The Lil Wayne Episode

Summary

Friends Keep Secrets – The Lil Wayne Episode

Host: Perfect Strangers (benny blanco, Lil Dicky/Dave Burd, Kristin Batalucco)
Guest: Lil Wayne
Date: July 21, 2026
Theme:
A free-flowing, intimate "hangout" with Lil Wayne at Dave and Kristin’s LA home, covering everything from Wayne's early days with Cash Money, creativity, sleep habits, music industry lore, rap philosophy, and UFOs to the art of cereal consumption. This episode offers a fly-on-the-wall experience with unscripted stories and deep dives into the world of one of rap’s greatest.

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Main Themes & Purpose

• Celebrating Lil Wayne: The episode is an open love letter and deep-dive into the life, mind, quirks, legacy, and creative process of Lil Wayne (“the best rapper of all time”).
• Friendship & Candidness: True to the spirit of Friends Keep Secrets, the hosts and Wayne let loose, sharing personal anecdotes, neuroses, and the joys of their craft with no formal agenda.
• Exploring Influence: The hosts, especially Benny Blanco and Lil Dicky (both lifelong Wayne fans), seek to unpack Wayne’s impact on music and culture—how he shaped generations of artists and how he keeps re-inventing himself.
• Creative Identity: Conversations about creative rituals, sleep/work habits, and artistic authenticity are candid and humorous, exploring how prolific output is tied to lifestyle, mindset, and childhood circumstance.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wayne’s Origin Story, Early Success & Family (02:23–09:00)

• Wayne joined Cash Money at age 11, discovered through persistent self-promotion and neighborhood connections.
• Lil Wayne recalls:

  “I paged him a thousand, probably 580 times... He called me back and was like, ‘Who the hell is this?’ That was the pager days.” (02:30)

• Reminisces about proving his identity to skeptical school friends and DJ Khaled’s early record store days (04:02).
• Wayne’s mother was strict about cursing—he didn’t swear in his music until 19 or 20.

  “I didn’t start cursing in my music till I was like 19, 20.” (05:20)

• Teenage fatherhood, the loss of his father, and balancing stardom with “being a smart kid” (08:00).

2. Legendary Work Ethic & Sleep (or Lack Thereof) (01:22, 21:06–22:37)

• Wayne claims he never sleeps, sees his “work” as relaxation.

  "I don't sleep ever." (21:06) "I work privately, so... my studio is my home. When you say you work, it's relaxation for me." (21:56)

• Relates his creative process to perpetual childlike joy:

  "There's still a kid in a toy store... that kid does not go to sleep." (22:36)

• Session routines: No writing lyrics, recording straight from memory, and making music since age 7 or 8 (22:08, 22:11).

3. Parenting & Full Circle Moments (12:29–13:05)

• Wayne’s youngest son raps — he refuses to judge his son’s skill, letting others decide:

  “You can’t tell yourself you’re good, but they gotta tell you you’re good.” (12:44)

• Takes his son on tour and reflects on seeing his life come “full circle.” (12:41)

4. Creativity, Artistic Discipline & Rituals (23:04–24:17; 57:01–58:59)

• Wayne always brings a microphone on vacation; studio at home is key to relaxation.
• Never writes lyrics down (“I don’t write”), instead pre-composes verses in his head:

  “I’m going to make the whole verse in my head.” (58:23)

• Motivated by the challenge of finishing every beat in a pack, no matter how tough:

  “I love to challenge myself. So even if it’s one I don’t really like, I bet you I’m gonna do something on it that’s gonna make me love it.” (57:14)

• On not feeling pressure or seeking validation:

  “A song has never been brought to me like ‘do you like this’... This is art. You just gave me your canvas and you asked me to be a part of it. Let me add what I add to it.” (40:03)

5. Influence & Legacy in Hip-Hop (33:29–36:00; 43:32–43:56)

• Dicky credits both Wayne and Drake as his core inspirations.

  “I’ve modeled my entire... the way I rap off of you and Drake.” (33:48)

• Wayne’s impact: He didn’t listen to others to avoid “bleeding” outside influences (“not listening is how you keep it original” -34:45).
• They discuss the “Lil” moniker tradition and Wayne’s role:

  “Lil Wayne was not the absolute first rapper to use ‘lil’, but he was arguably the first to turn it into a massive iconic brand that defined the modern era of hip hop.” (42:36)

6. Discovering Drake & Nicki Minaj, Building Young Money (36:50–39:11)

• The “Drake story”: Introduced by Jazz (J Prince’s son); Wayne instantly recognized his singing as the X-factor that wasn’t present in hip-hop at the time.

  “When I heard him, it was all rap... then one of those hooks came, and I was like, ‘Who's on the hook?’ That’s him singing…” (37:23)

• Nicki was discovered through Wayne’s “New York wave,” when he was seeking NY talent.
• Wayne emphasizes giving a platform for “amazing careers,” but credits the artists themselves:

  “They did the job.” (39:24)

7. Philosophy on Anxiety, Rituals, and Food (24:29–32:08)

• Anxiety for Wayne means random, “off nothing” spikes, not linked to overthinking.

  "Everybody I know that has anxiety, they think a lot.” (25:08)

• Nutrition: Unhealthy eating, same breakfast every morning, unique food rituals (e.g., barely pouring milk on cereal, avoiding “white and soft” foods).
• Hilarious debate on cereal textures and rituals.
• Unhealthy food choices are discussed openly, with laughs about never eating fruits and vegetables (30:14–30:37).

8. Pop Culture, Aliens, and Conspiracy (16:07–18:25)

• Extended riff on aliens: Wayne is a fan of "Ancient Aliens," shares the story of "J Rod" from Roswell.

  “He [J Rod] said, ‘I'm not from another planet. I'm from another time...’” (17:51)

• They riff about the meaning of “alien,” time, and Einstein moving “faster than time” (19:24).

9. On Performing, Starstruck Moments & Recurring Fandom (43:24–46:40)

• Wayne discusses being starstruck at Michael Rubin’s All-White Party, seeing his idols cut loose.
• Kobe Bryant is Wayne’s favorite basketball player.

  “Kobe, the black Mamba Bryant.” (44:14)

• First meeting with LeBron as a high schooler; Wayne’s and Benny’s starstruck anecdotes.
• Lil Dicky and Benny recount seeing LeBron dance at a party (“the air was shifting” -44:35).

10. Rap Game, Features, and Mixtape Era (58:59–61:10)

• Lil Wayne on legacy, friendly competition, and being inspired to "turn it up" by features from Drake.
• Discussion about the point where Wayne went from “good rapper” to “the best rapper,” the impact of the mixtape era (squad tapes, “10,000 bars”).

  “Once I put out 10,000 bars, I started being...” (60:58)

• Admits to coining “bling,” added to the dictionary (61:10).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Making a Living in Rap:

• "I'm very blessed with my talent, but more blessed to actually get to do it, and make a living and make a life out of it."
  – Lil Wayne (32:54)

On Influence & Originality:

• “Not listening is how you, you know, is how you keep it original.”
  – Lil Wayne (34:45)

On Creativity As Play:

• “There's still a kid in a toy store... that kid does not go to sleep.”
  – Lil Wayne (22:36)

On Discovering Drake:

• "When I heard him, he was... it was all rap. And then, you know, one of those hooks came, and I was like, who's on the hook? It was like, that's him... that's the guy."
  – Lil Wayne (37:23)

On Features & Competition:

• “If it's not a singing song, if [Drake’s] rapping on it, of course that's how you like... that's what you aim for. But that's come from... being in a group.”
  – Lil Wayne (59:15)

On Starstruck Moments:

• “I went to the All White party... I kind of felt like I was like this what they be. I had never seen... I seen everybody.”
  – Lil Wayne (43:24)

On Cereal Rituals:

• “I put milk in it. I just can't look at it... I want to eat it fast to where the bottom ain't even soaked.”
  – Lil Wayne (29:22–29:36)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Wayne’s Childhood and Cash Money Origins: 02:23–09:00
• Sleepless Work Ethic: 21:06–22:37
• Parenting and Sons in Rap: 12:29–13:05
• Music Creation Rituals (Writing/Recording): 22:08, 57:01–58:59
• Discovering Drake & Nicki Minaj: 36:50–39:11
• Philosophy of Originality: 33:29–36:00
• Alien Theory, Pop Culture: 16:07–18:25
• Rituals and Anxiety: 24:29–25:47
• Mixtape Shift to GOAT Era: 60:06–61:10
• Starstruck Encounters: 43:24–46:40

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Flow & Tone

The conversation is playful, loose, and reverential but often insightful and emotionally grounded. Everyone jokes about their quirks, celebrates creativity as a gift and compulsion, and expresses awe at the scale of Wayne’s legacy. The hosts’ genuine fandom (and Wayne’s gracious humor and humility) set a tone of respect, fun, and lots of laughter.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a must-listen for die-hard fans and anyone curious about the mind behind a rap legend: you'll learn about Wayne’s relentless discipline, quirky lifestyle, family roots, the creation of Drake and Nicki Minaj’s careers, the true story of the “Lil” in hip-hop, and why cereal texture can be a hot topic. Between philosophical riffs on aliens and stories of star-struck moments, you get a rare, real portrait of Wayne and the friends who revere him.

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If you want just one phrase to sum it up: pure, unguarded hip-hop joy with the GOAT.

Transcript

[Interviewer Alex]

The untouchable man. But he's more than his fame.

[Lil Dicky]

The untouchable, the unflappable.

[Lil Wayne]

The best rapper of all time.

[Lil Dicky]

One of them, no question. We got Wayne.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, guys, I can't even begin to tell you what type of day this is for me.

[Lil Dicky]

You've been waiting for Wayne.

[Benny Blanco]

I've been waiting for Wayne your whole life. This might. You might see. My body might disintegrate. I don't even know what's going to happen.

[Interviewer Alex]

Are you going to turn into Alex Mack?

[Benny Blanco]

What?

[Interviewer Alex]

You know, where you turn into the Capri sun and you go under the door?

[Lil Dicky]

I never watched the Nickelodeon. Is it Nickelodeon?

[Benny Blanco]

Is it Alex Mack?

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah, maybe.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, it's like a famous, like, kids teen bopper.

[Interviewer Alex]

You turn into Alex Mack. No, it's a she. And you turn into the Capri sun type material and you disintegrate. And you can go under doors and through walls and stuff.

[Lil Wayne]

You. Oh, my God.

[Lil Dicky]

Considering.

[Benny Blanco]

Who is that?

[Lil Dicky]

Hey.

[Lil Wayne]

Who? Oh, that was just me.

[Benny Blanco]

You're good, brother. Are you the original Lil.

[Lil Dicky]

You're the godfather of everything I listen to.

[Lil Wayne]

We can move faster than time.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, I can't even see.

[Lil Wayne]

Oh, she's gonna get that con, like doing drinks. I heard that.

[Benny Blanco]

Amazon, you went from here as a

[Lil Wayne]

rapper to like, me, hands down.

[Interviewer Alex]

Do you really not sleep?

[Lil Wayne]

No, I don't. No.

[Benny Blanco]

What the fuck?

[Interviewer Alex]

Oh, my God.

[Lil Wayne]

What the fuck just happened?

[Benny Blanco]

Exactly.

[Lil Wayne]

I'm kicking it with y'.

[Benny Blanco]

All.

[Lil Wayne]

We in your career, Wayne, you know

[Lil Dicky]

where the best seat in the house is?

[Lil Wayne]

What's that?

[Lil Dicky]

It's right here.

[Lil Wayne]

That's good.

[Lil Dicky]

I want you to have it.

[Lil Wayne]

Appreciate it. Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Water, you want anything?

[Lil Wayne]

I'm good, bro. Thank you.

[Lil Dicky]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

We got all sorts of treats.

[Interviewer Alex]

I'm so happy that we just get to sit down right away. Now.

[Lil Wayne]

Let's kick you.

[Interviewer Alex]

Sometimes Dave makes us stand for hours.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, I look at the stuff.

[Lil Wayne]

Actually, I stand a lot, actually.

[Lil Dicky]

You stand a lot?

[Lil Wayne]

I stand a whole lot.

[Lil Dicky]

Do you stand when you rap?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Have you ever sat when you rapped?

[Lil Wayne]

No, I. And I actually tried it. Nah, only for videos.

[Lil Dicky]

I used to only sit when I rapped. Really?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Because.

[Lil Wayne]

No, it's a real awkward thing. Like, it's a skill. You can't. Yeah, it's a skill. I only have, like. I only know, like, about two or three people that knows how to do it.

[Benny Blanco]

I have one. There's one artist, Sia, she only sings lang down on her back.

[Lil Wayne]

Really?

[Benny Blanco]

It's crazy when she writes the songs.

[Lil Wayne]

That's not weird. I'VE seen that before.

[Interviewer Alex]

Really?

[Lil Wayne]

I've seen that before, yes.

[Benny Blanco]

I have a question. Weren't you like 11 when you joined the group or something?

[Lil Wayne]

When I first signed with Cash boy, you were 11?

[Lil Dicky]

How did they find you at 11?

[Lil Wayne]

They had an artist that was from my hood, and I would always bother him all day in the hood rapping. And he would always tell me that, I'mma tell baby about you. I'm gonna tell baby about you. So they had an autograph signing at a record store. And when I got to him, I was like, I want your fucking autograph. And he was like, little badass. And he like, hold on, baby. This little nigga I was telling you about. And I was like, you really talking about me? You know what I mean? I was like, I thought you was lying, nigga. He was like. He said, come here. He asked me to rap. I rapped for him. He liked it. He gave me a card, had like two numbers on there, a pager and an office number. Paged him a thousand, probably 580 times. And he called me back. And then when he called me back, you know, he was first, he was just like, who the hell is this? Yeah, you know what I mean? Those pager days, like, who the hell does this keep pagering me? And I was like, this Lil Wayne, the guy, the dude you met, he's like, oh, okay, what's up? And then my mom knew him, so I was like, you know my mom and my mom name is Sita, so it's pretty unique. So I was like, my mom, he like Sita. And I was like, he like, nigga, Sita, your mama for real? And I was like, yeah. So they had a good, good talking and all that, and so it was all good from there.

[Benny Blanco]

11, though.

[Lil Wayne]

11.

[Interviewer Alex]

So 11, you've just been since 11, you've been off?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. DJ Khaled was working at that, right? Oh, the radio station at that record store.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, he was working at the record store.

[Interviewer Alex]

Wait, what?

[Lil Wayne]

Before radio behind the counter.

[Benny Blanco]

That's crazy.

[Lil Wayne]

He was the guy that.

[Lil Dicky]

Was he there that day?

[Lil Wayne]

Yes. Later on he would. After I got. With cash money and we put our first. Me and. Me and BG, we put our first album out. I was only 12 by then. My friends in school wouldn't believe me because the album cover didn't have no pictures on it. It just had BG's true story. And I was only on three song songs of the album. And so they didn't believe it was me. So I had to. We would wait I wait all the way to after school, walk the. I have a whole group of. Who I've been talking to all day, who don't believe me, all walk straight to the. To the record store. And Callie would be in there. Cause he already know I do it so much. He already knew what I'm coming there to do. So he would be like, he already know what I'm doing. So I bring these niggas all the way to that aisle. Cash Money had so many artists, they had their own aisle. Flip it over. Once they see it, say, D. Carter. You know what I mean? They know that's the only way I used to be able to prove to these niggas that it was me, mind you, because they can't listen to it because them parents don't allow them to listen to. Yeah, they can't even listen.

[Benny Blanco]

Wait, did your parents let you listen

[Lil Wayne]

to your own thing?

[Lil Dicky]

Let him listen to his own music.

[Benny Blanco]

Let me explain.

[Lil Wayne]

Is that a real notion, Jimmy? I couldn't cuss, though.

[Benny Blanco]

Let me.

[Interviewer Alex]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

He couldn't cuss at the beginning?

[Lil Wayne]

No.

[Interviewer Alex]

Your mom would be like, you can't cuss?

[Lil Dicky]

No, you didn't do it. When did you start cursing?

[Lil Wayne]

I didn't start cursing in my music till I was like 19, 20.

[Lil Dicky]

You went five years of.

[Benny Blanco]

You didn't know that?

[Lil Dicky]

No, I didn't know that.

[Lil Wayne]

I went like 20, 21.

[Lil Dicky]

Wow. I was one of the latest of my friends to start cursing.

[Benny Blanco]

I'll tell you socially, when I first got on before, when I was an artist and I just started making beats, there was this guy who had this like soft core porn series called Hip Hop Honeys.

[Lil Wayne]

Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

And he was like my.

[Lil Wayne]

Damn.

[Benny Blanco]

He was my third. He was my first mentor. And he owned the Source magazine before Benzino and basically. Yeah, his name's Jonathan Schechter.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

And what he did, I heard that nigga name is. Yeah. So that was my first mentor. And he signed me. He was the first person to sign me. And then what happened was he put me on the thing and then he sent me all these copies. And my mom took them away from me. She wouldn't let me show them to my friend. Cause it was just like a porno. Like I would invite all my friends over to watch it, and then my mom took it away.

[Lil Dicky]

Did you any trouble convincing your friends that you did the music?

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? No one believed me. Even when it said Benny Blanco. Cause that's not my real name. So nobody believed me.

[Lil Dicky]

Nor is it A character you created.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. No one believed me. My wife, she stopped school when she was like 14 or 15 because the school said you can't be in school anymore because you're like, too. You're too famous. Yeah. Like, you're like, you can't be in school anymore. You're a distraction.

[Lil Wayne]

It was the same. My school didn't tell me that, but my mom, she was just like, you know, it really don't make no sense.

[Lil Dicky]

So you're like, in the videos and doing all the things and then you're

[Lil Wayne]

going back to, like.

[Lil Dicky]

Yes. Oh, my God.

[Benny Blanco]

Are people, like, losing their minds?

[Lil Wayne]

Not because New Orleans too small.

[Interviewer Alex]

Were you bummed or were you relieved to, like, kind of not have to do school?

[Lil Wayne]

It was both. Because the day my mom told me that I didn't have to go to school anymore, the day she told me that, I still went to school. Really? Yeah. But I went to school with a different attitude.

[Lil Dicky]

Hell yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

I went to school total different.

[Benny Blanco]

Were girls chasing you down? Like, could you even, like, get into class?

[Lil Wayne]

Yes. Because at that time, I was with my first. The first mother of my kids, my daughter Reginae's mom, Toya. And Toya ain't play that shit, so, period. They could chase me down all they want. All she gotta do is turn around and look at em. They will stop chasing. Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Cause you had your first kid when you were how old?

[Lil Wayne]

I was 14.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, 14. So four. Oh, my God. 14. I'm trying.

[Lil Dicky]

My kid came at you fast at age 14. Oh my God.

[Benny Blanco]

Were you nervous? Like 14 with the.

[Lil Wayne]

Not because my mom asked. Yeah, my mom asked for my kid. Yeah. My dad had just got murdered that year. The same year I blew up.

[Interviewer Alex]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lil Wayne]

So I went on. We was already local. Like you said, I was a local rapper forever. So we would go on a tour back then. Before that would be me going on weekend shows and coming back home for the week and going to school. We got the universal deal. And I was like, we have a tour coming up. And when I went on that tour, we was on the road for like, six months.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you serious?

[Lil Wayne]

Like six months. And so she was. When I came home, she was like, is this is what you're about to be doing? You know? She was like, should I be expecting that? She was like, you were gone for too long. She was like, I'm lonely. She's like, my husband's gone. And so she was like, listen, let's have a sit down. Me, you, and Toya. And so we had to sit down. I love that.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you real close with your mom?

[Lil Wayne]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

That's my best.

[Lil Wayne]

So we had to. Exactly.

[Benny Blanco]

That's great.

[Lil Dicky]

Were you, like, doing like, school homework on the.

[Lil Wayne]

On the. You were doing like.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my God, that's crazy. What? I would have just been like, fuck it.

[Lil Wayne]

No, I've been. I've been a. Thank God. I've been a real. I was always a real smart kid, so she always held me to it. Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Did you have a crazy car?

[Lil Wayne]

No. My first car was a Pathfinder. Nissan Pathfinder.

[Lil Dicky]

Love that.

[Interviewer Alex]

What year?

[Lil Wayne]

Cause I just saw it. Yeah, I think it was like. I think it was like a 94 or something like that.

[Lil Dicky]

My first car was a Toyota Camry. My second car was a Honda Accord, and, boy, that I love that car.

[Lil Wayne]

My second was a Lexus coupe, but from the guy who sold it was his old car, the guy from the niece. It was literally the Nissan dealers. The way. Oh, really? Listen, listen. The way the dealership is set up, you know, he got his little office. He had a corner office.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

So, you know, he got it settled to it. He got his. He parks right by his office. Yeah. You know what I mean? So his car is right outside his office. We in there. I'm trying to trade my Pathfinder in. I'm literally been there for like two hours. And so he see me just keep looking. He like, so you like that? I was like, yeah, I love it. But that's that. And he had rims on it. He had 17. He had these rims that we called them fat boys. He was like, you like. Like, you know what, Wayne? I was just about to get rid of that bitch. He like, I might well get. I worked a deal out. You could have it. I don't. You don't need to sit here while I'm doing the paperwork. Let me get my shit out of there. Grab this stuff out of there.

[Benny Blanco]

That's crazy. Did you keep buying shit from him, though? Over the years? It was a good business.

[Lil Wayne]

What are you talking about?

[Lil Dicky]

To this day?

[Benny Blanco]

You're talking about him right now. What's his name?

[Lil Wayne]

Greg Green. Good move, Greg.

[Lil Dicky]

That proved to be the right movie.

[Lil Wayne]

What's his nickname? He became my Uncle Greg. What's his nickname, though?

[Interviewer Alex]

What? Okay.

[Benny Blanco]

Yes, yes.

[Lil Wayne]

He just says. He just always thought, she's gonna get that Con

[Benny Blanco]

kfc. Popcorn chicken's back. Get popcorn chicken while you can at KFC. $10 a bucket.

[Interviewer Alex]

You're really eating it like it's popcorn, Chuck.

[Benny Blanco]

You're eating it like that meme. Well,

[Lil Dicky]

I guess I am, now that I look at how I am.

[Benny Blanco]

I mean, it's fun how I am,

[Lil Dicky]

but how I am is because I simply just like eating it. And I guess I'm alert because I like it so much and I'm popping it.

[Lil Wayne]

I guess I've fallen victim to the popcorn chicken.

[Lil Dicky]

I guess I have.

[Benny Blanco]

Get popcorn chicken while you can at KFC in the $10 bucket.

[Interviewer Alex]

I am very excited about it. Fuck,

[Lil Dicky]

it's a white claw summer. I love mango. You like peach, I'm sure. I know you like black cherry.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, now let me just tell you what we're gonna be doing. This is filled with the best jams of the 90s and 2000s. Picture US sliding on a boat. Maybe I'm on a jet ski. I could be on, like a. Like a wakeboard or a pontoon boat. Chuck, you ever been on a jet ski?

[Lil Wayne]

I have. I don't like speed.

[Interviewer Alex]

You ever gone tubing?

[Benny Blanco]

I haven't.

[Interviewer Alex]

I like speed. You ever gone wakeboarding?

[Lil Dicky]

I went tubing one time. It was going so fast, it whipped around. I fell in the water in my bathing suit, got sucked off my body. I had to return to shore naked.

[Lil Wayne]

Really?

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I love Sawyer.

[Lil Dicky]

Also use a dsp, a streaming platform. Who uses a flash drive for a playlist? Please drink responsibly. Hard Seltzer with Flavors. White Cloth Seltzer Works, Chicago, Illinois.

[Lil Wayne]

The latest one I got was. Once I found out that what it was Ferrari. Ferrari Made a truck. I had to get that. So I got.

[Benny Blanco]

I don't even know anything about my. Like, if you ask me, it's never moved.

[Interviewer Alex]

When you go outside to your house and you see that Ferrari truck, do you like what you see?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

That's all. And my son raps now, my youngest. So now he's already shot, like, videos.

[Lil Dicky]

What's that like for you to see your son become a rapper right in front of your very eyes. How does that.

[Lil Wayne]

Oh, man. Full circle. Like seeing yourself.

[Benny Blanco]

Is he good?

[Lil Wayne]

I mean, to the masses. I don't judge. I let him know neither. You can't tell yourself you good, but they gotta tell you you're good.

[Benny Blanco]

Hey, wait. Do you ever rock with him?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. Hell, you did. I took him on tour.

[Benny Blanco]

That's crazy.

[Lil Wayne]

Cause the nigga was doing shows before I took him on tour. He was doing his own shows and. Yeah. So I was like, you might as well just come on tour with me, man.

[Benny Blanco]

I was just thinking, you know, so much of my life, like. And it's so funny. Cause, like, I'm in the industry now, but so much of my life, like, I know exactly where I was when I heard certain songs you put out in my whole life, like, so much, it was so important to me.

[Lil Wayne]

I don't even remember making.

[Benny Blanco]

I know, I know. That's the crazy.

[Lil Wayne]

I literally don't even. I still don't even. I did a whole joint in June. I was just talking about it the other day, and I said, you better ask me what song it was.

[Interviewer Alex]

How did you do it? In jail. You just wrote it and then you recorded it after.

[Lil Wayne]

On the phone. I went to the studio every night. I went to the studio every night in jail.

[Benny Blanco]

Every night there was a studio in

[Lil Wayne]

jail at my cell. That made everybody be quiet. I'm about to beat on this damn table.

[Benny Blanco]

And they let you.

[Lil Wayne]

They was all older. They didn't care. And also, there was a rule. If you get on the phone, if you're a conversation, we all lock in at 10:45. But if your conversation that was on the phone started before that time, you can stay out. So we would do that. So therefore, everybody gotta lock in. And now it's empty and it's just me on the phone. So I can actually record with no sound.

[Lil Dicky]

Could they all hear?

[Lil Wayne]

Nah, they wasn't trying to hear the CEO. Cause he was. You know, New York, they love rap. So my CEO, the CEO, he definitely wanted to hear it all day. I was actually with. He was my. What Just sounded like he was my ear.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, wow.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

That's amazing.

[Benny Blanco]

Was jail ever scary, though? Because, like. Because you. I feel like you had, like, such a target. Cause everyone knew who you were.

[Lil Wayne]

I wasn't around that. I wasn't around people.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, you weren't?

[Lil Wayne]

I was in PC with all the, like, the crazy people.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. Did you do that on purpose?

[Lil Wayne]

Nah. They put you there. You ain't even gotta ask.

[Benny Blanco]

So they won't. Even if you're too big, like, they're

[Lil Wayne]

not gonna put you around.

[Lil Dicky]

And that's because you were a famous person.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

So like R. Kelly, all them, like, they're put in a separate thing.

[Lil Wayne]

I don't know. Because they got real time.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh. So if you're. Yeah. Because you were there for, like, I had a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Was it one of the worst years of your life or not even.

[Lil Wayne]

Not at all. But I have. I have to give all that thanks. Thanks and credit to those people that were around me in there. Those people just made it. They made it their Job to make it easy for me.

[Lil Dicky]

That's amazing.

[Interviewer Alex]

How would you get through each day? I'd be like, I would do any. Like, do you just think about.

[Lil Wayne]

You just try to make them shorter until you get affiliated. And I mean, that's when you start. You get tired of trying to make your day shorter.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

And that's when you just start finally, just, man, what y' all watching? You know what I mean? What we watching, man?

[Interviewer Alex]

What did you guys watch?

[Lil Wayne]

Naked and Afraid.

[Lil Dicky]

That's a good show, though. That's a good show.

[Lil Wayne]

And they don't. They not watching it? You think they watching it? Cause they thinking a female on that naked. Nah, they know the fucking storyline. Yeah, they know everything.

[Interviewer Alex]

The human spirit.

[Lil Dicky]

It's a good idea for a show.

[Benny Blanco]

They never. But no one was ever like, hey, Wayne, what do you want to watch?

[Lil Wayne]

Like, oh, no, they already know. Yeah, they already know. They already know. Oh, and you can cut the game on. He already know.

[Interviewer Alex]

Do you just do sports all day?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

You watch anything else but sports?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. Ancient Aliens. Ooh, I love it.

[Interviewer Alex]

Did you see that documentary about. Dave loves to talk about it. It was on like. What was it called? The Age of Disclosure. What did you think about it? Did you like it?

[Lil Wayne]

I mean, I love everything about ancient aliens, but that. That episode, Asia Disclosure, that's when they exposing everything that the government and military.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah, yeah, he watched it, and I'm not kidding for like, two weeks straight. All he would say is, can I talk to you guys about the Age of Disclosure?

[Lil Dicky]

Well, the fascinating thing about aliens, which. It's just that, like, I feel like if an alien came down and was visible and caught on camera, like, walking up to the White House and knocking, it would just shift humanity's, like, fundamental paradigm so dramatically. So it's like this event that can change everything. And there's so many people that have. That are like, we've seen it, it's happened, but it's never been captured in full way. But I feel like, how could there not be aliens in general?

[Benny Blanco]

Of course.

[Lil Wayne]

Definitely.

[Lil Dicky]

There has to.

[Lil Wayne]

Of course. We also have to understand what an alien is.

[Lil Dicky]

Please.

[Lil Wayne]

You know what I'm saying? None of us know. So what I'm saying is saying that to say we have. We don't know what. We don't even know if they're from another planet.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, we don't know anything.

[Lil Wayne]

The only alien that we supposedly knew was the one from Roswell that lived. J Rod.

[Lil Dicky]

I don't. I didn't know his name was J Rod.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah, I don't know about him.

[Lil Dicky]

How do you get the name J Rod?

[Lil Wayne]

They said. I think they may have named him and they said he. J Rod said that. Whatever said that when. Say he. When they would ask, you know, because it's supposedly they was, you know, trying to get him back to where the hell he's from.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

If he lived, you know, like trying to say, I'm not from another planet. He said, I'm from. I'm from. I'm from another time.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

And so he was from another. He said. He said that your world will end in a cataclysm. And most. Some people will make it. A lot of people will. And they'll. They'll have to go move within. Go with. Move. Live within the planet, basically. Go like. Like ants.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

And that civilization, you know, that time will last so long that we'll adapt to living there.

[Lil Dicky]

Right.

[Lil Wayne]

And just like we adapt to everything else, we're going to start adapting to being an insect. And just like an insect. And we're devoid of light. That's why aliens eyes are so big.

[Interviewer Alex]

Oh.

[Lil Wayne]

Because they're different. They don't. Whatever they came from, there's no light. And it's. The atmosphere is so dense. That's why they don't grow. That's why they don't grow too tall. Because the atmosphere don't allow them to. They don't eat the same food. That's why they don't get so big like that.

[Lil Dicky]

How do you know all this information? Where's you just like YouTube videos and whatnot.

[Lil Wayne]

I don't do YouTube.

[Lil Dicky]

How do you find this stuff? You got a guy on the inside?

[Lil Wayne]

No.

[Benny Blanco]

Would you get on a spaceship right now or like.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

If they were like, hey, I didn't

[Lil Wayne]

know where they were going. Moon, Mars.

[Lil Dicky]

It's so far away, isn't.

[Benny Blanco]

It isn't.

[Lil Dicky]

Mars doesn't take like years.

[Lil Wayne]

Like they gonna figure that out.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah. They're not ready though.

[Interviewer Alex]

I don't think it takes years.

[Lil Dicky]

It takes a while. Elon Musk said something about the whole thing is taking longer than they thought because of the amount of time.

[Interviewer Alex]

But I thought time like becomes not a thing once you get past a certain point.

[Lil Dicky]

Well, Mars might not be involved in that.

[Lil Wayne]

Me. What is it?

[Interviewer Alex]

Because time is just. Time isn't real.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'm saying if we move fast enough, though, we can move faster than time.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

And then time isn't a thing.

[Interviewer Alex]

How to do that sort of fast

[Lil Wayne]

thing well, Einstein figured it out. We just ain't paying him no mind when he told us, and he told us that he figured it out by just. It was raining and he was just looking up at a light at a. At a. At a flat, at a street post, and he. He turned his head real fast, you know, just like. And did if. And noticed that when he kept doing. He noticed stuff start slowing down when he did that, the faster he did it. So he figured it out. He figured it out. Like, wait, if I was in something that could move fast, I probably can actually move faster than time.

[Lil Dicky]

If you had the option right now to be taken away by somebody and learn all of the facts there are to know about everything. Whatever you want to know about aliens.

[Benny Blanco]

Aliens, whatever we want.

[Lil Dicky]

The past, the present, the different times, the just. You get all the information you could possibly have, but you only have one month to live. You learn everything. You have no more curiosity because you know everything. But in a month, you die. But you still have a month to convey all the information, tell the world all the facts. Do you do it? Or do you choose to live, like another 40 years and have fun on

[Lil Wayne]

Earth or however long oh, you ain't? So that's the alternative. You get to live another 40 years without telling people.

[Lil Dicky]

No, no, you live without any of the facts.

[Benny Blanco]

You don't know if you either live

[Lil Wayne]

a normal life, another 40. I'll do that one. Because most likely I'm not. I won't be. I'll have too many answers to that would have happened after that month.

[Interviewer Alex]

I like that.

[Lil Wayne]

That's a different way.

[Lil Dicky]

Smart way to think about it.

[Lil Wayne]

I'd probably be packing. Yeah, definitely, because I know exactly where I'm going.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

One month to get your fares for the next phase.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, he might be out in the week.

[Lil Wayne]

Exactly.

[Benny Blanco]

Do you find it hard to sleep at night?

[Lil Wayne]

I don't sleep ever.

[Lil Dicky]

You don't sleep?

[Lil Wayne]

Because I work so much.

[Benny Blanco]

What time do you go to bed?

[Lil Wayne]

I don't have a time.

[Interviewer Alex]

Well, wait, do you really not sleep?

[Lil Wayne]

No, I don't.

[Benny Blanco]

I don't.

[Lil Dicky]

How many hours?

[Interviewer Alex]

Tell me about this. Cause I feel like I've had trouble sleeping. What do you do? So are you up from, like, let's say it's like midnight? You're like, okay, I'm gonna try to lay down and go to bed.

[Lil Wayne]

No, no, no.

[Interviewer Alex]

So you're never trying to lay down

[Lil Wayne]

and go to bed?

[Lil Dicky]

You never get into bed ever?

[Lil Wayne]

No.

[Lil Dicky]

You never get into bed?

[Lil Wayne]

No.

[Benny Blanco]

You know, Lil Uzi, I wanna Tell you something so crazy that Lil Uzi goes. He was at the studio with. And he goes and he sits in his car and they drive him around for two hours and that's when he sleeps. And then he just comes back to the studio.

[Lil Dicky]

Do you ever sleep when you're being driven?

[Lil Wayne]

Nah, I don't know that life.

[Lil Dicky]

How do you relax awake?

[Interviewer Alex]

How do you relax? Like, how do you like, you have to have, like. When are you like. You know what I'm saying?

[Lil Wayne]

I work privately, so you know, like. Meaning my studio is my home.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

And so when you say you work, it's relaxation for me.

[Interviewer Alex]

Are you working 24 7?

[Lil Wayne]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

But you napped though, right?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Interviewer Alex]

Because you are writing 24 7.

[Lil Wayne]

I don't write.

[Benny Blanco]

No, he doesn't write anything.

[Lil Dicky]

Recording? Yes, recording.

[Lil Wayne]

You have to understand that I signed my first contract at 11, started doing this around seven or eight. There's not one second. Has it been the job? Yeah, it's been so long.

[Interviewer Alex]

It's like how you experience the world.

[Lil Wayne]

It's something. I actually made a living out of it. I just told you, I started at 7 8. So I'm doing what I started at 7 8. Yeah. There's still a kid in a toy store.

[Interviewer Alex]

You're still so happy.

[Lil Wayne]

That kid does not go to sleep. Yeah, that's the last thing that kid wants. Like, what bedtime do you feel like?

[Lil Dicky]

I like, feel, and I do really have a lot of fun, but I also feel the weight of the. And I don't mean this negatively, but I feel like I can make so much great art. And most of the time I've ever done vacations, I feel guilty for not like waking up every day and applying my talent to my craft.

[Lil Wayne]

Oh, you have to do your vacations differently. I just came from vacation.

[Lil Dicky]

You bring a microphone, I went to hell.

[Lil Wayne]

I bring my microphone. Hell yeah. That's. I pick my vacation that way, meaning my vacation is for the view. Have to consider my significant other. So it's something she would love while I'm doing what I do and things like that.

[Interviewer Alex]

That would be me.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. So I take vacations that way. Meaning I go to things. I go to places like Aspen a lot.

[Lil Dicky]

I gotta be honest, I'm nothing like you. I wish I was like you, even a little bit as a rapper. I'm like, I can't clap unless I'm totally in my comfort zone.

[Lil Wayne]

You think vacation would be a comfort?

[Benny Blanco]

No, he has like, I need to

[Lil Dicky]

like, have my eq, right. And like, I'm like, Such a pussy when it comes to being.

[Lil Wayne]

You keep an engineer or you do it yourself?

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, I do it all myself.

[Lil Wayne]

Me too. So, yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

And I don't know, like, for me, sometimes it's hard unless I'm like, really? Like, I brought a microphone when we went to Hawaii on our honeymoon and I, you know, there were some good gibberish, melody type things, but I can't really write lyrics unless I'm, like, in front of my computer.

[Lil Wayne]

Gotcha.

[Lil Dicky]

Like 9:00am Gotcha. You know, not even high. Like, I do all my freestyles to understand, like, the cadence, the melody, all that high. And then I wake up and I can't write the lyrics in the head space that I kept the melody. So I have to totally divide those two things completely.

[Lil Wayne]

Wow, that's a lot.

[Interviewer Alex]

I like weed drinks.

[Lil Wayne]

What's a weed drink?

[Interviewer Alex]

You never had a weed drink?

[Benny Blanco]

It's scary.

[Lil Wayne]

What's that twist? I don't really fuck with it, but. Yeah, they doing it now.

[Benny Blanco]

You ever get anxiety?

[Lil Wayne]

No, never.

[Benny Blanco]

You never.

[Lil Wayne]

You know what? Probably before a show, I'm nervous. My stomach.

[Benny Blanco]

Shit.

[Lil Wayne]

Before show, every time I would get by.

[Benny Blanco]

You've never been, like, so high or drunk or fuck and been like, oh, my God, I think my heart's gonna stop. Like, I feel like I'm dying.

[Lil Wayne]

That's too good, that drug. Too good. Whatever. That was. Too good. Too good of a drug, Right.

[Benny Blanco]

Sometimes I get anxious when I can't go to when if I know I have to be up really early for something and I haven't gone to sleep yet and I'm like, shit.

[Lil Wayne]

You think a lot. That's all. That's what anxiety is.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. I say, I only got two more hours. I gotta fall.

[Lil Wayne]

What would you think?

[Benny Blanco]

And then I don't usually fall asleep.

[Lil Wayne]

Everybody I know that has anxiety, they think a lot.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I think a lot.

[Lil Dicky]

I think a lot, too.

[Benny Blanco]

I think so.

[Lil Wayne]

That's not what it is, everybody. I know that. You just think a lot. That's a great thing. I've never found nothing wrong with that.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, I think it's useful. I think it pushes me to be productive and to be thoughtful.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, but I could fall asleep.

[Lil Wayne]

Mine come out. I have. I get anxiety out of nowhere. So it's uncontrolled anxiety. That's why I don't call it anxiety.

[Lil Dicky]

What is it? How does it manifest itself?

[Lil Wayne]

That's what I'm saying.

[Benny Blanco]

Is it like it's just out of nowhere and you feel what?

[Lil Wayne]

You feel like getting hot or sweaty or something?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's anxiety.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

So you do get.

[Lil Wayne]

I don't know, but it's like off of nothing.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, me too. I don't understand the reason why.

[Lil Wayne]

I don't know if that's what it was.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah. That's anxiety.

[Lil Dicky]

You think?

[Lil Wayne]

I don't know.

[Benny Blanco]

Yes, it is. That's what.

[Lil Dicky]

I'd just be fatigue.

[Benny Blanco]

I have to have it so cold when I'm sleeping. I hate.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

What do you have the thermostat to when you sleep? He doesn't even sleep.

[Lil Wayne]

We do 60. Only with my girl there. Yeah, 60.

[Lil Dicky]

It's cold as shit.

[Lil Wayne]

When you said sleep, though.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, sleep.

[Lil Dicky]

60's freezing.

[Benny Blanco]

Me, too. 60, 60, 65.

[Lil Dicky]

You think 60 is really cold, right? Yeah, I'm like 69, 70.

[Benny Blanco]

No.

[Lil Wayne]

Oh, no.

[Benny Blanco]

65 when I sleep. But during the day, I want it warm. Like, not warm, but, like, not.

[Lil Wayne]

You know, I come from 20 years in Miami. Yeah, you gotta have your shit on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I like it so cold that if I go to the bathroom, I have to run to the bathroom. Cause I'm freezing. That's what I like. My room.

[Lil Wayne]

That man. That man. Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. I want a blanket on, too.

[Lil Wayne]

Your boy off of Sixth Sense?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

Remember when he had to go to the bathroom?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Lil Dicky]

Kelly Joel Osman.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. You remember we had to walk to the bathroom and it was cold and he was scared?

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah. I forgot that he was cold. I remember him being. I thought it was more scary.

[Lil Wayne]

It was scary. But remember, it gets cold. No, it gets cold.

[Benny Blanco]

Is that sour patch?

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you see the breath, right?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's my favorite movie of all time, Sixth Sense.

[Lil Dicky]

Did you. You didn't see it come in the ending? What a twist.

[Lil Wayne]

Oh, M. Night.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my God.

[Lil Wayne]

I still watch that motherfucker to this day and find something new.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I was in a house in Italy, this really old house from like hundreds of years ago. And I was with Sophia, one of my assistants. She said she had an experience with an alien or a goat, some sort of thing. And she's like. She's never happened to her before. And then she had.

[Lil Dicky]

Bit of an earthquake.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no, no. She said. And she was like, white in the face. And then she had to come and stay with us in the main house for the rest of the time. Yeah. And she was just like, I can't even talk about it.

[Lil Dicky]

I never had an experience.

[Benny Blanco]

She said, I can't even talk.

[Lil Wayne]

Tell them about the hotel. Was that, though in Thailand New York. What happened with the little girl? What little girl?

[Lil Dicky]

Remember?

[Lil Wayne]

Haunted hotel. The haunted hotel. The little girl. And your chef. Chef was in there cooking with the dude. And they heard the noise, and then Shelf was about. Oh, no, I do remember that. But I remember nothing happened to me, so I don't know. Nothing happened to me. I don't know too much about it. It was more of their story. But we did stay in, like, a haunted hotel. What city was that? I think it was Syracuse. Syracuse, New York? Yeah. It's like they got this little famous haunted.

[Lil Dicky]

So it's like branded as a haunted hotel.

[Lil Wayne]

It is. And they got the official stories of why they got like.

[Lil Dicky]

A little girl died and you went to stay there.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. It was just. I didn't care about it. I don't think. I didn't know that it was. We didn't.

[Interviewer Alex]

Where was it?

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, you didn't know when you were there.

[Lil Wayne]

I didn't know that.

[Lil Dicky]

When did you found out when you were. Before you went to.

[Lil Wayne]

When we got there, you guys were

[Interviewer Alex]

all in different rooms. You didn't have to.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, but my chef claimed that. My chef claims that he heard a little girl while he was cooking.

[Lil Dicky]

You trust your chef?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, he cooks in the. He cooks in, like the. Their. Their. Their kitchen. Like the hotel.

[Benny Blanco]

Wait, so wherever you go, your chef just cooks in their kitchen?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Wow. Really?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Why? Oh, you. Just. Because you don't want to eat the food from.

[Lil Wayne]

I don't eat. I only eat for my chef.

[Benny Blanco]

What are you eating?

[Lil Wayne]

Whatever I picked that day. I don't eat healthy at all.

[Lil Dicky]

I bet you I eat less healthy than you.

[Lil Wayne]

I don't eat healthy at all.

[Lil Dicky]

I eat so unhealthy. It's disgusting, and I'm ashamed of myself.

[Benny Blanco]

What did you eat yesterday?

[Lil Wayne]

I ate breakfast for dinner. A lot.

[Lil Dicky]

Do you like cereal?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Aren't you blown away by how many unbelievable cereals there are? Like, Frosted Flakes.

[Lil Wayne]

They got a bunch of cereal.

[Lil Dicky]

Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Honeycombs.

[Lil Wayne]

They do like. I can do that. I don't even drink. I don't do milk, and I still eat cereal.

[Benny Blanco]

What do you put in it?

[Lil Wayne]

I put milk in it. I just can't look at it.

[Lil Dicky]

What?

[Interviewer Alex]

What?

[Lil Wayne]

Instead of pointing to where you can actually see the milk?

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

I just poured.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, no, no. I need it soaked.

[Lil Dicky]

No, he wants it to come up and be a bottle.

[Interviewer Alex]

You want the bottom soaked with the top Dry.

[Lil Wayne]

And I want to eat it fast to where the bottom ain't even soaked.

[Interviewer Alex]

Don't even Put the milk in then.

[Lil Dicky]

No, you need the milk.

[Lil Wayne]

I need the milk.

[Benny Blanco]

You need drink.

[Lil Wayne]

You're not getting that much of that.

[Benny Blanco]

I like the flavor of the milk.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I mean, I like to drink the

[Lil Wayne]

milk, but I can't look at it.

[Lil Dicky]

Why do you think you're like, so not into the milk?

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

Why can't you look at it? When you as people, you're going to find out this is very, very not uncommon. I mean, this is very not uncommon. Yes.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

I don't eat a lot of things that's like white and soft.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

So like, like mashed potatoes. I don't ranch. I can't do, like, stuff like man, nothing. And milk is the only thing in white rice. That's the only thing.

[Lil Dicky]

Because you had it so young and you've just always accepted and not.

[Lil Wayne]

And that's the reason I know for

[Lil Dicky]

me, I have so many texture issues. Like, I really. I never eat any fruits or vegetables ever.

[Lil Wayne]

And when I was young, I ate all that shit.

[Lil Dicky]

When I was young, I ate tuna fish. A texture that if I saw today for the first time, I'd say I

[Lil Wayne]

could never eat that.

[Lil Dicky]

But it was grandfathered in. So I eat tuna fish.

[Benny Blanco]

You know, he doesn't eat any fruits or vegetables at all. 0.

[Lil Wayne]

I eat fruit a lot.

[Lil Dicky]

See, I think I eat less healthy than you. I eat like pizza, chicken fingers, wings, twice a day, every day for life.

[Lil Wayne]

I know. I haven't had a. I haven't had a fast food meal in over 25 years. 20 years.

[Benny Blanco]

Wait, really?

[Lil Dicky]

It's leftover Taco Bell. If you don't make anything else, what

[Benny Blanco]

about after a show? What do you. Chef cooks.

[Lil Wayne]

My chef?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Do you have any? Like, for me, I don't even know if it's an eating disorder. I just feel like I get. I don't know if it's OCD or what, but I'm like, I won't even try the fruits or vegetables. Like, do you have any, like, things that are like rituals or OCD based things where it's like your brain always does things one way and it has to be that way.

[Lil Wayne]

I eat the same breakfast every morning.

[Lil Dicky]

What is it?

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, what is it?

[Lil Wayne]

And it's a very. Interest is not the same. It's very unique. I ate biscuits and syrup and bacon and sausage.

[Benny Blanco]

What type of sausage, though?

[Lil Wayne]

She make these little patties.

[Benny Blanco]

I like chicken, apple. I like that. Oh, I do like that. I like that flavor. You never had it?

[Lil Wayne]

That's a thing? Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

It's so good. You've had it before. You never had it before. You never had chicken apple. It's unbelievable. It's, like, sweet, but it's sausage, so it tastes like it has maple syrup almost in it.

[Lil Wayne]

It might be good.

[Lil Dicky]

I don't like sausage at all. I don't like chased meat. I don't like meat that can, like, rip. You know what I mean?

[Benny Blanco]

Like.

[Interviewer Alex]

Like a hot dog. You don't like hot dog?

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, I don't like hot dog. I just like what you

[Benny Blanco]

gotta eat. Any meat that can ruin.

[Lil Dicky]

Do you like chicken?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, that's my favorite.

[Lil Dicky]

Chicken breast.

[Benny Blanco]

No, I hate chicken breast. He likes chicken breast.

[Lil Wayne]

I love chicken grill.

[Lil Dicky]

You know what I mean? When you take the fork in a sausage or a hot dog and there's that, like, skin on it and it just cut.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. You hear the crack in the middle.

[Interviewer Alex]

You hear the, like, little cracks.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, on a link. On a link. You saying.

[Lil Wayne]

Oh, you talking about on a l. No.

[Interviewer Alex]

Or a hot dog. You have to, like. It's like, it's been, like, pulled. Like, the top of it's been pulled.

[Benny Blanco]

It's just a link. It's picking up the tube casing.

[Interviewer Alex]

Well, you don't want. When you hear the casing.

[Lil Wayne]

I don't do the hot dog like that.

[Benny Blanco]

Wait, but he only like. I hate. I hate chicken breast. I like chicken thigh.

[Lil Dicky]

He thinks it's weird that I like chicken breast. I'm like, what do we. That's. Everyone likes chicken breast.

[Lil Wayne]

I like chicken breast.

[Benny Blanco]

No, chicken thigh is better, too, because the breast isn't as New Orleans.

[Lil Wayne]

So we from. I'm from where Popeyes is created. So we. I like every piece of chicken. Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Have you always felt. This is a weird way to phrase it, but, like, the chosen one?

[Lil Wayne]

No.

[Lil Dicky]

You feel like just one of all of us.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. I just felt that I'm very blessed with my talent, but more blessed to actually get to do it. Yes. And make a living and make a life of it.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I feel like you've never felt pressure for any album or anything. And I feel like you're just making songs. I feel like you probably have, like, 75 number one hits that you've never even shown anyone. Just, like, in a thing. And you're like, ah, I decided not to put it on the album.

[Lil Dicky]

What's the process for. Because you're making so much music. What's the process from getting it from this big batch to, like, the 16 that makes a project or whatever titles.

[Lil Wayne]

What's going on in the world, or just literally just Hearing it.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

Cuz like he said it could be something from like 2015, we just ain't heard in a minute and be like, man, I forgot about this one. Yeah, put it on there. Also, you know, by not listening to no one and only stand to yourself. It's kind of a test.

[Lil Dicky]

No, I feel like, look, as a rapper, I'll honestly admit I've modeled my entire. The way I rap off of you and Drake.

[Lil Wayne]

Love.

[Lil Dicky]

You know what I mean? Like, no question, love. Because I know that Drake modeled his whole thing off of what you did. And Drake is my biggest influence as far as how I rap. But I really. I can't believe that for me, I have to listen to other rap to. I'm not saying that I ever want to copy what people are doing, but

[Lil Wayne]

I know what you mean. I just want to understand all of

[Lil Dicky]

the options that exist as far as where things can go sonically. And then I do it my own way. And I love showing different diversity. Whatever.

[Benny Blanco]

When I was younger, my favorite thing was. Cause I didn't listen. I try not to listen. I try to be aware of what's going on, but I try not to listen too much. Cause I don't want it to bleed into my ears. So I always used to get excited if we were on a roll back in the day and we would make songs and then the radio started copying what we were doing. Then I was like, oh. Then I was like, okay, now I gotta switch it again.

[Lil Wayne]

But that's not listening is how you, you know, is how you. Is how you keep it original.

[Lil Dicky]

You're the godfather of everything I listen to.

[Lil Wayne]

No, I'm saying I know. That's what I do it for. So it's my test.

[Lil Dicky]

How did you do it? How do you.

[Lil Wayne]

It's my test. I know. It's meaning the moment is like an athlete, like, you know, who can shoot the ball with his eyes closed. You know what I mean? I believe the moment he misses the shot will probably be the moment he said, ok, hey, I'm good.

[Interviewer Alex]

J.

[Benny Blanco]

Is there ever. Is there ever times, like, in your career where you've been like, oh, man, like, you've been excited for someone's album that's coming out, like when 50 was dropping, like his second album or like Kanye was.

[Lil Wayne]

I just started doing this probably within the last 10 years.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Who are your favorite rappers? Besides you?

[Lil Wayne]

My favorite rapper is Jay Z.

[Lil Dicky]

He's in my top five.

[Lil Wayne]

And Missy Elliot.

[Benny Blanco]

You listen to any current rapper? No, not really.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Interviewer Alex]

Oh, you do?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. I Have a kid. So I'll be having to find out what the hell they listen to sometimes.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you like, what the hell the fuck is this?

[Lil Wayne]

Not all the time.

[Benny Blanco]

Like, it's like just like noise.

[Lil Wayne]

Not every single time.

[Lil Dicky]

No. You invented all of it. At its core. Like, every. It all came from you in a

[Benny Blanco]

way, and it came from me. You are the original.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, yeah. And I get to watch it up close, though.

[Benny Blanco]

But now it's like 10 times of what was you. So now it's like a man of a man of a man.

[Lil Wayne]

Something else. Yes. Don't get all that.

[Benny Blanco]

Check. You know what this is called, David? Do you know what else it's called?

[Lil Wayne]

David? Protein. You.

[Benny Blanco]

You're David.

[Interviewer Alex]

Am I allowed to eat it now?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, you can eat it, guys.

[Lil Wayne]

It's the best bar on the market.

[Benny Blanco]

First of all, the macros are through

[Lil Wayne]

the roof on this thing.

[Benny Blanco]

It's got 28 grams of protein with 150 calories and zero sugar. Like, I know you're not a. You don't need a lot of. Yes.

[Interviewer Alex]

Do you think everyone understands what macro is?

[Benny Blanco]

I think a lot of people know what macronutrients are, especially the people who are buying. All you have to know. You don't have to know anything. All you have to know is these taste better.

[Interviewer Alex]

Macro and the fudge brownie one's really good.

[Lil Wayne]

And also the cookie dough one's really good.

[Lil Dicky]

David Gold is available at Walmart, Walmart, Walmart stores Nationwide and on Walmart.com you

[Lil Wayne]

can try a single bar for only $2.97.

[Benny Blanco]

Go grab one for yourself.

[Lil Dicky]

What's the story of how you like you and Drake? How did you find. I don't know the details of that story.

[Lil Wayne]

Drake came through from. You ever heard of rap? A lot records?

[Benny Blanco]

Of course.

[Lil Wayne]

J Print, the owner of that, his son's. That's like. He always ran with us around our age. Jazz.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, jazz.

[Lil Wayne]

And jazz was always jazz. Bought Drake to me.

[Lil Dicky]

Got it.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

And when you heard Drake, you were like, of course. No brainer. I see it instantly.

[Lil Wayne]

What happened was when I heard him, he was. It was all rap.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

And then, you know, one of those hooks came and I was like, who's on the hook? I mean, it was like, that's him.

[Lil Dicky]

Straight feature.

[Lil Wayne]

And I was like, that's the guy. You know what I mean? Like, that's him singing. And it was like, yeah. Like, why he gonna do more of this? So that's when I put it, got him together and figured it out. And he was it was, but it was like you said, it was instantly like, come on, man. And at that time there was no one doing that shit. No, at that time.

[Benny Blanco]

And Nicki Minat, like, he did.

[Interviewer Alex]

Wow.

[Benny Blanco]

Henny Knott, how did that.

[Lil Wayne]

That came through with my New York wave. So when we went, we found like, you know, I love rap, so New York to me is the Mecca, the holy ground. And so I had. Not like it wasn't. It wasn't like a tryout type of thing. But just like I was. I made set my mind that I'm going to give me some New York rappers. And we ran out, got J. Mills from the band and we met Nikki through somebody as well and shit. She came to the.

[Lil Dicky]

What's she doing? Like, how does she present?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, that was back then. That was in those days where it wasn't. You didn't have a song already for me to hear. Yeah, there was nothing.

[Benny Blanco]

Recorded those early freestyle videos.

[Interviewer Alex]

Wow.

[Lil Wayne]

That was those days. So you didn't have music for me? No one had no music for me to listen to.

[Interviewer Alex]

How'd you find him on the spot?

[Lil Wayne]

This is my son. This is my little bro. Yeah, he from Dallas. He had a song when he was like a real little kid. Like, how old were you? 10? Yeah, he was like, so you. He had this hot ass song in Texas and so he had a look about him. And that's when I had another little nigga from my city that was on the. On the label named Lil Chucky. Yeah, yeah. And so. And Taz. Taz. Cartez is my best friend that was my manager at the time. Cartez found him.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, wow.

[Lil Wayne]

Shout out, Tez. And I ain't. I ain't left since.

[Benny Blanco]

It's so crazy that not only did you like have the biggest career, you signed like all the biggest artists too.

[Lil Wayne]

Make sure they got some amazing careers too.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, you did a great job with both of them.

[Lil Wayne]

They did the job.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, they did do the job. But you had the co. That was when the co sign meant everything and you were the best CO sign. And then you'd get on the record. I remember.

[Lil Wayne]

Still gotta get on the record.

[Benny Blanco]

I know. He used to like. I remember. Yeah. So I need to know. So when you were getting on all those records, you weren't listening to songs, you were just like. Someone would bring it to you and they'd be like, yo, you should get on this record. Like when it was like a pop song and you were getting on, like

[Lil Wayne]

when I listened to their record.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. So you would just Wouldn't even know the artist. You'd listen to the person. You'd be like, this is good. Or it's bad. I'm not getting on it. Or I'm getting on it.

[Lil Wayne]

Oh, there's no such thing as. I didn't. I was never. A song has never been brought to me like you like this and that. Cause that's not. This is art.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. So you just gave me that.

[Lil Dicky]

Amen, brother.

[Lil Wayne]

You gave me your canvas and you asked me to be a part of it. Let me add what I add to it.

[Benny Blanco]

There was like.

[Lil Dicky]

And he's always telling me my songs suck.

[Benny Blanco]

No, I don't. No, I only tell him. I only tell him it sucks if I think, like. Cause he'll ask my opinion.

[Lil Wayne]

Crazy got a real answer.

[Benny Blanco]

He'll ask my opinion for Benny.

[Lil Dicky]

For Benny. If it's not like.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no. It's just. There's different things. If he's coming for me, he's coming to me and asking me if a song has the potential to be a really big song. He's gonna ask my opinion on that as, like. Like, if it's gonna be. He's like, will this song be a big song?

[Lil Dicky]

Which is not why I make music. I don't like it. I like the weird interludes more.

[Benny Blanco]

How do you know I'm good at it?

[Lil Wayne]

How do you know?

[Lil Dicky]

No, he has good taste. And I agree with you philosophically. It's like, you can't.

[Lil Wayne]

It is art these days.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, these days. These days it's much harder. Back in the day, it was much easier.

[Lil Wayne]

You had that person that knew A and R. I might eat some glass or something tomorrow and have the number one hit.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my God.

[Lil Wayne]

Blood in his mouth.

[Benny Blanco]

It just matters, like, what some, like, little kid does in, like, Arkansas on TikTok. And then it's like your song's either big or it's.

[Lil Wayne]

Try my hardest to at least still give him some real art, you know?

[Lil Dicky]

I appreciate everything you do.

[Lil Wayne]

Something Nick, just so you have a contrast, that's all. So I love to still see my name up there next to Lil Whoever's. Yeah, Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

I would not be Lil Dicky if there was not Lil Wayne. No question, love.

[Benny Blanco]

Are you the original Lil? You might be the first Lil.

[Lil Wayne]

Nah, nah.

[Lil Dicky]

Who was the first?

[Lil Wayne]

The guy who put me on was Lil Slim.

[Benny Blanco]

No, but I'm saying, like. I'm saying, like, the first discredit Lil Slim. Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying, are you the first Big Lil?

[Lil Wayne]

But also everybody in New Orleans that been a thing. So in New Orleans, just regular people are lil, you know, Lil something. Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

So would you say that New Orleans deserves. They created the lil?

[Lil Wayne]

I don't know if we created, but it's because it's an actual. It means something. So, like, music aside, in New Orleans, when you're the junior of someone that's off top, they call you. If your dad name was Big, was Dicky. If he had a son, he automatically becomes Big Dicky. And you Little Dicky. Yeah. Or no more, no less.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

His name is Stu.

[Lil Wayne]

Lil Stu. Lil Stu. My dad's name is Stu.

[Benny Blanco]

I really think he might be the first big Lil.

[Lil Dicky]

Might be the first big Lil.

[Lil Wayne]

He might be.

[Lil Dicky]

Were you the first big Lil? He must have been.

[Benny Blanco]

Was Lil Wayne the first big Lil?

[Lil Dicky]

Lil Wayne was not the absolute first rapper to use lil, but he was arguably the first to turn it into a massive iconic brand that defined the modern era of hip hop.

[Benny Blanco]

The first big Lil.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yes.

[Lil Dicky]

While rappers. While rappers like Lil Troy, 1988 and Lil and Lil Kim. Lil Kim.

[Lil Wayne]

Oh, bow mid-90s Lil Kim. Lil Kim persevered. Maybe.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay. You're the first big Lil man.

[Lil Wayne]

I about to say that, though. I about to say, I don't know who Lil Troy had that. That little Troy.

[Lil Dicky]

Was that song so good.

[Lil Wayne]

Did he actually rap on it?

[Benny Blanco]

Classic big Lil man.

[Lil Wayne]

Cuz they used to have a weird little dynamic. They used to have a weird dynamic where they wouldn't even do be on the song.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh my God, Lil Kim was so good.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. Shout out Lil Kim.

[Lil Dicky]

Shout out Lil Kim. The first big Lil.

[Benny Blanco]

You. I was just thinking about this. You. You ever get starstruck ever in your life? Like you ever when you see someone?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, Yeah, I went to the All White party. Oh, Michael Rubin. Michael Rubin. For the first. I don't know if I was actually. It was one person. It was just for the simple fact that I didn't know that they all, you know, everybody. I was like, oh, my. I had never seen. I kind of felt like I was like this what they be.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, that's how I felt.

[Lil Wayne]

That's literally how I felt. I was like, so this way you just see people that you didn't like, you can't believe, and they just off their ride. They laughing and dancing. You're like, that's what that is again from the movie? Yeah, like, damn. So that was about the Everybody in there that was fucking me up. I came and tell you who I seen. I seen everybody.

[Lil Dicky]

Who's your favorite basketball player of all time. As a fan of all time. Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

Kobe, the black Mama Bryant knew it

[Lil Dicky]

was gonna be Kobe. I agree completely.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

No question.

[Lil Wayne]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Did you ever. Did you ever meet Kobe?

[Lil Wayne]

Yes.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, that's cool.

[Lil Wayne]

A lot. Yeah. Yeah. I used to do these songs for him and shit.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, really?

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I never thought I'd be starstruck by anyone. Cause, like, no. We saw LeBron James for the first time, and it rocked me.

[Lil Dicky]

He was, like, dancing, and the air was shifting.

[Lil Wayne]

At a party.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We saw him dancing at a party, and we were. We literally. I was stunned. I was stunned. He caught me. I literally said, he caught me. Yeah. I was like. And I was like, dave. Dave. And I'm like. I was stunned. I just. And we didn't. I don't even think we said hi to him that time.

[Lil Wayne]

I met LeBron when he was about 4, 16, I believe, so. The baby's Birdman's brother, Slim. He was always into sports and stuff. Like, knowing kids before they. Before they blow up and shit. And so I was on tour, and I had a show in Cleveland or act somewhere like that. And he was like, wayne, they got this basketball player out there, you know, he won't come to your show. He shit, he gonna be everything. Trust me. So I was like, cool, whatever. So let me, you know. Yeah. And so the dude, you know, they like, dude, he downstairs. He downstairs. And I meet him. He tall as fuck, but he had his arm. I knew he was somebody because he had, like, his arm was in, like, a sling.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

But I noticed that the guys he was with, like, they would not let. Like, they was not letting people see that. And I was like, oh, like, he can't show his arms, bro. I was like, that nigga that important?

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

I'm like, who the hell is this little nigga? Like, that nigga can't even show his arms, bro. That nigga cold.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

And so I asked him, did he remember? He always said, we do. It was a Me and Ja Rule concert. Me and Joel, Santana, somebody like that. We killed. He stayed down there and kicked. He went to the show and everything. He rocked out.

[Lil Dicky]

I mean, everybody that meets you remembers the time they met you.

[Lil Wayne]

I remember that.

[Lil Dicky]

You wore that for everyone.

[Lil Wayne]

I remember that. I remember my time meeting Brian.

[Benny Blanco]

The only other time I got starstruck was Michelle Obama. And I didn't even think I would because I met. Met Barack at the same time. And I thought he was gonna get me, but she got me. Like, I met her first, and then

[Lil Wayne]

I was like, oh, I never met the Obamas, but he said my name in the speech before.

[Lil Dicky]

What'd he say?

[Interviewer Alex]

He did?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. He used me and LeBron.

[Lil Dicky]

What do you say?

[Lil Wayne]

He said if you. You know, he was like. To the. He's saying, if you want to be the next LeBron and Lil Wayne.

[Lil Dicky]

Can you believe how that ties that whole conversation together perfectly?

[Benny Blanco]

That's crazy.

[Lil Wayne]

It's unbelievable.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. That was the Homicons.

[Lil Wayne]

I did meet Ms. Who was the vice president? Kamala.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

I had to perform, like, probably like, two years ago at the White House. Oh, wow. But I'm so glad to hear Trump say when they was mad at him about building a ballroom. And he was like, because everything we do, we have to do it on the damn lawn. So people. Just. People who don't know nothing, hearing that, thinking he just being. No, for real. I was glad to hear him say that, because when I got there and had the performance, like, why is it in the back? I was like, what? I was like, I can't go in. I'm like, so what? I can. I was like, so. They don't want me to, but this is a backyard barbecue. Yeah. No, that's literally where they do everything at. And I had to find out. So it was a good logistical reason.

[Lil Dicky]

Okay, that's good to know. Have you ever forgotten the words? Of course, right?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ms. Kamala was requesting songs. It was going crazy. They got the cheat code.

[Lil Dicky]

You're in the teleprompter up there.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Oh, I need that.

[Lil Wayne]

I got that from Drizzy.

[Benny Blanco]

Well, he does that too.

[Lil Wayne]

I went fucking. He asked me to come out one night in New York or Miami, and I had to pop up from the middle of the stage and shit. I came out and I saw there's, like, TVs, and I started looking at them shits. I saw my vocals, my lyrics. I was like. I was like, you could do this. You could do this. And I was like, this is awesome. And I had. Ever since I seen them, I've never not had them. I don't care if we doing the smallest place or bar mitzvah. I need it.

[Lil Dicky]

Have you ever done a bar mitzvah?

[Lil Wayne]

Huh?

[Lil Dicky]

Have you ever done a bar mitzvah? How come I've never been asked to do a bar mitzvah? No, I haven't. I would know.

[Lil Wayne]

I've done more than one, actually.

[Interviewer Alex]

You should do. I wish you guys could have linked up for yours.

[Benny Blanco]

Have you ever been to some other country where. Because I heard the funniest stories about this. You ever been asked to go perform some weird country and then it's like the craziest experience.

[Lil Wayne]

Saudi Arabia, Riyadh. Why?

[Lil Dicky]

What happened?

[Lil Wayne]

I didn't think nobody was going to be there. Nobody was going to know me. It was down to 90,000 people out there.

[Lil Dicky]

They know you everywhere in the world.

[Lil Wayne]

The dude got so much money, the stage was the size of this whole city.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

And so. And also, I didn't. He didn't explain to me that he was gonna have fire, fireworks and all that going on during the show. No.

[Benny Blanco]

What the fuck was that?

[Lil Wayne]

So I'm like. I'm performing looking. I'm like, this nigga too rich. They go, what? I got some money, nigga.

[Lil Dicky]

I, like, had my first show and had never really, like. I never even liked doing karaoke prior to becoming a rapper. And then all of a sudden, I was able to, like, sell out a legitimate show, but I'd never done it before. So the night before my first show, it was like, in upstate New York. I went to, like, I had some fan who was like a kid there. I went to his hometown and performed in an Italian restaurant for like 25 kids. My whole set just to, like, do the, you know, just get it all out. And then I did like a big show the next night. And it was useful.

[Lil Wayne]

I just performed for. It wasn't a bar mitzvah, but the kid was still becoming a man. Yeah. And it was about 20 kids in there.

[Lil Dicky]

You ever go down in the crowd and rap? No. You're too big.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, I can't do that. And I sound too. Actually too small. You're too small.

[Interviewer Alex]

He's the first big little to body surf. Are you talking about you never did

[Lil Dicky]

small rooms the way that I did? Like, you kind of went so fast.

[Benny Blanco]

Clubs, you have clubs.

[Lil Wayne]

I've been signed since I was 11.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, but you were so big, so.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, but they did 13 years.

[Lil Wayne]

We didn't sign to. We. They didn't. We didn't sign the big deal to a Universal TILL I was 14.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. And I was already big because of the hot boys.

[Lil Dicky]

And yeah, I used to go down in the crowd and I would find the fan that I felt like cared about me the most, and I'll get right in front of them, and they would do a little like, you know, circle around me. And I always had a bodyguard there, but I always didn't want him to be chasing involved because I really wanted to feel. Have you ever crowd surfed?

[Lil Wayne]

No.

[Lil Dicky]

You Never done it once.

[Lil Wayne]

Nah, it's not working. It's too small.

[Interviewer Alex]

You crowd surf?

[Lil Dicky]

Oh, yeah. But I do it, and this is what I do because it does give a good energy to the show, but I do it in a way where I don't jump too far. I kind of, like, go just like this and lean the first, like, four rows. Catch me. It gives all the momentum for the show, as if I did. But then I'm already kind of on my way back immediately. One time, there was a festival, and I. I kept getting dragged the other way, and it was really.

[Benny Blanco]

It was scary.

[Lil Dicky]

I had to get off, and then I had to, like, fight my way through, like, too many.

[Interviewer Alex]

Scream to the people, like, send me back. How do you get back?

[Lil Dicky]

I talk. I'm always so scared I'm gonna snap my leg and break it. I have a security guy there, and I say, hey, like, this is the song. I do it. I do it. During this time, I plan on, like, only I say everything I just said, and I prep them, and then hopefully they're listening when I talk to them. Oh, yeah.

[Interviewer Alex]

And then they just.

[Lil Wayne]

Oh, hell no.

[Lil Dicky]

You remember the time.

[Benny Blanco]

Okay, so one time is my friend Eric Andre. He's a comedian. He had me come and do, like, because I've been on his show a bunch. So he had me do this live show with him, and we're doing the live show, and he said, hey, man, no one else wants to do the crazy thing. Will you do it? And I said, yeah. What is it? He goes, I'll tell you when you're on stage.

[Lil Wayne]

You didn't make it.

[Benny Blanco]

No, no, no, no. And I said, okay. So I get on stage, and he's like. And he's like, oh, yeah, this is crazy. He has me first. He asked me chug a beer. So I'm like, okay. So I chug a beer, and I don't even drink beer, so I chug the beer. Then he says, all right, chug a Red Bull. And I've never even had a Red Bull, like. And so I chug right back to back, okay? Then he says, we got the hottest hot sauce in the world, and I want you to take a shot of it. And, like, before I could even take a shot of it, like, I, like, put it to my lips, and I'm like, oh, fuck it. It's so hot. So I drop it. And I guess when I dropped it, some of the, like, speckles went on my face. And I didn't realize. And I'm doing the whole Thing. And it's like a whole.

[Lil Dicky]

A whole audience.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, Audience. We're doing all this shit. And then I realized I'm like, oh, shit. I'm like. Something's in my. My face is burning. And then I go. And I'm like, you put it in your eye? Dude, it got in my eye. And then. And it's the hottest hot sauce in the world. And nobody knew because they think I'm playing the part. So I'm like, eric. And it's like, the crowds, like, you know, it's thousands of people. And so I'm like, water. So they give me water. It's just making it worse. And so I. So I stay on the thing. And at this point, I'm like. I'm, like, spitting up, and I'm like. I feel like I'm about to go unconscious, like. And then at that point, Eric grabs me and we both crowd surf, and there's, like, videos of me, and my body's like this. I'm like. Like, I can't even see. I'm, like, blind. And then they took me up. They took me to the hospital right after the shit. And they get. They do get.

[Lil Dicky]

You went to the hospital?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, they do. There is a thing they give you that instantly. I don't know.

[Lil Dicky]

I just all paid for that.

[Benny Blanco]

It's this special thing they give you. It's like, you couldn't have it. It's white.

[Lil Wayne]

It's white.

[Benny Blanco]

It's white.

[Lil Dicky]

I used to dread going to bed every night because I had to brush my teeth. And brushing my teeth would take 25 minutes with my rituals.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah. Took up a lot of time.

[Lil Dicky]

Took up a lot of time. Ate up a lot of soul today. I think you guys might have this thing you do, because we're here talking about it. It's called no cd, and my friends are gonna tell you all about it.

[Interviewer Alex]

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[Benny Blanco]

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[Lil Wayne]

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[Benny Blanco]

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[Lil Dicky]

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[Benny Blanco]

You like a football game more than a basketball game?

[Lil Wayne]

Depending on the basketball. If it's the finals.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Playoffs on the woods.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah. You can't beat that. You can't beat that.

[Benny Blanco]

It's the best thing in the.

[Lil Wayne]

But, you know, I'm a, I'm a.

[Lil Dicky]

You guys still hanging out?

[Lil Wayne]

You know, I'm a Packer fan, so it's Nothing like being 813 -13 degree weather and all that. Watching cold weather.

[Lil Dicky]

Do you ever hoop?

[Lil Wayne]

No.

[Benny Blanco]

Wait, can you ollie?

[Lil Dicky]

Can I ollie?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

I don't know how to do anything. Why?

[Lil Wayne]

You got a skateboard?

[Lil Dicky]

I knew you were coming.

[Lil Wayne]

Can you do it?

[Benny Blanco]

Can you do it?

[Lil Dicky]

I can't do anything. My first time even standing.

[Interviewer Alex]

Be careful. I wouldn't be wearing slippers.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, please be careful.

[Lil Dicky]

Did you ever use those scooters? The scooters that were electronic when they came out, there's like. Oh, not no handles.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I used to use that thing where you go like this.

[Lil Wayne]

No, I got on. I, I, that was one in my skate park and. Yeah, that was enough for me.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, I did it. I got good at those.

[Interviewer Alex]

Try to do a little.

[Benny Blanco]

Wait.

[Interviewer Alex]

Try to do an ollie forward.

[Lil Wayne]

You guys know how dangerous it is.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, try to do it. I don't even remember when I was.

[Lil Dicky]

Oh, look at that.

[Benny Blanco]

That's something I wouldn't even when I was a kid. I could do an ollie, but I don't even remember. No, I don't remember.

[Lil Wayne]

That was it.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, no, that was a bad.

[Lil Dicky]

That was impressive.

[Benny Blanco]

No, when I was a kid, I used to be able to really do it. I, I haven't done it in so long. Oh, my God. I can't do it.

[Lil Dicky]

It felt like it was an ankle.

[Benny Blanco]

It's primo.

[Lil Dicky]

I could do it.

[Lil Wayne]

Called primo. You almost primo.

[Benny Blanco]

I could do a ollie and a kick flip when I was a kid,

[Lil Wayne]

but I don't even kick flip.

[Benny Blanco]

You. You can't.

[Lil Wayne]

I've been skating for years. But you talk to pros and they be like they learned in their eighth year.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

You know how you're obsessed with rap and you always want to be like the best rapper and get better and better. Do you feel any of that as it pertains to skateboarding?

[Benny Blanco]

Yes.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

You ever done it with Tony Hawk? Yes. That's crazy.

[Lil Dicky]

Do you ever? Let me ask you this as a rapper, one of my last questions for you. I just want to know if you go through this. I listen to pax, I get beats that I love.

[Lil Wayne]

Okay?

[Lil Dicky]

I would say, and I'm really selective. Like, I pick, like, the best 10, whatever. Half the time, at least, I have trouble cutting through the right way. I know you can EQ the beat getting my voice to sit, like, half the time, the beats that I love, my voice can't cut through. I don't have, like. You have, like, this, like, grit to the back end of your voice that allows you to.

[Lil Wayne]

That's what you mean.

[Lil Dicky]

But listen to my voice. It kind of weakens as the day goes.

[Lil Wayne]

I get it.

[Lil Dicky]

And as a rapper and I just wonder, are other rappers so burdened by cutting through or not? Like, no.

[Benny Blanco]

If you asked him to be on a song and you sent him a beat that he didn't think he could do, he wouldn't be able to be on the song.

[Lil Dicky]

That's true.

[Benny Blanco]

Even though you're his favorite rapper?

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah, I would try as hard as I could. I'd approach it every single way.

[Lil Wayne]

But, like, when push comes aside, I've done that. I've sent the song to someone before, and they'd be like, man, I tried. I tried to go at that bitch. I couldn't get it.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

But you get everything, don't you think?

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, I do.

[Lil Dicky]

Everything you pride yourself on, like, not being stumped by anything.

[Lil Wayne]

Nothing. I. That's another. So when you was asking me about the beats, I approach beats a different way. When I get a batch, a pack, I'm doing every single one.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

I can't get crazy. It's only because I love to challenge myself. So even if it's one that I don't that I really like too much, I bet you I'm gonna do something on it that's gonna make me love it.

[Lil Dicky]

That's amazing. I can't believe you do that.

[Benny Blanco]

So when I. When I. When, obviously, when Juicero was live, when I worked with him, like, he would do a thing where you'd go to play a beat and you'd play one second of it, and he'd be like, okay, put that in. He doesn't want to hear the thing because he wants to hear it live for the first time and ride on it at the same time. It was crazy interesting.

[Lil Wayne]

It's very, very, very, very.

[Lil Dicky]

How do you do it? You're freestyling. You're never writing anything down. But how, like, are you having to do, like, half a line, two lines? Like, how far can you go before you have to stop and punch back in?

[Lil Wayne]

I'm a rapper. And so what I mean by that is, I'm too used to having. I'm too used to no music on and just eating your fucking head off right there. So I still make my shit that way. Meaning I just have to be playing. I'm gonna make the whole verse instead of stopping while I got eight.

[Benny Blanco]

And what are you thinking before?

[Lil Wayne]

That's what I'm saying. I'm thinking, oh, so you're thinking for

[Benny Blanco]

a little bit and then you go in.

[Lil Wayne]

Yeah, I'm gonna make the whole verse in my head.

[Lil Dicky]

How do you remember it without writing it down? Just weird memory.

[Lil Wayne]

I mean, it's the truth.

[Benny Blanco]

So how long does it take you to write it in your head?

[Lil Wayne]

Oh, shit, man. I done been on. I done been on songs for years. Just because I think a lot.

[Benny Blanco]

And you still remember it years later. The verse.

[Lil Wayne]

I better change the whole damn song up. I was just saying how I don't just. Yeah. And especially if it's a feature, that's the ones that I have to. Just because, you know, I ain't got time to keep redoing, so I gotta stick that bitch the first time.

[Lil Dicky]

Sometimes it's nice to not be able to tweak and you just kind of have to go.

[Lil Wayne]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I do so many features that I have. I'm up against that a lot.

[Benny Blanco]

You ever get a song from someone and you're just like, fuck. Like, where. Like, the verse is so good and you're like, I gotta do. I gotta be crazy on this.

[Lil Wayne]

This. That sound like a song from me.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

I'm lying, though. I've gotten some. I've gotten a song from, of course, Drake. Yeah, of course. Like, all. Every time. If it's not a singing song, if he rapping on it, of course that's how you like.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. I don't know if I've ever heard a song where you haven't been the best verse on it.

[Lil Dicky]

Well, yeah, never.

[Lil Wayne]

That'd be the. That'd be the. You know, that's what you aim for. But that's come from coming. Because I was in a group.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lil Wayne]

That's literally what that's about.

[Benny Blanco]

Even back in the day, that's what it's like when you would come up. But it was even more divorced at the beginning. But there was a time to me, as somebody who's listened to you since I was a kid, there was a time where you were like. It was like, I loved your voice. I loved it. And you were like a good rapper. And then all of A sudden there was, like. It was like, a year, and then you were the best rapper.

[Lil Dicky]

Like, there was, like, a time. Yes, I agree. I swear.

[Benny Blanco]

You went from. I. You went from here as a rapper to, like.

[Lil Dicky]

I agree. I agree. There was a. No one's ever said that out loud in front of me. And I totally agree. Where, like, there was a period where I thought of this type of Lil Wayne and then this other type of. And maybe you didn't feel it that

[Lil Wayne]

way, but for me, I know when it was. What was. Was during the. So it was the mixtape era. It was when mixtapes were really mixtapes, and so I would be. Before the world knew, I was doing these mixtapes called squad mixtapes, and they was killing New Orleans and killing the south, and I was doing whole tours off of them, and that became a thing. You know what I mean? Like, those things became a thing. So then I finally put out 10,000 bars, and once I put out 10,000 bars, I started being.

[Lil Dicky]

You kind of realize that you're like,

[Lil Wayne]

start getting that title. Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

I used to collect all. Didn't you invent the word bling? Bling?

[Lil Wayne]

I did. I didn't invent it, but I said it in a song, and they put it in the dictionary.

[Lil Dicky]

Yeah.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Interviewer Alex]

Wow.

[Benny Blanco]

Oh, my God. I was dating a girl one time, and Lollipop came out. Lollipop. And she goes, man, she's like, lil Wayne's so hot. I want to fuck him. And I got so jealous at the time. It was like, 2008, I think that was.

[Lil Dicky]

I just remember parking that Camry and, like, hearing. I truly remember, like. And I just never heard, like, a. Like, a beat like that. Bangladesh, right?

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah. Bangladesh is a beast.

[Lil Dicky]

And it was so, like, open and, like, hard, and it was just felt totally different.

[Benny Blanco]

Y.

[Lil Dicky]

For me, there's never been the combination of, like, lyricism and swag at one time under the same roof.

[Benny Blanco]

It hits at the same, like, whenever.

[Lil Dicky]

About the hits, the first day it's come. But those two things, like, sometimes if a rapper is really on a lyrical level, they don't have the swag that, like, satisfies my soul.

[Benny Blanco]

Yeah.

[Interviewer Alex]

Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

Your intersection of swag and lyricism is truly a dream.

[Lil Wayne]

Appreciate that. Appreciate that.

[Lil Dicky]

Wayne, I'm gonna be honest with you. Your team's standing in the hallway, they

[Lil Wayne]

say, it's time to die. I get it. Yeah.

[Lil Dicky]

I love you.

[Benny Blanco]

That was amazing.

[Lil Wayne]

This is. I can't believe that you're here without love, man. I appreciate y' all having me.

[Benny Blanco]

Thank you.

[Lil Wayne]

It.