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Sean O'Malley
It's Sean o'.
Interviewer 1
Malley. He's from the Valley. I don't know if this thing is. I don't know.
Sean O'Malley
He'll fight you till you're dead. Can't see.
Interviewer 1
Coley's ready to fight at the White House.
Interviewer 2
Whoa.
Interviewer 3
Today is a very important day. Day. I'm not sure if you're aware. Oh, there's a smudge all over that.
Interviewer 1
Why is it an important day?
Interviewer 3
There's a smudge.
Interviewer 2
Well, you can get Windex.
Interviewer 3
We have our first fighter coming in.
Interviewer 1
I've been here just for that.
Interviewer 3
I'm gonna beat the shit out of you during.
Interviewer 1
Have you ever fought?
Interviewer 3
Yes.
Interviewer 1
I've never fought once.
Interviewer 3
I fought many times.
Interviewer 2
Are you guys gonna fight him?
Interviewer 1
No.
Interviewer 3
Maybe.
Interviewer 2
Maybe you have.
Interviewer 3
If he says something I don't like,
Interviewer 1
this guy's from I don't give a fuck university.
Sean O'Malley
To be a fighter, you gotta be a little crazy.
Interviewer 1
No.
Interviewer 3
Normal.
Interviewer 1
Beat you up.
Sean O'Malley
Not bad. I would grab you and I'd choke you.
Interviewer 3
Oh, my God, that hurt.
Interviewer 1
I might be a better overall athlete
Sean O'Malley
than me, who's your dad.
Interviewer 3
If I put on pad right now and you punched me, you destroyed.
Sean O'Malley
Okay?
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Interviewer 3
That's amazing.
Interviewer 1
We know nothing about you, but I mean that. We know. We know of you, which is so impressive, the fact that we all know who you are. Don't follow the sport necessarily.
Sean O'Malley
I love to hear that.
Interviewer 1
It's like whatever you're doing on a branding perspective, which your wardrobe. Unbelievable.
Sean O'Malley
We appreciate that.
Interviewer 3
We were saying. We were talking about Tommy Lee. You might not even know his band, but you know Tommy Lee because he's like the guy 69 another person. Some people don't know the music at all. You have a six, nine tattoo.
Sean O'Malley
Six' nine tatted six' nine on me.
Interviewer 1
Oh, my God.
Interviewer 3
Really?
Sean O'Malley
Yeah.
Interviewer 1
For Tekashi.
Sean O'Malley
He did it. He did. He did some of it, yeah. Really? Miami, after one of my fights, I was hanging out with Steve. Will do it. He's like, bro, you wanna beat 6ix9ine? I was like, hell, yeah.
Interviewer 2
Were you a fan of his before you met him?
Sean O'Malley
I'd like 6ix9ine.
Interviewer 3
Did you do your hair because of him?
Sean O'Malley
There was a lot of inspiration from six really crazy rainbow colors. Like, there was a lot of inspiration there.
Interviewer 1
Wow.
Interviewer 3
I feel like. That's what I feel like as far as a person who's fully outside the business of ufc. I feel like when you did that, you were on my feed every day from then on.
Interviewer 1
If he wasn't a good fighter, it
Sean O'Malley
wouldn't have been happening that fight I did. That was so. It was Covid. So we were fighting at the apex in Vegas. Where I went from the fight before I was in an arena, like 20,000 people to my next fight was there was like 800 people. Not even that. It was maybe 100 people in the Apex, the UFC. And it was. I knocked this dude out, hit him with a right hand. With the colorful hair.
Interviewer 3
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And he was snoring. You could literally hear him go.
Interviewer 3
No.
Sean O'Malley
Crazy. Yeah.
Interviewer 3
And that's what. Is that what just made you think?
Sean O'Malley
It made it definitely hell.
Interviewer 1
It was just an exciting knockout. Or was this like a big fight? As far as the.
Sean O'Malley
It was my third UFC fight, so it wasn't like a big fight in the rankings. It wasn't for the title. It wasn't this. It was this flashing. Had a lot of hype. Yeah. From coming off the Contender series from Snoop Dogg.
Interviewer 3
Okay.
Sean O'Malley
Did you guys hear this?
Interviewer 1
No.
Sean O'Malley
Just because I'll play two seconds of it.
Interviewer 3
I know what you're gonna do.
Interviewer 1
You have the rights to it, right?
Interviewer 3
Look, I know.
Sean O'Malley
Hey, little dicky in the house. Oh, and I don't wanna play too much. Cause how much copyright there is. But that was when I first walked out. And then fast forward in the fight. I don't remember at what point, but Snoop's Sean Lil Dicky o'.
Interviewer 3
Malley. You didn't know that?
Sean O'Malley
That was crazy.
Interviewer 2
That was sweet.
Sean O'Malley
And this was. This is. This was 2017. I mean, look at me. I look like a fucking. You guys. I literally look like I'm 12.
Interviewer 1
When you saw that for the first time.
Interviewer 2
Well, you do.
Interviewer 1
Were you like, ugh, why did he say little Dicky? Or were you like.
Sean O'Malley
I had gotten that. I was always like, hey, that's a good thing. Oh, yeah, I was happy about that.
Interviewer 3
You're a shot much hotter version of him.
Interviewer 2
You should do Freaky Friday, too. And you guys switch bad.
Interviewer 1
I thought about making an entire album of Freaky Friday. Same beat, 12 straight times, 12 different body switches. But I thought no one on earth would ever.
Interviewer 2
What do you think of.
Interviewer 3
Wait, do you ever get shit when you have the braids?
Sean O'Malley
I never even thought about it.
Interviewer 3
Really?
Sean O'Malley
I didn't even. I mean.
Interviewer 2
Well, now you're gonna think about it.
Sean O'Malley
Well, no, I mean, when I first started braiding my hair, I never. I did.
Interviewer 1
This guy's from I don't give a fuck university.
Sean O'Malley
Am I right? Well, I hate. I can't fight with hair in my eyes. I just. I can't stand it. That was Just so when I started braiding my hair, I was, like, kind of to get out of my eyes, and I felt like I transformed from, like, Sean to, like, Suga. Like, my hair is braided.
Interviewer 3
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
I feel like sugar. I feel like a superhero. I feel extra fast. My head.
Interviewer 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sean O'Malley
Feel faster.
Interviewer 2
So you go out there.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Interviewer 2
Ready to get punched?
Sean O'Malley
Well, I. My main goal in a fight is not to.
Interviewer 2
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
Interviewer 1
So inevitable.
Sean O'Malley
There's been times I've had a lot of fights where I've been able to get out of there unscathed.
Interviewer 2
Never get punched.
Sean O'Malley
I thought that was the whole thing. I mean, the whole thing's like, hit and not get hit. Some people. Most fighters kind of like, oh, I like getting hit. I don't mind getting hit. Fucking hate getting hit. I don't want to get hit.
Interviewer 1
Did you fight a lot as a kid?
Sean O'Malley
No. Football, basketball, soccer. Baseball from when I was, like, three or four years old, all the way up to high school.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
Turned 16. Hated school. Had to get good grades to play, like, basketball, football, school, sports. Hated school. My buddy's like, you want to check out this fighting gym? I'm like, that sounds cool.
Interviewer 1
How old?
Sean O'Malley
I was 16. Super insecure. Never fought.
Interviewer 2
You were athletic?
Sean O'Malley
I was athletic. Super athletic. And I was super insecure. Insecure kid going into high school. They go into my sophomore year, I think, and I was like, well, literally, I was like, one of the first things across my mind, like, girls will think that's cool. Like, that was like. I was like.
Interviewer 3
And you were getting zero girls?
Sean O'Malley
I got a couple. Some of my prime years were high school.
Interviewer 3
They weren't.
Sean O'Malley
There were threes and fours, but.
Interviewer 1
Had you ever gotten in a fist fight before going to that?
Interviewer 3
No, we never even got okay.
Sean O'Malley
I didn't even think of fighting as fighting. Like, I thought of fighting as a sport. I thought of it as like, you know, I'm trying to win. It wasn't like, I want to fucking kill you.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
It was never like that for me.
Interviewer 3
So you get there, and on your first time going, there was it like. Instantly they were like, whoa, that guy's got something.
Sean O'Malley
So When I was 16, 17 years old, I was like, kickboxing with these guys. I was athletically. I was just more athletic, So I was naturally kind of better than these guys. I was beating up guys that sucked. But in my mind, I got this confidence. I was like, holy shit. I'm like, I'm good.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
So I built this confidence. 16, 17, 18 years old in Montana. Fought 15, 20 times, kickboxing, MMA, built this confidence up, came to Arizona and got my ass kicked, literally, for, like, I flew down for two weeks. Every practice, I would cry. I was 18 years old. Cry, cry after practice. I was the man in Montana. I'd come to. I came to Arizona, got my ass kicked every single practice.
Interviewer 1
When you were crying, were you crying out of pain or were you, like, physical pain? Or were you, like, crying out of fear that you actually weren't able to.
Sean O'Malley
It wasn't. There was times where I'd had, like, concussions, and it was physical pain. Concussions are terrifying. Like, if you've had a bad concussion and you just want to be pitch black, you don't want to see any light. Like, I've had bad concussions and. But a lot of the crying was early on, was like, I don't have a plan B. Yeah, I do not want to. I don't like school. Like, I'm not going back to school. I want to be an athlete, thankfully. Ufc, mma, boxing, like, there's weight classes. So I can, you know, I can't be in the NFL. I can't be in the mba. I'm just not skilled and I'm not big enough. That's just not realistic. I was able to, you know, feel those emotions, cry, be like, God. And then I was able to, like, back to the gym tomorrow. Back to the gym tomorrow, 2A days, back to the gym in the morning, go home, take a nap, jack off, go to sleep.
Interviewer 1
I know that routine. Yeah, Yeah. A warrior's spirit.
Sean O'Malley
A warrior's routine.
Interviewer 3
So do you, like, if you get a fight coming up, do you jack off?
Interviewer 1
He does have a fight coming up at the White House.
Sean O'Malley
I do.
Interviewer 3
No, no, I know.
Sean O'Malley
I love that you asked this, though.
Interviewer 3
I know that. Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
So I have two answers for your jack off question. Yeah. I haven't jacked off in a year and a half. Whoa.
Interviewer 3
What? You're having wet dreams though, right?
Sean O'Malley
No, I have a wife. Put a pounding on her. But in camp now, I tell her, I said, you get two nuts out of me a week. Right now in camp, are you limited and you get a Wednesday nut and a Saturday nut?
Interviewer 2
Why?
Sean O'Malley
Because I spar Wednesday. I need my chi. I need my energy.
Interviewer 1
Yeah. Oh, remember what Kevin Gates said?
Interviewer 2
You really feel like if you release, it impacts your game?
Interviewer 1
I think it's scientific.
Sean O'Malley
Well, if you can let your chi build up and you know, Kevin Gates is fucking. Actually, he's got a lot of gems.
Interviewer 1
Oh, yeah.
Sean O'Malley
He drops gems for sure.
Interviewer 3
He's had him on it.
Sean O'Malley
That's incredible.
Interviewer 1
Why don't you tell Kristen about chi?
Interviewer 2
No, I'm just. I can't believe it's because, you know, as a girl, sometimes you get bullied into the whole, like, blue balls, can't focus thing. Not. Dave doesn't do that. I just feel like you hear that so often.
Interviewer 1
Blue balls is different. Blue balls is like tempting a man up until he's about to come and
Interviewer 2
then walk him away.
Interviewer 1
This is just like, not even engaging.
Interviewer 3
Those are horrible.
Interviewer 2
To keep the energy, to keep the focus.
Interviewer 3
So you only. Only come twice a week in camp? Yes, in camp.
Interviewer 1
A lot of athletes are like this. I think it's not his thing.
Interviewer 3
It's. Yeah, I know.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, I would. I would say, I bet if you asked a lot of people that probably don't think of it as. I mean, it is scientific. I think you said it. I think real, keeping your chi. Like, if I jacked off this morning, I'd probably just want to be like, nah, I'm going to kind of chill out la about.
Interviewer 3
So you.
Sean O'Malley
You.
Interviewer 3
You held off for us.
Sean O'Malley
Well, and I haven't. I haven't. I. December 2024, I was going through a bunch of. I have a. A wife, got a couple kids, and we were going through some issues, and it was me just. I'm. I'm. To be a fighter, you gotta be a little crazy anyway, right? Yeah, I was having issues. December 2024, I take these mushrooms. I have this. This. I'm like, okay, I need to. I got off social media. I haven't been on social media.
Interviewer 2
Good for you.
Sean O'Malley
In a year, since December 2024, got off social media, quit jing off. And it really changed my life.
Interviewer 2
That's great.
Sean O'Malley
The social media thing, though. It's like, tell us. You just. See, for me, it's like you just. I get normal levels of horny throughout, like, life. But when I'm on social media, you see all the girls, and it's my biggest weakness. And it's like, I can't help it.
Interviewer 2
What does it make you think? Like, you just think these girls are all so hot that you just have to thrive.
Sean O'Malley
I just want to bury em. Bury my three inches deep in them.
Interviewer 3
Yeah, three.
Interviewer 2
But you find small dick.
Sean O'Malley
No, it's decent. I mean, ours are all probably the same size. Look at her hair.
Interviewer 3
I don't know.
Interviewer 2
I've only seen one.
Interviewer 3
I don't know about that.
Interviewer 1
Well, he says things like, bury them, but he also said 3 inches. But I'm sure I have the smallest tick.
Interviewer 3
Yeah.
Interviewer 2
Cause you have the best.
Interviewer 1
I do. I have the best of all three.
Interviewer 3
For her.
Interviewer 1
For her. And that's what matters.
Sean O'Malley
Everyone's different.
Interviewer 3
So you were impacted sexually by seeing all
Sean O'Malley
just. Just social media in a whole. And, yeah. Like, I have two kids now, and I just. I don't want to be like, if you see someone just kind of, like, surfing, like, what if I see someone just surfing? Like, I don't want to just be doing that. I'd rather. You know, I still watch you. I don't have Instagram, Tick tock, Snapchat, Facebook. I have someone that runs all my stuff.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
I watch YouTube. And I still even almost feel guilty doing that.
Interviewer 3
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
I catch myself. I'm like. I don't even. I'm trying to be. And I'm far from it, but I'm trying to just be more present. Just try. And I think social media is being off that. The older kid, five, and he turns. My little dude turns one this month.
Interviewer 3
Two boys.
Sean O'Malley
Girl and a boy. Yeah.
Interviewer 3
How's it feel?
Sean O'Malley
It's. Dude, it's the best. You guys don't have any kids?
Interviewer 3
No.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah. No, not yet.
Interviewer 2
Someday soon.
Interviewer 3
I'm trying to start an army.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah. That's what I want to do. I want to do it. I want an army. But, yeah, kids are the best. The cool. I've known. I want it. I remember breaking up with a girl when I was in seventh grade because she didn't want kids. I'm like, really?
Interviewer 1
Wow.
Sean O'Malley
Not gonna work. Not gonna work. Amazing. L. I've known I wanted kids for a long time.
Interviewer 1
And how is it? Tell us about it.
Sean O'Malley
It's the best, dude. It's the best. Little. Little Mateo, like, he's got his two. Two teeth right here. Two teeth popping in the top, like. And it's just. It's so. Watching them baby breastfeed, too, there's something about that. It's just so cute. Like, he'll be over there, and Danny will be like, Mateo. And, like, show him a boob, he'll go fucking sprint, like, crawling fast. Latch on. Yeah, but having. Having the right baby mama, having the right partner to raise kids is so, like, I'm so thankful I didn't knock up some random girl. Oh, my God. I would be, like, miserable.
Interviewer 3
Are you? I mean, she's got to be a ride or die because she stuck with you through your trouble.
Sean O'Malley
I put her through a lot. She's the best. I put her through.
Interviewer 3
And you're like. And you're like, now you're, like, repaint. You're doing, like, everything you're doing. I'm doing my best. Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
I'm doing my best.
Interviewer 2
Does she get nervous when you fight?
Sean O'Malley
She actually doesn't really get nervous. She watches me train, and I think there's this confidence she gets from watching me put in the work to where, like, my mom and dad get so nervous because they're never, ever, ever in the gym watching me. They've never seen what I do.
Interviewer 2
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
To where she watches. She watches me spar. She watches me train, and she.
Interviewer 1
She.
Sean O'Malley
So she, like, at the fight, can, like, breathe.
Interviewer 2
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And. And she's watched me win. She's watched me lose, and she's good through it all.
Interviewer 3
So, like, what's going on right now? Are you, like, dieting? Are you.
Sean O'Malley
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Interviewer 3
You are.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah. So right now I'm 160. I weigh 160. What do you have to weigh for the 135?
Interviewer 3
Okay, so this is my favorite thing.
Interviewer 2
You have to. Sorry, you have to lose weight.
Sean O'Malley
I'm 160 right now, and I have to weigh in at 135 the day before the fight.
Interviewer 1
I understand the strategy, but then how is it, like, 12 hours later?
Sean O'Malley
It's like 32 hours or something like that. So you have to fight.
Interviewer 1
You have to get all your energy back.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, I'll go from 135. I'll weigh in at 135, and then by the time I get in the Octagon, I'm about 152, 153. So you gain.
Interviewer 3
And then they don't even re.
Interviewer 1
Weigh them right before. He has, like, 32 hours.
Interviewer 2
Wait, this isn't making. So someone should work on this.
Interviewer 3
Someone should explain that. No, no, explain. So just tell her. I just want you to break down to her what the process is that week leading up to it.
Sean O'Malley
Okay. Okay. So I'll start at 160. Where I'm at right now, I'm gonna lose 10 pounds from dieting, which is horrible because I have to train extremely hard.
Interviewer 2
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And I have to burn more calories than I eat typically right now. Like, I'm gonna be burning a lot of calories. You get hungry, but you have to eat a little bit less than you burn. So I'm gonna go from 160 to 150 in the next five weeks. In the next five weeks.
Interviewer 3
And it's like science, and it's.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, it's very. I'm a nutritionist. I weigh my food it's 160, 150. That's not horrible. That's not like the worst. It's, it's not great because you get, you know, a little bit hungry.
Interviewer 2
Do you feel the calorie, like, deficit?
Sean O'Malley
Yes. But from 150 to 135, fight week is where, you know, you're water loading. You're drinking two gallons of water for four or five days straight and then you cut out salt on that Wednesday before the, with the weigh ins. So you basically, I'm gonna go from 150 to 135 in like four days, roughly.
Interviewer 2
That's a sport within itself.
Interviewer 3
Yes, it is, but it's a science. Let her. So you lose the weight and the saunas and the bath. Explain.
Interviewer 2
Your body becomes like a machine to
Sean O'Malley
like be made into like you're, you literally feel like you're dying. You can feel your heart, like beating out of your chest. It's like when you're on, when I'm actually on weight, it feels like death.
Interviewer 1
Do you dread that part of it more than even the fight?
Sean O'Malley
Yes.
Interviewer 1
It's the worst part of the whole thing.
Sean O'Malley
Worst fight, the whole thing.
Interviewer 2
Does everybody feel that way?
Interviewer 3
Yeah. Remember when the dude was walking that the, the, the dude was walking and just like passed out. Like, what was that dude's name? The. He was like.
Sean O'Malley
That was recent, right? Yeah, I fought on that card. He weighed in right before I was in the back feeling like I'm dying. And he weighed in and passed out right before I went and got on the scale.
Interviewer 2
It's like psychological warfare. Why are they, why are you guys being. Why are you guys putting yourselves?
Sean O'Malley
Because if I don't, I'm at the fight a disadvantage.
Interviewer 2
Is there a solution?
Interviewer 1
Is there a solution?
Sean O'Malley
That's whoever comes up with a solution. There's people. There's like a company in Japan, like one fc, where they try to weigh you in, weigh you randomly throughout camp and you have to fight around that. You can't gain more than 10%. They're trying something.
Interviewer 1
I have a solution.
Sean O'Malley
Let's hear it.
Interviewer 1
Everybody gets weighed right before the fight. Like, they walk up to the arena, you know, they don't make weight then. And then the fight is ruined and they've lost. I know it's a risky proposition.
Sean O'Malley
Risky, but that's not bad.
Interviewer 1
But then no one can change. Then you're never gonna be that weak going anywhere because you have to get off that scale and go fight the guy.
Sean O'Malley
Not a bad idea.
Interviewer 1
So everyone just shows up exactly how they Are they can be professional. Maybe you make like a little bit of buffer. I don't know how much buffer there is between the weight you have to hit. Maybe it's a pound extra buffer.
Sean O'Malley
It's not bad. A deal. Just weigh in right before you get into the oxygen. That would be risky, though. Commercially it would be, but that's not a bad idea.
Interviewer 1
How often are people not making weight?
Sean O'Malley
It's not too bad.
Interviewer 1
I think the solution is a real solution.
Sean O'Malley
Tell Dana I talk to him.
Interviewer 1
But I don't know. I think more. It's so much more logical and of the spirit of what I think sports is, which is you at your highest
Sean O'Malley
level, at your highest performance.
Interviewer 1
If you're weighing the person to understand if it's a fair fight with the weight, it should be like you have to walk in and fight when you're getting that actual number.
Interviewer 2
Maybe there's science behind it. Cause maybe people. Maybe. Maybe if you did it right, then people would, like, do it last minute and then be weak when they fought.
Interviewer 1
Don't you have Dawn?
Interviewer 3
But then you would risk.
Interviewer 1
Then you'd fucking get crushed. You're about to fight at the White House, which has probably never happened before in the history of America. Tell us about that fight.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, I don't know how it came about. Trump's been at multiple of my fights. Like, I've seen him. He's at a lot of fights he's had. He's been at UFC fights for a long time. And I think he told Dana, let's do a fight at the White House. I don't know if he said it jokingly or whatever. Dana. I don't know if you guys know Dana.
Interviewer 1
I don't.
Sean O'Malley
He's intense. Yeah, he's the man. He's just such a cool motherfucker. He's a great boss. He gets shit done. Like during COVID when all the sports shut down, we were still fighting. That's when I fought that kid. When I knocked him out, it was like. And no one was there.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
So he was still letting athletes fight. And during COVID But he's the man. But he's. Trump said he wants to fight at the White House. Dana's like, done. We're making it happen. And that was last year sometime. And now it's. It's on Trump's birthday, June 14th. It's freedom. 250 and.
Interviewer 2
Oh, yeah, 250 years of America.
Interviewer 1
Are you the main event of this fight or not even?
Sean O'Malley
Ilya Toporia vs Justin Gaethje, massive fight. But, yeah, very honored to be on it. It's gonna be legendary. There's only seven fights on the card, which is. Usually there's 12. Only seven? It's outside.
Interviewer 1
Outside? Yeah. Have you ever fought outside like that?
Sean O'Malley
I have fought outside when I was a young amateur, like, 18, 19 years old in Montana. That was the last time I fought outside.
Interviewer 3
Does that affect anything?
Sean O'Malley
It definitely will if it rains, but outside, other than that, I don't know about the heat.
Interviewer 1
Isn't that gonna be a hot summer day?
Sean O'Malley
Will be humid.
Interviewer 1
Yeah. It's like.
Interviewer 2
Are you preparing in saunas? Are you guys, like, fighting in saunas?
Sean O'Malley
No, but I do sauna, like, five times a week. I love my sauna.
Interviewer 2
You can handle the heat.
Interviewer 3
Great.
Interviewer 2
Wait, I have a question about your. The people you fight.
Sean O'Malley
Okay.
Interviewer 2
Are you friends with any of them?
Sean O'Malley
No question. Never.
Interviewer 2
So they're truly, like. In the history of fighting, can you ever be, like, friendly with them?
Sean O'Malley
There's been friends that had to fight. You know, there's. And for me, like, there's guys. I'm in the bantamweight division. The division I'm in, I'm ranked number three. Like, my buddy Mario is ranked number seven. Like, there's guys in my division that, like, there's. It's possible. I mean, I feel like I'm in a position to. Where I'm like, I really. I wouldn't really ever have to.
Interviewer 1
Do you avoid friendships? Because you don't even want to have that in your head when you're fighting these guys.
Sean O'Malley
Not really. Like, the chances of you two friends actually having to fight are very slim. Like, I'm surprised.
Interviewer 1
Why aren't you guys all hanging out?
Interviewer 2
Because you guys all know. You all know of each other, and
Sean O'Malley
there's just so many gyms across America, across the world.
Interviewer 1
Really.
Sean O'Malley
Like, there's guys that live in Russia and Thailand.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
All over the world.
Interviewer 3
Have you been number one?
Sean O'Malley
I was champ. I was champ. Defended the belt. So you've been highest level.
Interviewer 3
You've been number one. So is that, like.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, I'm number three right now. I was number one August 2023. I won the belt, defended it March 2024, lost it in June of last year.
Interviewer 1
How heartbreaking is it to lose the belt?
Sean O'Malley
I mean, losing the belt sucked, but just losing in general, it just fucking sucked. Losing it was hard.
Interviewer 3
How many times have you lost?
Sean O'Malley
Twice.
Interviewer 3
You only lost?
Sean O'Malley
Yeah. The. I mean, depends. Twice is the real answer. Yes.
Interviewer 1
Well, that's the controversy.
Interviewer 3
The other real answer?
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
So my fourth UFC fight, I fought This. I fought Cheeto Vera. He kicked this nerve on my knee right here. It's like this weird little nerve.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And my foot went numb.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And like I literally kept rolling my ankle and it's. I hate watching it back because I literally. My foot, I didn't have a hole in my sock. I didn't have this motion. Yeah. Because the nerve shut off. So every time I'd walk, I'd roll my ankle bad.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And like I went to punch, fell on my back. He elbowed me in the head. They stopped the fight.
Interviewer 1
Yeah. And I get why you don't count that as a loss.
Sean O'Malley
And I always, I kept saying this happened in 2000, 20, 20. And I kept saying, I'm like, I'm better than that motherfucker. He got lucky. Blah, blah, blah. First title defense. He wins a fight, he gets a title shot. I'm the champ at the time. And we have the rematch. The biggest gate in Miami history. Amazing, massive, sold out arena. Huge fight. Yeah. He's from Ecuador and like Miami, that, that side, it was massive fight. And I beat the out of him for 25 minutes. And it felt so that was the only time I actually had. Like, I want to hurt someone. I didn't like him.
Interviewer 2
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
Because in the first fight, how it played out, he was acting like he was this man.
Interviewer 3
He beat me and you beat the out of.
Sean O'Malley
So I don't count that as a loss.
Interviewer 3
But what happens?
Interviewer 1
Did you win that fight? A 25 minute fight.
Sean O'Malley
You beat the out of him.
Interviewer 3
Oh, yeah. Were you so happy?
Sean O'Malley
It felt so good.
Interviewer 1
And was ever.
Interviewer 3
Was it like electric?
Sean O'Malley
It was like a four year build up of me saying that got lucky. I'm better than him. And people are like, why don't you have a rematch? I'm like, he doesn't deserve the. He won. I'm like, he doesn't deserve a rematch. Like he's. I didn't like how he was acting. He was acting like he beat me, like he was the man. And I beat the. Oh, dude. It was the craziest knee. I'm up knee.
Interviewer 3
I saw your knee.
Interviewer 2
To what? Knee to what?
Interviewer 1
Head chin.
Interviewer 3
When you stood up just now, I heard both your knees crack. Is that gonna be an issue?
Sean O'Malley
Okay, I'm gonna show you all this. What? You hear that?
Interviewer 1
But isn't there something or even if you're defending yourself, you're not.
Interviewer 2
Did his face concave? Did it all concave?
Interviewer 3
Wow, he looks so cool. Oh, my God.
Sean O'Malley
Just watch it. 1. This is the guy that I can't watch.
Interviewer 1
That's brutal.
Interviewer 3
Whoa. Oh.
Interviewer 1
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Interviewer 3
Why are you talking like that?
Interviewer 1
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Interviewer 2
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Interviewer 1
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Interviewer 2
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Interviewer 3
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Interviewer 1
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Interviewer 3
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Interviewer 2
I have to commit.
Interviewer 3
How do you feel about buying me?
Interviewer 2
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Interviewer 1
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Interviewer 3
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Interviewer 1
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Interviewer 2
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Interviewer 1
Oh, yeah.
Interviewer 2
I've been taking pictures of places in our house, and I ask it to. I prompt it, and I say, can you redesign the space for me? And I have a lot to show the two of you.
Interviewer 1
Oh, really? Like what part of the home?
Interviewer 2
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Interviewer 1
So you. So Canva is telling you options?
Interviewer 2
I guess it's helping us.
Interviewer 1
Is it telling you prices?
Interviewer 2
Not yet.
Interviewer 1
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Interviewer 3
has anyone ever died in the.
Sean O'Malley
In the UFC? I don't think so. In fighting in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Interviewer 2
There's, like, points involved in different. Like, you go in kind of having, like, a choreographed plan.
Sean O'Malley
You can have, like, a plan. Mike Tyson says everyone has a plan to get punched in the face.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And that's kind of true. But there's game plans you want to stick to. Like, certain styles match up against different people. And, like, I've had so many fights in the ufc, and this guy I'm fighting has had so many fights in the ufc. You could watch enough film that you get, you know, people have patterns. People have, like, do this, do certain things. So there's game plans you can make according to how people fight.
Interviewer 1
Are some people known as great game planners? And that's their thing where some people are just great, tough guys and they can't get knocked down. Yeah. What's the.
Interviewer 2
Is anyone known for their knee? That guy's got the boniest knee. And if you get hit by him, you're done.
Sean O'Malley
I'm sure you guys saw Jorge Masvidal when he knocked out Ben Asker. He was like, it was three second fight. Yeah, literally five. He ran. That's a legendary knee that.
Interviewer 3
Have you ever gotten, like hit in the face and you're like, in the ring and you just rocked your world and you're just like, oh, my God. Like, and it's like early in the fight and you're like, how am I gonna.
Interviewer 1
What's the feeling in your head when you just got rocked like that? You're still up and the guy's coming at you, what's going through your head
Sean O'Malley
there is so that Peter Yan, the guy that's the champ right now. When I fought him in Abu Dhabi in the second round, I came out, boom, cracked him hard, rocked him, hit him with the right hand, dropped him. Fast forward like 45 seconds, we're both standing there and he hits me with a left hand. And you literally see it's right on the chin. You see my head completely turn all the way around. And that was probably the hardest I've been hit. But it didn't hurt.
Interviewer 1
When you think back to this moment,
Interviewer 2
I don't even know if I think
Interviewer 1
back to this moment. That's a good question. How do you not cry when you think back to this moment? Is it like a flash? The way, like if I drank a little and I woke up the next day and I don't remember a certain thing, like, are you able to actually remember the moment specifically or not really?
Sean O'Malley
It's pretty blurry. It's very blurry.
Interviewer 3
Yeah. If me and Dave stood up right now, like, and like punched the air, would you be able to tell, like, who a better fighter was or. No, not, not really.
Sean O'Malley
No. Probably not. No. Because that doesn't. Sometimes it comes down to who's got more heart.
Interviewer 3
Okay, okay, okay. You go.
Interviewer 1
We get one.
Interviewer 3
No, no, no, no. You get to do. Do a little dance. No.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah.
Interviewer 1
10 seconds.
Interviewer 3
Okay.
Interviewer 2
Okay, I'm gonna do it too.
Sean O'Malley
Throw your southpaw. Are you right handed? Left handed.
Interviewer 3
You can't see.
Sean O'Malley
Okay, not bad. Decent.
Interviewer 2
Wow.
Sean O'Malley
Oh, that's good.
Interviewer 3
Is it footwork?
Interviewer 1
What?
Sean O'Malley
Damn, that's not bad.
Interviewer 3
Okay, that's what I got.
Sean O'Malley
It was semi slow until you. But when the right hook was decent,
Interviewer 1
you go, fast twitch.
Sean O'Malley
I sell the fast twitch.
Interviewer 3
I want Kristen. I want Kristen too.
Interviewer 2
After you fainted.
Interviewer 3
Okay. Okay. But did it feel like, was it hard?
Interviewer 1
I was. I'm not.
Interviewer 3
I was Just stressed.
Sean O'Malley
So you're southpaw, too?
Interviewer 3
Interesting. Yeah, I'm southpaw.
Sean O'Malley
He was, too.
Interviewer 3
Okay, so.
Sean O'Malley
Oh, wow. Okay. You're more. I love Mike Tyson style.
Interviewer 1
Whoa.
Sean O'Malley
Okay, that wasn't bad.
Interviewer 1
I'm more jiu jitsu or whatever, you
Sean O'Malley
know, more just martial. You're more of a long fighter. He was more of like a Mike Tyson. All right, let's see. Damn, she looked tall. I mean, the. There was no left hand. There was only right hand.
Interviewer 3
At least we know we're in a higher. We know we're like, that's all one Now. I will tell you one thing that made me tired. That got me tired. How many seconds was that?
Sean O'Malley
About five. Okay.
Interviewer 2
It did make me sweat.
Interviewer 3
How exhausting. I'm actually like. Like, my arms are tired right now.
Sean O'Malley
It's the most exhausting sport in the world. Are you arms tired?
Interviewer 2
When I took boxing once. Here's the thing I really did like, is like, you are. It's like, there's like a cory. Well, it's not the same as boxing.
Sean O'Malley
The same.
Interviewer 3
No.
Interviewer 1
You're doing a lesson where you're like, lean left, hit.
Interviewer 2
Yeah, I love it. It was like, he's doing box cardio.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, a workout.
Interviewer 3
Boxing workout.
Interviewer 2
I was actually in a boxing gym.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, A lot of people do. They don't fight or they don't, you know, want to fight, but they do workouts for boxing because it's so exhausting.
Interviewer 2
I'm so tired, I had to sit down.
Interviewer 3
I got two things. One thing is, like, you, like, so, like, right now, just, like, looking at you, you look like. Just a bitch. You look kind of just like a normal dude. Like, you don't have, like, the biggest, like, your trainer. Like, I'm like, whoa, that guy's huge. But, like, you have, like, a normal arm. Like, so what? So it doesn't. The big guy. It doesn't.
Interviewer 1
There's a whole. You know, there's different weight classes.
Interviewer 3
I'm aware. But, like. But, like, you're not like, the most, like, cut up?
Sean O'Malley
Yeah.
Interviewer 3
Like, do you have, like, six fast?
Sean O'Malley
No, I'm just fast.
Interviewer 3
Can you punch the air?
Sean O'Malley
I just gotta watch you right now. Right now. I'm not, like, too fast, but. Yeah, just do it slow and, like, just.
Interviewer 3
Can you punch the air one time?
Sean O'Malley
I mean, you put me on the spot.
Interviewer 3
Yeah. Punch me in the face.
Sean O'Malley
Sometimes I play pickleball.
Interviewer 3
Now, if I stood up, like, right here, and you, like, what are you most known for? Your kick or your punch?
Sean O'Malley
I would say most known for Right hand. Knock people out.
Interviewer 1
So, like, I knew that about you.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, that's a peripheral fan. I knew that.
Interviewer 3
Let's go right now.
Sean O'Malley
Like, I have pretty big hands, too. Like, I'm pretty good.
Interviewer 3
Yeah. I noticed it when you came in. They're big hands.
Interviewer 1
Oh, my God. You're a freak.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah.
Interviewer 1
Pretty big hands.
Interviewer 3
No.
Interviewer 1
Why are they so big for each other?
Sean O'Malley
Just for knock people out.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, Me.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah.
Interviewer 3
Now, let me see. So my thing is. My thing is right now, right now, if you, like, punched me in the face, like, full punch, Am I dead?
Sean O'Malley
No, the thing, like, if you knew I was gonna punch you, it probably wouldn't be as bad as if you know the punch.
Interviewer 3
I think it would be just as
Interviewer 2
bad if you punch me, I would die.
Sean O'Malley
I don't know if I could kill someone with a punch.
Interviewer 2
What do you mean?
Interviewer 3
You made that grown man snore.
Sean O'Malley
I think Francis Ngannou, you guys know, I think he would kill me.
Interviewer 3
Don't punch me. Yeah, I just want to see. No, no, I just want to see, like, what it's like.
Sean O'Malley
Oh, yeah.
Interviewer 3
Oh, my God. Even like that. Even that little moment, it rocked me a little sometimes.
Sean O'Malley
Like, it's like these shots.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah. Oh, I feel.
Interviewer 1
I feel.
Sean O'Malley
Let me do that to you. It's like you kind of like, when you get hit up. That's a weird spot to get hit percentage.
Interviewer 2
I have a bony hat.
Interviewer 3
I feel like, weirdo. If you did that to me, I think at 15%, I might.
Interviewer 1
You die.
Interviewer 3
I'd have to, like, lay down.
Sean O'Malley
The weirdest ones are the liver shots getting hit in the pocket.
Interviewer 3
Oh, yeah. But Ryan Garcia, whenever I was at that fight. Dude, I was at the fight when Ryan Garcia got that.
Sean O'Malley
Wait, so show me that it shuts you down.
Interviewer 3
Oh, my God.
Interviewer 2
Do you think I was like, look, I'm gonna give it all up and train as hard as I can for the next, like, two years. At 36, I'm kind of athletic sometimes. I mean, that was a bad display. I'm not really sure the technique.
Sean O'Malley
I'll say this. If you took jiu jitsu, straight Jiu jitsu, where Jiu jitsu is, like, kind of like on the ground where you can submit people and you could choke people.
Interviewer 2
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
You took jiu jitsu for two years. Took it dead serious. And he didn't do anything. You could. You would be able to beat him up.
Interviewer 3
Wow.
Interviewer 2
Do you think I could fight in the girls?
Sean O'Malley
The girls? The girls are getting good. Like, below the guys.
Interviewer 2
Ish.
Sean O'Malley
Not like nowadays the Girls are fucking sick.
Interviewer 1
Maybe this is a totally inappropriate question. If there was a girl who was the best girl, who was in a much heavier weight class than you, do you have a shot?
Sean O'Malley
Yes.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, you'll win.
Interviewer 2
It's just like the difference between.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, yeah.
Interviewer 3
Well, it's just. Yeah.
Interviewer 2
So same rules too.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah. These girls get fucking. The girls don't really knock each other out too much either, so it's almost more brutal.
Interviewer 3
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
Because they just fucking hit each other
Interviewer 2
probably really quick too.
Interviewer 3
Do you think if, if, if, if I trained for like a year and I like went under your guys. Tutelage.
Interviewer 2
Tutelage.
Interviewer 3
Do you think there's a world where, like, I'm like fucking a dude up in the street?
Sean O'Malley
100%. Really? It doesn't take. If you. It depends how your level of commitment. If you're going to the gym twice a day for a year.
Interviewer 3
Twice a day.
Sean O'Malley
Is that a lot?
Interviewer 3
What are you talking about? Twice a day.
Sean O'Malley
Twice a day. I mean, that's what it takes, like, to get good.
Interviewer 3
I mean, like. I mean like I'm going like three times a week.
Sean O'Malley
If you did three times a week for a year, you could get good. Yeah, 100% a day.
Interviewer 3
You fucking outta.
Sean O'Malley
That was crazy.
Interviewer 3
Twice a day. Twice a day. I'd be dead.
Interviewer 1
But all that training can't get him courage.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, there's something that takes good courage.
Interviewer 3
So do you.
Interviewer 1
I do not have good courage.
Interviewer 3
Not in fighting. But you have good life courage that
Interviewer 1
I think could transfer 0% fight courage. Never been in a fight. Never could imagine it. I can't.
Interviewer 3
I've never been in a fight outside the ring.
Sean O'Malley
No, never. But the same way I couldn't grab a mic and I hate. I wish I could sing. I wish I could perform. I wish I could rap. I wish I could.
Interviewer 1
I guess I have courage there.
Sean O'Malley
I could not even stand in front of a crowd with a microphone.
Interviewer 1
I forgot about that.
Interviewer 3
But you're not nervous at all when
Sean O'Malley
you go butt naked almost in the octagon? Yeah.
Interviewer 1
Do you hate that? I always think when I watch these fighters fight because I used to have such bad body acne until I was like 32 years old. And I always thought, oh my God, I would be so exposed. Just like I used to do concerts and I would have to wear. I wore baseball jerseys because I could show a little bit of skin without having people see my back. And sometimes a crowd would chant, take it off, take it off. Do something on stage.
Interviewer 3
Do some. Some.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, some people do.
Interviewer 3
Do any guys wear Body makeup.
Sean O'Malley
I don't think so. Okay. Maybe when you're in there, you don't give off. You're right.
Interviewer 2
You don't get, like, spray tan.
Sean O'Malley
You wear a cup. I have been hitting the nuts and it's. Getting hit in the nuts is horrible. I'm sure you got even with the cup.
Interviewer 2
Even with a cup, it's illegal.
Sean O'Malley
You can't hit in the nuts. You can't. Eye gouge. You can't put your, you know, Can't. Fish hook.
Interviewer 2
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
No. Thumbs in the butt.
Interviewer 3
Thumbs in the middle. I don't know if that's a thumb in the butt is a rule very frowned upon.
Sean O'Malley
I don't know if it is. It's probably frowned upon.
Interviewer 2
No licking, no biting.
Sean O'Malley
No licking, no biting, no spitting.
Interviewer 3
Like, here's what I would do. Okay. Here's my thing. I'm coming in.
Interviewer 1
He's gonna run around like this.
Interviewer 3
No, I'm coming in like. And I'm. And I'm. I'm stinking like shit.
Sean O'Malley
Okay.
Interviewer 3
Like, I've been asked this before.
Sean O'Malley
Is that a benefit?
Interviewer 3
Is there a benefit to stink like shit?
Sean O'Malley
I wonder if you'd want. If they'd want to beat the fuck out of you more.
Interviewer 3
Really?
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
You can't get beaten by some of that stink.
Interviewer 2
They're not like. They're so in the zone, you probably can't even smell.
Interviewer 3
Is it to your advantage, like, if you're like, really a sweaty guy and the punches, like, fly off?
Sean O'Malley
I mean, more so in the wrestling grappling department, but striking, not as much.
Interviewer 3
Are you sweaty?
Sean O'Malley
I don't. I sweat, I would say average amount.
Interviewer 2
You ever had a headache before entering it?
Sean O'Malley
Oh, I've been fucked. A lot of fights. I've had injuries, really.
Interviewer 2
And you just have to.
Interviewer 3
You ever have to take a shit or something? You're like, my stomach just feels not, like, as good as I was.
Sean O'Malley
I once did reflex a little bit. There's multiple times, like, up and again. It's the re. Like cutting all that weight so crazy on your body and the rehydration. It's like it. Your body up. So there's been times where you're say, oh, God, I don't feel great.
Interviewer 2
But you get a surge of adrenaline, like, when you, like, step out.
Sean O'Malley
I. I feel like, adrenaline in the octagon a little bit, but not too much. Like, I'm pretty calm. Like, if you watch my fights, might watch my walkouts. I'm very. I kind of have this. You're in the calm demeanor. It's like, yeah, I'm pretty now.
Interviewer 3
Now after the fight, you just won't. What are you doing after the fight?
Sean O'Malley
I love a shower after I win. Oh, I just smile so.
Interviewer 3
It's the shack.
Sean O'Malley
It's the Shack after fight, after win. The lost showers are not. They're just like. You've only just sit in there. Yeah, they suck. But after win showers.
Interviewer 3
What are you doing?
Sean O'Malley
Oh, I talked to myself. I'm like, we did it looking in the mirror.
Interviewer 3
Are you in the bath? Are you like. Are you like even washing yourself or no, you're just showering?
Sean O'Malley
I'm a little bit sober because I watch it when you go to club after, you know, so you get shit.
Interviewer 3
Are you just like, I'm the fucking man.
Sean O'Malley
Oh, yeah. You feel, dude, after a win, you make a fuck ton of money. You just won a fight that you've been training for for eight weeks.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And it's all over. The sense of relief. Yeah, it probably feels like it after like a concert or something. Like just sense of relief way more.
Interviewer 3
It's like everything. So do you have sex that night or no?
Sean O'Malley
Oh, hopefully with lots of sex. Really? You're not too t. No, for sex?
Interviewer 2
Yeah, after, like, he's been on a regimen.
Interviewer 1
You guys want to sit on the couch?
Interviewer 2
Yeah. Floyd's a boxer, right? Yes, he's a boxer.
Interviewer 1
He's never lost.
Interviewer 2
He's never lost.
Interviewer 1
Never lost.
Interviewer 3
Would you ever fight Floyd Mayweather?
Sean O'Malley
Oh, 100% I would. I mean, boxer fight. Well, there's boxing. Even though he's like fucking 150, he's still so good.
Interviewer 3
He's still practicing. Is he your same weight class or he's a little more.
Sean O'Malley
He's probably the same. He's pretty short, but we're probably like, I'm super skinny today.
Interviewer 3
Yeah.
Interviewer 1
Speaking of sports and random sports, even though it's not that random, every four years, you know, we got big soccer matches. I think it's okay to call them matches. And what I like to do is I like to go on FanDuel Predict's app and just predict the outcome and win. Obviously, I'm from America. I'm American made. And USA has Paraguay coming up. So I don't know if I'm just being naive or if I'm that big of a patriot, but I think we're going to win. That's my prediction. So I'm going to go on FanDuel app. I'm going to make this FanDuel prediction. I stand to win. These are real stakes and this is real life, and I'm gonna win, and so is America.
Interviewer 3
But you can't. You can't. You couldn't be boxers, could you?
Sean O'Malley
At a certain level, yeah. I came from kickboxing. Boxing. My background's more of a boxing.
Interviewer 3
But, like, you would destroy Floyd Mayweather in a fight? In ufc? In, like, ufc, like, within a couple minutes. Yeah, he couldn't, but in boxing, like, he'd still probably take.
Sean O'Malley
It'd be interesting. He's getting older.
Interviewer 3
Yeah.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
You know what I mean?
Interviewer 2
You ever get scared, like, are you ever at home and you hear, like, a sound and you think, oh, no.
Sean O'Malley
Yes. Cause I have kids.
Interviewer 2
Okay. But, you know, you could just beat anybody up.
Interviewer 3
Not if they have a gun.
Sean O'Malley
Guns.
Interviewer 2
So you could kick the gun out before they could even. Yeah.
Interviewer 3
Like, yeah, you got a gun.
Sean O'Malley
Oh, I got multiple guns. Yeah, I got. I got a. Yeah. I still get scared more so from the guy.
Interviewer 2
Have you ever walked down the street and been like, that man is huge. I'm scared of him?
Sean O'Malley
Not really. I've never had issues outside. Like, if I ever went to a club or something, I've never had issues. Everyone's pretty nice for the most.
Interviewer 3
No one's gonna wanna press Emmys, but
Interviewer 2
I feel like drunk people would come up to you all the time and be like, can I?
Sean O'Malley
I've had it, like, once or twice. I feel like, am I. I just avoid it. I don't like calling it.
Interviewer 3
Yeah.
Interviewer 1
I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more with you because you're so well known. Guys get drunk and you're just not physically that big. So there's probably a lot of. A lot of big dudes.
Sean O'Malley
I'm surprised it doesn't happen as much either. I'd like to think when I get. If I do. I don't drink that often.
Interviewer 3
Very rarely.
Sean O'Malley
But if I do, I feel. I'm just like, I wanna hug you. I'm like, let's go.
Interviewer 3
Like, you can't. It's like, if a guy like, no. Norma. Can beat you up, a normal person,
Sean O'Malley
like, no, it's not as trained. Yeah.
Interviewer 3
Like, if there's a dude, even, like an NBA player that's not trained, like, if a guy's like six six and he's like an NBA player, like, he
Sean O'Malley
can't beat you up, it'd be interesting. I mean, they would get tired.
Interviewer 3
I talked to Ryan. I asked Ryan. Cause we were with Ryan and we was talking about Jimmy Butler, and he's like, yeah. He's like, I beat the shit. He's like. He said there's a certain point when weight becomes an issue. He said, like, Shaq would be hard, but he's like. Honestly, he said it wouldn't be that hard. He's like. Cause as long as you. He said what he would do is he was like, I would just defend myself. Because any guy, unless you're a trained fighter, you're getting tired very quickly.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, well, Ryan. Ryan can't fight. He can box.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
Interviewer 3
Oh, question. So you see a guy like Wiz Khalifa.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah.
Interviewer 3
Okay. And he does. What's he doing?
Sean O'Malley
Yep, he's training.
Interviewer 3
Is that mma?
Sean O'Malley
It looks like he's doing. I'm not Muay Thai kicking stuff. Looks like he's training.
Interviewer 3
So, like. Like, a guy like that, if you, like, spar with him, like, and you're going, like, 25% of how people go in his. Will he be able to, like, do it with you without getting, like, incredibly hurt?
Sean O'Malley
If I didn't want to hurt him, I wouldn't. Yeah, yeah.
Interviewer 3
Like, if he, like, could you go at 25%? And he's. And it's like, if you wanted to
Interviewer 1
hurt him at 25%, he's basically saying. It's a ridiculous. Basically saying 25% of you.
Interviewer 3
No. I was wondering, like, pickleball is a sport where if someone walks on, they can play almost with anyone immediately. Like, I'm saying, if somebody starts training and they've been training for a little while and they get in, can they, like, do a spar thing? And not trying to. Not saying they're gonna beat you, but are they, like, will they be capable enough to, like, do something that's, like, fun for everyone?
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, I think so.
Interviewer 3
Yeah. That's all I wanted.
Interviewer 1
I'm not a violent person in any way. I never have any, like, desire to be violent. But I do have this fantasy of being in a situation in life where somebody is in the wrong, and we're, like, in a street.
Sean O'Malley
When I envision it, I like this.
Interviewer 1
And I just slap the man across the face as hard as I can, and people see it, and everyone is so happy that I slapped him. It's so justified. And I walk away, and he doesn't do anything. And that's it.
Sean O'Malley
Just a hero moment.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, there's a slap.
Interviewer 3
That slap was so not convincing, I think.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah. Slapping someone's not as. I feel, like, illegal. Like, if I wanted to punch someone, it would probably fall. But if I slap someone, it's like, you're a bitch.
Interviewer 1
But on the note of illegal, remember how I asked you if it was illegal? You're like, if I do it, it's illegal. But boxers have to have their registered. Or is that just a matter?
Sean O'Malley
I would assume there's some truth to it, that if you're a professional fighter, that you're considered a weapon or something.
Interviewer 1
Basically, if he got in a fight, in a street fight and he didn't ask for it, but he got in the fight and he knocked the guy out, boom. Even though it was self defense and the guy actually died, oh, he might have worse litigious situation.
Interviewer 2
Like you're not supposed to because his
Interviewer 1
hands are maybe a deadly weapon. Yeah. I don't know if it applies to you.
Sean O'Malley
I remember hearing that. It's funny, I remember hearing that, like, when I was like 16, 17 years old when I first started training, they're like, oh, now you can't get in street fights because you're considered a weapon. I'm like, I remember hearing that. There's quite some truth to it because you just don't.
Interviewer 1
It's hard to draw the line of, like, what's gonna win me this fight first? Knock this guy out first, accidentally kill this guy.
Sean O'Malley
The thing about being so high level, though, is like, if I got in a street fight, I would. I wouldn't punch somebody. I might hit him in the body, might hit him with a liver shot where they just crumble. Or I'd realistically take someone down and. And put them in a submission kind of to where they defend, take their back, choke them, say, what's the best thing? Who's your daddy? Yeah, who's your daddy? To say that.
Interviewer 3
What's the best thing we could do if we got into a fight? Like, what's our. What's. Hit him in the balls.
Interviewer 1
Submission. Submission.
Sean O'Malley
Balls. I mean, I just, I. If you. I would just need to learn Jiu Jitsu, everyone. Yeah, I do Jiu Jitsu. Jiu Jitsu is the best. Like, my daughter's in Jiu Jitsu. She's five. Jiu Jitsu's Giselle. Who's that?
Interviewer 2
Giselle.
Interviewer 1
Tom Brady's. That's.
Sean O'Malley
And that's how she met her voice.
Interviewer 2
I loved it. I was.
Interviewer 1
If I walked behind you and you had no idea.
Interviewer 3
Oh, wow.
Interviewer 1
And I put you.
Sean O'Malley
I'd go like this.
Interviewer 1
No, don't do anything.
Interviewer 3
That's what I would do instantly.
Sean O'Malley
I would go like this and cover my neck and grab your arm. So you can't joke me.
Interviewer 1
You know how, like, There are, like, races.
Interviewer 2
Well, they're like this all the time.
Interviewer 1
Like when you go on a race and like, a fast burner might give a guy a head start and still win the race. If you gave me the head start of choking you as hard as I can, would you have no doubt that you'd still end up in top in like, five seconds?
Interviewer 2
You guys look cute. It's like a nice. It looks like tv.
Interviewer 3
I just saw him in that moment. I just saw you switch and your eyes, you were going like this. You were like. And you were looking around. Were you, like, assessing the situation?
Sean O'Malley
I mean, instantly, if someone were like. Like, first thing you're doing is grabbing the hand on the neck because you need this arm to choke me. That was the first thing I would do, is grab that hand.
Interviewer 3
Even me.
Interviewer 2
What should she do that?
Interviewer 3
What should she do? If a man comes up and were to try something, what's the first thing she should do?
Sean O'Malley
Elbow to the nuts, probably.
Interviewer 3
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
Like, if possible. Well, if he comes up, like, behind you, like, kind of grabbed you, I would. I mean, I would. Whatever where he's at, hit him in the nuts, and that would be, like, probably the number one thing.
Interviewer 2
But I'd have to hit really hard.
Sean O'Malley
I mean, that's not a good situation. But if you had a blue belt, if you did jiu jitsu for two years, I would be very confident that you would be able to submit, like, an average size nail.
Interviewer 2
Wait, what if I have a box cutter?
Interviewer 1
Wow.
Sean O'Malley
Box cutter would be nice.
Interviewer 3
Cutter.
Sean O'Malley
It's submission.
Interviewer 3
So, like, what's it look like? What do I.
Sean O'Malley
So if we were doing jiu jitsu, we would just like, kind of slap hands and then we would, like, we'd go live. So basically, I would try to take you down, or you would try to take me down.
Interviewer 3
Oh, is this the one where you go like this, or. No, that's more wrestling.
Sean O'Malley
It's wrestling, but with submission. So if I grabbed your head like this, for instance, I would grab you and I'd choke you.
Interviewer 3
Oh, my God.
Interviewer 2
That's fine. When you say submission, you just mean someone's gotta submit.
Sean O'Malley
Someone to tap out. Yes, they gotta submit. I give up.
Interviewer 1
I lose.
Interviewer 2
So what if that person doesn't want to give up?
Interviewer 1
Then they'll fail.
Sean O'Malley
Then you choke them out unconscious. And they go.
Interviewer 1
And the ref goes. The ref goes.
Interviewer 3
You know, instantly when he did that, I feel a soreness right here.
Sean O'Malley
So if you're like, chokes, oil.
Interviewer 3
And so I. Jiu jitsu is the best form of, like, self defense, 100%.
Interviewer 1
Have you been just chomping at the bit to get that belt back?
Sean O'Malley
It's been. So I lost the belt and then I fought for it again. I felt the same guy, had a rematch. He beat me again.
Interviewer 1
What's this man's name?
Sean O'Malley
Murab. And he's a nice guy from Georgia. Noses, Devosh, wheelie.
Interviewer 3
Okay.
Sean O'Malley
He's a Georgian guy. I fought him. The first fight was a close fight. I. It was a very close fight. I almost hit him in the body. In the fifth round. In the title fight, you fight for 25 minutes. There's five, five minute rounds. At the end of the fifth round, I was hitting him in the body shot. He's running around the cage. I almost got him out of there, almost had him, lost a decision, had a rematch with. So that fight, I went into the fight with a torn labrum in my hip. I literally had surgery scheduled for the week after the fight because I thought might have torn labrum in my hip.
Interviewer 3
Okay.
Sean O'Malley
Got surgery, recovered for surgery, fought him again. The timing was, I was so antsy and I wanted to get back so bad and it was just like I got, I rushed myself.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And he, he defended the belt. He fought another really, really tough guy. So he's active, he's training, he's winning fights. I booked the second fight with him. He actually choked me. I tapped out. Yeah. And that sucked.
Interviewer 3
Do you think you can beat him?
Sean O'Malley
Yes, I know, but are you just,
Interviewer 1
like, you know, restless until you're back on top? Are you like, does that mindset just take over your. Like, for me, I'm just like, until I prove myself and all these things, like, I can't rest. Are you. Or do you feel like you've already proved yourself? One time you were at the top and now everything else is kind of icing.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, that's a great question. And it is a little bit of both. There's like, I wanted, like, I just fought in January. I was coming off the two losses in a row and I'd never come off two losses in a row. And there was this like, desire, like, I have to fucking get a win. Like, I, I was, I was associating too much with like, being a fighter. But I also, I feel like, understand that happiness is a skill. And it's like what I let my brain think of. And, and like, if I'm constantly just like, dwelling on that, I definitely feel anxious. I'm like. Or if I'm like, okay, be grateful for what I already have. Be grateful for where I'm at, I have fucking just built a crazy house. I have these kids, I have, I'm married. Like, life's good. If I can be in that mindset more, I'm definitely more at peace. But it's like it switches throughout days, weeks. It's like I need to get that win back. So it's kind of both.
Interviewer 1
Are you projecting? Like, you know, cause you're a professional athlete. There's a shelf life of an age.
Sean O'Malley
Absolutely.
Interviewer 1
So are you always thinking about what am I going to do when I'm full 40 and up and thinking about just obviously you've built a brand.
Interviewer 2
Like, when do you stop? Like when, when, when do most people stop?
Sean O'Malley
Everyone's different. I'm 31 right now. I could literally fight. Like there's Daniel Cormier won the heavyweight belt when he was 39.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
Or 40.
Interviewer 2
Like that's younger. No, not that old.
Sean O'Malley
Very old for fighting. Fighting is a young man's sport. Like 25, 26. Like these killers are coming up and they're getting better, Younger.
Interviewer 2
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
So I'm 31 right now and it's so hard to say like, like where it is. I could have one more fight. I could have two more fights. I could have 10 more fights. Yeah, like, I really don't know. It depends on how my body feels.
Interviewer 2
Like you're not really thinking about it. Like you're going in like you're taking each fight as a fight at a time.
Sean O'Malley
But there is thoughts. It's like, okay, like how like this training, brutal. Training camp's brutal. Cutting weight is horrible.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
I don't have to fight anymore. I do it because I love it. And I was watching this Conor McGregor documentary last night. I was actually watching a little bit of this morning for inspiration, motivation. Like, like Conor always is like, I feel like I'm so lucky because I've been in the sport. I watched Conor from when he got into the UFC to where he's at now, watched his rise and I get this, like, and I was watching him just at the weigh ins from when he fought Jose Aldo sold out arena in Vegas. And it's like I still crave that. I still want that.
Interviewer 3
Of course.
Sean O'Malley
So it's still there.
Interviewer 3
Yeah, yeah. Everyone gets, you know, that feeling. It never goes away.
Sean O'Malley
I hope it does.
Interviewer 2
Eventually you'll probably get to a place where you're like, you know, it's, it's like I still have it in me, but it might not be like it will. There might balance.
Sean O'Malley
I know when my Speed. Because my speed is really what I, Yeah, my, my number one attribute in like if it, if my speed kind of starts coming down, like, that's when I need to exit the game. But we have such a cool gym. Tim, Tim owns the gym. It's 20 minutes from our house. We have a bunch of up and coming fighters. Like, I still feel like in Arizona. Arizona. Yeah. So I still feel like I have a lot to give back to the MMA community in that sense and help build up these young fighters.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And I'll be around the sport, but I'm also obsessed with pickleball right now. I'm like, bro, you're good.
Interviewer 3
Are you good?
Sean O'Malley
I'm decent for not playing very long. I'm building a pickleball court at my house now. I got this guy coming out Monday to lay the pad.
Interviewer 3
It's so cool that we could play. I think us together could beat you and your friend there.
Interviewer 1
Why do you think that? I think that's ridiculous. I think there's a reasonable chance.
Interviewer 3
I think there's a very good chance both of us together would be you and your better.
Interviewer 1
Why do you think you're better than pickleball?
Interviewer 3
Yeah, why do you think?
Interviewer 2
You guys. I can answer that. He's, he's, he's so athletic.
Interviewer 3
He's so.
Interviewer 2
He's got such good high. You guys are not.
Sean O'Malley
You guys are decent at pickle ball.
Interviewer 3
Yeah, yeah, we're de. I think.
Interviewer 1
Excuse me. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. First off, you're talking to a two year tennis captain.
Sean O'Malley
Okay, that changes.
Interviewer 1
Suburban Philadelphia.
Sean O'Malley
Okay, that changes.
Interviewer 3
My brother was a Division 1 tennis player. I grew up in a tennis family.
Interviewer 2
Brother.
Interviewer 3
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
I mean, that kind of helps. I'm.
Interviewer 3
I'm, I'm.
Sean O'Malley
My dad was a cop.
Interviewer 3
I'm 100% sure, like me and Dave, together on a team, best of three, would beat most normal people.
Interviewer 2
I love pickleball here.
Sean O'Malley
Cause I don't think it's normal.
Interviewer 2
He's not a normal person.
Sean O'Malley
I know I'm not great at pickleball.
Interviewer 3
He's. Let me put it into perspective for you.
Sean O'Malley
I am.
Interviewer 3
My friend was 150th best tennis player in the world. Okay? He was a professional tennis player. The best in the. Those are the best people in the world. He's 150 in the world. He came and he played pickleball with us and he like sucked and it's like. And then he sucked and then he became, he became good and he's like a decent player.
Interviewer 1
No, he could be as good as you want.
Interviewer 3
Oh, yeah. If you wanted to, he could be.
Sean O'Malley
What paddle do you use?
Interviewer 3
Unbelievable. I like, I like a, I like a one with a. I'm a thick boy.
Sean O'Malley
A thick paddle. Do you know like, the brand? Do you have like a specific brand?
Interviewer 3
No, no, my friend has a company, so.
Sean O'Malley
God, if you would have said a name, I would have been, oh, shit,
Interviewer 1
I don't know the brands. You're right.
Sean O'Malley
I don't, I don't really know. A little bit.
Interviewer 3
I do think, think. I do think. I do think though that, like, I think we'd have good. I think I, I think you're thinking you're a lot better than. I'm shocked.
Sean O'Malley
I just have had so many people come to. We own the pickle ball courts. We have four courts right next to our gym. It's called the Pickle Dojo. It's dope. And we've had so many people come in, be like, no, I'm good. And then we play with them. I'm like, bro, you just, you can barely hit over the net. Like, I don't know why people think
Interviewer 1
sport.
Interviewer 3
It's not yet. It is not.
Sean O'Malley
You guys, we're not that good.
Interviewer 1
That's how good you are. Good.
Interviewer 3
But we like, yes, we play sport. Like, I play. I, I, I work out four times a week and I play basketball.
Interviewer 1
Like, I might be a better overall athlete than you.
Sean O'Malley
I believe it.
Interviewer 1
Overall, like, you're a better, obviously fighter.
Interviewer 3
No, you're pretty good at basketball, aren't you?
Sean O'Malley
I can ball.
Interviewer 2
Keep.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, you still hoot.
Sean O'Malley
I can ball. I don't.
Interviewer 3
Let me. I just want to see your handle a little. Let me get the back. Where's the basketball?
Interviewer 2
Better athlete than like. No, no, that's assigned athlete.
Interviewer 3
Chuck, where's your. No, it's different. Where's your basketball, Chuck?
Interviewer 1
Are you pretty quick up in my room?
Interviewer 2
He's good at tennis. It's on my basketball.
Interviewer 1
It's not my room. I have unbelievable hand eye coordination. Like, I guarantee you, you're better at basketball than me, probably, but I can ball. But I bet you you're not a better shooter than me. Like, you know what I mean? I know that you're more athletic in every like, combine version.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, that's a three point shot. Yeah, like, I have a decent shot, but I'm more of like a playmaker. I can like. You're a facilitator. I'm a hustler. I'm a playmaker. See, I mean, it's like slam Dunk.
Interviewer 3
You know what time it is?
Interviewer 1
It really comes around every four years, and it keeps on.
Interviewer 2
I know what you're talking about.
Interviewer 3
Soccer or football.
Interviewer 1
Yep. But we're in America, and we're on Team USA and we got a lot of countries to.
Sean O'Malley
What? Ooh.
Interviewer 3
I'm not sure if that's who I would predict.
Sean O'Malley
Really?
Interviewer 3
Well, I don't know.
Interviewer 2
I'm going for Spain. I got a cousin from Spain, so that's my place.
Interviewer 3
What about France?
Interviewer 2
And I love France, too.
Interviewer 3
Brazil.
Interviewer 2
And I love Brazil.
Interviewer 1
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Interviewer 3
Sorry, I was just a little excited.
Interviewer 2
I like that.
Interviewer 1
No C. D. It's so interesting that
Interviewer 2
you guys are best friends and you both have ocd. Like, that must be nice.
Interviewer 1
It's nice that I have him and we have each other, but it's a thing that is probably annoying to deal with, if we're being honest.
Interviewer 3
Sometimes we call each other out on it.
Interviewer 1
Like, when we're talking on FaceTime. If one of us hangs up prematurely, we have to call the other one back. And.
Interviewer 3
Yeah, so sometimes we enable each other. But I will tell you, it's cool that this exists, because I remember, like, when I was younger, like, going to my friends or my family about it, and they. They think it's, like, a joke or something. They don't really understand the nuances. Like, and NOCD is amazing, and it's 100% virtual, so you can do it anywhere you are in the world. There's no excuse.
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Sean O'Malley
Yeah, I know you.
Interviewer 3
Yeah, we know you can do that.
Sean O'Malley
No, you can't.
Interviewer 1
Yes, I can.
Interviewer 3
Yeah, he actually can.
Interviewer 1
Yes, I can. Cocksucker. Maybe not right now.
Sean O'Malley
What was that a men's ball, though?
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Interviewer 3
No, no, he'd. Yeah, he can do it.
Interviewer 1
How's that? Why? Okay.
Sean O'Malley
Here you go.
Interviewer 1
Cocksucker.
Sean O'Malley
I don't know if I can. I don't know. Down's harder.
Interviewer 1
Sun's a little moist today. You have huge hands.
Sean O'Malley
Hands.
Interviewer 3
Okay, let me just see him dribble.
Interviewer 1
I mean, this is good enough.
Interviewer 3
That's pretty good. I just want to watch him dribble.
Interviewer 1
This is Good enough.
Sean O'Malley
Outside.
Interviewer 3
Give me the ball. Check.
Interviewer 2
Do you want me to move the rug?
Interviewer 3
I gotta watch it.
Interviewer 2
Should I move the rug?
Interviewer 3
Okay. I just gotta see it.
Sean O'Malley
Okay.
Interviewer 3
Okay. Get it. Kick out of here.
Sean O'Malley
You could not get the ball from me.
Interviewer 3
No, you could not get the ball from me. I could just.
Interviewer 1
You know how I know you suck?
Interviewer 3
The way you're dribbling is crazy.
Interviewer 1
You don't suck.
Sean O'Malley
But.
Interviewer 1
But I just gotta say one thing. Yeah, I know.
Interviewer 3
You're a guy I don't want to play. You're the guy I don't want to play. Because you don't know how to play that well and you're too strong.
Interviewer 1
No, let me tell you something. Look, first thing you're doing, that I'm seeing.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah.
Interviewer 1
First you're lifting your leg up. Yeah.
Interviewer 3
I don't need to.
Interviewer 1
But you do.
Sean O'Malley
Oh, I can if I want.
Interviewer 3
But look at just the way that.
Interviewer 1
You're one of those guys.
Interviewer 3
No, it's just one of those hands when you're moving. There's just a certain, like. There's a certain thing, people. When you ball. There's just like a. It's a certain way. You just dribble it.
Sean O'Malley
So you can beat me one on one.
Interviewer 3
No, I'm not saying I could beat you. You're so strong.
Sean O'Malley
No, I wouldn't need to use strength to win.
Interviewer 3
I'd have to see you're real.
Interviewer 1
You're probably such a good defender, defender, offense.
Interviewer 3
I'd have to see your real.
Interviewer 1
No, he's. Honestly, I'll be honest with you. I bet you at this point, especially in my life, the player that I am today, you're back. You have a better impact on the game than me, for sure. All around. Defensively, the losing ball, just shooting more than just shooting. Offensively, I'm. I would contribute to a team more holistically. Offensively and probably clubhouse as well. I would probably contribute a little more. I'm a great leader. I hit all the big shots you need me to hit.
Sean O'Malley
He's like a coach.
Interviewer 3
You're a better coach. You're a better shooting guard than point guard. Yeah, much better shooting guard.
Interviewer 1
I'm a shooting guard.
Interviewer 3
You're a lazy defender. He's a very good. My favorite.
Sean O'Malley
That's how you know you're probably actually good at shooting.
Interviewer 3
My favorite is when we're on the same team and I get to be the point guard and he gets to be the shooting guard. It's one. He's one. He's the. He's your. He's your favorite shooting guard to have when you're playing a game. He's your favorite shooting guard to have because he can pass, but he can also create a shot as well.
Interviewer 1
Let me ask you a question. You know how you play games up to 11 threes are worth two. Have you ever scored all 11 points in the game? The five on five game? I've done that like four times probably.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah. I mean, I can't say that a
Interviewer 1
half and I'm not even that kind of player. But like, it's very common in those games. Up to 11, that I'll have eight, I'll have six. I'll never have like, you're that guy. Just one. I just. I'm a really great score.
Interviewer 3
I'm so annoying on defense. You just like hate. No, you just hate me. I'm there. Like I might do the thing when it's time to like check the ball and I get off my man and I'm just going at the other guy. I'm very annoying.
Sean O'Malley
Okay, are there rules?
Interviewer 2
Open the door, I'll check it out. No, nevermind.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah,
Interviewer 1
are there rules where like, I remember one time a basketball player in the NBA, Jamer Nelson, came to my overnight camp and he couldn't really even play because in his contract he wasn't like. Are there rules that prevent you from playing pickup basketball or anything like that?
Sean O'Malley
We're independent contractors technically, so we can really do whatever the fuck we want other than fight for different promotions. We could wrestle, we can do jiu jitsu. We cannot box for other promotions, but we could ball, we can skydive. There's nothing saying we can't.
Interviewer 1
Is there a fighters union?
Sean O'Malley
No.
Interviewer 1
But do you feel like there desperately needs to be?
Sean O'Malley
I don't even really know what that means.
Interviewer 1
That means that I think and I don't even know either. But like you're saying we're independent contractors. You have guns for hire right now. But all these other parts, professional sports have unions that really protect because it's making so much money not to put Dana on the spot. I hear things being talked about a little bit here and there and how it's all about. It's really behind people about. Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
So I'm lucky I'm in the 1% of people that are actually making money, so. And I feel like I earned it. I got to where I'm at. I fought for the 12 and 12, the 20 and 20. I fought for those to get to where I'm at. But it's like, it's hard. I get UFC's perspective sometimes, too. It's like. Like, these guys that are. Their first fight in the ufc, they have, like, no one knows who they are. Yeah, there's no one that's tuning into the fight to watch them fight specifically. And they want to make $150,000 to fight, but it's like, so I get business side of usc, but I also get the fighter side because I've been through it, and it's a brutal sport.
Interviewer 2
Did Dana White, he invent ufc?
Sean O'Malley
He bought the UFC when it was going down.
Interviewer 2
Why was it going down?
Sean O'Malley
Because it was just so frowned upon. It was illegal in most states. Most people were like, you're gonna watch two guys fight in a cage? Like, it wasn't, like, this popular thing.
Interviewer 2
And how'd he change it?
Interviewer 3
He threw a lot.
Sean O'Malley
Threw a lot of money at it, and then built this reality TV show around it called the Ultimate Fighter.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Interviewer 2
How much the game didn't change. Right. Like, it's still just. People change their perception of the game 100%.
Interviewer 1
Dana White, I think, is one of the biggest, biggest marketing geniuses of all time.
Sean O'Malley
Yes.
Interviewer 1
I have no idea what the answer to this is. Was Joe Rogan a part of any of the marketing genius of the upstart of ufc?
Sean O'Malley
He was a. So Joe first started commentator, Joe Rogan? Well, when he first started getting. First started working for the UFC, he did it for free. Early 2000s, late 1999, whatever it was. And he was, like, interviewing fighters backstage, and he did it for free because he was love for the sport. And then he started commentating, and I don't think he. I think people really enjoyed his commentary on it because he was kind of explaining what was happening. And so I think he had an impact in that sense. I don't know about marketing. Through the podcast, Joe Rogan, he did, like, kickboxing.
Interviewer 3
He was hard with him.
Sean O'Malley
No, he's old. He's, like, 60. Yeah.
Interviewer 3
Just for fun.
Sean O'Malley
He did taekwondo when he was younger, and then he. I think he has a black belt in jiu jitsu, but, like, just as,
Interviewer 3
like, like, does he, like, love you?
Sean O'Malley
I've done his podcast three times. I think he. I mean, I.
Interviewer 3
Of course he loves.
Interviewer 2
Does he love you, though?
Sean O'Malley
I don't. I. You know what's funny about that is I had a. Kind of made this thing after my fights is, I fucking love you, Joe Rogan. Like, there's like, six fights in a row where I did that. Oh, really? Because when I broke my foot in my second fight, I was Laying on the ground after the fight. And he came over to me and interviewed me while I was laying on the ground, my foot broken, and I was like, I fucking love you, Joe Rogan. And I kind of started this thing. So it's funny. Ask if I. If he loves me. I don't know. I love him. I love him. I think he did say, I love you too, man, one time.
Interviewer 1
You're worried that you might have said it too much, so he might be.
Sean O'Malley
He's like, all right, he's gay.
Interviewer 3
Okay. Which is fine.
Interviewer 2
When you're training for a fight, do you like. Like, you know, so who's the guy? Who's the guy you're about to fight? What's his name again? What's the guy's name?
Sean O'Malley
Ayman Zahabi. He's from Canada.
Interviewer 2
I can't say that. Right.
Interviewer 3
You're gonna beat the shit out of him.
Interviewer 2
Are you thinking. You're thinking about his face, like, how many. You're thinking about his face every day, right? Like, you're picturing him when you're training. You're, like, picturing him. Like, you really.
Sean O'Malley
In a sense, there's. There's. There's a little bit. Not. Not fully.
Interviewer 1
You're not waking up thinking about this guy, like, just subtly in the back of your mind, that man that's also on the other side of the world training for the same event where he's supposed to meet up with you and beat the. Out of you.
Sean O'Malley
To an extent.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Interviewer 3
Like, there's.
Sean O'Malley
There you find motivation. You find some inspiration from thinking of, like, okay, this motherfucker's training. But it's like, just focusing on yourself and doing what you need to do. Each session is. I get more out of that than thinking about what he's doing or thinking about him at all. But I've been pretty. And I don't know if it's. I've had a lot of. A lot of fights, but there's even still people that, at the highest level, freak themselves out. They don't even want to know about their fight for six weeks.
Interviewer 2
Really.
Sean O'Malley
They want to know the fight. They want to notice fight.
Interviewer 3
Do you think you need, like. Do you need social media so you can, like, antagonize the guys? Like, don't they antagonize?
Sean O'Malley
There's so much people, you know who's actually done really good at that is Jake Paul in the boxing stuff. He's like. He's been very good at, like, making fun of people, in a sense, like, building these fights. Hyping these fights up, but you're not
Interviewer 3
that type of guy.
Sean O'Malley
I. I did a little bit and earlier on in my career, but lately it's like. It's so weird. I've been off social media for a year and a half almost now, and it's like, I don't think about I. And I don't. And I hate. I actually don't like this about myself. I used to think about creating content more, and I really do enjoy creating content. We still create it, but I'm not thinking about it nearly as much because I'm never on it. I don't see anything.
Interviewer 2
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
But I. And I feel like I used to. Looking back at my old social media when I was coming up, I was motivated by money and, like, fame when I didn't have it and I was able to create this content that I feel like built my brand. And now that I'm not on social, I feel like I'm not creating that same content. I kind of feel guilty in a sense, but I'm also, like, not being off social is such a different level of peace of mind.
Interviewer 1
Yes.
Sean O'Malley
I don't have the anxiety you get just like surfing. It's like you never feel good when you're on your phone. You don't feel good. Comparison is the secret joy, for sure. Such a true fucking quote. It gets said all the time, but it's such a good one that it's like, I don't feel dumb repeating, like, it's so. Yeah, it really is.
Interviewer 1
You know what?
Interviewer 3
I have.
Interviewer 1
I'm gonna go get this thing that I have this feeling that I agree with all of you.
Sean O'Malley
Let's go.
Interviewer 1
I have. It's my.
Interviewer 2
Oh, your whistle.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, I have an appreciation whistle that.
Interviewer 2
But you still spend a lot of time on something.
Interviewer 1
I know, but I keep forgetting to wear the whistle.
Interviewer 3
If I wear the whistle, if I put on padding and I put on, like, three layers of padding, they have headgear, chin guards. No. If I put on padding right now and you punched me at, like, 20%, would it destroy me?
Sean O'Malley
No. Again, I've never been someone who thinks it hits hard. I hit fast. Like, I hit hard.
Interviewer 3
I think our definition of hard is like, just that little thing you did to the back of my head. I'm still thinking about it.
Interviewer 2
You can still feel it.
Sean O'Malley
I did hit hard, but I hit. I'm more of like a speed guy.
Interviewer 3
Check. He doesn't hit real hard.
Sean O'Malley
I don't hit that hard. It's more of a speedy.
Interviewer 2
Do you Think, though, you would hurt Benny, like, if he had padding on. If.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah, it depends how thick the padding.
Interviewer 3
Three of those normal paddings.
Sean O'Malley
What normal padding?
Interviewer 3
Oh, let me just show you. I got it.
Sean O'Malley
Okay.
Interviewer 3
I got it.
Interviewer 1
My appreciation whistle.
Interviewer 3
Hold on, hold on. Give me another one.
Sean O'Malley
So three.
Interviewer 1
I'm at you.
Sean O'Malley
Harder.
Interviewer 3
No, no, no, no, no.
Interviewer 1
Hi, guys. Dave here. And I'm here to talk about David.
Interviewer 3
Is this your own company?
Interviewer 1
It's not my company. I've actually never had a protein bar in my life. This would be my first.
Interviewer 3
You're in luck.
Interviewer 1
I've never tried it.
Sean O'Malley
I have to say it's really good.
Interviewer 2
And then I look at the back and I think, oh, my God. Only 150 calories.
Interviewer 3
I love this thing. I fully love it. This tastes just like cookie dough.
Interviewer 1
And protein is valuable.
Interviewer 3
Protein is the most valuable.
Interviewer 1
Muscle.
Interviewer 3
Muscle.
Interviewer 2
It's really good. And you know what?
Interviewer 3
What?
Interviewer 2
David is available at Walmart stores Nationwide and on Walmart.com youm can try a single bar from only 2, 7, 9, 7.
Interviewer 1
297.
Interviewer 2
297.
Interviewer 3
Wow. Go grab on your shop. Good man.
Interviewer 1
Wow. UFC history is going to go down this Sunday at that White House. You know, they're going to have men, they're going to have an octagon.
Sean O'Malley
You're going to have Sean o' Malley,
Interviewer 1
who's here today, but, you know, pretty soon he's going to be stepping into the octagon to take on Amon Zahabi in the bantamweight matchup that you absolutely cannot miss.
Interviewer 2
Now that I've met Sean, I'm nervous.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, it's tough. You know, we want him to. I think we want him to win.
Interviewer 2
I don't want anybody to get hurt, and I don't want anybody to get punched.
Interviewer 1
Actually, we're neutral.
Interviewer 2
I don't want anybody to kick, and I just want everybody to shake hands.
Interviewer 1
You don't even want to see combat?
Interviewer 2
I don't want to see combat. I want to have a nice little talk.
Interviewer 1
I got news for you. There's going to be combat. UFC at the White House this Sunday only on ParamountPlus.com youm gotta go 5%.
Interviewer 3
Oh, no.
Sean O'Malley
Cause then 5's like this. I gotta do it enough to. Where you feel it.
Interviewer 2
Wait till I clear. Just in case ribs fly.
Interviewer 3
Let me see. At 10% is.
Sean O'Malley
I don't. This is so much padding. I don't know if you're going to feel.
Interviewer 3
I feel everything you're doing.
Sean O'Malley
Should I do left hand? Or right at,
Interviewer 3
please.
Sean O'Malley
Should I give you a countdown or just.
Interviewer 3
I just want to see what these feel like. Like get a little bit harder. Harder.
Sean O'Malley
You might not even feel that bad.
Interviewer 1
Okay.
Interviewer 3
Oh,
Sean O'Malley
a decent.
Interviewer 3
Oh my God.
Interviewer 1
Nice.
Interviewer 2
Did you feel this?
Interviewer 3
Yes, I felt it. I'm not like, whoa. Okay.
Sean O'Malley
One might have hurt one. One might have hurt.
Interviewer 2
Did it hurt you?
Interviewer 1
I think he was just stunned by what was happening.
Interviewer 3
I don't feel amazing, but like, that was cool.
Interviewer 2
I was not expecting that.
Sean O'Malley
One would have been.
Interviewer 3
No, no, no, no one. Are you kidding me?
Sean O'Malley
70. That was a decent little shot.
Interviewer 1
Nice shot. Nice shot, Sean.
Interviewer 3
That was so. Did you see me fly back?
Interviewer 2
I guess I didn't realize that you were gonna like move.
Interviewer 3
Yeah. What do you mean? I was like, this guy's like one of the best fighters in the world.
Sean O'Malley
You should let me kick you.
Interviewer 3
No, no, no, no, no. You can kick Kristen.
Sean O'Malley
No, I won't kick. I won't kick.
Interviewer 3
Chuck, do you wanna get kicked?
Interviewer 2
I'm dripping.
Sean O'Malley
No, actually I can't kick.
Interviewer 3
My bad. It's so hot in here.
Interviewer 2
No, you just got.
Interviewer 3
Okay. Did it look cool? Does it, did it look cool?
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Interviewer 2
I mean, you almost broke through the glass.
Interviewer 3
That was cool.
Interviewer 1
I mean, they have it all on the real cameras, you know, but I
Sean O'Malley
have it here and I kind of didn't really tell you when it was coming, which was kind of nice.
Interviewer 1
Yeah.
Sean O'Malley
And I don't really get too much hip into it. Okay.
Interviewer 2
I can't believe you're in pain always.
Interviewer 3
Yeah, I guess I'm in pain and I just.
Interviewer 2
You're not beaten.
Interviewer 3
Yeah, but when you work out all the time you're just in pain just from the workout. Even from being sore. Yeah.
Interviewer 2
I do pilates and walk and I don't that pain.
Sean O'Malley
Yeah. Girls typically, I feel like are just
Interviewer 3
my hips. I always have to open so much.
Interviewer 2
It's cracking for me. Like my knees crack when I stand. It's just kind of.
Sean O'Malley
I don't think that's bad though. Well, should we.
Interviewer 2
Should we do friends on three?
Interviewer 3
I'm just punching him in the face real quick.
Sean O'Malley
I'm not a violent person by any means either. I don't like fight, I don't like violent.
Interviewer 1
I just want to just give you one small shot.
Interviewer 2
Don't do it hard, Dave.
Interviewer 1
I won't. Last time I threw a punch was like 10 years ago. I punched my friend's butt and I fractured my wrist.
Interviewer 3
Okay. You have a good butt.
Interviewer 2
You should break your hand.
Sean O'Malley
No.
Interviewer 3
Uh huh.
Interviewer 1
We really appreciate you. We really appreciate you coming today.
Sean O'Malley
I appreciate it.
Interviewer 1
On three. One, two, three.
Interviewer 3
Was that a good one?
Sean O'Malley
You know what? One time, Bradley Martin. You know Bradley Martin. Big fucking giant Jack guy. He. We were at the club one, I was kind of turning up. Let me give you body shot. And I flexing. He hit me as hard as he could. And I was like, oh, nice shot. And I walked away. I was like, bro, he w. He's a big. He's 265.
Interviewer 3
His was not good, right?
Sean O'Malley
No, it was bad.
Interviewer 2
But you can't be. He's got a big fight coming up.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, I know. I want to be easy. Thank you so much for coming.
Sean O'Malley
Thank you.
Interviewer 1
I'm rooting for you every fight.
Interviewer 3
I want to come play pickleball anytime.
Interviewer 1
Yeah, I want to play pickleball.
Interviewer 3
Show me his pickleball court. He has like four of them.
Interviewer 1
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Podcast: Friends Keep Secrets
Hosts: Benny Blanco, Lil Dicky (Dave Burd), Kristin Batalucco
Guest: Sean O’Malley
Date: June 9, 2026
This lively, intimate episode of Friends Keep Secrets brings UFC star Sean O’Malley into the cozy, chaotic mix at Dave and Kristin’s LA home. The conversation ranges from the physical and emotional challenges of being a fighter to the psychology of branding, social media, family life, and, of course, a playful hands-on display of fighting technique. In typical Friends Keep Secrets style, it’s loose, hilarious, honest, and peppered with memorable moments—plus some friendly pickleball and basketball trash talk.
"To be a fighter, you gotta be a little crazy." — Sean O’Malley [00:54]
“I was the man in Montana. ... Came to Arizona, got my ass kicked every single practice.” — Sean O’Malley [06:13]
“I need my chi. I need my energy.” — Sean O’Malley [08:01]
“I remember breaking up with a girl when I was in seventh grade because she didn’t want kids.” — Sean O’Malley [11:27]
“[The weight cut] feels like death.” — Sean O’Malley [14:26]
“Dread that part of it more than even the fight?”
“Yes. Worst part of the whole thing.” — Interviewer & O’Malley [14:37–14:41]
“Losing the belt sucked ... just losing in general, it just fucking sucked.” — Sean O’Malley [19:17]
“Mike Tyson says everyone has a plan to get punched in the face. ... That’s kind of true.” — Sean O’Malley [22:59]
“I’m 100% sure, like me and Dave, together on a team, best of three, would beat most normal people.” — Interviewer [48:15]
“Comparison is the secret joy, for sure. ... It gets said all the time but it's such a good one ...” — Sean O’Malley [60:26]
On fighting and branding:
“If he wasn’t a good fighter, it wouldn’t have been happening.” — Sean O’Malley [02:15]
On cutting weight:
“When I’m actually on weight, it feels like death.” — Sean O’Malley [14:26]
On regret and resilience:
“I didn’t have a plan B ... I just not going back to school. I want to be an athlete.” — Sean O’Malley [06:44]
On fatherhood:
“Having the right baby mama, having the right partner to raise kids is ... I’m so thankful.” — Sean O’Malley [11:31]
On being off social:
“Being off [social media] … it's a different level of peace of mind.” — Sean O’Malley [60:26]
On post-fight emotions:
“Lost showers ... they suck. But after win showers … I talk to myself. I’m like, we did it looking in the mirror.” — Sean O’Malley [33:59]
This episode is a fast-moving, loose, and insightful peek behind the UFC curtain—offering plenty for both fight fans and casual listeners. Sean O’Malley’s honesty and vulnerability about hardship, mental health, discipline, and the fighter’s psychology set the tone, while the hosts mix laughter, physical demonstrations, big-life questions, and a little sports banter. The episode winds through parenting, pain, ambition, and what it means to chase (and occasionally lose) glory, ending—as always—with the spirit of friendship and fascination.