country music & corporate fashion w/ margo oshry 🤠💗

Summary

Podcast Summary: Gals on the Go – “Country Music & Corporate Fashion w/ Margo Oshry”

Date: April 22, 2026
Hosts: Danielle Carolan (Brooke is absent)
Guest: Margo (Margot) Oshry
Theme: Girl talk on country music obsession, festival fashion, navigating influencer life, career moves, and the personal quirks of social media.

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Episode Overview

This episode features a lively, candid conversation between Danielle and guest co-host Margo Oshry, who steps in for Brooke. From festival fashion discourse and country music fangirling to the realities of working a corporate job as an influencer, the episode delivers the signature "girls catching up" energy. The two besties delve into TikTok’s fashion police, the chaos of festival season (Coachella and Stagecoach), and social media etiquette, sprinkled with pop culture, personal travel quirks, and friendship tea. Expect laugh-out-loud moments, niche internet references, and truly authentic perspectives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Introducing Margo & Catching Up

• [01:02] Danielle welcomes Margo, noting Brooke's absence and joking about Margo being a “replacement brunette.”
• They reminisce about previous podcast appearances and their dogs (especially Magnolia, Margot’s Cavalier King Charles Spaniel).
• [02:15] Both realize they unintentionally dressed like each other, showing how their friendship influences their style.

TikTok Commentary & Work Fashion Drama

• [03:47] Danielle asks Margo about her polarizing work outfits on TikTok.
• Margo: “It’s really confusing because it’s just my work outfits... It’s like, they want me to put my whole fudgeing chest into my outfit every day.” ([04:00])
• The comments, sometimes harsh, frequently compare her to a “bank teller” or “magician” for professional attire.
• Margo embraces the engagement: “Some of the comments are really funny. I have to give credit where it’s due.” ([04:18])
• [05:50] Both share perspectives on office and school dress codes, with personal anecdotes from high school.

Panic of the Week

• [09:33] Danielle introduces the “Panic of the Week.”
• Margo: Panicking over Passover (craving bread!) and handling brand/influencer responsibilities at Coachella:
  • “This is where it gets a little murky...I’d be with so many of my influencer friends like I’m the brand.” ([10:36])
  • Manifests that everything will work out for Stagecoach/Coachella logistics.

Festival Fashion, Country Trends, and Lineups

• [12:10] Outfit trends for Coachella and Stagecoach:
  • Margo prefers “off-duty vibes” (T-shirt, shorts, boots), pushes back on critiques about cowboy boots in festival looks.
• [14:42] Discussion on changing dynamics between festivals; Coachella’s more diverse lineup vs. Stagecoach’s deep country roots.
• [15:12] They read and react to the Stagecoach lineup, rating headliners and underrated artists.

Extensive Country Music Fandom

• [15:18 – 18:02] Line-by-line enthusiasm for Stagecoach performers:
  • Margo fangirls: “Kojo [Cody Johnson], I fudgeing love Kojo. His lyrics are insane.” ([15:18])
  • Deep dives into Ella Langley, Lainey Wilson, Little Big Town, and Post Malone’s set.
  • Danielle: “You know, I love Brandon Lake… but I’m not running to listen to Bailey Zimmerman.”

Concert Culture & “Going with Margo”

• [24:03] Danielle describes the infectious experience of going to concerts with Margo:
  • “You have to be prepared… that camera is out for every song.”
  • Margo: “Music like feeds my soul.” ([24:53])

Influencer Life: Work, Social, and Online Identity

• [29:29] Margo recaps her experience hosting Luke Combs’ album event in Vegas:
  • “Quite literally me, my two best friends and Luke’s team just in an empty stadium. A personal, intimate concert of my favorite artist... It was fucking insane.” ([31:08])
  • Shares feelings around imposter syndrome and career milestones.

Social Media Etiquette and Quirks

• [43:04+] The duo gets deep into Instagram rituals:
  • Removing shoes and reclining on planes – “Let my freak flag fly!”
  • [45:19] Danielle confesses to once removing “shamelessly romanticizing” from her bio, only to be told to put it back.
  • [46:38] Margo obsesses over IG profile pic choices, the hearts around her name, and the etiquette on changing social handles.

Close Friends, Instagram Ratios, and Online Boundaries

• [54:25] Discussion about replying to stories, being nosy, and “close friends” circle trust:
  • “I do wish… I could see if someone screenshot it!” ([55:42])
• Margo and Danielle reminisce about their days of obsessively curating Instagram follow ratios, noting they’re more relaxed now.

Trending Topics, Names, and Getting Older

• [58:21] Quickfire on last names and their pronunciation challenges:
  • Danielle: “I say Carolyn.”
  • Margo: “I say Ashrae, but there’s like, Oshri, Ashri, so many variations.”
• Reflection on aging: “Getting older is so sad and scary.” ([53:35])
• Touches on planning birthdays and social pressures around parties.

Finishing with Country Obsession & Future Plans

• [60:12] Lyrics moment: “The boys in the back with the beers up high, and the girls in the front row singing every line...”
• Dreaming about national park trips and the unique spirit of New York as a home base ([63:12])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On TikTok Fashion Critics:
  “It’s just my work outfits. It’s like they want me to put my whole fudgeing chest into my outfit every day.” – Margo, [04:00]

• On Responding to Haters:
  “You look like a bank teller... someone commented ‘This outfit would eat with capris and kitten heels’ and I commented back, ‘Yeah, if I was going to brunch with the girls. I’m going to the office!’” – Margo, [05:22]

• On Festival Unpredictability:
  “Stagecoach I could do in a heartbeat… Coachella, it’s like: this is my house but I don’t know my way around, you know?” – Margo, [11:39]

• On Country Fandom:
  “Kojo, I fudgeing love Kojo. His lyrics are insane.” – Margo, [15:18]
  “I love songs like that that just make me happy to be alive.” – Margo, about Ella Langley’s new music, [17:30]

• On Instagram Identity:
  “Like, what it is is no longer a representation of who I am.” – Margo, about changing her profile pic, [46:38]

• On Networking & Close Friends:
  “People don’t talk about influencer close friends enough. It’s so tea.” – Margo, [55:19]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:02 – Meet Margo; dog chat
• 03:47 – TikTok fashion debates and work outfits
• 09:33 – Panic of the Week (Passover/Career/Festival Season)
• 14:42 – Coachella vs. Stagecoach; fashion and festival chat
• 15:12–18:02 – Stagecoach lineup breakdown, country music deep dive
• 24:03 – The reality of going to concerts with Margo
• 29:29–32:00 – Luke Combs event story; balancing influencer and “real” job
• 43:04 – Quirky IG etiquette, airplane rituals
• 54:25 – Instagram interactions, “close friends” discourse
• 60:12 – Country song lyrics love, festival plans
• 63:12 – New York as a home base, wrapping up

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Original Tone & Vibe

True to Gals on the Go style, the episode is fast-moving, unfiltered, comedic, and deeply relatable. Both hosts keep it candid and honest, touching on insecurities, professional mishaps, and internet culture without pretense. The dynamic is warm, with plenty of playful jabs, and listeners are made to feel like part of a group chat between best friends.

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Final Thoughts

This is a must-listen for anyone who loves a blend of pop culture, influencer realities, and personal anecdotes—especially if you’re festival bound or a country music fan. With Margo’s industry insight and Danielle’s energy, expect to laugh, nod along, and maybe screenshot a tip or two for your IG.

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“You can yell at me about my TikTok—about my work outfits on TikTok. I really, like, don’t get offended!” – Margo, [63:45]

Transcript

[Margot Ashray]

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[Danielle Carolyn]

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[Danielle Carolyn]

We have to talk about something.

[Margot Ashray]

You curse on this podcast.

[Danielle Carolyn]

They're not used to influencers having a job. You don't know this love for nothing. But I kind of feel like I liked her more before you. You know what? I've noticed. I do. Recently.

[Margot Ashray]

I'm so scared.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No. What are you saying?

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, my God.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I don't think Brooke knows that either.

[Margot Ashray]

It's so crazy.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Hello, you guys. What's up? Welcome back to Gals on the Go podcast. I'm Danielle.

[Margot Ashray]

And I'm Margo. And I'm so happy to be here. Sorry, Brooks. Sorry, Brooke.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Sorry, Brooke. Brooke has been replaced. It is crazy. I just have another brunette here in the studio.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, you can't even tell the difference. Brooke is basically here.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Brooke is basically here. Guys, Margo Usher is in the studio with us today. You've been on the podcast at least one other time.

[Margot Ashray]

Yes. I remember we recorded in Brooke's apartment when she lived in the city and. Yeah, that was so fun. That was. Feels like so long ago. It wasn't Mags there.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Probably.

[Margot Ashray]

Probably.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Definitely. Because she was on. On the couch. Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. She's only not here because I came from work, otherwise, you know, that would be here.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, my God, she's the cutest. It's funny calling, like, a female dog a.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, you literally, like, cross my mind.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Because I'm four years old. I'm like, no, later.

[Margot Ashray]

You're four years old.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I know. I was like, that cutie little girl.

[Margot Ashray]

She's a cute little girl.

[Danielle Carolyn]

What's. What's her brand? Her brand?

[Margot Ashray]

Her brand. Her brand is she's a Cavalier. King Charles spaniel. Yeah. We love her. We love her. In this house, your whole family.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Does anyone not have a Cavalier?

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, Olivia doesn't have a Cavalier. But, you know, like, my family hates Magnolia. That's a joke.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, of course. I'm very aware. Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

It's, like, so upsetting.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Wait, I didn't know Olivia didn't have.

[Margot Ashray]

She doesn't have a dog.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, she doesn't have a dog at all.

[Margot Ashray]

She doesn't have a dog.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, I guess I. Yeah, I guess I knew that because I never hear that name.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, no, just Romeo, Bruno, Magnolia.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So cute. Well, I'm really grateful that you're here. She's fresh from work. It's so funny, you guys, if you're watching on YouTube, I am wearing, like, a very Margot outfit. Cause I was like, she would totally wear this, like, this little fashion pass. Nothing.

[Margot Ashray]

No, that's literally what I would wear to work. And then I was like, I'm gonna dress, like, cool, like Danielle. And we didn't even talk about it. And we literally dress like each other.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, I'm obsessed. I was also half asleep when I saw your story this morning. Because every day I used to get excited. Margo used to post, like, the weather every morning.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I miss that. She would, like, walk.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, yeah. I was, like a news correspondent.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And then that just stopped. Stopped. I wasn't getting the weather. So now I get your outfits everywhere.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. I mean, it just, like, it was a moment in time. Like, I just, like, I don't even check the weather anymore. Like, I just. I didn't really. And it's so funny because, like, at the time, I didn't think anyone gave a. Everyone was probably like, why is this girl, like, acting like a meteorologist? Do you curse on this podcast?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yes.

[Margot Ashray]

Okay.

[Danielle Carolyn]

We said already.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, so true. That's, like, not a curse.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I say.

[Margot Ashray]

I say. And so I didn't think really anyone cared. Everyone's probably like, why is she, like, talking about the weather? Like, it's so, like, not like, my brand. And then I stopped, and everyone was like, oh, my God, Margot. Like, I used to, like, go to your stories for the weather. And then I was like, oh, that's so interesting. I'm not gonna do it again. But good to know.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, good to know.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You wear your little Care Bears puffer jacket. I know.

[Margot Ashray]

You know, I didn't bring that out once this winter.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, so you still have it?

[Margot Ashray]

Wait, you just. Duh.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, I'm just.

[Margot Ashray]

That's like. That's like an. An heirloom at this point.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, frame.

[Margot Ashray]

I should frame it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You'll have, like, an archives room in your house one day.

[Margot Ashray]

I feel it 100%. Like, because I am a hoarder.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. Well, no, you're not a hoarder, but you do have these really cool pieces, which. We have to talk about something. Wait.

[Margot Ashray]

I'm so scared.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You are?

[Margot Ashray]

No TikTok comments.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Is that what you're going to say?

[Danielle Carolyn]

You are so polarizing with your outfits recently.

[Margot Ashray]

So crazy. And I don't know why. Like, it's really, like, it's really confusing because it's just my work outfits. Like, no one really Complains about, like, my, like, going out outfits, anything like that. It's just my work outfits. And it's like they want me to put my whole fudgeing chest into my outfit every day. And I'm like, I kind of do in the sense of, like, I do get, like, I do get dressed up every day. Like, I'm not wearing like, leggings and a sweatshirt, but. But it's like, oh, if I don't do my hair. Oh, my God.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, is that okay?

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, no. It's so many things. It's like, do my hair. It's like, it's so oily like that. Oh. Like, the. Honestly, the comments are like, it's a really. It's a really special place of the Internet. It's like, I imagine it's. I imagine it's probably what goes down on Reddit. I just wouldn't know because I never go there. But like, I think my comments are like, what they would be saying about my outfit on Reddit. They've just gotten really bold to, like, put it out there. Yeah. And I'm like, you know what? It's fine. My engagement is amazing. And some of the comments, like, are really funny. Like, I have to give credit where it's due. I just don't understand, like, why the outfit. Why the outfit is, like, so triggering to them. Because it's literally just like a button down and like flare pants or like trousers.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I feel like it's almost become this thing now. Like, they wait for your work outfit

[Margot Ashray]

now so that they can hit on it. And you know what? I'm fine with it. Like, I literally don't care.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, it's more engagement and it's kind of funny.

[Margot Ashray]

And it's just like this funny bit.

[Danielle Carolyn]

100. And I'll never get so offended about people hating my outfits because I. I like them.

[Margot Ashray]

Right, Right. And also it's like I wore this, like, teal, like, silk button dy. I love it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

The household.

[Margot Ashray]

Thank you. Yes.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So beautiful.

[Margot Ashray]

And everyone was like, you look like a bank teller. Like, you look like a magician or like, whatever. And someone commented, they were like, this would eat with like, capris and kitten heels. And I commented back. I was like, yeah, if I was going to brunch with the girls, like, I'm going to the office. Like, that's where I'm just like, you guys are just like, missing the plot here. Like, I'm just trying to, like, look like professional.

[Danielle Carolyn]

They're not used to influencers.

[Margot Ashray]

It's so true. It's so True. And, like, I'm just like, the guinea pig. Like, it's fine.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, it is. It's been really entertaining. You do, though. The reason I thought of that. You do have these, like, really interesting designer pieces. Like those Prada shoes you posted the other day. Are they Prada? The white ones with, like, a metal.

[Margot Ashray]

The Balenciaga. Those are so. Oh, well, I know. I hate that they're Balenciaga, but I got it before, like, all the problems, you know?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Of course.

[Margot Ashray]

But those are really boring, polarizing. Not because they're Balenciaga, because people just think they're heinous.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Did you wear them recently? Like, I have.

[Margot Ashray]

I wore them recently with that. With the. With the. With the blue jeans and then the. The light blue sweater and the white shirt underneath.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, and they didn't like that?

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, my God. That. No, right. I thought so, too. No, they literally. That one, like, really went off. Like, people were just like. It was so crazy. Yeah. I do have a lot of very interesting designer pieces. And, like, sue me for, like, trying to be different and not buying the same things that everyone else buys.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I think it's the coolest thing ever. I always love seeing the pieces that you pick out because they're so. They're like, literally, like, art pieces.

[Margot Ashray]

Thank you. That is so nice.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Trying to sound intellectual.

[Margot Ashray]

Intellectual. I try. Spend a lot of time on the real real.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So you can wear jeans to the office? Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Yes, I can wear jeans to the office.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Is there. Are there any rules?

[Margot Ashray]

No, Literally. I don't even think there's actually any rules, like, in the handbook, but I feel like the vibe is, like, just, like, don't look like a slob.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Do people wear, like, activewear? Like, buttoned up activewear?

[Margot Ashray]

I have seen people wear activewear, but,

[Danielle Carolyn]

like, you're not dress coding anybody.

[Margot Ashray]

I'm not dress coding, no. There's been, like, a few times, like, when I've been like, what are you wearing? But I would never obviously say anything because I think it's, like, a choice. And, like, some people, like, are more comfortable and maybe are more productive when they're in a sweatshirt.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No. 100%. This made me think. Do you want to know a fun fact about me?

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, my God. I would love to know a fun fact about me.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I think I've ever talked about this. It's nothing crazy. I'm setting this up. So my senior year of high school, I was a prefect, which means I dress coded people.

[Margot Ashray]

I feel like you must have loved that.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You know what? I never dress coded Anything.

[Margot Ashray]

Because you're serious.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It was good for the college resume, though. And, like, I loved the badge. And I was so scared, though, because I was like, but her skirt's so cute. Like, it's so short.

[Margot Ashray]

I'm sick.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So I actually. Yes, you would think. But I never.

[Margot Ashray]

I would have loved that job.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, I know.

[Margot Ashray]

I would have loved that job. I would have been like, oh, my God, do you see what she's wearing today? Dress code.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, I know, it's crazy. And then I went back to my high school in the last, like, five years for something, and the dress goes out the window.

[Margot Ashray]

I was gonna say, I can't even imagine what they're wearing.

[Danielle Carolyn]

They just get. But I'm like, this is nowhere. Cuz I actually had to wear.

[Margot Ashray]

Collins. What was. Okay, what was your dress? I had a crazy dress, honestly.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, kind of what you wear to work every day. So it's fun. Like, I got to really dress cute. Except no jeans, but it was, like, very preppy. It was collared shirts. You know, we wore a lot of Bermuda shorts.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, interesting.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You had a uniform.

[Margot Ashray]

I. It wasn't like a uniform, but I went to Jewish day school, and so we had to wear. And it was like modern Orthodox, so we had to wear skirts to our knees. Like, no one ever did. But, like, I did get skirted. I would get skirted a lot. Like, skirted. That's what it was called if you got skirted. Like, you had to go to the office and they had skirts down to your ankles that you had to wear. So, like, if you wore. If you were wearing one, it's like, oh, she got skirted.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I'm obsessed with that.

[Margot Ashray]

Lord, no. Oh, my God. So we had to wear skirts, and then, like, obviously shirts didn't matter. I don't think there was anything specifically collared. No, but like, in middle schools, like, you couldn't wear. I think it was like, stripes or words. Like, it had to be solids, right? I think it had to be solids. But yeah, this was like, you. I think you could wear, like, anything. We just had to wear a skirt as far as I recall.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Could you wear a V neck?

[Margot Ashray]

You could wear a V neck, but if you couldn't be shown titty.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Well, that's what.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, I guess, like, it'd be like.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like here with the, like, Victoria's Secret push up.

[Margot Ashray]

No, no, no, no. There was no cleavage happening.

[Danielle Carolyn]

What about tanks?

[Margot Ashray]

Now you can share your arms.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So, okay, so like, any shirt and then a skirt?

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, basically. Well, not anything, honestly, but I Look so cute because I would, like, you. You would wear, like, your skirt. Like, I. I'd wear my skirt, like, mid thigh.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

And, like, I could probably get away with it. Like, a cute collared shirt and, like. Like, boots or flats. Like, I would. By the way. It's, like, literally what I would wear now to work.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Literally.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So it kind of works out.

[Margot Ashray]

It works out. It all comes.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So we do something on the podcast called Panic of the Week, and I want to know. I mean, I have the honor of being on your close friend story, so I. Oh, yeah. Seeing things you're panicked about.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But do you have anything you could share with people that you've been panicking about recently?

[Margot Ashray]

What can I publicly panic about? Oh, yeah. I'm. Two things. Sorry. I forgot that we literally went over this.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, don't worry. I prepped.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. No, no. One that it's Passover. I'm gonna Passover panic because I'm starving.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, literally, she walked in, she's like, I need an almond.

[Margot Ashray]

Here. They're right here.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. Emergency almond.

[Margot Ashray]

Emergency almond. I'm starving. I just, like, really, like, need bread or rice or just something other than, like, so soon. It's so, like, not really. It's Monday. It's Monday, and it ends Friday night. So that is putting me in a panic, because I'm just ravenous, and then Curcelli is putting me in a panic.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Is that what you've been calling to ease the stress?

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. So I have a corporate job, as we know, and so I'm doing a lot for my corporate job at Curcelli. Like, it's so crazy. It's so crazy. Like, this is where, like, it gets a little murky.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So I'm just, like.

[Margot Ashray]

It's, like, a little weird. Well, I mean, I obviously was like, I didn't. I turned down anything I could from a personal perspective for Coachella, because I was like, there's quite literally no way I can do all of it. Like, no shot. But, yeah, it's, like, so weird because it's, like, also, it's like, I would, like, be with so many of my influencer friends. Like, Like, I'm the brand.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, here are your deliverables.

[Margot Ashray]

No, literally. No, no, literally.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, guys submit.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, people are, like, sending it to me to, like, approve. Like, and I'm just like, this is, like, kind of, like, where it gets,

[Danielle Carolyn]

like, a little awkward, weird.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, we have contracts, and, like, you do a good job of it, like, though, I think. So I try and make it as, like, Normal as possible. Because I also, like, don't want not. I want it to also be like. It's like these people are actually my friends.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

And now, like, you know, when people are like, try to befriend the brand person. That's not what this is.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No.

[Margot Ashray]

So, like, that's like, kind of where it's like the fine line between the two. Yeah. But that's really stressing me out because, like, we have so much going on, like, my company, and, like, it's all kind of like I'm leading it so well.

[Danielle Carolyn]

The good thing is I've gone a stage coach with you many years in a row, and you kind of put plan those weekends.

[Margot Ashray]

No.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So you can kind of take it to the next level with a better budget.

[Margot Ashray]

It's much better budget. But it's also. It's like. The thing is, it's like, I've never been to Coachella. Stagecoach I could do in a heartbeat. I know my way around the grounds. Like, I know everything. Whereas, like, Coachella, from what I've heard, different stages. Like, the whole thing is different. Yeah. So, like, I don't. Like, this is my house, but I don't know my way around, you know?

[Danielle Carolyn]

True.

[Margot Ashray]

So that's kind of like my panic. I really can't wait for April 14th.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It'll be done.

[Margot Ashray]

It'll be done.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Boom. Done. You'll be submitting everything?

[Margot Ashray]

No, I'll be like, no time to recap. But, like, whatever, it's done. My work here is done.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. So do you have outfits for Coachella?

[Margot Ashray]

Like, no, because, like, it's just like, that's just, like, not my priority, you know, like, my vibe is, like, off duty vibes, you know, like, just like a T shirt, like, short shorts, my Addison short, like, and, like, cowboy boots. Even though apparently cowboy boots aren't the vibe for Coachella. Like, I don't know. I don't know.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I mean, I see a lot of people posting, like, what they're gonna wear, and there's a lot of cowboy boots involved. But I'm also like, Stagecoach, which, as this episode's going up, you guys, tomorrow is Stagecoach.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, my God, that is so crazy because, like, I don't have anything booked right now.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, I know. That's so unlikely.

[Margot Ashray]

I know, because it's not my fault, you know, I would book tomorrow. There's a lot of people and things that I need to come, like, get into place in order to do that. And so I'm just kind of hoping and manifesting that it all kind of comes to fruition. But, like, it will because, like, everything always works out.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, a hundred percent. I. It's so crazy. So we were talking about Stagecoach months ago, and I'll be so frilly.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. I was begging her to come and now she's like, oh, I'm going like, with a brand and like, you can go yourself. That's what happened.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I know. It definitely. I found out, like, months ago that I was gonna go to Coachella and I was like, there's no way I could go to Coachella.

[Margot Ashray]

I know I'm afraid to do both

[Danielle Carolyn]

of them, but we're both doing it.

[Margot Ashray]

I know we're both doing it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Support systems.

[Margot Ashray]

No, a thousand percent. But like, you're. At least you're like, gonna like, have fun and stuff.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I am really excited. No, we. We will have fun. But yeah. So I just found out that I'm getting to go to Stagecoach now. So I texted Margo. I was like, if you want to ride together from lax.

[Margot Ashray]

And I was like, like, I'm like, so happy for you. Like, I have nothing planned, but I do actually have the driver booked.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But no, I know that's why you

[Margot Ashray]

asked, cuz you wrote a book. Yeah, no, I know. So yeah. This would be so awkward if, like, this comes out and like, I'm at home and you're in Palm Springs.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Margot, there is nothing that separates you from. From Stagecoach.

[Margot Ashray]

It's so true.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, there is.

[Margot Ashray]

That's so true.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Also, like, some of the people you told me that are going, like, you could go with them. Like.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, no, kind of. I don't know is. Who?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Shannon.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, Shannon. Yeah. But she's only going one day, right?

[Danielle Carolyn]

So you. You at least have a day. Yeah. Yeah. And once.

[Margot Ashray]

I need a place to stay, bro.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, right.

[Margot Ashray]

That's my issue. I have my ticket.

[Danielle Carolyn]

The thing is, like, once I'm like, you could just like, hang with me, you know?

[Margot Ashray]

Totally.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, but would you get like a hotel room to yourself? Like, no.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, no.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Maybe.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, that's a. That's like a little.

[Danielle Carolyn]

We gotta get Emily to stage coach.

[Margot Ashray]

No, Emily, we're getting stage. I'm working on getting her ticket.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Okay.

[Margot Ashray]

And so then, like, we'll figure it out by the.

[Danielle Carolyn]

This.

[Margot Ashray]

We'll. By the time this comes out, we'll probably cut this out because it will no longer be relevant.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Cut it out enough. But yeah, those. That's the thing. I've seen a lot of people post about, like Coachella, Stagecoach trends, and a lot of it's really intermingling it's like fringe.

[Margot Ashray]

It's like, the same thing.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So I'm.

[Margot Ashray]

But I also feel like most people are doing Coachella. Like, I feel like there's was this, like, shift of, like, everyone was going to Stagecoach, and then now Coachella's back because they have such an insane lineup. And, like, the Stagecoach lineup is very, like, country. Like, it's. Which I think they did on purpose. I think they're trying to weed out, like, no offense, like, the people who, like, don't know country music and are just like, oh, stage coach, like, whatever. So I think they purposely made it, like, pretty main. Not mainstream, like, country.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, they did. So I'm going to read off a couple. I'm going to read off the lineup because it's tomorrow and it's.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, my God. Okay. Yeah, I'm excited.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Award show season, country music. Like, there's just so much. So much, you know? So headlining Friday night, we have Cody Johnson.

[Margot Ashray]

I am, like, he's. He's who I'm most excited to see the whole time. Kojo. I fudgeing love Kojo. He's so good. He's such a good performer. His music is so fucking good, and his lyrics are insane. I love him.

[Danielle Carolyn]

His lyrics are really good.

[Margot Ashray]

His lyrics are, like, so deep. Like, the painter is insane.

[Danielle Carolyn]

That song is so good.

[Margot Ashray]

Till you can. If you got a chance, take it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, it's so, like, it makes you want to cry.

[Margot Ashray]

No, same. All of his music makes me want to cry.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, that one's. That one played the other day and I shed a tear. Yeah, it's really good.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I think we might have seen him together at Stagecoach one year, but he wasn't headlining.

[Margot Ashray]

Did we?

[Danielle Carolyn]

I think he's like, the second line.

[Margot Ashray]

Or you might be right. I wonder. I feel, like, so bad. I saw him, I think, at CMA Fest, like, a couple years ago, but by the way, if he did performance, stage coach in the past, like, five or six years there.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Are you a Bailey Zimmerman girl? Like, I can't, like, tell you one of his song names, but I think we know.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I. And I. He's. I've actually weirdly seen him, like, a bunch of times. And, like, he is, like, a very good entertainer, but if I'm like, oh, Bailey Zimmerman dropped a new album. I'm not, like, running to listen to it. That's kind of my barometer.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Instagram story.

[Margot Ashray]

No, like, everyone. Yeah. And, like, honestly, like, you know, I love Brandon Lake and I love Brandon Lake and Bailey Zimmerman and Brandon, like, released a Song, like, a couple of weeks ago. It's like, the one Brandon like song I, like, don't like.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, damn.

[Margot Ashray]

And I, like, automatically added it to my place. I was like, of course I'm going to like it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Nay, the craziest thing is that Ella Langley is on the third line.

[Margot Ashray]

Okay. But here's the thing. When Stagecoach lineup came out and I saw that, it kind of made sense. Now I'm like, homegirl should be headlining. She is. I'm legitimately obsessed with her. I know you are, too, Ella fella.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And, like, just not for nothing, but I kind of feel like I liked her more before you.

[Margot Ashray]

You did? For sure.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I saw the Claudia. I was like, wait.

[Margot Ashray]

It took me a minute to get there. I never, like, hated. No, but I was just, like, I wasn't dying for her. And, like, when. And it's so funny. I feel like I was talking about this, like, a month ago or something. I was like, oh, when she releases her new album, like, I'm not, like, I'll listen to, like, the singles, but, like, I'm not, like, you know, the way I did Megan Moroney, where I was like, I need to listen top to bottom. And it was my whole personality.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I.

[Margot Ashray]

My perspective has completely shifted. Like, now I'm like, I can't wait. Like, Loving Life Again is one of the best songs I've ever heard, like, of all time.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's so, like, she's just crushing it.

[Margot Ashray]

She's just crushing it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Hits the soul, but it's not, like, sad. It's just. It's that perfect country music.

[Margot Ashray]

And I love songs like that that just, like, make me happy to be alive.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

And I feel like that's what, like, country music is, like, so much of the music is just, like, makes you, like, just happy and appreciate, like, whatever. And I'm like, this is the perfect country song.

[Danielle Carolyn]

That's so true. Like, windows down, Windows down, Life is a highway. No, I know. It's pretty crazy. Do you think. Because I saw Riley Green's the next night. Oh, maybe on purpose? Like, they're not on the same nights. Like, will they, though? I'm sure they'll do their song together.

[Margot Ashray]

Definitely not. No shot. No shot.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You don't think?

[Margot Ashray]

No.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Damn. You hate to see it.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I just love their song.

[Margot Ashray]

I know.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I feel like they have two songs.

[Margot Ashray]

Don't mind if I do. And you look like you love me.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I'm just reading random ones. And then the next night, Lainey Wilson, which, you know what? I listen to a Lot of her music.

[Margot Ashray]

Do you. I think she'll be a really good performer.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's gonna be how? Like, when Carrie under or no.

[Margot Ashray]

Carrie Underwood was insane.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, Insane. But I feel like she has that same energy.

[Margot Ashray]

I, like, wouldn't equate the two. However, I do feel confident that she'll bring out good people.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. Like, who would she bring out?

[Margot Ashray]

I don't know. I feel like she could bring out anyone.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, I can't think of any song she's done with people. But you're right.

[Margot Ashray]

She had one with Miranda Lambert. I would love if she brought up Miranda.

[Danielle Carolyn]

She could bring out literally anyone, because she has done every country award show she's hosted so much. She's, like, friends with everyone.

[Margot Ashray]

She's friends with everyone. For sure.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Friend of the industry.

[Margot Ashray]

She's. She's someone, say, in industry.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I know we always think she.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, no, but honestly, like, I'm being a. Like, she actually is great, and she's a really good performer.

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[Margot Ashray]

GotG when you see her, like, she has so much energy. Like, she really is a performer.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Hey, y'. All.

[Margot Ashray]

No enjoyed, like, her pants, and she's like, you know, I don't know. The more we talk about it, the more I'm kind of more excited.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, maybe we're. Yeah, you guys. And the thing is, you guys are gonna see our Instagram stories belting every song, especially Margot.

[Margot Ashray]

0.5. Like, oh, my God, it's gonna be like, Lady Bells in this performance changed my life. Like, that's. That's exactly what's gonna happen, guys. Sorry.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Speaking of 0.5, I don't think we've Ever talked about this on the podcast? Like, going to a concert with Margot,

[Margot Ashray]

you have to be prepared.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Be prepared. Know every lyric. No, you will get, like, that camera is out for every song.

[Margot Ashray]

It's so true.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, I'm terrified. So then I have, like, a couple moves, you know, like, I'll do this.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, yeah. Block yourself with the hair. Like, that's what it was like. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's so true. I actually, like, think about that. I don't think about that enough of, like, how scary it must be to go to a concert with me. I know, like, how it feels for me, but, like, to be with me, like, it must be, like, absolutely frightening.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's scary in that way, but it's also the most contagious thing. Like, you are so fun to go to concerts with.

[Margot Ashray]

That's, like, the nicest thing anyone could ever say.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Really. So true. Like, I don't know anyone that loves music more than you.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And I feel like you'd agree.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I agree. I agree. Music like, like, feeds my soul.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.

[Margot Ashray]

Thank you.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But, yeah, you have to be prepared. Like, if you were to say, danielle, do you want to go to the. I'm trying to think of someone that you like, that I like. Brandon Lake concert. I'd be screwed. Like, I wouldn't know a song and I'd say no because I'll be in the background of every video.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, no, literally, I'm crying and you're the Christian and I'm the Jew.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, this is true. Yeah, I forgot. He's like worship music.

[Margot Ashray]

He's literally worship music. I actually wouldn't go to a Brandon Lake concert because I do feel like maybe that's sacrilegious. Like, maybe that's too far. I think that might be too far.

[Danielle Carolyn]

The most special thing was that stagecoach when he brought. Who was it?

[Margot Ashray]

Deliro. Brought him out for Hard fought. Hallelujah. Oh, my God. And I was literally, like, there.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You were literally worshiping.

[Margot Ashray]

I was like, this is, like, the only chance I'll get because, like, it wasn't in my control.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, a little taste.

[Margot Ashray]

No.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Do you. Does your. When you go to church, is it worship like that?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

And are you like, this is amazing or like, it doesn't matter if when

[Danielle Carolyn]

I'm really in it, I'm in it. But I haven't. I am. I. I haven't gone in so long.

[Margot Ashray]

You can go for Easter.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, no. But when I went in college, like, it was like, one of Those, like.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, like, Hill Song. Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, my God. I loved it. You'd put your hands. Like, you'd really feel it, and I love that. But it hasn't happened in a while. Yeah, but it is so powerful. It's like when you're at a concert

[Margot Ashray]

and you're like, no, totally. And, like, there's nothing better than, like, a choir. Like, seriously. And even in, like. Like, regular mainstream music, like, a choir always will get me.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, my God. Absolutely. I'm just looking at the. I'm not ignoring you. I'm just looking at.

[Margot Ashray]

I didn't think you were, like, on your phone texting.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, thank God. Do you like Little Big Town? Like, why. Like, why do I. I think. I think they've just been around a long time.

[Margot Ashray]

They've been. I've also, like, never. I, like, I remember when they were, like, really popular. What? When we were in, like, high school or something. And, like, I was like, they weren't doing it for me then. And then, like, like, Girl Crush. I don't like that song. And I think it's, like, one of the biggest songs in country music. Like, I got a girl crying.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Hey.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, I don't like that song. Better, man. Written by Taylor Swift. Sorry. Taylor's version is better. Like, right.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Of course. Oh, that's so interesting. Yeah. Brooks and Dunn, which will be so love.

[Margot Ashray]

We've seen them at Taste before. They're fabulous.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yes. Hootie and the Blowfish. Was it you that got excited about. Or maybe Katie Bellotti?

[Margot Ashray]

I do love. I think it was Katie Belates. Darius Rucker.

[Danielle Carolyn]

What do you mean?

[Margot Ashray]

That's like, his band.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, so he doesn't do solo anymore?

[Margot Ashray]

No, no, he, like, does both. He dabbles. I, like, don't understand.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Okay. Exciting. Obviously. So Post Malone is headlining.

[Margot Ashray]

I know. Which, like, I do love Post, and I do think he'll be a good performer. And what I will say. He will bring out everyone.

[Danielle Carolyn]

He will.

[Margot Ashray]

I wouldn't be surprised if you brought out, like, Morgan Luke, like, whatever. But I don't know. I would have liked. There's just, like. I feel like country music is at such a high right now. Like, we could have done better.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I completely agree. I feel like he just headlined. Or was he not a headliner?

[Margot Ashray]

He wasn't a headliner, but he was. He's right before.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And he just did the F1 trillion tour. Like, I just feel like we.

[Margot Ashray]

I. We've done it. I. I do feel exhausted from it,

[Danielle Carolyn]

but of course it's going to Be so fun.

[Margot Ashray]

No, it's going to be so here I am, like, combining. Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's just so interesting.

[Margot Ashray]

And then isn't it all. There's also like red clay strays.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yes, Red clay strays. Which?

[Margot Ashray]

Charles Wesley Godwin.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Who?

[Margot Ashray]

Charles Wesley Godwin.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I don't know.

[Margot Ashray]

Is he there?

[Danielle Carolyn]

I don't see Charles. Oh, yeah. Third, fourth line.

[Margot Ashray]

He's so good.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Teddy swims.

[Margot Ashray]

I know you love, love Teddy swims. Oh, my God. I didn't realize that. Oh, I love Teddy swims.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Who else?

[Margot Ashray]

Who's on Sunday? I feel like Sunday's work today.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Sunday. Post Malone, Brooks and Warren Zeters. Third eye. I don't know anyone except for Post Malone, Brooks and Dunn and kind of hooting the Blowfish. Like, literally.

[Margot Ashray]

Wyatt Flora, like, oh, I know why it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Eli Young band. That sounds really fun.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, they sing and I go down and say my feet in the water and such a good time.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I think they're gonna be at like 2:00'. Clock.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, but you know me, I go. I go at two and then I go back to the house.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No Margot, guys, she's insane. She's like, okay, whoever wants to come, we're gonna go. We're doing two shifts. I'm gonna go. I'm come back. I'm gonna change into my other shoes. Like, you have a whole.

[Margot Ashray]

I have a whole system. No, it's so true.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, it's amazing. You've got it down to a size.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, no, I know.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I'm going to vivrel this week to like, pick out some bags.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, I need to do that. We should coordinate. Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Do you really go places on your lunch break or. No. Do you work through your lunch?

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, I go get my soup and I eat it at my desk.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Or like, I'll sit in the kitchen with my work friends and like, gossip. Honestly. Yeah, no, my, like, I have a very good work set up. Thank God. Like, I have a lot of friends at work and like, you know, it's a. It's a good balance of like actually getting done, but also like, if I need to go, like yap or cry, I have people. I can do that too.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And I feel like sometimes you use that telephone booth.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, I'm always in that telephone booth because I sit like out in the open and so like, if I'm taking like a. Not a private call, but yeah, like, if I'm on FaceTime, I'm not like, gonna go, dude, I'm a desk. I don't even hear my, like. Yeah, go into My. Of course, my telephone booth. Wait.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Also, we're just really talking about country music, but that's because Brooke's not here. We can like do it, you know?

[Margot Ashray]

You know, literally, this is for country music lovers.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You just had the craziest week. Oh, with Luke Holmes.

[Margot Ashray]

I did.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Can you just tell everyone briefly if they don't know what you did a couple weeks ago? Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

So basically, Luke Holmes's team flew me out to Vegas.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No big deal.

[Margot Ashray]

To essentially kind of COVID his, like, opening weekend of his stadium tour. And it was kicked off in Vegas, but also his out new album had released. And so they were doing like an album listening party at the stadium the night prior to release. And I hosted it. It was like, with some of his, like, his super fans, his bootleggers, as they call it. And it was basically just like, me, like, and I'd had the album for weeks prior, which was. Was insane, and was like talking them through the album, playing the album. And so, like, that was really cool. And then it was just like everything. And like, for those who don't know, like, Luke Holmes is like my number one. Like, he is. I think his music is so incredible. I think he has such an amazing voice. Like, I love how much he, like, loves his wife and loves his family. And he's such a good Hamish guy and he has such an amazing team around him. Like, seriously couldn't speak more highly of them. And then like the next day he was doing this is the craziest experience of my life. He did a rehearsal, obviously, because it never before seen show at the stadium. And it was like a three it. He has like a 360 stage, like bigger. The biggest short show tour he's ever done. And so he did a full rehearsal in the stadium and I was there. And when I tell you it was quite literally me, my two best friends and Luke's team just in an empty stadium. A personal intimate concert of my favorite artist. Ever imagine that with like Drake? No. It was fucking insane. And I knew it at the time too, which, like, I was like, holy shit. Like, I literally can't believe this is my life. Like, I just was like flipping flippin. And then the next night was the show and it was incredible. And when I like saw Luke, he was like, I saw you rocking out of rehearsals yesterday.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And I was like, why could you not?

[Margot Ashray]

I was like, yeah. I mean, I don't know how you can miss me, but it was the most amazing weekend. Like, I would. I need to do that ever, every weekend again for the Rest of my life. Like, it was so insane. And I was just, like, felt so blessed to be there. Crazy imposter syndrome. But I was just like. Like, I was just like, oh. Like. Yeah. And I've gotten promoted that week. Like, it was. It was a really amazing. It was an amazing week for me.

[Danielle Carolyn]

There's no one more deserving.

[Margot Ashray]

Thank you.

[Danielle Carolyn]

That was so fun to watch. Like, every day I'm like, what is she doing now? Luke Combs related?

[Margot Ashray]

No, literally everything was Luke Combs related. And I went vintage shopping and, like, got the most amazing pieces. It was really a fabulous weekend.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I, like, love Vegas same.

[Margot Ashray]

But, like. No, I do. It's just, like, so overwhelming.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And it's so big, but so fun.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. So have you been to the Sphere?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

For what?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Ryan and I went and saw, like, an Earth show. I forget what it was called.

[Margot Ashray]

Earth, Wind and Fire.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, no, no. Not a concert.

[Margot Ashray]

Not a concert for, like, a.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It was like a nature. I forget what it was called. It was really cool.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, that's cool. You need to see a show there.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I know.

[Margot Ashray]

You need to see each other.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Is it that cool?

[Margot Ashray]

Yes.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Okay.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. It's insane.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It was, like, spooky. When we first walked, did you feel like, whoa, like.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, I felt like I was on a roller coaster.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It trips you out.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But it is really cool. I just, like, love Vegas because you, like, don't know what time it is at all. And it's just, like, fun.

[Margot Ashray]

You literally don't know what time it is, like, at all. Like, you're just, like. It could be light out, it could be dark out. Like, you have no idea. But when we were there was so hot. Like, you couldn't actually stand outside for more than one second. Like, you had to be in a car.

[Danielle Carolyn]

If you were to do a Bachelorette tomorrow, where would you do it? Oh, I, like, talk about this all.

[Margot Ashray]

I always used to say Nashville. But, like, oh, but, like, no, because, like, I've been there so many times, and, like, I don't know. It's, like, kind of. I just, like, I want to live in Nashville. I don't want to do my bachelorette party in Nashville.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Do you really?

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. But now I would do it in Saint Barts.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's basic, but so fun. No, that's not basic. It's hard.

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It's.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You know, it's hard to get there. Yeah. How?

[Margot Ashray]

I've never been, actually. How was your trip?

[Danielle Carolyn]

It was amazing.

[Margot Ashray]

I didn't even talk to you.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It was amazing at the time.

[Margot Ashray]

Of your life.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, if we ever try to do a Cabo trip again, I'm just gonna

[Margot Ashray]

say, St. Bart, I'm. You know that I'm behind you 100. I can't even talk about it. I, like, can't believe that Margot really

[Danielle Carolyn]

tried to make the Cabo trip happen this year. Like, no one tried harder than.

[Margot Ashray]

And by the way, no one tried harder than Margot, and no one also didn't have. I have no. I had no time for it. In hindsight, like, I was gone every single weekend.

[Danielle Carolyn]

When would we have gone?

[Margot Ashray]

I would have figured it out. One thing about me is I figured out.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, I know. The weekend that we maybe almost did. I ended up not being able to do, so I was like, thank God we didn't.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Actually, there was, like, so much stuff going on.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Just, like, for the best.

[Margot Ashray]

It was for the best. But, like, we did. We did do it last year. Yeah, we did it last year. We have to do it next year.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. And maybe at the same part, you

[Margot Ashray]

know, I'm kind of. I'm okay with, like, retiring Cabo.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. It was fun.

[Margot Ashray]

It was fun. It had its moment, though. Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I don't have a Delta flight, or at least. No, they do now.

[Margot Ashray]

No, no, no. I think they just have the JetBlue

[Danielle Carolyn]

and that jet Blue flight. Every time something happens and we're on

[Margot Ashray]

100%, I think it's just time that we upgrade.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's time that we upgrade. We love a lot wants to go to Saint Bar. It's like. Yeah. So we can test it out to see if you, like.

[Margot Ashray]

Okay, done.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But, yeah, done. Nashville. That's so fun. You really could live there. Huh?

[Margot Ashray]

Huh? Every time I go now because, like, now I have, like, a lot of friends who live there. And so, like, it's. It's more just, like, being there as opposed to just. Even though, like, I go to Broadway every night, but, like, it's more being there rather than just, like, doing all the touristy stuff.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

And I just, like, feel this, like, pull to Nashville. I'm never gonna do it, but, I mean, I can talk about it. I know. I know. That's so true.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But I know I only say, oh, my gosh, that's so interesting, because I. Ryan and I always used to always say, like, oh, my God, we live in Nashville. But then I'm like, I love visiting Nashville.

[Margot Ashray]

Right.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And doing the whole weekend there. But obviously you can go to Broadway when you live there.

[Margot Ashray]

And they do.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I see Shannon does it.

[Margot Ashray]

And. Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Our other Friends that live there. But sometimes I'm like, like. But I like it the same. But I guess, yeah, if you're doing, like, I only do the touristy thing.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, no, I like, I don't know. I just like Stewart vibes. I just love it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

What do you think of the Hannah Montana special?

[Margot Ashray]

You know, I obviously liked it. Yeah. I just, like, I feel like they could have for the 20th anniversary because they made it, like, this whole big thing, like, go on tour.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I really thought that was gonna happen.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, that's like, go on tour and like, obviously I. I will eat up whatever they will give me. Like, I thought, like, I never thought there would be a day where like, like, Miley would even, like, really acknowledge Hannah again. Do you know what I mean? So, like, I will eat up anything that you give. But, like, if I had my druthers, like, I want to see you in person. And, like, I wish, like, she, like, did more saying more.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I know. Like, it was just like, yeah, here is.

[Margot Ashray]

It is.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And yeah, random celebrities popping in.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, I didn't need that. I didn't need that at all.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No. And I also. I still am really confused by, like, Jackson. Rod Stewart wasn't there.

[Margot Ashray]

Right? Right.

[Danielle Carolyn]

He was at the premiere, but he wasn't in the so many.

[Margot Ashray]

I just feel like there's a lot more that they could have done. Like, they had a huge opportunity, and I'm not gonna say they failed. They didn't. Because anything I. Literally anything they would have done would have been successful.

[Danielle Carolyn]

However, 100.

[Margot Ashray]

I just, like, would have liked a little bit more.

[Danielle Carolyn]

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[Margot Ashray]

It's just perfect.

[Danielle Carolyn]

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[Danielle Carolyn]

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[Margot Ashray]

So scary.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And I realized I feel like I'm pretty insufferable to sit next to on a plane.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, my God. Wait.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I mean, you and I have definitely

[Margot Ashray]

sat next to each other. We have. And I don't think I've ever thought that. And I would think that.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Okay, good, because that was my first pulse check.

[Margot Ashray]

Okay. It was like, is there something you're not telling me? Oh, no. Wait, what do you do?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Well. Well, maybe it's different if it's someone I know sitting next to me so they wouldn't think anything of it. But I was sitting next to this guy today and I relax. I got upgraded to first class. Oh, okay. Oh, it's late.

[Margot Ashray]

Okay. Obsessed.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I move so much. Like I like.

[Margot Ashray]

You just re like you shift.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I feel like I'm constantly shifting. I also.

[Margot Ashray]

Are you in a window or an aisle?

[Danielle Carolyn]

I was in a window today, but normally I'm an aisle.

[Margot Ashray]

Okay.

[Danielle Carolyn]

What about you?

[Margot Ashray]

Window.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Window. Oh, yeah. Because you always do the mirror or the window.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, I never have a window.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You never have window. I. You know what I've noticed? I do recently.

[Margot Ashray]

I'm so scared.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I take off my shoes.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, I do too.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Okay.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, I do too. But I have socks on. Yeah. What's wrong with that?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Someone said recently, like, oh, my God. And they had their. It might have been broke. I don't know. Someone said it was like. And they, like, took their shoes off. I was like, I fully do that.

[Margot Ashray]

I'm sorry. If it's a long flight. Like, I've got to take my shoes off.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yes. Like, my laces start to hurt the top of my feet.

[Margot Ashray]

Because your feet swell on planes. That's it. And so, like, I need. I just need to let my freak flag fly and I need to take my shoes off.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. And like, if it started to smell. Oh, my God. Oh, for sure.

[Margot Ashray]

Me neither. Like, I have self awareness.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Maybe after like a long dance stage coach.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, of course. But I would never do that. No. I would sooner wash my feet in the bathroom.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Okay. So that actually is surprising to hear from you.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, yeah, no, I. I take my

[Danielle Carolyn]

shoes off because it's so cool. And like, also, it would have to be like, a longer flight.

[Margot Ashray]

It has to be a longer flight. And also. But two, like, I feel like, a lot, obviously now it's. We're coming out of winter. But, like, when it's winter, it's like you're wearing like, Uggs or if you're going to like, Aspen or whatever and you're wearing moon boots. Like, I'm sorry, I'm not wearing those shoes for the entire flight. Like, it's gonna have so much better. Yeah, no, I'm with you.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Cuz also, if you like, I feel

[Margot Ashray]

like the comments are gonna be, like, so divided, but, like, oh, 100%.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, people think I'm disgusting.

[Margot Ashray]

Do you recline?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Me too.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Okay, so we'd be good. Maybe that's it. Yeah, I think. Yes, you recline. That's what it.

[Margot Ashray]

That's what it's there for. Why wouldn't I use it if.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Sure. If you want to do a courtesy look back to see. To make sure they're not like, eating or something. I guess.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I'm reclining.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I'm reclining.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, I. I just. I will literally never understand that I'm paying so much money to sit on this plane. I want to be as comfortable as I can.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, 100. I'm behind you.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It makes me Feel so much better. And then sometimes when I'm, like, pressing on the tv, I'm, like, worried I'm hitting the person in front of me.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, you know, I honestly never touch the tv.

[Danielle Carolyn]

That's when I'm bored. I'm like, I'm not even gonna watch movie, but. What? Movies?

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. Do you get email on planes?

[Danielle Carolyn]

What?

[Margot Ashray]

Like, emotional.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, I thought you said email. No, and I know that some people do.

[Margot Ashray]

I get email on planes.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I think it's a window seat thing.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, for sure.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, I'm in the aisle.

[Margot Ashray]

Where do I. Yeah, no, I'm, like, staring out into, like, the sky and, like, seeing how, like, big and vast the earth is. And then it's like, suddenly all my problems seem so small, but then it's like, but are they that small? And then I just, like, start thinking about it more and more.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It is fun. No, on the occasion that I'm in a window seat, I romanticize it a little bit.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, I mean, you romanticize everything. Is that still your Instagram bio?

[Danielle Carolyn]

So funny. So my Instagram bio, for a really long time was shamelessly romanticizing New York.

[Margot Ashray]

So true. Oh, I thought it was shamelessly romanticizing my life.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Maybe it was. I don't know. And I. I removed it because I was like, that's not me. Then. Yes, it is not. That's on me. But I was like, is that Whatever. I don't even know. I just took it out. My manager texts me, and she doesn't really control my Instagram, of course. And she goes, why'd you take that out of your bio? I was like, oh, that's so interesting. Like, I don't know. I just thought, like, I should change it. She was like, no, put it back. I'm sick.

[Margot Ashray]

Why?

[Danielle Carolyn]

It made me look different. I was like, really?

[Margot Ashray]

No. By the way, I kind of, like, agree. Like, I also do feel like it really explains who you are because it also shows that you're just, like, a positive person and you're looking for, like, the best in everything. I don't know. I loved it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, thanks. Well, it's back to that. What's your Instagram bio these days?

[Margot Ashray]

I had a marvelous time ruining everything. Is it still, huh. Maybe it's time to change it. But, like, no.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I mean, that's. That's what I thought it was, but I was like, maybe not anymore.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I haven't touched it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

What about your profile picture?

[Margot Ashray]

Is it right now? It's from when I was in Idaho. Sun Valley.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, yes. Those were such.

[Margot Ashray]

Such Good photos. But then I'm like, now that it's getting, like, sunny out, like, do I change it?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Do you.

[Margot Ashray]

Do. Do you change your IG photo based on, like, the season?

[Danielle Carolyn]

I used to. But I have had the same Instagram profile photo for years.

[Margot Ashray]

Years, years. I change mine. Loki a lot.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I, like, need to do that more.

[Margot Ashray]

Sometimes it's just, like, it. Like, what it is, is no longer a representation of who I am.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, 100%. Does yours. Do you have sunglasses on?

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Okay. Because that's my problem is I always have. Not my problem, but I always have sunglasses on, and I feel like I can't have a photo with my sunglasses.

[Margot Ashray]

I agree. But the sunglasses that I have have on in this photo are, like, clear sunglasses, so you can kind of see the eyes.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You know what I mean?

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, by the way, I agree. No, you should, like, you should be able to see their. Like, what this person looks like.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Now I have to look at your Instagram profile. Like, I know the photos, but I'm, like, just, you know, I'm really struggling over here.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, no, those are my big struggles. Like, and changing my IG photo, like, for some reason is, like, this the biggest deal for me. Like, I, like, I have to make sure I get the ratio right. Like, it has to, like. And it can't be too far away, can't be too dark.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, yeah, that's cute.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Clear, sunny.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Margot Ashray]

Do you think I should delete the hearts? What?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Hearts?

[Margot Ashray]

Do you know that I have hearts, like, surrounding my name? And, like, it's like, oh, my God, that's so cute. And it's been that way since I got Instagram. And it's like, when you see me view your story, like, it's easy to tell because I have the heart hurts.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I literally have never, like, noticed it.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, okay.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But now, like. Oh, my God.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, right?

[Danielle Carolyn]

That is so. No, now it's.

[Margot Ashray]

Now I think it's just me. Like, I can't.

[Danielle Carolyn]

If you ever have this inkling to change it one day, you could.

[Margot Ashray]

But, like, maybe when I get married.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Have you noticed that mine's all caps? Wait, is it like, mine all caps?

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, actually, that looks right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew that.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, I don't know, one day I just. Just decided to do that.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, no, for sure.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's just, like, those little things.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I know it's, like, it's because it's honestly a representation of, like, when you started. Like, I put the hearts because I, like, was, like, that was so Me, like, I loved emojis and, like, pink and whatever. And like, now I think if I was making an Instagram, would I put that there? No.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, definitely not. But, like, I mean, they're just pink hearts, you know, it's not like.

[Margot Ashray]

But it is, like, loud. Like, think about it. Nobody else has, like, emojis.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's probably good. You probably get a really good response rate on your Instagram story replies. Because people.

[Margot Ashray]

Because you reply to someone, it's like, it's better than a check mark.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. Or if, like, a boy wants to see if I viewed his story. Like, you can see it in two seconds literally.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Exactly. I still wish you can search story

[Margot Ashray]

reviewers or filter by, like, following.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, I know, because it's not. Yeah, it's not like I'm trying to see what boys are watching my story, but I just. There's certain people. I'm like, like, I will convince myself. Like, I convinced myself the other day that this influencer we all know hates me. Like, I just, like, decided it. So then I was trying to. I'll tell you later. But I was trying to, like, see if she had, like, she hadn't liked any.

[Margot Ashray]

Because you can search your likes, by the way. That is my favorite fucking tool. I do it for literally everyone. Like, to see.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, to search if they've liked it.

[Margot Ashray]

No, just to search, like, because you can look at your shared activity so you can see all the photo. Do you not know this?

[Danielle Carolyn]

No. What are you saying?

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, my God. You can go to my. You can go to my profile and, like, press, like, the three dots, whatever, and it's like, see shared activity. And you can see all of the posts of yours that I've ever liked and vice versa. So, like, when you have a crush, that's so important. Or like, if you have, like, a hater, that's so important, one of you just has to be following the other. It doesn't even have to be, like, you both following each other. Wait, I can't believe you don't know this. Give me.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I just clicked on you.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, yeah. So you go likes. It's kind of slow.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Sorry, guys. Yeah, probably because we like.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I think we like, like all of each other's stuff.

[Danielle Carolyn]

That is crazy.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, look, it's so crazy.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, these posts.

[Margot Ashray]

These are my posts liked by you.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, my God.

[Margot Ashray]

And then liked by them. Like, all the ones that I've liked.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, my God.

[Margot Ashray]

Isn't that crazy? That's.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Wow.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I don't think Brooke knows that either.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, this is A. I thought that's cool. Oh, I thought that's what you're talking about. It's the most amazing thing. Also, sorry, because she just text you. I have to talk about Clara Pierce.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, my God. Her name is pronounced Purse.

[Margot Ashray]

It's Clara Purse, but she's used to

[Danielle Carolyn]

be going Claire Pierce.

[Margot Ashray]

Sorry.

[Danielle Carolyn]

What about Clara?

[Margot Ashray]

That she had the most iconic engagement. Whatever it's called launch of all time. You know, that's my dream.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Is that your dream?

[Margot Ashray]

Like, that is how I will launch. Like, that I even have a man.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, my. Yeah, I guess I knew that. Like, when you're engaged.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, guys, I actually did want to talk about this. I'm so glad you brought it up. Clara Purse, she's been on the podcast. Friend of. I'm actually going to. I'll have gone to Coachella with her, so I'm very excited. But she has never, ever talked, I don't think ever.

[Margot Ashray]

I didn't even know she had a man. And then I think I asked you one. I was. I think I assumed she was single. And I just, like, mentioned. And you're like, no, she has a boyfriend. I was like, yeah. I was like, oh, I had no idea. Love that for her. Like, I love that for her.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. You were like, that's my dream.

[Margot Ashray]

I was like, that's my dream.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, she has done it. So not even high. Like, she just, like, didn't talk about that part of her, which is so valid. Which is so valid. And, like, you should be able to do that. But she got engaged in Carmel by the Sea recently and just posted a dump. And Carmel, there's lots of rocks with, like, ocean and stuff. So she posted a dump. The first photo is just, like, her in a dress and she said, watch for rocks. And, like, the third photo is her.

[Margot Ashray]

I don't even think it was the third photo. I literally think it's like the eighth. Like, it was deep.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Wow, that is so hurt. And I was wondering if people would catch on. Like, did you catch on or did you see someone else?

[Margot Ashray]

Like, you know, honestly, I didn't even catch on, but I saw that her engagement was, like, just, like, really high. I was like, this is really cute. Like, vacation Dom. Why is it, like, going off? And so then I, like, went to the comments and I was like, oh, I missed something. I missed something entirely. And so then I, like, went back and I was like, oh, shit.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, it's. It's the craziest, coolest thing.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. No. And, like, honestly, it's like, now it's on my FYP of people being like, I. Like, I didn't know Clara.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

They're like, I missed a chapter. Like, I'm like, love that.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Actually, my panic of the week was that. So it was April Fool's Day, the day they got engaged. And my friends, I can't say the prank because it's too much, but my friends pranked me hard. Like, laid the groundwork. A few weeks ago, my high school friends did this. Oh, I love prank on me. Oh my God.

[Margot Ashray]

I mean, you had to be pranked that you're the biggest prankster.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, no, it was. And I was like, I was so, it was so sweet. I was like, they put in groundwork.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, no.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Said something to me a few weeks ago. It was very sweet. So I had been just pranked and I. So I was aware, you know, like it was, you know.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Clara's on this trip. She just sends me a photo of her hand and it literally looked AI. I mean, that just means her nail looked so good. Yeah, literally looked AI. And it was a picture of her hand with the ring. And she goes, isn't she cute? And it just like, it didn't feel

[Margot Ashray]

real because like, no.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So I'm like. So at first I go, oh, my gosh, Congratulations. Wait, is this April Fools?

[Margot Ashray]

No, literally, by the way, that's valid. I think that that's a valid reaction.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. Because also, like, I was. It was just so out of the blue.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And she goes, oh my God. No, but like, that is so funny. It's April Fools. And then I went off. I was like, oh my God, I'm

[Margot Ashray]

so happy for you.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But I was like, I wish I didn't even like. But I didn't want to be got.

[Margot Ashray]

No, no, you didn't want to be got. I get that. You were, you were on guard.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. So that was really, really funny. I have a photo of me being

[Margot Ashray]

like, ah, that's really cute. Did you know it was coming?

[Danielle Carolyn]

No. I mean, no, I wasn't told of anything, but like, yeah, I didn't know cuz she's younger than me.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, she is.

[Danielle Carolyn]

How.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, God. How old are she? I'm scared.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I think, I think she's just. I think she's 26. I'm 27. Okay.

[Margot Ashray]

I think I'm 28. I feel like you've always been. You're not a year younger than me.

[Danielle Carolyn]

You're more than a year birthday soon.

[Margot Ashray]

Shut up.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, shut up.

[Margot Ashray]

Shut up.

[Danielle Carolyn]

So you're turning 29.

[Margot Ashray]

Shut up. I can't believe you just said that. I can't believe you just said that.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, my God. I thought you liked your birthday.

[Margot Ashray]

I hate my birthday these days. Getting older is, like, so sad and scary.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Okay, that's new. Because normally the Margot. I know.

[Margot Ashray]

No, totally. And, like, you know, I'll do a whole thing, but, like, didn't I text you to reserve a date or something?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. God, I'm literally.

[Margot Ashray]

You're not gonna be here. It's fine. I missed your birthday, so it's fine.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I know. We've, like, missed. I missed your birthday last year.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, what did I do?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Or one year you did, like, a dinner party.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, no, I wasn't there at the dinner party.

[Margot Ashray]

You weren't there? No, no. Brooke came and held down the fort.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yes. I'm excited to hear what you're doing for your birthday. Or you just held a date.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I have it figured out. It's like, really nothing crazy. I'm just, like, doing, like, something intimate.

[Danielle Carolyn]

My birthday, but, like, save the date.

[Margot Ashray]

No. Yeah, literally. Because, like, then I'll be even more depressed if I don't do something. But, like, it's. No, I'm not doing, like, a party. Like, I mean, I am. It's like, intimate. You'll tell you.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I cannot wait.

[Margot Ashray]

No, it's nothing crazy. It's like, nothing to, like, not wait for, you know?

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, but, like, I'm just so nosy.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, I like to know everything.

[Margot Ashray]

No, you do.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Do you feel like I reply to your stories a lot? I mean, I.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I'd like it if you replied more.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, perfect.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. No, you are story replyer, but, like, not enough. And I feel like you used to do more, but also I get your bas. You're busy. But also you are so nosy. And that's like, my favorite thing about you is, like, if I want to know something, like, and I like, I. I'll, like, kind of do it. But like, if, like, someone posts something and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, wait, like, send it to Danielle and be like, I'll just ask.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, I literally, I'll just ask you.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, you'll just ask. But also because you are, like, kind of friends with everyone, so it's not weird if you ask.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, I guess I'm not. Not. Yeah, but like, I. Yeah, I wouldn't ask someone if I didn't feel comfortable.

[Margot Ashray]

Right.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I guess I just feel comfortable. Comfortable with a lot of people. But then there's some people I randomly I'm like, oh, we're not there.

[Margot Ashray]

No. And like, you won't. Yeah. Or you would.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, no, just. It just depends on the day how I'm feeling. But some people that I'm not so close with, but I'm like, on their close friends, so I'm like, so we're friends.

[Margot Ashray]

Right? Right, right. Close friends. Like, I feel like people don't talk about close friends. Like, influencer close friends. Like, enough.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's so fun.

[Margot Ashray]

It's so fun. It's so tea.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I do wish, though, I don't post a lot on my close friends. I don't trust.

[Margot Ashray]

Mine is very tight. Tight. Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I. I don't know. It's not like I'm posting. I posted some of my close friends the other day. Me taking a shot. I don't know why I put on my close friends instead of real. Like, it's nothing crazy, but, like, I'm like, Snapchat. You could see screenshots.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, so true.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But Instagram, I wish I could see someone screenshot it.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, so true. Oh, wait, I haven't even thought about that. I don't really think any one of my close friends, like, would screenshot my close friends.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, I think I need to now.

[Margot Ashray]

I gotta go through again.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, no, you gotta do, like, you gotta clear it out. Aren't you weird about your ratio on Instagram?

[Margot Ashray]

No, not anymore. I grew up.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh.

[Margot Ashray]

I used to be crazy.

[Danielle Carolyn]

What was the number you had to be?

[Margot Ashray]

500. Now I think about, like, seven something

[Danielle Carolyn]

following under 500 people.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I had to only be at 500.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Right.

[Margot Ashray]

So if I wanted to follow someone, I had to unfollow someone.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I think I. Yeah, yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Remember, there was, like, a lot of drama that started from that.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yes. Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

Let us not forget.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Let us not forget. No, I literally think I follow 2, 000 people or something. Crazy.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. Now I just, like, I just hit that follow button. Like, now I don't care.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, yeah. You follow 745 people.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, my God, I do. I gotta unfollow people. That's crazy. Yeah, that's a lot.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But see, like, sometimes I want to see, like, brands I like. Like, I want to see their new arrival.

[Margot Ashray]

No, totally.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And then that counts as one.

[Margot Ashray]

What brands do you follow? That's an interesting point.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, okay, what do I have seen? Like, retrofit, cult, Gaia.

[Margot Ashray]

And you follow them.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I follow them. Yeah. Like, certain ones that I. I would like to know when they, like, do a drop shop.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Park, like, random. I follow 2700 people. And, like, I will literally see. You weren't in a sorority, right? No, I will go through. And I'm like, there's all these girls over my sorority. And I'm like, I just can't let go of, like, I feel bad.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I have that too. I feel that too. I also feel that way, like, college also about people who have passed. Like, I can't unfollow them. Have you never thought about that?

[Danielle Carolyn]

I haven't, like, come across across that.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, I have come across that.

[Danielle Carolyn]

That's really sad. Yeah. No, you can't.

[Margot Ashray]

You can't. Like, I feel like it's like, it's like, so rude.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Did you see that? You can now change your email.

[Margot Ashray]

What do you mean?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like Gmail? Like, you can change your handle now, apparently.

[Margot Ashray]

What do you. Wait, what?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, like my.

[Margot Ashray]

You couldn't do that before? Like, I couldn't change my Gmail if I wanted to.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, I literally. One of my emails is so embarrassed. Like, it's. I'm not even gonna say it, but

[Margot Ashray]

it's like, yeah, like, my AOL is, like, embarrassing.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, like, love soccer 23. Like, stuff like that. Now you can. I think at least on Gmail, you can now change your handle. Oh, so if someone sends an email to that old, it'll go, got it. But then you get your new. But then I'm like, that's so everyone's gonna have, like, two names. Like, I don't know how that's gonna work.

[Margot Ashray]

No, you can probably only change it to emails that are available.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, of course. But then just more and more get taken because, like, so true. That sucks. If someone, maybe the girl that has Danielle Carolyn, like, she got married and she doesn't need it anymore, you know?

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, totally.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, that's crazy.

[Margot Ashray]

That is crazy. That is crazy.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I also recently I grew up hating my last name.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, interesting.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Isn't that interesting?

[Margot Ashray]

Ashray? I, like, loved my last name only because, like, because I'm the youngest and like, I always thought my sisters were, like, so cool. So I was just like, oh, Ashra. Yeah, I'm one of them.

[Danielle Carolyn]

That's so cute. Yeah, I like your last name.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I only say that because I, for

[Margot Ashray]

whatever reason, how do you pronounce your last name?

[Danielle Carolyn]

So this is actually really funny. When I was on the toast, I think I told Claudia the wrong way to say her.

[Margot Ashray]

And now she. Oh, she says Carol Ann Caroline.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And like, that is a way to say it. A lot of, like, northerners say my last name. Carolyn.

[Margot Ashray]

How do you say it.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I say Carolyn.

[Margot Ashray]

Like, Carolyn. Oh, my God. I don't know if I knew that. But how do you say my last name? Because mine's the same way. We have like 800 different variations.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Ashrae.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, I say ashrae, but there's like, ashri. Osre. Oshri. Let me say, a lot of people say, oh, sure.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Sometimes I say Oshri.

[Margot Ashray]

I like Ashray. Oh, sure. I don't love.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, I've never.

[Margot Ashray]

A lot of people say, oh, sure.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, sure. That doesn't, like, feel right off the top.

[Margot Ashray]

No, I agree. Ashrae.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, but some people do call me, like, say, Carol Ann. I don't know, but I think I've

[Margot Ashray]

always said Carol Ann, honestly.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And, like, now you have to do that.

[Margot Ashray]

No, it's Carolyn Bessette.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Today on the plane, they were like, Ms. Carolyn, like, thinking, and I was

[Margot Ashray]

like, you know what?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Hell, yeah. Like, that's a good last name. Yeah, you know, it's just like a first name. So people get. Get confused. They'll be like, can you give me your last name? And I'm like, carolyn. They're like, no, no, give me your last name.

[Margot Ashray]

It's a firstly first.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But it's just like, you know, growing up is growing up and getting old.

[Margot Ashray]

I've been listening to that song a lot lately.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Luke, I. You memorize songs like that.

[Margot Ashray]

It's crazy.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I do not. Yeah, but for some reason, Luke Combs songs. I do.

[Margot Ashray]

Have you been listening to the album? Yes. I love. So good.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, my God, I love Boys in

[Margot Ashray]

the lack with lears of. Tell them about Tonight.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, I know it, but I don't know the. I know that one. That. Oh, wait. That's literally the line. I know, though.

[Margot Ashray]

It's like the girls in the front row seeing every line.

[Danielle Carolyn]

The boys in the back row. Wait, no, no.

[Margot Ashray]

About them boys in the back with the beers up high and the girls in the front row singing every line.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I always think of it.

[Margot Ashray]

Think about them ladders way up in the sky.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, like a concert.

[Margot Ashray]

No. Yeah, he's describing a concert. It's his. Long live.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's so cute. Yeah, I, like, need more Luke Combs in my life. He's not coming to New York, though, right? No, but you already said. Will you go?

[Margot Ashray]

I'm going again. I have to, because he's adding new songs to the set list. Like, he didn't really. Because the album came out the day before, so he didn't really perform that many songs from the new album when I went. And then I saw when he was there in Charlottesville this past weekend, he added Alcohol Fame. Soon as I get home, Wishpawn, Whiskey, like. And I was like, okay, cool. I'm going again.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Alcohol fame wasn't in it originally, what I said.

[Margot Ashray]

I was like, based off the album, the two that you have to perform or tell me about tonight, an alcohol of fame, and he didn't do Alcohol Fame.

[Danielle Carolyn]

That one's so lit.

[Margot Ashray]

No, it's so lit. So I have to go. Like, I. It's just not a question. Abcded, abcd. I have to go. And I also feel like I. Like, I would imagine. I don't know, I'm just making this up, but, like, I feel like they're gonna have to add more shows, like, more places. Maybe like, next year. I don't know.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I told you, the invite's still open. I'm going to lay me and my

[Margot Ashray]

brother Ella fella in Estero. I've been there for Ask a flat.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I know. It's what. Literally, I texted you. I was like, didn't you, like, go to. Literally, I'm going so randomly to Estero,

[Margot Ashray]

Florida, to see how far is that from you, though.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Oh, my God. So it's like, four hours.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, what? Wait, what?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, four or five hours. Do you think it was closer?

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, because for us, it was, like, three hours. So I, like, maybe we're coming from different directions.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah. Because it's, like, basically Naples, and I've never been in Naples, and everyone always talks about Naples.

[Margot Ashray]

It was beautiful. So we're gonna, like, staying overnight.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, we're gonna, like, drive in, I think. Think the day of the concert and then, like, stay the night after.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I don't know. I have to find out.

[Margot Ashray]

Have you ever been to the Keys?

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah.

[Margot Ashray]

It's so gorgeous.

[Danielle Carolyn]

That Roxy trip looked so.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, it was so fun. And Olivia just went for the first. Not the first time we used to go as kids, but, like, with the kids this past weekend. And it, like, reminded me. It's so. And it's so beautiful.

[Danielle Carolyn]

What did you go to Key West.

[Margot Ashray]

Key West.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's so fun.

[Margot Ashray]

It's so.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I was young, though. I would like to go back at a drinking age.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Everyone was driving.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, my God. Yeah, that. I forget what the. Like, that road is called, but, like, it was so fun. And they have, like, live bands, like, everywhere.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's literally, like, you feel like you're like Jimmy Buffet.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah. It's so Margaritaville. Like, it's so fun and, like, chill and, like, you, like, don't have to wear makeup.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, it's the best.

[Margot Ashray]

It's the best.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Are you doing your annual, like, trip this year where you, like, go to a National Park?

[Margot Ashray]

100. Obviously it's not booked. I have, like, so many plans in my brain and nothing's booked because I, like, can't even get through, like, tomorrow.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Gotta get through festivals.

[Margot Ashray]

You gotta get through festivals.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's crazy.

[Margot Ashray]

But there's. It's always a busy season. Like, I feel like I have not been here. Like, I legit have, but, like, you haven't really either.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, it's. I. But I always feel like April, specifically, for whatever reason, like, is busy always.

[Margot Ashray]

Because the festivals, whatever. It's usually, like, leading up to it. It's like, I'm fine. I feel like I have not been here.

[Danielle Carolyn]

No, I know. It's really unfortunate. But it is nice to know that New York's home base.

[Margot Ashray]

That's true.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, it's so nice. Like, I feel like we can come here, be here for two days and get so much done.

[Margot Ashray]

So much done. It's so true.

[Danielle Carolyn]

It's really cool. And, like, see so many of your friends or, like, go to work or whatever it is. Like, I feel like I see so many people in a weekend. Like, you could just.

[Margot Ashray]

If I try. If you try. Or you can literally just stay in your apartment and never leave.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Like, whatever works.

[Margot Ashray]

Whatever works.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Well, Margot, thank you so much.

[Margot Ashray]

Thank you so much for having me. I could literally sit here all day.

[Danielle Carolyn]

I know. I. Selfishly, we hadn't, like, hung out in a while.

[Margot Ashray]

I know. We have so much to catch up on, like, offline as well. I know, like, so much to catch up on, so.

[Danielle Carolyn]

But tell everyone they can find you.

[Margot Ashray]

Oh, my God. You can find me at Mark Ashray on Instagram and Tick Tock. And you can yell at me about my Tick Tock. Com. About my work outfits on Tick Tock. I really, like, don't get offended. So, like, by all means.

[Danielle Carolyn]

And party.

[Margot Ashray]

Yeah, literally. And that's all she wrote.

[Danielle Carolyn]

Yeah, all she wrote. I love you. Thank you guys so much for listening to this week's episode. Subscribe if you're on YouTube, follow Rate, do whatever thing. And we'll be back with Brooke next week. Thanks, Margo.

[Margot Ashray]

Bye. Bye, guys.

[Danielle Carolyn]

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