yes. And this. Oh my God. If you get bad for this treat. Tree keeps getting like a leaf. I tap it and four fall down on my. It's like on my face.
Laura
I'm like, it's all the. The trees.
Manny Mua
I tap the tree and the tree.
Laura
Has barely made baby.
Manny Mua
The tree's being left in 2024. Let me tell you.
Laura
First and foremost, the tree.
Manny Mua
Poor goddamn tree.
Laura
God damn.
Manny Mua
Okay. My first. Like, I'm gonna. I'll do like bite size with these. I won't be as like long winded.
Laura
Okay, me too.
Manny Mua
Me too. For me, I'm just. I want. I want to say. It's not even. Even explain as much. I'm gonna say saying no more.
Laura
And now is the complete sentence.
Manny Mua
No, it's gonna be sin saying no more. I really want to do that in 2025. That's a goal of mine. To just be. Not fomoey. If that makes sense. Like I can be fine with not going to things.
Laura
Yes. You know, and let me tell you, the world's still spinning maybe.
Manny Mua
And my world still spinning.
Laura
Mine is to focus more. Okay. And this does not. It's like live more in the moment. Live more in the moment scene. And this isn't like I'm just on my phone. I'm telling you I can be literally seeing the most beautiful mountain scene and my mind will be thinking about minim and like what we can do. Like I'm so. My wheels are always turning.
Manny Mua
And it's the hard part being a creator too.
Laura
It is because like, you know, your job is like how hard you work is how successful you are at it, unfortunately. And my wheels are always turned learning. And this year I want to take. Just stop and be like, put a.
Manny Mua
Cog in the wheel for a second.
Laura
Yep. And we're gonna take it in. Like even when I'm like sometimes people can be talking to me and telling me something and I dissociated like long ago 100 and it happens like way too often.
Manny Mua
That could also be like the ADHDness too.
Laura
It is.
Manny Mua
It could also be part of it because I know I have some ADHD tendencies.
Laura
I need to work on that.
Manny Mua
I can't help but like, I almost like I'll get shot back into reality. I'm like, oh my God, I disassociated. I'm so sorry.
Laura
Or I'll be like watching a TV show completely off my. My phone, staring at the screen and I disassociate it so hard.
Manny Mua
You missed three sentences. Oh my God, I miss all that.
Laura
I gotta like work on that. I'm deep in it.
Manny Mua
So am I. I am. And I also think our attention spans are all from social media.
Laura
You're so right.
Manny Mua
So that adds to it as well. Damn. My. Another one is sleeping earlier. It's one of my. Okay. It's like a crazy. Within reason. Okay. My sleeping schedule right now is really, really bad. It's actually one of the worst. It's been in like a while. So I'm trying to go. I'm trying to re.
Laura
Regress is bad because I didn't get.
Manny Mua
Right now.
Laura
It's pretty bad response like 11. Something like 11:30. And I was like, oh, this in it deep.
Manny Mua
I'm not like recently I've been going to bed to like three, 3:30.
Laura
Ah, that's late.
Manny Mua
It's pretty late for me even that for. Even for me because my normal is like the next one 30. Sick, sick, deadly ill. And my body will not like see my. Unlike yours, my body will sleep to get the eight hours right. Like it needs to get it regardless. So if I'm going to sleep late, I'm waking up really late. So I'm trying. It's sickening now.
Laura
I know it is.
Manny Mua
Honestly.
Laura
Don't change it. It's a gift.
Manny Mua
No, but like I really am going to try to get down from like 3:30 to like.
Laura
What time did we go to bed on New Year's Eve?
Manny Mua
3:30.
Laura
You know what?
Manny Mua
No. 3. 3.
Laura
3:00 in the morning. And what time do I wake up up? 7am, 7am I got up, I went to sleep for four hours. Now, if I could sleep till 11, I would always stay up to three. You mean like, whatever, let's do it. But for me, I have hell to pay. My body simply can't.
Manny Mua
They say you're going to. No, it's a miracle when you sleep till nine. Let's clock that. It's a literal Christmas miracle. It's a New Year's miracle.
Laura
The only way I sleep to nine, though, is if I wake up at five or six and you can go back. Back to sleep. And I'm able, but I never can just power struggle straight through the thing. But if I'm able to get myself to like, doze off for a couple more hours, bliss. That is only half. That's like very rare. But that's good for you. So what's your new schedule?
Manny Mua
You're thinking, I'm trying to go to sleep at like one.
Laura
And what time are you trying to wake up? Nine. Let's think. That's eight.
Manny Mua
That's eight. So I'm truly. I'm trying to do a one to nine is beautiful. I think that's lovely.
Laura
Because then I'm still like, 11 is rough.
Manny Mua
3. 11 is rough for me. The thing is. And the thing is, like, if I'm staying up till three, those video games.
Laura
Are kicking your ass. And I know it.
Manny Mua
It's not only the video games. It's like, come talking to someone too. So it's like we're talking so late because he stays up really late too.
Laura
And I know why he stays up late.
Manny Mua
So I'm saying, so I'm staying up late and he's staying up late and I'm playing the game, so I'm staying up late. And also, let me tell you something. When you're playing a video game, that's kind of like intense.
Laura
Oh, yeah.
Manny Mua
Your heart pounding.
Laura
Oh, yeah. You're not gonna sleep when your heart's gonna be like.
Manny Mua
What's it called? Like, the adrenaline's going. You're not going to fall asleep. So I will. I have to like, force myself. I'll take my lemmy sleeps like 2:30.
Laura
So when me and Ty are starting to fall asleep at 8:30 or 9, I go, we have to play Mario.
Manny Mua
Oh, you have to activate.
Laura
Yeah. I'm like, we can't go to bed right now. We'll be up at 5am I was like, we have. I'm like, ty, get the. Let's we call it slap the sticks.
Manny Mua
Get it.
Laura
We got to Slap the sticks, babe. Get the game.
Manny Mua
Also like, what I will say too about being up really late. There's something very peaceful about no one else being awake. I don't know if that makes sense. Where it's like, yeah, like there's a blissness in being up that late. Where it's like no one would bother me in the morning. And you sleep through the bother, but then you in the morning, like people will hit you up at 8am like they, if it's early, they will, they will hit you up early. But a lot of times people aren't hitting you up at 2am no, never.
Laura
Actually.
Manny Mua
Never. So it's kind of like there's something that's kind of like I just feel like I'm in my own little bubble in a way.
Laura
Wow. That is. I love the way you think about that. Another one is to share more and be a more authentic. I think I got like in this world of comfortability and it's really good to get uncomfortable, but.
Manny Mua
Right.
Laura
But the Internet, I just kind of like. Well I shared stuff on the podcast. I was just like very careful about what I said and you know, like very quickly retreat and. Because it's a blissful place to live. Yeah.
Manny Mua
Like a one and then a two.
Laura
Like I'll give you a chrome and I'll tell you the whole story. You know what I mean? And I think there's such a beautiful thing and like being open and sharing but it's a double edged sword because we do it with like so many people that don't always have our best interest. You know what I mean?
Manny Mua
100%.
Laura
So like a double edged sword. I think I got chewed up by it for so many years online that I ended up retreating and really figuring out the system and, and hey, guess what? My life, my life got really blissful and I got really happy online because I wasn't dealing with a lot of the riff raff of oversharing and giving too much of my life for people to judge. So I got really nice and I got really happy online. But now I'm willing to challenge myself a little more and give a little bit more and give a little bit more. Give a little more in the most authentic way and I'll give what I can handle.
Manny Mua
I cannot agree more. I think it's fantastic. I love it. I love that you're sharing more. I think it's great. I've been obviously hearing way more than anyone ever else has. It was nice to see like them be so cool about you being open to that, the double edged swordness is the fact that it's like you say something, people want to follow up with that thing. But what if you don't want them to follow up with that thing? So that gets tough.
Laura
Yeah.
Manny Mua
So there's a toughness in that where it's like people are just genuinely curious. They're not even trying to be offensive about anything. But what if you just don't want to talk about that thing?
Laura
That's why that's tough.
Manny Mua
And you're constantly reminded about it. So you have to like kind of think of it in that way too where it's like, do I. Am I okay with me being reminded of this?
Laura
Yeah. If I don't talk, open that door. It never closes.
Manny Mua
It doesn't close. It doesn't close.
Laura
That was another aspect of me retreating too and learning those lessons. But it's give and take and I feel like I took back a bit much, you know, and now I'm finding a good medium way, a balance.
Manny Mua
I love it. I think. I agree More being more versed for me. Oh, I want to top more. Good for you.
Laura
Ty said, Jesus Christ.
Manny Mua
I hope other people are listening. They're like, Jesus Christ. Yeah, I want to like top more. I feel like, you know, I've been. I want to be more verse because like, I've always somehow just dated guys that were just like strict tops, right, that they want to top only and I like them like, so I was like, I'm totally down. Like, I like to do that too. But now I want to be a little bit more in my verse era. Top more. Get in, feel that, that, that fantasy a little bit. Just because I haven't for so long and it's like, okay, I feel like this is my year to feed into that a little bit.
Laura
Yeah, switch it up. You know what I mean?
Manny Mua
Switch it up a little bit. Where I'm like, well, I don't want to douche every time. Yeah, not every time. Like, let me like, that's why I'm.
Laura
Like, you're wild for being the takers. Even though I'm a taker myself, I don't have to prep for that really. I would just be like, I'm gonna top. I ain't doing all this.
Manny Mua
It's the, the work to do that also. Eating healthy the whole day or not barely eating just to make sure you're good.
Laura
Oh, my lord. No, no.
Manny Mua
So much. I'm kind of like, no, I need to like feed into my top era more.
Laura
Yeah, it's time My last one is to read more, and I already read a ton, but I feel like I get a few more. He's, like.
Manny Mua
My immediate reaction.
Laura
I'm like, what the is wrong with you? Read even more.
Manny Mua
Reading is good, though. Like, that's, like, such a good thing for you.
Laura
It's such a fun activity, and you get to. You get. I'm telling you, books are filled with so much that videos and the Internet can never give you. They can never give you. You. And every time I do read a book, I get so much out of it. I'm always rewarded on the other side with so much. So Manny bought me RuPaul's memoir for Christmas, and I'm. I'm almost finished with it. It is delectable.
Manny Mua
I knew it would be. I just knew.
Laura
I mean, come on, RuPaul.
Manny Mua
New season just came out, baby. We are in.
Laura
I see us all differently, though. Oh, I know too much now. You're like, I know so much, and, like, I just see him. Them differently.
Manny Mua
Do. Is it, like, in a different way? In, like, a respectful way? Yeah.
Laura
You know, me and you, we've always, like, worshiped and respected our diva, the Queen of Dragon.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura
It's just, like, I feel like I know him. Yeah, I know you.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura
I know everything you did as a child. Not everything, but I know, like, your childhood. I know the coolest stories. I know your first hookup. Like, I know all these things. I knew the first person you fell in love with. I know about your sister and your mother and your fathers and your. Yeah, I know about everything. And you just can't help but to view someone differently when you know more.
Manny Mua
100.
Laura
I'm like, I feel like we're friends.
Manny Mua
Yeah.
Laura
I feel like me and R are friends.
Manny Mua
Yeah. You're like, hey, girl.
Laura
Hey, girl.
Manny Mua
I bet now if you met him in person, like, you'd be, like, spooked, but you'd also be like, oh, hey.
Laura
Like, yeah, it's like, I've known you for so many years. You don't know me, but I've known you for so many years on a deeper level. So it's. It's different now. Which, again, that's the reward you get in reading Ex.
Manny Mua
Yeah. And also the rewards being open.
Laura
Another. Oh, yeah.
Manny Mua
She was open. And you just, like, felt that connection with her because she was open.
Laura
My. Another good memoir I read was Matthew McConaughey's Green Light. It's one of the.
Manny Mua
Her. It's amazing.
Laura
And. And him, too. Like, I don't even look at him as this, like, cool, confident actor. Like, it's so different. Like, it's just I. I see him so differently. I've read. I mean, I've read so many memoir. I specifically like memoirs, and I like self development. Yeah, you get a lot out of memoirs.
Manny Mua
No smut for you.
Laura
What's that?
Manny Mua
I knew you were gonna know. Smut.
Laura
Smut.
Manny Mua
Smut is, like, inappropriate. Books like that are just, like, love stories that are just sick.
Laura
Oh, are they?
Manny Mua
Yes. It's like, let me see that definition. I'm gonna, like. I'm gonna read the definition of smut. Very specific. No, it is smut.
Laura
I did not read the 50 shades of gray book books. I did not.
Manny Mua
Let me tell you something. Okay, here we go.
Laura
I thought I would go to hell around the time they were going out. Even though I probably have done everything. I'd probably, at that time, done everything horrible. I just thought those books were the real token that were gonna send straight to hell. I did.
Manny Mua
Smut is a story, usually a book or a fan fiction that includes one or more sexually explicit scenes.
Laura
Oh, wow.
Manny Mua
So it's, like, very explicit in the book. You're not.
Laura
I am not a smutty girl. I knew you weren't a smutty, smutty smut.
Manny Mua
I knew. I knew. I was like, she's not even know what smut means. I'm gonna say it anymore.
Laura
That is so funny. That is so funny. No smut for me.
Manny Mua
No smutty.
Laura
Too prudish even.
Manny Mua
Actually, don't even put that in my book.
Laura
Yeah, I don't want to read your nasty. I'm just kidding. I would. People made such a big out. 56 shades of gray. I was tempted, but I was like, God is watching. You're, like, driving 90 miles an hour down the highway smoking a cigarette. God is alive.
Manny Mua
He is alive and he's watching me.
Laura
He's watching me. Better not read that snut. Saying every other word. Saying every other word. Good is I. Hey. There was a really profound line Matthew McConaughey says in the first season True Detective, and he says, if the only thing keeping you being a good person. He's talking about, like, Christian people. If the only thing that keeps you being a good person is the promise of reward on the other side of death means you're always a terrible person. And I was like, oh, that's.
Manny Mua
I know that. I know the girlies were pissed at that. I know the girlies were pissed at that.
Laura
The promise of the chair in heaven is the only thing Keeping you behaving well then you're already a terrible person because you're just doing this for the goods that you think you're going to get on the.
Manny Mua
What you might get.
Laura
I'm not here to say it's not real. I. I'm just saying there was something very profound in that. And I was, whoa, that's something a.
Manny Mua
Lot of people had to hear.
Laura
He says it so quick off the cus. And I'm like, that is the deepest thing I've ever heard in my life. And let's go back to that.
Manny Mua
Let's go back to that.
Laura
No, I did already round it. And I was like, cuz he has this thick country accent. He does the best country accent because he's from Texas. He has a real one. And he says it like really country. And I was like, cuz he's really cynical and he's an atheist in the show. And the other guy is like your typical American, like Christian. Like you don't say that about. And he's Woody Harrelson. Oh, I know.
Manny Mua
Two icons.
Laura
Best show ever. You guys have got to watch that first season only.
Manny Mua
I would love to take a trip to Paris with them.
Laura
You better trust Emily. But he said that and I said, oh my God, that was the most profound thing I've ever heard.
Manny Mua
I mean that really is quite profound. Like we have to really like read between the lines.
Laura
It even woke me up like, because remember I was like, oh, I wouldn't read Fifty Shades of Gray, God's watching. And then it goes back to that little. The only thing keeping you good is that promise of getting in the pearly gates of heaven. Were you even a good person ever? No, no, no. Because. Because. Would you just go do all those shitty things if there was nothing on the other side?
Manny Mua
Yes. Oh, they sure would.
Laura
See?
Manny Mua
They sure would.
Laura
That's just something to ponder.
Manny Mua
But honestly, if people, you know what, on the other other side of that, if that keeps some people from doing really horrible things, God, please. God willing, babe, we got to have something. I need a shield somewhere. Go right.
Laura
We got to have something.
Manny Mua
Yeah, we have to have something. I'm like, you know what if that's the case. Cuz without that you going to get it. You can get. You going to get that chair, babe. Cuz I can't deal with that kind of like please trust and believe because it's too much.
Laura
The good Lord. You got anything else?
Manny Mua
No.
Laura
Okay, well that is what we will end our episode on. We thank you all for being here. Here have so much fun. We'll see you next time.
Manny Mua
Love this episode.
Laura
Bye guys.
Manny Mua
Bye guys. And leave. Actually, you know what? Leave one of your ins and one of your outs.
Laura
Only if you stay to the end.
Manny Mua
Only to the end. If you're at the end leaving in and out for yourself for 2024 and.
Laura
I think we can all learn from one another and all pick up from one another.
Manny Mua
I agree.
Laura
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Manny Mua
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Fool Coverage with Manny MUA and Laura Lee – Episode: "Things You NEED to Leave in 2024 (Goals for 2025)"
Podcast Information:
The episode kicks off with Manny MUA and Laura Lee welcoming listeners to a deep dive into their personal reflections on what to leave behind in 2024 and what to embrace in 2025. They aim to inspire listeners to reflect on their own lives and set meaningful goals.
Manny MUA shares a personal experience from playing the game "Marvel Rivals," where he encountered homophobic behavior from other players. This incident highlights the ongoing challenges LGBTQ+ individuals face in online gaming communities.
Laura Lee empathizes, noting that while Los Angeles offers a more accepting environment, many LGBTQ+ individuals still face prejudice in broader society.
The hosts delve into broader societal issues, discussing how cultural norms and internalized prejudices impact the LGBTQ+ community. They emphasize the importance of representation and inclusivity in media to normalize diverse identities.
Manny expresses his desire to move away from his pattern of engaging in multiple relationships simultaneously, recognizing it as emotionally exhausting and unsustainable.
Laura tackles the pervasive scarcity mindset, where the belief that there's not enough success or resources for everyone leads to jealousy and unhealthy competition.
She acknowledges her tendency to be excessively critical of herself, which hinders personal growth and self-acceptance.
Adding a touch of humor, Laura mentions her intention to ditch low-rise socks, deeming them a stale fashion choice.
Manny decides to minimize traditional phone calls, preferring texts or FaceTime for communication to reduce unnecessary stress and maintain control over his interactions.
Laura criticizes the cultural glorification of overworking and burnout, advocating for a healthier work-life balance.
Both hosts agree on the overuse of the word "sorry," recognizing it as a habit stemming from people-pleasing tendencies that undermines their confidence.
Recognizing the negative impact of impulsive purchases on his finances and mental state, Manny aims to control his shopping habits.
The hosts express frustration with brands that only cater to a narrow demographic, advocating for inclusivity and diversity in brand partnerships.
To combat burnout and maintain personal boundaries, Manny commits to asserting himself by saying "no" more often.
Laura aims to enhance her mindfulness and presence, reducing her tendency to overthink and staying engaged with her immediate experiences.
While balancing openness with privacy, Laura seeks to share more authentic aspects of her life, fostering deeper connections with her audience.
Manny expresses a desire to explore different dynamics in his relationships, specifically wanting to take on more of a "top" role, diversifying his personal connections.
Laura emphasizes the importance of reading for personal growth, planning to incorporate more books into her routine to gain new insights and knowledge.
Acknowledging the detrimental effects of poor sleep, Manny resolves to establish a healthier sleep schedule to enhance his overall well-being.
Manny and Laura wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to reflect on their own lives, identifying personal "ins" to leave behind and setting intentional goals for the coming year. They emphasize the importance of self-awareness, authenticity, and maintaining a positive mindset to foster personal growth and happiness.
Self-Reflection and Growth: Both hosts advocate for deep self-reflection to identify and eliminate harmful habits and mindsets.
Inclusivity and Representation: Emphasis on the importance of diverse representation in media and business to foster a more accepting society.
Mental Health: Recognition of the impact of societal pressures and personal habits on mental well-being, with a focus on setting healthy boundaries.
Authenticity: Encouraging genuine self-expression and reducing reliance on external validation to build stronger, more meaningful relationships.
Balanced Lifestyle: Promoting a balanced approach to work, relationships, and personal time to achieve overall well-being.
Manny MUA [03:00]: "It’s shocking... I was hated for just being who I am. It’s a weird, fascinating thing because I love the game, but turning off the mic was necessary to avoid the negativity."
Laura Lee [04:51]: "Sometimes it feels like the whole world's against you when you're just trying to stay afloat."
Manny MUA [12:04]: "Representation in media normalizes diversity, helping society accept different walks of life."
Laura Lee [07:53]: "I pity those who refuse to embrace a colorful world. Their narrow minds limit their experiences."
Manny MUA [41:31]: "I'm leaving the juggling of men in 2024. I want to be more consistent and avoid the emotional turmoil of multiple overlapping relationships."
Laura Lee [44:15]: "Leaving the scarcity mindset in 2024 means celebrating others' successes without feeling diminished in my own journey."
Laura Lee [75:56]: "We're our worst critics. Letting go of excessive self-criticism is essential for mental well-being."
Manny MUA [77:54]: "I'm leaving phone calls in 2024. Texts and FaceTime are more efficient and less stressful for me."
Laura Lee [53:39]: "We romanticize the grind and burnout. In 2024, I'm choosing to prioritize my well-being over relentless hustle."
Laura Lee [57:33]: "Stop using 'sorry' unless you're genuinely apologetic. Stand your ground confidently."
Manny MUA [52:38]: "Leaving behind impulse shopping means addressing the void I try to fill with unnecessary purchases."
Laura Lee [75:22]: "I'm distancing myself from exclusionary brands that don't embrace diversity. In 2024, it's all about inclusivity."
Manny MUA [84:25]: "In 2025, I'm embracing the power of 'no' to protect my time and mental health."
Laura Lee [84:42]: "Living more in the moment in 2025 means appreciating the present without getting lost in plans or anxieties."
Laura Lee [89:33]: "Sharing more authentically in 2025 will help me connect deeply with those who appreciate the real me."
Manny MUA [91:27]: "In 2025, I want to embrace being more of a 'top,' adding variety and balance to my relationships."
Laura Lee [92:34]: "Reading more in 2025 enriches my mind and fuels my creativity in ways the internet can't."
Manny MUA [86:52]: "Sleeping earlier is a priority in 2025. A balanced sleep schedule is essential for my health and productivity."
Final Thoughts: This episode of "Fool Coverage" serves as a motivational guide for listeners to assess their current lifestyles, shed detrimental habits, and set thoughtful, achievable goals for the future. Manny MUA and Laura Lee blend personal anecdotes with broader social commentary, offering both relatability and insightful advice.