Obama's Museum: An Ivory Tower Made of Granite

Summary

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Free Thinking Through the Fourth Turning with Sasha Stone

Episode: Obama's Museum: An Ivory Tower Made of Granite

Date: June 20, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this incisive episode, Sasha Stone dissects the symbolism, politics, and cultural implications surrounding the grand opening of the Obama Presidential Center in Chicago. Through personal reflections, media critiques, and a tapestry of quotes and social commentary, Stone challenges the mainstream narrative, questioning the supposed unity projected by the political and cultural elite. The episode navigates issues of class, exclusion, hypocrisy, and legacy—ultimately interrogating the left's vision for America and what it means for those left out.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Obama Presidential Center: Architecture as Metaphor

[00:00]

• Stone opens with a vivid description of the Obama Center—its unyielding, imposing architecture reflecting Obama's enduring self-image and the Democratic ruling class’s detachment from everyday Americans:

  "The building perfectly reflects how Obama might see himself... He still can’t let go of his position as God and king of the once mighty utopia, one I devoted most of my life to building, protecting and defending. I was a true believer and a good soldier."
  (Sasha Stone, [00:45])

• A tweet by James Tate encapsulates the Center’s aura: "stunning, obtuse, mysterious and opaque... not blending into the landscape, but rather projecting outward with a kind of bulk you could even see from space."
• The granite edifice is tied metaphorically to Obama’s legacy—untouched by political storms much like the literal tornadoes that failed to dent it.

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2. Obama’s Message: Unity, Rhetoric, and Omission

[01:59], [03:13]

• Stone highlights the selective editing of Obama's famous Selma bridge speech, questioning the authenticity of projected unity:

  “The quote comes from Obama’s speech, not in Chicago, but at the Edmund Pettus Bridge... note the use of the word ‘we’. His speech was full of flowery language about how we have to come together as a country.”
  (Sasha Stone, [03:13])

• Obama’s unifying words:

  "...the single most powerful word in our democracy is the word we. We the People. We shall overcome. Yes, we can. That word is owned by no one. It belongs to everyone."
  (Barack Obama, [01:59])

• Stone notes the irony that, contrary to calls for inclusion, the current President and his supporters were not invited to the festivities, exposing the divide between rhetoric and reality.

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3. Critics on Obama and Unity

[04:15]

• Ben Shapiro weighs in as a “divider-in-chief” critique, labeling Obama a master at subtle exclusion:

  "The disappointment of Barack Obama... is that in 2008, he ran as the great unifier. By 2012, he was running as the great disunifier... Only if you were good, true, and decent and maybe victimized could you join in... Donald Trump is the divider. Listening to this unbelievably divisive politician, he was just subtle about it."
  (Ben Shapiro, [04:15])

• Shapiro provides specific examples of past campaign tactics against John McCain and Mitt Romney, challenging Obama’s narrative of bipartisan decency, and mocking the “let’s be friends” trope invoked by the political establishment.

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4. Social Exclusion and the "Outsiders"

[08:33]

• Stone and other contributors observe that Trump and his voters are categorized as America’s “outsiders”—excluded from elite spaces and ceremonies, which paradoxically fuels their support:

  "Trump feels like one of us who have taken the shape of Obama's sworn enemies. We are rejected outsiders because this America, their America, depends on and is built around race and gender identity."
  (Sasha Stone, [08:33])

• The left, Stone argues, has constructed “utopia” on the backs of endless cycles of “oppressed people” and “racists,” which perpetuates both victimhood and villainy.

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5. Immigration, Hypocrisy, and Virtue Signaling

[09:46 – 12:23]

• A TikToker and political commentator articulate how the Democratic framing of immigration debates is designed to elicit emotion rather than policy discussion, collapsing distinctions between legal and illegal:

  "By removing the word illegal from the conversation, they want to collapse the distinction... The same movement who says illegal immigrants are your neighbors told you to cut off your Trump-voting relatives. Your actual neighbor... it's okay to cut them off, but the person who entered the country illegally is your neighbor, and you should embrace them automatically."
  (Political Commentator, [10:13])

• Stone conceptualizes this as a “class system that pretends to be about equality... but really it’s a way of categorizing us and deciding our worth.”
  (Sasha Stone, [12:23])

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6. Cultural Policing & Cancel Culture: The Nate Bargatze Incident

[13:48 – 18:38]

• The backlash surrounding comedian Nate Bargatze attending an event with RFK Jr. is used as an example of leftist intolerance and cancel culture. Panels of online voices dissect his political leanings and the consequences of not declaring allegiance:

  "You want to say everything's not political... That statement itself is steeped in racism and hatred and bigotry and misogyny that white men have carried around for centuries in this nation. And I'm done with it... Look around you. You knew exactly what you were showing up for."
  (Social Media Critic, [15:30])

• Fan responses reveal disappointment and pressure to disavow association:

  "So, I used to like Nate Bargetzy... Now I've got a sweatshirt I've got to throw away."
  (Fan of Nate Bargatze, [16:57])

• Stone connects this to a wider point: conformity is demanded; dissent is punished.

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7. From Utopia to Dystopia: The Obama Legacy

[18:38 – 22:19]

• Stone reflects on a shift from a culture led by majority consensus and objective outcomes to one ruled by elite consensus:

  "Those of us who've been alive a long time remember when what mattered was the majority of Americans. The free market, democracy and all that... Not anymore. They want our country to look a lot like Obama's kingdom, epitomized by his brutalist monument."
  (Sasha Stone, [18:38])

• The Obama Center is positioned alongside Lincoln and Reagan as a historic landmark, but with a very different spirit: exclusion masked as progressive inclusion.

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8. The Ongoing Culture War: Media, Hollywood & Political Obsession

[22:44 – 29:14]

• Stone invokes Michael Moore's anti-Bush Oscars moment and skewers Hollywood's role in shaping political dogma through films like Vice and Don't Look Up.
• The episode features a string of comedic and critical voices lambasting the obsessive anti-Trump online culture, contrasting it with earlier anti-Bush fervor:

  "I couldn't imagine being so obsessed with a political figure, bro. Like, no matter which way you swing... You guys, man, are just like. There's something there that just isn't right."
  (Casual Commentator, [23:00])

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9. Who Really Decides? Elitism, Exclusion, and the Legacy of 'Obamalot'

[24:04 – 29:41]

• Stone directly challenges the elite’s self-professed right to set moral and electoral boundaries for the country:

  "Who do these people think they are? They don't have the right to tell the American people who they can and can't vote for. It's their job to make their best case to us... they work for us, not the other way around."
  (Sasha Stone, [24:04])

• Surrounded by images of the political “band” of former presidents and their spouses, Stone accuses them of collective amnesia about their own divisive actions—noting the war-era accusations against Bush and the mainstreaming of political purity tests.

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10. The Dystopian Endgame: 1984 Parallels and the Unbridgeable Divide

[29:41 – 34:44]

• Stone draws direct parallels with Orwell’s 1984, describing the elite’s tactics as totalitarian—controlling language, encouraging hate, and elevating leaders to near-deity status:

  “Every word of 1984 was a cautionary tale, co-opting and distorting language. Check. A Goldstein-like figure to sell two minutes of hate? Check. … Trump's win to me was like Winston Smith's hope for the future. Should the proles rise up... they could blow the party to pieces tomorrow morning.”
  (Sasha Stone, [29:41])

• The episode closes with a reflection: the Obama Center is less about what’s inside than what it represents—an exclusive, monumental testament to a cloistered elite and their mythos.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "The Obama Presidential Library really is stunning, obtuse, mysterious and opaque... projecting outward with a kind of bulk you could even see from space. Not even a tornado could make a dent."
  (James Tate via Sasha Stone, [00:45])

• "It is our greatest inheritance, the story of America at its best, because it reflects a basic faith in the decency of our fellow citizens and the possibility that despite all of our differences, we can see each other and understand one another."
  (Barack Obama, [05:15])

• "Obama made a point of saying they are all of like minds except one president, the one who defeated them again after their ten-year war."
  (Sasha Stone, [21:40])

• "They don't have the right to tell the American people who they can and can't vote for. It's their job to make their best case to us... but they work for us, not the other way around."
  (Sasha Stone, [24:04])

• "Every word of 1984 was a cautionary tale, co-opting and distorting language. Check. A Goldstein-like figure to sell two minutes of hate? Check. A mandate to love Big Brother or else? Check."
  (Sasha Stone, [29:41])

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [00:00–02:00] – Introduction and architectural metaphor
• [01:59] – Obama’s speech excerpt
• [04:15] – Ben Shapiro on Obama’s divisiveness
• [08:33] – Stone: Trump as outsider, the rules of utopia
• [10:13] – Immigration and semantic manipulation
• [13:48–18:38] – The Nate Bargatze controversy and cancel culture
• [18:38–22:19] – Utopia, legacy, and cultural class
• [24:04–25:45] – Who has the right to set the moral and electoral agenda
• [29:41–34:44] – Orwellian parallels, 1984 references, the conclusion

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Tone and Takeaways

Sasha Stone’s tone is impassioned, reflective, at times mournful, and sharply critical of what she sees as leftist overreach, exclusion, and hypocrisy. The episode acts as both a cultural diagnosis and a call for ordinary Americans to reclaim political and cultural voice. The Obama Center stands not just as a monument to a political legacy, but, in Stone’s telling, as a symbol of elite insularity and the growing authoritarian tendency among American progressives.

Final Provocation:

"The museum reflects that better than anything ever has. What’s inside? It doesn't matter. It looms large."
(Sasha Stone, [34:44])

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Transcript

[Sacha Stone]

Hi, this is Free Thinking through the Fourth Turning. I'm Sacha Stone. Obama's Museum an ivory tower made of granite. Why do Democrats think their perpetual sneer is the best play to unite this country? Because that is not their goal. The emergence of America's ruling class in Chicago to celebrate the Obama Presidential Center Museum hit like a gust of hot, wet wind just days before tornadoes tore through Illinois and Iowa, upending homes and wreaking havoc on the landscape. By the time Barack Obama and his royal court were ready to roll out the red carpet, the skies had cleared. The building perfectly reflects how Obama might see himself, but certainly how he's ruled over the past 15 years. He still can't let go of his position as God and king of the once mighty utopia, one I devoted most of my life to building, protecting and defending. I was a true believer and a good soldier. For podcast listeners, a tweet by James Tate with a picture of the Obama Library. The Obama Presidential Library really is stunning, obtuse, mysterious and opaque. The building, like its inspiration, towers over the indistinguishable figures below the swirling paths and gardens, not blending into the landscape, but rather projecting outward with a kind of bulk you could even see from space. Not even a tornado could make a dent. The quote on the side of the mighty beast reads, you are America, unconstrained

[Barack Obama]

by habit and convention, unencumbered by what is, because you're ready to seize what ought to be. For everywhere in this country, there are first steps to be taken. There's new ground to cover. There are more bridges to be crossed. And it is you, the young and fearless at heart, the most diverse and educated generation in our history, who the nation is waiting to follow. Because Selma shows us that America is not the project of any one person. Because the single most powerful word in our democracy is the word we. We, the people. We shall overcome. Yes, we can. That word is owned by no one. It belongs to everyone. Oh, what a glorious task we are given to continually try to improve this great nation of ours.

[Sacha Stone]

The quote comes from Obama's speech, not in Chicago, but at the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama. Most of the rest of it has been trimmed away to make the statement appear more inclusive, shall we say? But note the use of the word we. His speech was full of flowery language about how we have to come together as a country. There's a tweet from Heather. Everyone got invited to the biggest celebration in America for the Obamas, except for this guy. He was not invited because no one likes him because he's a lying, crude, rude, degrading, belittling, bullying, unpatriotic, un American, racist, homophobic, rapist felon. The sitting President of the United States and the majority of Americans who voted for him were not invited to the party. Not only weren't they invited, but they're also not allowed anywhere at any time in a society largely controlled by the left. Here is Ben Shapiro.

[Ben Shapiro]

Obama, the racial divider in chief, opened his truly hideous presidential center on the south side of Chicago yesterday. He spent his time reprising his more Perfect Union speech. He was preaching unity and hope. As I've said before, the disappointment of Barack Obama as a politician and a human being is that in 2008, he ran as the great unifier. And. And by 2012, he was running as the great disunifier. He was running as a man who divided Americans based on race, based on sexual orientation, based on political acumen. And then he would. And then he would proclaim that only if you were good, true and decent and maybe victimized could you join in the project of America. Now he is back to I'm a unifier. Donald Trump is the divider. Listening to this unbelievably divisive politician. He was just subtle about it. He was good at it. President Trump is not a uniter. He obviously is quite divisive, but he also says all the quiet parts out loud. Barack Obama's entire shtick for years was that he would pretend that he was trying to unify while saying some of the most divisive stuff in American history. Here he was yesterday.

[Barack Obama]

And they are not Republican or Democratic values. They're American values we can all share, regardless of party values. Every president here today, as different as we are, has tried our best to uphold values that John McCain and Mitt Romney believed in no less than I did. It is our greatest inheritance, the story of America at its best, because it reflects a basic faith in the decency of our fellow citizens and the possibility that despite all of our differences, we can see each other and understand one another.

[Ben Shapiro]

Okay, this guy destroyed John McCain. And then he proceeded to destroy Mitt Romney as a human being. Listening to him talk about the values we hold in common with John McCain, he suggested that John McCain was just George W. Bush, part three. He went after Mitt Romney and suggested his super PACs, said that Mitt Romney was a person who was getting people killed of cancer because of his terrible record in the capital markets. His campaign pushed out propaganda about Mitt Romney forcibly cutting the hair of gay kids. When he was a teenager and strapping a dog to the top of his car, his vice president went out there proclaiming that Mitt Romney wanted to re enslave black people. Listening to Barack Obama talk about divisiveness and how he wants to stop it, it's like O.J. simpson's book, if I did it, you did it, dude. He continued, along these lines, deep in

[Barack Obama]

our gut, we want to find a way to turn towards each other again, not further away. I believe this because I've seen it all across our country. In cities that have worked together to reclaim their streets from crime, in rural communities that have rebuilt their economy, in businesses that are finding new ways to make housing affordable. In those ordinary people in the Twin Cities who brave frigid temperatures, risk their own safety standing shoulder to shoulder to look out for their neighbors and sometimes look out for strangers because they knew that was the right thing to do.

[Ben Shapiro]

We want to be best friends with each other again. We're going to be best friend. Not you. Not you, Bob, step back. And Barack Obama is great unifier. It was always pathetic. And again, this is why Trump shattered. He really did sort of shatter the bizarre media consensus that everybody had to be friends. This is one of my points of great, great irritation with George W. Bush. There are a lot of things that I think have been, you know, directed at George W. Bush incorrectly. I think that many of the ways people talk about the war in Iraq are rather disgusting, actually. And what George W. Bush did during that war, with that said, these sort of, we're all in solidarity. The Bushes acting as though they were chummy with the Obamas while the Obamas divided the country. It was hard to stomach, for sure. And the fact that Donald Trump really didn't do that, I think it was sort of a breath of fresh air in that sense.

[Sacha Stone]

No, Trump would not be allowed in, and he never really was. Which goes a long way toward explaining why he won the second time. Trump feels like one of us who have taken the shape of Obama's sworn enemies. We are rejected outsiders because this America, their America, depends on and is built around race and gender identity. Both Barack and Michelle Obama made a point of elevating the illegal immigrants who crossed over under Joe Biden and celebrated the citizen army that went to war on federal officers. Even after condemning such actions on January 6th. They prioritize illegal immigrants because they are mostly non white and thus have special protective status as long as they vote blue, no matter who, of course. And yet for most Americans, they still don't understand why they've been sidelined like this. Once you understand the rules of utopia, where an endless supply of oppressed people along with an endless supply of racists is what powers their engine. Here is a tiktoker commenting on Michelle Obama.

[TikToker]

They are the beating heart of this country. They are us, and we are them. And to ignore this simple truth, to refuse to respect the contributions and experiences of people who aren't exactly like us, y' all put puts us all at risk. Failing to see the humanity in all people puts us all on a slip.

[Political Commentator]

Here's something that I cannot get past. There is a consistent, calculated and deliberate strategy that is being formed around our immigration discussion, where the Democratic Party found it to be politically advantageous to impact apportionment and maintain power in the House of Representatives. And so now they, their party platform has adopted the idea that immigrants come first. This conversation has nothing to do with policy. It has everything to do with emotional framing and, and attempting to move you from focusing on the law and to completely drag you into your emotions. Because nobody likes someone who's mean to their neighbor. I mean, duh, all of the good feelings that you have about legal immigrants, that emotion gets transferred to everybody, to people who, you don't know their background. We have no idea who they are. You don't know their circumstances. You don't know if they have records back home. You have no idea about these people, but they're your neighbors. By removing the word illegal from the conversation, they want to collapse the distinction. This is an example of semantic conflation, and it's very intentional. Now, any policy that enforces immigration feels like you're being harmful to your neighbor. The emotional response is going to be to shut down any conversation or political analysis of the problem. And that is exactly the point and why they're doing this. Here's what I can't get past. It's the blatant hypocrisy. Same political movement who tells you that illegal immigrants are your neighbors is the same political party that told you that if your relatives, your spouse, your friends, your children, your mother, your father voted for Trump, you should cut them off. And in some cases, even if they didn't vote for Trump, even if they're just Republican or independent and just not Democrat, that you should disinvite them to Christmas dinner. Let me say this again very clearly. Your actual neighbor, the one who grew up next door to you, the one who spent years with you, the one who's lived life with you, the one who shares your bloodline, it's okay to cut them off. According to this particular party, if they voted differently than you, the message is yes, cut them off. But the person who entered the country illegally under unknown circumstances, who you've never met, is your neighbor and you should embrace them automatically.

[Sacha Stone]

It's an ideology that comes from Western countries overtaken by global elites who need this form of virtue signaling to justify their power and their worldwide alliance. But it doesn't do much for ordinary Americans who don't have the luxury of putting themselves last. For podcast listeners, a tweet from Mia Farrow, World leaders at the Obama Presidential Center. I see Angela, Merkel, Trudeau, etc. Many celebrities, every living former US president, beautiful, much loved and respected Obama family. It is a kind of class system that pretends to be about equality, about inclusion and diversity, but really it's a way of categorizing us and deciding our worth. If you can participate in this game, you can go far. But if you don't, out you go. Nate Bargazzi dared to show up alongside RFK Jr and his wife Cheryl. The Internet found out about it and things got so bad his publicist had to issue a statement that he wasn't a Trump supporter. What kind of America is this? If they want to talk about unity, they have to call off their attack dogs. Nate Bargetzi, the top selling comedian in the United States today, decided to go full MAGA and may have destroyed his booming career.

[Political Analyst]

I'm gonna tell you how to know if somebody's maga. It's real easy. If they're silent, they are maga. The default position is MAGA unless stated otherwise. Another good way to tell is if the only issue that they're very vocal about is is data centers. Data centers is a perfect, perfect issue for people who are MAGA but don't want to be seen as MAGA because they can be racist, sexist, homophobic, whatever, and still feel like they're on the right side of a social issue for the first time. So they're very, very vocal about data centers right now. Another good way to know is if they talk a lot about Israel. They don't like Israel, but they're pretty silent on basically every other social issue. They love hammering data centers and Israel right now because they feel like they are finally on the right side of a social issue, but they don't have to change anything about themselves. They don't have to actually be good people. So they're very excited about this new social issue, data centers in Israel, that they can finally join the right Side. Oh, look, guys, I'm such a warrior. I'm on the right side, just like you guys. But if that. If those are the only issues that they talk about, you can. That's pretty sure fire that they are maga.

[Comedian Commentator]

Aside from all that, on a purely internal level, when it comes to Nate Bargazi, if you believe that not using profanity and keeping your material clean as a performing artist inherently raises your stock and makes you more valuable not just as a performer, but as a human being, that's giving Christian conservative. That's giving MAGA all day.

[Social Media Critic]

Don't lie to us, Nate. We know why you were there. You want to say everything's not political, you're not political. It's precisely that serious. We become the things that we tolerate. Which is why I'm here to drag you on the Internet for publicly having the audacity to say I'm not political. That statement itself is steeped in the racism and hatred and bigotry and misogyny that white men have carried around for centuries in this nation. And I'm done with it. I am tired of unimpressive white dudes getting a pass when they say, I'm not political. Look around you. You knew exactly what you were showing up for. You know exactly who he is. You're just too much of a coward to say it. You're too much of a coward to risk your entire platform by coming out and saying, actually, I'm Nate Barnazzi. So what is it? Which one is it, Nate? You don't get to say I'm not political and then show up to a UFC cage fight on the White House lawn while we are in the middle of a fascist takeover?

[Social Media User]

Who is actually surprised by this? Were you born yesterday? Are you smarter than a fifth grader? Oh, you mean the white celebrity who says they don't do politics is a secret maggo?

[Casual Commentator]

What?

[Social Media User]

Oh, wait, guys, it's fine. His rep just says he likes ufc, and that's why he's going to Bill Cosby's alcoholic rager later because he loves alcohol. What are you, a dancing monkey? Quit going to rapist parties, kid.

[Fan of Nate Bargazzi]

So, I used to like Nate Bargetzy. My wife even got me tickets to his show for my birthday last year. You know, it was enjoyable. Now I've got a sweatshirt I've got to throw away. So I was looking forward to his new show coming out, too. And I know what I won't be.

[Audience Member]

Dear Nate Burgetzky, I just have a little story for you. I had a chance to go to your concert last year and it was so fun. I love that you're just never offensive, but let's just pretend for a minute that you had a moment where you started spouting something that was incredibly offensive. It was racist, it was misogynistic, it was just so wrong. And because I love your comedy, there's a picture of me in the background laughing because I love your comedy. If that clip went viral, I would have to explain to my family, my friends, my followers who know that that's not what I stand for, that I only went because I usually love your comedy. But that particular statement that you made was offensive and should not have been said. By forgetting that last part in all of your press releases, you are telling us way more with your silence than you ever have with your words.

[Sacha Stone]

Those of us who've been alive a long time remember when what mattered was the majority of Americans. The free market, democracy and all that box office ratings and elections all decided the direction of our country and our culture. Not anymore. They want our country to look a lot like Obama's kingdom, epitomized by his brutalist monument. He's way up there and we're all way down here. And if you worship that, way we'll all get along fine, they say. But don't you dare vote in a way that we don't like or we will go to war. So is that the plan from here on out? Must all elections be sanctioned and approved by the Democrats or else? From utopia to dystopia. Obama was not born in Chicago, but his monument will reside there as a showcase of his preferred legacy. He's the Chicago guy, not the Hawaii guy. The fortress will be a place for travelers driving across this country to stop and admire, along with other historic landmarks in Illinois, like the birthplace of Abe Lincoln and Ronald Reagan, two of Obama's strongest influences. Or so he has said. The Obama museum event was a reminder of how we all shaped this story, the bad guys and the good guys of Obama's Camelot. Obamalot the height of the glory days where everyone had a seat at the table and we'd mostly eradicated the ists and and the phobes. I think Obama thought making history as the first black president meant more than just winning an election. And that the influence he had and the power he attained made him more than just a two term public servant. He was, after all, living history. And everywhere we look, we can see his fingerprints. It was a play. Hamilton. It was Bruce Springsteen before he shrank into a bitter old Prune. It was Tom Hanks when he could still open movies. It was when Oprah still had influence.

[News Reporter]

We want to take you live to the White House, where earlier today First Lady Michelle Obama hosted Broadway's Hamilton. At the White House, you can see President Obama is now in front of a podium where he's about to introduce the cast. Let's listen in.

[Barack Obama]

After the curtain fell. So feeling a little deprived, we invited the cast to perform today because we wanted to share this incredible musical with folks who might otherwise not get the experience. And I want to thank them so much, the show's producers, for helping to bring Hamilton to the White House.

[Sacha Stone]

Podcast listeners. A tweet from Lakota Man. The Obama Presidential center is a reflection close to perfection. They think that showcasing their high status while locking out so many Americans is enviable. It's U2 and Oprah. It's Julia Roberts and George Clooney. It's Jennifer Hudson and Steven Spielberg. It's all four former presidents and their first ladies. Obama made a point of saying they are all of like minds except one president, the one who defeated them again after their ten year war. Happy birthday, Donald Trump. May this be your last one.

[News Reporter]

Cheers.

[Online Troll]

Today's Donald Trump's birthday, you fat Teddy f cking bitch. I hope you fall down the stairs and your cankles break. I hope you get the worst swamp ass of your life in this heat. I hope you go to open up all your presents. It's just pieces of poop. Just piles of poop and gift wrap. I genuinely hope today is the worst day of your life, you piece of fat titty ass fascist. Go ahead and suck a fat stinky, have a heart attack and then die.

[Comedian Commentator]

Today somebody told me that I'm gonna

[Political Commentator]

go to jail for saying that the

[Sacha Stone]

President's gonna pass away soon. I hope you have a good day. Jesus Christ. Can he die already? I just want to have one day of rest.

[Casual Commentator]

I couldn't imagine being so obsessed with a political figure, bro. Like, no matter which way you swing, okay, I just saw that ginger dude. I forgot his name, but he's the guy with the long hair. Always talking about Trump. Always talk. Okay, how are you guys so obsessed with this guy? Still years and years and years and years in that you guys are talking about the Knicks game and how Trump's gonna go. And you guys are like, oh my God, a bad omen is coming, bro. Get over it. Why is every single thing in your life tied to this guy? I don't know about you. When I don't like somebody, if I want to. I say my piece and I move on. I don't make it a lifestyle and an identity. Don't get me wrong. Did I vote for Trump?

[Sacha Stone]

Sure can.

[Casual Commentator]

I care less if Trump, you know, is the president or not. Hopefully he does great things, but it's not my personality. These guys, man, are just like. There's something there that just isn't right.

[Sacha Stone]

Who do these people think they are? They don't have the right to tell the American people who they can and can't vote for. It's their job to make their best case to us, to earn our votes. And either they do or they don't. But they work for us, not the other way around. For podcast listeners, a tweet by MJ Truth Ultra named this band and it's Joe Biden and Jill, Barack Obama and Michelle W. Bush and Laura, Bill Clinton and Hillary. We're all supposed to cheer seeing them standing there as a united front against the sitting President. They have absolutely no self awareness about how tone deaf this appears to most people. Do they think we've forgotten? Do they think we don't remember Michael Moore calling George W. Bush a war criminal at the Oscars? And the Oscar goes too.

[News Reporter]

Hmm. Bowling for Columbine.

[Michael Moore]

Michael Moore and Michael Donovan.

This is the first Academy Award and

[Sacha Stone]

nomination for Michael Moore and Michael Donovan.

[Michael Moore]

On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn and Michael Donovan from Canada, I'd like to thank the Academy for this. I've invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us and we would like to. They are here. They are here in solidarity with me because we like nonfiction. We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in a time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. Whether it's the fictitious of duct tape or the fictitious of orange alerts, we are against this war. Mr. Bush, shame on you. Mr. Bush, shame on you. And anytime you've got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up.

[Sacha Stone]

Their terrible, blatant propaganda films like Oliver Stone's Wife.

[Michael Moore]

Any other brilliant ideas?

[Advisor]

How about Axis of Weasels?

[Michael Moore]

Don't get cute, Carl. Serious now.

[Sacha Stone]

I. I think it needs to be stronger. Just cut through the noise. Like Reagan with the evil Empire speech. Well, is it too much then to. What about Axis of Evil?

[Michael Moore]

Axis of Evil. Evil, yeah, I like the ring of that. It's good, Mr. President.

[Advisor]

Axis brings up World War II. You can't link Germany and Japan With Iraq and North Korea.

[Sacha Stone]

I disagree, Colin. Weapons of mass destruction make these countries more dangerous.

[Ben Shapiro]

We've got to begin educating the public

[Sacha Stone]

about the size of this war and its implications.

[Advisor]

You have an approval rating of more than 80% right now, sir. It's just astounding. Not since Roosevelt after Pearl Harbor. The American people want revenge. They liked Afghanistan. They want more.

[News Reporter]

Mr. President, if I may, given your strong commitment to democracy, do you think that Iran should be lumped together with Iraq and North Korea? After all, Iran has a democratically elected president.

[Michael Moore]

As always, guru sharp.

[News Reporter]

Thank you.

[Michael Moore]

Iran is not Iraq and Iraq is not Iran. I know that we can get one democracy going in one of these places. Iran, Iraq. Believe me, Reagan was right. It's gonna spread to all these countries. Cause people want freedom. With this message, we're sending strong word to reformers over there in Iran to turn on these deadbeat dead enders, these Ayatollah cockamamies. No, Iran stays in.

[Advisor]

When you make threats, sir, you have to back them up. Now, you'd be committing us to planning out three fully operational wars with three countries.

[Michael Moore]

Now, I'm not saying war. I'm saying lay down the law.

[Advisor]

But the speech as written is taking a preemptive posture against countries, none of whom have declared war on us. 60 years now this.

[Sacha Stone]

This country and Adam McKay's truly awful film about Dick Cheney Vice one of the worst films ever made, with the sole exception of his next movie. Don't look up. We will also be receiving the daily intelligence briefing before the President gets us inside the decision curve, which we'll actually be reading. Bush approved all of this.

[Narrator]

We have a

[Sacha Stone]

understanding. What about the emails? Paper shutters don't work for emails. The entire administration will run off the RNC's private server. And we've deactivated automatic archiving. We're clean. They're not finished. They expect the other half of the country to choke down more of it, unending amounts of it, in hopes of forcing us all into compliance through the worst art the film industry has ever seen because it is under complete control of a totalitarian movement. Next year, we'll be tortured with a sure to be terrible Sean Penn Film. On January 6th, for podcast listeners, a tweet from ABC News. Sean Penn will direct a movie about a police officer who was at the January 6 Capitol riot. They still see themselves as fighting the oppressive forces against them, when the truth is that they are the oppressive force. Trump was the way out. The clocks were striking 13. If any of us had been paying attention, we'd have known what we built mirrored Orwell's 1984 and where it would ultimately take us. Every word of 1984 was a cautionary tale, co opting and distorting language. Check. A Goldstein like figure to sell two minutes of hate? Check. A mandate to love Big Brother or else? Check. And inside of accepted citizens ruled by the party elites and policed by the children spies? Check. The abandoned working class, the proles outside of it? Check. Trump's win to me was like Winston Smith's hope for the future. Should the proles rise up, quote but the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They need only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. And if they chose, they could blow the party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it. That Obama and the rest of the establishment did worse than refuse to step aside, but went to war on the duly elected president in an attempt to impeach, indict, discredit and destroy him is the smoking gun that they no longer believe in American democracy. It's their way or nothing. Americans have no way out. For podcast listeners, a tweet from USA Today the Obama Presidential center brought out celebrities and prominent politicians like Gavin Newsom and Oprah. See them mingle in the crowd. All the people ever had was Trump, and indeed he was and remains a mighty force. He is the troll to Obama's virtue signal, the two Internet presidents who led whole armies online facing off against each other for 15 years. Obama's 10 year plea to the American people to choose him feels desperate by now. Choose me. Love me. Follow me. Worship me. It doesn't mean America is racist, because they didn't. That has been the left's method of policing all of us for far too long, and this country can unify the minute they snap out of it. They want us to see them as the better side, the special people, our gods and goddesses. But I look at them and I see people who have long since cut themselves off from the rest of the country and have no plans to ever change. The museum reflects that better than anything ever has. What's inside? It doesn't matter. It looms large. Thank you for listening to my podcast. You can find more of my [e-mail] and if you'd like to become a paid subscriber or leave a tip, you can scroll down the homepage and find a link for that. And thanks so much for all the support, for the comments, for the letters, for the cards, for the donations, for the contributions. You guys are the best. And I'd be lying if I didn't say I had quite a few dark nights of the soul. And sometimes I wake up and I think, oh, this is really bad. Then I remember I have these wonderful people who like what I write. And that makes me feel a little bit better. So I hope you have a great weekend. And remember, to thine own self be true.

[Narrator]

You walk into the room with your pencil in your hand. You see somebody naked and you say, who is that man? You try so hard, but you don't understand just what you will say when you get home. Because something is happening here. But you don't know what it is. Do you, Mr. Jones? You raise up your head and you ask, is this where it is? And somebody points to you and says, it's his. And you say, what's mine? And somebody else says, well, what is? And you say, oh, my God, am I here all along? And something has happened here, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Char? You have many contacts among the lumberjacks too. Get you facts when somebody attacks your imagination. Nobody has any respect anyway, they already expect you to all give a check to tax deductible charity organization. You've been with a professor. They've all liked your looks with great lawyers. You have discussed lepers and crooks. You've been through all of F. Scott Fitzgerald books. You're very well read. It's well known. But something has happened here and you don't know what it is. You, Mr. Jones, Where you walk into the room like a camel and then you frown. You put your eyes in your pocket and your nose on the ground. There ought to be a law against you coming around. You should be made to where phones. Cause something is happening. You don't know what it is. Do you, Mr. Jones? Cause something is happening and you don't know what it is. Do you, Mr. Jones?

[Fan of Nate Bargazzi]

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