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Becoming McKenzi Brooke: Growing Up Online, Finding Her Voice & Turning Pressure Into Purpose
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I was getting picked on for things that I can't change about myself. Yeah, it's not about what I'm wearing or how I look. I got picked on for things that I can't change.
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And.
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And at that point, it's just like, I could care less. And at the end of the day, it's like, it's my life. I'm living it. You're just a speck on this world. Like, can't take life for granted. You gotta live it to the fullest. At one point in time, going through those health challenges, my parents wanted to do what was best for me. And I did feel like a girl in a bubble. I couldn't go and do much. I stayed home. At one point in time, I was on hospital, homebound school. So I didn't go to school. I didn't see friends. Pretty much just saw my doctors, my mom. A common thing that, like, fans or, like, when I get noticed in public, people will be like, oh, my God, are you famous? And I always just respond with them, just like a normal girl. Like, that's just how I think of myself is like, I just think I'm like an ordinary girl. Like, I have weird quirks about myself and I just, like, honestly just continuously chase my dreams.
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What's good, everybody? It's your guy, JoJo Simmons. And welcome back to the For Good podcast, where we focus on the good, never the bad. And we're measured by what we do, not what we have. Before we jump into it, I wanna shout out the Instagram community. We have reached 15,000 followers on Instagram. Keep rocking with us. Thank you for rocking with us. And if you haven't rocked with us yet, make sure you hit that follow button on Instagram for good podcast. Let's go. Today's guest is someone who knows what it's like to grow up with the world watching. Mackenzie Brooke is a dancer, actor and creator who built a massive following online by sharing her talent, her personality, and and her story in a way that's real and relatable. But behind the numbers and the viral videos, Mackenzie's journey is about something deeper. She's been performing since she was a kid growing up in the spotlight while learning who she really is outside of it something I can definitely relate to. She's faced challenges, stayed grounded in her purpose, and found ways to use her platform to inspire and uplift others. From her early days dancing to stepping into acting, music, and storytelling, Mackenzie continues to evolve, not just as a creator, but as a young woman learning to lead with authenticity and heart. This conversation is about growth, balance, and what it means to stay true to yourself when everyone's watching. MacKenzie, welcome to the For Good podcast. Thank you for coming.
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Thank you for having me. Oh, my God. Can you introduce me every single time I go anywhere?
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Of course. It's like a wwf, right? Like, you have, like, an intro before you come out. And I just read off everything you've done in your life.
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No, it sounded so good. I was like, whoa.
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Well, I mean, all that means is you're hearing what you've been doing, and sometimes we don't take the moment to stop and say, oh, what of all I've done? And then somebody like me comes along that's done the research, and the team done the research and said, okay, we're gonna put all of that on this cue card so you can hear it. Cause that's what the forgood podcast is about. It's about uplifting people and uplifting the guests that we have here. And I think it's safe to say that you may be the youngest guest I've had on here so far, which is cool. I'm so happy to connect to Gen Z. I guess, at this point, you know, how you liking New York? You liking New York? What brings you to. To New York? What you got going on out here?
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Well, I love New York because I love Times Square. I love, like, walking out at, like, 3, 4 in the morning and just experience all the lights. But originally, why I came to New York is because I got brought out here with the United nations for wedo for women Empowerment. And I'm super excited to be here for that. Like, to be able to just connect with so many other, like, leaders, like, especially female leaders, and be able to talk to them and hear, like, everything they've gone through to get from point A to point B in their career. And just being able to hear and just, honestly, it's kind of, like, crazy, because I will. I'm the youngest, you know, with all the other panelists that's happening this week. And it's definitely crazy. Like, being 21 and being surrounded by all these amazing women in their field, for sure.
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Yeah, that's dope. I love it. I didn't Know, man, you special. You out here just do you out here doing things that other people just ain't doing. That's what's up, man. So what led you here, what made them invite you is because you're always out empowering women. What made you feel like they had to have you since you are the youngest? What do you feel like, why they wanted you there?
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Well, I do a lot of work with nonprofit organizations, especially like Supergirl Pro, which is a nonprofit for women. And then I work side by side with the Air Force and I go to lots of different, like, high schools and colleges, kind of just to talk about, you know, being able to uplift kids. That's like something like. Like not kids because I'm the same age as them, but to be able to uplift people who are younger than me.
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Young adults.
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Yes, young adults is the great word for it. And people my age, be able to just talk to them and, like, realize that you can accomplish so much even when you're really young. And I think just being able to put myself into different. I don't want to call them opportunities because I don't think of them as that because it's something that I really want to do. And no matter what, I just. I love those experiences because I get to learn a lot from them too and get to hear, you know, what someone else has gone through. And like, so when it comes to that, I think it's just like all the work I've done when I was from, like, when I was young to now, helping out with homeless shelters, it's just, I think people have, like, noticed and it's not something I like, go out and put all over social media.
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It's just the work you're putting in. And they're starting to see it. They're seeing it and they. That's what's up, man.
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I don't like to, like, go in, like, for me, I like to give people, you know, space, especially, you know, working hand in hand with homeless. I don't like to put all of that on social media. I don't need to.
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You are. It's not. You don't always have to exploit it. You know, sometimes it is good to show people so that they're inspired to do it as well. But you don't have to do. You have to show it every time. There's been many a times I've helped needy and people in need and I haven't told anybody. Yeah, there's no reason to. Right. As long as that's between me God. And the person that helped, you know, and that's how I look at it. So I love that. All right, so let's get into it. First of all, once again, happy for you being on here. Can't wait to talk about all the things that you've been. Been up to, all the things that you've been through. And you know, I think there's a lot of relatable things that you and I could talk about, especially me growing up in the spotlight as well. So let's get into it. Mackenzie, your first question is you've been creating and performing since you were young and so much of your life has been in the public eye. When people ask you, what do you do now? How do you introduce yourself?
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I honestly, when people always, I think a common thing that, like fans or like when I get noticed in public, people will be like, oh my God, are you famous? And I always just respond with, I'm just like a normal girl. Like, that's just how I think of myself is like, I just think I'm like an ordinary girl. Like, I have weird quirks about myself and I just like, honestly just continuously chase my dreams.
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I love that. You know, I, I could relate to that because same here. Like when people are like, oh, you're famous, or if they find out I'm a well known person, like, oh, you're famous. I'm like, I don't really like the name, celebrity or the word. Yeah, famous. I'm like, yes, I'm known in some places, but I'm just like you. Like when people run into me in the supermarket, like, what are you doing here? I'm like, what are you doing here? Food shopping. Exactly what I'm doing here. I'm doing what the normal person does. So I love that you say like, you don't, you know what you, how you introduce yourself now is just like, I'm just MacKenzie, just this girl. Like, you may know me from things, but I'm just mackenzie. So I love that. I love that. So you started building a following on TikTok when you were still a teenager?
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Yes.
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What do you remember about that moment when everything started to blow up?
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Honestly, it was kind of just a very surreal moment for me, I think especially the first time I got like noticed in public. I'll never forget it. I don't know. To me, even like nowadays, like I've been doing social media for a few years now. It's still. Anytime somebody recognizes me at a place like a supermarket or an airport, it's just very Surreal moment. And it still excites me every single time.
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What was the first moment that really made you feel like you were starting to blow up, though, on TikTok?
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The first moment, that first aha moment.
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Like, wow, my life's different now. Cause I can tell you mine. I love to hear yours.
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I will say the first moment where I had like a. Oh, my God, like, my video blew up for something that I, like, enjoyed doing was I was in the supermarket. I was at Walmart. At three in the morning. I was at Walmart. I grew up going to Walmart. I love Walmart. Especially in Florida. That's where I'm from.
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Back in the day was 24 hours. I know they had the McDonald's, they had the video games you could play.
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I love Walmart. I'm such a big, like, Walmart fan. And my parents are, especially my mom. She was always taking us to dance classes. So after we finished dance class, like a prize for me, my brother would be to go to Walmart World and just, like, run around the store and just, like, be like, kids and siblings. And I remember creating, like, at the time, it. I didn't know it was going to be like, a viral video. I had, like, a couple, like, viral videos at the time, before that, like, doing comedy skits. But comedy wasn't exactly my. It wasn't my passion. I think I got onto social media because my mom was like, hey, mackenzie, you should do it. And she kind of gave me an ultimatum at the time when I started, which, you know, that's like a whole other story in itself. And I just. I think I just started with comedy skits. But I think when I started, like, bringing out, like, my personality and things, I was already doing, like, as like a teenage, like, kid at the time, which was dancing three in the morning at Walmart, I created a dance video with my brother. It was like my own dance. And because my brother and I were, like, already choreographing at the time. I was, I think, 15 and a half at the time when I started choreographing. And then I just made this dance trend and literally blew up overnight. And the next day I was already getting recognized when, like, I was going to, like, dance studios and, like, dance conventions. And I was like, this is weird. Like, this is different. Like, different in, like, a good way. Because, like, growing up, like, when you're always, like, at different conventions and competitions, like, people always hype you up for, like, the way you dance, but, like, it wasn't necessarily a thing for People to be like, oh, I know you because of, like, your online presence or anything like that. So it was definitely, like, very interesting moment and an interesting transition, but, like, interested in a good way, like, not a bad way.
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Yeah, I love that. I love, like, it turned into something that was natural for you, something authentic, and people gravitated towards it. And then all of a sudden, the same places you were walking in were places where people were recognizing you. That's kind of like the same story I had. I remember my young age, the mall was the place to go for kids. And I remember I used to always go to the mall before I was on tv and, you know, regular kid. And then all of a sudden, I'm going to the mall, and now everybody wants pictures with me and everybody wants an autograph. And that was the moment I was like, wait, oh, I'm somebody so I can relate to. Like, one day you're this normal kid, and the next day, like, you're just everywhere. Right? Everybody knows who you are. So you've literally grew up online with millions of people watching as we. As we're discussing and watching your life unfold. How has that shaped the way you see yourself in your work? You know, because like you said before, normal mackenzie, but, like, I'm sure you get on. You get some attention. You get, like, how does. How did you now being. Having this attention shape yourself and your work?
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So I think, for me, at least, growing up already in the industry, I think a lot of kids, once they go into social media, they have, like, they find the perspective. As in, like, you can't get away with everything or anything anymore. But I will say I was kind of always, like, not to say I was always a good kid growing up, but I was always very, like, my mom was like, you never know. Like, unfortunately, there are bad people in the world and people who have bad intentions. So my mom just kind of. My mom and my dad always kept me on, like, the good side of things and always looked out for me and made sure I didn't get in trouble. Same thing with my brother. So I think it's just more so once I got an online presence that I had the thought process of, like, if I do this, you never know who's watching, and anyone at any point in time will, like, use that and, like, try to turn it into, like, a bad thing. So I think that's, like, a thing that a lot of kids end up having that mindset and realizing they just have to be a lot more aware of their surroundings. But I'M very lucky that I did grow up with super, like, overprotective parents, to say the least. But I think overprotective in a good way. I love how productive they have been of me.
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I love that you. And shout out to your mom. So I love that you, at a young age, had that mindset. I didn't. And I was raised right. Right. But my mind wasn't. Everybody's watching. Let me watch what I do. Let me. It was just like I just. I was fighting between being normal and being famous. But I love how you understood your responsibility, you understood your opportunity. And I think that's powerful that you just said that. I think every kid that's coming up on some newfound fame or coming up on some newfound money or anything should pay attention to what you just said. You're never too young to understand that what's right from wrong.
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Yeah.
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And you're never too young to understand that you have an opportunity that you could essentially lose if you. If you're not aware.
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Yeah.
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And your. Your sense of awareness at a young age is amazing. Like, you know, shout out to you for. For. You know, because you can have a great upbringing and still go against the grain.
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Yeah.
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So the fact that you didn't go against the grain shows that you were brought up not only the right way, but you were brought up. And you. You listened, you understood that it was. It was the truth being told. You know, so many kids. My daughter doesn't think dad knows it all yet. Right now she's nine years old. But I'm gonna. I'm gonna show her this interview and say, hey, every. Because she says, me and my wife are. My wife and I are too protective. Overly protective.
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I did. Okay. I did have that mindset when it came to certain topics in my life where I was like, okay, mom and dad, just. Just a little space here. Just a little space. But I. I know I would say my brother and I are different. I'm the type of person that if you tell me something's not good, I don't need to learn from the experience at all.
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But your brother does.
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My brother here sounds like my kids.
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Sounds like my little Joey. And my Mia. My Mia will be like, okay, if my. I may not always agree, but if my parents say, this is what it is, what it is, Joey's like, head first. I don't care. You know? So I get it. I get the brother sister relationship and how that. How that the second child can be crazy, huh? Mom, I already know how that one is. I know, I know exactly how that one goes.
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But we love him so much, sometimes it takes him a little bit extra longer to learn, you know? But I'm always here. Yeah, I think. Honestly, I think it's a boy thing at that point.
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As boys, you know, from. From what I see with my kids, my daughter's a little more scared to do certain things. My son is not scared. And I mean, not mean as in, like, get on a roller coaster scared. But, like, if my. My dad says this, I'm so afraid. Like, the other day, true story. We were in a store shopping, and she thought that I had left her smoothie cup garbage. Like, gone somewhere and didn't put it in the garbage. And we got in the car, and she was like, dad, we were littering. Oh, my God, we're gonna be in so much trouble. I'm like, no, I brought it to the garbage can in the front. But that's the sense of. She's so afraid of getting in trouble or doing the wrong thing. My son wouldn't even care if we left it there.
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My brother definitely has the mindset. Well, actually, I kind of think we both do, where it's like, do it and kind of ask for forgiveness later. We kind of both have that mindset. It's just in different types. Yeah.
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Yeah. So. So you and I both know, speaking about our relatability, you and I both know what it's like to grow up in the spotlight, and it could be a lot to balance. How did you learn to separate who you are from what people see on social media? Because some people will see you and think, that's Mackenzie Brook all the time. Like, when people see me, oh, he's always funny and fun, and he has all this energy. Some days I'm tired. Some days I'm in who I am. So how do you separate that?
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I think for me, especially when I first started, it was definitely a learning process, for sure. Especially, like, I was a teen. I've been in and out, not in and out of relationships. I've had only two relationships, but it was definitely hard. Being on social media and then being with someone. I think I learned a lot, especially with a relationship that, like, I wanted to have this mindset of having, like, the perfect relationship when it was very, very far from perfect. And I wanted to do that originally because I was like, I don't want anyone to, like, think this way about me or think this way about who I'm with. And I just want them to, like, see smiles and sunshine and all that stu But I realized like towards the end of the relationship and especially like breaking up with somebody that it's okay to not be okay. And that's something my mom always had in my head. Like, it's okay to like cry. It's okay to feel this way. I'm always gonna be here for you. But it's definitely a lot when it's when you have such a big online presence and everyone's opinions are involved no matter what you do, whether you want them to be involved or not. And most of the time I will say I'm very like thankful to have a very supportive audience and they're always there for me when I'm upset. But I realized once I like ended relationships that I wanted to show my audience like it's okay to not be okay. And at the end of the day they also like felt the same way when it came to what they were going through. And I was just. Yes, exactly. And I was able to connect a lot more with them. And that's when I realized that like, this is how I'm gonna balance it. When I'm not feeling okay, my audience will know that I'm not okay. When I'm feeling great, my audience will know that I'm feeling great. Because it's the same thing if like someone's coming up to me in person. I remember this was right the like day before Halloween and I was in spirit, spirit Halloween. I remember I was, I was in my pajamas. I was in my pajamas, had no makeup on. I was actually. I deal with eczema and that's something I do share online too. And it was really, really bad that day. I like patches all over my face. I literally had like a full on like lotion patch just like on two parts of my face that like I was dealing with. And I remember a like four girls coming up to me at the time. And I didn't like at the time they didn't see what I was like looking like, but they heard my voice and they're like, I recognize voice and like I wanted to come up to you and everything like that. And just so much so as they were in their pajamas, I was in mine. And they're like, I. We had a full on conversation and they were honestly like the sweetest girls I've ever met. And I think that's like something that I just realized that I wanted to like, I wanted to be like, to show how someone who has a presence, whether it's like a social media influencer or an artist or actress, actor Celebrity, like we all go through the same things and during that point in time, like again having that full on conversation, we still took pictures, we still had fun and like, you know, I'm human just as much as everybody else.
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I love that. So it's safe to say that it's not much separation. You're so authentic with your, with your consumer that it's not like you have to separate the known person from the person that's in the house. Right. It's like you like being transparent with your people so they can relate to you and I love that so that it doesn't have, you don't have to put up any, any, any block or guard, you know what I mean? It's just, it's just you all the way. So I love that. Was there ever a moment when, when being known felt heavy though? Like I know you say, you know, you love the love, you love when people come coming up to you and then you're transparent. Like, but have you ever had to step back and like protect your piece like from, from, from, from being who you are? Like has it ever gotten too heavy for you being a known person?
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I would say especially when I first started social media, the only time where it was like a lot for me was honestly just like when you, I think not everyone like recognizes like, especially when someone just like either blows up really fast or like doesn't necessarily like expect something to happen. I think when it comes to anybody like walking into like a normal place or like an event or a party or I don't know, a store, like you don't necessarily think that like, oh, I'm going to get crowded or surrounded and stuff like that. And I think at first I was very like, oh my God, like this is a lot for me. Like I'm not ready for this now. I'm like totally fine with it. It doesn't really affect me. But I think that was like the only time where I was like, not that I needed to step back, but I just needed to like rethink and reprocess of like, yes, this could happen and you just have to be aware of your surroundings and that's pretty much it.
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Yeah. Yeah. I would say I was on the other end of it of like, things got really heavy for me. So I took a step back for a few years because I was so, you know, on TV since I was 15 and I dealt with a lot of like media things like, like you saying, being aware of what you do and people are watching every move. I wasn't too aware. And that's where it got heavy for me when the, the comments and the people talking and the false narratives and all that. So that's where it really, it really fell heavy for me as like as a kid growing up becoming somebody was like dealing with the extras of it. I never had a problem being a person that people look up to or somebody is inspired by or somebody may want to take. I love the love makes me feel good. Right. I think it makes anybody feel good. But is the flip side of that where like the people are hating or the people don't love you as much as the people that love you? So I think those are the moments wherever got it really got heavy for me. Have you ever had to deal with any hate online? Hate?
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So I will say for me I dealt with hate way before starting social media. I like grew up getting bullied in school so I, I guess like I have a different perspective of like when there's any sort of hate online it does not affect me because like I had it done to my face. I had it done by like people I thought were my friends, whether it was like dance industry or like at school. And it was something I was just constantly dealing with all the time. So having it done like online by someone who's like not showing their face, you don't see like you don't know them, it's like.
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And they don't know you.
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That's true. It doesn't bother me, it doesn't affect me. And I've learned the process that it doesn't matter what other people think. If you're still loving what you do and you know who you are, like you know yourself, then who cares? And at the end of the day, yes, everyone's allowed their own opinions for sure, but I could just care less about yours. Like that's just like, that's just like how I've, I've learned to deal with when there's any hate. Which I am very blessed and lucky that I haven't really had that negative energy online before. At least by like fans and like supporters or people I follow. Yes, I've had it by like your friends, your so called friends who like like to hate on you. But at the end of the day, if you're my friend and you're being negative towards me, it's a simple thing as me removing you from my life and I have no problem doing that.
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I love that. You know, I learned that years into the game of like they don't even know me. Why am I even getting so riled up over somebody that doesn't know me. But I think it deal. It goes back to what you said. You know, I didn't deal with that before tv. I. You know, I wasn't. I wasn't going into school, and I wasn't, like, per se getting bullied. I was, like, the one of the cooler kids, and, like, everybody liked me. And, like, you know, I was like a class clown, and, like, I made everybody laugh. Like, whatever I bought to the TV screen was who I was, and people liked me for it. And then I get, you know, I put it on tv, and now people are nitpicking at every little thing. Well, he looks like this, and he does this, and he. And. And I couldn't deal with it. So it's. It's so cool to know that, like, you took real life stuff and was like, well, if this can happen in my real life, that Internet stuff is fake.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? Because I don't even know those people, and I deal with real people that have tried to hate on me.
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No. Yeah. And especially, like, having that done to you, like, at your, you know, your middle schools and your elementary schools, and then, like, having it also done, like, when you would go to, like, dance class and stuff. Like, I was getting picked on for things that I can't change about myself.
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Yeah.
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It's not about what I'm wearing or how I look. I got things, like, picked on for things I can't change. And at that point, it's just like, yeah, I could care less. And at the end of the day, it's like, it's my life. I'm living it. You're just a speck on this world.
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Like, you are you who you are. And if you're happy being who you are, who you are, it shouldn't matter to anybody else.
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Exactly. Like, I'm gonna continue living my dreams. There's always, like, that saying where it's like, someone could either be in your life for, like, a chapter, they could be in your life for the whole entire book. It was just a chapter. Who cares?
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That was deep. I like that. You have to. You have to clip that one up. You know? That's a clip right there. That's a viral clip. Mackenzie. There you go. She's out here taking them viral clips from me. There you go. I like that.
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It's just like, you. You could be there for one season, or you could be there for, like, the whole 365 days of the year.
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I've always heard they're either in your life for a season or for a reason. You know what I mean? And that's how you got to kind of look at it. I want to talk about expectations. How do you handle people's expectations of you versus how you actually are now, like, as an adult and as an artist?
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Well, I will say, I think especially the past, like, two years of being online, exactly who I am online is exactly who I am in person. Like, I'm very, like, blunt, direct. I'm. I'm from the east Coast. Like, that's all I know how to be. We're very, very straight up.
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We're all very straight up out here. Like, really straight up.
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Yes. So especially, like, my mom's from New York, so she. She's a whole other level, for sure.
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But I could tell she's from New York. Then I felt the New York vibe. Mm.
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So I think that's just, like. I don't necessarily have, like, a lot of people who expect things, but obviously, when it comes to working with, like, brands and doing partnerships, I'm very lucky to have my mom as my manager.
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Okay.
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Yes. She doesn't exactly like that word.
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Momager. Don't like that word.
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She likes to like. It's different.
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She's a. I like that. And then she's a manager. Here we go.
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B
Separate it. Which is really nice, like, having her, like, having that separation. Like, she's able to play both roles and still do a great job either way. But for me, if there's any sort of, like, expectations from, like, a brand that's expecting this. She handles all the business stuff, and she's a very straight, honest type of person. And. But I think I can get behind, like, whatever I'm getting hired for or whoever I'm meeting. I always say go above and beyond whatever it is. So I don't think anyone, when it comes to meeting me or working with me, ever has a bad experience. In my opinion.
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A
I don't have one, so.
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B
Oh, I'm glad. But I don't think anyone ever will have, like, a bad appearance, a bad opinion or experience because, like, I've just, like, you're real. Yeah, I'm very real. I'm very honest. I'm gonna tell you how I feel. If I don't, like. If there's. If you want me to do this and I don't like that, or I think something could else be turned to, and it could be different, I'm gonna tell you, like, well, you want this. I don't Think it's gonna go well, but I think if we do this, it's gonna go well. So at the end of the day, it's however you decide as a brand. Like, do you want to go with what I say, or do you want to go with what you say? But, like, here are the outcomes, and that's the same way my mom is, like, when it comes to them, her speaking with, like, different, you know, people. So I think at the end of the day, I don't have, like, expectations. Yeah. And I've just, like, lived the life and where my mom always. Or my mom has taught me. She's taught me a lot of things. I always keep saying my mom has taught me because it's real true, the truth. But when it comes to me working with other people or meeting people or doing different opportunities, I. I just always have the expectations. Hope for the best, expect the worst, right?
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A
Yeah. So those are your expectations of yourself is hope for the best, expect the worst? Yeah, that's. That's how I kind of live, too, so. Because when you live like that, you control your emotions towards whatever happens. If it doesn't work out in your favor, you can say, well, you know, I thought it'd go this way. But although it didn't, I'm totally in.
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B
Control of it, and I'm totally okay with it. Like, I'm just a very much, like, go with the flow, whatever happens, happens type. Of person. I don't like to have, like, set myself up for, like, expectations, especially when they can't exactly get met, if that makes sense. I don't want to set myself up for failure. Just. I wouldn't.
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A
Just do your best, forget the rest.
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B
Exactly. I like that. Do your best, forget the rest. I like that.
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A
So, you know, you mainly have been known for dance and performance, but you've also explored acting, music, and storytelling. What inspires you creatively right now? Like, right now, what's inspiring you creatively?
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B
Do you want my honest?
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A
I want you. I always want the honest.
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B
Okay, well, Mackenzie, you always live honest. I was like, honest opinion.
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A
You want your honest opinion.
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B
So I would say when it comes to my music, I'd love to thank all my exes for being terrible to me.
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A
Usually it is that that brings that creativity out of you in music.
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B
Okay, no, but in reality, like, if you look at a Taylor Swift, if you look at, like, even, like, your younger version, like a Tate McCrae or, like, a Gracie Abrams, like, they're very honest. What happens with their relationships, you do put into what you Write. And I think that comes. It. It happens with me with friendships. It happens with me with, like, actual, like, above and beyond relationships. My first song or not my first song? Well, my first song I wrote is about a friend who I'm still friends with. Still friends with to this day. And then one of my songs I wrote that was called Fu is about an ex friend. So, like, not all songs are about, like, my, you know, ex boyfriends, but they're about people.
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A
But, yeah, about experiences.
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B
About experiences.
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A
They're about experiences, yes.
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B
But, you know, it does help when you're able to write about, like, particular people in your life. Because I just feel like at the end of the day, when it comes to that, that everyone goes and experiences that stuff. Maybe it's not with the same exact person, but, like, everyone goes through heartbreak. And I just love to use that as, like, songwriting, as my therapy and, you know, put that into my music. I just recently performed at a festival called Supergirl Pro, and it's all about, like, uplifting women. And I just. I love it so much. It's originally started as, like, a surf competition, and I think they started with, like, 100 people. Now they have, like, thousands and thousands of girls that go and compete, and it's absolutely amazing. But I recently performed, like, all my originals there, and these two girls came up to me after, like, the show when I was going to watch Plain White Tees perform, because I performed right before them. And so they came up to me at the. At the show, and I was like, in the pit, and they're like, by the way, like, I love your song Love Amnesia, because I say, like, right before, like, I go into the song, like, my therapist told me that forgiving is better, but I think forgetting is way better for you. That's why you call it. That's why I call it Love Amnesia. And the song is basically about, like, taking an ex and, like, kind of, like, deleting them out of your life. Like, I have zero exes. Cause I don't count mistakes. It's one of the lines I have in the song. And she came up to me basically saying, like, I've been through the same thing, and I know exactly how you feel. And listening to your music really has helped me go through breakups. So I like to go and talk about stuff like that, like, especially, like, online or whenever I get the chance to, because, you know, I think, again, it's relatable. It's relatable. And, you know, everyone has their moments where they want to, like, cry themselves to sleep and they don't know what they're doing like with their life. And they're like, where did I go wrong? How did I get here? But all my music is very like talks about that stuff, but it talks about in a very like, uplifting, like pop way to where it's like you don't need them anymore. You're better on your own.
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A
I like that. I love. So safe to say that you are, have been inspired creatively by your experiences in life. Right. You take all your past experiences, your current experiences and, and you keep creating. I like that. So I know that you, you shared before that you face some serious health challenges early on. How did that experience change the, the way you approach life and creative creativity today?
- [35:32]
B
For me, I was experiencing health challenges when I was really, really young, before I even said a word that came out of my mouth.
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A
But knowing that, how did that mold you into to how you look at life and how you create?
- [35:48]
B
You can't take life for granted. You got to live it to the fullest. At one point in time, going through those health challenges, I was, you know, my parents wanted to do what was best for me and I did feel like, you know, a girl in a bubble. I couldn't go and do much. I stayed home. At one point in time, I was on hospital, homebound, school. So I didn't go to school. I didn't see friends, pretty much just saw my doctors, my mom. One point in time I couldn't see my dad and my brother. It was pretty much just my doctors, my mom. Once I was able to go back home, then I was able to see like my dad and my brother. But I think during that time especially I was just always in a bubble. I didn't get to go and experience life. But I will say I wouldn't change anything about it. If I had to live it again, I would because I think I learned so much about myself. One, I learned that I loved singing and did I focus it on it at the time? No, but I learned that. But I did. And at one, you know, years later I started writing and everything. But during that time it just taught me, especially when I was given the chance, like, hey, do you want to go to your like last few years of school or do you want to like, not to say stay safe or like, but stay safe and continue doing like hospital, homebound, school at home. As soon as I got the chance, I didn't care whether like again, I didn't care if I was going to get bullied or Not I just wanted to go and realize that, like, at the end of the day, like, I just want to be able to like, experience life as like a normal girl. And I think that's why I continuously just tell people, like, I'm just your quote unquote normal girl. Because that's what I wanted to experience, experience when I was younger, even though I knew that I wasn't like every other teenage girl and I didn't go through the same things they were going through, but it just taught me, like, honestly, never give up. At one point in time, my doctors had other opinions that for sure completely twisted my mindset. And I was told I was never gonna walk again, I was never gonna dance again. I was pretty much going to be stuck in a chair the rest of my life. And I think that just made me realize I have to work and fight a lot harder than maybe your average person. But if this is something that I want to do, then you just have to, like, go for it. And that's also what taught me to not care about what other people think. Because at the end of the day.
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A
You'Re mentally strong because of that.
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B
Yeah. At one point in time talking about it, I was not at all okay for sure. And like that I would say, because it's still something I deal with nowadays. I have to be really careful about, I guess, who I interact with. If I know somebody's sick, I do realize there has to be a distance between like me and the person. And I can't be all lovey dovey like I usually am. And I still take those precautions that I would be taking when I was younger. Not as I still love my little wrist takey like nowadays because I think I've just gotten older and I feel like my immune system's a lot stronger than it was before. But I don't know, I just. I realized that, you know, it's okay to like, have those like up and down moments and just be careful at the end of the day, like, just be careful. And that's all I can say. I have like again, a mom and my dad who look out for me and if there's any type of scare, they're like right, right there to like fix everything.
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A
I love how authentic you are and how you share it and if you're comfortable sharing the name or what you were going through for anybody that may be going through that. Do you. Would you like to tell us what it actually was?
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B
It was definitely like a couple different things that unfortunately hit me at the same time. But I was diagnosed with influenza A when I was, like, 2 years old. And if it's something that maybe not everyone knows about it, but it's something that stays dormant in your body, my family didn't know about it until I got older, and I experienced it for. I think the second time is when my doctors told me that it stayed dormant in my body, and it doesn't go away, so. Hence why anytime I get sick, which, knock on wood, hasn't been in a long time.
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A
Let's not. Let's not.
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B
But it is something that does stay dormant inside your body, and you do have a risk anytime you get sick or get the flu that it could just all happen all over again.
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A
So was Covid a scary time for you?
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B
I think my parents, we kind of just, like, kept inside. I pretty much was just going to the studio, to my house, to the studio, to the house. And I will say I was very thankful that when, like, during that time, yes, I got Covid, but I caught it three times. Oh, my Lord. That is insane.
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A
Insane. Every strand they had.
- [41:19]
B
That's crazy. I got it once, and honestly, I was fine. My parents, my family, they were not okay.
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A
I wasn't at the first one. I wasn't. And then they got weaker and weaker.
- [41:29]
B
No, I thought I was fine. I was like, guys, I am ready to ride roller coasters. Take me to Disney. My family, I don't. I don't. I think maybe the way I grew up and maybe because of, like, things I've had before in my past, my.
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A
System is really strong.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That I was fighting for a long time.
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B
It has been. It still continues to do it nowadays. But no.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I was just like. I think we just, like, continuously are, like, staying safe. Like, yes, I go out. Yes, I have fun. Yes, I work continuously. But definitely when there's that period of, like, oh, I'm overworking myself, I take a break, and I just like, okay, guys, I'm gonna have a lazy day. This is my 24 hours of my lazy day. I'm gonna sleep, and I'm gonna go to the movie theater.
- [42:18]
A
I like that. And I love to hear about the lazy days because, you know, from my understanding, you share everything with your fans, but is there anything that you keep to yourself that you don't share? And I say you have to say that. But, like, do you keep anything to yourself? Do you do or do you give it all to the people?
- [42:35]
B
I think something now I keep to myself is I didn't originally. And this, like, goes back to relationships. I used to go and just like throw everything and be like, this is this like my first relationship I kept everything, smiles and happiness. My second relationship, it was like everything like. And now I've like found a balance. I'm single, not in a relationship, but I now have that balance that if I decide to explore new relationship, I'm not going like very strict rules of like, if I'm dating somebody, I'll let the audience know. I'm not going to ever lie and say I'm single when I'm not single. Not doing that. But I'm not going to like post the person and things like that. I will keep that private at, you know, at least a long time in the beginning of the relationship because not because of my audience or things like that. My audience wanted to yourself. I want it to myself. And one, I feel like sometimes you're still learning about the person and you.
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A
Don'T always know, put them out there like that.
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B
You don't always know the person's intention.
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A
That's a fact. That is a fact.
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B
And I've learned that lesson too, that some people are really good at, you know, hiding, hiding those like lies and secrets about them. And you unfortunately don't know until you've given what they want and then you find out like who their true self is. So I'm not necessarily doing it because like I have like, I don't want to share, share with my audience, but I don't want that person at the end of the day, whoever that would be. I don't want them taking advantage of me or my audience.
- [44:17]
A
Smart, smart. I feel like you'd have a really good answer to this next question. Talking to younger, younger generation, younger than me, younger than you. What advice would you give to a young person who wants to build a platform but struggles with comparison or pressure?
- [44:33]
B
One thing my mom has always taught me, or two things actually I've learned my lesson always be you don't care what other people think because at the end of the day it's like, it's your life. It's what I've said in the beginning, it's your life, it's not their life, you know, but the next one that I, I love so much and I feel like anytime I've said it to someone, they also like, agree with it. But haterade is powerade. If somebody does decide to hate on you, take it and put it into what you love. Not to say prove them wrong. But if someone says no, you can't do that. When I first started social Media, the amount of times, especially like in the dance industry that I got hated on for doing it or like just trying, like someone trying to talk me out of, like, continuing to do social media. So glad I'd never listened to them for sure. But you take that hate in whatever type of career path you're doing, whether it's, you know, being a doctor. There's so many people that tell you can't, like, you think you're smart enough to do this. It's like, yes, I am. Let me, let me show you. Let me show you and prove you wrong. And I think that's something that I continue to do, like nowadays. And I will always use that advice, like, even by the time I'm like 70 years old and I just will use it in, like, all of life.
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A
That it has fuel.
- [46:03]
B
Yes, just continue, do what you love. And if someone has a problem with it, show them. Like, show them somebody.
- [46:12]
A
The problem with it is their problem is there. They're not going to take care of you. They're not going to pay your bills, they're not going to chase their dream, your dreams for you, you got to chase them yourself. So ultimately she's telling you, go for it. Young, young people, go for it. Stop thinking, go for it. Just go for it. It's not. There's nothing on the other end but success. But if you don't go for it, nothing's going to happen. You're going to still be in the same place. You are still going to be stuck with the same people that told you you couldn't do it. So it's better to just go do it and watch.
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B
Let them watch or go home.
- [46:39]
A
Go big or go home.
- [46:40]
B
Yeah. My mom always says, like, there's a difference between giving it your all and giving 100% and then giving it like 125%. Like, go above and beyond. If it's something you really want to do with your life, why are you just going to give it like a little bit?
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A
You're all like, yeah, my wife and I tell my daughter as well, like, you can go, you can, you can go, but let's really go. Let's really do it. Like, let's really do it to the biggest we can ever do it. If you can go any harder, go that hard.
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B
Yeah. I think when you have your mindset on something, anything, you can accomplish anything. That's just like, that's it. Like, period, end of story. You can accomplish anything as long as your mind's on it. But if your mind's on it. You also have to have the same work ethic as it. You have to work hard because you can't just keep thinking this stuff. Like you have to do what your mouth is saying.
- [47:35]
A
That's a fact. So I hear all throughout the interview, you bring up your mother.
- [47:40]
B
Yeah, I do.
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A
I also heard you bring up your dad a few times. And your brother that made the viral video with you. His name Rafe.
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B
Reef.
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A
Reef. So from what I understand, they've been a big part of your journey from the start. Especially your brother Reef.
- [47:54]
B
Yes, he has been.
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A
How has that support system kept you grounded? I know you've spoken about this throughout the whole interview, but like having Reef and your mom and your dad, how does that kept you grounded?
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B
Well, one, I'm a very family oriented girl.
- [48:08]
A
Yes.
- [48:09]
B
I. I love my family. I love my family. I tell my family everything. They're my best friends. Like that. That's. That's it. They are my best friends. They're the people I come to when I like. Not only when I like, accomplish something that I really wanted to, but they're also the people that if something goes wrong, I know they're gonna be there for me and they're gonna be straight and honest to me. If I did something wrong, they're gonna be like, yeah, this is on you. This was your fault. And if it's someone else's, they're gonna be like, I'm here for you. And they're always gonna comfort me. But definitely when you say when it comes to being grounded, if I at all ever got a big head, my mom and my dad would slap me on the backside of my head.
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A
They're gonna pop the balloon.
- [48:54]
B
Oh, yeah. Yes. My mom very much says, I brought you into this world and I can take you right now.
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A
That's the old classic line. We've all heard it.
- [49:03]
B
And I just. I think there's that. And then my mom and my dad also always said to me that, you know, as fast as you went up, you can come crashing down if you don't remember those people who have helped you along the way. Because nobody becomes anything. Whether it's like a CEO of a company, if you don't have your teammates and employees helping you accomplish what your goals are, that's a fact. And my mom just has always had that mindset in my head. And she's. Her and my dad have done a great job. I'm like, in my opinion, they have done a great job raising.
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A
I mean, if she's telling you quotes like that, she Did a great job. That she might have got a little black in her after that. I mean, I've heard, you know, a lot of black households have heard that line growing up. So she definitely knows what to say and do the right things.
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B
Her and my dad have definitely done a great job. Like, when it's come to raising my brother and I. And I don't know, I think I just. I'm very close with my brother that we tell again. We tell each other everything. We're always there for each other. I know that sometimes when my brother is in a. Like in certain positions, maybe he won't tell me at first, but at the end of the day, if he needs help, if he needs advice, he. At the. He comes into. He's right across from my room. He's right across the hallway. He does not mind walking to my room. Borrows my clothes all the time.
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A
What's the age difference?
- [50:37]
B
We're two years. Two years. Almost two years. Yes, he is.
- [50:42]
A
Yeah. I'm a younger brother, too. Of. I have a lot of siblings, so I have younger brothers and I have younger sisters, but I have two older sisters. Sisters.
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B
So do you like to have the mentality where you think you're older, though? Because he has that mentality.
- [50:53]
A
I mean, you'd probably think I was the older brother if you didn't. Like, if people didn't know.
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B
My family loves to tell everyone he's the older brother.
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A
I don't have to tell anybody that. I. I move like the older brother. You know what I mean?
- [51:04]
B
You would get along with me.
- [51:05]
A
I got a me, Reef man. I gotta bring him on the podcast. He sounds like a me.
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B
Yeah, he said that all the time. Like, he'll be like. When somebody's like, oh, so you're the older something. Not to me, like, to him. Because he's also waiting.
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A
He'll say, yeah.
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B
He'll be like, yeah. And I'm like, no, you're not. I love like, hello.
- [51:22]
A
Shout out to Reef, man. Shout out you brother.
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B
No, he's definitely.
- [51:27]
A
He's like, he's the man. Just put it at that. He's the guy right there. That's him.
- [51:31]
B
He's him.
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A
Yeah. Reef is him.
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B
He's the man. He's still like, again, he's my younger brother. He's always going to be like a kid to me, but I get it. He's grown up.
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A
He's listening. If he's 19, 20 now.
- [51:44]
B
Yeah. No, he's.
- [51:45]
A
He's a big boy.
- [51:47]
B
That's what he tells me. He's like, mackenzie, I'm a man.
- [51:49]
A
I wouldn't say man. Yeah, young man.
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B
I know, I know.
- [51:52]
A
He's a young man. Reef, I'm for your mama. You a young man, not a man yet. You got a lot to go through in life, trust me.
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B
I agree.
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A
I'm still going through things. And I'm 36, brother, so, you know, like, you got a lot to go through, but you are a young man. We'll say that. He is.
- [52:05]
B
I do laugh at him, though, when he says that to me.
- [52:07]
A
He's like, does he even have a mustache yet?
- [52:08]
B
No. He does.
- [52:09]
A
Okay.
- [52:09]
B
He does. Oh, my God. The other day, he was trimming his, like, okay, so, like, he'll he okay when he's lazy, he'll grow this out. But he doesn't like it, so he, like, says he looks homeless. So then he, like, shaves that off. And then he has, like, his mustache and, like, goatee. And he taught a class the other day at Millennium Dance Complex, which is, like, a pretty big studio in, like, California. So happy for him. Like, congratulations to him. And I went and took his class. But before, like, when we were on the way, like, he's getting ready in his bathroom. I walk in and he is trimming his beard. And like, oh, my God, he's not shaving. He's trimming it, like, has trimmers. And I'm like, this is insane to me. Like, oh, my God.
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A
It's at that point.
- [52:53]
B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
It gets crazier.
- [52:55]
B
No. And one of, like, our friends who we grew up, who also grew up with, and she's like. She's also, like an older sister. She's like, a year older than me. And she's experienced, like, my brother since he's, I think, like, five years old. And so I, like. I walk in, I'm like, oh, my God. He's, like, growing up. And she goes, yeah, I know. Like, it's. Look, it's like. She goes. I like, it's. It's insane. Like, he's taller than both of us. He's 5 10. I'm only 5 1. So I think that also has, like. He thinks he's the older one because of, like, his height. I'm like, oh, whatever.
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A
I love the closeness. Reminds me of my siblings and myself. We always confide into each other, always got each other's back, and always making sure, you know, we're all good. So I love. I can tell the excitement you got. Speaking about your brother.
- [53:43]
B
Yeah, he's my competitive little brother for sure.
- [53:47]
A
How do you think your younger self would feel, seeing where you are now after everything you've learned and worked through?
- [53:54]
B
I personally think my younger self would be honestly just proud of, like, being able to chase my dreams and going back, I think, just not to say, like, I want to go back into, like, the whole health topic, but I think seeing myself, like, from when I was in a hospital bed to just.
- [54:18]
A
Like, here, here on the For Good podcast.
- [54:22]
B
Yes. But just seeing myself, like, being able to, like, walk, talk, dance, sing, like, it doesn't matter about, like, anything I accomplished, but just being healthy in that way is something that my younger self would just, like, be so elated with that, like, she went through all of this so we could end up here. Yeah. And it, to me, my accomplishments doesn't matter. I personally think, like, someone as a person, like, I look past what anyone has accomplished. Like, that's not, like, that's not who you are as a person. You. Who you are is, like, your morals, your ethics in life, your integrity. And so I think that's what my younger self would be so proud of.
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A
I'm proud of you, younger. I'm proud of you, too. I know at your younger self, probably there were days where you probably didn't think you would make it this far. Right. And now you say you sing, you dance, you walk, you talk. You don't only sing, dance, walk and talk. You're doing it front of millions. Yeah, right. Like, the world loves you, God loves you. It's amazing to know that these are, you know, things that you may have not were able to do, and now you're doing it for a platform.
- [55:28]
B
Yeah, there was definitely those times where.
- [55:30]
A
You are a walking testament. You know that, right? You know, you're a walking testament. And that's kind of gonna go into. My next question is like, you know, from. From being a kid dancing on TikTok. Creator, artist, young woman with a platform. What do you want people to take away from your story? As we. As we get towards the end of this podcast, I would love to know what you want. Young people, old people, anybody watching us, what do you want them to take away from your story?
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B
Every time I talk to somebody and somebody asked me for advice or I just want people to take knowledge. Like, that's like, I know, like, I'm super young and I still have so much to learn, and, like, that's my opinion. I hope to learn more and more new things every single day about, like, other people and, like, what I can grow and learn from. And I think whenever I talk to somebody or when someone watches, like, this podcast, it's the same thing that same things I grew up with, like, and what has kept me going is the always be you. It's the haterade is Powerade. It's the keep on chasing your dreams and don't care about other people's opinions. Opinions, because at the end of the day, those things don't matter. Don't let anyone tell you, like, you can't do this or this is gonna happen to you, because at the end of the day, you make your own life decisions. Like, it's your mind, it's your body, it's not somebody else's. And I think that's what I always hope somebody takes when I, like, talk to them about. Anything I've gone through is, like, throughout my life, I think it's always been a people telling me I have to be this way or this is gonna happen to me. And I feel like I've just kind of proven myself and I continue on proving that, like, just because you have this title doesn't mean that you are gonna control what happens at the end of the day to my life. And that's just something I hope that people can, like, take from it.
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A
Yeah, I've sat down with you and you're way younger than me, and I'm taking away things from your story. So I'm sure the listener will take away a lot of inspirable, relatable things from your story. Finally, our show is called the For Good Podcast. Right. I love to know what those two words mean to you personally. For good. What does that mean to you?
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B
I think it just means, like, doing good, like, whatever you can in life. Like, to me, I always try to, like, I always want to make somebody's day, and there's so many different ways that you can help out around this world. And I do think, especially, like, what everyone is going through nowadays and not to be like, get into like, politics and government, but especially of those things and what's going on. I think this is like the time where everyone just needs to help out each other and to take each other's hands and just be like, we can do this together. Let me help you out. You help me out. And I think that's just something that. Especially with the title For Good, like, do something for the better. Do something for the good.
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A
Got it. You got it. I mean, that's how we look at it. But I think there's always. Everybody has their own point of views of what For Good means. And I Love how you said that. And as I said earlier, probably the youngest I've had on here. And you got your stuff together. You know, your mindset is perfect. You understand what for good means. You understand what it is to be a good person. You've been through so much. Your story is one of survival. Your story is one of perseverance, strength. So I want to shout you out, first of all, give you your flowers for not only being inspirable to younger kids and dancers and creators worldwide, but believing in yourself, having that strength and that faith in yourself to know that there was one day they told you you weren't gonna walk, dance, talk, sing, whatever, and you're here. You're flourishing, you're thriving, you're winning, you're succeeding at it. And not only are you doing that, you're a. You're an example for other kids. You're an example for other people that may not see it possible, but you've shown that is more than possible. To not only become somebody that is known, but to become somebody that was once sick and didn't know where you were going to go in life.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But yet you ended up here. So I want to say that congratulations on everything that you've gone through or congratulations on everything you've been through. You have a wonderful upbringing. Your mother, your father, your brother. I can tell. So I want to. First of all, I want to say thank you for coming on this forgot podcast and sharing all of that you shared with us, from the health stuff to how you deal with life and your fame, I would say. So I definitely want to close us out on that note and let you know that this was a great conversation. And I was locked in the whole time. You got me like. You got me sitting there like, okay, she's this little. She's dropping gems. This little girl. Dropping. Not little girl, but to me, little girl.
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B
And you could say I'm not dropping gems over here.
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A
Dropping gems. So I love it. And before we get out of here, I'd love for you to tell my listener anywhere they can find you or anything you're working on new that you want to promote.
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B
You guys can follow me on all social media platforms. Mackenziebrooke M C K E N Z I B R O O K e And you can stream my new music, so. Same Mackenzie, Brooke. N C K E N Z I B R O O K E. I'm coming out with a new song called Liar Liar.
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A
I'm about to listen to it. Liar Liar was one of my favorite movies. You might Be too young to know about Liar Liar with Jim Carrey. Your mom probably knows about that movie.
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B
I've heard of it, but I've never seen it.
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A
It's one of my favorite movies growing up. So now I'm gonna have to check out the song just off the name alone, you know. But is it out yet or. It's coming out.
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B
It's coming out.
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A
Do you have a date for that? Oh, she doesn't have a date, guys. So we'll wait.
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B
She don't have a date exactly yet, no.
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A
But that's the best thing is now we just gotta all follow her and just wait on it, you know? So everybody make sure you go over to her platform.
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B
I've been posting little snippets of it on social. I did see.
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A
So I'm excited for you. And once again, congratulations on all you've been doing, Mackenzie. Keep on winning, keep on inspiring, keep on shining your light. Everybody. This is the For Good podcast where we focus on the good, never the bad. And we're measured by what we do, not what we have. We are signing out. Till next time, it's your guy, Jojo Simmons, my homegirl, MacKenzie Brooks. Peace. We out.
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B
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A
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