Crazy CANON & SONY Rumors, Newborn Photos & More! RAWtalk 190

Summary

FroKnowsPhoto RAWtalk 190: “Crazy CANON & SONY Rumors, Newborn Photos & More!”
Release Date: March 20, 2026
Host: Jared Polin (A), Co-Host: Stephen Eckert (B)

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Overview

Episode 190 of RAWtalk dives into fresh camera rumors—most notably huge speculation around upcoming Canon and Sony APS-C bodies (Canon R7 Mark II and Sony a6900), Canon’s potentially game-changing 20-70mm f/2.8 zoom, hands-on experiences with newborn and holiday family photography, and reflections on current & upcoming video content, including the launch of the “Born to Bowl” documentary series and fresh behind-the-scenes vlogs.

The tone is classic RAWtalk: irreverent, tangent-prone, and rooted in hands-on experience—balancing deep gear analysis for photo nerds with banter, show reviews, and real-world photography challenges.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Baby & Holiday Family Photo Experiences

[02:00-09:15]

• Stephen’s Baby and Easter Photos:
  Stephen shares both candid holiday “assembly line” Easter Bunny photos and professional newborn session images.
  • Easter Photo Critique: Jared critiques the poorly composed, unedited proof—calling it "a hostage photo."
    — “What this looks like to me is like a hostage photo.” – Jared [03:18]
  • Process & Value: Stephen explains the photographer churns out quick sessions for holidays—“next, next, next”—with minimal setup or post-processing, likening it to fast mall Santa photos, explaining why it’s only $50.
  • Newborn Session Insights:
    • Professional newborn photos were shot over a two-hour session ($500, including sibling shots) with careful posing and lighting. The photographer shot on a decade-old Nikon D750 and 50mm f/1.4, proving great results come from skills over specs.
    • Quote: “You still don’t need the most expensive, latest, greatest gear… They still come out great.” – Stephen [09:00]
  • Takeaway: Don’t share unedited proofs; fix issues before sending images to clients.

2. Born to Bowl Documentary Launch

[11:04–18:59]

• RAWtalk celebrates the HBO debut of “Born to Bowl,” a docu-reality series by Jared and team. The bowling show’s reception has been overwhelmingly positive.
  • Most Fascinating Factor: Both the hosts’ families and wider audiences are most intrigued by the science—the oil on bowling lanes and lane machines. — “People loved the oil. Understanding bowling… the science is cool.” – Jared [14:44]
  • Behind the Scenes:
    • Unofficial “Born to Bowl” podcast launched, featuring interviews with bowlers immediately after their episodes air.
    • Audience feedback wants all episodes at once, versus week-to-week.
    • Initial Reddit and friend response has been highly positive, with the only “negative” being playful debate over bowling styles.

3. YouTube & Editorial Content Updates

[19:00–25:38]

• Paris Vlog (Austin’s Debut):
  New 44-minute Paris vlog shot and edited by new hire Austin, praised for its hands-off creative approach and strong visuals despite being his first major project.
  — “He did a really good, really good job. I find it entertaining…” – Jared [19:00]
• Leica Hater Video:
  Review of two Leica cameras from the perspective of a Leica skeptic, based on Paris trip footage.
• Canon 7-14mm Fisheye Review:
  Discussion of application (“quirky, weird lens—you use it 2% of the shoot, then put it away” [22:47]), with nostalgia for fisheye looks.

4. Content Team Expansion

[25:09–26:05]

• Hiring Austin as shooter/editor allows more concurrent content; keeps Jared shooting while Stephen/Dan edit. — “The biggest thing… is keeping you [Jared] busy…” – Stephen [25:38]

5. Canon & Sigma Lens News

[26:05–27:29]

• Incoming reviews for Tamron 35-150mm, Sigma 35mm f/1.4 v2 and 15mm f/1.4 crop lens; conversation about the proliferation of ultra-wides for APS-C.

6. Rumors: Canon “20-70mm f/2.8 VCM” Zoom

[27:29–31:15]

• Canon working on a 20-70mm f/2.8 L VCM, possibly the first zoom of its kind, wider than 24-70mm but dependent on heavy digital lens correction, similar to Sony’s 20-70mm f/4 G.
  • Pros: Expanded range; compact size; possibly stabilized and lighter.
  • Cons: Concerns about reliance on software correction and its subtle distortions.
  • Jared: “If you know, you know… sometimes you like it, sometimes you’re like, ‘that ruined my photo.’” [28:05]
  • Stephen: This would fill out Canon’s zooms (with 10-20mm and 20-70mm), possibly enabling a future 24-70mm f/2 lens.
  • Price Speculation: That hypothetical f/2 version could be $3,500+.

7. Plug & Ad Break Commentary

[31:15–33:37]

• RAWtalk remains largely ad-free by choice, except for organic plugs; the hosts (and audience) overwhelmingly skip non-native advertisements. — Jared: “If you just do the interruption plug… I just skip it.” [32:18]

8. Parenting/Nostalgia/Banter

[33:37–35:54]

• Strong opinions on “pussification” of kids today, gentle parenting, and the need for discipline.
  — “I couldn't imagine being a teacher… is practice gonna be hard today? …Stop being a little bitch.” – Jared [34:16]
• Touches on discipline styles, bartering with kids, and anecdotes about growing up.

9. Big Camera Rumors: Canon R7 Mark II

[35:59–41:41]

• Major leak: Canon R7 Mark II is rumored to feature a 39MP BSI stacked APS-C sensor—potentially making it a “budget birder’s dream.”
  • Superb for Wildlife/Action: High pixel count equals 8K video and ultimate cropping potential.
  • Specs Debated: Potential 30-40fps bursts, CFexpress B card support.
  • Stephen: “Crop, stacked, high-res…apex birder camera.” [36:55]
  • Jared: Keeps emphasizing that gear isn’t everything, and there’s an argument for lower MP for better quality, but acknowledges consumer demand for “reach” and speed.

10. Sony APS-C Rumors: a6900

[42:14–48:47]

• Sony Alpha Rumors hints at an a6900:
  • Specs: 33MP wafer-stacked sensor, Bionz XR2, 30fps electronic, 15fps mechanical, CFexpress A, 8.5 stops of IBIS, improved grip/buttons—pushing against Canon’s anticipated spec leap.
  • Skepticism: Some specs sound far-fetched—especially 4K120p with no crop.
  • Market Fit: With entry-level FF bodies so cheap, why does APS-C persist?—Likely popular for vloggers, YouTubers, and those prioritizing compactness and cost. — Stephen: “Why keep APS-C going when their entry full frame is so cheap?” [46:05]
  • Note: Sony’s compact RX100 line is overdue for a refresh.

11. Rumors, Body Ergonomics, and Missing Models

[48:47–50:02]

• Naming conventions: question why Sony skips some numbers (no a6800, for instance).
• Ergonomics: Canon’s R7 (APS-C) bodies praised over Sony’s, mostly due to better viewfinder placement and general heft.

12. Wrap-Up & Community Engagement

[50:02–52:47]

• Reminder of new and upcoming video content on the channel. — Vlog strategy: “One for them, one for us”—mixing creative and gear-focused videos for broader appeal.
• Born to Bowl Unofficial Podcast is now a separate feed.
• Call for Reviews: Encourages audience to rate and review on Apple/Spotify. Reads listener comments and responds to messages sent to their text line: 313-710-9729.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Jared: "What this looks like to me is like a hostage photo.” [03:18, on the Easter Bunny pic]
• Stephen: “You still don’t need the most expensive, latest, greatest gear… She’s still shooting with a D750 if you look at the metadata and with a 50mm 1.4G from back in the day and they still come out great.” [09:00]
• Jared: “People loved the oil. Understanding bowling… the science is cool.” [14:44]
• Stephen: On 20-70mm rumors: “I really hate [extreme digital lens correction].” [27:29]
• Jared: "If you know, you know... sometimes you like it, and sometimes you're like, yeah, no, it just kind of ruined my photo…" [28:05]
• Jared: “If you do want a visual, I will be posting these on my Instagram seckert on IG and you can see what we are talking about.” [10:17]
• Jared: “Pussification of the kids today is absolutely insane.” [33:52]
• Stephen: “This is going to be a budget birder’s dream camera.” [36:55] (Canon R7 II)
• Jared: “There are so many options today… you think you need the newest, latest, and greatest, and you really don’t.” [47:27]

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Important Timestamps

• 02:00 – Baby photo banter and candid/professional session comparison.
• 11:04 – “Born to Bowl” launch and audience reactions.
• 19:00 – Paris vlog, Leica Hater, and new video strategy with the team.
• 22:00 – Fisheye lens use cases and nostalgia.
• 27:29 – Canon 20-72mm f/2.8 VCM rumor and lens correction debate.
• 35:59 – Canon R7 Mark II rumor deep-dive.
• 42:14 – Sony a6900 rumor and compact camera market musings.
• 46:05 – APS-C vs. affordable full frame discussion.
• 50:02 – Recap, content plan, and community requests.

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Listen/Interact

• Text the show: 313-710-9729
• **Find the “Born to Bowl” podcast and RAWtalk on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, and other streaming platforms.
• Stephen’s baby and Easter photos: Will be posted on @seckert for reference.

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In Summary

RAWtalk 190 is a classic episode that spotlights the excitement of upcoming Canon & Sony APS-C rumors, deep dives into the realities behind family photography, and insight into balancing creative and gear-driven content. The discussion is practical, occasionally raw, and always infused with humor, making it a must-listen for photography enthusiasts who want both industry news and lived experience.

Transcript

[A]

Oh, man, do we have rumors, Stephen? I can't believe what Canon's thinking and what Sony's thinking. Wow, we have so much to talk about. Let's talk about these rumors. Oh, Stephen, we have a lot to talk about today. Oh, yeah, we do. So here's a quick recap. Or should we call it a pre cap?

[B]

Definitely not a recap because we haven't talked about it yet.

[A]

But it's a pre cap then I. I guess a pre cap of what you can expect in this Week's Raw Talk, episode 190. So here's what we're going to talk about this week. We've got Canon R7 Mark II and a 6900 rumors. We've got Canon Rumors has a ton of lenses that they've been teasing. The latest is a future 2472.8 replacement. And you'll hear what that is when we get to that. That right there, Steven, that's like. That's like a thread. That's a thread right there with like not giving you what lens it's gonna. What it's the replacement's gonna be. But we'll get there. Steven had some baby photos taken. Not of himself. He's not dressed up like a baby. It' his actual baby babies. And then some videos that are new and up on the channel. There's a Paris vlog that will be going live on the weekend. We've got the Laika Hater video that is out. You know, a review by a. Like a hater of laikas. I thought that was a pretty good title. It was also the 7 to 14 fisheye is out and about on the youtubes if you're interested to see. And we've got a lot more to talk about, but we also have Born to Bowl is officially out on HBO and the reviews are interesting, but we don't want to start with that dead horse because we've beaten that dead horse and I'll keep beating that dead horse regardless.

[B]

Anyway, I was going to say the Promotion King will beat that dead horse for sure.

[A]

Even Promotion king.

[B]

You are a salesman, I'll tell you that.

[A]

I am a salesperson, yes. But anyway, let's start with your baby photos. Let's talk. Walk us through these baby photos. Or do you want me to, like, look at them and be surprised?

[B]

Yeah. So I just sent you them a few minutes ago and I'm curious what your initial reaction.

[A]

Oh, you. Well, the first one I clicked on was the screen screenshot at the bottom.

[B]

That's the Easter photo Well, this looks like.

[A]

This looks like. Well, one. I don't know who took it, because

[B]

same person took both the newborn photos and the Easter photos.

[A]

Yeah, but it looks like. Okay, I have to be careful with what I say here.

[B]

I just want to preface this. That is a proof that you're looking at that is literally straight out of the camera. JPEG proof.

[A]

Okay. But don't compose or anything in camera or anything, because there's at the top. So let me describe it. Let me describe it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay, let me describe it. If you were looking. Okay, so we've got the Easter Bunny sitting there. One eye is bigger than the other. Its mouth is open, its buck teeth are there, its tongue is there, and it's holding a crying baby. And then one baby is smiling and laughing with her hand on the Easter Bunny's knee. And she looks like she's holding a little baby chippy. That's a baby chippy.

[B]

That's her little stuffy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, your dog Chip. Okay, but then it's like, on the ground, it looks like fake cobblestone with grass growing. And then it has a stupid backdrop that's pinned to the wall, but you can see the ceiling and the wall

[B]

behind it, which will be cropped out. Keep in mind.

[A]

Oh, I get it, I get it. But what this looks like to me is like a hostage photo. It also reminds me of. What's that kid's name that I. That we. I interviewed him. He takes a lot of alternative photos.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

And he has that one photo of him sitting on a sofa in a bear helmet, but naked.

[B]

What do they call those type of people that are into that?

[A]

Furries.

[B]

Furries, yes.

[A]

It's not a furry. He was just literally wearing a bunny. Not a bunny. A bear helmet thing. And naked on an old sofa. I don't know why this reminds me of that.

[B]

Okay, well, thank you for giving me that visual now in my head.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sorry. But that's what it is. Anyway, talk about this photo, Stephen.

[B]

This is why I don't give you edits that aren't complete. And because you'll be like, well, this is wrong. This is wrong. Like, it's not done yet.

[A]

I know, but that's why photographers. Guys, this is a message for photographers. Do not share proofs. Share. Like, you can crop it. You can edit it. I think it's better to just edit the damn photos and make it look final and not put something shitty that you wouldn't be happy getting out into the world.

[B]

So let me explain this Is literally an assembly line of people that it's like, next, next, next. Taking probably 10, 15 pictures as quick as possible. Next family comes in. She does these Easter sessions, Christmas sessions, whatever. Every single holiday.

[A]

Every holiday, Stephen.

[B]

Big holidays.

[A]

9 11. Does she have a 911 backdrop?

[B]

I think that's one that we celebrate. But okay.

[A]

Said everything. Stephen.

[B]

Do people get Pictures taken for 9 11? Come on.

[A]

Maybe somewhere in Saudi Arabia.

[B]

Jesus.

[A]

That reminds me of my favorite line from that. That movie with the guy from Silicon Valley, the Indian one. He's not Indian, he's Pakistani. Not Pakistani, he's Saudi. Whatever he is. He's sitting at the table. Is it lovesick? What is it called? Dopesick. What is that?

[B]

Love sick. It's Kumar. What the hell's his name?

[A]

Oh, Kumar.

[B]

I'm not even gonna try Kumar.

[A]

Anyway, he's sitting there and he's with the. The parents that are white because he's dating a girl. And he goes, the father goes, so 9 11. What do you think about 9 11?

[B]

And he goes, so 911 thoughts? Or something like that.

[A]

911 thoughts. And then Kamar, whatever his name is, goes, we lost some of our best men that day.

[B]

We lost like 19 of our best men. Yeah, whatever he says.

[A]

That's a funny joke. That is just a funny joke. Okay, Steven. So she doesn't line people up for 9 11. So you got to be careful when you say every holiday.

[B]

So we got these pictures taken. It's essentially an assembly line. She books, I'd say probably close to two weekends full of clients. And I'm talking from like 9am to like 4 or 5pm Every three minutes there's a new family coming in. So you have to keep in mind this is literally like, next, next, next. There's crying babies, there's screaming kids. Everything you can think of, the worst case scenario. And meanwhile, she's trying to like, you know, have Hannah and Molly, like look at camera. Hello. Holding up like stuffed animals, all holding up a lollipop. We did for Hannah because that was her treat for after. So it's stuff like that. Like she's holding one handed, trying to get her to look. You can't perfectly compose the image. I totally understand it after going through it and witnessing it myself.

[A]

Why do you need an Easter Bunny picture? I don't understand it. Is this a non Jew thing? Like, I wouldn't understand it because I'm Jewish.

[B]

We just wanted a picture with the Easter Bunny. It's just like a picture with Santa Claus.

[A]

But Molly looks like she's very upset.

[B]

Yes. So Hannah cried every single time for the past two and a half years of her life that we went and did one of these holiday pictures. And this is the first time where she's actually smiling and wasn't scared. Was actually excited to meet the Easter Bunny. So it's finally rewarding going to these sessions. Same with Santa Claus. Like, I think she's starting to understand, like, oh, it's Santa. I'm excited to meet him.

[A]

I got a question.

[B]

I'm sure you have many.

[A]

Who is playing the Easter Bunny right now?

[B]

I don't know if that's her husband or a friend.

[A]

No, it's somebody they rented off. Imagine putting out a Craigslist. It's like Easter Bunny wanted little things sitting on your lap.

[B]

No, I'm pretty sure it's someone she knows. And she bought this costume.

[A]

Do you really need someone in the Easter Bunny costume? Why couldn't you just get like Easter Bunny. That's not a person. So it.

[B]

Let's move on to the actual good photos.

[A]

Let's move on to the photos.

[B]

These are literally snapshots. It's what I expected. Keep in mind, these are 50 bucks. It's just like going to the mall and getting a picture with Santa. And it's acceptable. I don't care.

[A]

I'm looking at a baby Molly sleeping here all sleepy cutie in a basket with her hands on her. Oh, and then there's your other daughter with her. That was like an add on because she cut her feet off.

[B]

I was waiting for that. Which I will say it was an insane session because Hannah had about five minutes in her where she was smiling and happy. And then she just went on a super crazy temper tantrum for the next hour. Unfortunately, my in laws brought her early, so we only had about an hour session with Molly. And then Hannah was supposed to come like two hours later because I knew it would be pure chaos. Especially because we were focusing on Molly and they came early and the session was cut short because as expected, Hannah starts flipping out and we're trying to bribe her with food and snacks and just something to stay calm. But we did get, as you can see, two or three pictures of her and her sister together, smiling.

[A]

Super cute, right?

[B]

Yeah. I just wanted to show you, like, these are the same photographer, but this is what happens when you actually have two to three hours of a session versus a quick two minute session with a shitty backdrop on an Easter Bunny. You know, this is what she's known for and she does a great job. She Did Hannah's pictures as well. Super happy with her work. She's incredible at posing a baby. I've seen it twice now and it's so like it takes her almost 15, 20 minutes just to get the baby in the right pose to take the photo. And then, you know, Molly will maybe be still for a good 30 seconds to get that photo. So I get it. Like newborn photographers. It is tough.

[A]

How much did you pay?

[B]

I paid 500. Was it 600 or I think 500. And that included pictures with her sister. It was 400. If I just wanted the newborn session and honestly I would have paid more.

[A]

What kind of files do you get?

[B]

The exact files that you're seeing, the full resolution, final JPEG exports.

[A]

Basically the over sharpened ones or I

[B]

don't think these are over sharpened.

[A]

Just like around the edge, the hairs look over sharpened.

[B]

I think the skin is extremely softened. Yeah. And that might look like it's over sharpened around the edges because the skin is so soft. But the other thing is, you know, it goes to show that you still don't need the most expensive, latest, greatest gear. She's still shooting with a D750 if you look at the metadata and with a 51.4g lens from back in the day and they still come out great. She has the right lighting though. That is the key.

[A]

Throw them out, Steven, throw them out.

[B]

I am surprised she has an upgrade to mirrorless at this point. But she's shooting just standard flash portraits in her studio. Really don't need it.

[A]

They look good. They look good. So let's move on from there.

[B]

If you do want a visual, I will be posting these on my Instagram seckert on IG and you can see what we are talking about.

[A]

Well, will the Easter bunny photo be posted?

[B]

That one will be reserved for Easter.

[A]

I don't even know what Easter is. When is easter?

[B]

It is the 5th of April. Did you say what is Easter?

[A]

It's something about bunnies bouncing around and like found like a bunny rabbit found Jesus in a hole and he came back to. He's like, come back to life, Jesus. Oh, hey Jesus, is that you? Oh, hey Jesus.

[B]

It's about celebrating him resurrecting three days later.

[A]

Okay, cool. Good story.

[B]

I was waiting for you to say great fairy tale. What?

[A]

It wasn't me, it was Todd. Hold on, is that a phone call? We don't believe in fairy tales.

[B]

Oh man.

[A]

Still one of the best lines ever from Todd. And then the people that were super religious sent us a bible with notes and everything in it. Oh, yeah. I don't know where that is. Oh. Oh, it went in the trash. Sorry. Born to bowl is officially out. The first episode is up on the HBO and hbo. Max. Hey, have you looked today to see if it's risen beyond 8? Because I was told that it got as high as 8 in popularity. Hopefully it's still on the list today.

[B]

That is the top 10 list on HBO. That's what Jared is.

[A]

Top 10 series list. Now, mind you, there's Rooster and DTF St. Louis. There's a bunch of new shows that are out, and ours is on there. But maybe it's number one in sports documentaries, which they don't have a list for. So if you don't have HBO, you can. You can get HBO, you know, a trial or you could. There's five episodes coming. There's four more episodes. Four more weeks. So another month. Mondays, 9:00pm in U.S. and Canada. And there will hopefully be other countries announced at a later date because that's just US And Canada right now. Yeah, I don't have any control over any of that stuff. But also there's an unofficial Born to Bowl podcast that is available on this channel as well. I actually sat down with Kyle Troop, who is one of the main characters in the first episode. Sat down, had an awesome interview. I would call it more of two friends having a discussion about bowling than call it an interview. My dad liked it.

[B]

I always love. That's your gauge. If your dad liked it, then it's really good.

[A]

Well, no, I. I knew it was good because I called you right after and said that was a really good.

[B]

I know, but that's like, your approval that it is good.

[A]

No, I don't need the approval. I'm not seeking the approval.

[B]

When you want to say it's really good, you say my dad. Does he not. Does he usually criticize everything? I assume.

[A]

I mean, he's been known to criticize things. Yes.

[B]

He's your father.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I do want to send out a thank you to one special listener, though. Oh, Stu's wife. Oh, Stu Williams. His wife listens to the podcast.

[B]

Wife.

[A]

I want to thank her for listening while Brady's in the back of the car throwing things out the window or trying to break out and run away. But thank you for listening. Stu's wife.

[B]

I bet you she understands baby photos and how hard they are.

[A]

Yeah, probably better than most. So, anyway, you can listen to that on Lipson. I will try to do interviews with other characters in the show as well, but we have to kind of let them watch the show first because they haven't seen it, and then I'll be able to. To interview them.

[B]

And when Jared says listen to it on Libsyn, that is the podcast host we use that goes out to every single streaming service. Spotify, Apple, podcasts, iHeart, all that stuff. So you can stream it anywhere. You would find Raw Talk also on the YouTube channel now. You can now go on the podcast tab and you will see a separate podcast for Born to Bowl if you want to just listen to Born to Bowl or obviously Raw Talk if you choose to listen to it on YouTube, which I still question how many people do that. But we did stop putting it on there for a minute and people said, where is it? So I guess people do.

[A]

Yeah. You watched it.

[B]

I was there for the premiere, obviously.

[A]

No, I know. But you watched it with your wife and stuff.

[B]

I did.

[A]

I had about 15 people over, almost 20 people over to the house to watch.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

So what did your wife think of the episode, Steven?

[B]

She loved it. I mean, she's all about the reality TV type stuff. Obviously, she's more into the people. Not so much the bowling aspect, but what she found to be the most fascinating part. Same with me. Is more of the science behind it, like the oiling of the lanes, how not every single lane is the exact same and how the oil differs from lane to lane.

[A]

Yeah, the biggest takeaway that I've heard from people, not just my friends, but things out into the world, the feedback is they loved the oil. Understanding bowling, I mean, I fight, fight and fought so hard to include more of that stuff into the series because I, from day one, have always talked about how important the science of bowling is. And it doesn't have to be complicated. It's cool. Not only is the oil cool, but the lane machine that lays down the oil is cool. The pin setter is freaking cool. All of that stuff, the inside of pins, the inside of bowling balls. There's so much to talk about. I mean, we do hit it in the show. I want to go deeper personally.

[B]

Obviously, the first episode, you have to kind of dig deep into the. The history of bowling. And it's a little more bowling centric, but it gets more into the people part. I'd say moving forward in episode two, three, four, five, whatever.

[A]

Well, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's a. You have to start somewhere.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And you have to introduce the universe. And so the backstories in the, in the first episode. This isn't really spoilers but it goes into a little bit of the history of bowling. The rise, the fall, the new bowlers, the money compared to other. To. Compared to other sports. And it's certainly interesting.

[B]

And the goal of the unofficial Born to Bowl podcast that you're hosting now is to hopefully have the bowlers that are featured on that specific episode that next week while the show is out and live. Like, for example, this week we had Kyle Troup, who was pretty much the star of episode one for the most part. By the way, my wife also really liked the rapper slash bowler living two lives.

[A]

Well, yeah, it's Kevin. Kevin's funny.

[B]

He was funny.

[A]

Yeah, Kevin's. Kevin's a character. He's not even a main character for us to focus on, but he was. He's really good to have in the episode.

[B]

Yeah, he was funny.

[A]

So I, of course someone sent me the Reddit because you never know how people are going to react. And Reddit is usually a good indication there's news articles out there. But remember, this is going on for five weeks, the season one, as HBO says, it's season one on their channel. And so they'll seed out different promotions throughout the whole thing. But. But I pulled up the Reddit because it was like, here's what the person on Reddit wrote. HBO Max's premiere of Born to Bowl has been so freaking good so far. Great primer. If they do a season two next year, they need to make each episode one hour. So much potential with this show and super entertaining and informative to people who might not understand, bowling is so much more than just a leisure activity. Wish they would release the entire season all at once instead of week to week. For those who had watched the premiere, what are y' all thoughts?

[B]

My wife actually said the same thing. I do wish that they put it all out at once, right?

[A]

And then it's all over. I mean, but. But the fact that the biggest takeaway and I get from. From friends who would not bullshit me is one guy, Steve, you know, he's the. The window cling. He's in my bowling league and he's. Steve, He. He wasn't gonna watch it. He's like, I, I want to watch it, but I just, I like binging. He's like, but I'm gonna watch it tonight. So he texts me after they watch. He's like, this is why I freaking hate watching the show. I loved it and now I can't. Now I have to wait every week to watch it. He's like, I wanted more.

[B]

Well, what happens to me is I honestly just kind of forget that I just watched a new show or only one episode or I have like seven different episodes I'm watching or different movies. And honestly I just, I forget about it. I just have too much going on in both my life and there's only so many things I can watch. So that happens to me. That's why I kind of wish I could just binge it and one day or one weekend or whatever when I actually have time for once.

[A]

The crazy thing is there's so much work that goes into making a season and then if you did binge it was, it would be because it's like two and a half hours.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

Is the. Is the extent it's a movie. The video. Yeah. But it's good to hear that people want more. They wanted longer episodes and they want to watch them now. I could read comments, but I'll skip that. So you guys could google Born to Bowl and Reddit and you can just go ahead and read what people had to say. The only negative comment there was I don't like two handed bowlers. And someone was like, go to sleep, grandpa. So that was, that was it. It was never anyone. It was never any. Anything bad. Which is crazy to think that most of the stuff or all of the stuff that I've seen so far has been on the positive side.

[B]

Very cool, man.

[A]

So moving on, I took Austin to Paris as his like in his first couple weeks of working. We ended up going to Paris to film a bunch of stuff actually just to. Just to go see a friend. But what ended up happening is two lenses came out from canon. We were able to film there. He shot a vlog without any direction. He edited this vlog and the vlog's like 44 minutes and will be coming out I believe Saturday. You probably when you're listening to this, it either is out or coming out soon. But he did a really good, really good job. I find it entertaining and sitting there to watch. You know, Even though it's 44 minutes, you could watch it on your TV and really enjoy the show.

[B]

I had minimal notes for him, which is a big deal because I am pretty nitpicky with edits, I will say. And he really didn't have much direction minus film everything and try and make something out of nothing. And the big thing is I thought you were really good on camera. I thought you had.

[A]

So Stephen, I am a natural because

[B]

you could go either way. Now I don't know what he cut out because Obviously, he said he came back with like two or three terabytes of footage. Like, because he just shot for two, three days straight. And he didn't know what to shoot because it was really his first task.

[A]

Yeah, it's not easy to go with me.

[B]

Well, because I've always said when you see a camera, you always talk to it and it's like every five seconds, and then it just becomes a bunch of randomness.

[A]

Well, it actually worked when I go to the art museum, but I thought

[B]

you guys had a purpose. That's why going to the art museum and sticking to. You'll see. And I don't want to give it all away, but it's a really, really good video. That portion of the video especially.

[A]

Yeah. So he did a great job there. And if you watch the Leica hater reviews Leica cameras, that was Austin's video as well.

[B]

That is basically a recap of testing those two Leicas against each other in Paris. And obviously we used footage and everything from the vlog and all the Paris stuff.

[A]

Yeah, it's just the goal when hiring another employee for us has always been like, we could hire an editor that's anywhere in the world, but that doesn't help us if Stephen and I can't shoot all the stuff all the time.

[B]

Well, you wanna always travel to places. And I am obviously limited now with two children and I can only go so far for so long. And Austin, he can really go wherever. And his previous job, he was used to traveling.

[A]

Well, what I'll say is I did ask his girlfriend if I could take her boyfriend to Paris for the weekend. I had him ask her.

[B]

She loved that.

[A]

I. Well, I wanted her to give permission. I was like, is it okay if I take your boyfriend Austin to Paris? And she was. She was very nice about it.

[B]

So.

[A]

Yeah. And the other video that we just put out was the 17 to 17. The 7 to 14 fisheye from Canon has officially come out as a review.

[B]

A very quirky, weird, odd lens that you may or may not need. And if you need it, you probably need it for like one or two pictures. It's hard to. It's hard to recommend. And I know you feel the opposite. I know you kind of think you should have it in your bag, right?

[A]

No, I. It's. It's a very hard lens to justify for the majority of people out there.

[B]

Well, at the end of the video, you basically say you should have it along with the 10 to 20 for yourself.

[A]

For me, yes. Because it came in handy when I was in the huddle with at the World Baseball Classic, I felt that the fisheye was better inside of the huddle than the 10 millimeter because a 10 millimeter would stretch out those edges. And where the fisheye worked is it made it softer, it made it feel like I was more part of something because it was more rounded. That's just how I felt.

[B]

It's one feel like an intimate experience. Almost like you're part of that picture.

[A]

Exactly. And a fisheye, the way that I recommend it is it's your fifth or sixth lens. It's not your first, second, third, fourth lens.

[B]

It's your master.

[A]

It's one of those things that you use sparingly. And when you do have it, you put it on for 2% of the photo shoot and then you throw it in your bag and you don't take it out again. That's it.

[B]

Did you find yourself really only shooting at diagonal full frame fisheye or did you do circular as well?

[A]

I only did circular just to give us the look for whether when we're reviewing or comparing. I don't know that circular is very useful.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

So it's just, it's special, like in a weird way. But then the 14 I liked for showing the scene I show in the

[B]

video, you know, a picture. I've talked about this before. The picture of Paramore that I took at the pit where I. If I didn't have an 8 millimeter circular fisheye with me, that picture would not exist. And what I ended up doing is pretty much cropping in and stretching it and it worked and, and it made for a great photo. But I needed that 8 millimeter circular fisheye for it. And again, I need to crop in, lose resolution, lose detail, all of that. Besides that image, I probably used that lens four or five times now. That was also a fixed 8 millimeter circular fisheye. I just hated the circle part of it.

[A]

Well, I was gonna say if you had a 10 millimeter on a canon these days, or the Laowa 10 millimeter 2.8, it would have been the same photo.

[B]

Basically, I prefer two all day if I can keep straighter lines, even if they're a little distorted at the edges and stretched. I don't know, the fisheye just isn't for me, that look. And if I had the 7 to 14, I'd probably stick to 13 and 14. That's where it's full diagonal.

[A]

But then in the video, in the review, we show my Silvertide stuff where in a recording studio. It was perfect and that was with the 10 1/2 millimeter fisheye. Because at the time Nikon only had DX, they didn't have full frame. So I had a 16 fisheye, but that was useless. I actually traded that to Richie Myers so he could use that. And then I got the 10 and a half fisheye and then I ended up getting that 16 fisheye back. And I still have it upstairs.

[B]

I actually think it gives kind of a nostalgic twist to the images too. A certain look. Like those Silvertide images in the studio feel like they're almost from the 90s. Especially the black and white.

[A]

They're from the 2000.

[B]

Oh, I know, but just because of the distorted edges, the high ISO, the noise, the black and white, it just feels like it's an older style image.

[A]

Yeah, it was good stuff back then.

[B]

It was.

[A]

Yeah. So anyway, those are the videos. That's a little recap of the Paris vlog coming. The, like a hater thing. And you know, Austin's doing some good stuff, which is the exact reason that I wanted another shooter editor is to allow them to come film with me while Steven is still working on other stuff and Dan's working on other stuff. And then Austin can hit the ground running on his own and we end up with more content that's different than other stuff we're doing. It's additive to what we're doing.

[B]

The biggest thing I've always said is keeping you busy. That was always the hard task because Dan and I would be head down editing a big project while you're sitting there for a few days, like twiddling your thumbs, wanting to, itching to get out and shoot and wanting to.

[A]

I'm doing that now, Steven, and you

[B]

are doing it now.

[A]

I am doing that right now because I'm not out shooting.

[B]

The hope is that Austin will be shooting with you while we're editing and then vice versa while Austin's editing. I'm shooting with you. Or something like that. Just to keep you nonstop busy.

[A]

I mean, I do have some lenses to test out. The 35 to 128 Tamron showed up before I went away on the last trip and I was away for over 10 days, so that showed up late. The 3512 Sigma showed up late. We're not going to review the 3514.

[B]

Not 1, 2.

[A]

Yeah, shit. 3514 version 2 Sigma is what I meant to say. Showed up and they also sent the 15 1.4 crop. We're not going to review that lens

[B]

a Very busy lineup when it comes to ultra wide for APS C that Sigma is putting out, in my opinion.

[A]

All right, moving on to some Canon rumors. We'll get to the rumors of the R7 Mark II in a second. But right before we came on the air today, there was a new rumor on Canon rumors that talked about a second version of a 2472.8 coming. And they suggest that it might be the first VCM zoom lens on its way and that it will go wider than 24. So the rumor says that they'll have a 20 to 72.8 VCM, and that is interesting. My biggest question, of course, is how much digital lens correction is going to be added to that, because it seems like those VCMs have a strong lens correction applied at all times.

[B]

Extreme lens correction, especially on the wide end. This lens kind of already exists. Sony has it, but it's F4. It's a 2070. Remember we reviewed that a couple years back. The thing we didn't like about it was that it was a stop slower than the 24 to 70. It was also a G, not a GM lens, didn't have image stabilization. This one, they're saying, is going to be a 2.8, an L lens, have image stabilization, have the VCM motors. It goes 4 millimeters wider. I'm sure it'll be much smaller and lighter, because again, they're gonna rely heavily, I assume, on the digital lens correction. And I really hate it. I do.

[A]

The thing with it is if you know, you know, and if you don't know, you don't really care. But when you see what it does, sometimes you like it, and sometimes you're like, yeah, no, it just kind of ruined my photo, and I want to turn it off.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Hey, Chip. Hey, buddy. Oh, Steven, Steven, Steven. It's me, Chip. What?

[B]

For once, he's in my office while we're recording because he was scratching at my door. Let me let him out.

[A]

Someone's scratching at the door. Someone's ringing a bell. Do me a favor. Open the door and let him in. Mm.

[B]

Okay, I'm back.

[A]

Stephen is back from, like, who let the dog out? Steven.

[B]

Who?

[A]

Steven. Steven let the dog out. Yeah, so the. We were. We were talking about lens correction, and I don't know. I mean, a 20 to 70. Doesn't Sony have a 20 to 70? But it's an F4.

[B]

I just said that.

[A]

Oh, was I not paying attention? No, I must have. Literally, pay attention.

[B]

We've seen this before, but it was F4. Stop slower that didn't have much stabilization. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I was. I was busy texting. That had a lot of lens correction on it.

[B]

Yes. At the 20 wide end it had. That was probably the first lens that we noticed that it really heavily relied on digital lens correction. And it shows because it, again, it's a much smaller, lighter version than their 24 to 72.8 GM. And because of that, it relies on that lens correction.

[A]

Yeah, so. So 2.8 is dead to me, as I've alluded to for myself, because I consider 2.8 to be the new F4. When you have F2s and 1.4s and 1.8s and 1.2s these days. That's not to say they're bad. They're great to have a 2.8 available and at the prices like a 28 to 70 RF, the less expensive one to have. These options that exist are incredible. I don't know, man. If they do a 20 to 72.8, I'd be like, well, that's pretty interesting because that's a. That's a big zoom range.

[B]

It is. I will say too, there's no more hole in that lineup. Now you can do the 10 to 20 and then a 20 to 72 8.

[A]

I don't care about those types of hole. I like holes of all kinds, you know, different sizes.

[B]

But when I was in the photo pit, I was usually relying on an ultra wide lens like a 16 to 35 at the time or 70 to 200. It was rare when I used the 24 to 70 half the time.

[A]

Yeah, I mean that obviously I use the 28 to 70 often because the F2 just. I love the look that it gives me. That is a replacement lens. I couldn't imagine if Canon comes out with a 20 to 72.8 and a replacement to a 28 to 70. If that goes to 24 to 72 F2, man, I would be super happy. I will trade the size and weight. I will keep the size and weight if they went wider.

[B]

That's a good point. Maybe this is. This is opening up that lineup now for a 24 to 70 F2. So now you're gonna have a 20 to 72.8. You get the little wide end, but it's 2.8 or you go to the 24 to 70 and it's F2 now. It's probably gonna be a $3,500 lens.

[A]

You guys could always text us on the text line. I haven't said that in a while. It's 3137-109729-31710-9729. The text line is brought to you by nobody because we don't do plugs. My dad was asking me about plugs in podcasts. He's like, do you do advertisements from them? I'm like, well, because he was asking the numbers. He called right before we started.

[B]

Oh, that's so weird.

[A]

And I was like, well, he called to tell me about his blood work being perfect, and he was just like, oh, my blood work for the first time ever has all the good parameters.

[B]

You are.

[A]

You're fine. So he asked, and I'm like, look, we've actually been offered a pretty good plug recently for, like, 10 episodes. And I kind of turned. Well, I did turn it down. And I feel like with podcasts, if you do something organic, fine. Like, it works. But if you just do the interruption plug where it cuts to something else and it just plays dumb shit like better help. Now, I just skip it. I literally skip everything when there's a plug that comes on that's not organic.

[B]

I skip it every single time. Yeah. And, you know, I'm sure people feel the same way about our videos when we interrupt for a plug and they just skip it. But the hope is that someone new comes on and watches the video for the first time, watches us for the first time, and sees that we offer presets, stuff like that. Not so much for the everyday audience. Yeah, and we don't run those generic, like, you're saying, better help ads where there's a whole new. A whole nother speaker doing. The ad read, better help.

[A]

Better help.

[B]

Which, by the way, I haven't heard of better help ad in a minute. I feel like they were all over the place. Well, not so much.

[A]

Yeah, because better help is stupid. Because everything is. Look, I love, like, people like, you need to better yourself. I hate. You know what term I hate?

[B]

You don't love therapy.

[A]

Off. I did therapy. I tried therapy. I tried therapy a few times. The one woman didn't like her. The next guy tried to sleep with me, didn't like him.

[B]

I've heard it many times.

[A]

I go and work out. That's my therapy. And what works for me or what works for you is for you, and what works for me is for me. I found that I know what I need to do, and it's good. But the term that I absolutely despise today that a lot of the pussy kids are using is, well, they couldn't accept that is past Trauma. The past trauma of my childhood. And then I hear Scott Galloway. He's like, it's called life. It's your life.

[B]

I mean, there might actually be legit trauma, and you can't get over situations. Everybody's different.

[A]

But it's like, oh, you got yelled at as a kid. That's trauma. I was like, it's fucking life. Deal with it. Stop being a little bitch.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Really? The pussification. Well, I haven't gone down that route in a while. The pussification of the kids today is absolutely insane. I couldn't imagine being, like, a teacher in school and getting a message where it's like, is practice gonna be hard today? Because it's sunny out and Jonathan needs to drink a lot of extra water. It's like, stop being a little bitch. Okay?

[B]

We practice gentle parenting in this household.

[A]

Do you?

[B]

No.

[A]

Do you, Steven?

[B]

No. No, we do not.

[A]

He's like, definite and like my brother. Like, I hear. I see how he deals with the kids. And they listen because they know there are. There are repercussions if you do stuff. But he also gives them a lot of rope. Like, they were playing in my basement the other night. They came over for the premiere, and I got my gym down there, and I can hear weights, like, you know, from the weight machine. He's like, yeah, if they get hurt, that's. They'll learn.

[B]

You know, we are at the point in this household where when daddy comes down, then shit's real.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Because I don't raise my voice often, but when I do, it's. It means something.

[A]

Oh, can we hear a little example of this? Let's make sure. Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.

[B]

Eckhart, get your ass down.

[A]

I'm Hannah. Shut up. Daddy. Yeah.

[B]

Why are you hating me? I will never do that, I'll tell you that.

[A]

Daddy. Yeah. Stop it, Daddy.

[B]

No. I'm your standard parent. I don't go extreme on either side. So we. We do a pretty good job. But there's times I want to do that. I'll tell you that.

[A]

I want to do that with my cat. When the cat started to scratch the sofa the other day, I'm like, how am I going to be with a kid?

[B]

Try. Try having a two and a half year old toddler that talks back.

[A]

I need. Oh, you motherfucker. What did you just say? You little.

[B]

Dude, she's too smart. It's. It's scary.

[A]

Yeah, whatever. Like, go sit in the corner or no Disney on ice for you.

[B]

There's a lot of Bartering that has to be made now for sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In this house.

[A]

All right, let's get to the big rumors here. You want to hit up the big story, Steven?

[B]

All right, so yeah, let's talk about the R7 Mark 2 rumors first. I do want to preface this entire section though. The goal of the seven line was to always be the flagship of the APS C line. It was the APS C version of the 5 series that Canon had. The 7D was basically the 5D Mark II and III cropped. APS C 7D Mark II was 5D 4 cropped and then the R7 was essentially the R5 cropped and so on. They were all basic FSI sensors back then. But now the R5 II has a BSI stack sensor. And Canon Rumors is now saying, with quote, a good level of confidence that the rumored R7 Mark II will have a 39 megapixel BSI stacked APS C sensor. He goes on to say, I have been told multiple times that it will be 39 megapixels. I haven't been told a different resolution even from anonymous sources. Now the question is, is it partially stacked or is it fully stacked just like the R5 II? I think this is going to be, if this does actually happen, it's going to be a budget birder's dream camera. I mean you got crop stacked high resolution sensor camera for ultimate reach and speed and cropability on top of that. Your favorite thing. And they're saying a mid May and early June announcement. That is the rumor for now. I will say. I mean it's going to have extreme pixel density with a much smaller pixel pitch on like a 39 megapixel APS C sensor. I'm curious if they're really going to pull that off. We will see.

[A]

Well, so my take is I fully understand that not every photographer needs or wants to have the latest, greatest full frame sensor. So I can acknowledge that.

[B]

Case in point, again, newborn photos that we just got was taken on a D750 from 10 plus years ago.

[A]

Well, yeah, studio lighting, all that stuff could be done with any camera in the history of anything because it's studio lighting.

[B]

Yeah, and again, this is more of a, this is total different demographic. I think this is more for the wildlife shooters, the birders, stuff like that.

[A]

Yeah, but I look, I'm not the guy who would want to buy a crop sensor camera when a full frame camera exists. So that's not something that I personally would want to do. I did have crop sensor at the beginning because that's all Nikon offered. D2H, they were crop sensors, we use those. But that was 4.1 megapixels. But I do fully understand that there are a big billion and one people that love birding. They love going out into the wilderness. They love the theoretical extra reach that you get with the 1.6 crop factor. And I will say yes, it does make your lenses longer. You know, theoretically.

[B]

I mean, throw a 200 to 800 on this thing.

[A]

I hate that lens. I'm sorry, that lens is just such overkill again.

[B]

The birders though, they want the overkill,

[A]

they want the 100. I think a 100 to 500 is good enough on that because that's a What, like a 150 to 6 something. What's 500 times 800? Fuck, my math sucks.

[B]

800, it would be a 160 to 800.

[A]

Perfect. So for those birders, that's perfect. The speed, the amazing auto focus, a stack sensor that's probably doing 30 frames or probably 40 frames a second with pre capture. And I'm totally fine at this point with that. For somebody who just wants to go take these great, wants to go take better pictures but doesn't want to go full frame, isn't going to do a 5D, gets the theoretical reach, doesn't care as much about quality as I personally do because I don't think a 39 megapixel sensor makes sense. I don't know why they have to go with more megapixels on a smaller sensor. Why can't you do 20 or 24 and make it cleaner and better and yet still can crop? If you want to crop and have better low light capability.

[B]

Well, keep in mind, 39 megapixels lets you achieve 8K video. Oh, if they want to have a high end video spec because again, mini R5 Mark II, R5 II has 8K and now the R7 II will theoretically have 8K or at least be capable of shooting 8K. The other thing is we'll have a CF Express B card now because we're dealing with larger files. I'm assuming the frame rate is going to be at least 30 because the current R7 is 30 in electronic. Will it be 40 like the R6 3 lineup and the R8? The issue with the original R7 though was that it had an extremely slow electronic readout, close to 30 milliseconds or something like that. So yeah, it had like a great fast electronic shutter frame rate at 30 frames per second. But it wasn't even usable unless you wanted like crazy harsh rolling shutter. It did have 15 frames per second. Mechanical though, which was great.

[A]

Which is really good.

[B]

Yeah, I mean I think my original 7D, what was it? 8?

[A]

I was 8 with the. I think you might have been 10 on the 7D, but I was 8 with the D2H.

[B]

Now I know you say like, you know, full frame or bust. I feel like the 7D lineup was always for people that really couldn't afford full frame. But this might be the first $2,000 plus APS C camera from Canon.

[A]

Well, that's been my thing too, is yes, it was more of a cost effective option, but this is considered, would be considered like a pro level crop sensor option. Flagship which comes with expensive, you know, a higher expense. I look at the D500 back in the day. Still one of the cameras that I think I absolutely despised though. So many people loved it because they're like, oh, It's a mini D5 or whatever the hell was out at the time. And it just, I just, that camera just lacked a tightness when it came to focus.

[B]

But I will say, Even if it's $2,000, that is still half, less than half than with the current R5.2.

[A]

Yeah, but R6, mark 2, R6, mark 3, R8. Oh, I know those aggressive options. R8 is 40 frames a second with an electronic shutter, for God's sake.

[B]

Yeah, it's. It's a hard sell if it's going to be $2,000 or more. And I feel like they're going that way because right now the current R7 sells for what, 1600. And seeing the way the market's going, I'm assuming it's going to be at least 18.

[A]

Well, that's got to be on sale.

[B]

No, I think it was always. It was 1500 when it came out and then tariffs hit and it went to like 1600. Yeah, same with the A6700, which is like the R7 equivalent for Sony. It's about 1600.

[A]

Talk about a lineup that hasn't been touched in years.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Kind of like me.

[B]

Something that will maybe rival the R7 Mark II will be the rumored a 6900 from Sony.

[A]

Where's the 6800, Stephen?

[B]

That's a good question. I know Japan gets weird with their numbers. I always thought the nine was one. Was, was a number they didn't touch, but I guess not. I don't know.

[A]

I don't know anything about the numbers, but. Where's 68, Stephen?

[B]

So the A6700 is Sony's current flagship APS C camera like we just talked about. The R7 is Canon's version. Now they're trying to refresh it on Sony's side. It's only been like two, two and a half years though since the A6700 was announced. So I don't really find this rumor to be true. I expected an FX30 mark 2 before an A67 replacement.

[A]

Yeah, but Steven, but look, look, you also have. What did they do? We didn't think that the A7 5 was going to make the leaps and bounds that it made. So they just were like, you know what, let's give this thing the bells and whistles and make the jump. Maybe they're going to do the same thing with the A6900.

[B]

Maybe, yeah. I mean they're going to have some competition now if this R7 Mark II will actually exist and will come out soon. Now Sony Alpha Rumors is saying this is a wild rumor. So take it with a grain of salt, they're saying, quote, sharing this info I got from a new source. Yeah, so take it with a grain of salt, he says. Now it will supposedly be a new generation standard APS C design, a bit thicker than the current a 6700 for better grip is what they're saying. And it will apparently have two extra customizable buttons, C1 and C3. The A6700 was basically like the A7 C2 design, if you recall. I do find it weird that they're saying two new customizable buttons because the A6700 already has a C1 button and a C3 even though that's like the delete button. Now they're saying it will have a brand new 33 megapixel chip on wafer stacked design. Again, are we talking about partially or full stacked here? It will be powered by the new Bionz XR2 processor. That's kind of a given. I assume every model from Sony at this point is coming out with that. That will support 30 frames per second electronic continuous shooting and 15 frames per second mechanical. That sounds very familiar, doesn't it? Just like the R7 and the R7 II, I assume. And then just like the A6700, the A6900 will support only electronic front curtain shutter. So it won't be a true mechanical shutter. And it'll have a max electronic shutter speed of 1:16,000 of a second. And then they go on to say like crazy, image stabilization 8 1/2 stops of Ibis CF Express Type A cards this time around. Not just SD, I assume to support that 30 frames per second readout and then pretty much the same video specs as the current a 6700 full width 7k over sampled 4k 60 and then a crop over sampled 4k. No crop, they say oversampled 4k 120. There's no way that's true. I don't know, this seems a little wild to me, but we will see.

[A]

Yeah, it just seems like Sony has not talked about those cameras very much. But when you look at like when they talk about camera sales, you end up seeing a lot of ZV camera sales, smaller camera sales. Like we don't ever get numbers. It would be very interesting to know what the numbers are. Is this a world where pro and crop sensor cameras make up 10% of sales? Right. Like. Or is their volume all made up with the smaller lower end R50s R1 hundreds? Right. Like any of, any of the. What is it, what was it? R50. Is there an R50 for Canon? Yeah, yeah, it's like the R50. Like those, we don't think in those terms because we're, we're stuck over here in the, you know, real camera world. But that doesn't mean you can't do good things with those other cameras.

[B]

I'm just still surprised, like you're kind of alluding to that. They, they keep this APS C line going when their entry level like full frame cameras are so cheap and affordable.

[A]

You know, that's the thing is like, why not just be like, look, it's so affordable to do full frame at this point that we're giving you like, I mean Nikon has the Z5 2, you know, that's a solid offering.

[B]

Like with Canon, you know, you have the R8 for sure, but they stripped a lot of things from the R8 in terms of like the pro features.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

No IBIS, no dual card slots, you know, smaller battery, that kind of stuff. But with Sony you have the A7CII, which has almost everything the other cameras have at this point. At least the A7IV, the A7 5 is a little more expensive. But how much will this camera be? I mean the current A6700 is again like I said earlier, $1,600. Will this be another $2,000 camera? And that's going to be hard to stack up against something like that. A7CII? Yeah, I personally would just buy like an A7R V if I was in the Sony world and shoot in APS C mode if I needed to. You get the best of both worlds. It's like the same you get with the A6700, a 26 megapixel crop of the center of the frame and you get APS C or full frame when you need it. And it's obviously a professional high end camera, dual card slots, all that stuff.

[A]

There's so many options today. It makes it hard to. Kind of hard to do. What we do is there's so much new stuff and the world is filled with. You think you need the newest, latest and greatest and you really don't. We all know that it still comes down to fundamentals and I couldn't hammer that home enough.

[B]

I think what Sony needs to do is refresh the RX100 line at this point. The compact camera is back for the most part and people want something like that. Granted, the RX line was always a very expensive compact camera.

[A]

It was like 1100 bucks.

[B]

I think it's like 1300 now.

[A]

Jesus.

[B]

But it's been seven years. I think they're on the RX100 Mark VII at this point. And 2019 is when that thing came out. I don't know why, they kind of abandoned that whole line.

[A]

I know it kind of feels like Sony has abandoned quite a lot. And now they feel like, like Sony had this big lead and then it feels like they sat back on their laurels or they shifted resources and like, you know what, we make all the sensors for everybody, so does it really matter if we go this direction?

[B]

I still think they're killing it with full frame and full frame GM lenses, all of that. They just really went full on into that world and then kind of abandoned APS C until the A6700 came out. And I don't know, maybe the A6900 will be another refresh and blow us away.

[A]

Can I just say it's bullshit. It's Bullshit. Where's the 6800? You're just going to skip the number?

[B]

I don't understand that. I really don't.

[A]

And why couldn't it just be an A67 Mark 2? Right?

[B]

Like didn't they skip the A6302 or something like that?

[A]

I know there's a 64. I know there's a 65.

[B]

No, they do have an A6300. There was a number they skipped. Maybe it was a 6200. I think it was that. Yeah, it was a 6000 then a 63, then 64, then they have the 67 and 65, obviously and 66. They skipped the 6200. I don't know why.

[A]

All right, well, we have no answers for you. These are rumors and we'll see what happens. We just, we don't know. We don't know. It would be interesting to see if they do come out with it. I. You know what? Because Canon's crop sensor bodies feel much better than Sony's crop sensor bodies, mostly because they have a larger viewfinder in the right place.

[B]

I really think the only decent feeling body is the R7 for the crop lineup because that takes the regular LP E6 battery. It has the bigger grip, bigger body. The other ones are very small in the hands. But yeah, they do have EVFs, but they're. They're tiny. I do like that they have the middle EVF and not shifted to the left. I don't know. They're small cameras, hard to use.

[A]

All right, so to wrap up this episode, number 190, there's a bunch of videos coming out. I do like what Steven said earlier about the vlog that's coming. I really think you will enjoy it when you watch it. I think if you sit down, you got 44 minutes or if you watch it on YouTube, you can watch it in half the time. If you watch it at 2x, which is how I personally watch the video. But if you want to watch it at regular speed, it's a good story, really. It's me just talking to the camera normally going through a bunch of different scenarios, situations, photo shoots, jogging, eating food. Like it's done very well. And so we don't know how to title these type of things to hopefully get people to watch them. But we're gonna keep doing them because they are good for the people that do watch them. I think they will enjoy it.

[B]

So that's that the goal is always, you know, one for them, one for us type deal. Like, you know, you want to do more of the creative vlog style videos, you of kind can do that. And then we can still have the gear driven stuff that we know for sure gets views down the road.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So one for them, one for us.

[A]

And if you haven't checked out Born to Bowl, the unofficial podcast, you can find it in this channel as well. And as Stephen mentioned earlier on YouTube, there's multiple channels for Raw Talk podcast as well as the Born to Bowl unofficial podcast premiere is over. So Mondays at 9pm in the United States you can watch on HBO and HBO Max we appreciate you guys who have watched it. We do have other content coming out in the future that will show you what I'm shooting with behind the scenes and everything. But we'll see that out as the series continues on. And hopefully it does well, because if it does well, then I'm happy. Doesn't do well, then I'm not happy. Well, I'm really never happy.

[B]

So you said it.

[A]

So there's all that.

[B]

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[A]

you could always text us at 313-710-9729. That's one of the easier ways to

[B]

get us direct line of communication.

[A]

Literally it is a direct line that comes to Steven and I. We have access to look at the messages that come in and reply when needed to be replied to. But that is one of the best places you can reach us that we actually get easier.

[B]

You actually have a ton of Born to Bowl comments you need to respond to.

[A]

I do.

[B]

There's a lot of texts that just came in. Yeah. Just yesterday. There's five or six that came in about Born to Bowl.

[A]

Well, then I better take a look.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, guys, so we're going to wrap up this 190. Thank you very much for listening. Jared Paul infronos photo.com See ya.

[B]

Bye.