The Kevin Gates Episode

Summary

Friends Keep Secrets – The Kevin Gates Episode

Podcast: Friends Keep Secrets
Hosts: benny blanco, Lil Dicky (Dave Burd), Kristin Batalucco
Guest: Kevin Gates
Date: March 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Friends Keep Secrets brings rapper and personality Kevin Gates into the hosts’ LA home for a full-spectrum, unfiltered hangout. Set in the show's unique hybrid format—part podcast, part sitcom, part group hang—the conversation is intimate, playful, and occasionally profound. The group (benny, Dave, Kristin, and friends Chuck and Steven) touches on vulnerability, sex and self-image, healing from trauma, body dysmorphia, writing music, and everything from grooming habits to getting over heartbreak. Gates is candid and humorous, and the conversation flows with warmth and plenty of laughs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Icebreakers and Kevin’s Arrival

• The group riffs about famous Kevins, leading to a playful guessing game.
• Kevin arrives in a “tuxedo,” which is actually a custom jogging suit.
  • [01:24] Kevin Gates: "It's really a jogging suit."
• Discussion about dressing, gym routines, and first impressions.
• Kevin shares he’s “half man, half amazing. I’m fucking great at everything."
  • [02:08]

2. Sexual Confidence, Heartbreak & Healing

• Gates speaks openly about his one experience getting drunk, prompted by heartbreak.
  • [03:07] Kevin Gates: “I was depressed. ‘Cause I had my heart broke.”
• Heartbreak as a catalyst for personal transformation; didn’t eat for 27 days, lost weight, and poured himself into music and the gym.
  • [03:47] Kevin Gates: “I didn't eat for 27 days.”
• “Comparison is the killer of all joy.”
  • [04:51] Kevin Gates
• On reuniting with his ex:
  • [05:08] Kevin Gates: “She came back and I nailed her to the cross.”
  • Sex as art and healing.

3. Sex, Insecurity, Semen Retention & Energy

• Gates discusses sexual insecurities formed from watching porn, leading him to practice semen retention and focus on sacred masculinity.
  • [06:06] “I developed an insecurity with that until I realized how sacred your masculinity is.”
• Semen retention, pelvic floor techniques, sacredness of sexual energy, and channeling sexual energy into creativity or the gym.
• “Masturbation leads to depression.”
  • [07:40], Kevin Gates
• Authentic intimacy comes from presence, intention, and not being influenced by external standards.

4. Personal Grooming & Physical Confidence

• Humorous exchange on shaving body and pubic hair and its relation to feeling “aerodynamic” and athletic.
  • [10:14] Kevin Gates: “I shave. Like, my arms, my legs…”
• Discussion on unibrows, body hair, and being comfortable in one’s skin.

5. Self-Image and Body Dysmorphia

• Gates shares about former insecurity from being overweight, triggered by a baby trying to breastfeed from him.
  • [13:14] Kevin Gates: “I was holding a baby…trying to suck my titty…that was like the best thing that ever happened to me…”
• Body dysmorphia persists, keeping him motivated.
  • [13:43]

6. Family, Healing & Vulnerability

• Gates discusses rekindling his relationship with his mother after years of estrangement, how his healing journey inspired her.
  • [19:44] “My healing journey made her want to start doing the inner-work.”
• Emotional moment: singing his mom’s childhood book song back to her.
  • [20:28] “I laid on the side of her…and I held her, and I sung that song to her…”
• “You didn’t make a mistake with me. You gave birth to a living legend.”
  • [20:45]

7. Marriage, Relationships & Jealousy

• Newly married, Gates emphasizes not being jealous anymore and what healthy love looks like for him.
  • [16:27] “When you love somebody, I love you so much I want you to be happy, even if you’re not with me.”
• On trauma bonds vs. genuine connections—no longer seeking his mother in romantic partners.
• Crying at his recent wedding, after previously giving up hope on finding love.
  • [59:59] Kevin Gates: “I cried…like, real tears.”

8. Creativity, Process & Music

• Music comes from lived experience; often has melodies/lyrics before he finds the right beat.
• Unique writing process: yoga, burning sage, “opening up” before recording; bottle-feeding a baby lynx while coming up with a melody.
  • [41:04] “I be having the melodies... I don't have the beat."
• Fun back-and-forth with Steven about producing and writing for artists like Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift.

9. Humor, Masculinity & Group Energy

• The group jokes about farts, sleeping habits, being the "little spoon", sexual self-confidence, “dinosaur dicks”, and hypothetical “would you rather” scenarios.
• Vulnerable admissions about emotional needs, masculinity, class-clown energy as a coping mechanism, and craving authentic connection.
• “Anything leaving the body is sacred.” – on never apologizing for farting
  • [53:00] Kevin Gates

10. Food, Cooking, Culture & Home

• Gates describes favorite meals: gumbo, creative burgers with Hawaiian sweet rolls.
• Cooking as celebration and an act of love within his household.
• Cultural pride—Louisiana upbringings, dialects, and family dynamics.
• Thoughts on favorite movies (Goodfellas, Casino, Titanic, Forrest Gump) and comedy versus drama.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [02:08] Kevin Gates: "I'm half man, half amazing. I'm fucking great at everything."
• [03:47] Kevin Gates: "I didn't eat for 27 days."
• [04:51] Kevin Gates: "Comparison is the killer of all joy."
• [05:08] Kevin Gates: "She came back and I nailed her to the cross."
• [06:06] Kevin Gates: "I developed an insecurity with that until I realized how sacred your masculinity is."
• [07:40] Kevin Gates: "Masturbation leads to depression."
• [13:14] Kevin Gates: "I was holding a baby…trying to suck my titty…that was like the best thing that ever happened to me…"
• [19:44] Kevin Gates: "My healing journey made her want to start doing the inner-work."
• [20:45] Kevin Gates: "You didn’t make a mistake with me. You gave birth to a living legend."
• [16:27] Kevin Gates: "When you love somebody, I love you so much I want you to be happy, even if you’re not with me."
• [41:04] Kevin Gates: “I be having the melodies... I don't have the beat."
• [53:00] Kevin Gates: “I never say excuse me…anything leaving the body is sacred.”
• [59:59] Kevin Gates: “I cried…like, real tears.”
• [47:47] Kevin Gates: "Rejection is protection. You don’t understand it when you’re going through it."

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Highlighted Segments & Timestamps

• Introductions & Fashion Chat: [00:44–02:14]
• Getting Drunk, Heartbreak & Healing: [02:35–05:56]
• Sex, Semen Retention & Intimacy: [06:06–08:49]
• Body Image, Dysmorphia, and Vulnerability: [13:04–13:48]
• Relationship with His Mother & Healing: [19:44–21:04]
• On Marriage, Jealousy & Personal Growth: [15:16–16:27]
• Music, Writing, and Creative Process: [41:04–42:58]
• Favorite Rappers & Artists: [12:15–13:14]
• Cooking & Food Love: [50:08–52:27]
• Cultural Observations & Humor: [46:49–47:47, 53:00]
• Movies & Comedy Preferences: [55:15–56:19]
• Final Reflections on Connection & Healing: [59:00–61:16]

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

Warm, open, unpredictable, and at times poignant. The group’s dynamic offers hilarious tangents (fart etiquette, dick talk, body hair) but also delves into serious territory: emotional trauma, healing, vulnerability in adulthood, parental relationships, and what it means to find and accept love after pain. Gates is utterly himself, wise without pretense, and the session feels like a microcosm of real connection—imperfect, meandering, profound, and playful.

“It feel like home.” – Kevin Gates, [57:47]

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Useful For:

• Listeners looking for candid, funny, and honest conversation about sex, trauma, masculinity, and healing.
• Kevin Gates fans wanting to hear his unfiltered philosophy on life and love.
• Anyone interested in modern friendship, creativity, and real talk outside the confines of formal interviews.

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Friends Keep Secrets: The ultimate invitation to be a fly on the wall with some of music and comedy’s sharpest personalities—this episode with Kevin Gates is a masterclass in both hilarity and heart.

Transcript

[Kristen]

I wonder if the audience is like, Kevin. Like, who is it? Kevin James. Kevin Bacon.

[Chuck]

Kevin o'. Leary. Kevin.

[Steven]

How many Kevins are there?

[Kristen]

Well, they are gonna click the link that probably says Kevin Gates.

[Steven]

How many celebrities.

[Chuck]

There's another big Kevin.

[Kristen]

I would be down to put misleading headlines in every. I swear to God.

[Steven]

Right.

[Chuck]

Is Kevin Bacon the only famous Kevin actor?

[Kevin Gates]

What?

[Kristen]

Kevin?

[Chuck]

Like, what's a Big Kevin?

[Kristen]

Kevin. Who's the guy that's like, Clerks? Mall Cops.

[Steven]

How many famous Kevins are there?

[Kristen]

Who's the guy? Who's the Clerks?

[Chuck]

Or is it really Kevin Baker?

[Steven]

List of famous.

[Chuck]

Oh, Kevin o'.

[Steven]

Leary. Kevin's Celebrities.

[Chuck]

Kevin from Home Alone.

[Kristen]

Macaulay Culkin.

[Chuck]

Yes.

[Steven]

Okay, there's Kevin Costner.

[Kristen]

Hey, can we go horseback riding? You gotta stop gatekeeping. The plan.

[Steven]

Two words.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Steven]

Santa Barbara.

[Kevin Gates]

Huh?

[Chuck]

Ooh, I love Santa Barbara.

[Steven]

I booked us the sweetest. Like, almost Cape Cod. Like home on Airbnb.

[Kristen]

Oh, I love that.

[Steven]

Let me paint you a picture. It's 8am it shouldn't be.

[Chuck]

It's gonna be a little too early.

[Kristen]

We should not be 8am why does

[Chuck]

it have to be 8am I'm 8am

[Kristen]

do you think, Kevin, today, by the end of it, if we said, hey, do you want to come on this trip with us and stay? So we're not doing a hotel?

[Steven]

No, no.

[Kristen]

Oh, he's here. Maybe he'll come with us.

[Steven]

What's he wearing?

[Kevin Gates]

Wow.

[Steven]

Oh, my God.

[Kristen]

Welcome.

[Chuck]

I should have dressed up.

[Steven]

Wow, that's cool.

[Kristen]

This is Kristen, My life.

[Steven]

He's got a tuxedo on.

[Chuck]

Ooh, that's nice material.

[Steven]

Wait a minute. Is that a tuxedo?

[Kevin Gates]

It's really not a tuxedo.

[Steven]

Okay, what is it?

[Kevin Gates]

It's really. Oh, my God. It's really a jogging suit.

[Chuck]

Wait, where'd you get that? I love that.

[Kevin Gates]

I made it custom.

[Steven]

Wait, the whole thing's a jogging suit.

[Kevin Gates]

It's a jogging suit.

[Kristen]

What is it made of? It's not the jacket. The jacket is made of different material.

[Kevin Gates]

You just saw it.

[Steven]

Oh, my God.

[Chuck]

It's so soft.

[Steven]

It is.

[Kristen]

You mind if I did it?

[Kevin Gates]

It's a sweatsuit. It's really a yoga. That's so sweet.

[Chuck]

Wait, is that the coolest thing I've ever seen?

[Steven]

This is a foot yoga outfit.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, this is a yoga outfit. If I can't do yoga in it, I ain't going in it. That is how I go, Chris.

[Steven]

The cummerbund, too.

[Kristen]

That's true. I would've thought it would've popped.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Wait it started me doing this when I go to the gym, they say you have.

[Kristen]

Wait, is it a public gym? No.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, I go to public gym.

[Kristen]

You go to a public gym in the suit?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. You hoop? I'm a great passer. Okay. Yeah. You want me to be honest?

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I'm half man, half amazing. I'm fucking great at everything. Really?

[Steven]

Yeah, you're definitely not great at everything.

[Kevin Gates]

Everything, really?

[Steven]

Tennis.

[Kevin Gates]

You let me play, like, one or two times and, hey, I go win what they call it the Wimbledon. Yeah, I go Wimbledon.

[Steven]

I believe you.

[Chuck]

Do you want any water or anything?

[Kristen]

Yeah, come on in.

[Kevin Gates]

Come on in. I'll take a little bit.

[Chuck]

A little bit of water.

[Steven]

You drink a lot of water?

[Kevin Gates]

Gallons, really.

[Steven]

You drink alcohol?

[Kevin Gates]

No.

[Chuck]

Ever?

[Kevin Gates]

Have you ever? Yeah, I've drunk alcohol before. They say it's an acquired taste, but it just don't taste like.

[Kristen]

It tastes like shit.

[Kevin Gates]

I've been drunk before.

[Steven]

You have?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Steven]

What happened?

[Kevin Gates]

I was on. Well, they told me, don't mix the brown with the white. I was downstairs, and next thing I know, I don't remember doing none of this. Next thing I know, I was on Instagram live with my box of briefs on.

[Kristen]

Oh, my God.

[Chuck]

That was the only time you've ever been drunk.

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, so embarrassed. Oh, my God.

[Kristen]

Why that night did you choose to get drunk?

[Kevin Gates]

I was depressed. Oh, why? Cause I had my heart broke.

[Steven]

What happened?

[Kevin Gates]

She left. Fuck.

[Steven]

Do you get sad?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

He got his heart broken.

[Kevin Gates]

That was the best thing that ever happened to me. But at the time, I ain't understand it.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

Why did you get through it?

[Kevin Gates]

Why did she leave?

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

How are that? They never really have an answer for why they leave, and they never really have an answer for why they come back.

[Steven]

Did she come back?

[Kevin Gates]

I knew you would be back. How long? I knew you would be back again.

[Steven]

Exactly. What were you gonna say?

[Chuck]

How long did it take you to, like, get over the heartbreak?

[Kevin Gates]

I didn't eat for 27 days. What?

[Kristen]

How could that have. Why?

[Chuck]

Because you were, like, distraught.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. I cried every day. You did? And then I had made this song, and it's so timeless. Just like, about. Cause I never had felt that kind of love before. But then after I. It kind of started my. It kind of was the point that started my healing journey. So I was doing anything to just get my mind off this person. I was going to the gym. I was taking Adderalls. I was drinking alcohol. Just like, I'm focusing on. I'm focusing on her, and it's like, you know, how people say they have triggers. Yeah.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

It's like everything I did was a trigger.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

It was like, damn, it'll be so much better with her. It'll be so much better with this. So much better with that. Then I had to realize after I tricked myself into healing. Cause I just was doing stuff to keep myself busy. And I started just. It kind of made me kind of bougie a little bit. Cause you know, I'm ghetto and I'm bougie, so I'm bougietto. Yeah. But it kind of made me like, when I deal with other women, I'm like you. Not even when I really won't. For real. Cause you not this, you not that. And they say comparison is the killer of all joy.

[Chuck]

Yeah, it is.

[Kevin Gates]

So I met some great people in the. On my healing journey on the way, but. Oh, I know what made me get over time. No, what? She came back and I nailed her

[Steven]

to the cross with your penis.

[Kevin Gates]

Nailed her to the cross?

[Chuck]

Wait, sexually, right?

[Kevin Gates]

Yes, Lord. Nailed her. Nailed her.

[Steven]

Wait. I have two questions. My one question is I can't gloss over. You didn't eat for 27 days?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, I was destroyed. No food. No food. I just would get up and drink water, drink coffee, go to the gym.

[Steven]

Did you lose so much weight?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, I lost a lot of weight.

[Steven]

Like, what, like £50?

[Kevin Gates]

Nah, not no 50, but I lost a lot of weight.

[Steven]

What did you mean when you said you nailed her to the cross? Yeah, I want to know what that means.

[Kevin Gates]

You fucked with punch dick in her soul.

[Kristen]

The way you talk about sex is so. I love it.

[Kevin Gates]

Artistic.

[Steven]

Do you think you're a top five dick puncher in the world?

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, no.

[Steven]

No. Why not?

[Kevin Gates]

Cause I don't pay attention to other people.

[Kristen]

Have you ever felt sexually insecure?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Steven]

You have? Tell me all about it.

[Kristen]

What happens when that happens for you and what does that look like?

[Kevin Gates]

I used to watch a lot of porn. Yeah, it'll make you feel insecure. Cause they're like, yeah, like I'm watching porn. This is like before I went on my semen retention journey. I'm like, I developed an insecurity with that until I realized how sacred your masculinity is. I realize how sacred semen retention is.

[Steven]

Why do you keep going like this? What's that?

[Kristen]

Semen retention is not coming.

[Chuck]

It's like teaching yourself to, like, when you feel like you're gonna do it. Not doing it.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, you don't release.

[Kristen]

It's also an energy.

[Kevin Gates]

He like, you have an Inner orgasm. And that's where under your, like under your nuts, you have something called a bulangandha. You squeeze that.

[Kristen]

Wait a minute.

[Kevin Gates]

And you send the energy up in

[Kristen]

between the nuts and the asshole.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, the gooch. Yes. It's really a boolean.

[Steven]

You know, if someone presses it while you're getting like your woman, it feels great.

[Kevin Gates]

So I've never done that.

[Steven]

You've never done that?

[Kristen]

I did it one time.

[Steven]

Really?

[Kristen]

What, like pushed my gooch with.

[Kevin Gates]

Nah, you work the pelvic floor. Like when you see me squat like that and you hold it. Well, say if you about to you, that's your pelvic floor.

[Chuck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

And when you squeeze that, it sends the energy up. Once I refrained from watching porn and I realized the intimacy was sacred between me and my partner. That's when I realized, like, that's true intimacy to know a person, like even praying before you had sex with your partner, like that's intimate to me. That's true intimacy. Like that's just playing. Yeah.

[Chuck]

No, when you grow up watching porn, like our generation and every generation to come, you don't know about, like, that becomes like your intro to stuff.

[Kevin Gates]

Masturbation leads to depression.

[Steven]

Wait, you don't masturbate?

[Kevin Gates]

Who, who does that?

[Kristen]

You used to though.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, I used to.

[Steven]

When was the last time you masturbated? When was the last time you beat your dick?

[Kevin Gates]

I was a teenager.

[Kristen]

Really?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

Do you think it leads to depression because it makes you just. Because you can always kind of do it.

[Kevin Gates]

It's a sacred precious life force and you're releasing it. And if you wasn't ashamed of. If you wasn't ashamed of what you was doing, why don't you do it openly in front of everybody you had.

[Steven]

Isn't it illegal?

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

So when the man that was telling me that, he was like, you know, that's self mutilation. I said, why? He said, that's your precious life force. That's your truth. You just shooting it in a sock.

[Steven]

Well, speaking about shooting, you should have like that I have a hold on

[Kevin Gates]

not to cut your wisdom.

[Steven]

Oh, no, no, cut me off.

[Kevin Gates]

I'm not gonna cut your wisdom. But it's other ways to stimulate yourself. Yeah, that's an outlet. You could take that same energy, that sexual energy and go work out. You could take that same energy as like sexual transmutation and you could put that energy in other places.

[Kristen]

That's just why I say I don't like talking in the morning.

[Kevin Gates]

Like with all due respect, like when I walked in the room, like when y' all met. Y' all felt my aura.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

When I walked in.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

And it's like, I like that your sexual. It's your truth.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

And when you know that you didn't make deals behind closed doors, it gives you a different level of confidence.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Now when I do release, I'm releasing my wife.

[Steven]

When you have something important and then

[Kevin Gates]

we recycle the energy. Got a question. You ever had sex with somebody and was drained afterwards? Oh, yeah. You know why?

[Kristen]

No.

[Kevin Gates]

That wasn't the right person for you. They drained your energy.

[Chuck]

Do I drain your energy?

[Kristen]

Not really.

[Kevin Gates]

I wouldn't say yes if she did.

[Kristen]

No, she doesn't really.

[Kevin Gates]

No, I don't.

[Chuck]

But sometimes it's athletic. Athletic.

[Kristen]

I like saving sense for the end of the day.

[Kevin Gates]

Cause y' all match. Yeah. Like, you could see it. Like you like it. Yeah. Y'. All. You know, some. You know, some couples, you meet them and you be like, they don't really fuck with each other for.

[Chuck]

We fuck with each other a lot.

[Kevin Gates]

Well. Hey, you got a unibrow?

[Steven]

Yeah, I do.

[Kevin Gates]

I got one, too.

[Steven]

Where is yours?

[Kevin Gates]

What do you mean? I shave it.

[Steven]

You do?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, yeah.

[Steven]

I like mine.

[Kristen]

I have one, too, but I also shave.

[Steven]

I like mine. I kept. You know, I used to. I used to.

[Kevin Gates]

My eyebrows go together.

[Steven]

I used to shave it. I used to shave it when I was like.

[Kevin Gates]

They grow like this.

[Steven]

Oh, my God, look at mine.

[Kevin Gates]

Not to cut you off, but I just know you will.

[Chuck]

You don't have any. You have to shave it every day. No, not every day.

[Steven]

The barber that you use it.

[Chuck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

He makes eyebrows. Cause it's just like a big patch of grass.

[Chuck]

Hey, is that all men?

[Kristen]

No, but mine would be way worse.

[Steven]

Wait, I do have a thing.

[Kristen]

I shave my head.

[Kevin Gates]

I'm very.

[Steven]

Okay, wait. I do have two questions now.

[Kevin Gates]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[Steven]

One, one, one, one.

[Kevin Gates]

What?

[Steven]

This was a different one. How do you keep your pubic hair?

[Kevin Gates]

I shave.

[Steven]

You shave? Like, with a razor?

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, God, me too. Me too.

[Steven]

He does too. That's crazy.

[Kevin Gates]

I tried laser. Oh. Oh, wow. I tried laser before, like, a couple sessions, but my body heals so fast, it's not even receptive to the laser.

[Steven]

Wait, so you shave. You're like a baby.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Have any?

[Kevin Gates]

I'm an asshole when I don't know. Okay. It's like when I don't shave, I feel heavy. Me, too. Like, so I shave. Like, my arms, my legs, and that just come from playing sports.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Like, so if you get a cut, they can hurry up and tend to the cut. So that's why most athletes shave their arms and their legs. Then I got tattoos. It just look cool as fuck.

[Steven]

Yeah, but you shave your pubes, for how long do you not shave? I don't shave my pubes.

[Chuck]

So is it just like your hair down there?

[Steven]

No, I, like, trim it. Air holes, odor. I trim it.

[Kristen]

Most guys trim them.

[Steven]

I have a landing strip with scissors. Air holes, odor.

[Chuck]

Most guys take scissors.

[Steven]

Remember it.

[Kevin Gates]

I gotta be aerodynamic. Then when I'm. I jog a lot. Yeah, you move fast and I'm blissed, like so. It's blast.

[Kristen]

Oh, I know. Your dick's moving around.

[Kevin Gates]

Your dicks moving around. You know, you gotta.

[Kristen]

Is that what you mean?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, you don't want all that friction and all that. Cause I jog a lot.

[Chuck]

They don't have carriages for that.

[Steven]

He's not very blessed.

[Kevin Gates]

I'm not an overthinker. I operate out my heart. So, like, if I walk in the room, say, like, when I walked in here and the energy wasn't right, I'd have told my partner, hey, come on, let's go.

[Chuck]

Really?

[Kevin Gates]

It's not right. It just don't feel right. But when I came here, I was like, man, this bitch feel like home.

[Kristen]

Hell, yeah.

[Steven]

Have you ever been like, man, I wonder if that person liked me.

[Kevin Gates]

Who gives a fuck? They ain't stopped calling my phone.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

So you're not ever worried how people like. You're not worried if people don't like you or if they don't?

[Kristen]

No.

[Kevin Gates]

Authenticity is the highest frequency.

[Chuck]

How do you get there? How should I get there? Yoga.

[Kevin Gates]

You go get a book that's called the Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Read it.

[Chuck]

I read it.

[Steven]

Isn't that Mark? Isn't that Mark Manson? Isn't that Mark Manson?

[Chuck]

Is that.

[Steven]

Yeah, I read that book, too.

[Chuck]

Have you read the Power Now?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. By Eckhart Tort.

[Chuck]

Yeah, we're the same. Well, I gotta do yoga.

[Kristen]

Who's your favorite rapper right now?

[Kevin Gates]

I'm not trying to sound facetious when I say this.

[Steven]

Drake.

[Kevin Gates]

Kevin Gates.

[Kristen]

No, not you. Not you.

[Kevin Gates]

I got to forgive me.

[Kristen]

After you.

[Kevin Gates]

I'm not sorry.

[Kristen]

After you.

[Steven]

There is no after.

[Kristen]

Yes, there is. There can be.

[Kevin Gates]

Second favorite, favorite, favorite. They gotta be dead or living.

[Steven]

Anything. They could be dead. They could be dead.

[Kristen]

They can be dead. But then I wanna also do living.

[Kevin Gates]

They can be dead. Biggie Small.

[Kristen]

I love Biggie, okay?

[Kevin Gates]

I like when he take that breath.

[Kristen]

He was the best you could be at everything. He had the best voice, he had the best flow. He had the best lyrics. He was so relatable, yet so aspirational.

[Kevin Gates]

He did the best. Then I. Like when he gave that food order during the thing, he was like, I want the eggs with Welch's.

[Steven]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

The eggs with Welch's grapes. I say, man, that's some real fat nigga shit, man. I wanna be a fat n. He just made it look cool. You know what I'm saying?

[Steven]

Were you ever really fat?

[Kristen]

What?

[Kevin Gates]

Titty, man.

[Steven]

Yeah. Yeah. But, like, wasn't there something. What was the reason why you lost. Why you wanted to lose weight or something?

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, I told everybody that.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I love it.

[Kristen]

Please tell us that.

[Kevin Gates]

I was holding a baby one time and the baby was trying to suck my titty. And like, everybody, they did that and they was laughing at me. And that was like the best thing that ever happened to me, to be honest. Cause it was like, it motivated me to get on my shit. Like, I don't wanna be insecure and have to make it cool to be outta shape. Like, I used to make jokes to take the attention out of me and, you know, and I don't wanna. I'm on the block. Sexy. No, Kevin, you're fat. Yeah. You're fat.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

And I'm glad that I still have body dysmorphia to this day. Cause it make me stay focused.

[Chuck]

What's your dysmorphia? Like, you don't think you're in shape?

[Kevin Gates]

I be feeling like I'm fat sometimes.

[Steven]

Really?

[Kevin Gates]

Me too. Which I know I'm sexy as fuck, but. Yeah. But sometime I feel like I'm just a fat son, so you do, too.

[Chuck]

Should I sit on the couch?

[Steven]

Yeah, we can sit on the couch.

[Chuck]

My legs are hurting.

[Kristen]

I'll bring your water.

[Steven]

Oh, Chuck, will you bring mine?

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Did you make that song that we love the world?

[Kristen]

Yes.

[Kevin Gates]

I got command in my pants and my anus is huge.

[Steven]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

My children love that song.

[Kristen]

Hell, yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

He made it with me, I swear to God.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Steven]

Wait, how many kids do you have?

[Kevin Gates]

How many you need me to have?

[Steven]

However many you have.

[Kevin Gates]

We only got five, but it's like I'm gonna give myself, like, maybe a year, year and a half to just enjoy. Like, my wife, my new wife. We just got married, too.

[Chuck]

Oh, congratulations.

[Kevin Gates]

Not this Saturday, but last Saturday.

[Steven]

Oh, my God. You just got married.

[Chuck]

You're newlyweds.

[Kevin Gates]

And I'm excited today. Cause I don't take a Break. Like, even when I'm not on the road performing, I'm working out or in the studio, I never take a break. And this is my last engagement. Like, I came to see you, and then people ask me, what you gonna do? I don't know. I might drive to Napa.

[Chuck]

Ooh, you should, for your honeymoon.

[Kevin Gates]

Like, I love road trips. You should do a. Honey, it's gonna be my first, like, honeymoon.

[Chuck]

Like, you guys should. As soon as you leave here, get in the car, straight to Napa.

[Kevin Gates]

Don't do that. No, I'm not going straight.

[Steven]

Don't do that.

[Kevin Gates]

I want to have a spa day.

[Steven]

Have you ever been married?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Steven]

How many times?

[Kevin Gates]

I had two divorces and one marriage and one year. I am a motherfucking legend.

[Kristen]

Two divorces, one marriage. Two divorces.

[Steven]

One.

[Chuck]

Two divorces, one marriage, one year.

[Kevin Gates]

My last marriage before this, I was married 52 days. Oh.

[Kristen]

But Brittany Renner.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Steven]

What do you think went wrong?

[Kevin Gates]

Nothing. Everything went right. It was only supposed to be 52 days.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

Was it a hard divorce or breakup?

[Kevin Gates]

No.

[Steven]

Are you a jealous person?

[Kevin Gates]

No.

[Steven]

You're not.

[Chuck]

Were you ever?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

How did you become un.

[Kevin Gates]

I think my jealousy came from childhood trauma.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Like, as a child, like you giving that person more attention than you giving me. Cause I had unhealed, like, traumas that came from my mother. Like you giving this man more attention than you giving your own children.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

And I think, like, I would unknowingly compete for the attention for sure with my woman from everything. I don't want you to give nothing more attention than me. I don't care if we have kids. You better not give up. And I think that came. That stemmed from my, like, deep rooted childhood trauma. But I guess on my healing journey, I learned that when you love somebody, I love you so much. I want you to be happy, even if you're not with me.

[Kristen]

Where are you from?

[Kevin Gates]

Louisiana.

[Steven]

Wait, where?

[Kevin Gates]

Louisiana.

[Steven]

I have family. Part of my family's from Louisiana.

[Kevin Gates]

Louisiana.

[Steven]

Baton Rouge. And is that where you're from?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. I grew up in Baton Rouge.

[Steven]

Yeah, Baton Rouge and then New Orleans and all my cousins call it Nolan's.

[Chuck]

Well, how do you say it? Nolan?

[Steven]

Yeah, that's how they say it.

[Kevin Gates]

That just what that white lady tell me. It just grinds my fucking gear shafts when somebody says New Orleans.

[Steven]

Oh.

[Chuck]

Oh, it has to be. Wait, so how do you say it?

[Kevin Gates]

New Orleans.

[Chuck]

New Orleans.

[Kristen]

But I can't say New Orleans. You think I'm ridiculous?

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Steven]

Hey, wait, what's your name? What's your New Orleans.

[Kevin Gates]

What's your. Oh, cool, bro. I ain't know what. When I came here, bro, I thought we was gonna have to be. No, y' all cool as fuck, though.

[Steven]

Hey, wait, you just said grind my gears. What do you think your top two favorite white Sangs are of all time?

[Kristen]

Grind My gears is a good one.

[Chuck]

I like grind. Is that a white saying?

[Steven]

Yeah, that's what you just said, Kevin.

[Kevin Gates]

When they say stuff about you on the Internet. It just grinds my gear shafts.

[Steven]

I'm looking at top tier.

[Kristen]

White.

[Steven]

White.

[Kevin Gates]

Now. They had this other girl, she used to work at the front desk in this building. I used to always go in and she was like, how's your day going? I'd be like, it's going good. Love that for you. I hate that for you. And she was just monotone, so I used to make a. I started making a joke out of like, I love this. For me.

[Kristen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steven]

Hey, you ever use this one? You're on thin ice, buddy.

[Kevin Gates]

Uh.

[Kristen]

Have you ever smoked weed?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Gotten high.

[Kevin Gates]

I smoke more weed in this whole room.

[Steven]

Do you still smoke weed or not?

[Kevin Gates]

I was still drinking Lean when I first started working out.

[Chuck]

What's Lean?

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, my God. You don't know what lean is?

[Chuck]

I've heard of that, but I can't remember.

[Kristen]

Explain it.

[Kevin Gates]

It's this fucking cough syrup.

[Chuck]

Oh, yeah?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. Okay. And you mix it with your soda and you pour it over your ice.

[Chuck]

That's it.

[Kevin Gates]

And it's fucking.

[Kristen]

What's it feel like? I never done it.

[Chuck]

There's no alcohol in it.

[Kristen]

Have you done it?

[Kevin Gates]

I can't say what it feels like. I did once, but it tastes good and it just makes me just relax.

[Steven]

I did it once when I was prescribed, man.

[Kevin Gates]

Me and him would have got in all the trouble in the world in high school. I couldn't be around that dude.

[Steven]

Did you hang out with guys like us in high school?

[Kevin Gates]

Right?

[Steven]

You did?

[Kevin Gates]

I could, man. I just. I could imagine in a setting where we supposed to be serious.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Cause he just look like he be wanting to laugh all the time. And I used to get in trouble for laughing.

[Kristen]

Me too.

[Steven]

Me too.

[Kevin Gates]

I ain't even do nothing. Me too. Like this dude over here throwing paper. And I just be laughing. And she turn around. Who did that? Kevin. To the office.

[Chuck]

That was me, too.

[Kevin Gates]

Like, that's like sitting in class.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

And your teacher wants you to just.

[Kristen]

Oh, yeah, she.

[Chuck]

And that was me.

[Kevin Gates]

I can't do that puss ass shit, man. I gotta be Moving around.

[Chuck]

That was me.

[Kevin Gates]

I'm an energetic person. You got a lot of energy.

[Steven]

You're very charming.

[Kristen]

They got mad at me for sneezing.

[Kevin Gates]

Everybody tell me that till I get in trouble. They be like, I can't believe you'll do some shit like that. I'm like, look, my family don't. My mama don't give a fuck what I do in life. So.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Steven]

Is your mom still alive?

[Kevin Gates]

It's crazy you say that. Cause I got this part of my tour. Like, at the last song that I do that I was confused Hard to trust again with all my heart's been through Been misused Not the one you choose I fall back from you Heal my wounds Name and face tattoo can't get that removed Lesson learned They been using you and they show gratitude Well, I got this part of my.

[Steven]

That was so cool.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. I got this part of my. Like, this last part is like a tribute to my mother.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Cause it's like this year was the first year that me and her talked in maybe, like, three years.

[Chuck]

Wow.

[Kevin Gates]

And she told me that I used to see her in passing, but she told me that my healing journey made her want to start doing the inner work. So.

[Chuck]

Wow.

[Kevin Gates]

We had just. We been talking, and they got this. They got this book I had once got. It was called. I forgot what the fuck it's called, but it's about this boy. His mother used to sing to him when he was little. She like, I love you forever, my baby.

[Chuck]

Well, I had that book.

[Kevin Gates]

It's a little blue book.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

The goodness.

[Chuck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I had laid on the side of her in my bed, and it's like it healed that inner child.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

And I just. And I held her, and I sung that song to her, and I told her, hey, let me tell you a secret. She was like, what? She thought I was about to get serious. I said, listen, I know you probably beat yourself up, but I want you to know you ain't never made no mistake with me. You gave birth to a fucking living legend.

[Chuck]

Wow.

[Kevin Gates]

And she started laughing and shit, and we just. Cause our relationship was, like, horrible.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Like, my grandmother raised me.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

And then it was so beautiful. Cause it's like, mothers are not perfect.

[Chuck]

No. They're people, too.

[Kevin Gates]

And they're not always right. But they did give us life. Yeah. She did the best she knew how to do.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

You had me at a young age. You did the best you could.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

You know, we didn't really have everything coming up. You know what I'm saying?

[Steven]

How old was she when she had me?

[Kevin Gates]

She had me. Yeah. She started early.

[Steven]

How old? My wife's mom was really young, too.

[Kevin Gates]

Was it really young?

[Steven]

She was 15.

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, about that.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Steven]

She was 16 when the baby was born. But she got pregnant when she was 15.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, about that.

[Steven]

Yeah. Cause my wife is 33 and her mom is 48 or something. 48? 49.

[Kristen]

Are you the oldest?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, on my mama's side.

[Kristen]

Wow.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

Are you close with your siblings?

[Kevin Gates]

My little sister. I swear to God, she probably about your size.

[Chuck]

Really?

[Kevin Gates]

And she could fight good. Really? Kayla, she's like tiny but mighty.

[Kristen]

Can you fight good?

[Chuck]

I don't know.

[Steven]

Can you fight good?

[Kevin Gates]

You look like you beat shit up.

[Chuck]

I might be able to do like.

[Kristen]

I've been in a fight.

[Steven]

I don't think so.

[Kevin Gates]

It's always the people that say that.

[Kristen]

You've been in a fight?

[Chuck]

Yeah, I got pushed once.

[Steven]

Well, what happened?

[Kristen]

I was pushed once.

[Steven]

That was it.

[Kevin Gates]

Did you push back?

[Chuck]

No, I didn't, because it was a. I was in the wrong.

[Kevin Gates]

You didn't want to hurt him.

[Steven]

Have you ever been.

[Chuck]

I took it and I thought, I've

[Kristen]

gotten punched in the face twice before.

[Chuck]

You got punched in the face?

[Kristen]

I was in college and I just got. I studied abroad in Australia and we really had nothing to do and we just got so drunk and kind of like caused havoc in the streets. And there was for no reason, I just walked past a man and I pulled my pants down. I showed him my dick and I said, what do you think about this? And he just didn't break stride and just rocked me in the face.

[Chuck]

Flashed a random man.

[Kristen]

Yeah, flashed a random man. And his reaction. His reaction was just not breaking stride to just punch me in the face. And I was so drunk. And I just remember. I remember backing up.

[Kevin Gates]

I remember going like this.

[Kristen]

I put my hands up and I backed. I kept back.

[Steven]

What would you do if you walked down the street and. And it's you and your girl and the guy goes, hey, Kevin, he's got like a 50 inch dick and pulls it out.

[Kevin Gates]

Then you 50.

[Steven]

Or maybe it was like. Maybe he was like this long.

[Kevin Gates]

Put that little shit up.

[Steven]

This isn't little.

[Kevin Gates]

Come on to you.

[Steven]

This isn't little. The actual.

[Kristen]

Your dick's not bigger than this. Your dick's not bigger than this. I don't care what you say. Nope, not bigger.

[Steven]

That's like the biggest dick of all time.

[Kevin Gates]

I guess I got the biggest dick of all time.

[Kristen]

What would you guys pair your olipop flavor with a meal. What would you pair it with? Like for me, obviously I have a Shirley Temple and I would have probably a burrito.

[Steven]

With this Burrito?

[Kristen]

Yeah. With fish.

[Chuck]

You want a fish burrito?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Steven]

Not having a fish burrito with a Shirley Temple.

[Chuck]

I'm stick to what I've always thought, which is Waffles.

[Kristen]

Oh, a digestif.

[Chuck]

Yeah, for my breakfast.

[Kristen]

That's not what it is, a breakfast. What about you?

[Steven]

Potato pancakes?

[Kevin Gates]

Vodka? Yeah.

[Kristen]

Buy any two cans of Olipop in store and they'll pay you back for one. Any flavor, any retailer. Go to drinkollipop.com fks cha ching. These kind of episodes kind of feel like you're at a music festival.

[Chuck]

And you know what I love?

[Kristen]

What?

[Chuck]

Going to a music festival with my friends. Having like a nice white claw.

[Kristen]

Oh, that's a coincidence. It's in my grip.

[Chuck]

I love a white claw. I love the sound of the open.

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, shoot that up. And I love hanging out and having a little sip.

[Kristen]

There's fest. You like music festival?

[Steven]

No, but I love white claw. Please drink responsibly. Hard seltzer with flavors. White Claw Seltzer Works Chicago, Illinois Can

[Kristen]

I smack it off your head?

[Steven]

Yeah. Yeah, you can smack it.

[Kristen]

Enjoy the episode. You gotta wait to see this one.

[Kevin Gates]

I told my wife, I say, you know how you know I love you for real? She say, why? I said, I let you see my dick on soft.

[Chuck]

I'm soft.

[Steven]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristen]

When it's soft. She said, I'm soft.

[Kevin Gates]

Placid.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

Yeah. What's the dick on the salt?

[Kevin Gates]

I say, that's how you know I love you. For real?

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I let you see my dick when it's soft.

[Steven]

He told me that he thinks speaking during sex should be illegal.

[Kristen]

Did you talk dirty?

[Kevin Gates]

What?

[Kristen]

What do you say?

[Kevin Gates]

I gotta talk her through it.

[Kristen]

I can't.

[Steven]

Yeah. He doesn't say anything. There's no words.

[Kristen]

I can't say, yes, you do.

[Kevin Gates]

I gotta talk.

[Chuck]

He talks.

[Steven]

What's the thing you say?

[Chuck]

He says? You say stuff.

[Steven]

What do you say?

[Chuck]

Our honeymoon. He said stuff?

[Steven]

Yeah. Only once.

[Chuck]

A lot of stuff. Lot of talking.

[Kristen]

I said, please. I said, please. And she said, what'd you say?

[Kevin Gates]

I just say, good girl.

[Steven]

It sounds cool.

[Kristen]

That's not bad. If that's it.

[Kevin Gates]

I mean, I talk her through it. I let her know, keep your back arched.

[Chuck]

That's a good. You could talk me through it.

[Kevin Gates]

I talked to her.

[Chuck]

I think it's a good script.

[Kevin Gates]

You know, sometimes they straighten that back up, they be running I don't run.

[Kristen]

You're a pretty, like, sexual artist. Like, I feel like you're a sex symbol to me.

[Chuck]

How do you know that?

[Kristen]

Because it's a famous rapper.

[Kevin Gates]

It's like I look at a woman like art. Me too.

[Kristen]

Like, when you go on stage, you hear, like, the high pitched screams of women.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

That doesn't happen in my life.

[Kevin Gates]

I throw bras and shit on stage.

[Steven]

Yeah. Give them some pointers.

[Kevin Gates]

So this is like pure appreciation. Like. And people be asking me, like, are you a pleaser? I'm like, yeah, I aim to please my partner. So when I'm with my woman, I want her to experienced, like, the greatest ecstasy ever. And it's like, I just. Like, she's so beautiful. Like, I want to see how she look when that dick off up in her. When she make the ugly faces. I just can't wait.

[Chuck]

I'm always scared of the ugly faces.

[Kristen]

I don't like looking at faces.

[Chuck]

When you're looking for, like, a partner, do you? Is that. Or is it the personality? What are you caring for?

[Kevin Gates]

Before I was healed, I used to look for my mother. So most women that I would deal with, it would be a trauma bond. It would be a connection, but we would be trauma bonded, talking about the past and all that bullshit. Now I look for myself.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Like, I want a best friend. I don't want. Yeah, y' all cool. Y' all a cool ass couple.

[Chuck]

So you do a lot of, like, stuff to work on your inner self.

[Kevin Gates]

I got to.

[Chuck]

Cause you say stuff like inner child, which I'm like, I know the books you're reading. I know how. Cause, like, you don't ever. It's a thing. It's a healing thing.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. Cause a lot of this shit, a lot of the shit that I involved myself in and engaging in came from trauma. It ain't come from me.

[Chuck]

Totally.

[Kevin Gates]

I ain't think I was gonna say this today. It's refreshing talking to y'. All. Oh, God. Like, when you was like, the same books. Cause if I had this conversation around my niggas, they don't be knowing. They'll listen. And they fuck with me and they know how I am, but they don't really just be off into that. Like, they make jokes like that. You go with the healthy shit.

[Kristen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

But some of my partners, man, they be like, hey, bitch, I'm about to start. Oh, you from. Well, we from Louisiana. So when we say like, hey, bitch, that's like a term of endearment. If I fuck with you, like that. Hey, bitch, I'm getting sexy. Yeah, hey bitch, you know, like we talk like that.

[Steven]

If a friend, that's a guy, he'd come, he'd go, hey, bitch, I'm getting sexy.

[Kristen]

Or only you wouldn't say that to you?

[Kevin Gates]

It depends. Like the way you said it. He wouldn't say it like that.

[Steven]

Like, hey, bitch, I'm getting sexy.

[Kevin Gates]

Nah, he wouldn't say it like that. He almost said like. Like, I got a song where I say, stopping off at Dixie. You know, Brian got the hookup shaw to say I'm sexy. Bitch, I just got off the push ups. Like, it just.

[Chuck]

I like that.

[Kevin Gates]

You gotta say it with authority. Yeah. Like when you say, hey bitch, I'm getting sexy, that sound like that sound like I'm a.

[Kristen]

Everything you say sounds too much authority.

[Kevin Gates]

Sound like you want dick.

[Chuck]

Do you like stoicism? Do you ever read any books about like Ryan Holiday?

[Kevin Gates]

You got that the Daily Stoic?

[Chuck]

Well, yeah, I have that.

[Kevin Gates]

Man, get out of my psychic space.

[Chuck]

I'm listening to right now. The cur. Wait, the wisdom of.

[Kevin Gates]

You got that? The daily store, the 300?

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, yeah. I fuck with you. Hey, you know, I still have my book collection.

[Kristen]

Why? Why?

[Kevin Gates]

Cause it wasn't fly to be no nigga around. Niggas reading that ain't fly.

[Chuck]

Yeah, but you could change.

[Kevin Gates]

You gotta be that. You gotta done a lot of time in prison and shit. So all I did was read in there anyway. Cause I ain't.

[Chuck]

Do they have books like that there?

[Kevin Gates]

Nah, I get shit mailed to me.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Steven]

Were you scared?

[Kevin Gates]

Who me? Yeah. Uh. The first time I went, if. And I always tell people this, I first went to prison, I was 13. Oh my God. If they would have just put the handcuffs on me, pulled me in front of jail and said, if you fuck up again, we gonna take you in there. And then let me go. It have been. I'd have never went to jail again a day in my life. Yeah, but once you overcome the fear of imprisonment.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

It. That's what leads to recidivism.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

It becomes. That's what called like a recidivism is like a repeat offender. Yeah. Like I diagnosed myself.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

So like once I overcame the fear of imprisonment, it became easier and easier for me to go back.

[Steven]

Oh, I'd be so scared.

[Chuck]

I can't believe it.

[Steven]

I always try.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, you would be scared for like the first like lit. Cause you hear all the silly ass stories and shit in jail. Don't go like that. I would be Scared. Then they show you these. They show you these prisons on tv, them Mickey Mouse camps. That shit don't go like that in real life. It's structured. So really, when you get in there around people with a life sentence, you gon keep it clean. You not gonna be making noise. You not gonna be all that. There be kids on there. They be showing them. And look them be little camps. Yeah.

[Steven]

So if I'm quiet and minding my

[Kevin Gates]

own business, it's gonna move off Respect. Like when I say you got everybody in here got life sentences. So when you on a dorm or a till with lifers. Yeah, it's the most peaceful. Cause everybody respect everybody.

[Steven]

But wouldn't it be more violent because they know they got nothing to lose.

[Kevin Gates]

It's not. It's more peaceful. It's gonna be structured.

[Steven]

Like, what's happening with, like, Diddy in jail right now? Is he in, like, normal jail or no?

[Kevin Gates]

I don't know. I don't follow. I don't keep up with that shit.

[Steven]

He's at a place called Fort Dix. That's where he is. He's at a place called Fort Dix.

[Kevin Gates]

The irony.

[Steven]

He requested to be changed to Fort Dix.

[Kevin Gates]

The irony.

[Steven]

Yeah. It's crazy. You know, I always try to figure out if I did Fort D. What the fuck, guys? You know what I love about Domino's?

[Kevin Gates]

What? The heat.

[Steven]

The heat. This thing was just delivered. It's warming my entire body. It's like a furnace. I feel like I'm in a sauna.

[Kristen]

Can I make a confession?

[Steven]

What?

[Kristen]

The economics of the best deal ever. The advantage of the best deal ever is that you can get seven toppings for the same price as getting none.

[Steven]

No.

[Chuck]

Really?

[Kristen]

Yeah. So I love cheese, so I'm okay with it.

[Chuck]

I want to get a lot of toppings. I want to Max.

[Kevin Gates]

I want to get pineapple. Yeah. I want to get onion. I want to get pepperoni.

[Steven]

I wonder if I'm the type of guy that could just get plus seven

[Kristen]

cheese for a limited time. You can get any pizza with any toppings for just 9.99 at Domino's. This is Domino's best deal ever.

[Steven]

Could I get the seven cheese? This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. It's pretty ironic that my birthday is International Women's Day.

[Kristen]

Because you're a man.

[Chuck]

I would like to say one thing about International Women's Day. I want to give a shout out to all of my girlfriends, all of my friends. I feel like they all support me. And do you know who Supports all of us, our therapists and we always talk about our therapists. We always quote our therapists. And I think it's important to always encourage everybody around you to go to therapy and to go to therapy. And therapy's helped me and I hope that it helps other people.

[Steven]

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[Kevin Gates]

Perfect.

[Steven]

I don't care about any of that stuff.

[Kevin Gates]

I don't give a fuck who you been with. I don't give a fuck who you been with before me. I got a dinosaur dick, bitch. I don't care who you been with.

[Steven]

I got a dinosaur.

[Kevin Gates]

Ain't nobody perfect. We all done been through shit.

[Chuck]

Dinosaur.

[Steven]

I got a dinosaur.

[Kevin Gates]

I never heard of that. It was a figure of speaker.

[Steven]

No, I love I got a dinosaur.

[Kristen]

I feel like I have the same exact level of confidence you have in general about myself, except I don't have that sexually.

[Chuck]

Yes, you do to me.

[Kristen]

I have it sexually with you.

[Kevin Gates]

I feel at the same time, who gives a fuck?

[Steven]

I feel like you're not always around.

[Kevin Gates]

I know this sounds so cliche. Sex is not everything. Of course it's not.

[Kristen]

I agree with you completely.

[Kevin Gates]

A lot of relationships with women, the only thing we had in common was sex.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I'm talking about when we fucking. Oh, bitch. You know I'm telling my partner. What's up with her name, bitch? A demon. The bitch a demon in that motherfucker. When you get in that square. Talking about the bed.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, bitch.

[Steven]

A demon in the square.

[Chuck]

I like it.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, we going to the square. Hey, keep it real. Please keep it real. Answer this question.

[Steven]

Yes.

[Kevin Gates]

Do you like being little spoon?

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Love it.

[Steven]

Oh, my. It's my favorite thing in the world. It's my favorite thing in the world.

[Chuck]

I prefer it.

[Kevin Gates]

You like Look.

[Kristen]

I prefer it.

[Kevin Gates]

Look, I'm different. Like when I sleep, I got a pillow between my knees.

[Steven]

Yep.

[Kevin Gates]

I got one right here. And I got one I'm sleep on then before, like when I sleep alone a lot. So I got somebody. I got a pillow right here.

[Steven]

Yeah, that's exactly what I do, man.

[Kevin Gates]

When I say that woman move the pillow and hold on to me like a little monkey.

[Kristen]

I love when you're doing.

[Kevin Gates]

You're fat. I told my partner. I told my partner. My partner say, man, you don't never let no bitch. Hey, say, bro. I like you, bro.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I love it.

[Kevin Gates]

I say, bro, I think I like you, bro. I think I like you.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

Yeah. It's comforting.

[Steven]

It's amazing.

[Kevin Gates]

I.

[Steven]

You know, I sleep the exact same way. I have a pillow right here. One pillow here. And then I sleep with, like, a little stuffed down.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. I turn into. I'm like fetal position. I turn into a baby.

[Kristen]

I got a question.

[Kevin Gates]

I got an answer.

[Kristen]

Do you ever make up kind of voices?

[Kevin Gates]

What? Yeah, man. I got people in my head. Talk to me. You too.

[Steven]

No, he's saying, with your girl.

[Kristen]

With your girl. Like kind of a way of speaking.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, but I do all kind of shit, okay. I got this white dude named Stephen Schwartz that lives inside my. And, like, if I'm walking in the mall, I might be like, honey bunch. And I just.

[Kristen]

What?

[Kevin Gates]

I don't know. Honey bunch.

[Chuck]

I feel like I've heard Stephen Schwartz when we've been on.

[Steven]

I like that.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. I just turn. I just do it. Like, really? That was a coping mechanism for me.

[Chuck]

So, like, I feel like we all here see the. Like, you have to have comedy to get you through the shit.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. So it was a coping. It was like a coping mechanism for me.

[Kristen]

Have you always been that? Like, when you were a kid, were you that kind of. Yeah. Like, were you, like a class clown type of dude?

[Kevin Gates]

No, I was shy.

[Steven]

Yeah, you were?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, I was shy. Like, now if I know you, I ain't gonna shut up. But if I go into a setting where, I don't know, I kind of be kind of militant.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I just sit back and just watch everything.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

If I don't know nobody. Yeah. I'm not big. I'm not good in big, big settings.

[Steven]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Cause I'm like. It's too much different energy. So I like to just chill, you know, Stay like, regular. But like this shit, like, this comfortable for me. Cause it's like, I feel like you at your house.

[Kristen]

Yeah, you are.

[Steven]

Yeah. When you were shot. Do you.

[Kevin Gates]

You were shy before you shot.

[Kristen]

You were shy before you satisfy.

[Steven]

No, no, I said you were shy before. Do you think I'm still shy?

[Kevin Gates]

A little bit.

[Steven]

Even with your dinosaur dick?

[Kevin Gates]

Well, you don't really know that you got a dinosaur dick. When you, like, if you got a big dick, you don't really know that you got a big dick.

[Kristen]

That's your deal.

[Chuck]

How do you not know?

[Kristen]

I would know.

[Kevin Gates]

You don't just know that, though. Like, you grow. You grow into knowing.

[Steven]

Check.

[Kevin Gates]

Did you know you grow into knowing

[Chuck]

how to use it?

[Kevin Gates]

I ain't gonna say how to use it. You grow into knowing that you got a big dick. Cause women tell you, like, you really got a big ass dick, but he

[Steven]

always thought he had a lip. My dick's thick.

[Kevin Gates]

And then when you watch. Yeah, you know, we girthy. So you know when you watch, feels nice. Then when you watch porn, feels fills. They got women on there that's like 4ft tall, but they go get a dude that's like 6, 8, 6 9.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. So proportion wise, it's looking like this nigga shit look like an arm or something. Yeah, he doesn't like that even watching porn. You kind of start developing insecurities watching porn.

[Chuck]

Definitely a little chilly.

[Steven]

What are you gonna eat today?

[Chuck]

Yeah, what's the big meal today?

[Kevin Gates]

Eat some ass.

[Steven]

Do you like eating ass?

[Kristen]

I've never eaten ass. What?

[Steven]

He's never eaten ass.

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, my God.

[Kristen]

I don't like the asshole.

[Steven]

Have you ever seen your own?

[Chuck]

Yeah, he's a great one.

[Kristen]

Yeah, I have. Have you seen your own asshole? Have you, like, looked in the mirror?

[Kevin Gates]

I can't look and see.

[Chuck]

You go to the mirror and go like this and pull the chest.

[Steven]

You want to go look at it.

[Kevin Gates]

That ain't never really been no thing for me. Like, I'm about to look at my shoes.

[Steven]

You should go do it.

[Chuck]

He has a great one.

[Steven]

Go do it.

[Kristen]

There's a bathroom mirror.

[Chuck]

You have a beautiful asshole.

[Kristen]

You basically go to the mirror and you look in between your legs and then you can see it. You should do it.

[Chuck]

Everyone's gotta check it out their own.

[Kevin Gates]

So, you know, what am I looking for?

[Steven]

I don't know. Gold.

[Chuck]

You might be shocked. Like his. I didn't think I would ever. It's very, like, aesthetically pleasing. All just one uniform, uniformed. You can't even. There's like. It just is like a little soft pink pug.

[Kevin Gates]

Would she.

[Kristen]

It's like the color of a pig. It's like the color of a pig.

[Steven]

Have you ever talked about this with any of your friends?

[Kevin Gates]

Me?

[Steven]

You guys have never talked about it.

[Kevin Gates]

I'm gonna be honest. Have I talked about this shit with people that I met for the first time? Fuck no. But it's. But I' ma be honest, though. It just feel like I just been knowing y' all and I'm like, that there's certain people when I go. It don't be like this.

[Chuck]

You have a calming energy.

[Kevin Gates]

Everybody tell me that.

[Chuck]

I feel like we're normally like, kind of. We talk over each other a lot and I feel like your presence Is like very like.

[Steven]

Yeah, your.

[Kevin Gates]

Everybody tell me that. I don't know.

[Steven]

You have an aura about you. You have a very different.

[Kevin Gates]

I got that aura.

[Kristen]

After we're done, I don't forget, I'm gonna walk you to these my favorite streets.

[Kevin Gates]

I can't wait. This shit you can go to sleeping next.

[Kristen]

I believe it.

[Steven]

This could be such a good thing.

[Chuck]

You never make em for girls.

[Kristen]

The shoes aren't made up of them.

[Kevin Gates]

No, she got a. She got this all in one. Cause like, you know that song that I'm in love with Dasha, but that's how I am with. I'm not in love with her.

[Chuck]

You like?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. You wanna see the shoes? I'm in love with your body. You know he did.

[Kristen]

Didn't you write that?

[Kevin Gates]

Sure, I know you did. You wrote that. You fucking wrote that.

[Steven]

No, I executive produced that album. So I helped him on like the.

[Kevin Gates]

You wrote that song?

[Steven]

He wrote. He wrote that.

[Kevin Gates]

You executive produced that, the album?

[Steven]

Yeah, he wrote it.

[Kevin Gates]

Well, you gonna executive produce my fucking album?

[Steven]

I'd love. We should all make a song.

[Kevin Gates]

Let's do it. When you gonna. So you executive produce shit like that?

[Steven]

Yeah, yeah, I did his. I did.

[Kevin Gates]

He's a big music producer, so.

[Kristen]

Did you know that? Do you know nothing about it?

[Kevin Gates]

I got a question.

[Steven]

What?

[Kevin Gates]

So you executive produce shit like.

[Steven]

Yeah,

[Kevin Gates]

like that Ed Sheeran type of shit?

[Steven]

Yeah, I did, I did, I did.

[Kevin Gates]

And they say she's there.

[Steven]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like here, wait, let me see.

[Kevin Gates]

Breathing in the snow. Here.

[Steven]

Here, I'll show you. I love that. I'll show you.

[Chuck]

You do have a good voice. I'll show you singing voice.

[Kevin Gates]

Wait, so you executive producer? No bullshit.

[Steven]

Here, I'll show you.

[Kristen]

Yeah, wait. Yeah, it's a pop. It's like a pop up.

[Steven]

Wait, here, I'll show you stuff I did before.

[Kevin Gates]

What about that Taylor Swift?

[Steven]

I didn't do her songs, but I did like. Yeah, all sports.

[Chuck]

Britney Spears.

[Steven]

Yeah, yeah, I did like. And I did rap songs too.

[Kevin Gates]

What rap songs you did?

[Steven]

I did all sorts of stuff. I did a lot of Wiz's stuff back in the day. So like Wiz Khalifa. I did Kanye, some little dickies.

[Kevin Gates]

So you did that? Can we pretend that airplanes. No, I didn't do that. By showing cars.

[Steven]

No, I did. Like, who else did I do? I'd done so many people's songs.

[Kristen]

For sure, for sure. Billboard's number 8th ranked producer of the millennium.

[Kevin Gates]

So we going Billboard that. What you saying we can.

[Steven]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Kristen]

You can go number one for number one if you want.

[Steven]

I would love to go billboard with you, babe.

[Kevin Gates]

Let's go.

[Steven]

I would love to.

[Kevin Gates]

I' ma hold you to this.

[Kristen]

What's your process for writing songs? Like, do you like freestyle gibberish?

[Kevin Gates]

Do you? Man, you gonna think I'm weird. You know, I do yoga and shit and I can open my body up before I get in there.

[Kristen]

That's a little weird, but yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I burn sage in the room.

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Kevin Gates]

Like, to make the energy just calm. I think that's normal. Once I hear the beat come on, I'm a no. How do you know?

[Kristen]

Like, how do the beats get to you? What's the process? Like, you just get sent folders and you just say, play that folder. Or like, what's a you in the studio, what happens?

[Kevin Gates]

I say, let's run through a pack.

[Kristen]

And then who gives you the packs?

[Kevin Gates]

My engineer. I got an email that I get my pack sent to, but my engineer gonna open up a pack. We gonna go through them. Go through them, Go through them. I' ma know within the first three seconds.

[Kristen]

Me too, for sure.

[Steven]

Are you wearing a suit like this when you're there?

[Kevin Gates]

Sometime I have on a suit. Sometime I have on some fly yoga, some yoga shit, some comfortable shit.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Sometime I go in there with all my ice on. It depend on what mode I'm in. What do you mean?

[Steven]

You have so much ice on right now?

[Kevin Gates]

Nah, this little bitty.

[Chuck]

I like that pinky ring.

[Kristen]

So wait, when you find a beat you like and it's go time, what happens next? Do you freestyle over it and create melody gibberish?

[Kevin Gates]

I be having the melodies and the lyrics already, but I don't have the beat. So like I said, I'd be walking around like. It's gonna be difficult for you to forget me, love Mm, come get me, love it's gonna be difficult for you to forget me, love and I never found her. And I'd be like this. I had been singing this melody for maybe six months and I had a Siberian lynx. I was holding them and I was bottle feeding them.

[Chuck]

Really?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. Wait, wait.

[Kristen]

What?

[Kevin Gates]

A Siberian lynx? Is that a exotic cat? A big. His claws look like blades so you can hear him. But I was bottle feeding him and he was doing it. But it sound good to the beat.

[Kristen]

Oh, he's a high fist.

[Steven]

That's crazy.

[Kristen]

They timed it though.

[Kevin Gates]

They nudged it to the river.

[Kristen]

He was just screaming on beat and nudged it.

[Kevin Gates]

No, it only happened that once and it just. He did it three times when I Found a beat. When I found a beat, I say, this the one?

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

And I had took the bottle away from him for a little while and tried to sit him down. I'm like, damn, I can't sit him down. Cause he done already bonded with me. So he gonna think. He think I'm his mama. So I'd have picked the bitch back up. So I'm holding him. It's gonna be difficult for you to forgive me, love. And I took the bottle away for a little while. Cause you gotta be careful, he'll chew the nipples off the bottle.

[Kristen]

Uh huh.

[Kevin Gates]

He a baby? Yeah, well, he was a baby. I made that shit.

[Chuck]

Like how big is he now?

[Kevin Gates]

About your size now.

[Chuck]

Really?

[Kristen]

Well, you keep. And you still are his active father?

[Kevin Gates]

Nah, my partner got him.

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Kevin Gates]

He had our reservation.

[Kristen]

Oh, okay.

[Kevin Gates]

So bitch got them. He got tufts on. He look like a little devil when he come through.

[Kristen]

Do you think if he saw you, he remember you?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. Once they pass over with, they only gonna pair with two people. Oh, wow.

[Kristen]

That song will be even more meaningful. Cause he didn't forget you.

[Kevin Gates]

Nah, he ain't even know that. My baby.

[Chuck]

Have you gone and seen him?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

And like he's like safe. Like he's not ever gonna.

[Kevin Gates]

He ain't never been declawed none of that. I wouldn't bring you around him. I ain't slow. I don't even let people pet my dog. A lady got mad at me. It's so crazy. A lady got mad at me. Cause I got this little dog named Lil Dick.

[Kristen]

Lil Dick?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, he got an Instagram and everything.

[Chuck]

Wow.

[Kristen]

Little Dick. Yeah, what about that's his name was Lil Dick. I was almost Lil Dick, but I thought it was too on the nose.

[Kevin Gates]

Nah, I'm Dick. So he Lil Dick.

[Kristen]

What do you mean you're Dick?

[Chuck]

Oh, yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I had another dog named Dick before him.

[Steven]

Lil Dick Gates.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, that's him.

[Steven]

Oh my God. And look how cute he is.

[Chuck]

Wait, I don't have my dogs.

[Kristen]

Have you ever thought, oh, Lil Dicky. Have you ever made that connection? No.

[Kevin Gates]

Okay.

[Chuck]

And you have another. Did you just get another dog too?

[Kevin Gates]

That's the one I just got.

[Kristen]

That dog's so cute.

[Kevin Gates]

But I had one before him that was my emotional support animal. Yeah, but he my celebrate support animal. But yeah, though I was at Whole Foods and this lady was like, can I say hello? I said, he don't speak English. She was like, can I pet him? I was like, never in life. This is my child. I'm not about to Let you put your energy on my child. Because the energy that you put on a dog, it could make him sick. And you don't look like the best.

[Steven]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

She was like, can I touch him? Never in life. Hey, listen, man, with all due respect, I'm not friendly. Please.

[Kristen]

You don't have a filter.

[Kevin Gates]

Do you know what she told me? What that lady told me? What? Try to have a better rest of your life, man. My life. Great. Yeah.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I just don't want you to pet my dog. Yeah.

[Chuck]

She took it too personally.

[Kevin Gates]

It is not your dog.

[Chuck]

Yeah. I have a friend who. Somebody said, pet my dog. And then she did, and then the dog bit her.

[Kevin Gates]

I don't do that like. Cause that teach them bad habits. I don't want my dog to be friendly.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I want my dog to be.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Protective.

[Chuck]

You're supposed to.

[Steven]

Hey, bitch, I'm getting sexy.

[Chuck]

I feel like that little cute dog would say that.

[Steven]

Yeah. Hey, wait.

[Chuck]

He would say that.

[Steven]

I love when you do that. Smile when you go, I like.

[Kevin Gates]

Nah, I have a thought.

[Steven]

What was the thought?

[Chuck]

What was the thought?

[Kristen]

Say that.

[Kevin Gates]

When he was like, bitch, I'm getting sexy. I had a thought. I just.

[Steven]

What was the thought?

[Kevin Gates]

Nah. Remember earlier when I was like, you gotta put a lip. So he kind of put a lip off.

[Kristen]

But I'm like, you're teaching.

[Kevin Gates]

He getting up.

[Chuck]

Yes.

[Kevin Gates]

But sometimes you gotta play pussy.

[Steven]

Play pussy.

[Kevin Gates]

If I see some. I play pussy pretty good. If I see some bullshit coming and I'm walking on this side of the street, I'll cross the street to get out your way. You better not cross this bitch over here. Come. You better not cross over here. Come and fuck with me. Yeah, I'll cross the street to get out your way, but you better not come. I done got out your way once.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I got big nuts. Don't make me drop them.

[Steven]

Didn't you once start a car with your hands or something?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Steven]

For real?

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I ain't tell you the real secret.

[Kristen]

What's the real secret?

[Steven]

I would love to know this.

[Kevin Gates]

Put my dick on a battery and I just had to say that.

[Steven]

Dinosaur dick.

[Kevin Gates]

I just had to say that. The shit. Maybe one of the wires was loose or something. I don't know. I just was praying and I was like, God, please don't let this woman get stuck on the side of the road. Let this thing work. I jumped back in the car and it started. The Internet was like, you didn't start a car with your hand. Okay? I didn't. I didn't cool.

[Steven]

I don't know what. You know what I know.

[Kristen]

What do you know?

[Steven]

I know that.

[Chuck]

What do you know?

[Steven]

Whatever.

[Kevin Gates]

This guy's weird shit happened to me all the time.

[Kristen]

I remember the first time I met you. You probably don't remember.

[Kevin Gates]

I don't.

[Kristen]

It was at a radio show.

[Kevin Gates]

I don't remember Joe Afro. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kristen]

Well, we didn't really talk. It was just. But I was a fan and we like crossed. We were like waiting to go on.

[Kevin Gates]

I spoke?

[Kristen]

Not really. I think we said like, hey, like. I think you said like, much respect something to that nature something. But I remember watching you and thinking that you were like, intimidated. This probably goes back to what you said about big settings that aren't necessarily the best place for you because you were very guarded. Guarded, intimidating. But I would never have approached you back then. But the person I'm seeing right here looks like the sweetest man in the world.

[Kevin Gates]

But it's like that still to this day, anywhere I go, people don't approach me. Now if I'm with somebody, I look sociable, then they approach me. But if I'm just by myself, man, don't nobody come up and talk to me. If I'm at the gym, I don't have. Huh?

[Chuck]

Do you want them to fuck?

[Kevin Gates]

No.

[Chuck]

Yeah, I was gonna say, don't talk to me.

[Steven]

You drive a cool car.

[Kevin Gates]

Kinda, yeah. You know, all I have is the little. That God bless me with, but you know, yeah, I got some cool shit.

[Steven]

Have any of your friends been like, man, Cause you're always talking about your dinosaur dick. Like, are they ever like, let me see, let me see your dinosaur.

[Kevin Gates]

You was talking about my dinosaur dick.

[Steven]

You just said you. We were out there. I got a dinosaur.

[Kevin Gates]

You give me these scenarios.

[Steven]

No, he brought dinosaur dick.

[Kevin Gates]

You be giving me these scenari. You make me say shit like that when you get the like. Well, so what if. What if you be coming with these awful scenarios?

[Steven]

Don't worry, Steven.

[Kevin Gates]

It's his fault.

[Chuck]

He loves the scenario.

[Kevin Gates]

He's fucking fishing with a choir. He's with these scenario schmerials.

[Steven]

You don't like the scenario?

[Chuck]

No, I love your hyp. You love a medical scenario.

[Kristen]

He'll set you up and then he'll

[Kevin Gates]

be like, what are you doing? The scenario. He know what he doing. He trying to act like he don't know what he doing. What they call it a court. He's leading. Objection. He's leading the witness. He's leading. You lead the witness. He's leading. You Lead the Witness. You are a Witness. Leader.

[Chuck]

You are a leader.

[Steven]

She's leading.

[Kevin Gates]

Don't be sorry. You know what you doing?

[Kristen]

You want to know his favorite scenario that he asked everyone? I'm surprised.

[Kevin Gates]

What is it?

[Steven]

Oh. Oh, actually, let me ask you. What is it?

[Kristen]

You're not going to like this.

[Steven]

You ready for a scenario?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. Come on. Let's go.

[Steven]

Right here, Right here. You walk in.

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, God. I don't think I want to know what.

[Kristen]

This is a tough spot.

[Steven]

You walk into your Calabasas house. Okay.

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, not the sacred one.

[Steven]

You walk into the sacred home.

[Kevin Gates]

Oh, God.

[Steven]

And they. And all of your kids are lined up, and they're like. They're tied up. And your family's tied up. Whoever you care about's tied up.

[Kevin Gates]

Tied up.

[Steven]

And a man comes, and a man's got a gun.

[Kevin Gates]

One gun.

[Steven]

And he said, well, I don't know. He's got something you're scared of.

[Kristen]

Ten men.

[Steven]

Ten men.

[Kevin Gates]

Ten men.

[Steven]

I don't know if it's ten.

[Kevin Gates]

Ten men.

[Kristen]

Ten men.

[Kevin Gates]

10 men.

[Steven]

And one guy is like this, and he's like, I swear to God, I'm killing everyone unless you suck my dick.

[Kevin Gates]

Let's die.

[Steven]

Everyone's dying.

[Kevin Gates]

Let's die.

[Steven]

No, not everyone. Your whole family, though.

[Kevin Gates]

Let's die.

[Steven]

You're gonna kill your whole family?

[Kevin Gates]

Let's die. Yeah, fuck it.

[Steven]

What about a hand job?

[Kevin Gates]

Let's die.

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Steven]

Really?

[Kristen]

Okay.

[Kevin Gates]

Come on. Hold on.

[Kristen]

What if he was like, kiss me on my cheek or everyone's dead.

[Kevin Gates]

Let's die.

[Steven]

No, you're kissing on the cheek. You're kissing the cheek.

[Chuck]

I don't believe it. You're.

[Kevin Gates]

The worst thing a man could be is a Kawa to his own self.

[Kristen]

No, that is worse.

[Kevin Gates]

A coward dies a thousand times.

[Steven]

How?

[Kevin Gates]

Death is the most beautiful thing ever.

[Steven]

Kevin, I bonded with you so much today. If somebody. If they came in and they said

[Kevin Gates]

you would suck the dick for a dad.

[Steven]

I wouldn't suck the dick.

[Kevin Gates]

That's my fucking dog.

[Steven]

I wouldn't suck you.

[Kevin Gates]

Suck that dick. That's my dog.

[Steven]

I wouldn't suck the dick for. I don't know your family well enough, but I would definitely.

[Kevin Gates]

But for me, you would do it.

[Steven]

No, I would definitely. I would definitely let a man kiss my cheek like, no, you can't.

[Kevin Gates]

No, you can't move the goalposts. You said suck the dick for Kevin.

[Steven]

Your whole family. All your family, too. Yeah, I would do it. Wouldn't you? For him, it's five innocent people.

[Kristen]

I wouldn't have done.

[Chuck]

You would do it for Kevin. Yes, you would.

[Kristen]

I wouldn't have done it before hanging out with him, because it's like. No, no.

[Steven]

I wouldn't have either. But now you've converted me.

[Kristen]

I really don't want to.

[Steven]

I guess I would suck a dick to save your family.

[Chuck]

All of our lives. All of our lives.

[Steven]

Do you cook a lot?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Steven]

What type of shit do you cook?

[Kevin Gates]

I cook everything.

[Steven]

What's your favorite?

[Kevin Gates]

World class.

[Kristen]

Never post me.

[Kevin Gates]

Gumbo. Yeah, I done got shit I'll post.

[Chuck]

What's your go to dish thing?

[Kevin Gates]

To cook. Cook. You know them Hawaiian sweet rolls?

[Steven]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Kevin Gates]

I cut them in half. I brown them a little bit.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Put the burger on top of the. Oh, my God. I love.

[Kristen]

They're just a little small, but I love them.

[Kevin Gates]

No, you gotta take all the boy.

[Steven]

You take four. Oh, no.

[Kevin Gates]

You know how to. What do you mean?

[Steven]

It makes a whole thing.

[Kevin Gates]

You cut it. You make it one bun.

[Steven]

Yeah, you make it one bun. I've never done that.

[Kevin Gates]

One bun.

[Kristen]

I've never done that. But let's agree that it's. It's weird. It's a weird shape. It's like in and out, in and out. No, it gets small.

[Steven]

It's fine.

[Kevin Gates]

No, it's not. We talking about. Not the little. Not the little squares.

[Kristen]

Oh, what are we talking about?

[Kevin Gates]

You leave all four squares together and you have one big square.

[Chuck]

Yeah, there's.

[Kristen]

But all four squares are individualized. I know that they're attached. But there are four lumps. I can see that there's a four lumped there.

[Kevin Gates]

I know what you're talking about. Camels, though. But they're not. They're just perforated. But you just can't. I'm talking about. You take the whole knife, bring it over. I fuck with you. Bring it over. I'll fuck with you.

[Chuck]

You're not getting it.

[Steven]

Those are so old. They're moldy.

[Kristen]

Oh, yeah, there's.

[Chuck]

I'm sorry, there's mold.

[Kevin Gates]

I ain't tripping. Let me show you mold. Nah, don't worry about that. You take the knife right here.

[Kristen]

You can just rip it open if you want, man.

[Kevin Gates]

You bought these?

[Chuck]

He eats them all the time.

[Kristen]

It's me. It's me, Kevin.

[Chuck]

I don't even eat them.

[Kevin Gates]

So. You don't.

[Kristen]

It's me.

[Chuck]

I eat them sometimes.

[Steven]

I love one.

[Kevin Gates]

I take mine, baby. I fuck with you.

[Steven]

I love one.

[Kevin Gates]

Hey, you a real nigga, dawg.

[Kristen]

Thank you.

[Kevin Gates]

Hey, but look. See how this is right here on the backside.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

You take your knife and you gotta be careful. You slice down the whole thing?

[Steven]

Yeah, of course.

[Chuck]

Open it like that so it's all connected.

[Kevin Gates]

So it stay connected.

[Chuck]

It's not weird.

[Steven]

You like your Smash burger or you like it thick here?

[Kevin Gates]

It depends. Yeah, me too, it depends. What I do for my wife is she likes Smash burgers. So once I make it, I cut one of them. I cut one of the burgers in half. Yeah, yeah. And I make it like a little thinner for her. Yeah, yeah. But my shit's so juicy. Yeah, yeah, you heard me. Once you bite into that motherfucker, it's so succulent. You just gonna. I'm about flavorful.

[Steven]

I cook a lot. I have a cookbook.

[Kevin Gates]

You got a cookbook?

[Steven]

Yeah. New York Times bestseller.

[Kevin Gates]

What the fuck?

[Kristen]

Yeah, it's called Open Wide.

[Steven]

Yeah, we'll cook, we'll cook, we'll cook.

[Kevin Gates]

Open Wide.

[Kristen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Steven]

No, it is. Yeah, it is that.

[Kevin Gates]

But that's not too fucked up, dude. Fucked up.

[Steven]

That's powerful.

[Kevin Gates]

That's a fucked up dude.

[Kristen]

No, but that's.

[Kevin Gates]

That's not why you could never go nowhere with him in a serious setting.

[Steven]

No, but that's not why.

[Kevin Gates]

Cause you gotta think. Think about whenever somebody say something to

[Kristen]

me, I can't believe that humans laugh. That like all throughout the world, no matter what language you speak, if you see something funny, the human reaction is, nah.

[Kevin Gates]

If they speaking a different language about me and they all laughing, I'm gonna be like, damn. I wonder if they talk about me.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Steven]

Farting is international.

[Kevin Gates]

You know something about farting?

[Steven]

What?

[Kristen]

The word is old.

[Kevin Gates]

I never say excuse me.

[Chuck]

Neither do I.

[Kevin Gates]

Because what would you. You're supposed to. I believe that anything leave. I was taught that anything leaving a body is sacred. If you laugh, if you fart, if you cry, if you. Anything exiting the body is sacred. So I'm piss. Come God made me fart. So I'm not about to say excuse me for something that's natural.

[Steven]

You fart in front of your wife.

[Chuck]

Excuse me.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Do you ever fart and it's like a squeaky or funny sound and you like chuckle at it?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah. They did another thing. Sometime if I'm in a group setting and I fart, I just don't say nothing.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

I act like I ain't do it.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Steven]

What you do?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, did. If somebody just be like. I'd just be like, whoever smelt it, dealt it, you know where I really

[Kristen]

don't give a fuck. Is on an airplane and the airplane. The plane is like, let's have fun. Like, let's just be fun.

[Chuck]

The plane, like traps it. It's like a Dutch.

[Kevin Gates]

Oh,

[Kristen]

we're in. We're in. The ad break.

[Chuck]

What ad?

[Kristen]

What fun way to Airbnb.

[Steven]

What about Airbnb?

[Chuck]

Have you ever seen anything better than that?

[Steven]

That's insane.

[Kristen]

What is that?

[Chuck]

A cave? I honestly look at this house just to check in on it all the time.

[Kristen]

Really?

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Where is it?

[Steven]

Do you think this works for our ad right now that we're supposed to be doing?

[Kristen]

What is better than actually talking about the facts of hand of life us on Airbnb's platform booking. Beautiful wood beam ceiling.

[Steven]

Let me see the kitchen. Does it have a good kitchen?

[Chuck]

Incredible kitchen. This is literally incredible.

[Kristen]

What's the car ride duration from la?

[Chuck]

Not long at all.

[Kristen]

Would you do me a favor?

[Steven]

What?

[Kristen]

Put your feet on the ground. No one wants to see your ankles. Airbnb. Get back to the episode. We respect you.

[Chuck]

Do you remember the couch I showed you?

[Kristen]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Chuck]

I think the time has come.

[Kristen]

You want to buy it now?

[Chuck]

I think I do. I do love Wayfair.

[Kristen]

Is it easy to navigate?

[Chuck]

So it's the best app to navigate.

[Kristen]

Are you just saying that or you mean it?

[Chuck]

I'm on it right now.

[Kristen]

That's actually a beautiful. That's the catchy one.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

Well, I have to figure out what color.

[Kristen]

I love that color. That green.

[Chuck]

I know.

[Steven]

Find furniture, decor, and essentials that fit your unique style and budget.

[Chuck]

Head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home.

[Steven]

That's W-A-Y-F-A-I R.com Wayfair. Every style, every home.

[Kristen]

Sorry that we had to speed you up. You were just talking too slow.

[Steven]

Sorry. I just wanted to let everyone make sure they could type it in.

[Chuck]

I think it's good and I'll order it. Was it good?

[Steven]

Did they say it was good?

[Kristen]

That's good. Okay, we're back. Enjoy the episode, everybody.

[Kevin Gates]

See ya out.

[Kristen]

See ya.

[Kevin Gates]

Fuck you invite that energy into your home.

[Steven]

You watch mafia movies?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

What's your favorite?

[Steven]

Goodfellas.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Steven]

You like Casino?

[Kevin Gates]

Casino.

[Steven]

I love that.

[Kevin Gates]

I like Casino. I like Goodfellas. I like the Golf ball.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Chuck]

What about comedies? What's your favorite comedy?

[Steven]

Oh, Carlito's Way.

[Kristen]

Judd Apatow. Like 40 year old virgin. Knocked Up. Superbad.

[Kevin Gates]

Wait, what movie have you seen?

[Kristen]

Superbad?

[Steven]

Comedy. Comedy.

[Chuck]

You haven't seen Superbad?

[Kevin Gates]

Watch the movie. I'm an Adam Sandler type of comedy.

[Chuck]

Yeah, that's.

[Kevin Gates]

And I like, meet the fuckers, meet the parents. Your name's Gay Falker. Like, I like that witty comedy.

[Kristen]

You would like Superbad.

[Kevin Gates]

And I like Titanic.

[Chuck]

I love the Titanic.

[Kevin Gates]

I fuck with Titanic, but okay, well, I fuck with Titanic. I just ain't like, the end.

[Chuck]

He froze. He froze to death.

[Kevin Gates]

That wasn't his wife first. Gump. You just met that. I want to start fucking at her on the boat. You don't know this ho.

[Kristen]

Forrest Gump.

[Kevin Gates]

Jena. She taught me how. I taught her. She taught me how to read. I taught her how to dangle.

[Steven]

I think he could be such a better actor than any.

[Kevin Gates]

You like Forrest Gump?

[Kristen]

Yeah, man.

[Kevin Gates]

That's my. Hey, I f. With Forrest, bro.

[Steven]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

How could you not?

[Kevin Gates]

We been in this bitch a long time. We don't even fucking feel like that.

[Steven]

I know, man.

[Kevin Gates]

I oughta been left, and then I was excited, like, ooh, babe, we probably gonna be in there about an hour. We gonna go do our honeymoon shit.

[Steven]

What are you guys gonna do?

[Kevin Gates]

Hey, don't make me lie, buddy. I'm gonna do everything that I never did before.

[Kristen]

Aw, that's sweet.

[Kevin Gates]

I swear, somebody in my interview, he's like, hey, Kevin, I'm like, what up? Like, when is the last time you've done something for the first time? I said. I say, that's powerful. I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I'm a live life. Cause I know it doesn't look like it. I've been through the worst of the worst. Yeah. So I'm about to go have fun.

[Chuck]

Now's the time.

[Kristen]

I tell you.

[Kevin Gates]

Like, I love that motivational quote where that dude say, hey, mom, don't beat yourself up. You didn't make any mistakes with me. You did the best you could, but this world fucked me up. I could cry when I hit it. I could just. This world fucked me up, bro. For real. I ain't trying to get mo. I ain't trying to get mushy. Yeah, but this world fucked me up, okay?

[Steven]

To get mushy.

[Kevin Gates]

This was, like, healing for me.

[Chuck]

We like that. You love it here.

[Kristen]

Yes.

[Chuck]

That's, like, exactly what we're going for.

[Kristen]

Everything you've said about this, like, really validates what we're trying to achieve and what we're trying to do, which is

[Chuck]

like, a connect with other humans.

[Kevin Gates]

It feel like home.

[Chuck]

Yeah. And I love that you said that.

[Kevin Gates]

And it ain't. It ain't. Nah. Some places you go, it be staged. It'd Be set.

[Kristen]

Like, you see that fridge right over there?

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah.

[Kristen]

Right up against it was our first kiss.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

That's cool. Yeah. Hey, I was in jail. This was like 2010. And they had something called. Remember that Vanderpump reality show? Yeah.

[Chuck]

Vanderpump rules.

[Kevin Gates]

They was in a. I think a gray or something color Bentley. And they was riding through Napa Valley. I thought Napa Valley was in fucking Italy somewhere.

[Chuck]

It looks just the same. It looks the same.

[Kevin Gates]

They live like 45 minutes from Napa. So every time, this real talk. I hate to even say this. Cause you gonna think I'm pussy.

[Chuck]

No.

[Kevin Gates]

But I'm like. Like, every time I. This real talk. Every time I pass through Napa to go to my partnership, tears come down my eyes.

[Chuck]

Cause you're happy like that, you're.

[Kristen]

No.

[Kevin Gates]

Cause I be wanting. I'm like, I want somebody to be here with me while I'm going through Napa. Like, I wanna be in love.

[Steven]

Now you're about to do it.

[Kevin Gates]

And my team could tell you. My brother, he in there right now. He know. I always told him, my dream is to go to Napa. I'm going. It's so crazy. When we leave here, I'm going, you're

[Chuck]

gonna have the time of your life. Newlyweds.

[Kevin Gates]

Ain't nobody never. Like, I ain't come from that. Like, being loved.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Like, I was always seeking validation. Like, I was always doing everything and everything. Like, and it's deep rooted childhood trauma when you feel like you're not good enough.

[Chuck]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

But when you find your person, like when you did the work on yourself, when you know you did the work on yourself and you find your person. Like, people ask me, they be like, so what are you looking for? I don't know what I want, but I know what I don't want.

[Kristen]

Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Yeah, I know what I ain't going for.

[Chuck]

You guys are on the journey together now. Like, you gotta put yourself listen.

[Kevin Gates]

This is what I told her before we got married. I say. I say I love being around you and I love you, and I would love to continue this journey with you. That's what I told her. I said I would love to. Like, when dude called us up there, I cried, like, real tears. I never understood. I used to see people get married and they'll cry like men. Like, Like, I cried.

[Kristen]

Me too.

[Steven]

I cried a lot.

[Kevin Gates]

Like, I cried. Like. Cause I was like. And she know. I told her that. I say, this was way. This was a long time ago. I say, you my wife. I been Told her that we was on the phone, and she was like, I'm about to just get. I'm about to Uber to you so I can ride with you. And I say, come on. So when I seen her walking, we trying to find each other in the mall. When she was walking, I said, you my wife. I told her that. She know if I call in here right now, she could. Hey. She could vouch. And I don't mean to be crying right now, but, like, nah, I love it. Nah, it's.

[Chuck]

It's good.

[Kevin Gates]

Cause I gave up. Like, I ain't think I was gonna

[Chuck]

find nobody, but you can't give up on love.

[Kevin Gates]

I was like, fuck it. Like, I'm just about to live life and be happy. So I knew how to make myself happy.

[Chuck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

But it's like, it came when I stopped looking for it. Yep. I said, that's one of my prayers. I was like, thank you, God, for giving me what I needed and not what I thought I wanted. And I was like, nothing would have ever been enough.

[Chuck]

Yeah, that's like. Wasn't that, like, the biggest thing of healing is when you realize that what you just said, which is that you.

[Kevin Gates]

Rejection is protection. You don't understand it when you're going through it. You got to keep showing up every day.

[Chuck]

Well, I feel like you have done all the work, and you deserve it. And now you guys get to have a full, like, exciting honeymoon.

[Kevin Gates]

I thought we was gonna take a walk, and, like, we're doing that too.

[Kristen]

We're gonna take a walk.

[Kevin Gates]

I thought we were gonna take a

[Kristen]

walk, but they're gonna have to unmic us and everything. But before we unmic and before we finish it, we love you. I don't know what to tell you.

[Kevin Gates]

You don't have a fucking choice, dog. Just fucking. I love you up here.

[Chuck]

No, we do.

[Kevin Gates]

Hey, I swear to God, this real talk. I would have been left. Yeah, it's. No, like, it was kind of refreshing being here today.

[Kristen]

Hell, yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

You know, sometime when you go places. Yeah. It's laid back. It's a cool setting, but you be, like, this shit too structured.

[Chuck]

Yeah, something's, like, off.

[Kevin Gates]

It ain't structured. It's just, like, off.

[Kristen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Gates]

Whatever come up. Like, you forget you mic'd up in this bitch.

[Steven]

I'm, like, having a jam.

[Kevin Gates]

Did I say too much? No, I don't care.

[Steven]

It's perfect.

[Chuck]

You've given us good energy. I feel like I need this.

[Steven]

Sort of like I need one of these.

[Chuck]

I need this every day. Yeah, and I need a. Well, I want us to.

[Kristen]

Friends on three.

[Kevin Gates]

Friends. Okay.

[Steven]

One, two, three.

[Kevin Gates]

Friends. Hey, you know something, though?