Nelk Boys Reveal All UFC White House Card Secrets!

Summary

FULL SEND PODCAST: Nelk Boys Reveal All UFC White House Card Secrets!

Date: June 18, 2026
Host: SHOTS Media
Brought to you by: Happy Dad Hard Seltzer

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Episode Overview

This lively Full Send Podcast episode brings together the Nelk Boys and friends to unpack the historic UFC fight card at the White House. The crew breaks down the Gaethje vs. Topuria fight, discusses behind-the-scenes moments, reflects on the spectacle’s cultural significance, and debates the impact of the event on the sport and country. Alongside fight analysis, they riff on everything from wild fan antics and viral conspiracy theories to health advice, dating strategies, and the current American psyche.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. UFC White House Card – Fight Reactions and Bets

• The crew relives their bets, predictions, and emotional rollercoaster while watching Gaethje and Sugar Sean compete at the White House (02:19 – 04:48).
  • Memorable Quotes:
    • “That was a master class of striking. Like, I don't watch UFC, but that was sick to see. That got me. I'm watching every card now.” – Chetty (03:40)
    • “It was one of the greatest sporting events of all time…that’ll never happen again. You'll never see that at the White House.” – EPG (03:48)
• Discussion of bet outcomes, with some parlaying Gaethje and Sugar for massive wins.

2. Unpredictability and Culture of Fights

• Contrast between UFC and other sports: fighting’s unpredictability and primal nature, compared to team sports (04:27 – 05:05).
  • “Fighting is…a primal activity...In fighting, somebody can use their will and strategy.” – EPG (04:27)
• Explanation of Topuria’s liver shots and Gaethje’s durability.

3. White House Event Atmosphere & Security

• Walking through the event’s unique, non-political vibe and the historic walkouts with veterans (12:11 – 13:10).
  • “Every walkout was perfect…from a different area of the White House, it was just perfect.” – Santa Cruz (12:15)
• Discussion of heavy security, including snipers on the roof (17:21).

4. Behind-the-Scenes Stories

• The infamous story of Saleem missing the White House fight after hooking up with a fan before the event (13:10 – 16:20).
  • “You wasted a White House ticket…He was just complaining. We're like, bro, just go then.” – Jesse (14:08)
  • Saleem’s absence is jokingly dubbed a "big L."

5. Press Conference Antics

• Saleem’s chaotic presence at the press conference, embarrassing the crew and allegedly angering Shahidi (17:44 – 18:06).
  • “You heard him screaming? Yeah, dude, he's just screaming nonsense, bro...Pretty embarrassing, I'm not gonna lie. Shahidi was furious.” – Jesse (17:45 – 17:59)

6. Politics, Public Opinion & America

• Spirited discussion on negative sentiment toward the US in younger generations and social media’s distorting effects (18:08 – 22:24).
  • “If you compare apples to apples with population, the United States is clearly the best place in the world to live and raise a family.” – EPG (18:51)
  • The crew contrasts US freedoms with the realities of life in other populous countries.
• Pushback against negative narratives and the “everything is fake/scripted” online mentality.

7. Fight Conspiracy Theories & Social Media Trends

• The group reacts to viral claims like "rocks in Gaethje’s gloves" and the rise of engagement farming on social media (23:14 – 24:50).
  • “If you think that was fake…you've never played a sport or sparred anybody.” – EPG (24:42)

8. Eric Trump/ DC Twitter Incident

• Break down the viral (but apparently fake) incident involving a DM from an Eric Trump impersonator asking DC for betting tips (25:19 – 27:05).
  • “Apparently an AI account was impersonating Eric Trump…this seems like hackers just creating controversy.” – Santa Cruz/EPG (25:24 – 25:54)

9. White House Celebrity Guests

• Observations about which celebrities attended, including Barron Trump launching a beverage company and encounters with Trump’s family (27:26 – 28:03).
  • “Not a lot of celebrities wanted to go to the White House fight, I guess. McGregor is going to be more star-studded...” – Jesse (28:03)

10. Next Fights and UFC Business

• Analysis of what’s next for top fighters: Gaethje, Topuria, Sugar Sean, and others (29:41 – 34:11).
  • “If McGregor beats Holloway, Gaethje calls out McGregor and they do one of the biggest fights of all time…” – EPG (29:41)
  • Contemplation of possible match-ups: Arman, Ilia vs. Paddy Pimblett, Sean O’Malley vs. Pyotr Yan.
• Comments on fighter pay and the backstage business of UFC.

11. On Health, “Locking In”, and Substances

• Health advice discussion veers from debate on alcohol’s health merits to injection of peptides and BPC supplements (46:03 – 49:02).
  • “I just want people to feel good and be healthy…If you go to me and you're like, dude, I had a few beers at a UFC event. I feel fine. I'll be like, dude, take some N Acetylcysteine, hydrate up. It’s not like I'm not trying to make people live how I live.” – EPG (47:24)
• Crew pledges to set health and fitness goals before the next pod: transparency about “any substances” included (65:15 – 65:47).

12. Dating, Relationships, and Life Advice

• Hilarious exchange on ideal first dates—from Chipotle to comedy shows and avoiding “tryhard” dating tactics (51:00 – 54:53).
  • “My thing lately…let's just go hit Chipotle. Let's go sit outside…We're home in 20 minutes…” – Chetty (52:35)
  • Broader reflections on building relationships, sharing locations with partners, and setting boundaries (56:13 – 59:10).

13. Society, Complaints, and the American Experiment

• Candid takes on generational malaise, financial struggle, and the importance of personal agency (62:28 – 63:36, 63:44 – 64:47).
  • “Let me sit around all day and complain on the Internet isn’t gonna fix your shit…You got to get creative and, like, find a way to make money and hustle, like, everyone does.” – Kyle (62:58)
  • “Everything’s always gonna be negative until you make a change…” – Santa Cruz (63:36)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Gaethje’s Performance:
  • "I actually don't get what Gaethje's fists are made of, bro...Even Khabib said that the hardest he's been hit was from Gaethje." – Kyle (31:08 – 31:18)
• On the Uniqueness of the White House Fight:
  • "That'll never happen again. You'll never see that at the White House. It's something that's never going to be recreated." – EPG (03:48)
• On the Conspiracy Craze:
  • "The amount of videos I saw that this was scripted...they let Gaethje do steroids. That's not even how steroids work." – EPG (23:14 – 23:43)
• On the US and Gratitude:
  • "United States is the best experiment on Earth, and it’s the best place to live. Now let’s try to make it even better.” – EPG (19:59)
• On Missed Opportunities:
  • “You wasted a White House ticket...He was just complaining. We're like, bro, just go then.” – Jesse (14:08)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• UFC White House Card, Fight Breakdown & Bets: 02:19 – 07:58
• Gaethje vs. Topuria Techniques & Fight IQ: 04:27 – 06:25
• Behind-the-Scenes Partying and Pre-Fight Stories: 06:48 – 09:45
• White House Political/Apolitical Vibes: 12:11 – 13:10
• Saleem Missing the Fight Story: 13:10 – 16:20
• Security & Press Conference Mayhem: 17:21 – 18:06
• Conspiracies & Public Reception: 18:08 – 24:50
• Eric Trump/ DC DMs Incident: 25:19 – 27:09
• Next Fights / UFC Business: 29:41 – 34:11
• On Dating, Health, and Living Well: 46:03 – 54:53
• Closing Thoughts on Life, Hustle & America: 62:28 – 64:47
• Fitness Goal Challenge Setup: 65:15 – 65:47

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Tone & Style

The episode is loose, comedic, and unfiltered. The crew’s banter is equal parts irreverent and insightful, combining deep fight analysis, lifestyle hot takes, and life philosophy with their classic bro energy.

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Summary for New Listeners

Whether you’re a hardcore fight fan or just curious about what went down at the first-ever UFC White House card, this episode delivers the inside scoop: wild stories, expert breakdowns, banter about betting, society, and fame, and candid life advice. The crew’s energy, irreverence, and camaraderie make it clear why Full Send is a cultural staple, especially when capturing a once-in-a-lifetime event like this.

Skip the intros and ads—start around 02:19 to dive into the real stories and insights.

Transcript

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[Jesse]

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[EPG]

Chetty won some fucking money this weekend. Called it.

[Jesse]

Did he?

[EPG]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

I mean, we.

[EPG]

I think everyone. Everyone here had Sugar by ko. I did not think Gaichi. I did not think Gaichi would pull it off. Honestly, I'm stoked he did, but I just didn't. Didn't see that happening.

[Jesse]

Crazy fights.

[EPG]

Insane.

[Jesse]

Everyone won, Chad.

[Chetty]

Everyone won big, Chad. What did you.

[Jesse]

What did you take, Chetty?

[Chetty]

Dude, I took everything. I spewed. I took Sugar, knockout, Gaichi, knockout, Gaichi to win. I parlayed Gaichi and Sugar.

[Jesse]

Wait, so did Gaichi. Did Gaichi knockout hit.

[Chetty]

Yeah, it counted, bro. Okay, If I spewed on, the pot is going up today. It's ridiculous. I spewed on the last spot. I'm like, it. Gaichi knockout.

[Kyle]

So they count that as a tko?

[Chetty]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Or I thought it was like a doctor stoppage.

[Chetty]

Or they counted it.

[EPG]

I think the betting sites have ko, slash, tko, draw, or submission.

[Chetty]

Yeah, like, that's like a little leeway on it.

[EPG]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jesse]

Did any of us see that happening last week or no. Did any of us?

[Santa Cruz]

No.

[EPG]

I saw Suga ko.

[Chetty]

I. I didn't see it, but I dispute it.

[Jesse]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Yeah. I mean, I don't want to claim I did, but I, like, I was definitely pushing the, like, narrative of it's a fight, bro.

[Chetty]

That was a master class of striking. Like, I don't watch ufc, but that was sick to see. That got me. I'm watching every card now. I love that, bro.

[EPG]

It was. It was one of the greatest sporting events of all time because, you know, you have super bowl, you have NBA Finals, but it'll never. That'll never happen again. You'll never see that at the White House. It's something that's never going to be recreated. And how it went down that night was insane. It was the greatest sporting event of all time, in my opinion.

[Jesse]

Yeah, it makes UFC literally the best to watch is because no matter how favored you are or how much of an underdog you are, like, look at these last two fights. Hamza got upset to Toria. I mean, you can just never, never predict who's gonna fucking win in the end, bro.

[EPG]

Fighting is. It's a different fucking thing. It's like a primal activity. Of course it's a sport, but it's different, bro. It's. When there's an NFL team that's plus 800, there's so many things that have to go wrong for, like, them to get the upset in fighting. It's not like that. Like, somebody can use their Will and strategy and like, dude, that, that uppercut, that gate she was hitting, where it kind of goes in on a single leg, but he grabs the back of your head and uppercuts you, bro. That was beautiful.

[Jesse]

And if you go back and watch some of the shots that Toporio was throwing at Gaethje, bro, the body shots,

[EPG]

bro, I know, dude, he's hitting like a. He was hitting him to the liver so hard, dude. I was watching it with a pro Muay Thai fighter and he was like, dude, it's done. Because like, he's like, when you get hit to the liver like that, like, it's a good eight min minutes, bro. Of like, you're done. And I was like, it's like he got five hard shots to deliver. I was like. And Gaichi just survived, bro. He survived.

[Jesse]

My bet was over on fight time. I knew that was a locker roomie.

[Chetty]

I hit that too.

[Jesse]

Yeah, that was an easy one.

[Kyle]

I like, what. Did you see what DC said?

[Santa Cruz]

What the Eric Trump DMS or not the.

[Kyle]

That's something else. But like, he was saying something. But like, it plays a big part of like, the whole surroundings, the event. Like, the fact that it was for America, like, all those things I think is like, what made him. It definitely like helped him. Like, maybe it was just like another fight. He like went down from the sliver shots, but I think something like gave him some extra. Like, I just gotta kill this guy. Like, he dug deep. Like, it was sick.

[Santa Cruz]

This is the first thing I thought about. I don't think it's possible to be a striker and go undefeated in the ufc.

[Jesse]

Like, I totally agree.

[Santa Cruz]

I don't think that's possible. I think that, that that's what I

[Chetty]

first and then marab happened and it was.

[Santa Cruz]

That's what I'm saying. Like, Suga was going that route to Poria and then it's like, it's too hard to be just a striker and go under. I don't think it's possible.

[Jesse]

I totally agree with you. I don't think you can go undefeated as a striker because something like this is going to happen. You know, that's why you saw back in the day, gsp, even he admits it. He says openly that, yo, I had to change my strategy because, like, after he got knocked out, I think by Matt Sarah the second time, he's like, yo, I went back and changed my whole strategy. And like, if you do want to go on a crazy long undefeated streak, I feel like you got to be a wrestler.

[Chetty]

How. How about Sugar Boys? Sugar was electric. 4G. How was that in person? Sugar was.

[Jesse]

Sugar was electric, bro. I mean, the whole thing was just. I was pretty hammered too, because we went out two nights before. So like, by the time Sunday came around, it was like, it was one of those days where you just got to wake up and like, kind of start drinking right away. So just like.

[Chetty]

Yeah.

[EPG]

You went to Ilya's celebration party?

[Jesse]

The night before I went, we went to Ilya's celebration.

[EPG]

He throws a celebration party before every fight because he's like, I won already.

[Kyle]

Well, what was his energy like? Was he like, cocky?

[Jesse]

We walked in, we. We knew all those guys from when we did the stream. So like, we, we said a couple of them. It was all. It felt like I was in Europe in there. Like, it was all just like, no one was really speaking English, everyone was speaking Spanish, like, classy white wine. And. And then, I mean, to be honest, I was a little nervous to see Toporia because I hadn't seen him since the stream. Yeah, you know, since, since the, the infamous clip. So I was, I was kind of a little nervous, but like, no, we were. Everything was cool and like his whole crew, super cool. But I mean, he wasn't drinking or anything, he was just chilling, so it's not like he was partying the night before the fight.

[Chetty]

There's no shot I'm ripping anything like that before the night of a fight, though.

[Jesse]

That's what I was thinking. Like when I was there, I was just like, dude, even the mental exhaustion of having to like, like, this wasn't no social battery. Yeah, I assumed for some reason it was going to be like one table of like, just a dinner, you know, Because I thought it was a dinner, bro. There's like 100 people there. It's like, that's a lot of handshake, a lot of mental energy to like. You're probably repeating the same thing over and over and over again.

[Chetty]

It's like when a fan comes up to you, you know, he's just like, hey, how you doing? Good to see you guys.

[EPG]

Yeah, bro, I don't know why he would do this, honestly, like when I. It's.

[Jesse]

But he's been doing that.

[EPG]

But it's like, dude, like when I do like a meet and greet. You've done these too. Like, it's all good. You're not like physically exhausted, but by the end of the day you're just mentally exhausted. Like, you're saying you're repeating yourself, you're meeting hella people. It's all Fun. It's all good. But, bro, the night before a amateur jiu jitsu tournament.

[Jesse]

Yeah, like, dude, straight up. Honestly, like, Toria doesn't. Torio didn't need to see me the night before the fight. Straight up, like, he did not need to talk to me at all. He would have his thing. He's like, not seeing me in a.

[Kyle]

Like, he must be leaning into the marketing of, like, he celebrates a win before he gets it. Like, that was like, I got. Wonder how much of it is like that. You know, it's an.

[EPG]

It's an aura. It's an aura gamble. But like, he puts his

[Chetty]

balls.

[EPG]

No, it is an Oregon balls out there. Yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

He just went through a divorce. This is his first fight back. It's a huge.

[EPG]

I mean, I got respect for him, bro. Like, at least he does that, you know? Like, at least he puts himself out there.

[Jesse]

I mean. And it worked the last. It worked the last three fights before

[Chetty]

he could do whatever the he wants.

[Santa Cruz]

It was really sad to watch him lose if. And from my opinion, just like what that guy's gone through and then the White House, all this high expectation. I don't know. That was crazy.

[EPG]

It was crazy. But just I'm, you know, I'm a gaii fan. I didn't think he was going to win this fight.

[Santa Cruz]

People always sleep on GAII for some reason.

[EPG]

They do.

[Jesse]

He's 8 and 2 know. Who did he lose to? He got knocked out by Rex Holloway.

[Santa Cruz]

But, like, that was in the last five.

[EPG]

Oliveira, right?

[Kyle]

Or no.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, Santa Cruz. What was your honest thought of Josh Hokitz?

[Chetty]

That guy's odd.

[Santa Cruz]

As I didn't really like that. I'm gonna be honest.

[Jesse]

Which one? Michelle Obama or the press conference?

[Santa Cruz]

I just think, like, my take from that was like, dude, like, if he went and said that on his own platform, on his IG or something, dude, do whatever you want, but when you use, like the ufc, the White House platform, you kind of like, you're pretty much including Dana and the present in whatever you do at that point.

[EPG]

I did not. I didn't. I didn't like it. I didn't like the whole calling Michelle Obama, man. Like, former president. Am I gonna chuckle?

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah.

[EPG]

Am I gonna chuckle at how crazy it is? Yeah, sure. But it's like, I don't with that. Like, no. Like, honestly, man, Obama served this country. And you can have your differences of opinion with whoever the sitting president is, but, like, they're. They are serving this country. And like, that is the whole theory

[Jesse]

with her being a Man, too, like, if there was more evidence, I maybe would have liked it.

[Chetty]

But like some deep conspiracy Chetty tech. She's a. It's all set up. She's a. She's a reptilian.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

It's just.

[EPG]

There's not any legit.

[Chetty]

I was geeking.

[Jesse]

She's a black lizard with a. Is the conspiracy theory.

[Chetty]

I'm with it 100%. I believe it too.

[Santa Cruz]

There was actually a video of Trump because Hokit gave Trump his necklace. I mean, that was probably the most viral thing you could say in the mic. So I guess if that's what he's

[EPG]

going for, he did a good job.

[Kyle]

But he did his job.

[Chetty]

Like he said that for a reason. Fellas, he's got the insider.

[Santa Cruz]

Trump took the necklace. He gave him a necklace. I think it was of Hokit and Trump kind of took it off. You could kind of see his reaction. You could see he was a little bothered by that too.

[EPG]

No, man, because, dude, Trump, despite all this stuff, he's not going around. He's not like he has respect for President Obama. Yeah. So I didn't fuck with it. But like, I, I get, I get why Hokit does that.

[Jesse]

I feel like it didn't play out too politically and shit like all the haters were saying before the fight. Right. Like, I feel like it. Yeah.

[EPG]

No, overall, that's the one thing that the really left media is clinging to that Hokut said this and this is platformed and it's like, bro, if, if you, if any of them knew the history of Hokit, he says, crazy. And you know, overall, no, the event was in my opinion, an amazing celebration of mixed martial arts and the United.

[Santa Cruz]

I think it was the most well done sports sporting event I've ever seen in my life.

[EPG]

Yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

Every walkout was perfect. Walking out with Medal of Honor, you know, veterans. Each walk out, each walkout was from a different area of the White House. It looked like at least, like it was just perfect.

[Kyle]

I don't think it's so annoying that it even has to be a political thing.

[Santa Cruz]

I didn't see any politics involved whatsoever. So I thought it was.

[Jesse]

Well, I think it was good they didn't have any other like random world leaders there and shit too. Right. Like, they kept it.

[Santa Cruz]

Like, I also didn't see any fighters there in the audience.

[EPG]

Yeah, they weren't panning to too many fighters. But, you know, I also, you know, they also didn't really show that many people. There was, I think if you probably

[Jesse]

saw it on the tv, but it was a ton of military, obviously.

[EPG]

Yeah. Which is great.

[Jesse]

Like, it was all. Yeah. Like. And they're all. Probably all fans of, like, us and, like, all our demographic, too. So, like, it was.

[Kyle]

You should experience.

[EPG]

What was it like? Like, getting there. Like, did you have to go through crazy security or what?

[Jesse]

Not really. I think that was all prepped beforehand. Like, all the names had to be sent in beforehand, which probably brings us to the story, too. You guys saw Salim missed the White House fight?

[Kyle]

How? Wait, what.

[EPG]

What happened? Him and Big John are in a hotel, and it looks okay. They're gonna go to the fights. That's what I'm seeing from a third person point of view. I'm like, oh, these boys are stoked.

[Jesse]

Lami got a day kill before the fight. He was fine. He was like, darty. He got a kill. No, no, the day of the fight. The day of the fight, he. He met a random girl on the street, and I, like, I walk. I walk into the lobby of the hotel. We're like, getting ready to leave, and some. Two fans are there, and they're like, yo, Saleem's with my sister.

[Santa Cruz]

And.

[Jesse]

And I'm like, oh, like, where is he? And then, like, the boys are like. Like, Gabe told me, like, Celine's banging his sister right now. Just having a drink with this kid at the bar. And then Celine comes out. He's not even like, I don't know what happened to him. He just, you know, he got into Lamy mode somehow.

[Chetty]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

And then he's like, bro, I can't do this. I can't go.

[Chetty]

And.

[Jesse]

And then like, oh, we all just kind of snapped here, bro. Like, we. We're like, bro, like, we wasted a ticket on you. You're like, we can't. We couldn't bring anyone else, too, because it was under his name.

[EPG]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

So we're like, bro, you wasted a White House ticket. And like, we're just like. He was just complaining. We're like, bro, just go then.

[Chetty]

Because he's the biggest UFC guy of all time, too.

[Jesse]

Yeah. And I. Exactly. I don't want to let my vibe be killed, too, because, you know, I was happy to be there and lucky to be there.

[Chetty]

Big L from Lomi. Dude, what? The.

[EPG]

Big John's hotel room looked disgusting, bro. Literally, like, what I see in there.

[Kyle]

Who won this fight, huh?

[Chetty]

Yeah, dude, I'm sharing a room with Big J in two weeks at Pinehurst. I told him if our room looks like this, he's actually. He's out.

[Jesse]

This can't be big Js. You know, big Jay, though, he's chill. He's. He. He's. You know, he knows.

[Chetty]

This was a. This was a Lamy.

[Jesse]

This is just, like. I just.

[Chetty]

It's.

[Jesse]

I don't know how you. You missed the White House on the floor there.

[Chetty]

He threw up in my suitcase at the Hole in one challenge. Lami's.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

But no, once we got there, like, walking in and just obviously seeing the. The scenery, it was. It was very surreal.

[Kyle]

Did you go in the White House?

[Jesse]

No.

[Kyle]

Have you ever?

[Jesse]

We went, like, a month ago. I went a month ago.

[Chetty]

Oh, Survives in there.

[Jesse]

Just go inside the White House.

[Chetty]

Yeah. Just nice as.

[Jesse]

To be honest, it's a little. I mean, Steiny's been in there, too. I think it's a little old.

[Santa Cruz]

It's.

[Kyle]

It's old.

[Jesse]

It's a little underwhelming.

[Santa Cruz]

It's just like, old house in South Carolina.

[Chetty]

Like, Trump Doral's Nice as. When you walk in there, that's probably nicer in there.

[Santa Cruz]

Does Saleem. Like, is he embarrassed? I mean, to most people, this is, like, pretty insane.

[Jesse]

I'm not sure. I have not talked to him about it.

[Chetty]

I'd be. I'd be more shook than the hole in one challenge, and I got ripped pretty good from the Internet.

[EPG]

How do you not. I don't. I still don't understand. Like, he just, like, was too up to go or like, he didn't like, situation.

[Chetty]

That's not even a stooge.

[EPG]

No.

[Jesse]

He wasn't even racked or, like, that drunk. That's what I was. I was like, dude, you're fine. Like, it's just. But I didn't. I don't even know. It's just. I can't.

[EPG]

You don't have time in that situation. You're like, I'm gonna go to the fights. Like, if I see you there, I see you there. Yeah, you got to do your thing.

[Kyle]

Like, if you could sell a ticket, do you think it's, like, 100 grand?

[EPG]

It'd probably be more because it'd be more than NBA Finals. A lot of those tickets, I think, were going for a couple hundred thousand. Yeah.

[Jesse]

That's crazy.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

No, I know. Dana was getting blown up for sure.

[Kyle]

A lot of people asked him a couple favors.

[EPG]

Dude, it was insane, bro.

[Jesse]

Yeah, it was. It was really, really cool, bro.

[Kyle]

The whole thing was iconic. It was.

[Jesse]

I. I'd honestly want to go back and watch it on tv.

[Santa Cruz]

And how heavy was the security? Because some dudes. There was a whole thing that Five people got arrested today for conspiracy to. I think they were trying to bomb the event. Drones.

[EPG]

We saw that. Yeah, yeah. FBI.

[Chetty]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

We were saying, we don't know if. We don't know if this was real or is this Cash Patel just trying to look like a beauty.

[Santa Cruz]

Who knows? But was it. How heavy was the security? There was no thought of, like, anything happening. Felt pretty safe.

[Jesse]

Yeah, I felt completely. I felt completely safe in the moment.

[EPG]

There's so many snipers around, bro. It's like.

[Jesse]

There was snipers on the roof at the press conference. I noticed that.

[Kyle]

Dude, the.

[Jesse]

The press conference was crazy, too, bro. Like, them walking down from the Lincoln Memorial.

[EPG]

We could hear y' all chirping in the press conference.

[Santa Cruz]

Oh, yeah.

[Jesse]

So you heard Celine was bundled there, too, bro?

[Kyle]

Yeah, dude.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

You heard him screaming? Yeah, dude, he's just screaming, nonsense, bro.

[EPG]

Yeah, dude. It was insane.

[Santa Cruz]

And then.

[EPG]

You know, the crazy thing about this is.

[Jesse]

It's crazy, bro.

[Santa Cruz]

It's pretty embarrassing. I'm not gonna lie.

[Jesse]

It's very embarrassing, bro. Shahidi was furious, dude.

[EPG]

I don't know how you missed that.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah.

[EPG]

But there was a lot of, like, negative US Sentiment in, like, comment sections and stuff leading up to this fight. I've been posting about it a lot this week of, like. I don't. I really feel like the. A lot of the younger generation hasn't read, like, basic stuff about World War II, the American revolutionary War. Like, it's getting kind of to this crazy place. I did a post today listing the top 10 countries by population, and I'm like, where would you rather live? Because it's like, China, India, Bangladesh, Russia, the Philippines, you know? And it's like, we got to compare apples to apples. People go, oh, well, I'd rather live in Switzerland. Switzerland has fucking less people than North Carolina or is around the same population.

[Santa Cruz]

What's your point? That there's lack of education right now?

[EPG]

No, my. My point. My point is if you compare apples to apples with population, the United States is clearly the best place in the world to live and raise a family. There's not even a rational debate. And so we have a lot of stuff to improve on in this country, but we can actually criticize our leaders. We can ask for better leadership. We can do stuff like, go, Go do that in China. Go protest in China. Go protest in Russia.

[Santa Cruz]

I agree with you. I think it's getting.

[Jesse]

You can't even whisper that in China.

[Kyle]

I've been there.

[Santa Cruz]

There is too much here, and it is. I mean, there's a lot of here.

[EPG]

We can speak on it.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, we should speak on it. And it's like, even this Mary, the mayor election here in la, completely, it's like, it's pretty clear. Like, there's some fishy going on. Yeah. And it's complete. I haven't even heard of this other lady. So Spencer Pratt's now suing Karen Bass with her brother. Karen Bass's own brother is going against her for his house burning down la. You can't write this, bro.

[EPG]

It's intense.

[Santa Cruz]

It's like a Simpsons episode. It's embarrassing. Yep. So, yeah, that. Just the fact that that's where we're at. I. I am tired of people complaining about this because it's, like, ridiculous here.

[EPG]

Yeah. It should start off on the basis. It should start off on the basis of United States is the best, like, experiment on earth and it's the best place to live. And now let's try to make it even better. But for a lot of the younger generation, it starts with this idea they have in their head of the United States sucks. But it's like, bro, you're thinking, where. Where else would you want to live? I'm genuinely asking people like, you can pull up.

[Kyle]

You can Google Japan, but Japan isn't

[EPG]

even on that list of top 10 countries or population.

[Santa Cruz]

Saw someone stopped you on your way into the White House.

[Chetty]

Oh, yeah, the TMZ guy. That was crazy.

[Santa Cruz]

Someone stopped you and said, hey, it's only about, like, what. What's your. Would you ever run for office? And you're like, dude, you know, I don't think politics. You don't feel a difference where somebody. Something like that was your response.

[Jesse]

But it's like, I mean, I think. I think like, in areas of politics, you can obviously make a difference. Like, maybe. Maybe even lower levels of office. You can make a difference.

[Santa Cruz]

Santa Cruz, you'll maybe agree, but what I'm. What I thought about that is too many people. Too Many people dedicate 10 years, five years of their lives complaining about something that is not going to really affect them. Instead of, like, that's like an excuse. Oh, let me make these excuses. It's this fucking merits. It's like, dude, just focus on yourself and your life and your career instead of just blaming everybody else and blaming the country. And you will go a lot further and be less affected than you really think.

[EPG]

Because, like, 100. I just want people to have a rational explanation. If they say they hate the United States so much, I would love them to pull up that list of top 10 countries with population and tell me where they'd rather live. And when you say something like, I'd rather live in Switzerland, well, okay, good luck immigrating to Switzerland As a United States citizen. You have to be in biotech. You have to be an Engineer. It's a 10 year process. They're not letting people in. You say you want to go. People said in the comments they want to go live in Costa Rica. Costa Rica has less people than Alabama in the United States has around the same population, 5 million. And it's like, oh, Costa Rica doesn't have a military. That's so cool. If we didn't have a military, we would not exist tomorrow. It's like, people don't compare apples to apples. So how do you govern over 330 million people? The United States is doing a decent job at it. You know, people go, oh, well, we want in. In Indonesia, you can buy a house for 200 grand. It's because they have basically slave labor. Yeah, it goes so many.

[Jesse]

I agree with that too. I don't know why people always think that. It's like every other government is like, not evil and the US Government's the only evil one.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, yeah, go.

[EPG]

Go get involved in politics.

[Jesse]

Any country would swap spots with the US if they could.

[Santa Cruz]

Like, the other point I want to make people, I'm sure Jesse Santa Cruz, you guys get this too. It's like, oh, you live in California. Like, you live in that high state income tax liberal. I'm like, dude, I love this place. Like, yeah, you're right. Like, yeah, there's not everything's perfect, but it's beautiful here. It's an amazing place to live. Like, people.

[EPG]

People just haven't talked to actual immigrants. Like, hey, talk to my ex, immigrated here. Go, go talk to her. Be like, why did you come here? My wife's family. Why did you leave Mexico and become u. S. Citizens? Talk to them. And if for people commenting they'd rather go live in Mexico in the comments, like, go get involved in the government, Mexico. Go criticize them. Look up how many people go missing in government every year in Mexico.

[Jesse]

What the.

[EPG]

It's crazy, bro. Yeah, people are delusional. And then another thing that kind of ties in with this is there's a lot of the young generation that thinks every single thing is fake with these fights. The amount of videos I saw that this was scripted. There were rocks in Gaichi's gloves, dumbass. Like, oh, they let gaethje do steroids. That's not even how steroids work. Look, at the Enhanced Games, you can't. Oh, Gaethje, you can do steroids. You're suddenly going to beat Ilia Topuria. That's not even how that works. Even if that was a fucking thing, which it's not, people think every single thing is.

[Jesse]

Theories are just out of control nowadays too.

[Kyle]

It's.

[EPG]

And I get where it comes.

[Jesse]

I've been into conspiracy theories since fucking like 911 and shit too. Like, I've always been into it and now it's just like, now it's just like everything's a conspiracy theory, bro.

[Santa Cruz]

All these small accounts that have like 2 or 3,000 followers post the craziest shit for engagement farming.

[Kyle]

What the Is this?

[Chetty]

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[EPG]

It's the tape from his fucking. It's the tape from his fucking gloves.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, wait. Click on that page though. Go to the chicken king, mma, bro.

[EPG]

It's the clearest example that you've never. If you believe some of this shit, you've never played a sport.

[Santa Cruz]

Followers like, he's clearly just trying to get engagement on the page.

[EPG]

It's the clearest thing that you've never played a sport or you've never sparred anybody. If you think that she was fake, like, oh yeah, you think Ilya's orbital bone is going to break even? Even with the Knicks shit. People are like there was magnets in the ball. It's like you just never played a sport. It's what happens when two teams or two fighters that are close in skill go up against each other. You occasionally get a fucking amazing last minute result. What happens?

[Jesse]

People ask me that all the time. Are the fights rigged?

[Kyle]

Like, he's made. He made this post to get like engaged. He's probably selling a book or something. Like, it's like, it's so annoying.

[Jesse]

What was with that? What was with that Eric Trump DC shit? Was that just completely fake too?

[Santa Cruz]

I can tell the brief breakdown because I looked into that because it was crazy and it was covered by Everybody. But apparently AI account that was impersonating Eric Trump DM'd DC asking for if there's inside info on the fight. And DC went and tweeted out his DMs. And he was like, I can't. I can't not expose this. And then he deleted it pretty quickly.

[Jesse]

And surprised D.C. did that.

[Santa Cruz]

Right? He. He definitely tweeted it right. Santa Cruz or Jesse. Do you guys know he.

[EPG]

He did tweet that he. But whether that was him being hacked or the Eric Trump DM was fake is yet to be really figured out. The craziest thing about it, in my opinion is like, there's a group of hackers. There's two groups of hackers. There's one that just go for the money. They go into Elon Musk account and they tweet, hey, send crypto to this address and I'm going to double it. Honestly, if I was some evil hacker, that's probably what I would do than just trying to get money and go, like, live peacefully. But there's another group of hackers. They arrested a lot of these guys. They were called the Lowell Sector or something, where they just. With people, they just like creating controversy. They would go into the FBI's website and put dicks on it, stuff like that. This seems like that vibe where right before the fights, they're trying to create this, like, controversy about betting and Trump. And that's kind of what this seemed like in hindsight.

[Kyle]

So they do it from his account. Like, from Eric Trump's. It looks like he's actually DMing you. Yeah, I mean, I don't hate on DC for being like. I mean, he's a true. Like, he loves the sport. He's just like, what is this? But, like, yeah, if it is, how do they prove it? That. That's. That's fake.

[Jesse]

Eric Trump would probably ask someone else, like, besides DC too, you know, and

[Santa Cruz]

maybe not over Twitter. Dms? Yeah. I don't think he would put it. Hopefully he wouldn't put that in writing. I think it's pretty funny, though, how much like, Dana just has to deal with like, that's like 30 minutes before the fight. Everything's about to happen, biggest stage. And then he's like, what the. I gotta deal.

[EPG]

Trump's sitting next to him. Like, what the is this?

[Santa Cruz]

You know, Dana, what did you dap up Baron?

[Jesse]

I didn't.

[Santa Cruz]

I saw Shoddy with Baron. You send it with Baron.

[Chetty]

I just saw that Baron's drop in a beverage company. Like one.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah.

[EPG]

Doing like a yerba mate. I talked to actually, his team over there. I was chopping it up.

[Chetty]

Solos or something. It's called. Looks like a little Florida beverage.

[Jesse]

No, I didn't.

[EPG]

That looks like a healthy yerba.

[Santa Cruz]

Any, any, any dap ups over there worth mentioning?

[Jesse]

We were chilling, we were chilling with Kai Trump a little bit. Talking about golf with her. No, I mean it's kind of, it was kind of the usual suspects there. Not a lot of celebrities wanted to go to the White House fight I guess.

[Santa Cruz]

Right.

[Jesse]

Like McGregor is going to be more star studded than the White House fight.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, I sent him a long message when I was lit.

[Jesse]

Let's talk about that.

[Chetty]

What?

[Jesse]

To who? McGregor?

[Kyle]

Yeah, he, he, he responded.

[Santa Cruz]

He likes it.

[Jesse]

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[EPG]

I know what Gaichi should do. Gaichi should chill and wait to see if McGregor somehow beats Holloway. If McGregor beats Holloway, Gaethji calls out McGregor and they do the one of the biggest fights of all time. In human history. If McGregor doesn't beat Holloway, I think what Gaichi should do is announce his retirement, do a special thing, and then he should chill for nine months, maybe a year. He should do one boxing fight to get a big bag of money.

[Jesse]

Can't get out. He's not out of his contract, though.

[EPG]

But if he retires, right? If he like.

[Jesse]

No retires.

[EPG]

No.

[Jesse]

I think you got to always fight your way out of your contract.

[Santa Cruz]

Armon is real fucking G and he's a fucking beast. And he has a real fucking following. Like, there's no reason.

[Jesse]

I mean. I mean, how is Armon not automatic automatically next.

[Santa Cruz]

I don't know how. He's not like, fighting and getting. Dude, that guy, I mean, he.

[Jesse]

He fucked up that one main event, but he's. He's done his prison sentence, he's paid his dues, and he's got a way

[Santa Cruz]

bigger fan base now than he did back then.

[EPG]

He's a huge fan base. I hate when people think that the social media, they're like, it's just social media. It's like, no, that. That is the people that watch the fights. Yeah, bro. Armin. Armin Gaethje would be huge.

[Jesse]

I think it's going to be Ilia.

[EPG]

Ilia.

[Jesse]

Patty Pimblets the fight to make next for Ilia.

[EPG]

Yeah, that would be fire. I think everyone would get juice for that.

[Jesse]

I mean, Ilya is going to probably

[Kyle]

heal up, but he's probably taken, what, six months off. Like, he got up, dude. If he has a broken.

[Santa Cruz]

I actually don't get what Gaethje's fists are made of, bro. Because Patty Pimlet and Hori's both, like, their faces, they look different people, dude.

[Kyle]

Even Khabib. Khabib said that the. The hardest he's been hit was from Gaichi. Like, it's like the gates.

[EPG]

He has this weird, like, dude, it's farm boy.

[Kyle]

Almost like Tyson just like rips those hooks into people. Like, he throws his whole body into it. Like, I bet you, I'm telling you

[Santa Cruz]

from experience, when you grow up and you have to do in the backyard and around the house, it gives you different strength.

[EPG]

That's why you have hands of stone.

[Jesse]

Steiny's private tennis instructor made him pick up the balls after practice.

[Santa Cruz]

Gabe's never been the same. Made that boy bisexual. I hit him so hard, bro. Like, I will also tell you this Nina drama sent me a very nice dm.

[EPG]

So Beef.

[Santa Cruz]

Glad Beef. Yeah. She. I said some nice words. She reached out, sent me a long message.

[EPG]

So Nice. You guys are gonna do a stream soon.

[Jesse]

That's true. I saw a post about Nina too. Like, someone's like, for all the hate she gets and shit. Like, look what she did with Armand. Like, she literally brought out Armand's personality and kind of. If you're looking for fight interviews, there's a lot of outlets to go for that, but she's really great at bringing out fighters personalities, love for the game.

[Chetty]

Steiny just had to throw a little bit of he.

[Kyle]

I mean, she. She got a really hard job to be an influencer for the ufc.

[EPG]

That's.

[Kyle]

That's a hard job to, like, not be hated. Like, I don't.

[Santa Cruz]

Dude, she has 99.9 of just males who probably, like, want a banger just judging her and throwing shade at her.

[Jesse]

So you and the 99 are the 1%.

[Santa Cruz]

I'm showing love. No, I'm saying. I'm saying, like, the 99.9% are just all male.

[Chetty]

I'm saying. Yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

Trying to call me a female saying,

[Jesse]

you said 99 of her fans want a banger. So I said, are you in the middle?

[EPG]

You're 99.

[Santa Cruz]

What I mean is 99.9 are, like, just males who, like, are just a woman.

[Chetty]

Do you want to ban Nina for the clip?

[Santa Cruz]

No, no, she's a. I have a mutual. We have a mutual respect for each other. That being said, she's definitely good looking, very sweet.

[EPG]

She's a legend, bro. She's honestly crushed the ufc, like, media game, and she kind of created her own role within the company, which is pretty gangst in its own right. So. Yeah, and she does, like, help build up these fighters. It's wild, dude.

[Santa Cruz]

Like, oh, she does.

[EPG]

She really has, and I don't. Dude. Yeah. So the next fights, I don't know what's gonna get, like, made next. I do like that Patty Ilia, because now people are probably looking at Patty, like, wait, Patty's pretty good. He went to decision with Gai. You know what I mean? Like, it makes Patty kind of look better in a way.

[Santa Cruz]

It was kind of weird to me to see, like, they released the fight purses. I think Sugar sean made like 600k. I don't know why. That was just kind of weird to see.

[EPG]

They all make more than that, though. There's, like, the fight purse, then there's like, this ufc, like, back end pay. Like, there. There's a lot of, like.

[Santa Cruz]

Like, when I see Pereira make 10 million, that's what they're claiming to go up a weight class and fight On. I'm like, that's a no brainer.

[EPG]

People saying Ilya quit. It's Bro, he, he. I don't think that's quitting, you know, he. Dude, the doctor wanted to stop the fight and he was like, no.

[Jesse]

Once you imagine that happened, bro, I

[EPG]

was joking that, that there's going to be snipers on the fucking doctor, you know, like, lazy. The doctors will look down, there's going to be a laser beam. He's like, all right, I can't stop this fight.

[Kyle]

Dude, that's so funny. We made the same joke. They're going to fucking snipe this guy if he fudgeing calls the fight.

[EPG]

I've never broken an orbital bone. I've broken my nose before. There is zero way I would go into a round of a fight with a broken nose, let alone a broken nose and orbital and whatever other damage he had. The dude's a warrior. I don't like this idea of, oh, he quit. Like, I don't like.

[Kyle]

Yeah, but 99 of the people saying he's a and quit have never even been punched in the face. It's like, shut the up, bro. Like, I guess the only argument would be like, he loses his record and it's at the White House and it's like, just, you're already up. Like, just go die in the ring. And in like a metaphor. But like, I don't know. I don't think he could see, dude. I literally don't think he could see.

[Jesse]

Like, do you guys think we'd see any, like, demeanor changes from Ilya? Like, is he gonna keep doing the fight, the celebrations before the fight, or is he gonna kind of.

[Kyle]

Oh, he'll switch.

[EPG]

There has to be a demeanor.

[Santa Cruz]

I think you have to adjust. You can't carry that same energy if

[EPG]

you don't still have like that, like.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, it's kind of like Sugar Suga changed up after his loss, right?

[EPG]

Yeah, yeah, he did. Suga has like a, a more like quiet confidence now where, like, in this whole lead up to the fight, Sugar was like, sugar's just himself.

[Santa Cruz]

No, but there was a point where he said he got lost in the sauce a little bit. Yeah. Which makes sense.

[EPG]

He's not like, I'm going to KO this guy second round. Like, I, you know, saw it and he's just like, I think I'm gonna, I want to get a classic Suga ko. And he did.

[Jesse]

Dude, Suga looked sharp.

[EPG]

So good.

[Jesse]

He looked dialed, bro.

[EPG]

It was a hobby's really hard to finish, bro. That's why I didn't even mind, like, the bed of that fight, going to decision. But I did. I put money on Sugar, second round ko, because it's like Zahabi's gonna get frustrated, and he did. And once he opens up, Sugar's just a sniper, bro. And the way he KO'd him and then walked off was just g. I

[Santa Cruz]

think Suga and Toporia would still be a good fight, and it'd be very, very.

[Jesse]

That's miles away from happening now, though.

[Santa Cruz]

Miles away. But, like, there was a time when it was about to happen. Yeah, that'd be. That would have been.

[Jesse]

Poria is not moving around anytime soon now, bro.

[EPG]

Yeah, he's pretty cooked right now.

[Kyle]

I mean, you know, that's Sanhagen. Sanhagen and o', Malley, which is. It's just for the. It would just be a great fight.

[EPG]

Yeah. I think they'll make Pyotr yawn and Sean o' Malley next. Sean's such a big draw. He gets to call his shots a little bit. That's the business of the ufc, as it. As it should be, honestly. And it makes sense. So I think they're gonna make that fight. I don't know what Pereira does next. Like, does he do another heavyweight fight? Does he drop back down to 205? That one surprised me. I thought Pero would win.

[Jesse]

I said, that guy's a Teddy. Might be the guy, bro, to call fights

[Chetty]

garbage. Pereira's lost me over six mystic cheddar.

[Jesse]

Let's hear that. Let's hear the McGregor prediction.

[Chetty]

Dude, you know, I don't know, boys.

[Jesse]

I'm day before. That's what I'm saying.

[Chetty]

I need you guys helping me find

[EPG]

who the best goes on, like, a vision quest. He does a bunch of drugs and like I do. Comes them in a video.

[Chetty]

No, I don't. I'm not Aaron Rodgers, buddy.

[Kyle]

All right?

[Chetty]

I just have a couple beers, smoke some kush, and I like. I see the board clear sometimes, right?

[Kyle]

I think McGregor loses by decision. That's what I think.

[Chetty]

Is McGregor washed now, boys, or what's going on?

[Santa Cruz]

I know he's washed, but he's coming back. McGregor's good.

[Chetty]

Who's the goaded on the feet striker? Those are the guys I'm rooting for forever.

[Santa Cruz]

Now.

[Chetty]

That's fun to watch like that gaethje fight.

[Jesse]

McGregor are goaded strikers.

[Chetty]

Yeah, those are the two, huh?

[EPG]

Sean O', Malley, if it's gonna be on the feet, if the fight's on the feet, I'm not picking against Sean o' Malley ever. If there's a really, really good grappler, it's a little bit tough. Sean o' Malley's grappling is great, but like, you know, you saw in some of those.

[Chetty]

I hated that fight. That, like.

[EPG]

Yeah, it's just hard to win. It's hard to beat that guy with his gas tank. And he's gonna win rounds and put you in kind of that hole. You're down like three rounds to zero. Four rounds. Zero. It's tough.

[Jesse]

Did this fight just take over everything too? I didn't hear about the Stanley cup, bro.

[Chetty]

I didn't hear. Dude, I didn't hear a thing.

[Jesse]

I haven't seen one clip of the Stanley cup on social media on my feet. Besides this one. Besides this one girl that I follow from barstool, that's at Carolina.

[Chetty]

I saw one clip, two of them holding the trophy. Usually there's a zillion. It was the Knicks in this UFC fight. Just dunked on that like it was.

[EPG]

Yeah, the Nick was dope, buddy.

[Jesse]

No chance. We saw that.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, I don't think many. I think maybe you and a couple others saw that.

[Chetty]

You and Ty Gretzky, the Hurricane coach,

[EPG]

bro, that dude could be getting a grass fed steak next to me. I wouldn't know who he was.

[Chetty]

All right, boys. So we saw everything with the. The spurs fans walking into the Knicks crowds and stuff with WBJ's, and everyone just gets the beat out of them. If you got three, three guys to call it, you can pick to be on your side walking through the crowds and Wemby backwards. Js. Who are you picking?

[EPG]

I just need one, bro. My. One of my actual security guys is Todd Duffy. If you look up, Todd Duffy had one fastest heavyweight knockouts. Yeah, he's. He's a super soldier. Yeah. Todd's taken out 15 of these guys easy.

[Chetty]

They need to be big heavyweights.

[Jesse]

Like you're saying one guy to roll with to like protect you and one guy.

[Chetty]

One guy. One guy to Rol.

[Jesse]

Dude, those Knicks fans are savage. I feel like no one's gonna really protect. I'd feel like I'd bring like the Dalai Lama or something and take my chances with that.

[EPG]

Try to go maybe all the dice.

[Jesse]

Yeah, just like peace through strength type.

[EPG]

Hey, man, they would up the Dalai Lama if he's wearing a Wemby jersey. That's the problem. He said you're wearing Wemby jerseys.

[Jesse]

I'm going Dalai Lama, taking my chances.

[Santa Cruz]

How lame you have to be to like wear a Spurs jersey. And stream yourself in New York to try and like risk your life to get clips. Yeah, that's like, dude, what the.

[Jesse]

I did that back in the day for videos, so I can't say, but.

[Santa Cruz]

Well, I don't know at this level. New York.

[Jesse]

Yeah, but I wouldn't go to Nick. I beefed Warriors Bronx, bro.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, you're good in San Francisco, bro.

[Jesse]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I was kind of scared. It's kind of scary actually.

[Chetty]

You'll get hit with like a little fentanyl used needle or something. Just jabbed quick.

[EPG]

Yeah, you'd have to bring in a bunch of super soldiers. I brought this, this guy to security for us. I brought him to the Matan thing. If you look up baton, Santa Cruz security guard, you'll see him and he's like 6 to 315 pounds, all muscle. The dude like that, they can wear a Wendy jersey.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah. This is going to sound kind of weird, but like, you know who I think is one of the most powerful people in New York is honestly the Rizzler.

[EPG]

For real.

[Santa Cruz]

He's like the most loved guy ever. Agreed.

[Chetty]

Yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

Can that guy walk into any restaurant and get it? Like for Charles prime rib, if he walks in there and asks for a table, he's probably going to get it. Oh, like that's different motion. Serious, bro.

[EPG]

No idea. Crazy motion. It's also like a kid you don't want to be mean to.

[Jesse]

How old is Rizzler now?

[EPG]

He's like nine.

[Chetty]

Seven.

[Jesse]

He's only nine.

[Kyle]

Yeah, 22.

[Santa Cruz]

He's like the king of New York.

[Chetty]

No way. Jesse thought the wrestler was 22.

[Santa Cruz]

You're thinking Hasbulla, bro.

[Kyle]

Why are you thinking of husbula's like 82, dude. He's.

[Santa Cruz]

Where is that little. What happened?

[Chetty]

I've been trying to run a straight.

[Santa Cruz]

Hopefully someone beat his ass. Finally I thought about it, bro. I was like, yo, should I just shove this little. For the like one time, dude, Hasbullah

[Jesse]

made like Hasbulla made like a mill and just said, peace out, bro.

[Chetty]

Yeah, Benny Shiny 50,

[EPG]

bro. People got all mad that I said this kid. I, I said, this kid is pre diabetic. He doesn't have significant health issues. People got mad like, oh, you guys think it's cute. Like, like you think it's cute now? Like, this is diabetes. You know, his HBA1C is probably extremely high. Oh, so cute. Like, do you want this kid to live a healthy, fulfilled life? Like, you know he needs to lock

[Santa Cruz]

in, dude, you don't The Rizzler can do what the he wants, bro.

[Chetty]

No, he'll lock in, bro.

[EPG]

Dude, it's cute now, but it's not.

[Kyle]

Oh cool.

[EPG]

He's 20 and has severe diabetes.

[Santa Cruz]

Santa Cruz, watch your six. You have a hit on you when this comes out, my boy.

[EPG]

No, I know. I. I actually did that. I did.

[Santa Cruz]

When you step foot, send him a DM and you let me know you're there, bro.

[EPG]

My comment section was a lot of threats when I made that video, but I'm just stating the facts.

[Kyle]

These are. Yo, give him, give him 10 years, he's going to go through like a breakup and then he's going to lock in.

[EPG]

Yeah, no, he can lock in. He's got time.

[Kyle]

You can be basically the Rizzler. When I was his age, I was a unit.

[Chetty]

I was a unit kid called pizza box at recess.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, I was not that kid.

[Kyle]

But he got four snack has time.

[Jesse]

Let him eat some every day.

[EPG]

No, I'm coming from a positive place. He needs to lock in. Not this, not today, not tomorrow, but

[Chetty]

when he's 12 to 13, you lock it.

[Santa Cruz]

He's low key. Like the one guy I don't want Internet beef with ever. Like fuck, I'm steering clear of that.

[Kyle]

But like put him on a treadmill for a bit. Dunk them in like a cold plunge. Like get him going a bit.

[Santa Cruz]

Nah, he can do that in a few years. Let him be for now.

[Chetty]

13, 14, Rizzler locks in and he gets on ratatruetide. Beautiful. Chill.

[Santa Cruz]

Imagine the Rizzler just like wore a suit every day. Like, like a little Tony Soprano. I don't know.

[Kyle]

Yo, that's a good prediction.

[EPG]

Bet.

[Kyle]

When does the Rizzler lock in?

[Jesse]

Yeah, did you see the clip? I think. I don't know if he who he was on, but a lot. He was saying like a lot of kids from school hit him up now that he's like famous and. Yeah, I did with him maybe or someone.

[Kyle]

I don't know. He said it on somewhere.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, he said that he's got the

[Chetty]

follow back from Rizzler.

[Santa Cruz]

I've talked to Papa Riz a few times same year.

[EPG]

I'm not gonna get that follow now, but it's okay.

[Chetty]

I'm in everyone's DMS, dude firing at McCray and

[Kyle]

what's going on? David Barr, Are they with you?

[EPG]

David Barr? Yeah, they sent me a cease and desist. They didn't like some things I said and I'm trusting my legal team. Although I don't, you know, that Stuff's frustrating. You all know how that is. I can just say I think they're goofy. That's all I'll say.

[Kyle]

I used to eat them at Equinox. They were there. Yeah.

[Jesse]

For defamation.

[EPG]

Yeah. Cease and desist for. They didn't like a few things that I said about their bars. But EPG is great, guys. Google EPG and be like, yeah, that's something I want to eat. That's great. It's totally healthy.

[Chetty]

Wait, whatever. The food you're talking about.

[EPG]

PG David bars.

[Chetty]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Kyle]

Why aren't you allowed to have an opinion and. And say, like, yo, I don't recommend this food. This. These are the ingredients. Why is that like a. You could get sued.

[EPG]

It's like, I mean, I. I am. I am allowed to have an opinion. What pharma tech. What it is, is a nuance argument around. I called them Epstein affiliated because Dr. Peter Attia used to be involved with their company. And then Dr. Peter Atia allegedly had emails with Epstein. And so I made that jump. And that's probably the great line wrong of me.

[Kyle]

That comes like defamation.

[EPG]

Oh, yeah, that was. It was very wrong of me. So I, you know, I take that back. And everybody should eat epg. Just Google it. Eat it. David Barr's great.

[Chetty]

What about IQ Bars? Because I just picked up a couple of those Jimmies.

[EPG]

I've seen those. I've seen those pop up. I don't even know what's in those. Honestly,

[Chetty]

my health knowledge on here. Every pot I come on, I get like three to four cues off the

[Jesse]

gay clip of Santa Cruz.

[Chetty]

Yeah. Jesse goes, what do you think? Santa Cruz.

[EPG]

Yeah, that one went off.

[Santa Cruz]

It is kind of funny, though. Like, people like, not. This isn't shade. But you learned all this from somebody else. He's just repeating what other people say too. That could be like a negative.

[EPG]

That's kind of like perspective, for sure.

[Santa Cruz]

That's everything, I guess, but that's.

[EPG]

That's everything. I mean, what I do is I'm not, like, I'm not a scientist. I feel like what I do is I show people how I live and what I've learned about health, and then, like, I make it digestible for people. Like, I might know more than average person in terms of science and biochemistry, but I'm not like a, you know, genius with it, But I give people stuff to actually, like, do in their lives where they can be like, all right, I'm gonna start doing this and feeling better, which some of the scientists don't do a good Job at here.

[Kyle]

I got a. I got a hot take for you. I think a couple light beers is technically healthy because you. Because stress and feeling happy and lightening your mood is really good for your health.

[Chetty]

I feel that, But I can't have a couple. I feel that, but I can't have a couple.

[Santa Cruz]

I can't either.

[Kyle]

But if you can find the sauce, find that middle ground where you can have a couple.

[EPG]

But there's. There's studies on alcohol that it increases baseline anxiety over time, even small amounts of drinking. It decreases your brain volume and actual gray matter in your brain. It messes with your sleep.

[Chetty]

But, like, people.

[EPG]

People are always astonished that I. That I. With you guys. And, like, I. Whatever. I'm, like, filming with Big John. They're like, wait, but you don't drink. It's like, this is where I have this, like, debate always in my comment, where I'm like, I. I used to drink when I was young. I've talked about many times. And so it's like, I'm not here to judge others. I'm here to just. I want people to feel good and be healthy. So if Chetty comes to me and he's like, dude, I've been feeling horrible. I'm gonna be like, hey, bro, don't drink for a while. If you go to me and you're like, dude, I had a few beers at a UFC event. I feel fine. I'll be like, dude, take some N acetylcysteine, hydrate up. It's not like I'm not trying to make people live how I live. I show how I live and try to get people just to, like, live as healthy as they can.

[Kyle]

Go both ways, right? Like, it could be like, well, imagine someone doesn't like you because they drink. It's like, exactly. It's like, it's silly.

[EPG]

Like, yeah, live and let live, you know?

[Chetty]

Jesse, get on the glutathione when you're stewing. I. I actually think. I actually think it's the only thing that helps.

[EPG]

Teddy's injecting glutathione right as that first beer.

[Kyle]

Is that like a diamond?

[Chetty]

Putting BC into my mitt by myself. Like, don't care because I need my hand to heal. I just. I don't even.

[EPG]

Dude, BPC works, bro.

[Chetty]

Mind me overloading it.

[EPG]

I am eight weeks ahead of normal MRIs on my knee, and guaranteed I'm spending a lot of money on my knee. But this, like, documentary that I do is going to be insane because I'm doing no Surgery, rehab for the acl, it's already regrowing. People think in. In general medicine that ACLs can't regrow on their own. They can. There's plenty of evidence of it. It's crazy, bro. I'm stoked to release everything.

[Santa Cruz]

I'm officially locking in, like, I have to now. I'm gonna do something soon, I'll tell you, this summer. But I'm doing something. And, yeah, gotta make a couple lifestyle changes.

[Kyle]

So, yeah, let's all lock in.

[EPG]

Kyle's more locked in than me. I mean, right now, like, you're.

[Santa Cruz]

You're.

[Jesse]

This weekend, bro.

[EPG]

This weekend, sure. But I mean, just kind of like,

[Santa Cruz]

dude, like, I don't. Like what? There's nothing cool about being the drunk guy at the bar, dude.

[Chetty]

I don't enjoy. I don't enjoy going out. After this weekend, I went back to my college bar for the first time in like four years. I need to wear medic glasses when I go out. The kids that come up to me, bro, I'm like, you guys are the dumbest. Hey, you want a nose nacho? Chatty, you want a nacho? Come with me. I'm telling you.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, the meta glasses are going to show you hitting the key. It's like going to look down at a key, bro.

[Kyle]

They go.

[EPG]

They go offer to him.

[Chetty]

The next clip is like, God, these kids are dweebs now.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, you guys are fucking dweebs. But I'll take a nacho.

[EPG]

There's a huge difference in people who go out, have a few drinks and have a good time versus people who go out. And it's like 10 out of 10 every time they go out that.

[Jesse]

I'm telling you, bro, the best way to do it is to set a goal and a deadline. And we should come back next week and you should have a goal and a deadline.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[EPG]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

If you guys all want to do that, I would do that with you guys.

[Santa Cruz]

I already have it. We could do it next week, but I have it.

[Jesse]

But you gotta say it and you gotta put it out loud.

[Santa Cruz]

I'm also gonna take. I already have my peptide stack, so I'll show everything. I don't give a, buddy.

[Chetty]

Get them through me. Chetty's taking over with this. Get them through my company. I'll ship them for free.

[Santa Cruz]

I already got a company.

[Chetty]

No, Chinese tech, bud.

[Kyle]

Yeah, I just posted it last. Last week. I'm trying to get to 1140 in 11 weeks. So I'm. That's my goal.

[Chetty]

All right, goals by next pod. Let's go. I gotta actually lock it up.

[Jesse]

I'm already 10, I'm already trying to get to 10 body fat by July 12th.

[EPG]

I think you'll, I think you'll get that. You've been looking pretty.

[Santa Cruz]

This is gonna sound stupid as fuck too but it's like you guys saw the clip of Mike Maylek doing like the pineapple thing and it's like bit that bit tough and then it shows his age of 41 and I was just like dude, like I don't want to be that guy.

[Chetty]

Imagine being 41 and beefing with 23 year old Chetty on a prize pick bus.

[Santa Cruz]

No, but I'm like I don't need to go to, I don't want to go to a bar, get wasted and pick a up a chick. Like I want to go see Obsession or a movie with a chick and like do something different.

[EPG]

I saw Obsession with my girl last night.

[Chetty]

So did I.

[EPG]

That's, that's hilarious bro. I haven't been to the movies in forever and my girl's like I kind of want to see this movie.

[Santa Cruz]

When was last me went on a wholesome date and did some that like

[Chetty]

that's what I'm on these days.

[EPG]

I, I do that all the time.

[Jesse]

I took a bird on a heli ride of Toronto and took her to dinner after. Did a private drive.

[EPG]

No more helicopter rides for you Kyle. We're putting that. I know we can't, we can't have you go missing.

[Chetty]

That's about obsession though. I. That had me a little bit tweaked out and I'm alone in this big ass house right now and I don't like it.

[Santa Cruz]

I want to do like a whole series on that. Like testing a chick like not doing like the. Kyle, like let me give you this helicopter tour to the private driver. Like take her on like a cheap ass date.

[Jesse]

I got that tech from you.

[Santa Cruz]

I know. Well of course you're going to learn from me. Obviously you're going to learn from me when it comes to that.

[Jesse]

I had to do it like you

[Santa Cruz]

one time and it probably went. Probably was. Probably was successful. Let me, let me guess.

[Jesse]

Was it successful?

[Santa Cruz]

That's 100 success.

[Jesse]

I skipped the buying or the timepiece.

[EPG]

But steiny then you're gonna be sitting in a Taco Bell with a chicken. You're gonna be like I don't want to be doing this. I don't, I don't want to eat this.

[Santa Cruz]

No. I found this company that does. You get, you get the catering and they do a beach setup, so they put the table on there for you. They bring a server, and you can cater whatever food. So I'm gonna do that.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[EPG]

That's bougie.

[Jesse]

As.

[EPG]

I thought you were saying you're gonna give a chick, like, a alternative experience that you were broke.

[Chetty]

No.

[Jesse]

Okay, so let's hear it. Here's another take. What's the best first date to take a chick on, Chetty?

[Chetty]

Well, dude, my thing lately has been, like, I had to tell the lady. I'm like, dude, we gotta, like, you don't need two hours to get ready before every dinner. We go on, like, let's just go hit Chipotle. Let's go sit outside at Chipper.

[Jesse]

Bring the duck.

[Chetty]

I go in there and order for her. She keeps the dog out front. I get her a little vegetarian bowl, extra queso.

[Santa Cruz]

She's stoked.

[Chetty]

I'm stoked. We're home in 20 minutes. I get quicker. Please talk.

[Jesse]

That clip right now.

[Chetty]

That is the.

[EPG]

That's the most Chetty clip of all time.

[Chetty]

I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get reamed.

[Kyle]

Worst case, you walk away with some gains.

[Chetty]

Like, yeah, I get dump chicken. She gets a.

[Kyle]

If you want to know the best state. Go.

[Jesse]

Jesse's. Jesse's a sauce date guy. Jesse, what's the best?

[Santa Cruz]

Jess, you're an intimate intimacy on the first date.

[Kyle]

A comedy show. And then if the comedy show, like, goes well, then you go for a walk. And if the walk goes well, you grab, like, a bite.

[Jesse]

Is comedy show good, though? What if she's laughing a little too much at the guy's jokes? And it.

[Kyle]

That's fine.

[EPG]

That's good.

[Jesse]

It's fine.

[Kyle]

Are you.

[Chetty]

Are you having stews at the comedy show couple?

[Kyle]

Oh, Honda.

[Jesse]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Yeah. I mean, now, Yeah. I didn't for five years, but, yeah.

[EPG]

I feel like for a first date in today's society, I don't know. I've been out of the game for a while. You got to keep it real light. It's like coffee and a walk type. Like, you gotta suss out these. These. These hoes out there.

[Kyle]

I only had comedy show or something so that you both experience. You don't have to, like, entertain each other right off the bat and be like, what do you do for a living? You gotta, like, go do something fun, then go do that.

[EPG]

How many shows are crack, bro? Just to feel, like, happy. I go to a lot of comedy because you're just there laughing.

[Santa Cruz]

Except for what if you're the guy? What if you're the guy in the audience that just. He just. The comedian just starts roasting. Yeah, you are risking that.

[Kyle]

Dude, I went to an. I went to. It was called Chocolate Sundae, and it was, like, all black. Like, black audience, black everything. And me and a first date are at the front row, and they just roast the. Out of us. Like, call me Vanilla bear and shit. They're like, like, oh, are you guys. Like, are you guys married? Or whatever? And we have to awkwardly be like, no, we just. We don't know each other and we do. Yeah, but it made it fun. It was good.

[EPG]

Yeah, but you got to do your research, pal.

[Kyle]

I know. I don't know how I didn't realize chocolate sundae meant 150.

[EPG]

San Francisco's stupid expensive.

[Kyle]

Kind of like, what. Santa Cruz, you were saying, like, if you don't have a lot of money, like, dude, you can go buy two coffees and go for a walk and get to know someone. Like, if you really want.

[EPG]

25 in here. But, yeah, right.

[Santa Cruz]

Hand some cardio, dude.

[Kyle]

You could make coffees or, like, be. If you're broke, you got to be creative. You gotta, like.

[EPG]

I got a lot of friends that do the surfing dates. You know, I gotta. I got a buddy, Austin, he might be taking out surfing in a week. You know what I mean? He's basically a surf instructor.

[Chetty]

Well, that's sick.

[Jesse]

Anytime a girl's just naturally into what you like to do.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[EPG]

You know, but you don't want to. You want a chick that does some of the stuff you do, but you don't want to date yourself. I know some dudes that, like. They're like, my chick does jiu jitsu. She surfs, she does mountain biking. And then, I don't know about you.

[Santa Cruz]

I don't know jitsu that. Hey, hell, I protect this house. Not.

[EPG]

That's not happening.

[Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[EPG]

No, but I know these dudes.

[Santa Cruz]

Someone breaks in, I'm handling that. My chick's not gonna take him to the ground. Dude.

[Kyle]

I went on a date with a skateboarder once, and it was like. I thought I'd be like, oh, this is cool. It's like, bro, I'm hanging out with, like, one of the boys right now.

[Jesse]

That's what I've. I always wonder that. Yeah, how fine. How fine do you want the line of your girl being into what you're into? Like, do you want to go to the gym with your girl every day? Santa Cruz?

[Chetty]

Do you do that or.

[Jesse]

No?

[EPG]

No, I go. I go once a week, Me and My girl go to the gym on Wednesdays. I help put her through a little leg workout. She's really into health, but it's different shit. So, like, right now she's at Pilates. You know what I mean?

[Santa Cruz]

Do you ever. You guys have each other's locations?

[EPG]

I do, yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

That's kind of beta, but.

[EPG]

No, dude, no. I'm married.

[Chetty]

There's no way I could get away with that. I'm.

[Jesse]

So if you're in a relationship, do you share the location with your girl, or are you not sharing the location?

[Santa Cruz]

Absolutely not. That is an immediate no. You're immediately becoming less of a Alpha in the relationship and giving her too much power. Like, she's got to trust your word. And if she doesn't, she's never going to trust you. Because I'll tell you what the other problem is.

[EPG]

Every.

[Santa Cruz]

It's just gonna add stress to your life because every move you make is going to be watched like a hawk.

[Chetty]

I've never not. I might be getting baited tech, but I'm like, what do I got the. What do I got to hide?

[Santa Cruz]

You've never not shared your location?

[Chetty]

Yeah, what do I got to hide?

[Jesse]

JB's got my location, guys that chipper 62 of the time.

[Chetty]

Well, yeah, I share my location with everyone. I'm playing League of Legends at Chipotle or the bar.

[Jesse]

Dude, come on now. I don't know if I've shared my

[Kyle]

location with anyone ever. I think I just don't like anyone knowing, like, where I'm at. I like freedom, bro.

[Santa Cruz]

I. Yeah, I.

[EPG]

At this point in my life, I have nothing to hide. And I'm. I'm also married. Stan, you're saying if you get married, you're not gonna. No, I shared our locations. It was definitely years into the relationship, but now, dude, it's like a safety thing for me. Like, what if my girl goes missing? I want to assemble, like, a happy

[Santa Cruz]

station is acceptable, but that is not a two way street, I don't think.

[Kyle]

Yeah, but there's a part of me, Santa Cruz, that wishes you had, like, I wish you had an alter life. Like, you were disappearing and being at Crumble Cookie every day.

[EPG]

If I had an alternate life.

[Chetty]

Dude, people legit.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[EPG]

When they're taking, like, a photo with me, though, my girl's been asked, like, does he really live like this? Does he eat Taco Bell? And she's like, no. Like, what the. Like, like. But some people, like, wonder that. But no, I literally have nothing. I'm like, I think it's only when it's my girl can.

[Jesse]

It's one. It's serious.

[EPG]

Like, I'm not. I'm not hitting up. Yeah, you know, hoes. Steiny. I don't know. It sounds like if you're. If you don't want your location shared, then you're probably at locations that you don't want your girl to see.

[Santa Cruz]

No, that's not even true. I don't want to be questioned. Like you said. Why are you buy this spa like, yo, I'm at Trader Joe's like that. Like, yo, I'm just saying, like, they're going to like, question everything you do if you're around. Why are you at this person's house watching the game?

[Kyle]

What about red receipts? Do you guys have that on? Hell or they can see if you. That I don't.

[EPG]

I get way too many text messages. You all fucking probably do. Like, it's like, yeah, but you know what? You know what actually, you know, you know who actually presses me more about my location is my fucking friends. So I have a bunch of friends at my location, and they'll be like, oh, you just got to the house, like, you're telling me you can't make it to the gym in 10 minutes and like, I have to explain more to my fucking friends what's going on than my girlfriend for sure.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah. See, the whole location thing, that's just.

[Kyle]

That's why I don't like it. It's like, I don't want to be questions. Like, bro, I'm no, I want to be questioned.

[Santa Cruz]

I'm where I'm the at. And where I tell you I'm at, that's where I'm at.

[Kyle]

Did any of you guys know or meet Oliver Tree?

[Santa Cruz]

Oh, that's terrible.

[EPG]

No, but I slapped his music forever, and it's actually frustrating. I posted some rip shits, you know, like his music and people like, you know, new gens are like, you, you now you're posting it today. Luckily, I have people in my comments being like, bro, he's used his music for eight years in his videos.

[Santa Cruz]

You know, I did not know how big, how popular his music was. I went and looked at his Spotify. It's like he's like five tracks with

[Chetty]

over 100 million was so good. Just so hitter. Just.

[EPG]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Even outside of music, he was just like a creative. Like, he didn't scratch the surface what he was gonna do. He didn't have to just sit at home and like, live with his money. And like, he always traveled. Always. Dude, One thing I noticed when I open my phone is the amount of people that posted different things with him that I'm like, damn, this guy. Like, it was almost inspiring to be like, I need to do more things or, like, meet more people or say yes to more. He said yes to everything. Like, he's like a true, like, rambling man. Like, backpack, say yes. Go work with whoever.

[EPG]

Like, bro, you can make people's day filming a video with them, which is a crazy position that we're all in. And just like, I think it's good like at least once a week to do that. Like, whatever it is, bro, there's some kids that took a photo of me and they're doing a little food review at this place, man. I'm like, oh, let me get in your food review. I'll like, do. You know, they were so stoked. It's like, whatever. Like, that is always a good way to give back. Kind of goes back to what you were saying, Kyle, and that TMZ thing. You're like, bro, I'd rather just do for people in like, the private sector. Like, you can and you do. And that does kind of provide more real value in a way of like, oh, if I can like, help somebody here, like, whatever it is, it's kind of more tangible than like, oh, I made a political change and it got reversed four years later. All right?

[Kyle]

You make a bigger difference doing what we're doing, you know, or like what you guys do. Like, literally just building an audience and like having a message and doing our. Creating things that will change people's opinions about the way they live is, like, probably more impactful than like being voted into this thing that has a system that's gonna tell you what you're gonna

[EPG]

do, you know, Elon Musk is going to create more change in the world than many politicians put together have, you know, he's going to give Internet to the entire world. High speed Internet. That's going to be a thing that's

[Santa Cruz]

a trillionaire now, right?

[EPG]

That's insane.

[Santa Cruz]

What the. Dude, that's so.

[EPG]

I mean, he isn't. He isn't.

[Santa Cruz]

You know, that's one day. You got one day. You gotta just see how much you can spend in a day at that point. Like, see if you see if you can spend.

[EPG]

But he'd have to sell a bunch of stock. You'd have to sell a bunch of stocks and that, like, decreases the stock price.

[Jesse]

I invested in SpaceX. That shit's up.

[EPG]

Yeah, yeah, that seems like a good one.

[Kyle]

Like insider There someone like Elon Musk doesn't even think like that. Like, I think he's literally thinking of it as, like, tokens. I have. I have more tokens to go, actually. Make, like, imagine you could wake up every day and. And be like, my project's like, I'm gonna fix this issue. Like, yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

No, he's very passionate about his.

[Kyle]

And I understand the hate. I think it's anyone who's just like, we're in a. We're in a weird state right now.

[Santa Cruz]

We're probably the most person of all time.

[EPG]

Yeah. I mean, people are just pissed because of, like. I mean, you have this coveted generation now. A lot of these kids that live through Covid, you know, are now, like, turning, like, 18, 19, 20 years old. And it's tough out there, dude. Like, they're like, all right, how am I gonna afford a house? How am I gonna make money? The AI. It's brutal. Again, I get where all that's coming from, all the criticism and. But, like, it should come from a place of all right United States dope. It's a good place. A little up. Let me try to figure out how to make it not, like, let me try to burn this down.

[Kyle]

Like, yeah, let me sit around all day and complain on the Internet isn't gonna fix your. Like, dude, we've always had problems. We've always. It's always gone up and down. Like, you got to get creative and, like, find a way to make money and hustle, like, everyone does.

[EPG]

I've been there, bro. When I was 18, I was, like, super into conspiracies, and I was like, the world is. I moved to Costa Rica and, like, was trying to, like. Like, I don't even know what the. I was doing, bro. I believed that, like, peak oil was gonna hit and everything was a conspiracy. And then at some point, I just clutched up, and I was like, all right, this life is kind of a game. There's a lot of up out there. Let me try to do something good, make some money and live a good life. And it worked. And people should do that. Like, yeah, it's a game.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

Everything's always gonna be negative until you make a change. Once you make a change and you just put that behind you, then you can actually do something. Yeah.

[Kyle]

I feel more bad for the guy where, like, the mid-20s guy that's. Or girl that's working multiple jobs, taking care of their family, just trying to get out of the. And they're just grinding, and it's like, maybe some systems and that are in place are just them. Like, whether it was like, Covid lost your job or lost your business or like, it's like there's things that are actually like, yeah, this is up. Like, anyone working hard should have a break. But like, I have no sympathy for anyone who's broke. But like, not just complaining.

[Santa Cruz]

It's like I have no sympathy for these chicks. And I don't know if it's just la, but like, you never hear about the quality in the workplace, like anymore. Because none of them are in the workplace. It seems like around me or here. Getting kind of tired of that.

[Chetty]

I'm rocking Hollywood.

[Jesse]

You haven't heard about the. Haven't heard about workplace conditions anymore much?

[Santa Cruz]

No, dude, because these chicks are worried about the UV. Oh, it's a UV9. It's a great day. Like, what the dude gotta pay rent? Most of these chicks, I guarantee, don't know how to pay bills, bro.

[Jesse]

Yo, that is true. The chicks that are complaining about the UV index, that's all they care about.

[Santa Cruz]

What's the UV today? It's a UV10. And my music, that's all I need. Get a job. Those chicks just shake ass.

[EPG]

I'm sorry.

[Santa Cruz]

That's true, bro.

[Jesse]

It's like, if it's sunny out, just get a tan. You don't have to look at the UV index.

[Kyle]

I might have to hop off soon, boys. I gotta call.

[Jesse]

Yeah, I gotta bounce too.

[Kyle]

I pushed a bit, but.

[Jesse]

All right, fellas. All right, boys.

[Chetty]

Good.

[Santa Cruz]

Maybe for next week we should have some sort of goal set so people can like buy into it.

[Jesse]

Well, mine's 10 by July 12th.

[Santa Cruz]

Well, we should. Let's all have.

[Jesse]

You guys want to extend it if you guys want to choose a date.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, we got it. Definitely for us.

[Jesse]

Like, you're saying a workout related thing, right?

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, like, but mine would have to be probably in August or September.

[Jesse]

I'm down to keep.

[Chetty]

I think I'm going running mode, boys. Less weights.

[EPG]

I think that's.

[Santa Cruz]

This is. I'll tell you this. This is the most locked in I've ever.

[Jesse]

I'm down to keep it going too, because I. I love having this. A goal. The second I lose a goal, I'm.

[Chetty]

Yeah, I need one.

[Jesse]

And the second I lose my deadline, I'm screwed.

[Kyle]

Make it a competition. So we make it hard for everyone.

[Santa Cruz]

I'm down and full, full transparency on any. Full transparency on any substances that are used that has to be there. Yeah, on peptides, steroids, peptides. Like, we have to. Because that is a huge factor. I know some people like that.

[Jesse]

I don't think anyone. I don't think anyone's on roids.

[Santa Cruz]

No.

[EPG]

All right.

[Kyle]

I'm on magic. Mine.

[Jesse]

Yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

I'll probably be on testosterone.

[Kyle]

All right.

[Santa Cruz]

See you guys.

[Jesse]

All right.

[Kyle]

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[Chetty]

It's our movement, okay? It's ours. We built it.

[Jesse]

Hard truths.

[Chetty]

There are a bunch of people out there pulling you into an information vortex, dumping the dead pig in the well, hoping you jump in. Don't jump in the well. It's a trap. Find a way out immediately. This is the nothing is happening trap. And it is an inverted sense of reality. If we don't correct it and your kids believe it, I'm sorry. This show's for nothing.

[Kyle]

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[Chetty]

There's only one choice, man.

[Jesse]

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