Offset | Ep. 164

Summary

FULL SEND PODCAST — Offset | Ep. 164 (August 22, 2025)

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Overview

This episode of the Full Send Podcast, hosted by Kyle and produced by the Shots Podcast Network, features renowned rapper Offset. The conversation takes place just before the midnight release of Offset’s latest solo album, offering an in-depth glimpse into his process, history, opinions on the music industry, personal life, and much more. The tone is vibrant, candid, and unfiltered, with Offset opening up about everything from club nights and studio collaborations to the changing landscape of the music business.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Album Release & Celebrations

• Offset’s new solo album drops at midnight. The excitement is palpable.
• Celebration plans: Offset reveals his tradition—he'll hit Miami's Booby Trap strip club the night after the release, setting up a party in the private room for family and friends.
  • Offset: “I probably celebrate tomorrow because I'm going to booby trap and play the album. Get that spent, see some ass.” (01:50)
• Strip club culture: Offset and Kyle discuss the Miami strip club scene, big nights out, and the art of “throwing” cash at album release parties (usually around $30k for Offset, but up to $100k at events like QC’s “Stripper Bowl”).

2. Gambling & Celebrity Culture

• Offset admits to some gambling at the Hard Rock but keeps it chill due to pre-release nerves.
• Conversation about high-stakes gambling with industry figures like Dana White; Offset expresses interest in joining those wild Vegas sessions. (05:18)
  • Kyle on Dana White: “He goes 30k, three hands. So they'll go up and down like millions.” (05:28)

3. Boxing, Streaming & Celebrity Fights

• Dialogue about celebrity boxing matches (Jake Paul vs. Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis) and the growing business of entertainment fights.
  • Odds and fight logistics discussed, with Offset predicting a Jake Paul win but admitting the weight difference is huge. (06:12)
  • Offset on Jake-Tank match: “I don't know. That weight mean that is a real thing.” (06:31)

4. Offset’s New Album: Creative Process & Collaborations

• Track highlights: Features with YoungBoy, Gunna, Teezo Touchdown, and a tribute to Takeoff with John Legend.
  • Offset: “I did one for Takeoff with John Legend...I don’t even listen to it because, like, it’s hard.” (09:31)
  • John Legend collaboration: “He like, cut his vocals in one day, sent it over, killed the like immediately.” (09:20)
• YoungBoy collaboration: sent back his verse from Europe in just 25 minutes.
• On Gunna: “We just know the pockets to be in, bounce off each other. Good ideas.” (10:11)
• Offset addresses whether there’s any backlash for working with Gunna (“I don’t see no flak.” (10:33))

5. Music Industry Then vs. Now: Hustle, Social Media, and Virality

• Offset reminisces about the early days with Migos, hustling to get songs played, and the hand-to-hand grind in Atlanta.
  • Offset: “Getting finessed by DJs to play our song. Not knowing people coming in here paying $25 get a song playing. We pay a hundred.” (12:30)
• Contrast with today’s internet and viral culture: less physical effort needed; success can come overnight via social media.
  • Offset: “Now...you can [just do things online] and your fans gonna buy it for collectibles.” (13:21)
• Advice for upcoming artists: Be original, perfect your craft, build a real fanbase by connecting directly with fans, and assemble a strong team.
  • Offset: “You gotta have a strong team. And...perfect your craft...just be original and build your fan base by actively talking to your social like your fans...” (15:15)

6. Livestreaming, Marketing & Content Strategy

• Offset discusses the power of streamers (mention of Kai Cenat and the impact of their 24-hour stream), and how showing personality boosts connection with fans.
  • Offset: “When people see how funny you is for real, that should make them grasp to you even more.” (16:16)
• Marketing strategies have shifted from high-budget music videos to quick, authentic content that performs exponentially better on social media platforms.
  • Offset: “We could shoot something...spend 200k on a video...get a few mil. Or just go stream for a day and get like 50 million views.” (18:35)
  • “Lifestyle, people relate to it. You just walking and talking every day.” (18:47)
• Commentary on the diminished value of music: streaming, playlists flooding the market, virality chasing over albums as “bodies of work.”
  • Offset: “People make music to catch the Internet. I don’t do that though.” (20:15)

7. Streaming Platforms, Bots, & Industry Changes

• Skepticism on the value of visible streaming numbers and the Billboard/Spotify rules that force artists to drop on Fridays.
  • Offset: “That’s the rules...all albums coming on Friday at midnight.” (25:29)
  • “Showing your streams to other people is kind of crazy.” (26:08)
• Reports of fake streams and botting; Offset says he never faked numbers: “I really want to know where I'm at, bro. I'm not trying to cap.” (24:12)

8. Origin Stories: First Hits & Jailed Success

• Offset recounts how “Versace” blew up while he was in jail, resulting in an influx of visitors (and a humorous story about jail officers singing the hit song, unaware it was his).
  • “One time the dude was doing count. Singing a song ... he’s singing Versace. Versace. Why he counting me and don't know it's me?” (27:11)
  • “That’s when I knew. Oh, yeah.” [referring to the spike in female visitors] (28:01)

9. Personal Philosophy: Life, Marriage & Moving On

• Offset firmly states he won’t marry again (“It’s not for me. No. I’ve done it. Had three kids with it. It’s like a mission that’s been complete.” (40:29))
  • Advises against marriage for those in a similar lifestyle, suggesting it’s better to focus on personal goals and independence.

10. Collaborations & Producers

• Offset explains how collaborations happen—sometimes for business, sometimes for loyalty; describes mutual support with producers and artists (often swaps, not high feature fees).
  • Praises Drake for always showing love and being fair in splits (31:49).
  • Names hottest producers: Vinylz, FNZ, OZ, Benny X, Southside, Metro Boomin, Boy Wonder.
    • Kyle: “Boy Wonder has so many good beats.” (34:39)
    • Offset shouts out “Say My Grace” prod. by Boy Wonder.
  • Nearly missed out on Tyga’s “Taste,” but is thankful he took it (35:08).

11. Gaming & Movies

• Offset’s a big Call of Duty fan (“I play it every day” (37:27)), along with Dragon Ball Z and classic shooters like Halo.
• Favorite movies: Menace II Society, Friday, Dead Presidents, Moonwalker, Jackson 5’s “American Dream,” and Scarface (39:14).
• Aspires to develop a film about his journey with Migos (“I'm trying to do it. Scripted.” (40:03))

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the pressure of album releases:

  • “When [the album] come out, it's like, okay, cool. I could breathe.” - Offset (02:03)

• On collaborating with John Legend:

  • “He like, cut his vocals in one day, sent it over, killed the like immediately.” - Offset (09:20)

• On building a real fanbase:

  • “Just be original and build your fan base by actively talking to your social like your fans. I don't do a good job of that. But I didn’t come out of that era.” - Offset (15:15)

• On not chasing trends:

  • “People make music to catch the Internet. I don’t do that though. That’s why a lot of songs come and go.” - Offset (20:15)

• On marriage:

  • “It’s not for me. No. I’ve done it. Had three kids with it. It’s like a mission that’s been complete.” - Offset (40:29)
  • “Everything’s temporary.” - Offset (40:55)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:35] – Album drop news, celebrations, strip club traditions
• [02:03] – Pre-release nerves, gambling at Hard Rock
• [03:12] – Strip club spending on album release weekend
• [05:18] – Gambling stories: Dana White, Vegas
• [06:12] – Jake Paul vs. Gervonta Davis and boxing predictions
• [08:41] – Upcoming album track breakdown & tributes
• [10:07] – Studio chemistry with Gunna and YoungBoy
• [12:10] – Offset’s musical origins and early hustle
• [15:15] – Industry advice for up-and-comers
• [16:20] – Streaming and showing more personality
• [18:35] – Music video budgets vs. content value now
• [20:13] – Albums vs. singles/virality in 2025
• [24:12] – Talks about bots, fake streams
• [27:01] – Story of “Versace” blowing up when Offset was in jail
• [31:49] – Experiences working with Drake
• [35:08] – The story behind Tyga’s “Taste”
• [37:27] – Gaming favorites: COD, Halo, Dragon Ball Z
• [39:14] – Favorite movies, inspiration
• [40:03] – Plans for a biopic about the Migos journey
• [40:29] – Views on marriage and independence

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Closing Thoughts

Offset delivers an energetic, honest interview, brimming with stories—both wild and contemplative. He mixes real advice for musicians, hard truths about the modern industry, and tales from inside the club and studio. Through all the humor and flex, Offset never loses sight of his desire for creative control, authenticity, and a true bond with fans. If you want an inside look into what it really takes to stay relevant in hip-hop for over a decade, Offset’s transparency and experience in this episode is essential listening.

Transcript

[Offset]

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[Kyle]

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[Offset]

Yes, sir.

[Kyle]

Yeah. So album tonight at midnight.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

So this is like, I know you've done a few pods, but I feel like I got you on the best day.

[Offset]

Best day right before the album.

[Kyle]

You guys are probably vibing today, right?

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Energy's high.

[Offset]

Energy high. Excited, bro.

[Kyle]

How do you celebrate, like an album coming out? Like, what do you guys do tonight?

[Offset]

I probably celebrate tomorrow because I'm going to booby trap and play the album. Get that spent, see some ass.

[Kyle]

So booby traps tonight?

[Offset]

Tomorrow.

[Kyle]

Oh, tomorrow. So tomorrow night? Friday night.

[Offset]

Friday night.

[Kyle]

Okay. And then what have you guys been gambling here while you're at the Hard Rock?

[Offset]

Gambling? A little bit. I want a little something something lost on to gay something back. But yeah, I've been chilling for the most part. We got on the boat yeah, man. Just been chilling, man. Because it'd be be kind of nervous before it come up. So I just be chilling. When they come out, it's like, okay, cool. I could breathe.

[Kyle]

Do you like handle all the social that you got to do or do you have a whole team of people that does that?

[Offset]

I got a whole team of people, but I like posting. I do all the posts of myself. I just make sure we have content every single day. Like I'm blowing their phone up right now. Like I need some to post right now.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

But I posted myself though. Yeah.

[Kyle]

Strip club wise in Miami. Are you loyal to booby trap or do you. Do you go to other strip clubs?

[Offset]

This is too. Because tissue got the private room.

[Kyle]

Tootsies is lit.

[Offset]

They got good food too.

[Kyle]

I went there one time for Dana White, his son's 21st. We celebrated in Miami and we went to tootsies. It was crazy. I feel like I've never done booby trap like properly.

[Offset]

Come with me.

[Kyle]

Booby traps just. It's kind of intimidating. No, I said like for me a little bit.

[Offset]

Why is it?

[Kyle]

I don't know, it's just a lot to handle.

[Offset]

A lot of ass.

[Kyle]

Like a lot ass.

[Offset]

Everything.

[Kyle]

Just a lot of everything. Yeah. I haven't done it properly.

[Offset]

Yeah, you probably did it properly.

[Kyle]

So what do you, what do you throw at booby trap on an album release weekend?

[Offset]

So I what I do is I go in with population. I vibe for a minute, probably like 30, 45 minutes. And then I go to the private room. But my people where we go, we go to the private room. We got our own vibe set up.

[Kyle]

What are you throwing out there on like an album release weekend?

[Offset]

I'm release probably like a 30.

[Kyle]

30K?

[Offset]

Yeah. But on a regular night when I'm just going say I'm 18. Maybe she likes flight. She like 30 on the. Today is a special day.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

I'm turn so I gotta, gotta, gotta let that go.

[Kyle]

Yeah. What's the most you've ever thrown in a strip club?

[Offset]

100K and Magic. Yeah. Damn dumbest ever. That's a lot. What the.

[Kyle]

What was that occasion?

[Offset]

We had this QC event called stripper bowl. Stripper Bowl? Yeah. We had to move into another club that was a bigger club.

[Kyle]

What's stripper bowl?

[Offset]

We just made like a. A holiday. Just like we did it once though. We only did it once though.

[Kyle]

So it's like the super bowl. Except strippers.

[Offset]

Exactly. You gambling upstairs, like professional games and then down with all the strips and we do like a. I think 600 was thrown the whole night.

[Kyle]

600?

[Offset]

Yes. You know what the.

[Kyle]

Does the store look like two weeks.

[Offset]

To get the ones. It took them two weeks to get the ones. Yeah.

[Kyle]

No way.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

That's crazy. What other rappers have you been with? Like, who. Who's, like, known for, like, throwing a lot that you're friends with? Southside, the producer.

[Offset]

Yeah. Oh, here, come. Throw it up. Regular. That, like, this is regular throw.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Every time he go dub.

[Kyle]

That's crazy.

[Offset]

That's the most you ever do?

[Kyle]

I don't know, Gabe. How much have I thrown in a strip club? I'm usually, like, really hammered. 15? No, we've done more than 15, for sure. Yeah. No, I think we've done like, 25 or something.

[Offset]

That's a lot of ones.

[Kyle]

But I don't go to the strip club too often. Yeah, I like going, like, once in a blue moon, like, if you have all the boys.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Nothing beats like a strip club night.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Like, with the right occasion, too.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

It's a great time.

[Offset]

Yeah. I don't go out of time either, because I want to burn out. I want to become a regular in that.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

I mean, so that's why I throw as much when I go, because I don't go as much.

[Kyle]

Yeah. How about gambling? Have you always been a gambler?

[Offset]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kyle]

When you're in Vegas, you got to come play at the Red Rock. We play with Dana. Dana White there.

[Offset]

I always want to play with Dana.

[Kyle]

You gotta come. They're crazy.

[Offset]

I want to see them because them be going crazy.

[Kyle]

He goes 30k, three hands. So they'll go up and down like millions. Yeah, no, that's just always 30k3 hands.

[Offset]

Pretty much the whole time.

[Kyle]

Pretty much, yeah. It's crazy.

[Offset]

From the beginning. He just saw it. Did he just sell usc? Is that real?

[Kyle]

I think they got a new deal for 7.7 billion. So now the UFC is going to be on a streaming service, Paramount Plus. So now that people don't have to pay for pay per view anymore, so it's going to be even bigger. Do you watch it all or no?

[Offset]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I watch.

[Kyle]

You saw Jake Paul and Tank Davis.

[Offset]

I don't understand how that's happening, though.

[Kyle]

I mean, that's kind of what Jake Paul does, right?

[Offset]

7, 8, 6. I'm not saying 78. Like the. So it's far.

[Kyle]

So you think Jake wins?

[Offset]

Yes.

[Kyle]

This is kind of like the Mayweather vs. Logan Paul fight. And Mayweather, he got the better of Logan for sure. I Think Logan's even bigger than Jake? No, Logan's bigger than Jake. Yeah, like, bigger. Yeah. But Jake's now a more experienced boxer than probably Logan was at that time.

[Offset]

I don't know. That weight mean that is a real thing.

[Kyle]

What's the odds on that, I wonder? Not out yet.

[Offset]

Who you think I went out of? Canelo.

[Kyle]

I don't really follow boxing like Canelo, man.

[Offset]

I like. I like, I like my boy, but Canelo just. He not old. He still got it. And he got him. He hit hardest. And then, like, the fighters he fought and lost to some dogs, though. Like, most people won't get in the ring with him. So it's like. I feel like. I don't know. Has he got this? I don't know. I feel like he gonna land, though. What's that? What's the. What's the odds on that? Oh, listen to this.

[Kyle]

Davis is minus 205 to be J. Paul.

[Offset]

Jay Paul's plus 155.

[Kyle]

Wow, that's tight odds. 2. Tank Davis is minus 205. Jake Paul's 155. Opening odds. Dude, that's crazy. I don't know.

[Offset]

Tank 5:2, though. But it's, like, so short. Yeah, I'm saying the height differences.

[Kyle]

Like, is Jake even gonna be able to hit him? Like, he's probably so fast.

[Offset]

Short, though.

[Kyle]

Hank's gonna hit him a lot.

[Offset]

How tall is tank? Five seven. Like, six, three. So different. That's. No, I know 63 and big. My technique. He got him in technique because he's. For sure.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

But I don't know. I gotta see that fight. That sounds crazy.

[Kyle]

You gamble on football.

[Offset]

You have to pay him a lot of money to that fight.

[Kyle]

Oh, they're making so much money. They're making so much money off those fights. Yeah, on Netflix, too.

[Offset]

Now. He had to, though.

[Kyle]

Like, it's got to be working, boss.

[Offset]

You got to pay. If you ask somebody to fight, you got to pay them or how it works.

[Kyle]

I think it happens different ways. I feel like with those two guys, they just come to a. I mean, maybe even Netflix starts that, right. And just offers them both. Both a bag.

[Offset]

Oh, yeah.

[Kyle]

They're probably getting 20 mil a pop. I think that's too low just to step more.

[Offset]

So Giovanni didn't got it. He get it on his own already.

[Kyle]

True. Yeah. Gervonta's been getting paid. That's true.

[Offset]

And if you're gonna do this fight over the other fight, they probably give him some dogs. I give him a lot.

[Kyle]

They're getting paid. But the album drops tonight.

[Offset]

Kiari Kiara, real name look in the Mirror album Speak My Truth album. I feel it. It is what it is.

[Kyle]

There's two songs out now, right? Already?

[Offset]

Yeah. Professional Embodies.

[Kyle]

I guess it'll be out by the time people are watching now, but what's some tracks to look out for. I saw there's a feature with Young Boy.

[Offset]

Yeah, that one. Pills. Watch out for that one. Watch out for it. It's another one. That's not a turn record. It's like. It's called Proud of Myself with TZL Touchdown. And another one to watch is I did one for Takeoff with John Legend. I did it. Me and John Legend. So it's like working with him's crazy, bro.

[Kyle]

Did you guys work together in the studio?

[Offset]

Nah, but he like, cut his vocals in one day, sent it over, killed the like immediately.

[Kyle]

So he's on the track.

[Offset]

He owned the song. Yeah. And I shot a video with him too. That's like a touchy song.

[Kyle]

What was that process like with John?

[Offset]

Very hard. He had did a hook for me and I sat on it probably three months and everybody kept telling me, like, cut the verse. And it was hard for me to cut it because I never made a song about the situation because it was just hard to do. But now there's that. I don't even listen to it because, like, it's hard.

[Kyle]

Just had to get it out and.

[Offset]

Then get it out and it's out. Yeah.

[Kyle]

Did you work with Young Boy in the studio or you guys just traded? Versus he was.

[Offset]

He'd been in Amsterdam. He didn't fell in love with like, Europe or some. He said, I don't even want to come back. You want to live there? But he said that. He just said, send it to him. He sent it back in like 25 minutes.

[Kyle]

Who's the most, like, automatic in the studio that you like, work with?

[Offset]

Me and Ghana.

[Kyle]

Ghana.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Oh, yeah. You have a song with Ghana too, right?

[Offset]

Just same city. We just know the pockets to be in, bounce off each other. Good ideas.

[Kyle]

Have you guys been in the studio a lot together?

[Offset]

Yeah. Yeah. For the past year. Yeah. We got one on the album called Different Species. It's one of them ones.

[Kyle]

Ghana's on fire right now.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Did you get like, any flack for like, working with Gunna or, like, Don't Be My Business?

[Offset]

So, like. Nah.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

You know what I mean? I don't see no flat.

[Kyle]

No, he's been on fire. I feel like all the. That he kind of went through is like. And honestly, like, he just kept dropping fire and it didn't even, you know.

[Offset]

Yeah, dude, I learned the same thing he taught me about your listen to, like, tune out and get to what people really love you for.

[Kyle]

Because at the end of the day, fans just want good music. Like, that's all they care about.

[Offset]

So it's like when you get back on that and you focus on that and tune that other out, it's like that just go over your head, man. That should be over with.

[Kyle]

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[Offset]

Check out the Jupiter app.

[Kyle]

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[Offset]

Just a group of us.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

So it was fun at first. You know, I mean, like, so it wasn't like.

[Kyle]

Like, when was the first time you guys got in the booth?

[Offset]

The first time probably was, like, 2009. No, hell no. Before that, because it was eighth grade. We was rapping. Eighth grade.

[Kyle]

And what made you guys, like, want to get in there for the first time? Like, someone inspire you?

[Offset]

I wasn't rapping. See, Quo and Takeo's already, like, rapping. Uhhuh. And so they just kind of got me into it kind of for bb for real. Like, kind of got me into it. And then we started really taking it serious by like 10th grade. Trying to, like, trying to actually go to open mics, go to Atlantic. We used to stay in Gwinnett, so that's the outskirts of Atlanta. It's like 30 minutes from Atlanta. So nobody came from outside with us. So we would have to go to the city, make the connects. Getting finessed by DJs to play our song. Not knowing people coming in here paying 25 get a song playing. We pay a hundred dollars. Or they might tell us we'll play it three times. You got to buy a bottle. We teaming up because that was such.

[Kyle]

A different grind back then. Yeah, like, imagine your grind compared to what upcoming artists are having to do right now.

[Offset]

That's why so many upcoming artists. Because the grind is, I think back.

[Kyle]

Then, bro, there's no physical work now, right?

[Offset]

No physical work. Well, you can, but your fans gonna buy it for collectibles. But it's like.

[Kyle]

But you don't got to go out and talk to DJs and, like, did you guys have to, like, go grind at radio stations and stuff?

[Offset]

Too excited actually to go, though. We appreciate everything. Hot 97v103.97.5 In Atlanta, we was going, pulling up to them all the time. Spin the record. Spin the record. But we knew we had to get close to a dj. Shout out to DJ Scream. DJ Scream did our first mixtape before we ever had shoot you anybody, we had paid them out of pocket. And the grinds, it was different. It was like hand to hand. You had to touch people. It wasn't no viral people that was already big on the Internet, was already stars, like, already, you know, I mean, so it wasn't like I could do some online and my song popped during that time. But the good thing about this is, like, you build a real fan base. It's not like people, because I feel like when you pop online, it's hard because it's like, that's a trendy thing that people like, versus somebody. Like you was whack at first to people and then was like, oh, this hard and, oh, this hard and it grows. It's different when it just be like, boom. It's good.

[Kyle]

Yeah, because you've been like, successful now for what, over like 10 to 12 years now?

[Offset]

Almost.

[Kyle]

Right. Was the first big. Big hit, would you say was Versace Remix Me.

[Offset]

The first big hit was Bando, because I was played all over the Radio in Atlanta and that's all I wanted to do. I didn't never think like world when you trying to get on, you trying to blow up in your city. That was the biggest. But then of course like biggest stat number wise for us to go to the next level was Versace for sure.

[Kyle]

What would you tell like upcoming artists now? What's the. Because not many people have done what you've done where you've been successful and for so long, like 12 years in the rap game, you see so many rappers, they're. They're on top of the world and now they're like completely done. What do you think's been the key to your success and like what would you tell upcoming people?

[Offset]

The key to my sister, I feel like is always never satisfied with where I'm at, status wise. Never not big enough. I always want more. And I, and I'm. And I'm. I always grab a team to help. You can't do this shit on your own. You gotta have a strong team. And for the upcoming artists it's like perfect your craft and work on. I feel like sometimes people, a lot of artists look at maybe they favorite artists and try to do what they did. Everybody have their own book to this own story to how they do. So like just be original and build your fan base by actively talking to your social like your fans. I don't do it, I don't do a good job of that. But I didn't come out of that era so it's like I can get.

[Kyle]

Away with it, right?

[Offset]

Like going live and, and doing all that, playing records on live and all that is showing personality. Especially for rappers. We don't show personality. Everybody think we tough or we quiet or we like don't want to be bothered. But I learned like through cost strain when I went on costume. Personality. When people see how funny you is for real, that should make them grasp to you even more.

[Kyle]

That was huge.

[Offset]

Yeah, she was huge.

[Kyle]

What was that like doing that with Kai?

[Offset]

That was fun as God was just being me. I ain't give a. I feel like.

[Kyle]

You were one of the first people to kind of do like a 24 hour one too, right?

[Offset]

I was and I feel like it was a, it was a nice booster. It was a nice like alley for the rest of his place.

[Kyle]

You guys had that baby simulator thing too, right? Yeah, that was funny that we had.

[Offset]

The lie detector test. The. That shock you, the little. That like the shock you splashed me with water when I went to sleep. Them is funny though. Some Good.

[Kyle]

He's. It's crazy how big he's gotten him, though. Crazy.

[Offset]

Just being him. I feel like he ain't do no corny to get where he was at.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

I mean, just being him.

[Kyle]

How much impact do you think streamers play now in the music industry?

[Offset]

I hate to like Paris and. Because it's two different worlds.

[Kyle]

Just, like, how much you think streamers understand?

[Offset]

It's just like saying, like, when you ask that to me, it's just like saying, how much does fashion influence the music scene? It's like it's two different worlds that collide together. I with the streaming. I with the streamers, whatever they got going on, like, a new way for kids to find, like, success by doing that they want to do. I'm all for that.

[Kyle]

I think I saw.

[Offset]

I was a kid with a dream of being a musician. You know what I mean? And, like, how that felt like, damn, this a dream. To be able to then be able to do it is like doing some. I really wanted to do I with it.

[Kyle]

Like, I'm wondering how much your marketing strategies have changed over like 12 years on, like an album release week or month. Like, I saw you say on Joe's pod that you could spend a few hundred grand on a music video, it'll get X amount of views. Or you can spend a hundred bucks of, like you said, you're just getting like a dirt bike clip or some. And that'll potentially get like 10 mil.

[Offset]

Exactly.

[Kyle]

So it's like, I noticed that because we do a lot of YouTube stuff now too.

[Offset]

YouTube didn't change totally.

[Kyle]

It's crazy, bro. Like, even. Well, we could shoot something because we've done like a lot of pranks and big like that. And yeah, you can spend like 200k on a video and upload, Take a month to edit it and then put it on YouTube and I'll get like, you know, a few mil. Yeah, or you can just go stream for a day and just around seconds of that and get like 50 million views.

[Offset]

50 million. But that's what happened is the other platforms kind of took away from YouTube. People don't just be on YouTube because you're gonna see that. Soon as it's on YouTube, you're gonna see it on.

[Kyle]

You already saw it any other.

[Offset]

Any other. Any other lab. So it's like, I'm cool with the running guns now because I feel like lifestyle, just like with the streams, lifestyle, people relate to it and you just walking and talking every day. Being with somebody every day, lifestyle. I do Big videos sometimes because it's just my stuff. It's not for. It's not for like views. It's like I want to be creative with this. Yeah. Like bodies. That was a big record for me though. So it makes sense for me to do a nice video. I think that video is like 200 and it's with a feature. So it's another artist. So it makes sense for it to cost that much. But me and my other shit, I do some shit right here. Go right here on this pool. Put some girls in the pool, go to a basketball court, play basketball. Actually playing. Shoot a video that should get way more views than the 200000 where I got VFX and my dinosaur coming on my neck. Some crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. But it's like I give the program.

[Kyle]

Yeah, I know our music videos. You think as a whole getting less on YouTube now?

[Offset]

I don't feel like they're getting less. I feel like the algorithm at YouTube is weird. They feel like if you listen to this person, this person, you're gonna listen to these people and you rotate the videos. That's what I think. Yeah. I think artists dropping videos every goddamn day.

[Kyle]

Because you see like old YouTube, like music videos have like a billion views. And like I feel like what was the last big music video that actually like popped the off and has like a ton of views. I can't like think of one.

[Offset]

Okay.

[Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Like.

[Offset]

Like this would be happening in music. Anything attached to music, they find ways to cut the money. They're paying who the platforms. Because even with streams and bro, how it's done and how it's counted to money is way different from five years ago, six years ago, seven years ago. How strong was still was going just there's just less exposure. Like they didn't. I feel like the playlist and. And water down so crazy. There's so many place 400000 playlists on Spotify, 400000 playlists on Apple. Then you got YouTube where you could create a playlist and you can. It's just like. It's like scrambling music. That's why projects. I feel like albums ain't ticking. Like people don't make body work no more. People make music to catch the Internet. I don't do that though. That's why a lot of songs come and go. Like songs when you was a kid, you remember the kids now after two years, they don't even respect the song as you fell off or like there's some shit's like different, bro. It's just different, bro. I feel like the value of music ain't the same.

[Kyle]

You know how to do this. But do you think other people, like they gotta get with the times a little bit and they have to respect where just like the Internet is going in content to stay relevant?

[Offset]

Yes and no. Because if some acts like what's the dude named? Russ.

[Kyle]

Russ.

[Offset]

Yeah. Right.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

He ain't no big ass Internet, but he gonna sell more tickets than the who is.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

What's.

[Kyle]

He's just low key, raking it in Russ all the time. Right.

[Offset]

Because he built this fan base.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

So even if you're on the Internet, like building your fan base is what matters, bro. Like touching your fans with them like no other. Like a lot of people like the end dude. Right. You know Ian.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

And I see what he did though. Like he kind of like nurtured his fans like this us against the world. And then people just start joining same thing with the same thing with you. Like this us. But talking to these with these, noticing them giving them a name for themselves. If you that works in this time of day. But like having a viral video, you jumping off the sky and then a song playing a song. Catch that gonna last maybe five months. But it's like not taking serious of building the fan base. But some songs be big as on the Internet and then the streams be low as hell. That's why I don't make like Internet songs. Because if you think about the Internet. Right. Don't count for a stream. Most videos on Tick Tock go viral within 30 to 15 seconds, which means they're only listening to the one part and then after they shoot a video to cut them off.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

You know what I'm saying?

[Kyle]

So yeah. All right, guys, really quick. I want to give some love to Shopify. I love that they're a partner of this podcast because this one is so true to home. You guys have seen our evolution with the full send brand and what we did with FullSend.com and behind the scenes, the business behind the scenes a business was Shopify. If you've wanted to start a business, if you have a product and you need to get your website going, you need to get your e commerce business going. Take it from me, there's no better other platform to use than Shopify. You hop on there, there's so many ready to go templates and you can build an entire online store in minutes. Now they have AI tools that do product descriptions and all this other AI shit that does everything for you, it's insane. And I got you you guys on a sweet deal to get started. You guys can go to shopify.com fullsend and sign up for a $1 per month free trial, which is insane. So if you've been wanting to do something, boys, this is the steal. I got you boys on a sweet deal full send dot com. Shopify. Shout out to Shopify. We love you guys. Let's get back on the pod. I see a lot of weird shit with like botting and shit on Spotify and like playlisting. Is that like a thing that's going on now that a lot of people are doing?

[Offset]

I think it's a thing going on. I never, I ain't never did this, but I've heard about it. But I'm not really. I don't know. I'll be seeing bots on comments. Yeah, when you say.

[Kyle]

But like you like fake streams.

[Offset]

I've seen some old arts get exposed for that. But it's like I would never want to do that because I really want to know where I'm at, bro. I'm not trying to cap. And then like they're gonna notice after a while because really not listening. It's fake.

[Kyle]

Going back. Do you miss those like days of like doing those old physical grinds?

[Offset]

No, no, no.

[Kyle]

That was probably a lot of work.

[Offset]

Because it was hard as to get your like. It's hard, bro. To spread the word. Hell no. That post is on the walls and doing all that posters on the stop signs. It was good, but it's just hard.

[Kyle]

You always appreciate it.

[Offset]

I really had to do it myself. We was doing it ourselves. Putting the on that ourselves.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Going around driving around different cities and in Georgia to put our up. It worked though. It does work. But hell no doing it. Hell no Street Teams. Hell no.

[Kyle]

Damn. What do you think's the biggest thing that's changed from like now till then till now in the music industry?

[Offset]

Oh, like the process of putting the music out. Like Friday. You got to put the song out on DSPs Friday for it to count. For the. That shouldn't be like that. It should count from whenever the that come out.

[Kyle]

Why is that?

[Offset]

That's the rules.

[Kyle]

So wait, you have to put your album out on Friday?

[Offset]

Billboard rules. You got to. Yeah. That's why all albums. If you notice all albums coming on Friday at midnight.

[Kyle]

And who makes that rule? Spotify.

[Offset]

Think Billboard. Billboard.

[Kyle]

Okay.

[Offset]

So then when that happens, you gotta think like, if you're a little rap artist. You trying to come up. It's hard like without everybody dropping on the same day. Back then. That's the difference from now. Back then we would drop on. We had Migo Mondays. We just dropped on a Monday. Ain't nobody dropping. We didn't give a about the numbers. And like the number is whack for. For the platforms. I'm not gonna lie to say how many listeners you got to say how many Showing your streams to other people is kind of crazy.

[Kyle]

You don't like that?

[Offset]

I don't with it because guess what? Some songs like I think Scissor album like maybe eight months later, the shit's selling more than anything. And I feel like with the trendy fans now, like they go off of say for instance, a song come out and the first day don't be be that good. Right. They won't listen to it because of what people saying, like, oh, the first day didn't do a certain amount of numbers. So it tuned out the fan base some. So it's hard to grow records. Your gotta pop in now. It's like you gotta pop now.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

And go. Ain't no grinding for the records because they show too much of the numbers and trick people minds.

[Kyle]

How did the Versace song come about? Can you tell us the story of that?

[Offset]

I was in jail, bro. I don't even know. I just know I heard it on the phone. Really? What y' all just got on the song? Oh, it's up. So I can tell you my experience with being.

[Kyle]

Yeah, tell us.

[Offset]

That sucked. I ain't. I ain't telling nobody who I was. And then one time the dude was doing count. Singing a song like the officer doing.

[Kyle]

Count before you heard it.

[Offset]

No, he just don't know it's me. But he's singing the song like he's singing Versace. Versace. Why he counting me and don't know it's me? Because I ain't told nobody. I had. It had been so it was so fresh. It happened while I was in there. So it was like, he ain't no. He probably like no. Like when I was. That was crazy for me because as soon as I can. And then you know what happened. I knew it was real. I had six vegetations at that jail. You was allowed to kid and girls would come back to back.

[Kyle]

Pink.

[Offset]

Pink ping. You have to wait so it'll tell you like the list the girl name.

[Kyle]

Just visiting or just visiting. That's when I know conjugals.

[Offset]

No conjugals no, it's like a glass. It's like a county. It's some county. I was in there for, like, probation. Small.

[Kyle]

So six Versace comes out and six chicks just come to visit you in jail?

[Offset]

Swear to God. Every weekend, every. Every video.

[Kyle]

That's dope.

[Offset]

No, they, like, sitting in the room like this and knowing. That's when I knew. Oh, yeah.

[Kyle]

And did you know them? Like, were you like, so I know him. Yeah. Yeah.

[Offset]

But it was like, I would do it different. Like, I would be like, come at 10. And then they're not answering the phone. Was every. Pick up phone. Hello? Yeah, that. You know, when you go there.

[Kyle]

That's pretty sauce.

[Offset]

It's sauce, right? Yeah. I started seeing, like, okay, I see what's coming. It's on the way.

[Kyle]

They all came in one day, too.

[Offset]

Yeah, it's one day. You.

[Kyle]

Only because it's girls in one day.

[Offset]

She's a girl. One day.

[Kyle]

That might be a jail record.

[Offset]

No, they was looking at me crazy. Now they lost.

[Kyle]

That was the jail beauty, right?

[Offset]

You go on another visit.

[Kyle]

Jail guys jealous.

[Offset]

Them, like, damn, boy, what you got going on? My. You know, I get money out there, you know, I mean, I ain't telling them what's going on. I'm not telling them because it wasn't believing.

[Kyle]

I was only in there for 12 hours, but I learned it's kind of like exactly like the movies. Just, like, weird. Okay, Like, I'll tell you a story. I told this before, but, like. Yeah, so we did a prank. We've done a lot of pranks, right? So we did a fake mall cop prank. Like, I had the. You know, Paul blurt. Like, I had the thing. The. And, like, the thing. And then in Texas, it's illegal to impersonate a security guard. So we're doing a fan prank in the mall. Like, with people like, yo, don't do this, blah, blah. And then eventually I found out I had a warrant for my arrest.

[Offset]

They figured out it was you, I.

[Kyle]

Guess, when we uploaded the video. So we found out we had a warrant for my arrest. So eventually I decided, all right, I'll turn myself in. So I went there and then, yeah, when I got in, like, I swear to God, it was the weirdest thing. Like, this guy walks up to me and he's just like, he.

[Offset]

You say you'll never join the Navy, that you'd never track storms brewing in the Atlantic, and skydiving could never be part of your commute. You'd never climb Mount Fuji on a port visit. Or fly so fast you break the.

[Kyle]

The sound barrier.

[Offset]

Joining the Navy sounds crazy. Saying never actually is. Start your [e-mail] America's Navy, forged by.

[Kyle]

The sea was like, literally, like, telling the guy, like, he wanted to, like, share a cell with me, like some gay and like that. And he, like, walked up. He's like, what's your name? I'm like, kyle. He's like, I'm butt Naked. And he's like, telling the guy, like, he can come sleep in my cell. And. And I was like, literally about. They're about to put me in a cell. And then I think the guard, like, he put me in another cell. But, I mean, what the hell?

[Offset]

I ain't never heard no like, that. Damn.

[Kyle]

Yeah, he wasn't that big, so, like, I probably would have to scrap him.

[Offset]

But, yeah, had to get in there.

[Kyle]

I mean, I wasn't trying to scrap in jail.

[Offset]

You better have to.

[Kyle]

Yeah, yeah. It was crazy. But not. It was good. I just chilled in there, and then eventually I was out, ate some food. But, dude, I was. It was terrifying.

[Offset]

Told you his name.

[Kyle]

He said, my name's Butt Naked.

[Offset]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I would have punched his ass off.

[Kyle]

Yeah, well, they're probably not gonna do that to you, but, like, for. To me, it's a little. Probably easier, right?

[Offset]

She's a little fragile.

[Kyle]

Yeah, probably. I mean, it's a lot easier to introduce yourself as Butt Naked to me than Offset pause. Yeah.

[Offset]

Next project.

[Kyle]

Yeah. Jail. We're not going back. Yeah, that, bro. You've done a few other songs with Drake, right? No complaints.

[Offset]

No complaints.

[Kyle]

That's a banger.

[Offset]

Came through for me on that one. That's my daughter. I.

[Kyle]

Have you been in the studio with him?

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

Yeah. Was that song made in the studio?

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

That's one of my favorite songs. No Complaints is.

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

You could throw that on anytime.

[Offset]

Anytime.

[Kyle]

On the way to, like, a party smacks.

[Offset]

I love doing it at the show Turn up. They must picture that every time.

[Kyle]

How many songs do like Migos. And you have a Drake total, so many, right?

[Offset]

Five or six.

[Kyle]

Has he always showed love to you guys?

[Offset]

Always pull up to the video shoes, all that. Don't make it a hassle. Don't be charging nothing none. Even we was little, like, didn't charge. Didn't like. Because a lot of artists his size will bully the record. Be like, I'm gonna do it, but I want all the publishing order. He ain't doing none of that. Like, equal splits.

[Kyle]

How does that Work. So like when you. When someone approaches you do a song, sometimes you like request a feature or like if you're. If like a feature price and. Or if you're friends with them, you just do it for free. It's kind of just like a case.

[Offset]

By case basis depending on how it came in. Like if you get my lawyers and up, of course I'm gonna be like features. But like if I with you, I'm gonna do it. Or sometimes I might. I can with the song and see the potential of the song doing something. Sometimes the money for the future don't be worth it. It'd be like just with the artist, he had special artists anyways. You never know how the tables turn.

[Kyle]

Yeah, now I see why. Yeah. There must be so many egos in the rap game too, right? Over the years for sure. Like, yo, why aren't you doing this for me for free? Like right.

[Offset]

I'll be like that too. Yeah. And my producers and I ain't fear you don't advance. I'll give you a vest though. Swap those. Give me an app. But a lot of my partners though, we do swaps though. Okay.

[Kyle]

Swap mean like, like artists or producers?

[Offset]

Both.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Depending on if the producer make albums. Like metro south side of things make albums. So just cool, do a swap with them where it's like, you do this for me. I got you on the record you want me on. That's how most of us do it though now though, we don't just be. Don't be taxing because don't feel away like I want 150 verse. Especially if they already turned to. So now don't really charge. Probably like international. That's where you catch the future badge, right?

[Kyle]

Also guys, really quick, we have a ton of new full send golf stuff on fullsend.com I'm rocking this sexy one right here. The happy dad polo. The quality is honestly amazing. Hugs the arms, kind of makes you look jacked a little bit, but not too, too tight around the barrel. That's how we designed them. There's a ton of new golf polos. We have golf bags, hats, a ton of different accessories. We also have a ton of full send UFC stuff. Really, really fire clean Collab with the UFC. Go to fullsend.com if you're into golf. I'm telling you, I wear these poles on the course all the time. Our dog just got his balls chopped off. But go to fullsend.com I'm sorry, bro, I honestly don't agree with that. But go to fullsen.com. cop some. I'm sorry, Rio. I love you. Who's the hottest producers in the game right now?

[Offset]

Vinyls, fnz, Oz from Europe. From where you from?

[Kyle]

Yeah, where. What city? You know?

[Offset]

I think Toronto. Toronto? You don't know Oz?

[Kyle]

No, the producer.

[Offset]

Like, a lot of Dre, too. Benny X, Southside Metro.

[Kyle]

Has Boy Wonder ever. You ever done Boy Wonder? I'm good friends with him. He's my boy.

[Offset]

That's my dog. He did say My Grace.

[Kyle]

Okay.

[Offset]

Forgot to name him.

[Kyle]

That's a banger. Boy Wonder has so many good beats.

[Offset]

Yeah, smackers. He just understand music. Like, he understands.

[Kyle]

I looked at his playlist on Spotify. Like, boy one was like, what the.

[Offset]

Crazy, Crazy. And he on text. Like, he had a good reputation. He do his business clean because he could be taxing.

[Kyle]

Yeah.

[Offset]

Just the records he got is. He got number ones. Number ones, Number ones. He ain't doing that, though.

[Kyle]

Did you ever have a beat that you missed out on? Like you had it and you're like, ah, nah. And then it. Like, someone else took it almost.

[Offset]

Almost up on Taste. Oh, yeah. But Tiger, yeah, because I think it was a time. Bad time for Tiger. A lot of people on him. One doing the verse. Like, yeah, supposed to do it, ain't do it. And then I almost think that I did it, bro.

[Kyle]

So was that tied to song?

[Offset]

Yeah.

[Kyle]

So he already did the hook.

[Offset]

Yeah. Taste.

[Kyle]

And then he sent it to you and you were debated not doing it.

[Offset]

I was just, like, doing so much already.

[Kyle]

Right.

[Offset]

And I was like, I heard it one more time. Like, I ain't gonna lie. This beat da got that dope. That's my dogs. I think he's from Canada, too. I'm not sure what city he's from, but I think he's from Canada, too. And when I did it, bro, I'm so happy I did that 13 times. Pregnant or some like that.

[Kyle]

Because I was a club and pop banger.

[Offset]

Right? And pop. It was like a crossover for both worlds.

[Kyle]

Tiger's got some tracks, too. Tiger had some tracks back in the day.

[Offset]

Yeah. He always sneaks some in him. French Montana. The niggas always gonna catch some.

[Kyle]

Yeah, he's a guy that stayed relevant for a while, too, right.

[Offset]

He always catches how to. What.

[Kyle]

How does, like, a producer get your attention? Like, is it possible for, like, an upcoming producer? Like, how would they?

[Offset]

Even with the Internet? Yeah, the Internet helps. Helps with that because.

[Kyle]

Have you ever done some like that?

[Offset]

Because sometimes I listen to a song that's like maybe viral and people doing a lot of dance to it. And I was like, who the make the beat? Then you'll find a producer to the song and connect like that.

[Kyle]

For upcoming producers though, what do you think? What advice would you give to them? Like what. How does a beat catch your ear? Like how long do you. When you're going through beats? Like, how do you do it? Do you just like open a folder and like open photo beat by beat?

[Offset]

But you got 30 seconds out of me.

[Kyle]

Do you listen for four 30 seconds? Or sometimes it'll be like seven seconds.

[Offset]

Next sometimes because you'll just know like hell no. But like 30 seconds because it's always. I'm looking for something that stands out in the beat. I don't like the like. Like it's always something like if like.

[Kyle]

Taste that's right away. Yeah, yeah.

[Offset]

That's like a standout.

[Kyle]

That's like a millisecond, you know, you just hear.

[Offset]

It's a standout sound though throughout the video. It's like make it interesting that Koga got. Let's go, let's go. You can just tell when you hear that like this is the moth. This is the one.

[Kyle]

What else do you like doing outside music?

[Offset]

Playing card.

[Kyle]

Still play cod?

[Offset]

What?

[Kyle]

COD is out right now. I was talking about this the other day with my boys.

[Offset]

Which card is out? Do you know what's up? I play it every day and I don't know, I just play because I play. I play Warzone, so I play Resurgence.

[Kyle]

Okay.

[Offset]

Only that's all I play is research.

[Kyle]

How long you been playing COD? Since what COD.

[Offset]

First one on PS2.

[Kyle]

Cop 4.

[Offset]

That's the first one on PS2. On PS2 is when I fell in love with it. Month. My older brother.

[Kyle]

I started at card COD4 too.

[Offset]

What's the other called? That used to be Halo. I started Halo I with Halo.

[Kyle]

That's Xbox though. Yeah.

[Offset]

Yeah. Like before shooting game like in that same style, but only thing different is this war. But like I was watching Halo, guys best. You ever played Spinner Sale?

[Kyle]

No, I was gonna ask you what's your favorite COD of all time?

[Offset]

6.

[Kyle]

Call 36. See, I don't even know what's going on past MW 3. You remember advanced Warfare when you could like, that's when I stopped.

[Offset]

What's the one when they used to put the little. You could fly up like.

[Kyle]

That's probably Advanced Warfare.

[Offset]

Is it that one? That's my favorite.

[Kyle]

Best caught is MW2. Remember that one with the nukes?

[Offset]

No, I Wasn't playing Tactical nuke.

[Kyle]

You weren't playing that. Oh, MW2 is the best.

[Offset]

That's where you make it.

[Kyle]

You gotta get 25 kills in a row and then you get a tactical nuke and it ends the game. So Cod, what else?

[Offset]

I play Dragon Ball Z2.

[Kyle]

It's a lot of games.

[Offset]

I gotta get the new one, bro. It's a new one that I just seen on the Internet. I need to get that.

[Kyle]

You guys bring that wherever you go, wherever you travel. That's dope.

[Offset]

That got everything on a peacock. Netflix, everything on my. My loaded YouTube TV for the games. I should load outside of that, be on my kids. And music. I like watching movies too though, because I get a lot of inspiration for movies. You take a lot of out of movies and put into music.

[Kyle]

What's your favorite movies of all time?

[Offset]

Minister Society. Because that's just a real out of hoodie movie. The first Friday Dead Presidents. Moonwalker. That's a Michael Jackson movie. Go look it up if you ain't seen it. Oh yeah, the Jackson 5 movie too. Because it's like four hours long. Three. But it show you every step of them getting on. Like when it was poor as.

[Kyle]

Damn, I got room.

[Offset]

You got to see that. It's called the American Dream. Jackson five. It's five. The actress is five. They showed him like from kids to where he start telling them, I don't want to be in the group no more. It's a lot of detail. That's my other. What else? Scarface.

[Kyle]

Classic. You think they'll ever make a movie about like you and your guys? Come up an entire story.

[Offset]

I'm trying to do it.

[Kyle]

That would be crazy. Like a script. Scripted.

[Offset]

Scripted, scripted.

[Kyle]

You got to put the jail scene in with the six chicks.

[Offset]

Gotta do that. Showing the come up. I started seeing the groupie. The groupyism early.

[Kyle]

Yeah, I'm actually interested in this too. So you said you'd never get married again. You think?

[Offset]

No.

[Kyle]

Why not?

[Offset]

It's not for me. No.

[Kyle]

Why not?

[Offset]

I've done it. Had three kids with it. It's like a mission that's been complete.

[Kyle]

How old are you now? 33. I'm 31. So I'm like. I feel like I'd want to get married though one day.

[Offset]

You got experience. You see, Mike, I experienced it. So I've already done it.

[Kyle]

But you'd never want to be like again married, happily ever after. Like this is my chick forever type never.

[Offset]

Everything's temporary.

[Kyle]

So would you recommend marriage?

[Offset]

No.

[Kyle]

Or would you Say, would you tell me, like, yo, don't get married.

[Offset]

Yeah, I'll tell you. Don't get me.

[Kyle]

Don't get married. For what reason?

[Offset]

I would say, unless you're cool with changing your life entirely, you got a partner. That's different. Especially when it's written and it's a real thing. Like, this is part is different.

[Kyle]

Yeah, that's what I think about too. Even getting a girlfriend, it's like, it's such a big commitment how we move.

[Offset]

Like our careers, and it's just hard.

[Kyle]

That's what I mean. I feel like while I'm doing this and like. Like we have this. This is our alcohol.

[Offset]

We just forgot them. Two billion.

[Kyle]

You cool? That's what I'm saying. I think. What?

[Offset]

I'm not moving. Maybe I would say, I wouldn't tell you to get married while you're moving.

[Kyle]

That's what I'm thinking.

[Offset]

Wait till you get that money.

[Kyle]

Because we're doing videos, we're doing streams. You gotta have chicks in the stream, and then you hear it from your girl, like, yo, why is this chick in the stream? Like. And it's just like, you don't want to stress about that. You know what I'm saying? Like, when you're by yourself and single, then your actions only affect yourself. If you have a girlfriend, your actions are now affecting someone else. So once you get rid of that, you're like, yo, my actions only affect myself. And then you can kind of just.

[Offset]

I feel like you stay focused too.

[Kyle]

You stay focused. Yeah, well, a girl can sometimes hold you down too, but then I think they hold you down for a bit and then it becomes a distraction.

[Offset]

Exactly.

[Kyle]

It keeps you away from the partying for a bit, and then you kind.

[Offset]

Of come lazy away from some. You have, like, some parting you have to do in our space.

[Kyle]

What'd you say?

[Offset]

In my space. Like, so I gotta party sometimes. Shut down. They come with the career.

[Kyle]

Yeah. Like, you gotta go to Booby Trap this weekend.

[Offset]

Got to. I'm out. Gotta go out that month. Got to.

[Kyle]

No, I feel that. So what albums out tonight? Big Sally weekend. How do you think. Where do you think this album ranks amongst, like, your albums in terms of your favorites, solo top, favorite solo albums.

[Offset]

It's my solo because I kind of like it usually take the third album to kind of find your bag or you. Your identity. Like, I know a know this Offset song. It was hard to do that because I was coming from a massive group too, so. The first one was before this one, though. I would say the first one, Father. Introduce people to me as a solo act. I kind of got to see. I didn't talk a lot in the group. I didn't talk a lot in the group. I wasn't good at media with the interview. If you go look at interviews, I probably would say two, three things. I haven't talked too much, but now it's like it's my world, my creativity, and I just always want to do better than the last. I don't really get lost in the numbers. I just wanted to influence in the songs to stick. That's it.

[Kyle]

Yeah. Well, I appreciate you, bro. I don't want to take up too much of your time. I know you guys got a busy weekend. Kiari, if you're watching this out now, we're gonna stream that. We'll bump it. Maybe we'll party this weekend too. We'll be in Miami.

[Offset]

Yeah. Come with me, man.

[Kyle]

We might have to see what booby traps about the right way. That's about time. Appreciate you, bro. Offset.

[Offset]

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