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Ed Sheeran
Yeah, Chuck. He looks just like him.
Lil Dicky
Well, I feel.
Dave
What's this Chuck stuff?
Ed Sheeran
Uh, you know. You never heard us say it.
Lil Dicky
I don't. Well, it's more him than me, wouldn't you say?
Dave
Say it.
Lil Dicky
It's basically a nickname. It's like, for example, I call her Mochi, and she calls me Mochi. So. But for whatever reason, I think with Chuck, it's. It's said more than Mochi.
Kristen
But you called everyone Chuck, I think.
Ed Sheeran
No, he. No.
Lil Dicky
So basically, it was our nickname for each other. He started calling all of his friends no, to my dismay. Like, so weird.
Ed Sheeran
That's not what happened.
Lil Dicky
Like, yesterday, he was on the phone with Blake, and Blake says Chuck just as much as we say Chuck.
Ed Sheeran
Okay, let me explain to you what happened.
Lil Dicky
Just think of a different name.
Ed Sheeran
No, there's three people in the world that are called. There's three people that I call Chuck in the world.
Lil Dicky
Okay.
Ed Sheeran
Okay. And who are they? You?
Dave
Yep.
Ed Sheeran
Blake and David.
Lil Dicky
Okay.
Ed Sheeran
And it was. And it was. And what happened? And my brother every once in a while says it to me. I don't ever say it back to him. So what happened is those people started saying it so much to me, I never said it to them. Well, and there's more people. The entire world says it to us in the street. It's because we put it in the TV show.
Dave
Right, right, right.
Lil Dicky
Still, I didn't think it was that. Anyways. Yeah. Did you know how I met Ed?
Dave
We met on Skype.
Lil Dicky
Like, Skype?
Dave
Yeah, Skype.
Lil Dicky
What are you. Right.
Ed Sheeran
It was Skype.
Dave
It wasn't even Zoom. It was Skype and Ben, like. So I'd listened to Save that Money. So Cherry was a fan. So your music was big at Duke University? I think so. Cherry was a fan. She played me Save that Money. And then Benny was like, I'm friends with Dickie, and we've been asked to do a song for the Lego Batman movie.
Kristen
Oh, yeah.
Dave
So we got on Skype and we wrote a song. Still the only song that we've written together. I know I was on the Chris Brown tune, but I obviously didn't write my bits.
Kristen
Yeah, you guys did it all over Skype.
Ed Sheeran
The best part is I had to go to the bathroom, and I just left Dave on Skype with Ed.
Lil Dicky
By the way, this is, like, from my perspective, I was, like, the biggest
Kristen
person you've ever met.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. Yeah.
Kristen
There's a lot of air traffic today.
Lil Dicky
There's so much air traffic.
Ed Sheeran
Should we go inside?
Lil Dicky
We should go inside. Because of the Air traffic.
Ed Sheeran
I think it's all gone. Pete's tongue.
Lil Dicky
What's that?
Ed Sheeran
It's all gone. Pete tongue.
Lil Dicky
I don't know.
Ed Sheeran
What you're saying means it's all gone wrong.
Lil Dicky
Listen to the air traffic.
Kristen
I know there's so. Well, it's Friday.
Dave
How many times do you want to say air traffic?
Lil Dicky
Twice.
Dave
It's actually the third time.
Kristen
I wonder if it's because it's Friday and people are taking off for the weekend.
Ed Sheeran
Buddha, Magenta.
Lil Dicky
Anything to drink? A full fridge if you need.
Dave
I'm all right. It's quite cool in there.
Kristen
Do you have one guitar that you. Is your lucky guitar that you take everywhere?
Dave
I used to when I was, like, 21.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, you used to. I used to have one guitar. It was so beaten, so battered. Yeah. And he was so scared to get a new one. And then he finally did.
Dave
I set up my own guitar company. So now it's just, like, a constant stream of.
Ed Sheeran
But he used to, like, have a guitar, and it was like, it would have, like, so much stuff on it. He's also, like, a little collector of things. He used to, like, collect, like, every, like, wristband and, like.
Lil Dicky
Do you have, like, rituals or OCD about things where you get stuck in these patterns?
Dave
Nah. Nah.
Lil Dicky
Cool.
Dave
No, I'm trying to think.
Ed Sheeran
You were hoping you could be like, dude, me too.
Dave
I get, like. If I don't exercise. There's something out of whack in my day now.
Kristen
Yeah.
Dave
I really find I have to do something every morning.
Kristen
What do you do? Like, run.
Ed Sheeran
You don't have to.
Dave
Anything.
Ed Sheeran
You don't have to be like, anything, anything.
Lil Dicky
Do you have to shower before you have to get wet before you exercise?
Ed Sheeran
What?
Lil Dicky
I have to. I can't even do anything until I'm soaked once. I can't get out of bed unwet.
Dave
You've got some really interesting kinks, man. I like it.
Ed Sheeran
Wait, you chuck, you have to be soaked to do anything?
Kristen
Yeah. Starting soap.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Lil Dicky
I can't. Like, when I have a workout, I will. I don't use soap. I'll just rinse.
Dave
Surely at the end you get in an ice bath and soak, and then he doesn't.
Lil Dicky
Oh, I get back in after.
Ed Sheeran
Clean myself.
Kristen
If he gets sweaty after the second shower, then he doesn't stop talking about
Lil Dicky
how there's nothing worse than sweating after a shower. I get so.
Ed Sheeran
You're really wasting.
Dave
Get your CBT down before you do that shower.
Ed Sheeran
Do you shower every day?
Dave
Yeah, sometimes twice a day. Mostly twice a day, actually.
Ed Sheeran
Really?
Dave
I feel like I'm like you, though. I look like I don't smell good. Yeah, but actually, you're the best smelling person I know.
Ed Sheeran
I smell good and I never like. Even if I don't shower.
Kristen
You smell your hands or something.
Ed Sheeran
Smell me. Come here. Smell. Smell me wherever you want.
Lil Dicky
He always smells good.
Kristen
No smell, no smell. No smell.
Lil Dicky
People used to say that I have a particular smell. They said it's not good or bad. You have a smell. I found that so unnerving.
Ed Sheeran
Sometimes you stink. I know I can stink his like,
Lil Dicky
but I don't smell bad. I've heard that. I still have a smell that's not good or bad.
Kristen
Well, by my belly button. Because that is my belly button.
Ed Sheeran
You want to smell his belly button?
Dave
No.
Ed Sheeran
Really crazy.
Kristen
You will never check.
Ed Sheeran
Get him to smell.
Kristen
Smell it. No, I don't know if he should. I don't know. It's really terrible.
Ed Sheeran
No, no, no.
Lil Dicky
Get him to smell.
Kristen
I feel bad.
Lil Dicky
It's okay.
Kristen
He might throw up.
Lil Dicky
It's not going to throw up. Let's not feel. Here you go.
Kristen
I can't even watch. I'm ashamed.
Ed Sheeran
Doesn't it smell? It's one of the worst smells I've ever smelled.
Dave
That's like a bum hole. Jesus Christ.
Ed Sheeran
I don't understand why.
Lil Dicky
Gotta wash the hands.
Kristen
You gotta stop doing it.
Lil Dicky
I broke his body down.
Ed Sheeran
I know. Mine smells just like. Nothing.
Lil Dicky
Do you wash your belly button? I don't wash inside of my belly button. I let the soap. Oh, you kind of have a narrow.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, I have a deep. Mine doesn't smell like.
Lil Dicky
Do you have a deep hole in your belly button? Is that.
Dave
Can I have something that's gonna take that smell away?
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Dave
Let me make some more coffee.
Ed Sheeran
You sure you don't want another whiff?
Lil Dicky
Yeah. Kill that coffee.
Ed Sheeran
Oh, I will tell you, Ed is one of the clumsiest people out there. Now.
Lil Dicky
This is a weird machine. No, no, no.
Ed Sheeran
He's one of the clumsiest people.
Lil Dicky
Oh, this lid doesn't work.
Ed Sheeran
One time, Ed was. And it was right when we got one of those, you know, those. Those, like, machines that, like. You go like this. And, like. It was like a scooter and you, like, roll forward on it. Okay. Right when I got one, he was like. He was, like, going like this. He was like. At my house, he was like. And he was, like, moving around on it, and he just. And I had a glass dining room table, and he just smashed into it and just exploded. Just like.
Dave
We have this friend Emil, who, like, spent close to 100 grand on a rug. And I went round there, and we were drinking, like, nice wine together. And I was like, I'm gonna spill this wine on your rug as a joke.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Dave
And he was like, don't do that. And I was like, nah, all good. And then later on in the night, I tripped up and spilled it all over the rug. And he thought I'd done it on purpose. And I was like, that was.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Kristen
What happens next? Was he upset?
Dave
Let's take spent 100 grand on a rug.
Ed Sheeran
One time we were at my house. We were literally at my house, and we were working. Cause we used to make all the songs, like, out of, like, my house, out of, like, a bus out of, you know, wherever. And Ed was like, I'm so hungry. And he's obsessed with ketchup. Okay, so same.
Dave
Same.
Ed Sheeran
What, are you that obsessed?
Lil Dicky
Oh, my gosh. I was so jealous that you had the ketchup commercial. Chuck, Are you.
Dave
That was my.
Ed Sheeran
Chuck. Are you that obsessed?
Kristen
No.
Lil Dicky
I reach out to them and ask. Before that commercial, I would constantly be like, hey, like, I love Heinz ketchup. If you ever. And they're like, we just don't really need to advertise.
Dave
They did say that to me. They said, we don't need to advertise. And then when I came with the advert. Because we did eggshell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because what I do, I usually carry a bag. A bottle of Heinz ketchup in my bag. Because when you get to restaurants and they're like, sometimes really, really fancy restaurants, they're like, we don't do ketchup. And I'm like, but you do fries. Like, why wouldn't you do ketchup? So I carry it. And then the advert is that me going to a fancy restaurant. And then they bring the food. And then I just.
Ed Sheeran
So as for his advertising.
Kristen
You gotta call him back. You gave it to everyone.
Lil Dicky
They already did it. They already did it.
Ed Sheeran
Kristen. He's at my house, and I just got, like, this beautiful blanket. Like, I. Like, it was from, like, ABC home, and it's like this gorgeous blanket. And he's at my house, and he's like, oh, I gotta eat some food. And so he, like, gets the food. And, like, I'm about to say, like, maybe don't do it. Cause he's so clumsy. But, like, he didn't do it. And then he goes to get the ketchup, and he like. You know how sometimes you gotta shake it like this?
Dave
No.
Ed Sheeran
And the entire bottle exploded. All over the thing. And he just goes, like. And he was like, my bad. And he just, like, kind of crumpled the thing up and just put it to the side.
Lil Dicky
That's funny. I used to bring ketchup bottles to my, like, school. Eighth grade, high school. Cause they had a packet limit that they would give out as cafeteria staff. So I brought my own.
Dave
My guy. And also, man, school food, like, that was very much like, at school. Like, if you got like a shit sausage roll or a shit bit of pizza. Need some lubrication.
Kristen
Sausage roll.
Ed Sheeran
If you get a shit sausage roll,
Kristen
I gotta say, don't like ketchup.
Ed Sheeran
What?
Kristen
I don't like it.
Lil Dicky
You don't?
Ed Sheeran
I love mustard.
Kristen
I'm a mustard girl. Do you like mustard?
Unidentified Singer
Yeah.
Dave
But English mustard. I feel like American mustard. Honestly, some of the condiments here. And the chocolate.
Lil Dicky
Pray tell, tell us you hate the chocolate here.
Ed Sheeran
What's the chocolate in the uk?
Dave
Have you eaten Hershey's?
Ed Sheeran
But you guys have the worst Hershey's. You have terrible gummy candies, but you have the best chocolate.
Dave
Yeah, but our gummy candies are terrible because they don't have, like, 75 million ingredients.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, but I want the cancer ingredients.
Kristen
What's the good chocolate that you have that we can't get?
Ed Sheeran
Oh, my God. Milk.
Dave
Yeah. I mean, Cadbury's lint dairy milk is insane. Dairy milk. But European chocolate, Belgian chocolate, Swiss chocolate,
Ed Sheeran
like, is the best crumble is insane.
Kristen
Cadbury eggs. That's. That's you, right?
Ed Sheeran
Have you ever been to the uk?
Kristen
Yeah, once. That's.
Ed Sheeran
No. That's sad.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
You went once.
Kristen
Yeah. Here's the thing I'm gonna say, which is maybe controversial. I didn't love. I don't love fish and chips.
Dave
Did you have it in London?
Kristen
I don't know.
Dave
Did you have it by the seaside? Could you see the sea when you were eating it?
Kristen
No.
Dave
That is why.
Kristen
Yeah. Maybe I just got the. I only had it, like, once, and I thought, this is everything, basically.
Dave
London. London is obviously the hub. It's all the tourists come. The UK is like, huge. It's like, if I was like, right. I had barbecue food in New York. And that's what I'm judging it on. And you're like, well, you have to go to, like, the best place. Austin Stubbs or something. Stubbs would be. What would be the best barbecue you could have?
Ed Sheeran
Not stuff.
Lil Dicky
Kansas City has good barbecue, I hear,
Dave
but you know what I mean, that would be controversial. But my view, because I grew up near the seaside Is you have to
Ed Sheeran
see the sea when you're in Europe. When I'm there, we'll go take a trip down to his town. It's amazing. He has a house, this town.
Kristen
He owns the town.
Ed Sheeran
Well, no, he grew up. He grew up. Okay, first of all, let me just explain this to you. He grew up in a town of like 2,000 people, and then he moved into a town and next to his town, where it's even less people.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Dave
There's like 200 people in my village.
Ed Sheeran
In his village now.
Dave
Yeah.
Kristen
200 people. One grocery store.
Dave
One no grocery store.
Kristen
So just no eating.
Dave
No, I mean, we do go to a grocery store in the town.
Ed Sheeran
But you have to imagine.
Kristen
I can't even imagine a town of.
Dave
There's no Uber Eats, there's no Uber, there's no postmates, nothing but everything.
Kristen
Amazon delivery.
Dave
But it would take, like, two, three days. Like, it wouldn't be, like, same day.
Ed Sheeran
But you also have to understand, like, in his town, there's also, like, somehow, like, everyone has the best taste in style. There'll be, like, bread that's, like, dressed up. No, no, no. They just like. Like some person's been making bread for, like, 100 years and it's the best sourdough you've had. There's like, somebody who.
Dave
This is true. Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Who makes, like, smoked salmon. And every person has the best styled home you've ever been. Like, they're like. The architecture is insane.
Dave
I will say, because we haven't. We haven't really got, like, big chain business there. So it is all like, mom and pop.
Ed Sheeran
It's amazing.
Dave
Everything in the market square is all, like, family owned and family run.
Kristen
That sounds like a dream.
Lil Dicky
A real community.
Ed Sheeran
It's incredible.
Kristen
Let's move.
Ed Sheeran
And then, like, every time he just moved, every time I used to come to his house, there'd be, like, a new thing. Like, when I first came there, he was like, this house is older than America. And then. Well, really, he was like, this house is older than America. And then.
Dave
I mean, it is.
Ed Sheeran
And then.
Dave
Older than the.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then, you know, so then I come back the next time and he's like, I have an underground movie theater. And it was, like, so cool because he kept building on this, like, property he had. Then the next time I came back and he had his favorite pub was just there. And then I came back again and he had a full lake. And then he had, like, a farm with, like, wildlife. And it was.
Dave
So I built a chapel. Now it's got A full church there.
Ed Sheeran
Like the city's gonna die.
Dave
Yeah, I wouldn't say it's like. I wouldn't say it's acreage in the same way that Americans have acreage.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. But I'd say yours is like five acres. I'm four acres.
Dave
No, it's about 39, I think.
Ed Sheeran
Oh, it's 39.
Kristen
I was gonna say you have a lot going on there.
Dave
You have to have somewhere. Well, we planted about 18,000 trees.
Ed Sheeran
Oh, my God.
Dave
So it's just a big forest now.
Ed Sheeran
Wait, this is my favorite part. I was there when he first planted the trees. Chuck. And the trees didn't come just like, full of trees. Chuck, you were walking, like, miles and the trees were this big.
Dave
No, but they're fully grown now. They're huge.
Ed Sheeran
I know, but it was 2013.
Dave
I planted them. So it used to be just like a ploughed field with nothing in it. And then I got the field, and then it's now like very, very rich and diverse with we have snakes and shit live there.
Kristen
Now it feels like more of like a forest. Like a middle.
Dave
Totally a forest.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Dave
And we get, like monk jacks, which are like mini deer. And then we get deer in the garden and badgers because we have infra security and we can see if people break in. We also see all the mad wildlife at night.
Lil Dicky
When you look at your trees, do you feel way more satisfaction than you ever would looking at any other tree?
Dave
Yeah, I mean, everything. I mean, that house and property, everything on it is pretty much apart from the actual cottage that's from the 1600s. Everything on it is your creation. Yeah. And we've got a big vegetable garden where we grow all the veg.
Kristen
Don't you worry about the trees getting, like. How do you make.
Ed Sheeran
Because a lot of initiatives, you just say you're sassing.
Kristen
No, I'm not gonna say the SAP thing, but maybe he would relate to the SAP thing. Just because you guys don't understand SAP.
Dave
At my house, I feel like to have a purely organic gaff and garden, you just kind of gotta let it be.
Kristen
But so you don't have disease. Cause, like, in my environment.
Dave
Yeah, I mean, we do, but if they die, they die. And that's like.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. You know, when the trees get.
Dave
No, you don't.
Kristen
No, you don't. Sometimes you don't.
Lil Dicky
Unless you're like an arborist. I don't know, maybe you guys don't.
Kristen
Trees get, like, diseases that just completely take out an entire.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. You know, there's like there's definitely like. And you can tell.
Lil Dicky
You think you can eyeball a dying tree?
Ed Sheeran
I eyeballed the two dying trees on my property.
Lil Dicky
Well, they're probably so obvious.
Kristen
Maybe he's an arborist.
Ed Sheeran
Well, no, it's not. It's. I think it's easier to tell when a tree's dying than not.
Kristen
Well, what I was getting wrong was it was not in season.
Dave
What's with this fucking creepy baby?
Ed Sheeran
Oh. Oh, Jeff.
Lil Dicky
You know, I don't know. I don't like to talk about its creepiness because I understand what you're saying. Don't touch it. Start. Please don't.
Dave
We got our youngest daughter a doll, and it was, like, so creepy that we kept calling it Creepy Baby. And then she thought its name was Creepy Baby, so she'd be like, looking at a creepy baby.
Lil Dicky
Aww.
Ed Sheeran
Really?
Lil Dicky
That's sweet.
Kristen
Do you have.
Dave
How many girls got two daughters? They are so fun. I mean, it's up and down when they're tantruming. It's real.
Kristen
Are they close in age?
Dave
Yeah, super close in age. Like, so much so that they are just best mates, locked in. They do everything together.
Kristen
That was my. That's a dream. Do you want a son close in age?
Lil Dicky
Do you want a son deep down? Don't care. Not thinking about it.
Dave
You know what? I don't know. I don't know. I think maybe I'd want another girl. I think. I don't know.
Lil Dicky
Is there a huge difference in one kid versus two kids? Like, is it a total paradigm shift?
Dave
Yeah, but I think if you have them close together, I mean, I'm just going based on my experience, but having them close together was, like, really chaotic to begin with. And then it's like, so good because they just play together, bath together, and sleep together and school together, and everything's like, locked in.
Lil Dicky
I think that's a good. I like that logic for our future.
Kristen
Me too. I just wish I was a tiny bit younger. It's hard. It seems so hard to do the whole. It does seem hard just back to back together.
Lil Dicky
So zero to one child was that.
Dave
That was. Yeah, but we did that in Covid, so it was. That was like. That was all we did.
Kristen
Did you have both of them during COVID No, no.
Dave
The second one, we had Covid Aftermath one week into my tour starting. So that was like an interesting.
Kristen
One week into your tour starts. Did they all go with you or no?
Dave
Yeah.
Kristen
Oh, they did.
Dave
Yeah. Yeah. But it was in Europe, so it was more saying to Benny, we do Europe on trains. So it was like a bit easier.
Ed Sheeran
His wife doesn't like flying anymore, like me.
Kristen
Oh, really?
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. Do you know I made him take a boat across.
Kristen
I've heard this. I've heard that you guys, like took like a cruise ship. Did you get like a. Like a suite or were you guys just.
Dave
We had a suite. We watched Titanic together on the boat.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, we cuddled. It wasn't even like. No, it was like, barely. We had like a. Almost like a normal room.
Dave
It was cool. It was cool.
Ed Sheeran
I've done it like that.
Kristen
But would you guys just go and get like lunch and dinner and everything?
Dave
Yeah, I ate the same thing every single day. Do you remember? I just had fajitas, lunch and dinner. Every day. Every day. No, we. What I loved about it is like, midway through the trip, they like send out on the tannoy, they're like, right, everyone come to the top deck. We're about to see the place where the Titanic sunk and we're like, oh, cool. And then we go up there and then it's just everyone just taking pictures of the sea. Just water and just water.
Ed Sheeran
I have a question. Do your kids know you're Ed Sheeran yet?
Dave
Yeah, my eldest does, but that's because she started school.
Lil Dicky
Has she heard your music and does she like it?
Dave
Yeah, I mean, she comes to the shows. She. Yeah, she comes to the shows. She likes my.
Lil Dicky
Yeah, she likes her music.
Ed Sheeran
But does she understand, like, when she comes to the shows and she sees you singing?
Dave
No, she doesn't. She doesn't clock it like that when she was in school and like these like, older kids who were like 11 and 12 were like giving her, like, notes to give to me at home. Which she's like four or. She was four at the time. It was a bit like much. Yeah, yeah.
Kristen
How do you explain it?
Ed Sheeran
What did the notes say?
Lil Dicky
We love you.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, we love you.
Dave
Yeah, but still, like, you know, it's.
Kristen
Was she confused? Was she like, hears from some.
Dave
Yeah.
Lil Dicky
Kids show us the power of fame. It's got 11 year olds going up to 4 year olds and being like, please.
Kristen
But it's a hard thing to explain, I imagine.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, like, what do you, like, what
Kristen
are you gonna tell your kids?
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, well, I'm so scared of this whole thing because to me I'm like,
Dave
you should be telling me also the amount of shit that's on the Internet about you, they're gonna find it all.
Ed Sheeran
No, I'm scared because it's like, I went to a public school. I Did all these things and I just don't even know what you're supposed to do.
Dave
What I say to them is I try and normalize it as much as possible of everyone has a job, and this is my job. And I don't really work in the week, I work at weekends. So if I'm away, I'm doing those gigs. But that means that I get to be at home in the week and spend time with you and blah, blah, blah, blah. I would say that, like, no one's like, everyone in the world has jobs and my job is just a job. And it.
Ed Sheeran
That can only work for so long. She's four. One day she's gonna be like, your job is way better than this other person's job.
Kristen
Yeah, but it might be more normalized because she's like, growing up with it.
Dave
And still I talk a lot to musicians that I really love and admire. Like, I talk a lot to them and their kids about it and, like, trying to, like, understand where parts went wrong and where parts went right.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Like, what happens? Like, so, like, has she seen you? Like, does she understand when you meet a fan? Does she know what that is?
Dave
Yeah. Yeah. Because I usually will, like, if I'm with them. I always say no to pictures. Cause one time really, really, really early on, I was with Lai and we were out somewhere and someone asked for a selfie. And as I was taking it, she fell over and I was just like, I'm like, I'm not doing. I'm not being a dad here. So now it's just a blanket. No to anyone. But I'll explain.
Ed Sheeran
It makes sense.
Dave
Yeah, I'll explain to them. I'm like, I'm just being a dad today. Like, I'm not. I don't want to. And people usually get it. Sometimes people can be, like, quite rude, though. But she's good.
Lil Dicky
Excuse me?
Dave
Well, yeah, I mean, but. But it's true. It's far more important that I'm being a dad to my daughter than me being a pop star to anyone else. But I think that the. Yeah, so she sees me say, she now says no photos to people, though. So, like, someone comes up, she'll say it, like, instantly.
Ed Sheeran
That's crazy. It's such.
Kristen
Is she aware of, like, people looking at you? Like, when is she become, like, Is she self aware now that people are then looking at her?
Dave
No, because we don't really. We don't really go out like that. We don't really go out in spaces where that could be a thing. A Thing. Yeah. And I think because where we live, where we grew up, it's the same area. My wife grew up as well. And all of our schoolmates live there, all of our family lives there. So if we go out to a pub nearby, we know everyone. And actually, if there's anyone in there that does act weird because there's such a protective force field around it, like, people will kind of stick up for us without us even needing to do anything.
Lil Dicky
That's so sweet.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. That's why he. That's why he lived there. I remember when he was living in London and he was just like, I gotta go. Like, I gotta go back to my roots.
Kristen
How old were you when you got big?
Dave
19 was when it went, like, stratospheric. But I was sort of, like, doing stuff at British.
Ed Sheeran
Everything sounds so important. When you said you could say anything,
Kristen
I'd be like, yeah, stratospheric. Yeah, totally.
Ed Sheeran
So when it went straight.
Lil Dicky
19 is so young for. I mean, I guess you could be younger, but not barely. Like, that's young.
Dave
Yeah. It's a weird one because I do look back on it and there are certain things that I didn't experience, but also, like, it's all I ever wanted to do. So, like, could I have deferred everything and done all the experience things till I was 22 and then done it? And would that have, like, been better? And I don't think it would have
Lil Dicky
done, like, what experience popping in your head? University.
Dave
I mean, that maybe. Yeah. I mean, but not universities in studying, but the experience of being at university with other kids.
Lil Dicky
See how I said that?
Dave
Not college, but, you know, learning how to. Learning how to cook and look after yourself and all this stuff. Or like, cheap backpacking, you know, staying in hostels with fucking whoever and going to Thailand and doing all.
Kristen
I haven't done that.
Lil Dicky
You don't want to do that.
Dave
No. Yeah. So maybe. But this thing. I don't cheat back. I don't mourn for any of that. The stuff I mourn for is, like, the normality stuff with my kids and, like, you know, like, suddenly being my daughter can be taken to the zoo by her godfather, but not me. And that. That's where I'm like. Yeah, that's where I get sad. It's not so much my childhood stuff, because it's. Whatever. I had a great time from 17 to 25 or whatever. I feel like we still. I mean, we basically were like college kids.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Lil Dicky
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt like you were the most normal person, obviously. We're from different places, but there was like. It felt like.
Ed Sheeran
Well, we were all so young and like, Ed's like. I feel like me and Ed share the same thing where it's like, there's a lot of guys that get like, big. That like, you're like, oh, yeah. Like, that person should be like. So, like, you see like someone, they're like, doing the cool. Like, I feel like both, especially me, I don't like, I'm like the guy. I like, give. You're the same way. You, like, give. Like the normal guy. Hope, like, it's like we like you too. No, we do.
Dave
Me too.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. Yeah, you are too.
Kristen
Just a bunch of normal dudes.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, we're like, we're like. Like there's some guys who are, like, so hot and can, like, do all this stuff and we're like, we, like, shouldn't have been.
Kristen
Who are you thinking about?
Ed Sheeran
I don't know, like, like, you know what I mean?
Dave
Like, there's definitely the popular kid in school who's super, super attractive, like Jacob Elordi or something.
Kristen
But they say those kids.
Ed Sheeran
Or like Chris Brown or like, there's so many guys who can, like, do like, crazy stuff.
Kristen
Benson Boon. A backflip.
Ed Sheeran
Benson Boon, I think is. I think Benson Boone is like, straddling, like.
Dave
Yeah, he's cool. He's got a little bit of no move.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, he's like.
Kristen
He could do backflips.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. But he's like, funny looking. But he's like, hot funny looking.
Lil Dicky
Yeah. I think he's almost hotter than funny looking.
Kristen
It's like I would say.
Lil Dicky
Yeah, his outfit is so, like, designed to show up.
Ed Sheeran
I think his body screams like, hot guy and his face is like, oh, you can be one of the normal. Like, he has like a. Like.
Lil Dicky
I think he's right.
Ed Sheeran
Hey, Benson, you agree?
Kristen
I think he's considered.
Ed Sheeran
You know, this is the type of stuff we talk about.
Dave
I love it. This is such a lovely podcast.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, Benson's got it.
Lil Dicky
It's not a podcast. I think at the end of the day, all we have to do.
Ed Sheeran
Go. Welcome to the ads, guys. We're talking White claw.
Kristen
I thought it was a group thing because I want to talk about this one too.
Ed Sheeran
Okay. You talk about which one you like. Me? I'm stuck between peach and watermelon. Do want to say something? Has anybody ever combined like a half of one and a half of another? I think I'm going to. Will I be the first man ever to drink peach watermelon?
Kristen
Have a Pack of fruit punch.
Ed Sheeran
I don't know if it's as exciting for you as it is for me,
Kristen
but I'm excited for experience it.
Lil Dicky
Please drink responsibly. Hard seltzer with flavors. White ball seltzer. Work. Chicago, Illinois. That's what you want.
Ed Sheeran
All right, guys, get a room. Papa broth. Domino's.
Dave
Wow, that must be heavy.
Kristen
What do you got here?
Ed Sheeran
Heaviest thing in the world. I've been working out so much.
Lil Dicky
Oh, wow.
Kristen
Do we each get a few.
Ed Sheeran
No, these are for me.
Lil Dicky
We each get four. Pie?
Ed Sheeran
No, these are for me. What do you.
Lil Dicky
Done the math? 1, 2.
Ed Sheeran
Don't. Don't touch my pie.
Lil Dicky
7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13.
Kristen
Can we share some of those pies?
Ed Sheeran
Tell me what your favorite pie is.
Kristen
Thin crust with pineapple. Do you have that?
Ed Sheeran
You bet your bottom dollar I do.
Kristen
Chuck, what's yours?
Dave
I'm a plain cheese.
Kristen
Ooh. I also want some of that, though. And I also might want some.
Lil Dicky
For a limited time. You can get any pizza with any toppings for just $9.99 at Domino's.
Ed Sheeran
Wait, I didn't say my pizza. That was the end of the ad. I guess they'll have to know on the next time.
Kristen
Do you always fly private?
Dave
No.
Ed Sheeran
Wait, why did you. Why did you.
Dave
No, I don't. I don't.
Kristen
How do you get on the plane?
Dave
It's British Airways, you know, just put a fucking hoodie up. If someone said to you, I'm gonna give you 150 grand to, like, sit in an airport lounge and maybe take two photos, you'd be like, okay.
Lil Dicky
He's saying that's the difference in the.
Kristen
That's how much it cost to fly private.
Lil Dicky
Kind of. Yeah, I agree with you completely. And they have a higher chance of crash.
Dave
I. Sometimes. There'll sometimes be pictures online that will come up of me, like, sleeping on a plane, that someone next to me is, like, taking an upload. It's a bit weird.
Lil Dicky
Violation.
Ed Sheeran
Do you have anxiety?
Dave
Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
What type?
Dave
I have it. Cherry. Works a lot on me because I have it in public spaces mostly, I think, because of who you are. Yeah. So she's always, like, pushing me to do things that I usually wouldn't do. And I think actually having kids has really helped me go out. When we were making divide, and then even after divide, I just never went out. I just was, like, always inside. And if I went out, it would be like, I'd shut the restaurant down and I'd go with my friends, and it'd be very like, curated. And then I think having kids, I was like, I have to give them some level of normality. Even if there's like, bits of it that aren't normal for me, that I have to give them some level of normality. And I think Covid helped because wearing face masks or ski masks or like some, you know, like a scarf or whatever, like, that's not frowned upon now. So I can still go out and do things and I'm like, hat.
Ed Sheeran
And it doesn't really help. It looks like, like a. Like colors exploded on your body.
Dave
No, but I like. So my. My months that I do it are like the autumn and fall months and winter. So I can like, really, like, wrap up summer. It's a. It's a wrap.
Kristen
When I ate the edible in Hawaii, and I was experiencing a little moment of paranoia and I thought everyone was looking at me. It turns out they were really. Well, they were looking at you, but for some reason I just thought they were looking at me and I would be like, I gotta get out of here. We can't be. We can't be anywhere. And I wonder if it's that feeling.
Dave
The thing is with it, with the public, is everyone will see the benefits of success and fame and blah, blah, blah. So it's a. It's about the way that I describe it with my friends is I have struggles in my life that they don't have, and they have struggles in their life that I don't have. And as long as we recognize that all of us have shit that we're struggling with, then it's fine.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Dave
Because I think a lot of the time people will just be like, ah, you're fine, because this, this, this and this. But they wouldn't take into account the other things. And I think that you just always have to, like, go through life being kind to people without. Because everyone's got something in their life that they're struggling with. So just recognize that.
Kristen
Yeah, that's why I don't honk at cars.
Unidentified Singer
Oh, man.
Kristen
I'm not a honker.
Dave
I say, fucking hell. I. Mate, I don't think I've ever honked cars.
Ed Sheeran
Me and Dave just were talking.
Lil Dicky
Oh, get a paper towel.
Kristen
I'm sorry. I killed it.
Dave
What is it crushed?
Lil Dicky
It's just a fly.
Kristen
No, I think it's a mosquito.
Ed Sheeran
I don't like that.
Lil Dicky
Well, it was bothering me.
Kristen
It was a mosquito.
Ed Sheeran
Me and I don't like that. Me and mosquitoes. I don't kill anything.
Kristen
Sorry.
Lil Dicky
It's all good.
Dave
Part from sick Beats, eh?
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. You know, me and Dave just realized that neither one of us have ever honked.
Kristen
Well, that makes sense.
Dave
I honk by accident, like, sometimes. Like, if I'm driving.
Ed Sheeran
You're also a bad driver, just like we are.
Dave
I'm not that bad.
Ed Sheeran
No, you're not that bad. But I think, like, if there's a scale of, like, good and bad, you're more on the back.
Dave
I drove you just after I'd passed my test.
Ed Sheeran
You're definitely. If there's, like, good and bad, you're definitely, like, not on the good side, but you might not be, like, terrible.
Kristen
You used to drive us around. You didn't even have a license.
Lil Dicky
Oh, God. It's fucking brown.
Ed Sheeran
What?
Lil Dicky
Look at the remains of the thing.
Kristen
It's probably brown.
Ed Sheeran
All right.
Lil Dicky
It's just brown.
Ed Sheeran
Hey, what was.
Dave
I would be fascinated to be a fly on the wall of your life.
Ed Sheeran
No, you wouldn't, because you'd be dead like that.
Lil Dicky
Not my life.
Dave
Just like.
Ed Sheeran
I know they don't know how to.
Dave
My reaction to that was just like,
Ed Sheeran
they don't know how to do very normal.
Lil Dicky
What are you guys talking? This is a reasonable reaction.
Kristen
The thing is that he says that he has fun, this narrative.
Ed Sheeran
Do you cook?
Kristen
Yeah, I made curry.
Lil Dicky
No, she doesn't.
Ed Sheeran
You made curry. For the first time, she made curry. She does not cook.
Kristen
I can make a soup. And I'm sorry. And I can make new ones.
Ed Sheeran
Nope, you don't make curry. And you don't 69. We know that.
Dave
You guys talk about that shit on here?
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, sometimes.
Kristen
There seems to be a disconnect between Dave and I about what we do and what we do.
Lil Dicky
We have 69 once or twice the other day, she was talking. She was like, oh, yeah, we 69. And I said, no, we don't. And then we did it once or twice. I don't even want a 69. I don't like 69.
Kristen
We don't need to keep.
Lil Dicky
I don't like 69. Next time we do it, though, we should try it standing.
Kristen
He doesn't have a handstand.
Ed Sheeran
Check. You can't do standing. Your back.
Lil Dicky
She'll do a handstand. I can hold her legs.
Ed Sheeran
Chuck, you can't do that. You don't have enough.
Kristen
We are learning new things about each other every day.
Ed Sheeran
What was the best day of your life?
Dave
Uh, my wedding day.
Ed Sheeran
Really? I was there.
Dave
Yeah.
Kristen
When did you get married?
Dave
2019.
Ed Sheeran
What's the worst day of your life?
Dave
Day that Cherry rung me up and said, she had cancer. That was probably like the worst day. Oh, yeah. That was like probably the worst week. Cause Jamal died that week.
Ed Sheeran
Oh, my God.
Dave
And then we went straight into a court case.
Ed Sheeran
Oh, and you had the court case? Yeah, check.
Dave
Oh, and then Shane died, first of the court case.
Ed Sheeran
Oh, yeah.
Kristen
How's your wife doing now?
Dave
She's fine. I mean, she had the operation. This was like she was pregnant at the time. That was why it was difficult.
Kristen
Oh, man.
Dave
She had the operation to remove the tumor after she'd given birth to our second child. And thankfully, touch wood, totally fine. But just, you know, like, I think it's. Yeah, it was fucking scary.
Kristen
That's. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a heavy week.
Lil Dicky
I can't imagine it gets heavier.
Dave
Well, I mean, being in the court case, though, which every. Like, everything was building to that for like eight years. And then suddenly when you're in the courtroom, it didn't really matter. So I built it up in my mind. And then because of all of those actual heavy life things happened, as soon as I was in the courtroom, I was like, I don't actually care about the outcome of this because it's like,
Kristen
is it a court case?
Dave
So small compared to what was the talk of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I won. So, yeah, it was for. It was for shape of you. And I did another cork. So I basically. I got. In the music industry, you get people that, like, make claims and most people settle behind the scenes and they'll, you know, be 10 grand here, 100 grand here. And I'd done it once, done settling once. But then it just kept coming. And I was like, this is fucking ridiculous. Like, I haven't done anything wrong. So there was one big one in America and one big one in the uk And I just said, I'm gonna do both of those cases and I'm gonna take it to court. And it's a big deal. It's like eight years and lawyers every day.
Kristen
What is it?
Dave
It's like a copyright infringement old song
Lil Dicky
sounded that they said like his.
Unidentified Singer
Oh, yeah.
Dave
And then. But I thought if I made a stand both sides of the Atlantic, then it would just stop. And it did. Cause it's like. Cause people do it. People claim because they know that you're not gonna wanna go to court. Cause it costs probably 30 times the amount that you'd be settling for. And, you know, eight years leading up to it. And then it's a month in court and court's really intense and it's all in the press and it's like the worst kind of headlines of Ed Sheeran. Steal songs and blah, blah. Cause that stuff never goes away. So I think people bank on you just settling and being like, yeah, yeah. And so I took both to court and. Yeah. Won both of them. And now it's.
Kristen
It's not happening anymore.
Dave
Yeah. But it's also not happening for other people, which is good. Like, Dua Lipper had a big case that has been thrown out because of the case that we did. They used the evidence that was in my case for her case.
Lil Dicky
So that must feel so satisfying.
Ed Sheeran
Chuck, what's your ideal headline?
Lil Dicky
My ideal headline?
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, like your ideal headline.
Kristen
Little Dickies back.
Dave
The little Dicky movie grosses a billion dollars at the International House. No.
Ed Sheeran
So it's gotta be realistic.
Lil Dicky
Ideal headline.
Ed Sheeran
Sorry, that's not realistic.
Lil Dicky
Oh, it's gotta be realistic. Yeah. Okay.
Ed Sheeran
Ideal realistic headline.
Lil Dicky
Okay.
Ed Sheeran
Not that your movie grosses a billion dollars.
Dave
Oh, wins album of the year at the Grammys or something.
Lil Dicky
No, I think it's more something like. And it's just a headline or is there a sub headline or is this just the main one?
Ed Sheeran
Let me hear, let me hear. Like how Bird got his mojo back.
Lil Dicky
No, I would say something like,
Ed Sheeran
whether
Lil Dicky
he's Lil Dicky or Dave Bird,
Dave
all
Lil Dicky
he wanted was unilateral respect. And now he has it. No, that's a bad. I think it's more like.
Ed Sheeran
Try again.
Lil Dicky
He wanted unilateral respect. Guess what? Question mark? He's got it.
Ed Sheeran
What do you think your best headline would be? Like, your ideal headline?
Dave
Oh, it just depends. I don't know. Career wise or. I don't know.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, it could be like Ed Sheeran, great dad,
Dave
probably. No, because then no one really knows that unless you're in the. Yeah, you gotta be like. That's the thing. There are so many people that live an online Persona that people think that they're great parents because of what they post online. But even that in itself I find weird that you would post that sort of stuff.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, like Ed Sheeran. Great album.
Lil Dicky
Great album.
Ed Sheeran
Great.
Lil Dicky
Greater dad.
Ed Sheeran
Greater dad. Pretty good at sex. For what? For the lack of penis he was given.
Dave
Yeah, I don't know, maybe something if. Maybe. Maybe something in something non musical.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Dave
I think if I'd ever like. I really, really want to self fund a low budget horror film. Like a really fucking. Like not even be in it, but just make a really fucked up, low budget great idea horror film.
Ed Sheeran
The best horror film of the year. Can't believe Ed Sheeran funded It.
Dave
There you go.
Ed Sheeran
Spot on.
Kristen
Famous one that was like.
Ed Sheeran
Never mind.
Lil Dicky
Famous.
Dave
What?
Kristen
There's like a low budget movie that's.
Dave
Oh, Paranormal Activity. And then it follows Blair Witch Project. Yeah.
Kristen
And Blair Witch.
Dave
Yeah.
Kristen
And then there was one right before that that was like from the 70s get out. And it was like really psycho gory.
Ed Sheeran
What do you think, Mochi? What do you think your headline would be? Best headline that could ever happen for you.
Lil Dicky
Oh, yeah.
Kristen
Like an article girl is sorry.
Lil Dicky
Girl. Girl.
Dave
Yeah.
Kristen
Kristen Vetaluco. So intelligent.
Lil Dicky
Nice.
Kristen
What? The wisdom. The wisdom she spews.
Lil Dicky
What about whether we believe it or not, whether we realize it or not, we're living in Ed Sheeran's century.
Dave
In Ed Sheeran's battle. I had a lot of. There was a lot of articles like that around divide time saying that we were living in my alternate reality. Which.
Kristen
What does that even mean?
Dave
As in so many things were going right for me at that time that people thought that they were living in an alternate reality that I had created.
Ed Sheeran
But in your alternative reality, wouldn't you have like maybe like different color hair or something?
Dave
No.
Lil Dicky
It's so key to everything.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, I guess it is.
Dave
I think it is key.
Ed Sheeran
I guess it is so key, Mochi. Maybe yours would be like.
Lil Dicky
Yeah, it's the first blank headline.
Dave
Yeah.
Kristen
I don't really. I'm not looking for that.
Lil Dicky
That would be cool if you didn't even need a headline. We all just knew what it meant.
Kristen
I don't need any of that.
Dave
We spoke ages ago about you doing stand up. Are you.
Lil Dicky
I've never done it.
Dave
No.
Lil Dicky
Well, I always wanted to do. When I think of the things I want to do, I think stand up at some point in my career. Yeah. But I feel like it's is way later than like making movies perhaps. You know, I like that.
Dave
What's the first. Like, are you doing an extension of the TV show as a movie or doing something completely different?
Lil Dicky
Something completely different.
Dave
Cool.
Kristen
But if you're interested in funding movies.
Lil Dicky
Yeah. If you want to fund, you know what.
Dave
So I was talking to Judd Apatow about this.
Kristen
Oh, wow.
Dave
And I said, where have the. You know the caliber of movies that he did? They were like, yes.
Kristen
Yeah.
Dave
And I was like, where have they gone? There are no movies really coming out anymore. I guess Good Boys was kind of like that. But there's no movies coming out of
Lil Dicky
like R rated comedies that are great. Yeah.
Dave
And what he said is like, because of streaming and no backend, now that a $30 million movie like Knocked up or whatever would then make $100 million on DVD sales. But because that doesn't exist anymore, that you can't justify it. So it's either low budget or Marvel. And so I think you need to bring back.
Ed Sheeran
Well, if you have 2 minutes and 45 seconds, Dave could give you a killer pitch and you could come in with one of the other guys.
Lil Dicky
I can mor exactly what I'm going through. I don't even know if I'll air any of this, but I really am kind of in the midst of this entire thing right now of funding a movie.
Dave
I basically wrote a movie.
Kristen
It's a horror rated comedy.
Lil Dicky
I wrote a movie. I've been asked, let me in, brother. I've been asking these questions, but I'm learning all about the grim realities of today and streaming. Like if you think music is different because of streaming and Spotify and what have you, like, comedy is. People aren't going to theaters.
Dave
And when they go, they go when it matters.
Lil Dicky
I know.
Dave
And if you make a movie that matters, it will work. And the reason it will work is cause there's a massive void in movies. And I think that it slowed down. This is my theory. I fucking love movies. It slowed down over time because of quality, quality control. And it was just pumping out, pumping out, pumping out, pumping out. And then people stopped watching those movies because they just weren't good.
Lil Dicky
Look, obviously I love movies. Obviously, I would love to be like the force that brings it back. I also cannot stand when people, like, every person's TV is on the wrong mode, you know what I mean? Where like they don't even fix the. And you're watching it and it's like, so. So they don't even have the right setting on their tv.
Dave
Seems like a logical thing to worry about.
Lil Dicky
Yeah, no, they.
Ed Sheeran
No, it is true. I was killed.
Lil Dicky
And the other thing about going to the movies is you can't even lift up your phone. Like you have to. You're forced to watch. Now, there's no.
Dave
But that's my point. That's why people watch movies when they're in the theater. Yes, you're right. And why, if you guys are making this movie, why do you need to spend 30 on it? Could you make it?
Kristen
You don't. It's not even that. It's for more.
Ed Sheeran
Guys, I gotta be honest with you. I haven't pooped in like three days. And this strawberry vanilla with nine grams of fiber, it helps keep me regular. I don't like to talk about this stuff in Front of Ed. He doesn't like my potty humor. But I'm telling you, after like four more sips of this, it's gonna be Niagara Falls in the bathroom. Stay tuned, guys.
Kristen
I feel like for you it's just weighing the strategy of his first movie and what makes the most sense and what will allow him to have the freedom to make all the other movies
Lil Dicky
products do the same.
Dave
If it's an event, I promise you, if you eventize it and it matters and people care, they will go to the cinema.
Lil Dicky
If this movie became the next Superbad, for example, which I totally believe it can, it would be a true anomaly, one of one situation. For intim, which is so different post Covid for comedies and theaters. It would be a one of one situation. Like the only comedies that do well are IP like Barbie, like things that are sequelized or whatnot. Or like something like Elf or like that's like a Christmas movie or something. That's like a rom com or an action comedy. But like when it's just a straight up comedy, like coming of age comedy, it's hard for it to succeed. But I don't really believe in precedent. I believe in being a precedent shatterer.
Ed Sheeran
So what's the stupidest thing you ever bought in your whole life?
Lil Dicky
Do you ever. Just recklessly.
Dave
It doesn't even have to be expensive. Spend a lot of money on movie props that like movie like memorabilia? Yeah. I think's really cool, but I think in some aspects it might be.
Kristen
Wait, tell us something that you have.
Dave
Oh, I just bought the Edward Scissorhands hens.
Ed Sheeran
You did?
Dave
Yeah.
Lil Dicky
I fucking love this.
Ed Sheeran
No way. Let me see a picture right now. There's nothing cool. That's the coolest thing I've ever.
Lil Dicky
Memorabilia is so cute.
Ed Sheeran
Can I buy them off you? Where do you.
Kristen
Do you have like a room in your house that has it all?
Dave
I sort of like dot them about places.
Ed Sheeran
Edwin, you couldn't have hit something that I care about.
Lil Dicky
I say memorabilia.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, but Chuck, this is like a. This is memorabilia. This is Chuck. That's the coolest thing.
Dave
And then that's Dr. Evil's suit there, which I think is cool.
Ed Sheeran
You bought it.
Dave
Yeah.
Lil Dicky
I respect this.
Ed Sheeran
What else did you buy?
Dave
Sports Rufio's sword and pan's costume from Hook and Hook's hook and hat.
Lil Dicky
I love hook.
Ed Sheeran
I don't care about that.
Dave
Batman's costume and Robin's costume from Batman and Robin, which no one wants because it don't care. Like the first C3PO.
Ed Sheeran
You're losing me.
Lil Dicky
Why does no one want it? Because of the Dark Knight. Success.
Dave
That Batman and Robin. The George Clooney one wasn't the Chris Connolly. I loved it. I was a six in the movie.
Ed Sheeran
Those three suck. Tell me some other.
Dave
I love the teddy bear from artificial Intelligence.
Ed Sheeran
I don't even know.
Dave
Have you seen that? Great movie.
Ed Sheeran
Keep going. Yeah, I was getting excited.
Kristen
Gladiator costume you like More sports. Superhero sports.
Ed Sheeran
Those don't excite me.
Dave
The first two I got the knife that Joe Pesci stabs the guy in the trunk of Goodfellas. You know, the beginning.
Kristen
That's cool. That's cool.
Ed Sheeran
Okay, Okay.
Lil Dicky
I have a question.
Ed Sheeran
How do you even find the. Where do you go?
Dave
There's a thing called prop store. And I just go on prop store a lot.
Kristen
You know, I used to work in the props department of TV shows. I have a few things if you would, like always. Did you ever watch Silicon Valley?
Dave
Do you know what? If you've got anything from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I'm in.
Kristen
Fortunately, I was too young.
Ed Sheeran
Prop store.
Lil Dicky
Would you ever be interested in this type of memorabilia? Like the gun that killed Abraham Lincoln?
Ed Sheeran
No.
Dave
I think all of that stuff's pretty dark. If there's stuff that's like, real life shit attached to it. I think if it's part of a movie that is part of my nostalgia in childhood.
Ed Sheeran
I have one real thing. So for Selina's birthday one year. So she watches Will and Grace every night before she goes to sleep. And my friend's brother made the show, so I got her, like, a painting and, like, easel that's from the actual show. And it was. Couldn't have been a better time. When I gave it to her on her birthday, I gave it to her. She was watching an episode. It was in.
Dave
It was in the episode right when
Ed Sheeran
I gave it to her. I walked in really early in the morning, and she sleeps with it all night. And I gave it to her. And as I gave it to her, I said, look on the screen. And it wasn't even planned. That was the. Cool.
Dave
That's cool.
Ed Sheeran
She tried to get the couch from friends when she was younger.
Dave
Wow.
Ed Sheeran
She lost someone. Bought it for $10 million.
Dave
Yeah. I have a. That is into collecting props as well. And they went to get Dorothy's slippers. Yeah. But they went for, like 25 mil.
Lil Dicky
What, are you just going to the same website?
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, it's right here. I'm looking right now.
Lil Dicky
I've only thought this way, like, could apply to sports I never really even thought about movies.
Dave
This website might be the end of you then.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, I'm looking at it right now.
Kristen
It probably has like a wider reaching
Lil Dicky
and it's honestly better than sports. There is something cool about like holding the bat, like big roof.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Dave
I have the James Bond's gun from GoldenEye and that's kind of. Kind of rough.
Kristen
It's a prop gun.
Ed Sheeran
I haven't really come up by any.
Dave
I mean, it doesn't work. But like, if you've ever played the Nintendo 64 game, it's like the PP7.
Lil Dicky
You must have some guitarist from some local, legendary.
Ed Sheeran
Local.
Lil Dicky
I meant legendary. Legendary handlers.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Dave
I guess I get given them every now and then by people that I love and admire. Like Eric Clapton gave me his acoustic guitar, which is like one of my prized possessions.
Kristen
Do you actually play on it or do you like, keep it locked away?
Dave
Yeah, I record it. It's a great guit. I think it's a real shame with instruments. I always write. If I sign a guitar, I'll always write, play this guitar. Because I think it's such a shame when they end up in just Perspex boxes and aren't played saying that. I have a few guitars in Perspex boxes, but they're all like fucked and broken. They're like my tour guitars. But yeah, I think that if anyone's ever given me a guitar, I'll play it a lot.
Ed Sheeran
How can you tell if this is even real, though?
Dave
It comes with an authentication thing.
Ed Sheeran
What if they made that for me?
Kristen
Lost Benny to the website.
Lil Dicky
Were you a part of the Starbucks cup thing?
Dave
What was the Starbucks cup thing?
Kristen
They accidentally left a Starbucks cup in the shot.
Lil Dicky
In one of the shots in Game of Thrones?
Dave
No. I feel like I definitely ruffled some feathers being in Game of Thrones. I think that.
Lil Dicky
I think that's bullshit. You had the right look for the vibe.
Dave
I think what I said is people love that show. If anyone gets asked to be in that show, it's an instant yes.
Lil Dicky
Yes.
Dave
I said yes. I enjoyed doing it.
Kristen
I've never seen it, but there's been other people that have been famous and in the show.
Lil Dicky
No, not like that. Not where. Took like a big cultural person who
Dave
was like, I don't know. Members of Coldplayer at the Red Wedding. Gary from Snow Patrol's in there. Are you upset? Chris Stapleton's in it as like a white walker.
Kristen
Always Sunny. Right? It wasn't one of the guys from Always Sunny.
Dave
Yeah, mate, They've got They did it a few times. I think at the time I was very omnipresent and just everywhere. So I think it was quite jarring.
Kristen
But it was fun for you?
Dave
Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Oh, did people get. Do you get shit on for that?
Dave
Yeah. Really?
Lil Dicky
I think they were more shitted on Game of Thrones for, like.
Dave
No. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
Kristen
Why is backwards, though? They put you in it.
Dave
Yeah. I feel like that happens quite a lot in my career. I'll just get shit on for things that.
Ed Sheeran
What else did you get shit on?
Dave
What else did I get shit on for?
Ed Sheeran
I like this.
Dave
You know, a lot of it was in that year was in Divideu. And I think it was. Cause I was omnipresent and just everywhere.
Ed Sheeran
Tell me what you got. Shit on edge.
Dave
Yeah. What are the amount of times you gotta shit on? Have you ever. Have you ever shit in, like, not even a public place, but outdoors, like in the woods or something?
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. Ooh, he's got a real. Chuck, why don't you explain your shit
Lil Dicky
story to add the whole story? Yeah, I guess I could.
Ed Sheeran
It's quick. You can do it quick.
Lil Dicky
Okay. So I was a, like, junior in high school, and I. My basketball team in my high school, I was not on the team. The team was one of the best teams in the state. We were, like, in, like, the state championship. The school rented buses for all to go and watch together. Like, to go arrive at the place together. I was sitting next to a girl that, like, I had a crush on. I was excited about the whole. I'm such a fan of basketball. What a great, fun, exciting night. As we're driving to this stadium where the game was, I have this feeling of having to shift that is just so beyond any version of the feeling that I've ever felt. Like, I can't even believe how fast it came and how dire it was. So I turned to the girl next to me, and she was, like, talking, and it happened. And I said, I'm so sorry, but I just. I need to focus. I'm having a little bit of stomach issues. I need to focus. And I just. Would you mind sitting somewhere else?
Dave
And you were just sweating?
Lil Dicky
Yeah. And she was like, okay. And then she gets up and sits next to her friends, who were two people in a seat. Now there's three people in the seat all of a sudden. And people are like, why are you. Why are there three people here? And she's like, I think Dave has to, like, shit or something. And then, you know, the seniors were in the back of the bus and word travels. All of a sudden, the entire bus is chanting, shit your pants. Shit your pants. And it couldn't matter less to me because I'm so locked in and hyper focused on not shitting. Because if I even give any inch, I will shit. So, like, I'm so, like, the degree at which I had to shit made everything so hyper focused that we get there. Everyone. I let everyone get off the bus first. Cause I'm not dealing with, like, people touching me, but, like, one by one on the way out, every single person would walk by me and be like, good luck, brother. Don't shit yourself. Like, they'd, like, leave a message to me. Everyone gets off the bus. I get off. I ask the bus driver, I said, do you have any paper towels or napkins? He's like, no. Okay. And then I walk. There's a line to get into the arena. And I go right up to the front of the arena to the cop at the door. I say, I'm having major, like, stomach issues. Can I just go in and use the bathroom and then come back out? And he said, the only way into this building is through the back of that. And as soon as he said that, I started sprinting and I run and I run to the shrub area, but on the way to the shrubs, I start shitting. And it's snowing. It's winter, so there's snow on the ground, and I start shitting in the snow. I get to the shrubs where I, like, assess the damage. I shit all over the outside of my jeans, and I wipe with my socks. I take some snow and I try to wipe the shit off, but it just coagulates and hardens the shit.
Dave
And also, you're miles away from home at this point.
Lil Dicky
Oh, my God. I put my jeans inside out, so the shit was. Was against my legs. And I just waited for that cycle of the line to go in. And then I just kind of casually walked to the new back of the line and I waited the entire time. And then I got into the arena. I went right to the bathroom. I got completely naked. I called my dad and I said, dad, I need you to pick me up. I just shit my pants. And it was like 9pm or like 8pm and he was like, I'm on the way. And he came with a bag of clothes, and it was like he had shit himself once. Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Did you ever vomit on stage?
Dave
I've done. Yeah, I have. Yeah. When you have, like, proper food poisoning, yeah, I vomited. Not, like, on stage, but, like, I went off to the side of stage.
Lil Dicky
Have I ever showed you pictures of what his concerts look like? It's like a thing.
Kristen
It's really impressive.
Lil Dicky
Your concerts are. The selfies that you take at the end of the concerts are so mind blowing. That to me, like, when I would be dating women, I literally like. Because they would be like, you're a rapper. And we'd talk about the music industry and, like, who the biggest artists were, and I would be like, you don't even understand. Like, Ed Sheeran is like, like the biggest. I'm like, you don't even. And then I would show pictures and it looks like. It's like. It's like it's Ooze Benekast.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. And it's like.
Lil Dicky
Looks like Woodstock.
Kristen
And it's like, exact. You did this together?
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, I've done it too.
Kristen
He went through, like, all of. He'd be like. And then look at this.
Ed Sheeran
It's the most impressive thing I've ever.
Dave
Nyburn Night 6 I do think that there is a. There is a thing. I think because it's so financially great touring the States, that when you get big in the States, people just tend to stay here. But I've always, like, whenever I've toured, if you go everywhere, you basically sow seeds everywhere in the world that you can go back to. So the first gigs I would have played would be like 100 people, and it'd be like 500 people, but everywhere. And then you build it up to a point where everywhere in the world, you're at a certain point. And I think that when we go places, a lot of the times we lose money, even if we sell out the shows just because it costs so much to get the stuff there. But you can always, like, balance it out with the other gigs. And I just. I think to be truly global, you have to be truly global.
Kristen
Chris, when you go on stage, do you ever. I've never been on stage, so in front of people or actually on any stage. But do you like. Can you even. Do you ever just fixate, like, on. Aren't you seeing, like one or two people, like, every time you like the same person every time you look out and does that not get distracting?
Dave
Depends. Really? I mean, yeah, you do sort of fixate. I fixate a lot on. What I found is my gigs have become. Cause we try and keep our tickets, like, affordable. So I really want families to come. So, like parents and kids or like grandparents and blah, blah. Like, people come as like a community rather than just. It's really Expensive and two friends go or something like that. So I love looking out and seeing like love in all its different forms. Cause they all come. People tend to come to the shows for perfect and thinking out loud and photograph and blah, blah, blah. On those moments, you just see the whole kind of crowd, like cuddle into them. It's really lovely. So I do fixate on that. Like, if you. Sometimes you'll see like an 80 year old couple in the audience and I'll know that when I go, I found a love. You just see them kind of like, it's really nice.
Lil Dicky
Have you ever experienced. I guess you probably don't because they're really paying to go. But like at a festival, for example, like, have you ever noticed an Ed Sheeran hater? And like when I'm on stage at festivals, sometimes for sure I walk out and people are just like, I can see they hate me instinctively. One time I was performing, I was on stage and I could just see through a crowd of people. One woman was like. And all I could do is look at her and like, I'm in the middle of a verse, like, so it's like. But you're like looking at her and I want to be like, why? Like, there's no. Like, I'm like, you know, this is like entertaining. Like, you know, I'm trying hard and being myself. Like, why? And I just like. But I. I can't. I wanna argue with this woman.
Dave
I don't know. I find. I think the hate for me comes from everything that isn't a show. And I think the people at a festival would be like, ah, fuck. I don't really like Ed Foggy. I'm not gonna go. But they'll kind of go out of curiosity anyway. And then I think once you're there, you're like, oh, I quite like that song. Oh yeah, I know that song. And then it. And I do think that that's kind of where. That's where coolness dissipates is like, if you're out and about, like, I'm not saying this now because Backstreet Boys are having like a fucking moment at the Sphere, but my go to song for a playlist is like, I want it that way. And I would say 15 years ago wouldn't be considered the coolest song, but for the last 15 years, anytime you put it on at any party, everyone loves it. They just would be like, oh, I don't like the Backstreet Boys, but actually you fucking do. And I think that there's a. There Is that with me? I feel like on the outside, people are like, that's quite uncool. But actually on the inside, if you have a couple of beers and you're with your friends at a festival, you want to sing to shit, you know? And I know that people know my music, so it's. I do think that there's less. I feel like when people are at shows before the show, they'd be like, ah, fuck that guy. But actually, we're in the moment. It's as long as you're playing shit that people know. If I went on stage and I just played loads of new songs, then, yeah, I reckon I'd get a few.
Ed Sheeran
Like, my favorite, Kristin, my favorite is. I was just thinking of you, like, having to, like. Like. Cause how you're like. You don't, like, like, pain. And, like, you. Like, when you get pain. Yeah, like, when you get sick. One time I was with Ed, and he was. It was his first time ever. I think it might have been his first time ever playing a stadium. I can't remember. But he was so sick. He was. And he was going. And he was like.
Dave
He was like, gillette.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, at Gillette. And he was like. And he couldn't sing. His voice was completely gone. His throat was gone. He had, like, the worst fever. They were, like, coming in and out. And I was like, oh, my God. I was like, are you, like, not gonna play the show? And he's like, I have to. And I said, what do you mean you have to? He's like, I can't. I've never missed a show unless it's something, like, out of my control. And I was like, what do you mean? How are you gonna sing? He's like, I might have to get the crowd to help. And then I was. I was like, oh, my God. And I remember Stuart, his manager, was there, and, like, Ed, like, walked out to go. They were like, what's he gonna do? How's he gonna do it? And then somehow it was, like, his best show of the tour. He was like, I found a dream, like. And he's like, singing. I was just trying to think of you doing, like, having to do it in that moment.
Kristen
I mean, I don't know, but I imagine that there has to be some, like, adrenaline that goes through your body.
Dave
100%. Yeah. Cause then after the gig, you're even more fucked than you were. Yeah.
Kristen
I feel like. I feel like, again, having not done. Not being a performer, I would have such a hard time. Cause I like highs. I'm A little bit of a high chaser. It'd be so hard to come down after a concert like that. Like, I don't know what I would have to take.
Ed Sheeran
Keep going.
Kristen
Some sort of drug.
Dave
It's massages. I, like, finish a show just. And it happened by accident. Cause I'd fucked my shoulder. So I was like, oh, I'll get like a sports massage after a gig. And after an hour and a half of that, you're like, yeah, I'm ready to go to bed.
Kristen
Cause it's so hard to turn off. I mean, you're just. You've gone through, like, such a.
Dave
It's a good, good life hack for me. It has replaced a bottle of wine. Yeah, yeah. And I'll finish it and be like, I can't drink. I'm going straight to bed.
Kristen
Yeah, you're relaxed.
Dave
Whereas before I would, like, have a bottle of wine, maybe watch a movie.
Kristen
And yeah, it's just needing to come down. And if you're playing in front of, I don't know, hundreds of. Is it hundreds of thousands?
Dave
Couple of times. It has been. It's about. It averages between like 60 and 80,000.
Kristen
And all for you.
Dave
Yeah.
Lil Dicky
And do you. And I think you're gonna say yes, but, like, you attribute your ability to have like 80,000 people in. Like, I'm just making up, like in Manila or whatever. You attribute it to your commitment to. Obviously you have big global songs, but if you didn't tour, like, I always think to myself that I don't need to tour. I can make music that ends up being big enough that whenever I show up, they're there. But I think you're saying not necessarily the case. Like, thinking out loud, whatever, maybe they'll hear it in Manila. But for them. For me to get the 60,000 people in Manila or whatever it is.
Dave
Yeah, you have to go there. Yeah, Yeah. I really do believe that. And also, like, music isn't just memories and experiences of you hearing it. I really do think that being at concerts with friends are like. Or family or whatever. Like, it creates core fucking memories and connections with that song and that artist. So then if more songs come out or other songs, like, I do think touring is really important for being connected to people.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Dave
And yeah. And also, like, not. You're right, mate. Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Just have a little bath in my.
Dave
Let's go. Yeah. Being like, there have been so many times in my career where people are like, oh, people don't tour that country. You're going to lose money going there. And that in My mind makes me want to do it more. And you go. And it is mad. Selling out a show and losing money whilst doing it. But then kind of the reward versus loss actually is cooler. Like going to play places that other people haven't played.
Lil Dicky
Why are you losing money?
Dave
Because it costs so much. Yeah, it costs money to like freight shit there and then hiring people and flying people. Hotel. We fly with like 200 people. So that's 200 hotels. 200.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. Chuck, you know, there's, you know, like. Like on his show, there's like hundreds of people.
Kristen
A hundred people.
Lil Dicky
And the problem is you won't price up the tickets.
Dave
Well, that's the other thing. I really, really want it to be a communal thing. And I do think if you start having $600 tickets, people will go to the show and people will enjoy the show. But if you're a couple, you're not gonna go, oh, we'll bring our kids to you. Oh, that'll be our special night. Whereas I think if you have $100 tickets, you can. Then you like. And that's still $400. That's still expensive.
Ed Sheeran
At his shows, sometimes you see a whole person's family tree. Like, it's so crazy. Like, you'll go to a show, you'll see the daughter knows the music, then the parents know the music, then the grandparents, then you see the great. And there's like. There's like old people just singing.
Dave
I think that's how you get longevity, though, because I think that those kids will grow up and then bring their kids.
Ed Sheeran
Do you know what else? One time, I was at his last show of his tour when he had the. He did the biggest tour of all time. He had like, the biggest tour.
Lil Dicky
He broke like, U2's record. Am I making that up?
Ed Sheeran
He broke everyone's record.
Dave
I sort of feel like when you're number one in anything, you're just waiting for someone else to break. I had the same. When Shape of youf was number one, most streamed on Spotify. You just see blinding lights creeping up and you're like, this will end very soon. But it's the same with tour. Like, my record got taken over by Elton with his tour. And then Elton's record got overtaken by Taylor with her tour.
Lil Dicky
Well, let that.
Dave
And then Coldplayer creeping up with that. So it's just. Just.
Kristen
Is right now Taylor holding the number?
Dave
Yeah. So she's highest grossing and I think Coldplay are highest attendance.
Kristen
Oh, I thought it was all like when you said biggest tour. I Thought it was.
Dave
No. So mine was grossing and attendance.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Dave
And now it's like, it's. People hold different records and different things.
Kristen
Is there one for as many cities?
Dave
Coldplay would definitely have that. I think they've definitely pushed it.
Ed Sheeran
I remember we were sitting there, last show of the tour, and I said, where are we playing? He said, where are you playing? He said, ipswich. I remember we were drinking a beer. I don't even know if you remember this. And Louis Capaldi was opening up for you. And. And Ed said. He goes, well, I guess this is it. And I said, what?
Dave
Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
And he said, I can only go down from here. And I said, what do you mean?
Dave
Very weird feeling.
Ed Sheeran
He was like, I had the biggest album, like, ever. I had, like. Like the biggest tour ever. He goes, I can't get bigger.
Lil Dicky
Yeah, but look at Elton John. He's still breaking your record. You could break your own record when you're 80.
Dave
Yeah, it's less of my drive now. I think then 2011, 2019, it was just bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger.
Ed Sheeran
I do remember a thing with you that I'll never forget that I used to tell artists all the time. He came back to play me his music when he was about to put new music out, and it was like shivers and what was the other one? Bad habits and bad habits. And he said, I'm so nervous. He's like, I just, like, don't know if anyone cares about me anymore. I don't think I have any records. And I always use it. And obviously those songs in that album were massive, massive success. But I always use it to people when I'm like, no matter who you are, you always have those moments where you have doubts and stuff. And it doesn't matter if you're the biggest person in the world, there's still that insecurity.
Dave
I still have it now. And I think you have to have different. My, like, measures of success are, like, completely different now. So I think when I was 27, my measure of success was my album is the biggest album in the world, my tour is the biggest tour in the world, and that was my measure of success. Whereas now I'm like, I get to. This sounds so cheesy and cliched, but I get to take my kids to school every day, I get to put them to bed, do all the bath time. I still get to do studio, and I still get to play stadiums every weekend. And what more do you want from that? Like, it's you. I still get to live in a peak of my career where I'm like, I can play big shows and, like, touch wood, they're, like, still selling out. I can put out music that, like, isn't the biggest in the world, but people still care about at least, Even if they're just like, that sucks. At least they're listening. But then I also get to, like, be a dad and a husband, and that hasn't, like. So I think that that is success, I think. As opposed to, like, being number one in this. Number one. Because actually, when I was number one in all of those things, I was intensely unhappy because I didn't have balance of.
Kristen
You hear that a lot. But I also think that now that you've achieved all of that, your brain starts to kind of get used to. Even if there was another ceiling, now that you have this new thing, which is your family and your kids, it's like, what more do you need?
Lil Dicky
One time I was in New York City, and I was just staying at his house, but you guys happened to have a session, and I was just so thrilled to be able to just sit in the back of the room and just watch you guys do it. And it was so fascinating.
Dave
What did we write? Can you remember?
Lil Dicky
I can't remember. I just remember the way you're just such a nat. There's like. I feel like songwriting at its core is what you do. That's what I remember thinking. The way he is writing a song is like, that is songwriting. And.
Ed Sheeran
And wait.
Lil Dicky
And then he was just chiming in everybody. You don't even need him.
Kristen
Did you guys. Right now. I'm not saying do this. This is just out of curiosity.
Lil Dicky
Like, yes, he could do anything.
Kristen
No, but I mean, you have an hour. I mean, I don't. This is probably how.
Dave
Yeah, we could do.
Ed Sheeran
We could literally. We could.
Dave
I think because we haven't written in a while, it would be super quick because it would just be.
Kristen
And you have no. You don't even know who it's for or what it is.
Ed Sheeran
No. We could do a thing. I have no idea if we even have time for this, but we could do a thing right now where, like, without using any, like, fake sounds, like, if we want to. For, like, two seconds. If me and you made, like, a beat. Wait. But we'll wait before we make a beat, and then, like, you, Kristen, you'll give us, like, a phrase, and then we'll, like, make a song over it.
Dave
I'm down.
Kristen
Really?
Dave
I got my guitar.
Kristen
It's not stressful.
Ed Sheeran
No, we'll do it this is actually fun. We haven't made music together.
Lil Dicky
Yeah. And then you get to be a producer on the. You get a producer credit.
Kristen
Oh, my gosh.
Ed Sheeran
Wow.
Kristen
I mean.
Ed Sheeran
Okay. Okay. So we're going to watch this. Take it.
Dave
Yeah.
Lil Dicky
Now.
Ed Sheeran
Now what?
Lil Dicky
Airbnb.
Ed Sheeran
Now.
Lil Dicky
Airbnb.
Ed Sheeran
What about Airbnb?
Kristen
Got any good stories?
Ed Sheeran
I think I do have a good story. I. Am I allowed to talk to you?
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Go, go, go. I booked a place on Airbnb and it was, like the most beautiful, like, Airstream overlooking all of Malibu. And it was, like, only one bathroom. I don't know. But it was. But it was so cute and quaint. And I had one of the best weekends of my life. Thanks to.
Lil Dicky
I wasn't there. I don't remember this. How could it have been one of the best weekends of your life?
Ed Sheeran
Thanks, Airbnb.
Lil Dicky
What's that? Wait, they're telling me it works.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Lil Dicky
Thank you.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. This show is sponsored by Liquid IV.
Lil Dicky
Did you know Liquid IV has 3x? That's triple the hydration. That's a typical sports drink.
Dave
I'm talking.
Ed Sheeran
Oh, do I.
Dave
Yes.
Ed Sheeran
No, I didn't know. I know now, though.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Are you a sports star?
Lil Dicky
I'm a great basketball player. I'm a great athlete in general. There's a lot of sports that I'm good at. You can just go to YouTube, Google, whatever, type in Little Dicky basketball. You'll understand why I'm uniquely qualified to be talking about this at all.
Ed Sheeran
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Lil Dicky
Need any help, boss?
Dave
I think that's it.
Kristen
Let me see if it really is impressive. I mean, obviously.
Ed Sheeran
Oh, my God. Yeah. No, no, I'm just.
Dave
So do you want to do it on the SM7?
Lil Dicky
I'm gonna pee really quick.
Ed Sheeran
No worries. Okay.
Lil Dicky
Okay.
Dave
This is great.
Kristen
So what's my role? I just have to give you a sense of.
Dave
Well, you gotta think of what we're writing a song about. Give us work.
Ed Sheeran
So, like, right. Right now, we're gonna make a beat. Okay.
Kristen
I like. I like guitari stuff.
Ed Sheeran
Chuck, what type of. Type of beat do you guys want?
Lil Dicky
Slow shape of you.
Ed Sheeran
That's not slow.
Lil Dicky
Playing the drums right there.
Ed Sheeran
I like that.
Dave
Let's do. Let's do. I think.
Ed Sheeran
I think, like.
Dave
So if you do this.
Ed Sheeran
Okay. Yeah, of course. Okay, so now what I'm gonna do 88 bpm or what I'm gonna do.
Lil Dicky
You're thinking.
Dave
Because I only met Benny always says I either I'm either not 90 BPM or 110. Yeah.
Kristen
I don't even understand the BPMS.
Lil Dicky
You thinking C D? What can you think?
Kristen
I wanna see what the touches is.
Ed Sheeran
Okay. So right now I'm making this into a beat. So I'm gonna do. Here.
Lil Dicky
I'm just gonna.
Ed Sheeran
Okay. I'm putting this all in time. Okay.
Lil Dicky
Yeah. See what he's doing? I mean, how he's looping it?
Kristen
Yeah. He's cutting it.
Lil Dicky
This is your dream. To slice and dice.
Kristen
I do like. Yeah, but I. He's. He moves so fast.
Ed Sheeran
Well, you gotta move so fast with that.
Lil Dicky
He's good at the software.
Dave
So do you want it to be like. Sound dark or light? Do you want it to be, like, lighter?
Kristen
Yeah, I think it should be like, light and like, just kind of like a.
Dave
Like, summary. Summary.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Kristen
Summary, Summary, summary. Maybe about friends.
Lil Dicky
Yeah. Friendship. Friendship.
Kristen
Yeah.
Lil Dicky
Or whatever he wants.
Kristen
Or friendship in your 30s.
Lil Dicky
Whatever you want, actually.
Kristen
Friendship in your life.
Ed Sheeran
No, like, party. Party.
Lil Dicky
No, I think friendship in your 30s is nice.
Kristen
I think just the joy of hanging out with friends.
Lil Dicky
I agree. I like what he's doing. It feels like that. I love that already.
Kristen
Like a. Tears for me.
Lil Dicky
I love it. Can we commit to that? I have goosebumps.
Kristen
I love it.
Dave
Joins for that and.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, we don't even need the headphones once.
Dave
Oh, you don't you.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, you can if you want.
Dave
You hold it up.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, yeah. I got you.
Dave
I think the first one.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Dave
And then bridge. Oh, it's so out of tune. Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. You want to redo it?
Lil Dicky
I love the.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Lil Dicky
I'm so.
Ed Sheeran
Okay.
Dave
You ready?
Lil Dicky
I'm ready to write. Let me know if you need top line. Hold on. Sorry.
Ed Sheeran
Time.
Dave
Okay. And then I'll do the bridge. Try this.
Lil Dicky
Got it.
Ed Sheeran
You want to add some?
Dave
I think the first one's good.
Ed Sheeran
Gotcha.
Kristen
The great. I want to be listening. I love it when I'm driving down the road and the sun is out and I think it's time.
Dave
I got you. I got you.
Kristen
I already have tears forming.
Unidentified Singer
I love music.
Lil Dicky
Look, me and Kristen are the ones in the room in the concert going like this.
Kristen
Yeah. I have to pee, but I don't want to miss anything. I'm, like, holding me.
Lil Dicky
Now's the time. Now's the time.
Kristen
Okay.
Dave
Okay. Give me More subjects.
Lil Dicky
Oh, now's not the time.
Kristen
Okay, so it's a summer day. Friends. You're just thinking about, like, how good it feels to be laughing and smiling with your friends.
Dave
I'll come back in.
Ed Sheeran
My love. Okay. Do you like it already?
Kristen
I love it.
Lil Dicky
I love it.
Kristen
I'm, like, in the. I like was getting tears.
Lil Dicky
I love his melody.
Ed Sheeran
We just made the beat live.
Dave
Let me do. Let me just put this first bit in. Okay, the first bit.
Ed Sheeran
And then. And then we'll all freestyle together.
Dave
I mean, yeah, just lyrically, I don't
Kristen
know that I fit into that.
Dave
You ready?
Ed Sheeran
Ready.
Unidentified Singer
Me and my friends driving around the road summertime we got the top down, here we go Live fast, we want to die slow? All we got is, is our time I love and not know.
Dave
Okay, let me do another bit. Response c. I think they're permanent.
Unidentified Singer
No.
Kristen
No.
Unidentified Singer
It's been a hard ride Me and my friends driving around the road Summertime we got the top down, here we go Live fast, We want to die slow? All we got is our time I love and I know it's been a hard ride and I Long, long time
Dave
Let me put that.
Unidentified Singer
It's been a hard ride. It's been a hard ride in a long time with the burn my paternal seats? It's been a hard ride in a long time Got to see you smile. It's been a hard ride and a long time
Dave
since we? It's been a hard ride and a long?
Unidentified Singer
It's been a hard ride and a long time since you and I
Ed Sheeran
ride
Unidentified Singer
in a long time since you and I Since you it's been a hard ride and a long time since you and I?
Dave
You and I both smile One more time.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Lil Dicky
Let's go.
Dave
Yeah.
Unidentified Singer
It's been a hard ride and a
Dave
long time Time since And it's?
Unidentified Singer
It's been a hard ride and a long time since you and I, you and I? It's been a hard ride in a long time since you and I and
Dave
I both yeah, yeah. Go.
Unidentified Singer
In a long time since you and I, you and I both smile One
Dave
more time, you yeah, One more time.
Unidentified Singer
It's been a hard ride in a long time since you and I? You and I both smile? But then I want to pass around I'm obsessed. It's been a hard ride in a long time since you and I, you and I both smile
Lil Dicky
See, this is songwriting.
Unidentified Singer
Oh, wow.
Lil Dicky
You realize, like, you're, like, watching, like, two, like, absolute.
Unidentified Singer
It's been a hard ride and a long time since you and I, you and I both smile we gotta quit
Dave
passing the review well, we got yeah,
Lil Dicky
yeah, gotcha real for you how do you like that?
Unidentified Singer
Since you and I, you and I both smile? We gotta put the past in the
Lil Dicky
review
Dave
yeah,
Unidentified Singer
We gotta put the pass in the review. Sitting in silence, but I can hear you yeah, yeah.
Dave
One more time, yeah.
Lil Dicky
What about hear you loud?
Dave
I like oh, yeah. No, sing it' cause it's gotta be
Ed Sheeran
the next next thing.
Lil Dicky
Sitting in silence but I can hear
Dave
you loud yeah, I got you, yeah, yeah.
Unidentified Singer
Put the pass in the review Sitting in silence where I can hear you loud I hear you loud I see you, I see you now okay. Hear you loud I see you now we gotta put the past in the review Sitting in silence, but I can hear you loud I see you now Tipping the bottom and never being. Me and you now Me and you I didn't know that we got me and you it's been a hard ride and a long time Me and you, you got stress. I can hear you loud I see you now Me and you, we got stress in real life in our chest
Dave
at the bottom, all up, let's turn the bottom until it's now. Then let's so sip on the bottle until there's.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah.
Dave
Okay, subject matter. Where are we going?
Kristen
Okay.
Dave
Okay.
Lil Dicky
So they just drank the bottle.
Ed Sheeran
Do you want to hear where we're at so far?
Unidentified Singer
Me and my friends driving around the road summertime we got the top down, Here we go. Live fast, we want to die slow all we got is our time I love and not know it's been a hard ride and a long time since you and I, you and I have both smile. We got to put the past in the review sitting inside us But I can hear you loud I see you now Me and you, we got stress in real life in our chest.
Dave
Let me do this. See?
Unidentified Singer
Hear you loud, yeah. Since you and I, you and I both smile we got to put the pain Passing the review Sitting in silence, but I can hear you now I see you now Me and you, we got stress in real life in our chest so sip on the bottle until there's nothing left.
Kristen
I love it.
Lil Dicky
And now we're at the hook. So it's.
Kristen
This is here, but the story is it's two friends. They're in their 30s. They've had life experience, maybe they've kind of fallen off and they've not talked a lot. And now they're back together and they broke through the quiet times. Now they're drinking and Laughing and bonding again and going over past memories as
Lil Dicky
if there's been no time has passed
Kristen
because they're old friends and they share a history.
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Dave
Okay, play the chorus.
Unidentified Singer
Me and you, we got stress in real life in our chest, so sip on the bottle until there's nothing left. Ain't it funny how little life is Feel like Okay. And funny how Feels like no time has passed?
Ed Sheeran
Y okay. You want to get from there?
Dave
Yeah.
Unidentified Singer
Ain't it funny how Feels like no time has pass? It's been a long time, yeah. Ain't it funny how Feels like no time has passed?
Dave
I've not got long term.
Unidentified Singer
It's been years since I like that. Yeah, it's been years since you Ain't it funny? Feels like no time has passed. It's been years since you and I feel you and I You and I feeling that it's been years since.
Dave
Let me do a octave of that.
Unidentified Singer
Ain't it funny? There's nothing left. Ain't it funny how Feels like no time has passed and it's been years since
Kristen
maybe something really specific that they've done together.
Unidentified Singer
We don't do it like this since
Dave
it's been years since
Unidentified Singer
we have been like Ain't it funny how Feels like no time has passed past? It's been years since we have been like this now.
Dave
Okay. We.
Unidentified Singer
We have been like this. We have been like this mid 30 muffin outside mid mid 30 life in the mid mid 30 buildings and stay Ain't it funny how Feels like no time. We have been like this Myth is in a bad place. I'm so glad you came in my I'm so glad you came in my way. So, yeah, we have been like this myth Dirt is in a bad place. So thank God you're in my yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Thank goodness.
Unidentified Singer
Been like this. M's in a bad place. Thank God you're in my space. Space.
Dave
Thank God.
Unidentified Singer
No, thank God you hit it.
Dave
Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Thank God you heard it.
Dave
Yeah. Yeah.
Unidentified Singer
Thank God you're here today.
Dave
Okay.
Unidentified Singer
Let me do a mid-30s in a bad place.
Kristen
It's my new favorite song.
Dave
Great.
Kristen
Do you think it's a hit?
Lil Dicky
Yeah.
Dave
Yeah.
Kristen
I think it's an incredible I think you guys just made it.
Unidentified Singer
We have been like this. Myth 30's in a bad place. Thank God you're here today.
Kristen
I would love some motivation about how life works.
Unidentified Singer
Mysterious ways.
Dave
Oh, yeah.
Unidentified Singer
I think life. Thank God you're here today. Nothing life. I think life works. I think life. Thank God you're here today. Nothing life works in mysterious ways.
Kristen
Yeah.
Ed Sheeran
Okay. And then after that, we'll do. We'll do a post. Yeah, we'll do.
Lil Dicky
Okay.
Ed Sheeran
Get that.
Dave
Well,
Unidentified Singer
nothing life works.
Dave
I think life works. Yeah. Yeah.
Unidentified Singer
Thank God you're here today. Nothing life works in mysterious ways.
Dave
And then let me go.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah, I'll double that. Do the low one first, though. Yeah, do the low one.
Unidentified Singer
Do in mysterious ways.
Dave
Let me do a harmony.
Unidentified Singer
Thank God you're here today. Nothing life works in mysterious way.
Dave
Great.
Ed Sheeran
Oh, yeah.
Dave
I'm going to fire. Can we have a. Can we have a rap now? Oh, has to be.
Unidentified Singer
You don't like nothing like works.
Dave
Black from the top.
Unidentified Singer
No.
Ed Sheeran
Yeah. Okay.
Unidentified Singer
Me and my friends driving around the road Summertime we got the top down. Here we go. Live fast, we want to die slow all we got is our time I love. It's been a hard ride and a long time since you and I, you and I smile, we got. I can hear you now I see you now Me and you we got stress in our chest so sit in the bottle until there's nothing left. Ain't it funny how feels like no time has pass? It's been years since we have been like that mid-30s in a bad place. Thank God you're here today. Nothing life works in mysterious way.
Ed Sheeran
So good.
Dave
Let me do another verse.
Ed Sheeran
Like, oh, is that.
Dave
I'll do another verse.
Kristen
It makes my eyes cry. Makes me cry. And then I think, like, you know,
Ed Sheeran
Ed can't not finish a song.
Dave
We have to. We have to finish it.
Ed Sheeran
Because if he. If he doesn't finish the song, then it might get into the next one. If it's a bad one.
Unidentified Singer
We lost to.
Kristen
I like that. That's kind of.
Dave
Wait.
Lil Dicky
If he doesn't finish the song. What?
Ed Sheeran
He has to finish the song. Because if he doesn't finish the song, then if it's a bad one, some of the bad song could go into that. It's the most annoying somewhere on the world.
Kristen
I mean, this is true.
Ed Sheeran
No. He has no idea.
Lil Dicky
He doesn't know what's the best.
Ed Sheeran
Nope.
Lil Dicky
Yeah. Cause they're all so good no matter what. That was gonna be my question.
Kristen
So you really guys. You can do this at the drop of a hat?
Lil Dicky
Yes.
Kristen
It's crazy.
Unidentified Singer
In mysterious way.
Ed Sheeran
And we're working at such a fast pace, like the editing in the process. And then usually I have to finish the song when he goes on stage, and then by the time he comes back, it has to be finished.
Kristen
It's truly this. It's already beaten. It's Already beaten. The best moment of my life. Way better.
Ed Sheeran
Are you ready?
Kristen
No.
Unidentified Singer
When we lost you spend our twenties chasing work too
Ed Sheeran
Kristen just cried.
Kristen
Why does it make me cry?
Unidentified Singer
We lost touch when we lost you hit me hard when I saw you I remember chasing work too Hit me hard when I saw you I remember I remember all that we've been through. Heartbreak, Heartbreak, heartache and a. And a couple. And couple bumps.
Dave
Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Couple bumps.
Unidentified Singer
In the road I'm a feel out. Any. Any funny. And a couple bumps in the road it's funny looking back where we are now sitting in silence where I can hear you loud I see you now Great.
Ed Sheeran
You want to get some harmonies?
Dave
I think I. I think I got to go. Oh, Nicole.
Ed Sheeran
Check. He literally just goes. I think I got to go.
Dave
I finished it. Okay. I gotta go.
Kristen
Oh, my God. It was incredible.
Ed Sheeran
Play.
Dave
Yeah, play it once. Play it once.
Kristen
You beat my you beat my best moment.
Unidentified Singer
Me and my friends driving around the road summertime we got the top
Ed Sheeran
that
Unidentified Singer
slope got his time I love and I know it's been a hard ride and a long time since you and I you and I both smile we got to put the past in the r. Sit inside us.
Dave
By the way, that was. That was about 16 minutes.
Unidentified Singer
I think we got stress in real life in our chest.
Dave
It's unreal.
Unidentified Singer
S nothing. Ain't it funny how out feels like no time has pass it's been here since we have been like that my in a bad place thank God you're here today nothing life works in mysterious way.
Ed Sheeran
For the second verse. It takes you six years to make.
Unidentified Singer
We lost touch when we lost you hit me hard when I saw you I remember I remember all that we've been through heartbreak, heartache Couple bumps in a row it's funny looking back where we are now sitting in silence but I can hear you loud See you now me and you we got stress and real.
Ed Sheeran
You better do the best verse of your life.
Unidentified Singer
Ain't it funny how feels like no time has pass Love you.
Dave
That was great.
Ed Sheeran
Love you. I'll see you in a week.
Kristen
It was so nice. Nice to meet you then.
Ed Sheeran
Awesome.
Kristen
You beat the moment.
Lil Dicky
Great herring. Love it.
Ed Sheeran
Check out. We'll finish this up. Don't worry. Don't worry.
Lil Dicky
We'll take care of it. Bye. Love ya.
Kristen
This is the master.
Ed Sheeran
Bye.
Lil Dicky
Thank you for coming.
Kristen
Ooh, Would you like me to do a little melody? I could probably do some songwriting.
Lil Dicky
I think we should add a few Kristen runs.
Ed Sheeran
Okay. Come on, mochi.
Kristen
So when do I do it. I just do it my own.
Ed Sheeran
You start it. The whole song?
Kristen
Oh, yeah, Let me start the whole song.
Unidentified Singer
Me and my friends.
Ed Sheeran
Just.
Unidentified Singer
Until there's nothing.
Ed Sheeran
You're doing good. No, keep going.
Unidentified Singer
Thank God you're here. Today. Nothing. Life works in mysterious way.
Podcast: Friends Keep Secrets
Hosts: Benny Blanco, Lil Dicky (Dave Burd), Kristin Batalucco
Guest: Ed Sheeran
Date: March 10, 2026
This hybrid episode fuses the energy of a friendly hangout, free-ranging banter, and a live songwriting session, capturing Grammy-winning singer-songwriter Ed Sheeran letting loose with Benny Blanco, Lil Dicky, and Kristin Batalucco. Set in Dave and Kristin’s LA home, the episode explores the nature of real friendship, family, music, fame, and creativity, ultimately culminating in the spontaneous birth of a new song. The mood is deeply relaxed, packed with inside jokes, unfiltered confessions, and a behind-the-scenes look at Ed’s life.
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On routine and hygiene:
On family and fame:
On global music careers and legacy:
On success and happiness:
On authenticity in songwriting:
This episode is a true “fly on the wall” hangout with Ed Sheeran and friends—a testament to the power of genuine friendship, creative synergy, and embracing both vulnerability and hilarity in the public eye. Whether sharing belly button sniff tests or the secret anxieties behind chart-topping albums, the crew reminds us that even superstars are just “normal dudes” at their core—and that sometimes, the best music is made when you're not overthinking, but just having fun with your friends.