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Sacha Stone
Hi, this is Free thinking through the fourth turning. My name is Sacha Stone. Ashley St. Clair went in with eyes and legs wide open. Stop infantilizing women who make poor choices and then blame everyone else but themselves. The Wall Street Journal has dropped a hit piece on Elon Musk. Their headlines suggest Elon Musk is farming out his seed and growing crops for a super intelligent generation to colonize Mars in the near future. That's the story they wish to tell, and it's the story Ashley St. Clair is grateful they will tell. After all, the only thing she seems to want out of this is to be not a secret. Podcast listeners. A headline the tactics Elon Musk uses to manage his legion of babies and their mothers. The story is behind the paywall and I'm not that invested to pay for this and other hysterical bleeding from Rupert Murdoch's high minded conservative outlet. I was a subscriber for many years, but lately I'm not finding much difference there. From everywhere else, it's an endless war on Trump. We get it, you don't like him. We get it, you don't like Elon either. Instead, I'll draw from this piece from The Independent. QUOTE St. Clair, 26, went public with her claims that she and Musk share a child in February. Now she has claimed that the billionaire offered her a one time payment of $15 million plus $100,000 a month until her child turns 21 in exchange for her silence. Well, that probably explains Amber Heard's move to Spain and her mystery baby delivered via surrogacy. As long as she never says Elon Musk fathered it, she can live out her life with money and privacy. Plus a baby she always wanted, she did not want. Elon Heard was scorched earth anyway by the time she moved to Spain. Maybe this was the cash infusion that got her there and allowed her to live out her days in comfort caring for her baby girl. Here's a picture of the two of them. Heard, like St. Clair, went into this with her eyes open. Unlike Sinclair and not needing a bounce of fame, Heard maybe took the money and ran. By contrast, Sinclair seems to very much want everyone to know who fathered her baby and why wouldn't she? In a time of influencer culture, what could be a better narrative than mean old Elon flew her somewhere exotic, filling her head with pretty little lies and then filling her womb with sperm, whereupon a baby was made. Where did that baby come from? It came from you, Ashley. That's what happens when you spread your legs for Daddy, take note. To pretend she had no idea this was where the whole thing would end up is absurd. She knew he wanted to father a child with her. She didn't know that no one would ever know about it. And what good is sleeping with, much less having a baby with the richest and arguably second most famous man in the world if nobody knows about it? Good for her. She came of age. In a culture of victimhood, everyone is a victim, especially grown women. Didn't you know? As yet another single mother with a mystery baby, she's a nobody. As one of Elon's baby mamas, however, she can now become a somebody, a superstar of her wildest dreams. Maybe that's right, maybe it isn't. But money is nothing compared to fame. Unless you're Amber heard St. Clair acts like she just gave birth to the bastard child of King Henry VIII and is fighting for him to be recognized as a royal and now has cast herself as the brave martyr, the poor peasant girl the king commanded to lay back and take it from the story. Quote she rejected the offer. I don't want my son to feel like he's a secret, St. Clair reportedly told Musk's fixer, Jared Birchall, who runs Musk's family office. And St. Clair claimed that Musk has used his wealth to silence some of the other women who have had his children, according to the report. End Quote St. Clair gained an insight into Musk's paranoid way of thinking when they dated in 2023. After meeting in the spring of that year, their romance began on Musk's social media platform, X. After he began to interact with her posts, she was invited by Musk to visit X's headquarters in San Francisco. From there, he took her on a separate trip to Rhode island on his private plane, where the SpaceX seemed CEO was visiting one of his sons at college, and then later on a getaway to Saint Barts for New Year's. During their time together, Musk frequently talked to St. Clair about having children. She claimed the first time they had sex, Musk joked that they should pick a name for their future child, the outlet reports. On the trip to St. Barts, she told Musk that she was ovulating. What are we waiting for? He reportedly replied, and their son was conceived, according to St. Clair. End Quote I'm less interested in the part of the story where Elon Musk wants to populate to colonize Mars with his version of a super intelligent offspring, or as the left will very likely dub it, a master race. The part of the story I am interested in is the idea that Ashley St. Clair, or any woman who spreads her legs for Elon or allows his sperm to be injected into her, is in any way a victim. Ashley St. Clair knew exactly what she was involving herself in, but she could not stop herself, because almost no young woman could. Many young women go through the ritual of pretending to fall in love with a rich old dude so they can get pregnant and be financially taken care of for the rest of their lives. Everybody knows that. Get that honey or else. No. Money is the new. Get that ice or else no dice. Ashley apparently thought she was Cinderella, that she'd get the fairy tale. Most women want that, too. They want the romance. They want the wealth. They want a good father. They want the faithful man. They want a happy ending. They also want to be empowered. They want a man who will listen to them and hang on every word. They want a man who will be attracted to only them for the rest of their lives. They want a country that remains attracted to old women, fat women, and women who are not traditionally pretty. They want it all because they have been told they deserve it all because they're worth it. Well, you can't have it all. If Ashley St. Clair wanted a husband and a father for her child, the last person she would so willingly sleep with is Elon Musk, who made no secret of telling her, yes, I would love to impregnate you, but no, I'm not exactly looking for a commitment. What did she expect? He would abandon everything, rush by her side, marry her, and they could, oh, I don't know, go live happily in a SpaceX tiny house? Fanatical activists are out there calling him a Nazi, firebombing Teslas and trying to destroy his businesses. And here's Ashley whining.
Ashley St. Clair
Wah.
Sacha Stone
Pay attention to me. That's not to say anyone should approve of plugging willing women in order to produce as many children as possible. But the FLDS does it, too, minus the sex with minor children part. That's amore. I speak from experience. I went to Italy to meet a man I fell in love with on the Internet. I spent a month there. I came back pregnant. He was furious. He did not want me to have the baby. Like every man who engages in casual sex except Elon Musk. Trust me, the used part is not, have a baby with me and I'll pay you 15 million to keep it under wraps. The used part is, let's have fun and if you get pregnant, you'll abort the baby, right? Would I have loved for a real relationship and a real marriage with a happy home and lots of kids. Yes, of course I wanted the fairy tale too. But the Whining by Ashley St. Clair and the pearl clutching by both the left and the right of what these women have chosen to do with their bodies is nauseating. They are not children. They are not handmaids. They are not victims. Ashley St. Clair all but begged him, impregnate me, Elon. And we're supposed to feel sorry for her now? The truth. She wants control of all of it. She wants the lavish lifestyle and to be known as the woman Elon Musk plucked off the Internet to father his super intelligent Mars space force. She was so pretty and so smart. He chose her. What else is she gonna be? How do you keep that a secret for 20 years? She didn't make that choice for her kid. She made it for herself. Own it, Ashley. And to conservatives glomming onto this, I will quote an email I just received from the Daily Caller's Editor at large, Jeffrey Ingersoll. Quote, it's for that outcry on the right to become so loud that Trump simply has to part ways with Musk. As far as motivations go, this much could barely be described as ulterior. Onlookers in public can see the real goal. Gas, grass or ass. Nobody rides for free. I supported my daughter on my own. I worked jobs that I could do either with her in a backpack, sports photography, sleeping on my chest, movie critic working from home, horoscope rider, or in a stroller nearby working as a janitor. Eventually I built my own business, which was successful enough that we would be fine. A woman owned business everyone on the left approved of until they found out I voted for Trump. But I don't regret that decision. Just as I don't regret flying off to Italy and getting pregnant. Raising my daughter has been the best thing I have ever done and there is no close second. But it was my decision. Just like it was my bad decision not to have babies I could have had. I wish I could blame feminism or the men who got me pregnant or. But I have only myself to blame and I live with that regret every day of my life. Do I feel sorry for the kids involved because they don't have a father around? And is that good role modeling for men? Sure, I feel bad for them. No, it's not good role modeling for men like my daughter. Every kid deserves that. I'll never forget that when she was dressed up for prom and came out to show me how pretty she looked and how much it hurt my heart that no father was around to tell her she's the one who paid the price for my decisions. Just like Ashley's child will pay for hers, for better or worse. But honestly, you could do a lot worse than 15 million plus 2 million more. Take it from someone who once had to scrounge for change because the Tooth Fairy arrived one night unexpectedly and I had no money to put under her pillow. No one offered me a payout, that's for sure. But it didn't matter how broke we were. That's the thing about parenting. You make it work. You aren't born a parent, you become one. Take responsibility for your own decisions, Ashley. You will need a good explanation when your child gets older and you have to explain to him why he's so famous now. Thank you for listening to my podcast, sashastone.substack.com and remember to thine own self be true.
Ashley St. Clair
Will never be your beast of I my broken bro my my feet are hurt All I want is you to make love to me.
Sacha Stone
I'll.
Ashley St. Clair
Never be your feet somebody I walk for miles my feet are hurt and all I want is you to make love to me Come on now am I hot enough? Am I rough enough Am I rich enough? I'm not too blind just to play I'll never be no be somebody so let's go home and try to cut and put some music on the radio now now come on baby please okay one more now am hot enough Am I rough enough? Am I rich enough? I'm not too flat lose the star print it Pretty princess such a pretty girl yeah now come on baby please I want to tell you something I tell you now you can put me out on the street now put me out put them shoes on my feet yeah now all your adapter I shrug it off now threw it all out man I shrug it off now there's one little thing baby there one little thing that you don't ever understand now you keep on telling me lie ain't too colin back ain't I rocked enough I ain't I tough enough I ain't I reaching up and loving her now come on baby girl I tell you I'll never be your be stumbled I'll never be your be somebody my love I never never never never never fail to be I take it out a little bit now come on y'all come.
Sacha Stone
Come on.
Ashley St. Clair
Time to tell you one yeah I'll never I'll never be I'll never be your feet stop I don't know Won't never be your be stop fighter I never, never, never, never, never.
Podcast Summary: Free Thinking Through the Fourth Turning with Sasha Stone
Episode: Ashley St Clair Went In With Eyes Open
Release Date: April 16, 2025
In the episode titled "Ashley St Clair Went In With Eyes Open," host Sasha Stone delves into the controversial claims made by Ashley St. Clair regarding her relationship with Elon Musk. Drawing parallels with other high-profile figures and societal trends, Stone offers a critical examination of the circumstances surrounding St. Clair's assertions.
Sasha Stone begins by addressing a recent Wall Street Journal article that purportedly covers Elon Musk's alleged intentions to cultivate a "super intelligent generation" for Mars colonization. Stone expresses skepticism about the media's portrayal, suggesting that the narrative is sensationalized to fit a particular agenda.
[00:45] "The Wall Street Journal has dropped a hit piece on Elon Musk... That's the story Ashley St. Clair is grateful they will tell."
Stone contrasts this with coverage from The Independent, which reports on St. Clair's public claims about sharing a child with Musk. According to St. Clair, Musk offered her a one-time payment of $15 million plus $100,000 monthly until their child turns 21 in exchange for her silence.
[02:15] "St. Clair, 26, went public with her claims that she and Musk share a child in February...a one time payment of $15 million plus $100,000 a month until her child turns 21 in exchange for her silence."
Stone draws a parallel between Ashley St. Clair and actress Amber Heard, both of whom have had publicized relationships resulting in children. While Heard reportedly moved to Spain with financial support to maintain privacy, St. Clair appears to seek public recognition of her relationship with Musk.
[03:30] "As long as she never says Elon Musk fathered it, she can live out her life with money and privacy... Unlike Sinclair and not needing a bounce of fame, Heard maybe took the money and ran."
Stone criticizes what she perceives as a culture of victimhood, particularly among women who make choices that lead to unintended consequences. She argues that St. Clair willingly entered into her relationship with Musk, seeking fame and financial security rather than being a passive victim.
[05:50] "Ashley St. Clair knew exactly what she was involving herself in... She didn't make that choice for her kid. She made it for herself. Own it, Ashley."
Delving deeper into Musk's personal life, Stone recounts St. Clair's experiences while dating Musk in 2023. She describes how Musk's behavior exhibited a paranoid mindset, emphasizing control and secrecy.
[06:40] "St. Clair gained an insight into Musk's paranoid way of thinking when they dated in 2023... she was ovulating. What are we waiting for? He reportedly replied, and their son was conceived."
Stone shares her own experience of moving to Italy for a relationship that resulted in an unintended pregnancy. She contrasts her situation with St. Clair's, highlighting the lack of commitment and responsibility from the men involved.
[07:07] "I went to Italy to meet a man I fell in love with on the Internet... He did not want me to have the baby... I speak from experience."
Addressing broader societal issues, Stone critiques the influencer culture that glamorizes relationships with affluent individuals for financial gain. She challenges the notion that women are empowered by such choices, arguing instead that they often lead to exploitation.
[08:50] "In a time of influencer culture, what could be a better narrative than mean old Elon flew her somewhere exotic... She's not a victim."
Throughout the episode, Stone emphasizes the importance of personal responsibility. She urges women like St. Clair to own their decisions rather than seeking sympathy or portraying themselves as victims.
[10:30] "Take responsibility for your own decisions, Ashley. You will need a good explanation when your child gets older."
In her concluding remarks, Stone reiterates her stance against viewing women who make controversial choices as victims. She underscores the significance of accountability and the long-term implications of personal decisions.
[11:50] "They are not children. They are not handmaids. They are not victims. Ashley St. Clair all but begged him, impregnate me, Elon."
The latter part of the transcript includes a musical interlude featuring Ashley St. Clair's vocals. The lyrics express themes of longing, inadequacy, and desire for recognition, which metaphorically align with the episode's critical tone towards her public persona.
[12:11 - 16:26] Ashley St. Clair performs a song with lyrics such as:
"Never be your feet
Somebody I walk for miles
My feet are hurt
All I want is you to make love to me..."
Sasha Stone's episode "Ashley St Clair Went In With Eyes Open" offers a scathing critique of both Ashley St. Clair's public claims and the broader societal mechanisms that, in Stone's view, perpetuate cycles of exploitation and victimization. By juxtaposing personal anecdotes with media analysis, Stone challenges listeners to reconsider narratives surrounding high-profile relationships and the motivations behind them.
Note: This summary is based solely on the provided transcript and aims to encapsulate the key discussions and viewpoints presented by Sasha Stone in the episode.