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A
How would you describe your style, Tim?
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Exactly what he's gonna wear? I usually just wear Canadian tuxedo and pearls and sometimes a flat brim hat.
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A
Flat brim hat particular.
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It's kind of like butch and bashful kind of thing. Like, it's kind of like a sport hat and pearls. This is good material. Are we recording? We can just do a cold open with that. I'm Tim Miller.
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C
And I'm Cam Caskey. And today we're gonna be interviewing somebody who I've known since somewhere two thirds of the way into puberty. Mr. Matt Post, who is a Yale law guy. Charming.
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A
Oh, no.
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C
Who I've known for seven years, who is running for state delegate in the great state of Maryland. What's up, baby?
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A
That's true. Thanks for having me, Cam.
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B
And Tim, are you a zoomer? I am zoomed.
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A
Firmly a Zoomer. I'm 26 years old.
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B
Okay. Wow. You're running for office as a 26 year old?
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A
I am.
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B
Do you feel like you have the experience to kind of go around the Maryland legislature with all of these very distinguished individuals, you know, who have accomplished so much in their lives, who are so serious? All of our legislators. You're not blown away by the other legislators. You don't have imposter syndrome.
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A
You know, I think that a governing body needs all kinds of different experiences. And the kind of experience that is missing right now from the statehouse is people who have grown up as part of the mass shooting generation and, you know, grown up watching the sea levels rise and our rights rolled back in the unique sense of urgency that comes from that. So that's the experience of the fierce.
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B
Urgency of now, if you will.
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A
Yeah. Yes. It's never been fiercer.
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B
Do you know about the fierce urgency of now, or are you too young to know about that?
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A
I know that as an expression.
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B
I was Obama 08. I feel so old.
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C
Tim's greatest enemy, Obama 08. So, Matt, I was getting ready.
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B
Frenemy.
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C
I was getting ready to learn about your policies and I looked you up on Google and the first map post who comes up, I'm sure you know this is the Internet movie Database. Screenwriter who worked on the TV show Dave.
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A
Yeah. A Viner.
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C
A Viner.
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A
I'm very familiar with his vines.
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C
Do you know about Vine?
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I don't know about Vine.
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C
I don't fucking know.
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B
Crushed vine.
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A
I have a lot to say about Vine.
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C
Listen, no, hate to map post other map posts, but I feel like he just doesn't have enough Hollywood credits to appear.
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B
I don't know if I know the TV show Dave, though.
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C
It's Fuck, it's Lil Dicky playing.
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B
Oh, it's Lil Dicky. Oh, I do know that. I watched that show.
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A
Yeah.
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B
What did he do? I watched it. What did he do on Lil Dicky?
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C
Well, you can ask other Matt posts, but the point is, I don't think he has enough credits to beat the politician.
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A
I won't take this. I won't take this. I love Matt Post. I have nothing but good things to say about Matt Post.
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C
Have you talked to your campaign team? Like, how do we appear before other Matt posts on Google?
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A
I think that might just be your Google algorithms. I feel like in Maryland, if you look at matpost, I might be up there.
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B
You thought about doing like, Matthew?
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A
I've thought about Matthew. I've thought about Matthias. I've considered Marty.
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B
Oh, really?
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A
I considered Mart is an even shorter shorthand.
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B
But what about 1T? What about Matt with 1T? 1T. I always get the kind of heebie jeebies when there's a Matt with one T that makes me feel heard of, that there's an aesthetic. You've never seen a mat with one.
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C
T. I'm glad I haven't.
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B
I know a couple. Yeah, it's uncomfortable.
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A
Yeah. It's not any worse than Cam with two M's. Cam I or Tim with two M's.
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C
I couldn't imagine. So I've got some fun policy stuff, and then we're gon talk about some men's issues because we got a bunch of dudes here. That's true.
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B
And I understand that you're heterosexual. I heard that's what you got here. I was excited to hear about that.
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A
The rumors are true.
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B
Heterosexuality.
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C
I figured we have one of the few men who has not kissed a man that we've had on the show. And we can do sort of like a Queer Eye for the state legislature guy.
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B
Okay, great. I'll take it.
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A
We're just talking about style. People have referred to me as an Old Navy mannequin before, so I can use all the help I can.
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C
You've got too much personality.
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B
We just need some heterosexual males with bad style who just love boobs. Like, that's what they need. Somebody who dress. I don't know.
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A
I don't know about bad style.
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B
Can't dress and loves boobs. More of that in the den party, I think.
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C
Well, I think your healthcare policies are gonna be very helpful for people who are fighting breast cancer. So loving boobs is actually a very positive Thing, good spin. That's my PR comm strategy. So I wanna talk about some policy things before we get to dude stuff. But beforehand. This is from the Tim Miller school of having podcast guests. Let's get to know the real you.
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A
Sure.
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C
Who is the real Matt Post. I don't want you your time doing that school shit. You can do that after. But like let's go back to how your ID and your ego and your superego formed. What makes the DNA of a map? Post thought.
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Yeah, I come from, I think like a lot of Jews family came over in the early part of the 20th century to Brooklyn. Public institutions, public schools, took them in, lifted our family out of poverty, made a middle class life possible in this country. And so I was never allowed to forget that as a kid I met.
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C
You grandparents also didn't let you forget that the Dodgers moved to la.
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A
Yeah, you know, they didn't really.
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B
Where was this where you were growing up? Jewish middle class in Maryland.
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A
So I've lived in Maryland my whole life. But when the ancestors first came, great grandparents and grandparents, it was to Brooklyn.
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B
Got it.
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A
And you know, growing up and do.
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B
You think, are you involved at all? I don't know if you saw that Candace Owens is kind of a medium now and she was speaking to Charlie Kirk through the death and she decides that he's been betrayed by the Jews. And I was one. I don't know where you. Do you think your family was involved in that? Your ancestors?
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A
You know, my ancestors maybe sold Charlie Kirk's ancestors a fish and maybe they're doing that in the spiritual realm. I just bring up that background to say growing up where I did in Maryland, you see that the promise of public institutions is not fulfilled. And so have always just been interested in doing the hard work of making government actually the great equalizer for people.
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B
What table were you at in the cafeteria though? Is what we were really asking. Were you with the jocks, the nerds, the freaks, drug kids?
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A
I mean look at me here. You don't get here without being a big dweeb.
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C
But like debate or Model UN or like help us out.
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A
Yeah, I didn't really do that stuff. You know, I liked Minecraft, I liked Team Fortress 2. I ran cross country because I have no hand. Eye coordination.
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B
Yeah. Cross country is where they funnel all of the dudes who like want to do a sport but have no skills.
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A
Yeah. And trust me, I want. I tried everything. Baseball, soccer.
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B
I tried to funnel meet across country as well, but I just decided to do Model UN and Model Instead, you've got the shape. I did one run across country. I was like, fuck this. I'm gonna pretend like I'm gonna do it for a couple more weeks, smoke weed behind the school instead until my mother figures out that I'm not actually a cross country team.
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C
Yeah, well, I could tell you another thing Mr. Matpost cut to me. I could tell you another thing Mr. Matt Post was doing in high school, because Matt Post and I crossed paths for the very short amount of time after the shooting at my high school that I remained in high school before I dropped out, I saw Matt deliver a speech, I don't remember where I saw it on social media. And when we were choosing who was gonna speak at the March for Our Lives, which many people are saying is one of the biggest demonstrations publicly in United States history, you should decide yourselves when we were deciding who was gonna speak.
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B
Have we ever done a picture back to back of the Trump inauguration, one with March for Our Lives? Have you ever done a meme?
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C
We're gonna cut to a speech that I saw Matt give. Do you know if you were 17 or 18? Not at the march, but the one I was 18. I think Matt was 18. I mean, I mean, just became an adult and I saw him speak and I thought, two things. Number one, we need this guy to speak at the march. Number two, shit, if I cooked like him, our movement would be in a much better spot. Let's take a look at 18 year old Matt Post.
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We will not sit in classrooms with armed teachers. We refuse to learn in fear. We reject turning our schools into prisons. We will accept nothing less than comprehensive gun control. And if it's what it takes, we will shame our national policymakers into protecting us. Not just in schools, but in churches, movie theaters, on the streets. And the communities of color which are disproportionately devastated by the sickness of gun violence. The lawmakers who fail to support us, those who look for every answer to our nation's gun problem, but the guns themselves will be complicit in every death that comes after. To every politician sitting in Congress working behind us, you get to decide who lives. And so this is not a partisan issue for us. There's nothing cosmetic about life or death. This is about guns and it's about our morality as a country. When the commander chief solution to this country's gun problem is more guns, you know, we have a moral problem in this White House.
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C
I mean, come on, folks. So from there, I imagine you.
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B
Where was that? Can you give me a little color.
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C
On that, I feel like it was Maryland.
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A
Yeah, it was outside or was in front of the Capitol. It was the day, a couple weeks before the March for Our Lives. There was a big walkout across the country, including of the schools in where I'm from, Montgomery county, Maryland, in D.C. and we sat with our back to the White House for 17 minutes and then walked to the Capitol to deliver remarks.
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B
How did the Minecraft cross country kid get chosen for that role if you weren't on debate team?
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A
Yeah, I had always been involved in student organizing and student advocacy and got elected to the school board in my hometown with 43,000 votes when I was 17. And so I was serving on the school board at the time and was there representing.
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B
See, that's my feeling as an interviewer. When I was asking where you were in the cafeteria, you didn't bring up the fact that you were on the school board. Well, that was torture out there. You're with the grownups, you know, because.
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C
When I think of the parents going extremely nuts and the Moms for Liberty type shit at the school boards, I feel like that was kind of a post 2020 thing. But did you have nutbag parents coming in and screaming at you and being like you're just a teenager?
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A
I don't think. You know, I wouldn't call anyone a nutbag. But I did see early, everyone has their. You know, we live in a colorful world.
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B
We do.
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C
When Obama was talking to us in the March for our Lives era, we had like a Skype set up with Obama in Parkland at the Marriott. And he called them Looney Tunes.
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B
Yes, Looney Tunes.
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C
So you don't need to call people Looney Tunes. But hypothetically, if there were Looney Tunes, did you see them often?
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A
I mean, I was seeing early signs of the rage that I think bubbled over in 2016. And, you know, what were they dealing.
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B
With, like, in your. In the local setting?
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A
On the school board, I fought to make Eid El Fitr the Muslim holiday, a day off, as we do for Jewish holidays.
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B
Oh, boy.
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A
So there was some pushback around that. Some stuff around Sharia law.
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B
You were pushing for Sharia law in the schools in Maryland.
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A
Well, this was the funny thing to be a Jew pushing for this policy. But I had understood what it meant to not have to choose between my faith and going to school as a student. And then something that caused a lot of controversy was a policy around deconcentrating poverty in our school system. Montgomery County Public Schools is huge. Over 100,000 students and tons of schools. And so just by little tweaks in the boundary lines, you can integrate schools essentially without requiring people to spend longer on buses. And I didn't realize it at the time, but this was the first time rail of American politics.
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B
Interesting. Yeah. So then, because you're the school board dork, they were like, we figure you should be the representative to talk at this thing. Or were there several speeches?
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A
Yes, lots of different student leaders from around the county, around the country.
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B
You stood out just because you cooked so much.
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A
Yeah, well, it's interesting. The microphones weren't really working, and so I had to scream the whole speech. And I think this was particularly compelling. And, you know, I think it caught on because I did feel, as I do now, such genuine rage and despair about the lack of inaction. And I think that that resonated with a lot of people in this country who are just fed up.
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C
You can't manufacture authenticity. If you're a person running for office that's watching this, please take my message very clearly. People see right through that shit, Especially in the social media era, where you get to see people from so many different angles. It's not like you're just going on controlled TV appearances where you can tip your. Some little personal stuff here and there. You can't fake it. You either mean what you say and you say what you mean, or you don't. And I think people can see right through that these days. But Matt and his speech were the only ones. I was so hot, you know, I felt like hot shit. I thought that I was so good at politics. I was 17 and people were listening to what I had to say. And I thought I was just so good at it. You were the only person who made me jealous during that era where I went like, oh, his delivery is too good. As a matter of fact, I suppose I'll have him speak at the march, but it will be too good and make me look worse.
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B
But we can couple spots between. Did you put some bad speakers between you and him so people can.
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C
I don't remember who delivered and who didn't. Cause the other thing is, like, when you're a young person speaking about really hardcore shit, one day you'll give the best speech you've ever given in your life. I'm sure you've experienced this. And then the next day you walk off stage and you're like, man, I did not have it today. Like, I did not have the sauce.
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B
And still happens for olds, too. I'm wondering, you mentioned that you're still Pissed. Yeah, it's different. It's been what, nine years since that speech? Give or take eight. Seven years. Seven. Seven years. 20.
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18.
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Cam, you can interject, Cam, if you think I'm misrepresenting you, but you're a little world weary by the whole gun, you know, gun rights fight and, and sometimes feel like this is hopeless or maybe that there's nothing you have less hope maybe. Is that fair?
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Yeah. I think for me the big thing is when we were first organizing, at least around the time we met, gun control was a matter of seeing what we could get from Republicans. That was the big thing is could we get these Republicans to bite pie in the sky on an assault open span? Could we at least get these extreme risk protection orders? Could we at least get red flag laws? What can we get from the Republicans? And now, from what I understand of the gun violence prevention space, a lot of it is like, what can we get the Democrats, Democrats to keep pushing on? Cuz I think so many people see it as a losing issue now. But to ask the question I think Tim was leading to like, where are you at on the Hopium versus Copium stage of gun violence prevention?
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Yeah, I mean, I am still pissed. I'm pissed at Republicans and I certainly am also pissed at Democrats who are willing to throw away this issue and not talk about it, not push it, because it's out of the news. I think the power of March for our lives in 2018 and the power really of young people in any movement is the ability to see that things do not have to be the way they are, because that's the way they have always been. And so I refuse to allow myself to become numb to the losses, to the stagnant policies, to the lack of progress, because I think you have to have that fire in you that things are still possible or you will give up and join the crowd of this is too hard. Let's focus on other things. Let's focus on the immediately practical or let's accept that there's nothing that can be done. I reject that entirely, fundamentally, and I think something that helps hold on to that hope that change is possible is looking at the state level where enormous progress has been made. Since 2018, over 300 gun safety laws have been passed around the country and we've lost ground in some states. But in blue states before, including in Maryland, where universal background checks did not pass until the Parkland shooting, until there was that enormous surge of political will. And so the state level is where we're gonna continue Chipping away, continue making progress, and hopefully when we do regain power at the federal level, we'll be replicating some of the successful laws that we're implementing at a state level.
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C
Well, in terms of stuff on which you're hardcore, I was going through your website, which is. Go to mattpost or whatever. Mattpost.com mattpost for md.com mattpostformd.com Just even if you're not interested in Matt, which you should be, by the way, just to see the web design because it's really good. I was very impressed. I wanted to talk about a couple three specifically of the issues that you want to go hard on. The first thing is a lot of exciting stuff on ice. You want to ban the fucking masks, ban school based police officers from collabing with the ICE thugs, and restrict access to schools, courthouses, hospitals and churches. Where do you see your voters on the ICE stuff? Are they as pissed as you are? Is this gonna be a matter of trying to get them to lock in?
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Yeah, I mean, I think all you have to do is watch the news and see the emergence of a secret police force, a Gestapo in the United States to be upset and angry. And even if you think, as I'm sure plenty of people do in this office, in Maryland, in the country, that we should have immigration enforcement, we should have some level of immigration enforcement, there is nothing American about masked thugs throwing people into the back of unmarked vans and driving away, throwing American citizens into the back of vans and then shipping them off to who knows where. So I think across the board people feel that the masks are unacceptable and just something that we should use every lever of power that we have to.
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B
Fix, don't you think? Why have Dems been such pussies on this? And it's kind of changing a little bit. But like, I just, I was just like right before we got in, I was kind of scanning through these clips of like Rogan talking about this. And like Rogan feels like he is tougher on the masks than a lot of the ICE guys. A lot.
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C
And to be clear, by the way, Joe Rogan being tough on masks can mean two different things. It can mean in 2020 him saying that we should not protect people from COVID Right now we're talking about the ice goons.
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B
Excuse Joe Rogan for consistency. He didn't like N95s. He also doesn't like ice dudes in masks. He's against masking. Something to be said for that.
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I see a coalition.
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Has west been good on this. I just like it does feel like this should be a fight that people should be taking on.
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A
Yeah, I mean, I agree. I think, look, there is a concern at, at the state level, and this is true across the country, that we do not want to provoke the administration to come in and really ramp up enforcement and intimidation or to cancel funding for state projects. But my view is that approach to rising authoritarianism, of rolling over and playing dead has never worked in history. This is not something that we can just sit on our hands and wait out. We have to do everything we possibly can. This is a break the glass moment for our democracy and we have to use every tool in the toolbox to stand up to the administration and rally Americans.
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B
It's something of a counter idea. Maybe you should provoke the administration. Maybe provoking them would be.
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C
Wasn't there that whole thing about how Trump was saying publicly. I think our friend Jack Cacciarella actually revealed this in a Wes Moore video. He did. Wasn't Trump publicly saying that the crime is out of control, Wes Moore is doing a terrible job. And then he apparently called Wes Moore and said, hey, by the way, you're doing great. Did you hear about that?
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I don't doubt it. Governor Moore is an extremely charismatic guy and I can see Trump really respecting him.
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C
And those arms. Dante, throw up a picture of how jacked Wes Moore is.
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A
May we all aspire to.
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B
Have you ever given him a little kind of bicep?
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A
No, but he's got a firm handshake.
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C
I can only imagine. Now, I don't wanna spend too long on this simply because I kind of actually fucking hate hearing people talk about this. But I wanted to give you platform to share your truth. You also use the word very intently. Abundance in terms of public housing.
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B
Oh boy. We're abundance pilled.
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C
We're abundance pilled. And I just have to hand it to Ezra Klein's PR team. The way that you guys have made this book something that's advertised by every fucking election in the next year is pretty remarkable. I gotta hand it to you. But you said abundance. That's a word you used very intently. What is going on in Maryland with public housing? And how can Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson help?
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Yeah, I mean, I would call myself an anti paperwork progressive. I think as Democrats we have become overly.
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B
I hate paperwork.
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A
I hate paperwork. I hate paperwork. And Democrats unfortunately love paperwork. We have made it. We have means tested and over proceduralized. Our point to paralysis, where a government can't do anything, can't actually deliver the things that we promise. And so the Part of what Ezra Klein writes about. And I was on this wave before the book came out.
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C
Let it be known Lamp Post was abundancing before it was cool.
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A
Yes. I think we need to make it easier to build housing in more places. We need to make it easier for people who need help from the government. Whether it is free school meals or Medicaid or SNAP or it's a permit or it's approval to build public infrastructure. We need to make it easier and cheaper to do those things so that we can have the kind of society that we want.
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B
Has there been any progress on that front in the state recently? Like, do you think see things getting better or not really?
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A
Yeah. I mean, Governor Moore has been amazing on this, on pushing more housing, on reducing paperwork burdens for families, particularly in the benefits context. I just think there's so much more that we can do to make programs universal, to cut out the paperwork and to unlock.
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B
It's so hard to do all. It's just like, how do regular people do it? How do you do it? If you're a mom, single mom with three kids and you're gonna fill out all these fucking forms to get access to services, it is a huge burden. I was thinking about this in New Orleans. Are you guys charter schools? Do you have charter schools?
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A
Some in Baltimore, but. But very few.
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B
This, this could be applicable to other other things. But New Orleans, like, in order to like there are only a couple of good charter schools, right? And it's all charter. And so to get your kid into a good school, it's like you have to do a survey, get us, take a test, you have to fill it out and you have to send the form right at 11:59am on the specific date. It's just like, well, no, no wonder people aren't going to get like. Like folks whose, you know, young people whose parents are not on the ball like that are not going to do it. Like, it's just. The stuff is just way too confusing.
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A
Yeah, I agree with you completely. And it's so perverse, right? The people who need help the most, we put the most administrative burden on them. I think that's wrong and I think there's a ton that we can do about it.
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C
Well, before we get to the men's stuff, which you all find on our FYpod spin off channel, on the spin off FYpod channel, which you could find, we have the full interview and we're gonna get to some really exciting stuff that's gonna be my favorite part of the Interview. But real quick, before we get into that, I wanna do a speed round.
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B
Do I get to play?
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C
This is directed at you.
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B
Oh, great.
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C
Of Matt. Post policies and we're gonna see if Tim says thumbs up, thumbs sideways or thumbs down. And if it's a thumbs down, Matt has one paragraph per policy to make his case to you, the viewers at home.
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A
Is there a buzzer?
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B
This is a great game.
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C
I need to get a buzzer. Dante, add in a buzzing sound effect. Fuck with the sound. You got it. Okay, so I saw a really cool part of your website that I thought was pretty badass. Checks against corruption. We're gonna fight corruption. I personally am against corruption. I'm willing to make a bet that Tim is as well anti corruption for myself. Yeah, there are four points that I wrote down and I want to see where Mr. Timothy falls on each of these. Number one. Number one, ban corporate donations to state level candidates. Thumbs down. Matt, you have one paragraph.
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A
Interesting. What's your thinking?
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B
What's my thinking? Corporations are people, my friend. Why shouldn't people fail to donate? It should know. We should be public. It should be transparent. We should know what's happening. But we don't need to ban it.
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A
Well, did you know, Tim, you know that corporations are banned from donating directly to candidates at the federal level? Sure, that's so. It seems kind of crazy to me that at the state level a corporation can just donate directly to a political candidate. That seems wrong. Maryland is the minority on that. And I think even if doesn't it.
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B
Just drive them to the PAC system though? They become outside, then they just do super PACs. And is that any better we're getting?
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A
I think it's a little better.
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B
I think it's a little better.
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C
Next. Speaking of the PACs, campaign ads run by PACs and ballot issue committees must list their top three funders so voters know who is really behind the message.
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B
I agree with that. Might be anti Semitic though, but it's a Jewish candidate, so I think it's okay.
- [25:37]
A
They do this in California. I think it's great.
- [25:40]
B
That's good. I'm with them. I'm with you.
- [25:41]
C
Number two, Congressional stock trading ban.
- [25:45]
B
I just don't think it matters.
- [25:47]
C
You don't think it matters?
- [25:48]
B
I'm fine with it, but I think everybody obsesses over it a little too much. It's kind of like people. They should be able to trade stocks if they want. And we should know there should be transparency. I'm just transparent. I'm transparency. Pilt, abundance, pelt. And transparency pelt. Why do you think we should ban it?
- [26:01]
A
I think it goes to people's faith in government and whether they believe our representatives are actually working for them. And I think, even if, as in the vast majority of cases, I'm sure people are trading stocks, people are getting donations from corporations, I don't think it's necessarily affecting the decisions they would have made anyways. But it certainly affects the way that people, and particularly young people think, is this person actually working for me or are they just listening to the corporations? If I speak up and reach out, is my voice actually going to be heard or is it not even worth it at all?
- [26:32]
C
Maybe they can have some money in the S&P 500, which Scott Galloway's cam at Elson taught me on FYpod. You can go find the episode. The S&P 500 is a stock thing. It is not a NASCAR race. Last one. Matt says we ought to prohibit former legislators from lobbying for at least five years after leaving office to close the revolving door between government and special interests.
- [26:55]
B
I'm like a soft. I'm a soft sideways on it.
- [26:59]
C
Maybe like a 75% between five years.
- [27:02]
B
It's kind of long. Is that onerous?
- [27:04]
A
I'm willing to negotiate five years.
- [27:07]
B
Can we ban lobbying? I fucking hate lobbyists, so I'm fine with it. Do whatever you want. Screw with them, mess with them.
- [27:14]
C
We are gonna now move into the men's advice forums online.
- [27:19]
A
Oh, my God.
- [27:20]
C
I've got three things.
- [27:21]
B
Do you know what you're signing up for tonight in that post?
- [27:23]
A
Interesting.
- [27:25]
C
I filtered out a couple of them because I said I don't want Matt to have to comment on this. I did this from a pro, Matt angle.
- [27:31]
A
I appreciate that.
- [27:32]
C
But this is.
- [27:33]
B
I appreciate your transparency there. Speaking of transparency about your biases, I guess I did have a question for you before we get to the men's segment that I meant to ask.
- [27:39]
A
Yes.
- [27:40]
B
So, like, are you, like, in a primary? I don't know anything about the race itself. Are you Cam? I told Cam. I was like. He's like, I know this guy. I vouched for him. You can go in blind.
- [27:49]
A
Cool.
- [27:49]
B
So I came in blind. I'm meeting you. It's kind of like a first date. Yeah.
- [27:52]
A
How am I doing?
- [27:53]
B
Let's see what I think. It's going pretty good so far. But I want to hear being abundance pilled is the best thing you've had so far. You're preabundance, progressive abundance. I like that. We also don't like paperwork. Together, but so are you in a primary against like a 77 year old? Then we'd really be in business.
- [28:06]
A
Now, this is an open seat. It's the first time the seat's been open in 16 years. So the primary election is in June. I'm the first one in the race and just coming out, coming out swinging.
- [28:15]
B
Got it. Who. What would happen to the other person?
- [28:18]
A
She decided to. No, no, no. She's Delegate Pam Queen, extraordinary public servant.
- [28:24]
C
Doing so much for the state lobbyist.
- [28:25]
A
And is dec. Retire. Queen. Queen.
- [28:29]
B
Queen deserves to retire. Okay, cool. So you're in there. There may be some other candidates. Tbd.
- [28:34]
A
Yeah, we'll see.
- [28:35]
B
And like, the boundaries or what?
- [28:36]
A
Like, you know, we stretch from cornfields in Damascus to the suburbs, and only where I grew up to this town called Burnsville, which is home to a lot of new Americans. It's the northeastern edge of Montgomery County.
- [28:47]
B
We're calling only the suburbs now.
- [28:50]
A
What would you call it?
- [28:51]
B
I think it's an exurb.
- [28:52]
C
I don't know what any of this means.
- [28:54]
B
You don't know what an exurb is? No, it's like the outer suburbs where it's kind of like you're on the cusp between the suburbs and the farms.
- [29:02]
A
We've got some farm breweries. Actually a surprising number of farm breweries.
- [29:07]
C
Okay. They're trying to politic their way out of getting to the men's advice. I'm forcing the issue. Number one from Tim. I know I'm on Reddit. You don't need to fucking point it out. Again, number one from r.askmenadvice, a subreddit that ranges from very helpful, important conversations about masculinity to crazy red pill shit. It depends on what hour of the day. How can I effectively filter out women who are looking for a quote provider early in dating? I'm in my early 30s and have been dating pretty actively. Good for you. One recurring issue I've run into is women who seem to be looking for a provider. Ellipses. Not necessarily in a malicious way, but their questions or expectations early on make it clear that they want a guy who will fund their lifestyle or carry the financial weight. I'm not against traditional roles or generosity, but I'd rather find someone who values partnership, shared effort, and compatibility over what I can provide financially. What are some effective ways to spot or filter out this mindset?
- [30:03]
B
You seem like a douchebag, but move to Washington, D.C. there'll be plenty of women. There'll be plenty of working women there. Okay. That's my advice. Your advice sounds a little douchey. It sounds a little douchey. Calm down bro.
- [30:12]
C
Oh this guy.
- [30:13]
B
Yeah.
- [30:13]
C
Oh, I agree. This is not the guys I agree with forum.
- [30:16]
B
He sounds a little douchey to me. But I think that my advice to him would be you should move to Washington D.C. and you can meet working women there and they probably won't like you very much, but you'll have filtered out the women that you don't want to meet. You have thoughts? No.
- [30:32]
A
Nothing wrong with being a provider.
- [30:37]
B
Next question.
- [30:40]
C
I was just saying.
- [30:41]
A
Yeah. What do you think?
- [30:42]
C
My take in the matter is to if subtlety is something in which you can deal, which I can't always find out what they're looking for from the jump and I think that involves a lot of questions about what they like to do, who they like to hang out with, and you can figure out if those things align more than anything. Obviously if someone is just looking for someone who is going to provide a specific lifestyle for them, you're asking for trouble because maybe your personality is principles, values don't line up and it could be all fun and games for a while but then it blows up in your guys face when an actual issue that requires you both to show up with your character comes up. But at the end of the day, if somebody's in it for arbitrary shit, you have to be able to identify that. And I think that there's a line to be toed between someone who wants to know that you have your shit together and can take care of yourself and then someone who is just looking to gold diggers but also dude, just like that's called human connection. Get the fuck over yourself. Oh these get kind of sad.
- [31:47]
B
Why do a lot of men about workout routines?
- [31:49]
C
Why do a lot of men not like to do anything for their birthday? My boyfriend told me he has never celebrated his B day since he was 13 and made me sad. I personally asked him what he wanted to do for his birthday and he told me nothing. But my birthday was last month and he went all out for me. I want to do the same on his birthday but don't want to upset him. What do you guys think?
- [32:06]
A
My. My dad won't tell anyone his birthday? I don't. I don't know my dad's birthday.
- [32:11]
C
Do you know his age?
- [32:12]
A
Vaguely. Yeah.
- [32:13]
B
Okay, you don't know his birthday?
- [32:15]
A
Doesn't like talking about when his birthday is.
- [32:17]
B
Wait a minute. You literally don't know your father's birthday?
- [32:19]
A
No, no, I could find out but I feel like it'd be rude because he.
- [32:23]
B
Rude.
- [32:23]
A
He's pretty insistent that, you know, he says different dates, you know, he.
- [32:28]
B
What would you like to do for your birthday?
- [32:30]
A
I'm like my. I'm like my dad in this. The subject of this Reddit post.
- [32:34]
C
Even like a dinner with six friends.
- [32:38]
A
I can do that any day.
- [32:39]
B
That's a little sad. I would tell the girlfriend that she should contact. I'm hoping that the boyfriend has other male friends and she should contact the male friends and she should buy them, you know, an evening where they get to go to topgolf, have some beers. You know, if they're not in a city with a topgolf, they go to a driving range.
- [33:02]
C
What do you do for me who doesn't drink and doesn't golf?
- [33:06]
B
Well, doesn't seem like that's your girlfriend, though. I know that it seems to me like that her boyfriend, maybe. What would I do for you, Cam?
- [33:15]
A
Cam? Are these.
- [33:16]
B
I'd probably send you and three other bisexuals to a musical of some kind. I'd buy you three tickets to a musical. That's probably what I'd do for you.
- [33:25]
C
I would appreciate it. I don't like being with more than two other bisexuals at once. It becomes a little overwhelming. It's a. That's a tough thing to juggle. I do it plenty. But if you could send me with two gays and two women, I mean, that would cost a lot. Broadway tickets aren't cheap. Okay, next one.
- [33:42]
A
Do you think these are actual Reddit posts or are these things just on Cam's mind?
- [33:45]
B
I think these are actual Reddit posts. Cam spends a lot of time on Reddit.
- [33:49]
C
Believe me, the ones from Cam's mind would be far too complex for a one hour interview. This one is deep. Is it really that bad? Was the subject line. This one was submitted by a woman. I was on a date last night and I was complimenting the guy about his personality, basically saying he's cute and stuff. And he said, no one has ever said that to me before. I feel so sad for men now. Is it really that bad? And that one made me think, because I'm like, I know a lot of guys who I don't think get complimented very often. And I think it lends to what can be a ripple effect of self consciousness. And have you experienced something like that?
- [34:31]
B
I do agree with this. I think it's. I think it's. I mean, sometimes you'll get mad when you say this, but I think it's tough out There for the young heterosexual men right now in the world. And I think that there's like a category of them that are like, really hot and thotty, that do well on the social media age. But, like, I think that there's like a big. A big middle.
- [34:53]
C
But that's not what I'm saying.
- [34:54]
B
I'm not where they're not getting complimented, they're not getting positive feedback, they're not getting asked out really. They're not getting flirted with. Yeah. So I think that they. I think they could use a little positive reinforcement.
- [35:05]
C
I do remember the first time a woman said, I have a crush on you to me. My immediate reaction was like, that's not how it works. I'm supposed to have a crush on you. And then we dated for a bit and it was lovely and she was great. Drank a lot of it.
- [35:17]
B
Are you getting any compliments probably from old ladies? Cause you're out on the campaign trail and so you've got a lot of like, you know, Aunt Marys that are kind of squeezing your cheeks, being like, you're so cute. You're running for office. You are probably getting a lot of positive feedback like that.
- [35:29]
A
Yeah. I thankfully do get a good number of older Jewish women trying to connect me with their grandchildren.
- [35:35]
B
Have you had any luck in that regard?
- [35:37]
A
You know, I tend. That's not the arena, you know that. I'm busy.
- [35:42]
B
Dude, he's not trying to date right now. What do you mean? That's.
- [35:45]
A
No, no, no, no, no. Just, you know, on the campaign trip. You can't mix those.
- [35:48]
C
He's busy.
- [35:50]
B
Where else are you gonna meet a woman besides the campaign trail? You're running for office.
- [35:53]
C
He can win and then deal with it.
- [35:55]
B
I don't think so. Maybe you'll beat a lot of people.
- [35:56]
C
Campaigning and dating at the same time. Are you fucking joking?
- [35:59]
B
I think you absolutely should be campaigning and dating at the same time. It'd be a good outlet for your mind. Get your mind thinking about something else. You don't always be thinking about the direct male.
- [36:06]
C
Art Dante. Bring the thumbs down buzzer from the Tim thing back.
- [36:11]
A
No, but I'll say that, you know, as a straight guy, you know, you get one compliment maybe every 14 months or so, and you sort of hold on to that until the next one.
- [36:21]
B
I gotta tell you, I think you're gonna be getting some dating requests from this here YouTube video right now. Cam gets. Cam gets them.
- [36:28]
A
Really?
- [36:28]
B
People get to reach out.
- [36:30]
C
People do reach out. Everybody for a much shorter amount of time. We're Gonna do a quick segment of Cam's advice. Ding, ding, ding.
- [36:39]
B
Kim's a bite. Why are you dinging again? What was the ding?
- [36:41]
C
I've just really been into sound effects.
- [36:43]
A
Sound effects are big on Instagram.
- [36:45]
C
Cam's advice to people. Give your male friends compliments about their looks and their character and things like that. A lot of guys are not very used to that kind of positive reinforcement, and I think that it is very good for how they treat themselves and how they treat others. Two things that are inextricably tied. And if you're a dude and you've got. If you're like a straight dude, you got another straight dude friend. It isn't wrong to like say nice things about how he looks today. Compliment his outfit, compliment his hair. That's the type of stuff that we need more.
- [37:18]
B
It's not gay. It's not gay to tell your friend he looks handsome?
- [37:22]
C
No. It's the cool thing to do and it makes the friendship deeper. My like mostly straight bros group chat and I. You don't have to do this. This is a little much. But we almost always say love you at the end of phone calls because we fucking love each other.
- [37:36]
B
That's nice.
- [37:37]
C
Two more.
- [37:38]
B
I'm gonna have a couple bonus ones at the end, so we should go fast.
- [37:41]
C
Okay.
- [37:41]
B
Fast.
- [37:41]
C
Speed round. Okay. This is more of a theory, but it's very interesting. Wonder why the good men don't approach you. Here's why I think this is and how to fix it. So many women have expressed frustration about being approached by, quote, the wrong guy, often labeling these men as creeps. Understandable, but might worsen the problem. Men used to be more comfortable approaching women over time. As women began publicly feeling more supported, voicing discomfort and labeling certain behaviors as creepy, a shift occurred. Good hearted guys started to withdraw so as to not make women uncomfortable and less considerate. Guys don't give a shit about whether or not they're making women uncomfortable, so they approach anyway. Now most of the guys who approach women are the less considerate types, thus putting women in a position where the good dudes to rotten dudes ratio seems off. And it's worth also considering in our answers to this that in Matt and my generation, dudes are definitely a lot more concerning.
- [38:35]
B
Do you ever. Do you ever. Have you ever just done a cold, like offer your digits to a gal out in public?
- [38:41]
A
I don't think so.
- [38:43]
B
That's my advice to the youth, the young men. It's charming. You get out a pen. Are you ready for this? A Pen, like an ink pen, like a feather quill. And you get, like, a receipt or something, a piece of paper. You rip it out and you put your phone number on there. You just go up to the lady gal, the young woman. You're like, hey, you're cute. Here's my number.
- [39:06]
A
Are you saying anything while you're.
- [39:07]
B
No. Hey, you're cute. Here's my number.
- [39:09]
C
I just met you, and this is.
- [39:10]
B
Crazy, but here's my number. Yeah, I probably wouldn't sing the whole Carly Wyatt Jepsen song, but I would do the Carly Wyatt Jepsen song thing and walk away with a little bit of just like, a little bit of, like, cute nervousness. And I think that would signal that you're not one of the douchey guys, that you're a little nervous about it. You're excited. It's a compliment. There's no risk, really. What's the worst can happen? You never get the text. Who cares? There's no embarrassment. That's what we did back in the day. And it feels like that would still be a pretty applicable effort.
- [39:39]
C
Okay, we're gonna zoom back back in time segment here on FYpod. Let's talk to straight Tim Miller. Did you ever give a woman your phone number? Have you only given it to men?
- [39:48]
B
Of course not. I'd never give a woman my phone number. I was in the closet and trying to hide from women as much as possible.
- [39:53]
C
But you kissed women.
- [39:54]
B
I did kiss women, but, like, accidental. It was like I got into a situation. You know what I mean? I didn't try.
- [40:00]
C
You couldn't blow your cover?
- [40:01]
B
Yeah.
- [40:02]
C
I've approached a woman. Cold approach. One time, I saw a lady who I thought was very pretty at Washington Square park, and I was with a group of three other people. I would not have done this if I were alone. And she was with a group of people. And one of the things I love about Washington Square park, it's kind of everything to love about New York City. There's just people hanging out and, like, fucking around and doing stuff. And it's the cool thing about being surrounded by other human beings. And I grabbed my buddy who had a mustache that I did not think his face worked with. I didn't think it was the right mustache. And I grilled him for it. And I said, hey, man, can I throw you under the bus? Can you take one for the team? And he said, what do you mean? I was like, I need your blind loyalty. And he said, okay. And I walked up to this lady and her Group of friends. And I said, hey, I'm so sorry to bother you guys. Help me out here. You're never gonna see this guy again in your life. The best thing you could do is give your honest opinion. He's got a shave, right? And then they were like, no, he looks so good. And our two groups ended up merging and just the mega group ended up hanging out for like two hours. And then at the end, I just exchanged Instagrams with Everybody and then DM'd the one specific girl was there a kiss the next day, that was a kiss.
- [41:18]
A
It's a good strategy.
- [41:18]
C
I made her watch.
- [41:19]
B
It's a great strategy. The problem is for nervous boys. So the Instagram exchange, you gotta stand there. If you're a nervous boy, you do have to stand there. Everybody's gotta take their phone out. It's uncomfortable. If you get rejected, you're getting rejected right there in person. Like, the number slide takes the stakes down a little bit.
- [41:34]
A
Yeah, I guess I gotta get a friend with a mustache. That's what I'm hearing.
- [41:37]
C
You can find a friend with a beard and just tell them to take one for the G. Yeah. And I will say you do have to make sure that you have a normal looking Instagram and you're not posting weird stuff on it. I'm an exception for a variety of reasons.
- [41:51]
B
As a content creator.
- [41:52]
C
As a content creator, that's definitely like much. I think it hurts me a lot more than people might think.
- [41:59]
B
I think you're doing fine out there. A little bit worried about Matt, though. Matt, you're not doing cold approaches. You're not dating on the campaign trio. You're not accepting setups from Jewish mothers or grandmothers.
- [42:10]
C
I'm sorry. When you were a fucking comms director, if you found out that the candidate that you were working for was just going on dates, Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
- [42:19]
B
Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Get out there, dude. I'm a lover, Cam. I want people to go out there and, you know, canoodle. Life is short.
- [42:28]
A
True.
- [42:29]
B
Life is short. You know, you don't want to find yourself. You don't want to be one of those guys that are in the state legislature. And then next thing you know, you want to be the speaker. And you're like, I can't date until I'm the speaker. You know, but then next thing you know, you're 38, you know, you're alone, you're eating ramen in your apartment in Annapolis, and you've had. You think you've got everything you wanted as the speaker of the Maryland House. But it turns out you're lonely. Is there a haunted future for you?
- [42:52]
A
I can't wait to think back to this conversation in, like 30 years. Who's the. You ever read the Robert Caro LBJ books?
- [42:59]
B
I pretended to read ones that are.
- [43:02]
C
Like 3,000 pages long.
- [43:04]
B
Skimmed, you know, read some articles about them.
- [43:07]
A
Yeah, it was the Senate Majority leader. I forgot his name. Mitchell lived this. I forgot who it was.
- [43:14]
B
Mitchell. Do you have any more? Because I have some men questions for him.
- [43:19]
C
No, that was.
- [43:20]
B
What's your workout routine? Are you working out? Are you getting any? Are you lifting at all?
- [43:24]
A
Yeah, I do five days a week. Buy back, legs, shoulders.
- [43:29]
B
Sorry.
- [43:30]
A
By and back by back one day, legs and shoulders, legs, shoulders next day. And then chest and tries third day.
- [43:36]
C
Watch out, Westmore.
- [43:38]
B
The next killed guy in Maryland. Are you doing that alone? Are you going to a gym? You have a trainer?
- [43:42]
A
Yeah, I go to a gym.
- [43:43]
B
Go to a gym.
- [43:44]
A
Go to the LA Fitness in Ley Hill.
- [43:46]
B
Oh, man of the people just out there at the LA Fitness.
- [43:49]
A
Yeah. If anyone wants to come interact with me. LA Fitness, I like to go like.
- [43:53]
B
An hour before it closes while you're there.
- [43:55]
A
That feels like a line.
- [43:56]
B
Does feel like a line. I agree with that. What about crypto? Are you doing any crypto investing?
- [44:00]
A
Yeah, I had a little bit of Bitcoin in 2017. I listened to a podcast with John McAfee where he said he went crazy. Yeah. And he said he was going to do a crazy thing. You can Google it. If bitcoin didn't hit $100,000 by 2020. And he's so crazy. I believed him. And so I bought some bitcoin. But then times became pretty tough in terms of my split wise debt. And so I sold my Bitcoin in 2024.
- [44:31]
B
Okay, that's pretty good. What is split wise debt?
- [44:34]
A
You don't use split wise. You know, split wise. No, this is not an ad for split wise.
- [44:37]
C
Is it like klarna?
- [44:39]
A
No, it's like for you and your roommates. You, like, log all the debts that you owe to each other, and then every month you settle up some households.
- [44:49]
B
Household debts you had to pay off with bitcoin. Yeah, I had to do that. I had to do that when I was your age with my sports gambling account.
- [44:54]
C
I was gonna ask if you sports bet.
- [44:57]
A
I do not. Well, I've done some of the promotions. I've done some of the promotions.
- [45:01]
C
What does that mean?
- [45:02]
A
You know, they have these, like, promotions where it's like A risk free bet to like get you in and get addicted. It's recently legal in Maryland.
- [45:09]
B
Are you for that or against that?
- [45:11]
A
It's a tough issue because on one hand I want to fund schools and we do need the revenue to fund important programs. On the other hand, it's deeply corrosive to society.
- [45:21]
B
You've got to make a decision though. Would you be for banning sports gambling in Maryland?
- [45:27]
A
I mean it's legal now, so there's not much. I am against the effort to legalize iGaming, which is like not even just betting on sports, but betting like roulette on your phone.
- [45:38]
B
Yeah. That's insane. Getting roulette on your phone.
- [45:40]
A
That seems probably.
- [45:41]
B
But in the free state of Maryland, people should be able to gamble on the race. Ravens game if they want to. I would think.
- [45:47]
A
Yeah, I'm pretty conflicted. Give me an argument for it. Sounds like you're against.
- [45:51]
B
Well, it's a free. No, I'm for it. Oh, you're for it. It's a free country. And I want to put 20 bucks on whether the Ravens are going to cover the minus three and a half spread with that. I should be able to do that, you know, without the man telling me that I can't. I understand there's some social consequences to it. There's social consequences to a lot of things. So I don't. I don't need. I don't need daddy Maryland telling me what I can and can't do with my resources. No, yeah.
- [46:16]
A
It's a fair argument. It's a fair argument. I just think you talk to some of our fellow gents and it's like, wow, this is.
- [46:25]
B
Some people get in deep. No problem. I definitely would be for. I think that restrictions, regulations, like should the fucking leagues be able to have their own platforms that they're using? So we'd be advertising them during the game? Yeah, I mean ESPN be like in the middle of the game. It's like right now, if you bet right now and you bet on the live line, like. No, there's. I'm for that stuff. Just like you on the pacs, like promotion like restrictions, limits. But the banning of it, I don't like.
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C
Well. Cause we had twice elected DNC Vice chair Malcolm Kenyatta on. And Malcolm Kenyatta was talking about how there's fucking Pennsylvania transit policy. It's getting affected by FanDuel going in and fucking around. And I. And I try to watch the baseball playoffs. I pay 30 fucking dollars a month for the MLB pass. But it turns out the MLB Pass gets you most of the games during regular season, except for the Friday night game that's on Apple TV and a couple of them that are on fucking FanDuel. But then the MLB Pass doesn't get you the postseason. There has been a Balkanization, and I use that word very intently, of sports where you now have to have 20 fucking streaming services to watch the sport that you want to watch. And it's fucking insane. I believe in a state owned network where every fucking sports game is available. It's going to be run by the people, the people who Zoron is hiring to run this grocery store. We're going to give them a second job where they're going to run the biggest sports network of all time. We're going to add aew. It's going to be tremendous. Many people, a lot of people are telling me, the top people are telling me that it's one of the best ideas they've ever.
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A
It is.
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B
You had me on this rant because I'm so fucking annoyed that NBA League Pass is on Amazon now. And so I have to. I have to scroll over to Amazon to get the Nuggets games. I want to go back and forth. You can't go back and forth. In my day, back in my day, you know, we walked uphill to school both ways, you know, and. And we also were able just to turn from channel four to Channel seven. We didn't have to go into a new application. I don't like that. I don't want the communist solution though.
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A
Yeah, yeah. I hope that someone adds some patriotic music behind camp speech.
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C
Dante, you know what to do.
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A
I'd like to hear some American. Some bald eagle screeches.
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B
Do you have any MMA thoughts?
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A
I love mma.
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B
Okay. Yeah, I know nothing about mma. I just want a hot take about anything. Just educate me. Tell me a fighter you like or anything.
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A
I just think this stuff is cathartic and I think it's good for the.
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B
Country to watch it. Have you been to an MMA fight?
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A
I've not been to one.
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B
Now would you want to?
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A
I don't think I live far from.
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C
D.C. so you can go see the one at the White House.
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A
Right? That's an interesting point. Yeah. Yeah. If they ever become a little less Republican, maybe I can score a seat next to Gavin Newsom or whoever they start inviting.
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B
The only thing I've learned about. Do you have a favorite MMA man fighter?
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A
I mainly just watch it when my friends have it on.
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B
Spectator thing.
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A
Yeah, it's like Coliseum.
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B
I know nothing but the only thing I've learned is there's. I might be getting his name wrong. Who cares? I think it's Peyton Talbot and he.
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C
Was doing that sounds like the name of a conservative 20 year old who's trying to follow up Charlie Kirk. The new Charlie Kirk is 21 year old private jet rider Peyton Talbot. Sorry.
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B
No. The only reason I know anything about him is because I was, you know, in my Instagram for you page and it kept showing me this one MMA fighter and it's like I was like, why do they think I'm gonna like this MMA fighter? And he looks good. He looks good shirtless, but I don't. They all look pretty good, Shirless. And that's not usually my type. Like I'm not really into big muscle guys, but he's a little Trevor. So I was like, maybe the Chinese. And Zuckerberg just knew I would like him. And then so I finally clicked on him and I realized why it kept being posted. It was because him and Frank Ocean, he's bisexual and him and Frank Ocean have been having a little fling. And I like Frank Ocean's music and I like gay fling content. And so he's my new MMA fighter. I haven't watched any of his fights yet, but I'm riding with Peyton Talbot. I think that's his name.
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C
I don't know everybody, you heard it here first, folks. Matt, before we let you go, I do want to ask, do you have a sport that you're like a super fan of or are you too politics nerd for that?
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A
I really like the Ravens.
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B
I'm sorry, it's been a rough start for the Ravens.
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A
Yeah, it's pretty tough.
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B
Is Lamar coming back? Anytime. What's the injury? Is he going to be back? Do we know?
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A
Who knows? Who knows? But you know, I think I'm feeling good.
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B
They look good.
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A
Week one, I'm feeling good. I think we're a little bit of a blip.
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B
How could you be feeling good? This feels like a politician answer.
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A
This is the blind hope that we were talking about earlier. I think you gotta feel this across all.
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C
Are you guys AFC North? I mean, a couple weeks ago it was like, my God, who's gonna take the afc? The Bills or the Ravens? And one thing that if I were ever hypothetically a member of Congress, I would do is designate the Buffalo Bills as a domestic terror organization.
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B
Why?
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C
Fuck the Bills. Worse than antifa.
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B
Root them out. Root them out.
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C
The difference is antifa doesn't have a leadership structure. Antifa doesn't have a headquarters. I could tell you exactly who runs the bills and where their headquarters are. And I think we should keep an eye on them.
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A
Thought it was George Soros.
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B
I guess I disagree with that.
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C
You heard it here first, folks. Everybody. Matt Post is running for state legislature. Yes.
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A
State House delegates.
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C
State House delegates. Go check out his website. And is there a contact page on.
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B
Your website for young ladies or for.
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C
No, for grandmas. For grandmas. To build the connection.
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A
My DMs are open for questions about policy and questions about problems facing the district.
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B
GM's open.
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C
Stay tuned for more. Well, there's no more.
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B
Get the out, everybody slide right in. See ya.