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EPG
Chetty won some fucking money this weekend. Called it.
Jesse
Did he?
EPG
Yeah.
Kyle
I mean, we.
EPG
I think everyone. Everyone here had Sugar by ko. I did not think Gaichi. I did not think Gaichi would pull it off. Honestly, I'm stoked he did, but I just didn't. Didn't see that happening.
Jesse
Crazy fights.
EPG
Insane.
Jesse
Everyone won, Chad.
Chetty
Everyone won big, Chad. What did you.
Jesse
What did you take, Chetty?
Chetty
Dude, I took everything. I spewed. I took Sugar, knockout, Gaichi, knockout, Gaichi to win. I parlayed Gaichi and Sugar.
Jesse
Wait, so did Gaichi. Did Gaichi knockout hit.
Chetty
Yeah, it counted, bro. Okay, If I spewed on, the pot is going up today. It's ridiculous. I spewed on the last spot. I'm like, it. Gaichi knockout.
Kyle
So they count that as a tko?
Chetty
Yeah.
Kyle
Or I thought it was like a doctor stoppage.
Chetty
Or they counted it.
EPG
I think the betting sites have ko, slash, tko, draw, or submission.
Chetty
Yeah, like, that's like a little leeway on it.
EPG
Yeah. Yeah.
Jesse
Did any of us see that happening last week or no. Did any of us?
Santa Cruz
No.
EPG
I saw Suga ko.
Chetty
I. I didn't see it, but I dispute it.
Jesse
Yeah.
Kyle
Yeah. I mean, I don't want to claim I did, but I, like, I was definitely pushing the, like, narrative of it's a fight, bro.
Chetty
That was a master class of striking. Like, I don't watch ufc, but that was sick to see. That got me. I'm watching every card now. I love that, bro.
EPG
It was. It was one of the greatest sporting events of all time because, you know, you have super bowl, you have NBA Finals, but it'll never. That'll never happen again. You'll never see that at the White House. It's something that's never going to be recreated. And how it went down that night was insane. It was the greatest sporting event of all time, in my opinion.
Jesse
Yeah, it makes UFC literally the best to watch is because no matter how favored you are or how much of an underdog you are, like, look at these last two fights. Hamza got upset to Toria. I mean, you can just never, never predict who's gonna fucking win in the end, bro.
EPG
Fighting is. It's a different fucking thing. It's like a primal activity. Of course it's a sport, but it's different, bro. It's. When there's an NFL team that's plus 800, there's so many things that have to go wrong for, like, them to get the upset in fighting. It's not like that. Like, somebody can use their Will and strategy and like, dude, that, that uppercut, that gate she was hitting, where it kind of goes in on a single leg, but he grabs the back of your head and uppercuts you, bro. That was beautiful.
Jesse
And if you go back and watch some of the shots that Toporio was throwing at Gaethje, bro, the body shots,
EPG
bro, I know, dude, he's hitting like a. He was hitting him to the liver so hard, dude. I was watching it with a pro Muay Thai fighter and he was like, dude, it's done. Because like, he's like, when you get hit to the liver like that, like, it's a good eight min minutes, bro. Of like, you're done. And I was like, it's like he got five hard shots to deliver. I was like. And Gaichi just survived, bro. He survived.
Jesse
My bet was over on fight time. I knew that was a locker roomie.
Chetty
I hit that too.
Jesse
Yeah, that was an easy one.
Kyle
I like, what. Did you see what DC said?
Santa Cruz
What the Eric Trump DMS or not the.
Kyle
That's something else. But like, he was saying something. But like, it plays a big part of like, the whole surroundings, the event. Like, the fact that it was for America, like, all those things I think is like, what made him. It definitely like helped him. Like, maybe it was just like another fight. He like went down from the sliver shots, but I think something like gave him some extra. Like, I just gotta kill this guy. Like, he dug deep. Like, it was sick.
Santa Cruz
This is the first thing I thought about. I don't think it's possible to be a striker and go undefeated in the ufc.
Jesse
Like, I totally agree.
Santa Cruz
I don't think that's possible. I think that, that that's what I
Chetty
first and then marab happened and it was.
Santa Cruz
That's what I'm saying. Like, Suga was going that route to Poria and then it's like, it's too hard to be just a striker and go under. I don't think it's possible.
Jesse
I totally agree with you. I don't think you can go undefeated as a striker because something like this is going to happen. You know, that's why you saw back in the day, gsp, even he admits it. He says openly that, yo, I had to change my strategy because, like, after he got knocked out, I think by Matt Sarah the second time, he's like, yo, I went back and changed my whole strategy. And like, if you do want to go on a crazy long undefeated streak, I feel like you got to be a wrestler.
Chetty
How. How about Sugar Boys? Sugar was electric. 4G. How was that in person? Sugar was.
Jesse
Sugar was electric, bro. I mean, the whole thing was just. I was pretty hammered too, because we went out two nights before. So like, by the time Sunday came around, it was like, it was one of those days where you just got to wake up and like, kind of start drinking right away. So just like.
Chetty
Yeah.
EPG
You went to Ilya's celebration party?
Jesse
The night before I went, we went to Ilya's celebration.
EPG
He throws a celebration party before every fight because he's like, I won already.
Kyle
Well, what was his energy like? Was he like, cocky?
Jesse
We walked in, we. We knew all those guys from when we did the stream. So like, we, we said a couple of them. It was all. It felt like I was in Europe in there. Like, it was all just like, no one was really speaking English, everyone was speaking Spanish, like, classy white wine. And. And then, I mean, to be honest, I was a little nervous to see Toporia because I hadn't seen him since the stream. Yeah, you know, since, since the, the infamous clip. So I was, I was kind of a little nervous, but like, no, we were. Everything was cool and like his whole crew, super cool. But I mean, he wasn't drinking or anything, he was just chilling, so it's not like he was partying the night before the fight.
Chetty
There's no shot I'm ripping anything like that before the night of a fight, though.
Jesse
That's what I was thinking. Like when I was there, I was just like, dude, even the mental exhaustion of having to like, like, this wasn't no social battery. Yeah, I assumed for some reason it was going to be like one table of like, just a dinner, you know, Because I thought it was a dinner, bro. There's like 100 people there. It's like, that's a lot of handshake, a lot of mental energy to like. You're probably repeating the same thing over and over and over again.
Chetty
It's like when a fan comes up to you, you know, he's just like, hey, how you doing? Good to see you guys.
EPG
Yeah, bro, I don't know why he would do this, honestly, like when I. It's.
Jesse
But he's been doing that.
EPG
But it's like, dude, like when I do like a meet and greet. You've done these too. Like, it's all good. You're not like physically exhausted, but by the end of the day you're just mentally exhausted. Like, you're saying you're repeating yourself, you're meeting hella people. It's all Fun. It's all good. But, bro, the night before a amateur jiu jitsu tournament.
Jesse
Yeah, like, dude, straight up. Honestly, like, Toria doesn't. Torio didn't need to see me the night before the fight. Straight up, like, he did not need to talk to me at all. He would have his thing. He's like, not seeing me in a.
Kyle
Like, he must be leaning into the marketing of, like, he celebrates a win before he gets it. Like, that was like, I got. Wonder how much of it is like that. You know, it's an.
EPG
It's an aura. It's an aura gamble. But like, he puts his
Chetty
balls.
EPG
No, it is an Oregon balls out there. Yeah.
Santa Cruz
He just went through a divorce. This is his first fight back. It's a huge.
EPG
I mean, I got respect for him, bro. Like, at least he does that, you know? Like, at least he puts himself out there.
Jesse
I mean. And it worked the last. It worked the last three fights before
Chetty
he could do whatever the he wants.
Santa Cruz
It was really sad to watch him lose if. And from my opinion, just like what that guy's gone through and then the White House, all this high expectation. I don't know. That was crazy.
EPG
It was crazy. But just I'm, you know, I'm a gaii fan. I didn't think he was going to win this fight.
Santa Cruz
People always sleep on GAII for some reason.
EPG
They do.
Jesse
He's 8 and 2 know. Who did he lose to? He got knocked out by Rex Holloway.
Santa Cruz
But, like, that was in the last five.
EPG
Oliveira, right?
Kyle
Or no.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, Santa Cruz. What was your honest thought of Josh Hokitz?
Chetty
That guy's odd.
Santa Cruz
As I didn't really like that. I'm gonna be honest.
Jesse
Which one? Michelle Obama or the press conference?
Santa Cruz
I just think, like, my take from that was like, dude, like, if he went and said that on his own platform, on his IG or something, dude, do whatever you want, but when you use, like the ufc, the White House platform, you kind of like, you're pretty much including Dana and the present in whatever you do at that point.
EPG
I did not. I didn't. I didn't like it. I didn't like the whole calling Michelle Obama, man. Like, former president. Am I gonna chuckle?
Santa Cruz
Yeah.
EPG
Am I gonna chuckle at how crazy it is? Yeah, sure. But it's like, I don't with that. Like, no. Like, honestly, man, Obama served this country. And you can have your differences of opinion with whoever the sitting president is, but, like, they're. They are serving this country. And like, that is the whole theory
Jesse
with her being a Man, too, like, if there was more evidence, I maybe would have liked it.
Chetty
But like some deep conspiracy Chetty tech. She's a. It's all set up. She's a. She's a reptilian.
Santa Cruz
Yeah.
Kyle
It's just.
EPG
There's not any legit.
Chetty
I was geeking.
Jesse
She's a black lizard with a. Is the conspiracy theory.
Chetty
I'm with it 100%. I believe it too.
Santa Cruz
There was actually a video of Trump because Hokit gave Trump his necklace. I mean, that was probably the most viral thing you could say in the mic. So I guess if that's what he's
EPG
going for, he did a good job.
Kyle
But he did his job.
Chetty
Like he said that for a reason. Fellas, he's got the insider.
Santa Cruz
Trump took the necklace. He gave him a necklace. I think it was of Hokit and Trump kind of took it off. You could kind of see his reaction. You could see he was a little bothered by that too.
EPG
No, man, because, dude, Trump, despite all this stuff, he's not going around. He's not like he has respect for President Obama. Yeah. So I didn't fuck with it. But like, I, I get, I get why Hokit does that.
Jesse
I feel like it didn't play out too politically and shit like all the haters were saying before the fight. Right. Like, I feel like it. Yeah.
EPG
No, overall, that's the one thing that the really left media is clinging to that Hokut said this and this is platformed and it's like, bro, if, if you, if any of them knew the history of Hokit, he says, crazy. And you know, overall, no, the event was in my opinion, an amazing celebration of mixed martial arts and the United.
Santa Cruz
I think it was the most well done sports sporting event I've ever seen in my life.
EPG
Yeah.
Santa Cruz
Every walkout was perfect. Walking out with Medal of Honor, you know, veterans. Each walk out, each walkout was from a different area of the White House. It looked like at least, like it was just perfect.
Kyle
I don't think it's so annoying that it even has to be a political thing.
Santa Cruz
I didn't see any politics involved whatsoever. So I thought it was.
Jesse
Well, I think it was good they didn't have any other like random world leaders there and shit too. Right. Like, they kept it.
Santa Cruz
Like, I also didn't see any fighters there in the audience.
EPG
Yeah, they weren't panning to too many fighters. But, you know, I also, you know, they also didn't really show that many people. There was, I think if you probably
Jesse
saw it on the tv, but it was a ton of military, obviously.
EPG
Yeah. Which is great.
Jesse
Like, it was all. Yeah. Like. And they're all. Probably all fans of, like, us and, like, all our demographic, too. So, like, it was.
Kyle
You should experience.
EPG
What was it like? Like, getting there. Like, did you have to go through crazy security or what?
Jesse
Not really. I think that was all prepped beforehand. Like, all the names had to be sent in beforehand, which probably brings us to the story, too. You guys saw Salim missed the White House fight?
Kyle
How? Wait, what.
EPG
What happened? Him and Big John are in a hotel, and it looks okay. They're gonna go to the fights. That's what I'm seeing from a third person point of view. I'm like, oh, these boys are stoked.
Jesse
Lami got a day kill before the fight. He was fine. He was like, darty. He got a kill. No, no, the day of the fight. The day of the fight, he. He met a random girl on the street, and I, like, I walk. I walk into the lobby of the hotel. We're like, getting ready to leave, and some. Two fans are there, and they're like, yo, Saleem's with my sister.
Santa Cruz
And.
Jesse
And I'm like, oh, like, where is he? And then, like, the boys are like. Like, Gabe told me, like, Celine's banging his sister right now. Just having a drink with this kid at the bar. And then Celine comes out. He's not even like, I don't know what happened to him. He just, you know, he got into Lamy mode somehow.
Chetty
Yeah.
Jesse
And then he's like, bro, I can't do this. I can't go.
Chetty
And.
Jesse
And then like, oh, we all just kind of snapped here, bro. Like, we. We're like, bro, like, we wasted a ticket on you. You're like, we can't. We couldn't bring anyone else, too, because it was under his name.
EPG
Yeah.
Jesse
So we're like, bro, you wasted a White House ticket. And like, we're just like. He was just complaining. We're like, bro, just go then.
Chetty
Because he's the biggest UFC guy of all time, too.
Jesse
Yeah. And I. Exactly. I don't want to let my vibe be killed, too, because, you know, I was happy to be there and lucky to be there.
Chetty
Big L from Lomi. Dude, what? The.
EPG
Big John's hotel room looked disgusting, bro. Literally, like, what I see in there.
Kyle
Who won this fight, huh?
Chetty
Yeah, dude, I'm sharing a room with Big J in two weeks at Pinehurst. I told him if our room looks like this, he's actually. He's out.
Jesse
This can't be big Js. You know, big Jay, though, he's chill. He's. He. He's. You know, he knows.
Chetty
This was a. This was a Lamy.
Jesse
This is just, like. I just.
Chetty
It's.
Jesse
I don't know how you. You missed the White House on the floor there.
Chetty
He threw up in my suitcase at the Hole in one challenge. Lami's.
Santa Cruz
Yeah.
Jesse
But no, once we got there, like, walking in and just obviously seeing the. The scenery, it was. It was very surreal.
Kyle
Did you go in the White House?
Jesse
No.
Kyle
Have you ever?
Jesse
We went, like, a month ago. I went a month ago.
Chetty
Oh, Survives in there.
Jesse
Just go inside the White House.
Chetty
Yeah. Just nice as.
Jesse
To be honest, it's a little. I mean, Steiny's been in there, too. I think it's a little old.
Santa Cruz
It's.
Kyle
It's old.
Jesse
It's a little underwhelming.
Santa Cruz
It's just like, old house in South Carolina.
Chetty
Like, Trump Doral's Nice as. When you walk in there, that's probably nicer in there.
Santa Cruz
Does Saleem. Like, is he embarrassed? I mean, to most people, this is, like, pretty insane.
Jesse
I'm not sure. I have not talked to him about it.
Chetty
I'd be. I'd be more shook than the hole in one challenge, and I got ripped pretty good from the Internet.
EPG
How do you not. I don't. I still don't understand. Like, he just, like, was too up to go or like, he didn't like, situation.
Chetty
That's not even a stooge.
EPG
No.
Jesse
He wasn't even racked or, like, that drunk. That's what I was. I was like, dude, you're fine. Like, it's just. But I didn't. I don't even know. It's just. I can't.
EPG
You don't have time in that situation. You're like, I'm gonna go to the fights. Like, if I see you there, I see you there. Yeah, you got to do your thing.
Kyle
Like, if you could sell a ticket, do you think it's, like, 100 grand?
EPG
It'd probably be more because it'd be more than NBA Finals. A lot of those tickets, I think, were going for a couple hundred thousand. Yeah.
Jesse
That's crazy.
Santa Cruz
Yeah.
Jesse
No, I know. Dana was getting blown up for sure.
Kyle
A lot of people asked him a couple favors.
EPG
Dude, it was insane, bro.
Jesse
Yeah, it was. It was really, really cool, bro.
Kyle
The whole thing was iconic. It was.
Jesse
I. I'd honestly want to go back and watch it on tv.
Santa Cruz
And how heavy was the security? Because some dudes. There was a whole thing that Five people got arrested today for conspiracy to. I think they were trying to bomb the event. Drones.
EPG
We saw that. Yeah, yeah. FBI.
Chetty
Yeah.
Jesse
We were saying, we don't know if. We don't know if this was real or is this Cash Patel just trying to look like a beauty.
Santa Cruz
Who knows? But was it. How heavy was the security? There was no thought of, like, anything happening. Felt pretty safe.
Jesse
Yeah, I felt completely. I felt completely safe in the moment.
EPG
There's so many snipers around, bro. It's like.
Jesse
There was snipers on the roof at the press conference. I noticed that.
Kyle
Dude, the.
Jesse
The press conference was crazy, too, bro. Like, them walking down from the Lincoln Memorial.
EPG
We could hear y' all chirping in the press conference.
Santa Cruz
Oh, yeah.
Jesse
So you heard Celine was bundled there, too, bro?
Kyle
Yeah, dude.
Santa Cruz
Yeah.
Jesse
You heard him screaming? Yeah, dude, he's just screaming, nonsense, bro.
EPG
Yeah, dude. It was insane.
Santa Cruz
And then.
EPG
You know, the crazy thing about this is.
Jesse
It's crazy, bro.
Santa Cruz
It's pretty embarrassing. I'm not gonna lie.
Jesse
It's very embarrassing, bro. Shahidi was furious, dude.
EPG
I don't know how you missed that.
Santa Cruz
Yeah.
EPG
But there was a lot of, like, negative US Sentiment in, like, comment sections and stuff leading up to this fight. I've been posting about it a lot this week of, like. I don't. I really feel like the. A lot of the younger generation hasn't read, like, basic stuff about World War II, the American revolutionary War. Like, it's getting kind of to this crazy place. I did a post today listing the top 10 countries by population, and I'm like, where would you rather live? Because it's like, China, India, Bangladesh, Russia, the Philippines, you know? And it's like, we got to compare apples to apples. People go, oh, well, I'd rather live in Switzerland. Switzerland has fucking less people than North Carolina or is around the same population.
Santa Cruz
What's your point? That there's lack of education right now?
EPG
No, my. My point. My point is if you compare apples to apples with population, the United States is clearly the best place in the world to live and raise a family. There's not even a rational debate. And so we have a lot of stuff to improve on in this country, but we can actually criticize our leaders. We can ask for better leadership. We can do stuff like, go, Go do that in China. Go protest in China. Go protest in Russia.
Santa Cruz
I agree with you. I think it's getting.
Jesse
You can't even whisper that in China.
Kyle
I've been there.
Santa Cruz
There is too much here, and it is. I mean, there's a lot of here.
EPG
We can speak on it.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, we should speak on it. And it's like, even this Mary, the mayor election here in la, completely, it's like, it's pretty clear. Like, there's some fishy going on. Yeah. And it's complete. I haven't even heard of this other lady. So Spencer Pratt's now suing Karen Bass with her brother. Karen Bass's own brother is going against her for his house burning down la. You can't write this, bro.
EPG
It's intense.
Santa Cruz
It's like a Simpsons episode. It's embarrassing. Yep. So, yeah, that. Just the fact that that's where we're at. I. I am tired of people complaining about this because it's, like, ridiculous here.
EPG
Yeah. It should start off on the basis. It should start off on the basis of United States is the best, like, experiment on earth and it's the best place to live. And now let's try to make it even better. But for a lot of the younger generation, it starts with this idea they have in their head of the United States sucks. But it's like, bro, you're thinking, where. Where else would you want to live? I'm genuinely asking people like, you can pull up.
Kyle
You can Google Japan, but Japan isn't
EPG
even on that list of top 10 countries or population.
Santa Cruz
Saw someone stopped you on your way into the White House.
Chetty
Oh, yeah, the TMZ guy. That was crazy.
Santa Cruz
Someone stopped you and said, hey, it's only about, like, what. What's your. Would you ever run for office? And you're like, dude, you know, I don't think politics. You don't feel a difference where somebody. Something like that was your response.
Jesse
But it's like, I mean, I think. I think like, in areas of politics, you can obviously make a difference. Like, maybe. Maybe even lower levels of office. You can make a difference.
Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, you'll maybe agree, but what I'm. What I thought about that is too many people. Too Many people dedicate 10 years, five years of their lives complaining about something that is not going to really affect them. Instead of, like, that's like an excuse. Oh, let me make these excuses. It's this fucking merits. It's like, dude, just focus on yourself and your life and your career instead of just blaming everybody else and blaming the country. And you will go a lot further and be less affected than you really think.
EPG
Because, like, 100. I just want people to have a rational explanation. If they say they hate the United States so much, I would love them to pull up that list of top 10 countries with population and tell me where they'd rather live. And when you say something like, I'd rather live in Switzerland, well, okay, good luck immigrating to Switzerland As a United States citizen. You have to be in biotech. You have to be an Engineer. It's a 10 year process. They're not letting people in. You say you want to go. People said in the comments they want to go live in Costa Rica. Costa Rica has less people than Alabama in the United States has around the same population, 5 million. And it's like, oh, Costa Rica doesn't have a military. That's so cool. If we didn't have a military, we would not exist tomorrow. It's like, people don't compare apples to apples. So how do you govern over 330 million people? The United States is doing a decent job at it. You know, people go, oh, well, we want in. In Indonesia, you can buy a house for 200 grand. It's because they have basically slave labor. Yeah, it goes so many.
Jesse
I agree with that too. I don't know why people always think that. It's like every other government is like, not evil and the US Government's the only evil one.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, yeah, go.
EPG
Go get involved in politics.
Jesse
Any country would swap spots with the US if they could.
Santa Cruz
Like, the other point I want to make people, I'm sure Jesse Santa Cruz, you guys get this too. It's like, oh, you live in California. Like, you live in that high state income tax liberal. I'm like, dude, I love this place. Like, yeah, you're right. Like, yeah, there's not everything's perfect, but it's beautiful here. It's an amazing place to live. Like, people.
EPG
People just haven't talked to actual immigrants. Like, hey, talk to my ex, immigrated here. Go, go talk to her. Be like, why did you come here? My wife's family. Why did you leave Mexico and become u. S. Citizens? Talk to them. And if for people commenting they'd rather go live in Mexico in the comments, like, go get involved in the government, Mexico. Go criticize them. Look up how many people go missing in government every year in Mexico.
Jesse
What the.
EPG
It's crazy, bro. Yeah, people are delusional. And then another thing that kind of ties in with this is there's a lot of the young generation that thinks every single thing is fake with these fights. The amount of videos I saw that this was scripted. There were rocks in Gaichi's gloves, dumbass. Like, oh, they let gaethje do steroids. That's not even how steroids work. Look, at the Enhanced Games, you can't. Oh, Gaethje, you can do steroids. You're suddenly going to beat Ilia Topuria. That's not even how that works. Even if that was a fucking thing, which it's not, people think every single thing is.
Jesse
Theories are just out of control nowadays too.
Kyle
It's.
EPG
And I get where it comes.
Jesse
I've been into conspiracy theories since fucking like 911 and shit too. Like, I've always been into it and now it's just like, now it's just like everything's a conspiracy theory, bro.
Santa Cruz
All these small accounts that have like 2 or 3,000 followers post the craziest shit for engagement farming.
Kyle
What the Is this?
Chetty
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EPG
It's the tape from his fucking. It's the tape from his fucking gloves.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, wait. Click on that page though. Go to the chicken king, mma, bro.
EPG
It's the clearest example that you've never. If you believe some of this shit, you've never played a sport.
Santa Cruz
Followers like, he's clearly just trying to get engagement on the page.
EPG
It's the clearest thing that you've never played a sport or you've never sparred anybody. If you think that she was fake, like, oh yeah, you think Ilya's orbital bone is going to break even? Even with the Knicks shit. People are like there was magnets in the ball. It's like you just never played a sport. It's what happens when two teams or two fighters that are close in skill go up against each other. You occasionally get a fucking amazing last minute result. What happens?
Jesse
People ask me that all the time. Are the fights rigged?
Kyle
Like, he's made. He made this post to get like engaged. He's probably selling a book or something. Like, it's like, it's so annoying.
Jesse
What was with that? What was with that Eric Trump DC shit? Was that just completely fake too?
Santa Cruz
I can tell the brief breakdown because I looked into that because it was crazy and it was covered by Everybody. But apparently AI account that was impersonating Eric Trump DM'd DC asking for if there's inside info on the fight. And DC went and tweeted out his DMs. And he was like, I can't. I can't not expose this. And then he deleted it pretty quickly.
Jesse
And surprised D.C. did that.
Santa Cruz
Right? He. He definitely tweeted it right. Santa Cruz or Jesse. Do you guys know he.
EPG
He did tweet that he. But whether that was him being hacked or the Eric Trump DM was fake is yet to be really figured out. The craziest thing about it, in my opinion is like, there's a group of hackers. There's two groups of hackers. There's one that just go for the money. They go into Elon Musk account and they tweet, hey, send crypto to this address and I'm going to double it. Honestly, if I was some evil hacker, that's probably what I would do than just trying to get money and go, like, live peacefully. But there's another group of hackers. They arrested a lot of these guys. They were called the Lowell Sector or something, where they just. With people, they just like creating controversy. They would go into the FBI's website and put dicks on it, stuff like that. This seems like that vibe where right before the fights, they're trying to create this, like, controversy about betting and Trump. And that's kind of what this seemed like in hindsight.
Kyle
So they do it from his account. Like, from Eric Trump's. It looks like he's actually DMing you. Yeah, I mean, I don't hate on DC for being like. I mean, he's a true. Like, he loves the sport. He's just like, what is this? But, like, yeah, if it is, how do they prove it? That. That's. That's fake.
Jesse
Eric Trump would probably ask someone else, like, besides DC too, you know, and
Santa Cruz
maybe not over Twitter. Dms? Yeah. I don't think he would put it. Hopefully he wouldn't put that in writing. I think it's pretty funny, though, how much like, Dana just has to deal with like, that's like 30 minutes before the fight. Everything's about to happen, biggest stage. And then he's like, what the. I gotta deal.
EPG
Trump's sitting next to him. Like, what the is this?
Santa Cruz
You know, Dana, what did you dap up Baron?
Jesse
I didn't.
Santa Cruz
I saw Shoddy with Baron. You send it with Baron.
Chetty
I just saw that Baron's drop in a beverage company. Like one.
Santa Cruz
Yeah.
EPG
Doing like a yerba mate. I talked to actually, his team over there. I was chopping it up.
Chetty
Solos or something. It's called. Looks like a little Florida beverage.
Jesse
No, I didn't.
EPG
That looks like a healthy yerba.
Santa Cruz
Any, any, any dap ups over there worth mentioning?
Jesse
We were chilling, we were chilling with Kai Trump a little bit. Talking about golf with her. No, I mean it's kind of, it was kind of the usual suspects there. Not a lot of celebrities wanted to go to the White House fight I guess.
Santa Cruz
Right.
Jesse
Like McGregor is going to be more star studded than the White House fight.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, I sent him a long message when I was lit.
Jesse
Let's talk about that.
Chetty
What?
Jesse
To who? McGregor?
Kyle
Yeah, he, he, he responded.
Santa Cruz
He likes it.
Jesse
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EPG
I know what Gaichi should do. Gaichi should chill and wait to see if McGregor somehow beats Holloway. If McGregor beats Holloway, Gaethji calls out McGregor and they do the one of the biggest fights of all time. In human history. If McGregor doesn't beat Holloway, I think what Gaichi should do is announce his retirement, do a special thing, and then he should chill for nine months, maybe a year. He should do one boxing fight to get a big bag of money.
Jesse
Can't get out. He's not out of his contract, though.
EPG
But if he retires, right? If he like.
Jesse
No retires.
EPG
No.
Jesse
I think you got to always fight your way out of your contract.
Santa Cruz
Armon is real fucking G and he's a fucking beast. And he has a real fucking following. Like, there's no reason.
Jesse
I mean. I mean, how is Armon not automatic automatically next.
Santa Cruz
I don't know how. He's not like, fighting and getting. Dude, that guy, I mean, he.
Jesse
He fucked up that one main event, but he's. He's done his prison sentence, he's paid his dues, and he's got a way
Santa Cruz
bigger fan base now than he did back then.
EPG
He's a huge fan base. I hate when people think that the social media, they're like, it's just social media. It's like, no, that. That is the people that watch the fights. Yeah, bro. Armin. Armin Gaethje would be huge.
Jesse
I think it's going to be Ilia.
EPG
Ilia.
Jesse
Patty Pimblets the fight to make next for Ilia.
EPG
Yeah, that would be fire. I think everyone would get juice for that.
Jesse
I mean, Ilya is going to probably
Kyle
heal up, but he's probably taken, what, six months off. Like, he got up, dude. If he has a broken.
Santa Cruz
I actually don't get what Gaethje's fists are made of, bro. Because Patty Pimlet and Hori's both, like, their faces, they look different people, dude.
Kyle
Even Khabib. Khabib said that the. The hardest he's been hit was from Gaichi. Like, it's like the gates.
EPG
He has this weird, like, dude, it's farm boy.
Kyle
Almost like Tyson just like rips those hooks into people. Like, he throws his whole body into it. Like, I bet you, I'm telling you
Santa Cruz
from experience, when you grow up and you have to do in the backyard and around the house, it gives you different strength.
EPG
That's why you have hands of stone.
Jesse
Steiny's private tennis instructor made him pick up the balls after practice.
Santa Cruz
Gabe's never been the same. Made that boy bisexual. I hit him so hard, bro. Like, I will also tell you this Nina drama sent me a very nice dm.
EPG
So Beef.
Santa Cruz
Glad Beef. Yeah. She. I said some nice words. She reached out, sent me a long message.
EPG
So Nice. You guys are gonna do a stream soon.
Jesse
That's true. I saw a post about Nina too. Like, someone's like, for all the hate she gets and shit. Like, look what she did with Armand. Like, she literally brought out Armand's personality and kind of. If you're looking for fight interviews, there's a lot of outlets to go for that, but she's really great at bringing out fighters personalities, love for the game.
Chetty
Steiny just had to throw a little bit of he.
Kyle
I mean, she. She got a really hard job to be an influencer for the ufc.
EPG
That's.
Kyle
That's a hard job to, like, not be hated. Like, I don't.
Santa Cruz
Dude, she has 99.9 of just males who probably, like, want a banger just judging her and throwing shade at her.
Jesse
So you and the 99 are the 1%.
Santa Cruz
I'm showing love. No, I'm saying. I'm saying, like, the 99.9% are just all male.
Chetty
I'm saying. Yeah.
Santa Cruz
Trying to call me a female saying,
Jesse
you said 99 of her fans want a banger. So I said, are you in the middle?
EPG
You're 99.
Santa Cruz
What I mean is 99.9 are, like, just males who, like, are just a woman.
Chetty
Do you want to ban Nina for the clip?
Santa Cruz
No, no, she's a. I have a mutual. We have a mutual respect for each other. That being said, she's definitely good looking, very sweet.
EPG
She's a legend, bro. She's honestly crushed the ufc, like, media game, and she kind of created her own role within the company, which is pretty gangst in its own right. So. Yeah, and she does, like, help build up these fighters. It's wild, dude.
Santa Cruz
Like, oh, she does.
EPG
She really has, and I don't. Dude. Yeah. So the next fights, I don't know what's gonna get, like, made next. I do like that Patty Ilia, because now people are probably looking at Patty, like, wait, Patty's pretty good. He went to decision with Gai. You know what I mean? Like, it makes Patty kind of look better in a way.
Santa Cruz
It was kind of weird to me to see, like, they released the fight purses. I think Sugar sean made like 600k. I don't know why. That was just kind of weird to see.
EPG
They all make more than that, though. There's, like, the fight purse, then there's like, this ufc, like, back end pay. Like, there. There's a lot of, like.
Santa Cruz
Like, when I see Pereira make 10 million, that's what they're claiming to go up a weight class and fight On. I'm like, that's a no brainer.
EPG
People saying Ilya quit. It's Bro, he, he. I don't think that's quitting, you know, he. Dude, the doctor wanted to stop the fight and he was like, no.
Jesse
Once you imagine that happened, bro, I
EPG
was joking that, that there's going to be snipers on the fucking doctor, you know, like, lazy. The doctors will look down, there's going to be a laser beam. He's like, all right, I can't stop this fight.
Kyle
Dude, that's so funny. We made the same joke. They're going to fucking snipe this guy if he fudgeing calls the fight.
EPG
I've never broken an orbital bone. I've broken my nose before. There is zero way I would go into a round of a fight with a broken nose, let alone a broken nose and orbital and whatever other damage he had. The dude's a warrior. I don't like this idea of, oh, he quit. Like, I don't like.
Kyle
Yeah, but 99 of the people saying he's a and quit have never even been punched in the face. It's like, shut the up, bro. Like, I guess the only argument would be like, he loses his record and it's at the White House and it's like, just, you're already up. Like, just go die in the ring. And in like a metaphor. But like, I don't know. I don't think he could see, dude. I literally don't think he could see.
Jesse
Like, do you guys think we'd see any, like, demeanor changes from Ilya? Like, is he gonna keep doing the fight, the celebrations before the fight, or is he gonna kind of.
Kyle
Oh, he'll switch.
EPG
There has to be a demeanor.
Santa Cruz
I think you have to adjust. You can't carry that same energy if
EPG
you don't still have like that, like.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, it's kind of like Sugar Suga changed up after his loss, right?
EPG
Yeah, yeah, he did. Suga has like a, a more like quiet confidence now where, like, in this whole lead up to the fight, Sugar was like, sugar's just himself.
Santa Cruz
No, but there was a point where he said he got lost in the sauce a little bit. Yeah. Which makes sense.
EPG
He's not like, I'm going to KO this guy second round. Like, I, you know, saw it and he's just like, I think I'm gonna, I want to get a classic Suga ko. And he did.
Jesse
Dude, Suga looked sharp.
EPG
So good.
Jesse
He looked dialed, bro.
EPG
It was a hobby's really hard to finish, bro. That's why I didn't even mind, like, the bed of that fight, going to decision. But I did. I put money on Sugar, second round ko, because it's like Zahabi's gonna get frustrated, and he did. And once he opens up, Sugar's just a sniper, bro. And the way he KO'd him and then walked off was just g. I
Santa Cruz
think Suga and Toporia would still be a good fight, and it'd be very, very.
Jesse
That's miles away from happening now, though.
Santa Cruz
Miles away. But, like, there was a time when it was about to happen. Yeah, that'd be. That would have been.
Jesse
Poria is not moving around anytime soon now, bro.
EPG
Yeah, he's pretty cooked right now.
Kyle
I mean, you know, that's Sanhagen. Sanhagen and o', Malley, which is. It's just for the. It would just be a great fight.
EPG
Yeah. I think they'll make Pyotr yawn and Sean o' Malley next. Sean's such a big draw. He gets to call his shots a little bit. That's the business of the ufc, as it. As it should be, honestly. And it makes sense. So I think they're gonna make that fight. I don't know what Pereira does next. Like, does he do another heavyweight fight? Does he drop back down to 205? That one surprised me. I thought Pero would win.
Jesse
I said, that guy's a Teddy. Might be the guy, bro, to call fights
Chetty
garbage. Pereira's lost me over six mystic cheddar.
Jesse
Let's hear that. Let's hear the McGregor prediction.
Chetty
Dude, you know, I don't know, boys.
Jesse
I'm day before. That's what I'm saying.
Chetty
I need you guys helping me find
EPG
who the best goes on, like, a vision quest. He does a bunch of drugs and like I do. Comes them in a video.
Chetty
No, I don't. I'm not Aaron Rodgers, buddy.
Kyle
All right?
Chetty
I just have a couple beers, smoke some kush, and I like. I see the board clear sometimes, right?
Kyle
I think McGregor loses by decision. That's what I think.
Chetty
Is McGregor washed now, boys, or what's going on?
Santa Cruz
I know he's washed, but he's coming back. McGregor's good.
Chetty
Who's the goaded on the feet striker? Those are the guys I'm rooting for forever.
Santa Cruz
Now.
Chetty
That's fun to watch like that gaethje fight.
Jesse
McGregor are goaded strikers.
Chetty
Yeah, those are the two, huh?
EPG
Sean O', Malley, if it's gonna be on the feet, if the fight's on the feet, I'm not picking against Sean o' Malley ever. If there's a really, really good grappler, it's a little bit tough. Sean o' Malley's grappling is great, but like, you know, you saw in some of those.
Chetty
I hated that fight. That, like.
EPG
Yeah, it's just hard to win. It's hard to beat that guy with his gas tank. And he's gonna win rounds and put you in kind of that hole. You're down like three rounds to zero. Four rounds. Zero. It's tough.
Jesse
Did this fight just take over everything too? I didn't hear about the Stanley cup, bro.
Chetty
I didn't hear. Dude, I didn't hear a thing.
Jesse
I haven't seen one clip of the Stanley cup on social media on my feet. Besides this one. Besides this one girl that I follow from barstool, that's at Carolina.
Chetty
I saw one clip, two of them holding the trophy. Usually there's a zillion. It was the Knicks in this UFC fight. Just dunked on that like it was.
EPG
Yeah, the Nick was dope, buddy.
Jesse
No chance. We saw that.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, I don't think many. I think maybe you and a couple others saw that.
Chetty
You and Ty Gretzky, the Hurricane coach,
EPG
bro, that dude could be getting a grass fed steak next to me. I wouldn't know who he was.
Chetty
All right, boys. So we saw everything with the. The spurs fans walking into the Knicks crowds and stuff with WBJ's, and everyone just gets the beat out of them. If you got three, three guys to call it, you can pick to be on your side walking through the crowds and Wemby backwards. Js. Who are you picking?
EPG
I just need one, bro. My. One of my actual security guys is Todd Duffy. If you look up, Todd Duffy had one fastest heavyweight knockouts. Yeah, he's. He's a super soldier. Yeah. Todd's taken out 15 of these guys easy.
Chetty
They need to be big heavyweights.
Jesse
Like you're saying one guy to roll with to like protect you and one guy.
Chetty
One guy. One guy to Rol.
Jesse
Dude, those Knicks fans are savage. I feel like no one's gonna really protect. I'd feel like I'd bring like the Dalai Lama or something and take my chances with that.
EPG
Try to go maybe all the dice.
Jesse
Yeah, just like peace through strength type.
EPG
Hey, man, they would up the Dalai Lama if he's wearing a Wemby jersey. That's the problem. He said you're wearing Wemby jerseys.
Jesse
I'm going Dalai Lama, taking my chances.
Santa Cruz
How lame you have to be to like wear a Spurs jersey. And stream yourself in New York to try and like risk your life to get clips. Yeah, that's like, dude, what the.
Jesse
I did that back in the day for videos, so I can't say, but.
Santa Cruz
Well, I don't know at this level. New York.
Jesse
Yeah, but I wouldn't go to Nick. I beefed Warriors Bronx, bro.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, you're good in San Francisco, bro.
Jesse
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I was kind of scared. It's kind of scary actually.
Chetty
You'll get hit with like a little fentanyl used needle or something. Just jabbed quick.
EPG
Yeah, you'd have to bring in a bunch of super soldiers. I brought this, this guy to security for us. I brought him to the Matan thing. If you look up baton, Santa Cruz security guard, you'll see him and he's like 6 to 315 pounds, all muscle. The dude like that, they can wear a Wendy jersey.
Santa Cruz
Yeah. This is going to sound kind of weird, but like, you know who I think is one of the most powerful people in New York is honestly the Rizzler.
EPG
For real.
Santa Cruz
He's like the most loved guy ever. Agreed.
Chetty
Yeah.
Santa Cruz
Can that guy walk into any restaurant and get it? Like for Charles prime rib, if he walks in there and asks for a table, he's probably going to get it. Oh, like that's different motion. Serious, bro.
EPG
No idea. Crazy motion. It's also like a kid you don't want to be mean to.
Jesse
How old is Rizzler now?
EPG
He's like nine.
Chetty
Seven.
Jesse
He's only nine.
Kyle
Yeah, 22.
Santa Cruz
He's like the king of New York.
Chetty
No way. Jesse thought the wrestler was 22.
Santa Cruz
You're thinking Hasbulla, bro.
Kyle
Why are you thinking of husbula's like 82, dude. He's.
Santa Cruz
Where is that little. What happened?
Chetty
I've been trying to run a straight.
Santa Cruz
Hopefully someone beat his ass. Finally I thought about it, bro. I was like, yo, should I just shove this little. For the like one time, dude, Hasbullah
Jesse
made like Hasbulla made like a mill and just said, peace out, bro.
Chetty
Yeah, Benny Shiny 50,
EPG
bro. People got all mad that I said this kid. I, I said, this kid is pre diabetic. He doesn't have significant health issues. People got mad like, oh, you guys think it's cute. Like, like you think it's cute now? Like, this is diabetes. You know, his HBA1C is probably extremely high. Oh, so cute. Like, do you want this kid to live a healthy, fulfilled life? Like, you know he needs to lock
Santa Cruz
in, dude, you don't The Rizzler can do what the he wants, bro.
Chetty
No, he'll lock in, bro.
EPG
Dude, it's cute now, but it's not.
Kyle
Oh cool.
EPG
He's 20 and has severe diabetes.
Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, watch your six. You have a hit on you when this comes out, my boy.
EPG
No, I know. I. I actually did that. I did.
Santa Cruz
When you step foot, send him a DM and you let me know you're there, bro.
EPG
My comment section was a lot of threats when I made that video, but I'm just stating the facts.
Kyle
These are. Yo, give him, give him 10 years, he's going to go through like a breakup and then he's going to lock in.
EPG
Yeah, no, he can lock in. He's got time.
Kyle
You can be basically the Rizzler. When I was his age, I was a unit.
Chetty
I was a unit kid called pizza box at recess.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, I was not that kid.
Kyle
But he got four snack has time.
Jesse
Let him eat some every day.
EPG
No, I'm coming from a positive place. He needs to lock in. Not this, not today, not tomorrow, but
Chetty
when he's 12 to 13, you lock it.
Santa Cruz
He's low key. Like the one guy I don't want Internet beef with ever. Like fuck, I'm steering clear of that.
Kyle
But like put him on a treadmill for a bit. Dunk them in like a cold plunge. Like get him going a bit.
Santa Cruz
Nah, he can do that in a few years. Let him be for now.
Chetty
13, 14, Rizzler locks in and he gets on ratatruetide. Beautiful. Chill.
Santa Cruz
Imagine the Rizzler just like wore a suit every day. Like, like a little Tony Soprano. I don't know.
Kyle
Yo, that's a good prediction.
EPG
Bet.
Kyle
When does the Rizzler lock in?
Jesse
Yeah, did you see the clip? I think. I don't know if he who he was on, but a lot. He was saying like a lot of kids from school hit him up now that he's like famous and. Yeah, I did with him maybe or someone.
Kyle
I don't know. He said it on somewhere.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, he said that he's got the
Chetty
follow back from Rizzler.
Santa Cruz
I've talked to Papa Riz a few times same year.
EPG
I'm not gonna get that follow now, but it's okay.
Chetty
I'm in everyone's DMS, dude firing at McCray and
Kyle
what's going on? David Barr, Are they with you?
EPG
David Barr? Yeah, they sent me a cease and desist. They didn't like some things I said and I'm trusting my legal team. Although I don't, you know, that Stuff's frustrating. You all know how that is. I can just say I think they're goofy. That's all I'll say.
Kyle
I used to eat them at Equinox. They were there. Yeah.
Jesse
For defamation.
EPG
Yeah. Cease and desist for. They didn't like a few things that I said about their bars. But EPG is great, guys. Google EPG and be like, yeah, that's something I want to eat. That's great. It's totally healthy.
Chetty
Wait, whatever. The food you're talking about.
EPG
PG David bars.
Chetty
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Kyle
Why aren't you allowed to have an opinion and. And say, like, yo, I don't recommend this food. This. These are the ingredients. Why is that like a. You could get sued.
EPG
It's like, I mean, I. I am. I am allowed to have an opinion. What pharma tech. What it is, is a nuance argument around. I called them Epstein affiliated because Dr. Peter Attia used to be involved with their company. And then Dr. Peter Atia allegedly had emails with Epstein. And so I made that jump. And that's probably the great line wrong of me.
Kyle
That comes like defamation.
EPG
Oh, yeah, that was. It was very wrong of me. So I, you know, I take that back. And everybody should eat epg. Just Google it. Eat it. David Barr's great.
Chetty
What about IQ Bars? Because I just picked up a couple of those Jimmies.
EPG
I've seen those. I've seen those pop up. I don't even know what's in those. Honestly,
Chetty
my health knowledge on here. Every pot I come on, I get like three to four cues off the
Jesse
gay clip of Santa Cruz.
Chetty
Yeah. Jesse goes, what do you think? Santa Cruz.
EPG
Yeah, that one went off.
Santa Cruz
It is kind of funny, though. Like, people like, not. This isn't shade. But you learned all this from somebody else. He's just repeating what other people say too. That could be like a negative.
EPG
That's kind of like perspective, for sure.
Santa Cruz
That's everything, I guess, but that's.
EPG
That's everything. I mean, what I do is I'm not, like, I'm not a scientist. I feel like what I do is I show people how I live and what I've learned about health, and then, like, I make it digestible for people. Like, I might know more than average person in terms of science and biochemistry, but I'm not like a, you know, genius with it, But I give people stuff to actually, like, do in their lives where they can be like, all right, I'm gonna start doing this and feeling better, which some of the scientists don't do a good Job at here.
Kyle
I got a. I got a hot take for you. I think a couple light beers is technically healthy because you. Because stress and feeling happy and lightening your mood is really good for your health.
Chetty
I feel that, But I can't have a couple. I feel that, but I can't have a couple.
Santa Cruz
I can't either.
Kyle
But if you can find the sauce, find that middle ground where you can have a couple.
EPG
But there's. There's studies on alcohol that it increases baseline anxiety over time, even small amounts of drinking. It decreases your brain volume and actual gray matter in your brain. It messes with your sleep.
Chetty
But, like, people.
EPG
People are always astonished that I. That I. With you guys. And, like, I. Whatever. I'm, like, filming with Big John. They're like, wait, but you don't drink. It's like, this is where I have this, like, debate always in my comment, where I'm like, I. I used to drink when I was young. I've talked about many times. And so it's like, I'm not here to judge others. I'm here to just. I want people to feel good and be healthy. So if Chetty comes to me and he's like, dude, I've been feeling horrible. I'm gonna be like, hey, bro, don't drink for a while. If you go to me and you're like, dude, I had a few beers at a UFC event. I feel fine. I'll be like, dude, take some N acetylcysteine, hydrate up. It's not like I'm not trying to make people live how I live. I show how I live and try to get people just to, like, live as healthy as they can.
Kyle
Go both ways, right? Like, it could be like, well, imagine someone doesn't like you because they drink. It's like, exactly. It's like, it's silly.
EPG
Like, yeah, live and let live, you know?
Chetty
Jesse, get on the glutathione when you're stewing. I. I actually think. I actually think it's the only thing that helps.
EPG
Teddy's injecting glutathione right as that first beer.
Kyle
Is that like a diamond?
Chetty
Putting BC into my mitt by myself. Like, don't care because I need my hand to heal. I just. I don't even.
EPG
Dude, BPC works, bro.
Chetty
Mind me overloading it.
EPG
I am eight weeks ahead of normal MRIs on my knee, and guaranteed I'm spending a lot of money on my knee. But this, like, documentary that I do is going to be insane because I'm doing no Surgery, rehab for the acl, it's already regrowing. People think in. In general medicine that ACLs can't regrow on their own. They can. There's plenty of evidence of it. It's crazy, bro. I'm stoked to release everything.
Santa Cruz
I'm officially locking in, like, I have to now. I'm gonna do something soon, I'll tell you, this summer. But I'm doing something. And, yeah, gotta make a couple lifestyle changes.
Kyle
So, yeah, let's all lock in.
EPG
Kyle's more locked in than me. I mean, right now, like, you're.
Santa Cruz
You're.
Jesse
This weekend, bro.
EPG
This weekend, sure. But I mean, just kind of like,
Santa Cruz
dude, like, I don't. Like what? There's nothing cool about being the drunk guy at the bar, dude.
Chetty
I don't enjoy. I don't enjoy going out. After this weekend, I went back to my college bar for the first time in like four years. I need to wear medic glasses when I go out. The kids that come up to me, bro, I'm like, you guys are the dumbest. Hey, you want a nose nacho? Chatty, you want a nacho? Come with me. I'm telling you.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, the meta glasses are going to show you hitting the key. It's like going to look down at a key, bro.
Kyle
They go.
EPG
They go offer to him.
Chetty
The next clip is like, God, these kids are dweebs now.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, you guys are fucking dweebs. But I'll take a nacho.
EPG
There's a huge difference in people who go out, have a few drinks and have a good time versus people who go out. And it's like 10 out of 10 every time they go out that.
Jesse
I'm telling you, bro, the best way to do it is to set a goal and a deadline. And we should come back next week and you should have a goal and a deadline.
Kyle
Yeah.
EPG
Yeah.
Jesse
If you guys all want to do that, I would do that with you guys.
Santa Cruz
I already have it. We could do it next week, but I have it.
Jesse
But you gotta say it and you gotta put it out loud.
Santa Cruz
I'm also gonna take. I already have my peptide stack, so I'll show everything. I don't give a, buddy.
Chetty
Get them through me. Chetty's taking over with this. Get them through my company. I'll ship them for free.
Santa Cruz
I already got a company.
Chetty
No, Chinese tech, bud.
Kyle
Yeah, I just posted it last. Last week. I'm trying to get to 1140 in 11 weeks. So I'm. That's my goal.
Chetty
All right, goals by next pod. Let's go. I gotta actually lock it up.
Jesse
I'm already 10, I'm already trying to get to 10 body fat by July 12th.
EPG
I think you'll, I think you'll get that. You've been looking pretty.
Santa Cruz
This is gonna sound stupid as fuck too but it's like you guys saw the clip of Mike Maylek doing like the pineapple thing and it's like bit that bit tough and then it shows his age of 41 and I was just like dude, like I don't want to be that guy.
Chetty
Imagine being 41 and beefing with 23 year old Chetty on a prize pick bus.
Santa Cruz
No, but I'm like I don't need to go to, I don't want to go to a bar, get wasted and pick a up a chick. Like I want to go see Obsession or a movie with a chick and like do something different.
EPG
I saw Obsession with my girl last night.
Chetty
So did I.
EPG
That's, that's hilarious bro. I haven't been to the movies in forever and my girl's like I kind of want to see this movie.
Santa Cruz
When was last me went on a wholesome date and did some that like
Chetty
that's what I'm on these days.
EPG
I, I do that all the time.
Jesse
I took a bird on a heli ride of Toronto and took her to dinner after. Did a private drive.
EPG
No more helicopter rides for you Kyle. We're putting that. I know we can't, we can't have you go missing.
Chetty
That's about obsession though. I. That had me a little bit tweaked out and I'm alone in this big ass house right now and I don't like it.
Santa Cruz
I want to do like a whole series on that. Like testing a chick like not doing like the. Kyle, like let me give you this helicopter tour to the private driver. Like take her on like a cheap ass date.
Jesse
I got that tech from you.
Santa Cruz
I know. Well of course you're going to learn from me. Obviously you're going to learn from me when it comes to that.
Jesse
I had to do it like you
Santa Cruz
one time and it probably went. Probably was. Probably was successful. Let me, let me guess.
Jesse
Was it successful?
Santa Cruz
That's 100 success.
Jesse
I skipped the buying or the timepiece.
EPG
But steiny then you're gonna be sitting in a Taco Bell with a chicken. You're gonna be like I don't want to be doing this. I don't, I don't want to eat this.
Santa Cruz
No. I found this company that does. You get, you get the catering and they do a beach setup, so they put the table on there for you. They bring a server, and you can cater whatever food. So I'm gonna do that.
Kyle
Yeah.
EPG
That's bougie.
Jesse
As.
EPG
I thought you were saying you're gonna give a chick, like, a alternative experience that you were broke.
Chetty
No.
Jesse
Okay, so let's hear it. Here's another take. What's the best first date to take a chick on, Chetty?
Chetty
Well, dude, my thing lately has been, like, I had to tell the lady. I'm like, dude, we gotta, like, you don't need two hours to get ready before every dinner. We go on, like, let's just go hit Chipotle. Let's go sit outside at Chipper.
Jesse
Bring the duck.
Chetty
I go in there and order for her. She keeps the dog out front. I get her a little vegetarian bowl, extra queso.
Santa Cruz
She's stoked.
Chetty
I'm stoked. We're home in 20 minutes. I get quicker. Please talk.
Jesse
That clip right now.
Chetty
That is the.
EPG
That's the most Chetty clip of all time.
Chetty
I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get reamed.
Kyle
Worst case, you walk away with some gains.
Chetty
Like, yeah, I get dump chicken. She gets a.
Kyle
If you want to know the best state. Go.
Jesse
Jesse's. Jesse's a sauce date guy. Jesse, what's the best?
Santa Cruz
Jess, you're an intimate intimacy on the first date.
Kyle
A comedy show. And then if the comedy show, like, goes well, then you go for a walk. And if the walk goes well, you grab, like, a bite.
Jesse
Is comedy show good, though? What if she's laughing a little too much at the guy's jokes? And it.
Kyle
That's fine.
EPG
That's good.
Jesse
It's fine.
Kyle
Are you.
Chetty
Are you having stews at the comedy show couple?
Kyle
Oh, Honda.
Jesse
Yeah.
Kyle
Yeah. I mean, now, Yeah. I didn't for five years, but, yeah.
EPG
I feel like for a first date in today's society, I don't know. I've been out of the game for a while. You got to keep it real light. It's like coffee and a walk type. Like, you gotta suss out these. These. These hoes out there.
Kyle
I only had comedy show or something so that you both experience. You don't have to, like, entertain each other right off the bat and be like, what do you do for a living? You gotta, like, go do something fun, then go do that.
EPG
How many shows are crack, bro? Just to feel, like, happy. I go to a lot of comedy because you're just there laughing.
Santa Cruz
Except for what if you're the guy? What if you're the guy in the audience that just. He just. The comedian just starts roasting. Yeah, you are risking that.
Kyle
Dude, I went to an. I went to. It was called Chocolate Sundae, and it was, like, all black. Like, black audience, black everything. And me and a first date are at the front row, and they just roast the. Out of us. Like, call me Vanilla bear and shit. They're like, like, oh, are you guys. Like, are you guys married? Or whatever? And we have to awkwardly be like, no, we just. We don't know each other and we do. Yeah, but it made it fun. It was good.
EPG
Yeah, but you got to do your research, pal.
Kyle
I know. I don't know how I didn't realize chocolate sundae meant 150.
EPG
San Francisco's stupid expensive.
Kyle
Kind of like, what. Santa Cruz, you were saying, like, if you don't have a lot of money, like, dude, you can go buy two coffees and go for a walk and get to know someone. Like, if you really want.
EPG
25 in here. But, yeah, right.
Santa Cruz
Hand some cardio, dude.
Kyle
You could make coffees or, like, be. If you're broke, you got to be creative. You gotta, like.
EPG
I got a lot of friends that do the surfing dates. You know, I gotta. I got a buddy, Austin, he might be taking out surfing in a week. You know what I mean? He's basically a surf instructor.
Chetty
Well, that's sick.
Jesse
Anytime a girl's just naturally into what you like to do.
Kyle
Yeah.
EPG
You know, but you don't want to. You want a chick that does some of the stuff you do, but you don't want to date yourself. I know some dudes that, like. They're like, my chick does jiu jitsu. She surfs, she does mountain biking. And then, I don't know about you.
Santa Cruz
I don't know jitsu that. Hey, hell, I protect this house. Not.
EPG
That's not happening.
Kyle
Yeah, yeah.
EPG
No, but I know these dudes.
Santa Cruz
Someone breaks in, I'm handling that. My chick's not gonna take him to the ground. Dude.
Kyle
I went on a date with a skateboarder once, and it was like. I thought I'd be like, oh, this is cool. It's like, bro, I'm hanging out with, like, one of the boys right now.
Jesse
That's what I've. I always wonder that. Yeah, how fine. How fine do you want the line of your girl being into what you're into? Like, do you want to go to the gym with your girl every day? Santa Cruz?
Chetty
Do you do that or.
Jesse
No?
EPG
No, I go. I go once a week, Me and My girl go to the gym on Wednesdays. I help put her through a little leg workout. She's really into health, but it's different shit. So, like, right now she's at Pilates. You know what I mean?
Santa Cruz
Do you ever. You guys have each other's locations?
EPG
I do, yeah.
Santa Cruz
That's kind of beta, but.
EPG
No, dude, no. I'm married.
Chetty
There's no way I could get away with that. I'm.
Jesse
So if you're in a relationship, do you share the location with your girl, or are you not sharing the location?
Santa Cruz
Absolutely not. That is an immediate no. You're immediately becoming less of a Alpha in the relationship and giving her too much power. Like, she's got to trust your word. And if she doesn't, she's never going to trust you. Because I'll tell you what the other problem is.
EPG
Every.
Santa Cruz
It's just gonna add stress to your life because every move you make is going to be watched like a hawk.
Chetty
I've never not. I might be getting baited tech, but I'm like, what do I got the. What do I got to hide?
Santa Cruz
You've never not shared your location?
Chetty
Yeah, what do I got to hide?
Jesse
JB's got my location, guys that chipper 62 of the time.
Chetty
Well, yeah, I share my location with everyone. I'm playing League of Legends at Chipotle or the bar.
Jesse
Dude, come on now. I don't know if I've shared my
Kyle
location with anyone ever. I think I just don't like anyone knowing, like, where I'm at. I like freedom, bro.
Santa Cruz
I. Yeah, I.
EPG
At this point in my life, I have nothing to hide. And I'm. I'm also married. Stan, you're saying if you get married, you're not gonna. No, I shared our locations. It was definitely years into the relationship, but now, dude, it's like a safety thing for me. Like, what if my girl goes missing? I want to assemble, like, a happy
Santa Cruz
station is acceptable, but that is not a two way street, I don't think.
Kyle
Yeah, but there's a part of me, Santa Cruz, that wishes you had, like, I wish you had an alter life. Like, you were disappearing and being at Crumble Cookie every day.
EPG
If I had an alternate life.
Chetty
Dude, people legit.
Kyle
Yeah.
EPG
When they're taking, like, a photo with me, though, my girl's been asked, like, does he really live like this? Does he eat Taco Bell? And she's like, no. Like, what the. Like, like. But some people, like, wonder that. But no, I literally have nothing. I'm like, I think it's only when it's my girl can.
Jesse
It's one. It's serious.
EPG
Like, I'm not. I'm not hitting up. Yeah, you know, hoes. Steiny. I don't know. It sounds like if you're. If you don't want your location shared, then you're probably at locations that you don't want your girl to see.
Santa Cruz
No, that's not even true. I don't want to be questioned. Like you said. Why are you buy this spa like, yo, I'm at Trader Joe's like that. Like, yo, I'm just saying, like, they're going to like, question everything you do if you're around. Why are you at this person's house watching the game?
Kyle
What about red receipts? Do you guys have that on? Hell or they can see if you. That I don't.
EPG
I get way too many text messages. You all fucking probably do. Like, it's like, yeah, but you know what? You know what actually, you know, you know who actually presses me more about my location is my fucking friends. So I have a bunch of friends at my location, and they'll be like, oh, you just got to the house, like, you're telling me you can't make it to the gym in 10 minutes and like, I have to explain more to my fucking friends what's going on than my girlfriend for sure.
Santa Cruz
Yeah. See, the whole location thing, that's just.
Kyle
That's why I don't like it. It's like, I don't want to be questions. Like, bro, I'm no, I want to be questioned.
Santa Cruz
I'm where I'm the at. And where I tell you I'm at, that's where I'm at.
Kyle
Did any of you guys know or meet Oliver Tree?
Santa Cruz
Oh, that's terrible.
EPG
No, but I slapped his music forever, and it's actually frustrating. I posted some rip shits, you know, like his music and people like, you know, new gens are like, you, you now you're posting it today. Luckily, I have people in my comments being like, bro, he's used his music for eight years in his videos.
Santa Cruz
You know, I did not know how big, how popular his music was. I went and looked at his Spotify. It's like he's like five tracks with
Chetty
over 100 million was so good. Just so hitter. Just.
EPG
Yeah.
Kyle
Even outside of music, he was just like a creative. Like, he didn't scratch the surface what he was gonna do. He didn't have to just sit at home and like, live with his money. And like, he always traveled. Always. Dude, One thing I noticed when I open my phone is the amount of people that posted different things with him that I'm like, damn, this guy. Like, it was almost inspiring to be like, I need to do more things or, like, meet more people or say yes to more. He said yes to everything. Like, he's like a true, like, rambling man. Like, backpack, say yes. Go work with whoever.
EPG
Like, bro, you can make people's day filming a video with them, which is a crazy position that we're all in. And just like, I think it's good like at least once a week to do that. Like, whatever it is, bro, there's some kids that took a photo of me and they're doing a little food review at this place, man. I'm like, oh, let me get in your food review. I'll like, do. You know, they were so stoked. It's like, whatever. Like, that is always a good way to give back. Kind of goes back to what you were saying, Kyle, and that TMZ thing. You're like, bro, I'd rather just do for people in like, the private sector. Like, you can and you do. And that does kind of provide more real value in a way of like, oh, if I can like, help somebody here, like, whatever it is, it's kind of more tangible than like, oh, I made a political change and it got reversed four years later. All right?
Kyle
You make a bigger difference doing what we're doing, you know, or like what you guys do. Like, literally just building an audience and like having a message and doing our. Creating things that will change people's opinions about the way they live is, like, probably more impactful than like being voted into this thing that has a system that's gonna tell you what you're gonna
EPG
do, you know, Elon Musk is going to create more change in the world than many politicians put together have, you know, he's going to give Internet to the entire world. High speed Internet. That's going to be a thing that's
Santa Cruz
a trillionaire now, right?
EPG
That's insane.
Santa Cruz
What the. Dude, that's so.
EPG
I mean, he isn't. He isn't.
Santa Cruz
You know, that's one day. You got one day. You gotta just see how much you can spend in a day at that point. Like, see if you see if you can spend.
EPG
But he'd have to sell a bunch of stock. You'd have to sell a bunch of stocks and that, like, decreases the stock price.
Jesse
I invested in SpaceX. That shit's up.
EPG
Yeah, yeah, that seems like a good one.
Kyle
Like insider There someone like Elon Musk doesn't even think like that. Like, I think he's literally thinking of it as, like, tokens. I have. I have more tokens to go, actually. Make, like, imagine you could wake up every day and. And be like, my project's like, I'm gonna fix this issue. Like, yeah.
Santa Cruz
No, he's very passionate about his.
Kyle
And I understand the hate. I think it's anyone who's just like, we're in a. We're in a weird state right now.
Santa Cruz
We're probably the most person of all time.
EPG
Yeah. I mean, people are just pissed because of, like. I mean, you have this coveted generation now. A lot of these kids that live through Covid, you know, are now, like, turning, like, 18, 19, 20 years old. And it's tough out there, dude. Like, they're like, all right, how am I gonna afford a house? How am I gonna make money? The AI. It's brutal. Again, I get where all that's coming from, all the criticism and. But, like, it should come from a place of all right United States dope. It's a good place. A little up. Let me try to figure out how to make it not, like, let me try to burn this down.
Kyle
Like, yeah, let me sit around all day and complain on the Internet isn't gonna fix your. Like, dude, we've always had problems. We've always. It's always gone up and down. Like, you got to get creative and, like, find a way to make money and hustle, like, everyone does.
EPG
I've been there, bro. When I was 18, I was, like, super into conspiracies, and I was like, the world is. I moved to Costa Rica and, like, was trying to, like. Like, I don't even know what the. I was doing, bro. I believed that, like, peak oil was gonna hit and everything was a conspiracy. And then at some point, I just clutched up, and I was like, all right, this life is kind of a game. There's a lot of up out there. Let me try to do something good, make some money and live a good life. And it worked. And people should do that. Like, yeah, it's a game.
Kyle
Yeah.
Santa Cruz
Everything's always gonna be negative until you make a change. Once you make a change and you just put that behind you, then you can actually do something. Yeah.
Kyle
I feel more bad for the guy where, like, the mid-20s guy that's. Or girl that's working multiple jobs, taking care of their family, just trying to get out of the. And they're just grinding, and it's like, maybe some systems and that are in place are just them. Like, whether it was like, Covid lost your job or lost your business or like, it's like there's things that are actually like, yeah, this is up. Like, anyone working hard should have a break. But like, I have no sympathy for anyone who's broke. But like, not just complaining.
Santa Cruz
It's like I have no sympathy for these chicks. And I don't know if it's just la, but like, you never hear about the quality in the workplace, like anymore. Because none of them are in the workplace. It seems like around me or here. Getting kind of tired of that.
Chetty
I'm rocking Hollywood.
Jesse
You haven't heard about the. Haven't heard about workplace conditions anymore much?
Santa Cruz
No, dude, because these chicks are worried about the UV. Oh, it's a UV9. It's a great day. Like, what the dude gotta pay rent? Most of these chicks, I guarantee, don't know how to pay bills, bro.
Jesse
Yo, that is true. The chicks that are complaining about the UV index, that's all they care about.
Santa Cruz
What's the UV today? It's a UV10. And my music, that's all I need. Get a job. Those chicks just shake ass.
EPG
I'm sorry.
Santa Cruz
That's true, bro.
Jesse
It's like, if it's sunny out, just get a tan. You don't have to look at the UV index.
Kyle
I might have to hop off soon, boys. I gotta call.
Jesse
Yeah, I gotta bounce too.
Kyle
I pushed a bit, but.
Jesse
All right, fellas. All right, boys.
Chetty
Good.
Santa Cruz
Maybe for next week we should have some sort of goal set so people can like buy into it.
Jesse
Well, mine's 10 by July 12th.
Santa Cruz
Well, we should. Let's all have.
Jesse
You guys want to extend it if you guys want to choose a date.
Santa Cruz
Yeah, we got it. Definitely for us.
Jesse
Like, you're saying a workout related thing, right?
Santa Cruz
Yeah, like, but mine would have to be probably in August or September.
Jesse
I'm down to keep.
Chetty
I think I'm going running mode, boys. Less weights.
EPG
I think that's.
Santa Cruz
This is. I'll tell you this. This is the most locked in I've ever.
Jesse
I'm down to keep it going too, because I. I love having this. A goal. The second I lose a goal, I'm.
Chetty
Yeah, I need one.
Jesse
And the second I lose my deadline, I'm screwed.
Kyle
Make it a competition. So we make it hard for everyone.
Santa Cruz
I'm down and full, full transparency on any. Full transparency on any substances that are used that has to be there. Yeah, on peptides, steroids, peptides. Like, we have to. Because that is a huge factor. I know some people like that.
Jesse
I don't think anyone. I don't think anyone's on roids.
Santa Cruz
No.
EPG
All right.
Kyle
I'm on magic. Mine.
Jesse
Yeah.
Santa Cruz
I'll probably be on testosterone.
Kyle
All right.
Santa Cruz
See you guys.
Jesse
All right.
Kyle
The Dan Bonino Show.
Chetty
It's our movement, okay? It's ours. We built it.
Jesse
Hard truths.
Chetty
There are a bunch of people out there pulling you into an information vortex, dumping the dead pig in the well, hoping you jump in. Don't jump in the well. It's a trap. Find a way out immediately. This is the nothing is happening trap. And it is an inverted sense of reality. If we don't correct it and your kids believe it, I'm sorry. This show's for nothing.
Kyle
The Dan Bongino Show.
Chetty
There's only one choice, man.
Jesse
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Date: June 18, 2026
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