Palmer Luckey, The MAGA Billionaire Who Ate His Boogers

Summary

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FYPod – Palmer Luckey, The MAGA Billionaire Who Ate His Boogers

Host: Tim Miller
Co-host: Cameron Kasky
Date: October 24, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Tim Miller and Cameron Kasky break down the shifting generational politics in America, with a focus on prominent right-wing billionaire Palmer Luckey. The pair address the rising influence of fringe right cultural ideas among Gen Z, using Luckey's recent commentary and personal eccentricities as a launchpad for a discussion ranging from Democratic Party candidate controversies to the normalization of extreme views at the highest levels of conservative power. With a sharp, sardonic tone, they dissect what’s driving Gen Z toward Trump and what Democrats are getting wrong—highlighting both the importance and pitfalls of authenticity and forgiveness in politics.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. John Fetterman’s Political Evolution & Democratic Infighting

[00:49–07:15]

• Fetterman’s Style and Limitations:

  • Miller and Kasky discuss Senator John Fetterman’s struggle to effectively criticize the Trump administration, observing his tendency to "miss layups."
  • They empathize with his stroke aftermath but critique his lack of follow-through on populist messaging.
  • Quote (Tim Miller, 03:17):
    "You would think this would be a fucking—call it a layup—like, right across the plate for Fetterman to be like, ‘Donald Trump’s taking $230 million that should be going to the people that are struggling to pay for their groceries...’”

• Broader Democratic Strategy:

  • They examine the risks of running unconventional, populist candidates (like Graham Platner in Maine) versus centrist ones, referencing the “Fetterman experience” as a cautionary tale.
  • Reflect on how ideological purity battles can blind both the progressive and centrist wings to pragmatic candidate choices.

2. The Platner Candidacy and Internet History Accountability

[07:54–17:43]

• Internet Past and Redemption:

  • Kasky underscores the importance of context and redemption for candidates from younger generations with messy online histories.
  • The hosts debate the varying standards applied across ideological lines—how progressive candidates receive more forgiveness than centrists would for similar pasts.
  • Quote (Cameron Kasky, 10:44):
    “My generation is going to be a generation of people with a history of comments on the Internet...how are we going to start to handle these things?”

• Populism’s Double Standard:

  • Miller points out the “bad faith” defense of Platner from progressives who’d likely attack centrists over similar revelations.
  • Kasky agrees:
    Quote (14:27):
    "Were it a Pete type, it would be a completely different conversation, and he would be clubbed to death by these very same people who are defending Platner."

• Capacity for Change:

  • Kasky and Miller both stress a belief in personal growth but caution against letting tribal biases cloud reasoned political judgment.

3. Palmer Luckey as a MAGA Symbol—Views and Weirdness

[18:12–21:46]

• Wild Social Views:

  • The hosts play a Palmer Luckey podcast clip where he shockingly argues that teens should have children (16–18 years old) for biological reasons.
  • Kasky jokes about medieval ways and underscores how regressive this thinking is:
    Quote (Cameron Kasky, 19:16):
    “Are you a medieval noble who's trying to betroth me to your six year old daughter?”

• Luckey’s Profile:

  • Miller provides background on Luckey: Oculus founder, controversial billionaire, connected to Matt Gaetz (his sister’s husband), Trump supporter, border surveillance tech entrepreneur.
  • Shares a hilarious and stomach-turning personal anecdote:
    Quote (Tim Miller, 20:00):
    “Over lunch, this man picked his nose and ate it during lunch...It was the most disgusting lunch I've ever had with anyone in my life. He was slurping his miso soup...I found him very scary. And here he is now, big Trumper and acting and advocating for child, child marriage and child rearing.”

• Billionaire Stereotypes Debunked:

  • Kasky pushes back on the myth of the “refined billionaire,” noting:
    “A lot of these guys are weird fucking hippies. ... No more Bruce Wayne billionaires. A lot of these people are as freaky as anyone.” (21:10)

4. Pronatalism, Eugenics Overtones, and Right-Wing Influence

[21:46–26:54]

• Luckey’s “16 Year Olds Should Have Babies” Take:

  • Miller and Kasky dissect this trend of “pronatalism” intersecting with eugenics and white supremacy tropes on the far right.
  • Kasky responds forcefully:
    Quote (Cameron Kasky, 23:55):
    “Just because somebody's body can do something does not mean their mind should have to do it. Like, the psychological toll...Imagine if your 16-year-old daughter [was] dealing with postpartum before she even knows how to deal with the fucking SAT.”

• Immigrant Bashing Meets Population Panic:

  • Kasky highlights hypocrisy:
    “The same people who want us to have net negative migration, by the way, are talking about how there aren't enough people in this country.” (26:01)
  • Both point to the cruelty of demanding “make more babies” while refusing to provide social supports for young or poor families.

• Media & Establishment Enabling:

  • Miller showcases the mainstreaming of ultra-fringe views, referencing promotional materials lauding Luckey as a “maverick.”
  • Sarcastic jab:
    Quote (Cameron Kasky, 27:28):
    “Imagine being a billionaire and not having a better headshot than that. This looks like the poster for an event at like a high school that was graphic designed by somebody using Ms. Paint.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Fetterman Failing to Call Out Trump:
  "He’s not even doing the populist, anti-establishment thing. He’s like doing the suck up to the leader, like suck up to the moneyed interest thing."
  — Tim Miller, [05:05]

• On Partisan Bad Faith:
  “The same crew that is coming to Platner’s defense...would be like, see, the centrists are racists.”
  — Tim Miller, [14:00]

• On Palmer Luckey as a Culture Warrior:
  “This man is a maverick and he is a hero”—He justifies 16-year-olds having babies while slurping miso soup and eating his own boogers at lunch.
  — Tim Miller (paraphrased, [21:00–27:28])

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Important Timestamps

• [03:17] – Tim Miller’s critique of Fetterman's missed populist opportunities
• [10:44] – Kasky discusses political accountability for past online comments
• [14:27] – Both hosts agree on the bad faith double standard in candidate scrutiny
• [18:12–18:49] – Palmer Luckey’s podcast audio on “having kids in your teens”
• [20:00] – Tim Miller’s infamous “booger eating” lunch story about Luckey
• [23:55] – Kasky dismantles the logic and harm of teen pregnancy advocacy
• [26:01] – Kasky exposes contradictions in right-wing pronatalism
• [27:28] – Sarcastic riff on Luckey’s reputation and public persona

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Tone and Takeaways

The episode is irreverently critical, sometimes profane, and deeply skeptical of both right-wing fringe cultural movements and their normalization via media figures like Palmer Luckey. Tim and Cameron argue for more pragmatism and compassion on the left, while showing alarm at the growing power and weirdness unleashed on the mainstream right.

Listeners come away with:

• A sharp view of intra-Democratic debates and the dangers of both purity tests and blinkered populism
• Context for the meme-fueled, sometimes bizarre cultural climate influencing young right-wing voters
• A healthy dose of humor and disgust at the eccentric personalities shaping contemporary American politics

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Transcript

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[A]

Palmer Luckey just did an interview with Bari Weiss, kind of advancing some pretty far right views over for her podcast with Bari Weiss.

[D]

Yeah, with Barry Weiss, who reports directly to Ellison. He was doing far right views. What a concept.

[A]

Hey, everybody, I'm Tim Miller.

[D]

And I'm Cam Kaski. And this is FYpod, the Bulwark show, where we talk about stuff from a young people perspective and from the perspective of people who occasionally want to know what the fuck is going on when certain politicians are doing weird shit. Let's take a look at an example of that with Mr. John Fetterman, a man.

[A]

Not really. Don't get mad at me.

[C]

And you even represent Eagles fans, I take it as well. One final question, Senator Fetterman, the president yesterday seemed to acknowledge that he's trying to get a $230 million payout from the government in response to a couple of the investigations into him. That would be taxpayer money. How do you feel about the president pushing for that?

[A]

I hope that's not true, too, for that kinds of money. That's small ball. And I think we have much bigger problems and worrying about those things. I hope it's. I hope it's not true. And of course, you know, the 2,230 million dollars should go to paying people's health insurance or other things. That's not a priority I would ever support for those kinds of payments.

[C]

Senator John Fetterman, a Democrat from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and a Steelers fan. We do appreciate your time.

[D]

Why is he missing layoffs? Like, why can't he call out the Trump administration for one thing? Because unless I'm mistaken, it seems like these days all he does is play defense for them. Whether that's illegal strikes in the Caribbean, whether that's. Is it Caribbean or Caribbean?

[A]

I say both. I go back and forth.

[D]

It's the Pirates of the Caribbean movies that really fucked it up for me.

[A]

But.

[D]

Are there points at which he is critical of the Trump administration at this point or is he just, I.

[A]

Mean, I think he was trying to be there. I said there are a couple things happening here that I think are worth commenting on. One is just, and I say this like with respect and not trying to be a dick. It's just like he obviously is still dealing with after effects of the stroke. I mean, he can be like, that didn't make sense. Like the answer doesn't really make sense. And I said this to you when I interviewed him. It was very awkward for me because, you know, I want to be sympathetic to somebody that's coming off of a medical event. You're also a sitting senator. You thought of a lot of responsibilities and he just doesn't really have an ability to do like follow up questions or like complex thoughts, like he has talking points, but then once you get off of them, he struggles. And I think that's what I saw there. He didn't exactly know what he wanted to say about that, so it ended up being a lot of just sort of word salad. So I think he was trying to say that. I hope it's not true because I think it's bad, but he didn't really enunciate it that well. And to me, the thing that is, that is the most revealing about Fetterman that is bad in this case and in a separate clip where he talked about the, you know, kind of, he didn't care about the White House getting blown up, exploded. And, and this happens across the board. Like if you wanted to give the best case scenario for Fetterman, like an, an argument, it said, this guy is just a working class guy who like wears sweat shorts and he only cares about things that people in Braddock care about. And so he doesn't, he doesn't get involved with all your pearl clutching about DOJ norms or whatever, but at least he'll skill stand up for his people. Like he doesn't stand up for his people ever. In any case. Like, that's my thing about this. Like, you would think this would be a fucking, you call it a layup. Like right across the plate for Fetterman to be like, Donald Trump's taking 230 million that should be going to the people that are struggling to pay for their groceries. Like, Donald Trump is taking 10 million from Lockheed Martin and 20 million from Google to build himself a fancy pants Versailles in dc. Shouldn't that money be going to people who are struggling in this country?

[D]

Calling it a Versailles gives it too much credit. It's going to be some ugly gold Trump Aesthetic shit looks awful. Trump aesthetic is terrible. Like, for someone who like prides himself so much on appearances, like he builds some ugly shit that looks stupid.

[A]

He does look like, oh, shit looks stupid. But I guess that's my point. You could make a populist case against this from the populist. Right. And have that, well, right, that was a Freudian sweat. But from the populist center or whatever, whatever Fetterman is, you know, where he, we're like, whatever. If he agrees to Trump on a couple policy things and he does, but like on these sorts of issues, like, he's not even doing the populist, anti establishment thing. He's like doing the fucking suck up to the leader, like suck up to the moneyed interest thing.

[D]

Not even in one of those Gretchen Whitmer getting caught on camera giving Trump like a, like dap dapping him up type things where, you know, we can talk about whether playing nice with Trump in certain instances is kind of what you have to do. That's a different conversation. But again, he's missing layups. He's capitulating to Trump in areas where it's not even going to cause Trump to perhaps treat Pennsylvanians any better. But the kind of timelier question that I think this raises because Fetterman acting like this, and by the way, to what you were saying about him recovering from the stroke, another thing in regards to his brain function that I think it's super important for us to point out, that is the fact that many staffers have reported him having temper tantrums, yelling, yelling at teachers unions, yelling at different people who he works with. There are a lot of signs right now that this guy kind of yelling.

[A]

At himself also just like, why are people so mean to me? Like that kind of thing.

[D]

Why don't people like me? Stuff like that. But I've seen this on Twitter in the Graham Platner Reddit and Nazi tattoo discourse where people are saying like, oh, putting up somebody like Platner, allowing someone like Platner to kind of walk in even with all of this baggage, you're asking for another Fetterman. When somebody is leaning into more populist, progressive adjacent messaging. This could be a Trojan horse situation where you're letting in someone who should they get that position, is ultimately going to capitulate to MAGA and betray the Democratic Party. I kind of think it's a nuanced topic. But I'm curious what you think about, like, about that, like, beyond the condemning Nazi shit and the ugly tattoo he had and everything like that. Do you see populists like him who can actually perhaps win elections that otherwise seem challenging, ending up like Fetterman. Do you think Fetterman is like a special case?

[A]

Yeah, a lot. Yeah, sure. A lot there. I just really quick. I mean, my main issue with patent. I said this with favs in the pod, you said. But I just think it's worth repeating because I just don't feel to misunderstand me. Mr.

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[A]

The Maine Senate race actually shouldn't be that challenging. Kamala won Maine. And so to me, it was kind of like, I think, yeah, like nine. So I think it's like a different question about whether it's worth the risk of kind of an untested person putting ideology aside in Maine than if it was like Florida. Right. You know what I mean? So I do think that, like, maybe you don't need to take try somebody new in a place like Maine. Maybe you do. I just want to put that out there. Like, the Maine case is like, makes this a little unique. The Fetterman thing is also interesting because it's like, I don't really think Graham Platinum is going to turn into a Fetterman. The Fetterman case is very, you know, and he has the stroke and he always had some weird kind of things. I guess people could say Platner always has had some weird things, but I don't know. The Fetterman, there were some red flags. As a bulwarky person, I would say it is worth. I wish that the people that were very excited about Fetterman on the populace left progressive space would have a little bit more reflection on the fact that, like, the normie centrists were really right on that race. Like Conor Lamb who he ran against was just like a cookie cutter white guy that, like, looks like he could, you know, be in the picture next in the encyclopedia next to like white bread American. Like, it could just be Conor Lamb's picture next to it. And like, he has been great as speaking out against the Trump administration would have been a much better senator, no matter whether you're a centrist or progressive or whatever. He would have just been a million times better on all accounts than Fetterman. And so sometimes I feel like people get dug in based on their ideological side, that it's like, well, Federman was kind of repping progressive vibes, so I'm going to be for him and Condolam's repping center's vibes, so I'm not going to be for him. And then the same thing's happening in Maine, where Janet Mills is kind of giving off a lot of Joe Biden the energy and Graham Platner is giving off Bernie energy. And it's like, I just kind of think it's like, worth letting it play out. And I think it's an interesting data point that's like, we should remember the Fetterman experience and continue to kick the tires on Platinum. I see how he performs. It's a year away, you know, like nine months away till the primary. But, but I think it's a, it's possible, you know, it's something worth keeping an eye on, I guess. But Fetterman also could be an outlier, I guess. That's my thoughts on it. What do you.

[D]

I talked about this on MSNBC Sunday when we were doing the morning show, and I think I was, I think I was asked this question to be set up to grill Platner for his Reddit comments for everybody's very important context. I was talking about his Reddit comments, not the Nazi tattoo. But I think this applies across the board. The Platner situation is a very important conversation for the party to have, given that, you know, my generation is going to be a generation of people with history of comments on the Internet. And as we move forward and the Democratic Party has to reconcile with a culture that has shifted from certain types of accountability that are completely necessary in certain types of accountability that are perhaps holding people to a standard that is not going to lead to success for us. How are we going to start to handle these things? Are we going to listen to someone like Platner when they tell a story of their own redemptive experience, learning valuable lessons? Or are we going to need everyone to be that kind of perfect? Yale, I mean, Favreau had a tweet about this where it's like, every single politician needs to have a perfect history, have gone to Yale Law School, you know, served in certain capacities and fit the purity test. Like, I personally don't know, Seeing the platinum Nazi tattoo gave me as a Jewish person, a very valuable reminder that not everybody needs to have a take about everything. Because when I was wondering what my take on the Platinum Nazi tattoo thing was, I was like, you know, if he wasn't a veteran, I might think differently about this. But I kind of feel like people who serve this country need at least context provided for why they did certain things. When I saw the tattoo, I completely believed the story that he just saw it and thought it was like some badass thing and didn't understand it was a Nazi thing. Whether that is just too risky is the other conversation. Like you said, Janet Mills probably could win this race. But you know, I agree with part of the Ezra Klein sentiment. And you know that if I say I agree with Ezra Klein, watch out. Yeah. But I agree with part of his sentiment that you need to be willing to run Democrats in races where they are not going to fit your vision of the party, but they could win. I don't think abortion is one of the issues where we should cede any ground, especially since in a lot of the states that Ezra Klein referenced when he was talking about where we need to run pro life Democrats, abortion won, like pro abortion measures won on the ballot. So I think that that was kind of ridiculous. But listen, I'm somebody who identifies as someone with very progressive politics, but I think that in races where you need a moderate to win, you run a fucking moderate. But I guess on this point, can.

[A]

I ask you one thing about this? The one thing that has annoyed me about the platinum discourse? There's been a lot of know, but this is one that's really stuck in my craw is that there were a lot of like progressive like dirtbag lefty or not even dirt bag lefty, but like just, you know, like the more populous left Bernie crowd just to genericize it.

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[A]

You see a lot of them making this defense of Platner being like, you know, we have to. The party has to learn, right. That like, you know, we're going to have some people with some rough edges and some past comments and we get younger people in and younger people, these Internet histories. And I agree with all that. It's just kind of hard for me to imagine them making that case if it was like Josh Shapiro or Pete Buttigieg or Jared golden and it was revealed that they had, you know, a quasi racist. Not even quasi, kind of racist, really, in some of the cases, like racist comments on a Reddit board in the past, I kind of feel like the same crew that is coming to Platner's defense being like, you know, we gotta accept rough around the edges. People would be like, see, the centrists are racists. Like, we gotta. You know what I mean? And I do think there's a little bit of bad faith on that.

[D]

Yeah. I think that two things can be true at once. I think that a lot of the arguments to be made that it's more important what Platner is doing with this moment and what he plans to do with the future than it is what he's done in the past, especially when he's willing to hold himself accountable for these things. I also think you're right to say that were it AP type, it would be a completely different conversation and he would be clubbed to death by these very same people who are defending Platters. This is kind of where my party.

[A]

I just wanted to hear you say that.

[D]

No, this is where my party values kick in, because I'm happy to go after plenty of Democrats for plenty of things. But I think that ultimately, when it comes to focusing on winning, you need to focus on who can win and serve the Democratic project. And that's what it needs to be about. But I also think that there's some context. Right? The things that Platner did were things that a disaffected veteran who got screwed over by the system and learned a valuable lesson about what the American system is, would do. I mean, a lot of the comments that he made that I find reprehensible or unacceptable or something in between that and understandable, a lot of those make a lot of sense in the context of a veteran who served this country and then got smacked in the face the reality of what the American system really is, especially for our vets. Someone like Pete. Well, he. He is what Jon Favreau was joking about, which is the perfect cookie cutter guy who had a certain type of.

[A]

I guess I kind of. I hate this, though, actually. It's just because they Dress different. I don't know. Grandpa had. Had successful parents, went to GW I again, he went to war. And his work experience was very different than Pete. No doubt. I'm not trying. I. He saw some really crazy stuff over there and horrible stuff. And so I'm not trying to minimize that. I'm just saying it's not exactly, I don't know, like Pete was in the closet, was serving in the military. It was illegal for him to serve in the military. Actually, when Pete was in the military, he's in the closet. He's the mayor of South Bend. Comes out. Yeah, right. And he comes out, he runs as a first major gay candidate. Again, I'm not trying to like compare traumas here or whatever, but I'm just like, it's not as if we're talking about one guy that like, you know, has ex, you know, whatever that was born with a golden boot in his mouth and like was an EPO baby and, and succeeded at everything in life and was a straight white guy and another person that like grew up in the ghetto and you know, didn't was in a one parent household and whatever, you know, was in jail. You know what I mean? Like, that's not what it is. Like Platner and Buttigieg's background.

[D]

This speaks to the same thing, which is context. If there is a reason to believe that this person might have felt this way and if there's a reason to believe that they have had a journey ever since, I think that you need to believe in those things. Because if you give up on the idea that a human being can change, I think that you're giving up on everybody a little bit. You know, there's certain people who I look up to and idolize in this life who have had backgrounds where they've said and done things that I find completely abhorrent and unacceptable. And they've said, that's not me anymore. Here's what I learned and here's how I applied it.

[A]

I'm for all that. This is the bulwark, that's our whole ethos, all of us, that's everybody.

[D]

I have to believe in that. I really have to believe in that because I myself have had to learn a lot of important things. And I myself believe that I am a different person than the individual who made certain mistakes that I've made. And if I can grant myself that grace, I have to grant it to other people. But with the time we have, I love that there's plenty more to say. I do want to play A clip that you sent me about like, oh yeah, having babies when you're 10 years old or something.

[A]

Let's take a look in their early 20s, right? Then their early 30s. Just, just by.

[C]

Forget.

[E]

What are you talking about 20s? Look at this, look at this. Mainstream NPC.

[A]

No, no, no.

[E]

Kids should be having, should be having kids when they're, when they're in their teens. That's, when they're, that's when they're supposed to have. Now you can argue that maybe there's a reason to stretch it out a little bit, but if we're just talking about physical ability and, and depth of, well, of energy, what archetype is this not be politically correct? Let's just admit you're supposed to be having kids. You're 16, 17, 18, and be done by the time in your 20s so that you can, so you can have your kids working on the farm by.

[A]

The time you're 40s.

[E]

I mean, it's a. I mean, I regret not having kids even at the age of 33. I regret not having them earlier because I'm like, geez, this would have been so much easier when I was younger. I've been with my wife since we were 15 though, so it's a lot easier for me would be like, oh, but Palmer, how do you know it's the right person? I'm like, geez, we should have just obviously had kids when we were 16. It would have worked out just fine.

[A]

Just buckle up. Cameron, this reason I said this to you, I need to give you the lore of this person before you.

[D]

Are you a medieval noble who's trying to betroth me to your six year old daughter?

[A]

I am not. But I do think that it might be time for you to start getting out there with the young ladies you're dating and maybe they should pull the goalie and just kind of see what happens. But we'll talk about that in a minute. Palmer Luckey, who's speaking there is really an infamous character. He started Oculus that got bought by Facebook when he was a young person.

[D]

Wait, the guy with the fucking look right there?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That guy is like a multi billionaire. I didn't just send you some random person on the Internet. That person is a multi billionaire. Palmer Lucky's sister is married to Matt Gaetz. Palmer Luckey just did an interview with Barry Weiss where he was, you know, kind of advancing some pretty far right views over for her podcast and. Barry Weiss?

[D]

Yeah, with Barry Weiss, who reports directly to Ellison. He was doing far right Views. What a concept.

[A]

I know. And, and I had lunch with him. I had lunch with Palmer Lucky maybe 8 years ago, because he was. He had this new idea that's worked out well, which is kind of some border technology the government is now investing in. That's like some unma. It's like kind of invisible fencing for the border, basically. It's more complicated than that. But that's the gist. And he wanted to get the establishment Republicans in on it, like, because it was like the far right Tea Party guys that were in on it. And someone told. We had a mutual friend. Someone told him that I could maybe help him get in with the McCain types of the world. We had lunch. Over lunch, this man picked his nose and ate it during lunch. It was the most disgusting lunch I've ever had with anyone in my life. He was slurping his miso soup is very yucky. I found him very scary. And here he is now, big Trumper and act and active and advocating for child, child marriage and child rearing.

[D]

We need to do away with this image that a lot of people in the media have of billionaires as people wearing fitted suits with million dollar haircuts. Like a lot of these guys are weird fucking hippies. No, hate to hippies. By the way, I've been to a preponderance of Grateful Dead shows. I'm just saying we. No more Bruce Wayne billionaires. A lot of these people are as freaky as anyone. I was gonna say as anyone in Burning Man. But a lot of people at Burning man are pretty rich too. So moral of the story.

[A]

So what do you think about a anti immigrant hardliner billionaire who has influence with the administration and has influence with people at the height of media power, like Barry Weiss arguing for 16 year olds having children. Mr.

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[A]

I wonder what your take is on that.

[D]

You know, I want to have kids whenever I can, like very comfortably afford kids. I don't want to have kids when I can marginally afford having kids. I want to have kids when I can have kid money and then some spare money. But I am also in many ways prepared for adulthood in ways that a lot of people my age are not. Largely because a good amount of my close personal friends already have children and teach me a lot of things about parenthood, the good, the bad and the ugly that many young parents do not learn. So that's a different story. But the idea of people reproducing at that age, like people like. What's his name? Palmer Lucky. Is that just his username or is that his, his last name?

[A]

That is his real life name, his.

[D]

Christ given name or did he change it?

[A]

I mean, I've not seen the long form birth certificate, but I understand it to be his Christ given name.

[D]

A lot of those people are so obsessed with genes like so many of them get. I'm not calling you need to reproduce when you're 16, white supremacist. But it's from the same genre of like obsessing over biology and things like that in a way that seems very unhealthy because, you know, 16 year olds, 15 year olds, 14 year olds were in fact reproducing during the medieval era. But just because somebody's body can do something does not mean their mind should have to do it. Like the psychological toll that that can take on somebody. Imagine if, imagine your 16 year old daughter dealing with postpartum before she even knows how to deal with the fucking sat. Like, I feel like it's almost redundant to talk about how psychotic this is.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. I saw a tweet from somebody that's actually more on the right, which, which gives a little more credence just because it's a self critique of their side where he was like, I don't think anybody who actually was raised by a 16 year old mom would agree with this take. And he's. And I say that coming from somebody who was raised by a really amazing 16 year old mom, it's just like anybody that has to live through all of this, anybody has to know what it's like, particularly to be a single mom at that age. And parenting is very challenging. And as a representative of the pronatalist wing of this podcast, I do think people should have kids. Kids are great. But this is crazy. And I think the craziest part and why it's worth mentioning is just that it's like these sort of fringe right cultural views, like we want child marriage and natalism. And as you mentioned, the not saying Palmer Lucky is this view, but kind of related, kind of eugenicist, get out the calipers, white supremacy, stuff like all of that is floating around at the most influential, highest levels of our government in a way that it wasn't, you know, during past Republican administrations.

[D]

And you get a lot of it through this Trojan horse of pronatalism. You get a lot of it through, oh, we're having a population crisis. The same people who want us to have net negative migration, by the way, are talking about how there aren't enough people in this country. But a lot of these individuals want young people to be reproducing and they don't want government services to help these people start families. And again, I feel almost redundant saying this because this is kind of one of the quintessential defining traits of the right socially right now is have kids, start families, don't expect any help, don't expect any resources, don't expect any jobs, expect your grocery bills to be higher and your baby food to be higher because of tariffs and everything. But also you need to reproduce and have children.

[A]

Lastly, on this, just in case anybody's doubting what kind of propaganda is being put out about these people, the guy that you watched in that video on the podcast with his flavor Saver Talking about 16 year olds having babies. This was the promotional poster for his event with Bari Weiss that the Free Press put out. Palmer Lucky on the future of American power. America at 250 looking up like, this man, this man is a maverick and he is a hero.

[D]

Imagine being a billionaire and not having a better headshot than that. This looks like the poster for an event at like a high school that was graphic designed by somebody using Ms. Paint. Everybody, thank you so much for tuning in. Another revelatory episode of FYpod. We'll be seeing you soon. We've got a crazy episode this weekend. Harry Sisson got shat on by Donald Trump in an AI video. We're going to talk to him about that masturbation and much more. See you all soon.

[A]

Peace.