Barron Goes CORRUPT and Vivek Faces RACISM at TPUSA!

Summary

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FYPod Episode Summary

Episode: Barron Goes CORRUPT and Vivek Faces RACISM at TPUSA!

Date: October 14, 2025
Hosts: Tim Miller, Cam Caskey
Podcast: FYPod by The Bulwark

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Overview

This FYpod episode dives into the evolving politics of Gen Z, specifically examining:

• Barron Trump’s controversial rise in business and politics, including his thrust into TikTok oversight and involvement in the Trump crypto empire.
• Vivek Ramaswamy’s experience with racism at a Turning Point USA (TPUSA) event as a Hindu Republican.
• Larger themes about Gen Z’s political transformation, youth corruption, right-wing media’s TikTok grab, and the new climate of intolerance in conservative youth politics.
• Listener advice segment on friendships between queer women and straight men.

The episode balances sharp political critique, Gen Z humor, and irreverent banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Barron Trump’s New Power & Crypto Corruption

• Fox News’ Treatment of Barron:
  The hosts lampoon Fox’s breathless coverage of Barron’s social life, highlighting conservative media’s double standards on “grooming” and sexualization.

  • Cam: “It’s like a fucking drag queen reads a bunch of books to 8 year olds at the local library and they’re a groomer… then Fox News is like, we hope Barron Trump, who’s 6’7” and sexy, we hope he lays pipe tonight." (04:00)

• The TikTok Board Appointment Proposal:
  Trump’s former social media manager publicly proposes Barron for a TikTok board seat as the company transitions from Chinese to U.S. control (following a bipartisan divestment mandate).

  • Tim: “The suggestion was that Barron get a board seat, which is preposterous... It’s just in the Trumpian spirit of nepotism.” (08:50)

• American Right’s Social Media Power Grab:
  The hosts express deep concern over TikTok potentially becoming a right-wing propaganda tool, referencing the rapid Murdoch/MAGA movement into youth-oriented platforms.

  • Tim: “The takeover of TikTok by the American right is about the most concerning thing out here… the long-term concern about these guys purchasing this with the intent to use it to propagandize people.” (10:20)

• Barron Trump’s Involvement in Crypto Scams:
  Cam exposes Barron’s role in the Trump family’s crypto venture, World Liberty Financial, with Forbes estimating Barron's unlocked holdings at $150 million (and potentially $525 million including locked coins).

  • Cam: “I didn’t really realize how involved Barron was with this… This 19 year old boy is also one of the ambassadors to World Liberty Financial… Barron’s share alone worth around 150 million.” (15:00)
  • Cam (explaining locked vs. unlocked coins): “Unlocked coins are the liquid, baby… But again, once those locked coins get unlocked, this dude’s worth over half a bill.” (18:26)

• Democrats’ Complicity and Crypto Regulation:
  Discussion of Democratic votes enabling Trump’s crypto operations, dangers of untraceable assets, and connections to global corruption:

  • Cam: “…crypto being untraceable is kind of a really bad thing… this is how fucking cartels and terror organizations are able to move this kind of money around.” (17:52)

• No More Infantilizing Barron:
  Both hosts argue that as an adult and major beneficiary of Trump family grifts, Barron deserves full scrutiny.

  • Cam: “So no more Mr. Nice talking about Barron, okay? This kid is part of a fucking scam and he is part of his father’s authoritarian project and we get to talk about it, Barron.” (20:27)
  • Tim: “Melania is the worst… Melania is fully on board with the authoritarian project.” (19:22)

2. Nepotism & Mediocrity on the Right

• Lack of Talent among MAGA Youth:
  Tim criticizes the “no bench” problem: anyone with “vibes and marketing” (i.e. MAGA posturing) can be elevated, regardless of actual skill or charisma.

  • Tim: “…if you want to have a big job somewhere and you’re 23 right now, probably the best thing for you to do is just pretend like you’re MAGA…” (12:37)

• The Incentives for Young People to Go MAGA:
  Cam reflects on the incentives for youth to feign right-wing zealotry:

  • Cam: “No sauce, no charisma, no intellectual abilities. Like, if you just say the right things… you could have your own floor in Trump Tower by, like, by next year.” (13:02, 13:05)

3. Racism in the Republican Base: The Vivek Incident

• Vivek Ramaswamy’s Run for Ohio Governor and TPUSA Reception:
  Vivek, a high-profile Hindu Republican, faces overt racism while continuing Charlie Kirk’s campus tour after Kirk's assassination.

  • Tim: “If you are a Brown person who is not a Christian running for office as a Republican, the base might not love you as much as you’re expecting.” (27:38)
  • Cam: “A video came out of him basically figuring out something that we probably could have told him…” (27:46)

• Hostile Questions Faced by Vivek:
  The podcast plays a segment in which Vivek must field questions about his Hindu faith and loyalty to “Christian America,” illustrating the intolerance surging among young MAGA activists.

  • Audience Member at TPUSA: “Christian voices should be the main voice of America. And I want to know basically why you seem to be… masquerading as a Christian…” (29:23)
  • Vivek: “I don’t call myself Christian. I call myself a Hindu. I’m not running to be pastor of Ohio. I’m running to be governor of Ohio.” (29:44)

• Contrast with Older GOP Generations:
  Tim and Cam note that, ironically, younger right-wingers are more intolerant and homogenous than prior generations, flipping the conventional “arc of progress.”

  • Tim: “…it’s totally changed now. Like your median 24 year old staff run the campaigns now is MAGA, culture war, TPUSA built, like, trad… That shift I think is very, very clear.” (35:03)

4. Advice Segment: Queer Women Seeking Straight Male Friends

• Listener Asks About Misread Friendship Signals:
  A queer woman (asexual, but not initially disclosed in question) asks how to form platonic friendships with straight men who interpret kindness as flirting.
  • Cam: “It’s okay to very quickly set boundaries…go hard on the friend zone stuff…You could be nice to a dude, like the way that another dude would be nice to a dude.” (38:24)
  • Tim: “Just early in the kind of hang period, just finding an excuse to toss out there that you find penises disgusting is probably the most practical answer here.” (43:44)
  • Cam: “If a dude doesn’t want to be friends with you because you find penises disgusting, you don’t want to be friends with him.” (44:16)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Barron Trump’s Image:
  • Cam: “Zoomers need to start hooking up again. It’s an important topic. It’s good for the fabric of our society.” (04:30)
• On Barron’s Board Prospects:
  • Tim: “I guess Trumpian spirit of nepotism and somebody who has no skills or no ability being able to just… get a job based on vibes and marketing.” (08:50)
• On MAGA’s Youth Mediocrity:
  • Tim: “They have no bench, you know what I mean? Like there’s no talent…” (12:37)
• On Crypto Corruption:
  • Cam: “150 million in Trump fraud scam crypto money. But again, once those locked coins get unlocked, this dude’s worth over half a bill.” (18:26)
• On Melania Trump:
  • Tim: “Melania is one of the worst people in the country. I hate the ‘save Melania’ stuff.” (19:22)
• On the “Arc of Progress”:
  • Tim: “…it’s totally changed now…your median 24-year-old staff [runs] the campaigns now is MAGA, culture war, TPUSA built, trad…that shift I think is very, very clear.” (35:03)
• On Gen Z, Gender & Friendship:
  • Cam: “If you can’t befriend a woman...I don’t think you’re ready to date one.” (42:36)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Barron Trump segment kickoff: 01:51–03:54
• Fox News Barron coverage/sexualization riff: 03:09–04:18
• Barron’s TikTok Board suggestion & analysis: 07:19–10:20
• Expanding on TikTok right-wing takeover dangers: 10:20–11:56
• Crypto scam, Barron’s winnings, unlocked/locked coins explained: 14:12–18:26
• “No more Mr. Nice talking about Barron” monologue: 19:07–20:47
• MAGA talentless youth and incentives riff: 12:37–13:05
• Vivek background, campaign transition, TPUSA event: 23:03–27:03
• Vivek faces racism at TPUSA, extended clip and breakdown: 27:19–31:32
• Discussion of right-wing youth intolerance compared to past GOP: 31:32–36:17
• Listener advice: queer woman/straight men friendship dynamic: 38:00–44:16

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Tone & Style

• Biting, irreverent Gen Z political humor (many explicit lines, swearing, inside jokes)
• Relentless critique of both Trump family corruption and MAGA movement’s hollowness
• Nuanced, empathetic advice and encouragement during the Q&A segment

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For New Listeners

This episode is a timely, unfiltered exploration of how Gen Z politics are warping under the pressures of online culture, dynastic privilege, and radical right capture. From the spectacle of Barron Trump’s rise to the raw exposure of MAGA’s religious racism, Tim and Cam dissect the news with sarcasm, passion, and rare honesty—plus actionable advice for real-life Gen Z dilemmas.

Transcript

[Tim Miller]

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[Cam Caskey]

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[Tim Miller]

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[Cam Caskey]

I think that she and John Fetterman have just horseshoed and replaced each other.

[Tim Miller]

Did like a Freaky Friday.

[Cam Caskey]

Yeah, they did a way too Freaky Friday.

[Tim Miller]

Hey, everybody, I'm Tim Miller.

[Cam Caskey]

And I'm Cam Caskey. We've got a crazy show for you this week. We're going to talk about Barron Trump getting put up for a top position at TikTok. Everybody's least favorite zoomer maybe. And we're going to talk about Vivek Ramaswamy.

[Tim Miller]

We're going to talk about competitive category.

[Cam Caskey]

Vivek Ramaswamy facing some racism, shockingly at the Turning Point USA event. But first, guys, I'm finally going to be in the same location repeatedly. Now I'm not going to be doing fypod from different rooms every single week. I have an apartment. This is a. This is a Polaroid of me and Tim that I like to look at. This is my ticket to the State of the Union in 2019 where I went with Eric Swalwell. Oh, remember that picture that Obama signed and sent to me that I said I lost?

[Tim Miller]

Yeah.

[Cam Caskey]

Found it.

[Tim Miller]

Oh, wow. Let's see. Can we see it? I can't see it back there.

[Cam Caskey]

And then this is just before we do that, this is the cast of Frasier and I got it on ebay and it's autographed, but I feel like it can't be authentic because I got it way too cheap. Or maybe people just don't like Frasier anymore.

[Tim Miller]

I think maybe because you do, you kind of identify as a Niles.

[Cam Caskey]

I am a Niles. Yes. Sherry Niles. So this is my brother Julian and I. Obama said, Cameron, I'm so proud of what you are doing. Signed Barack Obama.

[Tim Miller]

Come on the show. Barack Obama been asking, been inviting you to. If you're really that proud of Cameron, you'd think you'd want to support his endeavors more and come on the podcast.

[Cam Caskey]

Come on. We'd be happy to have you. So before we get into Barron running TikTok, I wanna see what the expert analysts over at Fox News have to say about the matter. Let's take a look. Barron Trump brought a girl home. He brought her back to Trump Tower. He shut the whole floor down at Trump Tower just so he could be alone.

[Tim Miller]

One of his classmates said this.

[Cam Caskey]

He's tall and awkward, but he was.

[Tim Miller]

The thing, the guy, he had a lot of girls running after him.

[Cam Caskey]

Another said, he's a ladies man for sure. He's really popular with the ladies.

[Tim Miller]

He's tall and handsome. A lot of people seem to think he's pretty attractive.

[Cam Caskey]

So imagine a guy brings you back to Trump Tower and the whole floor is shut down. If the guy's a Trump, that I would believe it.

[Tim Miller]

And I know a lot of people.

[Cam Caskey]

Are probably gonna wanna criticize him that.

[Tim Miller]

He'S being a prima Donald, no pun.

[Cam Caskey]

Intended there, but he obviously did for security reasons. The security needed to sweep the floor. They shut down the floor. But, man, this guy's got game. I mean, six foot seven and he's got a whole floor at Trump Tower.

[Tim Miller]

For a freaking date.

[Cam Caskey]

I hope something good came out of that date. I mean, I'm not going to say what.

[Tim Miller]

Something not too good.

[Cam Caskey]

Not too good. He needs to wait.

[Tim Miller]

Homemade dessert.

[Cam Caskey]

Okay. Private chef. The Trump cookie. Yeah, that's what I meant. That's so. It's like a fucking drag queen reads a bunch of books to 8 year olds at the local library and they're a groomer. And then Fox News is like, we hope Barron Trump, who's 6, 7 and sexy, we hope he lays pipe tonight.

[Tim Miller]

And that's playing Ookie Cookie back at Trump Tower.

[Cam Caskey]

God, I forgot about Ookie Cookie. Jesus Christ. Listen, there's some people in our comments who get annoyed with how often we talk about sex stuff on FYpod.

[Tim Miller]

Are there?

[Cam Caskey]

Yeah, dude. There's people who are like, you know, they talk about this quite a Bit. Let me tell you guys something. We're talking about zoomer stuff. Zoomers need to start hooking up again. It's an important topic. It's good for the fabric of our society. And if you want to live in a fairytale land where nobody kisses each other and everybody's just prim and proper, go to Fudgeing Midas Touch. Okay, this is Bulwark we talk about.

[Tim Miller]

Or the Daily Wire. I mean, there are plenty of places for, you know, puritans that are. Yeah, for puritans. Antisexualists.

[Cam Caskey]

You go to fucking Plymouth Rock for all we care. But this is fy pod. We get down and dirty. I want to transition into a very, very strange thing, which is right after Bari Weiss got put in charge of cbs, where there was another weird sexual comment involving virgins. Where there was an article on the Free Press. I don't know if you saw this, about the AI Hollywood actress Tillie Northwood. We'll throw a picture of her up right here. And they said, if you want to watch a virgin, here's a virgin you all can watch. And it's like this AI girl who's supposed to look like 18 or something.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, I did see that. That was Tyler Cohen, who I usually like. On economic matters. We cr. We depart ways oftentimes on cultural matters. But we are comment. Weird thing to post. That's why you want to have an editor, usually on a site. Sometimes you have an old man that is writing for your outlet and says something a little yucky about how he's thinking about how he wants to see virgins on his screen. And you'd hope you'd have an editor there over at the Daily Wire, which I think was supposed to be Barry Wise's job, ostensibly to just kind of protect your writers from things like that. So, you know what? Maybe this is a.

[Cam Caskey]

Maybe this is a cross through the Tilly Northwood version. I actually don't want to call this fucking 01100 line of code. Tilly Northwood. I don't want to give a name to this fucking computer program that sucks water up from the ground. No, this. This fucking robot, it brings to mind what I think we're doing.

[Tim Miller]

Clanker.

[Cam Caskey]

Clanker. I forgot about that. Which is the slur, for those of you who don't know, for robot. This line of code brings to mind. And the article about it brings to mind what I say when people talk to me about Taylor Swift in public, which is like, you don't actually need to have a take on Everything. So when you're thinking about talking about the potential virginity of a computer program that's supposed to look like an actress, maybe just don't say anything like you don't have to write an article. Nobody needs to hear what you have to say about this.

[Tim Miller]

Certainly was the case in this situation. I feel like we sped run through the main topic of the day though, which is Barron Trump.

[Cam Caskey]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was about to say. So Barry Weiss got this top job at cbs. Speaking of people who are unqualified for top jobs.

[Tim Miller]

Oh fuck. I ruined your transition, Cameron. I apologize. We've been doing our best. The people on Reddit have noticed that your skills at running a show have improved and I agree with that. And that's not a criticism. We all, it takes reps and you know, so sometimes when we're doing the show, I've, I've tried to just kind of nudge you, you know, from time to time, like making sure we're staying on course like a good older brother. And I tried to do that there and that was a fail, a total backfire because you had a great transition planned already.

[Cam Caskey]

You faced the results of your own actions. I learned this shit from you, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, Trump's former social media manager, Jack Adventure, proposed Barron Trump getting a top role at TikTok as it comes into US ownership, arguing that the younger Trump's appointment could broaden TikTok's appeal among young users. However, it is not known if his suggestion will come to fruition. This all comes from TikTok being Ellisonified. It's part of Oracle now. I think the Murdochs are in on it. This is because of a bipartisan mandate passed by Congress during President Joe Biden's presidency when which required TikTok's China based parent ByteDance to divest its American assets to avoid a nationwide ban. So now we've Americanized TikTok. Baron being in charge of TikTok, Tim, I feel like that's like a joke we would have said about Trump gaining control over TikTok is like, oh, they're gonna put Barron in charge.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, I mean, I've used that joke about Baron several times in different contexts about Trump's aspiring monarchy. And here it is coming to fruition much quicker than I, even, than I could have imagined though, and he hasn't actually gotten anything yet. We should say the suggestion was that Baron get a board seat, which is preposterous in its own right and kind of in. I guess Trumpian spirit of nepotism and somebody who has no skills or no ability being able to just being kind of granted a job based on vibes and marketing. But I guess that's less bad than actually being in charge of there. My sense for people that are on the boards of these companies that they don't actually do anything to go to meetings and get a paycheck and you know, get to be in the box when, when TikTok purchases the Milwaukee brewers stadium or whatever, you know, and, and then get a, get a box seat when that happens.

[Cam Caskey]

But probably a little more expensive now that we're going to the National League Championship.

[Tim Miller]

Maybe a little more expensive. So anyway, it, it is ridiculous and I think that it is though my serious observation about it is twofold. Number one, the takeover TikTok by the American right is about the most concerning thing out here. And I was we I was with Sam and Sarah when we're in Canada, shout out Canada. And Sam listed like the 10 news items that had happened recently and asked what the most concerning was to us. And both Sarah and I picked the TikTok purchase over, you know, the Comey indictment, a lot of other various things that seem very serious and acute now because just the long term concern about these guys purchasing this with the intent to use it to propagandize people, maybe they'll be too incompetent to figure it out. Maybe the notion that Baron Trump should be involved should give us a little hope on that front. But it's really, it's extremely alarming. And the speed at which the right and the MAGA right really has taken over like major social media and media outlet outlets is extremely hungry. Esque Mr. Monopoly here. Monopoly is back at McDonald's. Register in the McDonald's app so you're ready to get your bag. Two ways to peel for a chance to get your bag physical peels with select items and digital peels with others. To get your bag, play Monopoly at McDonald's.

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[Tim Miller]

I had had dinner with the former ambassador to Hungary last week and we talked about this at length. It's very reminiscent of what. Or really hungry. Yeah. Why, why did I have the dinner with the ambassador to Hungary? Former ambassador?

[Cam Caskey]

I mean, this. I don't know, it feels kind of random.

[Tim Miller]

Well, he's homosexual, so, you know, game off.

[Cam Caskey]

Got it, got it.

[Tim Miller]

But also too, I do feel like there's some lessons we can learn from somebody who spent a lot of time in Hungary and, and I who might be coming on this channel soon. So keep an eye out for that. So anyway, the TikTok concern is my one serious concern. And the other, the other thing is just like the unserious, the hack is just an unseriousness of these guys. Like, they have no bench, you know what I mean? Like, there's no talent. Like, if you want to have a big job somewhere and you're 23 right now, probably the best thing for you to do is just pretend like you're MAGA and like start like shitposting. Because, oh my God, truly, could you.

[Cam Caskey]

Imagine how much fucking money I would make if I went like, oh, you know, I was part of the left and then I went to the Gaza protests and I saw how anti Semitic the left became. So now I'm part of the right and I just regurgitated all the basic talking points.

[Tim Miller]

I mean, you could have your own floor in Trump Tower by, like, by next year.

[Cam Caskey]

No sauce, no charisma, no intellectual abilities. Like, if you just say the right things. I want to cut to a video real quick of a kid that I had like a faux debate with on News Nation who's currently being propped up by MAGA getting invited to the White House. Let's see his delivery style. Hey, everybody. Jackson Gosnell here in Phoenix, Arizona at Remembering Charlie Kirk.

[Tim Miller]

This is the memorial, of course, after.

[Cam Caskey]

That horrific assassination on Charlie Kirk's life. And we're expecting to hear from a lot of people this morning, including President Trump, Vice President Vance, many cabinet members as well. Yeah, you don't need to be good at this if you're doing maga. You just need to say the right things in the right order. And we're going to get to that in a little bit. But I just kind of want to bring up two Major things. You gave your two concerns. I gave. I'm going to give mine number one. Barron Trump is six foot seven and Slovenian and seemingly kind of antisocial. Put a fucking basketball in this kid's hand. Like, you look at what Jokic has been able to do with that towering height and with his, you know, kind of lack of desire to really talk publicly about certain things.

[Tim Miller]

Joker has stronger features though.

[Cam Caskey]

For now. Like, that kid can afford a personal trainer. I'm just saying, like, if you're gonna be the son of a despot and you're not gonna publicly stand against him and lead the anti Trump movement as you should go play basketball. Don't fucking run. Tick tock. But my second thing here is this kind of sent me down a rabbit hole because I feel like we've talked a good amount. I mean, Bulwark has. I don't know if we've covered it too much on this show, but we've talked a good amount about Trump's crypto corruption and how one of Trump's biggest scams compared to how much coverage it's gotten has been the amount of fraud and evil shit he's doing using crypto funds and shit coins and everything. I didn't really realize how involved Baron was with this and how much coin Baron has been able to make off of Trump crypto ventures, but I learned this 19 year old boy is also one of the ambassadors to World Liberty Financial, which is the Trump family's crypto venture. Forbes estimated that the venture has boosted the Trump family fortune by more than $1.5 billion, with Barron's share alone worth around 150 million. So he doesn't need to shut down a floor of Trump Tower for Jesse Waters to talk about him laying pipe. Like, this guy's got $150 million in untraceable crypto money. He's like a cartel.

[Tim Miller]

That is so insane.

[Cam Caskey]

I mean, but that's just, that's just the unlocked coins.

[Tim Miller]

It's like hard to wrap your head around the scale of this and just again, like, it's almost silly to compare it to Hunter Biden and his like poop art or whatever and like how much outrage there was over that and like Fox News. But like, this dude has 150 million. Like, who gave money to World Liberty Financial? Well, for starters, we don't really know everybody, but we know some of the people. There's one guy that I like to bring up from time to time, Justin sun, who's a Chinese national. He put In, I think, 75 million for world Liberty Financial tokens. Initially, he had already been under investigation by the sec, and he's been let off the hook by the Trump administration. So, like, we have a literal bribe from someone from China.

[Cam Caskey]

I thought we were finally going hard on China. I thought we were finally standing up to China.

[Tim Miller]

You would think so. I mean, you would think that, like, you would not want. Even if there is no geopolitical. Because we don't know. But even if there's nothing there, even if he's not, you know, and operative, I have no reason to believe he is. It's like you would just think in general that you want to make rules and laws that would prevent the President, United States and his family from being able to take bribes from. From Chinese criminals. And that is not the case here. And these bribes have been so successful at these fucking tokens that that now, I guess Barron Trump has 100 is liquid to the tune of 150 million already. Crazy.

[Cam Caskey]

There were Democrats. I think there was like over 20 Democrats who voted through a Trump crypto bill.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah.

[Cam Caskey]

That in part, you know, is working to prevent this type of corruption and these, these scams from happening. But the thing is, like, crypto, being untraceable is kind of a really bad thing. I'm sorry to the libertarians watching this, who, if you ever, if you ever want to learn what a libertarian is all about, start talking about age of consent laws, by the way. They'll show you their true colors. But like the untraceable elements here, this is how fucking cartels and terror organizations are able to move this kind of money around. And again, it's like, who's Trump getting money from? Hypothetically, not, you know, I'm not making any accusations here, but hypothetically, if, for example, Qatar wanted to give Trump money. Qatar is this country that finances Hamas, among other things. If they wanted to give him a bunch of money to, I don't know, open an Air Force base on United States soil, they could do it. And obviously Qatar is happy to bribe Trump with jets in public, but the stuff with this crypto thing is just such a mess. And I learned a new thing today, which is the difference between unlocked and locked coins. And it's very important as it pertains to Baron, because Baron's worth, according to Forbes, around 150 million in unlocked coins. But if you factor in the locked coins, that can amount to over half a billion dollars. 525 million. So I was trying to figure out what that was. I didn't have enough time to text Scott Galloway's plucky sidekick, Ed Elson. I did some research. Locked coins are a portion of a crypto project's total supply that are inaccessible to their holders, such as development team, early investors and advisors for a set duration. This is for price stability, long term alignment and planned distribution. Unlocked coins are the liquid, baby. They're the current circulating supply of a cryptocurrency. They can be freely bought, sold and traded on exchanges by anyone in the market. So yes, Baron's worth apparently like 150 million in Trump fraud scam crypto money. But again, once those locked coins get unlocked, this dude's worth over half a bill. So I'm done being nice about Baron. You know, I think there's some people who like to infantilize Baron and Melania and they like to act like Baron and Melania.

[Tim Miller]

Oh, Melania is the worst. Melania is one of the worst people in the country. I hate the, oh, Melania, save Melania. I hate all of that stuff. You get on some kind of sometimes resistance lefties are like, you know, Melania, you can see it in her eyes that she wants out of there. It's like, no, Melania is fully on board with the authoritarian project.

[Cam Caskey]

Yeah. It doesn't mean she's in love with Donald Trump. That doesn't mean she and Donald Trump go to bed next to each other at night and serenade one another. But she's in this for the grift and she's very good at it and she has more agency than some people give her credit for. But we are making an official announcement on the FY pod. We talk about Gen Z issues. This is a Gen Z issue. Barron Trump, first of all, come on the show, you know, if you're so confident, if you're such a baller, dude, come on, fypod, talk to us. We, you know, we're willing to hear you out, will ask you fair questions. But second of all, Barron Trump is no longer first term Baron, who's like a little kid, doesn't know any better. Baron's an adult now, okay? He's in college. And if kids in college can get fucking zip tied by cops, kids in college can be fucking held accountable for rolling along with their parents schemes. So no more Mr. Nice talking about Baron, okay? This kid is part of a fucking scam and he is part of his father's authoritarian project and we get to talk about it, Baron.

[Tim Miller]

We do.

[Cam Caskey]

We're going to hold you accountable.

[Tim Miller]

Couple of quick notes. Just, I just two really quick things one, I, Mr. Pete Hagsett, the weekend Fox and Friends co host, is running our military, was trying to walk back what exactly roll cutter was going to have in the base in Idaho. So we'll see how that turns out. I just felt like that was worth mentioning. The other thing I felt like was worth mentioning. While we're talking about the crypto scam running the administration, there was one Republican we like to do positive reinforcement for, Republicans who do well, who called out Trump for doing favors for his crypto donors recently, and that was Marjorie Taylor Greene on your man Tim Dillon's podcast, Shout Out. Marjorie Taylor Greene. All right, go ahead. That was okay.

[Cam Caskey]

Do not mistake our hate for corruption with any love for Marjorie Taylor Greene. Okay?

[Tim Miller]

I hear good things. I like to point them out. They happen to be coming from Marjorie Taylor Greene's mouth right now. Now, I don't like it any more than you do, but it's worth mentioning.

[Cam Caskey]

I think that she and John Fetterman have just horseshoed and replaced each other.

[Tim Miller]

Did like a Freaky Friday.

[Cam Caskey]

Yeah, they did a way too Freaky Friday. And MAGA has kind of taken John Fetterman, who at first people were saying was just right wing because of how radically pro Israel he was, but now it just seems like he's right wing on everything. He was saying that Trump blowing up boats in, you know, in the Caribbean was actually a good thing and that he was going to support. He was going to support Donald Trump getting the Nobel Prize. And like that. It's like he's really just gotten like, he's gone nuts. He's yelling at school boards in meetings with them. He's getting accused by staffers of screaming like, why doesn't anybody like me? And it's like, bro, get your together. You're so cooked. But anyway, speaking of people who need to get their shit together, Vivek Ramaswamy Vivek.

[Tim Miller]

I mean, you corrected me on Zoran last week, and I didn't look at the comments. Where did people roll? How did that fall on Zoran versus Zoran? Anyway, it is Vivek. I followed Vivek's campaign. I did a little. I was reporting on him and followed him around a couple stops in Iowa. And I got to know Vivek a little better than I wish I would have. So it's pronounced Vivek.

[Cam Caskey]

For those of you who don't know, Vivek Ramaswamy ran for president in the 2023 Republican primary. And for those of you who don't know, in 2023, there was a Republican primary that included several debates to which Donald Trump did not show up because he did not have to. This was Ron DeSantis, this was Doug Burgum. This was Tulsi. No, Tulsi didn't run as he did not run.

[Tim Miller]

No. Nikki Haley was in there for a little while. Chris Christie, the big boy, was in there for a bit. Yeah.

[Cam Caskey]

So those debates were really interesting. And everybody just kind of knew Trump was going to come in and steamroll everybody. And Vivek was one of the people in the Republican primary who was all about Trump, super pro Trump and everything. And he would just regularly have to answer the question, if you love Trump so much, why are you running? And his thing that he kind of jumped to every time was something that a bunch of Zoomer candidates are doing. Matt Post, who we just had on the show, is better than this. He didn't pull this bullshit. But there's some Zoomer candidates, like this kid Liam Al Kind who's running in New York, whose whole thing is, I'm the next generation. I'm young. I'm the next generation. I'm young. And it's like, okay, shut the fuck up. What are your policies? And that was Vivek. Vivek was like, donald Trump is the greatest president we've ever had. And I know he's running again, but you should vote for me because Donald Trump should hand the torch to pass the torch to the next generation. But Mr.

[Tim Miller]

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[Tim Miller]

He was the co captain of Doge for a while.

[Cam Caskey]

He was the co chief, I think, like right when it got announced. And then immediately they were like, no. And I imagine Elon, who I feel like we don't talk about anymore, ever, Elon Musk, who has accused Donald Trump being in the Epstein files and then was seen being very friendly with him at Charlie Kirk's funeral. I imagine he was just like, okay, I don't want to deal with this Vivek guy. Like, I know that Trump, you want to reward your allies and your friends, but I'm not fucking doing this. He's running for governor in Ohio. And I want to show you all a little peek into what Vivek, into how he launched.

[Tim Miller]

We require a leader here at home.

[Cam Caskey]

Who will revive our conviction in Ohio. And that is why today I am honored to announce that I am running to be the next governor of a great state at the heart of the greatest nation known to mankind. The state where I was born and raised.

[Tim Miller]

Just in case you were wondering how.

[Cam Caskey]

Corva and I raise our two sons, today, a state whose best days are still ahead, I am honored to announce my candidacy to serve as the next.

[Tim Miller]

Governor of the state of Ohio. I don't like his haircut very much and I would like to see the long form birth certificate. And I do think that Ohio can do better than Vivek. For my. Are my initial reactions. And I hope that our Ohio listeners can. Can do their. Do their best to try to rally around someone better than Vivek.

[Cam Caskey]

Vivek has been facing the consequences of his own political party. After Charlie Kirk's assassination, there was a slew of Republicans who announced that they were going to be completing Charlie Kirk's tour. The Turning Point Campus tour.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah.

[Cam Caskey]

Charlie Burke was on when he was murdered. The different Republicans have stepped in at different stops. We'll throw the schedule up on screen right now. I don't really remember who it was, but one of them was Vivek. And he. A video came out of him basically figuring out something that we probably could have told him, which is, if you are a Brown person who is not a Christian running for office as a Republican, the base might not love you as much as you're expecting. This is what I say about the potential JD Vance candidacy in 2028.

[Tim Miller]

Like, is JD a non Christian Brown person?

[Cam Caskey]

No. But there's so many fucking, like, racist people of this base. And this man has brown children and a brown wife. And a lot of people in MAGA can excuse that while he's being propped up by Trump as Trump's guy. But come 2028, obviously he doesn't have the sauce. Obviously he doesn't have the charisma and the energy and things like that. But also like the Nick Fuentes. Right. Which you're gonna need if you're gonna be a successful Republican in 2020. You're gonna need those racists. They're not gonna put up with this. Let's take a look at what Vivek saw when he went to go continue Charlie Kurt's legacy. Jesus Christ is God, and there is no other God. He's part of the Holy Trinity. And any other God is a demon, and it's false. How can you represent the constituents of Ohio? Okay, well, if he's saying that the other gods are demons, doesn't that kind of mean that he's, like, acknowledging that they exist? You can't be a demon if you don't. Never mind. Keep going.

[Tim Miller]

I was just gonna say maybe. I think he thinks it's sort of like saying Vivek's a Satanist, I guess.

[Cam Caskey]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I feel like this kid probably can't even name any Hindu gods, whether that's Brahma, the creator, Vishnu, the preserver, Shiva the destroyer, Ganesh, the one with the elephant head. Let's keep going. Coming from a different culture, different religion than those who founded this country, those.

[Tim Miller]

Who grew this country, built this country.

[Cam Caskey]

Made this country the beautiful thing that it is today.

[Tim Miller]

What are you conserving? You are bringing change.

[Cam Caskey]

I'll be 100% honest with you.

[Tim Miller]

Christianity is the one truth.

[Cam Caskey]

Christian voices should be the main voice of America. And I want to know basically why you seem to be. And I don't mean to be horribly offensive, but why you seem to be masquerading as a Christian familiar with the Ten Commandments.

[Tim Miller]

You call yourself a Hindu, but you also call yourself Christian.

[Cam Caskey]

I don't call myself Christian. I call myself a Hindu. I'm not running to be pastor of Ohio. I'm running to be governor of Ohio. And I didn't run to be pastor of America. I ran to be president of the United States of America. What's your faith?

[Tim Miller]

I'm a Christian follower of Jesus.

[Cam Caskey]

Great. Do you believe in the. In the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? I think. I think a lot of people here do.

[Tim Miller]

So.

[Cam Caskey]

And. And that doesn't make you a polytheist, does it?

[Tim Miller]

Probably not, no.

[Cam Caskey]

Great. And so in my faith, I believe there's one true God. He resides in all of us and he appears in different forms, but it's one true God. So I'm an ethical monitor.

[Tim Miller]

Ethical, monogamous.

[Cam Caskey]

That's the way I would describe my faith. Do you think it's inappropriate for someone who's a Hindu to be, say, a U. S. President?

[Tim Miller]

No, I think it's. No.

[Cam Caskey]

Well, be honest.

[Tim Miller]

Isn't Hinduism because you're an Indian?

[Cam Caskey]

I can ask yourself that.

[Tim Miller]

Hinduism believes in Shiva and what is it?

[Cam Caskey]

I got like three more than he did. God. I forgot. I forget. Right. Krishna, who's you're thinking of?

[Tim Miller]

Yeah, Christian. But isn't Charlie Kirk's organization founded on Christian values as well? And isn't the United States of America also, you know, based on what prostitution? Is it based on. Based on how those values are? Wouldn't that contradict what your beliefs are?

[Cam Caskey]

Like I said, I'm not here to justify my faith to you any more.

[Tim Miller]

Than you are to me, but what.

[Cam Caskey]

I do share is the value set this country was founded on. And I think that it's really important that we not reinvent the founding of this country and what it was actually all about. Welcome to the Republican party background swami. Like, that's, that's how things are now. Like, there's no room for someone who is trying to like, be a diverse voice. They've said no, they've said that's not going to happen.

[Tim Miller]

There is some truth to that. At the younger level. It's weird that we have like, kind of reversed what was sort of the common conventional wisdom for a long time, which is that, like, each younger generation is like, more accepting in some ways. In the last. It's not like they don't have any racism or our sexism or homophobia in the younger generations, but that, you know, that there was progress, There was an arc of progress, if you will. And that is like, I totally been inverse now in Republican activist politics. Like, Vivek is probably. Would probably be fine and could maybe still win an Ohio primary right now. I think he probably still could because you would win on the back of boomers whose, like, brains have been fried by fox and like, say what you want about Fox, but it's not really doing, like, there's a little bit of Christian nationalism stuff here and there, but it's not really doing, like, any Nick Fuente style, you know, racial and, racial and white and Christian identity politics overtly Right. Like there's, there's some of it in the subtext of Fox a lot of times and you have a guest who does it. But like, Fox is big, like corporate, right wing, magazine establishment.

[Cam Caskey]

I mean, this is Turning Point. And Charlie Kirk said like on a hot mic that black women do not have the brain power to be judged.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah. I mean, it's, he was like, he listed the four black women. But yeah. And Charlie Kirk would say, and this is, I guess my point. I again, I've been to all the TPUSA rallies and I spent a lot of time watching Fox. I understand the difference. Like that, like, Charlie Kirk was overtly about America being a Christian nation and wanting to promote Christianity and there would be like religious revivals that would be tied to his events. And my point is that like, there is the, the previous generation of Republicans, like, they kind of liked having token people from other religions and races. Right. Like, there was a desire for that. And so I feel like Vivek could still be okay on the backs of like old boomers who have Fox brain, who are just happy that he's out there, like saying whatever the Magna talking points are.

[Cam Caskey]

And he does have the Trump stamp. Like, he does.

[Tim Miller]

He's a Trump stamp. Yeah. So. And that's kind of all you need. Like, the problem is like the trajectory we're on. Like, to me, what this tells me more about is, is the concerning trajectory of the right less than like that Vivek is not politically viable in the moment because, you know, 19 year old racists are not going to be really the key men in Ohio governor primaries probably, but they are going to be very influential and as leaders of right wing political organizations in the coming years. Does that make sense?

[Cam Caskey]

Yes, I see that. I don't know the voter demographics of Ohio too well, but I do feel you. Before we go, I have two quick things. Number one.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah.

[Cam Caskey]

Was that what you saw when you're talking about the younger people in the Republican Party being more accepting? Was that how you saw the gay stuff when you were working with the Republicans? Like, were the younger Republicans chiller about that?

[Tim Miller]

I mean, again, yeah, look, I just think this is a very, this is very relevant to the topic of the show. Like millennial young Republicans. Like, we're speaking in broad strokes here, obviously. Right. There were obviously evangelical millennials that were very anti gay. I certainly saw, dealt with and saw homophobia among my peers, like in Republican politics, no doubt. But like your median Republican staffer who is 22 in 2005, your median political.

[Cam Caskey]

Staffer, period is gay.

[Tim Miller]

So. Yeah, right. But I was gonna say they were like, they fit like the. I am fiscally conservative, socially liberal and strong on national defense. Like that, like they'd have a blue blazer on and khakis. Like that was like your, your median Republican staffer in 2005. Right. And so, you know, and they probably wouldn't have what you'd consider progressive social values now, but they're generally chill about gay stuff and like you know, not, not culture warriors in any meaningful sense. That has totally changed now. Like your median 24 year old staff run the campaigns now is MAGA culture war TPUSA built like trad and very, you know, and, and maybe weak on like, like wants us to not get involved in wars. You know, once, once non interventionism. They're America first. They're not. They're anti trans big time. Maybe a little anti gay too. You know, like. And so that shift I think is very, very clear. And I think, I guess I'm just saying if Vivek had come to speak to a college Republican event in 2005, would there have been a racist dude or two there? Yes. Would there have been 20? Like, would it have been the whole room? Like, no. You know, and I. That, that is just like a real shift that's happened among young Republicans.

[Cam Caskey]

That's a great point. I'm glad I asked that question.

[Tim Miller]

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[Tim Miller]

Ooh, that's tough. Could you go first? I want to hear your answer to this one first. That's a tough question.

[Cam Caskey]

Yeah, I have a feeling that this is tough and this is like a completely reasonable question to ask. And your experience, I'm sure, is shared by very, very many women. And I'm sure there are many women who have thrown in the towel and said, okay, you know what? I'm not even gonna fucking bother. Like, every dude I'm being nice to thinks I'm being flirty, and I'm a very insecure person. So if there's somebody that I want to be flirty with who's being nice to me, my brain immediately starts making the excuses that they're not interested in me and that I ought to cool down. And I've misread signals in both directions. But I would say that it's okay to very quickly set boundaries. And I think that I don't know how exactly I would signal that you're not interested that way because you can't, like, no homo your way out of talking to a dude you want to be friends with. But I think that, like, you can go hard on the friend zone stuff. And if you talk to a dude in kind of a bro y way, There might be a chance he's able to read it a little bit more clearly. You could be nice to a dude, like the way that another dude would be nice to a dude, even just in the beginning. And I think that there's certain things that could be taken as signals that you're not flirting. And if you sort of share, like, if you share certain perspectives on things and talk about certain topics that are generally considered extremely unsexy and unflirty and things like that, there's a chance you're able to send that signal. But I do encourage you to experiment with that and see what works for you. And just keep being nice and trying because you will make straight male friends who aren't taking it that way and who can be normal. And I encourage you not to let your experiences so far make you throw in the towel because you'll meet some nice guys. What do you think?

[Tim Miller]

I guess I have two thoughts. My first thoughts kind of a question for you, and then I'll give my. My answer to the questioner. Like, it is obviously very common for, like gay men to have women friends, fruit fly or whatever you want to call them, that is, you know, and that their relationship is based on kind of gossiping and like mutual relationship advice and stuff. And now you know that in Gen Z there are a lot more kind of different flavors of queer and like, a lot more people are open about their sexuality and stuff. I do wonder if there is not an opening. I think it's cool that this young woman wants to be like, hey, I want to have guy friends, like, hang out with them. And I think that a lot of these guys, particularly shot more shy type straight guys, could probably benefit from having like a hot lesbian friend to like, help give them advice.

[Cam Caskey]

And like, this person actually identifies, this lady actually identifies as asexual.

[Tim Miller]

Asexual. Yeah.

[Cam Caskey]

Left that out because I didn't want it to be about that. So it's me who left that out. I wanted to.

[Tim Miller]

Okay. I want to make sure I didn't miss that. Okay. A hot ace friend, you know, that I can sort of, you know, be there for them in that way, but you don't see it as much. And maybe there's just something about, like, I don't know, is there a mana for Mars women, for Venus element of this, that it's just like hard for that to work the other direction. Like, what do you think? Like, why is it so common one way and not the other?

[Cam Caskey]

I think that this speaks to something we talked about recently on the Show, I think it was during a guest segment where nice guys have been conditioned by the MeToo era to not approach women because women were talking about how many creepy dudes approach them. And guys who are considerate of how women feel said, okay, great. I'm not going to put the women in that position. But the dudes who are inconsiderate said, I don't give a shit. I'm approaching them anyway. And therefore, women were dealing with, like, a disproportionate amount of weird dudes because it's the dudes who don't care about how they're feeling. But, I mean, it's the first piece of advice I give to any dude who asks me how to be charming and compelling to women.

[Tim Miller]

Not.

[Cam Caskey]

Not that I am, by the way, but any dude who asks me, like, how do I pull? How do I get chicks to like me and everything, I'm like, go be friends with a bunch of them first. Like, if you can't befriend a woman, if you can't have women in your life who are just your friends who mean something to you, you're. I don't think you're ready to date one. Because we're so conditioned in this society to look at men and women as these very, very different things. And of course we are different. I'm not, like, in that, like, radical part of Woke where I'm like, actually, we're the same exact thing. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. Two things can be true. We could be capable of being the same, but not inherently the same. And I just think, you know, you do have to make those efforts to befriend, like, it doesn't even need to be a lesbian woman that you're friends with. I know that's not where you were suggesting, but it's like, you should have female friends. And I think it's like a huge green flag to women you're talking to, by the way, when they see that you, like, just hang out with women sometimes and, like, can't be cool with them. And I think that that's something that's important.

[Tim Miller]

Yeah. All right, my final. My. Here's my answer to the questioner. My practical advice to the questioner. I think that just early in the kind of hang period, just finding an excuse to toss out there that you find penises disgusting is probably the most practical answer here. Just throw it out there. Maybe even apropos of nothing, sometimes just throw it out there early in the. In the friendship courtship phase and. And see if that might, you know, kind of tamp down any, any concerns.

[Cam Caskey]

And you know what, that's a great piece of advice because if a dude doesn't want to be friends with you because you find penises disgusting, you don't want to be friends with him. Like you're dodging a bullet. I remember there was a girl that I was like, I actually had an experience just like this. There was a girl I was having a really engaging conversation with. Similar politics was really hype about that. Like, and she was so cool and so fun, but she had a haircut that made me go, okay, this is a gay woman's haircut. Like if you had just read the log of our conversation with each other and you did not see a picture of her, you'd be like, oh, this is so clearly flirting. But she had a gay girl haircut. And I ended up doing a bit of gay vestigating and talking to a couple mutuals of ours and I went, oh, she's gay. That removes so much pressure from me because now I just get to chat and not like wonder what's going on behind it. And we have since been very good friends. Everybody, thank you for joining us for another FY pod like and subscribe down below and we'll be seeing you soon.

[Tim Miller]

Bye Bye.

[Cam Caskey]

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