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Kyle
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Eric Trump
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Nelk Boys Member 1
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Eric Trump
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Kyle
Kyle, let's get into the podcast.
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Nelk Boys Member 1
All right guys, we got another great.
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Kyle
Episode today of the full send podcast. We got a legend here today. Eric Trump new book out now. Under siege. What is it? My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation by Eric Trump.
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Eric Trump
Welcome, Mar a Lago, guys. Good to have you back. Thank you. Yeah, it's amazing to be here.
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Kyle
We're just talking about it. We came here in 2022.
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Eric Trump
Slightly different times.
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Kyle
Different. Completely different times. But I think when we did President Trump on the pod, it was right when the Russia, Ukraine. Yeah, Situation happened. And then, yeah, we, we haven't been here since.
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Eric Trump
But how crazy has that whole thing been by the way? He was also in and out of courthouse. If this was 2022 he would have been out of courthouse literally every single day as they were trying to indict him for doing absolutely nothing wrong. And. And, yeah, I guess you just had a war kickoff. And here we are today.
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Kyle
I forgot the FBI rated.
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Eric Trump
I was the guy that got this. The call.
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Kyle
Really?
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Eric Trump
I was the guy that got the call. They were. They were at the front gate, which is right over here, and I get a call from one of our team members, FBI. They're here with a search warrant. They're demanding that you turn off all security cameras. Now, obviously, you have a lot of security cameras of property like this, right? Because it's commercial property, and you have to. And I'm not turning off cameras. No, no. No way. That's a no. And they came in here and remember, they did. On behalf of nara, which is National Archives. And no one actually believes that NARA want to raid Mar Lago, Right? Like. And NARA is like a glorified library. And. And that's why they said that was their justification to raiding the president's house. So they raided my father's room. They raided Melania's closet. They raided Baron's room. They went through all their stuff. And, you know, and then we found out that they were planting classified folders in my father's office on this property. And that's been proven. Oh, yeah. So. So the judge in the case is this amazing woman named Eileen Cannon. She. I mean, he admitted. Jack Smith, admitted to her that they brought classified folders into Mar A Lago, placed them on the floor. Those were the same pictures that you saw on, you know, the FOX and CNN every single night, right? Where Just classified folders. And that's when they said that he had taken classified information. They planted all that here. These are the dirtiest bastards you could ever possibly imagine.
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Kyle
So who was behind that?
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Eric Trump
Biden and Obama and all the Democrats who. Listen, remember, go back to 2022. It was roughly the same time you were here. As you said, economy sucked, inflation was. Was rampant. Biden couldn't get through a sentence without stumbling. You know, inflation was literally 10%. Right? You had Pete Buttigieg, who. Who. You had every shelf of every Home Depot in this country that was empty. Every, you know, shelf of every Walmart during the holidays was empty. You couldn't get presents for your kids. You couldn't get a 2x4. Right. Pete Buttigieg, who was Transportation Secretary, was literally on paternity leave because why wouldn't you take paternity leave when in the middle of a freaking crisis, Right? Nothing was going well for these guys. And so what? What do they want? And they knew that. That Donald Trump was gaining power. Right. They knew that people were sick and tired of what they were seeing. And so they say, on behalf of nara, we want to raid your house. But there's no different than the 120, you know, 112 subpoenas, to be exact, that I got. They indicted my father 91 times. They took the mug shots. They impeached him twice. They took him off of every social media channel, you know, every judge in this country, put gag orders on him every single day. They made up the Russia hoax. They made up the dirty dossiers. I mean, guys, they did everything they could to try and destroy him. They tried to destroy our. Our company. They tried to debank us. They, you know, I mean, they got every financial institution to effectively cancel us. We were like Cancer Culture before Cancel Culture existed. I mean, we're the most canceled people ever. The IRS was leaking our tax returns. I mean, I could go on for hours.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
But it seems weird that they would request you to cut security cameras and assume that you guys would comply to that.
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Eric Trump
Yeah, it's kind of bizarre, right? Yeah.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
You're immediately going to say no, and then what do they say to that?
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Eric Trump
I bet they do that all the time. And I. I bet people are probably.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Who might do it.
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Eric Trump
Yeah, I bet they were probably sheep. All right. Yeah. And by the way, I asked them, I go, hey, I. I have a lawyer that lives right down the road. Can. Can you just wait five minutes? She'll be here in five minutes. At least she can observe whatever the hell you guys are going to do. Absolutely not. They made her wait outside the front gate. You know, so, guys, it's crazy, but, like, you know, this was the same group that spied on the campaign, you know, and my father said it. He was on 16 minutes. He was like, they're spying on my campaign, Leslie. She goes, you have no proof of that. And sure enough, they were spying on his campaign under last administration. Guys, they were. They were dirty bastards. They were corrupt as hell.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
What do you do in a moment like that when everyone's just going through here? I mean, you're obviously frustrated, but how do you control yourself?
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Eric Trump
You know what? Honestly, we became so desensitized to it. I know that sounds, like, bizarre. I had gotten so, again, I became the most appenant person in American history. And I never got like, you know, I've been a pretty good kid overall. Never, never got in trouble. And, man, they came after, right, Because I didn't have the executive, you know, branch protections, obviously, that my father had, and I was running the entire company. And so they came after us, like. But honestly, I think we were numb to the BS at that point. And so it was, no, we're not shutting off the security cameras. And I called my father, I asked him, I go, did anybody mention it to my father? And everybody said, no. So I go, I'll call him now. We'll take care of it. And 20 minutes later, we wrote that tweet, you'll probably remember it, which is, they're raiding the famous Mar a Lago. This invasion of my home. This is just another way that they're attacking me. It was kind of famous tweet. And then for weeks on end, you had the helicopters that were circling overhead, know, in the pictures of the front gate right down here. But no, never, never in my wildest dream would I have, you know, And. And by the way, again, they said that they did it on behalf of the National Archives. No one actually believes that you would raid a former president's house on behalf of the National Archives.
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Kyle
It's.
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Eric Trump
It's insane. I mean, it's insane.
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Kyle
Is that, like, the craziest thing that's. That's ever happened? You must have had so much crazy moments when. When your father switched to politics. Yeah. Too.
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Eric Trump
It's kind of interesting is in. In 2016, right. You had the New York Times and everybody else saying that we had zero chance of winning. They gave us a 2% chance, election day, of. Of winning. Right. And so they didn't really ramp up the games because they had so, like, so little kind of hubris. Like, they. They legitimately thought that. That they were winning and they had spared in the American people. They had the entire mainstream media behind them. They're touting their message all day long. And it was only when my father really. I mean, obviously, as soon as he got into office, they started going after him viciously because they want to do anything they could to undermine his presidency and his message and everything else. But then really, in 2020, when they realized that he could run again and he could win, that's when they. They. I mean, that's when they put their corruption on steroids, and that's when they went after him, like, you know, beyond viciously.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
You have to remind me what setting this one is, but one of my favorite clips of your dad, he's. I can't remember where he is, but he's on stage and he points out People.
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Eric Trump
Yeah.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
He goes, he used to support me before this. You used to support me before.
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Eric Trump
Where was that? Was the Al Smith dinner in New York.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
And who did he call it specifically? Do you remember?
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Eric Trump
Yeah, yeah. So Schumer was one of them. Yeah, Hillary was one of them. So Al Smith is this like famous charitable dinner, right? And, and pretty much traditionally every Republican and Democrat gets together to go to this House Smith dinner. It's, you know, it's kind of a Catholic dinner. And they've been doing it for, for the last hundred years and they were there. And he looks at Chuck Schumer, he goes, you used to support me. You'd invite me to your house, you tell me that, you know, I was your best friend. I'd give you a check every single time. And the second I came down that escalator, all of a sudden I became this no good dirty scoundrel, you know, and, and, and, and I'm the worst thing that's ever happened to the world. You know, it's really interesting. And I remember all those people. I mean, I posted a picture two days ago when we're, you know, we're in the White House with, with Hillary Clinton. I'm, I'm like 7 years old. I've got the greatest like hockey mullet you've ever seen your entire life. And I mean, she was at my father's wedding. She was kissing his ass every single day. I mean these politicians loved him.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Wasn't he at Bill and Hillary's wedding?
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Eric Trump
Yeah, and they were, and they were at his, all these guys were right. And, and then they were, you know, they were kissing his ass every single day. They were writing, asking him to write every check imaginable. And then sure enough, you know, he puts the R at the end of his political affiliation and, and, and they, they detest him. Minute one, second one.
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Kyle
Do you have any memories of the Clintons before? Like before when you were younger?
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Eric Trump
Well, Bill. So Bill used to come over the golf course and I don't think I'm breaking news, but he loved women. I mean, I love women. We had, we had a good looking golf pro who worked at the property and he would get lessons from her every single week. And, and, but he was like, he was, you know, Bill was always a, a good guys guy. I never had any animosity against Bill or I had a lot of an, against her. I mean, you know, you know, to make up a dirty dossier.
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Kyle
He probably does too, right?
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Eric Trump
I think more, more than like history would, would probably say he wasn't a huge fan.
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Kyle
Yeah.
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Eric Trump
You know, when, when you have somebody that pays for a dossier about your father, think about golden shower, right? Like this. This is what they had. This is all made up. Yeah. Golden showers, prostitution, all sorts of crap, you know, and she pays for it to get herself an extra, what, three votes? Guys, that's pretty dirty crap. Like, you know, like, we live in a. We live in a, a big crazy world in terms of, you know, real estate industries cut through, you know, the, the business communities, cutthroat. This wouldn't even like. This wouldn't even, like, cross people's minds to do this in, in normal, you know, it's only a politician who could come up with this crap. This October Surprise, right? That's what they call it. They call it an October Surprise. So it's something that's so damaging that burns you in the polls right before an election. They want to pop it late, right? Because they want to do maximum damage, but they don't want to give you enough time to be able to disprove it. Right. And that's their definition of an October Surprise. The dirty dossier was their October Surprise, the Russia collusion, which was. I was the guy that got the call from the FBI saying, I hear you have secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower communicating directly with the Kremlin. I go, we don't have. First of all, we're like, largely like cloud based computing, so we don't really have servers. Right. Second of all is you don't put servers in basements because basements flood and it's kind of idiotic. Third of all, you know, we hardly know what a delegate is. We hardly know what the Iowa caucuses are like. We're not smart enough to communicate with, with the Kremlin. Like, in terms of effectuating a. It was all bs, right? But that was their October Surprise. That's. That's how dirty the game is. And it's funny, you know, as a family who didn't come out of politics, we knew nothing about it. You know, great developers, we couldn't believe some of the crap that we saw. I mean, it would be like somebody would suggest something like that. If they were smart enough to suggest one of these, and you'd look at them be like, that's vindictive, nasty, horrible, and probably defies all morals and ethics and everything else. You just wouldn't do it. But that is the political game in this country.
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Kyle
What do you think about Kamala and her book and her saying that she. Does she want to run again. Does she actually saying that?
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Eric Trump
Well, first of all, I think she's crazy as hell, right? I mean, she said it was the closest election in American history. I think, I think Al Gore would probably. Right. The Bush v. Gore years would, would probably. Yeah. What was that? 537 votes or whatever election at all. There's nothing close about it, man. We won every swing state. We won every state in the country. Tacked to the right. We won the popular vote. Counties, 11 counties in California that had never been won by a conservative. Or I mean, Miami Dade, right? We won Miami Dade. It hasn't been won by a Republican in 37 years. We won Miami Dade by 11 points, right?
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Kyle
Really?
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Eric Trump
37 years, 37 years since it's been run by a Republican and we won by 11 points. And by the way, that's Miami Dade, right? So this is a great melting pot of every nationality, every age group, every community. And she was running around saying it's a slow selection and wasn't slow selection. She got lambasted. She got absolutely crushed. I mean, in every swing state and every quantify. But whatever made sense to me is you take the person who was the first out of the primaries in 2020, remember, she ran against Joe Biden. She was the first to drop out because she had zero support. Then he picks her because of dei and I tend to depolitics she was not the best candidate. But he, he picked her to be on the ticket, right? So then she's on the ticket. Then she forces him out, right? And immediately she has all the delegates. She has 2400 delegates lined up. And the next day she's the Democratic nominee for president, United States. Like, what, What's Democratic about that process?
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Kyle
They up so big and they pissed everybody off.
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Eric Trump
Like, wouldn't you think that the very people who have to go out to the polls should probably be the person who's going to pick the, you know, the actual candidate. But they totally subverted that whole process.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
I mean, the Democratic Party in a whole just seems like it's in complete sham. Schools even talking about like New York, what's going on.
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Kyle
That's tomorrow, right?
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Eric Trump
Well, look at Mondami, right? So first of all, he hates cops. You know, he says he's going to arrest Netanyahu, so he hates the Jews. He says that Modi is a war criminal, so he hates the, the Indian population. And he wants to nationalize grocery stores, you know, other than that. And he wants to increase your taxes, like dramatically, right? Yeah.
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Kyle
Defund the police. Is the dumbest thing of all time is that's the dumbest thing.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
He has everyone support. And I'm trying to. Where, like, how is he gaining so much support?
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Eric Trump
You know? Why?
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Average New Yorker, first of all, he's got.
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Eric Trump
He's got a great line of. Right? I mean, make no mistake. He's, you know, people are like, oh, he's not a good politician. No, he's a really good politician, right? He's got a great line of shit. Second of all, he goes out and he promises free stuff for everybody. You know the problem. So. So we're in Florida, obviously, right now, right? Ron DeSantis is literally going out right now saying, hey, I'm going to eliminate all property taxes in the state of Florida. And you know why he's able to do that? Because everybody from New York has moved to Florida, and all the wealth of New York has come to Florida, and they have such a surplus in their budget that they don't need people to pay property taxes. It's literally going to pass, right? They're gonna put it through the legislation, you know, versus New York, where you have a guy going out there saying, we're going to increase taxes on the few remaining people. And guess what? You know where they're gonna come? They're gonna come to Florida. So they're just gonna put New York in an awful financial deficit. Like, New York is an unstopped. It's the greatest city in the world. It's an unstoppable city.
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Kyle
Great city.
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Eric Trump
You know, clean streets, safe streets, and just have reasonable taxation and get the. Get the f out of the way, and New York will be unstoppable anywhere in the world. Right? I mean, we've got the best entrepreneurs in the world. We've got the best business leaders in the world. We've got Wall Street. We've got the US Dollar, which is the strongest currency in the world by far. You know, we can do it better than anybody. Just get the hell out of the way and stop being so punitive. But, you know, we're going to nationalize grocery stores. Like, you know, you've got some of the greatest entrepreneurs in the. In. In the. In the world who have tried getting into the GR and they fail, right? You have spoiled it. You have inventory problems. It's. It's. It's heavy real estate. It's high taxation. You've got a loss factor based on theft, especially in. In New York, they can't get them to work. But yet, Madame vis a vis City hall, some. You know, some Some politician who's never ran a business in their life, never signed the front of a check is, is all all of a sudden going, going to go up against Gris or, or Dagostinos or Whole Foods. Like, like, give me a break. Like this isn't going to work.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
I find it interesting that clip where, you know, it's recently there's two actually there's one where his aunt after 911 being afraid to be on the, the subway, which didn't turn out to be completely true. And then the second thing is, I don't know if you saw recently he was going to like the gay clubs around New York gaining their support and then this photo leaked of him with this lady Rebecca from Uganda who literally says homosexuals should be imprisoned for life. And he has this photo with her around his arm.
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Eric Trump
Sure.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
So it's just like, you know why?
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Eric Trump
Because they're all hypocrites.
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Kyle
They don't know what they actually believe.
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Eric Trump
No, they don't. They don't know what the hell.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
But I'm wondering like, do people not see this or like it doesn't, I'm just trying figure out if you see that. Doesn't that make you think for a second this guy's like kind of full of.
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Eric Trump
Listen, I certainly think he's, he's full of crap. I, I think it's deeply scary when you have one of the largest city. I mean he's in charge of like 300,000 employees. Right. When you look at the city of New York, I mean just the NYPD is roughly 30,000 cops. That's just the NYPD. That's before you know, all the rest of the government agencies. Like what has the guy done? Like he was like a community organizer. Is that a little scary? You know Bloomberg, guess what? He ran one of the biggest companies, built one of the biggest companies. Right. Like you, you go back over the course of, of New York, you had some real. Look how great of a leader Giuliani was and what he did. I mean Giuliani single handedly turned around New York. I, it's just, it's scary as hell when you see a guy who comes out and says, listen, I'm going to arrest Netanyahu if he ever comes into the U. N for, you know, into New York for the UN General Assembly. You're saying, they're saying, you know, you're just gonna not have world leaders come through New York now. Like they'll come through New York, they're gonna go somewhere else. And, and that's a Damn shame for this country.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
What do you think will happen if he does win?
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Eric Trump
Oftentimes, I always wonder whether or not these people are bravado or not. And we've seen it both ways. We saw Letitia James, the attorney general, right, who always. She campaigned on the promise of going after Donald Trump and taking him down and taking down our entire family. Really interesting. She dug so deep that she ended up finding herself. But in her case, it wasn't bravado. She actually did it. There's other people who run on the bravado, and they'll get in and kind of drop the political nonsense and stop playing the game. And I don't know, man, this guy's crazy as hell. And I love New York. I mean, I grew up there. I run a lot of properties there. It breaks my heart to see that happen to the city. What's the biggest lesson your dad has taught you about business? Work your ass off. You know, you. You have to. You have to work hard. You have to believe, you know, you better love whatever you do. It's, you know, if you don't love it, you can't do it. If you don't love it, you can't put in the hours, you're not going to travel the miles, you're not going to put in the effort, you're not going to. Right. You have to love it. You have to be damn determined. So. So it's, it's energy, it's work ethic. I mean, you've got to obviously be smart. You know, you're probably not going to win the race if. If you're not good at what you. You ultimately do. But I don't think anybody's ever been successful. I mean, look at the greatest entrepreneurs in the world. Like, do you think Elon Musk likes, like, space? Silly question, but obviously he does. Do you think Elon Musk likes technology? Silly question, but obviously he loves it and he embraces it and he dreams about it. And, and guess what? That's why he's created some of the greatest space companies. And that's why he's created, you know, Tesla, you know, so on. Do you think Jeff Bezos liked E Commerce? Well, no question he liked E Commerce. And. And these are also people who are all disruptors. Name a person who's really, really good at something. Do you think Tom Brady like throwing a football? Do you think Michael Jordan likes, you know, shooting hoops? Of course they did.
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Kyle
Like, we like drinking. That's why we started happy.
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Eric Trump
Exactly. You're going to have the greatest freaking alcohol company. Because you really like drinking. No, but you better have. Damn, you better have passion. Because, you know, if Michael Jordan didn't have passion, guess what? He was probably wouldn't have spent the three hours a day shooting free throws, right? Like, he just wouldn't have done it. And guess what? He probably wouldn't have put up the stats he did in his career. If Jess Bezos wasn't damn good at, you know, ecom, there's no way that, you know. And by the way, he learned a lot along the way because he wrote the whole playbook for it. So he was a hell of an entrepreneur. But you better love what you do and you better work damn hard at it, because if you're not working at it, somebody else will be.
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Kyle
So why the book now and what's. What it's about?
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Eric Trump
Listen, I had to tell the story because, honestly, it was like the ultimate weaponization of government, you know, with revisionist history and everything that they're doing. Like, I didn't want to fade into oblivion. I mean, we're the most attacked family, but they attacked us because they want to attack a movement. They wanted to take down Make America Great again. So, you know, when they were silencing us, they sure sell silence, you guys, for a lot of things you said, right?
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Kyle
Like, well, they deleted our episode with President Trump, right?
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Eric Trump
They told my wife, who. Who has a podcast. They told Laura Trump that if you put anything. You mentioned Donald Trump, and this is an email from YouTube, right? You mentioned anything. We're going to pull your. Your whole year. We're going to pull your entire channel, right? And they've done to your friends, too, right? You know, a lot of these people. So they were silencing us. They were gag ordering us. They were canceling us. They were trying to bankrupt us. They were trying to, you know, divide the family. They were subpoenaing Again, like 112 subpoenas. I became the most painful person in American history for doing nothing freaking wrong. They tried to kill my father twice. They killed my friend Charlie Kirk, right? They impeached my father twice. They went after Supreme Court justices like they were dogs. They made up stories that he liked to drink, you know, beer. Guy had like two beers in high school, and they went after him like he's some serial killer, right? You know, they wanted. They made up the dossiers that we talked about. They were raiding our homes. They were leaking our tax returns. I mean, it's. The irs literally leaked every single one of my father's Tax returns for a 15 year period of time. They did the same to me, they did the same to Don, they did the same to 91 corporate employees, just leaked them to the New York Times. I mean, they did everything they possibly could to try and destroy us, to take away our voice and, and ultimately to kill all of us. And, and the story had to old and you know, the coolest part of the whole story is we freaking won, guys. We, we beat these guys, we beat the mainstream media. That's dead. And the media is dead because of you guys. Let's just be honest. The media is dead because of independent voice in this country. Like, you take the, you guys, you take, you know, the Rogans, ptd, you know, Patrick Bet David, who's, who's a dear friend of mine. And obviously I think you guys have been on the show before and all of a sudden NBC and abc, you know, they've been replaced. They've been replaced by independent voice in this country. And I think that's a beautiful thing. But it's a story about not only what we went through, not just we as a family, but we as a country, but also how we won. And the ironic part of the whole story is we sold more books times like 10 than anybody last week. So we won number one New York Times bestseller. You know how much they didn't want to give me number one New York Times bestseller, considering three quarters of the book was how they were the crux of just about all of the problems that happened in this country and how they got all of it wrong and how they were frankly complaining implicit in this entire fight. It's a, it's great irony. It's kind of, kind of shocking that they gave it to me. If you want to be the go and know the truth.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Talking about the new new wave of media, a lot of these like podcasters had your father on when he was running. And it seems like a lot of them have kind of switched their opinion on him. I don't know if you've noticed that. How does that make you feel?
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Eric Trump
Because they demonize the hell out of him, right? That was the entire playbook of the, of the Democrats, you know, demonized Donald Trump. Do you remember Hillary was running around back in like the early campaigns and you know, Donald Trump should not have his finger on the nuclear button. You know, isn't like the irony today that, that Donald Trump is the one person who's never started a war, he's never brought our country to war. You know, he's in fact he's been like the greatest peace president in history. He's, I mean, I was there when he, when he solved the, the Cambodian, you know, the Cambodian war. Look what he did with India and Pakistan. Yeah, he would have had millions of dead people, two nuclear superpowers. He would have had millions of people. Look how hard he fought to create Middle east peace, which he got done. Look how hard he's fought to end this, this conf, Russia and Ukraine. And yet you had Hillary Clinton running all over the place saying, you know, Donald Trump is very unstable, he can't put his finger on the nuclear button. Like the, the problem is they would label you. And the mainstream media in this country was effectively just the PR arm of the Democratic Party. And so they would just amplify that message over and over and over. What happened is they kept on amplifying the message and they kept on being proven wrong. They got proven wrong with the dirty Aussie, they got proven wrong with impeachment one, impeachment two, you know, the Russia hoax, so on and so forth, and, and there's only so many times you can cry wolf before people start calling your bs and that's exactly what America did. And so what did they do? They start turning off cnn, which has like the lowest ratings they've ever had. And CNN used to be like the most respected channel on earth, you know, now you'll have like 300, 000 people tune in on a, on a Wednesday night at 9 o'. Clock. Don't watch this crap anymore, and then compare their ratings to the ratings you do when you launch this podcast tomorrow, the next day, right? You'll 10x them.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Yeah.
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Eric Trump
And what do we have? We have what, three cameras here and a couple microphones and a couple guys sitting there with, with alcohol bottles chilling out and bullshitting.
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Kyle
That's crazy.
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Eric Trump
Right? And by the way, and then I want you to go to CNN in Atlanta and look at their headquarters. Tens and tens and tens of thousands of square feet, thousands of people, parking decks this and that, massive satellites on the roof. Go, go to AOL Time Warner in Columbus Circle in New York, right? Fifteen floors of the nice building you've ever seen, you know, reporters this and that, and you guys are smoking them in terms of ratings. Who's winning that battle? You guys? But beyond that, it's America that's winning it now, right? Because they don't need to turn it and tune into the, the BS that's being fed to them by some, you know, corporate. I mean, the stories are nonsensical the stories are not. I was the guy that got 112 subpoenas for not doing anything wrong. Yet Hunter Biden had a laptop of hookers, you know, illicit drug use, you know, shady ass deals all over the world. And I'm the guy that's getting the subpoenas, you know, and, and to cnn. The guy like walked on water. I mean, America didn't buy it.
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Kyle
And you ever had an interaction with Hunter Biden?
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Eric Trump
You know what? I haven't. Sounds like, Sounds like a good guy to drink.
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Kyle
Yeah, he'd probably be a good guy to party with.
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Eric Trump
Right? Sounds like, sounds like a fun. I mean, maybe, I don't know, not a perfect representation of our country, but maybe cut it off at like 12.
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Kyle
Like not too late.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Yeah.
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Eric Trump
Has there ever been a time you disagreed on something your dad has done as president? I think he's been be like beyond reasonable. I think there are times where I probably would have gone farther, you know, in certain things. And, and, and he's been very, very controlled. I think one thing that I rally on kind of a lot was the whole Butler situation. I'm wholly unsatisfied with what happened there, and I'm wholly unsatisfied with what the American people know about the guy who tried to blow my father's face off. I'm a competitive shooter, shot competitively my entire life. 130 yard shot with a modern rifle, modern optics, from a rooftop is a chip shot. Shouldn't be here. And we know nothing about this freaking kid. We see one picture of him, he's like 13 years old. He looks like a nice, innocent, prepubescent boy. We don't know a damn thing about him. He got cremated like six days later. Right. And no, I'm wholly unsatisfied with that. And listen, my father's been remarkably calm and has said publicly that he's satisfied. I think there's a lot of things that go into that statement that obviously we don't need to contend with as a general public, national security and other things. And a guy who's responsible to, for bringing calm to a country right after kind of horrible incident. But no, I'm not satisfied at all. I want to know exactly who this guy is. They got into every phone of every January 6th protester, every grandmother that walked through the capitol and took a selfie, but they couldn't get into this guy's multiple phones. I'm wholly unsatisfied as to who this guy was, how he got there, what the hell he was doing. And I think this country is too.
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Kyle
I mean, isn't it impossible for him to be acting alone?
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Eric Trump
One freaking picture. I mean, who in the day of. Of smartphones, who in the day of. Of one of these things has one picture of them out there? I mean, it's. It's insane, you know, and this country is pissed off, and I'm. As a son, I'm really pissed off, and I want to know more. So if there's one thing I disagree with him on, I. I do so incredibly respectfully. He's doing it for different reasons than I am, but I want to know who the hell this person is.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
You also are very emotional about us, your father, at the end of the day, too.
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Eric Trump
Yeah. And I want to know who can. The damn kid was right. Like. Like, I want to know who this kid was. And it's been. It's been way too quiet, Way too quiet about it. And again, I'm glad. I'm glad he's been as calm as he was, because I think there's a different scenario there where it could have gone very differently. But. But I think this country deserves to know who the. Shoot.
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Kyle
Let's get back into the pot.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
How do you feel about something your. Your dad always does? I find it pretty funny, but a lot of people don't. Like, after the no Kings rally, he posted that AI video of him flying the plane and dropping feces on the rally. It pisses a lot of people off.
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Eric Trump
But how do you feel about it? Honestly, at this point, like, I'm so happy. I don't put a whole lot of time into Halloween anymore. So I have two young kids, two beautiful kids, six and eight. They die for trick or treating. Like all they want to do. And so I look at my wife, I go, I literally have nothing. She's like, Luke had a little crown that somebody gave him. So I literally took this crown and I wore it as Halloween. So I became the king and I just did it to trigger these people. And I think that's point. It's kind of funny to trigger them. I was one that created that Trump 20, 28 hat. I'm not sure if you saw that. Yeah, I'm in my office one day, I put on the Trump 2828 hat. And dude, the, the media starts freaking melting down. I start getting emails, Bloomberg and all these people like, does this mean that your father is going to subvert the constitution and run again? And I'm literally just snapping like pictures of these on my phone and I'm just throwing them up on Instagram on my story, just like trolling them, you know, and it's. No, I think they deserve to be trolled, honestly. They're so dishonest. And I think being able to have a little bit of fun at. At their expense is, Is kind of cathartic for us at this point, if that makes sense.
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Kyle
The Meme team is incredible.
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Eric Trump
I, I literally think memes won. Won this election. And, and by the way, the Democrats can't meme. They, they have no freaking sense of humor. They're so backward in terms of every issue. We, we had like a, we had like a group that was the Meme Generals and it was just, just funny crap that was sent around all the time.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
What was our boy's name on a tick tock? Jack.
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Kyle
Yeah, we met him.
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Eric Trump
Yeah, Yeah, I mean, he did. He did a phenomenal job. I mean, he owned. He owned TikTok, right? Look at the social guys. We didn't have a damn choice. You know, they had a war chest. Hillary Clinton had a war chest of $1.5 billion. My father self funded his campaign. We were running at like a 5 to 1 deficit financially from, from Hillary Clinton. Like, if we didn't have personality, we weren't able to yell into a microphone, you know, fairly loudly. And if we weren't able to get a lot of free, like, you know, we called it earned media, but we got our media. She's going all the way all over the country trying to buy ads. In Pennsylvania, you come up with one meme. That meme is probably 10 times more valuable than any ad could ever be. Does that make sense?
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Nelk Boys Member 2
You're gonna hit a way bigger audience.
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Eric Trump
Totally.
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Kyle
Was there a singular moment in the election campaign that you think won it?
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Eric Trump
Yeah. Well, certainly when you got shot, right?
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Nelk Boys Member 2
I remember that.
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Kyle
I was like, wow.
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Eric Trump
It was strange for me because exactly 48 hours after that incident, after Butler, I was the delegate from the state of Florida that voted to. To make him effectively the Republican nominee. So he got over the threshold. It was like, you know, 1500 delegates or whatever the hell it was. And. And that was exactly 48 hours later. But, you know, certainly Butler and then. Certainly. But. But also, I'd say the mug shot was. Was a big one. It's just pissed off a lot of people. People are like, I don't like what they're doing to this freaking guy at all. Like, you know, this guy needs a mug shot. He's probably the most recognizable person in the entire world. He wears a suit around all day that has a red tie and just pretty recognizable freaking hair. This guy needs a mug shot. I don't like what they're doing to him. This looks like bs. I think the mug shot day was big. Couple of court days when he got charged with 34 felonies in New York, Pissed off the country. It's the first time an indictment actually got a politician at that point. He was a politician. But since when has indictments been good for a politician's career? And every single time my father got indicted, his. His poll numbers went up because, again, people were just. After Russia and after the impeachments and after Kavanaugh and all of bs, I think just people were reading through this, and it's just. Every single one of them just pissed people off more and more.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Do you see any negatives with this new wave of media? Because now pretty much anyone can have a platform. Anyone can say whatever they want. And it seems like even on the far right, the conspiracies, everything's going way crazier than it's ever been.
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Eric Trump
Listen, you know, kind of in life, I think the cream rises to the top up. And so, you know, listen, our country is grounded In a First Amendment, right? Well, it's First Amendment. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, like that is the bedrock of what makes America great. You're going to have some lunatic on both sides that says something crazy as hell. And guess what? They're gonna get tuned out. You know, there's Republicans who are big in 2016 who have been tuned out because they said stupid things. Right. And. And you have a lot of Democrats who. Who. Who were big and got tuned out for saying horribly stupid things. I mean, you had Jeffrey Toobin who was caught not, you know, yanking one out on cnn, who got tuned out because he did something incredibly stupid. Right. Those people are going to fall off, and you're going to have serious people, you know, who can have serious conversation, who have interesting guests, who are going to rise to the top and do incredibly well. And, and, And I like, isn't that how the process should be? It's almost like democratizing a message. You know, if you suck and you're not good and you're inappropriate and. And you bring a crappy message and. And one that's. That's radical. Well, guess what? You're probably not going to end up on the platforms, and you're probably not going to do well monetarily, and no one's going to work for you, and you're probably not going to find a manager, and you're probably not going to have good guests, and you'll probably fade into oblivion. Right. I mean, it's just kind of how life works, right? If you're not good at real estate, you're probably not going to own properties like this, and you're probably not going to manage them well, which means you're probably not going to have good members. And financially, you're going to go bust and you're going to fade into oblivion. I think that's the way the system was meant to. To. To work. Right. Versus, you know, censoring. I was just with Miranda Devine.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Yeah.
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Eric Trump
The. The Laptop from Hell story, you know, they came out and they censored it. They wouldn't let them publish it. Now, the Laptop from Hell story ended up being factually 100% accurate. But you had some group in social media that was controlled by the Democratic Party that came out and literally canceled everybody, anybody who would retweet that story. They were literally throwing them off of Facebook and Twitter. Like, that's not healthy. You know, let the facts speak for themselves and let people tune into what they want to hear. And if your voice is better than somebody else's, you know, congratulations, you win the race. How difficult is it for you to block out politics and focus purely on. On your business? You know what? I retired. I retired from politics. I know we've talked a lot about politics, but election day, I called up my father that morning. We still hadn't slept. We had just won. And I go, pops, I love you. You know, go to. Go to D.C. you're making me proud. And, you know, I'm going to continue to run the company. I'll make the family very. And we'll do great things and congrats, and there's no more plays left for us. We won the super bowl, and I'm honored to have been on that stage for the last 10 years. And what ends up happening is you have a lot of stuff that's outside your control that rolls down your plate because people want to use the political conversation and they want to try and interject that with a private property, with a private business. I wasn't subpoenaed because I had done anything wrong in business. I was subpoenaed because over and over and over again because they wanted to try and destroy my father and everything that he was trying to work for. Right? They wanted to try and destroy him. And, and so. So, you know, unfortunately, like, I wish the two could be a thousand percent divided. Unfortunately, they don't allow them to be divided. When they attack you, they're trying to attack. You know, they want to rip our name off of every building in New York. They wanted to destroy his wealth, they want to destroy his assets, they want to destroy his family. They wanted to just, you know, debank us in every way, shape or form. They wanted to curb our voice and our ability to be able to market ourselves. And. And so, unfortunately, all that stuff was rolling out of D.C. and I would have loved it not to have. I would have lived a hell of a lot better life had it not. But that was the game they wanted to play. So it was kind of hard to decouple the two as much as I wanted the two to be decoupled.
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Kyle
How many properties do you manage?
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Eric Trump
Oh, God, a lot, A lot. I mean, we've some of the biggest hotels in the world, some of the best residential buildings, commercial buildings, retail golf courses, properties like this. So in the hundreds. In the hundreds across the world, we're active in development and about 25 of them and, you know, depending how you'd find a property, but, you know, maybe 50, 60 very, very large properties, and then obviously a bunch of kind of, you Know, tangential assets out of there.
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Kyle
But when did you take over, like running all the properties?
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Eric Trump
So he came to me when I was 33 years old and, and he goes, honey, you know, I'd been in the company since I was, I want to say 11, but pretty much 11. I started on our construction sites and with our stone masons, our electricians.
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Kyle
Oh, we got to talk about that too. How'd you.
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Eric Trump
How'd I just, you know, he's one of these guys who just didn't believe in having. Giving kids free time nor money. You know, you want to go buy something, you wanted something, congratulations, go work and go buy it. And so like literally, I grew up doing demo. I grew up doing electrical work, H vac work. You know, I spent a summer cutting rebar with the settling torches, running excavators, chainsaws.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
And he's been trying to mount his TV for like the past.
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Eric Trump
I'll come out your TV for you, no problem.
- [37:53]
Nelk Boys Member 2
This is that hard, we can't get it done.
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Eric Trump
I can't tell you how many friends I have who can't mount a freaking TV on the wall. I'm sorry if I'm insulting you right now. Now in this whole process, I could do it.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
He's got 120 inch. It's a little heavy.
- [38:04]
Kyle
If you could help.
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Eric Trump
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. We'll give you the muscle. But, but at least if you can do it right. Most people, most people can't find the stud. And then once they hit the. Once they find the stud, half the wall's gone. They, they don't know what the hell to do with it. And they're trying to use sheetrock screws to Mount 120 inch TV.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Mr.
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Kyle
Fix it over here.
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Eric Trump
He was really, he was really great, right? It was, for him, it was always like, don't give a type. A kid made too much time or too much money. You know, there's no freaking Ferraris for us when we were 16 years old, right? And I listen, I had friends in my school that went down that road. And I can't tell you how many of them went to rehab. I can't tell you how many of them went down these, you know, terrible paths. It was sad. I mean, these people I loved, these are people who are friends and, you know, you wanted something, congratulations, go work for it, go buy it. And it did two things. It took up our time. So, you know, by the end of a workday, so I count four o' clock in the afternoon, you went you hopped on a construction site at 7, you're tired as hell. The last thing you want to do is go out and party. Second of all, you didn't want to spend your money. No disrespect, but you weren't spending your money if you're making 20 bucks a day buying booze when you're 14 years old. So you retired, you learned a skill and you understood the value of a dollar. And he was really adamant about that. But at 33, he came to me, he goes, honey, obviously I'm doing the D.C. thing. I want you to take over. You've built a lot of our properties, I built a lot of our buildings to that point point and you know, assembled a lot of our teams and you know, do, do a great job with it and, and I thought it was going to be kind of the easy road of, you know, go manage golf courses, go manage hotels, you know, difficult for some. But, you know, we had become very, very good at it. And I think 90 of my time, you know, those four year period was trying to keep the, the FBI, the DOJ, the subpoenas, the depositions, the lawfare, the debanking, trying to keep just a team intact. I mean, they did everything they could to, to extort our employees to try and turn against my father. I mean it was, it was, was the dirtiest kind of mob tactics I could have ever imagined. And it was coming out of the United States government.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Let's talk about, I mean, I thought we were doing okay, but Baron. Headlines are saying Baron's got a net worth of 150 million. I don't know how, what the truth is there, but it looks like he's doing pretty well.
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Eric Trump
So Baron fell in love with this. So, so, you know, part of gankind debanked. We fell in love with crypto, right? We kind of didn't have anywhere else to turn. And the very same people who were coming after us, we're going after the crypto guys. And we kind of realized how cool it was, how innovative it was and how it's really kind of the future of finance. And so we spun up a couple great companies. World Liberty, we have the fastest growing stablecoin on earth. I have a company called American Bitcoin abtc. We just listed on the NASDAQ the company's flying. It's awesome. We're having so much fun with it. But I became the biggest fan of bitcoin. I became the biggest believer in what it is, right? So something that, that can't be stolen from you, you know, isn't, isn't, you know, can't be burned, can't be destroyed in a flood or. It's kind of like the greatest hedge against real estate. But, but also, you know, look at the corruption all over the world. We saw a lot of it here in America, but just look at the corruption, which is far worse all over the world. You know, imagine living in, you know, you, you pick, you know, you know, pick, pick the country, pick some African nation, pick some South American nation, bad rule of law, corrupt governments. You know what you have, right? And so now all of a sudden you have stable coins where anybody on earth, if they have a cell phone, they can, they can be on the US dollar. You know, imagine Zimbabwe, where you have 10,000% inflation a year. You get your paycheck and you may as well just freaking burn it, right? Because it's the value of, it's gone. The day after you earn the money now all of a sudden you can take that, you can either invest in stable coins, you can invest in Bitcoin, you can invest in other stores of value. You don't need banks, you don't need intermediaries, you can't be canceled. You can't be, it's cheaper, it's be sent anywhere around the world, you know, very small transaction fees.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Say for, I guess, the younger, I, we'll just say like ages 18 to 25. Yeah, they should be studying crypto.
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Eric Trump
Like, yeah, 100%. Listen, if you look back in 10 years, do not think that the modern financial system will, and I say modern will, will run the way the modern financial system is, is currently running right now. You know, why is it you can't send a wire past 5 o' clock on a Friday afternoon? It's a freaking joke. Guys like you can send a, a Venmo to your buddies, you know, you know, at, at one o' clock in the morning on a, on, on a Sunday morning. But yet, you know, bank to bank, you can't send a wire transfer past 5 o'.
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Nelk Boys Member 1
Clock.
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Eric Trump
You know, if you don't get it out by 5 o', clock, it, you know, what hits Monday afternoon. And if the big banks love that, you know, why they want to see, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars tied up over a weekend where they can gain interest on your money, you know, as it sits there in purgatory. They're not exactly, you know, they're not exactly running to fix this problem. There's nothing that can't be done by the big banks. It can't be done better, faster, cheaper, more transparently by cryptocurrency. So mark my word, if you look back in five years, if you look back in 10 years, the financial system will be very, very, very different. Tokenization of assets will be huge. Tokenization of commodities will be huge. Even down to the tokenization of assets. So Taylor Swift comes out with an album. Like her or not, she's got a massive fan base. Why can't she go out, take her album and say, listen, I'm not going to go out to Paramount Records, I'm not going out to one of these companies, Swifty fans. I'm going to put, you know, who, who wants a token of Taylor Swift? You know it's going to cost you 500 bucks. Go sell 2 million of them, go sell 20 million of them and in perpetuity you get 70% of the profits generated off of my album. You'll have every, you'll have every Swifty fan go out there and do that, right? So you're going to have tokenization of, of real world assets, you're going to have tokenization of art, you're going to have tokenization of artists, you're going to have tokenization of Hollywood. It's coming guys. It's, it's, it's, it's here. And on the stablecoin front, which is just the digital US dollar in most cases, right? Stable coins can be, but you're going to bring hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions, trillions of dollars. Everybody wants the US dollar, no one wants the euro, no one wants the pound, no one wants any other form of currency. You're going to bring hundreds of billions of dollars onto US shores, which is wonderful for our financial system.
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Kyle
What do your companies do in crypto?
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Eric Trump
Yeah, so I have one company called American Bitcoin, that's one that we just listed. And we mine bitcoin every day. So we're mining bitcoin on average of about 50 cents on the dollar to what bitcoin's trading. So right now bitcoin's about 110,000. We're mining it every single day for roughly 50 cents on the dollar to that. And so what we do is we mine and we accumulate. And I really believe bitcoin has been maybe the greatest asset in the last decade. It's gone up on average 70% a year over year for the last 10 year period of time. There's no asset that's outperformed it. And so I really believe in that on one side. So bitcoin Think of bitcoin as the digital gold. And then we have a company called World Liberty Financial and we have the fastest growing stablecoin. So again, Stablecoin kind of defined as the US dollar digitized, that's backed one to one on US Treasuries. And I think that's really going to be the oil by which the whole system works, or so much of the system works, meaning you want to make a payment, you want to buy a watch from your friend, and they're in a different country. You can send wallet to wallet instantaneously for virtually no fees. Try and go do that through JP Morgan. Good luck. It's going to get there three weeks later and you're going to have 70% of your money because, you know, because of fees and expenses and everything else.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
How many people tell you, or do you think that come to you for crypto advice? They're afraid because bitcoin's already at 110,000. So it's too late.
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Kyle
You think it's gonna hit a million? I saw, right?
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Eric Trump
I do, I do, yeah. Listen, it's gonna be a number of years before it does. But, but no, I, I absolutely do. First of all, the biggest families want it. The biggest private wealth funds want it. Fortune 500 companies are treasuring it every single day. There, there's, people are hoarding bitcoin. I mean, there, there are major nations out there. They take all their extra energy energy and use that to mine bitcoin. And so it's becoming truly a world class asset right now. All of a sudden. You can also buy in your equity markets. You can buy it as far as ETFs, you can buy it as part of your 401s, your Roth IRAs. And so it's incredibly valuable. But people were saying that to me. I was telling people, buy BTC at 50,000 bucks. Eric, it's too expensive. It's at 50,000. I'm going to wait till it comes down. That hits 80,000. Buy Bitcoin. No, it's 80,000 is way too expensive. Then all of a sudden it hits 100,000. Buy Bitcoin. No, it's too right. And then it hits 125,000. It's like, guys, I don't know how many more times I can say to you, like, you know, I think it's going to continue to rip. I think it's gonna do really well. And I am, I am all in. And I've never been more proud of this company. American bitcoin is like, it's It's. It's an awesome, awesome venture.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
I'm pretty sure there was. I think it was. Odell Beckham Jr. Took his whole paycheck in bitcoin.
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Eric Trump
Yeah. And he made a. Tristan Thompson did as well, who's become a good buddy of mine and made an absolute fortune. How can you.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
How do you go about that? Like, how can you request that you want to get paid?
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Eric Trump
I mean, he did it through, I guess, the team and his contract. But, but. But some. A lot of companies are now starting to offer that. How would you like to get paid? Do you want to get paid through btc? Do you want to get paid through the US Dollar? And so you've had a lot of people put in those requests, and those people made an absolute fortune. They made 30 million bucks. But congratulations, that 30 million bucks went up 6x in the period of time they took their contract. So their 30 million bucks just became damn near 200 in that same period of time, all because they took an appreciating asset. And so, again, there's no asset that's appreciated faster than bitcoin has. And think about bitcoin, right? There's only 21 million. That's kind of the beautiful thing. There's no asset in the world that has finite scarcity, no commodity. So if the price of gold ever got to $10 million an ounce, you'd probably break down the column right there, and we'd be able to extract gold from the concrete that made up that column. The higher the price of any commodity goes, the more money you can put into mining more of the it. So you're actually just increasing supply. Bitcoin's capped at 21 million. It will always be 21 million. There will never be another bitcoin created. And so it really creates massive compression. Then you take an asset that's 24 hours a day, global, not susceptible to any government, decentralized, not prone to bad management. I mean, you buy into a hotel company and it's poorly managed, you're going to lose money. There is no management. There's no fraud. There's no. No abuse. Go try and travel. Go buy five bars of gold and try and travel to Europe with them. You're going to get stopped by TSA and they're going to report you to the IRS for trying to carry your own asset. You can bring that money anywhere in the world, anytime.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Do you have any theory on the founder that no one seems to know who he is or where he actually came from or anything?
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Eric Trump
Yeah, I'VE got some theories, I've got some theories, but the premise of this is the whole system is genius. Right? You're using massive compute power to otherwise kind of protect a financial system of an asset that's beyond scarce, that everybody wants, that's global and solves all the problems that I mentioned before. Again, you want to buy something? You could send me a million dollars worth of Bitcoin right now. It could hit my wallet in three seconds. And you practically pay zero fees. Tell me that every financial institution in the world isn't pissed off about that. They want to extract the fees. They want as many middlemen as humanly possible because that's what keeps their 70 story buildings lit and alive and their CEOs making hundreds of millions of dollars a year. You're pretty much bypassing all of them. And I think it's a great thing in terms of financial democracy, I think that's a really, really good thing for humanity. It gives people financial freedoms that they could never otherwise have. Guess who does best with financial institutions? Guys like us. Right. Because we've got a lot of properties and aside from the debanking based on politics, you know, we have leverage because we have size. Guess who doesn't have leverage?
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Nelk Boys Member 2
People that don't have properties.
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Eric Trump
You know, the mom and pop, the, you know, the young student, the this and that. They have no leverage over a JP Morgan or one of these big banks. Right? Right. All of a sudden, crypto gives them financial freedoms that they've never had before. And it's one of the, it's one of the reasons I'm really, I really believe in its entire ethos.
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Kyle
Do you think it ever completely takes over?
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Eric Trump
Yeah, well, I mean, I think you're already, already seeing it in so many ways. I mean, stable coins are rock and rolling. I think what's going to happen is you're going to stop seeing trade settled vis a vis swift. And I think you're going to start seeing trades, all trades settled vis a vis stable coins. Trade settled instantaneously. There's no waiting on a Saturday and Sunday for your money. You're going to get it all instantaneous. So I think finances can become a lot faster. There's no reason, if you want to go buy a house, you should be waiting 120 days to go through a near your customer to be able to. That doesn't make any sense. Like, you have the asset, you want to go buy a house, it's your damn money. You should be able to go buy the house tomorrow. Right. And Crypto allows you to do that using blockchain technology. You know, it lets you borrow against your assets instantaneously. And guess what? If it goes down, it will liquidate a portion of it to cover the margin calls, right? And if it goes up, how many people have borrowed against Bitcoin, where you have an asset that's gone up, on average, 70% a year. So it's going like this. They borrow off of that. Say they borrow 50% off of that. So say you have a million bucks, you borrow 500,000 bucks off that, your Bitcoin's going up, you know, 70% percent a year, year over year, you know, and you're able to buy the house or invest in business or pursue your dreams or do whatever the hell you want. Right? And they can do that instantaneously without waiting for. Not. Not to be kind of crapping on a JP Morgan, but not. Not waiting for them to have some underwriter paper pusher and some skyscraper, you know, God knows where, you know, telling you whether or not you're qualified to use your own money to buy an asset or invest in a business that you want to. Otherwise, I mean, guys, it really is financial freedom. So. So, yes, I. I think sooner rather than later. I think you're already seeing it. You're seeing it a major way, and America is leading the way right now. 100%, we're leading the way. But I think you're already seeing it, and I think the financial implications of it in the next three, five years. I mean, Internet right now, crypto is. Is growing about this. It's going faster, actually, than the Internet was growing in 1999, really. Right. And. And. And that's not stopping anytime soon.
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Eric Trump
We love you guys.
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Kyle
Let's get back in the pod.
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Eric Trump
If everything disappeared tomorrow, what's the first thing you do to rebuild? Oh, a great question. Well, I mean the question is, do I have the same love of, of what I do today? Do I have the same. Yeah, yeah. No, I think what you do is you, you get into the thing that you know the best and you have the greatest competitive advantage at. Right? You know, I, I certainly wouldn't dive into a field that I know nothing about out. The, the learning curve is too long. You figure out whatever your heart tells you, you figure out whatever you're most passionate about, you know, whatever you enjoy the most coupled with something that can be right. We, we all probably enjoy things that just can't be. There's certain things that can't be, you know, monetized, you know, in, in life or, or there are certain things that.
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Kyle
You love, but you can't, you can't. Yeah, it's not going to be your business.
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Eric Trump
I, I always joke. So, so a lot of our properties, you have tennis courts, right? Tennis is worth freaking business, right? You can't make tennis work, you know, if you can break even tennis, right? And I'm using like a silly example, but like, like, if you really love tennis, you know, I'm not saying don't go, but, but for the most part, I think it's probably gonna be a pretty hard thing to, to, to really grow something that's in, in that space because it's just very hard, right? It's real estate intensive. It's, it's, it's tough. People don't pay a lot for it, you know, So I probably not go down the road of something that can't be monetized well. But, but you, you have to find the thing that can be monetized well, but that you, you absolutely adore and you love and you're passionate about and you really believe. You could probably hear my love for crypto. You could probably hear my love for real estate, right? So, you know, if, if everything disappeared tomorrow, I would definitely be in those two industries and, and, and I would rebuild on those rails because I understand both paradigms and I'm super damn passionate about both paradigms and you can make a lot of money. You can do extremely well. You can be a great entrepreneur in both those things. I, I would. You might like, you know, basket weaving. I would strongly suggest you. You not try and rebuild in the field of basket weaving, because it's probably not going to work out too well.
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Kyle
I could see Selim weaving baskets, though, at the same time. What's the biggest thing you've learned in business? Have you ever been burned?
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Eric Trump
Oh, God. You know how many times We've all been burned? You're going to get burned, right? You're going to get burned. You're going to make mistakes. And, you know, I think with, with everything in life, you got to. You got to treat life as a little bit of a game. I know that sounds crazy. Oftentimes it can be a super uncomfortable game. Oftentimes it's not a friendly game. Go back to politics for a second. Not nice. I built a charity for children of St. Jude. I built the largest ICU dedicated to terminally ill children anywhere in the World at St. Jude's Children's Hospital, which is the best pediatric research hospital in the world. I started the thing when I was 20 years old. I've raised over 50 million bucks for them, built so much of their campus, and they came after me like I was a dog for doing it right, all because they wanted a counter narrative to Hillary Clinton, kind of the crappy work that she was doing with the Clinton Foundation. And I realized I started getting subpoena after subpoena, and they just wanted to do anything they could to destroy me. And I realized after the pain subsided, it's like, I can't believe you would attack such a good concept. Who would attack a children's charity that had zero expense ratio? Our expense ratio was the best in the country. Who would go after. Then you start realizing that there's a game behind it. Well, why were they going after me? They were going after, after me because Hillary was being attacked every single day. And, and they needed a counter narrative. And that was the world of politics. And, and so there's a point that, you know, you have to treat everything like a game. You have to take emotion out of, out of life and start taking, you know, start looking at things as a game. How do I win it? Sometimes that game is really fun and enjoyable, and we've had a lot of those moments in our lives. Sometimes that game sucks. Guys, you're going to find that, I'm sure you found that plenty of times on, on, on this, on this journey where you Put your heart and soul and created something great. And then, congratulations, YouTube cancels you like a dog because they don't like your message or because you're reaching people that they can no longer monetize because you're monetizing those very people, and they want to destroy everything that you've built. And that's all part of the game. And. And so, you know, I. I think the piece of advice would be just understand life as a game as it is, and. And play those. You know, try and play as many of those. Those cards as you can, devoid of. Of the emotional reaction that's so easy to have.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
So you're saying you pretty much can't have emotion?
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Eric Trump
No, I'm not saying that. I think emotion is important. I'm just saying that I. You know, I think when. When people start, you know, crying to themselves, like, you know, there's gonna be some things that you can effectuate, and there's gonna be other things that you can't, you know, and. And just realize that, you know, a lot of times, you know, you're playing outside the world of motion. You're playing inside a world of. Of. Of a game, and just play to win, you know, work to win, play to win. You know, you're gonna have crappy situations get thrown at you all the time.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
I was gonna say, I can't imagine how many friends come at you for favors, and you have to separate friendship, business relationships.
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Eric Trump
And I think for me, you know, during the political fight, I think it was more I had. I mean, you guys were obviously incredibly close. I had two friends, and they were, when I say inseparable. They were your drinking buddies in college. I did every vacation of my entire life with them that, you know, best friends, best everything. And sure enough, politics came along. I was one of the groomsmen in one of their weddings. The other brother was my true best friend in the world. And all of a sudden, I pop up Instagram one day or Facebook, and I see his wife marching in. Do you remember that parade in Washington, D.C. i won't use the word, but the pea parade that was happening in 2016, where all the girls were in the. Yeah, the hats and everything else, and she's departing in this with the most vile sign about my father that you could ever imagine. I'm like, how. How could. Like, I don't understand. Like. Like, I was literally on the stage of your wedding. I was your best friend. We had. I'd introduced the two of you guys. We had done everything together, and, you know, There, there are times in your life where people just disappoint you. I mean, they will. And, and you know, remember the people who were there in the, the worst times. Times. Yeah, because those are the people who will be by your side forever. There's a lot of people who are going to be by your side. Listen, as you guys have gotten, you know, tremendous fame from everything that you're doing here, I bet you have people kissing your asses every day. You know, I, I can tell you a lot of those people wouldn't die on the, the stake for you. You know, times, you know, it got shitty. Your podcast gets, you know, something, you know, something happens with. And guess what? You know, those people will forget who you are in three seconds. Not all of them. Not all of them. I don't want to be like a negative Nancy, but, but that's why in a certain way, in like 2020, with the, with the nonsense. Not that I believe that Joe Biden won. I mean, no one actually believes Joe Biden got 16 million more votes than Barack Obama did in 2012. Like, I don't, I don't think anybody believes this. I don't even think Obama believes this, by the way. But we quickly figured out who were true friends. And it was actually kind of like a very cathartic thing for all of us. We knew who was in the trenches with us, we knew who was by our sides, we knew who loved us when it was arguably unpopular to like us. And, and you'll never forget those people.
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Kyle
What was it like when in 2020, were you guys, like, down about it? Did you kind of think it was over or what was your, like, mindset and emotions like at that time?
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Eric Trump
Yeah, so we were in the blue room of the White House. And I'll never forget, I mean, we were winning that thing right? Until those dumps happened at 2 o' clock in the morning. And do you remember the, you remember that kind of famous chart? And then all of a sudden, and I'm sitting there and it was just a crushing. You know what's interesting? And sometimes when you work so damn hard where you've literally left everything on the fear field, it's hard to compartmentalize emotion because you're just kind of dead and you're saying, they're saying, I know we're being screwed. The whole world knows we're being screwed. Again, back to the thing. No one believes that Joe Biden, who didn't campaign, who lived in his basement for a seven month period of time, got more votes than Barack Obama, who, whether you love him or not, was incredibly charismatic, had a good look, had a good line of shit and all sorts of things. No one believes it. And I'm saying they're saying we just got ripped off. We just got absolutely jipped, and we had worked so damn hard. And what was interesting is kind of in retrospect, it was actually maybe the greatest thing that ever happened to us. Look at the difference now. You've got the Senate, you've got the House. You've got the Supreme Court, six, three. You've got, obviously, the executive branch. You've got a media that's largely dead. You've got American people who just don't believe in the nonsense that these people pander. You've got independent journalism and independent voice like you guys. It's just like a different. So that's the other thing. It's like, be careful of the law of unintended consequence in life. Oftentimes the things that you think are going to be worst in your life turn out to be the best, and the things that are best sometimes turn out to be the worst. And you don't see it at the time. Again, it was crushing in 2020, and now, as I sit here today, it's the best freaking thing that ever happened to us.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Completely changed the game.
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Eric Trump
A law of unintended consequences.
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Kyle
Be careful what would happen if you guys won that election.
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Eric Trump
If you want to happen. You would have had Mike Pence as a. As a vice president. I think we all probably would prefer J.D. right? Yeah. J.D.
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Kyle
Is a beast.
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Eric Trump
By. By. By 10. Right. You probably wouldn't have had Rubio in there. You probably wouldn't have had this killer Cabinet.
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Kyle
The Cabinet's just crazy.
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Eric Trump
You wouldn't have had the deflated media. You wouldn't have had the House or the Senate. I don't think you. You probably would have been kind of lamed up almost based on the fact that you wouldn't have controlled, you know, that branch of government. You would have had real problems. All right? And, and, and it would have sucked. Right? Like, he would have been effective, but he would have been effective in very different ways. They probably would have tried to imp him another five times. They would have probably been effective at it. Because if you didn't have the House and if you didn't have the Senate, that. You probably would have been effective at impeaching him, you know, versus versus today, where you don't have any of those things. Man, that's beautiful. I mean, that's beautiful.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Do you have Any piece of advice that your father gave you that just changed your life completely with.
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Eric Trump
With Happy with Happy dad bottles. It's hard to give one of them. No. So. So my father wasn't a big drinker. And he would always say, and he was really talked about a young age, but he was always, you know, kids, like when we were young, no drinking, no drugs, no smoking, get good grades, no tattoos, don't trust anyone. That was always his kind of line of advice. I think as a kid who was six years old, there's probably a good line of advice, if that makes sense. I think a little bit different than what we're talking about. But that was always his thing. And this other thing was, listen, you got to love it. You've got to love what you do. Don't try and do this if you don't love it. I can't tell you how many freaking smart people there are out there in the world that are either unmotivated or don't love what they're doing, doing. And, man, it's awfully hard to be successful under that. Those constraints. And so that was. That was always his guiding principle for us. And then. And then, as I said before, he made us work our asses off. You know, it was. It was not like, you know, go spend three and a half months doing absolutely nothing during the summer. It's. No, you're gonna sit on a damn construction site. Like, I wired half my house. When. When. When Laura and I moved into our house, I was running outlets all over the place. I was running outlets to my closet. I was doing all the light fixtures. I mean. And she's like, honey, you're gonna get electrocuted. I go, no. You know, so. So, you know, that's of kind key.
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Kyle
Yeah. Making like. I don't know why.
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Eric Trump
Yeah.
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Kyle
If you have rich parents and they just give you everything and don't make you work it.
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Eric Trump
Just buddies. I had that at Georgetown and, you know, gave their kids some 911 turbo. You know, the kids, 18 years old in college, it's like, honestly, my kids in college, they're going to be driving a used Suburban from 1984 that goes 40 miles an hour. That's a tub of steel around them. Like, Like. Like, who. Who gives their kid a 911 Turbo? Who gives their kid a Ferrari? Like, you. You. You know, you're. You've lost your damn mind. And by the way, if you do that, what the hell do they, like, aspire to? To. To build, right?
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Kyle
Like, it doesn't get better Than that kind of. Right.
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Eric Trump
Yeah, that's my point. So like, why would you work if it doesn't get better than that? Like what, what, what are you aspiring to achieve or, or, or, or get? Like, you know, some of the, some of the greatest days in my life have been the days that I was finally able to afford to buy myself the thing that I wanted to. And, and, and you were able to do that off of hard work and, and, and not, not just something that was given. I, I, I want to keep my kids as poor as humanly possible, as long as humanly possible. What's your favorite story of your dad? God, there's, there's, there's so many there, there, there are so, so, so skiing. So my mom was like a Czech Olympic skier, right? And he would come skiing every year, but she, she actually kind of kept it from him that she was a really, really good skier because he's ultra competitive and, and so she would fake that she was like sick, right? And then he'd go out skiing and you know, she'd go flying down the slopes, you know, after and you know, kind of buzz him, but not really, really lead on to the fact that was her, right? And, but we grew up skiing and, and, and I became very, very good early. And as soon as I started beating him and I was like seven, right? As soon as I started beating him down the hills, he'd come up next to me, he'd find one of these flat areas where just, you know, based on size and kind of momentum, he could catch up. He pop you out of your binding or push you off the side because like, there's no way that like 7 year old kid was beating Donald Trump down the mountain. You know, it's like we were competitive as, right? There was no, there was no holding back. I can't tell you how many, but I just, I still remember that like, that was like the true competitive nature where it's like we all had to freaking win, right? He had to win, we had to win. And I mean, he truly is the greatest guy in the world though. I mean, he's, he's got a big heart, you know, I mean, he's so much of him, it's not an act, but he's, he's a killer in a certain way. And I think that's what we want as president, certainly what you need to be if you're in real estate at the same time. The guy is, he's such a good human being, you know, who's done all of this for all the right reasons. And he could have. Guys, his life would have been a hell of a lot better here, you know, sitting in rooms like this, you know, being wind and dined by everybody in the world, you know, playing golf, screwing off, seeing his grandkids, making gazillion dollars, doing really well at real estate, you know, living the ultimate kind of American dream life, flying around in his plane, you know, and he gives it all up to, what, get impeached over and over and over, Take arrows, sit in courtrooms, 91 indictments. Whole thing probably cost us. I mean, just. Just in terms of legal fees that I paid just from the company, damn near 400 million bucks.
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Kyle
400 million.
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Eric Trump
Now, this is to defend yourself from. Yeah, right. Like, let's. Let's put this in perspective. This is to defend yourself against the fact that you weren't colluding with Russia when you were never colluding with Russia. This is to protect yourself from the fact that there was no dirty dossier that was made up by Hillary Clinton and our cron. You want to get a couple extra votes, right? And yet he did all of this because he believes in this country, he believes in America, and he believed that we were being run by a bunch of incompetent human beings or were selling us out to every country around the world and just being incompetent. And so, no, he's a remarkable person. But that skiing thing is one of these things I'll never forget. He was great.
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Nelk Boys Member 2
Lawyers love the Trump family.
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Eric Trump
Lawyers like the Trump family. Unfortunately, we don't like lawyers, but lawyers like us, it's kind of. It's kind of amazing.
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Kyle
He looks like the ultimate grandfather, too. Every time I see him with, like, Kai or, like, doing any type of, like, photos or with the grandkids, he's.
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Eric Trump
He's freaking the best. He loves my daughter. He loves my son. It was kind of cool. We were at the Daytona 500 this year, and so the Beast did a lap around the. The Daytown 500. So I hop in, and it's lower myself, and it was my daughter. My daughter's son, and. And she's just sitting there in the. In the window of the Beast. It was like the. It was like a moment from Days of Thunder. Have you ever seen Days of Thunder with Tom Cruise back in the day and just waving at the grandstands? But he's always been. He's. He's always been great with kids. I mean, he loves. He loves kids. Kids love him. You know, she'll go right around the golf course with him and, you know, one of the golf carts and with her teddy bear on her lap. And he's always. He's always been great, you know, great with that next generation. And it's. It's fun to say.
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Kyle
What's one of your favorite moments in the book?
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Eric Trump
Oh, there's so many. So my mom was toughest as hell and, you know, Communist, Czech, Sakia, kind of Olympic skier, she wouldn't come to my graduation. And so I called her up. I was in boarding school, and I called her up with the date of my graduation. She was European, right? And so think of, like. Think of like the super bowl, like, you know, the World Series, you know, wrapped up with every sporting event, right? And with. With Augusta. Put them all together and. And you have something in Europe, Monte Carlo Grand Prix, that's like the. The F1 race, like the. The most pitiful race. And like, every European freaking loves the Grand Prix, right? They all. So I call my mom up one day and I go, mom, my graduation's on, you know, whatever day it is. Yeah, June 1st. And she goes, no freaking way. I go, what are you talking about? She goes, honey, that's Monte Carlo Grand Prix. I'm not going. Your graduation. I go, mom, it's my. It's my high school graduation. You have to come to my high school graduation. She goes, honey, every. Every idiot graduates high school, I'm going to Monte Carlo Grand Prix, right? And the funny part of that story is she was just. She's a freaking killer. And she really meant it, right? She's an amazing woman, but just, you know, different, right? I mean, kind of old world, you know, tough as nails, you know, And. And. And she loved us, but, like, that was, like, who she was, right? Like, that was like her grit. It's like every moron graduates high school, honey. Now, if I. If I graduate from mit, she would have said the exact same thing. Honey, every moron graduates from mit. But it. It was just, you know, as I was kind of describing who she was and. And the personality in our lives, it just. Just Very funny. It's just like, very real and, and very grainy and very. Her.
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Kyle
One day, do you think you'll ever get into. Back into politics?
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Eric Trump
Guys, it's a shitty world, all right? And it does seem shitty. Yeah, it's a shitty world. It's a shitty world. It's a shitty job, by the way, with. With a bunch of kind of bad people. Not all. Some are great. Some are great. And, And. And so many of Them are corrupt as hell. You know, I think the Republican Party has created some, some great killers now, you know, some great personalities as well. We all like, right. And didn't have that, like, go back, you know, I was, I was just, I was in college during, during the Bush years. And no one was inspired by politics like, you know, DJT inspired people to politics. You see every hol, you know, you see every kid trick or treating and guess what they're wearing Donald Trump, you know, red ties and suits and they did a little comb over and everything else. Like, he's literally inspired like a generation. I think that's really kind of great. But who knows what you're calling us. I never thought I would have written a book that was number one New York Times bestseller by a factor of ten. I never thought I would have been on the Apprentice for seven seasons as I watched Nene Leakes and Star Jones shout at each other at 7 o' clock in the morning. And Gary Busey and Meatloaf, we did that for seven years and it was wild. I never thought I'd be running $10 billion company, probably more of international properties and building hotels and golf courses and everything else around the world. I never thought I would have been on that stage for winning two, arguably three presidencies, not knowing a damn thing about politics. So you never really know what the life brings for good and bad. I think if politics, if it ever got so bad, it was my father's famous saying back in the day, would you ever get into politics and said to Oprah a long time ago, if it got so bad? I had no choice. Probably be my same answer. I'm not sure if I naturally hop in unless it was so effed up that you just felt you needed to do it. I feel like we've developed the voice. I feel like we've developed a great understanding of America and the issues and things that drive people crazy and the dislike of the media and the dislike of politicians and the BS in the games and the nonsense. And I don't think we'll ever lose that. It's just whether or not we hop on in would probably depend on, you know, where this country was and, you know, whether it made sense for us and our respective families. Right? Because they're coming. These people are. Make no mistake, guys, they're coming. Whether it made sense at that time.
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Kyle
Who's like the craziest person that or some of the craziest people you have ever met? Like, have you met Oprah? Like, have you met any world Crazy.
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Eric Trump
World leaders we were on yourself. Like, like most of them we were on the stage with. We were. We were. I think we're the second to last Oprah show. Her last one. I think she brought her original cast from her first episode ever back and gave them all cars. I think we were second to last on Oprah. So, yeah, obviously met Oprah, you know, Hulk Hogan, rest his soul. I mean, he was. He was a guy who we knew very well from the Atlantic City days. Remember? We, we. We also grew up in kind of Atlantic City. So, you know, the Michael Jacksons of the world, the Don Kings of the world, the Mike Tysons of the world. I mean, you know, all of these guys, we. We knew. We knew every single one of them. Every. Every band, every, you know, the Axl Roses of the world. And, you know, every.
- [73:23]
Kyle
Every performer, they would all come here, right?
- [73:26]
Eric Trump
Well, a lot, A lot. To the casinos and then the other side. I mean, you know, so you had kind of the Apprentice world, which you had a lot of those characters, right? You had the business world, where you had a lot of these characters. You had a lot of world leaders that we just knew from certain circles. And you had the Atlantic City worlds, which were a lot of the entertainers and the fighters. I mean, we were hosting the. The first of the UFCs back in the day, before there were even freaking rules where you could eye gouge and kick to the face while somebody's on the ground and groin kick and stuff like that. Do you remember some of those early fights in the ufc?
- [73:54]
Kyle
Yeah, yeah. People are literally wearing, like, geese.
- [73:56]
Eric Trump
Totally.
- [73:57]
Kyle
Like, Royce Gracie.
- [73:58]
Eric Trump
You'd have. You'd have. You'd have the Gracie guys that go against a sumo guy, they'd just sit there and leg kick him, and then, you know, when he finally falls down, they get behind him and just choke him out. It was crazy. You know, it's. And then obviously all the WrestleManias back in the day and, and the Vince McMahons and, you know, they're friends to this day.
- [74:15]
Kyle
And you watch a lot of UFC still.
- [74:16]
Eric Trump
I love it. I mean, that's. That's, that's my. Yeah, that's my favorite sport of kind of choice.
- [74:21]
Kyle
Who would you love to see on the White House card?
- [74:24]
Eric Trump
I mean, Jon Jones has to fight. I think he'll be on it. I would love to see him. You know what, it's funny, he put up a tweet the other day. It's like, I don't know, a month ago, where he had like one spot left on his wall. He had all the title, you know, because he's right. And then he had one spot left and he took a picture of it, so. So I feel like he has one. One left in him. And, man, if there's ever one that you're going to do, it's. It's the White House. I mean, I think you're gonna see. I think you're gonna see McGregor at that one. Yeah, I've gotten no McGregor pretty well. And. And he's a great guy. I mean, there's so much talent there right now. I mean, he gained a lot of.
- [74:55]
Kyle
Leverage off when the White House thing got announced because McGregor was kind of MIA.
- [74:59]
Eric Trump
Yeah.
- [74:59]
Kyle
Jones was retired. And then all of a sudden, White House.
- [75:03]
Eric Trump
Everybody wants to be the greatest performance of all time, you know? I mean, the renderings look insane.
- [75:08]
Kyle
Insane. Like, that's going to be the craziest sporting event of all time.
- [75:12]
Eric Trump
My father's birthday, which is Flag Day on the day. Yeah. Which is Flag Day at the White House on the south lawn on America's 250th birthday.
- [75:22]
Kyle
I mean, fighters walking out from the Oval Office.
- [75:26]
Eric Trump
This one is going to be like, we. We need, like, a great American card. Because, listen, I like. I like a lot of these guys, and these guys all like us. I mean, you know, gsp, all these guys. Guys, were they universally. I tell you, all the fighters, really. But, man, we have to have a good American showing on. On. On America's birthday at the White House. We need a good American showing.
- [75:44]
Kyle
That's what I mean. So I wonder. Yeah, I wonder who.
- [75:46]
Eric Trump
I wonder who they're going to put on. Because there's not any American champions right now.
- [75:49]
Kyle
I think main event options are this. Jon Jones versus someone.
- [75:52]
Eric Trump
Yeah.
- [75:53]
Kyle
McGregor versus someone. Or potentially Toporia and Makachev, if that lines up. I think Those are the three fighter. I think those are the three possible main events.
- [76:02]
Eric Trump
Jones, Alex, McGregor, someone, maybe Chandler. I'd love to see some of the other guys. I go, like, we' come pretty close to Bo. Bo Nickel. He's a. He's a hell of a fighter. This kid was like, undefeated at Penn State. Right. I mean, this was like the true, like, American champ. He goes into the Octagon, he starts knocking people's freaking heads off, you know, and by the way, not just wrestling his. His. You know, his, his. You know, the ground game is obviously phenomenal, but, like, he ended up becoming a good striker and, you know, he's doing great. Like, I'd love to see a couple of the American kids that. That did really well. And in college at like the good American kind of state schools, you know, we're wrestling based guys in the. Yeah, I just love to see a couple like the good American kids, they. They, you know that. That are kind of new. Newer to the sport, but show great promise. Go in there and have a couple of the prelim fights. You know, I always enjoy watching those guys.
- [76:49]
Kyle
You've been to a lot of fights? Probably. So what do you think the crowd will be like at that event versus typical UFC fights? Like, is it going to be a lot of world leaders there and stuff? Like.
- [76:56]
Eric Trump
Yeah, I think that one's gonna be interesting. I mean, obviously with security and space constraints and everything else, like, you know, like 5,000 people. But I think Dana's already said that they're just going to. They're not obviously. This isn't a pay per view thing. It's just going to be aired on. Right. So, like the entire. I think this could be one of the most tuned into sporting events ever. Ever. Like, you know, I'd love to see a push super bowl numbers. Right. And I think done correctly, I think.
- [77:17]
Kyle
It can because it's going to be international. Right. Just because it's at the White House, like, totally.
- [77:20]
Eric Trump
No, I think it's going to be. It's going to be a hell of an event. I'm super excited. And D. Dana's become really close to the family. I've become really close to Dana and he's. Dana's the freaking greatest. I love him today.
- [77:31]
Kyle
And no one loves your dad more than Dana too, right?
- [77:33]
Eric Trump
He's the best. Dana is absolutely the greatest.
- [77:35]
Kyle
Yeah.
- [77:35]
Nelk Boys Member 2
So we cannot wait to be there with you.
- [77:38]
Eric Trump
Watch. Come on, boys, let's go.
- [77:40]
Nelk Boys Member 2
I might need your help.
- [77:42]
Kyle
You gotta start doing a lot of favors for Dana.
- [77:44]
Nelk Boys Member 2
Anything you need to, let me know. Yeah, we can't wait.
- [77:47]
Eric Trump
Dude, he's. He's the best. And that's gonna be a fun event. That card's gonna be nuts, man. Awesome. Doesn't that symbolize, like, the best of America? So many.
- [77:53]
Nelk Boys Member 2
Yeah, it's most American thing.
- [77:54]
Eric Trump
Thing ever, right? Yes. Do you think Biden would have done that? Do you think Biden would have liked.
- [77:57]
Nelk Boys Member 2
Of course not. We know this.
- [77:58]
Eric Trump
And do you think. Do you think Obama would have done that? Of course not.
- [78:01]
Nelk Boys Member 2
The best thing about it, and I. I think we asked Dana this on the podcast, is that your father announced it before talking to him. And there's nothing better than that. Oh, yeah, that's the great.
- [78:10]
Kyle
Dana found out about it from the.
- [78:11]
Eric Trump
Thing, by the way, that doesn't surprise me at all. Yeah, he announces a lot of. On social media.
- [78:16]
Kyle
Yeah. It's Dana's like, oh, I guess I'm doing this.
- [78:19]
Eric Trump
You know, Dan is one of these guys who never forgot, I told you this before, that there are people in your life who during the good times will be there, during the bad times will be wholly absent. Dana was one of those guys that no matter how rough the seas were, he never, ever left his side. And he always told one story. He goes, when no one would bet on us, I approached Donald Trump in Atlantic City, and we held the first UFCs there, and no one would allow us to do it. None of the venues would take us. None of the states would take us. I had one conversation. He said, absolutely. And I'll never forget that UFC wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Donald Trump. UFC wouldn't be here in this capacity if it wasn't for him believing in us and taking a chance. And I will never, ever, ever forget that. And, man, Dana stood on that stage. He stood on that stage at the RNC conventions. This isn't easy, Right. He had plenty of corporate sponsors who were telling him to go f himself. And you do this and you're going to lose it all. You're going to lose your teeth. TV contracts. And Dana didn't give a crappy. You want to talk about a guy who has backbone? Want to talk about a good man? Dana White is. Is as good as a definition of.
- [79:25]
Kyle
Like, having balls and not giving a.
- [79:27]
Eric Trump
And look at this contract right now. Look at what he just did. Look at. Look at it. Look at the contract. He just signed Paramount.
- [79:32]
Nelk Boys Member 2
Yeah.
- [79:32]
Eric Trump
This guy's crushed it. Yeah. And by the way, one other thing that no one talks about. Look at boxing, right? So I grew up on all the. The Tyson fights.
- [79:39]
Nelk Boys Member 2
Now he. They're bringing him into boxing.
- [79:41]
Eric Trump
Well, they should, because he's a phenomenal promoter. And boxing was. When I was growing up, boxing was, like, biggest. The biggest sport, right? Like, you know, think about, like, mid-80s in Atlantic City.
- [79:49]
Nelk Boys Member 2
Yeah.
- [79:49]
Eric Trump
We had everyone. We had the greatest Tyson fights. Spanks. We had. We had. We had all of them. I mean, I remember going to Tyson McNeely where he beats the guy from. I remember he beats the hell out of the. The. The. You know, Peter McNeely from.
- [80:02]
Nelk Boys Member 2
Tried to intimidate him. He knocked him in, like, the first.
- [80:04]
Eric Trump
Wait, Tyson just got out of jail, like, three days later, right? And he literally.
- [80:07]
Nelk Boys Member 2
He looked terrifying in there.
- [80:09]
Eric Trump
He was terrifying. Yeah. That guy's most terrifying of all time. Yeah. And, and, and I mean, boxing was amazing, and it was, it was kind of, like, elegant. Like, people would actually dress up to go to the. Some of the fights, which kind of added, like, I'm not. Yeah, I try and be a little bit casual now, but, like, you know, I added something to kind of the lammer of what boxing was. And you had, you had the great heavyweight fighters. Like, people miss, like, the heavyweight fighters today.
- [80:30]
Nelk Boys Member 2
Yeah.
- [80:30]
Eric Trump
And it seems like all the good fighters were all these kind of, like, welterweight guys, and it's less entertaining. And I think boxing. Right. Maybe more in the ufc, but less in boxing. And, and, man, we got to bring boxing back. But, but, you know, Dana, he literally stole the fighting industry from boxing and brought it all to the ufc, because that's how good he was. Right. And, and I guarantee you give Dana two years of boxing, he'll make boxing relevant again.
- [80:56]
Kyle
Yeah, I think that's something him and your dad have in common, is they just. I feel like they like to prove people wrong, too, and they, they just won't stop till they win. Like, there's no option to lose. That's what I've kind of noticed.
- [81:06]
Eric Trump
He's the freaking greatest. I, I, I would, I would take a bullet for that guy in a heartbe the coolest thing. He gets up on stage and he goes, I'm in the tough guy business, and Donald Trump is the toughest of them all. I thought that was the coolest statement ever. This is literally as he's like, you know, courtroom after courtroom. You know, we're in courthouses every day. As they were trying to indict him. They were trying to throw me in jail. They were trying to throw him in jail. But Danny goes, I'm in the tough by guy business, and he's the toughest of them all. Such a cool statement.
- [81:32]
Kyle
Oh, yeah. All right, well, where can everyone get the book?
- [81:35]
Eric Trump
Go to Amazon. Don't go to Barnes and Noble. You know, they've been kind of pissing me off. They've really? Why? Yeah, we're number one bestseller shelf space. I don't give a damn. I like to say that, but, like, no, like, you go to half the Barnes and Nobles, and, like, they hide them in the background like that. It's like, it's crazy. It's like, I've had so many people walk into Barnes and Nobles, they can't find it. So it's the number one book in the country by far. And then people walk into Barnes and.
- [81:57]
Kyle
Noble and, you know, Barnes and Noble, get it together.
- [81:59]
Eric Trump
Well, I don't even know if anybody buys anything in Barcelona anymore. Just go to Amazon. Because, honestly, everybody buys everything at Amazon. And I. I can tell you my publisher is not gonna be thrilled that I just said that, but it's. Hon. Honestly, you go into three quarters of the Barnes Noble, you can't even. They're there. They're there. Then you have a store manager that plays games and hides it behind four other books. And, you know, there's plenty of that crap. But just go on. Go on Amazon. Amazon.
- [82:18]
Kyle
We'll put the link at the top of the description, too.
- [82:20]
Eric Trump
Number one book in the contrary. And incredibly proud of it, guys.
- [82:23]
Kyle
Awesome. Well, we appreciate you, bro. This is awesome.
- [82:25]
Eric Trump
And congrats. Yeah. So you guys are.
- [82:26]
Kyle
Yeah, we'll send you home with some happy dad, too.
- [82:27]
Eric Trump
Crushing on the podcast. You guys are crushing it with happy dad. Thank you so much. You guys are incredible. Thank you.
- [82:33]
Kyle
Appreciate you.
- [82:33]
Eric Trump
Thank you. Thanks, guys.
- [82:34]
Kyle
Eric, Trump, let's go.