Larry Wheels | Ep. 187

Summary

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FULL SEND PODCAST Ep. 187: Larry Wheels (February 25, 2026)

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Episode Overview

This episode features Larry Wheels, renowned powerlifter, bodybuilder, and content creator, joined by his wife, Ivan. The conversation dives deep into the couple's recent foray into live streaming, the impact of viral internet clips on their relationship, navigating online narratives and trolls, collaboration culture in streaming and fitness, fitness philosophies, and their personal lives. The tone throughout is candid, humorous, and reflective, with plenty of banter and real talk about handling fame, online scrutiny, and personal boundaries in a rapidly evolving creator economy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Transitioning from Fitness Content to Streaming

[02:11-03:38 | 19:43-22:17 | 40:27-44:14]

• Larry and Ivan have been streaming for just three weeks but have been creating content for years.
• Initially skeptical about streaming and daily “gym IRL” content, Larry found new opportunity after a viral collab with Rampage.
• Viral clips tend to focus on drama and controversy, not exclusively fitness.
• The couple notices their audience and opportunities growing rapidly, largely due to the streaming format’s volume of clippable moments:
  • “Now we can just do anything.” — Larry Wheels [02:37]
  • “Streaming just gives you like an abundance of content... now I have like five [Instagram posts] a day.” — Larry Wheels [43:54]
• Collabs with outgoing personalities like Rampage and Dean bring new dynamics and expand their content beyond traditional gyms.

2. Virality, Trolling, and Online Narratives

[03:39-08:22 | 22:17-24:25 | 40:27-44:14]

• Viral drama often centers on Ivan, such as a clip of her allegedly “being into Rampage,” fueling out-of-context narratives.
• Ivan addresses how quick judgment and trolling didn’t affect their real relationship but prompted her to lean into trolling herself:
  • “Let me troll them back. Like, what can I say to piss off these red pill guys?” — Ivan [07:25]
• Clipped content rarely captures sincere or positive moments, focusing instead on controversies.
• Larry and Ivan agree that the online drama hasn't hurt their relationship—“us against the world” mentality.

3. Relationship Boundaries and Double Standards

[07:45-10:04 | 38:19-39:59]

• Ivan addresses the infamous "guy friends/girlfriends" viral moment, clarifying her boundary is about “no new friends” during marriage.
• Larry discusses his comfort level with Ivan’s longtime (and out-of-shape) guy friend, showing trust.
• The couple is transparent about the limits of “girl content;” Ivan supports collabs with strong women for fitness, but draws the line at suggestive content outside those boundaries.
  • “If it’s us together, then I’m like, I’m okay. But... I just know the ways it can be spun around. I don’t want to go through that.” — Ivan [38:59]

4. Collaborations, IRL Streaming & Content Evolution

[12:00-14:20 | 20:17-21:38 | 41:09-41:50]

• The appeal of IRL (In Real Life) content: viewers like unpredictable, real-world scenarios (e.g., bars, double dates, “jungle survival”).
• Larry cites Rampage’s personality and the power of collaborations for viral, entertaining streams.
• More viral clips now come from drama/controversy than from fitness PRs or records.
  • “The core of a good stream... just being entertaining as an individual.” — Larry Wheels [20:44]

5. Online Hate, Streaming Culture, and Thick Skin

[22:40-24:25 | 47:15-48:50 | 58:32-59:48]

• Both say that reading too many comments is pointless and mentally taxing:
  • “What do I have to gain for reading this shit? ...I just stop looking at them. I turn off my DMs.” — Larry Wheels [22:54]
• Ivan learned quickly about the clip/chop content game—many people believe whatever goes viral, regardless of facts.
  • “It’s never like, they never clip the nice things I say, you know, or when I’m praising Larry.” — Ivan [22:24]
• Most hate is online, not in person; the couple has learned to ignore it and not let it affect their real relationship.

6. Content Strategy, Botting & Platform Growth

[41:53-44:14]

• Larry and Ivan started streaming with only 11 viewers; now they range from 1,000-2,000 live after three weeks.
• They stress their growth is organic — while many streamers bot viewers, they avoid it.
• Clips are more important than live numbers, as most viewers see Larry through viral video snippets.

7. Fitness, Bodybuilding, and Endurance Challenges

[27:56-35:37 | 36:45-37:14]

• Larry discusses training for open bodybuilding (aiming to get bigger/stronger before transitioning to endurance sports).
• Shares tips on gaining size:
  • “Eat every three hours and be consistent. Don’t miss meals even when you travel…the diet that works is the one you stick to.” — Larry Wheels [31:03]
• Warns against dirty bulking, shares his experience gaining 60 lbs in two weeks and the downsides.
• Talks about steroid/testosterone use in the fitness industry — warns against unnecessary early use.
• Muses on the current state of bodybuilding, noting the rise of "aesthetics" and “looks maxing” alongside traditional mass monsters.

8. Personal Life & Addiction

[35:34-39:14 | 48:58-51:14]

• Larry and Ivan share how they met (slid into her DMs in Dubai); Larry spent four years there, taking advantage of opportunities during COVID.
• Larry openly describes his history with addiction, especially porn—how high test usage fuels obsessive tendencies and how he overcomes it.
  • “...the worst of [steroids] is your libido, like, getting out of control…just channel that sexual energy into your partner.” — Larry Wheels [49:36-51:16]
• Ivan expresses her affection and love for Larry, calling out his generosity, gentleness, and loyalty.

9. Future Plans: Big Streams, Travel, Collaborations

[51:17-56:13]

• Plans for “multi-day streams” living with tribes, jungle challenges, leveraging travel for content.
• Lists favorite and least favorite collaborations (Thor “The Mountain” and Andre Smyrov as faves; disinterest for Tiktoki, whom Larry brands a “troll”).
• Larry credits his support network in fitness and streaming collaborations as being pivotal for his career and future ambitions.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Out-of-Context Viral Clips

  “People are really buying into it. So for me, it’s just like, are people really that slow to…not understand?” — Ivan [06:55]

• On Content Creation Evolution

  “After 10 years of strictly fitness content, it’s gotten slightly stale…I’m looking forward to more novelty and unique experiences outside the gym.” — Larry Wheels [19:43]

• On Haters and Relationship Pressure

  “Us against the world because we know our relationship and people around us know it.” — Ivan [06:55]

• On Addiction and Boundaries

  “I don’t want to see, like, any, like, ass or tits or… explicit content because I have a history with addiction. I don’t want, like, any triggers.” — Larry Wheels [48:58]

• On Growth and Streaming Methodologies

  “We’re not botting views—you know, a lot of these streamers, they’re buying views… but we’re seeing 1,000-2,000 [live] now.” — Ivan [42:21]

• On Handling Trolls

  “Once you shut down your phone, the trolling doesn’t exist, the hate doesn’t exist.” — Ivan [58:43] “If I hit first, I’m getting sued… But I’d love for them to try me first so I have an excuse to hit back.” — Larry Wheels [59:30]

• On Marriage and Authenticity

  “He wouldn’t be married to me for so long… if I was like some bitch to him.” — Ivan [60:25] “I just love how non-judgmental he is… he never judges nobody… He loves giving and helping people out.” — Ivan [60:39]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:11 | Larry & Ivan discuss streaming origins & content shift | | 03:44 | The first viral clip controversy with Ivan & Rampage | | 05:04 | Relationship goes public—dealing with hate | | 07:25 | Ivan starts to troll the trolls | | 08:41 | Boundaries: guy friends, double standards, trust | | 12:01 | Collab culture, trio streams with Rampage & Dean | | 19:43 | Larry on novelty/freshness outside gym content | | 22:17 | Drama, clip culture, the “love to hate” mentality | | 22:54 | Larry on mental health: ignoring negative comments | | 31:03 | Fitness tip: bulking, shakes vs. meals, consistency advice | | 33:02 | “Bloat maxing”: Larry’s 60-lb weight gain experiment | | 35:34 | Gym and lifestyle in Dubai | | 38:19 | “Gym date” content—relationship boundaries | | 40:27 | Viral relationship talk: should they keep leaning in? | | 41:53 | Streaming growth, not botting, value of viral clips | | 47:15 | Haters mainly online; learning to tune it out | | 48:58 | Porn addiction, test use, and channeling libido | | 51:17 | Jungle streaming plans, pushing creative boundaries | | 56:13 | Favorite/least favorite collabs; fitness icons | | 58:32 | Online vs. in-person trolling | | 60:39 | Ivan’s heartfelt words on Larry |

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Summary Takeaways

• Larry and Ivan have embraced the unpredictable, controversial nature of live streaming, turning viral drama into opportunity while retaining a sense of humor and loyalty to each other.
• The real relationship is unaffected by the online chaos—“us against the world.”
• Larry’s future content aims to push creative boundaries (travel, survival, culture) and free himself from narrowly fitness-focused work.
• Both caution against unhealthy trends in fitness—dirty bulking, early steroids, and the superficial chase for follower numbers (e.g., view-botting).
• The episode offers a raw look into the modern streaming game: deep trust, thick skin, and adaptability rule the creator world, with relationship authenticity shining through despite all the noise.

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Full Send Podcast delivered an engaging, in-depth, and real conversation—the perfect crash course for anyone curious about the intersection of fitness, content creation, viral culture, and relationships in the age of streaming.

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Transcript

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[Podcast Host 2]

so how long you guys been. When did you guys start streaming?

[Larry Wheels]

Like, what, three weeks ago?

[Podcast Host 2]

That's it?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And what made you. Because you've been. You're an OG in the game, like, of content too.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

When did you start making content?

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, I've been making videos since I've been 17. Popped off for the first time when I was 21. That's when I monetize everything and just made it my full time thing. But streaming, we're fresh. I mean, I made a kick account. Like about a year ago, I did a video with Ocampion. I'm not sure if you know who that is. He's been going viral for doing some creation. Ellie Fitness just got banned everywhere. But after that I was thinking, damn, this might not be for me. I can't stream every single day. What I'm gonna do. This is such a big departure from the kind of content I normally make. And I don't think many people want to see gym IRLs every day. So I shelved it until I met Rampage. I met Rampage. We did a collab at UFC gym in OC and so many clips went viral and we're thinking, holy shit. Like, actually there's so much opportunity here for streaming. And the kind of content I've been making for the last decade or so has been contingent on getting freaks of nature or like world class athletes or me breaking world records, which after a certain point, after I've set the bar so high, it's not sustainable to do on a regular basis. Right. So it leaves me like strain it for content and I'm like, okay, what do I do now? So with streaming now, like the world just opened up. Now we can just do anything.

[Podcast Host 2]

What did you notice about the types of clips that went viral with Rampage? Like, what surprised you that went viral?

[Larry Wheels]

I wouldn't say it surprised me, as I was expecting the drama, the controversial clips to go viral. Not really the spitness side of what we were doing, which was like we wrestled each other for a bit. None of those clips really got any numbers. But the clip of my wife twirling her hair, staring off in the distance got spun. She's into Rampage. That was the first one that popped off.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 2]

Because that's like the whole narrative too. That's kind of going viral.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, yeah, that. I mean, at that moment particular, I was so zoned zoned out because he was talking to his videographer and saying stuff. And then I was just listening and I was just like, my mind was somewhere else. And then I'm not into. I was not like in social, doing social media at all besides Snapchat, but that's about it. And then when I saw that, I was like, Damn. Like, I did not expect it. Like, I didn't even want to be on that stream. But Larry was like, come with me. It's a long ride on the way back because of traffic. And I was like, fine, I'll go. And I wasn't even in that stream. It was just like, you know, I forgot it was being filmed. And then there you go. Like, apparently, I'm into rampage. After, like, we woke up, it just went viral everywhere.

[Podcast Host 3]

How long you guys been together?

[Larry Wheels]

We been together about five years now. Married?

[Podcast Host 3]

Really?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

Anniversary just a few days back.

[Podcast Host 3]

And has she been. Have you been in his videos before?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

We did one YouTube video.

[Larry Wheels]

Two or three, actually.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Oh, yeah, we did two. Two YouTube videos, but that's about it. Like, I never like being in YouTube videos or in his social media, because once our. Like, straight away, like, the moment he posted picture with me, there was like, hey. Oh, she's not. She looks like a gold digger. She has a certain look. Like, straight away, they kind of like, no, I'm Serbia.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, Serbian.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah. They kind of pinned me into that, like, straight away. And then our engagement video happened, and apparently I did not react the way people wanted me to react. Like, I just. I was just in shock, and I'm like. I'm the person. Like, I just froze. And then. Oh, she's not happy.

[Podcast Host 2]

She's not smiling.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh.

[Larry Wheels]

So I took her to this dirt restaurant in Dubai where we had a table beside a. What you call it? An aquarium?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

And basically, this diver went inside the aquarium and held up a sign, like, will you marry me?

[Podcast Host 2]

Wow. But that's pretty impressive. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

That's gonna be what we're gonna do.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Like a big family next to. Everybody's staring at me, and I hate direct attention. So it's just, like, everybody's hearing me, and I was just like. I was just like. And they were taking videos and pictures. I was like, damn. Like, what do I do now? So I just. I was. I states, like, I was sitting down, and then people took that, like, oh, my gosh, she hates me. So that's when I first started getting so much hate.

[Podcast Host 3]

Did you say yes?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Of course. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

How long did it take you to say yes? Were you sweating for a little bit?

[Larry Wheels]

For sure.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Because I was. I was, like, froze. But then he was trying to, like, open the box. So I was waiting for him to open the box for me to say yes. And that's how, like, it took a bit longer. And then that's when I started receiving so much hate. And, like, it Was just, like, really annoying. To this day, I cannot watch our engagement video because for me, it's, like, associated to, like, online hate.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, so that's. That's what I find interesting because once you put your relationship out there, as you probably learned pretty recently, there's like,

[Podcast Host 2]

then the whole world's judging it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Right? Yeah.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

So has that affected any of your guys's personally, like, personal relationship? The toxicity of, like, streaming and clips and.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Actually, no. Like, because we know what's the truth, you know, like, so we actually, we never been even closer because we kind of like, us against the world because we know our relationship and people around us know it. So for me, it does not bother me, but I did not expect, like, I didn't know, like, anything about streaming or I never watched that kind of content. So when I see, like, things being clipped and they're so out of context, it's just like, what? Like, and people are really buying into it. So for me, it's just like, are people really that slow to really, like, not understand? Like, if you watch the clip and then you see, okay, that, like, that's not what she said. But people still running with that, like a whole narrative. And to be honest, once I realized that's the story, I'm like, okay, let me troll them back. Like, what can I say to, like, piss off these red pill guys? Like, so it just became kind of like a joke for me as well, but it's just like, after something.

[Podcast Host 2]

So you're trolling back now?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

I am trolling a lot, but sometimes.

[Podcast Host 2]

What's the troll, though? How about the one clip I saw was the. You're allowed to have guy friends, but he's not allowed to have girlfriends. Is that a troll or is that real?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Well, to be honest, the story is I. I had, like, just one guy friend for, like, over 10 years, and I said, if he had, like, a girlfriend for many, many years, like, that, no problem with that. I don't have any problem. Like, introduced me to her, whatever. But if he was to create, like, a girlfriend all of a sudden while in marriage, like, just doesn't make sense. Because I know he told me before, like, like, it's just, I don't want to have a girlfriend. Like, for. For me, it never works. So if he was to do that all of a sudden, I'll be like, okay, like, what?

[Podcast Host 2]

Change saying, so no new girlfriends.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Exactly. And I don't have any new guy friends.

[Podcast Host 3]

You know, what happened to the guy friend? Is he still around? Is the guy friend still Around?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, he's my friend. He lives in Dubai. We've been. He's married, he has two kids. He met him many times, you know, like, so it's not like you don't

[Podcast Host 3]

think that he was putting it trying for 10 years, you know, no guys wants just a girlfriend. Let's be real with each other here.

[Larry Wheels]

I think maybe in the beginning, before he was married, potentially there was something, some interest there romantically. But I believe after meeting him, like it's ploy, platonic really.

[Podcast Host 2]

The thing is guys only, they'll only be friends with a girl if the girl rejects them. They always want to be more than friends unless they're unattracted to them or they're. Or it's your boy's girl, right? Does that make sense?

[Larry Wheels]

It does make sense. Yeah.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

I think they're always exceptional to rule. I never ever noticed any kind of like, any, any, I don't know, anything inappropriate from him. He was a friend with all my friends, like all my girlfriends, like they were. We were friends for 10 years and he only dated like one of my girlfriends. So it was never really like. I never noticed any, any anything from him where I felt like uncomfortable or there is anything more to it, you know. But also like we are so polar opposite of each other types, you know. So I think maybe that's why as well. So. Yeah, I don't know. But.

[Podcast Host 2]

And that makes sense. It's an old guy friend.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, there's that. And he's not local. He doesn't live in la, anywhere. New York, across the country. And it's not like she's talking to him every day. Seeing him all the time, I mean, it's very.

[Podcast Host 2]

What's his physique compared to Larry's?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Oh, he's very much out of shape. Yeah, no, he's just. I'm not gonna call my friend fat, like, but he does have like problem with weight and like, you know, I've been sending him redda to Dubai for him to help him out. So.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, he doesn't sound like a threat.

[Podcast Host 3]

Larry, you seem pretty calm. Like you don't have a short fuse, do you?

[Larry Wheels]

I don't, I don't. I mean, when people see me reaching online post lift, it's only because of the adrenaline that I'm experiencing after getting a massive pr. I don't ever react that way towards anything else.

[Podcast Host 3]

Okay, so with Dean, you slap my boy Dean.

[Larry Wheels]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host 3]

My boy.

[Larry Wheels]

I mean, even that wasn't like the rejoicing experience.

[Podcast Host 2]

What happened with you though? You Tried to press him?

[Podcast Host 3]

No, he just gets really fired up. And I mean, I was trolling him for. He's had a tough week. Like, he took your slap and he got elbowed in the face. Then he fought again. And I just kept bringing it up because I brought him to Brad, because Brad also slaps, as you've seen.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah. I mean, he's a professional boxer. He can take a couple slaps and elbows to the face. Yeah. You know, and I don't see him stopping his trolling ways anytime.

[Podcast Host 3]

So was he actually being too disrespectful? Because I saw. I kept going for a hug with you.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

And I don't know if. Because, Larry, now people are kind of spinning this narrative that you might be kind of Adam 22.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, I know what they're trying to spin online. I've denied these allegations already. We did it on Cloudspot and even just at home at desktop. And Dean was digging just for a couple hours. And, like, I made it clear to him, like, all right, enough is enough. And Rampage is even trying to talk to you now. Like, bro, chill. And then that's when.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay, Dean was hammered, though, right?

[Larry Wheels]

Or. I mean, he wasn't hammered.

[Podcast Host 2]

He wasn't.

[Larry Wheels]

He looked. A glass of wine.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's it.

[Larry Wheels]

That's it. He seemed a bit hammered. Oh, I get it. Like, he's just.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

But he's so small. Like, even glass of alcohol would probably get him, like, drunk.

[Podcast Host 2]

So. That was totally real, that whole situation.

[Larry Wheels]

I mean, I was legit. Like.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, well, you had a great. You had a right to be. Like, I think that's why everyone. It blew up, too, because everyone kind of. They saw your patience through that situation until the very end.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And everyone's like, damn. Like, it's handled it well.

[Podcast Host 3]

Why the. Is he, like. I mean, you look fucking jacked. I don't know if it's the lighting or what's good, but why would he.

[Larry Wheels]

Why would he ever.

[Podcast Host 3]

Why would he ever target your girl and think that he would survive that? That's what I couldn't. That's what I was trying to, like, figure out from him.

[Larry Wheels]

He's just a troll.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, he.

[Larry Wheels]

Why would he target that dude that elbowed him in the face the other day? Like, what was there? I.

[Podcast Host 2]

And that was our. We know that guy. That's Dana White's boy. Like, security or. Yeah, his boy.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

Why go after him? You know? I don't know. I don't understand. I don't understand.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, that slap was, like, crazy form, though. Right.

[Larry Wheels]

I mean, it was hard as I could.

[Podcast Host 3]

Did you feel bad after or.

[Larry Wheels]

No, I don't regret anything. You absolutely deserved it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Have you seen the video of him spinning era getting around too? What was good with that spinning around?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Like, he was a kid in that UFC gym.

[Larry Wheels]

Oh, well, he was trying to troll me, saying, like, size doesn't matter and, like, experience will try and look oversized. I'm like, no, like, you're 140 pounds going into 300 pound bodybuilder. And I'm gonna prove a point that size absolutely matters. So I just grabbed him by the wrist and spun around like Matilda.

[Podcast Host 2]

Have you guys communicated since that incident?

[Larry Wheels]

We have communicated because, like, Rampage, Dean and I are trying to, like, like, rise above that and do shit together, you know, because we think there's, like, power, like, if we all work together and, like, trying to, like, just leave the wife out of it, you know, and we could be fine.

[Podcast Host 3]

I feel like ramp.

[Podcast Host 2]

So did he apologize in his way?

[Larry Wheels]

In his way?

[Podcast Host 2]

The Dean the great way?

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

What was the Dean the great apology?

[Larry Wheels]

So we have a video, like, with Rampage and I. Rampage, Dean I and Rampage is, like, mediating the two of us, right? And Dean, did he even, like, say I'm sorry? I don't know.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

He didn't. But yeah, he didn't say, like, I'm sorry specifically, but yeah, he was just like, okay, no more wife talk. Let's, you know, take this streaming to the next level. But yeah, that's about it.

[Podcast Host 3]

I feel like Rampage just gets to sit back and enjoy all this.

[Larry Wheels]

Oh, yeah, he's loving it.

[Podcast Host 3]

He can't really take sides because you guys are all boys either, so he just kind of tries to, but he seemed like he was drinking, having a good time too.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, he was. He was. And he was the one trying to talk Dean out of it that night.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. So are you guys now, like, planning on doing a trio streams all the time?

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, we label ourselves the largest, the biggest to smallest, obs pounds. So we're gonna be doing shit together. You know, as long as Dean, like, keeps the wife out of it, it'll be cool.

[Podcast Host 3]

I feel like Rampage, a lot of his content's, like, going out, going to the bars, being around women. So is that gonna, like, you're gonna be rolling with that?

[Larry Wheels]

We're gonna be judges at his next work competition. Really Gonna have Gerlock there.

[Podcast Host 3]

Is that okay with the wifey?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Well, I'm gonna be a judge as well, so as long as he's how

[Podcast Host 3]

you're about to say, you're gonna be a contestant. How's my profess, my boy?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

No, no, no. I mean, as long as I wouldn't be okay with him like approaching girls and stuff like that. And that's the conversation we had with Clive and he was like, I've been

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[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Larry. If he wants to take this thing to the next level, well, he has to make girl content. Whatever, whatever. And I'm like, you don't really have to. That's not the only way you have to do it. You have the best streamers in the world, speed, and that's not their content. You don't really need girls. That's like maybe appealing to his demographic or 20 years old. But once you're a certain age, like you really want to like just be going to south beach and approaching women left and right like it's not what's fun about that?

[Podcast Host 3]

I would watch Larry doing that, like walking around south beach just talking to like spring breakers or like, whatever. Spring breakers, I don't know, just like,

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

you know, 31 year old man. Why? Why is he going to be chatting down like girls who are 18, 19 years old.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't know about spring breakers.

[Podcast Host 3]

It gets popping on spring break. It's around. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Leave that to collab though, probably, right?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah. I don't know exactly. I don't think that's aspirational. And that's like what we want to do. And also when whenever they make content. Like what's Dean Rampage? It was never about the girls. It was like doing fun stuff. There were women around. Like we went on like a date with Dean, his girl Rampage and some random girl and yeah, it was not

[Larry Wheels]

like what got clipped wasn't anything to do with the two girls they invited. Yeah, yeah, right. Like even like that's why the girls there, like maybe a clip opportunity probably. But no to the clips that went viral from that evening. Anything to do with those two particular girls.

[Podcast Host 3]

You also, I've seen you do you gone viral so many times. I've seen your video with Togi. Like just stuff you've done in the gym goes crazy too. So you obviously don't need to do the girl content. Yeah, but I'm not trying to like start a few here, but it sounds like you have a lot of rules. And Ivan, Larry seems pretty lenient over here letting you be free spirited.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

What do you mean? Like, how am I being free spirited? I'm not talking to guys in the sense of like, like if there were girls around at the table, like I had no problem like Larry talking to them. Like just having conversation if you're like around people. But it's never me like approaching guys or talking to guys in any other disrespectful way, you know, So I don't know what you mean by that.

[Podcast Host 3]

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[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

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[Larry Wheels]

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[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

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[Podcast Host 2]

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[Larry Wheels]

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[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

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[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

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[Larry Wheels]

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[Podcast Host 3]

So you kind of gotta call the shots, dude. If you gotta go stream and make the money, you gotta do, you got to do. Right.

[Larry Wheels]

Well, like she was saying earlier when Clav does girl content as well for him, I guess clip goes viral. But the shit that I've done in the past that went viral, whether it's fitness videos or just nothing to ever because of girls, like, I don't think bleep. I have to do content with girls to stay relevant, to go viral, to grow my platform. And there's so much shit we can do outside of that, like international travel, jungle survival stream. Like, there's so much shit that we have outside of like doing anything with girls. I think it's gonna do great for us. So I don't feel like I'm restricted by any way because if that was the case, like, I would talk about it and maybe wouldn't even go the streaming route. But I'm so confident that without trying to leverage girls for content, we could still blow up. Yeah, we have been. We're just getting started. So I don't believe I'm restricting by any means because of not being able to do content with. With girls like Clav and Rampage do.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, I just IRLs it seems like that people just want to see like people in the wild in action outside. Like you can't necessarily go do like a gym stream every day and get the same effect that you'd get if you go out with Rampage Dean, have a few drinks and you're at the bar. Like anything can happen there. You kind of know you're going to get in the gym.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

So that's why I just think the IRL path is so different. Whereas you might have to evolve into something a little bit different than you might not normally do. Yeah, I guess it's kind of been happening.

[Larry Wheels]

It has been happening.

[Podcast Host 3]

I mean, you've been going viral. So I guess I'm saying, like, do you enjoy this new, I guess, stuff you've been doing?

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah. I mean, after 10 years of just doing strictly fitness content, it has gotten slightly stale where I'm looking forward to more novelty and more unique experiences outside of the gym, outside of like trying to chase world records, bodybuilding shows, or like this shit I've been doing like repeatedly for a decade plus now. Now we have opportunity, like with doing international travel, jungle streams, fun shit that wouldn't have made sense for my YouTube channel before streaming. But actually the streaming clips that are outside of the fitness realm that I've been in, I've gone so much more viral than anything I've ever posted. Like with crazy lifts or pizza strings or whatever.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's what I was gonna ask. How do you approach now a stream creatively as opposed to like a OG Larry Wheels video in terms of like, what's your objective content wise, based on what works now versus then?

[Larry Wheels]

I mean, the same principle works, like collaborations even right now. This is gonna help my streaming career. And doing stuff with Rampage and Dean, like getting creative and doing with that's not gym related. Like you said, this may be a double triple date with them or like is traveling with them and they have such big personalities that they can do anything and it'll still be entertaining, right? I believe, like, the core of like a good stream was like just being entertaining as an individual. Like, you can put Rampage anywhere and he'll make you laugh. He'll make you want to watch what he's going to do. I don't think it has to have girls involved all the time. Like, just because he has such a big personality, they can do literally anything and still be engaging with his fans.

[Podcast Host 2]

So have you done something for a stream yet that you've been surprised? Like, fuck, how did that not get clipped up? Like, are you still learning along the way what works?

[Larry Wheels]

I think I have a good grasp of it after doing it for three weeks nearly every single day. Like, for example, I just did a video with Derek Lorensford, Mr. Olympia. Now it's great for my YouTube channel. I still streamed it, but I streamed it because I know, like, the OGs will appreciate that, but I knew that wouldn't get clipped, right? Like, there was no, like, drama. There's no controversy. There was like, very few, like, comedic moments. There's more like a serious, aspirational kind of video that is great for YouTube and like, building a brand, but, like, not really great for going viral with clips.

[Podcast Host 3]

It's kind of funny how that works, isn't it? Like, when I did the show with Dean, I didn't even really think in the moment when he got pissed off when we went and did that, like, how big of an effect that would have. And then you just realize that people really just want to see people act like retards and fight and slap each other and be idiots. And that has so much more power and effect. Like, I brought in Sugar Sean. So Sugar Sean and Dean were talking and Dean's claiming he could be Ilya Toporia saying crazy to, you know, a former UFC champion, which you would think is great content. But the little clip of me and Dean almost fighting goes 10 times. You know, it. It's weird how the Internet is these days.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

They hate it, but they love. They love it.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, they love to hate, and they just love. Any type of controversy is so.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's just a long way.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

It's just going viral. Everything, like anything negative or whatever is perceived negative is just going viral. It's never like, they never clip the nice things I say, you know, or when I'm praising Larry, but, like. Oh, yeah. But the moment I say something and they can take it out of context, they're gonna too.

[Podcast Host 3]

It's like, for example, if Larry took you on a very nice date, instead of them being happy, they'd be calling him a fucking pussy.

[Larry Wheels]

Or like, actually, let's be on a leash. Like, he has to do that. She said so. Yeah. That's an.

[Podcast Host 2]

Is that ever. Does that ever annoy you?

[Larry Wheels]

What's that?

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, the comments?

[Larry Wheels]

No, because I don't spend all day, like, reading those comments. It could be it's just like punishment. Like, in the beginning, the first couple of days, I was just curious if people were saying, like, how this is being received. But then when I realized it was just all negative, I'm like, what am I. What I have to gain for reading this shit, you know? But it hasn't stopped opportunity, like, financially or, like, collaborations or anything meaningful. So I just turn off those comments. I don't turn off. I don't hide my comments. I just stop looking at them. I turn off my dms, you know, it's just all negative.

[Podcast Host 2]

What would you rate Clap as a mediator?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

I mean, I was. I was. I said yesterday on stream and I saw that get. Getting clipped. I'm, like, getting advice on the relationship about Clav is like, broke man telling you how to be rich. Like, it's just like, he has no enough experience to tell us, like, okay, this is how it's supposed to be. Again, he's only perceiving stuff off of the cliffs. And he said himself, he understands the, you know, clipping game and how can things can be spun out. So. Yeah, but he's a very intelligent guy. You know, he's just very young, and I think he still needs a lot of experience. We, obviously, we've been doing this for five years, so we know what we're doing. We know our dynamic, and clearly it works for us.

[Podcast Host 2]

So, Larry, what do you think about collabs? Like, looks, maxing, frame mogging, maxing, this max. What of all that? What do you think of that?

[Larry Wheels]

I think those terms are hilarious. Like, did he invent those terms himself? Or, like, is that Just, I don't know.

[Podcast Host 2]

But it has like gotten to like the older crowd now too, right? Like you see people like older people on the news. Like it's kind of like 6, 7

[Podcast Host 3]

where it's pretty funny.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hit that next level.

[Larry Wheels]

I mean we were. Was it South Beach? We were strolling, we were doing laps with Batali on. Was it South Beach?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, I think you did.

[Larry Wheels]

We were up and down south beach and this one dude came up, he was balding and he was like asking Clavic to rate him and like what he should do for his hairline, what pep out he should take. And I'm thinking, wow, like the impact this 20 year old has had on a generation with like looks maxing just being the best version of themselves. Actually pretty amicable. Like I was like damn good on you, dude. So I think I agree with his approach to some extent. Like he really does preach like, hey, you look better, you're going to feel better. More opportunity will come your way. Like attract people, have more opportunity. And I mean that's more or less the principle of how I've been living my life. Like I worked my physique, you know, my, my health and opportunity has been flowing ever since. So I think his approach at sometimes can be extremely. When he mentions drugs like prescribed meth and other he's on, I think I don't agree with that. But when it comes to like just improving his. Your appearance and like him thinking that, well, saying sending the mess that you're gonna get more opportunity out of life, I think he's right, you know.

[Podcast Host 2]

How do you think Vitaly's doing? He seems like. I haven't seen him in real life yet, but I've known Vitaly for a while too. He still seems a little like he's going a little wild. Not meant not mentally, but he, he doesn't seem as calm as I thought he would be after Filipino jail. Is he still like reckless as.

[Larry Wheels]

No, I think he's been patched.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay.

[Larry Wheels]

I think he's chill. Like I was expecting him to troll us like Dean did for example, and I was actually trolling him on the expectation that he's gonna troll us. So I told him first thinking, oh, he's gonna give it right back. But he didn't. Like he was very respectful, polite, chill. So I think he absolutely has changed since his 11 months in the Philippines. I think he has for sure he's been patched because I don't want him

[Podcast Host 2]

to get in like trouble again.

[Podcast Host 3]

You come back from that and just get Right back into streaming. Yo, he's goaded.

[Podcast Host 2]

I thought he was gonna come back more, like, just, like, a little more chill. And it's, like, right back to, like,

[Podcast Host 3]

straight first day back stream. Like, what the.

[Podcast Host 2]

He's like the Terminator. Vitaly.

[Larry Wheels]

You can't take him down. You cannot. I mean, you can't. He was, like, doing some IROH stuff with Clav and I on south beach, talking to chicks and trolling them a little bit, but still nowhere near like, as chaotic as, like, pre Filipino prison, in my opinion. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Have you. Have you done the Diamond Gym yet?

[Larry Wheels]

I've done that.

[Podcast Host 2]

You did?

[Podcast Host 3]

How recently?

[Larry Wheels]

This was, like, back in November. December.

[Podcast Host 3]

What's your thought on. It's so popular.

[Larry Wheels]

It is, like. So what they're preaching, what they're trying to push is, like, mental fortitude and, like, having the mindset to, like, get through hard shit. And when I went there, they made me do, like, burpees and sets of 50 to 100 and hill sprints and, like, really just got me uncomfortable. And at the end of the session, they're preaching, like, hey, like, I understand, like, this out of your comfort zone, but that's the whole point, to get comfortable being uncomfortable. Right. So they have, like. That's not how they train outside of filming.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

And I think they make everyone aware of that, but, like, when they have the cameras on, like, they're really trying to push that message. Yeah. So, like, that. I would never train that way. It's borderline crossfit, you know, it's. There's no rest period. Literally, like, for two hours. I didn't rest for, like, more than a minute.

[Podcast Host 3]

So, like, that's fucked. But, yeah. So it fucked you up. Like, you were surprised.

[Larry Wheels]

Oh, I was.

[Podcast Host 3]

Do they do everything with you that they tell you to do?

[Larry Wheels]

To an extent. Unk did a good chunk of it, but not all of it. Anka is about as heavy, if not even heavier than I am. I was shocked. He's a big dude. Yeah. And he was really there to motivate. He did all of the weightlifting, but when it came to, like, the burpees and the hills brands was jumping, like, at the end. I do it, like, every now and then.

[Podcast Host 2]

Were you ripping burpees, too?

[Larry Wheels]

Dude, Unfortunately, I was. Kicked my ass. I felt so out of shape. And this was when I was 40 pounds lighter than I am right now. So if I did it now, I wouldn't complete it.

[Podcast Host 3]

What are you putting on so much weight for?

[Larry Wheels]

I have to do open Bibleing later in the Year. I just enjoy getting bigger and stronger still. And I'm not over that just yet. Want to give it a couple more years and then I want to transition to. And transition to doing endurance sports.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, nice.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, I've never.

[Podcast Host 2]

I just did 100 miles like a month ago, dude.

[Larry Wheels]

How long take you?

[Podcast Host 2]

25 hours. Like, it was crazy.

[Larry Wheels]

Like, did you wrestle? Like, how do you rest doing that? I don't understand. How do you.

[Podcast Host 2]

What? Rest.

[Larry Wheels]

Like, how do you get through that?

[Podcast Host 2]

I mean, there's like an aid station every 10 miles.

[Larry Wheels]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

But I trained for like 72 days. It was just like a group of us. One of my. Gary Breca. Do you know him? He's like a biohacker. His son was doing it and he just told me he's doing it. So I was like, fuck it. Trained for like 70 days. Brad Crow.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, he's with Brad, the Nick's friend. Remember the guy? That's really funny.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did it with him.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, Yeah, I think I've seen it in his stories. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why you think you would do something like that?

[Larry Wheels]

And also I can't wait to drop all this muscle. Like it's uncomfortable. Like the back pumps. I don't sleep as good, clothes don't fit as good. I'm not as handsome. Like, it's something I've been doing for so long. I have a little more left in me, like maybe another year or two to push size and strength. And then I can't wait to just drop all this muscle, like going like bare minimum, trt, nothing else and just do endurance sports. I got inspired by Mexicoggins. He just did like 10,000 push ups on a live stream. I was like, holy. And then he was telling me how so in the mindset and how when he was. He's now in his early 40s, when he was in his 20s and 30s, like myself, he was all about like ego and like proving a point, being big, strong. Then as he approached the late 30s, he decided to transition into being an endurance athlete. And he said actually like the guys like winning the spartan races and doing like these ultra marathons are actually like in their 40s, you know. So, yeah, he said he couldn't do what he does now, like when he was in his 20s and 30s, because of his mindset.

[Podcast Host 2]

So what's something you'd want to do like as a endurance sport?

[Larry Wheels]

Like what's some challenges, Ultramarathon, spartan race. Like just to not prove a point. Well, it's prove a point to myself. Like I'M that I'm capable of it. You know that because that's all I've ever known is strength training and bodybuilding. Like, I've never really committed to anything else. So that's just such a big departure for what I've, what I've been doing these past 13, 14 years that I love to see, like, what that world's like.

[Podcast Host 2]

Have you seen the high rock stuff?

[Larry Wheels]

No.

[Podcast Host 2]

You never heard of that? That's getting big. How do you think, like, has bodybuilding changed a lot over the years?

[Larry Wheels]

I don't think so.

[Podcast Host 2]

I think like in popularity, is it not as popular as it once was? Are more people doing like right now more like.

[Larry Wheels]

I think more now it's more about aesthetics. Yeah, like looks maxing, being handsome, just I don't think. I think mass monsters still have their appeal and I think bodybuilding actually is bigger than it's ever been. But I think aesthetics and looks maxing is even bigger than bodybuilding.

[Podcast Host 2]

What's your like weekly routine like now with like lifting and diet and stuff?

[Larry Wheels]

I mean, my workouts haven't really changed much. I still focus on squat, bench, deadlift, like leading the workout and then I do my bodybuilding portion afterwards where it's like short rest periods, chasing the pump, trying to just get thicker and look more like a bodybuilder than a powerlifter.

[Podcast Host 2]

What's like the biggest tip for someone that wants to put on size?

[Larry Wheels]

Eat every three hours and be consistent. Don't miss meals even when you travel, you know, and just the diet that works is the one you stick to, right? I mean, there's so many diets out there. Don't need to get overwhelmed, just pick a diet, stick to it, track your progress. And if you're a hard gainer, use liquids, use protein shakes, make your own. I make two, three shakes a day where it's just like peanut butter, karbolin, banana protein powder. It's a thousand calories per shake. I get it down in 10 seconds, I chug it and it's way more efficient to me than like trying to get down a thousand calorie meal full of like plain chicken, beef, fish with rice and potato. That can take me 30 minutes. I have no appetite for it.

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[Larry Wheels]

So I like to just use Shake to get half my calories in throughout the day.

[Podcast Host 2]

How many calories you on right now?

[Larry Wheels]

6,000.

[Podcast Host 3]

6,000.

[Podcast Host 2]

What's the most you've ever been on?

[Larry Wheels]

10,000 and 10,000. I was bloat maxing, dude. I went from 240 to £300 in two weeks.

[Podcast Host 3]

That's crazy.

[Larry Wheels]

What?

[Podcast Host 2]

What, did you cut weight before that?

[Larry Wheels]

No, I was just like on this TRT stint for like a month.

[Podcast Host 2]

You've been £60 in two weeks.

[Larry Wheels]

Legit. No, legit body. What's that?

[Podcast Host 3]

That can't be good for your body.

[Larry Wheels]

Hell no. I remember I was. Because I put the weight on so quickly. My conditioning has never been worse. I remember going from my car in the parking lot in Dubai mall where it was parked to like, entering the mall and like, having to take a break and hold on to the railing after, like five minute walk. Like a small, like, brisk five minute walk. I was windy. Like, I put the weight on way too fast. Not sustainable. Strongly recommend against it. My approach was all wrong. Like ice cream protein shakes, fast food pieces dirty bulking, like fast, super dirty. It's not sustainable. I looked worse than I felt. I mean, it was horrible, horrible experience.

[Podcast Host 3]

What do you think about now? Tess is so popular and I feel like guys are getting on it so young, like even 18 or 19, 20, like I think Clav said he started taking it at 15.

[Larry Wheels]

I think everything's dose dependent. If you're gonna go on TRT at 18, 19 years old, I mean, I can't say don't do it because I've done it at 17, 18 myself to an extreme and I've been fine. Like there are some sides and have to put up with, but if you're using it responsibly and you have like a mentor to guide you through the process and you're not abusing it, where you're taking grams of gear, like right out the gates and you're just like using the bare minimum, which might be just TRT for some, maybe a little bit of anivar, some growth hormone, I think they'll be fine. But I think the mindset is important. Like, what are you doing it for? Like just to look better when you're naked, just to look good on the beach, Fill out your sleeves and your T shirt. Or are you doing it to be the next Mr. Olympia, to break world records? Like if you have high ambition then and you want to compete in non drug tested sports, that's the name of the game. And like you Getting on at 17, 18 years old is going to like give you a bigger Runway to get those goals. Yeah, but, but again, like, what are your, what are your aspirations? Like, do they want to be Mr. Olympia? Do they want to be like.

[Podcast Host 3]

Like most people take it now just because they want to be jacked.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah. Like, then I don't think it's necessary. Like you can just. I think if your diet's locked in and you train consistently, you're gonna get jacked. It may happen sooner for some than others, but you don't need tests and peptides to get jacked. Like, especially not 17, 18. I think you do need it if you want to be, you know, the next Mr. Olympia. If he's trying to get abs and like get a little bit bigger, dude, just lock in with your diet and train consistently. It's not that hard.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, you know, do you got. Does she. Do you go to the gym with him?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

You go every day too?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

I do. We don't work out together, obviously, because imagine just removing plates between every set. But I do, I do work out. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

How did you guys meet?

[Larry Wheels]

In Dubai, one of her dms.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, wait, so you went to Dubai?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

He lived in Dubai.

[Larry Wheels]

I was there for four years.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, wow.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, yeah. What did you originally move there for opportunity with Strongman? I got like A six week all paid for trip to learn strongman from a reputable strength training coach and prepare for my first full competition. And then after staying there, I was like, holy. Like, I love it here. And then shortly after I moved there back in 2019, the pandemic hit. And then everything in the neighboring countries and in the US like was shutting down. Everything was entering lockdown. All these restrictions starting to get placed. But Dubai was more or less open. Like, gyms were open, restaurants were open. So I'm just gonna stay here.

[Podcast Host 3]

We used to go to a sick gym.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's when we went. We went to Abu Dhabi during COVID

[Podcast Host 3]

too, for ufc, for the gym there. Remember Oxygen? What was that called?

[Podcast Host 2]

Probably we've been to a few gyms

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

just for men, right.

[Podcast Host 3]

It was so sick and no one was ever in there.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, that's probably Oxygen.

[Larry Wheels]

That's what it was.

[Podcast Host 3]

It's pretty big, right?

[Podcast Host 2]

Dude, is there a boxing ring in it? That one?

[Larry Wheels]

Well, there's one gym called Vanellos in Dubai. Akuz. Industrial. Industrial area. That's the one I was training at. We're all like the top bodybuilders go and influencers, whatever else. Now Abu Dhabi, like she was talking about, like, there's an Oxygen gym. It's tremendous.

[Podcast Host 3]

I think that's it.

[Larry Wheels]

It's empty. Like for the most part. It's because it's so damn big and this. I don't.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

It's like just men. So that's why it's so.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, it's just men. And just overall the gyms in Dubai, just on another level, like there are so many.

[Podcast Host 2]

The Middle east in general, they, they got it going on right now.

[Larry Wheels]

They do, yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Do you guys miss it there at all?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

I do miss certain aspects and how convenient it is, how safe it is. You know, like you never feel on edge, you know, you can go whatever time you want. Nobody's touching you, nobody's recording you, nobody's like, you just have so much privacy and peace that I do miss it. But also there is not a lot of opportunities. Unless, like, unless you have a lot of money, then you have opportunities. If you don't, like, it's really hard. And also, depending where you come from, you know, if you're from America, from the uk, from Australia, obviously you have more opportunities as somebody from Serbia or from other different countries, you know.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Did you ever think you'd be a live streamer?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

No, never. Like even that day we streamed. Well, he actually streamed with Rampage and he was saying like, I don't know, I don't think I could ever do it, so I'm not gonna do it. So I just like, I never thought I'll be like in like on social media posting like that ever, you know, like, and just like this whole narrative about me, like, even my mom was like, oh, I just keep seeing these videos. Like, I hate that they're pinning you this way. And I'm like, just let it be. You know, like they need somebody to hate on. So that's me. I'm like, I don't care.

[Podcast Host 3]

I'm trying to think of a, like, what if, what if for content. For content Larry went on like a gym date.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

But no.

[Podcast Host 3]

And you had to watch it so we could get your reaction and then watch later.

[Larry Wheels]

That's good. Try to say I should.

[Podcast Host 3]

My wife. No, like just, I don't know, just to get. No, get the streams popping.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

He collaborated with women before and like, I had no problem, like, you know, if he's collaborating in somebody's like in his. Like, you collaborate with a lot of women, a lot of strong women. Like, if that makes sense. Yeah, for sure. But if it's just like some big booty girl who just wants to get

[Podcast Host 2]

like, you know, can he put her through a workout? What if he's not flirting with her? What if it's just like strictly training?

[Larry Wheels]

Well, we actually brings from like doing a hot yoga session with this girl that's here in Miami.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Fa.

[Larry Wheels]

FA Fitness.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

Actually it's a big thing.

[Podcast Host 3]

She's Jack. I know her.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah. You know, if it's us together, then I'm like, I'm okay. But just like him streaming and you know, it's just. I know the ways you can be spun around. Like, I don't want to go through that, you know, like, I don't to want to see that. And that's. That that's my boundary.

[Podcast Host 3]

I know and I, and I respect that. It's just going around the clouds, the rampages. Like, I feel like it's going to happen unexpectedly.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Well, we, we don't. You don't have any plans with collaboration with club. Right. He lives here, we live in la. So like, I don't think those collaboration is going to be often. He was actually I was in that night when they were at, at Miami. Miami Beach. Right. South beach, walking around. I was in the hotel, so I wasn't there. So I was watching live and clap was like, oh, what did he say? Like $10,000. If you like, you need to make now content. Like approaching girls and Stuff like that. I was like, no, I was joking. Like, no, no, no.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well, he offered you 10 grand.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah. He was like, what if you got 10 grand to approach girls while knowing your wife is watching on live stream? I'm like, she'd probably divorce me after that. Not worth 10 grand.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, it's. It's crazy that people now. I mean, I don't mean to be that guy, but it's like the most talked about thing. If I ever look at a Larry Wheels Clip right now, it's both you guys and then some guy talking about your relationship.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

So that's why I bring it up.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

But Larry, does it like bother you at all that now this is where you're gonna be at for a while in the streaming world? Well, I think always getting questioned about your relationship.

[Larry Wheels]

I mean, I think it's like the rocket ship that's. That's taking our streaming career to the moon. If it wasn't for that, like, what would we be doing? For example, like, if it was just like Jim irls, for example, like, would that get Clip. Would that be getting attention? It wouldn't. Like, that's the reality of it. So, you know, us, like, talking about our relationship is not affecting our relationship, you know, off scene. So I have no issue with it. It doesn't bother me, you know, and it's just creating more opportunity, you know?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, we got a lot of opportunity just off of these three weeks. Like, it's been insane.

[Larry Wheels]

But if it was compromising our relationship where like we're fighting all the time because of it, or like we're in tears or we're like, it's compromising, like our peace of mind, then I say, no, it's not worth it. But it hasn't gotten to that point.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Who's kind of been advising you on streams and everything?

[Larry Wheels]

Rampage and Nadeem. Yeah, so they've been helping out. I mean, Rampage is doing it now for like nine months. I guess that's relatively new to the game. But he's been.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, Rampage, you forget. He's still new to it too. Right. But he's just crushing it that you forget.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's growing so fucking fast on Kick. I mean, like a quarter mil in like nine months from zero, you know, so. And growing on Kick is tough. Like it's a small platform in Twitch and you only grow when you're live. Even streaming eight hours a day, like six days a week, grinding, you know, so. But. But it works.

[Podcast Host 3]

And you've been streaming every Day, every day, some stream.

[Larry Wheels]

Like our longer stream now has been seven hours and on average, like three hours.

[Podcast Host 3]

Damn, dude.

[Podcast Host 2]

How many people you guys getting live?

[Larry Wheels]

So three weeks ago, when we started with 11 people, and that was a little bit discouraging, but we were being mentored and told, like, Listen, like those 11 people, your day ones, and I remember them and you know, just, it's gonna, like, the people will come. Just keep being consistent, show up, do fun. They're gonna come. And I'm glad we stepped consistent because now we're seeing like between 1 and 2000 concurrent, which is fantastic. For three weeks. I mean.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

And we are not botting views, you know, like, you know, a lot of these streamers, they're buying views, so they have the perception of like, oh, you're popping. But when other streamers we've been on chat and the way they're like, the chat moves, I'm like, it's not. And they have like.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like triple bing right now. You got to call them out.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

He see talkie that uk. Yeah, he's a lot. He's been talking a lot of trash. But he's the one who's botting, that's for sure. Then I mean, who else?

[Larry Wheels]

I mean, I've been told that nearly everyone is botting to some extent. Like, if someone's reflecting, like showing like they have 10, 15,000 concurrents, probably more like 4 or 5,000.

[Podcast Host 3]

Thousand.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

And there are websites where you can see like, actually who bought it. It's so cheap. Like, I. We didn't realize how cheap it is just to buy like a couple hundred

[Larry Wheels]

bucks, like ten thousand bot viewers.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well, the majority of people that see you guys are going to see the clips. So you could have 500 people and someone could have like, it's weird because there's people that actually do have 20,000.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Like, I think of like. Like Jinxy or Queso. Right. But you don't see clips of them all the time. You guys have way. You know, you have a thousand, but you get clipped up like crazy.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

So you're actually to a bigger audience, I think, in the grand scheme of things. But they only see that little clip, right?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

So, like the streaming. Streaming, just different.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

It is. It's different, like for both of us, like, especially for him, like, right. You've been doing something else different and you were never into. And it didn't have much controversies, and all of a sudden now, like, you're in all this drama, you know, so it's. It's it's different bad.

[Larry Wheels]

And streaming just gives you like an abundance of content. Like for example, before streaming I was posting one organic post a week on Instagram and now I have like five a day.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

So as a result like I'm getting like 5 to 10x.

[Podcast Host 2]

Are you slamming all the clips on your Instagram too?

[Larry Wheels]

And they do better than my fitness clips. Like way more numbers on the streaming clips than my fitness clips.

[Podcast Host 3]

I think that's pretty common with like every streamer. They get like five clips a day from their stream and they just fire them.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, dude.

[Podcast Host 3]

So like it's really changing. Not only just like the streaming content, it's changing for Instagram. You're helping people.

[Podcast Host 2]

Other platforms. Yeah, Instagram, yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

Well, you guys run the pod like weekly, right? Once a week or.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, once a week.

[Larry Wheels]

Have you ever. Do you guys stream as well?

[Podcast Host 2]

We do stream, but not consistently.

[Larry Wheels]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like last time we streamed it was. We did the 100 mile stream that got up to like 50, 000.

[Larry Wheels]

Damn.

[Podcast Host 2]

60 I think. But we, we've done like big streams like that, but we don't hammer it every day. But we're, we're still trying to figure out like it's harder for us our place in streaming.

[Podcast Host 3]

When we were streaming, dude, we were partying every stream. And once you set that as like the standard. Yeah, that's kind of when the camera starts rolling. All right. We gotta start drinking, gotta get girls around and then it's, it's difficult to figure out what you can do that's sustainable where you don't have to drink. When we're comfortable.

[Podcast Host 2]

We also know it works too like the girl.

[Podcast Host 3]

Right.

[Podcast Host 2]

But I'm, I'm. We're both 31 too now, so. Yeah, we can't be drinking, partying with girls every day. Like 20 year old Clav, who he's 20, he's not gonna feel a hangover.

[Larry Wheels]

Right.

[Podcast Host 2]

So he's a superhero still right now.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Right.

[Podcast Host 2]

But for us, it, it takes a toll.

[Podcast Host 3]

I couldn't imagine if I had brought like a girl, my girl or my wife on stream, I'd get like, that's a lot of pressure.

[Larry Wheels]

All right.

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[Larry Wheels]

It was in the first few days, but then you get to get callous to it, you know, and then you stop paying attention to all the comments.

[Podcast Host 3]

You guys have kids or not?

[Larry Wheels]

We don't have kids yet. I might be infertile. So maybe we need a sperm donor or something like that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh yeah, what's good with that? The rock or something?

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, I mean, look, if the Rock was volunteering and I have kids, like

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

maybe that was a joke, you know, like because every time we go somewhere somebody tells him, oh, you look like the Rock, you know, so that's why I was joking. Oh well, if you can have kids, maybe we get the rock. So at least we have a child that could look like you, you know, so it was just a joke and then just like spun around. Same with like my favorite tennis player. I was joking. We always joke, like even before, like I love, I love tennis and you know. Do you guys watch tennis?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

So Novak Djokovic, he's from Serbia, you know, like I grew up.

[Podcast Host 3]

I mean, you're picking up the rock or joke. He's the best tennis player ever.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

No, no, I was not saying for the donor to be Djokovic, but we were saying, I love Navajo so much. If I was ever to get a tattoo, I would get, like, Navajokovic face across my back. And it's just a joke. And then they, oh, she wants to tattoo another man. Whatever. It's just a joke. But they, I don't know. It's just dumb.

[Podcast Host 3]

Like, okay, so then what about, like, if you had to pick one woman to get tattooed on your back, she's going with the joker.

[Larry Wheels]

I don't follow any females. Like, I legit don't.

[Podcast Host 3]

I know. You sneak look around. You can't, like, you can't, like, anymore. Because there's, like, a way for them to see that. I've learned recently.

[Larry Wheels]

Exactly. But there's also watch history and all that. So there's no way around it, bro. There's no, like, sneaking around anymore. Like, that shit's done, like, and legit. I don't, like. I don't. I don't watch any female content.

[Podcast Host 3]

You should follow any girls on no

[Larry Wheels]

one for a little bit. Fafa. Could we collab a couple times in la?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

But even, like, I got tired of seeing, like, her butt on my feed, you know, I was like, all right, so no more fafa on my feet. So, like, we. We hid her account. So I don't want to see, like, any, like, ass or tits or, like, suggestive, like, explicit content because I have a history with addiction. Right. So I don't want, like, any triggers.

[Podcast Host 3]

What, like porn addiction?

[Larry Wheels]

Porn addiction?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Dude, is that, like, a gym bro thing? Because Brad had that too.

[Larry Wheels]

Did he talk about that?

[Podcast Host 3]

Masturbation addiction. But I guess it goes hand in hand, huh?

[Larry Wheels]

Robbie Morin.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, he's talked about it many times.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

I think I've seen the clip. Like, he's, like, stopped masturbating or something because he was just, like, watching too much stuff and whatever. Like, I think I've seen that he

[Podcast Host 2]

was putting up numbers. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

If you get on test, does that just increase your habits?

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah. So, like, when people talk about side effects of steroids, usually talk about acne, roid rage, making your ball small and stuff like that. But really the worst of it is your libido, like, getting out of control. Whereas, like, you get these obsessive sexual thoughts that I can't get turned off, and it's very uncomfortable. Like, and then if you ever, like, succumb to it now you just go in, like, this binge, like, porn spree, and obviously, like, things escalate. And then, like, you can't get, you can't just can't scratch that dick. It becomes a real. It can become a real problem.

[Podcast Host 2]

So, like, I never understood the porn addiction. So, like when you beat off.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

You just want to beat off again, like right after?

[Larry Wheels]

No. Well, like, because if I beat off

[Podcast Host 2]

once, like, I'm good.

[Larry Wheels]

Well, as a point, like as a porn addict, like, you don't want to finish because once you finish, it's so up, like the high is over. So like to prolong the high, you just edge and like, just like keep switching clips and you want to prolong that feeling, like euphoria before you come. So like, if you come like you.

[Podcast Host 2]

So you're beating off her time before you finish.

[Larry Wheels]

Well, not even. You're just like trying to make it last as long as possible, right?

[Podcast Host 2]

Because once, you know, I'm quick and dirty, bro.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, like, bro, don't explore the other way. Don't. Yeah, don't.

[Podcast Host 3]

How do you get off that addiction if you stay on the, the tests and all that?

[Larry Wheels]

How do you get off? Yeah, I mean, he's like learning to

[Podcast Host 3]

tape your hand to the wall.

[Larry Wheels]

Just walk around the handcuffs and I mean, you'll finally start humping the pill.

[Podcast Host 2]

You'll find the key, right?

[Podcast Host 1]

Just start rocking.

[Larry Wheels]

Larry just rips out of the handcuff, you start humping. I mean, like the right approach is like just channeling that sexual energy into like a person, like your partner, you know, that's the best way to do it because you can't shut that off, right? Like you're always gonna have that sexual desire. So just instead of your hand, he's like your wife, your girl, you know, that's the only way to do it.

[Podcast Host 2]

Sounds like a good solution.

[Larry Wheels]

That's the only solution. There is no way around it.

[Podcast Host 2]

What's your guys, like, dream stream you want to do or some big streams coming up.

[Larry Wheels]

We want to do like a multi day stream, like in the jungle, like where we visit different tribes and live their way of life. Like hunting animals and like wearing a loincloth and just like experiencing that. And that could be like, what tribe? We're looking that up yet? We're still looking that up.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Like somewhere in Amazon we went.

[Podcast Host 2]

Where was it? I forget what it was called, but have you heard of Forest Galante?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

No.

[Podcast Host 2]

He's like, he's like a big guy that's done a lot of discovery shit. He's like a legend in like animals, tribes.

[Podcast Host 3]

We went Vanuatu.

[Podcast Host 2]

Vanuatu. So we flew to Fiji and then we flew three Hours to this place called Vanuatu. Then we took a propeller plane to another small island, and then we took a boat for an hour to this island. So it was literally, like, in the middle of the Pacific.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And we spent 24 hours with a. A very, like, remote tribe. Like, as remote as it gets without. They're gonna kill you for sure.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

How did you communicate with them? You had the translator. Right.

[Podcast Host 3]

But they, like, sleep on a bamboo cloth under, like.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

This thick. You literally go. And they eat bats. We'd go kill.

[Podcast Host 2]

We ate bats. They go in the forest and they take sticks, and they look in the trees, and they whip the stick at a bat.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, they're literally. Yeah. And the bat falls out of tree, and then they club it to death.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

But I wonder, how does it work for us? Like, obviously, these people are not vaccinated. Their body so used to, like, you know, usually if they're exposed to outside world, they, like, they can die because all the viruses and stuff. So I wonder if it's for us the same, like, if you eat, like, it's called bush meat. Right. Monkeys.

[Podcast Host 2]

It was not good. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Just bring your own snacks.

[Podcast Host 2]

And we had to bring a pig, too.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

So we caught a pig before, and we had to, like, bring it as an offering.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. So be prepared to if you want to go to a tribe.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

Were you glamping or, like, legit, like, sleeping on bamboo? Like they were.

[Podcast Host 2]

We slept. No, we slept on the floor. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

It was terrible.

[Podcast Host 2]

Forest had some Xanax, so we popped a Xanax. So that helped a little bit.

[Podcast Host 3]

That was the only way to get through that night.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Because they also. Have you ever had kava cabo cava?

[Larry Wheels]

Is that a drug?

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, it's like the tree root cava. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

They made kava and we, like, drank it, too, like, out of the mud.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah. It's similar to Kratom.

[Larry Wheels]

Well, I've used Kratom a bunch, but never kava kava.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's like weed and alcohol, I think, combined a little bit.

[Larry Wheels]

But they're better than weed and alcohol individually.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's like together they take high concentrations. Like, you're, like, thinking, like, on weed a little bit, and then, like, kind of the happiness of drunk.

[Larry Wheels]

I think I'm like, a major downer. Like, it was.

[Podcast Host 2]

No, it's fun.

[Podcast Host 3]

There's some upper in there, too.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 3]

You'll be grinding your teeth.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. A little cocaine mix.

[Podcast Host 3]

But they drink it until they throw it up your stomach. So they. They're so bored that that's all they do. And they drink it until they throw up. So while you're sleeping you just hear people throwing up the whole night. It messes with your stomach.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

I would think they would get used to it but like they get so

[Podcast Host 3]

much, they just don't stop. Like I think I had like three or four bowls of it and I was pretty messed up.

[Podcast Host 2]

But if you want to go, we can connect you.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, it's out there.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's a real thing.

[Larry Wheels]

Like how long is that journey to get there you mentioned?

[Podcast Host 2]

Like I mean LA to fi.

[Larry Wheels]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's like right off the coast of Australia. So that's got to be like 12 hours and then another three hour flight, then a propeller plane and you're landing like on a grass.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, like landing.

[Larry Wheels]

24 hour trip.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

You'd take over and be the chief. They got nothing like you there, I promise you.

[Larry Wheels]

Are they big people?

[Podcast Host 2]

They're shredded. They're shredded.

[Larry Wheels]

Really?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Lean.

[Podcast Host 2]

Well because they're not eating. They're not eating any grains. Yeah, they're just eating fruit and.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah. Natural.

[Podcast Host 2]

Not like particularly tall.

[Podcast Host 3]

Size average.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

But you would stick out there, you'd be the man there.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah. Imagine they don't let you leave. You have to be or you know, the king of an island now he's

[Larry Wheels]

doing cobble all the time.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah. That bad, huh? But how did you guys have. Oh, you did the YouTube video. Not to figure out with like streaming connections.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

But not every place has like a starlit coverage, you know, like so we have to figure out where can we go and film that. It would be fun for sure.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah. But that's the kind of content like we're planning for the near future. And then organically. I travel frequently for like these different companies. I have like White Rabbit and pr. I'm going to Arnold uk. I'm going to Fi. Germany and there's so many trips that I'm already going on.

[Podcast Host 2]

Might as well stream it.

[Larry Wheels]

So I may as well stream it and then like visit neighboring countries and things to do like. Like while I'm going doing these work trips, you know, so we haven't. So it doesn't really. It's not, it doesn't take any real additional work. Like for example we stream now like at 5 o' clock once everything is done for the day. So before we would just like chill like relax, watch you know, tv, doom, scroll for a bit. But now we're just like hanging out with, chat, you know and it's pretty easy.

[Podcast Host 3]

Who do you think's been your favorite and least favorite collaboration.

[Larry Wheels]

Favorite, favorite club of all time.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, I mean, I guess because you've been doing this for a while.

[Larry Wheels]

I say, I think between half Thor the mountain and Andre Smyrv in Russia, least favorite, I think tiki talkie. He's a troll.

[Podcast Host 3]

When did you collab with him?

[Larry Wheels]

In Dubai. He came to the gym with sunglasses on like a necklace and he's just such a like douche energy. So yeah, yeah, fan. I wasn't a fan of him. Basket of all time between Andre Smyov and I'm not sure if any of his clips even going viral lately, just in the fitness community, but he's like seven hours from Moscow in this small village. Not really, it's just like a small town.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Larry Wheels]

And he's like 26. He's like got 26 inch arms, like 350 pounds. He can do one arm pull ups for reps. It's insane what he's capable of. Wow. And like one of the most impressive people I've ever seen seen and I've seen it all like doing fitness for over a decade and collaborating with everyone in the bodybuilding and strength training space and like he's up there, I think with the very, very best like of all time. He's insane. So yeah, between those two people, I went to do a two month training boot camp for Strongman with Half Door the Mountain in Iceland and I got to see like lava land, the Blue lagoon, which is like the best spot in the world. I don't know if you guys have ever been, but no, this, this spa like has this natural hot spring that had this like unreal like almost like AI looking blue tint to it and it's like the most luxurious, like beautiful spa I've ever seen. And I got to trim with him for two months and I got to see him pull a thousand pounds for reps and his energy was like nothing else. And then he has like the biggest support system I've ever seen. Like his mom and dad are there like almost every training session. His childhood friends, his wife, they're all there like almost every single training session and it's like wow, this is incredible to see like someone with this, this much support. Yeah, you know, sounds really cool.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's awesome.

[Podcast Host 3]

What are you guys streaming today?

[Larry Wheels]

Today we're working out with Aiden Ross and Cufflins.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, nice.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah, I've been following Cuff Him's a bit like saying like he's got like bigger utters than Big Markey. He's also Here in Miami. He's like £470.

[Podcast Host 2]

Aiden's friend, right?

[Larry Wheels]

What's up? Aiden's market?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, we met him like, like

[Larry Wheels]

I just see clips of him like jiggling his tits. Like, I don't know, like he's. I guess this guy that gets clipped a lot. So he keep. But we have a little back and forth about that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hell yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Do you guys walk into these and know that the trolling is going to

[Larry Wheels]

come for sure, you know, but like if we. We have thick skin and again, like we don't obsessively like read what the trolls are saying about it.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Once you like shut down your phone, the trolling doesn't exist, the hate doesn't exist, you know, like it's never in person hate, it's always online, you know, so you just. Yeah, it's whatever.

[Larry Wheels]

I had my first IRO troll here in Lamb the other day though of all time. Like I never had anyone to aim disrespectfully to my face, but this one guy did. It didn't process right away because it's never happened before. I'm like, did you please just say that? And I like was trying to register what he said like as I was walking away, but like shook my hand, took a photo and said like, you're dumb. Love yourself. But I didn't like register that to like a few minutes later. Like, does that really just happen? So that's got to be like from the streaming community.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Why the do these guys press you, bro? In person.

[Larry Wheels]

Maybe they want a viral clip. They want to provoke me. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

You know, you got that pimp hand ready?

[Larry Wheels]

It's, I mean, thing is like if I hit first, I'm getting sued so I gotta watch it. But I'd love for them to try me first so I have an excuse. Hit back. But I mean I'm expecting that to happen in the future. I see a lot of streamers walk around with security. Like clap had security. All of them have security and you have security something and like. Yeah, I get that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

I think people see like Larry, he's such a nice guy and you know, they think, oh, he's just muscle, he's not strong like in real life. Not just lifting weight, but he's actually a beast. Like anything he tried. He's so good at any sport. Like even calisthenics at his size, he's doing it so well. And like he did like an obstacle course. Like he's just like all around athlete and like he's so Strong. And I feel like that's why he's like, like so calm and stuff because he know he could actually hurt people and he doesn't want to do that, you know, So I don't know why people trying, like they just want to get their five minutes of fame but. But yeah, like, yeah, sounds like a

[Podcast Host 2]

supportive wife to me.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, me too.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't know what the hell people are saying.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Like, I've always been super supportive with Larry and he's just like this whole, as I said, like just being spun around but like he wouldn't be married to me for so long and we wouldn't be together for so long if I was like some bitch to him, you know, so.

[Podcast Host 2]

And I think some good clips. What's your, what's your favorite thing about Larry?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Huh? What's my favorite? I just love how non judgmental he is. Like we can talk about anything. He never, never judges nobody, not just me. You know how generous he is to people. Like, like he, wherever we go, he like makes sure like he tips people, he helps people out. Like he puts so many people on without getting anything in return. He just loves giving and helping people out. So I feel like that's what, that's what my favorite qualities about him, you know, like he's also very loving person, very like very gentle. That's what I love about him, you know, like he's genuinely like nurturing person and I love that. You know, like I don't want to be surviving mode with men.

[Podcast Host 3]

I could feel the gentle giant.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Dumb to around. Like dumb if someone around though. They're just stupid.

[Larry Wheels]

Yeah. Especially as our clips get pushed harder. Like it's going to happen eventually, you know.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if I got some like hating person. But so far it hasn't been, you know, like we, we went to Collecticon the other day and like some person came out like, you're Larry's wife. I've seen you in clips. Like how do you feel about all of this stuff? You know, like so they just like curious how am I feeling about it. But it hasn't been like, like direct hate like in person.

[Podcast Host 3]

How are you going to handle like the, the of chicks that are going to want to get their moment and they come when they're all over Larry.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Oh. Like they're, they're like I've seen one like liking his like every day trying to get attention or whatever.

[Larry Wheels]

Same chick every day liking all my pics.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

Yeah. Yeah. But I'm just like, I Don't care. Like, I don't feel insecure in, in that way. I mean, they're everywhere. They want attention. They get off of that. Like we had like a, like, you know, one of the girls that's been involved with him, she's an ex girlfriend, like, you know, of chase chick. She wants her five minutes of fame, like claiming she got into this podcast, she's been groomed into making only fans or whatever. But then it's so she's still doing it five years after relationship, you know, and her mom opened only fans after they broken up. So like, did you groom your mother into being an of chick? You know, it just doesn't make sense. So definitely they want attention. But like, I, I can deal with that one that once that time comes,

[Larry Wheels]

you know, like, oh, they're gonna get the pimp hand from you eventually.

[Podcast Host 2]

Do you have a pimp hand too?

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

I do. We're tough people. So, like, yeah, I'm very, like, I'm not a confrontational person at all. But if it comes to that.

[Podcast Host 2]

But it's ready.

[Larry's Wife (Ivan)]

It's ready. Trust me. We'll be looking to use it well.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. I appreciate you guys coming. This is awesome. Awesome. Larry Wheels.

[Podcast Host 3]

Larry Wheels.

[Larry Wheels]

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[Podcast Host 2]

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[Podcast Host 3]

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[Larry Wheels]

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