Bassem Youssef | Ep. 162

Summary

Full Send Podcast - Episode 162: Bassem Youssef
Host: Steiny | Release Date: July 31, 2025

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1. Introduction & Context

[00:01] Steiny:
Steiny welcomes listeners to the first live episode of the Full Send Podcast and introduces Bassem Youssef as the guest. He references a recent controversial episode featuring Benjamin Netanyahu, which sparked significant backlash.

2. Controversial Episode with Benjamin Netanyahu

[00:21] Bassem Youssef:
Expresses surprise at the backlash and apologizes for not being familiar with the Nelk Boys, the influencers involved in the controversial episode. He reflects on the challenges of being in the public eye and the repercussions of hosting a high-profile guest like Netanyahu without adequate preparation.

[02:08] Bassem Youssef:
Highlights the difficulties influencers face when unknowingly becoming part of propaganda efforts. He compares the situation to being thrust into a role without proper understanding or preparation.

3. Israel's Propaganda and Influence

[03:41] Steiny:
Mentions the Nelk video, prompting Youssef to delve deeper into Israel's propaganda strategies.

[04:00] Bassem Youssef:
Discusses Israel's increased "hasbara" (public diplomacy) budget of $150 million, aimed at influencing college campuses and hiring influencers to portray a sanitized version of reality. He criticizes the portrayal of Palestinians as simplistic and one-dimensional.

4. Allegations Against Israeli Government and Policies

[05:29] Bassem Youssef:
Accuses the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) of simulation exercises that glamorize counterterrorism tactics and breeding dogs for killing, linking these practices to real-world atrocities, including the killing of vulnerable individuals.

[07:00] Bassem Youssef:
Details the alleged systematic targeting of aid workers and civilians in Gaza, citing specific incidents and statistics. He claims that the Israeli government manipulates narratives to obscure its actions and responsibilities.

5. AIPAC's Lobbying Power and Its Impact

[24:18] Bassem Youssef:
Explains the significant influence of AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) in the U.S. Congress, stating that "80% of Congress are openly financed by AIPAC." He argues that this financial influence prioritizes Israel's interests over those of the American populace.

[35:15] Bassem Youssef:
Highlights the financial contributions from AIPAC to American politicians, presenting it as a mechanism that undermines national priorities in favor of foreign interests.

6. Conflation of Antisemitism with Israeli Policies

[30:16] Bassem Youssef:
Argues that linking Jewish identity solely with support for Israel is problematic. He equates this conflation to unfairly associating being Jewish with supporting a genocidal state, thereby fueling antisemitism.

[31:13] Bassem Youssef:
Provides examples of Israeli propaganda, such as IDF soldiers engaging in activities that contradict military discipline, to illustrate how negative perceptions of Israel are manipulated to foster antisemitic sentiments.

7. Impact on the Host and His Community

[12:09] Steiny:
Shares personal experiences of receiving backlash from friends and acquaintances after the Netanyahu episode, emphasizing the strain on personal relationships and the emotional toll of hosting controversial figures.

[67:00] Steiny:
Expresses the emotional difficulty of engaging with the heavy and dark topics discussed, noting the exhaustion from consuming conflicting information from different sides.

8. Discussion on Possible Solutions and Path to Peace

[62:59] Bassam Youssef:
Suggests that achieving peace requires addressing the root cause of the conflict, which he identifies as the occupation and displacement of Palestinians by Israeli settlers. He advocates for voting out politicians influenced by foreign lobbies to initiate change.

[63:16] Steiny:
Acknowledges the complexity of the situation and the pervasive loyalty of American politicians to Israel, questioning how meaningful change can be effected under current circumstances.

9. Conclusion

[77:04] Steiny:
Reflects on the educational value of the conversation and acknowledges the profound insights gained from Bassem Youssef's perspectives.

[79:21] Steiny:
Thanks Bassem Youssef for his participation, highlighting the importance of awareness and education in addressing the issues discussed.

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Notable Quotes

• Bassem Youssef [00:39]:
  "It's better to actually learn from what's happening and look at the bigger picture instead of just like destroying two young people like you."

• Bassem Youssef [03:41]:
  "This is part of a much bigger propaganda effort... it's fake."

• Bassem Youssef [24:18]:
  "80% of Congress are openly financed by AIPAC, which is the Israeli lobby."

• Bassem Youssef [30:18]:
  "Being Jewish means being pro-Israel... That is crazy, right?"

• Bassem Youssef [62:59]:
  "You need to vote those fucking people out."

• Steiny [67:00]:
  "It's really hard to get into this."

Conclusion

This episode delves deep into the complex and contentious issues surrounding Israeli politics, U.S. lobbying influence, and the portrayal of Palestinians. Bassem Youssef offers a critical perspective on the impacts of propaganda, the role of influential lobbies like AIPAC, and the personal ramifications for hosts and influencers who engage with controversial figures. The conversation underscores the importance of education, awareness, and critical thinking in navigating such polarized topics.

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Note: The summary above captures the key discussions and perspectives presented in the podcast episode. The views expressed by Bassem Youssef reflect his opinions and should be considered within the broader context of ongoing geopolitical debates.

Transcript

[Steiny]

All right, everybody, welcome to another episode of the Full Send podcast. This is actually our very first live episode we've ever done. It's an interesting one for our first live, but I'm making history. We're making history. We have Steiny here. And I want to welcome Bassam Yousef to the Full Send Podcast. Thank you for being with us. How you doing?

[Bassam Yousef]

Thank you for having me, guys.

[Steiny]

Of course. Obviously, last week was controversial for us, to say the least. We had someone on the podcast. Very controversial, as I said, to say it in the, in the least form. What, what was your reaction when you saw that we had Benjamin Netanyahu on the Full?

[Bassam Yousef]

Well, I, I didn't know about what's, I, I am sorry to say, like, I, because I'm not your demographic, so I didn't know who the Nel boys is, but, like, I found my DMs exploding. So. Did you see what the Nel boys did? It's like, who, who the fuck boys? And then I, I, I didn't know that you're that big. I'm sorry, again, I'm not your, your targeted demography. So I, I, I, I apologize for my ignorance. So, and then I started following what's going on and the aftermath and being in the public eye for 15 years, I understand what does it mean to be in a very tough situation and now having trying to crawl out of that situation. It's difficult, especially with the backlash, because the bigger you are, the bigger the backlash. And I mean, let's be honest, there's a lot of people, when they knew that I'm on the podcast, like, yeah, go there, do them. You know, have them. And I said, like, there's nothing to gain from just canceling people without knowing what went wrong. Because I think it is better to actually to learn from what's happening and look at the bigger picture instead of just like, you know, destroying two young people like you, because that doesn't serve anybody right. It just, it makes people happy that you guys are falling. But the bigger picture is, why did this happen and why was this. How were you used? A part of you is your responsibility and part of you not knowing. So I heard many of the justification that happened saying that, well, you know, it was a great opportunity. And I'm like, wouldn't you, like, get him on the podcast? I said, yes. If somebody told me, would you interview Netanyahu? I was like, hell, yeah, but I'll be prepared. And I think the biggest part of you, that you were not prepared two years under like the biggest genocide in our history. You guys had no idea what's going on. If somebody told me, hey, you're going to be tomorrow on the starting five of the Lakers in the NBA, it's like, that's a great opportunity, but I'm not prepared. I'm not going to make a fool out of myself. So it's not about you platforming someone or someone giving a chance for like free speech. You were used, right? And it didn't start with the podcast. It started two years ago in March 2023, when you went to Israel. Because I know, like I told you, that the Israel has increased their hasbara budget, which is their propaganda machine with $150 million. And part of that money goes to influence people in college campuses, hire influencers like you, getting them into fancy trips to Israel, giving them this filtered, layered picture that is made up. It is fake. I mean, I watched it yesterday and I was cringing because. Not because like you are showing how cool Israel is or they have nightclubs.

[Steiny]

You'Re saying, our Nelk video.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, because when the part when you mentioned Palestine, do you remember we go into a place that is so dangerous now, Palestine. And then you are in a bus and then like special forces come in and kidnap you. And this, this kind of like IDF simulation counterterrorism. And. And then they're telling you, we have a dog that only breeded in Israel, it can kill a man. And you understand that like the kind of psychopathic behavior of a country that tells you like part of its like tourist attraction, that we're killing terrorists and we're breeding dogs to kill human beings. And by the way, I don't know, part of the anger is like just last year there was like a kid with autism and down syndrome that was killed by one of these dogs. And then the next scene is, let's go and see Palestinian family. And the only Palestinian family in this video are a bunch of Bedouins in a tent. A guy who's married, two wives. And he tells you, my whole life is about camels and goats and chicken. And then you find like a 60 years old one. I just live on pita, bread and milk. So even if October 7th didn't happen, you were used in a propaganda machine to tell people, this is what you need to know about Palestinians. They're just like a bunch of people with cows and goats marrying two people living in a tent, happy with a pita, bread and milk. So you were recruited in March 2023, and you were activated in July 2025. Right. And I'm saying this because I'm saying this out there for all of the influencers around there, because there's a lot of people got backlash. There's influencer went there, like wearing idf. It's like we didn't know what we're going on. Like you, I didn't know I'm kissing a Jewish wall.

[Steiny]

I mean, yeah, I can definitely admit that. I mean, I think we were both just ignorant to what was going on over there. And obviously, you know, I knew he was. I'll be honest, I thought he was controversial, but I was definitely ignorant to what was going on in that area. And I can admit that. And it was definitely. I regret. I wish we could have gone back and, you know, had two weeks to sit down with someone like yourself and just. We should have grilled him 50,000, 100,000 times harder. But something we can't get back. And we'll probably.

[Bassam Yousef]

Of course. But I know you can get back this, like, trip in Israel, but I'm just telling you, this was like part of a much bigger propaganda effort, right? And a country that spends $150 million on its image, they are covering something. When they spread all of these propaganda, it's like, we're not starving people in Gaza. You understand that? This conversation has been happening for two years. First of all, I'm not absolving you from your trip. You guys are not little kids. You are fucking 30 years old. Right? People in your age have families and they have a career, and you need to stop. I'm just saying this because you're my little brothers, but you're not little. Right? You need to stop infantilizing yourself. It's like, we're just stupid people doing stupid stuff. You're 30 years old and you need to be aware of what's happening in the world and that your reach and your platforms mean something and it affects people. And I think the biggest reason why people were so upset for you, not because you brought someone and you didn't contest him, that it is the talking point that he used, is the same talking points that have been used for two years to kill thousands of people. Right? So, I mean, and part of the people, part of the reason why where people were so angry is that forget even if you don't know anything about the conflict, there was like a total lack of critical thinking. I mean, you guys asked him the one good question when you told them in October 7th, how could this be allowed to happen? Everybody knowing that Mossad Is like a crazy intelligent thing that infiltrates people and put bombs in pages. How did you not see that coming? But also a critical thinking is how come an attack was allowed for six hours in the most heavily surveilled part in the world. You understand? Like in 2019, they killed like tens, hundreds of people just because they approached the wall between Gaza and Israel. You understand? They killed. You have like copcopters, like drones. You have snipers suddenly for six hours in a. You remember what Netanyahu told me? How big is Israel? He told me it's. It's like as big as Rhode island as Jersey, right? Yeah. Like it. You understand the distance between Gaza and tel Aviv is 44 miles. You understand that like he was just bragging to you. That's like, hey, we went across three countries to bomb Iran. But. But you can't have a single helicopter coming out to defend your people. Like the October 7th was used in order to tell people, look to the Jewish people that were killed. But you don't understand that you pay million of dollars as Americans, as Canadians, to protect those Jewish people. So it's not just like an intelligence failure. It was a deliberate way to let people get slaughtered. And what did he tell you when you asked him what happens? Like, we're still investigating it. Really Investigating for two years. You don't know how people for six hours continue to kill people. That's why when people. We went on other people podcasts and they told you guys, they use the Hannibal directive, they killed their own people. And I sent you all of the stuff. What. What was your reaction? Dude, that's conspiracy again. People were angry because you didn't read what's going on there. Right. Israel uses something called blitzkrieg. You know what? Split creek, it means flash attack. This is the Nazi. Did they do like a very coordinated attack very quickly, very fast. It. And it's like very simple messaging. Decapitated babies, mass rape. Right. So there's an emotional response. People get so angry. And then after a couple of days, everybody goes back to their Netflix, to their UFC fight, to the NBA. And the people who stay as like, wait a minute, that is fucked up. That didn't happen. There are so many plot holes already. Most of the people has already went back to their lives. So the people who stay and hold them accountable will be called fringe obsessed, anti Semitic conspiracy theory, like you said. Oh, dude, this is conspiracy theory. It's not. And this is why I have like sent you all of the videos so you can be educated when you were on the podcast and they were telling you, dude, they spit on Christians in Israel. It's like, I was in Israel. Nobody spit on me. Yes, of course, because you were in a curated propaganda machine that showed you one thing about Israel. Do you remember when you were, like, in that bus and there was a guy with a scarf? It's like, oh, that guy with a scarf. Like, I don't know if you or someone of your friends said, he looks suspicious. It's not that cold. So the only representation of Palestinian are either people staying in a tent or a suspicious guy with a scarf. And I don't know who edited that, if it seemed like Mossad edited it, but. And if you guys have edited that is fucked up, because it just just like, solidifies the same racist tropes about a group of people that being slaughtered and starved to death right now. And then they distract you with questions like, it is Hamas. It's the people. They're not allowing aid in. And you understand that this is the same exact conversation that's been happening for two years. They bomb hospitals. It's not us, it's Hamas. Oh, it's us. But there were Hamas underneath it. It's maybe a mistake. Then after bombing hospital, they bomb schools, and then they bomb entire residential areas. Then they kill women and children. And now two years later, we are. We're discussing the same question, but, like, are we starving them or is it Hamas starving them? You see the cycle of. Of deceit, the cycle of lies, the cycle of propaganda. So that's why I'm not coming here to say, like, oh, they are starving, because I'm not going to go after each and every single lie that he said because it's exhausting. And they have been doing that for two years. So I'm here to show you the patterns and the bigger picture, to understand that you were sitting with a narcissistic, psychopathic liar that used to gaslighting people and lie them to them in their faces.

[Steiny]

Yeah, I want to say, too, yeah, we. Obviously, one thing that hurt me the most when we had him on was just I have a lot of personal, you know, friendships and stuff from people of all religions, and a lot of people were obviously just upset, and they're messaging me personally, like friends, and saying, why did you have him on? And stuff. So when I told them that we're having you on to explain us the bigger picture, they're all very excited. So, honestly, we just want to. We just want to learn about this, and we obviously just want to use our platform to educate people.

[Bassam Yousef]

What do you want to learn about?

[Steiny]

I mean, I think it would just be good for you to, to talk about what Netanyahu said and explain us, you know.

[Bassam Yousef]

Well, one thing I said about the October 7, like, you know, he and I like the. Not just October 7th is the way that he dehumanize a whole population. Remember when he told me how can young people march in the streets with people, people who kill gays? And then he used this like overplayed lame jokes like gays for Gaza is like chicken curve for kfc. And it's just like he keeps saying it in everywhere and he just sounds stupid. And they tell me they are like they would kill women if they're not in hijab. So this guy who pretends that he cares about gays and women and I send you the articles, like how they have actually used revenge porn in order to recruit gay people. They go into Grindr and Facebook and, and Instagram. Like I think you have the, the, the headlines IDF goes on Grindr. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got. And they actually pick those gay people and then they use revenge porn in all in order to hire them as informants. You have that? Yes. So over the past several months I spoke to, there's like, there's a lot of queer Palestinians that actually been used by the IDF in order to actually hire them and informants. And then the same guy who cares about women and children, he already killed more than 28,000 women and children in the last less than a year and a half. And again they use revenge porn. There's even a movie about it made by like an Oscar nominated director, he's a Palestinian and it's called Huda Salon. And they talk about like how for very many years they have spiked women's drinks in beauty salons in order to shoot them and film them in compromised position and then use them or use their husbands and informants. So you understand the level of pathology and the level of narcissistic behavior, the level of evil these people are doing. And then they have the audacity to come and talk about gay people and talk about women. This is crazy, man. You understand? And, and when I went and, and I sent you that stuff in order to you to look and verify. And this is why the reason we're doing this in live, because I invite anybody to fact check everything that I say as we go on.

[Steiny]

So you're saying Israel is. They're recruiting gay people from Palestine and using them.

[Bassam Yousef]

That's, that's happening a lot in the West Bank. Yes.

[Steiny]

Well, so what about, what about some of the stuff Netanyahu said? I know this is for you, is probably basic, but what he said, we asked him if he was purposely starving people in Gaza, and he said Hamas is stealing the food.

[Bassam Yousef]

It's interesting that we would actually take the war of an indicted war criminal and a guy who's been caught lying many times. Like, for example, when he say Iran is days away from creating a nuclear bomb and there's videos of the Internet of him saying many times, oh, Iran is like five months away, three months away. And you understand when you asked him about like Iraq, he says, that's unfortunate. And yet he has a video saying Iraq is month away of creating weapons of mass destruction.

[Steiny]

And you remember, I've seen the video of him talking about Iran.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, so. So you see, you see a guy that, like, if you have a friend, Styni. And you, if you have a friend that consistently lies to you and you caught up lying, when would it be enough to say, okay, that guy, I'm not going to take anything he says. Now the thing about, like him saying, we're not starving, it's Hamas. There is, there's also some of the articles that I send you. There is like multiple articles of Israel killing aid workers, UN Workers, saying that they are Hamas. You know, they, they have killed over like, I don't know the number 100, 200 people of aid. Your workers. They are like lining people in aid lines and then they are killing them when they tell you so.

[Steiny]

People that are not even involved in the conflict. They're aid workers.

[Bassam Yousef]

They, I think, I think the number is like, they killed over 180 doctors. Or, or it's just, it's, it's. The numbers is like so big now. You can't even like, catch up with the numbers. And I was in London, they were playing the world premiere of a documentary called Doctors Under Attack. And it shows you. It's a documentary done by the BBC, by the way. It shows you how. Okay. Oh, it's good there. Yeah.

[Steiny]

It says over 400 Palestinians.

[Bassam Yousef]

So. And of course, it's very easy to say, oh, the United nations is anti Semitic. Everybody is anti Semitic. Everybody is lying. And the only one who's not lying is Netanyahu. Right. So those people that.

[Steiny]

So like this one, for example, is this like a bombing or is this just like they're coming and like gunning them down?

[Bassam Yousef]

They're gunning them down. They're using, they're using drones and killing them. There's the. Even, like, a whistleblower that came a couple of days ago who was working with the aid groups. And he said, like, there's, like, a little kid who came and kissed our hands because we gave him food. And as he was walking away, the IDF shot him in the head. It's crazy, man.

[Steiny]

And this was like, almost a month ago. Not only.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steiny]

And 400 people. Those are civilians.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah. But that number gets updated by the minute right now. And it's. You can just, like, you can go through the headlines if you want, but the reason I'm like, showing you this is that Israel is the only one who has the absolute control of getting aid in and out. And I know that you've seen on the Internet, they're showing their soldiers. Here's the aides sitting here. The UN is not taking them, dude. They are killing. Killing UN workers and calling them Hamas. If you start calling everybody Hamas. The doctors are Hamas, the kids are Hamas. The UNL ordered Hamas. There is no way for people to go in and do anything. You see. You know how desperate people are. People are riding on boats and trying to get aid in. In these flotellas. And one of them is, like, a comedian that you worked with. His name is Jacob Berger. He's Jewish, by the way, from New York. And he was arrested by the idf. And one of them saw that. Yeah. And the only one, the only black dude on that flotilla, he was beaten and tortured. And he's American. Right? So you understand the level of psychopathy that you're dealing with. It's not about, like, our word against their word anymore because they have all of these people activated like you. They try to recruit you. Whether influencers or people in the media telling. It's like, it's not starving. It's just not happy. It's not our fault. You remember I told you before, it's the same argument they used before they. They bombed every single hospital in. In Gaza. It's not us, it's Hamas. They bombed every single school in Gaza. It's not us in Hamas. They killed 60,000 people. It's Hamas fault. It's. You see the pattern? You see the pattern? You know that the most viral video I did with Piers Morgan is when I said, like, Israel is a narcissistic psychopath, like, boyfriend who fucks you over and makes you think their fault. You know why this, like, resonated with so many people? It's just because people know this is the narcissistic, psychopathic behavior. Right? So they are like a bunch of liars, a bunch of killers, a bunch of murderers. And it is. And then it is. It's easier for them to just like get out of it and say, like, it is fucking Hamas.

[Steiny]

So what, what is like the ideal situation in that area?

[Bassam Yousef]

The ideal situation? That Israel should not be coming in and occupying a country that's not theirs. And I know that you went there and you were raised all your life saying that this is our country, our place. You understand that Israel started by refugees from Europe, people who escaped the Nazis. This was a European problem. Most of those people were in Ukraine and Russia and Poland and Germany. And then they went through incredible hardship. Why would they come to the Middle east and take a land that belonged to other people? That is the core of the problem. The core of the problem is not just starvation or the daily killing. It is people coming in and trying to take a land from other people. And of course, you grew up as a Jewish person telling you this is like a. This was an empty land. And we just came in, there was no one there. There were already 2 million Arabs living there before Israel have even been conceived. And in one night, 700,000 people were displaced overnight in 15th of May 1948, when they declared the state of Israel. You understand the amount your grandparents are like Holocaust survivors. They wouldn't like another holocaust to be happening in their name. And they wouldn't. If you have a problem with Germany, go fucking take a piece of land from Germany, man. You understand, like where my people are coming from? Like, we were just sitting here and you have like a problem in Europe and then you were pushed on us and said, like, this is our land now get the fuck out. You understand how sick this is? You know how unfair this is? You understand? So we can discuss about like what is happening now, the situation. You need to go again, the bigger picture and understand why this happened, right? Those people who are, who are Netanyahu sat in front of you and saying, like, Hamas is terrorists. They are the one who actually started terrorism in the Middle East. They're one who started bombing hotels, bombing people. The amount, like, if you just go in and write the terror and I invite the Internet to actually fact check this, the terrorism of the Zionist militias in Palestine, right? The dozens of people that they have been killing, you know, the, all of the stuff that you have been. They have like, you know, killing pregnant women, decapitated people. This is the exact same thing that they did in massacres like Darius scene there in Sabra and Shatila. They have Been. You know, there's a very famous line saying, like, every accusation is a confession. Every time. They blame Hamas for using human shield. They are the one who's been using human shield. Right. They. They're actually. In 2005, the Israeli Supreme Court made a verdict saying, you need to stop using human shield because they were using it so much. There's like, a recorded 1200 incidences of them using human shield between 2001 and 2005. That is crazy, man. Right, so you are. Every time you see them accusing Palestinians of doing it, they have done it many times before, even more brutal.

[Steiny]

Yeah. One thing I see on the Internet now, too, is a lot of Americans are questioning, like, is, is Israel our closest ally? Why are they our closest ally? Why are we sending so much money to Israel? I think, I mean, I see it. I mean, even Trump now, recently, I think. I think it was yesterday or two days ago. It seems like he's not even agreeing with Netanyahu now. I saw Canada just recognized Palestine as a state.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, but. But at the same time, Trump said, like. Well, I think, like, Canada couldn't. Couldn't be our partner anymore, which is crazy. You are basically sacrificing Canada, which is actually your closest ally, because of Israel.

[Steiny]

Well, what I was going to ask is why. Why does America consider Israel its closest allies?

[Bassam Yousef]

No, America doesn't consider Israel the closest. The American politicians.

[Steiny]

Right. So why are the American politicians so loyal to Israel?

[Bassam Yousef]

Well, follow the money, right? 80% of Congress are openly financed by AIPAC, which is the Israeli lobby. So when you finance 80% of your Congress, your representative, suddenly a foreign country is more important than your own country. Right. I think you were asked many times, tiny, are you American first or are you Israel first? And you said, no, I'm American first. You wouldn't like to have your tax money going to a country being and using that to kill children while your fellow Americans in places like Texas and North Carolina suffering from floods and not getting the aid they get. There is. I think there is the graph with the $17 billion only, by the way, so far, since the beginning of the conflict. Not the conflict, the slaughter. Since October 2023, America sent Israel more than $30 billion, $17.9 billion in 2024 alone. $17 billion. That's crazy. You know how many schools that you can build with that? You know how many teachers that you can pay? You know how many houses that you can give for the homeless? Why is your money going to a foreign country and using this to inflict the Most evil genocide on innocent people. Right, right.

[Steiny]

So what's the. Why do you think that American politicians are.

[Bassam Yousef]

No, I'm just told you, because of the money. Like because they're being. AIPAC is openly bragging about financing 80% of Congress with $100 million for this.

[Steiny]

Do they openly brag about that?

[Bassam Yousef]

Oh yeah, yeah. I invite everybody to go into the AIPAC Twitter and see them bragging about it. It was like 98% of the people that we promote, they win their elections. And this is the graph and I was telling you about. The US sent $17.9 billion in only 2024. This is how much you can do with that amount of money. And instead it is going to buy weapons. It's going to settlers in the West Bank, American Jews, maybe Jews from other places who live there with, with like very low, low rent housing. They have better education, better health care than any American here, which is crazy. Why is my money going there? I know, Steiny, I saw you on many of the podcasts saying like it is very difficult for an, for me as a Jewish American living there. And I understand it's difficult, but it was misunderstood because people said this is so tone deaf, this is so self centered. It's not about you guys because. But, but I kind of understood it in a. You know, I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe it is difficult because there's a whole genocidal state right now using your identity and using your religion in order to commit unspeakable crimes. Right. But also you need to understand what does it mean to be a Palestinian American right now? You understand how difficult it is to a Palestinian American sitting here seeing his family slaughtered and starved and that is being done by their own tax money. Can you imagine, can you imagine like you sending money to your family to for example, build a bakery and then you see that bakery destroyed on phone and then TurboTax takes your money and finance the bomb that fucking bombed that bakery. You understand the kind of mind fuck that those people are living in. Like yes, anti Semitism is a real thing, but you understand that it is that you haven't seen three Jewish people being shot because they spoke Hebrew, right? I have three Palestinian friends, they were in brown universe, they were speaking Arabic and they were shot. And one of them cannot walk for the rest of his life. Right? There was like a Palestinian kid, 6 years old who was stabbed 26 times right after October 7th because of the kind of fear that was launched against Muslim Americans. Right? There was a Palestinian there was like an Indian Muslim kid that was almost drowned in Texas by a Jewish woman. Her name is Elizabeth Wolf. As a hate crime, if these. If the roles were reversed, if those kids were Jewish, you wouldn't hear the end of it. But I'm telling you this, and I can see in your eyes, it's the first time you ever hear about this. This is crazy. This is manufactured. So part of me is angry at you guys for not knowing, but part of me, I have empathy for you, because this is the kind of a bubble that was created intentionally by the media to tell you that all the perpetrators, the people on the other side, are the terrorists. They are the evil people, and Israel is our greatest ally. This is prime brainwashing. This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. Between two factor authentication, strong passwords, and a VPN, you try to be in control of how your info is protected.

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[Steiny]

Tipping culture is out of control.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yesterday, I tipped someone just for handing me a napkin. So. So when hotels.com gives me up to 20% off for being a member, I finally get tipped. And you know what? It feels good. Hotels.com, members save up to 20% off at hundreds of thousands of hotels. So you understand what I mean? So when you say, like, it's difficult to be Jewish. Yes, I understand, but it is kind of like you are.

[Steiny]

I think it's the. I can't speak for Steini, but I have other Jewish friends. And what they all say to me is, what Israel's doing right now makes it tougher to be prideful of, you know, being Jewish.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, but the biggest thing is I.

[Steiny]

Don'T want to speak.

[Bassam Yousef]

No, no, no.

[Steiny]

But.

[Bassam Yousef]

But you understand. But you see, the mistake here is, like, now you're linking being Jewish to being pro Israel. It's like me linking being Muslim to being pro isis. It's like being proud to be German, to be a Nazi, because that is what Israel is, right? And it is. They. This is a regime, a state, a genocidal state that hijacked your identity as Jewish and then started to tell everybody. If you start to question Israel, you're being anti Semitic. You know, what does that tell you? That being a good Semitic means that you have to approve for starving kids, killing babies, raping prisoners in prison, genociding a whole population, kicking them out. That is. What does it mean to be a good Jewish. That is crazy, man. That is actually the most anti Semitic thing ever.

[Steiny]

Do you think, in your opinion, do you think what Israel's doing is making some people anti Semitic, though?

[Bassam Yousef]

Oh, 100%. 100%. Let me give you an example. Have you seen those videos of the IDF soldiers dancing with lingerie and toys of babies? Have you seen that?

[Steiny]

Yeah.

[Bassam Yousef]

Any, any army in the world is run by one thing, discipline. Right? You, if you are in the army and you start posting like that, your commanders are either allowing you to do this or if, if they don't, they will actually fuck. What the fuck are you doing? Right? Because this is the army, right? You're not allowed to just like post shit other than actually the army kind of approving to it. So it is by design. I actually asked a professor in London. It's like, why are they actually doing that on purpose? Like, it's very easy because it is much easier for Israel to be hated and then having them conflate that hate with Jewish people. And when that happens, you see antisemitism give us more money to kill our enemies. You understand? It's like, it's a very, very sick psychology. And the people who are paying for this are Jewish people, right? Because now you are finding yourself inheriting everything that this regime is doing, right? And it is the whole idea about, like being a Jewish person is being as being a pro Israel. It's crazy, right? You know, like a couple of days ago, Trump pushed Colombia to pay $21 million for support the Jewish people for the psychological trauma. And it really, it's crazy because we haven't heard of Jewish people being expelled from Colombia. There are people who lost their immigration status for standing pro Palestine, not pro Israel. There's not a single Israeli, because of his stand from being pro Israel, who lost her job, got deported, being blacklisted with the company, being doxxed. This is what happened on their side. And many of those and the Jewish people who actually got hurt were the people on the pro Palestinian side. There are like Jewish professors who lost their position because they stood with the pro Palestinian side. But they don't talk to you about that. They want you to think it is Jewish people against everybody else. They don't talk to you about the Jewish voices for peace, the people who are, who are who. Their slogan is not in my name. We will not isra allow Israel to use our name in order to continue with the genocide. They are not telling you about the Israeli block that was in all of the university protest or in all of the protests in London and in Paris and in. In. In New York. They want to, again, the same image that they were created in Israel. The way that they use that propaganda in order to blind you of what's happening. They're not telling you about the other side, so they keep putting you in that box. It is Jewish people against everybody else. It is not true.

[Steiny]

Talking about patterns, like you said earlier, some of the documents you sent us that I found interesting was just the history dating back of how long Israel has been influencing America's government.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yes.

[Steiny]

Can you talk to us about some of that?

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah. Well, it's. Well, you have a lobby group called apac, which is. Which should under American lobby, registered as a foreign entity. A foreign lobby group, but it's not. And because of its mention, it is registered as local. It is allowed to raise so much money and act as a local lobbying group. Right. And because of that, they are allowed to openly pay all of these politicians in order to write bills and to pass laws to protect Israel more than they protect the United States. Right. And people will say, this is conspiracy theory. Are you telling us that Israel is controlling America? It's not really a conspiracy theory, because if you think about it, a country is run by a government, and government is run by people. And if you buy enough people, you control the government. Am I right?

[Steiny]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bassam Yousef]

Am I right?

[Steiny]

And if any, if not just Israel, if any government was doing that, it would be a problem. Right?

[Bassam Yousef]

I mean, and I send you even a video of, like, American senators and congressmen having the Israeli flag outside of their room. They are tweeting, I stand with Israel. While there are people suffering from floods in North Carolina. There is, like, a town in Texas that made people sign a pledge to not boycott Israel if they want to have flood aid, which is crazy, right? If I told you, hey, your house was destroyed in the floods, why don't you write a pledge to make sure that you not boycott Egypt? You will get furious. Right? So why is this allowed to happen, man? How. Why is this allowed to happen? Why is every congressman, every media person is just going there and. And putting Israel in such, like, a high place over his own country? If this is not treason, I don't know what it is. Like, do you, like. Do you sign it? You pay taxes, right? You guys like doing well for yourself? Yeah. Would you accept that your taxes to go to support like a foreign country instead of like supporting your own American fellows, like going into the infrastructure of your own country. No. Yeah, yeah. So it is. It. That's why it's like the bigger picture here, that the system is much more broken than you think. It's not about like me going after everything. Lie. That said, it's about giving you the bigger picture of how this. A very curated. A very. Oh, yeah. This is American Israel. Yeah.

[Steiny]

What's this?

[Bassam Yousef]

This is how much money that they have spent and given $51 million in contribution to Israel or Israel. No, no, no, no, this is, this is, this is APAC to. Is to American politicians. This is how much like, this is the kind of.

[Steiny]

This from.

[Bassam Yousef]

This is American public affairs. Yeah.

[Steiny]

Is there, is there any type of other. I mean, when Russia was doing it, everyone thought they were doing it.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah. I remember, like, it was like, oh, the Russian interference. The Russian interference. Like, guys like you, you don't even need it. And people say it's a conspiracy, but like, you don't need a conspiracy. You have people opening. They're basically, we're giving you $100 million. Give me back $30 billion. That's the best. That's better than crypto, man. I mean, I would, I would, I would invest in apac if, if APAC was a bitcoin, I would invest in it. Right.

[Steiny]

What else does Israel do to influence America's government?

[Bassam Yousef]

Well past.

[Steiny]

I mean, this is like some deep shit. It seems kind of honestly scared to talk about it.

[Bassam Yousef]

No. Why talk about it? Don't worry, it's good. Yeah. We're in a unique situation. Yeah, you are. Right. So what do you want to talk about?

[Steiny]

No, just like, I mean, I've seen some of the documents you've talked about.

[Bassam Yousef]

Like, give me an example.

[Steiny]

Blackmailing and.

[Bassam Yousef]

Oh, the blackmailing. It's. Yeah. I mean, like, we've been. A lot of people are talking about the Epstein files right now. Right. What do you think about the Epstein fight?

[Steiny]

I think it's. It's not a good look what's going on right now.

[Bassam Yousef]

Why?

[Steiny]

Just because I think the. I mean, I think the Republicans kind of ran on releasing it. I think. Yeah, a lot of, you know, people feel the same way. I think there's. There's clips of people in the administration saying we need to release it and now it's not getting a released, so it's not. And have the best.

[Bassam Yousef]

Look, have you been reading what. You know Ghislaine Maxwell, the one that was with him and then she was like, the. A kind of like 100% Moose said assets. And then you have Cash Patel, the FBI director, who's saying, like, America needs to wake up and prioritize Israel. And I said, like, why is the FBI, the deputy of the head of the FBI telling you, me, that I as an American need to prioritize Israel? I mean, where. I mean, I mean, you see, you see the pattern. You see how fucked up this is, right? And then before he goes into the FBI, we're going to release the Epstein file. After the. There is no Epstein files. And in the middle, we need to prioritize Israel.

[Steiny]

You can need to release it because it's not a good.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, but, but you understand. But you understand the fact that you have a country in the Middle east not just taking your money, but blackmailing your politicians, including your presidents. You've seen that, that article that I sent you at the time of Israel about the Monica Lewinsky thing and the Bill Clinton thing. I mean, this is crazy. That's why it just like it drives me crazy when I.

[Steiny]

Can you explain that to our audience?

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah. So there's a book.

[Steiny]

The history, to me is fascinating.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah. There's like a book written by an Israeli author and it was actually discussed. It's the headlines in Time of Israel, of how actually Israel have blackmailed Bill Clinton with the Monica Lewinsky tape in order for him to release an Israel spy who actually stole our nuclear secrets and send it to America. Yeah. So it is things like that which drives me crazy when people tell me Israel is our biggest ally. An ally will not do that to you. An ally will not steal your nuclear weapons, will not blackmail your presidents with, with whatever files they have with sexual files in order to release a spy. Will not blackmail your politicians with a. A love island with, With. With. With. With young girls. It's crazy, right? Yeah, it's.

[Steiny]

Why do you think they allowed him to campaign on that so hard then?

[Bassam Yousef]

What do you mean? Like, why.

[Steiny]

Why would they. Because Trump campaigned on that.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah.

[Steiny]

That he was going to release it.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah. Well, yeah, that's. Maybe, maybe he didn't know that. That they had something on him. Maybe they thought that, like, everything was on Clinton. Maybe he didn't know. And then we have Elon Musk saying, well, he's in the files. And like, oh, no, I'm not in the files. And that Pat Bond is like, I have the files on my desk. And then suddenly we don't have the files. It makes you think. Right. And you know, like Trump was asked straight up, would you release the Epstein files as a. Well, it can destroy a lot of people's life. Yeah, well, if they're pedophiles, yes. Fucking destroy their lives. It just like, it's as in like I come from the Middle east and in the Middle east we complain a lot about like how the government is corrupt. And then I come here to the Western world where like everything is transparent and I just like find the same exact attitude of gaslighting and of lying. And I found I was like, oh my God, I'm actually in a country that's being controlled by horrible people. In Israel. Yeah. Here's another like a nice tad bit. Do you know that Israel has one of the highest rates of sex offenders in the entire world? And many of them are Jewish Americans who actually are.

[Steiny]

Is that a fact?

[Bassam Yousef]

Oh yeah, yeah. You can actually like per capita. Yeah, no, you can actually right now you can. There's a CBS report about sex offenders fleeing from Israel. These are people who get indicted in America. They have a conviction and they flee. You can. Do you see it? Oh yes. How Jewish American pedophiles hide from justice in Israel. This is on cbs. You don't have to play it. But like the, the, the, the. I'm, I'm just, I don't want to like kind of like stop the interview. I just want people that, they reference it. So there's like a, there's like tens of people who basically get.

[Steiny]

Yeah, no high end I ads here.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah. To who get like indicted for actually like being pedophiles and they go hide in Israel. And Israel doesn't bring you back because like they're protected by their Israeli passport. So this is the bigger picture that I'm telling you when you are on. This is one of the things that we're taking against you. There's no two sides for it. One side is a genocidal pedophile enabling, blackmailing liars who are starving people to death, who are killing women and children. And that is the side. Right. So that is why it is. It is. It's like it's being very icky right now to even give a platform for them to spread their lies. Because this is the kind of lies that's been actually hurting and, and killing people over two years. So you understand. So if I told you, hey, I'm.

[Steiny]

Not an expert still. But what I've even learned just.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah.

[Steiny]

With the stuff you've sent and what I've learned over the last week.

[Bassam Yousef]

So you understand like when you, I'M all of that. I'm trying to understand, to make you understand the level of hate and anger that was directed towards you, because basically, you're supporting a pedophile. You're supporting a guy that is actually blackmailing people. You're supporting a guy who's a killer. Right. That guy who care. Who seems to be caring about women. There's a huge scandal in Israel that was unraveled in 2012, 2013, that for more than two decades, Israel gave contraceptive shots to Ethiopian Jewish women to prevent them from reproducing. And this was how.

[Steiny]

Like how.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, they pull it up right now. So basically, they were giving contraceptive shots for them in order to prevent them because they were like black Jewish people. And Benjamin Netanyahu was in the Cabinet, and they apologized in 2013. Apologize? How can you apologize for something like that? Right. Okay. Do you have it? Yeah. Ethiopian immigrants, Israel, received contraceptive shots without their consent. And you can find it also in time of Israeli contamination. How would you do that? That they would kind of like, get them into, like, routine gynecological, you know, tests, and then they would just say, yeah, bang. Yeah. And they didn't know what they were, what they were being injected with. And this continued from 1998 to 2013. And when it was found out, it was a huge scandal. And Benjamin Netanyahu was in that. The Cabinet. So I'm just telling you, like, if. If I start.

[Steiny]

You know what it is? I think some of this shit's so dark.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yes.

[Steiny]

That you almost don't want to believe it.

[Bassam Yousef]

Exactly.

[Steiny]

I think that's part of the problem. It's that when you say something like that, my initial reaction is like, this is a conspiracy. I want to believe it. Not conspiracy. I don't want to believe it because it's like. It's scary how fucked up that would be.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah.

[Steiny]

If it was true. You know what I'm saying?

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah. And that's why I didn't want this interview to saying, like, hey, guys, you fucked up. You're terrible people. Look what you did. And I didn't want to just chase every single lie that Netanyahu says because it's exhausting. I just wanted you to understand the level of psychopathy that this regime is. Right. Because today's starvation yesterday is killing tomorrow. It's going to be something else. And it's going to be the same exact loop of discussion. We didn't do it. It's Hamas. It's propaganda. It's like, dude, come on. These are professional question That I actually.

[Steiny]

Just want to understand. It might be a dumb question, but. Like what? Like, in your opinion, what role does Hamas play? Like, do they need to be completely removed from Gaza?

[Bassam Yousef]

Well, again, this is. This is the kind of the. Again, the questions that are used in order to distract you from the biggest thing, right?

[Steiny]

Because I'm just trying to learn.

[Bassam Yousef]

No, no, no, I understand. But again, we are doing bigger picture now, right? You have to understand that this all started by people coming from a different country, going into a different country, killing everybody, taking their land. There will have to be resistance movement. Whether you call these resistance movement terrorists, whether you like. I mean, Nelson Mandela was called a terrorist for 20 years of his life, right? He was called Nelson Mandela, who was like the beacon of liberation. He was classified by the American government as a terrorist, right? And people say terrorists because they don't want to get into trouble, because they are classified by the FBI and by the CIA as terrorist groups. So people don't want to get into trouble. And then suddenly the conversation, oh, so you mean Hamas is not terrorist, so you support what they're doing. So you see, I'm just like, giving you the bigger picture, how these questions are used. And then now Hamas is not even an issue anymore. You went in and you destroyed a whole territory, displacing 2 million people, destroying every hospital, every school, every house. And now people are saying, Hamas. If there was no occupation, there will be no Hamas. There will be no resistance. Right. And I find it very funny that Netanyahu have openly admitted that he has emboldened Hamas in order to cause factions inside the. The Palestinian movement so they will never have a Palestinian state. And you can Google that as I talk if you want.

[Steiny]

Purposely causing chaos.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, yeah. You know, like how you kind of like, you know, finance people and other people in order to have, like, an infighting. It's a very, very common technique, you know, like. Like divide and conquer, you know, so. And this is why I don't want people to get reduced to asking smaller.

[Steiny]

Questions when I just know it's a question everyone asks.

[Bassam Yousef]

No, no, no, of course, but. But the bigger question is that you have a genocidal regime using your money to continue with the killing. Using your money in order to buy the media to make you continue being ignorant and not knowing what's going on. Yes.

[Steiny]

Explain this to us more.

[Bassam Yousef]

So, so this is basically for years, Netanyahu. This is from the time.

[Steiny]

What is. What does it mean by. It says Netanyahu propped up Hamas, so.

[Bassam Yousef]

Basically they would facilitate them Having the stream of money in order to make them stronger and to kill any other liberal opposition or any other, any kind of opposition inside. To have like a bit, a different representation of the Palestinian people. It's very easy to have your enemy, like, and paint them as an Islamic terrorist. So you can. Instead of trying to have a critical thinking of what's happening, it's like, oh, these are zombies. These are. You know, when you watch a movie of zombies, you don't, you don't want to understand about their motives. These are zombies. These are cannibals. These are like terrorists. So you don't spend time in trying to understand the conflict and you just say like, okay, this is just like up, right? So for example, when you were in interview and you were talking about New York and she's like, oh, mom, Danny, that guy is like anti Semitic. Right? Where does this come from?

[Steiny]

Just stuff I see on X.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yes, Stuff you see on X. But you don't question why is he anti Semitic. Right. What did he say? And that's actually. That's the one video that I want to play, guys. Is it the people running for the position of mayor in New York, right? You are a New Yorker, right? You're from New York? No. Where are you from? Where are you from? Colorado. Colorado. Okay, so let's say you are in New York, right? Okay. You're from Colorado. You want the people, the people running for the governor of, of, of the. The governor of Colorado or the mayor of Denver to represent your interest, right? It would be very weird if people started saying, I'm going to travel to a foreign country as my duties as mayor. Right? It doesn't make any sense. Right, Right. So can you play this video, guys?

[Steiny]

I wanted to actually say something about that because I think the biggest, one of the biggest issues right now is like even that I'm like that I made a mistake on. Is you see one thing posted and no one does a deeper dive. They just believe the first thing they see.

[Bassam Yousef]

Absolutely. And it. And it. And it's. It's. It's flooding the Internet. It is like what you. When you say an X, your timeline is very, very, very curated. Because like basically if you buy enough, if you have. If you spend enough money. That's what I'm telling you about Hasbro, right? Your timeline is filled with the same exact stories about Mamdani being anti Semitic, about Muslims are terrorists, about its Hamas. So. Because it is. Yeah. Okay, Play this, please. That's, that's. That's what. That's so this is. This is just to give it. To give people context before you play it. This is during the primary election for the mayor of New York. So basically you have a pundit saying like it is, how come a mayor of New York doesn't travel to Israel? And then the other candidates talking about how they feel about Israel. Can you play it, please?

[Steiny]

Who travels to Israel?

[Bassam Yousef]

These are all the candidates of the mayor of New York. Candidates. Yes. Go ahead. Any mayor that can't say they will go to Israel someday as mayor should not be mayor. Where would you go first? The Holy Land? Go to Israel. Fourth trip to Israel. First trip to Israel.

[Steiny]

Mr. Mamdani?

[Bassam Yousef]

I would stay in New York City.

[Steiny]

My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that.

[Bassam Yousef]

It is just so. It is so offensive. If you're wondering what kind of world.

[Steiny]

Considers putting America first as offensive.

[Bassam Yousef]

So you see as an American, as a new American, because you guys were born here. I've been only an American for a few years, and I come to this, I have to ask myself, why is the mayor of a city in America have to visit a foreign country? And why is it frowned upon? It is offensive. If you say, I'm going to stay in the city that I was voted for as mayor to serve its people, you understand the. The kind of like, brainwashing.

[Steiny]

That clip's crazy.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Steiny]

I mean, I don't know what else he stands for. I heard he's a socialist.

[Bassam Yousef]

What? What? Okay, we can discuss about how is a socialist. That's a different discussion. Yeah. And you can. And you can. And you can say, I'm not gonna vote for Mamdani because of his economic view. That is quite fair. But to make it a point that he has to visit a foreign country, and if he doesn't, that is enough for disqualifying even from the discussion that.

[Steiny]

Is, why would a mayor need to visit a foreign country?

[Bassam Yousef]

Thank you. And why is it like, if you.

[Steiny]

Say federal, that's different.

[Bassam Yousef]

But if you're staying to serve your people that voted for you, why. Why are you being penalized? And it's offensive not to visit Israel. Why?

[Steiny]

New York's got enough problems.

[Bassam Yousef]

It's. It's. It's crazy, man. It's crazy. I think, like, he is trying to serve his people, but he's being called anti Semitic because he doesn't want to go to a foreign country. It's crazy, right?

[Steiny]

There's got to be other reasons they're saying he's anti Semitic.

[Bassam Yousef]

I mean, like, Correct.

[Steiny]

Basim or not?

[Bassam Yousef]

What?

[Steiny]

Is there other reasons they say he's anti Semitic? It can't just be.

[Bassam Yousef]

I mean, you tell me.

[Steiny]

I don't know.

[Bassam Yousef]

I don't know either. I have. I haven't, I haven't. Because it is very. The easiest thing is anti Semitic. He is terrorist. He hate the Jews. And that's a conversation stopper, you know? You know when you, you guys all about free speech, right? Imagine every time you try to tell a joke, that's racist. All right? Oh, my God, that's. That's so offensive. It's like, why? What did I say? And nobody will explain to you why is it racist? And nobody would explain to you why it's stupid. It's just like. And it's a way to intimidate people. If you start calling people anti Semitic, it's just like, like, anti Semitism is dangerous, but it's not the only ism that matters. Right? You cannot just like, stop people's conversations like, that's anti Semitic. Where is that is anti Semitic. And you have to understand, like, that's not. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's not. When you have like, oh, he's a socialist, then let's talk about that. What do you mean he's a socialist? What is it? And when he say, like, he's going to do like affordable prices in supermarket, why is that socialism?

[Steiny]

I'd have to look into it more.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yes, exactly. So tell them you do. But if, if that would stop you from voting for him because he just say, I'm going to serve my people and stay for the country, for the city that voted for me. That is remarkable. That is not anticipated.

[Steiny]

It's pretty basic. Yeah, yeah.

[Bassam Yousef]

It's not any say what you say.

[Steiny]

I mean, in Israel they get health care and housing too, to settle in the West Bank.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yes. So if you're complaining about socialism. Yeah. So you understand, like, if you say like socialism. So people basic almost stuff for like, almost for nothing health care and housing and education in Israel. And it's doing that with our money. That is not even socialism. That is like grand theft. You know, like, why is my money going there? To support the lifestyle of people staying in illegal settlements built on Palestinian land. That is fucking crazy, man. Right. Have you heard about something called Friends for the idf?

[Steiny]

Friends.

[Bassam Yousef]

Friends of the idf. So Friends of the IDF is a. Is a very interesting piece of information. It is. One of their biggest leaders is Haim Saban, who is like a Jewish American who was in Egypt, by the way. He immigrated from Alexandria and he settled in the United States. That guy is so huge in the Hollywood business. That guy owns the franchise for Power Rangers, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. He produced so many movies for Arnold Schwarzenegger and Silverstone. That guy is big, you know that? Oh yeah.

[Steiny]

If you own Mutant Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers.

[Bassam Yousef]

No, he's huge, man. Do you know that the, the, the big museum for the Oscars in Fairfax, like that's called the Saban Building, right? That's how big this guy is. This guy is famously known for a very famous thing. He said, I'm a one issue guy and my issue is Israel, not America, Israel. Right? Now he, every single year he throws a gala dinner for something called Friends for the idf. And like celebrities like Silversi, Stallone and Anderson and Gerard Butler come there, Ashton Kutcher and they come there and they raise somewhere between 70 and $100 million per night, tax exempt. So this is money that should have gone to charity in the United States, but it goes to a quote unquote charity to help veterans of the IDF having like better health care, having better education, having like better retirement plan. I mean, what the fuck? I mean like you are actually doing tax write off for, for celebrities who lived and got their money inside America to be sent to support the IDF and to support illegal settlements. It is fucking crazy, man. Right? And you know what's so crazy? Like you have people like Sylvester Stallone and, and Arnold Schwarzenegger who made their whole fame be doing movies, being like saving America, supporting American soldiers, and yet they don't spend a penny on American soldiers, but they send it to a soldiers of a foreign country and army that is now known to kill people on camera. It's crazy, man. It's like you feel duped. You feel that like where's my money is going, right?

[Steiny]

Well, a lot of Americans are, I see on the Internet now are, you know, really turning on Israel. I think people are really fed up with it. I mean, they don't like how we're sending money to Ukraine and they don't like how we're sending money to Israel. It's kind of the same thing, right? Like, why are we sending our tax money to other countries?

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, but first of all, you're sending far more money than Israel. And second of all, like, at least like, I don't like actually sending money to Ukraine too, but I just like, all right, you're sending it to Ukraine because they're standing against like a nuclear power like Russia. But you are sending money to Israel to kill civilians. You know, there's the equivalent of six Hiroshima bombs that were actually dropped in Gaza since the beginning of war. They call in the amount of explosive power. You finance that without you having any say in it. If this is not theft, I don't know what it is. So again, I'm trying to explain to you the anger that was directed against you far exceeds the fact that you just platformed Netanyahu. You're basically siding with everything that this country stands for. And many influencers like you, who are having a huge platform are being used every day with these fear trips to Israel in order to. To put makeup on a fucking genocidal regime. And, and in the same time, you like getting the most racist tropes for Palestinians inside. I mean, that video, guys, that you did, that's that it has 7.5 million views on YouTube. Even if October 7 didn't happen, you unknowingly were used as a part to launder their propaganda and give people and just like go into their heads and just like plant these horrible images about Palestinians. So people's like, oh, there's like a bunch of people staying in tents. It's okay to kill them. So you understand.

[Steiny]

No, I'm just trying to digest it.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah.

[Steiny]

To be honest.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, well, there's a lot to digest. Yeah. So it's. So.

[Steiny]

This thing like what, like back to the starvation of the kids, right?

[Bassam Yousef]

Why, why are more.

[Steiny]

Why aren't more other countries getting involved and trying to do air?

[Bassam Yousef]

Well, let's talk about like, but no, first of all, you shouldn't be air dropping.

[Steiny]

You're right, but I'm saying like, yeah.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, but like, okay, let's talk about other countries who try to involve. Okay, any country like, who would try to do it is. It's very easy. Easy to. Is like they're terrorists, they're supporting Hamas and they bomb the out of us. Just Egypt try to force in. It's not to try to force because nothing goes in without Israel approval. Because let's say, for example, Egypt comes, it's like, okay, we're going to put our stuff in. Israel was going to bomb the convoy like they did many times, like Hamas. Because you will have many people say, oh, it's Hamas is theirs. Once it is, you can do whatever you want. Right. And the fact that like other countries are trying and cannot do anything, it just tells you how much of a fucking bully this country is. They have already bombed Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Yemen. They have bombed the west bank where there's supposedly not Hamas. They have killed like Thousands of people there and have already, like, have put 15,000 people in jail in the West Bank. Nobody's talking about the West Bank. Just two days ago, they. A settler went in. A settler went in and killed a guy who was featured in an Oscar winning documentary. And then the IDF came and they intimidated the rest of that guy family. You understand? This is happening on daily basis. Imagine being a Palestinian waking up, having, like, a settler who came from New York and just taking your house, kicking your people out. And if you stand against them, you kill them. You want, like, other countries to get involved? Who other countries get involved? America, the strongest country in the world, is being cucked by being there. They're being dragged by the bulls. They can't do anything because their politicians are being openly bribed by that regime. Right? This is the strongest fucking country in the world, and they cannot do anything. And every time on that, you have a slap on, oh, Trump, look, Israel shouldn't do this. And they do it every. You know how many times Biden, quote, unquote, like, stopped their arms, like, shipment, and then they continued. This is all performative, man. This is all performative. All of these, like, bullshit statements from politicians that doesn't do anything while the killing is happening. You understand? So this is where your actions, like, why is like, other countries are not involved. They tried to get involved, and guess what they were called anti Semitic. They were called Hamas. They had, like, UN workers being killed. Because they will tell you it's honor. It is Hamas. It's just like. It's so. It's so fucked up. Right?

[Steiny]

It's very up. Right, but what. What I'm trying to understand and what, in your opinion, how do we solve this? How do we have peace? Like, everyone has peace, but how do we.

[Bassam Yousef]

Then how do you get peace? You need to get back to the root of the problem. This is a genocidal country who's like, basically, who's holding your. Politicians who have the power with the balls, by the balls. Well, you need to vote those fucking people out. Right? That's the. And you don't have an immediate thing.

[Steiny]

But you have, like, you're saying American politicians.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, yeah. Do you need to vote them out? Because these. Why would you vote?

[Steiny]

Every. Every American politician has been loyal to Israel, though.

[Bassam Yousef]

80% of. Of.

[Steiny]

To the Israeli government.

[Bassam Yousef]

Not Zohra. Yeah, yeah. Zoran is not. He's one of the few. Imam Danny. Yeah. Like, he's the. He's the few. I mean, this is the problem. If you actually stand against the tide and you say like, I'm not going to be loyal to a foreign country being called anti Semitic. It's crazy, right? It's like, how do you feel as AN AMERICAN When 80% of your representatives, all of your mayors, most of your governors are loyal to a foreign country? In any other scenario, you will call that treason. Right? So you see, and I'm sorry that I don't have an immediate, like, answer for how to fix this. Because, because this is happening because other things has been happening for years. If you have the, the strongest presence in the world being blackmailed by fucking pedophile file. This is crazy, man. This is crazy. Right? Yeah. So I, I, I, so I understand like the, the hate that you got as kids. I'm sorry, you're not kids. As young men. Yeah, like, like, at least you are like, but you are not an American politician who have been paid to be a traitor. Your biggest mistake, that you were not prepared, that you were not informed and you didn't do enough effort in order to inform yourself. That's a big mistake. But I, honestly, this dwarfs next to the fucking daily treason that we see with American politicians that allows this to happen, that goes into the media and launder Israeli crimes. This dwarfs next to those fucking media people who are just mouthpieces of propaganda, like Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, Megan Kelly, all of those fuckers, right? These are like, these are like 100% propaganda pieces for a foreign country. They are, you have been betrayed by your politicians, by your media, by many of your influencers because they are being fucking paid. Right? So as much of a stupid stuff that you have done for me in my book, you guys, like, at least you are now seeing what you're happening and you're trying to make sense out of it and you're trying to educate yourself. And I hope that after this that you would go, I don't want you to say like, oh, we're going to go back and doing stupid shit, guys. You need to be more involved, at least educated. Right?

[Steiny]

Yeah.

[Bassam Yousef]

Right. And I think maybe other influencers will see this as like, okay, the next time I get this fucking invitation from Israel. No, I'm, I know what I'm stepping into because it's not just like an innocent trip. It is not just innocent propaganda.

[Steiny]

Nothing is free, right?

[Bassam Yousef]

What? Nothing is free, habibi. Nothing is free. Right? So it is, it is, it is. So I, and, and I, and again, I'm, I'm, I'm not coming here. I'm not. I told you before, guys, and I Know, I just let be straight, like those guys were fucking scared shitless when I told them I'd do it at life. I gained nothing from destroying you. I gain nothing from dunking on you. Right. I would actually rather deal with you as my younger brothers to understand what has been happening in front of your eyes all of that time. And maybe in the future you will make something out of it. Whether you, you, you, you learn or not is going to be up to you from now on.

[Steiny]

Shit's dark.

[Bassam Yousef]

That's just dark, man.

[Steiny]

Do you ever get scared talking about this stuff?

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, well, I have got like, I've got canceled. I have many of my shows being canceled.

[Steiny]

We need 24 hour security after this one.

[Bassam Yousef]

No, no, no good. It's just. No. Which is crazy. Also you are, you are American, you're Canadian, and you're living in the west with the free world, the freest country in the world. And you have to worry about speaking about a foreign country. It's, it's, it's crazy, man. It's, it's, it's dark. And listen, I need to address this because, like, you know, I feel for you, Steiny. Right. And I think we should like, you know, I want you to actually talk and talk about how difficult it is for you being like, you know, because I'm sure there's like friends from your. You've already been hated by one side, but there are people like from your friends, your immediate community who are actually like, or already angry. You said many times there's nothing for me to gain from this. You said this many times. I want you to give you the space to. In order to just like talk about this. Yeah.

[Steiny]

I just think of the lack of education and stepping into something so serious was probably a mistake. Yeah, it was. I mean, even since the Netanyahu interview, like, just the amount of stuff I've tried to consume, like, it really drains. It's really draining. And the issue that I'm having too is like, when you do your research, everything, it's just like so opposite.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah.

[Steiny]

Consuming from both sides. And it's just like, what, what's, what's. Which one do I believe?

[Bassam Yousef]

Exactly.

[Steiny]

So I think that's a problem. I don't think there's, I mean, to, to step in there with Netanyahu, it wouldn't have been even something that we could have prepared for in a week. I think in our position, like, that's.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah.

[Steiny]

You got to be super qualified to do that. And I understand that.

[Bassam Yousef]

But, but, but also, you see what what you have said is very important that the, the amount of information, that the conflicting information. So instead of going, that's why I chose this, I. Instead of telling you this is wrong because. And this is wrong because there's evidence. Instead of providing evidences. How do you deal with narcissistic, psychopathic behavior? You block them. You know that everything that comes out of their mouth is a fucking lie. I just showed you that they have bribed our politicians. They are, they harbor pedophiles, they have killed American soldiers. They have done so much bad, they have lied so many times. So there is no reason for you to believe anything that comes out of their mind. Right.

[Steiny]

Also, we're going to be providing a.

[Bassam Yousef]

List of people that are legitimate reporters that you can follow after the live is over. Okay, let me say this in the mic. So in order to provide this, and I think this is something that you can actually help in, there's going to be a button with click for people having sources.

[Steiny]

Are we going to have it in the description?

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, yeah. Including Jewish historians, Israeli historians. So people don't say they're biased, who talk actually about the conflict and how. What Israel have done to those people from a Jewish point of view who were fair. Right. So you wouldn't say like, oh, just like the Arabs like doing. It's not Hamas propaganda. Right. And you know, it is, it is. There's things that I heard today, and you're saying it because you've been hearing it all your life, like, America is our biggest ally. You know, the biggest naval crisis. One of the biggest naval crisis outside of the Second World War was the USS Liberty. It's like a US vessel that has 34 Marines killed and they were killed by an airstrike for Israel. 1967. Right.

[Steiny]

By Israel.

[Bassam Yousef]

Israel. Yes. You can, you can, you can, you can Google USS Liberty. There they are. The fact that they are, they have the kind of hurt and a kind of damage that have done to American finances, American politics. That doesn't come from someone who you call yourself an ally. So the next time when you tell about Israel is our biggest ally, you need to figure out why they're allies. Nothing that they do, not an ally, not a friend would do that to us. Right. There is, there's, there's so many. It's just like, and, and as you said, there's so much dark and that at a certain point it's like, oh, you're just obsessed with Israel. Well, I am as obsessed with, is with Israel as Netanyahu is obsessed With Hamas. Because every time it's like. And it's like I. Now I remember something. It's like these people chant, death to America, Death to Israel. Just right now they're like, they have their football fans going around in Europe calling to death to Arabs and Arabs and Gaza. Who.

[Steiny]

What football team?

[Bassam Yousef]

Like the. The. The. In. Was it in Romania? Yeah, it's an Israeli football team in Romania. Yeah. The fans going out in the streets. Fuck Arabs. They have the chance of Arabs, fuck Gaza, fuck Palestinians. Like, kill your. It's just like these are like a genocidal sick people, man. And this is. This. It's. And they need to be penalized and need to. There's consequences of that shit. Anyways, I took too long and I promised you that I'm not going to go long. And I think there is enough information. It's like an hour, 25 minutes.

[Steiny]

I mean, I think this was very informative.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, an hour ten. Hour ten. You see? Thank you.

[Steiny]

You've been very cool during this entire process.

[Bassam Yousef]

So I really appreciate you. Yeah, you were. I said, like, I promise I'm not going to go over time. And I think there's a lot of there. I. I think there's a lot. There's a lot. And I learned a lot this week.

[Steiny]

But even just sitting here now, I learned a lot, a lot more. And there's a lot more to look into. And yeah, we have a big platform. I think sometimes we don't realize how big it is.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah. And the kind of. Of influence that you have, we just.

[Steiny]

Feel like such normal guys. Like, I don't know. So sometimes we just take it for granted.

[Bassam Yousef]

I think normal guys. Normal guys will not have like a paid trip to Israel.

[Steiny]

I know, I know.

[Bassam Yousef]

I'm just saying it is very curated. You have to understand now, every time you hear it, you hear something coming out of their mouth. You need to remember, these are psychopathic liars. These are murderers. These are people who have made genocide into a fucking industry and they're using your money to do so.

[Steiny]

All right, well, we appreciate you coming on. It was very informative and we appreciate you. I feel like we're going to be.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, we're going to work out once. Once I recover from my surgery. We're going to work out.

[Steiny]

When you recover from the surgery.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, if you're here next week, I might come back.

[Steiny]

When I started looking into, I told them, I started searching you up, and then all I see is, Jack, show Jack.

[Bassam Yousef]

This T shirt I'm wearing. This is the T Shirt for something called the Gaza Sunbirds. Gaza Sunbirds. These are like a group of cyclists in Gaza. All of them are amputees because they were basically bombed by Israel. And they. This is one of the like the stuff that you. That's like, it shouldn't be normal anywhere, but it is normal in Gaza. And I was in London, I was supporting them with this movie called like Doctors Under Attack, which is a documentary done by the BBC. And then the BBC bailed out because they didn't want to like, because it was so fucking dark. It shows how Israel is systematically killing doctors and it's like you have more three times the chance of being killed if Israel know that you're a doctor. They killed 30, they destroyed 36 hospitals in all of Gaza. They, they tortured them, they raped them, they raped male doctors in custody. It is again, it's very dark. And I sent you the documentary so you can watch it and to understand what is the other side means, right, Those, the amputees and the, and the Gaza Sunbirds, they were deliberately sniped by snipers with shots around their knees, if you like. In this area. It's like a guaranteed either a gangrene or an amputation. So they do it on purpose. And now we have like a group of people who are just amputees on bicycles. This is how bad it is. This is. That's why I'm kind of like wearing this because a normal activity like cycling is not normal. In, in Gaza there's like, I think they only, they have the only big league where all of the soccer players are amputees. Again, they are victims of the Israel brutal killing every single day. They have people shooting little kids in their genitals. They have people that they are being taken from the streets, tortured, raped, killed. It is crazy, man. And just like. And I'm telling you that's why that video about the trip of Israel, this is like you going to Nazi Germany in 1938, a year after the war. It. Before the war. It is, it is laundry. It's propaganda and you've been used very badly. And then they don't care about you. They're now letting you like NH came in and then they're letting you save the crowd, face the crowd. It's fucking, it's faking brutal. And that's why I didn't want this to be another beating. I just wanted this to be a cautionary tale for people being used on the Internet by Israel. That is actually the bigger picture here.

[Steiny]

No, I appreciate just all our conversations before this, too, you've been nothing but a gentleman and a good guy.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah. You see, the Israeli crowd is effective, protesting for the right to rape. They were so mad that people telling them, you should not rape prisoners in custody. This is crazy. This is how sick those people are. I know. There's a lot to. There's a lot to digest, a lot to do it and. Yeah.

[Steiny]

Anyways, I think I learned a lot. I think it was very educational, informative, and I think it was a good one for our first live podcast.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, man.

[Steiny]

I think. I don't know.

[Bassam Yousef]

Can we track people, like, watching and whatever? Oh, no, that's a good 17,000 for watching live. Okay, so I think when you put it on tag. Yeah, I think when you put it on the. On YouTube afterwards. What? Oh, that's good. Good. So I think it's good. Yeah, yeah, Wonderful.

[Steiny]

I haven't looked at the chat, but I felt like it was a good combo. But I guess.

[Bassam Yousef]

Well, you're gonna have a lot of hate anyways, dude. Okay, tell me, Tell me. Tell me. What? Tell them what you told me. Like, what do you want to do after? It's like, dude, I just want to get out. I don't want to have anything to do with this anymore. I feel for you, man. You haven't slept for days.

[Steiny]

To step into.

[Bassam Yousef]

What?

[Steiny]

Yeah, it's really hard to get into this.

[Bassam Yousef]

Yeah, yeah. You haven't slept for days, right? No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. It. You don't need to rub it in its face, but, like, I understand about a fourth mic. Yeah, yeah, but, like, it. It is. I understand that, like, all your. Of your life, you've been told something. I mean, you were telling me something that. I found it very weird. It's like, thank you being very nice sitting with me when I'm Jewish. It's like, dude, you've been told all your life that I. You. You're being hated because you're a Jew. That is. That is. That is terrible.

[Steiny]

But also just the response.

[Bassam Yousef]

No, no. Yeah, it's. It. That. It has nothing to do with you being Jewish. Right. It is like you have been brainwashed for so many years to make you not see any way forward other than siding with those people again. Those people. And like many Jewish people would tell you, they've been using your identity, using your religion, to advance a very genocidal evil policy. So, again, you will take your time to learn from this, and I hope this has been a learning experience for everybody watching. Oh, God, guys. Did you guys learn something new today. You're happy. Good.

[Steiny]

I learned a lot about everything.

[Bassam Yousef]

Good. And. And we will send the. We will put the file and the sources and everything. And I hope you guys get some sleep after this.

[Steiny]

Yeah, we will.

[Bassam Yousef]

Thank you.

[Steiny]

Thank you, Bassam. We appreciate you guys.

[Bassam Yousef]

Thank you. Thanks. Thank you, guys. Sam.