You Sent us Your Problems… Here’s the Truth (calling in)

Summary

Fool Coverage with Manny MUA and Laura Lee

Episode: "You Sent Us Your Problems… Here’s the Truth (calling in)"

Release Date: February 20, 2026 | PodcastOne

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant, advice-packed episode of Fool Coverage, beauty gurus and best friends Manny MUA and Laura Lee dive deep into listener dilemmas submitted via voice notes. With their signature banter, humor, and surprisingly solid perspectives, Manny and Laura dish out unfiltered advice on relationships, friendships, drama in the workplace, and even marital woes—always with the caveat: “Take it with a grain of salt—this is F.O.O.L. advice!” The episode is a unique mix of laughs, glam life anecdotes, and honest, sometimes spicy, real talk, giving listeners a dose of both comic relief and genuine wisdom.

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Main Segments & Key Discussion Points

1. Personal Updates: "Peek and Pit"

• [02:06] Manny and Laura kick off with their signature highs and lows recap.

  • Manny's "Pits":

    • Dog Choking Scare: Manny’s tiny dog, Z, choked on rice, leading to frantic mini-dog Heimlich maneuvers and a near-emergency vet trip.

    "Her tongue is blue. Like she's actually like really choking. So I like jump up immediately and then I grab her and I grab my keys and I run down the stairs...as I'm running downstairs got dislodged." – Manny [03:46]

    • Laser Hair Removal Fiasco: Manny details the pain and aftermath of a botched laser session, leading to "chicken skin" and visible folliculitis—right before a big event.

    "It literally...hurts so bad. And there's something about, like…when those pops start to get into your hairline, they're just fire.” – Manny [09:09]

  • Laura's "Pits":

    • Fashion Malfunctions: Laura recounts two recent wardrobe disasters: a corset zipper explosion and a skirt pin launching off unexpectedly.

    "I had a corset top underneath this blazer. And the zipper went. And I felt a release of air, like…" – Laura [06:11]

    • Sizing Struggles: Both commiserate about inconsistent clothing sizes and the idea of working with a stylist.

2. TV/TikTok/Pop Culture Chit-Chat

• [10:50] Commentary on the show "Beauty" (FX).
  • Both hosts rave about this "American Horror Story-coded" series with a glam/horror twist, noting Manu’s guest interview on the show.
  • Loved the campy, over-the-top drama and accuracy of industry scenes.

    "Bro, this is like really sickening. Like, I'm really enjoying it…The goal is like a camp. Like a camp horror, but very camp. Over the top dramatic.” – Manny [11:10] "It also has a bad side effect…so it's like, it's a really interesting concept." – Laura [12:01]

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3. Listener Problems & FOOL Advice

🍵 Workplace Affair & the Dilemma to Tell

[17:05]
Listener suspects a married coworker is having an affair and struggles with whether to inform the coworker’s wife.

• Manny and Laura weigh the moral responsibility versus self-preservation.
  • Anonymous tip strongly recommended.

  "Is my getting up worth saying something? Or is it not? Because the thing is, at the end of the day, you work with them." – Manny [19:36] "Send an anonymous email." – Laura [20:04] "In the anonymous...you can include minor details to know that it's real." – Manny [20:47]

👯 Navigating Friendships in Your Early 20s

[22:17]
Listener asks how to make and maintain friends in their 20s.

• Both emphasize putting yourself out there through hobbies, classes, or sports.
• Laura references Mel Robbins’ advice on starting conversations with compliments.

  "Friendship is supposed to be easy and it’s supposed to be honestly simple." – Manny [23:09] "Compliment people. She said…that’s the best way to strike up a conversation—it literally works." – Laura [24:24]

💑 Keeping a Marriage Exciting

[29:43]
A listener asks Laura for the secret to a lasting marriage.

• Laura: “Do things together, try new hobbies, keep the friendship alive.”

  "We enjoy each other's company because we are friends." – Laura [30:10]

  • Suggests keeping things fresh by supporting your partner’s new interests.

  "Seeing your partner try something new…is like a natural attraction that can make you like re-attracted to your partner." – Laura [31:05]

👻 Missing Toxic Friendships

[33:11]
Someone misses good times with old toxic friends, wonders if it’s normal.

• Both reassure this is typical, especially in lonely times, and urge not to reach out.

  "Your brain will remind you of all those good times…and suddenly forget the pain." – Laura [33:13] "It absolutely happens…our brain does that to protect us." – Manny [33:33] "There’s 8 billion people in the world. Pick someone else." – Laura [33:56]

😑 Dealing with a Chronically Negative Friend

[36:28] Listener is exhausted by a constantly negative friend.

• Manny and Laura promote the “rings of a tree” metaphor for downgrading friendships from inner to outer circles.

  "If there's someone in your life that's really, really negative, you're not gonna want to be around that because your life is sickening." – Manny [37:13] "You are who you hang around, unfortunately...if you're around a negative person enough, it is gonna rub off on." – Laura [37:34] "As adults, you can have different rings of friendship...allowed to move up and down people out of these rings." – Manny [39:01]

🗳️ Marriage with Clashing Values

[43:11]
Listener (mid-30s, white, anti-Trump) is married to a mid-20s Dominican immigrant who is pro-Trump; they fight often about politics and core values.

• Manny and Laura are honest: Without shared foundational values, the marriage is unlikely to work.

  "One of the main things before you get married...is to make sure your values and morals align." – Laura [44:40] "If you do not have the same literal moral compass, that inner voice of one another, then I actually just don't think it's going to work long haul." – Manny [45:44] "I think you know your answer, girl." – Laura [45:44]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Relationship Boundaries:

  "You shouldn’t have a vastly different opinion about huge things when you’re married to someone." – Manny [47:36]

• On Friendship in Adulthood:

  "As you get older you realize more what you’re willing to put up with." – Manny [02:29 & 37:13]

• On Compliments as Conversation Starters:

  "That's the best way to start a conversation with a stranger is complimenting them." – Laura [25:01]

• On Fashion Fails:

  "Suddenly her skirt is falling down and you’re seeing skims everywhere." – Manny [06:47]

• On Negative People:

  “Danger, danger darling…You are who you hang around, unfortunately.” – Laura [37:34]

• On Marriage Compatibility:

  "If they do not, you should not…I don’t think you should marry that person." – Laura [44:42]

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Structure & Timestamps of Listener Call-ins

• [17:05] – Workplace affair: Should I tell the wife?
• [22:17] – Navigating friendships in your 20s
• [29:43] – Marriage longevity and excitement
• [33:11] – Missing toxic old friends
• [36:28] – Chronic negative friends: what to do?
• [43:11] – Marriage with misaligned political/moral values

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Tone & Takeaway

Fun, irreverent, and honest, Manny and Laura approach their advice with heart and humor, never pretending to be therapists and continually reminding listeners: “This is just fool advice!” This episode is all about laughing through the mess while still giving real, actionable tips for combating gossip, dealing with emotional baggage, and building the kinds of connections that actually light you up.

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“Let us know what you guys think of this style…We love hearing your voices and giving advice, but always—take our advice with a grain of salt!” – Manny [49:12]

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Ideal for listeners seeking smart, sassy takes on life’s everyday messes—from friendship woes to serious relationship crossroads, served with a signature glam twist.

Transcript

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[Manny Mua]

Why are you fucking smirking?

[Laura Lee]

I need to get it together. Ready to walk out the door. And I had a corset top underneath this blazer, and the zipper went. And I felt a release of air, like.

[Manny Mua]

Oh. As you get older, you realize more what you're willing to come up with. Hey, guys. Welcome back to Full Coverage, your favorite podcast with your hosts, Manny Mua and Laura Lee.

[Laura Lee]

And today, we are going to be giving you advice. Not that we are qualified.

[Manny Mua]

No, let us just preface that now. We are not qualified to be giving copious amounts of advice.

[Laura Lee]

But. But we will.

[Manny Mua]

This is with a grain of salt. This is F O O L. This is just giving the vibe.

[Laura Lee]

The vibes.

[Manny Mua]

This is just for fun. This is entertainment, but for reals.

[Laura Lee]

Also, the lighting may look a little different. We're filming in the middle of the night. It's 7pm and we normally don't do that.

[Manny Mua]

No, we don't usually do that, but things have transpired and we had to film a nighttime. And here we are filming in the middle of the night before an event.

[Laura Lee]

I look like a news anchor with blush blindness. So if you're a listener, I'm trying to give you a description of what I look like.

[Manny Mua]

We're painting a picture. I look like I'm wearing a shirt too tight.

[Laura Lee]

Let me tell you. All right, let me look at the viewfinder.

[Manny Mua]

Hold on.

[Caller with Marriage Question]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Tattoos on your body.

[Manny Mua]

It literally will look. Oh, my God. Because it's kind of like skin, Tony.

[Laura Lee]

Well, from the viewfinder.

[Manny Mua]

Does it. It literally does. But we're going to a Galentine's dinner, so that's. We're in peace.

[Laura Lee]

The tea.

[Manny Mua]

We're Valentine's dinner softness. Look, I'm even wearing. Look at my shoe.

[Laura Lee]

That's a clown.

[Manny Mua]

That is a clown shoe.

[Laura Lee]

It looks cute.

[Manny Mua]

I like this. It's a vibe. But anyways, you guys, let's go and start with peek and pick first. I said peek and pig. I'm actually delusional because we're filming at night time and I'm not used to this.

[Laura Lee]

Maybe I have a little energy. I hope I don't have low energy.

[Manny Mua]

You're gonna be. Yeah. Activate. Activate. Holy spirit. Literally you right now.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, I'll calm down, but tell us. Tell us something.

[Manny Mua]

Okay, I think I'm gonna do two pits.

[Laura Lee]

That's juicier.

[Manny Mua]

I'm gonna do Two pits instead of a peak and a pit. First pit. I had a choking scare today with Z. Oh, I thought you're like laughing at me. No, I had a toing scare with today and some. She obviously she's a very small dog, so small dogs tend to. It's easier for them to choke on like even small things. So I fed her today, but I gave her some of my rice I had. So I gave her some rice and then she starts kind of like coughing. And she's had it before where she's coughed and like kind of like was choking. But she was fine, right? She was good. Why are you smirking?

[Laura Lee]

I don't know.

[Manny Mua]

Can you imagine me like this?

[Laura Lee]

I am, I can.

[Manny Mua]

So. But the thing is when she starts to walk towards me, I'm like, fuck, she's choking. Because it's almost like she needs to be like by me while she's choking. She feels like things safer. So I start to like pat her on the back and like do like mini dog Heimlich like on her stomach. Like, you think I'm fucking lying? I mean dead foggy ass right now. I'm literally like this.

[Laura Lee]

By the way.

[Manny Mua]

Yes. I like Google day. I was like, how do you do it? So I'm doing like the little mini Heimlich, but you can do. She's six pounds. Like I'm. I'm doing like a little like two finger thrusting behind her and she's like, like kind of like choking. So I look at her and I'm like, okay, let me go do the finger swiping method to see if I can get anything from inside. So I go in and nothing is there, but her tongue is blue. So I start like actually literally panicking at this point because I'm like, holy. Her tongue is blue. Like she's actually like really choking. So I like jump up immediately and then I grab her and I grab my keys and I run down the stairs. So I'm like, I'm just gonna take her to the hospital right now. No appointment. I'm just gonna run and be like, she's choking, I need help like immediately. So as I'm running downstairs got dislodged. Oh my God. Because like the friction of me going downstairs and like you? Yeah, she was. I'm holding her and I'm jumping down the stairs.

[Laura Lee]

Fixed her.

[Manny Mua]

She's like going down the stairs with me.

[Laura Lee]

She was like, she was like.

[Manny Mua]

So that I got into my car and she's looking at me like, what are we doing? No longer coughing. She's looking at me like, she just lays on my lap, like, ready to go on a fudgeing ride. I'm like, are you good? Like, are you fudgeing fine? And she said, I look. Of course I look at her like, her tongue is going back to pink. She's starting to, like, starts breathing back to, like, normal. And so I, like, literally. And I can tell because when I was giving her her mini Heimlich, her heart was, like, palpitating. It was, like, pounding so hard. So I'm like. She's, like, really, like, in distress right now. So I finally, like, luckily, like, going down the stairs rapidly actually dislodged whatever was lodged. Like, either the rice or, like, her little pieces of food. Me running, sweeping down this. No, literally flopping down because I was, like, panicking. So luckily, we didn't have to go to the hospital. We have to do anything.

[Laura Lee]

My God, she's good.

[Manny Mua]

So that was my favorite, by the way. Oh, is me.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, yeah.

[Manny Mua]

You're gonna.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Because I'm like a. I'm a panicker in that situation. But I'm trying to. I'm a panicker. But the thing is, because she has before gotten a little, like, chokey, and everything has been fine. I'm like, okay. Like, I'm a little bit less panicky with that situation. The second I saw her tongue turn blue, that's when I started to really panic. So I'm like, her tongue is pink, obviously.

[Laura Lee]

I don't think one of our cats have ever choked. Ever.

[Manny Mua]

Yoshi's never choked in her life.

[Laura Lee]

Never. What is that dog?

[Manny Mua]

Literally, all the time. All the time.

[Laura Lee]

Big dog, small dogs.

[Manny Mua]

Yoshi would floss.

[Laura Lee]

Why don't cats choke?

[Manny Mua]

I don't know. They. But they get hairball, too.

[Laura Lee]

They eat their food a little slower, I think, also.

[Manny Mua]

Okay. But their food is, like, almost, like, wet. Like, lapping food. Like, it's not, like, chunks. I think that makes a difference.

[Laura Lee]

Maybe so.

[Manny Mua]

Because, like, their food, like, I've seen your cat's food. It's literally, like.

[Laura Lee]

Or tiny little pebbles for the dry.

[Manny Mua]

Like, they're so minuscule. And so I'm like, oh, I wonder if that makes a huge difference, because they're not actually, like, chewing food as much.

[Laura Lee]

Totally.

[Manny Mua]

You know what's one of yours?

[Laura Lee]

My shirt exploded. Right? I have so many fashion malfunctions.

[Manny Mua]

These last two weeks, it's been brutal. And these last two weeks, I need

[Laura Lee]

to get it together.

[Manny Mua]

Fashion faux pas.

[Laura Lee]

I mean, I literally was, like, ready to walk out the door, and I Had a corset top underneath this blazer. And the zipper went. And I felt a release of air, like.

[Manny Mua]

And you're like, oh. It was like.

[Laura Lee]

I was like, tied. It come unzipped. He was like, no, it explodes.

[Manny Mua]

It's actually like. Like cannabiscus.

[Laura Lee]

Yes. He's like, it's ruined, babe.

[Manny Mua]

No.

[Laura Lee]

Yes.

[Manny Mua]

So that's why you had a change.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I had a change, but. And then my skirt last night.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, wait, did the pin pop?

[Laura Lee]

The pin popped and it must have shot across the room because I couldn't find it. So I was literally holding.

[Manny Mua]

She had a really cute outfit on yesterday.

[Laura Lee]

It was cute.

[Manny Mua]

And then suddenly her skirt is falling down and you're seeing skims everywhere.

[Laura Lee]

Damn. You saw that with scam. That means my ass was me talking itself.

[Manny Mua]

Like. And I saw skins.

[Laura Lee]

Damn.

[Manny Mua]

She's like, you saw skins? I sure did.

[Laura Lee]

That l'. Oreal. That my dress expl.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, my God, you're right, Laura.

[Laura Lee]

It's crazy.

[Podcast Listener/Caller]

Holy.

[Manny Mua]

I completely forgot that it, like, literally burst in.

[Laura Lee]

The skirt was a small. The dress from Revol was a small. The top was a small because.

[Manny Mua]

But small is so relative.

[Laura Lee]

See? It is so relative.

[Manny Mua]

Like, you don't know.

[CoverGirl Announcer]

It could be.

[Manny Mua]

It could be like, extra small sizes. It's so stupid. I wish, like, there was universal, actual.

[Laura Lee]

I needed a medium top tonight, a medium dress, and then an extra small skirt. It's tough with online shopping.

[Manny Mua]

It is super, super hard. That's why a lot of people like to go in store and actually do

[Laura Lee]

a stylist and get fit it for every little thing.

[Manny Mua]

But getting fit for every little thing sounds tedious. Sounds really tedious. Or you do like, just like one big go of one day and you're trying on every fit.

[Laura Lee]

I kind of have, like, fun choosing my own outfits. I know. You still choose your own outfits with a stylist and then just guide you with better and cooler pieces.

[Manny Mua]

You're like, you know, you just had a full realization in the moment. You're like, you know what should be bursting on me.

[Laura Lee]

You know what? Yes.

[Manny Mua]

Maybe it's worth it. And that might be actually. That is crazy.

[Laura Lee]

It's nuts.

[Manny Mua]

That was literally crazy. My other pit is that I got laser hair removal today.

[Laura Lee]

Oh, I know.

[Manny Mua]

And I get. I get laser removal every, like, three or four months because I get both talks at the same time. I just do like a one, a one go. I know. It's my. It's like my. It's my shot, you know, it's my beauty. It's like My little.

[Laura Lee]

So watching that.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, my God.

[Laura Lee]

Yep.

[Manny Mua]

Okay, wait. Okay, let me finish this. So then I. So I usually don't get it on the back of my neck. Because for me, getting laser on the back of your neck here, it actually feels like fire for me. I don't know what it is. I'd maybe just have thicker, darker hair. Like, it just really burns like a. But today I was like, I'll do it, but you need to lower the level. Like two. Like, two levels lower. And I need you to go extremely slow. Like, I'm talking like, one, two. Not like. No, can't do that for me. So we did that. But I literally am so inflamed in the back of my head.

[Laura Lee]

Feel better?

[Manny Mua]

It would hurt like a. Like, it literally. You guys, it hurts so bad. And there's something about, like. Because the thing is, it start. The second starts to get into, like, your hairline a little bit. That's when those pops. They are just fire.

[Laura Lee]

They're like frying the follicle.

[Manny Mua]

Yes. And I think that's why you feel like fire. Like, I literally feel like I'm getting hit with fudgeing flames. So right now I have, like, a really bad reaction, and I actually am really going. And it was today. So I have this reaction right now. And we're going to a fudgeing event right now, and I have fudgeing chicken

[Laura Lee]

skin all over my folliculitis.

[Manny Mua]

I have folliculitis, literally folliculitis on the back of my fucking neck. And I don't want to put foundation over it. So I'm like, what if I irritate it more?

[Laura Lee]

I think you'll irritate it.

[Manny Mua]

So then I was like, I'm just going to let it. I'm just going to let it live. I'm just going to let it be. But people are looking behind me tonight. It's literally just going to be red polka dots.

[Laura Lee]

We got to get you against a wall. I need to be against how find that seat tonight. I'm be like, is there a st.

[Manny Mua]

Do not go behind me. Don't piss me off.

[Laura Lee]

The back of my shirt pulled out and your neck move up like this. I do not walk by.

[Manny Mua]

Do not walk behind you.

[Laura Lee]

We are a walking disaster.

[Manny Mua]

We're walking disaster right now. So don't even start with me. So I'm really. And the thing is, I remember I got it last time on my back a little. It lasted like four days. Like, I had folliculitis for four days.

[Laura Lee]

A little down time. Fanny's taking downtime for that laser.

[Manny Mua]

I'm taking down time for my laser hair removal. This is sick. It's sick.

[Laura Lee]

I'm literally like, that is hilarious. You.

[Manny Mua]

Of course I'm taking down time for my folliculitis ass. It makes sense for me, unfortunately. But, yeah, I'm just going through the gigs personally.

[Laura Lee]

Let's talk about the show. Beauty for my peak. Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

I'm so glad I finally watched that. You are watching it. How many episodes have you watched?

[Laura Lee]

I think we watched all of them. No, Ty, No. Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Oh, you're caught up. Completely. You guys. So I did, like, a. I worked with the Beauty, like, fx. Like, did like, a little interview thing with Megan and with Amelia and I. They sent me the few episodes beforehand, and I was like, bro, this is, like, really sickening. Like, I'm really enjoying it. And so I told her. I was like, you guys have to watch it when it comes out on tv. And I was like, I think five episodes out, and it's basically like the substance meets American Horror Story.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Like, that's genuinely how I feel about it also.

[Laura Lee]

It's so American Horror Story coded beyond. It's like. But I felt like the past. The last few seasons, American Horse Story was not good anymore. Like, flops. And then I feel like this is really good.

[Manny Mua]

This is literally, like, what it should be.

[CoverGirl Announcer]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

What it.

[Manny Mua]

What American hor. Should have been. Because the concept is really cool. I mean, obviously, the concept is ever. So basically you just take. It's like a. There's like, a disease going around, but then that disease, like, makes you. It puts you back to your, like, most, like, elite form. So it makes you, like, really beautiful, but it's like people are dying from it.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. It also has a bad side effect and.

[Manny Mua]

Has a really bad side effect. So it's like. It's a really interesting concept. That's why I said it's like, kind of the substance where it's like you turn into younger, hotter self. It's very. That vibes.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

But I love that you're fully caught up.

[Laura Lee]

Such a good show.

[Manny Mua]

The scene with that one, like, hot guy that turned. That was. It was Ben. Yeah, Ben Platt.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

When he turned into, like, that hot ass man and they're like, naked wrestling.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, I know.

[CoverGirl Announcer]

You were.

[Manny Mua]

I was literally chubbed. I'm not even gonna deny that.

[Laura Lee]

I really like the storyline. I love Evan Peters, girl.

[Manny Mua]

He's so good.

[Laura Lee]

I feel like Evan Peters, like, when he reads the script, he decides if he's gonna be it. You know, he's like, is this good?

[Manny Mua]

And he must like Randy Murphy stuff because, yeah, it' Ryan Murphy show. And he's done a lot of Ryan Murphy things and I bet he read it and he was like, oh, this

[CoverGirl Announcer]

is what I'm talking about.

[Laura Lee]

He doesn't do a lot outside of Ryan, which is so interesting because he's so talented and, you know, he could get what he wanted. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, but he kind of keeps it with Ryan Murphy, which he does great.

[Manny Mua]

He has some amazing stuff with him.

[Laura Lee]

He did, yeah. Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

So it's really good. I. I recommend 100. I just think it's such a good show and it's something like really camp. And like their whole. They told me they're like, the goal is like a camp. Like a camp horror, but very camp. Over the top dramatic. And I can tell by the script because even when they're doing the like Conde Nast, I was literally like, this is so funny because I've really been to Conde Nast.

[Laura Lee]

Have you?

[Manny Mua]

Yeah, yeah, I think you have to 100%. We've done it in the past. We've done like press over there and it's so funny seeing these people like talking and like Meghan Trainor in it. Like, what are you talking about? It's so weirdly accurate.

[Laura Lee]

Yes, yes.

[Manny Mua]

In a way.

[Laura Lee]

So accurate.

[Manny Mua]

It was so real. I was literally like, this is really real.

[Laura Lee]

So it's great conversations.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Okay. We have a really interesting episode because we want to give advice, but we asked a few people who we thought we had really good typed out things to send in a voice note so we could get more to know about the situation a little bit more. We've seen a couple other podcasts. You know, you play the sound of the person telling us what's going on so we can really get in there.

[Manny Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Manny Mua]

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[Manny Mua]

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[Manny Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Manny Mua]

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[Manny Mua]

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[Laura Lee]

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[Manny Mua]

So why don't we start one? I'm not going to of course call out anyone's names if you hear Your voice. You hear your voice. We've gone. So we got so many. So I'm not. We're not going to be able to hit all of them or anything. But we're going to start off with our first me turn my volume all the way up. Our first voice note.

[Podcast Listener/Caller]

I am going to be using fake names for this story. I want to start off by saying that Carol and this story is recently divorced for about a year now. So it started when us three went on a work trip and I overheard. I'm going to say, pete, say baby, let's go. When we were out having drinks. Not long after that trip, they both started having almost an hour lunch together. Mind you, lunch is only 30 minutes. And it gradually started happening every day. They both would come back from lunch, heat up their food and still eat in their own offices. They even hang out in one of their cars for an hour after work on some days. In my opinion, I would not be okay with my husband hanging out with a girl, much less someone who is divorced that often. Everyone at work started seeing them and people would tell him, like, hey, people are talking about you guys. But nothing ever changed. They both work very close together now and do all their work together. Prior to any of this, he would go and chat with multiple co workers, but ever since has stopped since they started hanging out more. There was one day a week that he comes into work late and on that day she always finds an excuse to come in late for some reason schedules her appointments on that day in the morning. They also go on business trips together, mind you, alone. It's pretty obvious at this point what is going on from some and from someone who has gotten cheated on before. I feel like it's only right to tell the wife what she. What's going on and you know, what she does with this information. It's on her. But multiple people have suggested to not get involved and stay out of it.

[Manny Mua]

So basically she's asking for advice on like what? Like, basically a Mary co worker is having an affair. Do I. Because. And she's been cheated on before. So she's like, should I tell the wife?

[Laura Lee]

Have you ever known someone that was cheating and didn't tell?

[Manny Mua]

No, I haven't. Do you? I've never. I've never. I've never known that. Like, I don't know.

[Laura Lee]

So you weren't put in this situation?

[Manny Mua]

No, I've never been put in the situation before.

[Laura Lee]

I don't know if I was like put in the situation. I mean, I guess I am.

[Manny Mua]

If you Thrust upon you.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. And I was like, I'm not gonna be in the middle of this atomic bomb. Like, I'm just not interested in blowing up my life by blowing up other people's. But then, of course, I felt bad, but I was like, this is, like, going to be atomic.

[Manny Mua]

Like, if I. I understand what, like, when she's saying that, like, other people are telling her, like, hey, like, don't involve yourself because it's not your life.

[Laura Lee]

It's a big.

[Manny Mua]

But she feels a thing because she's been cheated on. So it's like. Like, I also. I wonder if, for me, I would be thinking, is my getting up worth saying something?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

Or is it not? Because the thing is, at the end of the day, you work with them. You see them in proximity constantly. So is it going to be worse anonymously? That's true. That. Could it be a little drop a

[Laura Lee]

drop a little and walk away.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. Or like, send an anonymous email.

[Laura Lee]

I also feel bad for his wife. Now the other woman's divorced.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

But I feel bad for his wife. So I'm also, like, I want her to know.

[Manny Mua]

I literally feel the exact. Like, I would want them to know. The hard part is just, like, you know, getting involved in someone's lives and

[Laura Lee]

they work together with both of them. Sure.

[Manny Mua]

I think, Laura, I think literally what you said about doing an anonymous tip I think is actually probably the best way of like, going about it, because, you know, you're technically not involved. Like, it's not coming back to bite you specifically in the ass when you work with these people, but you're still letting her know. And, like, at the end of the day, what the wife decides to do

[Laura Lee]

with the information, she decides she wants to dig deeper. If she wants to bring it up, like, what she wants to do, that it's. Your hands are clean.

[Manny Mua]

Exactly. And you can also, like, in the anonymous, like, thing, you can, like, minor details to know that it's real. Or be like, hey, like, this is, like, something that they do that if you, like, drive by this time, maybe you'll see them.

[Laura Lee]

So, like, I feel like, imagine the lunch break.

[Manny Mua]

Girl. Girl. That's what I'm saying. I feel like that would be a really, like, smart way of getting her to know without you getting caught up completely.

[Laura Lee]

I feel like.

[Manny Mua]

Would you, like, write a note or would you, like, type it out? Would you send a Facebook message?

[Laura Lee]

Newspaper clippings of each letter?

[Manny Mua]

No, you would not.

[Laura Lee]

I'm just kidding.

[Manny Mua]

Six years.

[Laura Lee]

Type out what I. What I've configured or What? You know, you might want to meet them at this time. Like how much you want to give. Yep, you decide that. Type it out because you can't read typing as a handprint. Sign my name.

[Manny Mua]

Sign your initial. Damn your job, your description.

[Laura Lee]

Oh my God. I would. How do we get the note? No, I would just write her. I find her email, social media. You would find herself an account and then write her that way. Hello is 2026. What am I talking about? Writing a note. What am to melt too?

[Manny Mua]

Exactly. You're gonna. But I think you just have to create an anonymous account. Yeah, that's all you have to do is create anonymous account, be devious ass and then get it to her.

[Laura Lee]

And your hands are clean.

[Manny Mua]

And you're clean. I think that's the best. Honestly though, I think that's the best. I think you kind of chewed with that answer.

[Laura Lee]

Wow, thank you.

[Manny Mua]

I think you kind of chewed. I ain't gonna lie. Okay, let's see. We have another one.

[Laura Lee]

Okay, let's see.

[Podcast Listener/Caller]

Any advice on navigating friendships in your early 20s? Been having a hard time lately and you guys have such an amazing friendship. Been following you guys since like I was in middle school. And literally your guys's friendship is my goal.

[Manny Mua]

That is the kids give her fucking heard. It's also just so nice hearing your guys's actual voices to like say something. It's so like endearing and heartwarming for me. I haven't listened to these voice notes. I wanted just to kind of play them like, and see like what was being said.

[Laura Lee]

But some people say the most intricate stuff to me. So I posted a tick tock today and they were like, I was talking about everyone should floss. And they were like, but you leave floss piles and you do be. They remember the episode, that little moment, and you were like, get your floss.

[Manny Mua]

Get your piles out of here. And I love that they remember that.

[Laura Lee]

Damn, we're really connected here.

[Manny Mua]

It's the truth. I mean, honestly, advice wise about that. First of all, just thank you. That's such a sweet message. And you know, I think that people forget that friendship is supposed to be easy and it's supposed to be honestly simple because when you have a good friend, it shouldn't feel hard. And I think that when you find a connection that feels seamless, that is the kind of friendships you like actually want to hold on to because you guys are on the same like, wavelength. And I think that it really is about putting yourself out there and trying to make connections, doing social Things. Me joining a volleyball league. I'm not saying I'm trying to find new friends, but it's. That's a way. I'm not really trying to find new friends. For me, it was. I wanted to play, but that is a great way for people to make new friends. Going to the gym, maybe even signing up for actual, like, classes. Like, gym classes. I'm sure you've met people there that. The classes that you become, like, acquaintances with and cool with. But.

[Laura Lee]

Or what will even happen is if someone sees that you've taken up that hobby, other people that do that hobby that you might know but not hang out with a lot may ping you and be like, oh, let's go work out together. Or like, oh, I see you doing. I do that similar interests will attract people to you. So that's also. Will we bring. So. And also. Okay. I believe it was the let them book that told me this from Mel Robbins. And it was talking about making friends in your 20 or just throughout life. Compliment people. She said, literally, she was like, just be like, oh, I like your shoes. Or hey, how are you? Like, two.

[Manny Mua]

I actually do that when I'm.

[Laura Lee]

And she said, doing.

[Manny Mua]

I'm like, wanting to meet someone. I compliment people, actually.

[Laura Lee]

It literally works. Like, if you take workout classes and like, like the girl next to you is just sitting there. Compliment her.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

And get a little. It'll get a little conversation started. And it was just basically saying it's such a safe way to start friendship or, you know, camaraderie between two people. Because if it doesn't, you just complimented them and they said thank you.

[Manny Mua]

Exactly. That's the bare minimum.

[Laura Lee]

Bare minimum is a positive experience. Either way, you'll feel good, they'll feel good, but it's the best way to start a conversation with a stranger is complimenting them.

[Manny Mua]

Hunt, I. It's so funny you say that, because the other day, I always see this guy at the gym. I think he's hot, but I know he's straight, but he just seems like a cool. He just gives me cool guy vibes.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

And he had. And he has, like, a kid, and he always has him in, like, the babysitting section of the gym. So they're babysitting, and then, like, we were getting shakes at the same time. And it was raining outside. And the little kid had, like, the tiniest rain boots I've ever seen. And I literally look over him. I was like, those are the cutest little rainbows I've ever seen. That's like, that's so you're such a good dad. And so he was like, thank you so much. Like, I really appreciate that. And, like, we didn't, like, keep talking or chatting, but I just thought it would be, like, a nice compliment for someone that I just. I felt it, so I said it. And I think that that is such a great way of just making some type of connection. And, like, I'm not. Like I said, I don't think that, you know, like, he's gay or anything. And I just wanted to be, like, nice in that moment because I was like, oh, that's so sweet. Like, you seem like a great dad. I think people appreciate that. I appreciate getting complimented when I'm doing something worthy of complimenting, you know? And it doesn't mean that I'm, like, gonna be besties with you, but it means that, like, oh, my God, I appreciate that we had this, like, little interaction.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

So I think the company thing is, like, a huge, huge, like, gateway, because

[Laura Lee]

sometimes it's like, you get in these classes or you get into this hobby, and then you're like, well, how do

[Manny Mua]

I like what I did?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, you're like, how do I get it going?

[Manny Mua]

But, like, especially, like, you can bring up their form. Like, you were eating that class up.

[Podcast Listener/Caller]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

That is so easy. Even in volleyball when people are like, like, I made friends with one of them because they were like, oh, my God, I saw you peppering. That was really good. And I was like, thanks. So that's how we. I became, like, actually friendly with them,

[Laura Lee]

like, because they complimented, like, your vibe, and it's like, something I was doing there. Like, your vibe. Like, you're so. You probably think that person's cool or, like.

[Manny Mua]

Exactly. I'm like, oh, you're complimenting me.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Manny Mua]

You're not full of yourself. I genuinely also think there's a thing with, like. Like, people that don't compliment people are. Tend to be pretty full of themselves, I think, and, like, they want to be, like, the only one that gets complimented.

[Laura Lee]

So that will, like, kind of maybe ward off those conversations because, you know, like, they're not talking to people. So I would say what Manny said. Do things, do classes, Put yourself out there, like, whatever little hobby or little interest you could be a part of, and that will attract people in itself that have, like, similar things. And then also, whenever you get in there, compliment people.

[Manny Mua]

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[Podcast Listener/Caller]

Hey Lauren, Manny, Just want to say I love you guys. Love the pod. I never miss a Friday. I wanted Some advice from you, Laura. What would you say is the key to keeping your marriage exciting and long lasting?

[Manny Mua]

How cute.

[Laura Lee]

So sweet. Ty, how long we've been married? 10 years.

[Manny Mua]

11. Married 11.

[Laura Lee]

We're coming. We're about to be 11. Gosh. You know what? We do things together. I mean, and we do so much together, but we enjoy each other's company because we're friends. So we're able to do things together. Enjoy that time together.

[Manny Mua]

I said butsa we do not do

[Laura Lee]

but stuff that has not kept it spicy.

[Manny Mua]

I'm like, I heard. But.

[Laura Lee]

We like ride bikes together. We do Legos together. I mean we cook hobbies together. We have hobbies together. Like we don't just sit down and watch TV at the end of every day. And we do do that too. But I'm just saying like there's more to our relationship that we travel together. We do so much together. And I think. Oh, and also another self development thing. They said seeing your partner try something

[Manny Mua]

new gives you the ick.

[Laura Lee]

No, it literally is the opposite. Or like, like seeing your partner do something, whether like they want to play guitar or they want to start golfing. And like seeing your partner do that activity is like a natural attraction that can make you like re attracted to your partner. I've never seen him go in real life.

[Manny Mua]

I don't think you'd want to. I don't think you'd want to. But I, I think that's really good. I honestly think that like whenever I even hear that, it's like, I think it's the thing it stays spicy because you're actually like doing things constantly together and you're not being like sedentary.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah, it's like a relationship, but also there's a friendship in there too.

[Manny Mua]

I think that's really important because you actually want to be able to hang out with your.

[Laura Lee]

Not work tv, not work, eat tv, bed, work, eat. You know, we try to get. Especially if you have a weekend or like a day free and afternoo free to like put that time in with one another to do something. And it doesn't have to be expensive and it does. You mean you're a freaking park. You can go on afternoon walks together. It can be free. Like it's just something that you do together without your kids. Or maybe your kids are there. Maybe you just pull some time aside for just you too. I think it goes a really long way in a relationship.

[Manny Mua]

That's really cute. I love that. And I, and I agree. I would know, but I agree And I'm taking your guys's your heat on that one. See, what's this next one?

[G]

Hi guys. So my question was, is it normal to start missing old friendships that were toxic? Like I'm talking about 10 plus years of not talking to these people and all of a sudden you just start thinking about them and thinking about all the good times, you know, because even with toxic relationships, I feel like, like most of the time they were good, but those bad times were really bad. So I don't know, I'm just curious. Am I the only one that's like reminiscing and kind of thinking, damn, should I, should I reach out to them? But then I'm like, no, that was my question. Thank you guys.

[Laura Lee]

I think sometimes whenever you find yourself in a state where you're a little bit lonely or maybe you're just going through a hard time, you remember the relationships a little bit different a hundred, your brain will remind you of all those good times and you'll suddenly forget like the pain or the anguish that cause you to end the friendship. Like your brain will play tricks on you, it'll suddenly disappear.

[Manny Mua]

It absolutely happens.

[Laura Lee]

It happens.

[CoverGirl Announcer]

So normal.

[Manny Mua]

That's super normal. And I think our brain like does that to like protect us in some ways and it wants you to forget the traumatic things. So it's like, I think that's actually a huge part of why people sometimes say like, oh, it maybe wasn't that bad because you're like, brain is actively trying to forget the traumatic situations because it doesn't want to hold on to it. Your brain naturally wants to be like, happy, good, wants to go somewhere else.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. Also there's 8 billion people in the world. Pick someone else. Pick someone else. You already know that one didn't work out and like, why risk it again? And I know it's like you put time into it and like you got to know each other and like you probably love that person as a friend, but pick someone else. I know it's scary to put yourself out there, like reopen another relationship and like find someone that. Because the thing is, it's hard with friends is finding someone that meshes with like your vibe and your life.

[Manny Mua]

Like, do you guys like actually like intermingle easily?

[Laura Lee]

Easily.

[Manny Mua]

That's what like, is it like normal? Like can you guys like do nothing but do a lot at the same time and be completely normal? It's like there's, there's a lot of, you know, differences, like when it comes to that kind of thing, but the similarities need to be like, like similar. Like they need to be.

[Laura Lee]

That's where I feel like it gets tough finding a person that you really enjoy being around.100.

[Manny Mua]

But the thing is, at the end of the day, it is normal. It is super normal to feel like, damn, I kind of miss them. Because you will think about the good times and it doesn't mean that you didn't have the good times, but you have to remind your brain that you're like, you know what? There was a reason that things ended. There was a reason. And at the end of the day too, if you don't see that that person has like changed or try to change or see change in them, if you try to go back into that, it's just going to be a never ending cycle. So at the end of the day, it's better for your own piece. Move on. Exactly. Fool me once, you know, shame on you.

[Laura Lee]

But you get burned again.

[Manny Mua]

It's like, I went in there and I should have been there. So I think that's really important.

[Laura Lee]

I agree, Manny. I think it's so normal, like, because you'll. Your brain will think of just the happiest, funniest moments and you're like, that was good. That was good. I missed that. And it's like, yeah, you gotta catch yourself.

[Manny Mua]

And like, as I'm telling you, like, your brain will make you want to forget the harder things. Because it's happened to me many times where I've been like, oh, I don't remember me like that. And then like, I'll be reminded. I was like, oh, it was like, not good. Like, and then that, like, it triggers me and then I'm alerted again where I'm like, oh, I. My brain was like playing, was like playing games with my mind.

[Laura Lee]

I think it's good to try to remember the good stuff because you know what I mean? It's like if you. It feels good, like it, like that

[Manny Mua]

was like you want to remember that. Good things.

[Laura Lee]

It is. But you just have to remember. You just have to remember very vividly

[Manny Mua]

and clearly that there's not good things.

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[Laura Lee]

And that's why we're apart.

[Manny Mua]

So it can be very spooky. Let's see, one second. Like making sure I'm not here. Hold on.

[Laura Lee]

Hey, Manny.

[Podcast Listener/Caller]

Hey, Nora. How do you deal with a chronic negative friend?

[Manny Mua]

Okay, here, I'll play it again.

[Podcast Listener/Caller]

Hey, Manny. Hey, Laura. How do you deal with a chronic negative friend?

[Laura Lee]

Poor little baby. Our poor little baby, honey, she's tired.

[Manny Mua]

She's over the fucking friend of this negative, she's over this bitch ass friend

[Laura Lee]

that she has over it.

[Manny Mua]

You know what's funny? I think that dealing with friendships as you get older is really different than dealing with friendships when you're younger. And I think that it's really about what you start to put up with and it really is how you treat yourself, is how you kind of like treat the people around you. So for example, if you feel good about yourself, if you feel happy, if you feel like my life is sickening, if there's someone in your life that's really, really negative, you're not gonna want to be around that because your life is sickening. So I think that when you get older you realize like, oh, I don't actually have to be their friend anymore.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

So I think there's a really big, you know, there's a really big thing with that that you just have to like. As you get older, you realize more what you're willing to put up with.

[Laura Lee]

Also it's like danger, danger darling. Because it's like you are who you hang around, unfortunately, and you can try your best. But like, if you're around a negative person enough, it is gonna rub off on.

[Manny Mua]

It seeps in.

[Laura Lee]

The old saying is, you know, take the top five people that are around you the most, name one word to characterize each person and those five words describe you. So you really have to seek that in and be like, I'm a pretty big stickler about super negative people. Like, I don't like it because I feel like I'm like, you're going to get on to me.

[CoverGirl Announcer]

Like I.

[Manny Mua]

Because it will seep in.

[Laura Lee]

You know what? It's so easy to be negative. And that's why I feel spooked by it because I'm like, don't rub off on me now.

[Manny Mua]

Exactly.

[Laura Lee]

I try to say positive over here. I'm trying to see, I'm trying to see the good shit. Don't come over here with your gray clown.

[Manny Mua]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

And I have people going through a hard time. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about like, like she said ironically, negative in Eeyore.

[Manny Mua]

Also, what I think is really important too, as grown ups and as adults, you can have different rings of friendship for people. They don't need to be in your inner circle. They can be on an outer circle. They can be on a outer, outer circle.

[Laura Lee]

Like me and Manny. They go in a different category, they

[Manny Mua]

go to a different category, they go

[Laura Lee]

to a different ring acquaintance.

[Manny Mua]

There's, there's literally an inner.

[Laura Lee]

Inner bump down.

[Manny Mua]

And then they go.

[Laura Lee]

Yep. They get on. They get further.

[Manny Mua]

It's the rings of a tree. Think of the rings of a tree. There's that little center one where it's like your Judy's, your sisters. You're like divas. And the next one, I was like, your friends. Like, you can see you. My friend, my guess, period. And then there's the outer, which are like more acquaintance.

[Laura Lee]

You see them every now and again.

[Manny Mua]

Yes. So I think that when we get older, we're allowed to move up and down people out of these rings of our lives. And it just depends on what you're feeling in that moment, what you're feeling in that time. For example, let's say this is a good, good friend of yours. But they're always negative. They don't have to be a good, good friend of yours anymore.

[Laura Lee]

I had to cut them out a little bit.

[Manny Mua]

You might have to kind of put them into a different ring. You might have to kind of reassess. And when you think of it that way, the analogy helps me. It really does help me a lot. Because sometimes it's hard to think in our brain confuses us with things and we're like, how do we feel? But when you think about it in that. The way where it's like rings of a tree, then you're like, okay, well, maybe they just get moved on to a different one. And it doesn't mean I have to be ending soon with them. It doesn't mean I have to hate them. It just means that we're not going to be that closest ring anymore.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

And that is okay.

[Laura Lee]

Slowly back off and you can back away. Like, you know, I'm exiling this person.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

Like, they're done. They're dead to me. It doesn't have to be that way. It could be like, so. And like, honestly, find a positive person in your life or if there's someone you're gravitating towards that's a little more positive. I'm not saying replace that person, but move them on in, honey.

[Manny Mua]

If also like at the too. Like, you can. Yeah. As you're moving people out, you can move people in. Like, if you have people in your life that you're like, oh, my God, I really genuinely like being around you, but they're not that close with you. Well, you can make strides to be closer you.

[Laura Lee]

And you can also make suggestion and strides to this negative person. But at the end of the day, you don't control anyone. And if a person is negative. It is not your job to try to turn them into a positive person. Like, I don't want to let this friend go, but I don't want them to be negative. That's their choice. That's not your choice. It's their choice to be negative. And, like, if you want to bring that case to the table and be like, hey, you're stupid, super fucking negative, babe, you got to work on it. You got to figure that out. We got to figure this out. That's great and all, but if it doesn't change is move on.

[Manny Mua]

And honestly, you guys, sometimes friends don't want to hear it. I'm gonna be real. Sometimes people aren't the type of people that will actually listen to reason about things, and they will actually probably try to spin their narrative to be like, it about you being the bad one. So sometimes I have had this in my life when I have not been able to stay friends with someone, and I've had to put them in a different ring of my life where I was like, I can't even really tell you why. Because you've been trying to manipulate me.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

And it's something so apparent and so obvious, and I'm no longer going to give you the grace of that. Because if you're going to gaslight manipulate me into thinking I'm the evil person, then I don't need to be around that anymore.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

And even, like. And I've tried. I've done it where multiple times I've had different friends in my life where I have tried to talk to them about something, and then they gaslighted me to note to say that I was the bad one. But, like, Like, But I'm the one that had the feelings hurt. So what are you actually talking about?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

So I think that when multiple cases like, that you.

[Laura Lee]

Because they're mad. Because you're mad.

[Manny Mua]

Because you're mad at them. Exactly. So that's a huge, like, red flag. It's like, if you're like, also, like, what, They're a pessimistic narcissist. Where it's like. And they're a narcissist. So it really just kind of depends how you're feeling, what ring you want to put people in. If you put the analogy in that way with the rings, I think it will help. Like, it's helped me a lot where I was like, okay, well, I just want them in my most inner circle anymore. Doesn't mean I hate them. I just want them in my inner circle, you know?

[Laura Lee]

That's right.

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[Manny Mua]

okay, and we have one more left. Let's see.

[Caller with Marriage Question]

Okay, so this is what I need advice on. I am a mid-30s white female married to a mid-20s immigrant Dominican and we got married very quickly. But this year we will be married for five years. I did not know until well after I married him that he is pro Trump. I am very not pro Trump. And this has caused quite a few arguments in our marriage as it seems our morals are different. I need advice on if there's any way to maintain our marriage or if it's eventually going to come

[CoverGirl Announcer]

to a,

[Caller with Marriage Question]

to blow up because of our differences. It's just, it's very difficult right now. We're definitely not seeing eye to eye on a lot of things, especially in the current political climate.

[Manny Mua]

That is so hard. That is so fucking tough.

[Laura Lee]

I would say, like I would say before you marry someone I know, she said they got married abruptly. So it sounds like there wasn't a lot of time time to get to know each other, which is so important. And I think that you should 100 before you marry anyone. I don't care if you're engaged. One of the main, main, main things to before you get married, it, the main reason to pick someone to marry is to make sure your values and morals align. If they do not, you should not. I don't think you should marry that person. And that's why sometimes these abrupt marriages put you in these situations that suck. You know what I mean? Because it's like that should have been a big Topic before you ever married someone. 100 and so if something like that came out after, it's like, damn, that's tough. We're like so deep woman to leave her man.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah.

[Laura Lee]

You know what I mean? But also, I do think for a successful marriage, like, values have to align. I'm a human.

[Manny Mua]

I cannot agree more. I think that her just you even asking for the advice, I feel like in a way I'm like, you kind of know.

[Laura Lee]

You know your answer, girl.

[Manny Mua]

You kind of know your answer. I think that this is one of those situations. If you do not have the same literal moral compass, that inner, inner voice of one another, then I actually just don't think it's going to work long haul. And so sometimes I think that it's better to end things before it gets to even a fiercer place. You guys been together for five years. What if you have. What if it's even fiercer intent?

[Laura Lee]

Yeah.

[Manny Mua]

You know what I mean? I think that it's technically, it would be better to end things and also if you guys are actually actively battling about it, like actually having arguments about it, I don't think there's ever going to be a world where either one of you is going to want to succumb to the other's opinion. Because at the end of the day, your opinion is what your opinion is. And it's more of a value and moral thing. It's like deep inside, it's not about, like, it's not just a difference of opinion. It's literally like how you feel. It's morally like, that's your voucher values. You know, that's your value. That's literally what you're like. Your inner core.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. So that's big. That's the actual thing. It's the biggest thing. And the only reason I bring up, you know, hammering in, like, you should definitely check those things before you marry someone because it's so important to learn from these moments and go, whoa, I'll never do that again. Like, I'll make sure the next guy, like, I know his thoughts on everything and, like, ins and outs. It's so important for our listeners to know that, like, if you are jumping on a wedding right now, jumping on a marriage right now, the values need to align. That's the thing. They have to. So in this case, I agree with Manny. I think, you know your answer.

[Manny Mua]

I think, you know, it's hard to

[Laura Lee]

pull the trigger, but so hard it is.

[Manny Mua]

But you can find such an amazing person that will see eye to eye with you. On things that you find very important. Because at the end of the day, people find importance in different things. And, like, that is. If that's something so important to you, then that's something that should be really important to your partner. And you see the same thing on, like, aligning wise, like, that's your partner, that's your person. That shouldn't be. You shouldn't have a vastly different opinion about huge things when you're married to someone.

[Laura Lee]

You know, I was listening to a Jay Shetty podcast, and he was just going through a bunch of different things in life. And there's a lot of people out there that, you know that come to him for advice. And one of the main things is they're getting a little older and they want a marriage. Like, they want to be married. They're like, what do I do? I can't find a partner and I'm getting older. That's like, one of the main things he deals with. And he was saying a huge thing on values, on how, like, you shouldn't be just looking for a person to marry. You should be, like, out there, like, focusing on what your values are and then finding the person who aligns with that.

[Manny Mua]

Yeah. That mirrors those.

[Laura Lee]

Yeah. So it's like that your focus should go much deeper than just, like, being with someone.

[Manny Mua]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

Getting that marriage. It's not about that. It's not about that. Like, the main thing is that who

[Manny Mua]

they are as, like, people.

[CoverGirl Announcer]

Exactly.

[Laura Lee]

And, like, who you are and what you want, don't just say yes.

[Manny Mua]

Yes.

[Laura Lee]

To say yes. Because it's, like, societal check mark in, you know, I got married. I did it. I'm successful in that, in my life. You know, that doesn't mean that.

[Manny Mua]

Couldn't agree more.

[Laura Lee]

So is that it?

[Manny Mua]

That is it. And that is it for our advice episode. Let us know what you guys think of this style. Do you guys like sending voice notes in? Do you guys like to hear each other? Like, I genuinely enjoy being able to do it in this way where it's like. Like getting to actually hear your guys's voices and hear from you and try to give advice directly to you as people. I just think that's really. It's really great for me. It feels. It feels fulfilling for me to try to help where we can. Obviously, again, we're not professionals. Take our advice with a grain of salt, like, do what you gotta do. But it's just like, from what we've experienced in our lives, we can give you advice based off of that.

[Laura Lee]

Yep, exactly. So we love you guys so much and we'll see you in the next one.

[Manny Mua]

Bye guys.

[Laura Lee]

Bye guys.

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