Nelk Boys Talk Drake’s New Album and Joe Rogan at the White House!

Summary

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Episode: Nelk Boys Talk Drake’s New Album and Joe Rogan at the White House!

Date: April 23, 2026
Hosts/Guests: Kyle, Steiny, Santa Cruz, and recurring unknown guests
Sponsors/Ads: Skipped per instructions

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Episode Overview

This episode is classic Full Send energy: lighthearted banter, unfiltered takes, plenty of pop-culture references, and a heavy influence from MMA, mainstream music, and social commentary. The main themes include:

• The hype and marketing behind Drake’s new album and why he’s perpetually at the culture’s center.
• Deep dive into the current MMA landscape, with insider stories and predictions on Sugar Sean O’Malley’s White House fight, Topuria, Arman, and more.
• A candid discussion on Joe Rogan’s contentious White House visit with Trump around psychedelic treatments and the ensuing political backlash.
• Toxic social media, conspiracies in politics, and reflections on America’s ever-shifting culture and problems.
• Unfiltered opinions on everything from OnlyFans/TV nudity trends to the future of raw milk and vaping in the US.

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Segments

I. Catching Up and Banter (02:03–05:00)

• Guest banter on Steiny’s “timepiece” clothing and absent co-host Freezer, poking fun at each other's side hustles and excuses.
• Santa Cruz shares about training with Sugar Sean O’Malley in Arizona, mixing it up in jiu-jitsu and playing pickleball with MMA legends.
  • “Got my ass, bro. I trained with Tim Welch, his coach, and, well, dude, I was like, worried… But we just basically did jiu jitsu with Tim Welch and these other black belts there and just got worked, but, you know, not in a bad way.” — Santa Cruz [04:07]

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II. MMA Talk & Predictions (04:58–15:42)

• Sugar Sean’s White House Fight

  • Santa Cruz describes the scene of hard ongoing fight camps and Sean’s mentality (“I want to remind people what the fuck is up” [05:08]).
  • High-stakes match against Firas Zahabi’s brother—major anticipation in the community.
  • “You kinda forget that Sugar Sean is fighting on the White House card.” — Kyle [04:58]

• UFC Culture & Personality

  • Difficulties of being close with fighters, objectivity in fight analysis, and the business of promoting the sport.
  • “I’ve met probably almost every fighter now, too… it’s tough to say how you actually feel knowing, oh, I’m gonna run into these guys.” — Kyle [07:07]

• Insider Story: Arman visits Steiny's, stories of gambling and flexing $200k in cash, hustling in backgammon, and feuds with Ryan Garcia.

• Arman/Ilya/Topuria Debates

  • Ongoing verbal and social warfare between fighters and what truly motivates them, especially when money isn’t the motivator.
  • “You know, they say like, it’s hard to grind when you wake up in satin sheets… but Armin does that.” — Santa Cruz [13:32]
  • “In the lightweight division, there’s no argument. There’s no bigger contender than Arman.” — Kyle [13:30]

• Speculation: Potential huge fights—Arman vs Ilya, Islam vs Ilya, and possible career trajectories for the next GOAT.

  • “If he beats Gaethje and then Arman, I think they line up the Islam fight after that and if he wins that, that’s goat talk.” — Kyle [19:41]

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III. Drake’s Album: Genius Marketing & Cultural Impact (21:09–28:35)

• Breakdown of Drake’s Viral Album Release Tactics

  • In-depth discussion on the “ice melts” campaign, leveraging user-generated hype in Toronto, and driving virality via clever social engineering.
  • “He knows too that the way people are winning now is by user-generated content… people are marketing the album for him.” — Kyle [22:36]
  • “You don’t see any other rappers or artists put in much effort at all into their album releases. And this was like a two-year thing…” — Steiny [21:47]

• Over-analysis & Conspiracy Theories Around Drake

  • From DJ Akademiks’ wild Packers/ice bowl theories to rumors about Drake’s subtle disses.
  • “It’s really funny how deep dive people go into this.” — Steiny [24:36]

• Drake’s Relevance

  • Cited as a master of tapping into and driving culture, compared to figures like Elon Musk: “The biggest people are the most tapped in, I think, and they're seeing the same shit that we're seeing. That’s my opinion. I mean, Drake, you know, he’s tapped in.” — Kyle [26:12]

• Predictions for the new album: Anticipation about quality, potential disses, and fan speculation.

  • “I think it’s gonna be one of his best albums in the last few…” — Kyle [27:40]

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IV. Joe Rogan, the White House, and Political Commentary (30:13–36:30)

• Joe Rogan’s White House Appearance

  • Rogan attends because of Trump’s work endorsing ibogaine for opioid addiction.
  • Hosts criticize the trend of attacking people just for being seen around Trump.
  • “People want America to do bad when Trump is running it. That’s what I really disagree with, bro… Can we celebrate a little win here?” — Santa Cruz [30:49]

• Broader Themes

  • Exhaustion with political toxicity, double standards, and media manipulation.
  • “Politics is just—it’s a no win. Whoever wins is going to be… we’re controlled by the elite.” — Kyle [32:47]

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V. American Culture, Corruption, and Social Decay (41:14–45:52)

• Corrupt Charities & Fake Rehab Centers

  • Santa Cruz details personal viral video helping a fentanyl addict and how systemic failures make real help impossible because of bureaucracy and “fake” charities.
  • “It’s just like the people that run those drug rehab centers make all the money out. Oh, this lady works there. She makes 300k a year, and there’s six people that go in there a month.” — Santa Cruz [43:43]

• Wider Reflections

  • The US isn’t uniquely evil; all governments have darkness—“The US Is just the smartest to play the game.” — Kyle [41:14]
  • Hosts crave less war/more inward spending: “I want less war. I want more money spent in the US…” — Santa Cruz [41:48]
  • “I think as long as there’s money, there’s gonna be corruption, there’s gonna be evil.” — Kyle [45:05]

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VI. Culture Critique: OnlyFans, Euphoria, “Degeneracy” (46:00–54:44)

• Euphoria’s Extreme Scenes

  • Dissection of the latest “OnlyFans-like” episode, Sydney Sweeney’s nudity, baby/diaper scene, and whether TV is normalizing, exposing, or exploiting sexual fetishes.
  • “There’s no reason to put that in. You wanna show Sydney Sweeney’s tits? Put her in a lifeguard outfit.” — Santa Cruz [47:40]
  • “I'm just like, yo, this is just not even… it's just degenerate.” — Steiny [46:11]

• Real vs. Fake Morals in Pop & Podcast Fame

  • “Half the people that you guys agree with don't believe in anything they're saying. They're just sheep and want you to still love them.” — Steiny [35:54]

• Relationship Lines

  • Candid exchange: would they be cool with their girlfriend/partner doing sex scenes?
  • “If your girl was an actress and she had to do a sex scene, would you be chill with it or no?” — Kyle [55:39]
  • “Nah, that's, that's a square up right now.” — Steiny [56:04]

• OnlyFans, Adam22, Lena The Plug

  • Discussion of couples’ dynamics in the industry and whether it’s all just a “marketing angle.”

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VII. Freedom, Vice, and American Policy (50:16–54:44)

• Vices: Tobacco, Raw Milk, Vaping

  • Split opinions on banning cigarettes; lamentation over misplaced priorities (banning raw milk, not solving homelessness or the opioid epidemic).
  • “Bro, people die from sushi every year… let's put a little sticker on it that says this food can cause foodborne illness. Done.” — Santa Cruz [52:19]
  • “How’s this homeless problem this serious? You go to Florida… I haven't seen one Fentanyl lean in Miami…” — Steiny [52:41]

• Funny, Classic Full Send Riffs:

  • “Don’t be a guy in your 20s that freaks out when you lose your vape… you’re a loser, bro. If you're 24…” — Steiny [53:48]

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VIII. Sex, Primality, and Test Levels (60:16–62:57)

• Bizarre/Funny Closing Segment
  • Hosts debate “primal” sex positions (doggy, standing, props).
  • Urban legend: does “nutting in girls” raise testosterone?
    • “There’s a lot of things that temporarily increase your test… but they don’t actually increase long-term.” — Santa Cruz [62:05]

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IX. Final Banter: Golf, Life Improvement, and Health (66:29–69:25)

• Pesticides in Golf Courses
  • Santa Cruz warns about health risks for golfers near treated grass: “There’s 124% increase in Parkinson’s for people that live within a mile of a golf course” — [68:27]
  • General life talk: building your ideal daily routine, keeping “dream life” alive.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “He knows too that the way people are winning now is by user generated content… people are marketing the album for him.” — Kyle [22:36]
• “You know, they say like, it’s hard to grind when you wake up in satin sheets… but Armin does that.” — Santa Cruz [13:32]
• “People want America to do bad when Trump is running it. That’s what I really disagree with, bro… Can we celebrate a little win here?” — Santa Cruz [30:49]
• “There’s no reason to put that in. You wanna show Sydney Sweeney’s tits? Put her in a lifeguard outfit.” — Santa Cruz [47:40]
• "I think as long as there’s money, there’s gonna be corruption, there’s gonna be evil." — Kyle [45:05]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 02:03 — Show opens, banter about absences, MMA training stories
• 04:58 — Sugar Sean at the White House, pickleball, MMA predictions
• 13:32 — “Grinding in satin sheets”: fighter motivation and money
• 19:41 — Next GOAT? Theoretical paths for Topuria
• 21:09 — Drake’s album marketing, cultural influence, viral strategies
• 30:13 — Joe Rogan, Trump, ibogaine, and polarized politics
• 41:14 — American corruption, fake charities, and government critique
• 46:00 — Euphoria, OnlyFans, and the line between art and exploitation
• 50:16 — Tobacco and freedoms, American vice policy debates
• 60:16 — Sex, “primal” behavior, and testosterone myths
• 66:29 — Golf, golf course health, and wrapping up

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Tone & Style

• Very conversational, irreverent, edgy, and often veering into NSFW banter.
• Plenty of inside references, candid opinions, poking fun at each other.
• Mixes genuine insight with unserious humor, meme culture, and hot takes.

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Summary

This episode weaves the Nelk Boys’ signature locker-room banter into surprisingly insightful conversations on MMA, music, and the American cultural landscape. Listeners get both juicy behind-the-scenes stories (from UFC gym transfers to inside jokes about cash flexes and OnlyFans) and genuine mindshare on real issues (addiction, corruption, freedom, politics, and the influence of social media.) There’s a meta-awareness to the show’s appeal—much like Drake’s ice-melting campaign, the Nelk Boys understand how to create viral moments, react to culture, and remain unfiltered. If you’re looking for sports, pop-culture, and no-holds-barred guy talk, this is Full Send at its best.

Transcript

[Kyle]

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[Steiny]

A little warmer.

[Kyle]

Is there a deal with timepiece like you only wear timepiece trading?

[Santa Cruz]

I don't do I really.

[Unknown Guest]

You do really like you're.

[Kyle]

You're wearing a timepiece shirt and you said, yo, I'm going to go put on a Hoodie? No, you throw on a timepiece sweater.

[Steiny]

Just sent me a huge.

[Kyle]

I have nothing against timepiece. All my watches besides the Drake watcher from timepiece, so. But I'm just curious.

[Unknown Guest]

He's taking side deals.

[Steiny]

Please, dude, that's beneath me.

[Kyle]

He's been doing that since day one. That's an easy play. No freezer this week.

[Steiny]

What the hell does he have going on?

[Kyle]

He typed in our chat and he said, yo, guys, I can't make the pod tomorrow because he lost to a hater in golf.

[Unknown Guest]

What does that have to do with anything?

[Kyle]

Dod's thing is he. He plays haters in videos, right?

[Steiny]

No, no, I understand the concept, but why? What does that have to do with today?

[Kyle]

I guess, I mean, Freezer, when he, like, loses, he probably got absolutely obliterated last night. Like, tanked.

[Steiny]

Yeah, that's.

[Kyle]

Well, I guess. I guess DOD plays haters all the time, but DOD found a. A freezer hater. I feel like the difference between, like, a DOD hater and someone that, like, if you hate freezer tarps, you probably really, like, hate him. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Steiny]

Yeah, 100%.

[Kyle]

What did you guys get up to this week? Santa Cruz. I saw you were training with Sugar Sean.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, I was out in Arizona. Popped into Sugar Sean's gym. Trained with Tim Welch, played pickleball with the boys. It's a super dope spot. They have, like, this crazy gym, all these MMA fighters there and then directly connected to it. It's like the pickleball Dojo, they call it. There's just a bunch of pickleball courts, ping pong and what.

[Kyle]

So what'd you guys do for training? Did you get your ass whooped or. No?

[Santa Cruz]

Got my ass, bro. I trained with Tim Welch, his coach, and, well, dude, I was, like, worried because he was like, yeah, like mma sparrings at 10:30, I'm like, Bro, like, I'm. I don't do, like, striking like. Like, I'm like. Like, I don't know what he expects, but we rolled up there. I'm like, we'll see what happens. But we just basically did jiu jitsu with Tim Welch and these other black belts there and just got worked, but, you know, not in a bad way.

[Unknown Guest]

You do any of the, like, striking, bro?

[Santa Cruz]

No. There were dudes in the cage while we were doing jiu jitsu, like, full on fist fighting. And, you know, all them have, like, fights May 2nd. Like, that was.

[Unknown Guest]

They'll go easy on you. Like, they'll fall, they'll like, match your energy, probably.

[Santa Cruz]

No. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Did you.

[Kyle]

Did you work with Sugar at all?

[Santa Cruz]

No. He's, like, in fight camp, he needs every. It's like, all scheduled out, super dialed in. I don't think he's trying to train my dumb ass, you know, while he's, like, in camp. In camp, but we played pickleball.

[Kyle]

How is their pickleball game? Are they nasty?

[Santa Cruz]

They're nasty. He had Joe Riggs on his team, who's a legend in the sport of mma, but he's older, retired, and so it was me and Tim Welch first, Sean and Joe Riggs. And so we were just targeting Riggs and we won. But Sugar Sean's nasty at pickleball.

[Kyle]

Yeah, you kind of forget that. Sugar Sean is fighting on the White House card.

[Unknown Guest]

I know, bro.

[Santa Cruz]

It's crazy, dude. Like, on the White House. That shit's coming up.

[Unknown Guest]

Is it June?

[Santa Cruz]

It is. And he's fighting? Yeah, he's fighting for Usahabi's brother, Frost. Hobby's like this legendary coach. He was like GSP's coach. I want, like, just legendary. And that's going to be an amazing fight. And Sean was saying to us, like, we interviewed him and he's like, he's like, I want to get like one of those Sugar show wins, bro. Like, I want to remind people, like, what the is up. And you look at his record, bro, it's insane. And it's like, sure, Marab. Those fights are kind of not the best, like, stylistic matchup. But everything else, bro, is.

[Steiny]

He's what, 15 and 2. 16 and 2. Yeah, yeah, it's.

[Kyle]

How's the hobbies?

[Santa Cruz]

Hobby's good, man. So it's a hobby, like, for Usabi is one of the most legendary, like, grapplers and jiu jitsu artists and so, like. But I don't know, man. I do think, like, Suge could get this win and then they'll make Marab Pyotr Yan probably, and then we'll see how maybe, like, they make that fight again, but they could do Suge vs Pyotr Yan for the best.

[Steiny]

Should be happening at the White House.

[Santa Cruz]

That should have happened.

[Kyle]

They're gonna do that.

[Santa Cruz]

Well, I mean, Suge's gonna hopefully knock out Zobi at the White House.

[Steiny]

He was. Neon was streaming with the hobby yesterday in Canada. That guy's Canadian.

[Kyle]

I was supposed to link with them when I went to Montreal too, but I just to meet them. But I was only there for like a few hours for my green card. But also Sugar's my boy, too. So I gotta support the Canadian mma. But Suga's probably, like, you know, my closest friend in mma, like, someone I would actually consider a friend, too. So it's like, that's all you got. Sticky one night.

[Steiny]

That's all you got.

[Santa Cruz]

He's super chill. It's weird, bro. I just. I just started filming with, you know, more UFC fighters, and. And it does get, like, weird. I'm like, oh, like, like, like, Cheeto Vera is dope, right? Jesse, you've kicked with Cheeto. And I'm like, like, I'm rocking a Sugar Sean. Sure. You know, and, like. But I don't. I don't think a lot of those guys view it like that. I think they're. No, they view it like, bro, we're trying to promote the sport, get more people into the sport, which makes them all more money. So.

[Kyle]

I know because I've met probably almost every fighter now, too. So sometimes it's tough to say how you actually feel about what you think is going to happen in a fight, knowing, oh, I'm gonna run into these guys.

[Steiny]

Yeah, that's. That's just.

[Santa Cruz]

It is wild.

[Unknown Guest]

Should we talk some?

[Steiny]

No. I had Armand here at my house. He was here this weekend.

[Kyle]

How is that?

[Steiny]

He just talks so much all the time. He's like, yo, let's go play tennis. Let's go play Padel. Let's play backgammon for money. And I know this chick who's, like, super hot, and she plays backgammon, and she's really good. And so I brought him back here, and I was like, yeah, I don't even really want to play.

[Santa Cruz]

I'll.

[Steiny]

She'll play you. So we hustled him for 5k. He paid, and then he, like, tilted and walks in with 200k cash and, like, just slams it on the kitchen counter. And I was like, dude, I'm not playing you for that. And he's like, you don't even have this here. You don't have this here. And so I just went and grabbed. I have a Conor McGregor rookie card. And I was like, this is worth probably, like, 30. And then I grabbed, just random, and he just freaked out. He's the funniest guy of all time. And while he was playing, Armand's Armon's

[Kyle]

walking around with 200k cash.

[Steiny]

Yeah, he brought it in my house and slanted on my thing, and I was like. Because him and Ryan Garcia have a whole feud about how he beat Ryan out for something, and Ryan didn't pay him for 40k. And he just kept talking to me, talking to me about that. I was like, dude, I'll pay.

[Unknown Guest]

Whatever that was. That like there was like boxing, but body shots only or some.

[Steiny]

I don't know.

[Unknown Guest]

I thought I saw something they like in like some guy's living room.

[Steiny]

They were like, yeah, that something like,

[Unknown Guest]

how do you even pick a winner?

[Steiny]

I was a little like, I had a few drinks, so I was like acting like a dumbass. And I had her playing arm on, and I would sit behind her and I'd play the clip on repeat of Dana saying, like, I'm not very happy with Armand right now in the ufc. And just kept like trolling him. And he got pretty heated. So he left a little pissed. I don't know for some points, but it was pretty funny. He paid, so it was good. Yeah, that was the night he came over.

[Unknown Guest]

Damn, you guys kind of look alike, huh?

[Steiny]

Nah, he was on me.

[Kyle]

He's.

[Steiny]

He's the coolest guy ever, though.

[Unknown Guest]

Same body style.

[Kyle]

He definitely robbed one of any bird you were trying to wheel too. He probably left that out. That chick you. That chick you invited over to hustle him. Yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

I don't know.

[Steiny]

I don't know. She. She wasn't with me, I'll tell you that.

[Santa Cruz]

You see, he got kicked off a flight. Armin and his crew went on like a. An American Airlines flight or something, and they ended up getting kicked off. I don't know if you guys saw that.

[Steiny]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Kyle]

I saw.

[Steiny]

That's like his dream.

[Unknown Guest]

Why?

[Steiny]

Did they get the jet ready? Yeah, yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

Then he. He's like on a private jet with like the lie down couches and. And he's like, all right, I'll take this. I don't know, man. I kind of feel what he sounds like.

[Unknown Guest]

That was like a marketing angle.

[Santa Cruz]

Sometimes you get on like, they just

[Unknown Guest]

wanted this shot to like, then cut to legit.

[Steiny]

No, he's. He's really about his content, I'll tell you that. Like that guy right there who's.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah. Has the camera, that's best friend is that pooch.

[Steiny]

And he films everything with the little camera that, you know, the camera is not where you walk around and it looks like it's just a little tripod. They bring that everywhere.

[Santa Cruz]

I think they got on the flight. And some people are just like rude to them. You know, sometimes, like whatever flight attendant or someone will just be kind of rude. And I just think those dudes don't play that. And they know that they can get off and be on a private jet. So, yeah, this is what it is.

[Kyle]

Did you guys see Ilya? Ilya did a. Oh, yeah, an interview with Ariel Hawani. I watched the whole thing. It was. It was dope.

[Steiny]

I back Ilya on that. He's right, dude.

[Kyle]

What did he say?

[Steiny]

He talked a lot of. He's just like, this guy's. So.

[Kyle]

He said like 30 different things.

[Steiny]

No, he was like, yeah, well, dude, it's your daddy's money. Quit flexing it. Like, a lot of that. You act like, immature.

[Kyle]

You're saying that about Arman?

[Steiny]

Why?

[Kyle]

Even though he was just at your house?

[Steiny]

Yeah, I agree with the flex. That was not his personal 200k. I don't think he's a.

[Unknown Guest]

He's dumb as. Everything I saw about on the Internet is embarrassing. You agree with that?

[Kyle]

Jesus.

[Steiny]

No, not that part. Just that you're. You're not even rich. You're spending your father's money. That segment I agree with.

[Kyle]

I mean, you and Armand are kind of similar, though. No, like, no money thing.

[Steiny]

No, I don't get that. I don't flex that. And he can run away and do whatever he has to do. I have to show up and work. I actually was. I would say this to his face. Like, I love Arman, but I do think he kind of is missing that like, killer mentality like Tempora has that.

[Santa Cruz]

I don't, I. I don't think I

[Steiny]

disagree with you, and I think you're wrong. Santa Cruz, I'm going to cut you off. Because he's waiting for something he's not. He doesn't necessarily deserve. Like, he hasn't even really fought that many times in the UFC to be. To fight Toria Toporia's knocked out Volk Oliveira and Max Holloway. Like, that resume alone is like goated. That's a goat status. Resume of knockouts like that.

[Unknown Guest]

What the fuck?

[Santa Cruz]

It is.

[Steiny]

And I'm only saying that too, because I'm in a Toporia edit for saying that. And I'm really stoked. I'm going to send it to you guys actually right now.

[Kyle]

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[Santa Cruz]

The fact that he does have all this money and still does this is crazy because most professional fighters are fighting to make like that is a weird thing. It is unique, bro. He wait. You know, they say like, it's hard to grind when you wake up in satin sheets. Like, so that's why fighters, when they start to make a bunch of money, oftentimes fall off. Because like, bro, you don't want to wake up and go do 6am conditioning, 9am grappling, 3pm striking and all that in heat. Armin does that. Like, you know, I think like there's a social media side and he goes and like has fun and gambles away his money. The steiny. But he does appear to like go back and do like extremely hard training.

[Steiny]

I thought about that a lot too. And it is. There is a sense of every fighter in the UFC you can think of is fighting out of pure hunger and desire and need for money.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, McGregor was a plumber in Ireland

[Steiny]

and he was like, he had a HBO series. It's the sickest thing when he's in the ghettos in Ireland. But every, every fighter like Elias Ilya's

[Kyle]

got one coming out, too.

[Steiny]

Yeah, his is going to be to watch.

[Kyle]

I wonder if it covers, like, any of the, like, relationship stuff that he obviously went through. I wonder, like, how raw and it is.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah. To have all that money like Armin and still just grind is weird. It's different. It is. It's like, yeah, why didn't you just, like, whatever, start a business and just kind of chill like? He's like, no, I want to fight the hardest dudes on the planet. It's kind of crazy. So there must be some dog in arming that's just like, well, he's a beast.

[Kyle]

Yeah, he's a beast.

[Steiny]

His can, his conditioning, everything. He's strong as.

[Kyle]

It's true. Ariel Hawani said too, like, he asked him kind of about Justin Gaethje. He asked him about Islam, and Ilya's responses were kind of not too emotional. But when he asks him about Arman, Ilya starts going off. So they kind of said on the panel, too, like, I feel like the Armand Ilia fight is potentially bigger than the Islam Ilia fight. I. I don't know if it's bigger because I think Islam is such an international superstar, but I feel like, personally, me as a fan, I'm down to see the Armand fight just as much as the Islam fight, I think.

[Steiny]

Well, dude, well, you just explained it. There's tension between temporary and Armand. There's not really that tension there.

[Kyle]

Exactly.

[Steiny]

That's. That's what people. That's what the UFC's lacking a little bit.

[Kyle]

Ilya says some crazy about Islam, though, too. Like, saying you're going to bring him in front of Khabib and submit him is like, that's what makes Ilia such an entertaining, like, Persona, I think, too. Like, he says shit that no one else is saying.

[Steiny]

That's cool. But I kind of like that you're

[Unknown Guest]

a

[Steiny]

type shit talk as well. I think that makes it funnier.

[Kyle]

He said Patty the Baddy would have to die and be born again to, like, have a chance of, like, being champion, which is like, Ilia just says some cold.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, he does. Strickland Hamzat is gonna be a lot of talking, dude. Like, that's in two weeks.

[Kyle]

I'm gonna try to get Strickland on next week for us.

[Unknown Guest]

What do you think happens to. To Poirier if, like, he gets one really bad loss?

[Kyle]

It's on the way. You lose too. You're saying if he gets knocked out.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, like, because he's not a huge. So he's Huge. But, like. And he's. But it's because of talent. I wonder if it's like, one of those, like. Like, he reminds me kind of Izzy. Like, it's like, unstoppable, but then also, like, massive fan base. And then, like, once he goes on the losing streak, it, like, really hurts him. Like, the. And I don't think it's gonna happen to him. He's so talented. But, like, let's just say something insane happens. Like, Gaichi knocks him out, and then he. Then he goes against Armin and he loses. Like, does he, like, have, like, a massive fall off? Because it was all leveraged on, like, his talent and, like, unbeatable, that.

[Santa Cruz]

That would cause a massive fall off. People would just say, oh, like, all the personal issues took their toll, and Ilya was never the same. I think in MMA fans, we, like, we all have, like, a very short memory, you know, like you were saying with Izzy, bro, Izzy ran through the division. They literally brought in Alex Pereira because Izzy, at one point, he was like, who do we give this guy next? There's no. Let's bring in somebody from a obscure striking organization that beat him in the past.

[Unknown Guest]

Dude. There was a time try to find someone that hated Izzy. Like, remember when he was on top? Like, I didn't know what. He was everyone's favorite fighter that I would talk to, too. And it's like, it happened. You know what it is? UFC is so shit shifts so quick, and then all of a sudden, the person that everyone loves and is, like, on top becomes like, besides, like, I don't think anyone's. I mean, obvious. Such an obvious statement, but, like, Conor McGregor is like, no one's had the full package that, like, with the plot, the just, like, made him, like, such a. Because, like, you. I look at, like, Toporia, and I'm like, like, how much of Conor McGregor is, like, him in those, like, conferences and what he would say and all that. Like, if anything, like, Strickland's been the closest I've seen to, like, kind of having both.

[Santa Cruz]

But, yeah, his talking is really.

[Unknown Guest]

Dude, I think he is gonna do nothing.

[Santa Cruz]

Ilya. If Ilya knocks out Gaichi, If Ilya knocks out Gaichi in a huge way, and then he starts, you know, doing what he's doing, talking mad about Armin, that fight gets made. It's the. One of the biggest fights ever. And then let's say. Let's say Ilia beats Armin. I think we do see one of the biggest stars ever in sports history. And you're Right. That it won't be McGregor esque where

[Unknown Guest]

McGregor, it's like entertaining to the casuals, you know, I mean it will be,

[Santa Cruz]

but he'll have to do more in the cage than McGregor because Ilya does have more of that respect. Obviously not kind of towards Armin but like he, he's not gonna just. Conor McGregor just talks about everybody in front of him like he doesn't give a. But Ilia could potentially do more in the cage and have a bit more of that skill. So we'll. We'll see. But those two wins right there.

[Kyle]

I think Ellie is gonna potential to be. Yeah. The next Conor McGregor for sure. But yeah, I mean it's all about your fights. If he beats Gaii and then he beats Arman, I think they line up the Islam fight after that and then if he wins that, that's like. That's goat talk, bro.

[Santa Cruz]

Yep. Go talk for sure.

[Unknown Guest]

Go, go, go.

[Kyle]

Like better than Jon Jones talk potentially.

[Santa Cruz]

Or there could be like a war. Ilia and Armin could have a war and then they could run it back. You know, you could even see those build up fighters a lot sometimes those little trilogies and like the peak of their combat career. I mean there was like. Yeah, that could really build.

[Kyle]

Ilia moved to Miami.

[Santa Cruz]

He's doing his training camp out there.

[Kyle]

He said he's living here now for the next like three years. Might have to run back a stream sty.

[Steiny]

Let's do it.

[Unknown Guest]

Doesn't he own like a mansion in like Spain or some?

[Kyle]

He did, yeah. When we went there, he had a. He had a fat crib.

[Steiny]

What's that gay thing you guys said? The. Not proud of it.

[Santa Cruz]

Not proud of it, man. I have to say it. That's a Big John.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Steiny]

So I watched Iceman stream or that kid, the Toronto kid. Did you guys.

[Kyle]

Why are you hating on Big. You're. Are you hating on Big John just because he caught the Drake follow before you?

[Steiny]

No. I don't know. I'm not hanging on Big John. He's a hustler, but I don't. I've seen Santa Cruz do that.

[Santa Cruz]

Dude, I did it with Big John. Not. You know, I'm not proud of it, man enough to say.

[Steiny]

I'll just say it. I was watching the updates like on. On X. They were really keeping up the updates with the Iceman. Drake's like statue and I guess the release date for his album. It was pretty cool marketing, I'm not going to lie.

[Santa Cruz]

Very cool marketing.

[Kyle]

The guy never misses, bro. That guy, he's a fucking marketing genius, bro.

[Unknown Guest]

Fails the ice melts and then he finds the date.

[Steiny]

Yeah. So as an artist myself, and as him being an artist, I'm a little pissed that he doesn't see the art that I put into all my.

[Unknown Guest]

Wait, wait, back up. What'd you say?

[Santa Cruz]

What art? What?

[Steiny]

Just like the creation, like he's very smart and you know. But the other thing, you don't see any of these.

[Unknown Guest]

As an artist myself.

[Steiny]

Yeah, well, I come up with some pretty creative things, I'd like to think. And he doesn't seem to see that.

[Kyle]

Like what? Putting. Putting a dick, Mechanical dick in your backyard.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, it was pretty hilarious.

[Steiny]

Could I get to the point? Yeah. You don't see any other rappers or artists put in much effort at all into their album releases. And this was like a two year thing of stuff that he's put in. But this entire, whatever you want to call this structure in Toronto, he has it. He. You knew live streamers are going to pull up. So he makes a lot of noise and then the kid finds the little bag that has the date. He pulls up to Drake's house and he opens up this pamphlet that gives you the release date. Like it was just a really smart way to roll out the release date announcement. And so that I was really like, I, I tuned into the stream like because I was so curious. It really had you thinking and I would never care to do that.

[Kyle]

He knows too that the way people are winning now is by user generated content too. Right. So building that ice sculpture in Toronto.

[Unknown Guest]

Oh, so everyone comes and films a skit or people.

[Kyle]

People are. Yeah, people are marketing the album for him. Right. Like what did he do? He did one story post. I mean he feed posted it himself too. But. But how all the, the majority of the clips that went viral were from other people. Yeah, Well, I have to tell you, smart.

[Unknown Guest]

It's.

[Steiny]

This is something I've never seen in my life.

[Unknown Guest]

I have. There's like massive influencers that were flying there. I follow a few that like shot skits at the ice thing that got like 300,000 likes and shit like it.

[Kyle]

You couldn't do that in the past too, because if you didn't have a following in the past, you weren't getting views.

[Santa Cruz]

Right.

[Steiny]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kyle]

But now that the algorithms just. Anyone can go viral, you know, basing a marketing strategy on that is. That's. I thought it was genius, bro.

[Steiny]

I was like, I didn't really do yesterday. So I look into this and he was wearing like a Packers jersey. Dude, people with Drake, I don't know what it is, but like I love DJ Academics. DJ academics is sitting there at his computer because Jake Drake was wearing a Packers jacket and he's deep diving. Okay. There was a Packers ice bowl in 1967. That's what he has to be referring to. He's packers jacket, there's ice blocks. The Release date is December 31st. That was the ice bowl of the Packers.

[Kyle]

And it's so good, so good, so good.

[Santa Cruz]

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[Steiny]

It's like, dude, what the are you talking about, bro?

[Santa Cruz]

Like, it's not that deep.

[Kyle]

I saw a headline.

[Santa Cruz]

It was shot at, a shot at

[Kyle]

Caleb Williams because he calls himself the Iceman or something.

[Steiny]

No, he, I don't even know. He copyrighted Iceman for his clothing line. It's. It's really funny how deep dive people go into this.

[Kyle]

I don't know if that's true or not, but I wouldn't put that past Drake because that's what he does. He's done his whole career is like little subtle shots like that.

[Steiny]

Yeah, I was thinking about it if I flew there and just went in and grabbed that bag and if that how pissed off everyone would be if I found the bag and delivered it to his house in Toronto.

[Unknown Guest]

Isn't it crazy how Captain Drake is like with like culture in my opinion, like just everything.

[Steiny]

Like I think that's how you stay at the top for 30 years.

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[Unknown Guest]

like, it's so important.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah. 100, dude. Because they don't think they're like, above anybody. They're like, oh, like, yeah, that's like a big thing. Like, if you think you're too good to scroll on social media and see what's popping off, then, like, then you kind of lose the plot.

[Kyle]

So, yeah, I remember Drake commented on one of my things once. Like, Kyle started OVO from Ryerson, like the university that I went, that I went to. And I was like, what the. Like, I even forgot I went there. Like, it's. I don't know.

[Santa Cruz]

Has he ever commented on your stuff?

[Steiny]

I don't think he's coming.

[Kyle]

Yeah, Steiny dropped a comment. An owl on the post. Owl4l.

[Steiny]

I did.

[Kyle]

Because that's the thing about Steiny is he'll like, he'll, like, he'll like, on someone. On someone and be like, no, not him. But behind the. I mean, behind the scenes, you'll on people and be like that person. Like, yo, he, like, he doesn't follow me.

[Unknown Guest]

And.

[Kyle]

And then you'll see Steiny, like, really trying to kiss their ass. Like.

[Santa Cruz]

Like that's part of the joke.

[Steiny]

Like, no, I've never said frisky.

[Kyle]

But yeah, no, it's a good, It's a good tactic. How do you think the album's gonna be? I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be one of his best albums in the last few.

[Steiny]

Who would have thought you would have said that?

[Kyle]

Yeah, I don't know. I just think it's gonna be Fire for All the Dogs wasn't my favorite Drake album.

[Steiny]

Yeah. I wonder how hard he goes at all of his ops on this one.

[Kyle]

Or is it dead or not? Because I guess there's like he's been referencing like a Pinocchio thing in all of his live streams and people are saying that's supposed to be Kendrick Lamar and there's like a Pinocchio and the crosshairs in the book, but I think

[Unknown Guest]

reference lying or something.

[Kyle]

Or lying, I guess. Yeah. I'm gonna be up there in Toronto next week, so.

[Steiny]

Oh, you are? You're a little late to the game, bro. You're gonna go to the. It's gonna be melted, dude.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, you should put one fucking ice.

[Steiny]

Get one ice block.

[Santa Cruz]

Let's get there.

[Kyle]

I'll bring you. I'll bring you home a piece of ice. Yeah.

[Steiny]

Thank you.

[Kyle]

You can put it in your freezer.

[Steiny]

That actually is what people should have done.

[Unknown Guest]

Taking an ice of water in like a glass case. Be like, yeah, this is from an ice brick that you could probably sell those. Sell water bottles from the ice.

[Kyle]

I don't know. Maybe the reason Freezer's not here too is because he did hit up. I mean, we all saw in the chat. Or was that in a different chat? I think it was in our golf chat, but we have a chat for full sun Golf. I guess Freezer is. He's an ex DMing assassin.

[Santa Cruz]

Oh, no, that was in the chat. I saw that, bro.

[Kyle]

I don't know. What's your guys take on that? And also Freezer slid in one of my ex's dms.

[Unknown Guest]

Oh, bro.

[Kyle]

Yeah, so he said.

[Unknown Guest]

He didn't.

[Santa Cruz]

Seems like the Saleem one though.

[Unknown Guest]

Did he know yours?

[Kyle]

He said the same thing, but I don't know. The defense can only hold up so much, right?

[Steiny]

Yeah, I got love for Freezer, but that's. That's a you're dead to me type. You don't go. You don't go after your boys. Max, I think that's.

[Santa Cruz]

I wonder if he slides in with one of his like videos.

[Steiny]

Check on your exes, my friend. Cuts off their girl and they're cut off in my life as well.

[Kyle]

Freezer's excuse is that he was running an only fans agency, which I kind of believe. I mean, if he actually did it, that's definitely not cool.

[Unknown Guest]

That's a good cop out too. If it's a lie, it's just an agency, man. It's just a business.

[Kyle]

The DM to my Ex was, hey, rocket with a rocket emoji. Honestly.

[Steiny]

Well, that's not gonna get anywhere, so

[Santa Cruz]

you're probably pretty safe.

[Kyle]

I know. Honestly, if. If Freezer hooked up with my ex, I'd be like, all right.

[Unknown Guest]

Like, it might not be. Just get over the person.

[Kyle]

Yeah. I'd be like, all right. I think I'm good.

[Unknown Guest]

I want to talk about this. Joe Rogan up to Trump and everyone hating on him for that. I think it's whack.

[Kyle]

What that he. That he met with Trump the whole,

[Unknown Guest]

like, what he, like, went to go get approved and how it's just overall, like, a positive, and he knew he would get hate for it, and he still just did it to help people, and people, like, hate on him. I'm like, from that. I thought it was. I saw. I don't know, man. We're in such a weird time where, like, we've talked about this before, but, like, dude, everyone just hates everything. So annoying.

[Steiny]

He went to the Oval Office because Trump passed something about opioid addiction.

[Santa Cruz]

Ibogaine. Ibogaine's like, this psychedelic treatment that has insane use for opioid addicts. There's, like, a lot of data on it, and people have been curing opioid addiction at ibogaine centers in Mexico and in South America because it's illegal here, and so they want to legalize it here. And, yeah, Rogan obviously went to support that, but it's just, dude, people have this, like, derangement syndrome. You know, it's even. You know, it's even worse. People want America to do bad when Trump is running it. That's what I really disagree with, bro. Like, I disagree with a lot of stuff that Trump does, but I'm like, I want our country to do well, so it doesn't matter if I disagree with some stuff he does. I want good things to happen. And when you see something like that or even, like, little, like, Red 40, RFK wants to attack Red 40 and get it out. And people be like, but RFK did this and this and that. It's like, okay, can we celebrate a little win here?

[Unknown Guest]

It's about who's getting the win more than about getting the win.

[Santa Cruz]

Exactly. That's. They don't want.

[Unknown Guest]

So Joe Rogan wants to do this, and, like, no one's talking about the fact of, like, that he had to stop for a second with his team and be like, oh, I'm gonna get, like, ripped apart for, like, working with Trump or fucking all this stuff and the fact how many other people that are like, maybe have a connection to Trump. Have this, like, could make a difference and go, oh, but it's a bad look for my brand, so I'm like, not gonna do this.

[Santa Cruz]

I think it's actually like, shows courage that Rogan criticizes.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah. Like, he did it.

[Kyle]

And he's criticizing Trump a lot on his pod, too. Yeah. Trump's like, he.

[Steiny]

Rogan said that Trump was chirping him when he was in there. He said Joe's a huge liberal.

[Unknown Guest]

He called him a liberal. And like, it's like, it doesn't. But even like us talking about this, then it's like, oh, like, are they people's mind are like, oh, are they Trump? Or are they this? Or are they. It's like, no, I'm just pro. Something good happening for the fucking country, dude. Like 90%, 90%, dude. You know me fucking lives. That's gonna change. Like, shut the fuck up. Like, it's so annoying.

[Kyle]

I've realized politics is just. It's a no win.

[Steiny]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

It's just. It's tough, man. It's kind of like no matter who's in charge. I think that it doesn't really matter in a sense. I think we're just controlled. We're controlled by the elite and whoever wins is going to be. I don't think it's possible to really change.

[Steiny]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Things I also want really quick.

[Steiny]

Santa Cruz, just want to say to just from the journey of politics we've been through, everyone that. Anybody that asks me, dude, every fucking politician is the exact same. Like, I'm sorry, they're just the same.

[Kyle]

You know what's really interesting, actually? Let's. Let's just talk about it. Conspiracy.

[Steiny]

I just want to say really quick how that I want Elon Omar, like, she's the congresswoman in Minnesota, just getting exposed, like, fully exposed for fraud. And this is like the same people that are trying to tell, like the American people, we're looking out for you. You know, we want to look out for the minorities and everyone in equality. And at the same time, she's scamming everybody. And, you know, people always criticize Trump and stuff for doing certain things, but he at least like, wears on his sleeve and you have all these other people that are doing the exact same. I'm sure Gavin Newsom has some stuff that he's hiding that's going to come out. So it's like everyone's just the same. That's why I don't even care to argue about this anymore. So go ahead. I agree And I text Nick Shirley a lot. And people give him because they're like, oh, he's a autistic. Whatever they want to give, they always, like, want to hate on this guy. And he pulls up to Elon Omar's office, pulls up to her office, camera rolling, confronting her assistant. Hey, is she here? Because I want to ask her about this whole fraud situation, how her assets go from 30 million to 95, 000 overnight from an accounting error that doesn't really make sense. And like, it's just. It's just crazy. People want to give this kid and he's like out there doing stuff that's actually benefiting and exposing a lot of stuff.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah. And the directions just to attack him not.

[Steiny]

And then, yeah, why hate on this kid? And said, why not just learn and like, see what he's about, see what he's doing. But people just. I don't know, man. It's really. It's really the most toxic space ever. And people really just stand so firm. Like, I've seen even like the Alex Earl and Alex Cooper. All of a sudden it's like everyone's hating on Alex Earl because she support. She was MAGA or some. And now she's taking a huge L. Like, this space is toxic as hell. Tucker Carlson saying he doesn't. He wishes he didn't vote for Trump.

[Unknown Guest]

Like, I didn't see this.

[Santa Cruz]

I mean, that's his right as an American to, like, you know, that's the beautiful thing about this country. You can, like, disagree with people. And we should be able to disagree with people more and still get along.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

It's really 100 people are viewing it black and white. Like you're saying, bro, people, whenever. It's like a clip farm with you, Steiny, because when I post you and I talking, people go crazy at Steiny. They hate him this, that. And I'm like, over here. Like, you know, you and I probably disagree on a lot of things, but, like, you're my friend. Like, I care about you. Like, this is the way America should be. And that's the big issue in this country right now. Like, you need to be able to disagree with somebody. And I agree.

[Steiny]

There's one thing I want to say, Santa Cruz, and the people that do come at me for that is you could say whatever you want. I'm actually saying real. And half the people that you guys agree with don't believe in anything they're saying. They're just sheep and want you to still love them. So you can. I don't even give a. You hate on me as much as you want. But I'm going to tell you how it is. While these other people, these comedians out there that want to build their fan bases, that supported a different candidate, whatever, probably took money and they switched sides because they want you to be their audience, they're the fakest motherfuckers out there.

[Santa Cruz]

So.

[Steiny]

So I'm going to say about that.

[Kyle]

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[Unknown Guest]

I have no solution but the, the fact that anyone that is covering news like that just lets the people know what's going on. Being able to monetize that so that then you're like your leverage to be like I'm gonna do whatever creates views and because that's when we make more money or being having other people like say they sponsor your commercials or pharmaceutical or like being able to control your ad revenue. Like both of those pillars are why like how you get propaganda and how you get all that like I don't know what the solution is. Like maybe it's all got to be like government funded but then That's a problem because then who's funding the government? But, like, those are the two things that cause problems, even at a smaller scale. When you're like. Like you just said, you're a YouTuber, you're this. Like, you do certain things and maybe you're like, morally don't want to, but it gets views. And then you, you're running a business, you're doing what you gotta do.

[Kyle]

Like, you know, what's the new thing now is that. And I find it interesting, too, is like, what really happened with Trump's attempted assassination in Butler, right? I mean, people are saying kind of. And it's true. Like, you know, Trump, he never forgets, right? Like, he's still talking about the election. He's. He still blaming Biden for everything. Like, you know, Trump is Trump, right? But the one thing he never, ever brings up is the assassination. Like, he never says, like, yo, they tried to kill me. Like, it's just kind of something that he just kind of brushed under the rug for sure.

[Santa Cruz]

It is weird.

[Kyle]

Could that have been, like, a warrant? Like, could that have been a warning to Trump? Like, you know, maybe there was meetings going on behind the scenes that are like, yo, it's nice you're saying this, like Santa Cruz said, but, you know, that's not really going to happen. And, like, maybe that was like a warning shot to Trump where it's like, yo, we can kill you, motherfucker. Like, don't think the Secret Service is going to protect you. I just think no president is. Like, anybody can get killed. And I think that. I don't know, it's just interesting. It is, because you don't hear Trump talk about that.

[Steiny]

Well, you also never hear about the guy that. The guy that got shot behind him that died, right?

[Santa Cruz]

You just don't hear a lot about it. Yeah, it is strange.

[Kyle]

Like, you would think Trump would be saying that every speech, right? Like, I almost took a bullet or I did take a bullet.

[Unknown Guest]

What do you think about the conspiracy of that being, like, rigged to, like, help him with the election? Like, the whole thing being, like, the flag dropping and the perfect photo that switched a lot of people.

[Kyle]

I don't rule anything out in this world. I think. I think there's. I think there's conspiracies, but then I also think people take conspiracies too far. It's a case by case situation.

[Santa Cruz]

I used to be way more conspiracy theory. I do obviously believe in a lot of conspiracy theories. A lot of them are true. But there is this kind of new movement where people believe everything is a conspiracy. It's just like, dude, crazy can happen. It's kind of the same thing if people think all sports are rigged, but anybody who's actually played sports knows that, like, dude, when you just get two teams that are even, for example, sometimes you get these insane matches, and then people like, the super bowl or like, whatever, a playoff game will end. That was, like, last second. And people will be like, that was rigged. For viewers, it's like, bro, like, no. Like, crazy can just happen. Some dude can scale a building and, you know, shoot at Trump, whether he was, like, CIA trained or Mossad trained. Sure, I'm into those conspiracies. Let's hear it out. But like, to say there's this thing of everything is fake out there, and I think it's usually somewhere in the middle.

[Kyle]

I also think that people are naive to think that the US Government is the only evil government in the world. Yeah, it's almost like, yeah, a lot of these other influencers or comedians will be like, yeah, the. The Iranian government is so good. And it's like, how do you not know that? There's. I feel like every guy. Like, if Iran could trade places with the United States right now, it would. You know, I feel like every government's evil, and the US Is just the smartest to play the game.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, for sure. I. I agree. There's, like, there's certain ones, there's certain governments that, like, are clearly, like, whatever, like, pacifists. I mean, you got, like, Costa Rica and obviously.

[Kyle]

But they have no fucking chance anyway. They're not going to play the game because they have no chance.

[Santa Cruz]

And, like, yeah, Israel appears pretty evil in many regards, but, like, if you're on the other side, if you're a Ukrainian soldier, Russia is the most evil thing in the world in that moment, and vice versa. So, yeah, it's crazy, bro. I want less war. I want more money being spent in the United States, bro. In Phoenix, bro, when we're driving out to Sugar Sean's gym, the amount of fentanyl addicts slumped over in the streets.

[Unknown Guest]

Oh, my God.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, bro. I hate this. I hate this.

[Steiny]

It's not gonna happen.

[Santa Cruz]

That is compassion.

[Steiny]

That's what I learned. I. I don't want to clean that up, because then there's nowhere to blame. Oh, we need money for this. Where's the unaccounted funds gonna go to? I've always, like, thought about that. Go to downtown la.

[Santa Cruz]

I'm gonna go to San Francisco in the next month.

[Steiny]

It should be beautiful.

[Santa Cruz]

I'm gonna go expose these fake drug rehabs, bro, because I tried to get a dude. I had a video go viral with a dude in SF who was a fentanyl addict. And, you know, it's back on, like, tick tock. Page you. And it gave me, like, three or four bands for the video. So I'm like, I'm gonna get this dude this money. So I meet. I find him back in the Tenderloin sf, and I'm like, hey, man, like, if you get clean, I'll give you four racks right off the jump, and then we'll do a little gofundme. You'll probably. You'll probably start. Be able to start fresh, like, 10 racks, and. And I take them to different drug rehabs, and I realize it's a scam. Steiny, you bring this dude in there. They go, oh, yeah. So he needs an id Put down his phone number, his Social Security. I go, hey, all due respect, this dude doesn't. What are you talking about? And they go, yeah, that's how we run our rehab. And I'm like, wait, so walk around the Tenderloin sf. Again, respect to these people, but they are. They don't. Some of the. Some of them. I'm not even joking, bro. They don't know their own name. Yeah, like, they forget.

[Steiny]

I watched something yesterday. I think it was Joe, and was talking about charities are the biggest scam and how he broke down that less than, like, 10% of the money donated is even going to the kids for, like, the cancer research or whatever the charity is. And it's just like the charity is stealing money too.

[Santa Cruz]

It's just like the people that run those drug rehab centers make all the money out. Oh, this lady works there. She makes. She makes 300k a year, and there's six people that go in there a month. It should be 50 beds filled. But they're like, whatever. Why would they want to do more work?

[Unknown Guest]

I think it's because of. Some people get into this shit because they're actually bad people, and they want to. They find a loophole to make money. But then there's also some people that obviously are like, I want to make change and do this whole thing right? But then you're in it for five years, and then you get married, and then you get this. Or you have problems come up, and then everyone falls into the same thing where you start going, oh, like, it'd be nice to not worry about fudgeing my rent or my paying off this mortgage. Or like, I want a pool and I want that. And like, people start, like, their morals start stretching and then they start the system up, which is also like, it. I actually, like, understand it from their point of view too. Of like, everyone is just trying to make their life better move up. But, like. And then maybe they're like, I am doing something good anyways, so they. They balance it out. But, like, I think it's a mixture of that. Like, how do you get all these things to just run on good faith? It's, like, probably impossible. Like, in the only thing right now. We're living in a time where everything can be, like, exposed, everything can be transparent. And it's like, maybe that's where good is going to come out of. Like, it's like, you can never have

[Kyle]

total good in a human race, though. The human race is. I think. I think as long as there's money, there's going to be corruption, there's going to be evil. It's going to have to go to complete zero before it comes, right? Like, it can never just magically fix itself through politics.

[Steiny]

Should be simpler life. Dude, we gotta go Santa Cruz. Go join the Amish.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah. Hey, they got good dairy products out there. Well, dude, I mean, you know, our tax dollars. Speaking of, our tax dollars get spent raiding their farms because they have raw dairy. And, bro, I did a post like, can we stop spending our tax dollars busting Amish farms? Like, let's. Let's focus, you know, let's focus on the fentanyl problem in the United States. And then maybe once we get that cleaned up. Okay, if you want to go bust an Amish farm for selling raw milk, Like, I just don't. It's frustrating how our tax dollars are spent. Like, come on.

[Unknown Guest]

Because who do you think is pushing that narrative and paying for that? Yeah, I mean, like, to. Yeah, I don't know, whatever topic, but.

[Steiny]

Oh, we could talk about euphoria. Just the Sydney Sweeney, like, doing, like, the only fans, like, spread Eagle scene. This shit just is like, dude, yeah, it's that area.

[Kyle]

Because I'll tune in for that.

[Steiny]

I don't even know. See, I don't even care if it's Sydney Sweeney. I have zero interest in tuning into that. It's, like, so degenerate.

[Kyle]

So Cindy Sweeney is completely naked in the last episode.

[Steiny]

I don't know about completely naked. I just saw pictures of her, like, spreading her legs and, like, wearing, like, a dog collar and shit. And I'm just like, yo, this is not even.

[Santa Cruz]

Like, I watched episode what made me super uncomfortable was the baby. She at one point is dressed up like a baby with a pacifier and a diaper. I thought that shit was absurd. I think there's no reason to do that. And you know what, man? It's fine if the directors, like, look kind of, like, creepy. And he wants to have, like, Sydney Sweeney in, like, outfits and get her tits out. Whatever, dude. Like, like, that's always been a thing in the United States. Like a blonde girl with tits. Pamela Anderson. Now it's Sydney Sweeney, where I really didn't like it. My wife were watching it, and we were like, this is so weird right now. Was this baby scene. And it even goes deeper in it where it's not just showing it, but, like, the girl, like, ask her, like, wait, what are you doing? She's like, oh, like, it's. It's like a huge niche or something. I'm like, what? Why? No, it's not a huge niche. That is.

[Unknown Guest]

What's the niche? Pedophile.

[Steiny]

Yeah, that's pedophilia. There is a niche for that.

[Santa Cruz]

Really, bro?

[Steiny]

Like, and I remember.

[Santa Cruz]

There's no reason to put that in.

[Steiny]

I remember I talked to, like, this, like, a little person, and she was making 20 million a year, and I was like, why? Like, I didn't get it. And she was like, well, guys ask me to wear, like, a baseball cap and a. And have a baseball, man. They want me to look like a little boy. And I was like, what the is this? Like, this is just terrible. That.

[Santa Cruz]

And there's no reason to put that in. You want to show Sydney Sweeney's tits? Put her in a lifeguard outfit or whatever?

[Steiny]

No, I just think it's trash. There's zero creative. Like, honestly, you're two years late to this only fans trend that, like, two years ago. Yeah, maybe people would have been like, oh, like, you know, like, it's just.

[Kyle]

That's the problem with these series is, though, too, is they probably have to. Now that I'm learning about it. They probably wrote that script.

[Steiny]

Yeah, well, you're.

[Kyle]

At least a year or two ago.

[Steiny]

Well, that's what I'm saying.

[Kyle]

Oh, dude. I mean, the first. The first episode of Euphoria was horrible.

[Steiny]

Yeah.

[Unknown Guest]

Like, are they doing it to expose that? Like, that is a niche on only fans and how up it is? Or is it more like we're trying to normalize this?

[Kyle]

Whatever it is, it's not working. And listen, Euphoria. Euphoria, at the end of the day was a chick show. The first two Seasons, it was known as a chick show, but as a guy, I was down to defend it. And I would argue with people and be like, yo, the directing's actually fantastic. The writing's great, but now it's just. It's just garbage. Whatever the they did, it's just bad. And Sydney Sweeney is, whatever, she's hot, but it's just not cutting it.

[Steiny]

I lost attraction. I don't even like, I don't know.

[Kyle]

Scooter Braun's hitting that, eh?

[Steiny]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[Unknown Guest]

What the tobacco.

[Kyle]

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[Santa Cruz]

So what, they're raising the age that. What's going on?

[Unknown Guest]

No, they're saying never.

[Santa Cruz]

Oh, never. Good. Let's go. Dude, I think tobacco products are horrible.

[Unknown Guest]

I mean, I disagree with you.

[Santa Cruz]

Well, so it is. I do have, like, this kind of split mentality of, like, I believe in freedom. You know what I mean? So like freedom of choice. So I guess, like, honestly I, I don't know. I wouldn't necessarily support like people like, we should ban soda. I'm like, no, we, we shouldn't. I think we should have freedom in the United States. But I don't know, man. Yeah, cigarettes are absolutely horrible. When somebody legit smokes a cigarette, I just think it's a form of self sabotage, honestly. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know. I would rather.

[Kyle]

Some weird ass shit's going on in the uk, right?

[Unknown Guest]

I feel like I just heard of this last like couple years even just friends I've made from over there. I didn't even know UK was so like crazy like that.

[Kyle]

Dude, it's dangerous. Like when you go there, everyone's like, don't wear your watch out. And like we went there last summer and it's like, London sucks, bro. So people are cool, but there's a lot of just weird that I see going on there.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, if you don't enforce law, then people are gonna act lawless, bro. And this is what happened in the Bay Area, bro. It's the same. Kyle, like you, you, you're told like, bro, if you're in Oakland or San Francisco, like a car might pull up, dudes might get out with guns and ski masks and they're gonna take everything you have.

[Unknown Guest]

But yeah, let's, let's make it illegal to have a cigarette. How does that make sense? Like, you know, I mean like, I hear you, but like freedom, Freedom and safety, like it's for sure. It's like, it's kind of like we said earlier, like, worry about this first. Like before you're attacking the Amish for raw milk. Like there's people dying of overdose.

[Steiny]

That's insane by the way.

[Santa Cruz]

That's true.

[Steiny]

Let the Amish have their, sell their raw milk, dude.

[Santa Cruz]

Raw milk is one of the most like controversial things in the health world ever. Because like you can get sick from raw milk. It's, it's dumb to say that you. It's like a very, very safe food.

[Steiny]

Why do they sell it on the low?

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, but you can get sick from a, from alcohol. Like, like, I don't know.

[Santa Cruz]

Oh, bro, people die from sushi every year. And it's like, I think I created like a fucking solution to the raw milk debate. Let's put a little sticker on it that says this food can cause foodborne illness. Done. I guess if a state wants to make you be 18 to buy it, like those fucking kombuchas that have alcohol, I Guess you could do that. But, like, let's move on from there. Let's not spend Stanley. Like our tax dollars are getting spent, like fucking going and enforcing, fucking.

[Steiny]

That's my biggest question I always ask is how come when Cali has the estate income tax, Florida doesn't? Kelly has this homeless problem in every major city that seems to be unsolvable. Like, I just never wrap my head around that, bro.

[Santa Cruz]

Because they view it as the nice thing to do.

[Steiny]

How's this homeless problem this serious? You go to Florida, even Miami, you don't even really see. I haven't seen one Fentanyl lean in Miami. I see it in San Diego, San Francisco, Louisiana. Every time I go there, bro.

[Kyle]

When I came to LA this week, I was walking around, I was kind of scared to be in la, bro. I saw some people wearing ski masks and like, yeah, I was like, yo, what the.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, that's the size of a hockey puck. That thing probably has 150 grams of corn syrup.

[Unknown Guest]

I love Reese's.

[Santa Cruz]

Probably, but that's over a thousand calories. Yeah, that does look disgusting.

[Unknown Guest]

Because you know that chocolate's too, bro.

[Santa Cruz]

And then people eat three of these, they drink five energy drinks, they do 10 zins, they rip a geek bar. And then they're literally astonished when they have some debilitating disease. Like, this is. This is the United States of America. That looks like horrible. Yeah, it literally looks like, don't try

[Kyle]

to recreate the Reese's Peanut butter Cup.

[Unknown Guest]

It's perfect.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Steiny]

Also, don't be a guy in your 20s that freaks out when you lose your vape. Like straight up. Sorry. Just like, you're a loser, bro. If you're 24.

[Kyle]

Where did that come from?

[Steiny]

Cuz he said vaping and I just like, sorry, Jimmy, at gambles, I love you, but when that guy loses, loses his vape, it's like a search party, search warrant all over the house. It's like, dude, what. What the is wrong with you?

[Santa Cruz]

I don't know.

[Unknown Guest]

I'm in my 30s. If I. If I lose my tin, I'm freaking out.

[Steiny]

That's a little different. But like a 25 year old looking for a guy looking for a vape. Like, dude, you're a sorry.

[Unknown Guest]

I think it's because it's a vape. There's something about like, you gotta charge

[Kyle]

it and it's like, dude, it's really gay.

[Steiny]

Yeah, that's just beta.

[Unknown Guest]

Do you think like 20 year olds are. I don't think it's probably cool to

[Steiny]

smoke a vape Yeah, I think if you're like 15, when I think of vaping, I think like 15 year olds in the hallways at trying to get away with it. Yeah, that shit's for kids trying to like be deviants.

[Unknown Guest]

I remember when the Jewel was cool, we'd go to like clubs or shoe. Everyone would have a jewel in their hand.

[Santa Cruz]

Well, yeah, the problem is we made them. We made them candy flavored. I mean, Kyle, what you just said, there is some kind of truth that it's like if all, all that was available is like long cut and like American spirits, bro, no soft ass 17 year old would pick that up and just inhale a actual hit of tobacco. They'll realize how harsh it is, bro. And now we've flavored it and dumbed it down yet giving people the same like effects. It can taste like bubble gum. So it's fine.

[Unknown Guest]

I basically got soil on my lip right now. Like no kid's gonna be like that sounds fun to do. Every day I have to carry around a cup. I think I do think that is kind of the issue. Even though like I have to like fly to Montana to buy my flavored chew. But yeah, making it like popcorn caramel and kind of an issue.

[Kyle]

So going back to the Sydney Sweeney thing, if your girl had, if your girl was an actress and she had to do a sex scene, would you be chill with it or no?

[Steiny]

Yeah, I'd probably just have to have a chair on set and then.

[Unknown Guest]

Why? So you'll whack off chair in the corner.

[Steiny]

I don't know how I'd handle that. Like a sex scene if, if your

[Kyle]

girlfriend, she's an artist, like.

[Steiny]

Nah, that's, that's a square up right now.

[Kyle]

She's. She's an actress.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, that's her job.

[Steiny]

I don't give a. Yeah, I mean

[Kyle]

like Steinie, you're always out, you're always out in la. You're. You're going up to these actresses and singers and that, you know, you say they know you every time you tell me a story. When you meet one of them, let's say you finally bag one of them and she has to do a sex scene. Would you be cool with it?

[Steiny]

Yeah. As a professional, yes.

[Kyle]

I guess you have no choice.

[Steiny]

Is she gonna be okay with me getting my get back behind the scenes and not knowing about it? Probably not, but it's gonna go down like that, so I'd be okay with it. Yeah.

[Unknown Guest]

So she does a sex scene, then you go cheat.

[Steiny]

Yeah, it's probably how it's gonna be.

[Unknown Guest]

I don't, like, I don't back that.

[Santa Cruz]

That's.

[Steiny]

That's just how it's gonna grow.

[Unknown Guest]

Cheating one person's working.

[Santa Cruz]

Steiny's an eye for an eye, dude.

[Unknown Guest]

I also think it's different if you're like, land of the plug and you're. I wouldn't.

[Steiny]

Okay, well, that's like level 10.

[Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah.

[Santa Cruz]

There's a huge difference between, like, oh, like, she might win, like, an Academy Award for this versus, like, she's just in some, like, trash scene.

[Kyle]

So it matters about the quality of. Of the film.

[Santa Cruz]

I think that that would have to

[Steiny]

come in Santa Cruz. If Adam, 22, hit you up and said he wanted to do a couple's dinner with you and your girl, would you. To entertain it?

[Santa Cruz]

Absolutely.

[Steiny]

Why? Adam and Len are great people.

[Unknown Guest]

Just dinner.

[Santa Cruz]

I just. I don't know that I would really want to associate with that. I've heard good things about Adam. That he's a nice guy. But a couple's dinner, I think I

[Steiny]

could set it up.

[Kyle]

Yeah, I could get a little carried away.

[Steiny]

They are.

[Unknown Guest]

They are nice. Like, I don't know if I would disagree with people.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, I met him at a. Like a basketball event briefly or whatever. He's. Yeah, seems like a nice guy. I definitely, definitely wouldn't live the way he does.

[Kyle]

Lando's just rolling with the scenes now, though, right? Like, on her story, it's like a new guy, like, every week, though.

[Unknown Guest]

It's became her, like, marketing angle. Like, it's like the.

[Kyle]

I fall. I follow her and, like, it's like a new guy every week now. Yeah, I guess she.

[Steiny]

They asked me to do it. I said I can't do it.

[Kyle]

No.

[Santa Cruz]

Oh, my God.

[Steiny]

Do the podcast just to run a scene. I was like, I'm not. It's not my thing.

[Kyle]

You're lying.

[Santa Cruz]

No, but that. That's, like, their thing. They do a podcast with you to you on camera. They bang you.

[Steiny]

Yeah, well, it's good. That video would probably bang, but I was like, I can't do it. I don't want to get too into it. There's a huge discrepancy on how watching.

[Santa Cruz]

A few weeks we're going to be reviewing the clips on this podcast. Like, oh, Steiny, what'd you do this weekend?

[Steiny]

Can't do that one.

[Kyle]

I mean, Lena's bad. Shout out to Adam.

[Santa Cruz]

She's bad, though, right there just seems like. I don't know, man. I don't know what to Call it like kind of a weird energy with that. My Muslim friends that I hang out with, they call it haram, you know. Yeah, I'm always throwing out that term. There's a kind of like Muslim, but I just, I can't rock with that. But I try not to cast too much judgment, you know, so same thing.

[Kyle]

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[Santa Cruz]

I'm not a toe sucking guy. I don't have the, the feet thing. You know, foot massage is just like there's a health component.

[Kyle]

Jesse, would Hondo suck those?

[Santa Cruz]

I don't know.

[Steiny]

I don't.

[Santa Cruz]

Wait, but this is his wife.

[Unknown Guest]

I feel like this is like a joke though. No, like for the photo. This doesn't feel like they're like intimate.

[Kyle]

I mean if a, if some girls have nice feet.

[Santa Cruz]

This is his wife, right?

[Kyle]

Steinie, you actually signing doesn't get freaky.

[Steiny]

No, I've done that. Yeah. Missionary, you don't put a foot in your mouth a little bit?

[Kyle]

I've done that. I mean you're not spending like hours doing it.

[Santa Cruz]

But he's valid for that. That's fine.

[Kyle]

That's pretty primal, no?

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, it's gotta be very primal.

[Kyle]

That's actually as primal as it gets. No, what's the most primal sex position?

[Santa Cruz]

It's gotta be doggy.

[Steiny]

Doggy.

[Kyle]

So this doggy, is that like the best one to increase test or no?

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, doggy. Or you know, like, like prone bone where like they're kind of on that pillow. It's a variation of doggy. I feel like that's, that's like the most test raising position, you know, I don't. They haven't done any studies behind on the couch.

[Unknown Guest]

That would be the most primal.

[Kyle]

Standing.

[Unknown Guest]

Standing. And she's leaned over a couch. I think that's like, that's the best.

[Kyle]

Because you never get tired.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, you're mixing furniture in.

[Santa Cruz]

You guys know the legendary clip of shake that bear, right? Because that's the most primal. That was the most primal thing. It was a woman. It was a woman. Looks like in Canada she was with her, her mans and it looked like they had just killed a bear. Or it was like a, you know, it was a dead bear and she was using the bear. Much like Jesse. You might use a couch.

[Unknown Guest]

Her against the dead bear.

[Santa Cruz]

You can't pull up that clip. But it was some Canadian ass. So shout out to Canada.

[Kyle]

Is it true nutting and girls increases your test?

[Santa Cruz]

Dude, there's a lot of things that like temporarily.

[Steiny]

There's no way I'd have a 2000 test. Go ahead.

[Santa Cruz]

There's a lot of things that temporary increase your test that people love to write like articles about and do all this stuff, but they don't actually like increase your test long term. Like there's like studies where it's like chopping wood increases your test. And while it's true that like if we take your blood levels of testosterone, you're gonna have like a little increase maybe after chopping some wood. And then they do dumbass ones, like they had people take a bite of an onion, I think, and like, oh, it temporarily raised their test. It drops back to baseline and doesn't increase long term. Dude, I could take like this supplement right here and smash it against the wall and run around and break this camera equipment. My test would probably go up temporarily, but like long term test is a bit more complex I think than that.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah, that's like saying if I drink a coffee, I'll have energy longer for the rest of my life. It's like, yeah.

[Steiny]

Oh, yeah, that's right, baby. That was in Denver, right?

[Santa Cruz]

Damn.

[Unknown Guest]

So is it actually glass?

[Santa Cruz]

So sick.

[Unknown Guest]

I would have thought it would be,

[Kyle]

like, plexi or some biggest thing to happen in Denver.

[Steiny]

Oh, yeah. Nope. We Nuggets won a championship. I think the abs did too, maybe.

[Santa Cruz]

Are you guys gonna go to that or Steiny. Are you gonna go to the Netflix most Valuable promotions fight in May?

[Steiny]

Well, it's in Anaheim, and I love Nate Diaz, so I might go to support Nate, but let's go, dude.

[Santa Cruz]

I'll go with you. I'm gonna be in LA the twelveth.

[Steiny]

Ronna Rousey, Nate Diaz, and Francis. It's not a bad card. I don't really want to support them. I love for Dana, and hopefully that's France.

[Kyle]

Francis is on it too.

[Steiny]

I DM'd Dana and was like, yo, can you just let me know now if I'm gonna get that White House ticket?

[Santa Cruz]

I don't know if they're giving.

[Kyle]

Did you actually.

[Santa Cruz]

Should I do it right now and just throw that up on the story? I'm just gonna DM him and be

[Steiny]

like, hey, my summer's getting pretty busy. I'm just curious if I'm gonna get that UFC white card seat or not.

[Unknown Guest]

Damn. I want to go to this. This is in la.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, let's go to it, dude, because I'll be driving back from, like, West Hollywood to San Diego. I'll just pop in.

[Unknown Guest]

Do you have a connect to this cruise, or do you. Are you just buying a ticket?

[Santa Cruz]

I have no connects to it. No, I would just probably have to just buy a ticket. It'd be sick to DM somebody, though. So they could let us kind of film some. But I'll just buy a ticket.

[Unknown Guest]

I talked to Nate. Decent amount. Could try just be like, whoa, I don't know.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, yeah, let's hit up some folks, see. See what we can do even.

[Unknown Guest]

Wait, is it Jake Paul's, like, promotion? I feel like. Just hit him up.

[Santa Cruz]

It's pretty banger car, dude. But Strickland Homside is before that. That's gonna be insane.

[Unknown Guest]

So they're not doing a face off, eh?

[Santa Cruz]

I mean, holy.

[Unknown Guest]

Now they've, like, hyped it up. It's like they need to do the Face Off.

[Kyle]

Like, who said they're not doing it? They're gonna do it.

[Santa Cruz]

Dana said they're not gonna do many. I don't know, man. Those dudes will just attack each other. Hamza might just attack him. And it's also Hamza's like, his goons. You know what I mean? That's what you got to really watch out for. A lot of dudes there that don't have as much to lose and they don't give a fuck. They see the world a different way.

[Unknown Guest]

Sometimes the most anticipated fights end up letting you down. I'm wondering if this is going to be, like. It's either going to be. I'm excited for it, but it also. I could see a knot where it's just like, Strickland's getting held down or.

[Santa Cruz]

I don't know, you know, Khabib, like, held a lot of people down. But, like, at some point, let's say Hamza has four wins from here in a row where he holds people down. That does create a crazy lore when you become that dominant at that. It does. Because people want to see you lose. They don't like you. So that does create a star in its own right. It just takes a little bit.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah. Like, it could be, like, eventually. It kind of. Why? He's like a legend. Yeah. Like, the. It was Khabib and Connor after all their beef and their fight, but they did it with no commentary. It's called on YouTube, so you just hear the audio. Khabib, like, has him down and he's punching him in the face, but he's just like, yeah, all like. It's. But it's like three minutes long. He's like, say something now. He's like, talk now. Hams, hams, hams. Like, and he just keeps saying all this like.

[Steiny]

Like, it's like, yeah, like my whole take on that. Like, yeah, that's promotion. But after the fact that everybody's already watching. Conor made you say what you want. He made Khabib so much money off that fight. Especially when you're paper guys. Come on now. For sure, I get you crossed.

[Unknown Guest]

But there's nothing fake about that beef. That was like, no, no.

[Steiny]

Yeah. But Khabib wasn't sitting there even saying anything. McGregor made that fight massive.

[Kyle]

I gotta golf every day, all day after this somehow.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah. How's that going?

[Kyle]

Day by day. It's tough.

[Santa Cruz]

Day by day.

[Kyle]

I'm starting with a coach that I blocked off his afternoons now. He's pretty dope. So I'm gonna see his ass after this. And then it's just the most insane mental challenge of all time.

[Unknown Guest]

It's sick, though, that you're starting, like, new challenges like this. It's dope.

[Kyle]

Yeah. It's fun. It keeps you locked in.

[Santa Cruz]

These two things that you have going right now, though. Road to 10 and the Golf thing. It's almost a little bit counterintuitive because they say when you get in that like 9 to 10% range, you do experience some like more fatigue, some like mental.

[Kyle]

Perfect. My perfect is, is 10, 11%. Yeah. Under, under that I would look flat. That's what we like calculated up. But dude, I just wake up. It's. I actually love it because it's kind of like my dream life right now. Like when I'm older and retired I literally just want to work out and golf. So it's kind of like what I'm doing. Like I wake up 6:45, work out, come back home, eat, shower and then golf. Then that's it. And then come home and eat again.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah. Build the life that you want.

[Kyle]

Calls, calls in between.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah. That is the method I need to get better at golf for when I'm older, bro. Because it is like I'm like, oh yeah.

[Kyle]

How was it?

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah. Super fun, man. I golf to daddy wellness and Big John. It is amazing how like you know somebody like Big John can give you like little tips.

[Kyle]

Big John's nasty, bro.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, it helps the golf game tons. But what I do worry about is the pesticides on golf courses. I just, I'm releasing this video today on YouTube.

[Steiny]

Maintained, bro. It's a maintenance thing.

[Santa Cruz]

We lab tested the grass golf courses. They are littered with pestoes. Yeah, but they up your health, bro.

[Steiny]

All right, well I'll, I'll, I'll die. I'll die at 100 for that.

[Kyle]

I haven't said. But I. This is where I draw the line too. You gotta have the golf course.

[Santa Cruz]

I'm telling people green.

[Kyle]

I don't want to see no brown ass greens. Use all the pesticides you want.

[Unknown Guest]

So what are you worried about like touching the grass?

[Santa Cruz]

Pesticide exposure is not good. There's 124% increase in Parkinson's for people that live within a mile of a golf course. It isn't good. But I do go over ways in the video that I'll launch to mitigate this. You know, take N acetylcysteine. Get an air filter in your house. If you live on a golf course, filter your water with a reverse osmosis system. There's things you can do. I'm not telling people to not.

[Steiny]

So you're part of the problem. You're trying to get people afraid to leave their house. This is like your play.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah. Don't go outside no golf course pesticides.

[Kyle]

Santa, Santa Cruz is part of the elite conspiracy.

[Steiny]

Yeah, dude.

[Santa Cruz]

Dude, we just lab tested this right

[Kyle]

after becoming friends with Steiny.

[Santa Cruz]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. There we go. Yeah.

[Kyle]

Trip to Tel Aviv soon.

[Santa Cruz]

Yeah, then I blow up. Let's go. Dude, I don't think I'm welcome. No, but that grass was hot with pesticides, so be careful. Be careful out there. At least take some N acetylcysteine, Kyle. And get a air filter if you're staying in a place right near.

[Kyle]

All right, I got a tea time to make, boys. We'll see you next week.

[Santa Cruz]

Have fun.

[Kyle]

See you, boys.

[Unknown Guest]

Foreign. Takes on sports.

[Kyle]

Why? Because I have a job to do

[Unknown Guest]

with rapid fire takes.

[Kyle]

So I don't want to hear from you lava pigs on this notion today. No idea what you're talking about. You're complaining more than you like to breathe air. It's like you get up in the morning only to complain and cry and moan on social media about things that you don't even understand. Understand?

[Santa Cruz]

He's the spitfire of sports smack.

[Kyle]

Take advantage of it. Get up in here.

[Unknown Guest]

The Jim Rome show podcast.

[Kyle]

What's your beef?

[Santa Cruz]

Follow and listen on your favorite platform.

[Kyle]

You've been warned.