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Kyle Forgeard
This is fucking nuts.
Benjamin Netanyahu
This is so crazy. We are so not qualified to do this. That's what's interesting about this. We're just not, we just should not be doing this.
Kyle Forgeard
Well, we're too far too gone.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Here we have the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu. He's about to walk into the podcast right now. This is probably one of the most, if not the most controversial podcast we for sure the most have ever done.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah, 100%.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Maybe not the most controversial we'll ever do.
Kyle Forgeard
Maybe not, but maybe.
Benjamin Netanyahu
I mean this issue is just like. And by the way, I want to say too, I'm not claiming to be an expert on this issue or anything like that. I've kind of just probably like a lot of you guys that, you know, you read stuff online and I feel like on the Internet now too. It's like you don't even know what's real anymore. Like you read shit and it's like, you see a headline, it's like, is this true? Is this not true? So I see so much stuff about, you know, what's going on in Israel and, you know, Iran and Palestine, and to be honest, I just really don't know what is going on there. So it's going to be interesting to sit down with, with Prime Minister Netanyahu and kind of just ask him some questions about what we read online and get educated. Probably going to be a lot of. Lot of hate in the comments and stuff like that, in my opinion. I mean, dude, we're journalists, right?
Bob Menery
We're tech.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah. I mean, we're technically journalists.
Kyle Forgeard
How can you pass up this opportunity? At the end of the day.
Benjamin Netanyahu
No. And plus, at the end of the day, it's like we get the opportunity to sit down with one of the most powerful people in the world. A world leader.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah.
Benjamin Netanyahu
And we get to ask him some stuff. And we're gonna ask him what we want to ask him, too. So if you guys, you know, want to hear shit, whatever questions you guys want to hear, there's probably a ton of other interviews of him on CNN or like, you know, typical news stuff. We're going to ask them what we want to ask them. So to me, this is crazy, like, how far we've come and we get to sit down with world leaders. Yeah, it's fucking insane.
Kyle Forgeard
So, I mean, for any backlash, this is just an opportunity. Again, you can't really pass up. I don't see it, like, there's no one else doing this.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah, I don't give a shit. I'll sit down with any world leader in the world.
Kyle Forgeard
I agree.
Benjamin Netanyahu
I mean, my, my dream guess is Kim Jong Un. Both of us, if you're watching this.
Kyle Forgeard
This is kind of like to come.
Benjamin Netanyahu
To North Korea and interview.
Kyle Forgeard
All I can think about is the interview when we're doing.
Benjamin Netanyahu
I'm so down to pull up to Moscow and interview Putin too.
Kyle Forgeard
Y will do, everybody.
Adam22
This is what sets off podcasts. You could put a small microphone here, but no, you have to see this thing. Right?
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Prime Minister Netanyahu with us today. We're here in the Blair House. Right. Is this the White House grounds?
Adam22
Close, close. It's the sort of the official guest house of the United States.
Benjamin Netanyahu
How have you seen, like, the White House and stuff? Like, how has it evolved over the years, over the times of you visiting it?
Adam22
I've met quite a few of the American presidents because I've been in office pretty long time. Not because we don't have elections, but because I want quite a few of them. Okay. I think there's never been a friend like Donald Trump in the, in the White House for Israel. I think he's a remarkable leader. I think he's changing history. He said he'll make America great again. He's already done it. You know, America is widely admired now around the world, and especially after our joint operation against this regime that wanted to, you know, chance death to America, death to Israel. Well, I think together we've shown the world a different, a different face of America. Very powerful, redirected, very resolute.
Benjamin Netanyahu
You guys are very tight, right? Would you call it a bromance?
Adam22
Well, you might. I mean, we've known each other several decades, and, you know, I really like him.
Benjamin Netanyahu
What do you like most about him?
Adam22
You know, if you meet him close up? And Sarah and I have had this opportunity many times, including last night in a great dinner we had at the White House. First of all, Donald Trump is. Can be very funny. Of course, he can be very funny, especially off camera.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Right.
Adam22
You can absolutely. You can split your, you know, you sort of sit there and you start following because it's so funny. And also, I'll tell you one something else that Sarah, who's a psychologist, and she, you know, psychologists, you know, psychologists, of course, they look at people, they identify very quickly with that. You know, what you said to me about Donald Trump, he said he's a good person, he has a good heart, he wants to do good. And that is something that I, I think that you have to know him well to appreciate it. And the last thing I tell you about him. Okay. I mean, I could tell you many things, but he cuts through the chase. You know, he cuts through the bs. I have to spell out what BS is. He cuts through the bs. He goes right to the point, to the heart of the matter. And sometimes he says things that get right to things that people don't want to really think through, and it gets cuts to the bone. And that is an amazing quality because it lets you focus on the, the things that are important. So it's been an incredible partnership, both personally, but also for our two nations.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Did you have any type of relationship with Biden?
Adam22
Not the same. I've known Biden for, What is it, 40 years? Almost as long. Well, both of them, over the decades, it was a different relationship. It was a friendship, but also it evolved into, how shall I say this, Severe disagreements. And with Donald Trump, we've had powerful agreements and where there's no Daylight between an American President and Israeli Prime Minister, amazing things can happen. Like our common enemies who chant death to Israel, death to America and want to develop atomic bombs and the means to deliver them to this city and to every part of America. All of a sudden they're not so intimidating. All of a sudden we, we can defeat them. All of a sudden you can use these brave American pilots who come from around the world, drop it right over the bunker and help us end our amazing, the amazing feats of our soldiers and pilots. That's an amazing thing. It's good for America. It's good for the security of every single American.
Kyle Forgeard
How do you feel about the American's opinion on Israel right now?
Adam22
Well, look, I think the broad segments of the American public support Israel, but I'm concerned that the young people in America, some of them are getting the wrong picture of Israel. Vilification, demonization, you can feed them a lot of lies. So the only way you can fight lies is with the truth. How do you fight lies? You tell the truth and you have to tell it as often and as you know and as intensely as the lies that are leveled against you. And that is, that requires an effort. It's like another battlefield, you know, And I'm, I'm doing this podcast, among other things, to reach young people. Of course, you guys are pretty young.
Benjamin Netanyahu
I mean, 30 years old.
Adam22
30, 30. That's young.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah, yeah. What do you think the biggest misconceptions are about Israel?
Adam22
Well, they, first of all, they don't know what kind of a, an open society it is, how pluralistic. I mean, we live in the heart of the Middle east, okay. Iran is not that far away. In Iran, they hang gays by cranes. In Israel, probably. Tel Aviv is one of the, you know, the most open, liberal minded city on earth. Israel is revisited there. Yeah, it's completely different.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Our gay too, he had a good time.
Adam22
You can vouch.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah, no, yeah.
Adam22
So, you know, I mean that. Look at that. How about women? Okay? Women in Iran, they shoot the women they shot. This extraordinarily brave and beautiful woman shot on the sidewalk because she showed too much hair. In Israel, women are, you know, you know what? What? Women. I'll tell you what the difference is, okay? So I had this young women officer in my military secretariat. You know, the Prime Minister has military secretariat and usually as a general and it has staff assistance. One of the staff assistants was this young woman, a pilot navigator, on leave from the Air Force to do this work in the Prime Minister's office. You know, what you did now, she was flying over the skies of Tehran, you know, attacking this horrible regime that tyrannizes the women in Tehran. That's the difference. The women there get shot on the sidewalk, and an Israeli woman pilot helps liberate Iran. Quite the women of Iran. And boy, that's a big difference. And that's true of everything. It's true of nightlife. It's true of the startup nation, the. The incredible ingenuity and entrepreneurship, incredible freedom. Israel is a. Is a. Is a. I would say, is a. A paragon of freedom in a. In an area that doesn't exactly enjoy freedom. And you to have young Americans march and support these mass rapists, these people who beheaded men, who burned babies alive. I'm talking about the Hamas monsters. Is that their ideal? They don't. Nothing. I mean, they don't know what they're talking about. And I want to bring that truth to them. So Israel is a great free society and the best partner that America has anywhere.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Great people there for sure. When we visited, everyone was so welcoming and people were inviting us over for dinner and stuff. But I see, like, that's the thing, too. I'm not claiming to be an expert too, but I'll just read stuff on, like, X. And like, people will say, like, Israel's killing babies or like they're starving people.
Adam22
That's completely false. In fact, the reason. The reason we have civilian casualties in Gaza is because Hamas were basically horrible murderers and killers, okay, Committed to our destruction. And your destruction, they say so openly. I mean, they, they. They say the big enemy, the real enemy, the great Satan, is America, and Israel is the small Satan, but the small Satan that is standing in their way of conquering with other Iranian proxies, conquering the Middle east, and then we move on to you. So America is the great Satan. And America, you know, needs to disappear. And we stand in their way. But one of the things you have to understand is Gaza is the densest urban environment you can find. And Hamas embeds itself in the civilian population of Gaza, meant the Palestinians, okay? We tell the Palestinians, hey, leave, because after they butchered us and raped our women and beheaded our men and burned our babies, you know, we have to remove this threat. So we come in to take care of the Hamas terrorists, but the Hamas terrorists don't leave the civilian neighborhoods. And we say to the civilians, we call them up because we have their telephone numbers. We say, leave, please leave. We send them leaflets, millions of leaflets. Please leave. We, you know, we do everything that is possible that no army has done. They want to leave. You know what Hamas does? They shoot them. You say, we want you to stay because we want to have civilian casualties, because then they can show it on CNN or all these other networks and so on, and plague that Israel is deliberately doing this. We're not deliberately doing anything. We'd like them to leave. In fact, successively during the war, it's been now a year and a half, they finally do leave, most of them. So we've minimized those casualties. But it's not because we seek to have civilian casualties. It's because Hamas wants them. They're willing to sacrifice their own children, their own families, both because they don't really care for human life, but also because they think it's very good propaganda against us. And if they just let them leave, leave the war zone, get to the safe parts, safe havens that we've created in Gaza, no one would be hurt. And the minute Hamas lays down its arms, surrenders, maybe we let them leave Gaza. That's the end of the war. No one gets hurt.
Benjamin Netanyahu
What would your message be to. To Palestinians that just want to have, like, a peaceful life?
Adam22
Get rid of Hamas, help us get rid of Hamas. They torment you. They oppress you, they shoot you in the back of the head. If you want to leave the war zone, they kill you. And if you say a word in protest, they'll kill you. If you're gay, you're in bad shape, really bad shape. And if you are a woman, you're shadow, you're chattel, you're nothing, you're property. That's the opposite of everything we believe in. We. I say it's not only Israel, it's you. So we're the same.
Kyle Forgeard
How do you respond to, like, I'd say there's a lot of American support from the females, from the gays towards Palestine. So how does that make any sense?
Adam22
You know, gays for Gaza is like chickens for kfc, you know, I mean, that's insane. The whole thing is absurd. Chickens for kfc, Right? Engage for Gaza or, you know, women for the women of Gaza. Talking about, you know, they're completely subjugated. They've got this death cult that is contaminated. So you can. You can push this stuff on Tick tock or whatever on this stuff, but it, you know, you can't build peace or security on the, you know, on the rocks, you know, they'll crash. I mean, these things will crash on the rocks of Middle Eastern realities. You can only build peace on truth and reality, not on Deliberate, falsified fantasy.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Why do they say Israel's like, starving the people of Gaza?
Adam22
Well, because we're trying to get the food in, and we let food trucks in. And guess what happens when we let them in? Hamas steals the food, takes the good chunk for itself, then sells at inflated prices. They jack up the prices, and then they sell the food to its population, to its hungry population, if they give them at all, and then use the money that they take from their own people to recruit more killers into their terror machine. That's what happens.
Kyle Forgeard
Why are more Palestinians not siding with Israel against Hamas then?
Adam22
Well, up to now, they've been terrorized. But guess what's happened since we're beating Hamas, all of a sudden we see Palestinians rising. You have to see this to believe this, okay? And they say to Hamas, hey, you're not coming into my building. You know, you can't use the my school or this hospital as your command post. We're not letting you. As they start fighting them now, we have actually armed conflict between Palestinians and terrorists. It's was unimaginable a year and a half ago, but now there are Palestinians who rise up and, you know, the more the better, because we can create a different future for Gaza. And we should also do something very simple that President Trump said, and it was really. That's my idea. That's how he cuts the chase. He says, you know, at the end of this war, the people of Gaza should have the choice if they want to leave for other countries. They want a freedom of choice. Why are they locked in hell? We're not locking them in. Anybody could leave. But Hamas is locking them in. Suppose they want to leave. They want to go to another country, okay? Why shouldn't they have the freedom of choice to do that? Because this is all upside down. You know, the. The. The victim of this horrible terrorism is called the aggressor. The. The people who are oppressed by Hamas are seen as supporting Hamas. Give them a choice. Give them freedom. Give them. Give them a life, and give them future. They can't have that with these Hamas stormt. But the amazing thing is, you know, I come here and I see these protests. The people who are protesting for Hamas and against Israel, they burn American flags. They not only burned the flag of Israel, they burn American flags. They're anti American. They're not maga. They're not supporters. You know, who do they support? You know who they support? They support Iran and its proxy, Hamas or Hezbollah. What does Iran do? Just understand people who, who. What is It. Who, who support Iran or speak on its behalf. Iran tried to assassinate President Trump not once, but twice.
Benjamin Netanyahu
They were behind those assassination attempts.
Adam22
They openly admit, by the way, they put out a price on his head. On mine too, by the way. Smaller price. Just. I'm not offended.
Benjamin Netanyahu
They actually put a price on your head?
Adam22
Yeah, two days ago.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Do you know what it is?
Adam22
Yeah, it's smaller than his, naturally. He's the President of the United States, for God's sake. Okay, so they, they put out a fatwa two days ago or three days ago by the official cleric of the radiant regime that President Trump has to be assassinated and that I have to be assassinated. And by the way, they targeted Sarah. My wife was here. And they targeted our bedroom window. Yeah, we were supposed to be there. They hit through their proxy Hezbollah. They fired a drone right into our bedroom window. So just recently? Oh, yeah, it was a couple of months ago. Yeah.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Wow.
Adam22
No, it was a year ago, actually. Yeah, a year ago. Okay, so how long, how many months? Seven months ago. She counts, you know, but yeah, so they tried to assassinate President Trump twice. They've killed and inj thousands of Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. They bombed American embassies. They murdered 241 Marines in Beirut. They, they chant death to America, Death to Israel. They, they're, you know, they're out to get America. They're building atomic, or they were building atomic bombs and intercontinental ballistic missiles. That's our plan to reach America. So do you want these, these mad ayatollahs to have that power? Of course not. So they're anti American. They're anti the guys who protest. And many of them are paid and organized by foreign nos. Bad people. They're out against America. They hate Israel because they see Israel as part of America. And you know, in many ways they're right.
Kyle Forgeard
I'm just trying to figure it out too, because even in New York City. Right. What's Zoron? Yeah, he's an anti Semitic guy. The highest, I think the, the highest population of Jews in New York City. How's that even possible?
Adam22
Well, it's possible because a lot of people have been taken in by this nonsense. I mean, what, you want to defund the police? You want to have people go into stores and, you know, rob them and be free? You think that really creates a good society? You want to crush all enterprise? You want to tax people to death? I mean, you know, that's a one term effort, but, you know, sometimes you have to get mugged by reality to understand how stupid that is so that's silly. But, you know, sometime folly overtakes human affairs for a while, but not for long because reality steps in. So I, you know, I'm obviously not happy with it, but I'm, I'm less concerned with it because I think if we can speak the truth to the young people of America, you know, they wise up pretty quickly.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Is the war with Iran, is it over now? After President Trump did authorize the strike and they destroyed the nuclear program, was.
Adam22
That certainly helped. But I'll tell you what happened. You know, we were like a person with two lumps of cancer, okay, that threatened our life. The first one's a nuclear cancer. Would have taken them another year. Within a year they would have had atomic bombs, which they openly declared in the tyrants of Tehran. They said, we're gonna destroy Israel, a Jewish state. The other threat that we had, another lump of cancer, was these ballistic missiles. Now you got to understand, this is like a bus, so with a ton of TNT, okay, explosives, comes down in Mach 8 and boom. Just destroys everything inside. Israel is the size of New Jersey, okay? It's bigger than Rhode island, but that's about it. You know, it's the size of New Jersey. Now you imagine that you would have 20, 000 of these ballistic missiles, these one ton bombs on new Jersey. So you either get destroyed by atomic bombs or by thousands and thousands of these deadly ballistic.
Benjamin Netanyahu
So you think they're still a threat and they wanted.
Adam22
Well, we had to act. Yeah. Why do we have to act? Because if you don't remove the cancer, you're going to be dead. Now if you remove it as we did, it might come back. That happens in cancer too. But if you don't remove it, you're not going to be there. So we had to act. We did act and I, you know, just with incredibly brave soldiers.
Benjamin Netanyahu
But is there a chance of peace with this current regime?
Adam22
Not with the regime, but with the Iranian people. And I think they've had enough. 80% of them want to throw these theological thugs out. They're just, you know, intimidated by secret police that has, you know, that just shoots them. But I think that, I think that there's a chance that the Iranian people will actually rise up because, you know, everybody talks about regime change and they envision, you know, the American army and the Israeli, the IDF forces invading Iran, boots on the ground and all that other nonsense that people spewed forth. No, we took action to remove those two life threatening threats, the nuclear threat and the ballistic missile threat. And we removed it, we pushed it away for many years. But ultimately, it's up to the people of Iran to rise up against their tormentors. And I think there's a possibility it will happen, and then we can have peace. We had peace with Iran before that. Before. Before the Ayatollahs took over. You know, in 1979, we had direct flights between Tel Aviv and Iran. You know, we're two ancient peoples. We had a great partnership over many years. We have a common history together, and it's sort of interrupted by this thuggery. But when this regime goes down, you're gonna see peace between us like you never believed it.
Benjamin Netanyahu
That'd be nice, because. Yeah, I think one thing Americans don't want to see is everyone has post traumatic stress from, you know, trying to do regime change in Iraq and the past Middle Eastern wars.
Adam22
Why do it? That doesn't work. You know, it just doesn't work. It has to come from within. From within the people. And the people are, you know, they're. They're great people. The Iranian people are great people. You know, I sometimes do these podcasts to them. It's not a podcast. I mean, I do, you know, I do. I do a video. Okay, so three, four minutes. You know, I tell them that we would happily cooperate with them, solve their water crisis. Israel is the best water management in the world. You know, we could give. They don't have water in Iran, even though they have. They don't have electricity, even though there's. They swim in oil, you know, because it's so corrupt and so badly managed. So I give these podcasts, you know what I see? Millions and millions and millions of views. And the first time they showed me this, I said, no, it can't be. I said, no, no, Prime Minister, look, I mean, you got, I don't know, 15 million views. I mean, the whole population of Iran is.
Benjamin Netanyahu
They're watching, right?
Adam22
90 minutes. So I. I said, oh, wow, that's amazing. You know what the amazing thing is? They have names. The people identify themselves. Do you understand? In a tyranny like this, if people speak out, they really want, you know what they want? Freedom. They want their freedom. They have, you know, they have this slogan. Well, it's women, freedom. You know, the women want to be free, the men want to be free, and Israel wants them to be free. And I think America wants them to be free. But it's up to them, ultimately. Ultimately, it's up to them. And I think they're getting closer and closer to the day when These, this horrific regime disappears, that'll be good for America. So it's not conquest, it's not American boots on the ground, for God's sake. Everybody said, World War iii, remember, if the President enters, you got the, you know, these experts, paid experts, you know, silly experts, America, that World War iii, it's war between China and America and you have to invade Iran and all that nonsense. Hell, now, I mean, very brave and persistent pilots, they go in, drop this thing in the bunker, come back, not a single American casualty. And by the way, not a single Israeli casualty. Our brave pilots flying over the skies of Tehran, nothing.
Benjamin Netanyahu
How did President Trump let you know about that mission?
Adam22
You ever hear of phone calls?
Benjamin Netanyahu
So what, buddy just called you up and said, prime Minister, I don't think we're bringing in the B2s.
Adam22
I don't think it was an open line, you know, but you know, we have these, we have these great conversations, were very open with each other and he said, it's like a team. That has never happened before. And I can categorically vouch that having worked with successive American presidents, I've never seen anything like it. And it's trust, it's affinity, it's understanding that, you know, we're fighting for a greater purpose and that we can do so very intelligently and very differently from the way that is being portrayed in the media. And you just had proof, you know, all these guys, you know, they're sitting there, yeah, if, if President Trump is foolish enough to do this, it's going to start World War iii. It's going to embroil America in another Vietnam. You heard this stuff. Do you remember this? This is yesterday. They talked about it with such authority and, you know, and seeming expertise. That's all nonsense. It just turns out to be nonsense. Pure, utter nonsense. And the President had the temerity and the leadership to disavow these so called experts and do the right thing and to do it with great resolution, great clarity and with great transparency between us. You don't have to tell the Iranians, but we tell each other.
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Benjamin Netanyahu
Do you have any type of relationship with Kim Jong Un?
Adam22
No.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Nothing?
Adam22
No.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Just one. Just interesting.
Adam22
No. The answer is no.
Kyle Forgeard
I think you definitely have a tough job, but why do you think you're like, so hated worldwide?
Adam22
Well, a lot of propaganda. First of all, I'm not hated worldwide. I'm. I just received this. I just talked to someone, a rabbi, and he says he just heard from his brother who was in, in Europe, okay, and one of the countries of Europe, and he says that he's being flooded. You know, they know he's from Israel. They, all the people are coming and they say you did this amazing thing for all of us, okay? The Chancellor of Germany said Israel did the work for all of us. The new chancellor of Germany, okay, I hear, you know, they had the G7. The President told me they were all going crazy. I mean, you know, in a positive way because we liberated them. Because those Iranian missiles were geared at, at Europe too, and ultimately at America with nuclear warheads. So we had the guts to do this. And, you know, the propaganda is there, I don't deny it. But people also have, you know, sometimes the truth beckons. And what Israel did with the, with President Trump is safeguard free societies from a menace. I mean, this Iranian regime hangs gays from cranes, shoots women on the sidewalk for not covering their hair, oppresses their people, spreads terrorism worldwide, kills Americans wholesale, tries to murder the American president, the former Secretary of State, the former National Security advisor, you know, so people's heads, you know, if people are turned that way, that question you have to ask is not why do they hate me or President Trump? Is why don't they see reality? Why don't they see what's good for them. And the answer is, most of them do if you tell them the facts. But how do you tell them the facts over tick tock? You, you guys are there, you tell me, what's the suggestion? You got any ideas for me?
Benjamin Netanyahu
I don't think it's the Iran thing. The main thing I just see is, is if I don't think people like, if civilians are getting injured or killed.
Adam22
We don't want it either.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah, well, I think the other issue too is you see there's a lot more Palestinian protests. You don't see very many Israeli protests. So you're going to see that on TikTok.
Adam22
You know, it's organized, it's systemic, but it doesn't make it true. I mean, so what? Yeah, you have it, but what are they protesting for? I mean, look, most of the Arab world has made peace with Israel. We've had four historic peace accords. You know, people said you can never have peace because the Palestinians, you first have to solve the Palestinian issue. Well, the Palestinians are, have been fighting us for a hundred years before there was even a state of Israel. And they're not fighting for a state. They don't want a state next to Israel, they want a state instead of Israel. And they teach their children that the greatest duty is to murder as many Jews as they want. The so called moderates, the, you know, the other branch, not Hamas, the moderates that are described as such, they pay for slay. The more Jews you kill, the more they pay the murderers. I mean that's, that's a death.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Which is crazy. Yeah, some of the anti Semitism I, I see is, is pretty nuts.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah, well, yeah, I'll tell you, I'm an American Jew and it's, it's hard to identify as that. I understand, don't even want to own it.
Adam22
But I think, I think we just changed history. I see American Jews are very proud now. Jews around the world are very proud because we, you know, these guys were out to murder us and do another Holocaust. You know, the Holocaust, The Nazis murdered 6 million Jews. There are now 7 million Jews, close to 8 million Jews in Israel. They want to murder all of us and they say so. And all of a sudden, you know, Unlike the Holocaust 80 years ago, we were completely defenseless, you know, and they butchered us. Now we're not defenseless, but we are targeting them. And even though we have to fight the vilification that is happening in America too, you know, ultimately people join winners. That's what happens People join winners and we stand up strong and we're proud. And American Jews and the friends of Israel, who are not Jews, stand proud with us too. And I wouldn't be intimidated by these protesters. I think they're, I don't think they know what they're talking about. You know, they're not, they're just totally ignored.
Kyle Forgeard
What would you say you're the longest standing prime minister of. In Israel's history? What would you say is your greatest accomplishment, your biggest regret?
Adam22
My greatest accomplishment is what I set out to do 40 years ago, right after the rise of the so called Islamic Republic of Iran. I said, this is the greatest danger facing Israel in the world. Because of this fanatic anti American, anti Israeli regime gets nuclear weapons, we will be in mortal danger. So I devoted decades of my life to try to prevent them from getting it. And I think my, I think one of the achievements that we have as we push back this great danger again with full partnership with President Trump and the, and the United States of America, I'm very proud of that. And the other thing I did was I, I liberated the Israeli economy. It was a, it was a semi socialist economy of the kind that the, this candidate for New York. It's not a good idea. You know, like we had a very low GDP per capita, and we weren't a first world nation, okay? Everything was tied, you know, you had bureaucrats, you know, bureaucrats controlling everything, depriving initiative, enterprise, and so on. And I, as Prime minister and for some time as finance minister, I just did, you know, I just liberated the economy. I just did all these reforms that allowed people to set up their own business. You have a business right now. Are you regulated?
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yes, you are.
Adam22
Why are you regulated? You're regulated by what? You should have the freedom to say whatever you want to talk, whatever you. I didn't realize there's regulation on podcasts. Is that right?
Benjamin Netanyahu
Not anymore, actually, since President Trump won.
Adam22
Oh, good.
Benjamin Netanyahu
We've noticed all the social medias have been a lot more pro free speech.
Adam22
Yeah. All right, so I'm for free markets, you know, the marketplace of goods, services, ideas. You have to have the freedom to have your ideas. This is what we have in Israel. Boy, do we have it in abundance. But that's fine. That's what I like. I like competition. I like initiative. I like freedom. I like freedom because I think living without freedom is not worth it. And think of, you know, young people are watching me now. Think that every move that you make, every decision you'd like to make, is made by others. You remember, that's when you're little kids, right? You have the nanny state, you have the nanny that tells you what you can do, what you can't do. Not a good idea, right? That's not the kind of life you want. That's not the kind of life we have in Israel. It's a robust, free, pluralistic society compared to the darkness of Iran, the darkness of Hamas, gays for Gaza, chickens for kfc, women for the women of Gaza.
Benjamin Netanyahu
God Almighty God is crazy.
Adam22
No, but women for Gaza is crazy too, because you know what the women in Gaza are, They're property. They're nothing, they have no rights, they're completely subjugated. And, and God forbid if, you know, they're executed anytime they commit a so called offense. I mean, it's absurd. So young people, people who say they're progressives, people who talk about liberty and they join with these killers and they buy these lies and they, they say, you know, good is bad and bad is good, you know, you know what they say in the Bible, have they no eyes to see, have no ears to hear? You know, can they be that blind? And the answer, yeah, for a while, but I guess I'll wise up.
Kyle Forgeard
The second part of that question, what would you say is your biggest regret?
Adam22
Well, my biggest regret is that, you know, that my wife and my two boys have to suffer the sligs and arrows, you know, of public life. So I chose this life. I didn't know I'd get to be Prime Minister, but I chose public life. But when Sarah married me, she didn't choose this. She didn't know where it would end up. My boys were born into it, more or less, you know, and they get a lot of flack, a lot of vilification, a lot of character assassination. That is something I regret. But I'm, you know, it's part of the, part of the journey and it's very painful one, frankly. What I regret in terms of conduct, you know, I, I became prime minister at a fairly young age. And then in Israel I was 46 and you know, the first term I was booted out. After the first term, they put tons of money in there with the foreign NGOs. Yeah, I spent the first three years in which I was prime minister basically totally on the job and so did Sarah. And we sort of neglected our boys. And having been thrown out of office, I came back first as a finance Minister, but then 10 years altogether, 10 years later I became prime minister again. And since then I don't know, I won five elections. I can't, can't keep track. But I have to get re elected. People say, oh, baby, you're a king. I said, I'm not a king. King doesn't have to get re elected. I do. You know, I'm a Democrat, small D. I believe that the people have to choose who leads them, no one else. Okay? So second time I'm elected, Sarah told me, you know, let's not repeat the mistake. Our boys are going to be with us for a few more years and let's devote the family time, you know, you know what family time is? I'm telling this to you. Maybe you have the same thing. Maybe you have young families. You will have. She said Friday night, Shabbat dinner, you know, and lunch. Nothing. No phones, no cell phones. Get rid of them. Okay. Can you imagine sitting around the table not having cell phones? Yeah. It's a good idea. Try it sometime. Okay.
Benjamin Netanyahu
It's refreshing, right?
Adam22
Yeah. And, you know, we actually have family time for a limited time. My younger boy, who's, you know, he's an Oxford graduate, but he was a sort of, you know, he was, he was a great student of the Bible at a very early age. So we'd read a portion of the Bible, which is always relevant. You know, it's a good, it's a very good book, by the way. I strongly recommend it. I don't know if people still read it, but it's a great book. So up to the age of 12, I was teaching him, okay? From the age of 12, he was teaching me. And this was family time. And it's because my wife had the, you know, the, just the wisdom to give us those years that otherwise would go forever.
Benjamin Netanyahu
You know, what's one thing you and President Trump have in common? Like something like specific, like a hobby or like something you both like. Like a food.
Adam22
Hamburgers.
Benjamin Netanyahu
McDonald's hamburgers.
Adam22
Yeah. So President Trump comes to, to Israel. It's a great visit, wonderful visit. Okay. And then we have dinner, okay. And we bring this chef, you know, he's like a very good chef. And he gives a seven course dinner, telling you, seven course, it's the longest dinner I've ever had. And you know, in this fancy plate and this fancy plate and this fancy plate, and finally he brings up this dressed up hamburger. And I look at Trump and he looks at me. Finally we had what we wanted. We got the hamburger, you know, so, yeah, I, I was, I was a junk food junkie for many years. Sarah and I would come, we didn't have. You remember, Israel was semi socialist, so we didn't even have a McDonald's or a burger King. Okay. And we'd land on an occasional visit to New York. You know what the first thing we did? McDonald's. And to be honest, Burger King. I like Burger King.
Benjamin Netanyahu
What's your go to at McDonald's?
Adam22
No, I'll tell you. Burger King. We did the, you know, the double. You know.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah, I haven't ripped Burger King.
Adam22
It's not Burger King.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Kind of sucks.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah. No, the BK Lounge can hit it.
Adam22
I disagree completely.
Benjamin Netanyahu
You like burger king over McDonald's.
Kyle Forgeard
That's your worst take, I think.
Adam22
Absolutely.
Kyle Forgeard
That's a crazy take.
Adam22
That was fine. I mean, I like Burger King. The answer is yes. And we'd go and have Burger King, and guess what happened? So I opened up the Israeli economy, right? And what do you think we had? McDonald's, Burger King's burger that, Burger this. And the bloom went off the rose. And how did I know? Because we, you know, we'd go for the French. We'd go for the lot. You know, the shakes, the French fries, the burgers. I mean, this is like. This is a massive, massive attack on your health. Never mind. Okay. No, we stopped, but we stopped gorging on this, and we sort of moved away from it. So. I remember. I remember that. But President Trump apparently still likes this stuff.
Kyle Forgeard
All he eats.
Benjamin Netanyahu
We rode on his plane before the election because we were doing the same thing with him. Yeah. McDonald's.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah, it was McDonald's lunch. Chicken fillet dinner.
Benjamin Netanyahu
You ever tried Chick Fil A?
Adam22
Chick fil A is good, actually.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Good, right?
Adam22
Yeah.
Benjamin Netanyahu
The Chick Fil A sauce, I don't remember that dip. The waffle fries in it.
Adam22
I think I went for the chickfila. Can you get me some? Yeah, can you get me some tomorrow? Sure. No, I'm gonna. See, I'm in this. I'm in this protein diet, you know.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Oh, are you?
Adam22
Yeah, I was until.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Until you saw President Trump, right?
Adam22
No, no. I'll tell you what happened. I can't divulge what happened in the meeting. It was great. But so he says, he calls his aide, you know, bring me the stuff, you know what he brings in. Chocolate, candy. I said, donald, what are you doing? You know, because I've been now for months off this sugar thing. And he says, this is good stuff. That's Donald Trump. He's a human being. You know, He's a great. He's a natural, wonderful guy. He's a warm person. And he's got, you know, he's got vilification the way we all do. You know, they paint a picture. You think the people are hearing me now? You think they know me? Not. Well, they do. Through you, the two of you, you know, you're opening it up, but I'm just telling you that. What do we have in common? Well, we like to spend time with each other.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah. You guys seem like you have a good time.
Adam22
Yeah, we do.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Chilling with Biden must have been boring.
Adam22
Next.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Obama was probably a good time though too.
Adam22
No, he was, I think.
Benjamin Netanyahu
I don't agree with everything he did, but Obama's still cool. Look, first of all, Obama was like, he has aura. You know what that means?
Adam22
Yeah, I do. And he had it. And I don't disclaim that he had great talents, but we had different view of the world. You know, I mean, he was a very talented and, and gifted person. And I don't think he was a weak person. I don't think that at all. But I think he, I think he had ideas that I didn't always share, to put it mildly. And the question is, what is, what is the general direction that you take? Okay. And I thought that making sure that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons was something that was absolutely essential, Absolutely essential. And he viewed it differently. He thought that, you know, through accommodation that he would stop them. And I don't think he did. I mean, he made a deal that basically paved their way with gold to a nuclear arsenal. So we disagreed. And it wasn't easy for me to make a decision that I made in 2015, that's 10 years ago. And I went to the U. S. Congress, you know, joint session of Congress to speak out against this deal that a sitting president was advancing. And that's not something that you do light heartedly. I did it because I thought the fate of my country was at stake. I thought we could be annihilated by the Iranians with a nuclear deal, would essentially pave their way to nuclear weapons. So I had to do it and I did it. But it's not for lack of respect, it's for disagreement. It's because of disagreement. And you know, people can disagree and in politics you often compromise.
Kyle Forgeard
I think that there's still a lot of gray area, like with your average American on what actually happened on October 7th, how it happened, why the response took so long.
Adam22
Well, what happened was that at 6:29 in the morning, several thousand of these Hamas murders crossed the fence from Gaza into the neighboring communities and butchered everything inside. And the biggest butchery took place in one kibbutz that I visited recently. And it's horrible. I mean, they went into the houses, they shot the children, they shot the babies, shot the families, old people, Holocaust survivors, you name it. And the other thing that they did was there was a music festival.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah.
Adam22
That lasted through the night in the open areas. Okay. Near Gaza. Young people, you know, came to have a music festival in nature. And these killers came there and they just sprayed the whole place. They murdered these young women and young men. And there were acts of heroism there that were amazing. Some of the. Some of the people saved people came back to save people. They themselves were mowed down. But there was. There was acts of carnage that was so cruel that it's impossible to imagine. But also acts of courage that are amazing. So that's what you had there. That's how it started.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah.
Adam22
And then, you know, how long did it take to get. Get in there? We're still investigating why it took so long. Why don't we just have attack helicopters right there? You know, we have a pretty good idea now, but that's going to be investigated fully.
Benjamin Netanyahu
What's your response to people that say it could have been prevented?
Adam22
I agree with them completely. And it was. It was just horrible. And the other thing that happened was they took 255 people hostage. I mean, we're talking about grandmothers and their grandchildren. We're talking about people they killed. They took their bodies so they can, you know, they could trade these bodies. I mean, they took young girls and young men, and it's. It's horrible. And on the first day, senior defense officials said. Said to. On the first day of the war, right. They said, he said, you know, we have to get used to the idea that we're not going to get any of these hostages out alive. And I thought differently. I said, no, we're going to get them all. Because if we have, you know, our military force, great courage of our soldiers, and the diplomatic effort that will combine with it, we're going to get them out. So up to date, we got of 255. We got 205 out, 147 of them alive. The rest are recovered bodies. Some of them we got out with heroic rescue efforts. Pirate, you know, just went in there into Hamas territory and these fantastic, brave soldiers, they got them out. And now we have 20 left when you are alive, and 30 that are not alive. And I'm going to get them all. We may have a deal. We're working on right now to try to get half of them, 10 alive and more than half of the disease sausages right away. And I'm committed to getting all of them out. I believe in this. I didn't believe for a second that we wouldn't get anyone alive. We've got nearly all of them, but I want all of them, all of them dead. And the living.
Benjamin Netanyahu
What's that negotiation like? Like, why do they let some out and then they're still holding on to some?
Adam22
Because they think that, you know, because they think that will, that. That's their security blanket. You know, these innocent people that have been kidnapped, I mean, kidnapped. They kidnapped these innocent children. You know, they kidnapped these, these women. I mean, and these grandmothers, and they. They put them in the dungeons, these underground dungeons in Gaza. And some of these young people are tall, like they're six, four, you know, they can't stand up for months. They can't stand up because the tunnels are lower and they. There's nothing. There's no daylight, there's nothing. Just imagine this unbelievable thing, you know, I couldn't imagine.
Kyle Forgeard
I've seen the retaliation, too. So what's, what's your message to. Why? Because a lot of Americans don't think we should support Israel at all.
Adam22
That means you don't support America because for the terrorists, you know what, the terrorists are fighting us because they say we're America and America is Israel. We have the same free societies, the same free values. They want to drive us back to the. The dark ages of this tyranny. And Americans who say that, I think basically say, okay, so you support those who chant, death to America, those who want to eliminate America. That's crazy. Oh. Oh, boy.
Benjamin Netanyahu
This is nice service.
Adam22
Yeah, it's right.
Benjamin Netanyahu
So we did on the full sun pod.
Adam22
Thanks.
Benjamin Netanyahu
You were a soldier yourself, right? How long did. Did you serve?
Adam22
I served for five years.
Benjamin Netanyahu
What was that like?
Adam22
What was it like? I was in a special unit. You know, I like our special forces. Like, like your Navy SEALs. You know, it's like that's the best thing that I could describe. What was it like? First of all, it was demanding. You know, I. I was. Spent a few years in the United States in high school, so I figured, you know, it's a good time to prepare. So I, you know, I ran, I swam, I lifted weights. I said, yeah, I'm ready. Okay. Boy, was I wrong. I wasn't ready. It's not only the physical demands, but also the, you know, the psychological demands of stress.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Like you put into the training's crazy, right?
Adam22
Yeah, the training's very hard, but. But very soon. I mean, like, we did crazy things and some of them were. Well, you know, we had the first hijackings of Israeli planes from Lebanon, actually from plo. That was in Scon. In Lebanon. So as a very. Soldier, I mean, we landed in Beirut Airport, like in the movies, you know, we were told to wear red berets. I thought that was ridiculous. I mean, very theatrical. But we landed in. We landed in Beirut airport and took care of the. The plans. We didn't kill anyone, but we blew up the planes. And we said to Lebanon, if you hijack our planes, we're going to blow up your planes. Didn't kill anyone. Was like a textbook operation. And then, you know, we have went into a lot of these things, but when you're young And I was 18, you think, you think that this is cost free. But one of the first things that happened to me was that one of my close friends came from what you would call a disadvantaged home. He was a brilliant student who was put into a great school, was a mathematician and an athlete. And we became very close friends. And after a certain operation, he died in my arms. You know, it's not an easy thing when, you know, somebody dies in your arms and so you go through that. What was it like? On the whole, it was a great preparation for life. I became an officer and led many operations behind enemy lines. So it teaches you, one, that you can do many things that seemingly are possible. But two, also to recognize that at least I did, that life isn't a series of military operations. You know, it's more complicated. It's not. You can't control everything, and you have to sometimes go with the flow. But the most important thing I found is to live a life of purpose. You know, you have a purpose in life. You have a cause, you have something that you think is greater than yourself. You know, live that life and don't forget your family. You know, have a life of purpose and, you know, have. Don't forget your family. And in my case, my family was also my older brother, who, who was also an officer in my unit, ultimately became its commander. And he led the rescue team in probably the most celebrated rescue of hostages in modern history. That's the rescue of 103 Israelis in Entebbe, Uganda. Like it was thousands of kilometers away. When I was a soldier, when I was an officer, the. The PLO hijacked a Belgian airplane, Sabine airplane, landed it in Tel Aviv airport and said, unless you Release these killers. You know, we're going to blow up the whole plane full of Israeli passengers. And my unit was selected to do something about it. We had a defense minister, his name is Moshe Dayan. I don't know if you remember him. He had a, you know, he had a one eyed patch. He had a patch, it was very charismatic figure. And he negotiated with the, with the terrorists in the plane. And they said, you know, they want to fly out to a destination of their choice. They'll let the passengers go and will fill the plane with these jail terrorists. And while he was negotiating, we were practicing how to use pistols, you know, in order to, in order to penetrate the airport, the airplane, but not kill everybody. Because if you use submachine guns, everybody would be dead. Now who the hell use pistols? They're totally useless, you know, what do you need them for? They don't have firepower. They're, they're. You don't really do that. You have assault rifles, you have submachine guns, but you don't use pistols anyway. Practiced on pistols. Then we put them in our boots. We wore mechanics overall. And now we go to the plane, we're going to fix the plane. There's no fixing to do, but we fixed the plane.
Benjamin Netanyahu
And they let you guys just walk up like that?
Adam22
Well, no, they didn't actually. What they did was they put, they put the Red Cross at a distance, these two hijackers. There's two hijackers, male and two women, okay? And they will blow up the plane if we just try to get close or if we do any shenanigans, okay? So they put a Red cross position within 100 yards of the plane. And they're looking down from the cockpit. And the Red Cross is supposed to frisk us, okay? And we wear mechanics, white overalls. Now, before we sit out, I have this big argument with my brother. He was also an officer. I'm an officer, a team officer in the unit. And he's above us in a, in a high rule. And he says, he says, bibi, I'm coming too. I said, you can't come in. There are only 14 or 15 soldiers coming in. We can't have two brothers going in there, you know. He said, okay, then you go out, I'll take care, I'll take care over your team. I said, they're my soldiers. You can't do that. He said, okay, so we'll both go. And I said, y. Do you understand what you're saying? I mean, think of mother and father. Think of what would happen if one of us gets killed. You know what he said to me? He said, bibi, my life is my own and my death is my own. I didn't buy it. I said, I'm not leaving and you're not going. Now. We had an argument, so we went to the commander of the unit and he sided with me. And Yoni's left behind. And there, there's a film of him, you know, a documentary, because people took a film and you see him like a caged young lion. He's pacing back and forth. But we now go through the Red Cross thing, okay? We're going. Baggage trains stop near the red crossing and they're frisking us, okay? They're going to see that we're not. That we're kosher, we're not armed. And each of it passes by then. And this is a French guy, okay? So he first says, frisk, comes to the boot, he feels that pistol, okay? And he says, monu, you know, you know what that means? My God. And I tell him in French, in the halting French that I had thought is great, and let me pass through, okay, now we climb on the wings and I take one wing with my team. Another team takes the other wing, come from behind, we're ready to storm the plane. And one of, oh, that's great, thank you. And the commander is on the tarmac, he's going to blow the whistle and we're all going to punch into that plane simultaneously because if you knock out the door, the door bounces out. I didn't know that until we did that. Everything's ready to go. And then one of my team, who was a security officer that we picked up at the airport, because these guys were very proficient. You know, they're sitting on planes and they're really well practiced with the pistols. So we took whatever we found in the airport and I had one of them with me and he says, maybe you got to stop the operation. I said, what happened? He said, well, you see, I flew in from London and the plane was packed. And during the whole four or five hour flight, I tried to get to the. The john, to the toilet, and I couldn't make it. So the minute we landed, you guys plucked me over and now I'm on this operation. I have to go. I said, you. You what? Said, I have to go. I said, big or small? He said, big. I said, I don't believe this. So I jump off the plane, I go to the commander, and I say, you know, this guy has got to go he says, now. I said, now. He said, big or small? I said, big.
Benjamin Netanyahu
He couldn't hold it.
Adam22
I guess you call it a shitty story. But anyway, you know, he comes off the plane. You know, he comes off the plane and whatever. He relieved himself under the fuselage. He comes back up, the commander blows the whistle. You know, we punch the door on both sides. The door flies out, and, you know, they're shooting at us. And one shot got through a passenger's. You know, I mean, she slumped over, and we had to push her aside in order to get in. And two of the terrorists, the male terrorists, run into the front, and the other guys in the front got them. But we're afraid right now that they're going to blow up the plane, because they were going to blow it up. And as I walk, as I rush in, the passengers say, that's her. That's her. Okay? And there's this woman sitting there with a. You know, sitting there in the. In one of the seats, and I grab her hair and I push and I get a wig. Okay, grab her again. And, you know, and I said, where are the charges? Where are the charges? And one of the security guards, that other security guard that was in the front part of the plane, he says, bibi, let me handle this. And he comes in, and I see his pistol is, you know, is sort of cocked, you know, and I could see the bullet in there. And his name was, by the way, Marco. That was his name, like Secretary of State Marco. And I say, hey, Marco, don't do this. And he slaps her on the. You know, on the. On the face. And the bullet goes right through her, into me and into my arm. And I felt like I was hit by a sledgehammer, you know, and they took me off the plane, and I'm lying on the tar. This whole thing took two minutes, okay? The whole thing took two minutes. Killed the two terrorists, got the two women terrorists. And I'm lying on the tarmac, and I've got this, you know, this bullet in my arm. And I see Yoni running, my brother, and he's running, you know, towards the plane. And he. He really has this horrible worried face, you know, on. You know, he's really tormented because he knows that his younger brother has been hit and lying over, you know, on the tarmac. And he comes in, stands above me. He sees the red splash, you know, on my white overalls, on my sleeve, and this big grin spreads on his face. And he says, you see, Bibi, I told you you shouldn't go so that was that. And then a few years later, they decided, the hijackers, that they'll go to Teb, Uganda, that's thousands of miles away, and that would be safe. But they didn't reckon that Israel would reach them. They didn't reckon that Yoni would reach them. So he was the commander of the unit. I was at MIT at the time. Already I was out of the army. And he. He led his forces there, and. And they liberated the hostages. And there was one military casualty, him. She asked how it was in the unit. It was unit. It was great. Five years. And after that, it was a pivotal moment in my life, changed my life. It directed it to its present course. But it was for me, my parents, my younger brother was filled with agony. And that's why, you know, when our soldiers fell and we had this day, tragic day, we had five soldiers, young soldiers that fell. For me, it's not merely just the loss of these five souls, but it also harkens back to the agony that my parents had, that I had. And I. I always say that, you know, you should use force very judiciously because life is precious and war is hell. It really is. That's not a cliche. It's true. But sometimes you have no choice but to fight for your survival and for your. The future of your country. That's what my brother did. That's what I and my colleagues did in our military service. That's what brave Americans do and brave Israelis do very often. Otherwise, we wouldn't be sitting here enjoying the life, the freedoms we have, the liberties we have. It's not free. It's not cost free. And I hope young Americans who are listening to us can appreciate that, because that is the lesson of the last century. If you're not prepared to defend freedom, you lose it.
Benjamin Netanyahu
It's true.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah. The stuff people complain about here compared to other countries is insane. We're so grateful to live in countries like this.
Adam22
But you had generations of. Of American servicemen and service women who purchased that freedom for you because you can't just, you know, hide in Fortress America. There's a difference. You don't have to intervene in every conflict. You don't have to intervene in most conflicts, but you have to intervene in those conflicts that could jeopardize your national security, your freedom, your life. And that's what happened in Iran, because they were really threatening to develop the means of mass death and the means to deliver them to America that could have jeopardized the life of every American. And that's why I think a great thing has been done. And I. I salute the service, the pilots of both our countries and the fighting men and women of Israel. I took. You know. You know what I call this operation? You know, there's a phrase in the Bible, they shall rise like lions. Okay? That's what they say of the people of the ancient Israelites. They shall rise like lions. So I called it Rising Lion. Rising Lion. And boy, our soldiers fought like lions. I mean, they are very brave, very dedicated and very noble. And the last thing they want is to kill civilians. That's the last thing they want. And they take efforts that no other army has done on this thing. But. But one thing they want to do is assure the future of our people. You know, we haven't traveled, know how old the Jewish people is. America is 250 years old next year. Right, right. Well, the Jewish people are 3,500 years old. All right. Remember Moses parting the Red Sea? You know, that's about three, 500 years ago. So we have a great history of great tragedy and great triumph, and we're not going to let it end by the mad ayatollahs there want to rain death on both of us. And we're not going to be influenced by the. The people who are taken under their sway and support this cult of death. America stands for life. Israel stands for life. America stands for liberty. Israel stands for liberty. But President Trump and I believe in a doctrine that says simply this peace through strength. First comes strength, then comes the peace. And we've just demonstrated a lot of strength, and that's going to lead to a broadening of the peace in the Middle east and beyond. It's a great thing.
Benjamin Netanyahu
How would you ideally like to see it end in a perfect scenario?
Adam22
Well, I'd like to see the people of Iran take charge of their own destiny. But in any case, I'd like to make sure that Iran never acquires nuclear weapons. And I think we've done a hell of a lot for that purpose. And I'd like to see peace with our. The remaining neighbors. We made peace. I made peace with President Trump. Help. I made peace with four Arab states in a month, you know, and I'd like to see that peace expand to all our Arab neighbors. It's possible because the actions that we did in breaking the Iranian axis change the situation in quite a few of the countries around us. I think there are opportunities for peace there, and I intend to seize them.
Kyle Forgeard
We hope so, for sure.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah. I hope you and President Trump can Make peace in the Middle East. We're all praying for it.
Adam22
We already have, and I'm sure we can again. And look, if your audience wants to have a good time, you know, go to tell me. Yeah, yeah, you can vouch for it.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Is that what you're going to say?
Adam22
Isn't Tel Aviv.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Oh, yeah, Tel Aviv's lit.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah, it's fun.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Tel Aviv's on fire. I haven't been in the summer. We went in February last time, so we were supposed to come two weeks.
Kyle Forgeard
Ago, but two days before the bombing.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Right, Two days before the bombing.
Adam22
You can come back now.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah.
Adam22
You know what's happening in Tel Aviv? You know what's happening in the Israeli stock market?
Benjamin Netanyahu
What?
Adam22
You know, when a vertical wall is. Stock is going up. You know why? Because people saw great technology during the war. Because people are coming to invest in Israel because smart money moves very quickly. It's like the hottest. It's the hottest economy right now. Well, the American economy is giving a good competition, but Israel right now is shooting up because people realize that we have a great free market economy, great technology, great innovation, great entrepreneurs, and. And, you know, the whole place is changing. Did you see Tel Aviv as a village or as a.
Kyle Forgeard
Similar to Miami?
Benjamin Netanyahu
I thought a village.
Adam22
No, that's what it was a few decades ago.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Really.
Adam22
Like, I was very dilapidated. You say it's like Miami.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah.
Adam22
Isn't Miami on fire right now?
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah, Miami.
Adam22
Well, yeah. So Tel Aviv's on fire.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah. I really want to come again. I want to come. We'll come in August.
Adam22
Good.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah.
Adam22
The beaches are good.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah.
Adam22
And nightlife is good.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah, we tested the nightlife. We had a good time.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Yeah, we tested the nightlife.
Adam22
Well, I hear about it, but, yeah, we'll handle that.
Kyle Forgeard
Yeah.
Benjamin Netanyahu
For you. We'll make sure everything's well.
Adam22
Invite Sarah and me. We'll come. You know.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Awesome.
Adam22
And I really mean it. I'm really inviting all your friends to come see the truth. And you'll be mesmerized and you'll be captivated. And you'll then say, how is it that we could believe this nonsense? You know, it's like, who pulled the wool over our eyes? And how do we, you know, tear that away? It's a different place, different people, a different country. It's. It's a great place.
Benjamin Netanyahu
It is. We had a great time there.
Adam22
And guess what? We love America. Yeah. So you. We love Americans, too. So come over.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Well, we appreciate you giving us your time. We know you probably had an insanely busy day.
Adam22
Yeah.
Benjamin Netanyahu
A lot of stuff. More important than sitting down with two dummies here, but we appreciate it.
Adam22
No, no, no, no. We had good conversations here, and we had very good conversations. Conversations in the White House.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Awesome.
Kyle Forgeard
All right, Prime Minister, thank you so much.
Benjamin Netanyahu
Thank you so much.
Adam22
Thank you.
Full Send Podcast – Episode 161: Benjamin Netanyahu
Released on July 21, 2025 by Shots Podcast Network
Hosts: Kyle Forgeard, Bob Menery, SteveWillDoIt
Guest: Benjamin Netanyahu, former Prime Minister of Israel
In Episode 161 of the Full Send Podcast, the hosts Kyle Forgeard, Bob Menery, and SteveWillDoIt welcome a highly unexpected and controversial guest: Benjamin Netanyahu, the long-serving former Prime Minister of Israel. The episode delves deep into international politics, focusing primarily on Israel's stance against Iran, the dynamics of U.S.-Israel relations, and the recent tragic events involving Hamas.
Kyle Forgeard sets the tone with astonishment, saying, "This is fucking nuts" ([01:28]). Netanyahu responds candidly, admitting his lack of expertise in podcasting but expressing eagerness to educate listeners about the complex Middle Eastern issues.
Notable Quote:
"We are just not qualified to do this. That's what's interesting about this." – Benjamin Netanyahu ([01:29])
Netanyahu emphasizes the unprecedented nature of his appearance, acknowledging the potential for controversy but underscoring the importance of direct dialogue with world leaders.
The conversation shifts to Netanyahu’s relationship with former U.S. President Donald Trump. Netanyahu praises Trump’s leadership, highlighting their strong partnership in combating common threats.
Notable Quote:
"We have a different relationship. With Donald Trump, we've had powerful agreements where there's no daylight between an American President and Israeli Prime Minister." – Benjamin Netanyahu ([03:38])
He contrasts this with his relationship with President Joe Biden, noting severe disagreements despite their long-standing acquaintance.
Netanyahu lauds Trump for his decisive actions against adversaries, reaffirming their shared commitment to Israel's security.
Netanyahu addresses concerns about growing anti-Israel sentiment, particularly among young Americans. He attributes this to misinformation and vilification propagated by adversarial forces.
Notable Quote:
"The broad segments of the American public support Israel, but I'm concerned that the young people in America, some of them are getting the wrong picture of Israel." – Benjamin Netanyahu ([07:52])
He advocates for combating false narratives with relentless truth-telling, emphasizing Israel's status as a "paragon of freedom" in a region marred by oppression.
Netanyahu highlights Israel's progressive values, particularly regarding LGBTQ+ rights and women's freedoms, contrasting them sharply with neighboring nations like Iran.
Notable Quote:
"Tel Aviv is one of the most open, liberal-minded cities on earth. Israel is a completely different society compared to the darkness of Iran." – Benjamin Netanyahu ([08:39])
Delving deeper, Netanyahu dismantles prevalent myths about Israel, particularly the notion that Israel indiscriminately targets civilians in Gaza. He blames Hamas for embedding themselves within civilian populations, making it challenging to conduct military operations without collateral damage.
Notable Quote:
"The civilian casualties in Gaza are because Hamas embeds itself in the civilian population, meaning the Palestinians." – Benjamin Netanyahu ([15:25])
Netanyahu underscores Israel's extensive efforts to minimize civilian harm, including urging residents to evacuate war zones, which Hamas reportedly undermines through deliberate targeting.
He further criticizes movements like "Gays for Gaza" and "Women for Gaza," dismissing them as absurd and counterproductive to genuine peace efforts.
Netanyahu articulates his longstanding concern over Iran's nuclear ambitions and ballistic missile capabilities, likening them to "two lumps of cancer" threatening Israel and America. He praises the strategic strikes authorized by former President Trump that neutralized these threats.
Notable Quote:
"If you don't remove the cancer, you're going to be dead. We had to act, and we did." – Benjamin Netanyahu ([22:28])
He envisions a future where the Iranian regime is dismantled from within, allowing for peaceful relations between Iran and Israel, much like the historical ties before the 1979 Islamic Revolution.
Netanyahu advocates for "peace through strength," emphasizing that robust defensive measures pave the way for lasting peace in the Middle East.
Netanyahu shares personal anecdotes from his military service, highlighting the sacrifices made by himself and his comrades. He recounts a harrowing experience during a hostage rescue mission, underscoring the human cost of defending national security.
Notable Quote:
"Life isn't a series of military operations. It's more complicated. But the most important thing is to live a life of purpose and don't forget your family." – Benjamin Netanyahu ([53:05])
He reflects on the loss of his brother, Yoni Netanyahu, during the renowned Entebbe raid, illustrating the deep personal toll of such missions.
The podcast addresses the devastating Hamas attack on October 7th, detailing its brutality and the ensuing military response by Israel. Netanyahu expresses unwavering commitment to rescuing hostages and bringing Hamas to justice.
Notable Quote:
"I believe in this. I didn't believe for a second that we wouldn't get anyone alive." – Benjamin Netanyahu ([50:59])
He discusses the strategic challenges faced during the operation, including Hamas's use of civilian areas as shields, and the heroism displayed by both Israeli and American forces.
Netanyahu emphasizes the importance of resilience and collective memory in maintaining Israel's security and democratic values.
In concluding, Netanyahu outlines his ideal scenario for Middle Eastern peace, envisioning a region where Iran does not possess nuclear weapons and where Israel has cordial relations with all Arab neighbors. He remains optimistic about leveraging the current momentum to expand peace accords.
Notable Quote:
"Peace through strength. First comes strength, then comes the peace." – Benjamin Netanyahu ([73:02])
The episode wraps up with casual banter about Tel Aviv's vibrant nightlife and economic growth, reinforcing the podcast's blend of serious discourse with light-hearted moments.
Netanyahu on Podcasting Challenges:
"We are just not qualified to do this. That's what's interesting about this." ([01:29])
On U.S.-Israel Partnership:
"We've had powerful agreements where there's no daylight between an American President and Israeli Prime Minister." ([03:38])
Combating Misconceptions:
"Tel Aviv is one of the most open, liberal-minded cities on earth. Israel is a completely different society compared to the darkness of Iran." ([08:39])
On Military Responsibility:
"Life isn't a series of military operations. It's more complicated. But the most important thing is to live a life of purpose and don't forget your family." ([53:05])
Vision of Peace Through Strength:
"Peace through strength. First comes strength, then comes the peace." ([73:02])
Episode 161 of the Full Send Podcast offers a rare and unfiltered glimpse into the mind of Benjamin Netanyahu, blending geopolitical discourse with personal memoirs. While the episode sparked controversy due to Netanyahu's participation, it undeniably provides listeners with a robust understanding of Israel's contemporary challenges and strategic outlook. Through candid conversations and poignant reflections, the podcast aims to bridge gaps in understanding and foster informed discussions about Middle Eastern politics and international relations.